Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
Patrick, I hope you were able to get out for a ride today, and that you had a wonderful time. I posted in response to another posters suggestion to search for berto tire pressure. Doing so should turn up: http://www.bccclub.org/documents/Tireinflation.pdf. That article, or an earlier version of it which was published in Bicycling, seems to be the primary source for most, if not all, of the graphs, spreadsheets and apps dealing with tire pressure as a function of load and tire width that are all over over the internet and comprise a lot of what a google search for berto tire pressure turns up. In that article the author (Frank Berto) describes/defines tire drop, and asserts that ... the optimum inflation pressure for comfort and rolling resistance produces a Tire Drop of about 15% of W (the section width) The paper also presents graphs, derived from experiments with a variety of tires, that give tire pressure to produce 15% drop for various tire widths over a range of loads. It is those graphs that have been so widely embraced and repackaged. The paper does not describe or cite any testing or test results that support the assertion that optimal tire pressure results in 15% tire drop (and by inference vice versa). However, I suspect that there is or was some experimental basis for that assertion. The knowledge of the group being greater than mine, I think it is reasonable for me to inquire if anybody knows what Frank Berto's assertion about 15% tire drop being optimal is based on, and can point to some documentation of that basis. Also though I didn't state it well before, and probably still haven't, I think the question is perfectly logical. thnks Ted p.s. Berto's paper also states that ... Jan Heine thinks that inflation pressure is of relatively little importance and that the author (Berto) disagrees. I am fairly certain Jan's work is not where the 15% drop is optimal thing comes from. On Tay, April 8, 2014 3:02:5 3 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Och, Ted! Your Google skills no doubt are fine. But why seek evidence of something that is logically incomplete? The optimum temperature is a 15% drop. Spread that around at all the rides you do and see if people start to believe you, to the point that in winter they ride in a tank top to compensate for temperatures that are 15% too warm for them to ride optimally. Sardonic grin. Logical inference: someone read an article (possibly Jan's) on the testing of tire pressure and rolling resistance, and due to poor grasp of logic and reason remembered that concept in relation only to the pressures they ride, which then came out via inept communication skills as a truncated 15% drop is optimum, and spread that around club rides until it was heard round the world. We see that kind of ineptitude all the time in science. Pick any press article about any experiment and you will see it. Sardonic grin. People aren't taught to be mindful, use logic and reason, and unless individuals seek it out or learn it on their own, they unwittingly fall for all sorts of fallacies of logic and pass them on as intelligent thought. We have our education system to thank for that. Clearly, I need a ride. I'm off to make sure my tires are 15% less inflated. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 7, 2014 8:25:55 PM UTC-6, ted wrote: I believe I have done that before, and I did just now. I may be incompetent but I didn't find test results documenting 15% tire drop as an optimum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet conundrum
What you're remembering as sport-touring were pretty spindly race-type bikes in comparison to the stouter Rom/Ram/AHH all day bicycles that Rivendell focuses on. And they had the consequent skinny tires which Riv eschews, too. Those 80's/90's bikes have their place and can be great fun to ride, but - in my opinion - your Rambouillet was not designed to mimic them. On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 12:07:09 PM UTC-7, Jeff Ong wrote: For what it's worth, I (the original poster) am around 6' tall, 230 lbs., pretty beefy and broad (big shoulders, etc.). I would characterize myself as a masher, I guess, since I cut my teeth on mountain biking and never really developed a glassy-smooth pedal stroke. I guess I was just really surprised by some of the ride characteristics of the bike... I was expecting something like the sport-tourers of the 80's and early 90's, not so much the handling of a loaded touring bike or early 80's klunker. I do suspect there are some real fit issues with this frameset for me -- most of my bikes are kind of on the small side, some almost comically so. I appreciate how open minded all you Riv devotees have been through this discussion, though -- no one telling me my perceptions are just wrong, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Another great point to consider, as I'm currently using an 8 speed cassette. How much drop off in shifting ease have you experienced with your 9x2 in the rear vs. an 8, David? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:03:38 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Larry, eight speed is nice as well, as they still use a regular chain. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:02 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Patrick my friend, Not exactly to the point, but I think 7-speed rear clusters are at the pinacle of bike gear technology. They are more forgiving when shifting, last longer, have wider chains. Simple and practical! A nice wide range 2X7 Roll on! Best, Larry On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Does anyone use fenders off road?
Interesting, David. Why wasn't it enjoyable? I've had fenders off road all last year, but then clay mud is not a factor where I ride. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:55:42 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I'd take them off. I've used metal and plastic in the dirt on occasion, but it's not very enjoyable. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Have always used non-metal fenders on bikes that go on non-paved ramblings. Had a fender fold-up in the back a couple times. Luckily nothing except the fender was damaged. That's me. Others use metal fenders with no problem at all off-road. Have noticed that leather washers at the mounting points do make a difference. My LHT has metal fenders and works fine. Although rarely take that on anything worse than a gravel road.\ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Nanga Parbat nanga...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hello RBW OB, I'm using a late 80's / early 90's Specialized mountain bike with Velo Orange steel fenders, that were on the bike. Even with the leather washers the fenders still rattle on trails. Is anyone using fenders for moderate off roading? Should I try the SKS fenders? Cheers, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
Thanks for the clarification, Ted. I'm following along better now. My apologies for being grouchy. I did have a fantastic run and ride yesterday. good and sloppy, slushy, muddy. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:55:01 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: Patrick, I hope you were able to get out for a ride today, and that you had a wonderful time. I posted in response to another posters suggestion to search for berto tire pressure. Doing so should turn up: http://www.bccclub.org/documents/Tireinflation.pdf. That article, or an earlier version of it which was published in Bicycling, seems to be the primary source for most, if not all, of the graphs, spreadsheets and apps dealing with tire pressure as a function of load and tire width that are all over over the internet and comprise a lot of what a google search for berto tire pressure turns up. In that article the author (Frank Berto) describes/defines tire drop, and asserts that ... the optimum inflation pressure for comfort and rolling resistance produces a Tire Drop of about 15% of W (the section width) The paper also presents graphs, derived from experiments with a variety of tires, that give tire pressure to produce 15% drop for various tire widths over a range of loads. It is those graphs that have been so widely embraced and repackaged. The paper does not describe or cite any testing or test results that support the assertion that optimal tire pressure results in 15% tire drop (and by inference vice versa). However, I suspect that there is or was some experimental basis for that assertion. The knowledge of the group being greater than mine, I think it is reasonable for me to inquire if anybody knows what Frank Berto's assertion about 15% tire drop being optimal is based on, and can point to some documentation of that basis. Also though I didn't state it well before, and probably still haven't, I think the question is perfectly logical. thnks Ted p.s. Berto's paper also states that ... Jan Heine thinks that inflation pressure is of relatively little importance and that the author (Berto) disagrees. I am fairly certain Jan's work is not where the 15% drop is optimal thing comes from. On Tay, April 8, 2014 3:02:5 3 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Och, Ted! Your Google skills no doubt are fine. But why seek evidence of something that is logically incomplete? The optimum temperature is a 15% drop. Spread that around at all the rides you do and see if people start to believe you, to the point that in winter they ride in a tank top to compensate for temperatures that are 15% too warm for them to ride optimally. Sardonic grin. Logical inference: someone read an article (possibly Jan's) on the testing of tire pressure and rolling resistance, and due to poor grasp of logic and reason remembered that concept in relation only to the pressures they ride, which then came out via inept communication skills as a truncated 15% drop is optimum, and spread that around club rides until it was heard round the world. We see that kind of ineptitude all the time in science. Pick any press article about any experiment and you will see it. Sardonic grin. People aren't taught to be mindful, use logic and reason, and unless individuals seek it out or learn it on their own, they unwittingly fall for all sorts of fallacies of logic and pass them on as intelligent thought. We have our education system to thank for that. Clearly, I need a ride. I'm off to make sure my tires are 15% less inflated. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 7, 2014 8:25:55 PM UTC-6, ted wrote: I believe I have done that before, and I did just now. I may be incompetent but I didn't find test results documenting 15% tire drop as an optimum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 29er x 2.5 Fender Recommendations?
I know of Planet Bike's Cascadia and am leaning towards Woodys flat fenders because the Plant Bikes are on my lassies' bikes and they seem to rattle a lot/seem cheep. Any other suggestions for 29er fenders that fit happily over 2.25 tires? With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Using my Sam as a commuter
This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
I ride a 1x9 setup for a long while and I found that it was a bit too much compromise. I have a Sugino crank waiting to be double+guarded so I can have a 38/24 setup up front. Since you seem to do predominantly mountain/trail stuff I'd hold onto that front lowest gear. Worse comes to worse take off the front derailleur and shift by hand. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Using my Sam as a commuter
Until I quit working in an office, I commuted 30 miles rt on a custom. Even now, that custom is my go to bike for errands, though I also have a Ram set up as a beater errand bike. (It's a nice beater.) More seriously, the Ram is the mult-gear option when I am feeling lazy, but the custom still remains my good bike. Since so much of my riding is utility riding, it seems reasonable to do it on the best bike. For me, even utility riding is done for fun; if it's not fun, why bother? I can save the world in other ways. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:28 AM, blakcloud blakclou...@gmail.com wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Why not a 1X9 with granny? I use the middle and inner rings on the XD2, with bashguard on the outside. I hardly ever use the 24, but I see no good reason to remove it. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Forgot this: 28.5 38.0 24.0 13.0 83.3 14.0 77.4 15.0 72.2 16.0 67.7 17.0 63.7 18.0 60.2 38.0 20.0 54.2 34.2 23.0 47.1 29.7 27.0 40.1 25.3 I don't find that shifting the 9 speed is any harder than the previous 7; both home made cassettes and Silver shifters. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Why not a 1X9 with granny? I use the middle and inner rings on the XD2, with bashguard on the outside. I hardly ever use the 24, but I see no good reason to remove it. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Does anyone use fenders off road?
I used both SKS and Planet Bike Cascadias, both 60 mm, off road, and neither set ratted except perhaps a very little bit on washboard. IME, the source of rattling is fender contact under the crown or, for the rear, with the seat stays. The front SKS and PB fenders were attached by brackets to crown bolts and there was a gap between top of fender and bottom of crown -- no contact. The rears: I truncated the rears so that they ended just aft of my saddlebag and there was far less mass to wag the fender. (I did this for reasons of convenience, not to stop rattling, but it accomplished that, too.) With the SKS's the rear struts extended from the truncated rear end almost vertically to the dropout; with the PBs, I forwent struts and simply zip tied the fender to the rear rack. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Nanga Parbat nangapa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello RBW OB, I'm using a late 80's / early 90's Specialized mountain bike with Velo Orange steel fenders, that were on the bike. Even with the leather washers the fenders still rattle on trails. Is anyone using fenders for moderate off roading? Should I try the SKS fenders? Cheers, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racks! (WTB?)
I commuted with Tubus Flys for years; they are rated for 18 or 20 kg and I've certainly loaded mine to that limit. 11 oz and minimalist design. If looks are a big issue, a slightly heavier and slightly weaker stainless steel model is available. Add Tubus front Tara or Duos and you'll not spend much more than $200 total. (Wayne at TheTouringStoredotcom ships at no additional charge.) On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Mathew Greiner mathew.grei...@gmail.comwrote: Questions about racks. Answers and offers to sell used good ones are both useful responses. My friend's cheaper aluminum rack broke and he's looking to replace it with something better. He commutes most days with a pair of Arkel panniers and a suit in a suit bag (like a durable, zippered one that probably came with one of his suits). So far he's had the bags on his rear rack with the suit bag folded in half or thirds and draped over the top. The Nitto Big Rear Rack seems like a slam dunk, but I think he needs to know there isn't an equally good option for a little less. How are people's experiences with things like the Nitto R-15, The Nitto Campee*, Tubus Cargo/Logo/Vega, Surly Nice Racks, etc? If anyone knows much about the Velo Orange Rear Campeur, that's an option, too. I think a lighter rear rack just for the suit and front low riders for the panniers might be a nice option, but that's as expensive or more, and the tops of the panniers are no longer supporting the suit (they kind of extend the deck of the rack as he uses it now). The Nitto Big Front Rack might also be interesting, as his bike has a lower trail and reportedly rides well with weight in the front. What other options might you all experience with to accommodate a similar load? * Also please help me be less confused. There are Nitto MT Campees (for a 26 wheel?), Nitto Campees (R20?) that go for about $150, and then Nitto Campees with low rider attachments for front or rear that go for $280. Will the regular ones ($150) accommodate panniers? Why must they all have the same name? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
in range, gear inches - you want something under 30 inches and something over 80 inches. Then make sure you don't have any steps over 8-10 inches. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:42:09 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Forgot this: 28.5 38.0 24.0 13.0 83.3 14.0 77.4 15.0 72.2 16.0 67.7 17.0 63.7 18.0 60.2 38.0 20.0 54.2 34.2 23.0 47.1 29.7 27.0 40.1 25.3 I don't find that shifting the 9 speed is any harder than the previous 7; both home made cassettes and Silver shifters. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Why not a 1X9 with granny? I use the middle and inner rings on the XD2, with bashguard on the outside. I hardly ever use the 24, but I see no good reason to remove it. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Does anyone use fenders off road?
I don't ride MTB terrain, but gravel (caliche) roads and some single-track (also caliche). My Honjo fenders don't make a sound. I added tire wipers and have them adjusted to just not touch the tires. They keep everything out of the fenders - rocks, sticks, chert and mud. The only sound I hear is pings on the tire wipers. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:50:00 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I used both SKS and Planet Bike Cascadias, both 60 mm, off road, and neither set ratted except perhaps a very little bit on washboard. IME, the source of rattling is fender contact under the crown or, for the rear, with the seat stays. The front SKS and PB fenders were attached by brackets to crown bolts and there was a gap between top of fender and bottom of crown -- no contact. The rears: I truncated the rears so that they ended just aft of my saddlebag and there was far less mass to wag the fender. (I did this for reasons of convenience, not to stop rattling, but it accomplished that, too.) With the SKS's the rear struts extended from the truncated rear end almost vertically to the dropout; with the PBs, I forwent struts and simply zip tied the fender to the rear rack. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Nanga Parbat nanga...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hello RBW OB, I'm using a late 80's / early 90's Specialized mountain bike with Velo Orange steel fenders, that were on the bike. Even with the leather washers the fenders still rattle on trails. Is anyone using fenders for moderate off roading? Should I try the SKS fenders? Cheers, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Have a 1x9 on my Sam Hillborne and it works fine. But I don't do a lot of off-road or really steep hill climbing so the 39 up front with an 11-36 in back is sufficient. If you went with a 32t up front and an 11-36 in the back you'd probably be good to go. Maybe a 30t up front if you want a really low gear. The best thing about a 1xanything is tire clearance with wide tires. Talking 2.7 inches and wider here. On most bikes the inner chainring and largest cogs can get too close to knobs and sidewalls. One of the many reasons that 1x10 is making such good headway. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: in range, gear inches - you want something under 30 inches and something over 80 inches. Then make sure you don't have any steps over 8-10 inches. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:42:09 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Forgot this: 28.5 38.0 24.0 13.0 83.3 14.0 77.4 15.0 72.2 16.0 67.7 17.0 63.7 18.0 60.2 38.0 20.0 54.2 34.2 23.0 47.1 29.7 27.0 40.1 25.3 I don't find that shifting the 9 speed is any harder than the previous 7; both home made cassettes and Silver shifters. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: Why not a 1X9 with granny? I use the middle and inner rings on the XD2, with bashguard on the outside. I hardly ever use the 24, but I see no good reason to remove it. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don't really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I'd love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i'm walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it's better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
As someone who has a 29'er MTB w/ a 1x9 drivetrain (32 front 11-34 rear), I say keep the inner ring. You don't have to shift if you don't want to but if you need it, you will have it. I am in southeastern PA, where the mountains pale in comparsison and on a couple of all day rides where I bonked, I wished I had something lower to spin while I was recovering. Cheap insurance in my mind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Does anyone use fenders off road?
I didn't care for the rattling gravel noise. They weren't providing enough utility to make that worth it for me. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Interesting, David. Why wasn't it enjoyable? I've had fenders off road all last year, but then clay mud is not a factor where I ride. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:55:42 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I'd take them off. I've used metal and plastic in the dirt on occasion, but it's not very enjoyable. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.com wrote: Have always used non-metal fenders on bikes that go on non-paved ramblings. Had a fender fold-up in the back a couple times. Luckily nothing except the fender was damaged. That's me. Others use metal fenders with no problem at all off-road. Have noticed that leather washers at the mounting points do make a difference. My LHT has metal fenders and works fine. Although rarely take that on anything worse than a gravel road.\ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Nanga Parbat nanga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello RBW OB, I'm using a late 80's / early 90's Specialized mountain bike with Velo Orange steel fenders, that were on the bike. Even with the leather washers the fenders still rattle on trails. Is anyone using fenders for moderate off roading? Should I try the SKS fenders? Cheers, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Define shifting ease? There's really no difference between 8 or 9 in amount of effort to shift??? I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to come out in the last decade or so. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Another great point to consider, as I'm currently using an 8 speed cassette. How much drop off in shifting ease have you experienced with your 9x2 in the rear vs. an 8, David? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:03:38 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Larry, eight speed is nice as well, as they still use a regular chain. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:02 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick my friend, Not exactly to the point, but I think 7-speed rear clusters are at the pinacle of bike gear technology. They are more forgiving when shifting, last longer, have wider chains. Simple and practical! A nice wide range 2X7 Roll on! Best, Larry On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don't really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I'd love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i'm walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it's better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Racks! (WTB?)
The Tubus Cosmo is really their rack compares to the Nitto 32/33R. My buddy has the Tubus, and I have the Nitto - they're both very nice and top of the line for a reason. The best thing about them is they keep the load well back from your feet and down a bit. My daughter has the Tubus Vega which is essentially the Fly but with double stays. Very strong rack but the load is way up high. Hey - The Touring Store is having a spring sale that ends tomorrow... http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/TUBUS%20HOME/TUBUS%20HOME%20PAGE.htm On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:59:44 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I commuted with Tubus Flys for years; they are rated for 18 or 20 kg and I've certainly loaded mine to that limit. 11 oz and minimalist design. If looks are a big issue, a slightly heavier and slightly weaker stainless steel model is available. Add Tubus front Tara or Duos and you'll not spend much more than $200 total. (Wayne at TheTouringStoredotcom ships at no additional charge.) On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Mathew Greiner mathew@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Questions about racks. Answers and offers to sell used good ones are both useful responses. My friend's cheaper aluminum rack broke and he's looking to replace it with something better. He commutes most days with a pair of Arkel panniers and a suit in a suit bag (like a durable, zippered one that probably came with one of his suits). So far he's had the bags on his rear rack with the suit bag folded in half or thirds and draped over the top. The Nitto Big Rear Rack seems like a slam dunk, but I think he needs to know there isn't an equally good option for a little less. How are people's experiences with things like the Nitto R-15, The Nitto Campee*, Tubus Cargo/Logo/Vega, Surly Nice Racks, etc? If anyone knows much about the Velo Orange Rear Campeur, that's an option, too. I think a lighter rear rack just for the suit and front low riders for the panniers might be a nice option, but that's as expensive or more, and the tops of the panniers are no longer supporting the suit (they kind of extend the deck of the rack as he uses it now). The Nitto Big Front Rack might also be interesting, as his bike has a lower trail and reportedly rides well with weight in the front. What other options might you all experience with to accommodate a similar load? * Also please help me be less confused. There are Nitto MT Campees (for a 26 wheel?), Nitto Campees (R20?) that go for about $150, and then Nitto Campees with low rider attachments for front or rear that go for $280. Will the regular ones ($150) accommodate panniers? Why must they all have the same name? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Define shifting ease: Larry had said 7 speeds are more forgiving. So I wasn't sure what that meant. Sounds like the 9 is no big deal and has a lot of benefit, which is what I'm counting on. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:26:55 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Define shifting ease? There's really no difference between 8 or 9 in amount of effort to shift??? I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to come out in the last decade or so. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Another great point to consider, as I'm currently using an 8 speed cassette. How much drop off in shifting ease have you experienced with your 9x2 in the rear vs. an 8, David? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:03:38 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Larry, eight speed is nice as well, as they still use a regular chain. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:02 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick my friend, Not exactly to the point, but I think 7-speed rear clusters are at the pinacle of bike gear technology. They are more forgiving when shifting, last longer, have wider chains. Simple and practical! A nice wide range 2X7 Roll on! Best, Larry On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
7-speed is all about chain line. 9-speed is step down in chain line. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:43:40 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Define shifting ease: Larry had said 7 speeds are more forgiving. So I wasn't sure what that meant. Sounds like the 9 is no big deal and has a lot of benefit, which is what I'm counting on. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:26:55 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Define shifting ease? There's really no difference between 8 or 9 in amount of effort to shift??? I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to come out in the last decade or so. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Another great point to consider, as I'm currently using an 8 speed cassette. How much drop off in shifting ease have you experienced with your 9x2 in the rear vs. an 8, David? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:03:38 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Larry, eight speed is nice as well, as they still use a regular chain. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:02 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick my friend, Not exactly to the point, but I think 7-speed rear clusters are at the pinacle of bike gear technology. They are more forgiving when shifting, last longer, have wider chains. Simple and practical! A nice wide range 2X7 Roll on! Best, Larry On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
You probably remember that the practical limit of friction shifting was debated at great length not too long ago and many considered 8 speeds to be the most they could friction shift easily. That group does not include me, but be aware that some do find 9 harder than fewer cogs. Patrick 10's no problem either, at least with Retrofrictions Moore On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: [...]. Sounds like the 9 is no big deal and has a lot of benefit, which is what I'm counting on. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I'm a bike commuter, ~6 miles one-way into Cambridge MA, ~40-min door-to-door. I'm fortunate to have secure bike parking and a shower at work. My Hunqapillar is setup with Big Bens (559BSD; ~52mm wide), which are terrific over the potholes and debris. I try to take hard-packed dirt trails, and they transition from road-to-trail and back quite well. I have VO ATB fenders to keep me dry. I've used Noodles and bullmoose (non-Bosco), which are setup with cable splitters for easy swaps (takes 10 min). Either are fine, and variety is good... but I think I prefer the Noodles for commuting. There are some stretches where the headwinds can be terrible, and the drop position makes it less unbearable. For luggage, I've moved around from front basket+shop sack to medium saddlesack to small saddlesack and back. I like 'em all! There's no one way for me. I think I could go to one bike, if I was willing to use the Hunqapillar through the slush/salt winter roads. (That stuff's brutal on the mechanicals!) All I know is that I love my commute. Happy riding, Shoji On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
Glad you had a great time outside yesterday. May you have another today. No worries on being grouchy, and no apologies needed. Frankly I didn't detect much grouch in your post. Way in bounds of the norm around here. regards Ted On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:07:56 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks for the clarification, Ted. I'm following along better now. My apologies for being grouchy. I did have a fantastic run and ride yesterday. good and sloppy, slushy, muddy. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:55:01 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: Patrick, I hope you were able to get out for a ride today, and that you had a wonderful time. I posted in response to another posters suggestion to search for berto tire pressure. Doing so should turn up: http://www.bccclub.org/documents/Tireinflation.pdf. That article, or an earlier version of it which was published in Bicycling, seems to be the primary source for most, if not all, of the graphs, spreadsheets and apps dealing with tire pressure as a function of load and tire width that are all over over the internet and comprise a lot of what a google search for berto tire pressure turns up. In that article the author (Frank Berto) describes/defines tire drop, and asserts that ... the optimum inflation pressure for comfort and rolling resistance produces a Tire Drop of about 15% of W (the section width) The paper also presents graphs, derived from experiments with a variety of tires, that give tire pressure to produce 15% drop for various tire widths over a range of loads. It is those graphs that have been so widely embraced and repackaged. The paper does not describe or cite any testing or test results that support the assertion that optimal tire pressure results in 15% tire drop (and by inference vice versa). However, I suspect that there is or was some experimental basis for that assertion. The knowledge of the group being greater than mine, I think it is reasonable for me to inquire if anybody knows what Frank Berto's assertion about 15% tire drop being optimal is based on, and can point to some documentation of that basis. Also though I didn't state it well before, and probably still haven't, I think the question is perfectly logical. thnks Ted p.s. Berto's paper also states that ... Jan Heine thinks that inflation pressure is of relatively little importance and that the author (Berto) disagrees. I am fairly certain Jan's work is not where the 15% drop is optimal thing comes from. On Tay, April 8, 2014 3:02:5 3 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Och, Ted! Your Google skills no doubt are fine. But why seek evidence of something that is logically incomplete? The optimum temperature is a 15% drop. Spread that around at all the rides you do and see if people start to believe you, to the point that in winter they ride in a tank top to compensate for temperatures that are 15% too warm for them to ride optimally. Sardonic grin. Logical inference: someone read an article (possibly Jan's) on the testing of tire pressure and rolling resistance, and due to poor grasp of logic and reason remembered that concept in relation only to the pressures they ride, which then came out via inept communication skills as a truncated 15% drop is optimum, and spread that around club rides until it was heard round the world. We see that kind of ineptitude all the time in science. Pick any press article about any experiment and you will see it. Sardonic grin. People aren't taught to be mindful, use logic and reason, and unless individuals seek it out or learn it on their own, they unwittingly fall for all sorts of fallacies of logic and pass them on as intelligent thought. We have our education system to thank for that. Clearly, I need a ride. I'm off to make sure my tires are 15% less inflated. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 7, 2014 8:25:55 PM UTC-6, ted wrote: I believe I have done that before, and I did just now. I may be incompetent but I didn't find test results documenting 15% tire drop as an optimum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
In bound? IN BOUNDS? Now THAT hurts! Grin. Kidding aside, you're far too kind, Ted. No ride today as it's a brain rest day. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:19:49 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: Glad you had a great time outside yesterday. May you have another today. No worries on being grouchy, and no apologies needed. Frankly I didn't detect much grouch in your post. Way in bounds of the norm around here. regards Ted On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:07:56 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks for the clarification, Ted. I'm following along better now. My apologies for being grouchy. I did have a fantastic run and ride yesterday. good and sloppy, slushy, muddy. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:55:01 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: Patrick, I hope you were able to get out for a ride today, and that you had a wonderful time. I posted in response to another posters suggestion to search for berto tire pressure. Doing so should turn up: http://www.bccclub.org/documents/Tireinflation.pdf. That article, or an earlier version of it which was published in Bicycling, seems to be the primary source for most, if not all, of the graphs, spreadsheets and apps dealing with tire pressure as a function of load and tire width that are all over over the internet and comprise a lot of what a google search for berto tire pressure turns up. In that article the author (Frank Berto) describes/defines tire drop, and asserts that ... the optimum inflation pressure for comfort and rolling resistance produces a Tire Drop of about 15% of W (the section width) The paper also presents graphs, derived from experiments with a variety of tires, that give tire pressure to produce 15% drop for various tire widths over a range of loads. It is those graphs that have been so widely embraced and repackaged. The paper does not describe or cite any testing or test results that support the assertion that optimal tire pressure results in 15% tire drop (and by inference vice versa). However, I suspect that there is or was some experimental basis for that assertion. The knowledge of the group being greater than mine, I think it is reasonable for me to inquire if anybody knows what Frank Berto's assertion about 15% tire drop being optimal is based on, and can point to some documentation of that basis. Also though I didn't state it well before, and probably still haven't, I think the question is perfectly logical. thnks Ted p.s. Berto's paper also states that ... Jan Heine thinks that inflation pressure is of relatively little importance and that the author (Berto) disagrees. I am fairly certain Jan's work is not where the 15% drop is optimal thing comes from. On Tay, April 8, 2014 3:02:5 3 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Och, Ted! Your Google skills no doubt are fine. But why seek evidence of something that is logically incomplete? The optimum temperature is a 15% drop. Spread that around at all the rides you do and see if people start to believe you, to the point that in winter they ride in a tank top to compensate for temperatures that are 15% too warm for them to ride optimally. Sardonic grin. Logical inference: someone read an article (possibly Jan's) on the testing of tire pressure and rolling resistance, and due to poor grasp of logic and reason remembered that concept in relation only to the pressures they ride, which then came out via inept communication skills as a truncated 15% drop is optimum, and spread that around club rides until it was heard round the world. We see that kind of ineptitude all the time in science. Pick any press article about any experiment and you will see it. Sardonic grin. People aren't taught to be mindful, use logic and reason, and unless individuals seek it out or learn it on their own, they unwittingly fall for all sorts of fallacies of logic and pass them on as intelligent thought. We have our education system to thank for that. Clearly, I need a ride. I'm off to make sure my tires are 15% less inflated. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 7, 2014 8:25:55 PM UTC-6, ted wrote: I believe I have done that before, and I did just now. I may be incompetent but I didn't find test results documenting 15% tire drop as an optimum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Using my Sam as a commuter
When I built up my Bleriot in 2007, as well as it being my rando bike, it was also to be my commute bike. Friend: you are going to commute on a RIVENDELL? Me: it is a bicycle. Get over it. Eventually I moved on to a custom rando bike, and Bleriot acquired a kickstand :-) From the start, it had fenders and racks, and in Phase 2 (about 5000 miles along), generator lighting. I no longer commute, but the Bleriot is my go-to bike. I can ride it anywhere, haul stuff in the panniers (grocery run!), and it is my summer vacation bike. Gets dumped on the beach, and might even ride a 200k permanent. In Jan 2013, I was commuting to work, and was struck by a car. I walked away from it, but the Bleriot didn't. Framebuilder friend of mine told me it WAS repairable, and after a conversation with Keven, off it went. It now has a new (Saluki) fork, and is new tubing from the SS couplers forward. And a spiffy new paint job - somewhere between Sam and Homer blue. It has always attracted completely unsolicited that is a really nice/pretty bike! comments. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157634204220895/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
On 04/09/2014 09:43 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Define shifting ease: Larry had said 7 speeds are more forgiving. So I wasn't sure what that meant. Sounds like the 9 is no big deal and has a lot of benefit, which is what I'm counting on. First, we must be talking about friction, not indexing, because with indexing all shifting is easy, no big deal. With friction, it seems to vary: some have no trouble friction shifting 9 or even 10, while others (myself included) found too much ghost shifting with 8 and find 7 significantly easier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
All I can say is I've saving my pennies for one of these. https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/paulcompimg/products/chainkeeperclamp_6_zoom.jpg http://www.paulcomp.com/chainkeepers.html I've had my chain come off so many times in the last couple weeks and it's driving me bonkers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riding Gravel Forum
[Opinion] Something about gravel and grinding makes me want to grind my teeth... There's probably nothing worse that riding on pure gravel (other than perhaps railroad ballast)... Why can't they better describe it for what it really is???... it's riding unpaved road... whether purely dirt, gravel with dirt, grass, or even ancient pavement... I'd say it's any road where cars may technically be allowed, yet you're likely to see few if any cars... to me these are pure bliss, and something to be savored, NOT to grind through (unless you're racing, in which case that's like guzzling a great cup of coffee). Peace, Bobby (sorry, I don't grind gravel) Birmingham On Sunday, April 6, 2014 5:23:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here is a forum I just discovered for and about riding gravel (gravel grinders), in case anyone else is interested. It's based out of Colorado but open to everyone. http://ridinggravel.com With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Using my Sam as a commuter
and, of course, we do all take PICTURES. https://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendellcommuters/pool/with/2881385269/#photo_2881385269 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Using my Sam as a commuter
Use my Sam for everything including 8-1/2 miles commuting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?
I have run both steel and plastic fenders offroad, and have yet to get into any serious trouble. You definitely need to be cognizant of how much clearance you have to avoid picking up debris. I probably wouldn't run knobbies with fenders. Too much danger of them pulling up a rock or something and getting lodged. Right now I'm using the Soma Rain Dogs, with the expectation that if somthing does get stuck they'll probably break apart rather than damage my frame/fork. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-doBiPrmtVso/U0V0Pzq973I/Sfc/1aweZ8P_yUs/s1600/13702255914_9394551407_z.jpg https://flic.kr/p/mSPDiC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Jamboree Ride Recon: 680 Trail
I am going to head out on that ride this weekend. Looks great. On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Fun ride. Eric, Evan, Jeremy and one of the five members of TheBoyzontheHoods Mr.Irving himself. Did a little recon on half the Jamboree route. Great mellow time, plenty of cheese stoppage and some really nice views. Route looks good so far. Pictures proved that 680 doesn't mean the freeway. https://flic.kr/s/aHsjWvbpnZ -Manny Pretty sure this is the way Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I commute 30 miles round trip on my Sam Hillborne. Matt On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:28:08 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Thanks guys! I'm far more confident in my 2 x 9 choice, though I do love the attractiveness of a 1x. Looking back at all the backpacking (photos are the closest thing I have to experiential memory) I see the hills I climb with a load, and that makes it clear I need the 2 x 9. Thank you for playing with this with me! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riding Gravel Forum
Marketing malfeasance of magnatudinous magnificence! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:17:56 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: [Opinion] Something about gravel and grinding makes me want to grind my teeth... There's probably nothing worse that riding on pure gravel (other than perhaps railroad ballast)... Why can't they better describe it for what it really is???... it's riding unpaved road... whether purely dirt, gravel with dirt, grass, or even ancient pavement... I'd say it's any road where cars may technically be allowed, yet you're likely to see few if any cars... to me these are pure bliss, and something to be savored, NOT to grind through (unless you're racing, in which case that's like guzzling a great cup of coffee). Peace, Bobby (sorry, I don't grind gravel) Birmingham On Sunday, April 6, 2014 5:23:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here is a forum I just discovered for and about riding gravel (gravel grinders), in case anyone else is interested. It's based out of Colorado but open to everyone. http://ridinggravel.com With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?
I was offroading with SKS longboards a couple weeks back and they got jammed up and I lost a piece of the strut-mounting hardware along the trail. I fixed it with tape, but a ziptie would have been nice. The tape is still holding the fender in place 3 weeks later Kevin Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riding Gravel Forum
I do what Bobby does. He seems to have it sorted out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I thought everyone commuted on their Rivs. I bought this Betty with commuting very much in mind. With small kids, I don't get out for long distances, but if I didn't commute to their school/church/the park it wouldn't be ridden much at all! Use that Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
All this commentary has me deciding to use the gofast for today's PO run. Just leaving On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:06 AM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I thought everyone commuted on their Rivs. I bought this Betty with commuting very much in mind. With small kids, I don't get out for long distances, but if I didn't commute to their school/church/the park it wouldn't be ridden much at all! Use that Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riding Gravel Forum
If your tires are fat and soft, real gravel isn't bad. I admit that the route I have in mind is hardly all gravel; it's mostly dirt and gravel. But there are sections where the gravel is inches deep. Fat, soft, and, I daresay, 700C tires make it fun. Patrick 28 is fat on pavement, 2 is skinny on dirt Moore On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: [Opinion] Something about gravel and grinding makes me want to grind my teeth... There's probably nothing worse that riding on pure gravel (other than perhaps railroad ballast)... Why can't they better describe it for what it really is???... it's riding unpaved road... whether purely dirt, gravel with dirt, grass, or even ancient pavement... I'd say it's any road where cars may technically be allowed, yet you're likely to see few if any cars... to me these are pure bliss, and something to be savored, NOT to grind through (unless you're racing, in which case that's like guzzling a great cup of coffee). Peace, Bobby (sorry, I don't grind gravel) Birmingham On Sunday, April 6, 2014 5:23:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here is a forum I just discovered for and about riding gravel (gravel grinders), in case anyone else is interested. It's based out of Colorado but open to everyone. http://ridinggravel.com With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Pre-built 700C dynamo wheel, janked Brooks saddle.
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[RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?
I've been riding aluminum fenders on all sorts of dirt and gravel, and haven't had a problem [yet]. I agree with a previous poster that the sound of little pebbles pinging as they ricochet off the underside of the fender can get annoying to some, and plastic fenders would mute that noise a little, but it doesn't really bother me. As for mud caking up, I think it has something to do with clearance, and as long as I have a 2cm gap between the tire and the fender, I don't have issues. On bikes with a really tight gap between the tire and fender (like less than 10mm), I get stuff jammed up there sometimes. Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Well Patrick, it appears to me that this striving for simplicity is being made rather complicated ! yes ? Perfection is the I of the beholder. It's not the circumstances that make things just as I prefer , it one's attitude, the Feeling that things are just as I prefer that creates the experience of perfection. It's not about the bike, or anything other than your feeling attitude and Assumption of what Is for me. All the ideas and images for the bike, come from that attitude. Attempts to change things without a change of attitude and assumption is futile. Sheer futility ! So I ask, What is You really want, what is the Feeling of it *already being done* ? THAT feeling . . BAM ! Live *From* that Feeling, and the rest will take care of itself . - And for anyone thinks this is too far out for you, it is, so forget you ever saw it. Or not. What do you think LIFE is all about ? Doing this that and the other ? Heck no, the Life is but a means , a means to Feel and Express Freedom , Liberation from all the perceived burdens and restrictions that One carries with them. Everyone is doing this , all day every day. This *Passion*, as they say makes the World go 'round . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I'd say if you have a secure place to store it, absolutely,ride it. I think the Sam looks like an awesome commuter. I'd love to ride my Rivs to work, but I'd only do it if I could be sure they were safe. Since one is a custom and the other one's an early Waterford-built A/R, they're not easy to replace. Ideally , if I had an office (I'm a cube serf) I'd keep my Riv in it. We do have a locked cage in the parking lot attached to the building I work in, but it has been broken into on more than one occasion. As for Rivendell not pushing the commuting aspect of their bikes...well...they seem to ride their bikes regularly to and from work...so I would say they live the commuting aspect of their bikes, and their bikes are designed for real-world applications. Somewhere on their site, Grant does mention that commuting might not be feasible for everyone. Anyway, I hope you find that riding your Sam to and from work is a high point of your day. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:28:08 AM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Ha! It's worth pointing out that sometimes a drivetrain is just a drivetrain. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:42:26 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote: Well Patrick, it appears to me that this striving for simplicity is being made rather complicated ! yes ? Perfection is the I of the beholder. It's not the circumstances that make things just as I prefer , it one's attitude, the Feeling that things are just as I prefer that creates the experience of perfection. It's not about the bike, or anything other than your feeling attitude and Assumption of what Is for me. All the ideas and images for the bike, come from that attitude. Attempts to change things without a change of attitude and assumption is futile. Sheer futility ! So I ask, What is You really want, what is the Feeling of it *already being done* ? THAT feeling . . BAM ! Live *From* that Feeling, and the rest will take care of itself . - And for anyone thinks this is too far out for you, it is, so forget you ever saw it. Or not. What do you think LIFE is all about ? Doing this that and the other ? Heck no, the Life is but a means , a means to Feel and Express Freedom , Liberation from all the perceived burdens and restrictions that One carries with them. Everyone is doing this , all day every day. This *Passion*, as they say makes the World go 'round . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
On 04/09/2014 12:37 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks guys! I'm far more confident in my 2 x 9 choice, though I do love the attractiveness of a 1x. Looking back at all the backpacking (photos are the closest thing I have to experiential memory) I see the hills I climb with a load, and that makes it clear I need the 2 x 9. Thank you for playing with this with me! Now, your next step should include refining and lightening your load. Over on the iBOB list, not long ago there was a discussion on this topic. I believe with a good selection of the latest equipment it's possible to greatly lighten your load without compromising either function or comfort. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/camping$20equipment/internet-bob/snuT5mNU01Q/_woTXtwVFp0J Some of this http://alexwetmore.org/?cat=165 might be helpful as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?
my daughters SKS fenders creek everywhere - bumps not required. As I mentioned above, tire completely eliminate ping of aluminum fenders - nothing but dust goes in. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:39:21 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: I've been riding aluminum fenders on all sorts of dirt and gravel, and haven't had a problem [yet]. I agree with a previous poster that the sound of little pebbles pinging as they ricochet off the underside of the fender can get annoying to some, and plastic fenders would mute that noise a little, but it doesn't really bother me. As for mud caking up, I think it has something to do with clearance, and as long as I have a 2cm gap between the tire and the fender, I don't have issues. On bikes with a really tight gap between the tire and fender (like less than 10mm), I get stuff jammed up there sometimes. Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?
my daughters SKS fenders creak everywhere all the time - bumps not required. As I mentioned above, tire wipers completely eliminate ping of aluminum fenders - nothing but dust goes in. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:39:21 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: I've been riding aluminum fenders on all sorts of dirt and gravel, and haven't had a problem [yet]. I agree with a previous poster that the sound of little pebbles pinging as they ricochet off the underside of the fender can get annoying to some, and plastic fenders would mute that noise a little, but it doesn't really bother me. As for mud caking up, I think it has something to do with clearance, and as long as I have a 2cm gap between the tire and the fender, I don't have issues. On bikes with a really tight gap between the tire and fender (like less than 10mm), I get stuff jammed up there sometimes. Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?
I've been able to eliminate SKS crk with the following: Destress the stays as much as possible to reduce strain on the fender. Make sure to use those dorky plastic stay ends--they keep the stay from rubbing on the fender and making noise. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: my daughters SKS fenders creek everywhere - bumps not required. As I mentioned above, tire completely eliminate ping of aluminum fenders - nothing but dust goes in. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:39:21 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: I've been riding aluminum fenders on all sorts of dirt and gravel, and haven't had a problem [yet]. I agree with a previous poster that the sound of little pebbles pinging as they ricochet off the underside of the fender can get annoying to some, and plastic fenders would mute that noise a little, but it doesn't really bother me. As for mud caking up, I think it has something to do with clearance, and as long as I have a 2cm gap between the tire and the fender, I don't have issues. On bikes with a really tight gap between the tire and fender (like less than 10mm), I get stuff jammed up there sometimes. Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Sheldon has already done the math for us - put in your sprockets and try a few chainrings to see what you like. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:50:14 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Ha! It's worth pointing out that sometimes a drivetrain is just a drivetrain. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:42:26 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote: Well Patrick, it appears to me that this striving for simplicity is being made rather complicated ! yes ? Perfection is the I of the beholder. It's not the circumstances that make things just as I prefer , it one's attitude, the Feeling that things are just as I prefer that creates the experience of perfection. It's not about the bike, or anything other than your feeling attitude and Assumption of what Is for me. All the ideas and images for the bike, come from that attitude. Attempts to change things without a change of attitude and assumption is futile. Sheer futility ! So I ask, What is You really want, what is the Feeling of it *already being done* ? THAT feeling . . BAM ! Live *From* that Feeling, and the rest will take care of itself . - And for anyone thinks this is too far out for you, it is, so forget you ever saw it. Or not. What do you think LIFE is all about ? Doing this that and the other ? Heck no, the Life is but a means , a means to Feel and Express Freedom , Liberation from all the perceived burdens and restrictions that One carries with them. Everyone is doing this , all day every day. This *Passion*, as they say makes the World go 'round . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Thanks, Steve. No worries there. I'm already as light as I care to go (and lighter than most from what I can tell). There are too many things that happen unexpectedly, I I prefer a bit of weight to have gear to handle them. Like funnel clouds on Pikes Peak last year. Or record rains. Or... Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:55:13 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 04/09/2014 12:37 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks guys! I'm far more confident in my 2 x 9 choice, though I do love the attractiveness of a 1x. Looking back at all the backpacking (photos are the closest thing I have to experiential memory) I see the hills I climb with a load, and that makes it clear I need the 2 x 9. Thank you for playing with this with me! Now, your next step should include refining and lightening your load. Over on the iBOB list, not long ago there was a discussion on this topic. I believe with a good selection of the latest equipment it's possible to greatly lighten your load without compromising either function or comfort. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/camping$20equipment/internet-bob/snuT5mNU01Q/_woTXtwVFp0J Some of this http://alexwetmore.org/?cat=165 might be helpful as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bay Area Overnight, May 16, 17, 18?
Gonna be around. Anyone up for a quick overnight one of those nights? cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to come out in the last decade or so. Appears he does no longer, but Jeff Jones for a time modified the 9 into a 6 speed cassette with a 36 (or is it 38? Will have to check) low gear. The modified cassette works with a single speed hub allowing for less dish on the wheel. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:26:55 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Define shifting ease? There's really no difference between 8 or 9 in amount of effort to shift??? I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to come out in the last decade or so. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Another great point to consider, as I'm currently using an 8 speed cassette. How much drop off in shifting ease have you experienced with your 9x2 in the rear vs. an 8, David? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:03:38 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Larry, eight speed is nice as well, as they still use a regular chain. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:02 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick my friend, Not exactly to the point, but I think 7-speed rear clusters are at the pinacle of bike gear technology. They are more forgiving when shifting, last longer, have wider chains. Simple and practical! A nice wide range 2X7 Roll on! Best, Larry On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Riv-ish Shop in Chicago?
Anyone know of a Riv-ish shop in Chicago? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Does anyone use fenders off road?
Another vote for Longboards in the dirt. I've never had a problem with a jammed front fender, but the fear of that happening keeps me away from metal fenders, although they look lovely to me. I've never noticed creak, rattle, or otherwise with plastic fenders. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:02:14 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: I've been able to eliminate SKS crk with the following: Destress the stays as much as possible to reduce strain on the fender. Make sure to use those dorky plastic stay ends--they keep the stay from rubbing on the fender and making noise. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: my daughters SKS fenders creek everywhere - bumps not required. As I mentioned above, tire completely eliminate ping of aluminum fenders - nothing but dust goes in. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:39:21 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: I've been riding aluminum fenders on all sorts of dirt and gravel, and haven't had a problem [yet]. I agree with a previous poster that the sound of little pebbles pinging as they ricochet off the underside of the fender can get annoying to some, and plastic fenders would mute that noise a little, but it doesn't really bother me. As for mud caking up, I think it has something to do with clearance, and as long as I have a 2cm gap between the tire and the fender, I don't have issues. On bikes with a really tight gap between the tire and fender (like less than 10mm), I get stuff jammed up there sometimes. Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 26 Tire Suggestions?
Hi all, I just acquired a Koga Miyata Valley Runner frame that I've got to outfit with some new wheels and tires. I haven't been in the world of 26 wheels or tires for quite a few years and need some suggestions on tires. The frame can fit 2 tires comfortably with fenders. 2.15 would be the largest with fenders but I would like to stick with 2. I'm looking for smooth tires with no knobs. Suggestions anyone? Additionally, does anyone have any tires lying around they need to get off their hands? Thanks! I'll post a picture of the build when I'm all done with it. A few of you have contributed items to this build in the past few days (Nitto R-15, Marks Rack, Platrack, Slickersack, Saddlebag Grip)., thank you all so much! Cheers! Mike U Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I commute 18 miles RT to work, and am thankful to have a shower and bike storage at my job. Plus a little kitchenette for coffee and breakfast! Protobleriot with bosco bullmoose bars, front basket, and sackville saddlebags. It's my only bike, which is one way for it to qualify as does everything On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:49:58 AM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Shop in Chicago?
Boulevard in Logan Square. Comrade Cycles - West Town (this is my go-to LBS) Bunch of others, these just came to mind quickly. David Chicago! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:53:46 PM UTC-5, Michael Fleischman wrote: Anyone know of a Riv-ish shop in Chicago? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Technomic Deluxe 10cm Stem, 26.0mm Possible Pedal Swap.
Yes, please. Finishing the tinkering of my new Redwood, and need: Nitto Technomic Deluxe (190mm tall one) - 10cm, 26.0mm clamp ALSO! I got the Thin Gripsters (VP-001) in green. The product photo online showed a near perfect match to Redwood green. They arrived and are much darker than anticipated. Mounted, rode around the block a few times on test rides. I like them, but wish I could track down a silver set (which VP's website says exist, but I can't seem to find them for sale anywhere) So, trade my green ones for silver or dark grey ones OR for MKS Grip Kings, which I know I like. If a trade does not materialize, I might try my hand at removing the green anodizing. We'll see... Thanks in advance, David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Shop in Chicago?
Anything on the southside / south suburbs? Unfortunately, limited to this area. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: New pair Challenge Parigi-Roubaix 700x27 clinchers (29-30mm actual)
I've got a pair of new, never mounted, Challenge Parigis that I've been holding onto as a spare set to have on hand. These are the clincher version, gumwall, and measure a plump 29-30mm on Super Champion rims. I have another set of these on one of my bikes and I love them, hence the backup set! Extremely smooth and supple ride. But I need to divest of my spare collections of bikey stuff to help fund a new project, so the spare set needs to go. $90 shipped CONUS. Contact off-list if interested. Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Shop in Chicago?
Lloyd at Blue City in Bridgeport started out at Boulevard. He is generally empathetic to the RBW style. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:37:04 PM UTC-5, Michael Fleischman wrote: Anything on the southside / south suburbs? Unfortunately, limited to this area. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
On 04/09/2014 02:09 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Steve. No worries there. I'm already as light as I care to go (and lighter than most from what I can tell). There are too many things that happen unexpectedly, I I prefer a bit of weight to have gear to handle them. Like funnel clouds on Pikes Peak last year. Or record rains. The joy of this is the equipment retains all its functionality, it's just that it's gotten lighter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Shop in Chicago?
If you're looking for neat eye-candy shops go to Watsyn Cycles, Cycle Smithy and Yojimbo's Garage. Not strictly riv-ish but very cool in their own right and worth the trip from the south side. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Och, Steve! You're cute. Grin. Do you know what I take or what my stuff weighs? 60 pounds including food and water for 21 days. Lighter than that is possible, but I've been there, done that and no, the light weight stuff always sacrifices more than weight. Basic kit is under 20 pounds. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:28:04 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 04/09/2014 02:09 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Steve. No worries there. I'm already as light as I care to go (and lighter than most from what I can tell). There are too many things that happen unexpectedly, I I prefer a bit of weight to have gear to handle them. Like funnel clouds on Pikes Peak last year. Or record rains. The joy of this is the equipment retains all its functionality, it's just that it's gotten lighter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
J: my solution to the matter of a beater that can be stolen without tragedy has been to find old but nice bikes that as closely as possible imitate my good ones. The old Motobecane that I sold to Eric Norris (it was stolen in that the price was a steal) was one such, and I have had many others. One great fun one was an old sport-tourer Raleigh Technium that I picked up very cheap and built even cheaper. i don't know why they bothered with the aluminum, since it was a huge tank, and as noodley as a -- noodle; but with fattish 32 mm tires and a 68 fixed gear, it was a fun ride. I realize that one can have fun riding just about anything -- well, there are some exceptions -- but life is too short to waste most of your riding on something that isn't fun enough. My gawd, man, get yourself a bike that fits, at least! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 26 Tire Suggestions?
50 mm 559 Kojaks. Worth the $$. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Michael Ullmer mjull...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just acquired a Koga Miyata Valley Runner frame that I've got to outfit with some new wheels and tires. I haven't been in the world of 26 wheels or tires for quite a few years and need some suggestions on tires. The frame can fit 2 tires comfortably with fenders. 2.15 would be the largest with fenders but I would like to stick with 2. I'm looking for smooth tires with no knobs. Suggestions anyone? Additionally, does anyone have any tires lying around they need to get off their hands? Thanks! I'll post a picture of the build when I'm all done with it. A few of you have contributed items to this build in the past few days (Nitto R-15, Marks Rack, Platrack, Slickersack, Saddlebag Grip)., thank you all so much! Cheers! Mike U Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 26 Tire Suggestions?
Marathon Racers 1.6, if you are looking for a good rolling street tire. I run them on my tandem, over lots of dirt paved roads. One flat in about 1,000 miles. Michael On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:21:22 AM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote: Hi all, I just acquired a Koga Miyata Valley Runner frame that I've got to outfit with some new wheels and tires. I haven't been in the world of 26 wheels or tires for quite a few years and need some suggestions on tires. The frame can fit 2 tires comfortably with fenders. 2.15 would be the largest with fenders but I would like to stick with 2. I'm looking for smooth tires with no knobs. Suggestions anyone? Additionally, does anyone have any tires lying around they need to get off their hands? Thanks! I'll post a picture of the build when I'm all done with it. A few of you have contributed items to this build in the past few days (Nitto R-15, Marks Rack, Platrack, Slickersack, Saddlebag Grip)., thank you all so much! Cheers! Mike U Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Used (Vince's) 60cm Betty Foy at Rivbike
This is a raging deal on a nicely-put-together Betty. They have a couple of bigger light-blue San Marcos frames for sale, too (Soma has switched to a darker blue). http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-089.htm Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 26 Tire Suggestions?
I have enjoyed riding on Schwalbe Big Apples (26x2.0 and 26x2.15)for several years. For something a little skinnier, I recently mounted a set of Compass 26x1.75 and have liked the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Deacon, I'm sitting in an Inn after a hard drive across a chunk of Md., all of Delaware, NJ, and up NY to Rhinebeck so my brain is too tired for a full answer. So here's the short version. All gearing combinations involve trade offs among 4 variables - hi/low which you have identified; but also how big the jumps are between gears; the ease of getting from one gear to the next; and where your favorite gears are. The wider the hi/low range the wider the steps between gears, but this can be counteracted to some degree by going to a dbl and then a triple. A wide range cassette always yields large steps between gears, which I don't like. I usually run a 12-27 or at most an 11-28. Even with that, on our riding in flat Virginia I only used 3 gears but two of them were too far apart. So the double will let you get a pretty wide range with smaller steps. But with many doubles the next gear can be an awkward front shift and a 2 or 3 click rear shift leaving you between the gear you would really like. A ring difference of 10 tends to yield the simplest shifting pattern - a single click to the next gear. 14 tooth difference yields 2 clicks to the next gear. I tend to find the 12 difference leaving me between gears. I try to create sets with about 10% between gears especially in the most used middle. Finally, think about which gears you use the most and try to get a good chain line and easy pattern between them. I rarely use a ratio of less than 1 to 1 and never more than 4-1. For example my Ram has a 44/30 and an 11/27 while the Saluki a 48/34/26 (24 for big long climbs) with a 12-27. The tandem, likes easy shifting, so 48/38/28 with a 12-27. It feels very stressful to me to try to spin a ratio much below 1-1 fast enough to keep a bike upright for a long time. To each his own. Simplification is good, over simplification makes life more complicated than it needs to be. Michael On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Thanks, Michael! Rest well after your long drive! Yes, indeed. The challenge of simplicity is the complexity of discovering what is essential and what is noise. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:36:16 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote: Deacon, I'm sitting in an Inn after a hard drive across a chunk of Md., all of Delaware, NJ, and up NY to Rhinebeck so my brain is too tired for a full answer. So here's the short version. All gearing combinations involve trade offs among 4 variables - hi/low which you have identified; but also how big the jumps are between gears; the ease of getting from one gear to the next; and where your favorite gears are. The wider the hi/low range the wider the steps between gears, but this can be counteracted to some degree by going to a dbl and then a triple. A wide range cassette always yields large steps between gears, which I don't like. I usually run a 12-27 or at most an 11-28. Even with that, on our riding in flat Virginia I only used 3 gears but two of them were too far apart. So the double will let you get a pretty wide range with smaller steps. But with many doubles the next gear can be an awkward front shift and a 2 or 3 click rear shift leaving you between the gear you would really like. A ring difference of 10 tends to yield the simplest shifting pattern - a single click to the next gear. 14 tooth difference yields 2 clicks to the next gear. I tend to find the 12 difference leaving me between gears. I try to create sets with about 10% between gears especially in the most used middle. Finally, think about which gears you use the most and try to get a good chain line and easy pattern between them. I rarely use a ratio of less than 1 to 1 and never more than 4-1. For example my Ram has a 44/30 and an 11/27 while the Saluki a 48/34/26 (24 for big long climbs) with a 12-27. The tandem, likes easy shifting, so 48/38/28 with a 12-27. It feels very stressful to me to try to spin a ratio much below 1-1 fast enough to keep a bike upright for a long time. To each his own. Simplification is good, over simplification makes life more complicated than it needs to be. Michael On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
On 04/09/2014 05:36 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: Deacon, I'm sitting in an Inn after a hard drive across a chunk of Md., all of Delaware, NJ, and up NY to Rhinebeck so my brain is too tired for a full answer. So here's the short version. All gearing combinations involve trade offs among 4 variables - hi/low which you have identified; but also how big the jumps are between gears; the ease of getting from one gear to the next; and where your favorite gears are. The wider the hi/low range the wider the steps between gears, but this can be counteracted to some degree by going to a dbl and then a triple. A wide range cassette always yields large steps between gears, which I don't like. I usually run a 12-27 or at most an 11-28. Even with that, on our riding in flat Virginia I only used 3 gears but two of them were too far apart. So the double will let you get a pretty wide range with smaller steps. But with many doubles the next gear can be an awkward front shift and a 2 or 3 click rear shift leaving you between the gear you would really like. A ring difference of 10 tends to yield the simplest shifting pattern - a single click to the next gear. 14 tooth difference yields 2 clicks to the next gear. I tend to find the 12 difference leaving me between gears. I try to create sets with about 10% between gears especially in the most used middle. Finally, think about which gears you use the most and try to get a good chain line and easy pattern between them. I rarely use a ratio of less than 1 to 1 and never more than 4-1. For example my Ram has a 44/30 and an 11/27 while the Saluki a 48/34/26 (24 for big long climbs) with a 12-27. The tandem, likes easy shifting, so 48/38/28 with a 12-27. It feels very stressful to me to try to spin a ratio much below 1-1 fast enough to keep a bike upright for a long time. To each his own. Simplification is good, over simplification makes life more complicated than it needs to be. Bloody marvelous answer. It's hard to see how a not-tired brain could improve upon this in any respect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
10 mile round trip four days a week on my AHH. Oh what fun it is getting to and from work. Well I must pack up and hit the road for another commute adventure. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: J: my solution to the matter of a beater that can be stolen without tragedy has been to find old but nice bikes that as closely as possible imitate my good ones. The old Motobecane that I sold to Eric Norris (it was stolen in that the price was a steal) was one such, and I have had many others. One great fun one was an old sport-tourer Raleigh Technium that I picked up very cheap and built even cheaper. i don't know why they bothered with the aluminum, since it was a huge tank, and as noodley as a -- noodle; but with fattish 32 mm tires and a 68 fixed gear, it was a fun ride. I realize that one can have fun riding just about anything -- well, there are some exceptions -- but life is too short to waste most of your riding on something that isn't fun enough. My gawd, man, get yourself a bike that fits, at least! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Blakcloud, you and me both know the knarly streets of Toronto eats nice bikes for breakfast. I too have gradually eased my stress on having a bike stolen and/or damaged when out and about, but it has taken awhile. I've only had a bike stolen once - an old Bianchi that I thought I had locked up, but hadn't (at Yonge and Dundas Square where all the crackheads hang out, no less). So more on me than anyone else. D'oh! I also get the desire to ride a bike you like. My 95% of riding (commuting) is done on a too-small Cross Check, which certainly is my least-fav bike in my stable. On top of that, I have a porteur rack and big Wald on the front of it, which needless to say, does not improve the handling. BUT! if something happened to it, I would also be the least upset and would get over it. I also rode it right through the winter, and had few qualms exposing it to all of that hell. After riding the Ram all weekend, it sure was hard going back onto that Surly tank Monday morning. But so it goes.. KJ On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTT: Baggins Panniers for an Albastache bar
In building up my Hilsen, I need to change my stem, which means unwrapping the bars...I have been wanting to try the Albastach for some time so thought this would be a good point to do it. I started looking around for something to finance it and realized I had a set of Baggins panniers in waxed tan that I got pre-owned off the forum and have never used in 2 (?) years...maybe someone would like to trade??? Or sell for $100 shipped in the USA? Quick pic. Some road dirt from PO, but all in all pretty darn excellent condition. https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/13700575915/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTT: Baggins Panniers for an Albastache bar
Hey there, its Brad right? I might have exchanged some emails in the past with you via the forum.How do the bags attach? You just throw them over the rack and use an irish strap to secure them? Im potentially interested if you havnt sold them yet. Thanks-Mike Sent from my iPhone On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:46 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: In building up my Hilsen, I need to change my stem, which means unwrapping the bars...I have been wanting to try the Albastach for some time so thought this would be a good point to do it. I started looking around for something to finance it and realized I had a set of Baggins panniers in waxed tan that I got pre-owned off the forum and have never used in 2 (?) years...maybe someone would like to trade??? Or sell for $100 shipped in the USA? Quick pic. Some road dirt from PO, but all in all pretty darn excellent condition. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bay Area Overnight, May 16, 17, 18?
Hey CC, i could be down to camp Sunday night( 18th). Let me know, -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Gonna be around. Anyone up for a quick overnight one of those nights? cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Technomic Deluxe 10cm Stem, 26.0mm Possible Pedal Swap.
Check out the VP-Vice at Ocean Air Cycles -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTT: Baggins Panniers for an Albastache bar
Brad indeed. And good question. I've never mounted them, so I had to look, and I think you're absolutely correct. There is a simple leather belt loop riveted on the backside of each bag that would serve as a lashing point, and an Irish strap would be perfect. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:55:37 PM UTC-6, Michael Williams wrote: Hey there, its Brad right? I might have exchanged some emails in the past with you via the forum.How do the bags attach? You just throw them over the rack and use an irish strap to secure them? Im potentially interested if you havnt sold them yet. Thanks-Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 29er x 2.5 Fender Recommendations?
Cody at Woody's Fenders is going to lengthen some chop chort fenders, add stays. That way I'll be able to not worry about clearances near as much and can set the fender with greater clearance for debris to clear out. We'll see how it goes! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB/WTT: Size 4, old style (= black) Zefal HpX
For a 57 c-c tt or 57 or 58 c-c st. Good condition, please. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 26 Tire Suggestions?
The Big Ben's that Rivendell sells get good reviews here for both on off road. Haven't tried them myself. I have a pair of 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes that I ran on my old MTB for a while before putting knobs back on it. They are more of a touring tire but I've ridden the off-road, both on the MTB and my Atlantis. I'm not an aggressive off-roader. Let me know if the Supremes are of interest to you. dougP On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote: Hi all, I just acquired a Koga Miyata Valley Runner frame that I've got to outfit with some new wheels and tires. I haven't been in the world of 26 wheels or tires for quite a few years and need some suggestions on tires. The frame can fit 2 tires comfortably with fenders. 2.15 would be the largest with fenders but I would like to stick with 2. I'm looking for smooth tires with no knobs. Suggestions anyone? Additionally, does anyone have any tires lying around they need to get off their hands? Thanks! I'll post a picture of the build when I'm all done with it. A few of you have contributed items to this build in the past few days (Nitto R-15, Marks Rack, Platrack, Slickersack, Saddlebag Grip)., thank you all so much! Cheers! Mike U Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racks! (WTB?)
Matthew: I've used the Nitto big back rack (the older one, not the current one with the 2nd set of bars), another Nitto (forget the number) that does have the lower bars, and the Tubus Cosmo. Also numerous cheap aluminum (c)racks as I climbed the learning curve. Good quality steel racks are all similar in cost so it comes down to what features your friend needs for his specific loads. Nitto Tubus both have good mounting hardware and are simple to install. If it's not too late, check out the Touring Store sale referenced elsewhere on this thread. Wayne is a great guy with good information and excellent service. I've gotten a few things from him over the years and if he has something on sale, it'll take a lot of searching to find a better price. dougP On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:50:32 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: Questions about racks. Answers and offers to sell used good ones are both useful responses. My friend's cheaper aluminum rack broke and he's looking to replace it with something better. He commutes most days with a pair of Arkel panniers and a suit in a suit bag (like a durable, zippered one that probably came with one of his suits). So far he's had the bags on his rear rack with the suit bag folded in half or thirds and draped over the top. The Nitto Big Rear Rack seems like a slam dunk, but I think he needs to know there isn't an equally good option for a little less. How are people's experiences with things like the Nitto R-15, The Nitto Campee*, Tubus Cargo/Logo/Vega, Surly Nice Racks, etc? If anyone knows much about the Velo Orange Rear Campeur, that's an option, too. I think a lighter rear rack just for the suit and front low riders for the panniers might be a nice option, but that's as expensive or more, and the tops of the panniers are no longer supporting the suit (they kind of extend the deck of the rack as he uses it now). The Nitto Big Front Rack might also be interesting, as his bike has a lower trail and reportedly rides well with weight in the front. What other options might you all experience with to accommodate a similar load? * Also please help me be less confused. There are Nitto MT Campees (for a 26 wheel?), Nitto Campees (R20?) that go for about $150, and then Nitto Campees with low rider attachments for front or rear that go for $280. Will the regular ones ($150) accommodate panniers? Why must they all have the same name? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Racks! (WTB?)
Regarding Campee. Campee is not a model name, but more of a product line or maybe just a branding adjective. Milwaukee Bicycle, just as a for-instance, sells 8 racks that have the Campee sticker on them, and that doesn't include the Mini Front (32F) that Riv sells. As another for-instance, Alexs Cycles (in Japan) has an entire product category titled Campee. Under that category they have racks, decaleurs, fenders, panniers, backpacks, etc. Somebody asking to buy a Nitto Campee is about as specific as asking to buy Shimano SPD pedals. I'm sure that doesn't cut the confusion, but hopefully it explains partially why it's so confusing. On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:50:32 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: Questions about racks. Answers and offers to sell used good ones are both useful responses. My friend's cheaper aluminum rack broke and he's looking to replace it with something better. He commutes most days with a pair of Arkel panniers and a suit in a suit bag (like a durable, zippered one that probably came with one of his suits). So far he's had the bags on his rear rack with the suit bag folded in half or thirds and draped over the top. The Nitto Big Rear Rack seems like a slam dunk, but I think he needs to know there isn't an equally good option for a little less. How are people's experiences with things like the Nitto R-15, The Nitto Campee*, Tubus Cargo/Logo/Vega, Surly Nice Racks, etc? If anyone knows much about the Velo Orange Rear Campeur, that's an option, too. I think a lighter rear rack just for the suit and front low riders for the panniers might be a nice option, but that's as expensive or more, and the tops of the panniers are no longer supporting the suit (they kind of extend the deck of the rack as he uses it now). The Nitto Big Front Rack might also be interesting, as his bike has a lower trail and reportedly rides well with weight in the front. What other options might you all experience with to accommodate a similar load? * Also please help me be less confused. There are Nitto MT Campees (for a 26 wheel?), Nitto Campees (R20?) that go for about $150, and then Nitto Campees with low rider attachments for front or rear that go for $280. Will the regular ones ($150) accommodate panniers? Why must they all have the same name? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?
Sorry to dredge an older thread but I thought I would share a photo that I took at the Bicycle Museum in Sakai City, Japan that I too last week. I had earlier commented on how it looked like an older 80's mountain bike and after seeing the bike below I am even more convinced. The bike in the photo is 1 of 10 original Breezer mountain bikes built. https://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/13749049105/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Patrick, If you start getting particular about your gearing preferences, I think the whole issue becomes quite subjective and driven by personal preferences. Michael clearly likes his arrangements, which I certainly don't, and he specifically recommends against arrangements I use and particularly like. What you are going to like is, ... well I guess I haven't much of a clue. But as a counterpoint to Michael's take I will submit the following. When I change rings, I want to it change my gear by more than a cog or two in the back would. For me changing rings is about moving back towards (or past) the center of the cassette after working towards one end (or avoiding going out to towards the end in the first place). Back in the 70s I rode 44/52 rings with a 14-18 freewheel and liked it a lot. But now that many of us have moved from 5 cog freewheels to 9 cog cassettes, I think larger differences between chainrings make more sense and work better. When I used to race I really valued one tooth steps in back, but now days I am more relaxed about effort and two tooth steps in the middle cogs seems ok and the increased range back there seems worth the loss in resolution. If your cassette has steps of two teeth in your cruising gears and three or four teeth on the big end then that also argues for bigger steps in your chainrings than a cassette that has one and two tooth steps. As is so often the case what you like is up to you, and you should ride what you like. I hope you enjoy figuring out what works best for you and your preferences. regards Ted On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:36:16 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Deacon, I'm sitting in an Inn after a hard drive across a chunk of Md., all of Delaware, NJ, and up NY to Rhinebeck so my brain is too tired for a full answer. So here's the short version. All gearing combinations involve trade offs among 4 variables - hi/low which you have identified; but also how big the jumps are between gears; the ease of getting from one gear to the next; and where your favorite gears are. The wider the hi/low range the wider the steps between gears, but this can be counteracted to some degree by going to a dbl and then a triple. A wide range cassette always yields large steps between gears, which I don't like. I usually run a 12-27 or at most an 11-28. Even with that, on our riding in flat Virginia I only used 3 gears but two of them were too far apart. So the double will let you get a pretty wide range with smaller steps. But with many doubles the next gear can be an awkward front shift and a 2 or 3 click rear shift leaving you between the gear you would really like. A ring difference of 10 tends to yield the simplest shifting pattern - a single click to the next gear. 14 tooth difference yields 2 clicks to the next gear. I tend to find the 12 difference leaving me between gears. I try to create sets with about 10% between gears especially in the most used middle. Finally, think about which gears you use the most and try to get a good chain line and easy pattern between them. I rarely use a ratio of less than 1 to 1 and never more than 4-1. For example my Ram has a 44/30 and an 11/27 while the Saluki a 48/34/26 (24 for big long climbs) with a 12-27. The tandem, likes easy shifting, so 48/38/28 with a 12-27. It feels very stressful to me to try to spin a ratio much below 1-1 fast enough to keep a bike upright for a long time. To each his own. Simplification is good, over simplification makes life more complicated than it needs to be. Michael On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To
[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Exactly, Ted. The set-up you describe is precisely what I'm looking forward to moving toward. I'd go with even more difference in the front than 24/36 except that I want to mostly ride the 36, only dropping into the granny if essential, ideally only when leaded. Since I'm happy with the top end of 36 now, I see no reason to go up and lose personal preference functionality (I believe that is the technical term for what we're talking about. Grin.). With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:20:59 PM UTC-6, ted wrote: Patrick, If you start getting particular about your gearing preferences, I think the whole issue becomes quite subjective and driven by personal preferences. Michael clearly likes his arrangements, which I certainly don't, and he specifically recommends against arrangements I use and particularly like. What you are going to like is, ... well I guess I haven't much of a clue. But as a counterpoint to Michael's take I will submit the following. When I change rings, I want to it change my gear by more than a cog or two in the back would. For me changing rings is about moving back towards (or past) the center of the cassette after working towards one end (or avoiding going out to towards the end in the first place). Back in the 70s I rode 44/52 rings with a 14-18 freewheel and liked it a lot. But now that many of us have moved from 5 cog freewheels to 9 cog cassettes, I think larger differences between chainrings make more sense and work better. When I used to race I really valued one tooth steps in back, but now days I am more relaxed about effort and two tooth steps in the middle cogs seems ok and the increased range back there seems worth the loss in resolution. If your cassette has steps of two teeth in your cruising gears and three or four teeth on the big end then that also argues for bigger steps in your chainrings than a cassette that has one and two tooth steps. As is so often the case what you like is up to you, and you should ride what you like. I hope you enjoy figuring out what works best for you and your preferences. regards Ted On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:36:16 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Deacon, I'm sitting in an Inn after a hard drive across a chunk of Md., all of Delaware, NJ, and up NY to Rhinebeck so my brain is too tired for a full answer. So here's the short version. All gearing combinations involve trade offs among 4 variables - hi/low which you have identified; but also how big the jumps are between gears; the ease of getting from one gear to the next; and where your favorite gears are. The wider the hi/low range the wider the steps between gears, but this can be counteracted to some degree by going to a dbl and then a triple. A wide range cassette always yields large steps between gears, which I don't like. I usually run a 12-27 or at most an 11-28. Even with that, on our riding in flat Virginia I only used 3 gears but two of them were too far apart. So the double will let you get a pretty wide range with smaller steps. But with many doubles the next gear can be an awkward front shift and a 2 or 3 click rear shift leaving you between the gear you would really like. A ring difference of 10 tends to yield the simplest shifting pattern - a single click to the next gear. 14 tooth difference yields 2 clicks to the next gear. I tend to find the 12 difference leaving me between gears. I try to create sets with about 10% between gears especially in the most used middle. Finally, think about which gears you use the most and try to get a good chain line and easy pattern between them. I rarely use a ratio of less than 1 to 1 and never more than 4-1. For example my Ram has a 44/30 and an 11/27 while the Saluki a 48/34/26 (24 for big long climbs) with a 12-27. The tandem, likes easy shifting, so 48/38/28 with a 12-27. It feels very stressful to me to try to spin a ratio much below 1-1 fast enough to keep a bike upright for a long time. To each his own. Simplification is good, over simplification makes life more complicated than it needs to be. Michael On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking.
Re: [RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain
Sounds exactly like something I would expect coming from his shop! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to come out in the last decade or so. Appears he does no longer, but Jeff Jones for a time modified the 9 into a 6 speed cassette with a 36 (or is it 38? Will have to check) low gear. The modified cassette works with a single speed hub allowing for less dish on the wheel. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:26:55 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Define shifting ease? There's really no difference between 8 or 9 in amount of effort to shift??? I really like 9 speed for the 36T cassette though. Best bike component to come out in the last decade or so. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Another great point to consider, as I'm currently using an 8 speed cassette. How much drop off in shifting ease have you experienced with your 9x2 in the rear vs. an 8, David? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:03:38 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Larry, eight speed is nice as well, as they still use a regular chain. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:02 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick my friend, Not exactly to the point, but I think 7-speed rear clusters are at the pinacle of bike gear technology. They are more forgiving when shifting, last longer, have wider chains. Simple and practical! A nice wide range 2X7 Roll on! Best, Larry On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here is the gear ration range comparison: In gain ratios: Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be dropping): 1.5 - 6 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36) 1.6 - 4.7 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36) 1.3 - 6 I don't really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here? I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. I'd love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly to the number of hills i'm walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it's better to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the climbs without killing myself. All wisdom deeply appreciated. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Used (Vince's) 60cm Betty Foy at Rivbike
The Betty and the 59 San Marcos didn't last long! --Tom (Miami) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Mini Front Rack 32F
This one: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r2.htm Used but never abused. $95 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
I am 190 and running my Barlow Pass tires at 65 rear and 60 front. I may try an go a bit lower to see if things get better (they areally nice as is). It is all pretty subjective when it comes to preference. Start somewhere, keep track and experiment. Road surface, conditioning, length of ride, mood, amount of sleep, weather will all play a role/ :0 On Monday, April 7, 2014 10:18:07 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: In my last exchange with Jan he asserted rolling resistance was basically i dependent of tire pressure, baring riding flat tires and very high pressures (or maybe it was ultra high). I don't think he mentioned 15% drop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Shop in Chicago?
Go to Turin. It used to be a co-op but now operated by Lee who started Lake shoes. Lore has it that back when it was still a co-op Mark Nobilette and Bruce Gordon learned their trade there. They usually have stuff nobody else does and there's always something cool in the stand. The new Ancien shop usually has a couple of a couple of older Rivs inside; not for sale though. They belong to one of the shops owners who was good enough to let me poke around before they were opened. - Captain Conway -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Big Front Rack
found one, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 26 Tire Suggestions?
Compass 2. Great tires that are as fast for me as jack B's or Hetres. And they look great on a Miyata! https://flic.kr/p/jdSiwd Brian Hanson Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Mini Front Rack 32F
sold! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Miesha's Cork Grips (Bar-end Version) Pletscher Twin-Legger Kickstand
Hi I am looking for these two items, especially the grips that are currently out of stock at Riv. Please drop me a line! I am located in San Francisco, CA. Thanks, Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: QuickBeam Wheelset
Wheelset from my (newish to me) QuickBeam is sitting unused...bearings are super smooth These are the 120/100 Suzue hubs (freewheel on both sides)...all silver in GREAT shape how does $250 plus shipping sound? thanks! thomas in Parker, CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
