Re: The Talk2 List blog to check out

[shaun everiss]

actually most of this stuff is quite good in its present form.
There is stuff I don't even know about.
and some of it realy rocks.
At 10:30 a.m. 27/05/2007, you wrote:

>I've taken this one step further. Here's the actual link to the index page 
>featuring all the downloads from the blog. Derek, here's a shit load of stuff 
>to remaster. Have fun. 
>http://forbiddencryptsmusic.com/
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Re: The Talk2 List Happy birthday to us!

[shaun everiss]

well if god is microsoft and the new world os gets released and the old one 
gets dumped, then this date probably will not be correct.
Heck ms keeps pushing back dates as it is 
At 12:19 a.m. 5/06/2007, you wrote:

>2012 is an interesting date,  as loads of  races decided that was when the 
>worlds ending, i think the agreed on date, was like Dec. 30 or my friends 
>30thbirthday
>
>tj
>- Original Message - From: "derek Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "talk2" 
>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:22 AM
>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Happy birthday to us!
>
>
>>Why would Jesus come back, the world go poof, or whatever,  on 060606?
>>I mean, the bible says jesus kind of wants to show up and take people away 
>>and all that, but do you really think he has that kind of twisted humor, 
>>despite God creating those who do?
>>
>>- Original Message - From: "matthew cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "talk2" 
>>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:09 AM
>>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Happy birthday to us!
>>
>>
>>>Well, for me, my birthday is on a sunday next year, and it was on a thursday 
>>>last year and well yeah, i had exams on my bloody birthday. Yeah, thursdays 
>>>suck! And who actually believes that boolshit about 2012, i personally 
>>>don't. Aparently the very same thing that is suposed to happen on 2012 was 
>>>suposed to happen on the 6 of june 2006, but it never did did it.
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/31/2007, 7:03:18 PM EDT, Vanja wrote:

>You can't stop me! Well maybe you   can, but if you do very strange
>and bad things will happen in the world.

Yes, maybe so, as both you and Derek's birthdays are on Thursdays
this year. In fact, two little Thursdays in a row, in this case.

Mine is on a Thursday next year, thanks to 2008 being a leap year.
Andre
is lucky, and doesn't have to have a Thursday birthday until 2013.
Hmm, 30 on a Thursday? That might be a bad day for the bin, indeed!
Well... assuming we're still around after 2012, of course.

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Re: The Talk2 List Happy birthday to us!

[shaun everiss]

well if we keep the tbrn tradition up, the world will end on a thursday that 
started to lose on a wednesday ending on friday 13 the week before which would 
have been rather blaa.
After which the world ends except most don't notice or care that it has because 
those that were smart wouold have slept through it.
At 01:22 a.m. 5/06/2007, you wrote:

>Well, if your friend goes with the end of the world, he will do so on a nice 
>round number.
>Fun times.
>- Original Message - From: "Thomas (TJ) Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "talk2" 
>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:19 AM
>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Happy birthday to us!
>
>
>>2012 is an interesting date,  as loads of  races decided that was when the 
>>worlds ending, i think the agreed on date, was like Dec. 30 or my friends 
>>30thbirthday
>>
>>tj
>>- Original Message - From: "derek Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "talk2" 
>>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:22 AM
>>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Happy birthday to us!
>>
>>
>>>Why would Jesus come back, the world go poof, or whatever,  on 060606?
>>>I mean, the bible says jesus kind of wants to show up and take people away 
>>>and all that, but do you really think he has that kind of twisted humor, 
>>>despite God creating those who do?
>>>
>>>- Original Message - From: "matthew cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "talk2" 
>>>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:09 AM
>>>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Happy birthday to us!
>>>
>>>
Well, for me, my birthday is on a sunday next year, and it was on a 
thursday last year and well yeah, i had exams on my bloody birthday. Yeah, 
thursdays suck! And who actually believes that boolshit about 2012, i 
personally don't. Aparently the very same thing that is suposed to happen 
on 2012 was suposed to happen on the 6 of june 2006, but it never did did 
it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 5/31/2007, 7:03:18 PM EDT, Vanja wrote:
>
>>You can't stop me! Well maybe you   can, but if you do very strange
>>and bad things will happen in the world.
>
>Yes, maybe so, as both you and Derek's birthdays are on Thursdays
>this year. In fact, two little Thursdays in a row, in this case.
>
>Mine is on a Thursday next year, thanks to 2008 being a leap year.
>Andre
>is lucky, and doesn't have to have a Thursday birthday until 2013.
>Hmm, 30 on a Thursday? That might be a bad day for the bin, indeed!
>Well... assuming we're still around after 2012, of course.
>
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The Talk2 List usb sound cards

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
This message is for newzealanders on the list, but anyone can answer.
I am searching for an external soundcard.
I want a card that can run midi, asio support, audio support.
Oh and doesn't need to have a preamp for the mic.
I have speakers for an extra card.
I want to use it for radio broadcasting and multisynths in qws eventually.
I also want to use it for voice recording.
On dancingdots I found the delta usb audio file.
However I don't really want to pay 200 us for something if I can help it.
Today I tried to source a card locally but I can't find external 
cards anywhere, not in dse or harvy norman anyway.


I'd like sound font supports on this card to if I can help it.
I know there is more than one company making external cards.
I'd also like effects on the card like echo if I can get it.
Where can one get external cards that are reasonably accessable to the blind.
I would prefur getting them locally, but if not, My next choice would 
to source them from australia since the dollar value is simular to ours.

If I need to get it all from the us so be it.
However I don't want to buy mixers and things just to make it run.


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The Talk2 List winamp5.5

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
Winamp 5.5 is out.
New installers and such.
Optional toolbars as well as other things.
a bad thing is that when you play mod files and xm files well at 
least on my system the system will crash when you exit.

I resolved this by using the bass module plugin emulator.
But winamp has upgraded its engines and crashes if I try to use that plugin.
So I can't use it, wa!
Luckily though all the other plugins work fine.
and there is all these new things.
Unless you care to there are optional things like winamp toolbar and 
winamp remote.

I'm of 2 minds to install these extra things.
I don't care for the toolbar, and I don't know what remote is.ANd its 
all 6 extra mb to get, later.




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The Talk2 List back

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
I am back online stupid spam filters on isp.



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Re: The Talk2 List back

[shaun everiss]

h well unless I can find something other than isp mail which is free easy 
to register and doesn't include varification like google and yahoo I suspect I 
will not be moving.
in fact isp mail is ok just the spam filter used to be that it got to little 
now its to much.
and its only list mail for me everyone is fine.
Some say I should buy a domain and get a vps and then run that.
however I don't see the point, as long as I can get my mail.
out of 126 messages overnight about 5 were spam.
its 5 to many but my isp filters block  around  40 lagit messages per 5 spams.
I suppose that is standard.
I have not used gmail for ages so I suspect my gmail account has expired.
and not sure if it would work anyway.
At 03:08 a.m. 2/04/2009, you wrote:
>I would not use the spam filters on your ISP.
>I wouldn't even use ISP email at all.
>I wouldn't reformat so  many times like you do and use norton ghosts, I 
>wouldn't be from on a small island where they outlaw beastiality, because I 
>bet you have some old 80 men that like to have sex with small mice but can't 
>do that over there.
>
>
>On 3/31/2009 9:44 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
>>Hi all.
>>I am back online stupid spam filters on isp.
>>
>>
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Re: The Talk2 List back

[shaun everiss]

yeah venison.
issue I have to set it for each message.
I have just got 7 spams today, out of 200 messages.
I ccalculated that about 100 of my messages were coming to me but 40-50-90 
messages say in 200-300 were never reaching their destinations.
in short I can't be bothered trying to buggerise around with the system.
Used to be bad when I got loads on loads of spam but the blacklist spamhouse 
filters seem to keep it under control.
as long as I don't get more than 12 per day and not all at the same time, I 
don't mind, its just when 20 or more at each check are spam that I may have to 
choose to turn the filter on.
One good thing now is I can chat on agrip again, and now I won't miss a show 
announcement for tbrn which I was on a regular basis.
At 04:38 p.m. 2/04/2009, you wrote:
>Hey, he just has to set those filters CORRECTLY, and they work. And as far as 
>you and beastiality, oh wait, never mind. *places goats and sheep in a secure 
>pen with armed guards*
>
>
>
>--- On Wed, 4/1/09, farhan Khan  wrote:
>
>From: farhan Khan 
>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List back
>To: "talk2" 
>Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 10:08 AM
>
>I would not use the spam filters on your ISP.
>I wouldn't even use ISP email at all.
>I wouldn't reformat so  many times like you do and use norton ghosts, I 
>wouldn't be from on a small island where they outlaw beastiality, 
>because I bet you have some old 80 men that like to have sex with small 
>mice but can't do that over there.
>
>
>On 3/31/2009 9:44 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I am back online stupid spam filters on isp.
>>
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The Talk2 List tests

[shaun everiss]

Hi just checking as I have not got messages from here in a bit



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Re: The Talk2 List tests

[shaun everiss]

aah so no pdaudio, does that mean no pdaudio streams either?
or the other weirdness that exists in the audio section.
At 04:46 p.m. 13/04/2009, you wrote:
>Woot woot, big ups, and little UPSs that go beep beep in the night, or 
>something like that.
>
>PDAudio.net will be expiring in two weeks, and I'm not sure I want to bother 
>paying the additional $12 to keep it existing.
>It's a stupid pointless box anyway.
>
>Derek Lane wrote:
>>Same girl also told me that "woot woot," is back in style.
>>Crazy stuff, I know, but I wish I would have recorded that party for many 
>>reasons, some  serious ones.
>>- Original Message - From: "Vanja Sudar" 
>>To: "talk2" 
>>Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:07 PM
>>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List tests
>>
>>>Haha, woot woot reminds me of the old DC days. In fact if I remember 
>>>corectly my ikhab.net domain had that greeting at the beginning of the MOTD. 
>>>Now I let ikhab.net  expire as I haven't used it in years. Used to have  a 
>>>ventrilo server on there too, but now that's dead so if anyone wants  the 
>>>domain go for it. I have  no idea why would anyone want it, but if anyone 
>>>has money to spare, is bored and/or want to pretend thay['re internetking go 
>>>for it!
>>>Vanja
>>>http://www.sudar.co.uk
>>>http://mashupradio.net
>>>MSN/windows live messenger: suda...@hotmail.com
>>>AIM: vanja121
>>>Skype: vanja121
>>>- Original Message - From: "Derek Lane" 
>>>To: "talk2" 
>>>Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:19 AM
>>>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List tests
>>>
>>>
>>>>These messages are making it live again.
>>>>As a random note, someone yelled "woot woot!" at the party I was at 
>>>>yesterday, and it wasn't me.
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message - From: "matthew cooper" 
>>>>
>>>>To: "talk2" 
>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:20 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List tests
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yeah it kinda has been dead over here.
>>>>>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>>>>>To: "talk2" 
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:18 PM
>>>>>Subject: The Talk2 List tests
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi just checking as I have not got messages from here in a bit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [dolphinusers] tbrn

[shaun everiss]

naa.
I was talking to john on msn about why you guys couldn't or rather couldn't 
afford to host archives etc etc.
Not promising things but I am trying to help.
At 09:00 p.m. 13/04/2009, you wrote:
>Did anybody say we didn't have the space to store archives?  How embarrassing!
>God, now we all look like low-down losers or something.  Fucktard!
>
>
>From: shaun everiss 
>on Monday, April 13, 2009 7:22 AM
>
>>>To: all lists/ others.
>>>From: shaun everiss 
>>>Subject: tbrn
>>>
>>>Hi.
>>>
>>>I am emailing on behalf of a station I listen to called tbrn.net.
>>>They are in the process of moving their stuff.
>>>Issue is they have no place to store their archives of shows.
>>>We are probably talking 500gb 1tb pluss and its going to be ever expanding.
>>>This is a free radio station so they don't have the cash  to host stuff.
>>>They can't host stuff on their own connections of the various staff, because
>>>of data caps.
>>>They don't have storage for the archives.
>>>To tell you the truth I don't know what the ammount currently is but it
>>>grows every week each file in ogg betwene 80 and 200mb each and longer
>>>depending on things.
>>>Ofcause they can't afford any  space at the ammount they are dealing with.
>>>Its got to the point where there are no archives currently up except b7y
>>>direct link which means either I have to get the stuff from journals, etc
>>>which are not always updated or ask. At any rate they would like any
>>>suggestions.
>>>This message will probably be forewarded to several lists but since I have
>>>had conversations with you I'd give you a crack at it first.
>>>Ofcause depending on when you get this everyone else will have a copy of
>>>this as I will be doing a message after this to lists.
>>>They can't afford much if anything they are mostly studants all blind I
>>>think some have jobs but not sure.
>>>Any help will be appreciated
>>>shaun
>
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Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [dolphinusers] tbrn

[shaun everiss]

hmmm.
I got all my info from john as I was wandering what the complicated 
explaination about the issue with the archives not working with bluehost as not 
much came out.
Now even I am confused here is john telling me you guys don't have the storage 
here you do.
Then onj says that the pages for the archives will not come up and I took that 
to be never, and the site says will be back up soon.
I am confused what it is supposed to be.
And I am not scared of complicated explainations.
I should also note that there are blogs that are not updated etc so right now 
to get archives you need to know the djs msn/email and one blog and hope its 
updated.
Would be nice if I could at least find the archives I want in case stuff is not 
updated on sites, etc.
At 09:50 p.m. 13/04/2009, you wrote:
>Yeah, no more hacking off and throwing half-baked information without facts, 
>thanks.
>We're well covered, in some ways better than we've ever been, and more 
>redundantly too. When the site comes back online (and yes, there are several 
>valid reasons as to why it currently doesn't exist, which I won't discuss 
>here), this will be abundantly clear.
>Sure, the site is still broken, but guess what? TBRN is free for everyone... 
>except those who actually put the money and effort down to make the project 
>work, myself being one of those contributers.
>It is not a job requiring first priority, it's a fun thing to do for us, and 
>hopefully all who participate.
>
>I really enjoy it when folks completely masticate facts, run them through a 
>waste disposal unit, then regurgitate them as proper info, after gluing the 
>pieces together with feces.
>
> Onj wrote:
>>Did anybody say we didn't have the space to store archives?  How embarrassing!
>>God, now we all look like low-down losers or something.  Fucktard!
>>
>>From: shaun everiss 
>>on Monday, April 13, 2009 7:22 AM
>>
>>>>To: all lists/ others.
>>>>From: shaun everiss 
>>>>Subject: tbrn
>>>>
>>>>Hi.
>>>>
>>>>I am emailing on behalf of a station I listen to called tbrn.net.
>>>>They are in the process of moving their stuff.
>>>>Issue is they have no place to store their archives of shows.
>>>>We are probably talking 500gb 1tb pluss and its going to be ever expanding.
>>>>This is a free radio station so they don't have the cash  to host stuff.
>>>>They can't host stuff on their own connections of the various staff, because
>>>>of data caps.
>>>>They don't have storage for the archives.
>>>>To tell you the truth I don't know what the ammount currently is but it
>>>>grows every week each file in ogg betwene 80 and 200mb each and longer
>>>>depending on things.
>>>>Ofcause they can't afford any  space at the ammount they are dealing with.
>>>>Its got to the point where there are no archives currently up except b7y
>>>>direct link which means either I have to get the stuff from journals, etc
>>>>which are not always updated or ask. At any rate they would like any
>>>>suggestions.
>>>>This message will probably be forewarded to several lists but since I have
>>>>had conversations with you I'd give you a crack at it first.
>>>>Ofcause depending on when you get this everyone else will have a copy of
>>>>this as I will be doing a message after this to lists.
>>>>They can't afford much if anything they are mostly studants all blind I
>>>>think some have jobs but not sure.
>>>>Any help will be appreciated
>>>>shaun
>>
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The Talk2 List maxtore drives

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
I have just found a maxtore drie going cheap at harvy norman.
about 170 bucks for 500gb.
I know there are bad things with these drives but I don't know what.
are they prone to falier I was origionally going to go with  a westerndigital 
or a sigate, both because I have had a wd arc whos case has died and another 
because my friend has a sigate which is real quiet almost non existant.
I need something that will store data, its going to be a secondary backup, ie 
the drive will get data put on it and then after every 6 months or  so I will 
power it on to transfer stuff over.
I hope to replace the case on my primary western digital and run it into the 
ground.
I will be a heavy user of either drive though.  so they need to last a long 
time.
OI don't mind if the case power supply or case controler goe but I want 
something that will not easily break with switches, etc and will stand a 
reasonable ammount of abuse and ware.
Ok so I am not going to drop it and I will try not to take it away with me to 
much  if at all, howeverI don't want it to die for no reason just like if I 
pick it  off the desk and say forget to switch it off or something screwy like 
that not that will happen however.
I know the western digital drives will power down when not in use, so something 
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Re: The Talk2 List maxtore drives

[shaun everiss]

aah ok.
I have a western digital drive which I need to replace the case for  however 
sounds good.
At 09:49 p.m. 16/04/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Shawn:
>
>No, there is nothing wrong with Maxtor, they are great drives. I would trust 
>any of my high priority data with them. You'll be safe to go buy one and put 
>all your most important stuff on it.
>
>Once you get your data on your new maxtor drive, don't bother backing it up 
>anywhere else, because it will never die or develop bad sectors.
>
>shaun everiss wrote:
>>Hi all.
>>I have just found a maxtore drie going cheap at harvy norman.
>>about 170 bucks for 500gb.
>>I know there are bad things with these drives but I don't know what.
>>are they prone to falier I was origionally going to go with  a westerndigital 
>>or a sigate, both because I have had a wd arc whos case has died and another 
>>because my friend has a sigate which is real quiet almost non existant.
>>I need something that will store data, its going to be a secondary backup, ie 
>>the drive will get data put on it and then after every 6 months or  so I will 
>>power it on to transfer stuff over.
>>I hope to replace the case on my primary western digital and run it into the 
>>ground.
>>I will be a heavy user of either drive though.  so they need to last a long 
>>time.
>>OI don't mind if the case power supply or case controler goe but I want 
>>something that will not easily break with switches, etc and will stand a 
>>reasonable ammount of abuse and ware.
>>Ok so I am not going to drop it and I will try not to take it away with me to 
>>much  if at all, howeverI don't want it to die for no reason just like if I 
>>pick it  off the desk and say forget to switch it off or something screwy 
>>like that not that will happen however.
>>I know the western digital drives will power down when not in use, so 
>>something that will do that or is so quiet that I won't notice it running.
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Re: The Talk2 List Marrage day

[shaun everiss]

h I may make some of it can't damn sleep.
Grr.
At 12:21 a.m. 19/04/2009, you wrote:
>Well, today's the day then.  My marrage.  Yep, tied down, but it's a good 
>thing.
>In any case, with luck if all goes to plan and things don't break, you fine 
>people will be able to tune into the wedding as it happens live from the 
>comfort of your own homes by pointing your winamp to
>http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg.m3u
>at 11 AM EST, 4 PM UK and the rest you can work out I'm sure.
>The stream is most likely going to be spotty in places, using 3G to stream 
>will do that, but an uninterupted archive will be made available at a later 
>time.
>In any case, I suppose I should continue to get ready.  Thank you to all those 
>that want to listen and can make it.  Wish me luck.
>
>
>
>MR  Andre P. Louis
>
>
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Re: The Talk2 List Marrage day

[shaun everiss]

yeah same here.
Unfortunately I obviously just did not get time.
I woke at 4 am because well I just couldn't sleep and saw this message.
howeverAfter all the journals, podcasts, etc it was 5.
I tried to listen to the stream at that time because I knew that something was 
probably going to be active.
However it was not.
I played a game for 30 minutes wich resulted in no stream.
So I went back to bed.
I have just come back from a walk now and have missed it all again.
At 06:07 a.m. 19/04/2009, you wrote:
>Nice, congrats Mr. Louis
>
>On 4/18/2009 2:01 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>Well, folks, it's over. The illustrious Mr. Andre P. Louis done went and got 
>>hitched. For those who tuned in to the live broadcast, sorry about the 
>>breakage. Network connectivity wasn't ideal. Fortunately, I have an unbroken 
>>archive which is being uploaded as we speak, from, of all places, the wedding 
>>reception itself. Go figure!
>>
>>Stay tuned for a rebroadcast at 5:00 PM EDT (normal time of the Louis Bin) 
>>and an archive URL coming to a mailbox near you.
>>
>>
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Re: The Talk2 List Marrage day

[shaun everiss]

thanks.
something for me to do.
wrote:
>Hi all,
>Just letting everyone know who may not have seen the twitter, the
>wedding is now available uninterupted.
>
>http://tbrn.andrelouis.com/wedding.ogg
>
>Have fun, and there will be my perspective, videos and other fun
>things coming as soon as possible. Stay tuned for those.
>
>On 4/18/09, Mary Ann  wrote:
>> Congratulations Andre! I am so sad that I missed the live stream of the
>> wedding. This is one archive that I will not miss. As soon as it's uploaded,
>> I am going to listen and share, even though after the fact, with you in your
>> joyous occasion.
>>
>>
>> I am so happy for both of you.
>>
>> Mary Ann
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Patrick Perdue" 
>> To: "talk2" 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Marrage day
>>
>>
>>> Well, folks, it's over. The illustrious Mr. Andre P. Louis done went and
>>> got hitched. For those who tuned in to the live broadcast, sorry about the
>>>
>>> breakage. Network connectivity wasn't ideal. Fortunately, I have an
>>> unbroken archive which is being uploaded as we speak, from, of all places,
>>>
>>> the wedding reception itself. Go figure!
>>>
>>> Stay tuned for a rebroadcast at 5:00 PM EDT (normal time of the Louis Bin)
>>>
>>> and an archive URL coming to a mailbox near you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: The Talk2 List Marrage day

[shaun everiss]

I listened to the archive to.
I still have like 3 eps of blart, and several other recordings patrick kindly 
released.
At 07:37 a.m. 21/04/2009, you wrote:
>Listening to the wedding live would have proved difficult or very expensive 
>where i was, seeing as i was in spain, but i did listen to the archive when i 
>got home yesturday. Nice to see that it went well. Congratulations man.
>- Original Message - From: "Vanja Sudar" 
>To: "talk2" 
>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:21 PM
>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Marrage day
>
>
>>Congratulations man! Unfortunately i didn't listen to it live as I was out, 
>>but I listened to the archive yesterday morning. I'm very happy for you, so 
>>once again congrats to both of you!
>>Vanja
>>http://www.sudar.co.uk
>>http://twitter.com/internetking
>>MSN/windows live messenger: suda...@hotmail.com
>>AIM: vanja121
>>- Original Message - From: "Onj" 
>>To: "talk2" 
>>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 PM
>>Subject: The Talk2 List Marrage day
>>
>>
>>>Well, today's the day then.  My marrage.  Yep, tied down, but it's a good 
>>>thing.
>>>In any case, with luck if all goes to plan and things don't break, you fine 
>>>people will be able to tune into the wedding as it happens live from the 
>>>comfort of your own homes by pointing your winamp to
>>>http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg.m3u
>>>at 11 AM EST, 4 PM UK and the rest you can work out I'm sure.
>>>The stream is most likely going to be spotty in places, using 3G to stream 
>>>will do that, but an uninterupted archive will be made available at a later 
>>>time.
>>>In any case, I suppose I should continue to get ready.  Thank you to all 
>>>those that want to listen and can make it.  Wish me luck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>MR  Andre P. Louis
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> My Live Journal: http://LJ.AndreLouis.COM
>>> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=530631282
>>> Free music (for use in MOH systems, podcasts and radio): 
>>> http://onj1.AndreLouis.COM/Beds
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>>> The phonetones project: http://onj1.AndreLouis.COM/phonetones
>>>
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Re: The Talk2 List Are you as boring as Greensboro?

[shaun everiss]

hmmm patrick would be cool if you actually did a show from outside or even did 
a show with various backgrounds.
ie war zone construction site, rock concert, and other such things, space ship?
You have the sfx and you know you want to or not.
At 02:00 a.m. 2/05/2009, you wrote:
>From now until it rains, or I get bored with it, or lots of people tell me to 
>stop, I'm streaming from outside the house using a pair of mics to show you 
>all how boring it is around here. Find out for yourself if you are as boring 
>as the city of Greensboro by tuning into 
>http://listen.tbrn.net:/outside.ogg.m3u
>
>or not.
>
>Hey, I haven't done this in two years, and not much has  changed since then... 
>Not really, anyway.
>
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>KE4DYI
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Re: The Talk2 List Are you as boring as Greensboro?

[shaun everiss]

oh yeah I forgot that one.
At 11:52 a.m. 2/05/2009, you wrote:
>Actually, he did already, during the broadcastathon last summer
>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>To: "talk2" 
>Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:53 PM
>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Are you as boring as Greensboro?
>
>
>>hmmm patrick would be cool if you actually did a show from outside or even 
>>did a show with various backgrounds.
>>ie war zone construction site, rock concert, and other such things, space 
>>ship?
>>You have the sfx and you know you want to or not.
>>At 02:00 a.m. 2/05/2009, you wrote:
>> From now until it rains, or I get bored with it, or lots of people tell me 
>>>to stop, I'm streaming from outside the house using a pair of mics to show 
>>>you all how boring it is around here. Find out for yourself if you are as 
>>>boring as the city of Greensboro by tuning into 
>>>http://listen.tbrn.net:/outside.ogg.m3u
>>>
>>>or not.
>>>
>>>Hey, I haven't done this in two years, and not much has  changed since 
>>>then... Not really, anyway.
>>>
>>>-- Patrick Perdue (MCP, NCNA)
>>>KE4DYI
>>>Greensboro, NC
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The Talk2 List archives

[shaun everiss]

Hi guys just to say
the blart radio directory in the archives, will not allow me to download files, 
says there is an internal server error in s3finder.php.



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The Talk2 List blart radio archives

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
ok guys now it appears I don't get the error I got earlier like yesterday but 
every file returns a internal server 500 error.
the folder appears fine though.
please fix?



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The Talk2 List tbrn blart radio archives

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
ok guys the archive links are a bit screwey.
Its only because listen.tbrn.net is not hidden that I was able to fix it.
http://listen.tbrn.net/BlartRadio/blart.090516.ogg
is the direct link, not www.tbrn.net/archives/BlartRadio although this should 
itself work.
however the point is that this is the solution to the issue I was having.
so now steve won't have to doodle round to find what the heck is wrong with it.



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Re: The Talk2 List tbrn blart radio archives

[shaun everiss]

hmmm I noticed this.
I have got round the long delays with getright.
hmmm still stuff to work with I guess.
At 12:23 a.m. 21/05/2009, you wrote:
>Not to get too internal, but http://listen.tbrn.net/Whatever/Blah is only a 
>temporary storage location. Files are stored somewhere else long-term, and 
>there is a system in place to make the process seemless so the URL doesn't 
>change regardless of where it is actually stored. Obviously, it still has 
>issues.
>
>I do think the problem is in the way listen.tbrn.net is accessed, as it always 
>seems to hang on "looking up listen.tbrn.net", but it's not my system. I 
>didn't build it, I only provide a place to put things, so I can't say exactly 
>what the deal is. I'm sure it will get fixed at some point, though... Right? 
>Yeah...
>For example, you can go to 
>http://www.tbrn.net/archives/ThingsNStuff/tas.090516.ogg which is the link for 
>my latest show, and is not stored on the same server that hosts the latest 
>Blarts, or even the box that you initially hit for the link to the file. While 
>it takes forever and a day to load, which should not be the case under normal 
>circumstances, it does eventually come up. Steve's link, however, doesn't.
>
>shaun everiss wrote:
>>Hi.
>>ok guys the archive links are a bit screwey.
>>Its only because listen.tbrn.net is not hidden that I was able to fix it.
>>http://listen.tbrn.net/BlartRadio/blart.090516.ogg
>>is the direct link, not www.tbrn.net/archives/BlartRadio although this should 
>>itself work.
>>however the point is that this is the solution to the issue I was having.
>>so now steve won't have to doodle round to find what the heck is wrong with 
>>it.
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Re: The Talk2 List TBRN Presents heavy stuff FM

[shaun everiss]

hmmph is this thing archived?
I have now missed this event.
At 05:59 a.m. 12/07/2009, you wrote:
>In my slot, I will welcome you to heavy stuff FM, the result of Brandon H, 
>Patrick, and myself, being in my studio.  So listen for ACB things, random 
>stuff, and more.
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Re: The Talk2 List TBRN Presents heavy stuff FM

[shaun everiss]

hmmm I see the archive, but its showing me a 403 error when ever I try to get 
it.
At 03:45 p.m. 12/07/2009, you wrote:
>Yes, and ts uploaded.
>Enjoy.
>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>To: "talk2" 
>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:18 PM
>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List TBRN Presents heavy stuff FM
>
>
>>hmmph is this thing archived?
>>I have now missed this event.
>>At 05:59 a.m. 12/07/2009, you wrote:
>>>In my slot, I will welcome you to heavy stuff FM, the result of Brandon H, 
>>>Patrick, and myself, being in my studio.  So listen for ACB things, random 
>>>stuff, and more.
>>><http://www.tbrn.net>www.tbrn.net
>>
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The Talk2 List wdglfm heavy stuff error

[shaun everiss]

link
http://tbrn-archives.s3.amazonaws.com/derek/HeavyStuffFM07-11-2009.ogg
is showing the 403 error listen.tbrn.net is not but in order to download the 
file I have had to hack the link.
this seems to be the only troubled file.



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[shaun everiss]

Hi.
just got the file is the size supposed to be 59mb?



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[shaun everiss]

Hi.
The show is incomplete its 59mb upload.



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The Talk2 List heavy stuff fm

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
ok listen.tbrn.net is up again.
got heavystuff fm however its not playable in winamp, its like something is 
wrong with the file is the size supposed to be 148mb?
I will try to convert the file to wave then recompile the file as ogg again but 
it will not play currently.



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The Talk2 List heavystuff fm currupted

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
Just tried downloading the file again can't get it to import inport to winlame 
to decode something about invalid file format audacity did try but it couldn't 
get it going either what is up, the size on the server is 148mb.



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Re: The Talk2 List heavy stuff fm

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Well I am retrying again using the listen.tbrn.net way I got around the last 
one, although I have no idea why this did not work file size is the same.
At 02:10 a.m. 19/07/2009, you wrote:
>anyone else having that problem?  Do I need to reupload?
>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>To: "talk2" 
>Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:58 AM
>Subject: The Talk2 List heavy stuff fm
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>>Hi.
>>ok listen.tbrn.net is up again.
>>got heavystuff fm however its not playable in winamp, its like something is 
>>wrong with the file is the size supposed to be 148mb?
>>I will try to convert the file to wave then recompile the file as ogg again 
>>but it will not play currently.
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The Talk2 List heavy stuff fm

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
ok I just redownloaded the file using the direct download from listen.tbrn.net, 
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The Talk2 List jesusphone

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
Can someone please send me the jesusphone waltz thing, I have done msn to onj 
several times and an email but I either have not caught him or he is really 
snowed under.
I am trying to doodle with an idea with it, that is mixing it with the 
origional waltz.



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The Talk2 List arfy archives

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
just been doing msn with arfy his archive directory is still blank  like there 
is nothing in it, can someone please fix it. thanks loads in advance.



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The Talk2 List more shows crashing

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
something is seriously going on with the tbrn archive servers.
I just tried to get the john zone shows from the 27th to the 21 of july, this 
month, the 21 show would not even download.
and the 25th of july show was like the heavy stuff fm, corrupted and unplayable.
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The Talk2 List tbrn announcement list

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Hi.
I heard the announcement list is back up, what is the email address to get back 
on it.



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The Talk2 List mashups and remixes

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
I am bored.
and so I am combining tracks in audacity.
and making mixes.
some of which may need extra tweaking.
So far if there is an instromental, I will do it.
mostly its djtt and onj because its all remixes of things.
I am also doing ninjams and other things.
I will post the file on dropbox and send a link at the list.
Note that these are rough mixes, also, if things work out then who knows.
anyway just letting the list know.
if anyone wants me to do something special, just name a track.
Oh and everyone retains the copywrites to their tracks, I can't claim to 
anything except mashing stuff up.
or rather combining them.
Some of the tracks may need chopping, lowering, etc.
some don't combine or anything at all.
usually I would be listening to tbrn shows but since the system releases 403 
errors at me to get the latest files I am bored.
I will send people things when finnished.



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The Talk2 List ok guys remix time

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
ok guys.
after doodling round the folders I think I have doubled most of the tracks that 
I think should sound ok doubled up.
I did imports on audacity.
anyway this 156mb file will be hitting dropbox tomorrow, I'll leave it up there 
for as long as people want although I probably will have to have someone host 
it if I ever need to put a big file up there.
here are the tracks.
2pac and bruce hornsby - changes (the way it is) double up mix.ogg
This has the instrumental as well as actual music, sounds ok.
though saying that people need to be the judge with this.
also there were mixes I'd like to do but for pitch changes I couldn't, also 
some just didn't sound good.
Please note, that these are raw remixes.
some need to be trimmed, some need to be lowered some.

15 17 fun remix.ogg
This is part of the ninjam, if someone wants to trim the last 2 mins at the end 
or something they can.
a new dimention old vs new.ogg
not sure if this really matters or not.
I was going to do that to one fine doob, put steve's version with the normal, 
but I lost that file in a hard disk crash.
oh well.
another rainey rooftile.ogg
hmmm instrumentals and djtt tracks shoved together.
seems to work.
bec in a bin alternit bass mix.ogg
loads of base on this one saying that once its been done with it probably is 
not going to be that much of a good thing.
bec in a disco.ogg
again more versions of the same track, sounded ok.
bec waterflow mix.ogg
this seems to have a watery effect when mixed, note I don't put effects, I mix 
the music and it makes its own fx I have no control 
cher believe unbidden love funk.ogg
This has a semi funk effect on it, again it came that way.
Common things on 2 solos.ogg
this actually worked well, really sounds goodl.
conference underwater mix.ogg
This does actually sound like underwater.
random fx again.
Disfunctional part 4, the double cheeseburger.ogg
this has parts1 and 3 in it, sounds like a keyboard with a big amp in it.
Reminds me of the board I used in melbourne when living there.
that thing could pump bass.
east enders chill mix.ogg
this has the origional track mix as done by onj.
the instrumental done by said person and the djtt mix.
origionally it was like just the first 2 tracks.
Eminem - I just don't give a fuck (onj vs dj tt  megabass.ogg
this was the only track of this guy that actually did mix properly and sound 
good.
the second one was a bit louder but not much changed.
freaky takeoff.ogg
this is all those files in one big chunk.
Unfortunately it may not be nothing or it may be everything, sounds like a 
takeoff now.
Inconsequencial - big band.ogg
sounds ok, though you could argue it clashes a bit.
maybe if its edited some then it will work.
my main reason was because the ninjam version has not had drums.
Leaving full loadout.ogg
this may need actual volume adjustment but it came out just as the title said.
loquacious woodblock mix.ogg
again I have no actual control of fx.
this sounded like woodblocks or rather the drums did.
Mariah Carey - Loving you long time (TT vs Onj megablast.ogg
this has both instrumental and vocal tracks in it, its basey and sounds ok.
missing  you full version.ogg
this is everything bar the vocal bits.
as they didn't start at the same time as the others.



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[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
ok guys.
after doodling round the folders I think I have doubled most of the tracks that 
I think should sound ok doubled up.
I did imports on audacity.
anyway this 156mb file will be hitting dropbox tomorrow, I'll leave it up there 
for as long as people want although I probably will have to have someone host 
it if I ever need to put a big file up there.
here are the tracks.
2pac and bruce hornsby - changes (the way it is) double up mix.ogg
This has the instrumental as well as actual music, sounds ok.
though saying that people need to be the judge with this.
also there were mixes I'd like to do but for pitch changes I couldn't, also 
some just didn't sound good.
Please note, that these are raw remixes.
some need to be trimmed, some need to be lowered some.

15 17 fun remix.ogg
This is part of the ninjam, if someone wants to trim the last 2 mins at the end 
or something they can.
a new dimention old vs new.ogg
not sure if this really matters or not.
I was going to do that to one fine doob, put steve's version with the normal, 
but I lost that file in a hard disk crash.
oh well.
another rainey rooftile.ogg
hmmm instrumentals and djtt tracks shoved together.
seems to work.
bec in a bin alternit bass mix.ogg
loads of base on this one saying that once its been done with it probably is 
not going to be that much of a good thing.
bec in a disco.ogg
again more versions of the same track, sounded ok.
bec waterflow mix.ogg
this seems to have a watery effect when mixed, note I don't put effects, I mix 
the music and it makes its own fx I have no control 
cher believe unbidden love funk.ogg
This has a semi funk effect on it, again it came that way.
Common things on 2 solos.ogg
this actually worked well, really sounds goodl.
conference underwater mix.ogg
This does actually sound like underwater.
random fx again.
Disfunctional part 4, the double cheeseburger.ogg
this has parts1 and 3 in it, sounds like a keyboard with a big amp in it.
Reminds me of the board I used in melbourne when living there.
that thing could pump bass.
east enders chill mix.ogg
this has the origional track mix as done by onj.
the instrumental done by said person and the djtt mix.
origionally it was like just the first 2 tracks.
Eminem - I just don't give a fuck (onj vs dj tt  megabass.ogg
this was the only track of this guy that actually did mix properly and sound 
good.
the second one was a bit louder but not much changed.
freaky takeoff.ogg
this is all those files in one big chunk.
Unfortunately it may not be nothing or it may be everything, sounds like a 
takeoff now.
Inconsequencial - big band.ogg
sounds ok, though you could argue it clashes a bit.
maybe if its edited some then it will work.
my main reason was because the ninjam version has not had drums.
Leaving full loadout.ogg
this may need actual volume adjustment but it came out just as the title said.
loquacious woodblock mix.ogg
again I have no actual control of fx.
this sounded like woodblocks or rather the drums did.
Mariah Carey - Loving you long time (TT vs Onj megablast.ogg
this has both instrumental and vocal tracks in it, its basey and sounds ok.
missing  you full version.ogg
this is everything bar the vocal bits.
as they didn't start at the same time as the others
softly does it megabass.ogg
well its everything again a bit clippy but I think it will work.
Unconventional - 3 guitars.ogg
this is the actual track and the standard and ederol guitar parts.
I think thats everything.
21 tracks that I could see.
I promice it will be up tomorrow.
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The Talk2 List remix tracks

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
this first track is not part of the upload because I plum forgot about this 
last night.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1407689/freaky%20fwuff%20fever%20%20repulsive%20mix.ogg
mix freaky fwoof and the djtt remix together actually makes it all sound quite 
good.
Concider this a sample track, I promice the rest of the 21 tracks I have done 
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The Talk2 List cd mixes

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Hi.
all as promiced here is the mix link
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1407689/shaun%27s%20redos.zip
note that some of this may not do but oh well.



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Re: The Talk2 List remix tracks

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well I was bored to be brootally honest.
I have audacity, I just pushed stuff together because I really was bored.
Yes its rough but I really have no actual tutorials for anything or have 
plugins for everything although I have most things.
I'd get soundforge but I never figured out how to use it and I never was able 
to get a good registered coppy except v8 and I hardly could even use that.
even though I was told never was able to figure it out.
I got the idea by shoving files together in the actual folders, to be honest if 
I had access to bits of songs and parts and bobs I'd actually try but I have no 
experience at all.
At 03:31 p.m. 10/08/2009, you wrote:
>I'm curious: why are you remixing remixes on top of remixes? Haven't heard it 
>yet, but that seems kind of counter-productive. Did you at least compensate 
>for levels, I.E. not mix at unity? Peaks of 0DB+0db= at least +6db depending 
>on dynamics, and in the digital world, that's a bad old time, you know.
>shaun everiss wrote:
>>Hi.
>>this first track is not part of the upload because I plum forgot about this 
>>last night.
>>http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1407689/freaky%20fwuff%20fever%20%20repulsive%20mix.ogg
>>mix freaky fwoof and the djtt remix together actually makes it all sound 
>>quite good.
>>Concider this a sample track, I promice the rest of the 21 tracks I have done 
>>will be up once dropbox decides to finnish the upload.
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The Talk2 List shows

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
anyone got any idea about all this week's shows?
every file has 403 errors, thats when the servers work they take ages to find 
themselves and then ages to connect.
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Re: The Talk2 List Tonight on The John Zone - Babies, the Chinese, Pooping Playlists, Football, and More

[shaun everiss]

if I may go on the china thing, I think the i like chinese track from monti 
pithon will be appropriate.
thanks for letting us know about the onj.
At 05:58 p.m. 22/09/2009, you wrote:
> First and foremost I must open this sort of trailer by offering my 
> congratulations to Andre and Kirsten on the birth of their son, Jacob Peter 
> Louis, born yesterday at 6:58 AM BST with a weight of 10.6 LBs.  
>For those who haven't, I encourage you to offer up your well wishes when you 
>can.  With a baby boy that big, his parents will need all the well wishes they 
>can get, I'd imagine.
> Next, I feel the need to preface this promotion by letting everyone know that 
> The Beyond Radio Network has not fallen down on itself.  Due to the actions 
> of a few jerks from China who had nothing better to do over in the land of 
> Hu, archives and autimation have been taken down throughout the course of the 
> rest of September to prevent any additional costs on data and bandwidth and 
> such.  Therefore in honor of their sudden, but malevolent, interest in the 
> network, tonight's edition of The John Zone will pay tribute to them in the 
> most sardonic way possible.  (The availability of show archives will resume 
> on October 1.  
>In the meantime, consult each show broadcaster for any desired archive, as 
>most of us plan to post September broadcasts on personal or alternate servers 
>for the next week or two.)
> A recent series of Twitterings from two of the station's most beloved and 
> elderly Sacramentons posed the very interesting question of what tracks could 
> comprise the ultimate "music to poop by" playlist.  I have my own selections 
> of course, but tonight I encourage listeners young and old, black or white, 
> regular or not so regular to tune in with suggestions of your own.
> I know that few of the usual listeners are even remotely interested in the 
> sports world.  However the Dallas Cowboys suffered a loss at the first 
> regular season game held at the new billion dollar Cowboys Stadium this past 
> Sunday evening at the hands of the New York Giants.  Never missing an 
> opportunity to open myself up to on-air ridicule, this is another chance for 
> those of you in Yankee territory to give this Texan a hard time, as the game 
> was not decided until literally the last eight seconds of the fourth quarter. 
>  If not for the supply of chicken wings and roasted peanuts, I would have 
> cried.
> Finally The John Zone celebrates several notable September 22 birthdays: 
> including Emilie Autumn, 30; Mystikal, 39; Matt Sharp of Weezer, 40; Joan 
> Jett and Andrea Bocelli, 51; Toni Basil, 66; and Jeremiah Wright, 69; as well 
> as Bulgarian and Malian Independence Day.  
>Your requests, comments, and fizzy drinks are as always welcome.  So tune in 
>tonight to http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg.m3u beginning at 6PM EDT, 5PM 
>CDT, 3PM PDT, 11PM BST, and Wednesday at midnight CEST, 8AM CST, 10AM NZST, 
>and noon CKT, and let's kick off the change of seasons the way such autumnal 
>equinoxes were meant to be celebrated!
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The Talk2 List viruses

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
Ok, this came from onj, ok I know he has issue with spam, I only send this to 
the general list to see if something can be done about it.
Its not the spam itself but now every day for the last 3 days I have been 
recieving an attachment called ecard.zip which has a virus.
ofcause I get rid of it however it is continuing, I know there is a spam issue 
which is not going to go away, and the fact we recieve only this message is not 
cause for complaint but can something be done on all tbrn and andrelouis.com 
lists where no attachments are or even html content or something?
Then we would maybe still get the spam or maybe have any messages with 
attachments be removed.
this shouldn't complicate people wanting to send stuff to the list as I know 
quite well that most people on here or rather a vary few have web servers or 
whatever.
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The Talk2 List viruses again

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Hi.
now it appears I get a virus with the name install.zip.
this is not once a day, I suspect the server is infected or something.
it all comes from poor onj.



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Re: The Talk2 List viruses again

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hmmm well its sertainly going to talk2 I have got this several times a day, any 
way to block these?
if not I may just have to go away.
its not happening on other lists.
hmph.
At 06:10 p.m. 17/10/2009, you wrote:
>Read your headers.  These are coming from the outside, in.  That server never 
>runs anything, so it's unlikely to be effected, but it's easy enough to spoof 
>email even if you're not trying.  Apparently some people are just bored enough 
>to do so, and make it look like it's from me.  It's all about spf and other 
>crap.
>
>From: shaun everiss 
>on Friday, October 16, 2009 11:02 PM
>
>>Hi.
>>now it appears I get a virus with the name install.zip.
>>this is not once a day, I suspect the server is infected or something.
>>it all comes from poor onj.
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Re: The Talk2 List viruses again

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well for the time being I have put up my email protection its usually not 
necessary since my isp has norton and that usually works however its not 
detecting the viruses, so I have put my own up as well with avg9.
this means more space used on my drive and a few more resources used but at 
least nothing will sneak in here.
If it gets any worse I may have to bar all attaches which will be a hastle if 
someone wants to send me things over email.
Come to think of it that hardly happens now but still.
At 11:21 p.m. 17/10/2009, you wrote:
>It's not due to a lack of trying.  they come no matter what I do.  Perhaps I 
>will pay someone to program an entirely new approach to spam called 
>fly-swatting.  It'll be router-side, and therefore much more interesting. Who 
>knows, maybe it will get shit done.
>
>From: Patrick Perdue 
>on Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:04 AM
>
>>Just because it's coming from the outside isn't a good excuse not to do
>>something about it, like not allowing messages with html/attachments to
>>make it to the list, as there is really no need for either on this
>>particular forum. I thought that used to be the case?
>>Also, each of these messages is 42KB, and sending that out to a bunch of
>>users every time one of these comes in... yeah.
>>
>>I get enough of these fake spammy/virus things as it is with my broken
>>Spam Assassin, which is thwarting my efforts at every turn, because I'm
>>obviously an idiot, and don't know what I'm doing.
>>
>>Maybe I will build an isolated virtual machine just fur running viruses
>>to see what they do. No, actually, I'm not that bored.
>>
>>Onj wrote:
>>>Read your headers.  These are coming from the outside, in.  That server
>>>never runs anything, so it's unlikely to be effected, but it's easy
>>>enough to spoof email even if you're not trying.  Apparently some people
>>>are just bored enough to do so, and make it look like it's from me.
>>>It's all about spf and other crap.
>>>
>>>From: shaun everiss 
>>>on Friday, October 16, 2009 11:02 PM
>>>
>>>>Hi.
>>>>now it appears I get a virus with the name install.zip.
>>>>this is not once a day, I suspect the server is infected or something.
>>>>it all comes from poor onj.
>>>>
>>>>
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>Version: 9.0.686 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2443 - Release Date: 10/18/09 
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The Talk2 List msn changes

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
noticed today when sighning into msn that I had to enter a display name as 
security.
the display name box was ignored, this means that for  some in poticular tbrn 
will not have any issue with screen name changes.
I suspect not more than one client can sign in on an account.
The down side is that there is no way to change the name on the fly anymore.
though I don't need to use this I'd like a way to store this or have something 
fill that in for me as its always going to be the same unless I change it on 
next signout.
I must say this change has merrit, everything will be labeled which is good.
less spam and other things.
That they even allow my windows messenger 5.1 to connect is just cool.
If they actually decide to change that though unless I update I will probably 
go offline on messengers for good unless I can get miranda working and as I 
said this could be serverside and not client related.
so there is probably no reason to have anything on the display name box in 
preffs anymore.
later



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Re: The Talk2 List A Tuesday Apology

[shaun everiss]

no issue man.
on a side note I am trying to get with arfy to do a show I have the bandwidth 
so in theory I could parts of the stream teamtalk or whatever I have no flash 
hardware or anything so not sure how it would work but I do have time.
At 02:33 a.m. 25/11/2009, you wrote:
>Between shakey connections on Venison's part and a failing hard drive, 
>rehearsals, and family in town on my part, , the Tuesday afternoon/evening 
>lineup will be a bit out of comission today.  It's almost unheard of when The 
>John Zone takes two consecutive weeks off, but I assure you all it isn't by 
>choice.  I do hope that miraculously Venison's net connections will return and 
>a Venison/Derek-laced Tuesday lineup may once again ensue as it did last week. 
> But if that doesn't go through, then hey, you know it only means that the two 
>of us will be that much more enthusiastic when we return.  I apologize once 
>more for the short notice and hope you all have a safe and wonderful week.
>
>
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Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [MECHAT] Please sign the petition to stop the department for transport axing the London freedom pass!!!

[shaun everiss]

hmph
well technically in nz we get a discount on taxis and a discount on busses and 
trains however since busses were free most seem to take it as free still
Its a good idea to have your card updated though but again no one watches the 
thing.
At 10:14 a.m. 27/01/2010, you wrote:
>Just got this on an e-mail list i'm on, and was shocked. I, for one, have 
>signed this, and i erge you, if you're in the uk, to sign this as well. Thanks
>- Original Message - From: "Danielle McCullough" 
>
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:02 PM
>Subject: [MECHAT] Please sign the petition to stop the department for 
>transport axing the London freedom pass!!!
>
>
>Hello all,
>
>The department for transport, in their infinite wisdom, have decided that they 
>need to cut £2900 of boroughs' agreed funding, and a good way for them to 
>save money, as usual, is to take away from the disabled - by threatening to 
>axe the freedom pass.
>
>Please click on the link below to sign the Petition to intervene to secure the 
>Freedom Pass by protecting the previously agreed level of concessionary travel 
>funding for London, for 2010-11, from the proposals currently being consulted 
>on by the Department for Transport that would cut £29 million of agreed 
>funding for the boroughs, following the DfT's re-opening of a 3-year funding 
>deal in its third year.
>
>http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/29m4freedompass/
>
>You will be required to enter your name, email address and home address. After 
>doing this, you will be sent an email, in which there will be a link that it 
>will ask you to click on to confirm you would like your electronic signature 
>to be added.
>
>Thank you in advance for your support.
>
>Danielle
>xx
>
>
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Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

[shaun everiss]

hmph.
well I myself think simbian rocks.
win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business.
On that note wander why  no one has designed something around a linux distro, 
ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else.
could probably work to.
and you could run linux apps on your mobile.
At 10:35 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote:
>I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the word 
>out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the reader into 
>signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much luck. A telecomm 
>company that has hundreds of thousands of customers doesn't care about a 
>thousand blind people, no matter how angry they get. Just look at what 
>Microsoft is doing to Windows Mobile; yanking the rug out from under everyone 
>with no regards to keeping products like MobileSpeak functional. Why petition? 
>Microsoft obviously doesn't give a flip, and neither do these guys.
>
>As much as I like MobileSpeak and especially Mobile Geo, I'll be banking on 
>the Android platform in a few years when both WM and Simbian are dead.
>
>Steve
>
>
>On 3/1/2010 3:39 PM, Onj wrote:
>>you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though.  And though I agree 
>>with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead?  I'm 
>>asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something 
>>useful, will have no GPS undder his platform.  You have Mobile Geo and you 
>>are lucky for that, however it shall be a cold day in hell I switch to 
>>Windows smart.  Especially with all the incredibly um, interesting? changes 
>>they are trying to implement at this time.
>>So, ignoring that message, which to be fair the guy did have a point, he 
>>wasn't saying it to individuals but to large organisations, please sign it. I 
>>can't ask more than that really.
>>
>>From: Stephen Clower 
>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 7:20 PM
>>
>>>So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get
>>>them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the
>>>author's attitude, despite his good intentions.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote:
I haven't seen a message on this list for months.  Why not let the
content of this message speak for itself?

From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
on Monday, March 01, 2010 6:02 PM

>A quick note to all of you who have, and those who as of yet have not
>signed
>the WFA user protest site.
>
>Before I start my message the link right here and now is
>www.talknav.com/protest
>
>Firstly, a note to all of you who have signed, thank you, but I have
>to at
>this stage say that it is way too few who have made this effort. We are
>nearing 700, yet for Vodafone to take this seriously we need thousands.
>
>To date we've not even got close to even the number of users of the
>application signing, let alone additional support.
>
>Can I especially ask those of you who either work with or for the
>organizations that supposedly represent us as blind folk, yes you
>lot, those
>of you at the RNIB, CNIB, AFB, NFB, etc, etc, you lot really have
>made me
>rather upset and irritated.
>
>To date I've posted two messages via each of your web-sites informing
>you
>all of our protest, has any one of you got back to me to ask for more
>detail, have you mass mailed your members, have you lobbied in our
>favour,
>have you, no sir. Is this an outrage, is this a complete lack of
>competence
>when it comes to supporting those who you claim to represent? This
>individual thinks so. So if you represent, or have a contact at your
>local
>blind organization please forward this message, we, or certainly I,
>am very,
>very disappointed in you all.
>
>As for those private individuals who have not yet signed, even if you
>do not
>own Access or a Symbian phone, your name should be on this list, the
>list
>says something about who we are and what we stand for as blind folks, it
>says that we will not lay down and be ignored whilst our tools to
>freedom
>and mobility are stolen from us. It says we have a voice and we are
>prepared
>to use it when necessary.
>
>This protest is about more than just Wayfinder Access, it is a
>symbol, now
>please, I urge you all, we need this link spreading, we need it sharing,
>Face Book pages, Twitter, those of you who produce pod casts, mailing
>lists
>etc, etc, if you believe in your freedom to mobility and your rights to
>accessible products then make your mark.
>
>More than this, those you know need to say that they too are in
>support of
>our cause, so get your address book and forward this link,
>personalize it
>with a few lines of message, get the word out there.
>
>The protest site has a league table on it at the bottom of the publ

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

[shaun everiss]

hmph.
thought symbian was opensource.
oh well what  exactly will we all use after all that goes away.
not that I care much there will probably be for the forseeable future old 
phones mine still works.
I suppose we will have to use all the broken windows and simlinux systems then.
android looks promising though the google nexus was a joke really was.
Its a pitty we can't just have a version of win7 or xp on a mobile.
Its a shame that the only phone that is mac is an iphone.
Would like to have hmm a mac powerphone imagine what cool things I would be 
able to do with that.
At 10:54 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote:
>Given what's out there right now, it can't be done. Platforms are very, very 
>different, and a lot of what products like Orca or NVDA need to operate aren't 
>present on handsets. Android is based on Linux, by the way. A screen reader is 
>in the works, and while it's not very useful now, it may be great given 
>another year or two of development. Nokia is abandoning Simbian as we all know 
>it in loo of a Linux/Simbian hybrid which is just as broken as Windows Phone 7 
>will be
>
>Steve
>
>
>On 3/1/2010 4:51 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
>>hmph.
>>well I myself think simbian rocks.
>>win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business.
>>On that note wander why  no one has designed something around a linux distro, 
>>ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else.
>>could probably work to.
>>and you could run linux apps on your mobile.
>>At 10:35 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote:
>>   
>>>I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the word 
>>>out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the reader into 
>>>signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much luck. A 
>>>telecomm company that has hundreds of thousands of customers doesn't care 
>>>about a thousand blind people, no matter how angry they get. Just look at 
>>>what Microsoft is doing to Windows Mobile; yanking the rug out from under 
>>>everyone with no regards to keeping products like MobileSpeak functional. 
>>>Why petition? Microsoft obviously doesn't give a flip, and neither do these 
>>>guys.
>>>
>>>As much as I like MobileSpeak and especially Mobile Geo, I'll be banking on 
>>>the Android platform in a few years when both WM and Simbian are dead.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>On 3/1/2010 3:39 PM, Onj wrote:
>>> 
>>>>you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though.  And though I agree 
>>>>with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead?  I'm 
>>>>asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something 
>>>>useful, will have no GPS undder his platform.  You have Mobile Geo and you 
>>>>are lucky for that, however it shall be a cold day in hell I switch to 
>>>>Windows smart.  Especially with all the incredibly um, interesting? changes 
>>>>they are trying to implement at this time.
>>>>So, ignoring that message, which to be fair the guy did have a point, he 
>>>>wasn't saying it to individuals but to large organisations, please sign it. 
>>>>I can't ask more than that really.
>>>>
>>>>From: Stephen Clower
>>>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 7:20 PM
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>>So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get
>>>>>them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the
>>>>>author's attitude, despite his good intentions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>I haven't seen a message on this list for months.  Why not let the
>>>>>>content of this message speak for itself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>>>>>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 6:02 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>A quick note to all of you who have, and those who as of yet have not
>>>>>>>signed
>>>>>>>the WFA user protest site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Before I start my message the link right here and now is
>>>>>>>www.talknav.com/protest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Firstly, a note to all of you who have signed, thank you, but I have
>>>>>>>to at
>>>>>>>this stage

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

[shaun everiss]

I must reluctantly aggree with simbian on that one.
yeah its simple and works but it does look like a dos program from 1996.
At any rate this wayfinder thing is supposed to go either nokia or vodaphone 
internal so we have gps subsystems that come with the phone.
now as long as they use the same thing and the same data I am all for 
intigration especially if it means les modules to buy.
Simbian hasn't really had any major ui upgrade so again I aggree it needs it.
hmph klango is a nice platform pitty its all net based imagine if that was on 
the phone.
actually thinking on that we would probably use our credit on loads of 
unnecessary things.
at least I would.

At 11:24 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote:
>and, symbian is changing the UI to a better GUI which is visually appealing 
>and doesnt look like a dos app from 1996. Tthe problem with this new GUI is 
>its very lacking in the accessibility department. and will probably take 
>screen reader venders several years to redesign things to work with the new UI.
>
>The s60 UI sucks and symbian knows it cant compete if they dont make it more 
>visually apealing and more user friendly. They realize for example that it 
>shouldnt take 12 taps/keystrokes just to create the email account on the phone.
>
>
>On 3/1/2010 2:13 PM, Stephen Clower wrote:
>>It's open source, but to release it that way, Nokia had to remove a lot of 
>>closed-source components that are critical to the platform itself. If you 
>>compiled and installed what's on the internet right now, you'd end up with a 
>>brick.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>On 3/1/2010 5:11 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
>>>hmph.
>>>thought symbian was opensource.
>>>oh well what  exactly will we all use after all that goes away.
>>>not that I care much there will probably be for the forseeable future old 
>>>phones mine still works.
>>>I suppose we will have to use all the broken windows and simlinux systems 
>>>then.
>>>android looks promising though the google nexus was a joke really was.
>>>Its a pitty we can't just have a version of win7 or xp on a mobile.
>>>Its a shame that the only phone that is mac is an iphone.
>>>Would like to have hmm a mac powerphone imagine what cool things I would be 
>>>able to do with that.
>>>At 10:54 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote:
>>>>Given what's out there right now, it can't be done. Platforms are very, 
>>>>very different, and a lot of what products like Orca or NVDA need to 
>>>>operate aren't present on handsets. Android is based on Linux, by the way. 
>>>>A screen reader is in the works, and while it's not very useful now, it may 
>>>>be great given another year or two of development. Nokia is abandoning 
>>>>Simbian as we all know it in loo of a Linux/Simbian hybrid which is just as 
>>>>broken as Windows Phone 7 will be
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 3/1/2010 4:51 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
>>>>>hmph.
>>>>>well I myself think simbian rocks.
>>>>>win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business.
>>>>>On that note wander why  no one has designed something around a linux 
>>>>>distro, ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else.
>>>>>could probably work to.
>>>>>and you could run linux apps on your mobile.
>>>>>At 10:35 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the 
>>>>>>word out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the 
>>>>>>reader into signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much 
>>>>>>luck. A telecomm company that has hundreds of thousands of customers 
>>>>>>doesn't care about a thousand blind people, no matter how angry they get. 
>>>>>>Just look at what Microsoft is doing to Windows Mobile; yanking the rug 
>>>>>>out from under everyone with no regards to keeping products like 
>>>>>>MobileSpeak functional. Why petition? Microsoft obviously doesn't give a 
>>>>>>flip, and neither do these guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As much as I like MobileSpeak and especially Mobile Geo, I'll be banking 
>>>>>>on the Android platform in a few years when both WM and Simbian are dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 3/1/2010 3:39 PM, Onj wrote:
>>>>>>

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

[shaun everiss]

thats a point actually
my brother uses google maps all the time.
At 05:33 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote:
>Has anyone approached loadstone about adding the googlemaps/earth api's? 
>street view and directions are availible in many countrys. you add the 
>loadstone user POIS to the google maps api and poi's and you actually have 
>something going.  google maps is the best source for free maps. if people dont 
>want to pay mobile geo prices then implement google maps in to something like 
>loadstone or build a completely open source cross platform app in either 
>python or java and talk to the appropriate screen reader API's.
>
>
>On 3/2/2010 8:27 AM, Brandon Hicks wrote:
>>Not to mention most of those people aren't in countries Vodaphone serve. So 
>>there's another lack of insentive. Now if you had 700 blinks who were going 
>>to break contracts with them over it they might think again but as it is 
>>that's not going to happen. Vodaphone have nothing to gain and everything to 
>>lose by doing something about this, but the blinks feel entitled. Instead of 
>>putting the tallent to work for Loadstone they're just bitching. Typical.
>>
>>Brandon
>>
>>Doug Langley wrote:
>>>Also, the WFA concept of free life time upgrades also put a nail in its 
>>>coffin.  Wheres the insentive for Vodaphone to develop a program which wont 
>>>bring them any sort of positive cash flow? This is a gps program and it 
>>>needs updated data on a regular basis and wheres the insentive for vodaphone 
>>>to do *anything* that wont bring them at least the ability to break even? 
>>>First and formost its about money and 777 blind people that signed a 
>>>petition who arent obligated (by the license agreement) to ever give them 
>>>another penny arent going to be insentive enough to do anything about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>On 3/2/2010 7:03 AM, Doug Langley wrote:
I'm glad to see someone else with a brain. No one ever takes these internet 
petitions seriously. I signed it but only because it can only help more 
than hurt. That being said, if people spent as much time working on a new 
solution instead of trying to save an old dieing one we would probably all 
be better off.  This is vodaphone. they hear from more people in a single 
hour than they will in this hole petition.  And all this petition is doing 
is asking for a reason why. so we can spend 3 months getting 778 signatures 
so they can say, "because it didnt make business sense." Thank you for 
contacting vodaphone we hope we can service you in the future.

On 3/2/2010 6:57 AM, Amanda Rush wrote:
>K this is a record. I was turned off by about the second line of this
>guy's message. I totally get being angry about accessibility or the lack
>thereof, but begging for signatures is like begging for charity. Neither
>one works very well, and getting angry with the people you're trying to
>get signatures/charity from isn't a good thing either. Also, IMO, (and
>it's probably only my opinion, and we know what those are like, but this
>is the crux of the entire accessibility fight), companies like this one
>and every other one ignore these sorts of petitions because, even if every
>single blind user were to call their bluff, we're not a big enough of
>their market to matter as far as sales or whatever. And in the case of the
>FS petition, we can all bitch and whine till we're out of breath, but the
>fact is that 90% of their clientel is government contracts. So they can
>pretty much do whatever, and the other AT companies will eventually go
>along or go out of business, and so there's no real insentive for FS to do
>anything positive. Note: I'm not a huge FS fan. At all. So I hope no one
>takes this as rooting for them.
>
>And wow, DJ Patty, haven't heard from you in *ages. I was wondering what
>had happened to you. Good to see you're still around.
>
>Amanda
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj
>Paddy
>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35
>To: talk2
>Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest
>
>Guys just displaying understandable anger over loss of access.
>
>Barry
>
>-Original Message-
>From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
>Brandon Hicks
>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:45 PM
>To: talk2
>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest
>
>Agreed. This message speaks of childish tantrums. Even the Freedom
>Scientific petition didn't get much over a thousand signatures, if even
>that. This one's not going to get much more. I thought about it until I
>got to about the third line of the message.
>
>Brandon
>
>Stephen Clower wrote:
>>So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get
>>them is to insult

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

[shaun everiss]

yeah it did other things to.
At 06:11 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote:
>Here here. I've saved up and purchased all of my assistive tech over the 
>years. No group of people is entitled to things for free just because of what 
>may be wrong with them. Remember that virus that disabled all of the pirated 
>copies of JAWS a couple years ago for Christmas? I'd really like to shake the 
>hand of whoever put that crack together. I still chuckle about it when the 
>incident comes to mind.
>
>Steve
>
>
>On 3/2/2010 10:21 AM, Amanda Rush wrote:
>>Thanks for the compliment Doug. Now let me open up another can of worms.
>>I'm not necessarily going out of my way to piss people off, but if it
>>happens, oh well.
>>
>>I think that, to a large extent, a lot of blind people think they're
>>entitled to accessibility from the private sector, and not only that, but
>>entitled to it for free. Yes, it would be nice if we lived in a perfectly
>>accessible world, where everything worked and we didn't have to pay extra
>>or put in any extra work. But we don't. And at least in the US, (I live in
>>the US so I can't comment on the UK or other countries), the ADA, which
>>has very few teeth in itself, doesn't apply to the private sector, unless
>>they're receiving government funding. And even then, there's the
>>"reasonable accommodation" clause. So we really are, in most cases, better
>>off hacking our own solutions together, and maybe sharing them with each
>>other so there's less re-inventing of the wheel. Because trust me, if I
>>were to, say, call FS and tell them that all this Red Hat crap I'm dealing
>>with is almost inaccessible, and I want better support for terminal
>>emulators, they're pretty much going to tell me to fuck myself because
>>there's not enough of a market share for that sort of thing, and same goes
>>for virtual machines and all these other nice new technologies they don't
>>officially support.
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
>>Doug Langley
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:12
>>To: talk2
>>Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest
>>
>>Also, the WFA concept of free life time upgrades also put a nail in its
>>coffin.  Wheres the insentive for Vodaphone to develop a program which
>>wont bring them any sort of positive cash flow? This is a gps program
>>and it needs updated data on a regular basis and wheres the insentive
>>for vodaphone to do *anything* that wont bring them at least the ability
>>to break even? First and formost its about money and 777 blind people
>>that signed a petition who arent obligated (by the license agreement) to
>>ever give them another penny arent going to be insentive enough to do
>>anything about it.
>>
>>
>>On 3/2/2010 7:03 AM, Doug Langley wrote:
>>   
>>>I'm glad to see someone else with a brain. No one ever takes these
>>>internet petitions seriously. I signed it but only because it can only
>>>help more than hurt. That being said, if people spent as much time
>>>working on a new solution instead of trying to save an old dieing one
>>>we would probably all be better off.  This is vodaphone. they hear
>>>from more people in a single hour than they will in this hole
>>>petition.  And all this petition is doing is asking for a reason why.
>>>so we can spend 3 months getting 778 signatures so they can say,
>>>"because it didnt make business sense." Thank you for contacting
>>>vodaphone we hope we can service you in the future.
>>>
>>>On 3/2/2010 6:57 AM, Amanda Rush wrote:
>>> 
K this is a record. I was turned off by about the second line of this
guy's message. I totally get being angry about accessibility or the
   
>>lack
>>   
thereof, but begging for signatures is like begging for charity.
   
>>Neither
>>   
one works very well, and getting angry with the people you're trying to
get signatures/charity from isn't a good thing either. Also, IMO, (and
it's probably only my opinion, and we know what those are like, but
   
>>this
>>   
is the crux of the entire accessibility fight), companies like this one
and every other one ignore these sorts of petitions because, even if
every
single blind user were to call their bluff, we're not a big enough of
their market to matter as far as sales or whatever. And in the case
of the
FS petition, we can all bitch and whine till we're out of breath, but
the
fact is that 90% of their clientel is government contracts. So they can
pretty much do whatever, and the other AT companies will eventually go
along or go out of business, and so there's no real insentive for FS
to do
anything positive. Note: I'm not a huge FS fan. At all. So I hope no
   
>>one
>>   
takes this as rooting for them.

And wow, DJ Patty, haven't heard from you in *ages. I was wondering
   
>>what
>>   
had happened to you. Good to see you're still aro

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

[shaun everiss]

hmmm do it anyway.
Ok I can't prommise any donations but I am part admin of a podcast site, I can 
submit material for inclusion, I can probably promote  the project heck could 
even get my own section basedon that project if I wished at least I think I can.
At 06:32 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote:
>this is something I've been pondering for the last 2 weeks after a 
>conversation with onj
>the Asterisk pbx uses a bounty system to get stuff done. So, basically you 
>take donations for 3-9 months, then offer the money to developers to complete
>the project. and the project that I invision is an open source product based 
>on google maps that's multi plat form. pc, and winmo/symbian.  WX widgits
>are availible for all our major platforms.
>
>In theory this isnt hard to setup but I can smell the headaches from a 
>thousand miles away.  People want donations back, people dont like the finished
>product etc.  I'm not sure I want the project but It does leave me tempted to 
>do it.
>
>On 3/2/2010 8:40 AM, Brandon Hicks wrote:
>block quote
>That would be the best, and if I had the knowledge I'd do it or talk to them 
>about it. Hopefully someone will, because Loadstone could be good if it just
>streamlined the process of getting maps and POIs and got access to the better 
>maps from Google.
>
>
>
>
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Re: The Talk2 List setting up facebook chat on miranda

[shaun everiss]

then why bother with the fb chat plugin then.
At 10:45 p.m. 5/03/2010, you wrote:
>If you have the Facebook Chat plug-in installed, disable it by opening the
>options dialog, selecting plug-ins in the tree view, and unchecking
>facebook.dll in the list of plug-ins.  Restart Miranda once you've done
>this, and open the accounts dialog.  Click the add button, give the
>account a name like FB Chat, Facebook, or whatever else you want to call
>it, preferably a different name to the account created with the
>facebook.dll plug-in.  Choose Jabber as the protocol.  Once the account
>has added, select it in the listbox.  When asked to choose a network type,
>i.e. secure or public XMPP, just leave it on the default setting.  Enter
>your Facebook username (not! email address) and password, and enter
>chat.facebook.com as the server address.  Hit OK, set the account to
>online, and the account should work just fine.
>
>--
>James Scholes
>
>Earlier, Rachel D Keyte wrote:
>Hi guys,
>  I know a lot of you are keen miranda users, so have come for help.
>I just got miranda today (Andre's version) and can not setup facebook
>chat to work with it.  my actual facebook is showing online but not
>jabba.  Someone told me that the jabba type needs to be set to xmpp
>public server, so I set it to that, and enter in my user name and
>chat.facebook.com in the edit combo box. but i find that once I OK
>that, the type defaults back to "facebook chat".
>I've also tried leaving it at facebook chat while entering
>chat.facebook.com but that doesn't work either.
>what am I doing wrong people?
>Thanks,
>Cheers! :)
>
>
>
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Re: The Talk2 List Tonight on The John Zone

[shaun everiss]

where  do you check all those zones.
Hmmm if they had daylight savings it would be lindt.
lint enough is strange enouf but lindt is chocolate and to have something named 
after that sweet thing is good.
Oh dear here is a simpsons quote.
sweet sweet candy!!!
At 03:17 a.m. 10/03/2010, you wrote:
>  There actually is.  Line Island Time.  Right now I believe it's UTC+14.  
> After we moved back to Standard Time in November, it took me an hour to look 
> up each of those time zones and make sure everything was in order.
>
>On 3/9/2010 8:02 AM, Brandon Hicks wrote:
>>There isn't actually a time zone called lint is there?
>>If so, wow.
>>
>>That is all.
>>
>>John Clower wrote:
>>> Until the cease and desist order goes through, it’s time for another 
>>> edition of The John Zone tonight on The Beyond Radio Network! March 9 is 
>>> notoriously an insignificant day historically, and perhaps this year will 
>>> not break the trend. However, the two previous days have been far more 
>>> eventful. On March 7, the 82nd Academy Awards were held in the illustrious 
>>> Kodak Theatre in Los Angeles, California. Literally dozens watched as the 
>>> pioneers of the cinematic world gave each other Oscar statuettes forged in 
>>> the fires of sweet buttery pop corn and sticky theater floors. The John 
>>> Zone shall therefore commemorate this momentous event as only The John Zone 
>>> can.
>>>
>>>It has been widely disseminated that yesterday was International Women’s 
>>>Day, but perhaps just as significantly, March 8 also happened to be the 
>>>anniversary of the first airing of the iconic classic, Beavis and Butt-Head, 
>>>which premiered seventeen years ago yesterday. Honoring both separately 
>>>would be easy enough, but wouldn’t it be even more enjoyable to combine the 
>>>two? Yes, this can be done.
>>>
>>>There are also many a birthday of note: including Bow Wow, 23; Chingy, 30; 
>>>C-Murder, 39; Shannon Leto of 30 Seconds to Mars, 40; Johnny Kelly of Type O 
>>>Negative, 42; Brendan Canty of Fugazi, 44; Mark Lindsay of Paul Revere and 
>>>The Raiders, 68; President Zillur Rahman of Bangladesh, 81; as well as the 
>>>downright spritely Phoebe Knapp and Tsar Alexis I, who are a mere 161 and 
>>>381 years of age, respectively. More Texas-related recordings, a new mashup 
>>>from Jeffrey Rainey, vintage incrimination from a 13-year-old me, your 
>>>requests, comments, and exaggerated descriptions of what you’re having for 
>>>dinner can be heard tonight beginning at 11PM GMT, 6PM EST, 5PM CST, 4PM 
>>>MST, 3PM PST, 1PM HAST, noon SST, and on Wednesday at midnight CET, 1AM EET, 
>>>9AM EST, 10AM EDT, noon NZDT, and 1PM LINT via either 
>>>http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg.m3u or 
>>>http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.mp3.m3u.
>>>
>>>There isn’t really a cease and desist order, by the way.
>>>z
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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The Talk2 List a small update

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
I know that a lot of people on here  follow my lj here
I think maryann, amy arfy and onj are among these.
Yesterday livejournal has decided to take their mobile site offline.
When it came back I found that all posts from the 19th of december of 
last year on have not been posted.

I am totally cheesed off.
I only use this to blog about my goings on, only 1 post a week sometimes 2.
I have a couple options
wordpress at smeveriss.wordpress.com
The main site sucks but the mobile one rocks.
A better one is crashmaster.klangoblog.net which I can easily get up.
I will advise my loyal readers if any exist where I decide to put my patronage.
I am making a couple enquiries  into having my blog on a couple 
friend's servers.

This will give me some space maybe email posting.
I have no resources to have my own server stored locally though or a 
server for the job.

The bandwidth is something I am not sure I could afford to.
So there you have it.
I have no idea if I will ever start blogging but I think klango is a 
safe bet if i do.

Shaun



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Re: The Talk2 List PDAudio realtime2011

[shaun everiss]

yeah a day late.
I was not even there for the show yesterday.
I presume there is  no cartime but when the archive goes live I will get that.
At 08:45 a.m. 27/06/2011, you wrote:
There's only a huge bloody problem with this promotion. It showed up 
a day late. Wah ha ha!


On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:

As summers show up year after year, this list has this amazing 
trend of getting more and more boring.  oops, what a bad start to a 
little promotional  email huh.
Anyways, although this is sadly the case, it doesn't mean the lives 
of those, or events mentioned on this list are just as boring.  In 
fact, it could be argued that they happen to be a great deal more 
interesting.  However, should this not be the case, or should you 
want to  be a part of something strange, PDAudio realtime2011 
begins today at 8:03 pm eastern on TBRN.  There has  been no things 
and stuff or WDGLFM for a while due to various reasons, so  the 
results of opening mouths, mics, and phone lines should be 
something interesting.
After bad things, did AM Talk0 manage to return?  What is AM 
talk0?  Who/what is the zoom dog?  Find out these things and 
more  in the process of listening.
Chances are, you know how to do this by now, but if not, go to 
www.tbrn.net and follow the links.  If you 
have winamp, foobar, or something which offers the same 
functionality, have it open the following URL, and you'll be set.

http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg






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Re: The Talk2 List PDAudio realtime2011

[shaun everiss]

who knows.
I have however figured the link to and gotten the archive.
I have listened only to the first 2 hours last night but its really cool guys.
Keep up the good  breaky work.
On that note it would have been funny if if someone had either farted 
or played the farting sound with echo whenever a word like break, 
broke, etc was mentioned.

At 02:05 a.m. 28/06/2011, you wrote:

Amused!  very much so.  oh well, wonder how it managed to do that
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Perdue
To: talk2
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List PDAudio realtime2011

There's only a huge bloody problem with this promotion. It showed up 
a day late. Wah ha ha!


On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:

As summers show up year after year, this list has this amazing 
trend of getting more and more boring.  oops, what a bad start to a 
little promotional  email huh.
Anyways, although this is sadly the case, it doesn't mean the lives 
of those, or events mentioned on this list are just as boring.  In 
fact, it could be argued that they happen to be a great deal more 
interesting.  However, should this not be the case, or should you 
want to  be a part of something strange, PDAudio realtime2011 
begins today at 8:03 pm eastern on TBRN.  There has  been no things 
and stuff or WDGLFM for a while due to various reasons, so  the 
results of opening mouths, mics, and phone lines should be 
something interesting.
After bad things, did AM Talk0 manage to return?  What is AM 
talk0?  Who/what is the zoom dog?  Find out these things and 
more  in the process of listening.
Chances are, you know how to do this by now, but if not, go to 
www.tbrn.net and follow the links.  If you 
have winamp, foobar, or something which offers the same 
functionality, have it open the following URL, and you'll be set.

http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg






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Re: The Talk2 List PDAudio realtime2011

[shaun everiss]

the archive was cool.
I put in a few hours last night on it.
really cool.
The phone thing was wow.
I especially liked you with munkying round with speakers and voice 
mail systems, reminds me of a movie i saw but i forget the title.

At 02:05 a.m. 30/06/2011, you wrote:

Not really.  It is actually fine the way it is/was.
However, there was a sertain isolation, which you'll hear later in 
the archive, which if existed, could have made a neet ring noise 
when people called.


- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List PDAudio realtime2011



who knows.
I have however figured the link to and gotten the archive.
I have listened only to the first 2 hours last night but its really 
cool guys.

Keep up the good  breaky work.
On that note it would have been funny if if someone had either 
farted or played the farting sound with echo whenever a word like 
break, broke, etc was mentioned.

At 02:05 a.m. 28/06/2011, you wrote:

Amused!  very much so.  oh well, wonder how it managed to do that
- Original Message -
From: <mailto:patr...@pdaudio.net>Patrick Perdue
To: <mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM>talk2
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List PDAudio realtime2011

There's only a huge bloody problem with this promotion. It showed 
up a day late. Wah ha ha!


On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:

As summers show up year after year, this list has this amazing 
trend of getting more and more boring.  oops, what a bad start to 
a little promotional  email huh.
Anyways, although this is sadly the case, it doesn't mean the 
lives of those, or events mentioned on this list are just as 
boring.  In fact, it could be argued that they happen to be a 
great deal more interesting. However, should this not be the 
case, or should you want to  be a part of something strange, 
PDAudio realtime2011 begins today at 8:03 pm eastern on 
TBRN.  There has  been no things and stuff or WDGLFM for a while 
due to various reasons, so  the results of opening mouths, mics, 
and phone lines should be something interesting.
After bad things, did AM Talk0 manage to return?  What is AM 
talk0? Who/what is the zoom dog?  Find out these things and 
more  in the process of listening.
Chances are, you know how to do this by now, but if not, go to 
<http://www.tbrn.net>www.tbrn.net and follow the links.  If you 
have winamp, foobar, or something which offers the same 
functionality, have it open the following URL, and you'll be set.

<http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg>http://listen.tbrn.net:/tbrn.ogg





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Re: The Talk2 List One of the best 404 messages

[shaun everiss]

someone is a major pdaudio fan here.
At 09:04 p.m. 3/07/2011, you wrote:
Since there's not much going on this list these days and I haven't 
contributed to it much either, I thought I'd try to liven it up at 
least a bit by posting this rather amusing 404 message I just found 
while attempting to click on something. Of course I know other sites 
do it, but not many, so it's still interesting.


404: I THINK YOU BROKE SOMETHING...

Or maybe it was our fault.

It is possible someone here dropped the website and the page you are 
looking for fell out.


Or perhaps that page never existed and you just dreamt it up.

Either way, you might want to try searching for what you were 
looking for in the search box on the right hand side of the page, or 
click here to return to 
theCMUwebsite.com home page.

Vanja
http://www.sudar.co.uk
http://mashupradio.net
MSN/windows live messenger: suda...@hotmail.com
AIM: vanja121
Skype: vanja121





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The Talk2 List teamtalk servers

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
Just wandered on how to set one of these up.
I plan to run a temperary service for a net radio station and for my own use.
Obviously because of bandwidth, etc it wouldn't be a perminant thing.
I have 50% of it figured out I think.
I know with no-ip I can make a domain and download an updater client 
for the ip address.
I know I can with the teamtalk install and uninstall scripts I cann 
remove and add the server with ease.

I have a few questions though.
1.  if I put no ip to be bound to when the wizzard asks me will it 
log to my own ip in the box or just localhost.
If it locks to the current ip and thats bound to a no-ip domain by 
typing that in teamtalk can I then connect to that.


What security things do I need to do to allow this to happen.
Do I need to foreward the tcp and udp ports I plan to use for the 
incomming and outgoing connection.

I have always been able to out go to ports with  out any issue.
But here is the problem.
I would prefur not to open ports.
Even though hackers can't actually see the network due to no sharing, 
I really don't want to have to fiddle with routers each time, as I 
don't want to have the server online 24-7.

What do I need to adjust for security, etc.
I guess I can turn off shares though if thats needed, well.I guess I 
could pasword protect the servers, but hmmm the other one was public.

At least the other one i used was public access for standard users.
What is the best platform to run the server on.
My portable can run it, on wireless or cable but going back and 
foreward may be a problem, since if I need to kill wireless to 
switch  to network or something funky happens with it thats it, it goes.

I have a couple options.
the first like mine on xp pro is a desktop with almost the same specs.
Its my dad's work box and can stay on for the day or however long I 
need it for.
The other is my brothers i3, but that has win7 and I have no idea 
about security for that to run teamtalk and stuff on it, and since he 
uses it for everything under the sun I'd prefur not to use it, but whatever.

I am trying to find out how feasable it is to run a server here.
I know the duc and the server clients take up once I have running 14 
mb, with the client takes up about 5% cpu and 12 mb making for a 
total of 26mb, which all systems will take.

once the server is running do I need mics, connected to the box it runs on.
when the server connects is it connecting to my system or just the 
server and do I need a password and username for my system in order 
to connect to the server.
it all looks straight foreward, and resource use is low, what is 
bandwidth usage  like I wander.

if you use audio a lone on highest codec do you use that much?
I need to know the running costs of such a server.




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Re: The Talk2 List random observaion

[shaun everiss]

talk2 has almost 0 traphic dustin.
There is just no real descussion on this list no more.

When going through some old e-mail, I realize that I've stopped 
receiving regular Novell training updates. This makes me sad. I was 
originally NCNA certified almost exactly ten years ago, and now it's 
the end of an era. I can't forward those messages to talk2 anymore 
for no one to care about. This makes me a very sad person, and a 
very redundant one, since I've already mentioned this once before.


Oh well. Back to your life.

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Re: The Talk2 List Vista: was Re: Re[2]: Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July 2006

[shaun everiss]

thats piracy overkill.
mp3s do not have licences.
not everything should have a licence.
Thats stupid.
At 12:19 AM 6/5/2006, you wrote:
I think it will own in many aspects but it will suck in the locking 
down of things.  For example,any music content you play needs a 
microsoft licence. If it doesn't have that, the computer locks down 
the soundcard, according to early reports.

- Original Message - From: "Drop9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:29 AM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter 
HTML - July 2006




Well as to vista I think it will own. Yes I am sighted and that is why I am
saying it. Vista was designed for the sighted user with things such as
window previews 3D rotation and sidebars as well as the new colour scheme.
So with all that vista will own in my opinion. But as to other aspects other
then some security crap nothing has really changed. So in the end it is up
to you. All I am going to say is don't hate on what you haven't tried.

Drop9


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Caitlin H
Sent: June 3, 2006 8:50 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006

Geez Louise! Was it really that long ago taht XP came out? It seems like
yesterday to me. Are you sure it was 2002??? Wow!
- Original Message -
From: "Farhan Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Windows xp came out in 2001 or 2002 to frankly its time microsoft updated.



Of course they would.
ON 6/3/2006 at 13:37 Caitlin H said
Hey Guys,
What are the indications that Windows Vista will suck? Please
elucidate, for I am also pensive as to why we should be offered such a
new Windows thingy when XP just came out. What is it claiming to have
that XP doesn't, and why do you all not like it so far?
- Original Message -
From: "TJ Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



windows vista appears to be the suck i have yet to see anything that
makes me excited about vista.
I'm thinking my next machine  will be running the speaking gnome
package ibm is developing.

tj
- Original Message -
From: "derek Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Well, as far as I'm concerned, windows vista will suck and lose, and
just totally be the utter blah.
Thus, I'm not upgrading.
If I can hang on too, and maintain a windows 98 machine for dos
things, then I can surely let this box and future versions of it,
run on xp for a jolly good long time.
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Perdue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML -
July
2006



On 6/2/2006, 3:35:58 PM EST, shaun wrote:


I just feel sorry for those that only have dx8.01 supporting cards.



Like, oh no! I feel sorry for myself because I only have an 8 MB
AGP card in one machine that I can't see, a 4 MB one in the other
one that I can't see, and two with 128 MB each that I still can't
see! Let's see...
Downstairs, I've got another card with dual VGA support and no
monitors hooked up to it. Why? Because I can't see it! Yeah, correct!
Oh yes, and I feel even sorrier for Farhan, who, because I am
cheap, has a 2 MB PCI card! Moohahahahahahahahahaha!

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Re: The Talk2 List Vista: was Re: Re[2]: Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July 2006

[shaun everiss]

thats piracy overkill.
mp3s do not have licences.
not everything should have a licence.
Thats stupid.
At 12:19 AM 6/5/2006, you wrote:
I think it will own in many aspects but it will suck in the locking 
down of things.  For example,any music content you play needs a 
microsoft licence. If it doesn't have that, the computer locks down 
the soundcard, according to early reports.

- Original Message - From: "Drop9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:29 AM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter 
HTML - July 2006




Well as to vista I think it will own. Yes I am sighted and that is why I am
saying it. Vista was designed for the sighted user with things such as
window previews 3D rotation and sidebars as well as the new colour scheme.
So with all that vista will own in my opinion. But as to other aspects other
then some security crap nothing has really changed. So in the end it is up
to you. All I am going to say is don't hate on what you haven't tried.

Drop9


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Caitlin H
Sent: June 3, 2006 8:50 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006

Geez Louise! Was it really that long ago taht XP came out? It seems like
yesterday to me. Are you sure it was 2002??? Wow!
- Original Message -
From: "Farhan Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Windows xp came out in 2001 or 2002 to frankly its time microsoft updated.



Of course they would.
ON 6/3/2006 at 13:37 Caitlin H said
Hey Guys,
What are the indications that Windows Vista will suck? Please
elucidate, for I am also pensive as to why we should be offered such a
new Windows thingy when XP just came out. What is it claiming to have
that XP doesn't, and why do you all not like it so far?
- Original Message -
From: "TJ Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



windows vista appears to be the suck i have yet to see anything that
makes me excited about vista.
I'm thinking my next machine  will be running the speaking gnome
package ibm is developing.

tj
- Original Message -
From: "derek Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Well, as far as I'm concerned, windows vista will suck and lose, and
just totally be the utter blah.
Thus, I'm not upgrading.
If I can hang on too, and maintain a windows 98 machine for dos
things, then I can surely let this box and future versions of it,
run on xp for a jolly good long time.
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Perdue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML -
July
2006



On 6/2/2006, 3:35:58 PM EST, shaun wrote:


I just feel sorry for those that only have dx8.01 supporting cards.



Like, oh no! I feel sorry for myself because I only have an 8 MB
AGP card in one machine that I can't see, a 4 MB one in the other
one that I can't see, and two with 128 MB each that I still can't
see! Let's see...
Downstairs, I've got another card with dual VGA support and no
monitors hooked up to it. Why? Because I can't see it! Yeah, correct!
Oh yes, and I feel even sorrier for Farhan, who, because I am
cheap, has a 2 MB PCI card! Moohahahahahahahahahaha!

-- --
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KE4DYI
Greensboro, NC
website: http://www.pdaudio.net
home: +1(828)221-2971
Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger:
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Re: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July 2006

[shaun everiss]

I aggree with you.
I'm not going to upgrade anything including jaws and hal until this 
system dies.

At any case I suspect xp will stay around for a few more years yet.
I'm in no hurry, its all the security and visual side.
Would bee cool if there was a version just for sound.
WHat about windows for blind people, that would rock.
Especially when if you factored in all the little enhancements over 
normal functions even keyboard functions, At 04:01 AM 6/6/2006, you wrote:
Isn't it safe to say that Windows in general, or any other Gui, is 
designed for sighted people? lol
Anyay, if they don't force it down my throat I'm not going out to 
find Vista. Especially if I have to pay that much money for it.


- Original Message - From: "Drop9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:29 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter 
HTML - July 2006




Well as to vista I think it will own. Yes I am sighted and that is why I am
saying it. Vista was designed for the sighted user with things such as
window previews 3D rotation and sidebars as well as the new colour scheme.
So with all that vista will own in my opinion. But as to other aspects other
then some security crap nothing has really changed. So in the end it is up
to you. All I am going to say is don't hate on what you haven't tried.

Drop9


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Caitlin H
Sent: June 3, 2006 8:50 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006

Geez Louise! Was it really that long ago taht XP came out? It seems like
yesterday to me. Are you sure it was 2002??? Wow!
- Original Message -
From: "Farhan Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Windows xp came out in 2001 or 2002 to frankly its time microsoft updated.



Of course they would.
ON 6/3/2006 at 13:37 Caitlin H said
Hey Guys,
What are the indications that Windows Vista will suck? Please
elucidate, for I am also pensive as to why we should be offered such a
new Windows thingy when XP just came out. What is it claiming to have
that XP doesn't, and why do you all not like it so far?
- Original Message -
From: "TJ Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



windows vista appears to be the suck i have yet to see anything that
makes me excited about vista.
I'm thinking my next machine  will be running the speaking gnome
package ibm is developing.

tj
- Original Message -
From: "derek Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Well, as far as I'm concerned, windows vista will suck and lose, and
just totally be the utter blah.
Thus, I'm not upgrading.
If I can hang on too, and maintain a windows 98 machine for dos
things, then I can surely let this box and future versions of it,
run on xp for a jolly good long time.
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Perdue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML -
July
2006



On 6/2/2006, 3:35:58 PM EST, shaun wrote:


I just feel sorry for those that only have dx8.01 supporting cards.



Like, oh no! I feel sorry for myself because I only have an 8 MB
AGP card in one machine that I can't see, a 4 MB one in the other
one that I can't see, and two with 128 MB each that I still can't
see! Let's see...
Downstairs, I've got another card with dual VGA support and no
monitors hooked up to it. Why? Because I can't see it! Yeah, correct!
Oh yes, and I feel even sorrier for Farhan, who, because I am
cheap, has a 2 MB PCI card! Moohahahahahahahahahaha!

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KE4DYI
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website: http://www.pdaudio.net
home: +1(828)221-2971
Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger:
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Re: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July 2006

[shaun everiss]

Oh yeah and instead of the games we get in windows we get pinball 
xtreem, pinball sod, casino and quake.

At 04:01 AM 6/6/2006, you wrote:
Isn't it safe to say that Windows in general, or any other Gui, is 
designed for sighted people? lol
Anyay, if they don't force it down my throat I'm not going out to 
find Vista. Especially if I have to pay that much money for it.


- Original Message - From: "Drop9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:29 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter 
HTML - July 2006




Well as to vista I think it will own. Yes I am sighted and that is why I am
saying it. Vista was designed for the sighted user with things such as
window previews 3D rotation and sidebars as well as the new colour scheme.
So with all that vista will own in my opinion. But as to other aspects other
then some security crap nothing has really changed. So in the end it is up
to you. All I am going to say is don't hate on what you haven't tried.

Drop9


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Caitlin H
Sent: June 3, 2006 8:50 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006

Geez Louise! Was it really that long ago taht XP came out? It seems like
yesterday to me. Are you sure it was 2002??? Wow!
- Original Message -
From: "Farhan Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re[2]: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Windows xp came out in 2001 or 2002 to frankly its time microsoft updated.



Of course they would.
ON 6/3/2006 at 13:37 Caitlin H said
Hey Guys,
What are the indications that Windows Vista will suck? Please
elucidate, for I am also pensive as to why we should be offered such a
new Windows thingy when XP just came out. What is it claiming to have
that XP doesn't, and why do you all not like it so far?
- Original Message -
From: "TJ Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



windows vista appears to be the suck i have yet to see anything that
makes me excited about vista.
I'm thinking my next machine  will be running the speaking gnome
package ibm is developing.

tj
- Original Message -
From: "derek Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML - July
2006



Well, as far as I'm concerned, windows vista will suck and lose, and
just totally be the utter blah.
Thus, I'm not upgrading.
If I can hang on too, and maintain a windows 98 machine for dos
things, then I can surely let this box and future versions of it,
run on xp for a jolly good long time.
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Perdue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: [SFNL] Scot's Newsletter HTML -
July
2006



On 6/2/2006, 3:35:58 PM EST, shaun wrote:


I just feel sorry for those that only have dx8.01 supporting cards.



Like, oh no! I feel sorry for myself because I only have an 8 MB
AGP card in one machine that I can't see, a 4 MB one in the other
one that I can't see, and two with 128 MB each that I still can't
see! Let's see...
Downstairs, I've got another card with dual VGA support and no
monitors hooked up to it. Why? Because I can't see it! Yeah, correct!
Oh yes, and I feel even sorrier for Farhan, who, because I am
cheap, has a 2 MB PCI card! Moohahahahahahahahahaha!

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KE4DYI
Greensboro, NC
website: http://www.pdaudio.net
home: +1(828)221-2971
Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
skype: Borris

For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and
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The Talk2 List fx radio

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
How do I connect to fx radio with winamp?
I enter in http://tbrn.net:/fx.aac
in the winamp url box and push enter I then get a connecting message 
and seconds later that winamp has stopped.

I have v 5.22 I can connect to all other automated streems.

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: Congratulations.

[shaun everiss]

hmmm I'd like the 386 with nothing on it.
I have a nice dead 386 and I want to play old stuff.
At 06:40 PM 6/7/2006, you wrote:

On 6/7/2006, 2:01:44 AM EDT, Hayden wrote:

> Now for a limited time you can buy two items of our woman's marked down
> lingerie and get along with your cracked copy of Windwos Vista, a 
free broke

> 128 ram stick!!
> Only, here at WallFart!!


Not only that, you'll also get a dead Maxtor 60 GB IDE hard drive, a
cracked flat-panel LCD monitor, and a brand-new,
never-opened IBM 80-386 dx25 system, equipped with Windows Vista!



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Re: The Talk2 List fx radio

[shaun everiss]

actually here if I use the tbrn mountopoint it plays mp3 pro here.
I can't play any aac streams though and I am supposed to.
At 11:32 PM 6/7/2006, you wrote:

Winamp 5.22 will not for me, play any icecast streams either and I thought
it was just me.  Both my laptop and desktop just don't care.  when I use the
/tbrn mountpoint instead of /fx.aac it doesn't play in mp3 pro and if I try
fx.aac, nope.  Not interested.

- Original Message -----
From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "talk2" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:08 AM
Subject: The Talk2 List fx radio


| Hi all.
| How do I connect to fx radio with winamp?
| I enter in http://tbrn.net:/fx.aac
| in the winamp url box and push enter I then get a connecting message
| and seconds later that winamp has stopped.
| I have v 5.22 I can connect to all other automated streems.
|
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Re: The Talk2 List fx radio

[shaun everiss]

and aac.
I don't give a frag about the library.
It does now seem to sometimes like to skip small wav files or not 
play some files of mp3 or wav format and like to cut out ends of files.

I still like winamp though, its not as bad as real or windowsmedia.
another thing that really pisses me off  is how when it starts if a 
plugin is out of date winamp refuses to start untill you remove or 
update the plugin.

With no explaination.
Yesnullsoft winamp has got really crappy but not as bad as windows 
media player and I will still use it.


At 11:00 AM 6/8/2006, you wrote:
I'm disappointed in winamp, or the creaters of it, first it's 
the accessibility of the library, and now it's the inability to 
play streams that end in .ogg, it's f

*cking wrong!
Have a great day Ray!

The last part of this message contains information on how to contact 
me, and some important links!

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address:
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The Talk2 List winamp 5.23

[shaun everiss]

Hmm.
Just read the whats new file of this latestversion.
The aac streem bug seems fixed according to this file.
So at least nullsoft are still trying.

The Talk2 List superliam mario mod

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
I found this a while back on http://onj.andrelouis.com/mac.
It was a mario implimentation of superliam sounds and music.
Could the person if they are are on her please email me off list and 
tell me where they got the sounds for everything and music.
The mod is not complete and I wish to finnish it for a free release 
if possible to audiogames.net or simular.

The Talk2 List pdaudio 2006

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
any news when the pdaudio streams will broadcast?
I have been prepairing for it for a while now, getting stuff so I 
have no interuptions etc.

I have a couple things to do now but Soon I will be done.

The Talk2 List what happened to the pdaudio stream?

[shaun everiss]

Its not usualy 2 hours.
Its usualy longer.

The Talk2 List pdaudio

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
I havn't heard anyting on the archive for the 2006 streams of pdaudio.

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: Top tech tidbits for Thursday, June 22, 2006

[shaun everiss]

What I do is start skype
 then skread.
At 04:12 AM 6/24/2006, you wrote:
And I can say, indubitably, that SKRead is a good little proggy.  It 
certainly beats Skypewatch on the dear old JAWS scripts by a 
load.  The only thing tha'ts annoying is that sometimes skype 
doesn't connect before SKRead launches, and then SKRead throws up an error.

Thanks,
Nick
- Original Message -
From: RAYMOND GAY
To: talk2
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 3:04 AM
Subject: The Talk2 List Fw: Top tech tidbits for Thursday, June 22, 2006


"Falling is easy
It's getting back up that becomes the problem
And if you believe you can find a way out
Then you've solved the problem"(staind, "falling"
- Original Message -
From: Dean Martineau
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: Top tech tidbits for Thursday, June 22, 2006

Top Tech tidbits for Thursday, June 22, 2006

1)  Read from the Braille Monitor the official release announcement
for the Kurzweil NFB Reader, a first-of-its-kind portable reader
costing $3,495.
http://www.nfb.org/bm/bm06/bm0607/bm060703.htm

2)  Jonathan Mosen's recent 100-minute Accessible World presentation
on Skype can be downloaded here:
http://accessibleworld.org/show.php?contentid=43

3)  Sean randall has updated his free Skype add-on called SKRead.  It
reads out various events such as call status,
contact status information or skype chats, and is screen-reader-independent.
http://www.randylaptop.com/projects/skread/

4)  Jim Grimsby has updated the JFW scripts for winamp to support the
winamp Library which is no longer accessible.  the scripts can be
found on the Programs page on jfwlite, under the audio-related
applications section.
www.jfwlite.com

5)  The public beta phase is over, and JFW 7.1 has been released.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws710fea.asp

6) De Witt & Associates has produced a $129 tutorial on using the
Sendero GPS system for the blind in print, braille and daisy formats.
http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4193403&s=116970891

7)  the next free online training from Talking Communities will take
place at midnight on GMT Tuesday, 27 June, and will be entitled
Basics of File Transfer Protocol (FTP) and Setting Up An FTP Server.
http://www.talkingcommunities.com/pat

8)  From the Fred's Head Companion
http://feeds.feedburner.com/FredsHeadCompanion?m=1740
we learn about a fully-audio adventure game, Sounds Like Fun.
http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/assist/et/2005/SoundsLikeFun.html

9) Dancing Dots announces the release of CakeTalking 5.0, the latest
version of this package, which gives JAWS functionality to the Sonar
music production package.
http://www.dancingdots.com/index.htm

10) Triumph technology is offering a $200 discount on its MPac to
those who attend either of the national conventions for the blind in
the US in July.  the M-Pac consists of a PocketPc device, bluetooth
keyboard, the MobileSpeak Pocket screen reader and a tutorial.
http://www.triumphonic.com/

11)  Freedom Scientific has also released version 10 of the screen
enlargement program MAGic.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_MAG100.asp

12)  Jamal Mazrui has created a zip file of all the help
documentation for JFW 7.1 in text format.
http://www.empowermentzone.com/jfw71doc.zip

13)  Jackie Rumble has created a mailing list called
technical-support.  To join, write to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

14)  If you want to listen to the AccessWatch podcast, discussing
accessible software, subscribe to the podcast here:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/accesswatch

15)  From Jeff bishop's Desert Skies blog
http://jeffbishop.net/archive/2006/06/22/811.aspx
we learn about a site where you can test your firewall for "leaks."
http://oncomputerstips.blogspot.com/2006/06/firewall-leak-tester.html

16)  another tip from Fred's Head Companion, learn how to use MSN
Messenger to get information from the Encarta encyclopedia.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/FredsHeadCompanion?m=1744

17)  EASI offers a free web clinic on 27 June 

Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: IRS Notification - Please Read This .

[shaun everiss]

Thats not the question you should be asking yourself.
You sould be asking how much of my lagit mail will I get?
You can have a spam free system.
Blick list things, entire domains if you want, no mail and no spam.
Add in miss configuration and a couple reformats.
Nothing is fully secure.
If you get secure then access goes out the window.
At 10:09 AM 6/26/2006, you wrote:

Spam is becoming more and more rediculous. How the hell do we 
possibly fight it all off?

Is there any email service that's spam free 100%?
Ray!

"Falling is easy
It's getting back up that becomes the problem
And if you believe you can find a way out
Then you've solved the problem"(staind, "falling"


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Re: The Talk2 List the last random3 broadcast, msg2

[shaun everiss]

I never heard about any cast before.
I would like one I have this crappy bandwidth but yeah teamtalk may 
be my ownly option, servers seem to be blocked  by my isp for 
security things for casting on.
Either that or I have to pay extra for stream support, which I will 
not do  Not unless I can get the 30gb bandwidth cap from worldnet that is.

At 10:36 PM 6/30/2006, you wrote:


Uh, and these guys are who again? I think i missed
something here. What the heck was that all about? And
a broadcast on teamtalk? Huh?

--- Patrick Perdue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 6/29/2006, 4:23:16 AM EST, Ihug wrote:
>
> > Looks like the tbrn server is down.
> > I went to broadcast my program, and couldn't
> connect, and stuffed up the recording.
> > So good by from myself, Shaun, and the rest of the
> PSRNZ recording Teem.
>
>
> And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what you get for
> trying to broadcast a
> pre-recorded show on, team, talk? Yeah, ya know
> what? I honestly think enough
> has been said without really saying anything.
> Have a wonderful life.
>
>
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> KE4DYI
> Greensboro, NC
> website: http://www.pdaudio.net
> home: +1(828)221-2971
> Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583
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> 
> For anything related to the yamaha motif line of
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>
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Re: The Talk2 List For anybody who don't know me and my music

[shaun everiss]

Happy to meet the person behind the cool music.
I have all your stuff.
Yeah it would be good to know when a new track comes up.
I check every month or so and grabb what I want.
At 02:06 AM 7/14/2006, you wrote:


Hi.
I just subscribed to this list on my new e-mail address.
For those who don't know, I'm known as Dj TT. I'm coming from 
sweden, so that's why my spelling of things might be weird sometimes.
I do alot of mixing and cool things using Cool Edit 2000, prosonics 
timefactory (and that's a program for time stretching), and you can 
find my stuff at the following address:

http://tbrn.net/djtt
I have loads of things there, including alot of mixes of Andre's stuff.
That's just what I had to say right now, and I'm planning on posting 
here when I release a new track or a new mix.


Pease

Dj TT (a.k.a Tor)


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Re: The Talk2 List translations, year 3

[shaun everiss]

Oh man.
Weird nightmare.
really is weird.
At 02:15 AM 7/14/2006, you wrote:

Ok people, this has been talk2's most borring summer, and thus, a 
bit that I started 2 years ago, which is still funny to this day in 
such times as these!

props to google, of course.

original text.
written by Andre Louis

braille needles that go up and down and as your hands go sideways, 
the needles are so sharp they stab you time and time again, and all 
you can do about it
is wish, just wish they would stop.  The pain of the poison from the 
tips of each individual group of 8 dots is beginning to take it's 
toal on your system,

and all you want to do is just shut down.
Shut down and feel nothing more.  Ever again.  Nothing...
And the world reclaims you like it should, the way it did before you 
were even thought of, and you are powerless to stop it, and you 
still continue to try
and read the passage of the book, over and over again like a stuck 
record, because you know nothing else.  You've always known this is 
how it would end.

 Death by dots, death by you're own hand, literally.
Each time you skim the line with your fingers more of the poison 
seaps into you and you get weaker and weaker still and yet you read 
until the last.
Then, finally, you are gone.  Death or what you think is death, has 
reclaimed you, but it really isn't that at all.
This is the same dream or rather, nightmare you have been having for 
months now, and you've no idea where it came from or why it 
continues to haunt you

night after night, but it does, and what are you going to do about it?

***from german to english and back again:
Braille needles, which go off on and and are during your hands 
laterally to go, the needles thus sharp, which they erstechen you 
time indicator time again, and everything you over it to do can is 
desire, fair desire, which they would stop.  The pain of the poison 
of the points of each individual group of 8 points begin to take it 
are toal on your system, and everything, which you would like to do, 
is closed straight.  Nothing more close and believe.  At all 
again.  Nothing…  And you like the world recuperation it should, the 
way, which did it, before you were thought even on and you powerless 
are, it to stop and you still continue to try and read the passage 
of the book, over and over again like a clung recording, because you 
do not know anything otherwise.  You always knew that this is, as it 
would terminate.   Death by points, death by you are to possess hand 
literally.  Every time you slide the line with your fingers more 
that poison seaps into you and you weaker and weaker silence and 
receive nevertheless, reads you to last.  Then you are finally 
gone.  Death or which you think, death, has you is back-demanded, 
but it really at all is not.  Come of, did this is the same dream or 
rather, nightmare, which you had for months now, and you do not have 
an idea, which he or why he continues, you to frequent night after 
night, but he, and which you will do over it?


***from Italian to english and back again:
Braille needles, than is extinguished over and and is during your 
hands laterally to go, of the needles the sharp therefore, than 
erstechen you time of the time pointer still and all over it to make 
can is desire, just desire, that they would arrest.  The pain of the 
poison of the points of every specific group of 8 points begins to 
take it is toal on your system and all, that you have intentional to 
make, straight it is closed.  Nothing finer and believes.  At all 
still.  Nothing…  And appreciate the recovery that would have, the 
sense of the world, than it has made, before that there are even 
thinks to you over and powerless you are, it in order to arrest 
itself and still continued to try and to read the passage of the 
book, repeatedly still like a joined recording, because you do not 
know on the contrary null.  You have always known that this is, 
poichè would finish.   The dead women from the points, died from you 
are to possess the hand literally.  Every time that fairies to slide 
the line with yours more barrette that they poison seaps you and in 
Hush more weak person and more weak person you and receive however, 
them law to the last one.  Then at last you have gone.  Died or that 
thoughts, the dead women, have them behind-are demanded, but really 
at all it is not.  Come of, this is the same dream or rather, 
incubus, than hour you have had for the months and not to have an 
idea, than or because it continues, you to attend the night after 
the night, but he and that you will make over it?


***From english to spanish and back again:
Needles of Braille, that excessive extinguished and and is during 
your hands laterally to go, of the needles the sharp therefore, that 
still you time of the indicator of the time and throughout to do can 
is desire, right desire, that it would arrest.  The pain the poison 
of the points of each specific group of 8 points begins to take it 

Re: The Talk2 List Freaky fwoof fever

[shaun everiss]

nice track man.
At 05:22 AM 7/15/2006, you wrote:

Hi. Today I released a new track, actually I uploaded it late night 
yestorday, but I was too tired to tell anyone about it.

Derik sent me a demo from his foxtex multitrack recorder that he has.
I don't know who did it but it's called "fostex fever". It's got 8 
tracks including 3 vocal tracks.
I time compressed "fostex fever" from 104 to 120 bpm. I only used 
the vocal tracks.
I mixed it with the instrumental parts from the freaky freaky fwoof 
song. The lyrics from freaky fwoof is coming from at&t Mike. I used 
the interactive demo page and wrote the lyrics in to it. I time 
compresssed that from 75 bpm to 60 and 120 bpm, and I mixed in a bit 
of Andre's "how comes" at the end.

Enjoy!
http://www.tbrn.net/djtt/freaky%20fwoof%20fever.mp3


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The Talk2 List dumb but

[shaun everiss]

Hi all.
This may sound dumb to some of you.
I have never used settings packager.
How do I install the myspace package into jaws 6.20?


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The Talk2 List tbrn server

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
 guys whats  up with tbrn.net?
Its offline or rather the web and archives part is, not the streams.
I was getting some onj files and other stuff from it and it decided 
to die on me.

I can still get streams though.

Re: The Talk2 List Check out my new podcast.

[shaun everiss]

thanks for this.
I'm not into some of this as I don't have the bandwidth, but I can put it out.
At 07:28 p.m. 21/08/2006, you wrote:

--
John MooreHey all! I have a podcast called John Moore's Audio Blog.
For now, it is a daily podcast in which I ramble and sometimes do
technology podcasts. The next edition will be a sound-seeing tour of
the North Texas State Fair carnival. I do amusement parks and
carnivals as a regular hobby, so you can expect more of these. I took
my recorder onto the rides with me (even the ones that go
upside-down!) and recorded them all. There is some hysterical bumper
car action in this one. It will be uploaded later today. So far, I
have reviews of a talking atomic clock, a talking atomic watch, and an
accessible cell phone. Later this week, I will talk about XM Radio and
the Sleep Number Bed. To check out the podcast, go to
http://www.gcast.com/u/coasterfreak88. There you will find all the
info about subscribing. Note to I-Tunes users: I do not have an
I-Tunes URL and I don't want to get one. You will have to get the
podcasts by e-mail. That option is enabled. I hope you all subscribe.


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Re: The Talk2 List Fwd: model talker now works with jaws and window eyes!

[shaun everiss]

hmm coolness in a bag.
At 05:59 a.m. 22/08/2006, you wrote:
This is disturbing, would you all not agree? I'll have to test this 
out later this week when I get some free time.




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Subject: model talker now works with jaws and window eyes!
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Hi,

Someone from microsoft has figured out why model talker will not 
work with jaws and window eyes and other sapi5 applications! The 
reason is a dll is not registered in the c:\windows\system32\ 
folder or directory. Once you register this dll you may use model 
talker with jaws, window eyes, and any other sapi5 application 
available that sees it. Any voices you create with the InvTool 
program will instantly show up in the list of available voices once 
you are done creating the voice. There are jaws scripts for the 
Invtool program to help people use it a little better. I have them 
if anyone wants them. If someone would be willing to make 
window-eyes set files that'd be great!
Here are the directions for registering the dll. Please review each 
direction and or command carefully with your screen reader's review commands.


1. go to start menu and then to run.
2. in the run dialog box type:
cmd
and press enter. alternatively, go to your windows 95/98/2000/me/xp 
command prompt.

3. at the command prompt type:
cd\windows\system32\
4. after each command at the command prompt you must press enter 
for the command to be executed.

5. you should now hear or see c:\windows\system32\>
6. now type:
regsvr32 mtttseng.dll
press enter and a dialog will come up saying that the dll is registered.
press enter on ok and you're back at the command prompt.
now type exit and you're back in regular windows.
Now go ahead and see if model talker works with your screen reader! 
Again, any voices you create will instantly show up in the list of 
model talker voices. have fun and hopefully we'll have some new 
screen reader voices to pass around on or off list to each other soon!


Josh

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Re: The Talk2 List superficial message of the day

[shaun everiss]

what happens in 2012?
Hmm reminds me of the vogons in hhtgg.
they were very company related, they got rid of planets because of 
the paperwork of keeping them and once they were in the line to get 
rid of they didn't want to care about much about if things changed 
because more paperwork.
Lazy business people, wander if mr adams was making fun of companies 
in general.

At 05:49 a.m. 25/08/2006, you wrote:

On 8/24/2006, 11:33:41 AM EDT, derek wrote:

> and now, your message just got deep!


Oh man, you mean even the universe itself is subjected to corporate
down-sizing? What did Pluto ever do to deserve this kind of treatment,
other than just kind of hanging out, being really cold and not doing
terribly much of anything? Or was that the universe's problem? No
productivity? In that case, we should just get rid of most of the other
planets too, with the exception of Jupiter (it's got volcanoes or
something like that), Mars (for looking potentially interesting), 
and us. Well, we're

all going to die in 2012 anyway, so I think that's been answered.
I guess they just want to get rid of everything else first, so no one
will take notice when Earth suddenly disappears from the by then empty
list of planets in the solar system of doom.
It will save the universe loads of money if we go away, after all.

I think we'd better make a patition to send to... uhm... God? Er,
whoever happens to be in charge of this, and put it to rights. If
someone can pass a patition on how the moon is evil and should be blown
up, then this should be a simple matter to deal with, I should think.


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Re: The Talk2 List superficial message of the day

[shaun everiss]

except the few that escape on a stolen ship or maybe not?
At 02:05 p.m. 25/08/2006, you wrote:

On 8/24/2006, 9:28:07 PM EDT, kerry wrote:

> How is this proven and that means we only have 6 years to live Oh my god!


Yep, that's right, six years. Get drunk and party, for after 2012, there
will be nothing left... No trace of humanity... The proverbial "good
boof", if you will.
The ultimate Tango Uniform. The final 73... Oh yeah!


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Re: The Talk2 List BN, PM, and moves from FS

[shaun everiss]

note takers are good if you want to do sertain things.
However codefact.com has software that will allow you to use a 
standard handheld pocket pc and pocket hal is around also.

Those note takers do have their place, but yeah I can do more on this laptop.
At 01:04 a.m. 20/09/2006, you wrote:
Yeah really, we can complain all we want, but the point is, that's 
how the real world of business and capitalism works these days. It 
might be good or not, but that's how it is. I'm sure if somehow Bill 
Gates started working for apple he'd suddenly say that the windows 
is the worst thing that ever existed, OK, I'm being  sarcastic, but 
you get the point.  As for the actual issues of BN, or PM or any of 
that crap, I don't care about them either, I really don't give a 
crap about any of them note takers. Give me a laptop any time, I can 
do  a lot more for paying a lot less.

Vanja
http://www.sudar.co.uk
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On 9/19/2006, 1:44:14 AM EDT, Matthew wrote:


You've got a point there, but he was making money in his other job...


Ever considered the ever so slight possibility that he just may have gotten a
better deal?

You're boring.

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RE: The Talk2 List The Dan Show and other things

[shaun everiss]

tHIS MAY INTEREST ALL DJS AND OTHERS THAT ARE IN NZ USING XTRA.
tHERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A 50 BUCK UNLIMMITED DATA PLAN ITS SUBJECT TO 
SPEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THINGS LIKE FILE SHARING PROGRAMS, AND PEAK 
TIMES, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY BLAME THAT REALLY.

At 02:24 p.m. 26/09/2006, you wrote:

I'll stick to TBRN all the same. Thanks.




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Subject: Re: The Talk2 List The Dan Show and other things

Did i miss something here? Is jammin part of the tbrn family now? 
Seems kinda odd for a station to advertise on another stations list. 
Just curious.


kerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
Its kerry from Jammin Hits Radio. Don't forget to check out The Dan 
show at 10 eastern and also check out Daniel Chapter one Health 
Watch at 8 to 10 P M eastern. Also we at Jammin Hits Radio would 
like it if some one donated to the station we are a listener 
supported radio station. For more imformation contact the general manager at

(1206)736-0728
or the assistant manager at
(1206)888-8833
to find out how you can donate and to by a Dan Show arkive C D or 
any arkive C D's of Jammin Hits Radio
Keep listening to Jammin Hits Radio for the best in programing! the 
station address is jamminhitsradio.dyndns.org:8000 in your winamp or 
itunes player.





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Re: The Talk2 List Eudora to go open source

[shaun everiss]

I must say that this is a shock to me.
However, I've always liked eudora for what it is.
And as long as it keeps being as accessible as it is, I'm going for it.
Thanks for this article.
I have only legally used th lite version.
Its going to be cool now eudora is going opensource though.
This does mean ofcause that it could become inaccessible, but 
depending on the licences envolved we could make our own distribution.

At 03:45 p.m. 12/10/2006, you wrote:
Anyone who doesn't want to pay for The Bat! Or stick with Microsoft 
Outlook may find the following of interest, especially existing Eudora users.


October 11, 2006,  2:57 PM
Qualcomm on Wednesday joined up with the Mozilla Foundation to 
announce it is transitioning

Eudora
 into an open source e-mail client that will be based upon
Thunderbird
. In turn, all future versions of Eudora will be free and Qualcomm 
will discontinue

the current paid client.
Although it may seem like Eudora is simply abandoning its e-mail 
software, which
has a small but strong following of loyal users, the company claims 
the Thunderbird-based
client will retain "Eudora's uniquely rich feature set and 
productivity enhancements."
The first release of the open source client is expected in early 
2007, at which
point Eudora will cease selling the product commercially. In the 
meantime, Eudora
will be priced at $19.95 USD and come with three incidents of 
support in a six month
period. Until today, Qualcomm sold Eudora versions for a suggested 
retail price of

as high as $49.95 USD.
Current Eudora users can choose to keep running the ad-supported 
version indefinitely
after upgrading to version 7.1 for Windows and 6.2.4 for Mac OS X, 
released last
week but announced only today. Qualcomm says it will stop displaying 
advertisements

in the client sometime early next year.
"Qualcomm has decided not to remain in the email market because it 
is not in alignment
with the core business or strategic goals," the company said. "By 
moving Eudora to
an open source product, Qualcomm can exit the Eudora business while 
still supporting
Eudora users and advancing the Eudora e-mail client at a faster pace 
than before,

through the power of the open source development community."
"We're pleased to welcome Eudora and its millions of users to the 
world of open source,"
said Frank Hecker, executive director of the Mozilla Foundation. 
"This effort should
further enrich the Thunderbird technology platform and provide users 
of both products

with an even richer email experience."
In recent months, reviewers continued to give Eudora the performance 
edge for use
with enterprise e-mail, compared against Thunderbird (though not 
against Microsoft
Outlook). However, in practice, some have noted Eudora has suffered 
limited performance

problems with recent versions,
prompting in at least one case
 suggestions that users (in this case, students) try Thunderbird instead.

Re: The Talk2 List Yamaha Motif Classic for sale

[shaun everiss]

what are you replacing it with?
At 12:51 p.m. 12/10/2006, you wrote:

Hi all:

I'm selling my YAmaha Motif classic, fully loaded, It comes with 64 mb
of ram, PLG150-vl acoustic modeling plugin board, sustain pedal and BC-3
breath controller. I don't want this thing in my house anymore, someone
please take it. Yes yes, get it the hell away from me!
$400 and it's yours.

I can't deal with this anymore.


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The Talk2 List LJ TALK

[shaun everiss]

hI.
i HEARD ABOUT THIS LJ TALK THING ON LOADS OF YOUR LIVE JOURNALS, MY QUESTION, 
WHAT IS THIS EXODIS AND WHERE DO YOU GET IT?
i UNDERSTAND ITS A CLIENT BUT i DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GET IT.

The Talk2 List pdaudio

[shaun everiss]

Hi, when does pdaudio stream start?

The Talk2 List remote system

[shaun everiss]

Hi.
Is there any way I can connect with computers remotely, ie my laptop with my 
desktop or my system with a friends pc?
I would really want to do this.