Re: [NTG-context] fret-diagrams in Lilypond + ConTeXt
Am 2007-09-13 um 10:14 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: For some strange reason it works here if I replace /catcode`/-=/@@letter by /catcode`/-=11 in t-lilypond.tex. Should I change it in the module or is it not save? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Adobe reader 811 on linux
Am 2007-09-15 um 12:31 schrieb Olivier: Good news, but I would welcome a (speed review) compared to 7.0.8 before I go through the trouble of installing the package. So, if anybody is using it and is willing to share some experiences, that would be much appreciated. I don't know nothing about Reader on Linux, but with Acrobat Pro on OSX the number of prepress related bugs did increase, und the new GUI is at least a matter of taste, if not hardly usable. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] numbered subitems
Am 2007-09-30 um 23:29 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: \startitemize[repeat,4*borad]\getbuffer\stopitemize ^^^ (add this) been too much to the movies, eh? ;-) I guess that should be broad... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX on Mac OS X
Am 2007-10-02 um 14:27 schrieb Dalyoung Jeong: if not md5.HEX then function md5.HEX(str) return convert(str,% 02X) end end if not md5.hex then function md5.hex(str) return convert(str,% 02x) end end if not md5.dec then function md5.dec(str) return convert(stt,% 03i) end end I don't really know Lua, but stt looks like an error (maybe Dalyoung's?), and if Lua makes a difference between unicode and byte strings, the usage of str would explain problems with Korean directory names or the like. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which ConTeXt editor do you use?
Am 2007-10-30 um 19:06 schrieb Matija Šuklje: Could anyone suggest a good ConTeXt-aware editor for Linux? Did you have a look at this: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_editor It's a bit outdated, but should give you a start. AFAIK Scite is Hans' favourite, so maybe its ConTeXt mode is the best. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] ordering (combined) lists
Ahoi! In my songbook, I'd like to order the table of contents alphabetically. Is that possible or must I abuse the index features? This is my setup: \definecombinedlist [inhalt] [Titel, TitelKlein, TitelNoPage] [level=Titel, placehead=yes, criterium=all, alternative=b, offset=none] \setupcombinedlist [inhalt] [partnumber=no] Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] upright sans math
Ahoi! I need to typeset some formulae in upright Helvetica (TeX Gyre Heros, URW Nimbus or similar). Is this already pre-made in the ConTeXt distribution? I couldn't find it. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Context and Lilypond on Miketex with TeXnicCenter
Am 2007-11-14 um 08:48 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I use MikeTex TeXnicCenter for writing Context with Lilypond.
I don't know if t-lilypond will work on Windows at all.
You need:
- a rather recent version of ConTeXt (yours seems ok)
- a rather recent version of pdfTeX (dito)
- latest version of t-lilypond (from contextgarden)
- LilyPond 2.10.x (previous or 2.11 versions don't work at the moment!)
Try a \startlilypond ... \stoplilypond block instead of inline
\lilypond{} - the latter is never tested and won't probably work at all.
Try if you can call lilypond and pstopdf on the commandline.
I don't understand why you name your file LaTeX, but that shouldn't
cause any error.
I'd never put any files in C-root, either (depending on your Windows
version, TeX might be prohibited to write there).
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Re: [NTG-context] encoding for gothic fonts (was: Long s in ConTeXt)
Am 2007-11-15 um 11:35 schrieb Andreas Hauser: How do I go about finding a font that contains all my special characters? I have at least ſ (long s), aͤ (a^e SMALL e ABOVE), ʒ etc. Most are from a historical context. And a lot of ligatures. As I understand Mac OS is able to produce arbitrary ligatures. But will this work on a Linux too? That reminds me: I was considering making font packs for some nice freeware gothic fonts. I didn't check yet what characters are contained in which, but I guess ConTeXt would need some logic to enable proper typesetting of blackletter text, e.g. handling s and ſ. Have to look at Yannis' efforts for LaTeX, too. And I guess I must recode these fonts to follow Unicode standards (should be manageable with a fontforge script). Any thoughts on that subject? Did someone already care for proper gothic typesetting with ConTeXt? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] encoding for gothic fonts
Am 2007-11-18 um 10:30 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: I didn't check yet what characters are contained in which, but I guess ConTeXt would need some logic to enable proper typesetting of blackletter text, e.g. handling s and ſ. Have to look at Yannis' efforts for LaTeX, too. And I guess I must recode these fonts to follow Unicode standards (should be manageable with a fontforge script). Do you mean Yannis' yfrac etc.? IIRC, that depends on his special fonts. While browsing, I found this package: http://www.lg.fukuoka-u.ac.jp/~ynagata/khmpackage.html Thank you. I'm trying to follow the most modern approach: OpenType features - if I manage to put the logic into the font, it's usable also with InDesign. Even if I don't know if ConTeXt (i.e. XeTeX/ LuaTeX) will handle stuff like alternative characters well. At the moment I'm struggling filling the GSUB tables with FontForge... (it's easy *if* you know exactly what you do) PS gothic latex is an interesting search term :-) I guess one will find more black than letters and more masked than type faces. ;-) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] gnupdf.org
Am 2007-11-24 um 07:33 schrieb luigi scarso: http://tinyurl.com/3bahws http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso#Cool_links (well, no so coool..) I collect links about pdf, libray, edit . Given i'm working with python sometimes I use http://pybrary.net/pyPdf/ If you know others, feel free to add them. http://ccxvii.net/apparition/ http://www.fpdf.org/ (PHP) http://portablesigner.sourceforge.net/ (sign PDFs - might be useful to implement in someTeX) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupbodyfont[handwritten]
Am 2007-11-26 um 01:19 schrieb Maurí cio: When I use \setupbodyfont[handwritten] or \setupbodyfont[calligraphic], I get fonts which do not look like handwritten or calligraphic. Other options give consistent results (sans, type, serif etc.). What should I check in order to get those to work? I use a standard Ubuntu 7.10 installation, and never changed anything. There's simply nothing predefined as default hw or cg fonts; you can use these styles with your own typescripts, though. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Visually replace one character by another one automatically
Am 2007-11-27 um 17:15 schrieb Jeff Smith:
On Nov 27, 2007 10:23 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tlig=yes trep=yes
trep! Works perfecly.
It it's only about quotes, you should consider using \quote{} and
\quotation{} instead of typing more or less correct quotation marks.
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Re: [NTG-context] Visually replace one character by another one automatically
Am 2007-11-28 um 20:07 schrieb Jeff Smith:
On Nov 28, 2007 1:26 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It it's only about quotes, you should consider using \quote{} and
\quotation{} instead of typing more or less correct quotation marks.
Indeed. Anyway I already use \quote. :-) My question was rather about
the apostrophe alone, like in it's, or don't, or l'orange,
l'homme, which typographically should be like the comma (i.e. the
single quotation mark). Therefore, you really have to use the symbol
itself in the input.
Just write your own keyboard mapping – at least for MacOSX or Linux
it’s rather easy.
E.g. my usual keymap gives access to all accented Latin plus Greek
and lots of other characters - I only keep forgetting what’s where,
though, and it still contains some bugs ;-)
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Re: [NTG-context] Default LaTeX font
Am 2007-12-01 um 19:35 schrieb Xan: On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:20:46PM +0100, Xavier J. B. L. wrote: I know that Context uses Latin Modern instead of Computer Modern that use Latex. I want to know how to change it. \usepackage[lmodern] should work. Cheers, Peter In context? I want to change Latin Modern to Computer Modern in context. Why? LM is the better version of CM, visually the same font. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Long s in ConTeXt
Am 2007-11-18 um 10:02 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Andreas Hauser wrote: How do I go about finding a font that contains all my special characters? That's the problem, and it depends somewhat on what you are doing. If your text will be historical, you will probably need lots of old ligatures and abbreviation glyphs that may not be available in any current font at all. I just found the MUFI homepage (Mediaeval Unicode Font Initiative), they seem to target mainly Old Norse: http://www.mufi.info/ From their specs I learned that the combining e and o accents are already in the Unicode standard (0364). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Greek: GR or EL? Czech: CZ or CS? UK: Ukrainian or ...
2007/12/5, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! deo ist modern German in old orthography (pre-2005). OK, so I guess that's what RFC 4646 suggests de-1996 for -- I suppose the reform was first introduced in 1996 and adopted only later? See ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4646.txt, page 13 (Mojca, the preceding paragraph is for you ;-) Maybe; we've now the 42th reform of the reform - a lot is back to pre-reform orthography (or both styles are allowed). 2005 was only a estimation - AFAIR in 2005 the reformed orthography became standard for schools and public authorities. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv
Am 2007-12-07 um 19:17 schrieb Hans Hagen: As a prelude to an independent language mechanism for mkiv (the tex part) I removes a few thingies. I was wondering ... is anyone using language specifics? Active quote stuff? Does that still make sense for mkiv? After all we can have more advanced exceptions and we have utf ... Perhaps I don't really understand what you mean, but I always use \quote and \quotation and sometimes also change the language according to my text -- did you mean that with active quote stuff? Or just that strange Italian (or French?) quoting style with quotation marks in front of every line? Or something completely different? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?
Am 2007-12-09 um 00:10 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
In some old documents. In newer documents I use \quote and
\quotation.
Then there are documents that need to move back and forth between
latex
and context but for them I can easily define appropriate macros in
latex.
To be honest: I never had the slightest idea how to get proper
(Slovenian, lower nine double quote) quotation marks in LaTeX (or
what's the suggested way to do it :). That's why I now use
\def\quotation#1{...} in LaTeX as well (in case I need to fix other
people's stuff).
Since I found ConTeXt (did only 1 LaTeX project before), I’m using
\quote/\quotation
IMO we are allowed to force ConTeXt users to use that or proper
characters.
Some ligatures are handy indeed:
-- - endash
--- - emdash
' - right single quote (I'm, isn't etc.)
Sure. Those three replacements/ligatures were not under a question.
They should stay, IMO.
+1 from me, there seems to be no alternative if your keyboard mapping
doesn’t allow to input such directly.
(Even if I like to encourage people to write their own enhanced
keymaps if theirs doesn’t contain what they need – my one gives me
all European characters except Cyrillic ’cause I don’t need it...)
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter without number but in table of contents
Am 2007-12-15 um 17:33 schrieb Patrick Gundlach:
\starttext
\completecontent
[alternative=c]
\chapter{chapter1}
\chapter{chapter2}
\chapter{chapter3}
\definehead[mychapter][chapter]
\setuphead [mychapter][number=no,incrementnumber=list]
\mychapter{chapter4}
\stoptext
--
I'd like to have an (unnumbered) entry for 'chapter4' in the table of
contents.
I'd setup my own combinedlist on mychapter.
From my last project:
\setuphead[Titel][style={\hw\tfa}, page=yes, number=no, textcommand=
\TitelFrame]
\setuphead[TitelNoToc][style={\hw\tfa}, page=yes, number=no,
textcommand=\TitelFrame]
\setuphead[TitelNoPage][style={\hw\tfa}, page=no, number=no,
textcommand=\TitelFrame]
\setuphead[TitelKlein][style={\hw\tfb}, page=no, number=no,
textcommand=\TitelFrameKlein]
% define combined table of contents
\definecombinedlist [inhalt]
[Titel, TitelKlein, TitelNoPage]
[level=Titel, placehead=yes, criterium=all,
alternative=b,
offset=none]
\setupcombinedlist [inhalt] [partnumber=no]
\placeinhalt
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Re: [NTG-context] ghost in data ?
Am 2007-12-15 um 20:58 schrieb Patrick Gundlach: But – Patrick you work on Mac, too – in which editor/application can I actually *see* a difference? Don't ask me. I've used emacs and asked it (C-u C-x =) to get me information on the character and it told me the unicode codepoint. I'm on a Mac, too. I use TextWrangler (free edition of BBedit, http://www.barebones.com/ products/textwrangler/download.shtml), there you can open (and re- open) a file in different encodings - i.e. open a UTF encoded file as ISO-Latin-1, enable show invisibles and you can see the whole cruft. Or look at a hex dump. I know no other editor (with a GUI, not vi or emacs) that makes encoding changes so easy! It can even point you at the characters that don't fit into some encoding into that you tried to save. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] header to register
Ahoi!
For a songbook I need a alphabetically sorted TOC.
As easy workaround I tried to use an register/index.
But I'd like to get my headers into the index without typing \index
all the time.
But with my following setup I get only garbage numbers instead of my
titles:
\setuphead[Titel]
[style={\hw\tfa}, page=yes, number=no, textcommand=\TitelFrame]
\def\TitelFrame#1{\index{#1}%
\framed[
width=\textwidth,
height=7.5mm,
frame=off,
align={right,high},
after={}, before={}]%
{\switchtobodyfont[12pt]\hw\tfa #1}%
}
My .tuo file contains lines like:
\listentry{Titel}{2}{}{nihil ita ut videtur}{2--0-1-0-0-0-0-0--1}{3}%
...
\registerpage{index}{,}{1}{\dowritetolist \@@koppeling {}{nihil ita
ut videtur}\v!head }}\fi \executeifdefined {\??ko Titel\c!
deeptextcommand }\firstofoneargument {nihil ita ut videtur}\endstrut }
{2--0-1-0-0-0-0-0--1}%
The 5th instead of the 4th parameter of \listentry is printed in the
index.
My fault or a bug?
Versions:
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
ConTeXt ver: 2008.01.17 11:52 MKII fmt: 2008.1.17 int: english/
english
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Re: [NTG-context] header to register
Am 2008-01-21 um 10:33 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
My .tuo file contains lines like:
\listentry{Titel}{2}{}{nihil ita ut videtur}{2--0-1-0-0-0-0-0--1}{3}%
...
\registerpage{index}{,}{1}{\dowritetolist \@@koppeling {}{nihil ita
ut videtur}\v!head }}\fi \executeifdefined {\??ko Titel\c!
deeptextcommand }\firstofoneargument {nihil ita ut videtur}
\endstrut }
{2--0-1-0-0-0-0-0--1}%
The 5th instead of the 4th parameter of \listentry is printed in the
index.
My fault or a bug?
I haven't tested you example but you can try my solution.
Thank you very much, but I'd like to stay with the index - I already
added index entries for all my first lines of lyrics.
These entries work, but I'd really like to know why I get those
numbers instead of my title strings.
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Re: [NTG-context] header to register
Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use
deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame.
Thank you, I always forget about \expanded, and I didn't know about
deeptextcommand at all...
But it doesn't work, it stops with:
TitelNoToc : - Inhalt
(./prd_creator.tuo
! Argument of \textormathspace has an extra }.
inserted text
\par
to be read again
}
\doregistertexthowto ...?id #1\c!textcommand }{#2}
\dostopattributes
\dohandleregisterentry ...exthowto {\v!index }{#1}
\fi \egroup \!!
doneafalse
\c!entrya ...urround \z@ \ldots \textormathspace }
\global
\firstregisterentr...
argument \c!entrya
\c!entryb \c!entryc \c!entryd
...
l.177 ...age{index}{,}{21}{2--0-6-0-0-0-0-0--5}{7}
probably caused by \dots in:
\Titel{Wach nun auf\dots}
with those definitions:
--- 8 ---
\def\dots{\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace}
\definehead[Titel][chapter]
\definehead[TitelNoToc][chapter]
\definehead[TitelNoPage][chapter]
\definehead[TitelKlein][chapter]
\def\TitelFrame#1{\expanded{\index{#1}}%
\framed[
width=\textwidth,
height=7.5mm,
frame=off,
align={right,high},
after={}, before={}]%
{\switchtobodyfont[12pt]\hw\tfa #1}}
\def\TitelFrameKlein#1{\expanded{\index{#1}}%
\framed[
width=\textwidth,
height=5mm,
frame=off,
align={right,high},
after={}, before={}]%
{\switchtobodyfont[10pt]\hw\tfb #1}}
\setuphead[Titel][page=yes, number=no, deeptextcommand=\TitelFrame]
\setuphead[TitelNoToc][page=yes, number=no, deeptextcommand=\TitelFrame]
\setuphead[TitelNoPage][page=no, number=no, deeptextcommand=\TitelFrame]
\setuphead[TitelKlein][page=no, number=no, deeptextcommand=
\TitelFrameKlein]
--- 8 ---
Does that mean that must not use any commands (like \dots) in my
\expanded{\index{#1}}?
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Re: [NTG-context] header to register
Am 2008-01-28 um 09:16 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
On Jan 23, 2008 10:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use
deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame.
Thank you, I always forget about \expanded, and I didn't know about
deeptextcommand at all...
Does that mean that must not use any commands (like \dots) in my
\expanded{\index{#1}}?
You could use \unknown
What should that do? And where/how would I use it?
Please don't expect me to know any lowlevel commands...
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[NTG-context] exploring register options
Can someone tell me, if the following options of \setupregister are supposed to have some effect (I couldn't see any): style (pagestyle and textstyle work) command (pagecommand and textcommand work) location (Just fixed the texshow description.) I didn't check those (also undocumented): expansion maxwidth unknownreference I wonder who needs alternative b or B: the indicator (index letter) just in front of the first word without any distance is just ugly IMO and decreases readability. Other styles (alternatives) would probably make more sense, like right-aligned (flushleft) page numbers - how can I do that? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] header to register (SOLVED)
Am 2008-01-29 um 21:01 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
Here's a rather minimal working example that shows the index problem
(even if not the failure with my actual project):
\setuphead[chapter][page=no, number=no, textcommand=\MyTitle]
Sorry, in this case it's solvable with deeptextcommand=\MyTitle
And in my actual project I moved the \index to another place:
\def\TitelFrame#1{% Titel mit/ohne Formatierung
\framed[
width=\textwidth,
height=7.5mm,
frame=off,
align={right,high},
after={}, before={}]%
{\index{#1}\switchtobodyfont[12pt]\hw\tfa #1}}
It doesn't work with \index before \framed or in before={}, what I
tried before.
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Re: [NTG-context] header to register
Am 2008-01-29 um 18:48 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid:
So do I. But I still use \dots mostly so I did not realize the
difference;
I thought they were the same (or forgot they are different).
Why the different definitions I wonder? Till then I'll proabably
\let\textellipsis=\unknown.
(there a short discussion about this topic a
long time ago).
Yes, I was thinking of that when I wrote... need to research/review it
again...
And I guess my usual redefinition of \dots as
\def\dots{\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace}
stems from one of that discussions.
But let me please revive the subject of this thread:
My problem is not with \dots, but with \index within a header command
like this:
\setuphead[Titel][page=yes, number=no, textcommand=\TitelFrame]
\def\TitelFrame#1{\index{#1}%
\framed[
width=\textwidth,
height=7.5mm,
frame=off,
align={right,high}]%
{\hw\tfa #1}%
}
I can't tell if it's an expansion problem, but that's probable,
because a single \index{foo} works.
Here's a rather minimal working example that shows the index problem
(even if not the failure with my actual project):
\starttext
\def\MyTitle#1{{\index{#1}\bfa #1}}
\setuphead[chapter][page=no, number=no, textcommand=\MyTitle]
\chapter{Lalala}
\input tufte
\chapter{Bingo}
\input tufte
\chapter{Abrakadabra}
\input tufte
\completeindex
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] header to register
Am 2008-01-30 um 16:48 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid:
isn't this just a bug in lmodern? In any decent font,
\textellipsis in
fact gives exactly the output you get from \unknown here. There
may be
historical reasons why the glyph looks that way in cm and lm, but it
certainly is unexpected compared to other fonts.
Or a bug in mkii:
enco-utf.tex:
Line 3055 : \def\textellipsis {…} % HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS
enco-def.tex:
\definecharacter textellipsis {\mathematics\cdots}
At least with Century Schoolbook on MkII \textellipsis is vertically
shifted (like the colon · ), while \unknown or \dots sits on the
baseline (…).
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Re: [NTG-context] Need of a new global option for indenting?
Am 2008-01-30 um 19:53 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Sorry to bother you with this question again, but I didn't get any definitive answer in the previous discussion: wouldn't it be useful to have a new option in \setupindenting that indents EVERY paragraph? I mean even after floats, formulae, heads, etc. This is a french typographical tradition thing, isn't it? Not, it's not only French. I already had (German) customers who demanded every paragraph to be indented. That doesn't mean that it makes sense, but one should be able to activate that behaviour rather easily. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Need of a new global option for indenting?
Am 2008-01-30 um 19:53 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Sorry to bother you with this question again, but I didn't get any definitive answer in the previous discussion: wouldn't it be useful to have a new option in \setupindenting that indents EVERY paragraph? I mean even after floats, formulae, heads, etc. This is a french typographical tradition thing, isn't it? Not, it's not only French. I already had (German) customers who demanded every paragraph to be indented. That doesn't mean that it makes sense, but one should be able to activate that behaviour rather easily. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Need of a new global option for indenting?
Am 2008-01-30 um 19:53 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Sorry to bother you with this question again, but I didn't get any definitive answer in the previous discussion: wouldn't it be useful to have a new option in \setupindenting that indents EVERY paragraph? I mean even after floats, formulae, heads, etc. This is a french typographical tradition thing, isn't it? Not, it's not only French. I already had (German) customers who demanded every paragraph to be indented. That doesn't mean that it makes sense, but one should be able to activate that behaviour rather easily. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?
Am 2008-01-31 um 16:08 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: I have often seen (in arabic newpapers) the percentage sign set left to the number % 18. Recently I read an article (http://sehstoerung.sonance.net/pdfs/ TitusNemeth_dissertation.pdf) that calls this ... the incorrect placement of the percentage sign. Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? It really depends on where you live. In Persian, 18% is common, among Arabs, %18. Both languages are left-to-right, but there is more than one convention for dealing with mathematical directionality. Some of these issues are still being worked about in the Arabic-script world. These subtlties need to be addressed for proper high-level handling of Arabic-script in ConTeXt/mkiv. Hm, reminds me of conventions where you place currency symbols - depending on if you live in a economist/accountant surrounding... Do you think some automated handling of such is possible at all? I know nothing about Arabic script, of course... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for installation instructions
Am 2008-02-06 um 15:50 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: So, I have a little request: can we devote one week (or 10 days if neded) for improvement of installation instructions? This means: - improve a generic page (Installation) with links, general notes about dependencies (ruby, perl), general settings (\useMPTEXgraphicstrue, \preloadtypescripts, write18, texexec --make --all, ctxtools --updatecontext, ..), release notes - three (or slightly more) main pages: Windows Installation, Mac Installation, Linux Installation I just cleaned up the Mac page (it was really messy) and added a hint to the minimal distribution - that page goes under the bad name of Linux_User_Installation. I guess we should rename that. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] latest release doesn't make
Ahoi, just tried to update via ctxtools, but making formats stops at Greek hyphenation patterns: (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. l.234 ᾿ 2ρ1῾2ρ If I press r to continue I get a long list of more Greek nonletters. Is that caused by the known LM change? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] latest release doesn't make
Am 2008-02-17 um 20:12 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Running 0.20.2 0r 0.22.0 ? I eased the pattern file rules a bit for 0.22.0, it could be that is why Hans has no problems? Whatever the version is that I get at 2007-02-17 22:11 via ctxtools still shows the problem. My setup is TeX Live 2007 without additional binaries (LuaTeX) on MacOS X 10.4 Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Reader, PNG transparency and colors
Am 2008-02-20 um 19:54 schrieb Martin Schröder: However, there seems to be one more strange thing (not that big): If I include some transparent stuff on a light background (i.e. a metapost figure on a light gray screen), there's a visible rectangle around it (on the screen). Don't you what's the cause and how to solve it? Probably a bug in Adobe Reader. We don't draw rectangles around included images. :-) Yes, it's unfortunately normal at least in Acrobat 7 and 8, also in Apple's PDF viewer (in Preview, Mail etc.). In my experience esp. transparent (or flattened) elements show a fine white border - but if you zoom in, it stays the same fine line or sometimes disappeares. And it never shows in print. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (References title in) Norwegian
Am 2008-02-22 um 08:26 schrieb Trond Lossius: I was just about to ask how to do the same concerning the list of contents when I realized that it automagically translates itself when using \mainlanguage[no] I remember a discussion whether ConTeXt's Norwegian is Bokmål or Nynorsk (I don't understand any and don't know the difference) - is this matter settled? We should add this information in the Wiki at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Language_Codes The same goes for Spanish (Catalan, other...) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using Postscript Type 1 fonts in ConTeXt/XeTeX?
Some of your statements seem wrong or at least confusing to me: Am 2008-03-01 um 13:19 schrieb Roland: Seems we never posted the conclusion about this problem: XeTeX simply doesn't work with the old Mac Type 1 Postscript fonts on Mac OS X (Leopard or before). The reason is that these old fonts store their data in the resource fork, which Unix utilities like XeTeX don't see. Only TrueType or OpenType fonts will be recognised and loaded correctly. As you state later, all data fork fonts (TrueType, OpenType and PostScript) should work. For I never tried XeTeX I don't know if PS Type 1 and 3 will work. Isn't it possible to use traditional TeX-installed fonts with XeTeX? PCs don't have the data fork PCs don't know the Mac *resource* fork. BTW there are different forks *possible* with NTFS (supported from WinNT to XP, no more in Vista)! For those with access to a font conversion program like fondu (?) fontforge (?) or fontlab (?) it may be possible to convert the old Type 1 font fondu is by the same author as fontforge; look at http://fondu.sourceforge.net/ http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Landscape typesetting on portrait page
Am 2008-03-06 um 12:04 schrieb John Devereux: I have a document containing a wide table. I would like to have the table rotated 90 degrees, along with the text on that page (which would be in three columns above the table). So I would have (view in fixed pitch) Did you try \rotate at all? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: Chaos TV #122 «Typesettin g»
If you're interested in historical typesetting, here's a documentary about line-o-type typesetters from the 1960s. (Italian production in English, see last link) Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: Von: Martin Wilhelm Leidig Datum: 24. März 2008 17:58:13 GMT+01:00 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: FYI: Chaosradio Express #80 «Geschichte der Typ ographie», Chaos TV #122 «Typesetting» Chaosradio Express beschäftigt sich in der Ausgabe CRE080 mit der Geschichte der Typographie, Untertitel «Die technische Entwicklung des Buchdrucks von Gutenberg bis heute» - http:// chaosradio.ccc.de/cre080.html bzw. http://chaosradio.ccc.de/ archive/chaosradio_express_080.mp3 (121,4 MByte). Dazu passend gibt’s im Chaos TV einen Lehrfilm aus dem Jahr 1960 über den Aufbau einer Linotype-Bleisatzmaschine - http:// chaosradio.ccc.de/ctv122.html bzw. http://chaosradio.ccc.de/ media/video/typesetting.mp4 (MPEG-4 H.264 Video 320x240, 169,5 MByte). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese and English typesetting
Just an idea (I know nothing about Asian scripts and don't need those
features myself):
Would it perhaps possible to hook that font switch into the language
mechanism?
Like if I change the language between latin-script languages with
{\de Deutsch} and get different typography, e.g. other quotation marks.
Perhaps it would be a good solution to use something like:
\setuplanguage[en]{fontfamily=MySerif}
\setuplanguage[cn]{fontfamily=Songti}
\mainlanguage[cn]
\starttext
我用英文进行{\en Hello World}测试。
\stoptext
At least that looks logical to me...
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Re: [NTG-context] UTF-8 characters and gnuplot module
Am 2008-03-25 um 18:11 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Morgan Brassel wrote: set xlabel 'I\'\ m sorry!' If UTF-8 works, why don’t you just use a proper apostrophe (’ vs. ') then? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] margins
Am 2008-03-25 um 01:51 schrieb Joel C. Salomon: In other words, you want large inner margins and small outer margins. However, the standard behaviour seems to be the opposite. For very good reason. When a two-page spread is laid flat, it usually looks best if the outer margins are both approximately equal in width to the combined inner margins. The default layout takes that into account. While the binding of a book does eat some of the inner margin, it's probably less than you think (IIRC, from ¼ʺ to ½ʺ, depending on the binding method), and often the print shop can correct for that. (If you need to be exact, measure against a book bound where your book will be and in the same method.) It depends on the binding method. The traditional margin sizes are only good for thread-stitching. If your book's bound threadless (perfect binding, Wire-O etc.) your inner margins need to be bigger (not always bigger as the outer, but at least bigger than the traditional measures). It's not only that the bookbinder mills away a few millimeters of the page - you can't open a adhesive bound book as much as a thread- stitched, so you need a wider gutter to be able to read the book without destroying the binding. (Or in case of spiral binding the holes for the wire need enough space.) And if you need to send your PDF print-ready to your printshop (maybe books-on-demand maker), there's nobody else who will correct for that. Insofar the OP's question is well justified. Even if he could have found the answer easily himself: Of course you can define your page layout at will, see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban (typesetter printing engineer) --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New Member Introductory Rant
Am 2008-03-31 um 17:33 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: How-to-find-your-way-thru-the-source Tutorial for total newbie. The first thing that you need to know is the file where a particular command is defined. You can search the source tree on contextgarden; or grep the files in your computer. After a while you will remember which file defines a particular command. In case someone overread this: You can search the source tree on contextgarden http://source.contextgarden.net/ And besides the wiki pages, a lot of command documentation is in texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net/ (Even if unfortunately some groups of commands are missing completely.) On my mac, they are hidden: so, first step, change your visualization preferences thru a googled script form Terminal. Sorry, I have no idea of how things work on a Mac, but it seems strange to hide the entire tex tree. MacOS X hides most of its UNIX stuff from a normal user. But you can just e.g. open /usr/ in Terminal and continue to browse in Finder. Third, and most important, how to extract infos from sources? This is the easiest. Most of ConTeXt commands are written in a consistent manner. Hans uses verbose variable names, which makes it easy to read the code. Also in most cases the source files have lot of comments. And I guess the ConTeXt sources are the only place where the Dodo survived. (At least every Dodo would feel at home between all those dodododos.) ;-) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Footnote in section: Compilation stops on TUO file
I don't understand this error:
(/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tst.tex)
interaction : active(./prd_05.tuo) (./prd_05.tuo! Improper
alphabetic constant.to be read again\footnote
argument \ifnum `\footnote =255 32
\else `\footnote \fi \utfdiv #1-\the \numexpr \ifcase \numexpr
#1 \relax 0\else (#1-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] )/\utf...
\PDFunicodechar ...bers [EMAIL PROTECTED] {\number \utfdiv
{#1} [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\lchexnumbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] {...
\nodoPDFuni ...ar {\ifnum `#1=255 32\else `#1
\fi } \doPDFuni
\bookmarktext ...-?und?Erziehungsauftrag
\footnote {H.?P.,?
Humanist?R..l.176 ...ion for Europe}{2--0-7-0-0-0-0-0--49}
{50} %? eNo pages of
output.
It seems to be caused by this line, i.e. by the footnote:
\section{Bildungs- und Erziehungsauftrag\footnote{H. P., Humanist
Road to European Citizenship, Zitate aus Verfassungen, 15.\,12.\,2007}}
And in the TUO file there's:
\mainreference{}{fnt:t:5}{2--0-6-5-0-0-0-0--45}{46}{}%\pospxywhd{text:
47}{47}{42.67912pt}{62.59607pt}{327.20668pt}{489.38742pt}{0.0pt}%
\listentry{subsection}{76}{}{Baden-Württemberg}{2--0-6-6-16-0-0-0--46}
{47}%\listentry{subsection}{77}{}{Bayern}{2--0-6-6-17-0-0-0--46}{47}%
\listentry{subsection}{78}{}{Brandenburg}{2--0-6-6-18-0-0-0--46}{47}%
\listentry{subsection}{79}{}{Berlin}{2--0-6-6-19-0-0-0--46}{47}%
\listentry{subsection}{80}{}{Bremen}{2--0-6-6-20-0-0-0--46}{47}%
\listentry{section}{81}{}{Bildungs- und Erziehungsauftrag\footnote
{H. P., Humanist Road to European Citizenship, Zitate aus
Verfassungen, 15.\,12.\,2007}}{2--0-6-7-0-0-0-0--46}{47}%
\mainreference{}{fnt:f:6}{2--0-6-7-0-0-0-0--46}{47}{}%\listentry
{subsection}{115}{}{Hessen}{2--0-6-7-34-0-0-0--46}{47}%\listentry
{subsection}{116}{}{Mecklenburg-Vorpommern}{2--0-6-7-35-0-0-0--46}
{47}%\listentry{subsection}{117}{}{Niedersachsen}
{2--0-6-7-36-0-0-0--46}{47}%
What's wrong?
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[NTG-context] several details (maybe bugs)
While typesetting some proceedings, I stumpled upon the following issues: (1) \setupheads seems to do nothing - I must set every option for every head separately. AFAIR this is broken forever, at least it was the same in 2000. (2) \setuphead[chapter][header=none] should switch off the header only on that page where the chapter starts, shouldn't it? (It disables headers completely.) Or how else would I achieve that? (3) \startitemize[n] Numbered itemizations suddenly(?) start with 0 - as this may be suitable for programmers, but it's, ehm, a bit unusual in every other context. Hm, it works in the garden. (4) Is it possible to include footnotes in tables in the normal footnote numbering and placement? (At the moment I use localfootnotes to enable footnotes in tables at all, but that's unsatisfying.) (5) Is it possible to disable hyphenation in titles? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Streams in two columns
I'm trying to typeset English and German texts in two columns.
With the following example every bilingual section goes on a new
page. How can I avoid that?
(Using only columns instead of columnsets I get single-section
pages with alternating languages.)
%% setup
\definecolumnset[twocol][n=2]
\setuphead[chapter][page=no, number=no, align=right]
\usemodule[streams]
% example from the streams module
% only enhanced by columnset
\def\StartCouple{\page\startcolumnset[twocol]\SwitchToNormal}
\def\StopCouple {\SwitchToNormal \SynchronizeLeftAndRight
\FlushLeftAndRight\stopcolumnset}
\def\Original {\SwitchToNormal\SynchronizeLeftAndRight\SwitchToLeft}
\def\Translation{\SwitchToRight}
%% text snippet
\StartCouple
\Original\de
\chapter{Ein säkulares Europa -- der Weg zur europäischen
Staatsbürgerlichkeit}
\Translation\en
\chapter{A Secular Europe -- the Road to European Citizenship}
\Original\de
Zum 50. Jahrestag der Unterzeichnung der Römischen Verträge der
Europäischen Union hat die European Humanist Federation am 25. März
2007 die Brüsseler Erklärung veröffentlicht. Hierin wird nochmals
bekräftigt, dass Europa auf einer Vielzahl von Kulturen und
Traditionen beruht, und seine Bürger der Geschichtsklitterung vom
christlichen Abendland entgegenwirken müssen.
\Translation\en
At the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Rome treaties which
established the European Union the European Humanist Federation
published the Brussels declaration. It affirms once more Europe’s
foundation to consist of many cultures and traditions and reminds its
citizens to work against the biased historical account of the
Christian occident.
\StopCouple
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Re: [NTG-context] several details (maybe bugs)
Am 2008-04-05 um 17:08 schrieb David: (3) \startitemize[n] Numbered itemizations suddenly(?) start with 0 - as this may be suitable for programmers, but it's, ehm, a bit unusual in every other context. I don't have the final answer on this, but I have run into this starts with zero problem when my corresponding \stopitemize is missing or not in the correct place. Ah, sorry - I spoke too soon: It happened only with texexec --once Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Footnote in section: Compilation stops on TUO file
Am 2008-04-05 um 17:35 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
It seems to be caused by this line, i.e. by the footnote:
\section{Bildungs- und Erziehungsauftrag\footnote{H. P., Humanist
Road to European Citizenship, Zitate aus Verfassungen, 15.\,12.\,
2007}}
You can try \section{blah blah \nomarking{\footnote{...}}
or \section{blah blah \nolist{\footnote{...}}}
Thanks for the hint, but it doesn't work - neither with one nor with
both.
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Re: [NTG-context] Footnote in section: Compilation stops on TUO file
Am 2008-04-05 um 21:52 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid:
You can try \section{blah blah \nomarking{\footnote{...}}
or \section{blah blah \nolist{\footnote{...}}}
Thanks for the hint, but it doesn't work - neither with one nor with
both.
Did you remember to flush the old tuo file first? :-)
I deleted all temp files after every try, that should be enough.
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[NTG-context] first steps with XeTeX
Since I need to typeset some names with characters outside of ec encoding, I'm just checking out XeTeX. - first threshold: If you have \setupoutput[pdftex] in cont-sys.tex, it doesn't work. ;-) (Complains you should use pdftex binaries.) - second threshold: Adapt your typescripts. Since I use TeX Gyre anyway, that was no problem. (Is there still no complete type-gyr.tex in the distribution? I couldn't find it.) - third threshold (standing there): XeTeX can't read tagged PDFs. For I typeset proceedings, I must include a lot of pages from presentation PDFs. And even if I'd call myself a PDF professional, I didn't find a way to delete all tags from a PDF. I could convert everything to EPS or even render the pages in Photoshop. But I'd prefer to stay with the PDFs. Any ideas? Tomorrow I'll try to use an additional PostScript font - is that even possible? Otherwise I must convert it to OpenType. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Footnote in section: Compilation stops on TUO file
Am 2008-04-05 um 23:11 schrieb zs: Finally I found that all my problems disappear when I avoid using these tables http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table replacing them by http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE So ... if you use tables No, I use TABLEs and tabulates, but not around this footnote. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] first steps with XeTeX
Am 2008-04-05 um 23:58 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: Since I need to typeset some names with characters outside of ec encoding, I'm just checking out XeTeX. why not luatex? Because I don't like to recompile my binaries all the time. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] first steps with XeTeX
Am 2008-04-06 um 04:35 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Since I need to typeset some names with characters outside of ec encoding, I'm just checking out XeTeX. - first threshold: If you have \setupoutput[pdftex] in cont-sys.tex, it doesn't work. ;-) (Complains you should use pdftex binaries.) Since texmfstart era, pdf is the default output format anyway, so you really need to try hard to produce dvi. Simply remove \setupoutput[pdftex] (why do you need it there?) Seems I don't need it - I just don't change my cont-sys.tex as long as I don't run into trouble. Since I use ConTeXt since 1999 now, there may be some unneeded settings. ;-) But in that days (at least before XeTeX/luaTeX) it wasn't so easy to find a working configuration. - second threshold: Adapt your typescripts. Since I use TeX Gyre anyway, that was no problem. (Is there still no complete type-gyr.tex in the distribution? I couldn't find it.) TeX Gyre typescripts are loaded by default when you use XeTeX or LuaTeX. See type-otf.tex - third threshold (standing there): XeTeX can't read tagged PDFs. For I typeset proceedings, I must include a lot of pages from presentation PDFs. And even if I'd call myself a PDF professional, I didn't find a way to delete all tags from a PDF. Did you try to convert the PDF to 1.4 (with Adobe Professional for example)? Yes, even 1.3. Tried optimizing (that *should* delete all unnecessary cruft). It seems possible to delete tags with one of the TouchUp tools, but the PDF stays tagged anyway. Else you need to ask on the XeTeX mailing list. (But indeed: why not trying out LuaTeX?) I'm too lazy to recompile my binaries all the time; my old Mac is rather slow... Tomorrow I'll try to use an additional PostScript font - is that even possible? Otherwise I must convert it to OpenType. It is, but which OS and what kind of PostScript font are you using? Mac type of PostScript fonts doesn't work (or better: it only works with xdv2pdf, which isn't supported in ConTeXt any more). You can use the windows type Type1 fonts (i.e. just the normal .pfb files). That should work on any system, but on Mac you need to reference it by filename. Font name won't work. Ok, thanks. I guess I could have found out on my own, but was too tired yesterday... I knew that resource fork fonts don't work. But I installed all necessary fonts for pdfTeX anyway. Lots of them, back in 2004/2005, see my typescripts collection: http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4lang=en BTW: I'd love to come to the gathering in Slovenija, but I must typeset my main project (a monthly city magazine) at that time. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] analyzing type-otf.tex
(1)
Shouldn't these typescripts get splitted?:
from
\starttypescript [serif]
[adventor,bonum,cursor,heros,pagella,schola,termes]
to
\starttypescript [serif] [bonum,pagella,schola,termes]
\starttypescript [sans] [adventor,heros]
\starttypescript [mono] [cursor]
plus
\starttypescript [calligraphy] [chorus]
and from
\starttypescript [serif] [pagella,termes,bonum,schola,chorus] [name]
to
\starttypescript [serif] [pagella,termes,bonum,schola] [name]
\starttypescript [calligraphy] [chorus] [name]
(2)
This seems wrong to me (i.e. I don't understand it):
\starttypescript [serif]
[adventor,bonum,cursor,heros,pagella,schola,termes]
\definefontsynonym
[\typescriptprefix{n:\typescripttwo}-Regular]
[file:texgyre\typescriptthree\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo}-
regular]
[features=default]
That defines e.g. TeXGyrePagella-Regular -- file:texgyre???pagella-
regular
Why is there \typescriptthree without a third parameter of the
typescript?
And what file means file:texgyre\typescriptthree?
I thought, file: should be followed by a proper filename like {n:
\typescripttwo}-Regular?
Are the first and second parameters swapped?
(3)
I get (maybe from that):
kpathsea: Illegal fontname `texgyrename,default,ec,specialschola-
regular': contains ','! Font \*gyr-
mix12ptrmtfrm*:=texgyrename,default,ec,specialschola-regular at
12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file or installed font not found.
This is my setup:
\usetypescriptfile [type-otf]
\usetypescriptfile [type-urw]
\starttypescript[fiee] [gyr-mix]
\definetypeface [gyr-mix] [rm][serif] [schola]
[default]
\definetypeface [gyr-mix] [ss][sans] [urw-grotesk-narrow]
[default]
[encoding=ec]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript [fiee][gyr-mix]
\setupbodyfont [gyr-mix,rm,8pt]
Where's my error?
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Re: [NTG-context] first steps with XeTeX
Am 2008-04-06 um 14:24 schrieb Martin Schröder: why not luatex? Because I don't like to recompile my binaries all the time. So use debian. :-) Norbert provides up-to-date luatex packages. Debian installs not so good on a PPC Mac and doesn't run my expensive Adobe apps ;-) (And I doubt if Norbert provides Linux PPC binaries...) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] analyzing type-otf.tex
Am 2008-04-06 um 13:35 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
(2)
This seems wrong to me (i.e. I don't understand it):
\starttypescript [serif]
[adventor,bonum,cursor,heros,pagella,schola,termes]
\definefontsynonym
[\typescriptprefix{n:\typescripttwo}-Regular]
[file:texgyre\typescriptthree\typescriptprefix{f:\typescripttwo}-
regular]
[features=default]
Works for me if I just leave out \typescriptthree !
Here's my working setup, including a PostScript font:
\usetypescriptfile [type-otf2] % with change mentioned above
\usetypescript [schoolbook][uc]
\starttypescript[sans] [urw-grotesk]
% PostScript name / file name (in texmf tree) / instead of an encoding
\definefontsynonym [URWGroteskT-LighNarr] [file:u004242t]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [URWGroteskT-MediNarr] [file:u004244t]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [URWGroteskT-LighNarrObli] [file:u004262t]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [URWGroteskT-MediNarrObli] [file:u004264t]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[sans] [urw-grotesk] %[name]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [URWGroteskT-LighNarr]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic][URWGroteskT-LighNarrObli]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [URWGroteskT-MediNarr]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic][URWGroteskT-MediNarrObli]
\definefontsynonym [SansSlanted] [SansItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldSlanted] [SansBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[fiee] [mix]
\definetypeface [mix] [rm][serif] [schola][default]
%[encoding=
\defaultencoding]
\definetypeface [mix] [ss][sans] [urw-grotesk] [default]
[encoding=uc]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript [fiee][mix]
\setupbodyfont [mix,rm,8pt]
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Re: [NTG-context] OT: discOSsion (was: first steps with XeTeX)
Am 2008-04-06 um 15:28 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz: Debian installs not so good on a PPC Mac and doesn't run my expensive Adobe apps ;-) (And I doubt if Norbert provides Linux PPC binaries...) Debian installs very well on a PPC mac, and Norbert provides PPC binaries (which I compiled for him). Okay, then I'll stay on OSX without any good reason. My previous Mac was dual-boot OS8/9 and Linux (otherwise I wouldn't have been able to use ConTeXt in 1999, it didn't work with OzTeX or CMacTeX), at last with Mac-on-Linux, but I'm glad I got a decent Unix with a good GUI without the need to switch anything ;-) Maybe I'll try Linux with Bootcamp with my next one (somewhen this summer). May it be possible we got a bit off-topic here? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] analyzing type-otf.tex
Am 2008-04-07 um 12:58 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: To Hraban: encoding=uc has *zero* effect. To be honest - I doubt that you will be able to extract any more than (theoretical limit of) 256 glyphs from the Type1 font with XeTeX - character slots and font glyphs are in one-to-one correlation, so I doubt that you can access the glyphs outside of those 256 slots (unless you make tfm map files, but that's probably the reason why one wants to use XeTeX - to get rid of that encoding mess). So: I guess that Latin-1 works, but encoding=uc is ignored anyway. Oh? I thought uc encoding would magically enhance my type1 fonts with full unicode range... ;-) Thanks for the clarification - I wasn't sure if I'd need uc, but since it worked this way, I left it there. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] first steps with XeTeX
Am 2008-04-07 um 00:53 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: Else you need to ask on the XeTeX mailing list. (But indeed: why not trying out LuaTeX?) I'm too lazy to recompile my binaries all the time; my old Mac is rather slow... That's why the minimal distribution (minimals.contextgarden.net) has been created. A single command should update everything. ok, ok, I'll try luaTeX. But not just now. But I installed all necessary fonts for pdfTeX anyway. Lots of them, back in 2004/2005, see my typescripts collection: http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4lang=en Those should work, I guess. Not when called by name, but calling them by filename should be no problem. Yes, seems to work. (see other thread) I guess I'll re-publish my typescripts as soon as I'm actively using luaTeX - and as soon as I relaunch my website on Django (planning that for some months now...) BTW: I'd love to come to the gathering in Slovenija, but I must typeset my main project (a monthly city magazine) at that time. But that's a remote job, right? ;-) (We will have internet connection there :) Unfortunately I can't do it on my own, need help from two colleagues to do it in time. Besides working full-time on that myself. And sending tons of images back and forth through any internet connection is no fun. Besides that - BachoTeX might be interesting to visit as well. Of course. And PostNuke meeting, Django sprint, PyCon, DANTE, EUU Retreats, some courses festivals and a lot more that I can't join this year... Only visiting DRUPA (printing fair). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] analyzing type-otf.tex
2008/4/8, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Oh? I thought uc encoding would magically enhance my type1 fonts with full unicode range... ;-) I almost forgot ... to be honest, I wanted to say: LuaTeX does exactly that, but then I have remembered that you have explicitely asked not to mention any LuaTeX benefits to you any more (at least until next TeX Live comes out) ... :) This is indeed possible with LuaTeX because you could create a virtual font and use any other character from another font with more characters but there is no font with the complete unicode range, unicode support more signs as you could use in one OpenType/TrueType font. Please, don't take me dumber than I am. There's a smiley after my naive remark. It's great if luaTeX can access all available glyphs of a font (and that's really another reason to switch), and I guess it will also continue to combine accents and base characters for undefined glyphs, but of course it can't invent new glyphs. Most good Type1 fonts contain the range of Latin-1 and Mac-Roman, and if I'll be able to access that, it's great. I already started to combine several freeware fonts into OpenType (i.e. if there are e.g. Western, CE and alternate/expert fonts). But I guess that's only one of my few projects that stall until they're needed... Regarding luaTeX: Even if I can just include rsync into my daily update script to stay up-to-date on binaries (thanks for pointing that out!), I get a bad feeling if I see lots of threads on this list that show that luaTeX seems to have still some basic problems... On the other hand when I started using ConTeXt I did it for some features (grid setting!) even though it was a very much moving target. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] analyzing type-otf.tex
Am 2008-04-08 um 13:41 schrieb Hans Hagen: To Hraban: oh, I did not understand you joke at first :-) Now I see what you were trying to say with extending the font to the full unicode range :-) And sure enough - LuaTeX doesn't do that either. Sorry, I should know since a few years that my jokes aren't understandable... ;-) (I tend to joke with my father about details of grammar and constantly quote lyrics of unknown songs...) at some point we can start thinking of defining virtual font collections Would be cool! I'm working occasionally on a songbook that contains a Russian song, and I'd like to print the original text in cyrillic (even if I can hardly read it). I've everything in UTF-8, so it would be great if ConTeXt could change the font automatically or language-dependent. I still didn't try anything with that, though, maybe it's easy - the base font is Century Schoolbook (because that's LilyPond's default font and it works well for a songbook), and if I use XeTeX/luaTeX with TeXGyre Schola, it should just work. (Or don't you think?) Ok, maybe I don't even need virtual font collections... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
Am 2008-04-08 um 16:15 schrieb luigi scarso: What about to put it on the wiki ? How about a list of books (or everything else) made with ConTeXt? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] random Computer Science paper generator
2008/4/9, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ it would be nice to have something in context. Of course, the site says its botches are context-free ;-) Fortunately in my experience TeX conferences have a somewhat higher subscription standard... Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] first steps with XeTeX
2008/4/8, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I guess I'll re-publish my typescripts as soon as I'm actively using luaTeX - and as soon as I relaunch my website on Django (planning that for some months now...) What about Plone ? I only need a lean framework, not an excessive application server. this year... Only visiting DRUPA (printing fair). Maybe I will there too. Let's stay in tune. Probably I'll go 6.-8. june, i.e. most of our printshop team will go together with campers... Further OT discussion better off-list... Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
2008/4/9, Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Andrea Always asked for. But nobody raise a hand...:-) Andrea I would read it eagerly I would even buy it ;) I wouldn't - I've a shelf full of development books but always only use online docs. In this area books simply are too slow. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Streams
Am 2008-04-11 um 11:45 schrieb Roman Sigg: For a publication project in phonetics and dialectology I'd like to print the phonetic transcription and the dialect text in a two column setup. I would be interested to use context for that (more flexibility than LaTeX), but every new paragraph is printed on a new page (as Henning Hraban Ramm posted earlier). Is there a work around other than using two pages? It doesn't seem possible - only if you control page/column breaks manually. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Streams
perhaps the streams module can help you? see streams startting at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Column_Sets Luigi, Bert, you both completely miss that the OP already tried to use streams (see subject!) and can't achieve what he needs, i.e. streams in columns. That's simply not possible to get automatically (i.e. without manual breaking) with today's ConTeXt. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] small caps and old numbers with open type fonts
Am 2008-04-13 um 20:39 schrieb Antoine Junod: I actually use my font as simple as possible with a \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]. Is it the problem? Yes. You should set up your fonts with a typescript and access small caps / oldstyle as features. Sorry, can't help you further at the moment, but there were a lot of mails/threads on similar subjects in the last few weeks. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents
Ahoi!
In a volume of proceedings, each chapter has an author and title and
sometimes a subtitle.
The ToC entry should look like:
Author: Title \hfill Page
(no indents!)
At the moment I've this setup:
---
\def\Titel#1#2#3{% author, title, subtitle
\page%
{\writebetweenlist[chapter]{\placeongrid{\noindent #1:}}
\switchtobodyfont[12pt]\noindent #1%
\chapter{\noindent #2}%
{\ss\bf #3}%
\blank[2*big]}%
}
\setuphead[chapter][page=no, number=no, align=
{flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant}, style={\ss\bfa}, before={},
after={\blank}]
\definecombinedlist[toc][chapter][level=chapter, placehead=no,
criterium=all, alternative=b, offset=none]
\setupcombinedlist [toc] [partnumber=no]
---
Please don't cry, I know it's ugly... ;-)
What it does is close, but nood good enough.
- Is there a way to use the normal chapter (or any head) mechanism
with such feathered titles?
- How do I get my special ToC?
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents
Am 2008-04-14 um 22:26 schrieb luigi scarso:
I've seen in core-lst
% \setuplist
% [section]
% [alternative=MyListItem,
%after=\blank,
%before=\blank]
%
% \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
% {(#1) (#2) (#3)}
Maybe this can help you ?
I guess not - these 3 parameters are AFAIK part no., title and page
no., and it's called automatically for the ToC entry, so I don't
know how I could replace #2 with author: #2
i.e. alternative in \setuplist is only for defining a different
format for the ToC line, not for changing the *content* of it.
Probably I must utilize that, too, but it doesn't solve my problem on
its own.
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents
Am 2008-04-15 um 10:03 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Try this.
\unprotect
\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}
\startsetups chapter:list
\doifsomething{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}
\def\ChapterSubTitle{\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}
\stopsetups
\setupsectionworld
[chapter]
[setups={chapter:list},
author=]
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
{\vbox{#2\crlf\ChapterSubTitle}}
\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax
\protect
\setuphead
[chapter]
[incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand]
\starttext
\completecontent
\startsectionworld[chapter][author=Hans,text=Chapter
One,subtitle=The Beginning]
\startsectionworld[chapter][author=Tom,text=Chapter
Two,subtitle=The End]
\stopsectionworld
\stopsectionworld
\stoptext
Interesting idea, thank you very much!
Never heard about sectionworld before - ConTeXt's sources still
aren't my usual bedtime reading.
I just managed to add outputting the author (not only in the ToC)...
Could you please show me how to set also the header to Author: Title?
BTW: Just added rsyncing luaTeX binaries to my daily update script,
format generation went through, will try more tomorrow...
(Thanks Mojca, Wolfgang, Hans, Taco, Luigi etc. so far!)
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents
I have now:
\unprotect
\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}
\startsetups chapter:list
\doifsomething{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}
\def\ChapterAuthor{{\rm\tf\sectionworldparameter\c!author}}
\def\ChapterTitle{{\ss\bfa\sectionworldparameter\c!text}}
\def\ChapterSubTitle{{\ss\bf\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}}
\stopsetups
\setupsectionworld [chapter]
[setups={chapter:list},
author=]
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
{\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\crlf\ChapterTitle\crlf\ChapterSubTitle}}
\let\ChapterAuthor\relax
\let\ChapterTitle\relax
\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax
\protect
\setuphead [chapter]
[incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand,
page=yes,number=no,
align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant}
]
The result is about:
\rm\tfa Author
\ss\bf Title
\ss\bfa Subtitle
instead of (like I defined):
\rm\tf Author
\ss\bfa Title
\ss\bf SubTitle
Why?
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents
2008/4/16, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Add style=, to \setuphead[chapter] because the default value influence your own settings. I tried that before but the results were not satisfying (it was unclear to me, where it did apply and where not) - I need a different style for the three lines anyway. You should also define a new header for the ToC because it use \title by default and this is also changed with \setuphead[chapter]. ok, will try tonight. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works
2008/4/16, Suno Ano [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You want to pick a font family which has entire support for mathematical glyphs like for example - Computer Modern Roman or That's Latin Modern (LM) nowadays. - Lucida Bright AFAIK there are also math fonts for Palatino (px), Times (tx?), Helvetica (hx? and commercial) and the Euler fonts that work with different serif fonts. And soon (I hope) we'll get math support for the TeXGyre fonts as well. I'd suggest a readable serif as body font, I like e.g. TeXGyre Schola (Century Schoolbook) - it's a bit conservative and ill suited for titling sizes - and perhaps a sans-serif for titlings, e.g. LM Sans or TeXGyre Heros (Helvetica). Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Am 2008-04-17 um 10:13 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). I normally use InDesign for my business letters and invoices. But I coded my last job applications completely in ConTeXt and adapted Holger Schöner's environment for my needs. I remember it was not that easy to get my address and logo exactly in the same places as in my InDesign template - I use sheets with some pre-printed elements. Another problem were different letter heads for first, odd and even pages. (It would have been *much* easier to use InDesign for that stuff, like for most other designs that I do...) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Am 2008-04-17 um 16:32 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: I normally use InDesign for my business letters and invoices. Dou you use a template for your letters. Not an InDesign template file (.idt), but a single document (with master pages) for every purpose (German/Swiss/English, letter/ invoice, private/business) that I overwrite every time. (I save a copy if the matter is important.) LaTeX has two packages to create invoices and we could also have one for ConTeXt but it makes only sense to use it with LuaTeX, TeX's arithmetic to limited for longer calculations. For other purposes I simply write my TeX code with a script, mostly only one file that contains the dynamical data and gets included. E.g. - cover for backup CD/DVDs (that script even has a GUI - it reads a disk; shows the directory tree, so you can select which parts you'd like to be visible; writes a TeX file; calls ConTeXt and opens the PDF) - my address book (pulls and formats data from a MySQL database) - business cards for one big company (I receive an Excel file with personnel data, save it as CSV and convert that to ConTeXt, PDF with one page per person gets imposed and printed on cardboard with pre-printed logo) Another problem were different letter heads for first, odd and even pages. Different header for the first and another one for the following headers is simple and possible with my module. The option to change the layout for odd and even pages is currently not supported but should be possible but it has to be integrated in the normal interface. My sheets have a pre-printed logo, I use the same for all pages of a letter. On the first page I need address and bank data. On even pages (back side) there's no logo, so I don't need the big top border. Normally I leave out the first even page, e.g. my job application starts with an one-side letter, the following data (CV, references etc.) uses front and back page. The application had the additional difficulty that there's the photo on the CV page, and I wanted the title in white *on* the photo... At least in the online PDF - I used modes to produce both printed version (without logo, because that's pre-printed on my sheets) and email version (with logo) (It would have been *much* easier to use InDesign for that stuff, like for most other designs that I do...) This is also possible with ConTeXt because you could setup layers to place content dependent on left and right pages and the page layout could also change for left and right pages as long as you don't change the text width. I used layers and setups, but I had difficulties switching them on and off. And what not - can't remember everything. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] typescript
Am 2008-04-19 um 13:06 schrieb Antoine Junod: \starttypescript[serif][garamondpp] \definefontsynonym [GaramondPP-Roman] [GaramondPremrPro] \definefontsynonym [GaramondPP-Bold] [GaramondPremrPro-Bd] \definefontsynonym [GaramondPP-Italic] [GaramondPremrPro-It] \definefontsynonym [GaramondPP-Bold-Italic][GaramondPremrPro-BdIt] \stoptypescript If I've understood what I did in that part, I've simply defined alias for the font file names. What I do not catch is the \starttypescript line. Is it right to say that the second parameter is the name of the 'class' to which the definitions that follow are linked? Second question on that part: Is the first argument (serif) a reserved keyword or not? What's the point of that argument? Third and last question for that part, in the case, as in here, where the font file names are easy to remember, is it still needed to create that synonyms for any reason? Only answering your third question: You mentioned later other faces of that font, e.g. Medium. You can (and should) map *all* faces in that first typescript if you intend to use them later. (With big families that may be around 50 faces.) Beware, if you write typescripts for XeTeX/luaTeX, you must define if your font name is the screen name (aka PostScript name) or the file name: [file:GaramondPremrPro] vs. [name:Garamond Premier Pro] If you write typescripts for pdfTeX (mkII), you should give a third argument that defines the encodings that the font supports, like: \starttypescript[serif] [urw-antiqua] [ec,texnansi,qx,t5] \definefontsynonym [URWAntiquaT-Regu] [\typescriptthree-u003003t] [encoding=\typescriptthree] The file name is here in fact the name of the tfm file! (I hope I don't tell you something deprecated here...) Then, I wrote the [name] part of the typescript, as the following: \starttypescript[serif][garamondpp][name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [GaramondPP-Roman] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [GaramondPP-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic][GaramondPP-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [SerifItalic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic][GaramondPP-Bold- Italic] \stoptypescript If I caught the point of the last argument, it is here to indicate that what follows links font files to the pre-defined font concept that are Serif, SerifBold, SerifItalic and so on and so on). Here are my questions: I've seen in the sources that there were 7 predefined types in the Serif family: Serif, SerifBold, SerifItalic, SerifSlanted, SerifBoldItalic and SerifBoldSlanted. What if I have a font that not only have a Bold face but also a Medium face and a SemiBold face? Second question: my font do not have a slanted face and I do not want to have pieces of computer modern in the text because, by mistake, I typed an \sl switch or something related. To avoid that, you can see I declared SerifSlanted to be a synonym for SerifItalic. Is it the way to do that or is it better to directly define SerifSlanted as a synonym to GaramondPP-Italic (in my case)? There are some more keywords: SerifOldstyle (numbers only), SerifCaps, SerifBoldCaps You can also define your own variants like this: \definefontvariant [Serif] [shadow] [Shadow] % use with \Var[shadow] If you defined a big family in your first typescript you can use this setup for different four-member sub-families: % serif urw-antiqua (normal) \starttypescript[serif] [urw-antiqua] [name] %\usetypescript [serif] [urw-antiqua] [\defaultencoding] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [URWAntiquaT-Regu] \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [URWAntiquaT-ReguObli] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [URWAntiquaT-ReguObli] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [URWAntiquaT-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [URWAntiquaT-BoldObli] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [URWAntiquaT-BoldObli] \stoptypescript % serif urw-antiqua (normal bold) \starttypescript[serif] [urw-antiqua-bold] [name] \usetypescript [serif] [urw-antiqua] [\defaultencoding] % different name, so you must load it explicitely! % or: % \setups [font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [URWAntiquaT-Medi] \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [URWAntiquaT-MediObli] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [URWAntiquaT-MediObli] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [URWAntiquaT-ExtrBold] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [URWAntiquaT-ExtrBoldObli] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [URWAntiquaT-ExtrBoldObli] \stoptypescript I.e. such a name typescript defines the related faces for the simple style commands (\tf, \bf, \it, \sl etc.) I mostly map slanted and italic to the same italic face. But it's a matter of taste. You can also do it
[NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press
Von: Martin Schröder Datum: 20. April 2008 16:55:12 GMT+02:00 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press Antwort an: German Language TeX Users Group Communication List TEX- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wonderful 60 minutes of the BBC showing Stephen Fry recreating an the original Gutenberg printing process. http://www.fontblog.de/auf-den-spuren-gutenbergs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91smRXrEPRs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0FKWpNTUc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=souzdLjgrzM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIur4eiOR38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNCvgSICbc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWeMK-Q9NMQ Best Martin Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press
Am 2008-04-20 um 23:00 schrieb Keith McKay: I'm not sure if this is available to those of you outside of the UK but here is the link to the BBC iPlayer for the show Unfortunately they block it: http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/download_programmes/outsideuk Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript
Am 2008-04-24 um 13:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Next exercise for me: creation of a new font collection! Could you suggest please, what fonts would fit nicely with garamond, for ss, tt and mm? I suggest palatino (mathpazo?) for math but this would be more a topic for Hraban, you could try to use the luxi mono fonts for typewriter. Sorry, had no time to read mailing lists last week... I seldom use math, so I can't say anything useful about math fonts. Perhaps try Euler, I guess they fit well with a lot of serif fonts. I generally like the LM mono more than any other typewriter font - it's not only a line font like Courier, is well readable, has several faces and looks really nice. I never used URW Garamond, so I can't really advise you on some fitting sans. It depends what you intend to typeset in what face (e.g. only titlings in sans, body text in serif?). It also depends on the subject of your product - novels, science books, lifestyle magazines, product brochures etc. need a different style. Perhaps try if you like Frutiger, Optima (URW Classico), URW Grotesk, Myriad or even Helvetica (TeXGyre Heros). If you need it only for titlings, perhaps you'll like Clearface Gothic, FF Unit, Benguiat Gothic... It's really a matter of taste. (Most of the mentioned fonts are commercial, of course.) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Comments and marks in PDF
Am 2008-04-26 um 12:14 schrieb Oleg Kolosov: Adobe Acrobat Reader have special feature, called 'review'. So people can leave marks or comments in PDF file and save them. But AFAIK this can only be done with PDF files generated by Adobe Acrobat Pro. Is there any way to do something similar with files generated by ConTeXt? Basically, I need to pass my work through review process and people often request to add marks directly in files the are looking at. As they are using Adobe's reader exclusively, it would be great to use it's built-in features. You mean Adobe Reader extensions (ARE). You can only enable these with Acrobat Professional (version 7+), independend of the source of the PDF. Reader extensions are a well-kept secret of Adobe, but there are unexpensive PDF editors that can add notes, e.g.: - Multivalent, http://multivalent.sourceforge.net/ (beware: uses its own annotations not PDF ones, but may fit your workflow) - Jaws PDF Editor, http://www.jawspdf.com (not free) - Foxit Reader, http://www.foxitsoftware.com (not free, Windows only) - PDF Xchange Viewer, http://www.docu-track.com/home/prod_user/PDF- XChange_Tools/pdfx_viewer (free?, Windows only) ...and just google yourself. Oh, I just found this Windows tool that claims to enable ARE (no Windows here, can't try): http://sourceforge.net/projects/arenable/ I guess it's somewhat illegal... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces (was: chapter setup / table of contents)
Coming back to my old thread.
Here's my latest chapter setup:
--- 8 ---
\unprotect
\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}
\startsetups chapter:list
\def\\{{\ \nomarking{\nolist\crlf}}}
\doiftextelse{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}
\def\ChapterAuthor{%
\doiftextelse%
{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}%
{\rm\tf\sectionworldparameter\c!author\crlf\vskip0.2em}
{}%
}
\def\ChapterTitle{{\ss\bfb\sectionworldparameter\c!text}}
\def\ChapterSubTitle{%
\doiftextelse%
{\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}%
{\crlf\vskip0.3em\ss\bf\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}%
{}%
}
\stopsetups
\setupsectionworld
[chapter]
[setups={chapter:list},
author=]
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
{\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle\ChapterSubTitle}}
\let\ChapterAuthor\relax
\let\ChapterTitle\relax
\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax
\protect
\setupmarking[chapter][limittext={}]
\def\nocr{{\ \nomarking{\nolist\crlf}}}
\starttext
\startsectionworld[chapter][author=B. Rüssel, title=Consequences of
the Brussels Declaration\\for German cultural politics]
\input tufte
\stopsectionworld
\stoptext
--- 8 ---
My problem is now, that in titles the space after a dot and after \\
(or \nocr) gets eaten, the above example becomes in ToC:
B.Rüssel: Consequences of the Brussels Declarationfor German cultural
politics
What's wrong? (Two different problems, I guess.)
(I use XeTeX with latest ConTeXt)
For I must send my book to the printer, I fixed it with inserting \
. But I'd appreciate a real solution.
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Re: [NTG-context] minimal example for Cyrillic
Am 2008-04-28 um 09:16 schrieb Gour: I was able to persuade one user to prepare ConTeXt package for NixOS distro, but, unfortunately, being from Russia he quickly discovered that he minimal example from wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Russian) does not work, i.e. \enableregime[utf] \useencoding[cyr] \definetypeface [russian] [rm] [serif] [computer-modern] [default] [encoding=t2a] \setupbodyfont[russian] \starttext Мама и Папа % Some Russian characters \stoptext does transliterate Russian characters. I do not have any experience working with Cyrillic, so if anyone can provide minimal working example it would be very nice? I persistently claimed that it must work! :-) Since I just adapted a ConTeXt based business card generator to work with cyrillic type, I can assure that it's possible - with XeTeX or LuaTeX. There you just need to encode your sources in UTF-8 and use OpenType fonts that contain cyrillic glyphs, like TeX Gyre. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces
Am 2008-04-28 um 11:45 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
I don't know who eats you spaces, but I assume you could do
The period after B in the author filed eats the space, I tried
the example
with B Rüssel and the space is in the output.
Of course, every normal inter-word space is kept; that's why I wrote
that in titles the space after a dot ... gets eaten. (Ok, it's a
full stop, maybe not a dot?)
I consider this a very strange bug, can't avoid punctuation in titles.
\def\\{\nomarking{\unskip\nolist\crlf}}
together with
\startsectionworld[chapter][author=B. Rüssel, title=Consequences of
the Brussels Declaration \\for German cultural politics]
Thank you, Taco!
\unskip really seems to be what I was looking for.
\nocr was a meaningless duplication of \\, and I should have thought
of a space before that.
\setuphead[chapter][incrementnumber=no]
I had that already. And I don't see how that would influence
typesetting of punctuation or spaces?
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Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces
Am 2008-04-29 um 09:05 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
that in titles the space after a dot ... gets eaten. (Ok, it's a
full stop, maybe not a dot?)
I consider this a very strange bug, can't avoid punctuation in
titles.
Enclosing the period in braces {.} did work and is a temprorary
solution
but the problem need to be solved.
Another temporary solution (that I used) was \ or \, after each
dot.
\setuphead[chapter][incrementnumber=no]
I had that already. And I don't see how that would influence
typesetting of punctuation or spaces?
I inserted it to get a space for \\ in the table of content, I
wasn't related
to the space after punctuation but to the header content. Just
related to
the minimum example.
Ah, ok, sorry. I didn't really test my minimal.
Even if the book is at the printshop now, I'd like to solve the
problem for the next time - I need that author/title/subtitle and
author in ToC stuff all the time.
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Re: [NTG-context] Table of contents customization
Am 2008-04-29 um 13:27 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
\setuplist
[chapter,section,...]
[numbercommand=\DotAfterNumber]
\def\DotAfterNumber#1{\doiftext{#1}{#1.}}
Just wikified that:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table_of_Contents
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize numbering
Am 2008-04-29 um 17:49 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: I just tried the following on Context Live: \starttext \startitemize[n] \item one \item two \startitemize \item a \item b \stopitemize \item three \stopitemize \stoptext and the first itemize starts at 0. Remove the inner itemize and it starts at 1. Is this a feature or a bug? How do I get around it? I can confirm that here. This is indeed a bug. I reported some weeks ago that numbering starts always at 0 with --once I guess Hans Co went after the dictum of Dijkstra[0], as quoted recently by Knuth[1], that counting should start at 0 ;-) [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsger_W._Dijkstra [1] http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1193856 Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros
Am 2008-04-30 um 12:52 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...) Can we share a link , or licences problems may arise ? Google for PowerPoint Viewer 2007. Quoting Microsoft's download page: Font Components You may use the fonts that accompany the PowerPoint Viewer only to display and print content from a device running a Microsoft Windows operating system. Additionally, you may do the following: Embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding restrictions in the fonts When printing content, temporarily download the fonts to a printer or other output device You may not copy, install or use the fonts on other devices. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces
Am 2008-04-30 um 14:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: can you send me a example with the setups, I will try to find a solution in the next days. The setups are here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style I can send you the whole project off-list if you like. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] headers and pagenumbering
Hello again,
just trying to understand some remaining issues with my latest project.
--- startcode ---
\starttext
% Setups
\setuppagenumbering[
alternative=doublesided,
location={header,right},
strut=yes, state=stop]
% chapter title in the header,
% but not on first page of chapter
% pagina also in the header, always
\setupheader[text][state=stop]
\setupheadertexts[text][chapter][pagenumber]
\setuphead[chapter][header=high]
% Content
% some firstmatter stuff left out
\setuppagenumbering[state=start]
% table of contents
% without header, without pagina
% but page numbering starts here
{
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\title{Inhalt}
\placecontent
\page
}
%\page % too late!
\setupheader[text][state=start]
\chapter{10 \times\ Tufte}
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte}
\stoptext
--- stopcode ---
(1) % or 0? ;-)
I struggled how to leave out the pagina on the ToC page, no setups
seemed to work.
I just reckognized that I need the \page inside of the braced area.
(2)
How can I leave out the chapter header on the first page of a
chapter, but keep the page number? (Probably simple?)
(3)
One can hide the page number with location=, but the header on
the first page of a chapter with header=high. Is there any logic
behind that?
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros
Am 2008-04-30 um 19:22 schrieb luigi scarso: Ah yes, at my printing company 1) pfb/pfa : good fonts ( not easy to install in luatex ) 2) otf : good fonts ( easy to install ) 3) ttf : bad fonts ( easy to install ) Of course it's not exactly true (but maybe on average): a mental habitat, I must admit it, based on experience. Also, an helvetica like typeface is a must. In the old times some PS Level2 RIPs couldn't handle Truetype fonts. And most bad fonts are Truetype. But in fact the format tells nothing about quality or printability. OpenType fonts can contain Truetype-based outlines as well as PostScript-based (quadratic vs. cubic curves). Usually .otf files contain PostScript-based outlines, while .ttf can mean old Truetype as well as TrueType-based OpenType. I.e. the TrueType format can encode its slots in Unicode (obligatory for OpenType) or in any other encoding. I have just uploaded a new version to the garden. good. Greek is really difficult for me Yes, it's Greek to everyone ;-) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] headers and pagenumbering
Am 2008-05-03 um 07:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
(1) % or 0? ;-)
I struggled how to leave out the pagina on the ToC page, no setups
seemed to work.
I just reckognized that I need the \page inside of the braced area.
I will use a simple example ti explain where you need to insert a
pagebreak to get the desired output.
Yes, I got it now, hoepfully, thank you!
!!
\setupheader disables it only on the current page, it is a local
value.
!!
I didn't understand how \setupheader works - now it's clear that
\setupheader[chapter] affects only the first page of the chapter and
\setupheader[text] affects the rest.
But if I add header=high to my \setupheader[chapter], my last
component=chapter in bodymatter (only one page) breaks with:
%%%
systems : end file c_14_kirchen at line 54
structure : end of sectionblock bodymatter
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again
\currentsectionworldname
argument \??ko \currentsectionworldname
\c!header
\getvalue #1-\csname #1
\endcsname
\doifelselayoutsomeline ... #1\c!state \endcsname
}\ifx \!!stringa
\v!none \...
\calculatereducedvsizes ...youtsomeline \v!header
{\advance
\textheight -\di...
\gettextboxes ...complain \calculatereducedvsizes
\swapmargins
\offinterline...
...
l.56 \stopbodymatter
%%%
If I comment out this last component or move it in front of the
second-last, everything is well. The file itself contains no errors
(at least I couldn't find any).
Don't know how to get a failing minimal for such a problem...
Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Am 2008-05-30 um 14:31 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the internationalization of InDesign is better. Can you give a precise list of the features contained in InDesign that are missing in (lua)TeX or which TeX does not support well? - much faster (i.e. I don't need to wait for several TeX runs e.g. if I need to check if some tweak fixed my page breaking) - optical (vs. metrical) kerning - a GUI ;-) and thus layout by let's try how it looks - layout definition (I struggle with ConTeXt's \setuplayout every time) - better page breaking constraints (you can define in your style sheets keep n lines together and keep this together with the next paragraph) - PDF/X output - color profile conversions - image processing features like crop paths, feathered edges, drop shadow (in ConTeXt I need to prepare such in Photoshop in the right size - but I guess it would be possible to write a module that uses ImageMagick to achieve something similar) Problems in TeX *and* InDesign: - Unicode handling (composed and decomposed UTF-8 with or without BOM, UTF-16, different line endings) Working with InDesign as a developer I know that TeX's documentation is far better. Adobe's developer docs (e.g. on API, XML format, InDesign tagged text) are incomplete and errorneous. I don't think you can call the one or other better or more advanced, it's just a different approach, and I choose the right tool for every project. (I.e. I only use TeX if I need the same content in different versions, if I can automate something or for books.) But the layout applications like InDesign (there's still also ugly old QuarkXPress, coming-of-age Scribus and some others) have learned a lot of the former domains of TeX, like registers and toc generation. There are still some areas where you need a programmable system, even trivia like chapter dependant running titles (in ConTeXt: headertexts). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Am 2008-05-31 um 04:20 schrieb luigi scarso: There are still some areas where you need a programmable system, even trivia like chapter dependant running titles (in ConTeXt: headertexts). Isn't indesign programmable too ? I know people who use it in an automatic workflow for db publishing You can use JavaScript or COM (on Windows) or AppleScript (also Python/ Ruby appscript) on OSX. Been there, done that. And I use XML for partly automatic typesetting (mostly for event calendars of magazines) - but InDesign's XML processing is very slow and very picky about the encoding (at least CS2 on OSX). Even more picky with InDesign tagged text files. But what I meant was: let the running title depend on the chapter title or the like - that's easy with TeX, but I know no automatable way in InDesign. Last night I remembered two more things that TeX can't do, but every layout app can: - text flow around other elements (images) - really working multiple-column layout Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
Am 2008-06-12 um 11:00 schrieb Andrea Valle: The fact IMHO is that there's a potentially large base of ConTeXt users which are willing to learn the syntax but are scared about terminals, setting paths etc (well, me too: knowing substantially nothing of unix I'm never comfortable with unix aspects of my system) So, an installer is really welcome. If if you got it installed, you next will need a GUI for running ConTeXt, and if some problem arises, you are further away from the solution than ever. :-( Sorry, you can't use TeX in a decent way if you can't use a shell (AKA command line AKA Terminal AKA DOS box). Otherwise we get a system where everything is configured under the hood by some administrator - and you are in really bad luck if you happen to be your own newborn administrator and read everywhere if you don't know what to fill in here, go ask your administrator. Please everyone try to become computer literate! (see also works by Friedrich Kittler) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Am 2008-06-12 um 20:26 schrieb Maurí cio: The reason for a standard tag language is that the main engine should be able to do some operations on data, like breaking it in pieces like words, paragraphs or staffs on music scores, sometimes without fully understanding what exactly those are. Possible outcomes: with a proper script language (Lua?), things like tables, multi-column text, and even a lot of crazy ideas could be really easy to write. Plug-ins results would be predictable, since they know nothing about the world except what the main engine has informed them. As far as I can judge, music typesetting has completely different rules than text typesetting. Ok, you would just use another plugin. But then the plugins need a way to interact: captions in graphics (like in MetaPost today), lyrics in music etc. I myself wouldn't probably able to handle a MetaPost based system (or something similar) - even if I speak a bit of PostScript, I just don't think of graphics as formulae: To create e.g. an eye-shape, I can place two circles in Illustrator (or any other GUI program) and make an intersection. But I couldn't do the same programmatically, even if I approximately know what to do in this case. (You could answer to my mail on command lines, I should please try to become mathematically literate.) However, you need different parsers for different types of content - and at least the LilyPond folks would strongly suggest that some Lisp dialect is the right language for anything that needs parsing. I guess you know the quote that everyone who writes a parser will end re- creating a buggy subset of Lisp. (I don't speak Lisp. I don't speak TeX-the-language or Lua as well. But the latter seems easy.) I guess that's a inconvenience with TeX/MetaPost/LilyPond: they use similar, but different tagging, and those don't mix very well, esp. LilyPond with its Scheme snippets (I don't appreciate the use of single ' for strings and # for constants...). (Similar to HTML/PHP/ Smarty/JavaScript.) Of course you could use the same kind of tagging for all the different types of content - I guess you will end with something like OpenDocument (OOo.XML), that uses SVG for the graphics. Oh, and don't forget MathML (and the other XML dialects like PhysML and ChemML). Hm, perhaps we should embed MusicXML instead of LilyPond... You see: There is your unified system. XML rulez - for better or for worse. It's really no fun to write XML by hand. Perhaps you should try to help enhancing OpenOffice's typesetting? # Or Scribus? I heard Scribus has TeX boxes of late: A GUI DTP application where some boxes get rendered by LaTeX (meant for formulae, of course). AFAIK Scribus' file format is also XML-based. And maybe they even support plugins for more different boxes... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
Am 2008-06-13 um 19:08 schrieb Andrea Valle: Sorry, you can't use TeX in a decent way if you can't use a shell (AKA command line AKA Terminal AKA DOS box). That's not true. Installing mactex doesn't require you to use terminal. It comes with TeXShop. Works out of the box. That was my first =20 ConTeXt experience. Positive. Then I went into some memory problems with MetaPost, then I had to =20 modify some sources (thanks to Mojca) to work with XeTeX. Really a boring experience. Please don't tell me that the tree =20 structure of the TeX distro is easy to understand and traverse. You're right, the TeX tree is more of a shrubbery. And I don't say Ni ;-) For directory trees I really like the Finder in columns mode - and it's great that you can just drag a file or folder to the Terminal to get its path inserted. I stopped using TeXshop and iTeXMac (not a positive experience some years ago), because I often need to call ConTeXt (i.e. texexec) with different arguments, and that's overly complicated with GUI tools. And I found the (La)TeX integration more annoying than helpful for ConTeXt. iTeXMac's project files (app-like directories) are annoying as well. I do most of my development in Eclipse or TextWrangler, but always with a Terminal or three. I use a simple shell script for every project, that runs the main file with appropriate arguments, opens the resulting PDF (with LilyPond also the MIDI) and cleans the temp files afterwards. Even with GUI layout projects I normally have a Terminal open - e.g. for quick (batch) renaming (renaming is one of the few really annoying mis-features of MacOS X - YES I REALLY WANT TO CHANGE THE EXTENSION AND I KNOW WHAT I DO, DAMNED!). You see, I'm not a shell dogmatist - I normally use vi only on remote servers, and I don't run EmacsOS - but I work much more efficiently if I can use a decent shell. (sh on AIX or CMD.EXE on Win2k is not a decent shell...) Please everyone try to become computer literate! (see also works by Friedrich Kittler) I agree with you. But it depends on what computer literate means. ... I'm teaching them SuperCollider and Nodebox. Ok, I don't get those ;-) I'd like to teach =20 ConTeXt focusing in computational typography, not into unix file =20 system (even if it can be very relevant). Note also that from the previous posts I still have not exactly =20 understood what I have to do to install Luatex (the famous minimals), =20= and it seems that many people are confused like me on using system =20 fonts. I'm scared of tweaking my actual XeConTeXt distro because to install =20 it has been a pain. I know the pain. It was always a hassle to get ConTeXt working with teTeX, even with gwTeX or MacTeX. (I never got it working with CMacTeX, but that was a previous chapter.) The minimals solved it for me. As soon as I had understood how to use first-setup and setuptex. Now I start setuptex in my .profile, so that every new Terminal is pre- configured. (You can also use .bashrc or .bash_profile) And I run first-setup for updates regularly as a cron job, together with some other update scripts. I still feel a bit uncomfortable with systems fonts, too: I activate fonts with FontExplorer as I need them, so ConTeXt normally can't find my fonts. We should try to write a XeTeX/LuaTeX-plugin for FontExplorer... Before I had installed a lot of fonts in my personal texmf tree (where they don't eat my RAM), many of them I've only as PFB and can't use them as system fonts on OSX. Besides that, a lot of system fonts aren't available for ConTeXt (fontconfig problems, I guess). If I would use ConTeXt more often, I would have figured that out, I guess... --Apple-Mail-101-993969544 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oops, since when decided my Apple Mail to send MIME/HTML mails?? It mustn't do that... Bad program, BAAAD program! Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
Am 2008-06-13 um 20:26 schrieb Matthias Weber: Even with GUI layout projects I normally have a Terminal open - e.g. for quick (batch) renaming (renaming is one of the few really annoying mis-features of MacOS X - YES I REALLY WANT TO CHANGE THE EXTENSION AND I KNOW WHAT I DO, DAMNED!). Change your finder preferences for this one. That's about as hard as setting a path variable. I changed it already on my new home mac (running Leopard); but there's no preference on previous versions (i.e. at work and on my ibook). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
