[RBW] Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

i cut scores of cable and housing every day with the pedro's cutters. they stay sharp and cut well. round out the end of the housing with a pick after cutting and you're all set. my .02 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rosco Road

How does this compare to the Bmc? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrains for Riv Mountain Mixtes

go 1x10 or 1x11. none of my bikes have front retailers and all of them are happy about that. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

All I can say is, you do your diligence, take your best educated shot at a bike that will work, and accept that if it doesn't work out you will either have to live with it or sell it along and take some financial loss. I think of it as the fee for the education I've gotten by riding the bike -

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

Congrats on your new Riv!! I know you will love it! Many happy miles! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

Of the 14 bikes I currently own, I was able to ride only 2 before buying them. One is a Surly Cross Check that I bought new from a LBS in about 2007, and while it's useful as my commuter-bike, it's my least favorite. The other is a 60cm Hillborne, which I test rode at an Ohio Rivendell

[RBW] Re: New Medium Saddlesack (Blue)

Thanks Bill. I jumped on that right away. I'll have it soon. On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 8:49:46 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > It looks like Bens has the Nitto guard on-hand, if you want it right away. > > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 5:37:46 PM

[RBW] Re: New Medium Saddlesack (Blue)

It looks like Bens has the Nitto guard on-hand, if you want it right away. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 5:37:46 PM UTC-7, Broccoli Cog wrote: > > After some contemplation and some great feedback from all of you I just > received my new medium Saddlesack. I am

[RBW] New Medium Saddlesack (Blue)

After some contemplation and some great feedback from all of you I just received my new medium Saddlesack. I am beyond happy with how awesome it is. Af first when I looked at it I didn't think it would be large enough to hold my S24O gear. I thought about exchanging it for the large but then I

Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

That is pretty awesome for a bike packing or touring bike. I think for brevet usage though, I'd still want a double and have the cassette more closely spaced. Ideally for a brevet the more cruising gears you have between 65 and 85 gear inches, the better. I think a 11-30 12 speed with a 38/24

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

Thanks for that endorsement of the crankset. My 1x11 parts are Shimano XT which is also pretty affordable. I think I'll keep the 2x10 running until after I'm finished with my 200 miles on 10 bikes challenge. BL in EC On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 3:53:04 PM UTC-7, Keith Muller wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

On 08/10/2017 06:51 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Steve correctly pointed out a qualifier "Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well. And by all means,

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

Bill and all, I've been really pleased with the M30 Crankset. Definitely a great option for your MTB. After some riding. The gear range is more than appropriate for the riding that I do. I think the Eagle GX is a great budget option for people, but there are fewer hub options because of

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

Steve correctly pointed out a qualifier "Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well. And by all means, describe. " My comment was deliberate.

[RBW] How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

Much research at places like here, then dive in and hope for the best. In the case of Rivs, you can ride it for a few months, then sell at not too much of a discount if it's not your thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

A wise woman! On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Jay Connolly wrote: > ... When my wife found me tearing furiously at the packaging of a new part > one day, she paused in the doorway for a moment and said, "This is instead > of a younger woman, right?" And I said,

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

At my size (6'5", 260) and location (on an Island with a total population of not much more than 500k) it's hard to find bikes to test ride. My first 700c bike (a 60cm Trek 520) was too small, though the salesman/store owner insisted that it would be a good fit. In time, I bought a 62cm Surly

Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrains for Riv Mountain Mixtes

One thousand gold stars for such a cool single shifter. Do you blue Loctite the bolt? Patrick Moore, who used those on his pseudo half step 2X7 on Kelly Take-offs. On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:29 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> posted: > > > > > --

Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

To reply to Jacob's question: I've never used a 1X system with more than 5 or 7 cogs in back, but I have used many pseudo 1X9s and, now, 10, but these really being "1 plus hardly ever used granny." That is, the drivetrain is for all practical purposes, and for 95%+ of the riding, a 1X system. If

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

https://youtu.be/aj5DccgBYeM?t=25s On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 5:36:51 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > >Well, you'll never get it wrong and you'll never get it right. > > Every bike has a "sweet spot" and it is always revealed if you forget > about everything you thought you knew, the

Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

12? On the Rivendell list? Who'd a' thunk?? Seriously, I have no complaint with 12, as long as it doesn't involve electric shifting and computers, and as long as it last a reasonable number of miles. I'll be interested to hear how 11 and 12 (and for that matter, 10, to which I changed from 9 not

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

GE I misquoted the "Min SH" column as the PBH range. My mistake. The PBH column (1st col) shows a 74 to 75cm PBH range. The takeaway is: concentrate on women as buyers. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:03:49 PM UTC-4, G.E. wrote: > *John*: I was going to say

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

Daniel: When I bought my Atlantis in 2003, I had never seen a Rivendell, let alone ridden one. However, the bike got an excellent review from John Schubert in Adventure Cycling's magazine. The jist of the article was that if you wanted a well thought, perfectly serviceable touring bike that

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

Y'know, I do have 2-3 feet of that narrow copper tubing, bought to customize cables for my S3X hubs. Must try it as cable ends; with glue, of course. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM, 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I am unfamiliar with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

Good idea; I may try that; thanks -- all the more in that it will look nicer than a crushed cap. I really dislike the appearance of too-big brake cable caps squished down onto skinny derailleur cables. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Ian A wrote: > Patrick, > > Have you

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

One point to take into account is, be prepared to list, find no takers, and remove and wait, and list again. I've seen the same bikes and parts snapped up right away at good prices, at other times linger for weeks with no takers. I listed a middle sized Sam frameset, with added braze ons, for

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

Should've mentioned that it looks wicked cool at first glance too! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Drivetrains for Riv Mountain Mixtes

1st iteration MMM will be a Nexus 8 with Alex tandem rims and 50mm Big Bens. I have a couple bikes with Alfine 8s, but they are noisy and my Nexus is silent (and 36H). If I don't like that I might swap over the 1x9 12-34 from my Clementine. On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 12:31:54 PM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

I'm relatively new to the group, and as such may have missed a past thread on the topic - but what are the benefits to a 1x setup? They seem to be rising in popularity, yet at first glance it seems limiting and expensive. Is the rear wheel dished more? How does that effect longevity? Is it

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

Well, you'll never get it wrong and you'll never get it right. Every bike has a "sweet spot" and it is always revealed if you forget about everything you thought you knew, the "supposed to be's and shoulda woulda coulda" and just ride it. Doesn't mean you'll ride it beyond that

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

On 08/10/2017 05:24 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: I think it's the same as ordering a custom. Trust the supplier + comprehend the numbers. If you don't or can't comprehend the numbers, then it's a leap of faith. Move it on if you hate it and try to learn something from it that you can use next

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

I think it's the same as ordering a custom. Trust the supplier + comprehend the numbers. If you don't or can't comprehend the numbers, then it's a leap of faith. Move it on if you hate it and try to learn something from it that you can use next time. Do you have the geometry chart for

[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

Those questions, well my version of them, drove me round the bend. The good news was I hadn't far to go. Grin. At which point I realized there was no way to answer those questions except after I rode the bike. I attempted, and largely failed, to enter into a peace, accepting that I couldn't do

[RBW] How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

I hopped right on the Roadini. Since it's a pre-order with a wait, a tinge of worry has creeped in. I've never bought a bike before taking a spin on it let alone not being able to touch it or a pre-order. Will I like it, will parts selection be a pain in the butt, what if it rides like my

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

That is awesome. My Jones has an XT 1x11 kit and I love the triple/friction setup on my Hunq but the application for the Eagle seems real. On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:54:10 PM UTC-5, Jay Connolly wrote: > > I've been tempted to put the Eagle groupset on my Jones, but lately I've >

[RBW] Buying a bike sight unseen, how do you guys do it?

My excitement over the Roadini has a tinge of worry. I've never bought a bike before taking a spin on it let alone not being able to touch it or a pre-order. Will I like it, will parts selection be a pain in the butt, what if it rides like my drop bar touring bike, look at that shiny titanium

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Send them an email, link is in the CL posting! Let your voices be heard!!! On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 1:11 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > At an asking price of $3800, it really needs better lighting, better > background, and better photos

[RBW] Re: FS TA Cranks, Dura Ace RD

Thanks for all the interest in the bike parts. The cranks and RD have both sold. Cheers Jason > On Aug 9, 2017, at 11:38 PM, J L wrote: > > Hey gang, sorry for the crosspost. > > I have a couple of gems up for sale: > > TA pro 5 vis cranks, 170mm English thread. Current

[RBW] Re: Drivetrains for Riv Mountain Mixtes

The world collectively sighs in relief. Grin. I love the simplicity and range of my 2x9 with 38/24 chain rings and 12-36 rear cassette. Thumb shifter for the rear, no derailure for the front. Granny is reserved for trail and now-there's-a-hill! dirt roads. In more mild terrain than mine, a 40

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

At an asking price of $3800, it really needs better lighting, better background, and better photos all around. On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 11:59:23 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > That bike really needs a decent full drive-side pic. I can't see the > brifters or rear derailer. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

Looks great. Regarding your comment about the bike being nimble: I keep tinkering with my Joe and now have a Jones Loop 710 bar on it. After riding it for a couple of months with a drop bar, the upright bar is a revelation. I ordered the bike with an Albatross bar, but was too accustomed to

[RBW] Re: Drivetrains for Riv Mountain Mixtes

My Medium Mountain Mixte is going to inherit a 3x8 drivetrain I used to have an Appaloosa. While the Appaloosa nailed the midpoint between an Atlantis and a Hunqapillar, I decided that I wanted BOTH an Atlantis AND a Hunqapillar. So I sold the Appaloosa frameset, handlebars and wheelset.

[RBW] Re: Drivetrains for Riv Mountain Mixtes

My riding is similar and I'm running a 1x9 drivetrain on my Karate Monkey and although I have a triple on my vintage Trek MTB, I've never shifted out of the middle ring. I mostly ride both bikes as single-speeds and only shift if I'm really tired and/or I have a really strong headwind.

[RBW] Drivetrains for Riv Mountain Mixtes

I'm chewing on what to put on my forthcoming Mountain Mixte. I have a number of different set ups now - mostly, but not all - Alfine 8 or 11 IGH's. Have a 1X10 on my Soma San Marcos. Over the years I have moved away from front and back derailleurs but not ruling them out on this one. Was

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Fender recommendations

I'm not as brave as Tom and run 60mm Berthouds over 37mm tires and theres a little too much gap aesthically, i think 42-44 would look a little better and fit fine. I have VO, Honjo and Berthouds and think the berthouds compare well, i've not weighed them but they seem more durable/tough then

[RBW] Re: PW Track hub -bolt size?

here it is according to Phil, https://phil-wood-co.myshopify.com/products/track-hub-bolts-replacement-part i think they are M8, but too lazy to go downstairs and check :) FYI i do not have the serrated ones, so no need. do they not come with bolts? On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 12:50:13

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

Between the 54 Hunqapillar and the 55 Appaloosa, which ride did you like better? I have a 22" 1984 Trek 830 like yours and I'm debating between these two Rivs for a future purchase. I expected the Appaloosa to be more like the 830 but you reference the Hunqapillar being more similar. On

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Dude, I just bought a Clem. There's no way that immaculate custom Riv/Sachs totally my size will ever come down in price enough for me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: Atlantis Fender recommendations

I have Berthoud 60mm stainless steel fenders over 50mm Marathon sUpremes on my Atlantis.I'm comfortable with the clearance, though others whose judgment I respect on this list think it's a little skinny. But over 42mm tires they'd be perfect. They are available from Peter White Cycles.

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Email them, you know you want to!!! On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > That bike really needs a decent full drive-side pic. I can't see the > brifters or rear derailer. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

*John*: I was going to say that I believe the PBH was 73-74, rather than 63-64 as Bill pointed out, but yes, it's definitely going to be for a smaller stature individual, most likely female. *Joe*: I think you're likely correct. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a JB paint job, as I'm sure I would've

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

The Jagwire compressionless housing is extremely stiff - I don't think I'd use it for anything other than cable disc brakes, which have fallen out of favor with me anyway. For spiral brake housing, a Dremel cut-off wheel is the final solution. I use the fiber-reinforced one in an overkill

[RBW] PW Track hub -bolt size?

My Quickbeam is getting a fanny tuck with a PW track hub and Velocity rim. Anyone know what the bolt size is for the PW hub? I may order Phil's Chrome Dome w/ the serrated teeth for that extra bite to keep it from slipping. Or if it's the same size use the stainless caps from the old Surly

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

That bike really needs a decent full drive-side pic. I can't see the brifters or rear derailer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Clem L

Joe, congratulations! Great looking ride. The Clems are such nice riders. Enjoy! Richard On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Got it yesterday, did a few miles shakedown/adjust-stuff ride today. To > steal Velouria's blog name, what a lovely bike! It has the

Re: [RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

Patrick Moore wrote: It's this quality that I've noticed all all 5 Rivendell bikes I've owned and that I think Grant ought to patent -- I'd love to see a video of his interaction with the patent office! > > I think I found that video, actually: https://youtu.be/pnq96W9jtuw "It's people like

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Those seat stay caps are classic Sachs. Very cool! KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:39:20 PM UTC-4, Beaverton Bob wrote: > > > https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/richard-sachs-built-custom/6238145416.html > > Thought it would be interesting for the group to see this! > > Ride Safely,

[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rosco Road

Bump. Also, price reduction: $600 and buyer pays actual shipping (bike flights plus material). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

Absolutely one of the nicer bikes I have seen. The colour is perfect. I liked your photos and would only change a few things before the sale. First put the bars back in the upright position, and don't tape them all the way, use the cork grips again. The brake levers have to go, they look like a

[RBW] Re: New Clem L

Btw, "elegant" is kinda funny. The Clem project started as a 'Riv beater bike' from the youngsters there that was supposed to be flat black so it looked rattle-canned. Oops! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: New Clem L

Thanks, Evan! Yeah, I fell in love with that color (someone here called it Acid Green, pretty cool) when it showed up on the Cheviot. I wasn't quite evolved (or rich enough) then for a mixte, so I jumped this time. It's hard to express how elegant the bike is in person, especially fendered and

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

One thing to remember is it's a full custom, so the original buyer was involved in the design, too. Grant is pretty strict about using the customer's expressed style of riding to create his vision of how that will look. I would be surprised if e-richie had any more input in the design than