A mutt flea, or just me?: Last reply paragraph is not displayed.

2008-06-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
Reading mail from a variety of lists, with Mutt 1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11), I'm finding that the last paragraph of replies in the posts from just one person are not displayed. However, invoking vim within mutt reveals the invisible last (or only) paragraph. Curiously, appending a newline, to

Re: A mutt flea, or just me?: Last reply paragraph is not

2008-06-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:25:53AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: It sounds like you might have a $display_filter set. Do you? Nope, but it's educational to know that's there, if I ever need it. I wondered if I'd inadvertently zapped the unterminated last line in a color regex, but there's nothing

Re: A mutt flea, or just me?: Last reply paragraph is not displayed

2008-06-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:52:19AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Come to think of it, how can such an email actually exist? When email is transmitted via SMTP, it's *required* to be terminated by a newline. If it isn't, there's no way to know that the message has finished. Ah, we can't fault

Re: Mutt problem, probably with procmail

2008-09-13 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 02:53:08PM +0200, Aleksandar D. Balalovski wrote: hello, I've been using Mutt for half a year now, everything was fine. Yesterday I changed some of the recipes in procmailrc and since than fetchmail/procmail won't put the mail in the preferred mailbox. It puts it in

Re: Rolling in sidebar, other mutt-ng type bits?

2008-10-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:03:24PM +0100, tchomby wrote: It's to solve the problem where you are subscribed to a large number of email lists, for example, and filter mail from each list into its own folder, then you don't want to have to open each folder just to see if there's anything new in

A little like this perhaps? [Was: standardized method of changing reply-subject]

2008-12-15 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:11:57PM +0100, Melisizwe Dubaku wrote: I would change it to Meeting cancelled [was: Meeting next week]. Yes, that's precisely the syntax which I've also absorbed from inhabiting a number of technical lists. It is the only one which I've noticed to be consistent across

Re: definition of signature separator

2009-01-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 05:58:25PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: but the was inserted by procmail, If there is no Content-Length: field or the -Y option has been specified and procmail appends to regular mailfolders, any lines in the body of the mes‐ sage that look like postmarks are

send2-hook not working for me

2009-08-03 Thread Erik Christiansen
When composing an email to e.g. family, while in a list-related mailbox, I'd like to temporarily reassign Reply-To:, overriding the current folder-hook. Using the manual, and experiences found on the list, I've come as far as this in .muttrc: send2-hook '~t t...@theirdomain\\.net\\.au' 'my_hdr

Re: send2-hook not working for me

2009-08-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:45:38PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: * Erik Christiansen wrote: When composing an email to e.g. family, while in a list-related mailbox, I'd like to temporarily reassign Reply-To:, overriding the current folder-hook. Using the manual, and experiences found

send-hook built to fail? [Was: Re: send2-hook not working for me ]

2009-08-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 05:26:14PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: For example, with your Reply-To setting it may happen that all initial recipients are in the group and a special settings thus applies. From the compose menu you (for whatever reason) decide to add somebody else not in this group.

Re: send-hook built to fail? [Was: Re: send2-hook not working for

2009-08-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:35:09AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Friday, August 7 at 12:04 AM, quoth Erik Christiansen: Well, send-hook is slightly mis-named. A more accurate name would be compose-hook, because it's triggered whenever a new message is being composed. Sounds good so far

Re: send-hook built to fail? [Was: Re: send2-hook not working for

2009-08-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:14:04PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Friday, August 7 at 01:52 AM, quoth Erik Christiansen: Consider if you were instead changing the Subject header. For example: send-hook '~C d...@example.com' 'my_hdr Subject: [dudemail]' Munging that a bit, I seem

Re: send-hook built to fail? [Was: Re: send2-hook not working for

2009-08-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 07:21:22AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Friday, August 7 at 08:09 PM, quoth Erik Christiansen: Hmmm. I think there must be a misunderstanding between us somewhere here. If you're happy, that's great, and nevermind the rest. But unless I misunderstand how mutt works

Power send-hooking [Was: Re: send2-hook not working for me ]

2009-08-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:17:20PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Saturday, August 8 at 01:55 AM, quoth Erik Christiansen: Well, I've gone back for the third time, to check what happens on compose (m), and list reply (L). In my now disused cross-gcc mailbox, with no send-hook and no Reply

Re: Body searching

2009-08-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:57:11PM +0800, fvw wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 04:36:25AM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: How can I search through the body of all messages in a folder? I have mairix set up for my archives, but not my inbox. My current setup would make it problematic to do so. Is it

Comparing Mutt notes [Was: Privacy considerations when using mutt]

2010-05-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 04:17:58PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Let's compare notes (granted, this is two years old): http://www.memoryhole.net/kyle/2008/03/my_bashrc.html Thanks for have(). Elegant simplicity _and_ readability! (If only bash were more like that.) In return, maybe somone can

Re: imap way for slow connection (imap without attachment)

2010-06-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 04:52:22AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello alvaro, Am 2010-06-07 21:09:41, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Hi all, I use a gprs connection with 500MB limited month connection. I see mutt + imaps download all attachment from server. There is no attachment

Message save causes erroneous New mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
Since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04, and therefore Mutt 1.5.20, saving a read mail to another mailbox immediately causes that mailbox to be flagged as containing new mail. Since I'm using the same .muttrc, something has changed between mutt versions, to cause the erroneous behaviour. (Prior mutt

Re: Message save causes erroneous New mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:28:24PM +0200, Michael Ludwig wrote: Erik Christiansen schrieb am 24.06.2010 um 19:18 (+1000): Since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04, and therefore Mutt 1.5.20, saving a read mail to another mailbox immediately causes that mailbox to be flagged as containing new mail

Re: Message save causes erroneous New mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Chris G wrote: I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are now using mutt with mbox so that an 'out of the box' installation of mutt on Linux works fine with maildir but if you switch to mbox it all goes very much awry. Oh-oh, that's

Re: Message save causes erroneous New mail detection.

2010-06-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 02:57:05PM +0100, Chris G wrote: If one writes a message to an mbox file then the size changes and (if atime is enabled) the modification time will be after the access time. So mutt *has* to say there's new mail in the mailbox. Ah, then it is possibly only the immediate

Two alternative proposed fixes [Was: Re: A wish for the mailboxes command]

2010-06-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:47:29AM +0100, Chris G wrote: I don't really want to know when new mail arrives, what I want is the ability to quickly go to all the mailboxes which have new incoming mail when I'm running mutt. I don't have any need to respond quickly to messages, just a need to be

Re: Message save causes erroneous New mail detection.

2010-06-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:10:54PM +0100, Chris G wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:05:31PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: [1] If mutt knows not to flag the transferred email as new, then it also knows enough not chuck up the erroneous New mail message. The logic used for the message

Re: Two alternative proposed fixes [Was: Re: A wish for the mailboxes command]

2010-06-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 02:46:23PM +0200, Michael Ludwig wrote: Checking for new mail before a user-triggered write operation, as you suggested, would, I think, fix the issue. Thank you. After checking 114 fleas which mentioned New mail, I've added ticket #3424. Erik -- The reasonable man

Re: problem about subjects in asian charsets

2002-07-31 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 04:54:18PM +0800, Isaac Claymore wrote: However, whenever I send emails with a subject in Chinese, the receiver gets something like this :Subject: =?zh_cn.gb2312?B?uf65/g==?=, although all other parts of the mail are fine. Thanks for hints and

Re: problem about subjects in asian charsets

2002-07-31 Thread Erik Christiansen
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Re: problem about subjects in asian charsets

2002-07-31 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:12:56PM +0200, Alain Bench wrote: No: completely different problem. Your's is even not a Mutt problem, just bad system's locale configuration. Try to set LC_CTYPE to a suitable locale for your language, country and character set. OK, it seems then that

Re: Display of non-ascii chars

2002-08-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 09:57:49AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: If you use the vim editor for composing messages, then you can set up digraphs to enter non-ASCII characters; it also supports a completely general but more awkward input method where you can type control-V followed by the decimal

Re: RFE: regex backrefs

2002-08-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:57:39AM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: I know this has been brought up before, but I just thought I'd voice my deep desire: mutt should be able to have backrefs to its regexen. If I get a 'vote' in future development, this is how I would cast it. My C is crappy, or

Re: most commonly used regex lib for awk/frep/mutt/sed?

2002-08-02 Thread Erik Christiansen
it doesn't have modern EREs. ;-) Hmmm. Whither mutt? Regards, Erik -- _,-_|\Erik Christiansen / \ Research Development Division \_,-.__/ Voice Products Department vNEC Business Solutions Pty. Ltd.

Re: your mail

2002-09-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 04:25:18PM +0800, Isaac Claymore wrote: I need to email people at my company constantly, say foo.com. What I want is: whenever I write an email, I just supply jack as 'To:' to mutt, and mutt completes that as [EMAIL PROTECTED], it'll save me a lot typing. What

Trying to do too much with Mutt?

2002-09-11 Thread Erik Christiansen
Greetings, fellow Mutterers. The problem is to: a) Archive outgoing mail to a local mail folder named in a header. b) Archive the same outgoing mail on a server, in similar fashion. The attempted solution so far is: a) my_hdr Fcc: default_project_name b) my_hdr X-Topic:

Re: Trying to do too much with Mutt?

2002-09-12 Thread Erik Christiansen
Ouch! Leaving revelation of the nub of the problem till the attempted solution, was clearly not helpful. Clearer is: In order to provide a history of correspondence, filed by project, on originating laptops and on a server, the two-part goal is to: a) Archive outgoing mail to one

Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 07:51:13AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing

Re: ISO cancel option in quit prompt from send-message

2002-10-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 02:47:53PM -0500, David Champion wrote: Control-G cancels most prompted operations. With your pardon, I'll say that _doesn't_ ring a bell. Having tried the conventional escapes, including ^C, ^D, and Esc, I'd surmised that mutt lacked the facility. Is

Re: ISO cancel option in quit prompt from send-message

2002-10-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:06:54PM -0400, Rob Reid wrote: It's what the one true editor uses, but you're right, C-g should be a hard-coded addition to the ? menu, right at the top. Ah, yes. Bells and chords. That's self-consistent for the editor. Finding ^C neither in the ? help, nor

URL not extracted from HTML by w3m in mutt autoview

2010-07-13 Thread Erik Christiansen
Most URLs arriving in html messages are eminently discardable, but today I received one worth trying. Mutt's autoview invokes w3m, which extracts most of the html text, but renders the URL as nothing more than '*'. There are three matching lines in /etc/mailcap: text/html;

Re: URL not extracted from HTML by w3m in mutt autoview

2010-07-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 08:21:02AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: check the header for Content-Type:, it should contain: Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 It's there, but spread over two lines: Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 As expected, merging the lines made no

Re: URL not extracted from HTML by w3m in mutt autoview

2010-07-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 09:16:21AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2010-07-13, Erik Christiansen wrote: I had thought that =3D was a m$-ism? The = at the end of the line and =3D stuff is quoted-printable, a type of Content-Transfer-Encoding defined by RFC 2045. Mutt already knows how

Re: URL not extracted from HTML by w3m in mutt autoview

2010-07-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:29:34AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2010-07-14, Erik Christiansen wrote: It's in an A tag: (I've munged some of the href's characters in this post) td height=3D60 colspan=3D3 align=3Dcenter valign=3Dmiddle= font face=3DArial color=3D#66 style

Re: what does this sender invalid error mean?

2010-08-03 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 01:01:28PM +0100, Chris G wrote: However I've just realised that I removed the record for chris.isbd.net from the zone file for isbd.net at my hosting provider, would the non-existence of chris.isbd.net break things? Given that chris.isbd.net now doesn't resolve for

Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status

2010-08-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 09:18:45PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: I don't only want to redeliver my emails, but also not let all redelivered mails become into the unread status. I'm using maildir format, and tried with the following script: for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do (

Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status

2010-08-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:54:16PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Christian Ebert, Am 2010-08-05 15:45:48, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: As Erik is using Maildir even that wouldn't help much as the messages would be delivered to Maildir/new/ . And if he had looked into the

Re: Problem with mutt and mailbox changes (currently best 1.5.18)

2010-08-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:58:14AM +0800, Charles Jie wrote: Before the bug is fixed, I suggest going back to mutt 1.5.18. I found it has an extra benefit - it opens mailbox much faster than 1.5.20. I don't know why, but you can benchmark it. (I have some mailboxes of size

Re: Problem with mutt and mailbox changes (currently best 1.5.18)

2010-08-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:40:18AM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: FYI, I plan to tackle this bug soon. The discussion has not got unnoticed. :) Grateful thanks, Michael. If you'll need another beta tester, just yell out when the hard work's done. ;-) Erik

Re: muttjump

2010-11-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:47:16AM +0100, Christian Ebert wrote: * Christian Ebert on Monday, November 29, 2010 at 11:11:11 +0100 term=/dev/$(ps -p$$ | awk '!/PID/ { print $2 }') awk 'END { print $2 }' is better. Since both select the desired line from the two lines presented by

How to improve the tab-completion mailbox suggestions display?

2011-02-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
The mailbox suggestions listed by mutt, when I invoke tab-completion, don't fit on the screen, because the 60 characters of completely irrelevant ls -l-equivalent guff prefixed to the mailbox name. e.g.: 1 -rw--- 1 erik erik 129K Mar 27 19:15 cnc_linux_accuracy 2

Re: How to improve the tab-completion mailbox suggestions display?

2011-02-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 07:33:39AM -0400, Monte Stevens wrote: set folder_format=%4C %t %N %f Ah, grateful thanks for that. (I see now that what I should have been searching for in the manual was file browser display. I'll make notes.) It is _lots_ better now. :-) Thanks again to you and

Re: Cc prompt when writing a new message

2011-02-22 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:09:05PM +, Patrice Clement wrote: I've been looking for a way to get a prompt to fill up the Cc: field when I want to write a new email. Currently, when I press m (you all know what the key-binding for m is :)), mutt asks me to whom I want to send the email and

Re: Sending in bulk mode from draft folder

2011-05-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 02:38:19PM +0200, Jose M Vidal wrote: is there any way to send all the messages without the need to open them one by one? Running an MTA, such as sendmail or postfix, would spool the mails for you, automatically sending them when the connection is up. (Your laptop would

Re: ispell with vim

2011-05-17 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.05.11 16:55, Robert Holtzman wrote: Unfortunately my (Ubuntu's) version of Mutt seems to have been compiled without ispell capability. From mutt -v: -ISPELL. Not having enough background in compiling programs, I'll just stick to this in vimrc. map F6 Esc:setlocal spell

Re: ispell with vim

2011-05-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.05.11 18:35, Christian Brabandt wrote: But since vim own spell checker works good another for me, I don't remember those plugins (that are really outdated for quite some time) and can't give any guidance on their quirks... What impressed me enormously was the auto-install helpfulness,

Re: ispell with vim

2011-05-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.05.11 11:52, Christian Brabandt wrote: It is actually quite easy to find, if you know how to use Vim's help system. Let's see, since spelling was a new feature for Vim 7, I usually go to :h new-spell There you'll find that z= is mentioned for spell suggestions. So place you

Re: Old mail vs New Mail

2011-05-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 24.05.11 09:48, Michael Elkins wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 07:18:03PM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: Thanks for your reply. The 'mail_check_recent' option does not appear in my mutt/manual.txt.gz, nor does anything matching '_recent'. My Mutt is 1.5.20 (2009-06-14), ubuntu maverick stock.

Re: Mutt through a M$ exchange server

2011-08-26 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 25.08.11 09:37, source liu wrote: Maybe I should try something like sendmail/postfix, through it quit a big challenge after a take a glance at their manuals, great power requires greater efforts. An apt-get update, followed by an apt-get install postfix (with the need to answer a question

Re: Feature (plugin?) request, boomerang mail

2011-10-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 27.10.11 15:27, David Champion wrote: * On 27 Oct 2011, Jostein Gogstad wrote: Anyone heard of a script that does something similar? Do you think it falls under the responsibility of the MUA? I think that sounds like a task management / trouble-ticketing system. Typically a reply

saved searches [Was: Named tags/lables?]

2011-11-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 04.11.11 09:44, Tim Gray wrote: The smart folders (saved searches) are pretty nice in my opinion and are very fast. Coupled with a labels scheme such as the one you wrote about, you have something that competes with gmail/notmuch/sup without fooling around with IMAP standards or running an

Re: New mail indicator

2012-04-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.04.12 12:03, Diep Pham Van wrote: So, I'm the only one who has this problem? On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:51:02PM +0700, Diep Pham Van wrote: I have a very simple question but cannot find the answer anywhere. I have mutt setup with offlineimap using maildir format. When I press

Re: New mail indicator

2012-04-27 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 27.04.12 10:54, Diep Pham Van wrote: So, is there an easy way to change that behaviour? If there is no other way, then you could consider changing to mbox format. It retains the 'N' new mail flag indefinitely if set mark_old=no, and the post remains unread. It seems astounding to me too,

Re: New mail indicator

2012-05-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 10.05.12 08:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Diep Pham Van i...@favadi.com [05-10-12 08:01]: Sometimes when reading a new mail, I must going to an other folder and after some searching, I have no idea where is my previous folder. ctrlz from present instance of mutt and start another or

Mail folder backtracking [Was: New mail indicator]

2012-05-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 10.05.12 19:53, Diep Pham Van wrote: I have about 30 folders, so that can take minute to find out. :) Although I have a little over one thousand mail folders¹, it only takes seconds. That is because Up-Arrow cycles through the list of last _visited_ folders, in reverse order. If that is too

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 28.11.12 12:16, Derek Martin wrote: All methods of judgement are rigid, by their very nature. It is only the human element which allows them to be flexible (for example, I knew what you meant when you typed rigit). Humans have differing levels of tolerance; but regardless of the level,

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 29.11.12 08:42, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: I suppose what i'm saying is there are more important things in life to worry about than something like this. I think provided people make some sort of effort to conform to the way mailinglist posts should be formatted, and particularly avoid things

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-12-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 01.12.12 09:45, Tony's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-11-30, Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org wrote: Only because I got sick of replying to your nonsense. You gave up. That will fail you every time. Long threads have a tendency to degenerate into a trailing BS session, but they don't

List netiquette; General Mutt-specific [Was: Please set your line wrap to a sane value]

2012-12-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 01.12.12 17:57, Peter Davis wrote: the 72-column wrapping rule and the non-HTML rule can hardly be considered netiquette except perhaps within this tiny circle. Otherwise they are, at best, quaint relics of an earlier era. There are other bastions of consideration for the reader, not yet

Re: List netiquette; General Mutt-specific [Was: Please set your line wrap to a sane value]

2012-12-02 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 02.12.12 08:54, Peter Davis wrote: In my view, no amount of argument or evidence is going to change the minds of anyone in this smaller group. That's fine. Within the domain of lists that discuss these classic tools, we should adhere to the practices of that community. Eureka! That is what

Re: on-demand rewrap received mail and display in builtin pager

2012-12-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 04.12.12 14:00, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: alternatively, you could reformat the mails at receive time through a procmail filter or something if you have that kind of access to the mail server. If anyone has a working solution, I'd be interested too. The following had to be commented out,

Re: on-demand rewrap received mail and display in builtin pager

2012-12-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 05.12.12 11:24, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net [12-05-12 02:44]: # This DOES WRECK URLs! # This can wreck code patches: # :0Bbfw # Fold long lines (80

Re: Remove prefix from subject header in index view

2012-12-15 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 15.12.12 17:03, Christian Brabandt wrote: Probably it is not yet in mutt, but might be included later. Many features from mutt started as separate patches (or are still flying around as patches) until they have been included into main mutt. Just tweaking the index view is only half a fix,

Re: Remove prefix from subject header in index view

2012-12-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.12.12 12:20, Derek Martin wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:00:25PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 15.12.12 17:03, Christian Brabandt wrote: That has the advantage that the [list-gumpf] is gone not only from the index, but also from the edit-headers in vim, when replying

Whatever happened to xterm_set_titles ?

2013-02-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
The mutt installed today, from the mercurial repository, Mutt 1.5.21+145 (2a1c5d3dd72e) (2012-12-30) doesn't like this line in .muttrc: set xterm_set_titles=yes It complains: Error in /home/erik/.muttrc, line 96: xterm_set_titles: unknown variable source: errors in /home/erik/.muttrc My old

Re: Whatever happened to xterm_set_titles ?

2013-02-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 05.02.13 22:43, Trevor D. Manning wrote: * Erik Christiansen (dva...@internode.on.net) wrote: The mutt installed today, from the mercurial repository, Mutt 1.5.21+145 (2a1c5d3dd72e) (2012-12-30) doesn't like this line in .muttrc: set xterm_set_titles=yes Could it be that setting

Re: Whatever happened to xterm_set_titles ?

2013-02-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 05.02.13 11:05, Brendan Cully wrote: That's a third-party patch, as others have pointed out. But using the | feature of format strings you can get similar functionality. See contrib/mutt_xtitle in the mutt repo: http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt/file/tip/contrib/mutt_xtitle Many thanks,

Re: Mailing list Subject: line

2013-02-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.02.13 22:29, Will Yardley wrote: On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 10:17:26PM -0500, grarpamp wrote: If at all possible I'd like to see the Subject: line for this list updated from... Subject: ...thread... ...to... Subject: [mutt-users] ...thread... I'm aware mail filters are readily

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-12 Thread Erik Christiansen
of the personal folder. The thread in the list folder is complete. # Collapse duplicate messages, but not my :0 Whc: msgid.lock # posts that I've BCCed, for testing. * !^From: Erik Christiansen | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-12 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 12.02.13 11:31, David Woodfall wrote: My .procmailrc-lists is populated with eg: :0 * ^.*mutt-users@mutt.org* lists/mutt-users@mutt.org/ Which catches mail To or Cc the mailing list, Or in the Subject, or elsewhere. As a hack, it'll probably mostly work most of the time, because the

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-13 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 12.02.13 17:44, Michael Elkins wrote: I prefer to save the copy with the List-Post header field rather than the personal copy, so I use a slightly different approach: :0 * ^TOmutt-\/[^@]+ { # mail cc'd to the mutt-* lists but without the List-Post: header are dupes :0

Re: Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-02-27 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 27.02.13 15:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote: I am *against* Reply-To: mudging by list software and believe it should *only* be employed by a poster wishing replies to his posts to be rec'd by a different account such as posting from work and wanting receipt at home. Hmmm, I've tried using

Re: What set of message flags does mutt use to indicate a N[ew] message?

2013-03-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 19.03.13 10:29, Chris Green wrote: So, how does mutt decide that a message is 'N'? There isn't an explicit flag indicating this so it must be some combination of absence of Status: and X-Status: flags. Can anyone tell me what it is please. Last time I looked at that, I made these notes:

Re: Is it supposed to be possible to deliver mail while mutt has the mbox open?

2013-03-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.03.13 13:14, Chris Green wrote: What is supposed to happen in the following scenario:- I'm viewing my incoming mail (inbox), looking at the index view in mutt. Some new mail arrives, delivered by procmail/python script/whatever to the inbox. Is there supposed to be

Re: Is it supposed to be possible to deliver mail while mutt has the mbox open?

2013-03-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.03.13 14:11, Chris Green wrote: What I want to know is:- Is it possible for a message to be delivered into an mbox that mutt is looking at without provoking the Mailbox was externally modified message? Yes. Here the message is New mail in this mailbox. (Confirmed by

Re: Is it supposed to be possible to deliver mail while mutt has the mbox open?

2013-03-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 22.03.13 12:54, Derek Martin wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 09:04:21AM +, Chris Green wrote: Mutt itself *doesn't* put a blank line there, if you S[ave] or C[opy] messages to a new mbox the messages have no blank lines before the 'From '. When I save a message to another mailbox,

Re: Is it supposed to be possible to deliver mail while mutt has the mbox open?

2013-03-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 23.03.13 12:40, Chris Green wrote: Well I first actually tried it and saw no blank line. I've now looked throught my archive (1845 mailboxes) and most of them, saved with mutt, using S[ave], seem *not* to have a blank line either. There are some with blank lines between but I suspect

Re: skip a certain folder in next-unread-mailbox

2013-04-12 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 11.04.13 13:37, Nicolas Bock wrote: is it possible to exclude a certain folder or folders from the mailboxes that are checked when executing next-unread-mailbox? Yes, just comment out (or delete) its mailboxes line in .muttrc. (I do that when unsubscribing from a mail list, then uncomment if

Re: OT making ascii tables

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.05.13 14:53, Jan-Herbert Damm wrote: lately tried: tbl | groff -k -Tutf8 | uniq output.file which works fine and I get german umlauts. But while cat will show me the output correctly vim or even less will not. When you try :set fenc ? in vim, does it show: fileencoding=utf-8 If

Re: Search utilities for use with mutt - I use mairix but it's not perfect

2013-05-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.05.13 15:32, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:21:49AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: REs would be preferable but it does provide fuzzy searchs Yes, I've used them occasionally, doesn't help with non alpha/number strings though. Maybe I'm missing something, but

Re: Search utilities for use with mutt - I use mairix but it's not perfect

2013-05-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.05.13 10:39, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * John Niendorf j...@jfniendorf.org [05-07-13 10:37]: [...] What is egrep and how does it work? (OK I guess I could look up the man page.) Biggest question is: Is egrep a vim only thing or can a nano wimp use it too? ;-) Your question will

Re: Search utilities for use with mutt - I use mairix but it's not perfect

2013-05-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.05.13 10:58, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2013-05-08, Erik Christiansen wrote: You might find this script, which I've named vimgrep, useful. #!/bin/bash tmp=$(mktemp) cat $tmp exec /dev/tty vim --cmd 'let efm=gfm' -q $tmp $@ rm $tmp It's invoked like

Re: Searching To:-Headers in Sent Mail

2013-06-03 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 03.06.13 14:30, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: I'd like to search messages by recipient in my Sent-Folder, but at least my mutt install won't do it out of the box. To do that, I just use: / ~h some_recipient_name OK, that looks in all the headers, but you probably want to check Cc: as well,

Re: The etiquette of RTFM (Re: I have forgotten ...)

2013-06-21 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 21.06.13 10:13, Rado Q wrote: But not to make one side happy and reject the other, how about this: we get 2 lists, one for the basicsimple stuff (mutt-users), the other for advanced (mutt-adventures). Have some moderators sitting on the basic- line forwarding the advanced stuff (users) to

OT: Request for old cruft. [Was: The etiquette of RTFM (Re: I have forgotten ...)]

2013-06-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 21.06.13 10:52, Eduardo Alvarez wrote: That sounds like a fantastic compilation, not just for practical knowledge, but I'm betting a little of history as well. Would you care to share it? :) At first I thought that's not a problem, if it is of any interest. But it includes pastes of

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.09.13 10:10, Derek Martin wrote: If it's sensitive enough to be encrypted outgoing, it's sensitive enough to be encrypted on disk... even if you haven't actually sent it yet. That's entirely convincing, but it doesn't follow that this has anything to do with mutt, I figure. I use vim

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.09.13 09:44, Óscar Pereira wrote: On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 06:13:20PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 06.09.13 10:10, Derek Martin wrote: If it's sensitive enough to be encrypted outgoing, it's sensitive enough to be encrypted on disk... even if you haven't actually sent it yet

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.09.13 12:56, Óscar Pereira wrote: On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 07:51:41PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 07.09.13 09:44, Óscar Pereira wrote: On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 06:13:20PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: We use an editor to create the text for an email, so it needs to read

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.09.13 14:40, Christian Brabandt wrote: Hi Erik! G'day Christian. A thoughtful response is most welcome. On Sa, 07 Sep 2013, Erik Christiansen wrote: What you have seem to have missed is that the editor is not encrypting the email for transmission. Mutt still does that. To this end

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.09.13 14:59, Christian Brabandt wrote: Vim certainly could and Emacs probably can encrypt. But what about Nano, pico, mcedit, gedit, kate? Therefore, I think, it is still mutt's responsibility to encrypt the file. G'day Christian, That would remove the editor choice restriction, and

99% OT: An attempt at debate reconciliation. [Was: Encrypting postponed messages]

2013-09-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
, what would the conclusion be? Err ... please accept that you own that. It's your scenario, and your reasoning. Nothing to do with me, because I had _in_advance_ ruled out any need for an external viewer from my reasoning: On 07.09.13 19:51, Erik Christiansen wrote: On the other hand, we use mutt

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.09.13 20:14, Tim Gray wrote: On Sep 09, 2013 at 02:31 AM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: That would remove the editor choice restriction, and so would be more universal once it exits. Added to that, draft encryption integrated into mutt uses less keystrokes and requires less user

Mutt manual: %L w.r.t. group [Was: Inbox and Sent messages in one thread. How To? [Off topic question]]

2013-12-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.12.13 11:22, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20131206_210949, Erik Christiansen wrote: help when you are off in another mailbox, and suddenly decide to fling off a message. To let mutt catch that use case, and put any message to family in the right mailbox, I've settled on: fcc-save-hook

Re: Recent display changes?

2014-01-11 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.01.14 11:17, Peter Davis wrote: Well, adding the line color tree black white to my .muttrc seems to have fixed the colors for the thread tree characters, but this was never necessary before. Just such a change became necessary here some years ago. (Don't remember which mutt version

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