> I have failed.
What absolute self indulgent rubbish. It's in fine shape. We just need a bit
of positivity around here. Yes and time. And maybe a Summer of Code or
perhaps even Kickstarter. Rather than making sweeping statements perhaps a
plan is in order.
R
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The Rosegarden team is proud to announce the release of version 12.04 of
Rosegarden, an audio and MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor for Linux.
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
Ted Felix and Tom "Tehom" Breton did the biggest part of the work that went
into this release. Ted is a masoch
Rosegarden does pretty much all I need it to do. Yes, it has a few
niggling (and apparently very hard to find) bugs, but no showstoppers that
are easily worked around.
As far as a future direction and additional features, you guys should
check out the Impro-Visor project and maybe give it a spin
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, Richard Bown wrote:
> > I have failed.
>
> What absolute self indulgent rubbish.
I'm glad my heartfelt outpouring of emotion is self-indulgent rubbish.
I don't really care what you think either, as far as that goes. I've had it
up to here with criticism. It strikes
Actually, this David was only semi-joking about the matrix editor. I
look at pieces of programs as resource costs. Resources spent on the
matrix editor are not available for use on what I consider more
important parts of the program. For what it's worth, I've have liked
matrix editors for music
On 05/07/2012 12:08 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> On 07/05/12 23:05, Brett McCoy wrote:
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM, david wrote:
>>
>> Notation can be done with Lilypond,
>
> No please leave it in and value the notation! Notation as a
> composition/creation tool as well, yes the typesetting
On 05/06/2012 02:06 AM, bart deruyter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thanks for the explanation, but it is really sad to hear that. It sounds
> to me that rosegarden is not moving along with the new technologies. In
> my opinion that only means one thing : the end for it.
>
> I've made my final decision, I'm not
On 05/06/2012 12:58 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Saturday, May 05, 2012, bart deruyter wrote:
>
>> The other issue remains though, why does rosegarden make such a mess of
>> jack when it exits?
>
> I expect Rosegarden doesn't play nice with whatever "ladish" is. I don't
> remember what that
On Mon, 7 May 2012, david wrote:
> > It could all have something to do with all the newest latest and
> > greatest stuff in the most recent distro too. I'm still running
> > 10.04. It looks like upgrading to 12.04 is going to involve a fairly
> > painful migration process getting settled in with t
On Tue, 8 May 2012, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> The Rosegarden team is proud to announce the release of version 12.04 of
> Rosegarden, an audio and MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor for Linux.
>
> http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
Whoohoo! My beloved Rosegarden isn't dead at all!
Thank
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, david wrote:
> Hmm, so RG12.04 requires KDE$? If so, what a great step backwards!
No, not at all. Me dealing with the KDE migration is only because I run KDE
personally.
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On 05/07/2012 11:14 PM, Holger Marzen wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2012, david wrote:
>
>>> It could all have something to do with all the newest latest and
>>> greatest stuff in the most recent distro too. I'm still running
>>> 10.04. It looks like upgrading to 12.04 is going to involve a fairly
>>> pai
On 05/07/2012 11:20 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, david wrote:
>
>> Hmm, so RG12.04 requires KDE$? If so, what a great step backwards!
>
> No, not at all. Me dealing with the KDE migration is only because I run KDE
> personally.
Ahh, that's enough stress load already
I just wanted to add my support for the enthusiasm and effort
Michael has made supporting RG for as long as he has.
I have used RG sporadically over the last three years and I
have always been impressed by what has been achieved
by people just working for the enjoyment and limited (if
any) financi
Sorry for cross post but want to hit developers too here.
>> or perhaps even Kickstarter.
>
> Money could help if there were enough of it.
To do kickstarter there would have to be a definite goal, a core collective, an
output and some enticing pledge material. I'll have a think about this and
Quoting "D. Michael McIntyre" :
> The most notable change for this release is a feature we hope you
> will find to
> be completely transparent. Tom has labored for months to get through a
> gantlet of challenges and deliver automatic MIDI channel allocation. Instead
> of having a permanent, f
> http://ardour.org/node/5003
Some ideas here re: Kickstarter.
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On 26 April 2012 10:58, D. Michael McIntyre
wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2012, Abrolag wrote:
>
>> The first is that an audio segment doesn't show any contents for several
>> bars although it plays correctly. With some of my shorter segments this
>> means I don't get to see anything at all.
>
> I'm afraid I don't have any useful contribution to the larger
> questions going on here at the moment, but I did find a bit of time to
> track down this bug and I've committed a fix.
Excellent. Shame driven bug fixing.
R
What it all seems to come down to is attracting more developers. It seems
to me that there needs to be a multipronged approach.
To attract more developers, it could help to expand the user base. If we
had people evangelizing Rosegarden to the end user, we could expand the
user base. I have presente
David,
I played around a bit with the Windows alpha and it seemed to work pretty
well; I believe that project is ongoing but there are others who are more
familiar with its progress than I.
--Tom
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:21 AM, David Tisdell wrote:
> What it all seems to come down to is attra
The Windows alpha is something I knocked together with a view to completing at
least the MIDI portion at some point this year.
Mac I can't do anything about at the moment as I don't have one. However
perhaps that's a good angle to pursue with Kickstarter if there are more
developers interested
Can a link be added to the alpha for Windows on the main Rosegarden website
(If I didn't have the announcement archived, I wouldn't be able to easily
find it)? It can have the disclaimer as being an Alpha but I have tried
alpha software in the past that was fairly useful. Just that in itself
shows
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:02 AM, David Tisdell wrote:
> Perhaps as a starting point we could "shake the tree" for developers on
> Linux audio user lists, wikis, etc. since Linux is the platform of origin.
> The core work should begin here and ports created as new features are worked
> out. As a m
I'd think there is more bang for the buck in focusing on the Windows port
rather than starting a new Mac port. Although since OSX is really just BSD
Unix with a pretty face, it might be easier to do.
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Richard Bown <
richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com> wrote:
> Th
David Tisdell wrote:
> When I am writing, I almost always begin with the notation editor. Vitally
> important tool. One of the things I like about RG is that it adapts well
> whatever your approach to composition.
>
Fascinating -- that people work *so* differently.
I write J-language programs that
D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> ...
> I have failed.
Waay too hard on yourself.
You need a (free) weekend in Acapulco!
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I agree on the "More bang for the buck" on a Windows port but JACK already
runs on OS X as do some JACK aware apps. Percentage of the user base wise,
the Mac has historically more people creating content (Don't know if that
is true today) and it is fully POSIX compliant whereas Windows is not. It
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, David Tisdell wrote:
> I agree on the "More bang for the buck" on a Windows port but JACK already
> runs on OS X as do some JACK aware apps. Percentage of the user base wise,
> the Mac has historically more people creating content (Don't know if that is
> true to
Yes, but for the windows port so far audio isn't in scope. And if it was I
probably wouldn't do it with JACK I have to say. Purely because I've got bored
of fancy APIs for stuff and different models you're forced to adopt to use
them, ALSA and JACK did it for me.
Midi with Rtmidi and ? for a
The attempt at a Mac port was done before the codebase had been moved to
qt. It was installed through fink. I exchanged email with the person who
had tried it and he had run into significant problems because of KDE
dependencies and he gave up.
Nice to hear about the commercial version of Ardour th
On 8 May 2012 17:18, David Tisdell wrote:
> The attempt at a Mac port was done before the codebase had been moved to qt.
> It was installed through fink. I exchanged email with the person who had
> tried it and he had run into significant problems because of KDE
> dependencies and he gave up.
I
I've managed to compile rosegarden under our good friend cygwin on windows in
the past, it compiled pretty much out of the box. No sequencing of course, but
it all looked right. I also have access to a couple of macs here at work so if
no one's looking one lunchtime I could see how far the compi
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Ian Gardner wrote:
> is to write an implementation for the virtual midi/sequencer interface in
> rg in terms of Jack, and you can have a fully portable codebase to all
> platforms out of the box (with the help of cygwin on windows) with midi and
> audio magically w
On Tue, 8 May 2012 14:00:02 +0100
Chris Cannam wrote:
> On 26 April 2012 10:58, D. Michael McIntyre
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 25, 2012, Abrolag wrote:
> >
> >> The first is that an audio segment doesn't show any contents for several
> >> bars although it plays correctly. With some of my s
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, PMA wrote:
> Waay too hard on yourself.
> You need a (free) weekend in Acapulco!
There is real truth in that. I've literally never taken a proper go somewhere
and see something sort of vacation since the last one I took with my family as
a kid. That was 1
On Tue, 08 May 2012 08:53:39 +0200
Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> On 08/05/12 02:36, David Tisdell wrote:
> ...
> > One of the things I like about RG is that it
> > adapts well whatever your approach to composition.
>
> +1 very well said.
> Lorenzo.
Indeed.
On the promotional side...
For what it's wo
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, j...@it-he.org wrote:
> Is it possible to disable this behaviour by default?
No, but please do experiment and see how you fare. The theory is you should
only experience the minor inconvenience of having to go set a bunch of things
from 'auto' to 'fixed' and you should
D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, PMA wrote:
>
>> Waay too hard on yourself.
>> You need a (free) weekend in Acapulco!
>
> There is real truth in that. I've literally never taken a proper go somewhere
> and see something sort of vacation since the last one I took w
>
> > There is real truth in that. I've literally never taken a proper go
> somewhere
> > and see something sort of vacation since the last one I took with my
> family as
> > a kid. That was 1987.
>
> Well, your constitution must be incredible.
> After that, I'd have been in a Happy Farm
> long s
Hello everyone!
That's a lot that does not speak in this ml-list!
I also have something to say on the future of rosegarden. I really like
rosegarden. But I'm a maniac lilypond, mainly by Frescobaldi, because
exploitation of power by lilypond rosegarden is, forgive me, ridiculous and
depressing
On 8 May 2012 18:57, D. Michael McIntyre
wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, PMA wrote:
>
>> Waay too hard on yourself.
>> You need a (free) weekend in Acapulco!
>
> There is real truth in that.
Hang on, did I miss something? Is someone offering a free weekend in Acapulco?
Chris
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On 8 May 2012 08:23, Richard Bown wrote:
>> I have failed.
>
> What absolute self indulgent rubbish.
Though a very nicely constructed extended metaphor.
I think you're sort-of right that the proper answer ought to be a nice
brisk one about how it's just going the way it has to go and if it
isn't
On 8 May 2012, at 22:46, Chris Cannam wrote:
> But you and I have had a lot of time off from this project, and I
> guess both of us did that because we felt a bit like Michael
Indeed. It's a soul wrecker this software.
R
Chris Cannam wrote:
> On 8 May 2012 18:57, D. Michael McIntyre
> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, PMA wrote:
>>
>>> Waay too hard on yourself.
>>> You need a (free) weekend in Acapulco!
>>
>> There is real truth in that.
>
> Hang on, did I miss something? Is someone offering a free
Richard Bown wrote:
>>
>>> There is real truth in that. I've literally never taken a proper go
>> somewhere
>>> and see something sort of vacation since the last one I took with my
>> family as
>>> a kid. That was 1987.
>>
>> Well, your constitution must be incredible.
>> After that, I'd have bee
On Tue, 8 May 2012 14:04:27 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre" wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, j...@it-he.org wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to disable this behaviour by default?
>
> No, but please do experiment and see how you fare. The theory is you should
> only experience the minor inconvenience
On Tue, 8 May 2012, Abrolag wrote:
> On the promotional side...
> For what it's worth, absolutely every track on my website - and there are one
> or
> two there :) - was developed and performed using Rosegarden. This includes
> controlling both hardware and soft synths, hydrogen drum machine and
On Tue, 8 May 2012, J.P. Morris wrote:
>>> Is it possible to disable this behaviour by default?
>> No, but please do experiment and see how you fare. The theory is you should
> Yes. Unfortunately it meant having to set ALL of them to fixed, but it was
I didn't have time to try the new Rosega
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