Re: [RBW] Re: today's ride (alt. title: fenders are good!)
Similarly, on a ride which ranged from 53F - 71F over 100Km, a l/s light Ibex baselayer under a Joneswares s/s jersey. Joneswares shorts, thin wool socks. Not cold enough for wool gloves, but if it were, Ibex for cool, and JC Penny for cold. I wore a wind jacket for about the 1st hour, then no longer needed it. Packed one a couple of weeks ago when we climbed Mt Cheaha as well. Going uphill the effort was plenty to keep warm, but coming downhill in the cold with a sweaty kit on necessitated some wind protection. Swobo is very good too, especially some of the older stuff. From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 11:56:04 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: today's ride (alt. title: fenders are good!) That said, I wear Swobo wool jersies year round. They're perfect _for me_ in the heat of the summer and the chill of the fall and winter (hey, it was 56F today!). A SS jersey is fine for 3/4 of the year. I don't ride when it's pouring, only drizzling, and that is pretty rare in itself. Today's ride was a bit more than that, and I wasn't really planning on getting too wet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report - Early thoughts on AAH
Well put. It did kind of go off course and I think I did some of the steering. My point was you do notice the weight difference. And you notice the comfort too. Good position is worth it. It's why so many people come and go in our sport. They realize that, gasp, no, they aren't going to be the one, the next Lance and decide all the hassle isn't worth it. Even the dedicated among us can't say we don't have some trouble getting out the door for a winter ride, right? But a good position, a comfortable fit on the bike (I'm 6'6 so we're in the same choir), kind of ensures we'll be back out there. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I started a thread awhile back asking or stating I thought I would lose 2 or 3 miles per hour. I started another thread on Bicycle Lifestyle How important is speed or some such garbage. Then as reading the Simpleone thread here it looks like it was vearing off into weight and ride quality etc. I can say that I was right .. I lose about 2 to 3 mph when riding my AHH on the road. That is a significant speed reduction that can be attributed mostly to aerodynamics and tire pressure. I'm a big guy at 6'5 tall and 225lbs when I sit up it's like putting the brakes on so having a riding postion up all the time has a cost. I was way to comfortable to worry but did notice that people I used to drop at normal pace were making me work and add being a bit out of shape.. I was soon on my own. Here is a speed calculator which shows what many are saying.. the weight doen't effect that much within reason. http://bikecalculator.com/veloUS.html But start messing with going from hoods to drops and you see a 1.xx mph different.. that is about the difference in normal riding setup from my old bike to AHH.. Going from Tubulars to MTB tires shows close to 3mph difference. Anyway it's fun to mess around with and see estimates on cause and effect. But what did stand out besides that? Very windy day today.. stability.. I realized I wasn't getting blown all over the road and how easy it was to just ride. Stopped using spd pedals and went with the grip kings.. legs are tired in different places. I believe but can't prove that if speed was important I would go back to spd's and get a mph difference back... shrug.. I quit wearing lycra so the last three days of riding have been in musa pants and wooly undies.. at close to 25 miles per ride.. felt great.. though the new saddle isn't near as comfy as the one I have broken in. Zero hand, neck irritation.. even not wearing gloves of any kind.. sweet! I know nothing about Geometry of bikes but this was comfortable for out of the saddle climbing .. yes suprised me.. as my tour bike is wierd out of the saddle cramped.. this felt smooth and nice like my race bike.. Attitude- While keeping up with the group I started to sweat.. said i didn't come out to workout .. seeya.. stopped and took a picture of the Clydesdales at Grants Farm. When I did get home.. and this may be the most important.. I was looking for things I needed at local stores for an excuse to get back on the bike. I can assure you that didn't happen after rides on the race bike. That's it today- guess this would be more directed at folks that are wondering the cost of comfort .. and to state I believe there is a cost.. it's just not from the weight. kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: today's ride (alt. title: fenders are good!)
Since this is the topic - in cooler weather, a wool long sleeve tee with either a short or no sleeve tee on top. Then either a windbreaker or heavy wool shirt on top. Depends on the weather. Have a couple of old Filson shirts that are good for that. And even better, an old Bemidji Woolen Mills shirt-jac that is almost overkill until the temps are in the low 20's. Legs - often MUSA pants with wool not so tights underneath. Sometimes a pair of knickers with tall wool ski socks. Have some Swobo knickers and they work. But have just about worn them out after two to three years. BTW, do have two Swobo jerseys, and one is way too short. Only works as a top layer now. Don't want to be mistaken for a plumber on the bike. And yeah David, a trip out there would be nice. Ain't happening anytime soon. Too many other irons in the fire right now. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 22, 3:55 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Similarly, on a ride which ranged from 53F - 71F over 100Km, a l/s light Ibex baselayer under a Joneswares s/s jersey. Joneswares shorts, thin wool socks. Not cold enough for wool gloves, but if it were, Ibex for cool, and JC Penny for cold. I wore a wind jacket for about the 1st hour, then no longer needed it. Packed one a couple of weeks ago when we climbed Mt Cheaha as well. Going uphill the effort was plenty to keep warm, but coming downhill in the cold with a sweaty kit on necessitated some wind protection. Swobo is very good too, especially some of the older stuff. From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 11:56:04 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: today's ride (alt. title: fenders are good!) That said, I wear Swobo wool jersies year round. They're perfect _for me_ in the heat of the summer and the chill of the fall and winter (hey, it was 56F today!). A SS jersey is fine for 3/4 of the year. I don't ride when it's pouring, only drizzling, and that is pretty rare in itself. Today's ride was a bit more than that, and I wasn't really planning on getting too wet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple One
I'm glad I read this. I've been a bicycler( I love that description...thanks Grant P) for the past 22 years. I've never raced and found early on that group rides weren't for me. I've never been fast (15-17mph avg at best..usually 13-14) and found that trying to go above that took the fun out of riding for me. I hit the big 5-0 Saturday and it hit me like a boot to the groin (mentally at least). I was however able to do a wonderful 77 mile ride on my GP designed Sam Hill. I Rode to two neighboring towns and back, some mixed terrain, stopped for lunch (had my first bison burger, great, even though a bit too heavy for a mid ride break). Total time a bit over 6 hours. Time on bike 5 1/2 hours or so. Point is I finished. It was the longest ride of my life. I feel I could have easily done another 23 miles for a solo century, but I had commitments and had to stop at that. Sunday I was able to get out and do a 50 mile all road ride on my Ram. Lots of curvy roads and fast descents (Jack Brown greens are unbelievable). I recouped pretty well from Saturday's ride and pushed myself pretty hard. When I got home I logged my miles and started to flip through my computer to the avg speed, but decided what the hell and cleared the trip out. I guess I didn't really want to know how fast or slow I was. I had an awesome time and that was all that mattered. I guess the point I'm trying to make is this. I'm so thankful I didn't let my slowness discourage me over the years. Bicycler-ing for its own sake has always been what I looked forward to the most when the weather was nice. And even when it wasn't so nice. I love it as much today as I did 22 years and 80 some K miles ago. As for Grant Petersen designed bikes I can honestly say they are my favorites. Ride quality, aesthetics, the whole picture. They are truly a pleasure to own and use. They are the benchmark I set to gauge all other bikes I own and ride. I'm quite fond of my other bikes too, but they are certainly no Rivendells. Thanks Grant! Sorry to ramble on, Clyde (1/2 century old bicycler who lives among non bicyclers,who wanted to share his experiences with other bicyclers) Canter n Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: Well said my friend and this is what I failed to say earlier. Unless you're racing for the rent money, it is completely and totally about how you feel. If you are 1/2 slower on a metric century, but had a great time, that's what counts. Speaking of Jan, whom I really respect, but nonetheless, he says rando's aren't racing but that's what they are doing. I stopped racing wy back in '92-it was time. It took a while to get it out of my blood. I still like going fast, but when I ride a century or a double metric, I make sure there is a lot of fun mixed in. If I want to snap a pic I do it. Were are all going to end up in the same place eventually. Think it will matter who got there first? (just a litl joke!). On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Noel emiller3...@gmail.com wrote: A one pound weight difference in a frame actually indicates a fairly significant difference in tubing thickness. Speaking only for myself, significant differences in tubing thicknesses make for significant differences in ride quality. Now, I don't exactly agree with Jan's planing hypothesis, and I don't feel I'm any faster or slower on bikes with thicker or thinner tubing, but I do indeed prefer the feel (how's that for an objective measurement?) of thinner wall tubing. Heavy gauge tubing (meaning anything over .9/.7/.9) of standard diameter and *any* gauge OS tubing feels wooden and dead to me - thudding is a pretty good description, IMO. I personally find that a mix of .8/.5/.8 and . 9/.7/.9 standard diameter makes for a lively frame - and I'm 200 pounds on a 63 cm. frame. Weight? Don't know and don't care. If I wanted light I'd by a Madone. All I care about is ride quality, and I agree that Grant/Riv are building frames out of such heavy tubing that ride quality suffers - even with my beloved Grand Bois Hetres. Thankfully, enough people disagree with me that Rivendell is able to keep its doors open! Noel Orange County, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple One
Forgot the thread related content. I don't really know nor care why my Rivs are my favorites. Tubing spec, geometry, where the tire contacts the road in relation to the steering axis,amount of springiness, stiffness. I really don't know and really don't care why. IMO it just don't get any better. I'm no lightweight either. I go 205-215 lbs depending on time of year. My Sam is a 60 and the Ram a 64. I'm sure I'm not the first to say (didn't read all the posts) but to the OP. If you are concerned as to the tubing spec vs your weight Im sure a call to Grant would clear the matter up completly. C On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:49 AM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote: I'm glad I read this. I've been a bicycler( I love that description...thanks Grant P) for the past 22 years. I've never raced and found early on that group rides weren't for me. I've never been fast (15-17mph avg at best..usually 13-14) and found that trying to go above that took the fun out of riding for me. I hit the big 5-0 Saturday and it hit me like a boot to the groin (mentally at least). I was however able to do a wonderful 77 mile ride on my GP designed Sam Hill. I Rode to two neighboring towns and back, some mixed terrain, stopped for lunch (had my first bison burger, great, even though a bit too heavy for a mid ride break). Total time a bit over 6 hours. Time on bike 5 1/2 hours or so. Point is I finished. It was the longest ride of my life. I feel I could have easily done another 23 miles for a solo century, but I had commitments and had to stop at that. Sunday I was able to get out and do a 50 mile all road ride on my Ram. Lots of curvy roads and fast descents (Jack Brown greens are unbelievable). I recouped pretty well from Saturday's ride and pushed myself pretty hard. When I got home I logged my miles and started to flip through my computer to the avg speed, but decided what the hell and cleared the trip out. I guess I didn't really want to know how fast or slow I was. I had an awesome time and that was all that mattered. I guess the point I'm trying to make is this. I'm so thankful I didn't let my slowness discourage me over the years. Bicycler-ing for its own sake has always been what I looked forward to the most when the weather was nice. And even when it wasn't so nice. I love it as much today as I did 22 years and 80 some K miles ago. As for Grant Petersen designed bikes I can honestly say they are my favorites. Ride quality, aesthetics, the whole picture. They are truly a pleasure to own and use. They are the benchmark I set to gauge all other bikes I own and ride. I'm quite fond of my other bikes too, but they are certainly no Rivendells. Thanks Grant! Sorry to ramble on, Clyde (1/2 century old bicycler who lives among non bicyclers,who wanted to share his experiences with other bicyclers) Canter n Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: Well said my friend and this is what I failed to say earlier. Unless you're racing for the rent money, it is completely and totally about how you feel. If you are 1/2 slower on a metric century, but had a great time, that's what counts. Speaking of Jan, whom I really respect, but nonetheless, he says rando's aren't racing but that's what they are doing. I stopped racing wy back in '92-it was time. It took a while to get it out of my blood. I still like going fast, but when I ride a century or a double metric, I make sure there is a lot of fun mixed in. If I want to snap a pic I do it. Were are all going to end up in the same place eventually. Think it will matter who got there first? (just a litl joke!). On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Noel emiller3...@gmail.com wrote: A one pound weight difference in a frame actually indicates a fairly significant difference in tubing thickness. Speaking only for myself, significant differences in tubing thicknesses make for significant differences in ride quality. Now, I don't exactly agree with Jan's planing hypothesis, and I don't feel I'm any faster or slower on bikes with thicker or thinner tubing, but I do indeed prefer the feel (how's that for an objective measurement?) of thinner wall tubing. Heavy gauge tubing (meaning anything over .9/.7/.9) of standard diameter and *any* gauge OS tubing feels wooden and dead to me - thudding is a pretty good description, IMO. I personally find that a mix of .8/.5/.8 and . 9/.7/.9 standard diameter makes for a lively frame - and I'm 200 pounds on a 63 cm. frame. Weight? Don't know and don't care. If I wanted light I'd by a Madone. All I care about is ride quality, and I agree that Grant/Riv are building frames out of such heavy tubing that ride quality suffers - even with my beloved Grand Bois Hetres. Thankfully, enough people disagree with me that Rivendell is able to keep its doors open! Noel Orange County, CA. -- You received this message because you are
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple One
If I may, point is you enjoyed it. IMHO keeping track of your avg speed, HR etc., is OK if you want to test yourself and such, just don't make it an obsession, or get bummed if you have an off day or your avg suffers because you stopped to look at stuff. Been asking everyone this-what area are you riding in? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:49 AM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote: I'm glad I read this. I've been a bicycler( I love that description...thanks Grant P) for the past 22 years. I've never raced and found early on that group rides weren't for me. I've never been fast (15-17mph avg at best..usually 13-14) and found that trying to go above that took the fun out of riding for me. I hit the big 5-0 Saturday and it hit me like a boot to the groin (mentally at least). I was however able to do a wonderful 77 mile ride on my GP designed Sam Hill. I Rode to two neighboring towns and back, some mixed terrain, stopped for lunch (had my first bison burger, great, even though a bit too heavy for a mid ride break). Total time a bit over 6 hours. Time on bike 5 1/2 hours or so. Point is I finished. It was the longest ride of my life. I feel I could have easily done another 23 miles for a solo century, but I had commitments and had to stop at that. Sunday I was able to get out and do a 50 mile all road ride on my Ram. Lots of curvy roads and fast descents (Jack Brown greens are unbelievable). I recouped pretty well from Saturday's ride and pushed myself pretty hard. When I got home I logged my miles and started to flip through my computer to the avg speed, but decided what the hell and cleared the trip out. I guess I didn't really want to know how fast or slow I was. I had an awesome time and that was all that mattered. I guess the point I'm trying to make is this. I'm so thankful I didn't let my slowness discourage me over the years. Bicycler-ing for its own sake has always been what I looked forward to the most when the weather was nice. And even when it wasn't so nice. I love it as much today as I did 22 years and 80 some K miles ago. As for Grant Petersen designed bikes I can honestly say they are my favorites. Ride quality, aesthetics, the whole picture. They are truly a pleasure to own and use. They are the benchmark I set to gauge all other bikes I own and ride. I'm quite fond of my other bikes too, but they are certainly no Rivendells. Thanks Grant! Sorry to ramble on, Clyde (1/2 century old bicycler who lives among non bicyclers,who wanted to share his experiences with other bicyclers) Canter n Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: Well said my friend and this is what I failed to say earlier. Unless you're racing for the rent money, it is completely and totally about how you feel. If you are 1/2 slower on a metric century, but had a great time, that's what counts. Speaking of Jan, whom I really respect, but nonetheless, he says rando's aren't racing but that's what they are doing. I stopped racing wy back in '92-it was time. It took a while to get it out of my blood. I still like going fast, but when I ride a century or a double metric, I make sure there is a lot of fun mixed in. If I want to snap a pic I do it. Were are all going to end up in the same place eventually. Think it will matter who got there first? (just a litl joke!). On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Noel emiller3...@gmail.com wrote: A one pound weight difference in a frame actually indicates a fairly significant difference in tubing thickness. Speaking only for myself, significant differences in tubing thicknesses make for significant differences in ride quality. Now, I don't exactly agree with Jan's planing hypothesis, and I don't feel I'm any faster or slower on bikes with thicker or thinner tubing, but I do indeed prefer the feel (how's that for an objective measurement?) of thinner wall tubing. Heavy gauge tubing (meaning anything over .9/.7/.9) of standard diameter and *any* gauge OS tubing feels wooden and dead to me - thudding is a pretty good description, IMO. I personally find that a mix of .8/.5/.8 and . 9/.7/.9 standard diameter makes for a lively frame - and I'm 200 pounds on a 63 cm. frame. Weight? Don't know and don't care. If I wanted light I'd by a Madone. All I care about is ride quality, and I agree that Grant/Riv are building frames out of such heavy tubing that ride quality suffers - even with my beloved Grand Bois Hetres. Thankfully, enough people disagree with me that Rivendell is able to keep its doors open! Noel Orange County, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options,
[RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose tipped up? From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please. Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough. I think part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I mostly ride as a commuter. When I ride more for sport and can shift my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it should be. I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a $175 saddle on the bike. Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles? On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose tipped up? From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please. Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple One
I'm in Bristol, Va. For those familiar with the area I'll do a brief point to point breakdown. I took Wagner Road from my house to Island road. Island road to Pittstown road. Pittstown to Campground road. Campground to Reedy Creek road. Reedy creek crossing state line and using hway 421 into Tennessee connection to 11W going to Kingsport. Turn around point at new Best Buy/ Dicks shopping center in Kingsport. 11w back to Island road in Bristol. Island road to Walnut grove road?. Then to Tn state route 126 towards Blountville. Through Steele Creek park to Vance Drive, then to 11E towards Johnson city. Turn around in Piney Flats Tennessee back to Bristol on 11e. Lunch at the Burger Bar in Bristol, Va (last place Hank Williams was seen alive). Then on to Steele Creek again to let the sun shine on my back and ease my sore muscles . Some puttering about town and back home. Don't think I left anything out. Computer showing 76. something for the day. It was stellar weather and I'm glad I was able to take advantage of it. Fall has been extremely kind to us in these parts so far. I hope it is for you folks as well. A great ride indeed. C On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:31 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: If I may, point is you enjoyed it. IMHO keeping track of your avg speed, HR etc., is OK if you want to test yourself and such, just don't make it an obsession, or get bummed if you have an off day or your avg suffers because you stopped to look at stuff. Been asking everyone this-what area are you riding in? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:49 AM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote: I'm glad I read this. I've been a bicycler( I love that description...thanks Grant P) for the past 22 years. I've never raced and found early on that group rides weren't for me. I've never been fast (15-17mph avg at best..usually 13-14) and found that trying to go above that took the fun out of riding for me. I hit the big 5-0 Saturday and it hit me like a boot to the groin (mentally at least). I was however able to do a wonderful 77 mile ride on my GP designed Sam Hill. I Rode to two neighboring towns and back, some mixed terrain, stopped for lunch (had my first bison burger, great, even though a bit too heavy for a mid ride break). Total time a bit over 6 hours. Time on bike 5 1/2 hours or so. Point is I finished. It was the longest ride of my life. I feel I could have easily done another 23 miles for a solo century, but I had commitments and had to stop at that. Sunday I was able to get out and do a 50 mile all road ride on my Ram. Lots of curvy roads and fast descents (Jack Brown greens are unbelievable). I recouped pretty well from Saturday's ride and pushed myself pretty hard. When I got home I logged my miles and started to flip through my computer to the avg speed, but decided what the hell and cleared the trip out. I guess I didn't really want to know how fast or slow I was. I had an awesome time and that was all that mattered. I guess the point I'm trying to make is this. I'm so thankful I didn't let my slowness discourage me over the years. Bicycler-ing for its own sake has always been what I looked forward to the most when the weather was nice. And even when it wasn't so nice. I love it as much today as I did 22 years and 80 some K miles ago. As for Grant Petersen designed bikes I can honestly say they are my favorites. Ride quality, aesthetics, the whole picture. They are truly a pleasure to own and use. They are the benchmark I set to gauge all other bikes I own and ride. I'm quite fond of my other bikes too, but they are certainly no Rivendells. Thanks Grant! Sorry to ramble on, Clyde (1/2 century old bicycler who lives among non bicyclers,who wanted to share his experiences with other bicyclers) Canter n Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: Well said my friend and this is what I failed to say earlier. Unless you're racing for the rent money, it is completely and totally about how you feel. If you are 1/2 slower on a metric century, but had a great time, that's what counts. Speaking of Jan, whom I really respect, but nonetheless, he says rando's aren't racing but that's what they are doing. I stopped racing wy back in '92-it was time. It took a while to get it out of my blood. I still like going fast, but when I ride a century or a double metric, I make sure there is a lot of fun mixed in. If I want to snap a pic I do it. Were are all going to end up in the same place eventually. Think it will matter who got there first? (just a litl joke!). On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Noel emiller3...@gmail.com wrote: A one pound weight difference in a frame actually indicates a fairly significant difference in tubing thickness. Speaking only for myself, significant differences in tubing thicknesses make for significant differences in ride quality. Now, I don't exactly agree
Re: [RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Really like the WTB Devo/Deva. Only difference is screen printing AFAIK. Plus the added benefit of titanium rails, so you'll be faster, better rested, and undoubtedly smell better. http://www.wtb.com/products/saddles/racing/devo/ On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:17 AM, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough. I think part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I mostly ride as a commuter. When I ride more for sport and can shift my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it should be. I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a $175 saddle on the bike. Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles? On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose tipped up? From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please. Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Not sure I'd want to leave a Brooks outside in NYC either! I've heard good things about WTB saddles - and they make a pretty wide variety, so finding a good fit should be possible. Many of them come in a simple black design, which would look ok. Some other designs are too flashy for my tastes. I haven't tried them myself, but I'm seriously considering it if it can't get my Brooks to work for me pretty soon! -Pete On Nov 22, 10:17 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough. I think part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I mostly ride as a commuter. When I ride more for sport and can shift my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it should be. I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a $175 saddle on the bike. Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles? On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose tipped up? From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please. Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
I've had good luck with some Specialized Body Geometry saddles -- Avatar Gel for sport (comes in different widths), and the Milano (also comes in a gel version) for commuting/upright riding. -- Forrest (Iowa City) On Nov 22, 9:41 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure I'd want to leave a Brooks outside in NYC either! I've heard good things about WTB saddles - and they make a pretty wide variety, so finding a good fit should be possible. Many of them come in a simple black design, which would look ok. Some other designs are too flashy for my tastes. I haven't tried them myself, but I'm seriously considering it if it can't get my Brooks to work for me pretty soon! -Pete On Nov 22, 10:17 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough. I think part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I mostly ride as a commuter. When I ride more for sport and can shift my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it should be. I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a $175 saddle on the bike. Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles? On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose tipped up? From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please. Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Some shops may have the WTB Test Ride Program, which is basically a collection of specially-marked and loaner saddles that you can try before you buy. We have sold a lot of WTB saddles this way. The two most popular are the Rocket (narrow-ish) and the Pure (wider, similar dimensions to a B17). All the WTB saddles have a channel or a slot of some kind. On Nov 22, 9:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
I have just spent a bit of time on WTB Pure V. It was very comfortable and cheap. The problem with it is that waist” is wide. The saddle always felt big between my legs. I looked at other WTB saddles and the wide mid section seems to be part of the design. Still, it is worth a try. If a Brooks didn’t feel wide, then I don’t thing that it will be an issue. I ended up on a Selle San Marco Rolls. Bill On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
What about a B17 Imperial. You get to stay with the Brooks and you get the slot. I find the Imperial comfortable right out of the box. On Nov 22, 10:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650B Ourson closeouts
For those of you in the 650B camp or are B-curious, Jan/Compass is closing out the Ourson tires. Basically Col de la Vie tires with a lighter/folding casing. Sounds like a great tire for mixed terrain rides! http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/closeout-grand-bois-ourson-650b-x-36-mm-tires/ -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] mixte tandem!
On SF CL, there's a french mixte tandem for $650: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/2074149973.html Doesn't say who build the bike or the size, but at that price, it might be a decent deal. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: today's ride (alt. title: fenders are good!)
Eric: You gotta plan ahead; think about late January / early February, when the excitement of the holidays has worn off, the snow is just a nuisance, and it's a slog to Spring. I couldn't possible write that after the New Year without stirring up all sorts of trouble. My touring bud from St Paul and his wife spend January in Mexico, an excellent strategy IMHO. You don't have to go to that extent but a week bike tour somewhere that's not freezing after a couple of months of winter sounds theraputic to me. And list members always have built in riding partners when they travel. dougP On Nov 22, 3:29 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Since this is the topic - in cooler weather, a wool long sleeve tee with either a short or no sleeve tee on top. Then either a windbreaker or heavy wool shirt on top. Depends on the weather. Have a couple of old Filson shirts that are good for that. And even better, an old Bemidji Woolen Mills shirt-jac that is almost overkill until the temps are in the low 20's. Legs - often MUSA pants with wool not so tights underneath. Sometimes a pair of knickers with tall wool ski socks. Have some Swobo knickers and they work. But have just about worn them out after two to three years. BTW, do have two Swobo jerseys, and one is way too short. Only works as a top layer now. Don't want to be mistaken for a plumber on the bike. And yeah David, a trip out there would be nice. Ain't happening anytime soon. Too many other irons in the fire right now. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 22, 3:55 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Similarly, on a ride which ranged from 53F - 71F over 100Km, a l/s light Ibex baselayer under a Joneswares s/s jersey. Joneswares shorts, thin wool socks. Not cold enough for wool gloves, but if it were, Ibex for cool, and JC Penny for cold. I wore a wind jacket for about the 1st hour, then no longer needed it. Packed one a couple of weeks ago when we climbed Mt Cheaha as well. Going uphill the effort was plenty to keep warm, but coming downhill in the cold with a sweaty kit on necessitated some wind protection. Swobo is very good too, especially some of the older stuff. From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 11:56:04 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: today's ride (alt. title: fenders are good!) That said, I wear Swobo wool jersies year round. They're perfect _for me_ in the heat of the summer and the chill of the fall and winter (hey, it was 56F today!). A SS jersey is fine for 3/4 of the year. I don't ride when it's pouring, only drizzling, and that is pretty rare in itself. Today's ride was a bit more than that, and I wasn't really planning on getting too wet. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] mixte tandem!
That is the coolest design ever! Anyone know if there are downsides to a frame built like that? Is it super flexy or overbuilt to reduce flexiness? Tough enough for bouncing around on trails/fire roads??? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote: On SF CL, there's a french mixte tandem for $650: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/2074149973.html Doesn't say who build the bike or the size, but at that price, it might be a decent deal. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: today's ride (alt. title: fenders are good!)
Kelly: Here's the Riv site link on the topic: http://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/all_you_need_is_wool Lots of good stuff in that read about... area. Wool dosen't stink (a real plus when touring) and is the Schwalbe Marathon of fabrics. I have a medium weight LS wool jersety that must be 25 years old. It made it a good 20 before the moths got too aggressive. dougP On Nov 21, 4:02 pm, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: David, if you get time write up something for us newbies on wool. What do you use and how do you use it. :) Kelly On Nov 21, 4:33 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: It started like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5196487396/ and ended like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5195888379/ With rain, sleet and hail in between. Two layers of wool did their job and kept me a happy cycler for the day! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] mixte tandem!
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That is the coolest design ever! Anyone know if there are downsides to a frame built like that? Is it super flexy or overbuilt to reduce flexiness? Tough enough for bouncing around on trails/fire roads??? I suspect that is either a peugeot or a gitane tandem. We had one much like it. The problem wasn't the design so much as the tubing. Our gitane was. flexy. I think the best way I've heard it described is: each rider corners one at a time. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] mixte tandem!
That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and not crazy flexy... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That is the coolest design ever! Anyone know if there are downsides to a frame built like that? Is it super flexy or overbuilt to reduce flexiness? Tough enough for bouncing around on trails/fire roads??? I suspect that is either a peugeot or a gitane tandem. We had one much like it. The problem wasn't the design so much as the tubing. Our gitane was. flexy. I think the best way I've heard it described is: each rider corners one at a time. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] mixte tandem!
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and not crazy flexy... speaking of bilenky - seen the new issue of BQ? http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/currentissue.html check out the review. I'm looking forward to when my copy shows up here. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] DIY bike stand for the Quickbeam
The rains arrived in the Bay Area this weekend and scuttled my road and trail plans. But instead of cleaning chains or re-shellacing bars, I headed into my friend and riding partner's workshop to dream up a bike stand for the Quickbeam. It was a fun project and seems to be working out well. Feel free to e-mail me if you want any details on them, but they really are as simple as the pictures show: http://tinyurl.com/2b6krgb Here's to giving thanks, Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
My preference is the WTB Pure V saddle as an alternate to Brooks. The all leather Team version is very comfortable to sit in and has a middle channel to minimize pressure under there. Another is the Selle Italia Flite Max, both are farily wide, but not as wide as the B17 . ~Mike~ On Nov 22, 8:49 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Some shops may have the WTB Test Ride Program, which is basically a collection of specially-marked and loaner saddles that you can try before you buy. We have sold a lot of WTB saddles this way. The two most popular are the Rocket (narrow-ish) and the Pure (wider, similar dimensions to a B17). All the WTB saddles have a channel or a slot of some kind. On Nov 22, 9:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS- INUJIRUSHI handlebar bag
So far no one has contacted me so if I don't hear today I'll throw it on Ebay tonight. ~Mike~ On Nov 21, 5:07 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I bought this six months ago but haven't used it. Brand new khaki Inujirushi bag in smaller size, measurements are (W: 250 mm X H: 220 mm X D: 170 mm). Cost $210 new. I'll sell it for $170 plus shipping. here is a picture.http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/5196321215/in/photostream/ contact me off line if you are interested. ~Mike~ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: mixte tandem!
Is that issue out yet? I have not seen it. Looks like some interesting subjects. I'd love to have a Bilenky tandem, not sure I'd use it enough to warrant the cost though. ~Mike~ On Nov 22, 9:58 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and not crazy flexy... speaking of bilenky - seen the new issue of BQ? http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/currentissue.html check out the review. I'm looking forward to when my copy shows up here. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] mixte tandem!
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and not crazy flexy... speaking of bilenky - seen the new issue of BQ? http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/currentissue.html check out the review. I'm looking forward to when my copy shows up here. -sv -- That plus the Nobilette/Rene Herse review. I've been wondering about those bikes, hoping they come out on top and make a name for themselves. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: mixte tandem!
Scroll down below the tandem to find there is an article on bike handling, including a geometry discusson and examination of shimmy. Due to mail 11/29; expect a busy early December on this forum! dougP On Nov 22, 9:58 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and not crazy flexy... speaking of bilenky - seen the new issue of BQ? http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/currentissue.html check out the review. I'm looking forward to when my copy shows up here. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters
It seems like the shifter is working now! :) Almost too embarrassing to tell how it went. I never got the shifting adjusted while the bike was in the stand (actually 2 different stands). Trust me, I tried everything. That’s why I never tried it loaded - the shifting seemed far too nasty for that. Then I went for a ride today and headed to the hills nearby. I was riding with friction shifting, but thought I’d try the indexing just for fun for those gears that worked. I actually read the link that Eddie mailed (Thanks Eddie!). The article said “Most bikes shift differently in the stand than they do under load.” So I gave it a try. To my great surprise, the shifting was completely different under load. So I actually got the shifting adjusted so that it works fine on all gears. It was much easier than while the bike was in the stand. I couldn’t hear any noise or anything from the gears. But it was very windy and hard to hear anything, so we’ll see. All the gears seemed to be allright though. It’s still a mystery to me why it didn’t work in the stand, but I guess it’s two completely different things to use it under load or unloaded. Thanks for all the help! If you have any reflections around this, please let me know. Regards, Juhani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
Well, thanks all for the responses. My conclusion is this: The SimpleTwo is a reasonable notion. It definitely goes on the list of potential bike-y projects for me. It may be before or after or instead of or pre-empted by a mixte (still thinking about Betty as the Next Bike Thing). But I can enjoy chewing on both notions for a while. I certainly understand the concern at least one person expressed over relying solely on the hub (and therefore the chain) for braking. But if I curate (heh heh) a SimpleTwo, and if the SimpleOne is produced as a non-canti bike, I'd definitely get a S2C hub (S2 is the duomatic designation; C suffix indicates coaster brake) and try it without any rim brakes at some point. Canti studs might gnaw at me aesthetically too much, so I might not even bother to try it rim-brake-less if it is a canti-studded bike. But it seems that the Sturmey-Archer folks are pricing the S2* hubs such that getting a coaster-wheel built-up only to discover I don't like it would not be a horrible cost overrun. I'd sure love to ride a nice comfortable versatile bike with nothing but bars in the cockpit. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Nov 22, 1:20 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I found the same thing. My Sachs Automatic (same gear spread as the S- A kickback hub) is just less groovy-feeling than riding fixed. Philip Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com On Nov 21, 3:33 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I found that I preferred the feel of fixed gear riding on the Quickbeam. The S-A hub works quite nicely, and it would be a boon for touring or for riders who don't like to push quite so hard to get over the hills. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Will M wrote: I know there have been a number of successful Quickbeam internally- geared hub conversions discussed on this list. The one that inspired me most is by Eric Norris (post =http://bit.ly/9gyfnB;pics= http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4225472677). But Eric switched back to singlespeed and sold the Sturmey-Archer. (post =http://bit.ly/9amjYM) Wonder why. On Nov 21, 10:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the
Re: [RBW] Ride Report - Early thoughts on AAH
on 11/21/10 4:01 PM, Kelly at tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I started a thread awhile back asking or stating I thought I would lose 2 or 3 miles per hour. I started another thread on Bicycle Lifestyle How important is speed or some such garbage. Then as reading the Simpleone thread here it looks like it was vearing off into weight and ride quality etc. (snipped) Thanks for sharing all that - it's always a good thing to get fresh impressions. I know it always makes me revisit some of my theories and opinions. One thing I have noticed - particularly since I switch back and forth mostly between my Quickbeam and Hilsen - is that it takes a few rides before I feel fast... (or maybe not slower...) on whatever bicycle I have not ridden. They are set up pretty closely, but there are differences which exist. The more miles I log consistently on one, the more rides it takes on the other until I again feel dialed. It's actually a very subtle difference, and it is not that the new one feels bad. It's that after a long ride, or a couple rides, it suddenly feels even better. What I'm indirectly getting at is that you've made a bunch of changes in position and contact points with your bicycle, and any muscle memory you had is with respect to your other bikes. I'd expect that as you log more time with your Hilsen, you may find that you gain some efficiencies...or maybe more appropriately...familiarities with your new rig. So, keep riding and enjoy! Thanks again for relating the adventure! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - Send them here - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and rode several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew, and went in. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bar-end Cable Routing?
Have to admit, I'd not seen the BE shifters all the way out w/ the brakes before; I like it, though. Might try that on my next bike. On the Ram, what I did was put the first part of the housing from the BE shifter under the tape, right to where it starts to arc up to the brake levers; I didn't want the cable loose down there low on the drops, but didn't think about having it go up and out w/ the brake cables. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407872650/in/photostream/ I did lash the cables down w/ some twine, though... made use of a lot of twine, actually, to stabilize the tape a lot more. I like it, I'd do it again, but... on the next one, I might want to avoid interference with a possible front bag, so, coming on up w/ the brake cables might be an idea for me to consider -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Another suggestion for WTB saddles. I just put a Speed V (their cheapest saddle) from a town bike i sold on my road bike and discovered that it's quite comfortable for long rides. No pressure on the nether regions. I've never ridden a Brooks for anything more than a hundred yards or so I can't compare. On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] my new favorite photo...
...in case you missed it. http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3859/splatmilo505_3.jpg or scroll right on: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/musa-splats-pair/60-053 Classic, Keven! But what's Milo going to say to you about this in a dozen years?!? ;-) cheers, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters
I have never had quite that dramatic and experience from the stand to the road under load, but guessing, trial and error have both been a big part of my learning about bikes. The net is a wonderful thing. On Nov 22, 10:28 am, Juhani juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like the shifter is working now! :) Almost too embarrassing to tell how it went. I never got the shifting adjusted while the bike was in the stand (actually 2 different stands). Trust me, I tried everything. That’s why I never tried it loaded - the shifting seemed far too nasty for that. Then I went for a ride today and headed to the hills nearby. I was riding with friction shifting, but thought I’d try the indexing just for fun for those gears that worked. I actually read the link that Eddie mailed (Thanks Eddie!). The article said “Most bikes shift differently in the stand than they do under load.” So I gave it a try. To my great surprise, the shifting was completely different under load. So I actually got the shifting adjusted so that it works fine on all gears. It was much easier than while the bike was in the stand. I couldn’t hear any noise or anything from the gears. But it was very windy and hard to hear anything, so we’ll see. All the gears seemed to be allright though. It’s still a mystery to me why it didn’t work in the stand, but I guess it’s two completely different things to use it under load or unloaded. Thanks for all the help! If you have any reflections around this, please let me know. Regards, Juhani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
The most comfortable non-Brooks (style saddle) I own is a Specialized Romin. It's one of the few cut-out saddles I've tried which actually seem to succeed in relieving pressure. Also, the Romin comes in various widths, and if you go to a Specialized dealer you can ask to be measured on the ass-o-meter to determine which width you need. I got mine new on ebay for $70-something. I can ride my Brooks without padded bib-shorts (once they are broken in, it's better that way as I'm sure you know), but I don't ride synthetic saddles with-out. They're really meant to be used in conjunction with padded shorts. They ones that are not have way too much cushion and cause other problems. That being said, my Romin saddle with shorts is actually more comfortable than my Brooks with or with-out them - I bet you can accustom an un-padded butt to feel the same. I should mention, I use this saddle on my race bike, which has a very aggressive saddle to handlebar drop - and being a racing saddle that is what it is designed for. Maybe, you'll hate it in an upright position, but they are may be some other Specialized saddles which would work better, but still come in reasonable widths. Another thought, I feel that many people go way overboard with the uptilted angle on their Brooks. A one degree angle is enough to keep you from sliding forward, much more is counter productive. On Nov 22, 1:42 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Another suggestion for WTB saddles. I just put a Speed V (their cheapest saddle) from a town bike i sold on my road bike and discovered that it's quite comfortable for long rides. No pressure on the nether regions. I've never ridden a Brooks for anything more than a hundred yards or so I can't compare. On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: my new favorite photo...
The splats are probably a better deal if you have twins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DIY bike stand for the Quickbeam
Cute. Well done. I posted a smartaleck comment to the finished product. I'm going to be doing some bike storage infrastructure projects this winter as well, but it all looks like it will involve pulleys and hooks in the rafters of the garage. On Nov 22, 10:03 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: The rains arrived in the Bay Area this weekend and scuttled my road and trail plans. But instead of cleaning chains or re-shellacing bars, I headed into my friend and riding partner's workshop to dream up a bike stand for the Quickbeam. It was a fun project and seems to be working out well. Feel free to e-mail me if you want any details on them, but they really are as simple as the pictures show: http://tinyurl.com/2b6krgb Here's to giving thanks, Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: mixte tandem!
Dude, that Bilenky is just, dude. On Nov 22, 9:58 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and not crazy flexy... speaking of bilenky - seen the new issue of BQ? http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/currentissue.html check out the review. I'm looking forward to when my copy shows up here. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
I can't believe nobody has suggested just cutting out a hole in the brooks saddle. Isn't that what Grant would say and did say in one of those recent readers? a knife, courage and a hole my friend! james -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650B Ourson closeouts
I am so getting a pair. Or two. Ryan On Nov 22, 9:32 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you in the 650B camp or are B-curious, Jan/Compass is closing out the Ourson tires. Basically Col de la Vie tires with a lighter/folding casing. Sounds like a great tire for mixed terrain rides! http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/closeout-grand-bois-ourson-6... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650B Ourson closeouts
The Lierre that is replacing the Ourson looks pretty great, too. So many snazzy 650B tires to ride! On Nov 22, 1:03 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I am so getting a pair. Or two. Ryan On Nov 22, 9:32 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you in the 650B camp or are B-curious, Jan/Compass is closing out the Ourson tires. Basically Col de la Vie tires with a lighter/folding casing. Sounds like a great tire for mixed terrain rides! http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/closeout-grand-bois-ourson-6... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Curious bit of Rivendell History
I think GP wrote that he'd had a friend or acquaintance by that name, with that spelling. Maybe it was to that person. Roger (first time poster) On Nov 21, 8:41 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: If you have Rivendell Reader #33 from Fall of 2004, take a look at Page 3, the last two lines of text before the photos. It's a message from Grant that says, Confidential to Hunkapillar. If you're there, please contact. Nothing bad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Another vote from me for WTB, it's the closest i've found to the Brooks for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS- INUJIRUSHI handlebar bag
Mike, whay not put it on the CoHo? Just wondering, the bag looks great, but is there something about the design that you do not prefer and like in other bags? Rob - http://oceanaircycles.com/ On Nov 22, 8:17 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: So far no one has contacted me so if I don't hear today I'll throw it on Ebay tonight. ~Mike~ On Nov 21, 5:07 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I bought this six months ago but haven't used it. Brand new khaki Inujirushi bag in smaller size, measurements are (W: 250 mm X H: 220 mm X D: 170 mm). Cost $210 new. I'll sell it for $170 plus shipping. here is a picture.http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/5196321215/in/photostream/ contact me off line if you are interested. ~Mike~- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Splats - Flap?
Grant says I used Splats during the later rains of last year, and never had flappage I says no flappage, I am in on the Splats! Dave 'I love the word flappage' Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: grant grant...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:59:27 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Splats - Flap? When you adjust the back velcro snugly, the business end of the Splat assumes a curvature that stiffens it in the same way you can stiffen a sheet of paper by making a channel strong enough to roll some marbles down, or scoop dang sand. The fabric is the Stiff Scottish Stuff (3S) that starts with more substance than, say, seersucker. I used Splats during the later rains of last year, and never had flappage, even though the design might suggest it. I considered nipping the suggestion in the bud with another strap on the toe-end t hat could T into the arch strap, but that complicates construction and addresses a problem that's more in one's head than on one's foot. Splats are as simple as they can be made. They beg to be complicated in the name of improved, but I like them just the way they are. They're made with rich-man's fabric by a USA minifacturer, and they're still only $28. They repel a certain number of people because they look so funny, and shoe fetishists won't go for them, or fashionistas, and most females won't, either (if I can call that a prediction instead of a generalization, I may be able to get away with it). I predict two things: 1. We'll sell 50 pair before the end of the year, with no impact whatsoever to our financial well-being, but maybe some fashion demerits and damage to our classy reputation. 2. Within two years a slicker, more commercial version will appear, fulla features and widely accepted and available. A local guy commutes 60 miles a day by motorcycle. He's going to try them out, and may experience some flappage. At bike-riding speeds---so far, no problem! On Nov 21, 10:38 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: After yesterday's rainy ride I'm pondering these things. Anybody got splats? Do the toes flap? What keeps the toe portion down? I see by the photos on Riv's www site that Splats are dual purpose; they make fine bibs. -JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS- INUJIRUSHI handlebar bag
It's a very nice bag, well made and the right size. I decided I'd rather have black bags and not use a decaleur. The Berthoud I ordered has a full leather bottom so I was going to use some clips on the rack with knurled nuts on the inside of the bag ot attach it. Something I saw on one of JP Weigle's Flickr bikes. ~Mike~ On Nov 22, 1:26 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Mike, whay not put it on the CoHo? Just wondering, the bag looks great, but is there something about the design that you do not prefer and like in other bags? Rob -http://oceanaircycles.com/ On Nov 22, 8:17 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: So far no one has contacted me so if I don't hear today I'll throw it on Ebay tonight. ~Mike~ On Nov 21, 5:07 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I bought this six months ago but haven't used it. Brand new khaki Inujirushi bag in smaller size, measurements are (W: 250 mm X H: 220 mm X D: 170 mm). Cost $210 new. I'll sell it for $170 plus shipping. here is a picture.http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/5196321215/in/photostream/ contact me off line if you are interested. ~Mike~- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell Thanksgiving Hours
We are closed Thursday-Sunday, the 25th through the 28th, returning first thing Monday, the 29th. If you need anything for your weekend ride, come on by Wednesday; we're around until 5PM. Happy Thanksgiving. John and everyone here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr
Today's ride on the Quickbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/ --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:12 -0800, Eric Norris wrote: Today's ride on the Quickbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/ Nice panorama! I'm impressed that you took that with a phone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr
Thanks. The iPhone can take very nice photos when the conditions are right. And being in a scenery-rich environment doesn't hurt! --Eric N On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:12 -0800, Eric Norris wrote: Today's ride on the Quickbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/ Nice panorama! I'm impressed that you took that with a phone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:41 -0800, Eric Norris wrote: Does it provide panorama assist? And what stitching software did you use? I'm a big panorama fan, but generally I use it more to provide a field of view about like what I see with my eyes than a 180 degree wide view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr
Next time through you should stick some Resurrectio stickers on that boat. On Nov 22, 4:41 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Thanks. The iPhone can take very nice photos when the conditions are right. And being in a scenery-rich environment doesn't hurt! --Eric N On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:12 -0800, Eric Norris wrote: Today's ride on the Quickbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/ Nice panorama! I'm impressed that you took that with a phone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Seattle Snow Commute
I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 28F with 20 mph wind gusts and the melted snow rapidly turning to ice/crust. I had to remove the front fender half way through the ride as it kept jamming with snow and I grew tired of the extra effort pushing with rubbing snow. I just about lost it going over a bridge the first time the fender got clumped/locked up. Kind of like slamming on the front brake. After that, I just kicked the tire/fender every few minutes to knock the build-up off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625324064593/with/5199613957/ Overall, it added about 15 mins to my 10 mile commute, but I think I was going faster than most of the cars I saw on the road :) Riv content - this set has some fall commute pics of the Hilsen... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
WTB Laser V works for me. Been riding using that on the Fargo off and on for the past couple of months. Otherwise, I'll be the lone voice and advocate Terry saddles. Have a couple of them and rotate them in and out. Have to admit to a love/hate relationship this year with Brooks saddles. Love the look, but they have been terribly uncomfortable most the last half of the year. Tendency to put most of the weight on the rear rail being a big factor. Shall one say it became a sore issue? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 22, 1:08 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Another vote from me for WTB, it's the closest i've found to the Brooks for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Snow Commute
BAs in that snow? I salute you. (Sa-lute ala Hee Haw) Yeah, one learns to kick the fenders the dislodge snow/slush build up. Sometimes a quick wheelie will work too. Or just picking up the bike and slamming it back down at convenient stops. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 22, 7:33 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 28F with 20 mph wind gusts and the melted snow rapidly turning to ice/crust. I had to remove the front fender half way through the ride as it kept jamming with snow and I grew tired of the extra effort pushing with rubbing snow. I just about lost it going over a bridge the first time the fender got clumped/locked up. Kind of like slamming on the front brake. After that, I just kicked the tire/fender every few minutes to knock the build-up off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625324064593/with/519... Overall, it added about 15 mins to my 10 mile commute, but I think I was going faster than most of the cars I saw on the road :) Riv content - this set has some fall commute pics of the Hilsen... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
Hey guys. So I am having a bit of a dilema. Been riding my Bullmoose bars all week and my hands just arent agreeing with these. I am going to run either Porteur bars or Albatross or something similar with not a whole lot of rise not drop bars. There arent a whole lot of options these days as far as stems go. I believe what I want is a stem that has a bit of rise to it. This way I dont need to run a technomic raised all the way. I really like the Nitto Lugged stems and have thought about running a threadless Nitto with a Quill adapter. But that seems kinda silly. Another option I saw that I really liked was the Nitto Reversable stem but it looks like the only ones around are 60mm and those are $130..not that bad really but I think I need at least an 80mm, man these are so cool. Wish I could find an old Diamond Back MTB that had a similar stem stock on em also a nitto made item. I know about the Nitto Dirt Drop stems but honestly I find them a bit uglyis that silly of me? So the last thing I am contemplating is a Custom stem. If I get a custom stem made I would like to get something made that is similar to a lugged nitto, something that will match the personality of my frame and lugged seatpost I have. Any Ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
Call Rick Hunter~ Huntercycles.com He can build anything and is a great guy. - Frank On Nov 22, 9:51 pm, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys. So I am having a bit of a dilema. Been riding my Bullmoose bars all week and my hands just arent agreeing with these. I am going to run either Porteur bars or Albatross or something similar with not a whole lot of rise not drop bars. There arent a whole lot of options these days as far as stems go. I believe what I want is a stem that has a bit of rise to it. This way I dont need to run a technomic raised all the way. I really like the Nitto Lugged stems and have thought about running a threadless Nitto with a Quill adapter. But that seems kinda silly. Another option I saw that I really liked was the Nitto Reversable stem but it looks like the only ones around are 60mm and those are $130..not that bad really but I think I need at least an 80mm, man these are so cool. Wish I could find an old Diamond Back MTB that had a similar stem stock on em also a nitto made item. I know about the Nitto Dirt Drop stems but honestly I find them a bit uglyis that silly of me? So the last thing I am contemplating is a Custom stem. If I get a custom stem made I would like to get something made that is similar to a lugged nitto, something that will match the personality of my frame and lugged seatpost I have. Any Ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr
Very nice! Are you using Pano? I've been very pleased with that app. Rob in Seattle, where it's 23º and snowing. On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Eric Norris wrote: Today's ride on the Quickbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/ --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
Second Rick Hunter. I don't know of any other custom builders that will do a quill stem... and only a stem without a frame. The Nitto Dirt Drop looks great in my opinion. I like it better than a Techno Deluxe. Give it a try, you can always sell it on the forum! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
The Ideal stem would be a Lugged quill Nitto stem with rise at least 80mm. I will check out Rick Hunter. thanks for the tip folks. Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr
I use an app called AutoStitch. I merges photos you have taken with the camera--it will even work with several rows to create a taller image. --Eric N On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:41 -0800, Eric Norris wrote: Does it provide panorama assist? And what stitching software did you use? I'm a big panorama fan, but generally I use it more to provide a field of view about like what I see with my eyes than a 180 degree wide view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 47 cm Atlantis finds new home
Doug, congrats on the good deal, i saw this on CL for months and figured it wasn't moving due to the size, glad someone got it who could appreciate it. On Nov 21, 12:15 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Rob: My not so li'l bro likes heavy duty everything. I pointed him to the Hunq he said that's my kinda bike. Now, if he'll just pry open his wallet... My wife was a little bit nervous the Atlantis might be heavier than her aluminum Trek, so I weighed both in her presence. 22 lbs each, sans any racks or sacks. Thank the 26 wheels shod with 1 tires on the Atlantis vs the 700c Matrix ISO rims with 28 mm Pasela Tourgards on the Trek. Those 1 tires have got to go; I get nervous looking at them. dougP On Nov 21, 7:10 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Cool deal Doug, so now you guys have matching bikes? ;) It sounds like karma pooints for bragging on the versitility justa few days before. Now you need to find one at a garage sale for your brother. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com On Nov 20, 3:01 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Cyclotourist spotted a 47 cm Atlantis in the LA CL and forwarded it to several So Cal locals. My wife takes a very small frame and this sounded interesting, even though she wasn't looking for a new bike. Well, we just got home with a barely ridden (my guess is 03 or 04) Atlantis in standard Riv build. The gal we bought it from listed it for $1200 for quick sale and somehow we were lucky enough to be the first serious inquiry. The bike is so nice was such a deal I didn't have the heart to even make a lower offer. We feel truly lucky to have scored this one. dougP- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 47 cm Atlantis finds new home
I almost bought this bike just cause the price seemed soo right. It would have been a bit small for my wife, I would have just flipped the frame and bought a correct sized one. Glad I held off cause seems like it worked out perfect for you. It was crazy that it was on CL for so long at that crazy price. Everytime she posted it I had to hold back from emailing her and setting up the buy. Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Snow Commute
Good for you, Brian! It's fun to ride in the snow. I went down hard on black ice a couple of winters ago, so decided to invest in Schwalbe Marathon Winters - the carbide studs work great. They come in 26x1..75, so they'll fit your Miyata. Don't need them too often around here, but when you need them, you really need them. Might use them a fair amount this winter . . . Didn't take pics today, but here they are on my old Rain City MTB, now turned adventure tourer (and winter commuter.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/4338979343/in/set-72157623375460150/ Alex Moll Marysville, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
As others have mentioned, Rick Hunter. Tony Pereira makes beautiful stems, but I don't know what his backlog is like. Ditto Bruce Gordon, though he does list both stock and custom sizes on his website. Old mtb stems may be a different diameter at the bars - you'd want to confirm that. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Snow Commute
I had seven miles each way. Funnest commute ever. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/sets/72157625324703389/ Ryan On Nov 22, 5:33 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 28F with 20 mph wind gusts and the melted snow rapidly turning to ice/crust. I had to remove the front fender half way through the ride as it kept jamming with snow and I grew tired of the extra effort pushing with rubbing snow. I just about lost it going over a bridge the first time the fender got clumped/locked up. Kind of like slamming on the front brake. After that, I just kicked the tire/fender every few minutes to knock the build-up off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625324064593/with/519... Overall, it added about 15 mins to my 10 mile commute, but I think I was going faster than most of the cars I saw on the road :) Riv content - this set has some fall commute pics of the Hilsen... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget about the paint. I vote blue bar tape. Ryan On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 47 cm Atlantis finds new home
It must have been the size that kept it from selling. My wife is 5'-2 but has short legs. Even with the tiny tires she doesn't have a lot of clearance. Next to my 58 her bike looks like a toy. OTH, it'll be a heck of a lot easier to pack up ship for a tour! James Black had a silver Tubus Fly on his Nishiki at our last So Cal Riv ride. I'm thinking that rack would look way cool on the mini- lantis. dougP On Nov 22, 7:31 pm, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: I almost bought this bike just cause the price seemed soo right. It would have been a bit small for my wife, I would have just flipped the frame and bought a correct sized one. Glad I held off cause seems like it worked out perfect for you. It was crazy that it was on CL for so long at that crazy price. Everytime she posted it I had to hold back from emailing her and setting up the buy. Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
how about a salsa sul quill. price is decent...and you could have it powdered the color of your choice. thought they were being manufactured again, but could be wrong about that. I'd bet one of the most cost effective customs would come from Doug Curtis at Curtlo. On Nov 22, 7:36 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: As others have mentioned, Rick Hunter. Tony Pereira makes beautiful stems, but I don't know what his backlog is like. Ditto Bruce Gordon, though he does list both stock and custom sizes on his website. Old mtb stems may be a different diameter at the bars - you'd want to confirm that. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
I'd strongly recommend getting a standard stem with a ton of adjustability until you have you pain situation cleared up and only after that is dialed then invest the big $$$ in a stem that has the look you want. There are few things more frustrating than taking a wild guess on a custom stem, then finding out it's still not right, and dealing with pain because you can't justify removing it, and then after months of suffering you finally take it off and then after years of having it rattle around your parts box you sell it for 10 cents on the dollar. But if you guess that a dirt drop might be the right ballpark shape and then dial in the fit, then you can specify exactly the custom you want. You'll easily be able to sell a used dirt drop to one of us for between half and 75% of retail. On Nov 22, 6:51 pm, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys. So I am having a bit of a dilema. Been riding my Bullmoose bars all week and my hands just arent agreeing with these. I am going to run either Porteur bars or Albatross or something similar with not a whole lot of rise not drop bars. There arent a whole lot of options these days as far as stems go. I believe what I want is a stem that has a bit of rise to it. This way I dont need to run a technomic raised all the way. I really like the Nitto Lugged stems and have thought about running a threadless Nitto with a Quill adapter. But that seems kinda silly. Another option I saw that I really liked was the Nitto Reversable stem but it looks like the only ones around are 60mm and those are $130..not that bad really but I think I need at least an 80mm, man these are so cool. Wish I could find an old Diamond Back MTB that had a similar stem stock on em also a nitto made item. I know about the Nitto Dirt Drop stems but honestly I find them a bit uglyis that silly of me? So the last thing I am contemplating is a Custom stem. If I get a custom stem made I would like to get something made that is similar to a lugged nitto, something that will match the personality of my frame and lugged seatpost I have. Any Ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget about the paint. I vote blue bar tape. Ryan On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Thanks to the list for tihs tip
I was web crawling on the topic of ultra-compact double cranksets last night and found this post from list member benzzoy last March: I don't particularly like the look of the Davinci or the TA Carmina cranks. I do love Campagnolo's last generation Record/Chorus triples, that were unfortunately discontinued. These cranks are sleek, beautifully finished (polished and anodized) and can be had rather cheaply ($100 for a NOS) if one is patient on eBay. The Q-factor is not more than 160mm and that isn't unreasonably wide for a triple. About the only significant blemish is that they usually come in a 53/42/30 configuration that I understand isn't terribly useful for some (including myself, for the most part). Nevertheless, at $100, you can get whatever chainrings* you wish at Ribble and still be below $200 total, especially if you sell the originals as these can fetch at least $40 on eBay when new. Another complicating factor is that these cranks use the ISO taper and the spindle is asymmetrical, so you either have to use the correct Campagnolo or Phil's version. Even accounting for the essentially proprietary and thus rather expensive bottom bracket, the total bill is still a reasonable $300 or whereabouts for the crank, bottom bracket and . As it happens, I had found an NOS Campy record Triple crank in my preferred 172.5 length a few months ago on a closeout table at the local Performance. I didn't have an immediate plan for it, but couldn't pass it by at $50 (!). Without the above post, I never would have found a reasonably priced 46 tooth 135 mm inner ring for that crank. But with the above tip, and a closeout price on the increasingly scarce Campy assymetrical 111 mm bottom bracket, I'll have put together a very pretty 46-30 compact double for around $170 complete. It will either find a home on a friend's Kogswell P58, or on a new 650b project I'm thinking about taking on. Thanks, benzzoy! Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
That is actually very sensible of you to recommend. Should have thought of that myself.Thank You.. Will On Nov 22, 8:14 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'd strongly recommend getting a standard stem with a ton of adjustability until you have you pain situation cleared up and only after that is dialed then invest the big $$$ in a stem that has the look you want. There are few things more frustrating than taking a wild guess on a custom stem, then finding out it's still not right, and dealing with pain because you can't justify removing it, and then after months of suffering you finally take it off and then after years of having it rattle around your parts box you sell it for 10 cents on the dollar. But if you guess that a dirt drop might be the right ballpark shape and then dial in the fit, then you can specify exactly the custom you want. You'll easily be able to sell a used dirt drop to one of us for between half and 75% of retail. On Nov 22, 6:51 pm, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys. So I am having a bit of a dilema. Been riding my Bullmoose bars all week and my hands just arent agreeing with these. I am going to run either Porteur bars or Albatross or something similar with not a whole lot of rise not drop bars. There arent a whole lot of options these days as far as stems go. I believe what I want is a stem that has a bit of rise to it. This way I dont need to run a technomic raised all the way. I really like the Nitto Lugged stems and have thought about running a threadless Nitto with a Quill adapter. But that seems kinda silly. Another option I saw that I really liked was the Nitto Reversable stem but it looks like the only ones around are 60mm and those are $130..not that bad really but I think I need at least an 80mm, man these are so cool. Wish I could find an old Diamond Back MTB that had a similar stem stock on em also a nitto made item. I know about the Nitto Dirt Drop stems but honestly I find them a bit uglyis that silly of me? So the last thing I am contemplating is a Custom stem. If I get a custom stem made I would like to get something made that is similar to a lugged nitto, something that will match the personality of my frame and lugged seatpost I have. Any Ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Snow Commute
Only made it three blocks up to the corner store tonight...too cold to enjoy going much further (no snide comments from the cold weather list members...I moved here from Havre, MT where it's currently a balmy -2!). My winter bike is a RockCombo with fat 26 wheels and 700c fenders. Lots of clearance which you can see in this pic from our last big snow storm in 2008. Hope to get out for a bit tomorrow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/3126870205/ Rob Markwardt Seattle On Nov 22, 7:50 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I had seven miles each way. Funnest commute ever.http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/sets/72157625324703389/ Ryan On Nov 22, 5:33 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 28F with 20 mph wind gusts and the melted snow rapidly turning to ice/crust. I had to remove the front fender half way through the ride as it kept jamming with snow and I grew tired of the extra effort pushing with rubbing snow. I just about lost it going over a bridge the first time the fender got clumped/locked up. Kind of like slamming on the front brake. After that, I just kicked the tire/fender every few minutes to knock the build-up off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625324064593/with/519... Overall, it added about 15 mins to my 10 mile commute, but I think I was going faster than most of the cars I saw on the road :) Riv content - this set has some fall commute pics of the Hilsen... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ Brian Seattle, WA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
I've tried a couple of WTB saddles (Vigo and Pure V), and while they're OK, neither completely got rid of my soft tissue discomfort. Two that do work for me are a Specialized Alias on my go-fast, and the wider Terry Liberator Y Gelissimo. For a B17 replacement, I'd recommend the Terry. its gel layer is firm enough to not feel squishy, and the cutout is well placed to relieve the pressure that causes me pain. BTW, I have slotted a B17 and a Flyer, and that does help. My process: Start with a 1/2 drill to enlarge the existing vent holes, drill more holes in between and (for my anatomy) one more hole forward of the forward hole, then trim out the waste with a razor knife. A sharp vegetable peeler works well as a skiver to smooth and shape the edge of the cutout. Ride it, see where you still have contact with the edges, and trim to suit. If you reach underneath and give yourself a poke, you may be amazed at how much flesh extends through the hole - all that was getting crushed before You might want to wait until the neighbors aren't looking to try that. Burnish the raw cut edge with some Proofide and the round shaft of a screwdriver. If the saddle wants to sag too much, drill a few holes along the bottom edge and lace it up with a leather shoelace. Bill On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Snow Commute
Now here's a testament to the bike commute. I just talked with a co-worker who left before me to take the bus (faster than cars in weather like this), and she just got home 5 minutes ago. Granted she went 25 miles to my 10, but 5 hours vs. 1 hour. Yikes... Brian (happy to be a biker) Hanson On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:39 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote: Only made it three blocks up to the corner store tonight...too cold to enjoy going much further (no snide comments from the cold weather list members...I moved here from Havre, MT where it's currently a balmy -2!). My winter bike is a RockCombo with fat 26 wheels and 700c fenders. Lots of clearance which you can see in this pic from our last big snow storm in 2008. Hope to get out for a bit tomorrow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/3126870205/ Rob Markwardt Seattle On Nov 22, 7:50 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I had seven miles each way. Funnest commute ever. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/sets/72157625324703389/ Ryan On Nov 22, 5:33 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 28F with 20 mph wind gusts and the melted snow rapidly turning to ice/crust. I had to remove the front fender half way through the ride as it kept jamming with snow and I grew tired of the extra effort pushing with rubbing snow. I just about lost it going over a bridge the first time the fender got clumped/locked up. Kind of like slamming on the front brake. After that, I just kicked the tire/fender every few minutes to knock the build-up off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625324064593/with/519. .. Overall, it added about 15 mins to my 10 mile commute, but I think I was going faster than most of the cars I saw on the road :) Riv content - this set has some fall commute pics of the Hilsen... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ Brian Seattle, WA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
I have found the long-discontinued Avocet O2 women's saddle works great for my offroad bike. It has a flat back and a mid-profile dip like the B17. It is a bit wider and shorter than the B17 but works well for my butt. For reference, I am 6ft, 195lbs, 34 inch waisted pants. I hesitated to mention this one, as I am looking for a second one for backup, and I don't to bid against all of you on ebay! Along that same line, anyone have a Women's O2 saddle they want to sell. Steel or Ti would be great. On Nov 22, 8:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
I have two of the so called men's Ti O2 as my go fast saddle inventory. I know what you mean about reluctance to share your secrets. On Nov 22, 8:54 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I have found the long-discontinued Avocet O2 women's saddle works great for my offroad bike. It has a flat back and a mid-profile dip like the B17. It is a bit wider and shorter than the B17 but works well for my butt. For reference, I am 6ft, 195lbs, 34 inch waisted pants. I hesitated to mention this one, as I am looking for a second one for backup, and I don't to bid against all of you on ebay! Along that same line, anyone have a Women's O2 saddle they want to sell. Steel or Ti would be great. On Nov 22, 8:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hey there, I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look good w/ my Atlantis. Thanks so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 47 cm Atlantis finds new home
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 19:56, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: James Black had a silver Tubus Fly on his Nishiki at our last So Cal Riv ride. I'm thinking that rack would look way cool on the mini- lantis. It's a great rack, but watch the tire clearance if you want to go with fatties and fenders - mine just barely fits over the 50mm-wide fenders. Clearance should be better with 26 wheels. Congrats on the new Atlantis! James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
I'd not worry about trying put a disc brake on the bike. They stop just fine with either a canti or liniar brake. On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget about the paint. I vote blue bar tape. Ryan On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Fai Mao The Blogger who sometimes responds to comments -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
thanks guys, wierd duh moment for me tonite, for some reason it never registered to me that i could run side-pulls or canti's on this. I stared at the frame tonite for a few minutes wondering why grant built a canti bike without the cable stop in the rear before i realized that i could use side-pulls if i wanted to, i guess this is one of the earlier taiwan frames. i think i'll still run cantis as i'd rather use the studs then leave them unused. i'm a little paranoid about the exposed brake cable on the top tube, don't worry or run housing in the center? On Nov 22, 11:24 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget about the paint. I vote blue bar tape. Ryan On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
Don't worry! :-) Although Jagwire has a nice cable kit with a sheath for the exposed cable. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys, wierd duh moment for me tonite, for some reason it never registered to me that i could run side-pulls or canti's on this. I stared at the frame tonite for a few minutes wondering why grant built a canti bike without the cable stop in the rear before i realized that i could use side-pulls if i wanted to, i guess this is one of the earlier taiwan frames. i think i'll still run cantis as i'd rather use the studs then leave them unused. i'm a little paranoid about the exposed brake cable on the top tube, don't worry or run housing in the center? On Nov 22, 11:24 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget about the paint. I vote blue bar tape. Ryan On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
you can use those little rubber donuts to keep the cable away from the frame. Glad you are haapy with the new Hillborne. That was my 1st too. I've since sold it and have a green Rambuillet. I was very happy with the fit and ride of the Sam, not as much with the expanded top tube look. I do miss the tire clearance. ~Mike~ On Nov 22, 9:22 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Don't worry! :-) Although Jagwire has a nice cable kit with a sheath for the exposed cable. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys, wierd duh moment for me tonite, for some reason it never registered to me that i could run side-pulls or canti's on this. I stared at the frame tonite for a few minutes wondering why grant built a canti bike without the cable stop in the rear before i realized that i could use side-pulls if i wanted to, i guess this is one of the earlier taiwan frames. i think i'll still run cantis as i'd rather use the studs then leave them unused. i'm a little paranoid about the exposed brake cable on the top tube, don't worry or run housing in the center? On Nov 22, 11:24 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget about the paint. I vote blue bar tape. Ryan On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options,
[RBW] Re: Seattle Snow Commute
Chapeau Brian and Ryan on the snow commute! I bailed on the commute entirely and worked from home today and based on the traffic reports I was hearing alot of car and bus commuters wish they would have had your commute. Hope you get there and back safe and sound tomorrow, it was pretty icy in spots as I navigated on foot to the local pub and back this evening in W. Seattle. Just can pass up $3 pint nights ;-) Ryan On Nov 22, 8:52 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Now here's a testament to the bike commute. I just talked with a co-worker who left before me to take the bus (faster than cars in weather like this), and she just got home 5 minutes ago. Granted she went 25 miles to my 10, but 5 hours vs. 1 hour. Yikes... Brian (happy to be a biker) Hanson On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:39 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote: Only made it three blocks up to the corner store tonight...too cold to enjoy going much further (no snide comments from the cold weather list members...I moved here from Havre, MT where it's currently a balmy -2!). My winter bike is a RockCombo with fat 26 wheels and 700c fenders. Lots of clearance which you can see in this pic from our last big snow storm in 2008. Hope to get out for a bit tomorrow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/3126870205/ Rob Markwardt Seattle On Nov 22, 7:50 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I had seven miles each way. Funnest commute ever. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/sets/72157625324703389/ Ryan On Nov 22, 5:33 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 28F with 20 mph wind gusts and the melted snow rapidly turning to ice/crust. I had to remove the front fender half way through the ride as it kept jamming with snow and I grew tired of the extra effort pushing with rubbing snow. I just about lost it going over a bridge the first time the fender got clumped/locked up. Kind of like slamming on the front brake. After that, I just kicked the tire/fender every few minutes to knock the build-up off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625324064593/with/519. .. Overall, it added about 15 mins to my 10 mile commute, but I think I was going faster than most of the cars I saw on the road :) Riv content - this set has some fall commute pics of the Hilsen... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ Brian Seattle, WA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle Snow Commute
Most excellent priorities!!! On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:14 PM, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote: Chapeau Brian and Ryan on the snow commute! I bailed on the commute entirely and worked from home today and based on the traffic reports I was hearing alot of car and bus commuters wish they would have had your commute. Hope you get there and back safe and sound tomorrow, it was pretty icy in spots as I navigated on foot to the local pub and back this evening in W. Seattle. Just can pass up $3 pint nights ;-) Ryan On Nov 22, 8:52 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Now here's a testament to the bike commute. I just talked with a co-worker who left before me to take the bus (faster than cars in weather like this), and she just got home 5 minutes ago. Granted she went 25 miles to my 10, but 5 hours vs. 1 hour. Yikes... Brian (happy to be a biker) Hanson On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:39 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: Only made it three blocks up to the corner store tonight...too cold to enjoy going much further (no snide comments from the cold weather list members...I moved here from Havre, MT where it's currently a balmy -2!). My winter bike is a RockCombo with fat 26 wheels and 700c fenders. Lots of clearance which you can see in this pic from our last big snow storm in 2008. Hope to get out for a bit tomorrow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/3126870205/ Rob Markwardt Seattle On Nov 22, 7:50 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I had seven miles each way. Funnest commute ever. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/sets/72157625324703389/ Ryan On Nov 22, 5:33 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 28F with 20 mph wind gusts and the melted snow rapidly turning to ice/crust. I had to remove the front fender half way through the ride as it kept jamming with snow and I grew tired of the extra effort pushing with rubbing snow. I just about lost it going over a bridge the first time the fender got clumped/locked up. Kind of like slamming on the front brake. After that, I just kicked the tire/fender every few minutes to knock the build-up off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625324064593/with/519. .. Overall, it added about 15 mins to my 10 mile commute, but I think I was going faster than most of the cars I saw on the road :) Riv content - this set has some fall commute pics of the Hilsen... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5197783254/ Brian Seattle, WA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
I actually much prefer a cable hanger from the seatpost bolt (The WF Sams have a brazed on cable stop). However, the cable hanger included with my Sam didn't really fit, so I got the longer Surly with built in barrel adjuster. Very nice, though the new Nitto cable hanger Riv sells looks even nicer (but no barrel adjuster). Enjoy. Gernot On Nov 23, 12:04 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys, wierd duh moment for me tonite, for some reason it never registered to me that i could run side-pulls or canti's on this. I stared at the frame tonite for a few minutes wondering why grant built a canti bike without the cable stop in the rear before i realized that i could use side-pulls if i wanted to, i guess this is one of the earlier taiwan frames. i think i'll still run cantis as i'd rather use the studs then leave them unused. i'm a little paranoid about the exposed brake cable on the top tube, don't worry or run housing in the center? On Nov 22, 11:24 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget about the paint. I vote blue bar tape. Ryan On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve that. A new go-fast bike was not that appealing to me and the new Rivendell's like the AHH or Roadeo were more then i wanted to spend. The Hillborne looked like a good idea as i wanted to put a rack and fenders on mine, the canti brakes were a slight turn-off (i gave up canti's like 10 years ago!) But i got over this too, as an aside is anyone running the old magura hydraulic brakes on an Hillborne or Atlantis? I know this is counter to the spirit of the group but curious if anyone has done this. I have them on a mt bike only. Anyway i've been lurking for awhile hoping to pick up a Rambouillet, Atlantis, Bleriot etc but nothing in my size or i was too late. I finally picked up a Hillborne on ebay last week (yes the orange single tt one in the box on ebay last week--sorry if you were bidding against me, for the record his reserve price was almost his BIN price). I just got it today and i realized that this is actually the first new bike i've had to build up from scratch ever and it's by far the nicest one, the thought of putting it into the work-stand for the first time feels a little strange. One thing i will say, i know what Grant means about not quite as nice as AHH finish but perfectly fine nonetheless, there are some less then perfect paint areas (one spot on the top tube looks like they got some sediment in the paint, it's actually quite bad) it's the kind of thing that bothers you at first but then you realize there are a lot worse things in life but since i plan on riding this bike it's not the end of the world for me, the sparkly paint is nice. Sorry if there is not much point to this post, just excited to build up my first Rivendell bicycle. I'm a little worried about the size i got (went with 56, scared of the 60 and my PBH is low relative to height), but i'll see once i get wheels etc on the bike and whether i need to swap out stems etc. Now on to the important decisions like what color bar tape -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
