Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-23 Thread Walt
On 4/22/2013 6:18 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I had a series of

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Walt
@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:50 AM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA From: Rick Womer Gas stations?? Dunkin Donuts??? Ummm, John... You need to have somebody make you some ~good~ coffee someday. Rick I started drinking coffee while I was in the Army. I don't want

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I agree about the burr grinder. An old room mate had one and they do a much better job than the blade grinder like I use. They're expensive, though. FYI: when I finally tire of repeatedly repairing my

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread John Sessoms
I don't think my Mr Coffee has any moving parts other than the on/off switch. Is that Melitta a little white plastic cone kind of thingy that sits on top of a cup? I've got one of those that uses the #2 filters. The coffee is good, but it's not as convenient as the Mr Coffee because I can't

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread John Sessoms
My 4 cup Mr Coffee delivers a full mug plus enough to top the mug off once it's two thirds empty. According to Wikipedia, the standard coffee cup is the French tasse à café, which holds 4 ounces of liquid. From: Paul Stenquist Coffee pot capacity ratings are very optimistic. A ten cup Mr.

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Coffee is a religion in Italy. There is an ideal temperature for brewing coffee; too cool results in a bland taste, while too hot will introduce too much acid and bitterness. Most Italian coffee shops and good restaurants know what the proper temperature should be, and they will not brew it

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
I could not tell it better and, of course, I second that. Dario (from Italy) -Messaggio originale- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA Coffee is a religion in Italy

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bob W
On 22 Apr 2013, at 16:38, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I agree about the burr grinder. An old room mate had one and they do a much better job than the blade grinder like I use. They're

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bob W
On 22 Apr 2013, at 18:12, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Coffee is a religion in Italy. There is an ideal temperature for brewing coffee; too cool results in a bland taste, while too hot will introduce too much acid and bitterness. Most Italian coffee shops and good

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: which shall remain nameless, but it's an anagram of Stuck Bras LOL !! I have never witnessed a coffee ceremony, other than watching an Italian barista at work, but I have participated in several Japanese tea ceremonies. I loved

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I had a series of job interviews with a well-known coffee chain, which shall remain nameless, but it's an anagram of Stuck Bras, and each one started with a coffee ritual. They drew fresh water, boiled it and let it cool for

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I had a series of job interviews with a well-known coffee chain, which shall remain nameless, but it's an anagram of Stuck Bras, and each one started with a

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-22 9:38 Bruce Walker wrote Yeah, I know. It bugs me too, but with presses there's close to zero choice. :-( Aeropress is made in USA; i put away my French press and my cheap espresso machine permanently when i bought an Aeropress -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I had a series of job interviews with a well-known coffee chain, which shall remain nameless, but it's an

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-21 23:48 Bipin Gupta wrote Hello Steve, as I mentioned earlier, my wife and me were on a Thomas Cook (3) weeks package tour of Western Europe including Britain and Spain. Almost every where we got luke warm coffee. When we asked for piping hot coffee, the girls would just smile and

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bill
Can anyone tell me why I can no longer get Ethiopian Harar coffee beans? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Ethiopian Harar coffee beans? http://www.amazon.com/Ethiopian-Harrar-Coffee-Unroasted-pounds/dp/B00BAUHWD2 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bob W
On 22 Apr 2013, at 20:48, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I had a series of job interviews with a well-known coffee chain, which shall remain nameless, but it's an anagram of Stuck Bras, and each one started with a

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bob W
On 22 Apr 2013, at 23:08, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone tell me why I can no longer get Ethiopian Harar coffee beans? bill. No idea, but I've been to Harar, and it's a fantastic place. Famed not just for its coffee but also for its qat, for Rimbaud and for Burton. B --

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread John Coyle
coffee made in a plunger (aka French press) though - first cup due in half-an-hour! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:24 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Coffee

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Stan Halpin
On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I had a series of job interviews with a well-known coffee

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: I'd never heard of a 'French Press' so I Googled it to find out what this wondrous, exotic machine looked like. I found it's what I use to make coffee every day. In Australia we just call them 'plungers' By the

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bruce Walker
I believe I'm drinking some right now. Purchased at Longos, a local family-owned grocery chain here in the Toronto area. Good stuff too. But no, I can't explain your shortage. On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone tell me why I can no longer get

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Gerrit Visser
Is that FF in M42 or FF in K mount? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: April 22, 2013 7:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Brian Walters

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bill
On 22/04/2013 6:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I believe I'm drinking some right now. Purchased at Longos, a local family-owned grocery chain here in the Toronto area. Good stuff too. But no, I can't explain your shortage. I've talked to half a dozen merchants here. All of them are saying it's

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Rick Womer
Just finished a bag of some from a Philly roaster last week. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bill
On 22/04/2013 7:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Just finished a bag of some from a Philly roaster last week. Harumph. Amazon's shipping makes it prohibitively expensive to buy. My coffee peddler tells me that I should try Mocha-Java. we'll see. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 22, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/04/2013 7:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Just finished a bag of some from a Philly roaster last week. Harumph. Amazon's shipping makes it prohibitively expensive to buy. My coffee peddler tells me that I should try

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 08:12:35PM -0600, Bill wrote: On 22/04/2013 7:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Just finished a bag of some from a Philly roaster last week. Harumph. Amazon's shipping makes it prohibitively expensive to buy. My coffee peddler tells me that I should try Mocha-Java. Your

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bill
On 22/04/2013 8:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I like Mocha Java. But the very accessible Columbian Supremo is a good choice as well. Very nice in a French press. The Colombian is one half of the blend I do. It is a very nice coffee on it's own, but if you are into blending, do try it with half

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Bill
On 22/04/2013 8:47 PM, John Francis wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 08:12:35PM -0600, Bill wrote: On 22/04/2013 7:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Just finished a bag of some from a Philly roaster last week. Harumph. Amazon's shipping makes it prohibitively expensive to buy. My coffee peddler tells

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-22 Thread Subash Jeyan
originale- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA Coffee is a religion in Italy. There is an ideal temperature for brewing coffee; too cool results in a bland taste, while too hot

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Alastair Robertson
don't get a americano - it'll be one shot with half a litre of scalding hot water on top. Better to ask for two double espressos plus one cup 1/4 filled with hot water and another with steamed milk. Then pour the espressos carefully into each cup- it will be a little bit like a long black and a

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Gerrit Visser
Of Alastair Robertson Sent: April 21, 2013 3:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA don't get a americano - it'll be one shot with half a litre of scalding hot water on top. Better to ask for two double espressos plus one cup 1/4 filled with hot water

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Rick Womer
Gas stations?? Dunkin Donuts??? Ummm, John... You need to have somebody make you some ~good~ coffee someday. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:59 AM Subject: OT -

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread P.J. Alling
On 4/21/2013 1:59 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Brian Walters G'day all On my forthcoming trip to the USA I'm just going to *have* to find good coffee. In Australia, when my wife and I go to a coffee shop, I order a 'long black' and she has a 'flat white'. I'm fairly sure that I would get

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rick Womer Gas stations?? Dunkin Donuts??? Ummm, John... You need to have somebody make you some ~good~ coffee someday. Rick I started drinking coffee while I was in the Army. I don't want coffee flavored drinks. The only thing I add to my coffee is coffee. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-20 17:43 Brian Walters wrote On my forthcoming trip to the USA I'm just going to *have* to find good coffee. you will find it, but it may be work; when i travel i often have to do some research, though recently in Brooklyn coffee seemed very well appreciated In Australia, when

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Rick Womer
I drink nothing but black coffee myself. So as I said Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:50 AM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA From: Rick Womer

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-21 12:27 Bipin Gupta wrote PS: While in Europe don't drink coffee. Luke warm water is better. i'm not especially experienced with Europe, but it seems harsh to dismiss the coffee of an entire continent; i've had excellent espresso (straight) in Amsterdam and Paris speaking of

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Gerrit Visser
Saffron adds a lovely twist to coffee as well. Recently learned that from a spice shop owner in Dubai. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley Sent: April 21, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Coffee

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Rick Womer
I grind my own, and have some cardamom... gotta try that! Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
Brian: Beware that the roasts that are typically used for espresso and derivatives is very different from that in Europe, and I'd say from what I had in Sidney (although, probably to a lesser extent). After trips to France or Italy, for some 2-4 weeks, I couldn't drink esperesso back in the US.

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Gerrit Visser
- Coffee terminology in the USA Brian: Beware that the roasts that are typically used for espresso and derivatives is very different from that in Europe, and I'd say from what I had in Sidney (although, probably to a lesser extent). After trips to France or Italy, for some 2-4 weeks, I couldn't

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
The same coffee beans are available all over the world. Beans from Africa, India, South America and various other places. You can buy them here in the U.S. and in Europe. I've had expresso in Italy, France, New York. LA, Chicago, and Detroit. I've found that it varies most by who makes it

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-21 12:58 Igor Roshchin wrote Beware that the roasts that are typically used for espresso and derivatives is very different from that in Europe, and I'd say from what I had in Sidney (although, probably to a lesser extent). what specifically is different and where? there are many

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I used to store coffee beans in the freezer. I was then told by one who purports to be an expert that freezing the roasted beans is bad and that they should be stored in an airtight container in the fridge. I have been doing so ever since. I can't say I noticed any difference in taste... In

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Fifty cups?!? What, are you living in a breakaway Mormon polygamy commune? 50 cups? ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: April 21, 2013 4/21/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA The same coffee beans are available all over the world. Beans from Africa, India, South America and various other places. You can buy them here in the U.S. and in Europe. I've had expresso in Italy

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread John Coyle
Have to disagree with you, Bipin, on coffee in Europe. After many visits to France, where 'un café' was my drink of choice, and in Italy in 2011 ('un espresso' or 'un picolo') I found excellent coffee everywhere (except at Charles de Gaulle airport at two in the morning - bitter and weak). I

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Much of the complex coffee flavour come from the oils in the beans and these are adversely affected by freezing. I no longer freeze or even refrigerate coffee. I've found that the best thing to do is buy whole roasted beans weekly and grind just what I need in a burr grinder right before use. I

RE: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Gerrit Visser
Of Bruce Walker Sent: April 21, 2013 9:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA Much of the complex coffee flavour come from the oils in the beans and these are adversely affected by freezing. I no longer freeze or even refrigerate coffee. I've found

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Bipin, the coffee in Italy is the best in the world, bar none. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello David, my wife and me had a Hell of a Coffee time in our (3) week trip to Europe. By Hell we

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
and it's more entertaining to watch than TV. cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: April 21, 2013 4/21/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA Much of the complex coffee flavour come from

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
but black coffee myself. So as I said Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:50 AM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA From: Rick Womer Gas stations

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Rick Womer
condensing that screws up the flavor. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:02 PM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA Much of the complex

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Rick Womer
It spills over into the next day unless you coat your driveway with it after dinner... - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA Coffee pot capacity ratings are very optimistic. A ten cup Mr. Coffee is good for about three mugs worth. So a fifty cup rating is actually about 15

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
the flavor. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:02 PM Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA Much of the complex coffee flavour

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread steve harley
on 2013-04-21 18:42 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote I used to store coffee beans in the freezer. I was then told by one who purports to be an expert that freezing the roasted beans is bad and that they should be stored in an airtight container in the fridge. i have read a few screeds against

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-21 Thread David Mann
On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: Latte is similar to flat white (we drink those when in NZ) or kafe leche in Spain. Funny... you can order a latte or a flat white here. Don't ask me what the difference is as I'm not a coffee drinker. Cheers, Dave --

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-20 Thread Darren Addy
The flat white would be called a latte here in the U.S. Your long black is interesting, because it is similar to the U.S. Americano except the assembly instructions are reversed. Your way preserves the crema (which I think is a Good Thing). My daughter manages a high end espresso shop here, so

Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA

2013-04-20 Thread David Savage
On 21 April 2013 07:43, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all On my forthcoming trip to the USA I'm just going to *have* to find good coffee. Good luck with that. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to