A local jewelry supply has 99.9% pure fine silver wire in 18 GA.
Is this pure enough? And is any correction to the various recipes
needed for diameter?
It only costs about a buck a foot, so I'm sure it's not the same as
the 99.99% pure stuff sold for 10 times that for electrode use.
Does
Trying to make my first batch of CS.
On my first attempt, I used 8 oz of tap water that had been filtered
by a good pressed block charcoal filter. From what I remember it
removes lots of impurities, including the chlorine, pcb's, thm's,
etc, but leaves the floride and most of the dissolved salts.
Jade asked whether we could standardise a recipe. I suspect that
there are any number of effective procedures for making our CS, but
the problem is knowing which variables are important and how they
effect the product.
A series of experiments are in order, *some* of which would be
fairly
Am I right to understand that Bob Beck is the person who promoted
this do-it-yourself CS generator technique? How much detail does he
give about the theory behind the production method? Or did he just
give a specific recipe that has spawned the numerous variations that
we see now?
What are
MaryJ wrote:
* Go to: http://www.explorepub.com/articles/beck/hiv_article.html
Also go to: http://www.sota-inc.com/index.html
Been there. Need to scan the hiv article again to see how much he
says about CS in there...
* Following is a do-it-yourself paper, hope this is not redundant at
Maxwell, Scott,
Petri dishes don't have kidneys!, to coin a phrase!
Can you tell me more about the role of the kidney in relation to
CS?
I used this phrase a couple of times with Mr. Nowell last week to
counter his argument that a silver preparation must be able to kill
bacteria in a
Thank you, Mr. Nowell, for your courtesy of replying to my
assertions...
Whatever one takes in is utilized or excreted by one's bodily
adaptogenic efficiency at the MAXIMUM rate regardless of the
amount.
One of the first things I had to get past when I began looking at CS
was the *idiots*
Hi Jack and list,
I've been waiting for the flames to die down before I jumped into
the foray. I guess there is a certain segment that needs to vent
themselves.
Since I took part in that discussion, I guess I'm partly responsible.
Although I wouldn't consider what I wrote to be flames, I
Jack wrote:
[ Suggested treatment for prostatitis snipped ]
Anyway, I pee freely and have no problem otherwise so I can
freely pass on my success story.
There has *got* to be a pun in there somewhere. A *really* *BAD*
one! I just can't quite get it out. vbg
Mike (with all due respect and
Scott wrote:
Let me just throw a word in about the mild silver protein.
First, I have never used it, I don't need it, I have more colloidal
silver than I can use.
I've got as much as I could possibly want, as well!
Another thing, Bob Beck, one of the pioneers in the field electro
medical
The correct URL for Peter Lindemann's article at the Elixa web site
is:
http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm
Sorry for the misquote.
Mike
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net ]
[Speaking only for himself... ]
Haven't heard anything from the silver-list in days. You all still
there? No need to respond to the list. E-mail direct is fine.
Mike
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net ]
[Speaking only for himself... ]
On 10 Dec 97 at 9:43, Nancy wrote:
QUESTION:
Do the wires get resistant to yielding the silver particles after
many uses? Is there a recommended life to these wires?
They are still shiny silver when you begin, virtually unchanged in
diameter from when you started using them, and behave the
On 10 Dec 97 at 9:44, Nancy wrote:
My doctor did suggest that to me last spring, as I was only taking
3 TBS of 8 ppm bid, whereas other pt.s of his were taking 3 oz. of
45 ppm daily as a therapeutic dose. The lesser would be fine as a
maintenance dose, but for me, only kept Lyme at bay; it
Hello Paul, and welcome to the silver list.
On 12 Dec 97 at 18:09, you wrote:
I have read on the net that a white(clear) colloidal silver
solution is worthless if not dangerous. The white cloud of silver
particals indicate that the particals are too large to work as
colloid and may cause
On 13 Dec 97 at 0:22, Scott Berner wrote:
Mike, I have some problems with a couple of things you just
published, nothing personal. :)
Yeah! I can see that. Simmer down Scott. He di'n mean nuthin' by it.
He wuz jest a'talkin. Now put the gun away before ya git us all inta
trouble! big grin
I
Here's the address for that colloidal mineral supplement company:
http://www.advancedbio.com/index.html
It's strictly a commercial site, so caveat emptor. I'd appreciate
comments and reccomendations from anybody on the list that has input.
Thanks,
Mike
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot,
I got the contact information for this device from Nancy (THANKS!)
and contacted Dr. Ripley via phone.
It turns out he has a modest web site on which you will see an early
model (or prototype, I'm not sure) of his CS generator, and be able
to read a few comments and remarks from him about it.
The list-bot thus spake:
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TJ,
Funny, as humor goes, but not so pleasing if you happen to support
the Clinton's. Some of our members undoubtedly do, so please watch
out for the political jokes. They don't really belong.
I figured I'd comment on it before too many others did.
Mike D.
list-owner
TJ wrote:
... The cop
Yo Turf!
[Good description of technique snipped...]
Isn't the blackness on the positive electrode as well as what
causes the silver to go yellow silver oxide? ... It will yellow
less if it splashes (oxygenates) less while filtering. A batch
will always turn yellow on me when I store a small
Robert Berger wrote:
I would like to know the name of the conductivity meter that reads
in nanometers.
Hi Bob,
Are you responding to my posting about Hannah Instruments PWT, a
unit I *said* measured in nanoSiemens? Oops! It should indeed be
*micro*Siemens. I was working entirely from memory
Dear silver list members,
Many of you that are on the list today probably weren't around last
January when I took over. So I think I ought to let you know how I
came to be in this position and what I'm trying to accomplish.
I joined the list almost 2 years ago, looking for people who could
James wrote:
Thanks for the information.
You're welcome!
Do you know where I can get any information correlating conductance
and PPM in order to use a TDS meter to determine concentration?
What is the approximate % error using the method?
We still have to create it, James!
The basic
James wrote:
According to folks who have tried, a TDS meter---in reality a very
low range meg-ohmmeter calibrated to read in micro-Siemens or TDS-is
not usable to determine conc. of Ag sol.
The TDS meters from Hannah are indeed *conductance* meters. They
*are* usable to achieve consistancy
Ivan wrote:
As to the particle size and colour of CS, Otswald formulated the
rule, that the variation in colour of metal sols is due to a
shifting of the absorption maximum (of visible light) towards the
regions of longer wavelength with decreasing degree of dispersion
and Mie found that the
John wrote:
[Good advice on simple LVDC unit snipped...]
A High voltage AC maker can be made using a used Neon sign
transformer.
Just be REALLY CAREFUL if you decide to experiment with this sort of
setup. There are lethal voltages and currents involved and if you
don't know your way around
Glenda and all,
I haven't set up an accessible archive, although I think a while
back someone subscribed some kind of list archiver to recieve our
postings. Does anyone want to tell us about that?
Please do tell us about this Thumpy device, plus pointers to other
sources of info on it. I've
Ted wrote:
These are interesting URL's. I have been using CS for several years
and I have yet to see any change in my skin color. I find it
interesting that this woman is the only person to develop this
problem. I notice the articles do not mention how long she took the
nose drops. Any
John in CT,
Here's an introduction to a few web sites which can help a new person
get familiar with the subject of CS. Others will have suggestions as
well, since there are a great many resources on the web.
Mike
Greetings and welcome to the silver-list. This FAQ will give you a
brief
Mark,
I would not consider this off topic, in context. You're a member of
our little community and we want you healthy!
My only comment: This is a good enough reason to swish a little CS
around in your mouth for a few minutes every day, even without
swallowing. Has anyone else improved their
Ted Burgis wrote:
Everyone seems to have a different opinion!!
Damn right!!
Small dc units are no good, as the particle size is too small.
Or too big! grin
Cook for only 20 minutes.
Cook for an hour.
Depending upon temperature and what concetration you're trying to
reach, yes!
Time
advocate...
-
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date sent:Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:01:40 -5
Subject: Argyria and blue people
Regarding Joyce's concerns about argyria, Donna wrote:
Joyce,
I had this fear awhile ago
Dean Woodward wrote:
Makes me wonder if less really is better, and if so why. Could it be
that the silver particles are far enough apart in the colloid that
they have less inclination to floculate, and therefore are available
to function.
Vern wrote:
I questioned some of the more is
Additional information that is useful to the new members (and
others!) regarding managing your subscription...
Just a reminder, everyone, especially to the new folks or those who
haven't dealt with a Smartlist mailing list before...
Many of the mailing lists you might have dealt with are run
Nancy wrote:
Please tell me the address of the silver list web site. I don't think
I had it bookmarked yet. I just saved an extra copy of the FAQ to
have on hand. Nice job, Mike!
When there's something on the website worth the trip, I'll repost the address.
At this point it is a skeleton
Vilik wrote:
How many of us are there on the silver list right now? And does the
silver list have a digest form?
About 220 people subscribed to either the list or the digest, which we do have
available. It goes up and down by a few from day to day.
The instructions for switching lists
Dear list,
Here's a repost of an introductory FAQ file that has info to help you get
started, in case anyone has signed on during this lull and is wondering what's
going on. Don't be afraid to ask questions and start a discussion.
Be well,
Mike D.
Greetings and welcome to the silver-list.
The rife list is another Smartlist mailing list just like this one.
Be sure you put the word subscribe in the *SUBJECT* field, not the
body of the message.
Smartlist ignores the body entirely, and only looks in the subject
field for commands. It's a common mixup with lists run on the
Majordomo
Shelley wrote:
Anyone else on this list have any up-dates on Dameon?
Does anyone have a snail mail address for Dameon? Is he at home or
still in the hospital?
It would be nice to send him a card.
Be well,
Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net
Hi Nancy,
The list web page is still empty. I've worked on my local copy a
little bit, but even that's not very far along. So there's no content
for them to glean from it.
The best thing we have would be the Intro and Overview FAQ I've so
frequently reposted, the most recent version of which
Shelly asked:
There was some discussion of whether or not CS antibiotics
cancel each other out. Did this question ever get answered
definitively?
Vincent Gammill replied:
CS and antibiotics do not cancel each other out. This is
definitive. You can take it to the bank.
Reid retorted:
Just want to welcome the several new subscribers I've helped to sign
on in the last couple of days.
Most of you sent your subscribe message to the list posting address,
so I had to do it manually. If, in the future, you follow the
instructions at the bottom of every message from the list,
Awww, yer all a bunch of anarchists! Warms my heart! LOL GRIN
Still, Deb, if you could let us know what you find out I for one
would really appreciate it. If it's really a worthwhile effort we
should know.
I'm skeptical whenever govt offers to help us. If they start
funding research, they start
Jon wrote:
Hi everyone,
As you can tell I'm still very new. How do you measure PPM?
Thanks
Hi Jon,
You'll get a variety of answers to this question, but let me try to
summarize. This is an important subject. This may be the start of
another FAQ file...
* Testing Labs:
The only
This info from Clay bounced to the listowner's account at Eskimo,
because, of course, the word subscription appeared in the subject
line. That's Smartlist's clever way of protecting us from sub/unsub
messages to the list. g
FYI...
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998
Donna wrote:
This is the first post from the list I have received in a long
time.
I have 4 from today (this will be the fifth), none from the 28th, 5
from the 27th, 2 each from the 26th and 25th, and 8 from the 24th.
The last really big day was the 22nd with about 26 postings.
Traffic has
Just checking if there have been any problems for the list, other
than the lull we've seen the last couple of days.
At least one person got a major spam-dump that *seemed* to be linked
to the list. But I've not seen anything out of the ordinary.
So have I been cleverly excluded from the
TJ wrote:
Mike, every Friday my e mail box gets corrupted. My provider says
that after he erased my box today, a message from eskimo.com came
back as a program. I have absolutely no idea what that means!! Do
you do anything differently on Friday?
I do nothing at all on Friday that's any
John in CT wrote:
Some of you may or may not have heard of the Y2k computer
problems. After much research, I am taking it very seriously. ...
Colloidal Silver will play an important role in the survival of the
survivors. I hope you all can see the significance and the
importance of truthful
Okay, this is a *reply* to my last posting. If you get *two*
identical copies of this, please let me know in e-mail.
Thanks,
Mike D.
On 22 Sep 98 at 7:09, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
It seams Dean is getting duplicate copies of each posting I send
out, or of each Reply: I send to the
It seams Dean is getting duplicate copies of each posting I send out,
or of each Reply: I send to the list.
Dean, please tell me if this original posting gets dittoed. Then tell
me in e-mail if the reply I'm going to send to this message does.
If anyone else gets *two* copies of either or
Whitney wrote:
But I still wonder *what* those particles are. You pointed out that
all we have here is pure H2O and silver, but we have some air, too.
So, if the particles are anything besides pure microscopic silver,
could they be some combination of silver with the other elements
When you've got an answer, please post it, Dean.
I would guess that many list members are not making full use of the
filtering and archiving features available in their e-mail programs.
Too many folks are just letting the silver list arrive in their
mailboxes mixed with everything else, and it
Marsha and Robert,
Each message I'm sending to the list is being reflected to you twice?
Are the two copies identical, including all the headers, and time of
delivery, etc.?
So far, nothing has changed at my end. I'm subscribed to the list
here at id.net, just like the rest of you are. The
Dear silver-listers,
In case anyone doesn't remember what this is all about, I've added
the 3 letter tag CS to the subject line of each message. This is to
help you to group and/or filter your silver-list postings apart from
the rest of the e-mail cluttering up your mail box.
Let's see how this
Well, that wasn't as hard as it *could* have been!
Let's see if they nest, or not...
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net ]
[Speaking only for myself... ]
--
The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.
This is only a test
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net ]
[Speaking only for myself... ]
--
The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.
To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail
Here's this week's reposting of the intro and overview FAQ. It's a
quick tour of representative web sites that will get you thinking and
talking the language of CS. This and the answers you get from the
rest of the group should help you get started.
Welcome Marsha from Virginian and John from
Carl J. wrote:
Hope I don't get in trouble for cross posting...
Definitely on topic, Carl.
If any of you want to reply to the message from the silver-list,
please delete all but Carl's e-mail address and the list address
from the To: and CC: fields of your message. That will minimize
message
Someone want to volunteer to forward that digest to Wayne?
his addresswlaure...@bigfoot.com
I deleted my copy already. I only subscribe to the digest to make
sure it stays working.
Be well,
Mike D.
Wayne wrote:
This is all that was received of V98 #275.
[Mike Devour, Citizen,
We've had a number of new members join recently. I'd like to repost
this FAQ for their benefit. Welcome aboard, folks!
Greetings and welcome to the silver-list. This FAQ will give you a
brief introduction to the world of Colloidal Silver and an overview by
way of a few decent web sites.
Mike Rhyner wrote:
Most lists that I am on, have the name of the list as
the first word of the subject line of each post.
This makes it easy to do an Edit-Sort-Sort By Subject
and have all the posts by a certain list all in one
block which makes it easier to find past posts in the list.
Gosh, I don't know what to say, Mike! Every time I've ever read an
article like this I scratch my head and wonder. Free energy, clean
energy, zero point energy... Star Trek here we come! Such a beautiful
future awaits...
The problem always seems to be the isolated crank who's invented
or
Bob Lee wrote:
... taking CS by mouth is also required. Start with two teaspoons a
day.After a few days increase to three spoons a day, them four
spoons a day.Keep it up for two weeks.
Hi Bob and Sandy,
Two comments about this advice:
1) You don't say anything about the concentration of
Jim (Corbitt?) wrote:
The TDS is Total Dissolved Solids meter. A TDS meter is not an
accurate way to measure colloidal silver, as a colloidal particle is
larger than a dissolved particle, and the conductivity is different.
You are correct, Jim, but you're overlooking the usefulness of the
Bob Lee wrote:
Most plant operators know that a lot of automatic things will have
to be done manually for awhile and are putting on more
people,getting ready for it. Instead of one man sitting in a
control room just looking at the control boards there will by many
men in the control room
JohnJ jo...@access.mountain.net wrote:
Dear Marsha
How do you make your 30PPM solutions? I'm unsure of the potency of
mine and haven't had enough improvement with my Lyme Disease.
John,
There is an article at:
http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy/bodywght.html
that describes a
Reid wrote:
Also if you want to get even simpler on Becks tape he uses
one 9v battery. I don't think he was using distilled because it
started to produce a white smoke as soon as he put the rods in the
water.
Sounds like a great field expedient setup.
From _Miracle_in_the_North_, an as
Chris Gupta,
Thank you for correcting my error(s). As you can tell I haven't taken
the time yet to compile a decent library on CS or absorb all the
materials that are relevant. To that extent this is a case of the
blind leading the blind. I *am* dependent on people like yourself who
have
I'm going to reply to both Paul and Reid briefly, here. (Imagine
that, Mike being brief!?)
Paul wrote:
Mike, there's been so little of late about the CS protocol, I'd like to
suggest something to get us back to that--
I think the simplest setup possible, with the greatest possibility for
Hi List!
bjs posted some of the information and opinions from Thomas Miller's
site, http://www.bioelectrifier.com/silver.htm .
Bruce's response is more accusatory than appropriate, but does hit
the technical issues.
This points up the fact that the experts don't agree on all the
specifics of
This bounced to me at eskimo. Forwarding it...
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:24:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: W. D. Cavanaugh chuck...@iamerica.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Color (esp. for W. D. Cavanaugh)
My dear Nancy,
There has been a lot of comment on
I've sent the following message to Hanna Instruments:
Dear Sir or Madam:
I am the moderator of an online mailing list for people who are
studying colloidal silver (CS). One of our goals is to test some of
the many recipes that have been widely distributed in hopes of
shedding some light on what
Paul Bembower wrote:
I talked to a gentleman named Pete at Hanna Instruments in Rhode
Island, and told him exactly what it is I'm trying to do with CS,
and what range of PPM I am trying to achieve.
Sounds like a good plan so far! GRIN
He originally had intended to suggest the $15 TDS-1 or
loba kola wrote:
i joined because my 57 year old dad just had colon cancer surgery
... has chosen to go alternative/natural ... a great md who
practices alternative and nutritive therapies. ... to see if maybe
there is something here that can help, or someone here who has
some good advice.
Dameon wrote:
Thanks for that tid-bit about the world's population! I did *not*
know that everyone could fit into the state of Texas... but *who*
would want to live in *Texas*!! hehehehe
I don't know, Dameon, the Texans I've met have been a little bit
different for sure, but...
I've
W. D. Cavanaugh wrote:
I make my CS in a clear gallon pickle jar usually. I let it make
for about an hour. There is absolutely no sediment, and never a
need to stir-- the cloud floats from the wire. When the hour is
up, the CS in the jar has a lavender cast.
I've seen the lavendar cast
I've helped several new folks sign on to the list over the weekend.
Welcome aboard, everyone.
All of you sent your subscribe messages to silver-list@eskimo.com,
which bounce to me and get handled manually. If, in the future, you
send subscribe or unsubscribe instructions to:
Thank you for the update, John. I was thinking about you just
yesterday. You saved me digging through my archive to get your
address.
It sounds like you're progressing well and that you have a good
handle on the process. It's ironic that water purification is one of
the few widely recognised
Peter McLennan wrote:
Does anyone have info on cs effect upon giardia and
cryptosporidium?
Try this site from the gov't of British Colombia:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/epd/cpr/criteria/awqcfs.html
It's a report on Ambient Water Quality Criteria for Silver. The
good stuff is about half way
bjs wrote:
M. G. Devour wrote:
Pledges: I agree with those who want to keep the pledge funds
separate.
I respectivly disagree. There are those that want other people to
tell them what to do with their money, and there are those that
would like to make that decision for themselves.
Oops
Jim wrote:
I don't know about anyone else, but I did enjoy that story. Sat here
and cried my eyes out!!! Jim
Me too. Hard not to if you can imagine being in those parent's shoes
with one of your own.
Dragging myself back on topic...
Mike
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
Bruce wrote:
A thought on filtering these charged silver particles; will charged
ions of silver tend to be attracted to the filter matrix, even when
small enough to pass otherwise, because of their charge?
A suggested experiment:
Take your average batch of CS just after production, test
Doug McMurtrie wrote:
... the TDS-1 would, I think, take care of the ppm part.
Or it will, when we go ahead and do some cross-testing with the other
lab methods.
I have been wondering lately if there are any mechanical filters
capable of operation at such small sizes. ... If a mechanical
George Martin wrote:
Place the electrodes, still wet and full of fluff or oxide, on the
pieces of pre-weighed paper.
Bake in oven to drive off the water.
Weigh the combined paper/electrode/dried fluff. (Don't sneeze!)
Subtract the paper and you'll get the actual mass of
silver that
bjs wrote:
The medical community does use CS, of some sort, on burn victims. I
was just talking to a fellow last week whose son was badly burned.
He said they treated him with a substance containing silver. Other
than that he did not realize that silver could be used in other
areas. He was
Jeff wrote:
I have noticed some discussion about using microscopy to determine
particle size of CS.
...
In other words, the smallest particle that can be clearly seen in a
light microscope should be about 0.2 microns in diameter.
I've used a simplistic notion to try to predict this. A
Paul wrote:
One of the vendors of High-End CS machines mentions in his
advertising something called the International Colloidal Silver
Council as if this were some sort of quality control, or quality
*monitoring* group. Has anyone on this list ever heard of such a
group?
I've heard of
We could save some money and get quicker results if some of us could
do our own ppm testing. Here's a couple of ideas I'd like to discuss
and, hopefully, refine enough to make work.
The first idea is to evaporate a quantity of CS to be tested, say
100 ml (1/10th of a liter), and weigh the
Hi all.
One of the tools we have available to us is the total dissolved
solids meters from Hanna Instruments. A couple of models have been
looked at so far, the TDS-1 and the DIST-WP-1.
We talked a while back about trying to make a calibration standard
for these meters using salt in water.
George wrote:
DC Electricity.101 tells you that 3 batteries in series MUST be of
the SAME electrical size as to voltage/amperage/capacity. This is a
NO-NO!!!
Of course it will work for awhile BUT the output volage/amperage
will drop when the smaller battery is exhausted.
And if you keep
George Berezov wrote:
I am part of a group of colloidal silver users who use CS to help
hold our prostate cancer in check.Any one of us is an Electrical
Engineer with at least 25 years of experience (one of us is a
rocket scientist).
Welcome to the list George! Your experience and training
Doug wrote:
The least significant digit on the lcd readout is the 10's column.
Whatever the reading you get, you have to multply by 10 to get the
ppm. For example, if the readout says 33 then the true ppm is
330 - 340.
One person got a TDS-1 with the ones digit inoperative, I think. They
Whitney wrote:
The condition of my scalp improved dramatically. But the whole
thing lasted about two scary, unpleasant days (my typical Herx time)
and taught me a few things:
1. Never underestimate the possibility that a substance (especially
CS!) will be absorbed through the skin.
2.
Okay. Questions were raised about silver source, the light bulb (or
lack thereof), and using 4 batteries instead of 3.
I explained my reasons for not being concerned about the minor
impurities in the silver. I don't know if what I said made enough
sense.
I believe we can test the results with
Doug wrote:
Has anyone started building the CS generator per MGD's spec in the
suggested protocol? I'm collecting up the parts myself and should
have an operating one within a couple of days. ... At this point
have we agreed to go with Mike's protocol as it stands?
I don't think we've got
I don't know anything about Cisco except what we've seen on the list
and a few private e-mails. What does this message represent in terms
of truth? It is no more than characters on a screen to most of us
and we have no way to know.
In Cisco's case, I see an example of how easy it would be to
Thank you everyone for the smooth running list of the last couple of
weeks. All your efforts are having an effect on the momentum we're
feeling. A couple of topics are coming up that might upset some
folks and I'd like to comment on one of them here...
What I have to say is *for the sake of
On 21 Jul 98 at 12:54, Paul Bembower wrote:
Listmaintainer Mike: Please review this post to determine if the
little sales pitch I am putting here is consistent with the rules of
the list. If not, please do not post it, otherwise, remove this
paragraph and edit as you feel appropriate.
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