edge towards the latter because the former is simple enough to
reproduce (just explicitly say Csort keys %hash) and its use is
mostly when you want to iterate over the keys of a sorted hash, which
would largely be eliminated if your proposal returned a 'sorted' hash.
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 10:22:17PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
Michael G Schwern writes:
I was expecting those two crufty features to be removed. If they
aren't, a third won't hurt.
Might want to add this assumption to the RFC. Or perhaps another RFC
to junk reset()'s current meaning
oo 42
bar 13
The idea of interpolating a hash is cool... but is seperating each
pair by $/ really useful? A comma or $" sees to make more sense.
Could you show some examples of practical usage?
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assume that by the time users start writing programs with numbers
2**31 they'll have read that far.
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n to muddle the perl core with test
switches, it can be done easier as a module.
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BOFH excuse #39:
terrorist activities
m. You're probably thinking of individual programs.
$ pod2tests --inplace foo.pl
foo.pl.ok
Something like that would make sense.
Eliminating redundancy is one thing, eliminating TMTOWTDI is another.
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Case-sensitive vs insensitive filesystems, maximum
filename length, maximum path length, restrictions on the filename,
restrictions on the suffix (ie. 8.3 DOS).
Maybe we should just go back to paper.
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On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 08:59:10PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote:
This RFC proposes a new pseudoclass named CNEXT.
This pseudoclass would provide a way of correctly redispatching a method
or an autoloaded method.
Yay!
I have nothing constructive to say. (Yay!)
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.
Also, its not entirely clear why method chaining is desired only for
constructor and destructors. What about every other method?
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BOFH excuse
oned Class::Classless. Does any other language or system
implement deligations?
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Long, long time ago, in a far away galaxy, cells were for
e as being tied to a
given class at compile time, similar to the my Dog $spot syntax ick.
Again, I think the issue of translation is a red herring. I believe
the problem to lie elsewhere. Ask on p5p and try compiling perl5 with
gprof to see where the problem is.
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more work than the simple method aliasing
for the OO/tie hybrid. And in the case of locking a key in a hash,
you can't do it because lock() will receive the value.
If the code is intended to be run *only* on tied variables, then you
could have just used a plain object and dropped the sugar.
--
. The dangling untie() will
happen less frequently, and you can customize the hell out of your
tied class. But you're trading those problems for a new set of
ambiguities!
PS Your reply to Fowler hasn't hit the archives yet, so I'll hold off on
jumping on his points until then.
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*can* currently be inherited.
package Tie;
sub TIESCALAR { print "Tie::TIESCALAR\n" }
package Foo;
@ISA = qw(Tie);
package Bar;
tie $thingy, "Foo"'
Calls Tie::TIESCALAR, as expected.
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different than what was expected. The problem is that
Matrix::add() and Some::Module::add() are related by name *only* and
are not interchangable.
The danger is of methods unintentionally being called in place of
unrelated functions.
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=head1 TITLE
Interpolation of method calls
=head1 VERSION
Maintainer: Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Sep 2000
Version:1
Mailing List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=head1 ABSTRACT
Method calls should interpolate in double-quoted strings, and similar
locations
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 02:19:38PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
package Dog;
use fields qw(this night up);
my Dog $ph = [];
$ph-{this} = "that";
That works? I thought you had to do:
my Dog $self = fields
ariable method
calls. That is:
my $meth = 'species';
print "How much is that $pet-$meth() in the window?";
This should deparse to:
my $meth = 'species';
print "How much is that ".$pet-$meth()." in the window?";
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to have a new version of the RFC ready without the first even
having made it out to the public!
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Many people think that an UFO is probably
, my font doesn't even display them right.
*grumble*
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BOFH excuse #270:
Someone has messed up the kernel pointers
toaccessor = @{[@stuff]};
If we make it copy the value of @stuff first (like $r-autoaccessor =
[@stuff] currently does) then this all encourages inefficiencies.
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sure I understand ("autoderef bad, but forced
copy bad too") but want to make 100% sure.
That's about it. *grunt*
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Plus I reme
);
bless $inner = $class.'::db';
}
It works, but to quote Tim Bunce there... *sigh*.
So anyhow, yes, this is a big, icky problem.
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On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:48:27AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nope. fields::new() basically just does Cbless
[\%{"$class\::FIELDS"}], $class, but the current pseudohash
implementation doesn't care if something is an object or not
t; already works fine and
the world spins on.
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But why? It's such a well designed cesspool of C++ code. Why wouldn't
you want to ha
h has some other restrictions?
Read RFC 241 for a brief overview of pseudo-hash problems.
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Sometimes these hairstyles are exaggerated beyon
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 01:26:45PM -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Similar mistaken logic leads to "globals are faster than lexicals".
Maybe so, but I'd think lexicals would be faster, because more of
the lookup is done at compile time rather than runtime
);
$meth_ref-();
is equivalent to this..
$obj-foo(@some_stuff);
You could even make the meth_ref take additional (or overriding) arguments.
Its a good idea, I'll put Class::MethRef on CPAN soon.
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to tcl or python, cuz I can never find clear information
about whether such an analog exists in those languages) is going away:
AUTOLOAD.
Going away? No way, it's SPREADING! We might wind up with AUTOGLOB, too.
http://dev.perl.org/rfc/324.pod
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On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 04:21:57PM -0800, John Rudd wrote:
So, does this mean my other heart's desire of operator overloading might
be coming forth?
Yeah, that was mentioned in Apoc and Exewhatever 3.
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Perl6 Quality
privacy.
(yes, I know you can emulate class variables via package globals like
$Class::blah, but I'm trying to look at it in a more uniform point of
view so that you can fully treat Classes themselves as being objects)
Class::Data::Inheritable anyone? :)
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Plus I remember being
to overhaul prototyping, cool. But I don't see
anything to allow Clength $string and Clength @array live
together. Its a big RFC, I probably missed it.
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not a
particularly different or interesting way to do it.
#1 is good, assuming it causes an error. It also leaves open the
possibility of reverting to #3 at some later date.
And pop(@array, 0) should do nothing and produce a warning.
Garbage In/Error Out.
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On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 07:16:13PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
"MGS" == Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MGS Forcing -T on Will break most existing programs.
MGS Makes one-liners annoying.
who runs
the user's to set. PERL_PRELOAD allows the admin to globally
set (in the system shell rc file) the rc files that perl will load.
Like any other environment variable which the admin wants to be
everywhere, put it in /etc/profile. A well configured system will
handle it from there.
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to be done now, unless you use splice(). I've never had it
get in my way or had a situation where I needed to swap pop() and
shift(). Has anyone else?
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shells -- nor shell invocations -- attend to that file.
Yeah, well, that's not my problem that people don't use the One True
Shell. ;)
Actually, there is a utility out there for universal shell
configuration. I've forgotten what its called, though. :(
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sense than -w. Same general problems all
'round.
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MORONS!
d attempts at things this might be useful for maybe, but it
all boils down to "somebody will find it useful to do something
somewhere."
I'd suggest we put a hold on further discussion about caveats and
implementations until someone really justifies this thing.
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ing which encompases the
conditionals you described.
Ignoring warnings should be a conscious decision on the part of the
programmer, NOT a fiat by the language designer.
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Steve Fink uddered:
Can't quite run perl yet.
Not for lack of trying.
ftp://cpan.valueclick.com/CPAN/authors/id/D/DC/DCONWAY/Quantum-Superpositions-1.03.tar.gz
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here-doc start from a binary left shift might
add serious complexity to th parser.
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"None of our men are "experts."... because
or your here-doc tag will always work.
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BOFH excuse #356:
the daemons! the daemons! the terrible daemons!
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 06:39:38PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote:
=head1 TITLE
Retire chop().
Awww, does this mean we won't be seeing chip() and chimp() in Perl 6?
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 06:48:35PM -0600, Tom Christiansen wrote:
Awww, does this mean we won't be seeing chip() and chimp() in Perl 6?
'Pends on whether you modulate them.
KCHP 1570 on your AM dial!
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Just
ntally run-on
ambiguities of multi-line comments. Its also alot easier to parse.
PS Keep in mind that =for can be replaced with =begin/=end in all cases.
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time when
I've ever put an '=' flush left.
I'm sure this has come up on p5p before, but I can't find anything
relevent in the archives.
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B
Sooo... what happens to the existing Shell.pm?
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MORONS!
).
In fact, I like "=for somewhere else" :)
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On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:48:23AM -0400, Bryan C . Warnock wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Sooo... what happens to the existing Shell.pm?
The RFC title notwithstanding, the pragma would be, by convention,
lowercase. (As reflected in the abstract.)
The nasty abiguity
ust delete the print statement? Unless you're doing some sort of
*really* weird stuff with tied filehandles.
That aside, could you expand on this and give some examples to show how
it will make life easier?
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OR
}
} } } }
By combining two of the solutions, my problem is solved. I can indent
my here-docs and yet keep the output a single line.
Show me where this fails and I'll shut up about it.
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mount of space a tag is
indented is the amount which will be clipped off of each line of
the here-doc. Tabs will BNOT be expanded.
2. POD end tags may now be followed by trailing whitespace
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it would be best to distribute a
collection of commonly used ones as a module with perl.
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slick and shiny crust
over my hairy anus
constipation sucks
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o counting whitespace again. And as Glen pointed out,
what about that leading newline?
Can I scream now?
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MORONS!
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 02:51:14PM -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Well, OK, so now we're talking shades of opinion. You'd agree it
works, though, and quite effectively. But you'd disagree about its
aesthetics, and its performance. The former is much less
$login:*.*
$ purge sys$login:$filename
$!
$ exit
but its not very idiomatic and YMMV.
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I worship Satan and Santa likes me
ons glibly.
TAG
} } } }
Right? You're not going to just indent the terminator because you
can. Its going to go along with indenting the text.
So indenting the terminator and indenting the text are linked. If you
do one, you want to do the other.
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When faced with desperate circumstances, we must adapt.
- Seven of Nine
the availablity of C compilers is no
longer an issue. Having had a taste of the hacks one must do to pull
off an all-perl version, XS seems the simplest route.
PS I've moved this discussion to perl6-language. Reply accordingly.
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$hash{a'b} doesn't
DWIM... not exactly a stunning problem.
(Yes, I am the author of D'oh::Year ;)
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An ice cream has its unique frequencyAre
conflicting with.
PS Shouldn't this be on perl6-language-objects?
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Cheating is often more efficient.
- Seven of Nine
sense in the restrictions of Perl 5 syntax,
but we've got room now to rethink the problem from scratch.
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But unluckily most Germans here
s a single-quote, so
That's a good argument. Unambiguating the language and simplifying
the parser.
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When faced with desperate circumstance
ngable functions.
If you find yourself needing that sort of thing often, perhaps it
should be rewritten as OO.
I'm feelin' an RFC retraction comin' on...
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u're coming to YAPC::Europe, I definately owe you a few beers.
If nothing else than for the hell I've been giving you over here-docs.
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MORONS!
.
RFC 122 talks about implementing hashes which are C-like structs in Perl.
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Don't ask me, lady. I live in beer.
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I'm not cute, I'm evil.
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') and Cparam('foo') regularly, I can see
why it is desired.
But it doesn't have to be easy.
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But why? It's such a well designed cesspool of C
until much futher on down in the code.
Garbage In, Error Out.
If you really want it, the wrapper require() is trivial.
DTRT? Data Terminal Ready, Tim? Document Filing and Retrieval Tedium?
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. "printf is like print, except..."
which makes it much easier to explain. It provides that bit of mental
runway to get the reader's mind off the ground.
The differences between sprintf and printf are very easy to explain.
"Equivalent to Cprint sprintf"
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rime example is
fixed-width data parsing. Most people reach for substr() or a regex,
but the best solution (as pointed out in perlfaq5) is pack. Yet it
still remains obtuse and I'm largely cargo-culting when I use it.
Think about a user who does not understand regexes. They typically
have no ide
37: Positional Return Lists Considered Harmful
RFC 127: Sane resolution to large function returns
Don't forget RFC 48 which discusses a localtime() replacement
returning a hash.
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cluck('The Royal Air Force does not allow chickens to '.
'fly planes!');
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But why? It's such a well de
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 08:06:58AM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
If exports() could take arbitrary symbols, just like @EXPORT
Yes, that's the idea.
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CAPS LOCK KEY STUCK STOP
CANNOT PROGRAM PERL REVERTING TO BASIC STOP
SEND HELP QUICK STOP
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Maybe they hooked you up with one of those ass-making magazines.
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 03:55:21AM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote:
Eliminate dump() function
I didn't even know it existed.
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Any
"Perhaps you meant '$term'?\n" if /(peterbuilt|$term)/i
$term ne \$1;
s/$term/;/g;
}
Filter::Util::Call's way of doing things is just too twisted and
strange.
Anyhow, I guess this is an elaborate "me too&
we'll get a perlpacktut man page.
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If you only hear one song this year there's something terribly wrong
with you.
even be that we should
kill them and replace them with something better. Has this yet been
discussed?
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Sometimes these hairstyles
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Only mindless violence can raise my spirits now!
the other day dealing with
Text::Wrap guts.
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BOFH excuse #69:
knot in cables caused data stream to become twisted and kinked
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 01:26:09AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 05:13:23PM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote:
This one not only modifies its arguments (or $_ when called without),
it also has the right prototype and works on lists:
sub chop (@) {
my
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 04:28:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aliasing again. They keys are copies, the values aliases.
How bizarre? Why does it work that way?
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under Windows, mostly through MFC junk or
peeking in the registry. It would probably be good to do it for the
MacOS versions, too.
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done, the rest is just a matter of extending File::Spec (trivial and
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sChWErn ScHWeRn schweRn sCHWErN
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 12:10:31AM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
Trivial? *cough* *snigger*
I'd write it up for you right now, but its too big to fit in the
margin.
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Skrewtape I've heard that semen tastes
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And it's made from all-natural baby skin, so you know it's good for the
environment.
http://www.goats.com/archive/000606.html
t, but no. The hash effect is pervasive and
chop() now has a simple prototype of @ in 5.7.0. (where before it was
undefined)
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Plus I remember being impressed with Ada because you could write an
infinite loop without
can't Perl? Smells like a C holdover to me.
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-- Tuco, "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly"
is it doesn't really require
any code translations, you can get away with overriding the core
functions instead:
sub sleep { CORE::sleep(int($_[0])); }
sub alarm { CORE::alarm(int($_[0])); }
sub time { int CORE::time }
something like that. hand-wave
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on those? Or
doesn't it?
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Any sufficiently encapsulated hack is no longer a hack.
standpoint.
Perhaps some of the more grossly UNIX specific things like getpwnam's
extended family and the SysV IPC stuff?
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On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 04:44:00PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
Or explore various garbage collection alternatives.
No good, the mob wouldn't be happy.
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AnyLoader;
Carp::croak("This is going to hurt the Perl community more than it ".
"is going to hurt you!");
Its not quite what you're talking about (yet) but we can extend it to
flesh out the idea of automagical autoloading.
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priate module and exports the appropriate function.
PS Actually, it REALLY exists because Arnar came up with a neat trick
and I ran with it.
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require certain interaction and
configuration (LWP, Net::FTP, most any DBD driver...). Those can't be
done automagically, but if we could do 80% then that's ok.
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