Re: CSUnidentified subject!
I am 77 yoa andsay AMEN to the post byReece Maxey. Bruce A. -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:22:58 -0600 Subject: CSUnidentified subject! As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org [http://www.silverlist.org/] Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-request%40eskimo.com]?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html [http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html] Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-off-topic-list%40eskimo.com] List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com [mailto:mdevour%40eskimo.com]
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
80 ya are. No not many but just for the record I am 86 1/2. I don't see that anybody here really has their panties in a bunch. Doesn't hurt to kick around ideas. Ron On 2/16/2015 10:22 AM, Reece Maxey wrote: As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject! Judy Down Maine responds
Oops! I won't be 80 until October. I haven't pitched in lately, but I trust this list implicitly. I also trust my Silver Puppy and make CS for several people. It is a service for friends my age and perhaps a dite (Maine slang) older. I charge $3 a pint. Also provide darling cobalt blue glass dropper bottles for carrying in purse. We are a healthy bunch, here in cool -- well, frigid -- Maine! Judy Down Mine -Original Message- From: Ron Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 1:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! 80 ya are. No not many but just for the record I am 86 1/2. I don't see that anybody here really has their panties in a bunch.cool Maine. Welll Doesn't hurt to kick around ideas. Ron On 2/16/2015 10:22 AM, Reece Maxey wrote: As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
RE: CSUnidentified subject!
Reece I won't be sending you any more emails. The only Silver-list email that I received is this one from you. I am not 80, but I am 71 and retired from the U.S. Army. I can see that you are satisfied with the Silver-list and am I the one referred to as bitching about being hung with a new rope? Floyd -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey [mailto:ozarko...@att.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
By no means did the hanging comment pertain to you, and bye the way, I retired from USAF in'73. First 10 were in US Army. That was a long time ago. Opa Sent from my iPad On Feb 16, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net wrote: Reece I won't be sending you any more emails. The only Silver-list email that I received is this one from you. I am not 80, but I am 71 and retired from the U.S. Army. I can see that you are satisfied with the Silver-list and am I the one referred to as bitching about being hung with a new rope? Floyd -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey [mailto:ozarko...@att.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
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I got this one Floyd. Opa Sent from my iPad On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net wrote: Well I spent the first 10 in the Air Force and the last 10 in the Army just the opposite. Floyd -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey [mailto:ozarko...@att.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! By no means did the hanging comment pertain to you, and bye the way, I retired from USAF in'73. First 10 were in US Army. That was a long time ago. Opa Sent from my iPad On Feb 16, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net wrote: Reece I won't be sending you any more emails. The only Silver-list email that I received is this one from you. I am not 80, but I am 71 and retired from the U.S. Army. I can see that you are satisfied with the Silver-list and am I the one referred to as bitching about being hung with a new rope? Floyd -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey [mailto:ozarko...@att.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
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I'll butt in here to say that Floyd you have not been bitching. You are sincerely trying to remedy a legitimate problem and I do believe that everybody would like to see that happen. Ron On 2/16/2015 4:18 PM, Floyd Petri wrote: Reece I won't be sending you any more emails. The only Silver-list email that I received is this one from you. I am not 80, but I am 71 and retired from the U.S. Army. I can see that you are satisfied with the Silver-list and am I the one referred to as bitching about being hung with a new rope? Floyd -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey [mailto:ozarko...@att.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
RE: CSUnidentified subject!
Well I spent the first 10 in the Air Force and the last 10 in the Army just the opposite. Floyd -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey [mailto:ozarko...@att.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! By no means did the hanging comment pertain to you, and bye the way, I retired from USAF in'73. First 10 were in US Army. That was a long time ago. Opa Sent from my iPad On Feb 16, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net wrote: Reece I won't be sending you any more emails. The only Silver-list email that I received is this one from you. I am not 80, but I am 71 and retired from the U.S. Army. I can see that you are satisfied with the Silver-list and am I the one referred to as bitching about being hung with a new rope? Floyd -Original Message- From: Reece Maxey [mailto:ozarko...@att.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! As I recently posted on this forum, I am 80 years old. I doubt there are many participants who can top that. I also said I was happy with the current format of the forum as many others appear to be. Technology has allowed/caused us to become poor communicators. We have gone from hand-written letters to the telephone, to the computer and email, the cell phone and social media such as Facebook where the content is more about Me than about You. The number of selfies we are privileged to see therein is endless. Mike, I don't know how long you have maintained the Silver-list or how much assistance you have. I have no idea what the associated cost is. But please accept my thanks. I would suggest that those with serious heartburn go elsewhere. My old 1st Sergeant in the army had a good saying, some people would bi...ch if you hung them with a new rope. (Hope not too far off topic) Opa Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
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Did someone send a junk mail ? On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: http://ugurmumcuanaokullari.com/fpbs.php?pfac=pfac
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h, now I am getting everything in duplicate? On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:36 AM, aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Did someone send a junk mail ? On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: http://ugurmumcuanaokullari.com/fpbs.php?pfac=pfac -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUnidentified subject!
Mike, I think we are being spammed! PT From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; 1...@pcpizza.com; deb.v...@yahoo.com; checkthesh...@yahoo.com; dianaanderson...@yahoo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! http://www.modellsportverein-ruelzheim.de/modules/mod_wdbanners/home.php?htm l45 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3910 - Release Date: 09/21/11 ---50144081-1930078619-1316613167=:69108--
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Deborah -- you been hacked MA From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; 1...@pcpizza.com; deb.v...@yahoo.com; checkthesh...@yahoo.com; dianaanderson...@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 6:07:30 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! http://suresnet.com/test.php?html4501
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Uh-oh -- looks like we got a spammer!!! MA From: truez2...@yahoo.com truez2...@yahoo.com To: shielashi...@hotmail.com; silver-list@eskimo.com; smartdr...@yahoogroups.com; staci_kurt...@gallup.com; stevenhalp...@yahoogroups.com; terryth...@hotmail.com; t...@utdallas.edu; vadaensmin...@yahoo.com; weda...@cfl.rr.com; windwa...@artofplacement.com Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 5:17:12 AM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com
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If anybody opens this, let me know if it crashes your computer. If not what is the subject ? On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:17 AM, truez2...@yahoo.com wrote: http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
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Drug selling site. Can it be dangerous to go to a .com website? Pat From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 9:42:28 AM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! If anybody opens this, let me know if it crashes your computer. If not what is the subject ? On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:17 AM, truez2...@yahoo.com wrote: http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Yes. You should have good security software. PT From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 10:23:10 AM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Drug selling site. Can it be dangerous to go to a .com website? Pat From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 9:42:28 AM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! If anybody opens this, let me know if it crashes your computer. If not what is the subject ? On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:17 AM, truez2...@yahoo.com wrote: http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
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Amazing what you find out when you go back deleting excess mail! Gotta have a little laugh sometimes. Leslie - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! music pitch pipe? Chuck SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES ROOM DARKER On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote: The shape of the tube is probably very important. How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm? Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com [link: mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] wrote: Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things. Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks. Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue. I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.' Cool! Steve G. --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Thank you Brooks, The Lung Flute : http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus Best, Colin - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: Silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. --
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Info at http://medicalacoustics.com/ Chuck Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote: Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things. Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks. Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue. I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.' Cool! Steve G. --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM Info at http://medicalacoustics.com/ Chuck Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote: Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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It may not be quite as effective but I always used a cupped hand to percuss the back and chest when my kids were congested. Of course it's very hard to do that to yourself. So yeah, neato idea. Annie If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren Steve G wrote: Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks. Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue. I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.' Cool! Steve G. --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com /cking...@nycap.rr.com/* wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM Info at http://medicalacoustics.com/ Chuck Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com /mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote: Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
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http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/video/video-playing-lung-flute Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com wrote: Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The shape of the tube is probably very important. How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm? Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks. Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue. I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.' Cool! Steve G. --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com* wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM Info at http://medicalacoustics.com/ Chuck Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.comhttp://mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote: Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would go trial and error. And as an experienced wind musician, the shape of the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in characteristics of the sound that are not relevant to it's medical effectiveness. The important thing is achieve 16 mhz, which is extremely slow. Middle C, in comparison, is set to a standard of 261.6 mhz. The Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low C 4 octaves below middle C on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C note the piano has. (16.35 mhz). I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of the 'reed.' Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the tape starts off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the mouthpiece. I'm sure this is important to it's ability to hit the proper note, but I believe that the most important thing is to hit the right vibrational frequency, without regard to the other sound characteristics. It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears are not capable of detecting such a low note. Steve G. --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 8:29 PM The shape of the tube is probably very important. How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm? Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things. Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks. Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue. I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.' Cool! Steve G. --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM Info at http://medicalacoustics.com/ Chuck Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote: Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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music pitch pipe? Chuck SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES ROOM DARKER On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote: The shape of the tube is probably very important. How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm? Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com [link: mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] wrote: Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things. Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks. Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue. I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.' Cool! Steve G. --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have zero music background so don't understand any of it, but in reading the comments on the first link a person posted this. Is it true? The solution is simple. Make a one note musical instrument with the same basic design. Then cover the hole with your finger to get the same vibrations as the lung flute. Anyone can design and make one and the FDA would not be able to do a thing about it. ---Original Message--- http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus
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The design is indeed simple. I'm sure other designs would work well too, but
not only is the correct pitch important, but it must have a way to convey this
pitch to the lungs. One wonders if an electrical vibrator pitched to the right
frequency would do the job. It would likely be more expensive to produce, but
could have the advantage of being tunable in case some people have lungs with
cilia that vibrate at a slightly different wavelength. Hard to believe that
every single human has lungs tuned to 16 mhz exactly, but maybe at that low
threshold accuracy is not as important.
--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:37 PM
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I have zero music background so don't understand any of it, but in reading the
comments on the first link a person posted this. Is it true?
The solution is simple. Make a one note musical instrument with the same
basic design. Then cover the hole with your finger to get the same vibrations
as the lung flute. Anyone can design and make one and the FDA would not be
able to do a thing about it.
---Original Message---
http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus
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How about a strobe light, or an equivalent mechanical viewing device? Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: I would go trial and error. And as an experienced wind musician, the shape of the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in characteristics of the sound that are not relevant to it's medical effectiveness. The important thing is achieve 16 mhz, which is extremely slow.Middle C, in comparison, is set to a standard of 261.6 mhz. The Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low C 4 octaves below middle C on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C note the piano has. (16.35 mhz). I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of the 'reed.' Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the tape starts off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the mouthpiece. I'm sure this is important to it's ability to hit the proper note, but I believe that the most important thing is to hit the right vibrational frequency, without regard to the other sound characteristics. It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears are not capable of detecting such a low note. Steve G. --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 8:29 PM The shape of the tube is probably very important. How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm? Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=chube...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks. Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue. I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.' Cool! Steve G. --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com*wrote: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM Info at http://medicalacoustics.com/ Chuck Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.comhttp://mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote: Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple humming technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a regular basis. For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and results---one may obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
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You can't hear that low a frequency, maybe a hetrodyned frequency though... Dan On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: music pitch pipe? Chuck SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES ROOM DARKER On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote: The shape of the tube is probably very important. How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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16 mhz would be beyond the range of hearing. Perhaps you mean 16 Hz or 16 KHZ? One is at the lowest audible and the other near the highest. Chuck 5 out of 4 people have a problem with fractions. On 1/9/2010 8:48:57 PM, Steve G (chube...@yahoo.com) wrote: I would go trial and error. And as an experienced wind musician, the shape of the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in characteristics of the sound that are not relevant to it's medical effectiveness. The important thing is achieve 16 mhz, which is extremely slow. Middle C, in comparison, is set to a standard of 261.6 mhz. The Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low C 4 octaves below middle C on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C note the piano has. (16.35 mhz). I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of the 'reed. ' Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the tape starts off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the mouthpiece. I'm sure this is important to it's ability to hit the proper note, but I believe that the most important thing is to hit the right vibrational frequency, without regard to the other sound characteristics. It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears are not capable of detecting such a low note. Steve G. --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subjec -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Selenium is a key element in the elimination and levels control of many metals that in too high amounts would be toxic and are too common to easily avoid ingesting...like copper. Selenium itself is quite toxic in very small amountsif you get too much of it. Croak. Ode At 08:00 PM 9/5/2009 +0100, you wrote: Sorry I missed all this. What is the point of selenium with CS? CS is to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a mineral/anti-oxidant? dee On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote: I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? 'According?' to a lot of people, others should be taking a whole heap of stuff, I guess there must be a reason to do so, unfortunately/fortunately, that reason escapes me for the moment? I haven't seen too much in any literature I've researched about the necessity for ingestion of anything else whilst taking EIS as produced in the home? or anywhere else for that matter. Is mention of it, but not enough factual reasoning for me to look further into it. If one has a good quality product it is lost on me why the taking of anything else need be considered, perhaps 50 or 100 years ago maybe, or to rectify something today which was instigated for some reason from the past, but certainly not this day and age using the means, methods and practices for producing EIS. Yeah, now I've probably invoked the wrath of the soothsayers, but!...I don't feel unwell, actually I feel bloody good, I don't look blue or whatever in the mirror, nothing on my person is discoloured in any way, my fingernails aren't splitting or falling out, my skin's not cracking, my only hair loss is from aging...etc etc etc, so why would I even contemplate ingesting anything else? well, in the vain hope it may change my attitude perhaps, nothing else I can think of as a reason. Or it could simply be I'm just too damn healthygand haven't a clue what I'm talking about, in which case just ignore/apply suitable finger pressure on delete button... N. Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:29:13 -0700 From: tita_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think). Melly --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Check out The Great Australian Pay Check http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
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N Think it is great that you are doing so well and cs is a wonderful product. Many of us have found cs because of health problems we are trying to solve. I had testing done with my doctor to determine if I was lacking the bacteria my gut and also for vitamin deficiencies. I needed selenium, C and A. With Brooks post on the LipEncVitC I have purchased it and feel a difference. Living in Florida almost everything and everybody is selenium deficient. Our area has fairly good soil and is hilly (almost impossible in Fl). These are the reasons I supplement. D From: one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSUnidentified subject! Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:36:49 +1030 I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? 'According?' to a lot of people, others should be taking a whole heap of stuff, I guess there must be a reason to do so, unfortunately/fortunately, that reason escapes me for the moment? I haven't seen too much in any literature I've researched about the necessity for ingestion of anything else whilst taking EIS as produced in the home? or anywhere else for that matter. Is mention of it, but not enough factual reasoning for me to look further into it. If one has a good quality product it is lost on me why the taking of anything else need be considered, perhaps 50 or 100 years ago maybe, or to rectify something today which was instigated for some reason from the past, but certainly not this day and age using the means, methods and practices for producing EIS. Yeah, now I've probably invoked the wrath of the soothsayers, but!...I don't feel unwell, actually I feel bloody good, I don't look blue or whatever in the mirror, nothing on my person is discoloured in any way, my fingernails aren't splitting or falling out, my skin's not cracking, my only hair loss is from aging...etc etc etc, so why would I even contemplate ingesting anything else? well, in the vain hope it may change my attitude perhaps, nothing else I can think of as a reason. Or it could simply be I'm just too damn healthygand haven't a clue what I'm talking about, in which case just ignore/apply suitable finger pressure on delete button... N. Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:29:13 -0700 From: tita_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think). Melly --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Check out The Great Australian Pay Check Take a peek at other people's pay and perks _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009
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OK Dianne, no worries, it seems some may have conditions or reasons that require this. [doing so well and cs is a wonderful product] -I won't be presumptuous and suggest EIS is responsible for me doing so well though, as I said earlier, I may just be 'cursed?' with good healthg. We'll see what the future brings I guess. N. From: dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSUnidentified subject! Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 08:07:23 -0400 N Think it is great that you are doing so well and cs is a wonderful product. Many of us have found cs because of health problems we are trying to solve. I had testing done with my doctor to determine if I was lacking the bacteria my gut and also for vitamin deficiencies. I needed selenium, C and A. With Brooks post on the LipEncVitC I have purchased it and feel a difference. Living in Florida almost everything and everybody is selenium deficient. Our area has fairly good soil and is hilly (almost impossible in Fl). These are the reasons I supplement. D From: one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSUnidentified subject! Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:36:49 +1030 I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? 'According?' to a lot of people, others should be taking a whole heap of stuff, I guess there must be a reason to do so, unfortunately/fortunately, that reason escapes me for the moment? I haven't seen too much in any literature I've researched about the necessity for ingestion of anything else whilst taking EIS as produced in the home? or anywhere else for that matter. Is mention of it, but not enough factual reasoning for me to look further into it. If one has a good quality product it is lost on me why the taking of anything else need be considered, perhaps 50 or 100 years ago maybe, or to rectify something today which was instigated for some reason from the past, but certainly not this day and age using the means, methods and practices for producing EIS. Yeah, now I've probably invoked the wrath of the soothsayers, but!...I don't feel unwell, actually I feel bloody good, I don't look blue or whatever in the mirror, nothing on my person is discoloured in any way, my fingernails aren't splitting or falling out, my skin's not cracking, my only hair loss is from aging...etc etc etc, so why would I even contemplate ingesting anything else? well, in the vain hope it may change my attitude perhaps, nothing else I can think of as a reason. Or it could simply be I'm just too damn healthygand haven't a clue what I'm talking about, in which case just ignore/apply suitable finger pressure on delete button... N. Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:29:13 -0700 From: tita_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think). Melly --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Check out The Great Australian Pay Check Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Find out more. _ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
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I did look at the WPF site, and could not locate anything like that in reference to colloidal silver. Most people seem to excrete the silver from the body pretty quickly ( in the ionic form we make at home ) . If one has a problem with metal excretion (rare, but possible) then extra supplements might be needed, or if one lives in an area with specific soil deficiencies, more might be needed. Where I live, there is no iodine in the soil, but there seems to be selenium- so we have to take iodine, like iodized salt. I found much info on excretion of silver at the silvermedicine website. Kathryn On Sep 4, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think). Melly --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly
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Sorry I missed all this. What is the point of selenium with CS? CS is to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a mineral/anti-oxidant? dee On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote: I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else?
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Some people fear argyria, which they believe can be averted by using selenium to help wth elimination of excess silver from the body. Not at all necessary if all you're using is EIS. There is no potential harmful effect of using EIS -- unless of course you're a single-celled organism... :) -- /\ /\ \ /Indi ^ 'v-v' On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:00:46PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Sorry I missed all this. What is the point of selenium with CS? CS is to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a mineral/anti-oxidant? dee On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote: I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Selenium along with vitamin E is part of the process to reverse argyria. Both are important supplements anyway, especially for us elders. Chuck When you are over the hill, you pick up speed... On 9/5/2009 3:00:46 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Sorry I missed all this. What is the point of selenium with CS? CS is to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a mineral/anti-oxidant? dee On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote: I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00
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But you don't need to take it if you don't *have* argyria? dee On 5 Sep 2009, at 20:18, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Selenium along with vitamin E is part of the process to reverse argyria. Both are important supplements anyway, especially for us elders. Chuck When you are over the hill, you pick up speed...
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Chuck, I don't know about you, but I'm not an elder. I'm only 70. Del - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 3:18 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Selenium along with vitamin E is part of the process to reverse argyria. Both are important supplements anyway, especially for us elders. Chuck When you are over the hill, you pick up speed... On 9/5/2009 3:00:46 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Sorry I missed all this. What is the point of selenium with CS? CS is to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a mineral/anti-oxidant? dee On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote: I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly
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[did you make them take selenium as well,] -No, and I don't either, and same with calcium. N. Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:08:35 -0700 From: tita_...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454
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Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Melly, I am now reading an interesting book The Calcium Lie. Not sure I agree with it all, but it is the other side re the need for calcium. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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100% organic whole food source selenium made by Innate Response is the seleniumj I would recommend - and daily. GTF chromium made by the same company is excellent for diabetics, too. i like Innate Response because they own the organic farms used for their supplements. No, I don't work for them. But they're one of the only and best organic whole food supplemental companies out there in the marketplace. Chromium piclionate is synthetic and sometimes toxic. I've been using CSW for over ten years in many various ways. Weston Price was a master. John. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:26 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Melly, I am now reading an interesting book The Calcium Lie. Not sure I agree with it all, but it is the other side re the need for calcium. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think). Melly --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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For any sort of CS to work there, you'll need your intestines to be completely empty. Ode At 06:07 PM 4/2/2009 -0700, you wrote: I would llike to know how much mesosilver one would take a day for an intestinal infection, and for how many days. are there certain foods or vitamins that you should not take silver with? Thanks emma -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 15 Aug 2008 at 12:21, Carrole Orme wrote about : Subject : CSUnidentified subject! Why do you think you aren't making strong CS??? Ode Hi Ode I think I am making CS but not very strong It is very clear absolutely no fragments I use to get some It use to taste a little more metal now nothing The beam is very faint and when I had checked after the 1st few months it was quite strong also about the blackining of the rod I said or meant some blackening it was not a lot but more then now I have never seen what anyone elses looks like I would say it was not heavy You would just see some on the rod I really don't know if it was one or both rods I never payed attention to that Thanks Carrole Hi Carrole, I could be that the first batch of water was not as pure as that used for the second batch. So the CS was made quicker and rougher than your second batch. OK, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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A 2 week old batch metering at 12 uS was sent to AA Spec testing. Came out at 11.9 PPM total @ 15% unmeterable particulate. [Strong TE] Weak TE, fudge down a couple of PPM. A Com-100 reading conductivity in a batch reads 18.3 uS and 8.4 PPM when switched to PPM in the NaCl scale 1.5 numerical difference when doubled. Conversion error by doubling uS is half that? Is that a 1.75 multiplier? [Not great at arithmetic ] Ode At 05:09 PM 8/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: Faith, It is very easy. See: http://www.ozelink.com/tds_meters/how_to_use.htm However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an estimate of the colloidal silver ppm. I have seen it recommended that you multiply the TDS reading by 1.2 (Colloidal Silver Master manufacturer) up to multiply by 2.0 (colloidalsilver.com) to get the colloidal silver ppm. I have been using 2.0 but may change closer to the 1.2 to be conservative. I am not sure how importance absolute accuracy is if you are primarily looking for consistency and to verify setup operation. Question for the group: What multiplier do you use and how accurate do you think your measurements are??? Just make sure the TDS meter probe is not contaminated when measuring, make sure there are no bubbles on the probe tips and do not try to measure moving water (keep TDS meter still in water). - Steve .. Hi Steve. How does one use a TDS meter? Thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 5:29 PM
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An Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometer will measure PPM. Got 10 to 250 grand, a big closet to put it in and a techie to run it? Not me. I'll hang with a good guess. Ode At 07:01 PM 8/15/2008 -0400, you wrote: However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an estimate of the colloidal silver ppm. Steve, what measures ppm? I know it's been mentioned on this site but I was not ready to really pay attention. thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 5:29 PM
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Carrole, I asked another question of the manufacturer : No problem answering your questions. You are correct about the time. The unit has a built in TDS type sensing circuit but no read out. If the machine runs for 3 hr and shuts off you will have CS. What ppm depends upon the initial setting and the purity of the water. If you have a TDS meter measure the water before and after the run...subtract the initial reading from the final and multiply by 1.2 which will give you approx ppm of silver. Paul On 8/15/2008 12:09:25 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote: Paul, Sorry to bother you again. This should be the last time. I am not interested in learning any proprietary information. The unit in question is the CS Master AC. Your product information says that the completion of a CS generation is not determined by time. My guess is that you are making some sort of measurement similar to a TDS test. Question, is it possible for the unit to terminate generation after 3 hours and CS not to have been made? Is there any chance you have contaminated DS? This could explain the low level of CS if it is contaniminated but not bad enough to trip the water quality monitor in your generator. It could also be that the unit isn't operating correctly. I think your observations of a faint beam with the laser pointer indicates low ppm CS. Is there anything you are doing during the process, such as cleaning the electrodes that could cause contanimation? You could also try running the same batch twice if the generator will let you. With a digital multimeter you could check your setup for voltage and current: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020 Or get a TDS meter: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170250480664ssPageNa me=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_ITrefitem=170239081511itemcount=1 2refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemusedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCatrefwidgetty pe=cross_promot_widget_trksid=p284.m183_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%2 52BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12 It might be worth the expense. - Steve From: Carrole Orme [mailto:captain_sun...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! Why do you think you aren't making strong CS??? Ode Hi Ode I think I am making CS but not very strong It is very clear absolutely no fragments I use to get some It use to taste a little more metal now nothing The beam is very faint and when I had checked after the 1st few months it was quite strong also about the blackining of the rod I said or meant some blackening it was not a lot but more then now I have never seen what anyone elses looks like I would say it was not heavy You would just see some on the rod I really don't know if it was one or both rods I never payed attention to that Thanks Carrole
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I meant DW not DS below. Is there any chance you have contaminated DS? This could explain the low level of CS if it is contaniminated but not bad enough to trip the water quality monitor in your generator. It could also be that the unit isn't operating correctly. I think your observations of a faint beam with the laser pointer indicates low ppm CS. Is there anything you are doing during the process, such as cleaning the electrodes that could cause contanimation? You could also try running the same batch twice if the generator will let you. With a digital multimeter you could check your setup for voltage and current: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020 Or get a TDS meter: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170250480664ssPageNa me=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_ITrefitem=170239081511itemcount=1 2refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemusedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCatrefwidgetty pe=cross_promot_widget_trksid=p284.m183_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%2 52BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170250480664ssPageN ame=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_ITrefitem=170239081511itemcount= 12refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemusedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCatrefwidgett ype=cross_promot_widget_trksid=p284.m183_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS% 252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12 It might be worth the expense. - Steve
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RE: CSUnidentified subject! - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: RE: CSUnidentified subject! I meant DW not DS below. -- Is there any chance you have contaminated DS? This could explain the low level of CS if it is contaniminated but not bad enough to trip the water quality monitor in your generator. It could also be that the unit isn't operating correctly. I think your observations of a faint beam with the laser pointer indicates low ppm CS. Is there anything you are doing during the process, such as cleaning the electrodes that could cause contanimation? You could also try running the same batch twice if the generator will let you. With a digital multimeter you could check your setup for voltage and current: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020 Or get a TDS meter: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170250480664ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_ITrefitem=170239081511itemcount=12refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemusedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCatrefwidgettype=cross_promot_widget_trksid=p284.m183_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12 It might be worth the expense. - Steve .. Hi Steve. How does one use a TDS meter? Thanks. Faith G.
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Faith, It is very easy. See: http://www.ozelink.com/tds_meters/how_to_use.htm However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an estimate of the colloidal silver ppm. I have seen it recommended that you multiply the TDS reading by 1.2 (Colloidal Silver Master manufacturer) up to multiply by 2.0 (colloidalsilver.com) to get the colloidal silver ppm. I have been using 2.0 but may change closer to the 1.2 to be conservative. I am not sure how importance absolute accuracy is if you are primarily looking for consistency and to verify setup operation. Question for the group: What multiplier do you use and how accurate do you think your measurements are??? Just make sure the TDS meter probe is not contaminated when measuring, make sure there are no bubbles on the probe tips and do not try to measure moving water (keep TDS meter still in water). - Steve .. Hi Steve. How does one use a TDS meter? Thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an estimate of the colloidal silver ppm. Steve, what measures ppm? I know it's been mentioned on this site but I was not ready to really pay attention. thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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They had better lawyers, but that doesn't make the patent any good. It's there for intimidation purposes to discourage competition. Should intimidation not work and an infringement fight crop up, they'll lose both the case and the patent and they know it. Spending time in the patent office files reveals that for every patent, there are many that are virtually identical and most contain the highest order of doublespeak to make it seem to cover the universe. [That's the new art of it all. ;-) ] Ode At 10:27 AM 11/24/2006 -0500, you wrote: That's odd, that patent is almost identical to one I filed 4 years earlier then that one for the production of CS using 10,000 volts AC. Mine was denied because they said it was old art, nothing new. Marshall Ronald ( Susan) wrote: Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of. http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6 Ron Ode Coyote wrote: www.silvermedicine.org At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 11/26/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 11/26/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/555 - Release Date: 11/27/2006
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That's odd, that patent is almost identical to one I filed 4 years earlier then that one for the production of CS using 10,000 volts AC. Mine was denied because they said it was old art, nothing new. Marshall Ronald ( Susan) wrote: Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of. http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6 Ron Ode Coyote wrote: www.silvermedicine.org At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ken, I, for one, certainly appreciate your knowledgeable comments, such as the one on ASAP solution and the patent claims. As you know, newbies come on this forum and into this discipline every day and are easily snowed by high-sounding techno-babble, as we try to educate ourselves on this subject. I appreciate and admire your totally unselfish quality, in that you give of your knowledge freely even though it helps someone to make his/her own generator, rather than buying one from you. Peter American Biotech is pretty much infamous for double talk and misleading ad copy. ASAP Solution is good silver water, but not better or significantly different than what you can make yourself. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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American Biotech is pretty much infamous for double talk and misleading ad copy. Our CS is patented? Not exactly. Their first patented process consisted of 6 off the shelf CS Pro generators in a vat with a stirrer. The design patent covered multiple electrodes with a stirrer...a design claim that could easily be challenged. Today, they use an HVAC or HVDC reversing polarity generator with a patented automatic feedback controlled screw feed for the electrodes. The patent also claims ownership of a circuit that every electronics engineer learned in school since the vacuum tube days. The HVAC/ HVDC CS process is not patented in any case and is no different than anyone elses. They no longer publish the patent numbers so you can look them up and see how irrelevant the patents are. ASAP Solution is good silver water, but not better or significantly different than what you can make yourself. ode At 06:05 PM 11/22/2006 -0500, you wrote: http://www.americanbiotechlabs.com/index.html However, their shopping cart is not operational. This site has it though http://www.hartamerica.com [ http://www.hartamerica.com/ASAP%20Silver%20Solution.htm ] Ron Ode Coyote wrote: www.silvermedicine.org At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.13/546 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.13/546 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006
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Interesting. But that has been done for at least 20 years by thousands of people before the patent was filed. I should patent the wheel. I don't believe anyone ever has. Silver Tetroxide has also been recently patented as has an age old substance, Silver Citrate. A patent is nothing more than a documented basis for a rights fight, but is by no means a guarantee that such a fight could possibly be won...nor does it mean the item actually works as claimed [or doesn't] ode At 06:31 PM 11/22/2006 -0500, you wrote: Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of. http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6 Ron Ode Coyote wrote: www.silvermedicine.org At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- If you think health is expensive, wait until you try disease Merlyn Anderberg --- http://www.HartAmerica.com Customer Service 1-866-712-2313 Local Atlanta, GA Phone: 770-998-0632 --- Note: Outgoing e-mail scanned by Symantec's Norton AntiVirus.) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.13/546 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.13/546 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006
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www.silvermedicine.org At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan _ Advertisement: House hunt online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dres%26cu%3DMSN_t=758874163_r=HM_EndText_Nov06_m=EXT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.10/541 - Release Date: 11/20/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.10/541 - Release Date: 11/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: 11/20/2006
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http://www.americanbiotechlabs.com/index.html However, their shopping cart is not operational. This site has it though http://www.hartamerica.com [ http://www.hartamerica.com/ASAP%20Silver%20Solution.htm ] Ron Ode Coyote wrote: www.silvermedicine.org At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of. http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6 Ron Ode Coyote wrote: www.silvermedicine.org At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- If you think health is expensive, wait until you try disease Merlyn Anderberg --- http://www.HartAmerica.com Customer Service 1-866-712-2313 Local Atlanta, GA Phone: 770-998-0632 --- Note: Outgoing e-mail scanned by Symantec's Norton AntiVirus.)
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Hi nathan, http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm I would include this one due to the important piece of information it has about silver. V Hi everyone, can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected in the cs community. i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround cs use, any suggestions would be appreciated thanks alot Nathan _ Advertisement: House hunt online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dres%26cu%3DMSN_t=758874163_r=HM_EndText_Nov06_m=EXT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
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From Ruth Strackbein From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:49:18 -0500 From Ruth Strackbein, Hi, I have followed your instructions and did get the machine to put my new mail first in a group. The rest of it is arranged by date only by month rather than by year. That is okay , now that I realize that is the lineup. It will be nice to have the new mail all at the beginning again. I learn something new just about every day! Thanks for your input. I had no idea all those things were available. RuthP.S. I should have said this machine. I always use the same one at the library, get to thinking of it as mine! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ruth, you can't imagine how happy we are that you have solved this problem. - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! From Ruth Strackbein, Hi, I have followed your instructions and did get the machine to put my new mail first in a group. The rest of it is arranged by date only by month rather than by year. That is okay , now that I realize that is the lineup. It will be nice to have the new mail all at the beginning again. I learn something new just about every day! Thanks for your input. I had no idea all those things were available. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sodium chlorite is NaClO2. I am not sure if ionic silver would combine with sodium chlorite or not, but if it did it would produce silver chlorite, a high explosive. I would personally not combine the two. Marshall nathan cross wrote: hello everyone, does anybody know what happens when you mix Sodium Chlorite and cs in your system together. i am thinking about using this product http://neveranoutbreak.com/store/bol_oxygen.php to raise my Ph levels or make my system more alkaline and less acidic but i am worried about the mention of Sodium Chlorite sounds to me that it might mix with cs to form some type of unwanted colloidal salt compound. or would it be alright to use the two together but taken at diferent times maybe, giving each a chance to work and not create a conflict of interests any advice appretiated kind thanks nathan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sodium chlorite is NaClO2. I am not sure if ionic silver would combine with sodium chlorite or not, but if it did it would produce silver chlorite, a high explosive. I would personally not combine the two. Marshall I use it all the time to do the salt test. Bleach is a good substitute for canning salt, and gives a similar white dispersion. Ammonia dissolves it just like the silver chloride dispersion from salt, but I did a quick search and couldn't find any equations. Even if it gave silver chlorite, the amount is so tiny there is no danger of any harm. For example, the amount of silver in 50 millilitres of 16uS cs is only 0.8 milligram. That is not enough to do anything. Also, it has to be dry before becoming sensitive. So you can just pour it down the drain where it will be diluted to insignificant levels. Mike M -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mike Monett wrote: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sodium chlorite is NaClO2. I am not sure if ionic silver would combine with sodium chlorite or not, but if it did it would produce silver chlorite, a high explosive. I would personally not combine the two. Marshall I use it all the time to do the salt test. I don't see how it could do the salt test? The salt test requires the production of an insoluble, or sparingly soluble compound of silver, such as silver chloride. Silver chlorite has a solubility of about 10 grams per liter, and should never form a precipitate at the concentrations of CS. Where do you even get sodium chlorite? Bleach is a good substitute for canning salt, and gives a similar white dispersion. Ammonia dissolves it just like the silver chloride dispersion from salt, but I did a quick search and couldn't find any equations. That is sodium hypochlorite, which I think ends up forming silver chloride and releasing oxygen. In that case it should behave like sodium chloride for doing a aslt test. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Mike Monett wrote: [...] Bleach is a good substitute for canning salt, and gives a similar white dispersion. Ammonia dissolves it just like the silver chloride dispersion from salt, but I did a quick search and couldn't find any equations. That is sodium hypochlorite, which I think ends up forming silver chloride and releasing oxygen. In that case it should behave like sodium chloride for doing a aslt test. Marshall OK, thanks. I got NaOCl and NaClO2 mixed up. For the alst test using NaOCl, I couldn't find any equations but it looks like it is probably 2Ag(+) + 2NaOCl -- 2Na(+) + O2 + 2AgCl So the oxygen is just stuck on like O3 and H2O2, which is why household bleach decomposes fairly rapidly. You can see graphs here or download software to do the calculation at different temperatures: http://www.powellfab.com/technical_information/tools/decompsoftware.asp Mike M -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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nathan cross wrote: hello my name is Nathan, i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6 years now i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also. i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works. but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i can find or maybe i am just not looking in the right places. Please let me know if you know of any. the medical profession seems to have its head under a rock when it comes to the use of cs always giving the standard reply that it can cause argyria. They don't have their head under a rock. They realize that if it gained widespread usage, it would put most of them out of business, thus all the lies and rhetoric. which as far as i can tell is only associated with silver salts like silver nitrate and silver chloride. Maybe i am miss informed but to me these things seem to be arguements that could be laid to rest once and for all with some simple testing. It escapes me how the issue of wether or not cs works or if it has any side effects has never really been outlined in any official report. It is only caused by ionic forms of silver, such as silver salts, or other silver compounds. Take a look at http://www.silver-lightning.com/theory.html for some good information. may be i am wrong in what i am writing but i am looking for some good answers about cs some facts some proof by someone that has 'credit' among the medical profession. No one that has credit among the medical profession is going to promote the benefits of colloidal silver, they know if they did they would be blackballed. Probably the best researcher in the group that has run many many test is Brooks Bradley. i have all the proof i need to use it for my self daily but it just seems such a waste that i cant tell my neighbours ' here are the facts about cs.' instead i have to say 'well here is what somebody said is true about cs it may or may not be true youll just have to try it and see.' What a cop out, in a world that deals in nanotechnology and rocket science, gene manipulation and world wide cyber comunication, you wouldnt think it would be too hard to get some straight answers about what cs does or doesn't do. You can get straight answers, you just have to ask the right people. The medical mafia is NOT the people to ask, they have a vested interest in making it go away. As here, you will get straight answers here. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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All this should keep you busy... http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf A lot more... http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7 stuff At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote: hello my name is Nathan, i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6 years now i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also. i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works. but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i can find or maybe i am just not looking in the right places. [snip] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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thanks for the links i was having trouble finding information about research that had been done From: Stuff st...@laguna.com.mx Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:11:40 -0500 All this should keep you busy... http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf A lot more... http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7 stuff At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote: hello my name is Nathan, i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6 years now i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also. i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works. but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i can find or maybe i am just not looking in the right places. [snip] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Stuff, Thank you for the good info you send to us seekers from time to time! CheckASAP silver sourceand you'll find a company Biogenics who went to Ghana W. Africa and passed their FDA and now can use the dirty allopathic 4 letter word, CURE to describe their CS. They have millions of in contracts in Africa, S. America, C. America and the Far East. They can claim that their CS cures Tuberculosis, Malaria, Hep A, B, C and countless other health problems. At the present time, they are having CS researched at BYU with excellent success. Let me know if I can be of more help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! All this should keep you busy... http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf A lot more... http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7 stuff At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote: hello my name is Nathan, i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6 years now i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also. i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works. but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i can find or maybe i am just not looking in the right places. [snip] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Bob. Will do. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.netReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSdistiller questions, was Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:36:38 -0800 (PST) Hi Ruth, Use the full 4 quarts but leave the filler hole open for about 5 minutes after steam is coming out of the hole before closing it. To avoid getting a steam burn turn off the still until little or no steam is coming out of the filler hole. Then cap and restart the process."Ole Bob" -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
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Hi! Just to set your mind at rest, I don't drink softened water. When soft water is distilled, the softener salt is removed. I think the problem is that I sent a partial post about distilling water. Somehow the computer I was using refused to put any more of my post on. I sent it anyway. Later I posted the full problem I was dealing with. Thanks for your concern, Optimal Life. From Ruth Strackbein From: "4optimallife" 4optimall...@rogers.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:41:02 -0500If you must drink softened water, it is better to use potassium rather than the sodium to soften the water. Costs about $1 a bag more. You may have to search a bit for it.Kallie- Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:10 AMSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener.Bad for the heart.I believe the salts they use are the problem.Anyway, this got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me histomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly.It turned out that he was using water from the softener he hadinstalled that year.Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other livingthings!ChuckI'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished.On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com)wrote:From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. Ididn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send.Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working waterdistiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened waterinstead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine usedto get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run throughit, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machineperiodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard materialdoesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don'tdo laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tellif my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the useof hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org Topost, add
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sol wrote: Ole Bob, I don't know if you remember you told me to do the same thing quite a while back. I tried it and it makes my DW come out with a much higher uS reading. My husband said that can't happen but it sure did happen. I did the experiment more than once. If it would be of any interest I can do it a couple times again. Any idea what could be going on? Sounds like it is working to me. Be aware that organic compounds tend to reduce the conductivity of water, so that would mean that there probably are some organic compounds that are getting blown off, and the purer water now has a higher conductivity. That of course is opposite of compounds that ionize when dissolved like salts and oxides. Water capacitors will sometimes have something like ethyl glycol added for this reason.. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ole Bob: How would one go about blowing off the first 5 min of distilling. On my machine you fill the tank and then turn on the On switch . That automatically starts the fan going and so starts the distilling process. Thanks. Ruth Actually, with continued use of the machine, I am not noticing the kind of build up on the upper rods that I did when I used hard water. Will try running some vinegar through again to see if the lower curved rod will clean up that way. Maybe that rod is supposed to look whitish. I don't remember from previous times what it looked like after cleaning. Would the contaminents that would be"blown off" be harmful in the making of cs. ? Will also try making only 3 quarts at a time. Thanks, Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.netReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSdistiller questions, was Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:16:35 -0800 (PST) If possible blow-off the first 5 minutes of boiling and then route the steam throught the condencing coils. that way is there are any organic compounds tha thave a boiling point near that of water they will boil off first and not go through your still. "Ole Bob"sickleave48...@aol.com wrote: I have a cheap 1 Gallon water distiller and find it works best if do not fill it up. I distill about 3 quarts at a time. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
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Hi , Bob! I'm glad to hear that my distiller will work fine to make cs. That's one step in getting ready to get a machine. Thanks, Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: CSdistiller questions, was Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:53:25 -0700So would it help to add filtration of some kind or a Reverse Osmosis unit before the water goes to the distiller? Am I right that Ruth's distiller is continuous flow?I have a weird thing here: we use a Waterpik R-7 faucet filter but distilling filtered tap water results in higher uS distilled water than if I use unfiltered hot water. This is the opposite of what was true the first months I used the distiller. And I can't even make a guess what is going on.solRobert Berger wrote:Hi Ruth, Hard water has mineral carbonates that cause the hard build-up in you still. Soft water basically has the same minerals but the compounds has been changed so that things do not scale. Either water when distilled will make good silver solutions. "Ole bob"--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comThe Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Ruth, Use the full 4 quarts but leave the filler hole open for about 5 minutes after steam is coming out of the hole before closing it. To avoid getting a steam burn turn off the still until little or no steam is coming out of the filler hole. Then cap and restart the process. Ole Bob
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I have a cheap 1 Gallon water distiller and find it works best if do not fill it up. I distill about 3 quarts at a time. Bob
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If possible blow-off the first 5 minutes of boiling and then route the steam throught the condencing coils. that way is there are any organic compounds tha thave a boiling point near that of water they will boil off first and not go through your still. Ole Bob sickleave48...@aol.com wrote: I have a cheap 1 Gallon water distiller and find it works best if do not fill it up. I distill about 3 quarts at a time. Bob
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Ole Bob, I don't know if you remember you told me to do the same thing quite a while back. I tried it and it makes my DW come out with a much higher uS reading. My husband said that can't happen but it sure did happen. I did the experiment more than once. If it would be of any interest I can do it a couple times again. Any idea what could be going on? Further--- at times water from a single pass through the distiller has come out reading .4 uS. Making CS with that DW made yellow CS. I ran another gallon of water through the distiller twice, it came out from the second distilling with a uS reading of .4 uS but it made perfectly clear CS. At times the uS has been higher after one run, and lower after the second distilling of the same water, but not always. Since I can't fix whatever it is, just do whatever it takes to get the DW pure enough for making clear CS. But curiosity as to what could be happening still bugs me. So far the only thing noted is that the need to double distill seems to happen when the river that the town water supply comes from is low. When the river is very high, one distilling works perfectly. There must be some contaminant in the river water that is more concentrated when the river is low. But I have no idea what it is. The town water company sends out reports of their tests of the tap water, and supposedly it exceeds all water standards, is very pure, etc. etc. I wonder if I should be believing that. sol Robert Berger wrote: If possible blow-off the first 5 minutes of boiling and then route the steam throught the condencing coils. that way is there are any organic compounds tha thave a boiling point near that of water they will boil off first and not go through your still. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener. Bad for the heart. I believe the salts they use are the problem. Anyway, this got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me his tomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly. It turned out that he was using water from the softener he had installed that year. Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other living things! Chuck I'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished. On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com) wrote: From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. I didn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send. Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working water distiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened water instead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine used to get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run through it, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machine periodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard material doesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don't do laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tell if my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the use of hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, add
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Hi Ruth, Hard water has mineral carbonates that cause the hard build-up in you still. Soft water basically has the same minerals but the compounds has been changed so that things do not scale. Either water when distilled will make good silver solutions. Ole bob
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If you must drink softened water, it is better to use potassium rather than the sodium to soften the water. Costs about $1 a bag more. You may have to search a bit for it. Kallie - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener. Bad for the heart. I believe the salts they use are the problem. Anyway, this got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me his tomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly. It turned out that he was using water from the softener he had installed that year. Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other living things! Chuck I'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished. On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com) wrote: From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. I didn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send. Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working water distiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened water instead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine used to get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run through it, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machine periodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard material doesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don't do laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tell if my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the use of hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, add
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So would it help to add filtration of some kind or a Reverse Osmosis unit before the water goes to the distiller? Am I right that Ruth's distiller is continuous flow? I have a weird thing here: we use a Waterpik R-7 faucet filter but distilling filtered tap water results in higher uS distilled water than if I use unfiltered hot water. This is the opposite of what was true the first months I used the distiller. And I can't even make a guess what is going on. sol Robert Berger wrote: Hi Ruth, Hard water has mineral carbonates that cause the hard build-up in you still. Soft water basically has the same minerals but the compounds has been changed so that things do not scale. Either water when distilled will make good silver solutions. Ole bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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From Ruth Strackbein, Thanks to you, too, Mike. I am in process of getting my steam distiller fixed. That is step one toward getting equipped to make cs. Ruth From: "M. G. Devour" mdev...@eskimo.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:11:04 -5Ruth Strackbein writes: To All, do any of you have information about a group called water oz? There is a person in my locality who sells cs water through this company. He claims that one should only use a teaspoon of this stuff a day. He implied that it would be dangerous to use it by the cupful like many of you do. Thanks for any information.That's consistent with our experience, Ruth. A couple of people we knowof developed mild cases of argyria by using Water Oz in quantities inexcess of that recommended by the manufacturer.It's a much higher concentration than the stuff we generally talk abouthere. It's been analysed and shown to be a silver compound, which isthe only thing that allows it to be of higher concentration to beginwith.Yes, it's unsafe to use Water Oz in too large quantities.Whether it's safe to use in smaller quantities is something I,personally, am not interested in finding out, particularly when lowconcentration, pure silver colloid/ionic preparations are easily andcheaply made at home with simple equipment and have so far failed toproduce similar problems.Be well,Mike D.[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian][mdev...@eskimo.com ][Speaking only for myself... ]--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comSilver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.htmlAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comOT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.htmlList maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ruth Strackbein writes: To All, do any of you have information about a group called water oz? There is a person in my locality who sells cs water through this company. He claims that one should only use a teaspoon of this stuff a day. He implied that it would be dangerous to use it by the cupful like many of you do. Thanks for any information. That's consistent with our experience, Ruth. A couple of people we know of developed mild cases of argyria by using Water Oz in quantities in excess of that recommended by the manufacturer. It's a much higher concentration than the stuff we generally talk about here. It's been analysed and shown to be a silver compound, which is the only thing that allows it to be of higher concentration to begin with. Yes, it's unsafe to use Water Oz in too large quantities. Whether it's safe to use in smaller quantities is something I, personally, am not interested in finding out, particularly when low concentration, pure silver colloid/ionic preparations are easily and cheaply made at home with simple equipment and have so far failed to produce similar problems. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Water oz is silver citrate, and implicated in a number of cases of argyria from what I understand. You can easily make you own by putting some citric acid into the water when you try to make CS, but I would not recommend it. Marshall ruth strackbein wrote: From Ruth Strackbein: To All, do any of you have information about a group called water oz? There is a person in my locality who sells cs water through this company. He claims that one should only use a teaspoon of this stuff a day. He implied that it would be dangerous to use it by the cupful like many of you do. Thanks for any information. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hi, Leann, I can't remember if this was a tooth that had a root canal. I think it was. I think that a root canal kills the root, but not sure about this either. Somehow, I never think of all the things I would likke to know when I'm at the doctor's or dentist's office. Thanks for your input. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: "Lea Ann" lsav...@cfl.rr.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:21:05 -0500 or rather... I'll be watching your thread with INTEREST :-) - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Hi Ruth, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area but that tender pocket next to the dead tooth would concern me. I find it hard to believe that a dead tooth is "ok" to remain in your mouth... seems to me like it would be a source for a "focal infection". Best of luck to you as you gather information - I will be watching your thread with intereste. Blessings, Lea Ann -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
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Hi Ruth, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area but that tender pocket next to the dead tooth would concern me. I find it hard to believe that a dead tooth is ok to remain in your mouth... seems to me like it would be a source for a focal infection. Best of luck to you as you gather information - I will be watching your thread with intereste. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! From Ruth Strackbein: I just had my bi-annual dental checkup. Dentist tells me I have a cracked filling on a tooth that holds my partial plate. He recommends fixing it with a silver crown. Anyone have any pros or cons about this procedure? This would remove the amalgam filling that is in there presently. Another tooth is a dead tooth that this dentist insists from x-rays, is okay. There is a pocket next to it which continues to be tender. Thought I would put this in since there is a thread about teeth going on at present. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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or rather... I'll be watching your thread with INTEREST :-) - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Hi Ruth, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area but that tender pocket next to the dead tooth would concern me. I find it hard to believe that a dead tooth is ok to remain in your mouth... seems to me like it would be a source for a focal infection. Best of luck to you as you gather information - I will be watching your thread with intereste. Blessings, Lea Ann
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I'm in the same boat.I have one thats going to have to come out this winter.The gum around it gets puffy sometmes.I use my LED device to keep it in check. - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Hi Ruth, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area but that tender pocket next to the dead tooth would concern me. I find it hard to believe that a dead tooth is ok to remain in your mouth... seems to me like it would be a source for a focal infection. Best of luck to you as you gather information - I will be watching your thread with intereste. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! From Ruth Strackbein: I just had my bi-annual dental checkup. Dentist tells me I have a cracked filling on a tooth that holds my partial plate. He recommends fixing it with a silver crown. Anyone have any pros or cons about this procedure? This would remove the amalgam filling that is in there presently. Another tooth is a dead tooth that this dentist insists from x-rays, is okay. There is a pocket next to it which continues to be tender. Thought I would put this in since there is a thread about teeth going on at present. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Warning Almost invariable congestive heart failure is due to bacteria from the guns or filings. Do the google search and you will verify that statement. A defective root canal became abscessed and it almost destroyed my heart. After antibiotics and the use of Dr Clark's zapper I improved, but the bacterial has taken up residence in my knees and every so often I have to zap them so I can walk. Did it just this morning. When glucosamine and condroition do not work for arthritis it is because the problem is bacteria. Ole Bob
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Evening Old Bob, At 04:09 PM 11/4/2005, you wrote: Almost invariable congestive heart failure is due to bacteria from the gums or filings. Very interesting indeed. Have you read the book called, The Calcium Bomb? It is mostly about nanobacteria and the fact they are coated with calcium. This is supposedly the smallest bacteria, causes heart and artery problems, ect. I was told a strep infection caused my heart valve problems. Could have been some bacteria also as you described. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 11/4/05 4:10:51 PM Central Standard Time, bober...@swbell.net writes: Almost invariable congestive heart failure is due to bacteria from the guns or filings. Wow. My father suffered from congestive heart failure. And due to a deathly fear of dentists, neglected his teeth for most of his adult life. That is an amazing bit of information. MA
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Terry Chamberlin wrote: Marshall said, Silver particles are converted to silver oxide and silver hydroxide in the lungs over time, which are then absorbed into the blood steam and then converted back to silver particles and excreted. This is preformed by the lungs producing small amounts of hydrogen peroxide which reacts with the silver particles. Can you cite any sources for this statement? I previously cited sources for the information that hydrogen peroxide is produced under two conditions in the lungs. For both hypooxygenization and hyperoxygenization of lung tissue the tissue will produce H2O2. The lungs have several methods of clearing foreign particles. They have the cillia, to do direct transport out, and they produce hydrogen peroxide to oxidize and dissolve foreign particles. These cites should be in the archives. I have read this kind of idea on more than one occasion. Is this established scientific fact or educated speculation? Although educated speculation, it is on quite firm theoretical grounds. First we have the information that under both low oxygen conditions, like if you have a significantly sized particle blocking the air to tissue, the lung tissue will produce H2O2. Second we can surmise that large particles will cause hypooxygenzation, and smaller particles are known to be an oxidizing catalyst that would trigger hyperoxygenization, so both mechanisms for producing H2O2 could be triggered depending on particle size. We know from our experiments that H2O2 produces silver hydroxide and silver oxide, both of which have a solulibility of about 13 ppm, and we know that soluble salts will be absorbed into the blood stream via the lungs. We know that silver particles do indeed get dissolved into the blood stream, so they must be reacting with something. After years of searching, dilute H2O2 is the only thing we have ever come up with that will do this and will not attack living tissue. So the only chemical I have been able to find that the lung tissue produces to dissolve foreign objects is H2O2, and the only thing we know of that will dissolve silver that is not highly corrosive is H2O2, and silver particles in the lungs DO get dissolved, makes it extremely likely that the process is done via H2O2. If anyone can come up with anything different I would like to hear about it. Marshall __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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If Codex passes will the cereal companies and other food companies be allowed to add them to their foods? TJ - Original Message - From: David S Osborne ide...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! What is LEF Membership Benefits Become a Member Renew a Membership Product Finder Product Index E-Advisor Products A to Z New Products Popular Formulas Daily Mail02 Feb 2005 FROM August, 5,000 food supplements are likely to disappear from UK shelves. This follows an EU directive demanding that only ingredients on a restricted EU 'approved list' be sold. Here, ANGELA EPSTEIN highlights the most popular vitamins and minerals which will be affected. BORON Product facing ban: Biocare Osteoplex. TRACE mineral needed for absorption of calcium. Deficiency has been linked to osteoporosis and arthritis. Boron is also believed to stimulate electrical activity in the brain, increasing mental alertness. Natural sources: Grapes, nuts, pears, beer. VITAMIN E Facing ban: Biocare Tocotrienol Plus. AN antioxidant which protects against damage by the free radicals associated with degenerative diseases. Vitamin E consists of a number of related compounds called tocopherols and tocotrienols. Naturally occurring versions of these compounds are to be banned. Natural sources:Wheat germ oil, sunflower seeds, hazelnuts, peanuts. CALCIUM Facing ban: Solgar Advanced Calcium Complex capsules. CALCIUM works with vitamin D and is needed to build bones and teeth, and for cell function. Helps regulate heartbeat. Those listed to be banned include many bio available forms, which means they are more easily absorbed by the body. Natural sources: Dairy products, broccoli, watercress, tofu, sardines, salmon. ORGANIC CHROMIUM Facing ban: Viridian GTF Chromium Complex capsules. VITAL for balancing blood sugar levels by boosting the effectiveness of insulin. Widely used by diabetics. Natural sources: Meat, cheese, brewer's yeast. POTASSIUM Facing ban: Nature's Plus Dyno Mins Potassium capsules. WORKS with sodium to regulate fluid balance, heart rhythm, nerve impulses and muscle contractions. When potassium levels rise, sodium levels dip, so potassium can help offset the effects of excessive sodium (such as fluid retention and high blood pressure). Natural sources: Fish, lentils, kidney beans, tomato juice. IRON Facing ban: Health Aid Iron Bisglycinate capsules. ESSENTIAL for the production of haemoglobin - the pigment in red blood cells that transports oxygen around the body. Many of the organic forms of iron that are more easily absorbed by the body will be banned. Natural sources: Liver, chicken, wholegrains, spinach. SILICA Facing ban: Bioforce Silicea. ALSO known as silicon, this works in conjunction with boron, calcium and other minerals to support bones, arteries, connective tissue, hair, skin and nails. Natural sources: Oats, alfalfa, onions, root vegetables. ORGANIC SELENIUM Facing ban: Pharma Nord Bio-Selenium Zinc tablets. CONTRIBUTES to healthy immune response and helps regulate the thyroid hormones. Selenium is also involved in healthy sperm production. Natural sources: Brazil nuts, wheat, barley, rice. VANADIUM Facing ban: Higher Nature True Food All Man capsules. TRACE mineral necessary for bone and tooth development. Too little may result in high cholesterol, poor sugar control, as well as cardiovascular disease. Natural sources: Corn, sunflower and olive oils, parsley, oats, rice. COPPER Facing ban: Solgar Chelated Copper Tablets. USED by every cell to process oxygen. Stimulates collagen and needed to build bones and cartilage. Vital to the nervous system. Natural sources: Offal, cocoa, lobster, crab, spinach, whole grains. MANGANESE Facing ban: Biocare Nutrisorb Manganese Ascorbate. NEEDED for healthy joints and to help build bones and connective tissue. Plays an essential role in allowing body to produce energy. Natural sources: Pulses, brown rice, nuts, avocados. PHOSPHOROUS Facing ban: Nature's Plus Ultra-Mins Amino Acid Chelated. VITAL for energy and for building bones and teeth. Facilitates absorption of many nutrients. Natural sources: Dairy products, meat and poultry. ZINC Facing ban: Allergy Research Group Zinc Picolinate tablets. CRITICAL for normal growth and reproduction. Needed for a healthy immune system, night vision and our ability to taste and smell. Natural sources: Red meat, sunflower seeds, oysters, peanuts. PRO-VITAMIN A Facing ban: Biocare Microcell Lycopene Plus capsules. PROTECTIVE against infections. The forms that will be banned include many of the natural carotenoids which are found in vegetables, and which, when eaten, make vitamin A in the body. Natural sources: Orange-fleshed and dark green vegetables. VITAMIN B1 Facing ban: Nutri Multi Liver Formula capsules. KNOWN as thiamine. Essential
