Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)
> in the protel orcad universe i have yet to see EDIF do anything useful > > Dennis Saputelli > > I agree with you Dennis, Well said. Mike Reagan * Tracking #: AD3A7D6B966FBC4F856C8731401ED4EF18246992 * **

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter S weep

2002-08-09 Thread Mike Leachman
All Wednesday I asked Altium, via email, when DXP would arrive, they answered with the DHL tracking number and the magic access codes I will need to install it. They might do the same for you? mike leachman -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday,

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
there was something in the box that said that it's funny i had the same feeling about that actually it was the first thing i saw in the box and then i didn't look any further at the whole thing Dennis Saputelli Cliff Gerhard wrote: > > Dennis: > > I am glad you posted this, I thought I was go

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Brad Velander
Abd ul-Rahman, Could you please elaborate on why you find it difficult to copy a polygon to another layer? I can do it without any effort whatsoever. I knew I had done it in the past. However what I had forgotten and just rediscovered is that the polygon does not change layer colour until

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Cliff Gerhard
Dennis: I am glad you posted this, I thought I was going crazy. I just spent an hour going thru all of the papers in my office looking for the CD Access Codes. ARRRG! I though I must have misplaced it after opening the box. Why in the world would they send you the program without the access co

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
in the protel orcad universe i have yet to see EDIF do anything useful Dennis Saputelli John Williams wrote: > > FYI, Mentor Expedition can load external netlists via EDIF. > I do not know if you can backannotate via EDIF from Expedition (I doubt it). > > John Williams > > - Original Mes

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Matt Pobursky
And also the "one year anniversary" of ATS is fast approaching for those who jumped on that bandwagon as it passed by. I suspect this way they (Altium) can say that the first ATS subscribers/suckers/prisoners [insert your favorite colorful noun here] got the first release of DXP (buggy or not) in

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:41 AM 8/10/2002 +0800, Katinka Mills wrote: >I have a 2 layer PCB with top and bottom ground planes (like to balance up >my copper) how do I hilight dead copper, I do not want to remove it, just >need to see it so I can add vias to make it not dead :o) As has been noted, there is a remove d

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread John Williams
FYI, Mentor Expedition can load external netlists via EDIF. I do not know if you can backannotate via EDIF from Expedition (I doubt it). John Williams - Original Message - From: "Michael Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 200

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i just rcvd my CD today i assume it is the same as the demo, i have not looked at it the registration comes under separate cover by mail, so no use opening it i guess Dennis Saputelli Tony Karavidas wrote: > > This is pure conjecture, but I have a feeling they got DXP out the door > to meet a

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Joe Sapienza
Tony, You may have a point there because their release also coincided with the release of PADS 5.0 Joe - Original Message - From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to se

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Brad Velander
Yeah Abd ul-Rahman, I had thought of that as a possibility, just hadn't had time to test that possibility. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.n

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread rlamoreaux
> Is it my imagination or does the net list generator in DXP SCH tools no longer support other vendors > formats (PADS PPCB) or a straight wire list? I can't see it, but the help for Create Netlist shows an additional to be determined function so it may be a future service pack item. A better

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Tony Karavidas
This is pure conjecture, but I have a feeling they got DXP out the door to meet a business requirement, not an engineering requirement. (Hey, if us engineers were in control, we'd probably never ship anything due to feature creep and trying to perfect things, so I can see the money side of those d

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Tony Karavidas
Or get one of us suckers to do it for ya! -Original Message- From: Michael Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:25 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists John Im not the real person to answer that but I think that was eliminated also. I

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:28 AM 8/9/2002 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: > I did a quick test trying to globally select all copper that was "no >net", it failed miserably. It was actually selecting copper that was >assigned to other nets. It's a known bug, at leat I think it has been reported before. I don't re

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Tim Hutcheson
Additional note: Problem is related to the fact that the "Sheets to Netlist" was set to "Active project" for the project when I started DSP. When I switch to "Active sheet", which is what I meant to simulate, the signals in the "Available Signals" list do not change to reflect the active sheet bu

Re: [PEDA] automatic calculation of PCB resistances and inductances

2002-08-09 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
Interesting. The last time I've seen finite element analysis, it took ages for simple stuff. Feedback about the speed is appreciated. Rene Fred A Rupinski wrote: > > FYI > > This is from the introduction at the link below, "FastFieldSolvers (...was > conceived...) in early 2000, from past expe

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
the noose is getting tighter Dennis Saputelli Michael Reagan wrote: > > John > Im not the real person to answer that but I think that was eliminated also. > I could be wrong (any help out there?) You will have to do what I did > spent another 1- 2K for a netlist translator from RSI > >

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Michael Reagan
John Im not the real person to answer that but I think that was eliminated also. I could be wrong (any help out there?) You will have to do what I did spent another 1- 2K for a netlist translator from RSI Mike > -Original Message- > From: John Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: F

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Tim Hutcheson
One obvious problem with DXP is that not all of the Active Signals show up in the signal lists after a change. I'm looking at the lists now and the schematic. I have a resistive element called Rtactor which is part of the load and it doesn't appear in the list but another resistor called Rlim do

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread John Ross
> > -Original Message- > > From: John Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:57 PM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] DXP Net lists > > > > > > Is it my imagination or does the net list generator in DXP SCH > > tools no longer support other vendors f

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Matt Pobursky
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:57:05 +0100, John Ross wrote: >Is it my imagination or does the net list generator in DXP SCH tools >no longer support other vendors formats (PADS PPCB) or a straight wire >list? Yikes! I hope this isn't true -- I routinely make a wirelist format netlist for myself to browse

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Michael Reagan
John This is what Protel suggests to load a netlist: Protel Knowledge Base Item - 3439 Query: How do I load a netlist into my PCB in Protel DXP? Answer: Transferring design data from one design domain to another in Protel DXP is done using DXP s design synchronizer, which includes a comparison e

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Back, Norb

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Brad Velander
Tony, if you read my message following this one that you replied to, you will realize that I had misread the original message. Your method would probably work as an inversion to the original request, highlighting the connected polygon. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat I

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Katinka Mills
First off thanks to all who responded :o) > -Original Message- > From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2002 1:29 AM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE > > > Tony, > that will only select copper connec

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Tony Karavidas
Yeah, I guess I was assuming the net connected to her power polygon has a 'majority' of it connected. If she does what I indicated, it will be obvious what parts of her polygon pour (which is a outer layer ground plane) are not actually connected. It will also be obvious if two or more large se

[PEDA] Re[2]: Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Phillip Stevens
It would be interesting to try this on DXP...see if the new global search/select in DXP can do any better in this area. Throw some real world problems at it, and see how it does. ---Phil BV> I did a quick test trying to globally select all copper that was "no BV> net", it failed mise

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Brad Velander
A solution that just came to mind after re-reading the original post. Generate your polygon with remove dead copper checked. After pouring select the polygon and "copy" it to another layer without repouring. Regenerate the original copper pour with remove dead copper unchecked. Turn on the two la

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Brian Sherer
Deselect "Remove Dead Copper" on Polygon Pour Setup Dialog box. Repour Polygon(s). Brian At 12:10 PM 8/9/02 -0500, you wrote: >At 12:41 AM 8/10/2002 +0800, Katinka Mills wrote: >>Hi all, >> >>Quick Q, >> >>I have a 2 layer PCB with top and bottom ground planes (like to balance up >>my copper) ho

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Brad Velander
Tony, that will only select copper connected to the single net that you click on. You would have to individually click every net on the board to highlight all copper other than the "dead copper". I did a quick test trying to globally select all copper that was "no net", it failed

Re: [PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread Michael Reagan
John If you visit the Protel website and check out the knowledge base, there is an explanation how to load a netlist. Personally I dont see anything easier than "LOAD NETLIST" so I dont understand why the change unless it was to speed the code up. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD > -Original

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread David VanHorn
At 12:41 AM 8/10/2002 +0800, Katinka Mills wrote: >Hi all, > >Quick Q, > >I have a 2 layer PCB with top and bottom ground planes (like to balance up >my copper) how do I hilight dead copper, I do not want to remove it, just >need to see it so I can add vias to make it not dead :o) > >Should be eas

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Tony Karavidas
Do an Edit-Select-ConnectedCopper and you'll get a highlighted poly plane for everything that IS connected. It will be obvious what IS NOT connected and you can populate that with stitching vias or pads. Tony -Original Message- From: Katinka Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Frida

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
select connected copper Dennis Saputelli Katinka Mills wrote: > > Hi all, > > Quick Q, > > I have a 2 layer PCB with top and bottom ground planes (like to balance up > my copper) how do I hilight dead copper, I do not want to remove it, just > need to see it so I can add vias to make it not de

[PEDA] DXP Net lists

2002-08-09 Thread John Ross
Is it my imagination or does the net list generator in DXP SCH tools no longer support other vendors formats (PADS PPCB) or a straight wire list? Best Regards John A. Ross RSD Communications Ltd 8 BorrowMeadow Road Springkerse Industrial Estate Stirling, Scotland FK7 7UW Tel +44 [0]1786

[PEDA] Highlighting dead copper on P99SE

2002-08-09 Thread Katinka Mills
Hi all, Quick Q, I have a 2 layer PCB with top and bottom ground planes (like to balance up my copper) how do I hilight dead copper, I do not want to remove it, just need to see it so I can add vias to make it not dead :o) Should be easy, but the help menu has no topic on dead copper (does not

[PEDA] SW Greed and Power

2002-08-09 Thread Fred A Rupinski

Re: [PEDA] automatic calculation of PCB resistances and inductances

2002-08-09 Thread Fred A Rupinski
FYI This is from the introduction at the link below, "FastFieldSolvers (...was conceived...) in early 2000, from past experience gathered using two excellent tools for electromagnetic parasitic extraction of 3D geometries coded at M.I.T. and released in the public domain, (...namely...) FastHenry

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Rolf Molitor
I am interested in the other problems you found working with the DXP simulator. Can you give us some hints ? Rolf Molitor Ing.Buero i2e Remscheid / Germany -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gesendet: Donnerstag,

Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep

2002-08-09 Thread Rolf Molitor
P99SE/SP6 shows the same behaviour but there you can ignore the error messages and do the simulation run with positive values even if Protel calls for negative ones . Do the simulation runs ok in DXP if you ignore the messages ? Did you already reported the behaviour to Altium ? Rolf Molitor Ing.