Re[2]: messages not sending
RG I have a problem where I cannot send mssgs even though I have RG them queued in the outbox. AM Go to the account menu and select 'View account log', .. There is nothing there... Why some messages send while others do not is beyond me. It is not the SMTP server 'cause (for some reason) some messages do send w/o a problem! MDP It sounds like an addressing problem to me. If a message does not MDP have a proper recipient, TB will not try to send it. I _FOUND_ the problem! OK, why do messages prepared as HTML not send? If I choose either of the HTML message formats from the OPTIONS menu the message will not send! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RESENDing an email
Hello Bat Team, me again! How does one RESEND an email? I wanted to and the only way I've done it so far is to move a message already sent to the outbox and resend it, but now the sent items folder has only one instance of that email as having been sent! Thx, RG Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: messages not sending
On Monday, 22 September 2003, rich gregory wrote: rg I _FOUND_ the problem! OK, why do messages prepared as HTML not rg send? I haven't been following this thread, and I don't keep old messages, so this may have been covered and I missed it. Are you sure these messages are not being sent? Yesterday, for the first time, I sent an HTML message with TB!. The message was sent (I received a reply), but this morning I found the message I sent sitting in the Outbox as a saved draft. I know never saved it as a draft, and when I looked, I found there was also an identical copy in the Sent box. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
config files?
Hi, Due to time and space issues, I was unable to do an official backup of my mail folders/files. I have installed a new hard drive, with the old drive as a slave. Copying over the folders for each account seems to have worked ok but I get the occasional error stating that it can't find C:\Program Files\The Bat!...etc, etc. I know WHY I'm getting this error (my new hard drive was created with G:\ instead of the old C:\). Which flat file can I edit to tell it to look in G instead of C. -- Regards, Matt Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blocking Bat mail
Friday, September 19, 2003, 1:45:56 AM, Deborah wrote: DW The Ritlabs page on TB as a spam-tool appears to have disappeared - DW anyone know where it might now be found? Internet Archive has a copy here Deborah: http://web.archive.org/web/20021125141407/http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RESENDing an email
Hello rich, Monday, September 22, 2003, 09:18, you wrote: rg Hello Bat Team, me again! rg How does one RESEND an email? I wanted to and the only way rg I've done it so far is to move a message already sent to the rg outbox and resend it, but now the sent items folder has only one rg instance of that email as having been sent! Right click on the message in the message panel and select Copy to folder -- Best regards, Mogens --- Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 --- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:Selective download filters
Hello Douglas, Monday, September 22, 2003, 7:06:50 AM, you wrote: I link all accounts to the same text file, which I continue to lengthen whenever new Spam mongers are found. This is much easier that adding strings to each and every separate account. could you maybe share this file with me? I am going along the same line, and am always interested in catch-phrases :-) -- Regards, Jurgen If the early bird gets the worm, then what incentive do worms have to wake up early? Death? Using The Bat! v2.00.6 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RESENDing an email
Hello rich, How does one RESEND an email? Select your message in whatever folder it is and then select Message/Re-send or ShiftF6. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: config files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Matt, On 22 September 2003, 23:30 -0700 (22/09/200307:30 local time) Matt Thoene [MT] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MT Due to time and space issues, I was unable to do an official backup of MT my mail folders/files. I have installed a new hard drive, with the old MT drive as a slave. Copying over the folders for each account seems to MT have worked ok but I get the occasional error stating that it can't MT find C:\Program Files\The Bat!...etc, etc. I know WHY I'm getting this MT error (my new hard drive was created with G:\ instead of the old MT C:\). Which flat file can I edit to tell it to look in G instead MT of C. There's two or three steps to backing up TB! The program files, the registry entries, and your mail folders if there not located with the program. That's HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT and C:\Program Files\The Bat! You didn't say if you've reinstalled TB! and then copied the mail folders across. Or if you copied the program and registry and left the mail folders because of space limitations. Anyway, the settings you refer to are not in a flat file. They're in the registry. MT -- MT Regards, MT Matt BTW, your signature is missing a space after the two dashes. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP26o7Fv+PP8p0/caEQI+FwCfTXe2TYdGAPW6Q3y3MN3TXEBrHsUAn3F/ G9cu8zEBvyP/Eef7Vsr/aCtk =uJ6l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 2:14:38 PM, Pixie wrote: P I don't even try to read it usually. Even when I don't try and read it it makes me feel yuck just by seeing the movement scrolling... is daft to have to take Kwells to be able to read my e-mail! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: messages not sending
rg I _FOUND_ the problem! OK, why do messages prepared as HTML not rg send? T Are you sure these messages are not being sent? T Yesterday, for the first time, I sent an HTML message with TB!. The T message was sent (I received a reply), but this morning I found the T message I sent sitting in the Outbox as a saved draft. In my case the emails are NOT being sent if they are composed with any HTML creation option selected. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: RESENDing an email
How does one RESEND an email? M Select your message in whatever folder it is and then select M Message/Re-send or ShiftF6. I just tested that and very bad... It resends w/o giving one the chance to re-edit it!!! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
check ALL as a default
I check mail w/ F2, I check ALL w/ Alt-F2. Can I make the default check operation (F2) check all for me? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editing mail
rich gregory wrote: How does one edit received e-mail mssgs? Do you mean changing message content and subject line? As far as I know, this isn't possible. The ability to change the subject line is a pretty frequent feature request. This is probably the only good thing I can say about Outlook e-mail: you can change the subject line very easily, to assist filing. Stefan (TheBat! developer) suggested I use Memos and turn on the memo column. While not as quick and easy as just changing the subject line, it does work almost as well. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hi Thomas, On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, at 23:57:34 [GMT+0700] (which was Mon, 2:57:34 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Unfortunately, in the archives you cannot search by message-ID. This is the message in which Stefan raised hope for a new version coming out next week: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg31966.html Thanks for the link. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Veni Vidi Visa: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: check ALL as a default
Hello rich, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:37:31 -0400 GMT (22/09/2003, 16:37 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: I check mail w/ F2, I check ALL w/ Alt-F2. Can I make the default check operation (F2) check all for me? Yes. View / Edit shortcuts. Alas, it doesn't work over here. Navigating to these shortcuts via the main menu, they are greyed out. Clicking on them anyway reveals This shortcut is used by a pop-up menu. They cannot be changed here. OK, the last pop-up menu in the list also has these same shortcuts. Also greyed out, hm. Clicking on one of them reveals This shortcut is used by a main menu. It cannot be changed here. Copyright in Redmond/Moldavia? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. George Best (Englische Nationalmannschaft 1966): Ich habe viel von meinem Geld fuer Alkohol, Weiber und schnelle Autos ausgegeben. Den Rest habe ich einfach verprasst. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editing mail
Hallo rich, On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:52:08 -0400GMT (22-9-03, 1:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: rg How does one edit received e-mail mssgs? See my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to John Philips that I sent yesterday. In case you haven't stored yesterday's message on your computer, you could check the list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg62924.html -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RESENDing an email
Hello rich, I just tested that and very bad... Yes, TB is no good. You should change to OE, that's a nice piece of software ;-) It resends w/o giving one the chance to re-edit it!!! You asked how to re-send. If you want to edit first, do a Message/Re-direct (Ctrl+F6) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: messages not sending
Hi Rich, @22-Sep-2003, 05:22 -0400 (10:22 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Tim: T Are you sure these messages are not being sent? ... RG In my case the emails are NOT being sent if they are composed RG with any HTML creation option selected. I have several HTML only messages with no problem. I recommend that you download 2.00.6 (the latest build) and see if it's a known and fixed issue. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat! - MyGate posting problem
Hi Bat! Fans, Trying to post to a ng. MyGate came back with error message (similar to) Posting failed - server suspiciously refused to accept Any clues on this (not cross posting). Interested in the word suspiciously. I have replied in this and other ngs quite often before, but this is my first post to any ng using MyGate. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 If you're not the solution, you're the precipitate. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dispatcher playing peek-a-boo
Hi T'Buddlers, I have this friend who is using v2.00.6 and every once-in-a-while the dispatcher window pops up on him. He isn't hitting any hotkeys to make this happen. Neither of his two accounts is configured to use the dispatcher on mail checks. It's not happening on every mail check. Does anyone have any suggestions about what may be going on there? I'm all out of ideas, me. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RESENDing an email
Hello rich! On Monday, September 22, 2003, 4:26 AM, you wrote: How does one RESEND an email? M Select your message in whatever folder it is and then select M Message/Re-send or ShiftF6. r I just tested that and very bad... It resends w/o giving one the r chance to re-edit it!!! Then have you tried the ReDirect arrow, with your Sent message open? You will have to fill in the To field again, but that's easy with CTRL-c and CTRL-v. But this method will let you edit before re-sending, either from Sent mail, the Outbox, or from within any other folder (if you're filtering Sent mail to the recipient's folder). Hope I have expressed myself clearly, here. :) Just another thought: it would help all of us if you would put a delimiter (-- ), that is hyphen, hyphen, space, enter, at the end of your messages, even if you're not signing them. That way we won't have to erase the Silverstones information when we reply. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Anne Monday, September 22, 2003, 2:32:27 AM, you wrote: A Even when I don't try and read it it makes me feel yuck just by A seeing the movement scrolling... is daft to have to take Kwells A to be able to read my e-mail! ;-) The most irritating thing I find about it is trying to decide where to actually put the damn thing. It always seems to get in the way. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi, Vishal wrote: The most irritating thing I find about it is trying to decide where to actually put the damn thing. It always seems to get in the way. I've placed it in the top right corner of the screen, just below the minimize/maximize/close buttons of the program window. There it almost never gets in the way of anything. :-) Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Antje Monday, September 22, 2003, 9:03:17 AM, you wrote: AL I've placed it in the top right corner of the screen, just below the AL minimize/maximize/close buttons of the program window. There it almost AL never gets in the way of anything. :-) just tried it..but this way you can't see any menus unless you make it really small! Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: config files?
On Monday, September 22, 2003 @ 12:46:45 AM [-0700], Martin Webster wrote: You didn't say if you've reinstalled TB! and then copied the mail folders across. Or if you copied the program and registry and left the mail folders because of space limitations. Anyway, the settings you refer to are not in a flat file. They're in the registry. This is what I did. I reinstalled Windows XP on a new hard drive, installed a new copy of TB, then copied the mail folders across from the old drive to the new drive. Before I copied over the folders, I was not getting these errors. After I copied them over, I started to see them. Ergo, it must be a line somewhere in the copied files. I don't see how that could be a registry issue... MT -- MT Regards, MT Matt BTW, your signature is missing a space after the two dashes. Sorry. Let's try the other option... - -- Matt Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
On Monday, September 22, 2003, 11:03:17 PM, Antje Lehmann wrote: I've placed it in the top right corner of the screen, just below the minimize/maximize/close buttons of the program window. There it almost never gets in the way of anything. :-) That's also where I've put it. But the secret really is to make sure it only comes up when strictly necessary. I get a couple of hundred or so emails a day, mainly from various lists. I have a broadband connection and TB checks for new mail every ten minutes: the ticker is set to ONLY announce emails personally addressed to me - that happens only a few times every day, and I read them immediately so the ticker's not really a problem but a solution (alerting me to urgent mails only). Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Open pgp version support
Hello Allie, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 11:47:20 PM, you wrote: However, it seems to be available at www.pgpi.com Yes it is available from www.pgpi.com I downloaded it, but after installing it and selecting the built-in support for v8.x in The Bat!, I could not get it to encrypt any mail. So I have reverted to v6.5.8ckt which works (apart from saying it is v6.5i in sent mail). It was very late when I tried it so maybe it was just me? -- Best regards, Barry - Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Subject Flag
I don't know about others here, but for a week and a half I've been inundated with Swen.A messages, and there's no respite in sight. Trying to avoid changing e-mail addresses for newsgroups and mailing lists, I've been slogging through the messages and picking out the few good ones from the hundreds of bad ones. In that effort, it helps much when mailing list messages have a subject line that begins with [ML topic], such as [proxomitron], [timematters], etc. Is there any chance that the various TB! lists could adopt something similar? Is there a reason not to, other than the obvious one of utilizing valuable subject line real estate? -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Günter Monday, September 22, 2003, 10:31:28 AM, you wrote: GM the ticker is set to ONLY announce emails personally addressed to me How exactly do you do this? do you have all personally addressed mails in one folder? Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject Flag
Hi Joseph, @22-Sep-2003, 09:49 -0500 (15:49 UK time) Joseph N. [JN] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB: JN ... it helps much when mailing list messages have a subject line JN that begins with [ML topic], such as [proxomitron], JN [timematters], etc. Is there any chance that the various TB! JN lists could adopt something similar? No, there is not. JN Is there a reason not to, other than the obvious one of JN utilizing valuable subject line real estate? Yes - that there's no reason *to* do it. All UDL messages are clearly identified by Reply-to: headers, List-ID headers and many others. A simple filter to move list messages to a folder or colour code them will make your task easy without resorting to a solution that will annoy almost every other reader by adding the (already long ago rejected) subject tagging. As for Swen.A - every one of those messages sits in my quarantine folder, having been easily identified by my AVG plug-in. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subject Flag
Hello Joseph, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:49:14 -0500 GMT (22/09/2003, 21:49 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: I don't know about others here, but for a week and a half I've been inundated with Swen.A messages, and there's no respite in sight. Trying to avoid changing e-mail addresses for newsgroups and mailing lists, I've been slogging through the messages and picking out the few good ones from the hundreds of bad ones. This is how I deal with that plague: I have a seperate address for PM, and that one does hardly get any spam, and it hasn't received Swen (yet?). The addresses for NGs and MLs are set to not download message over 50KB but delete them right on the server (Account / Properties / Mail Management). If you are on lists with large attachments, this won't work for you, though. In that effort, it helps much when mailing list messages have a subject line that begins with [ML topic], such as [proxomitron], [timematters], etc. If you are talking about positive identification for good mails, I don't know how you could set TB to kill everything right on the server that does *not* contain the trigger strings, so maybe you are using incoming filters. You can easily filter on the Reply-To to identify list messages, the same way you would filter on the subject. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blocking Bat mail
Hi Anne, @22-Sep-2003, 08:13 Anne [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DW The Ritlabs page on TB as a spam-tool appears to have DW disappeared - anyone know where it might now be found? A Internet Archive has a copy here Deborah: A http://web.archive.org/web/20021125141407/http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html I have now re-instated the original version of this page on the FAQ website. Once RIT provide a URL for the official version, I will switch back to the referral page that was there before. See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade Questions
Hi Scott, on Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:58:39 -0500GMT (22.09.03, 07:58 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : S 1) Does the Student pricing infer that its an educational discount so us S Educational Staff folk can use it also??? I would interpret it so, yes. S 2) Does V2 come with a way to check multiple accounts (I have about 25) one at a S time and not all at once?? No, if you check all, The Bat! will check all at once. S 3) Does V2 have a way to make a global rule for multiple accounts so that I do S not have to go to each account and make the exact same rule over and over??? S (Even with the copy command its not all that fun and trying to remember it for S each new account does not always happen) I'm not sure, but I think you'll have to cp to each account. S 4) Will I have to go turn OFF any default html viewing settings?? (yep, I am one S of the html email haters) As I remember, no, but even if, it's an easy task. :-) S Great program!! Looking forward to the upgrade! I can assure you, it is not worse than 1.62r, you'll like it! ;-) -- Cheers Peter Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. James Thurber Winamp currently playing: Macy Gray - Sweet Baby Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dispatcher playing peek-a-boo
* Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have this friend who is using v2.00.6 and every once-in-a-while the dispatcher window pops up on him. He isn't hitting any hotkeys to make this happen. Neither of his two accounts is configured to use the dispatcher on mail checks. Account - Properties - Mail management - Mail Dispatcher - [ ] Invoke automatically at each mail check It's not happening on every mail check. Maybe because he didn't activate [ ] Show all messages left on the server ? -- Carsten pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade Questions
Hello Scott, Monday, September 22, 2003, 6:58:39 AM, you wrote: S 2) Does V2 come with a way to check multiple accounts (I have about 25) one at a S time and not all at once?? Yes. Accounts, Properties, Options, Ignore Check all Accounts Requests -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: editing mail
RO In case you haven't stored yesterday's message on your RO computer, you could check the list archive: RO http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ For instance, I'd edit the full original email that the above snippet came from and rename it to: Bat archive link In fact this is what I am going to do! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: editing mail
RG How does one edit received e-mail mssgs? kg Do you mean changing message content and subject line? As far as kg I know, this isn't possible. The ability to change the subject kg line is a pretty frequent feature request. This is probably the kg only good thing I can say about Outlook e-mail: you can change the kg subject line very easily, to assist filing. kg Stefan (TheBat! developer) suggested I use Memos and turn on the kg memo column. While not as quick and easy as just changing the kg subject line... snip, snip ... ROUnless you consider moving the message to the Oubox, editing it and moving it to the correct folder to be a workable solution. Yes, changing the content subject line. I used this Eudora feature quite extensively as I need to print new email and do not want to waste 20 extra sheets of paper a day just Hotmail ads. Also, our email server adds a string to the subject line that, once read, is always deleted. Moving it to the Outbox, editing, then filing new email will be cumbersome, but I'll try it. I am still evaluating TB so I can get users here to a common platform away from Eudora Pegasus and this may be a deal breaker. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:check ALL as a default
Hi Melissa, I've set the Check mail for all to the single F3 key. This makes it really simple for me Odd. F3 does nothing from my keyboard yet, from the dropdown menu (next to the 'get new mail' icon), F3 is there and the command works! -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dispatcher playing peek-a-boo
Hi Carsten, @22-Sep-2003, 18:44 +0200 (17:44 UK time) Carsten Thönges said: He isn't hitting any hotkeys to make this happen. Neither of his two accounts is configured to use the dispatcher on mail checks. Account - Properties - Mail management - Mail Dispatcher - [ ] Invoke automatically at each mail check Not turned on for either account (first thing I told him to turn off). Trust me - this is nothing obvious. I just wondered if anyone else had seen it happening. I haven't. It's not happening on every mail check. Maybe because he didn't activate [ ] Show all messages left on the server I'll ask! -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hello tbudl list, I notice that some people on this list have (e.g X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) - missing out the educational, business, personal etc license type. How is this done? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hallo Andrew, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:15:22 +0100GMT (22-9-03, 19:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AH I notice that some people on this list have (e.g X-Mailer: The Bat! AH (v2.00.6) - missing out the educational, business, personal etc AH license type. How is this done? It's just what my TB creates. I've done nothing to manipulate it. Of course I could've done something like that with a script in Mailtraq my mail server. Another option would be to do that with X-Ray, an smtp proxy, that's very popular on this list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering on empty messages
I frequently receive spam from these known spam sites: http://200.187.137.10 and http://200.187.137.3 The messages are never sent from these adresses but they all have in common that they only contain a html attachment that looks something like this: htmlbodya href=http://200.187.137.10/microsoft/?8965812503690901;img border=0 src=http://200.187.137.10/microsoft/update.php;/body/html Is is possible to filter on the content of the html part? -- Regards, Mogens Using The Bat! Version 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hi Andrew, on Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:15:22 +0100GMT (22.09.03, 19:15 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AH I notice that some people on this list have (e.g X-Mailer: The Bat! AH (v2.00.6) - missing out the educational, business, personal etc AH license type. How is this done? I still use X-ray for it (www.xrayapp.com), but there is a way now in The Bat! herself to edit some X-headers. I haven't yet looked for those myself. :-) -- Cheers Peter My computer never says, Excellent command or file name... Winamp currently playing: Clark Hutchinson - Improvisation On An Indian Scale Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering on empty messages
Hello Mogens, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:39:03 +0200 GMT (23/09/2003, 00:39 +0700 GMT), Mogens Holst wrote: Is is possible to filter on the content of the html part? AFAIK it is not possible to filter on the contents of any attachments - not even on thier names. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Es war eine machtvolle Demonstration. Der Marktplatz war voller Menschen. In den Nebenstrassen pflanzten sich Maenner und Frauen fort. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account macro not working
MAU- Sunday, September 21, 2003, 1:10:08 PM, you wrote: All that's quite true, but it *is* a fact that the embedded space isn't causing the problem, which is what I proved by using the same version. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hello Roelof, Monday, September 22, 2003, 6:28:48 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Andrew, RO On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:15:22 +0100GMT (22-9-03, 19:15 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: AH I notice that some people on this list have (e.g X-Mailer: The Bat! AH (v2.00.6) - missing out the educational, business, personal etc AH license type. How is this done? RO It's just what my TB creates. I've done nothing to manipulate it. Ok, which license type do you have? Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account macro not working
Good evening Mark, It was foretold that on 22-9-2003 @ 10:53:05 GMT-0700 (which was 19:53:05 where I live) Mark Wieder would mumble: snipped a bit MW All that's quite true, but it *is* a fact that the embedded space MW isn't causing the problem, which is what I proved by using the same MW version. Indeed and that's why i find it strange. V2 at the moment has to much bugs in it at the moment for me to upgrade. And i found the beta version more bug free then the official 1.62. But hey, it isn't the end of the world ;-) -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 and using the best browser: Opera. Variety is the soul of pleasure. - Aphra Behn Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment icon not displayed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, Am I missing something? Or should the attachment icon always be visible when a file is attached to a message? The following screen shot shows 9 messages (my Quarantine folder), which all have W32/Gibe-F attached. Yet only 4 display the attachment icon. Is this a bug? Is it already known? - -- Best regards, Martin Webster http://www.martinwebster.info/ The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP29AJFv+PP8p0/caEQL6VgCbBmwk+SfMrUl5yeRBzKyHmBIsQWoAoImr /pnWnGbq++42VxR2oebBZ1Cy =qHnu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hello ETM, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:44:51 -0400 GMT (23/09/2003, 01:44 +0700 GMT), ETM wrote: I would be very interested in totally removing my header mailer identification. [...] Does anyone know if there are options within TB! to get rid of that header line? I now there is no such option. I ran Xray for while for just that purpose, but decided that if someone cannot receive my mail due to his under-educated postmaster, he would have to take it up with him. No Xray on my computer any more. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My mother wants grandchildren, so I said, Mom, go for it! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
I now there is no such option. I ran Xray for while for just that purpose, but decided that if someone cannot receive my mail due to his under-educated postmaster, he would have to take it up with him. No Xray on my computer any more. I believe the suggestion was the server might accept TB! mail when something freezes over. In the meantime they feel quite self righteous in refusing a spammer's mail program. It's pathetic to be stuck between a rock and a hard place because of all-around arrogant ignorance and not a hint of budging though their subscriber has done a yeoman's job of refuting their claims. I remain totally frustrated and worry that this is just the tip of the iceberg as more and more servers attempt to clamp down on spam. Elaine Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hi ETM, on Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:44:51 -0400GMT (22.09.03, 20:44 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I still use X-ray for it (www.xrayapp.com), but there is a way now in The Bat! herself to edit some X-headers. I haven't yet looked for those myself. :-) E I am using K9 which works fine for spam, so while xray E sounds good, I think it is more than I want to handle on top E of the K9 filtering, but I would be very interested in E totally removing my header mailer identification. You can do this with X-ray too. And it doesn't interfere with K9 because it is related to outgoing (SMTP) traffic, whereas K9 observes the incoming (POP3) route. :-) -- Cheers Peter What is a free gift ? Aren't all gifts free? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: check ALL as a default
Melissa Reese wrote: Alt-F2 always seemed to me such a clumsy shortcut. Yes, but does your mapping of F3 work when not focused on TheBat? One of the nice things about the Alt-F2 shortcut is that TB can be minimized and it will still check all accounts. It's not as clumsy for me, I guess - I set up an Alt-` key to toggle TB focus (minimize/maximize). It's near the F2 key, and the tilde symbol on that key reminds me of a bat ;) -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade Questions
On Monday, September 22, 2003, Scott wrote... 1) Does the Student pricing infer that its an educational discount so us Educational Staff folk can use it also??? (hate to sound cheap but I just totaled my car and I am scrimping every penny I can) This might really be a question for the RitLab sales staff, but from what I've noticed, I believe it does include education staff, but I'm not sure if they've changed that, they don't seem to document that side of things too well. 2) Does V2 come with a way to check multiple accounts (I have about 25) one at a time and not all at once?? Only by selecting individual accounts, and clicking the Get new Mail instead of the Check All option. That could take some time with 25 accounts ;) 3) Does V2 have a way to make a global rule for multiple accounts so that I do not have to go to each account and make the exact same rule over and over??? (Even with the copy command its not all that fun and trying to remember it for each new account does not always happen) Unfortunately not, but certainly a nice feature request, and I dare say something requested a fair few times. 4) Will I have to go turn OFF any default html viewing settings?? (yep, I am one of the html email haters) I cannot remember the default as I changed it once, and not had to change it since. Even if you do have to change it, it's a one time change, and you should be done. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) One good turn gets all the blankets. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:check ALL as a default
Hi Melissa, Get new mail (for only the account with focus in the folder tree) is set to F2. Did you previously edit that one to F3? Nope. F2 does check the current account. F3 does diddly squat except when invoked from the dropdown menu. I've found by experimenting though that F11 *does* work. Strange. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, On 22 September 2003, 11:16 -0500 (17:16 local time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip 2) Does V2 come with a way to check multiple accounts (I have about 25) one at a time and not all at once?? JA Only by selecting individual accounts, and clicking the Get new Mail JA instead of the Check All option. That could take some time with 25 JA accounts ;) Use Alt-F2 to check all accounts and F2 to check selected account (alas this doesn't seem to work with folders associated with an account). snip 4) Will I have to go turn OFF any default html viewing settings?? (yep, I am one of the html email haters) JA I cannot remember the default as I changed it once, and not had to JA change it since. Even if you do have to change it, it's a one time JA change, and you should be done. The default setting is for plain text. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP29h6lv+PP8p0/caEQKhbACgwuP7NXo+JWxTnCZ2UfcJNAYIlX0AoKRQ FP9WyQoXZ3hWJE97e9+nH8NQ =He+P -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding a memo to message
How do I write a memo for a received message? (This was mentioned in the list earlier as an alternative to editing the message subject.) I've added the memo column but not sure what to do next. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/22/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello P.Johnson, How do I write a memo for a received message? Select View/Memo Auto-View or hit Shift+Ctrl+I, then write memo and *save* it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp PLAYING: Joe Sample - Seven Years of Good Luck (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download / filter
Hello Allie other TB! list members following this thread, On Thursday, September 19, 2002 Allie wrote and said in response to Marco: M One of the really good features of The Bat is in my opinion the M selective download. Especially when using a dial-up connection, M you don't have to spend telephone costs on downloading spam. ACM You spend a lot of telephone cost initially downloading the ACM headers of all messages for the selective download filters to ACM process the message headers and then downloading the entire ACM messages again. This would be profitable in the end only if ACM you're receiving a large amount of spam in proportion to ACM legitimate mail. Sorry, Allie; but saying This would be profitable in the end only if is not the only scenario. I use it to avoid viruses as well as a trigger for following up on important mail. I don't want to be checking my high number of mailbox directories and don't use the ticker for the same reason: The fact is, most of my mail is never read. M As I upgraded to ADSL now, I'd like to see what exactly is not M downloaded, so I want to change my selective download filter into M a normal filter that puts the stuff in a certain folder. Including viruses? M Is there a way to use the signal file, containing all the known M malicious mailers/domains, in a regular filter? Aside from the selective download Spam and virus txt file, my signal file is upgraded continuously and stored in my brain. ACM No. The regular filters cannot work with a string file. You'll have ACM to enter each string from the file as an alternative string in the ACM spam filter. You could also enter a few strings, copy and paste the ACM filter in your editor, look at the formatting of the few strings you ACM entered, add the rest of the strings in a similar format and then ACM copy and paste the filter back into TB!'s filter list. Sounds tedious. -- Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello MAU, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I write a memo for a received message? Select View/Memo Auto-View or hit Shift+Ctrl+I, then write memo and *save* it. Never had need to do that as yet but thought I'd try it to see exactly what happens - not a lot!! OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 1:34:54 AM, Vishal wrote: How exactly do you do this? do you have all personally addressed mails in one folder? By negative selection :-) Since there are folders and filters for just about everything else (mailing lists, regularly received newsletters etc), and all those folders are excluded from display on the ticker, only the personal mail (and one or two that slipped the net) appears. Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.00 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hallo Andrew, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:08:24 +0100GMT (22-9-03, 20:08 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO It's just what my TB creates. I've done nothing to manipulate it. AH Ok, which license type do you have? A single-computer license, at least that's what is says at: help - about -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding a memo to message
Miguel, P How do I write a memo for a received message? M Select View/Memo Auto-View or hit Shift+Ctrl+I, then write memo and M *save* it. Gracias Miguel! I couldn't see for looking. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/22/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, On 22 September 2003, 23:18 Richard Wakeford [RW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip RW OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message RW you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) Right-click on the columns and add the memo field. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP296X1v+PP8p0/caEQLJzQCg426ibavl1Gs3Xf76AanR35ILQBoAoLaj xDuAiyAp+7DI57BlZVLmQgc4 =F5v5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Richard, OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) Memos can be displayed as a column in the message list pane, in a separate window if you select Auto-View, and are one of the options for the scope of a search with the Search Tool. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp PLAYING: Michael Lington - Off The Hook (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Martin, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RW OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message RW you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) Right-click on the columns and add the memo field. Always something to learn about this programme. It's like a bottomless pit. Thanks, could be very useful. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, On 22 September 2003, 23:55 Richard Wakeford [RW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right-click on the columns and add the memo field. RW Always something to learn about this programme. It's like a bottomless RW pit. Thanks, could be very useful. I quite like Miguel's suggestion. I've selected Memo Auto-view and placed the floating window on the right hand side of the preview pane. Most messages wrap nicely at around 70 characters so there's plenty of room. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2+Aw1v+PP8p0/caEQINZgCghGobq3S3e0L2Bx2VcWS8DO+/JX8AmwaV cvj+a3vGQejTrLIxDL6Ak09i =UtIL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Martin, On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I quite like Miguel's suggestion. I've selected Memo Auto-view and placed the floating window on the right hand side of the preview pane. Most messages wrap nicely at around 70 characters so there's plenty of room. Another useful item but I'd prefer to have Memo in the columns because it shows all the messages with memos straight away rather than memos only showing up when the message is selected with the auto-view on the right hand side. Horses for courses really and nice to have so many choices. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hi Roelof, Monday, September 22, 2003, 6:33:08 PM, you wrote: RO It's just what my TB creates. I've done nothing to manipulate it. AH Ok, which license type do you have? A single-computer license, at least that's what is says at: help - about Take a look about four lines above that. Does it say Personal Edition there (or whatever version you have)? That's where mine is located. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download / filter
Douglas Hinds, [DH] wrote: DH I use it to avoid viruses as well as a trigger for following up on DH important mail. I don't want to be checking my high number of DH mailbox directories and don't use the ticker for the same reason: DH The fact is, most of my mail is never read. You seem to spend a lot of time screening mail that you won't read. Of course, if you get accustomed to doing this, it seems just fine and I guess this is where our opinions differ. With some filtering here, all important mail is filtered out either directly or indirectly. Not much of my mail comes from unknown sources. These are filtered to a particular folder. Spam goes to another folder and is viewed only occasionally. Viruses to another folder with the use of NOD32 and very occasionally looked in. I just find it perplexing that you consider using the dispatcher to look over all your mail is efficient. Just the act of repeatedly interacting with the dispatcher, no matter the duration is distracting and intrusive. If I thought it entirely subjective, I'd let the issue rest and say it's just a matter of taste. On a busy day, I'll entertain only those messages which are filtered to particular folders. I get a special sound notification for those. I safely ignore the rest. No scanning. No updating of spam filters. shrug :) So if there's no important mail, I just keep working. Never checking the dispatcher to screen mail. It's all done automatically. M As I upgraded to ADSL now, I'd like to see what exactly is not M downloaded, so I want to change my selective download filter into M a normal filter that puts the stuff in a certain folder. DH Including viruses? Why fear downloading viruses with TB!? If you were using Outlook I'd understand but with an application like TB!, this isn't really that great a concern. You could even use a plug-in that deletes infected messages or quarantines them if that made you more comfortable. M Is there a way to use the signal file, containing all the known M malicious mailers/domains, in a regular filter? DH Aside from the selective download Spam and virus txt file, my signal DH file is upgraded continuously and stored in my brain. Continuous maintenance ... work. Manually scanning all incoming mail with the dispatcher ... more work. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: config files?
Matt Thoene wrote: This is what I did. I reinstalled Windows XP on a new hard drive, installed a new copy of TB, then copied the mail folders across from the old drive to the new drive. Before I copied over the folders, I was not getting these errors. After I copied them over, I started to see them. Ergo, it must be a line somewhere in the copied files. I don't see how that could be a registry issue... Well, this is just a try it while standing on one foot this time shot in the dark, but it should only take you about 10 seconds. Go into Options - Preferences - System tab. Click Browse button after mail directory select your mail directory again. OK outta that. Close TB and bring it back up. Sounds crazy, I know, but worth a shot? BTW, your signature is missing a space after the two dashes. Sorry. Let's try the other option... - -- Matt Actually, its -- (no quotes) as in: dash-dash-space I had to fix mine, too, so don't feel bad :) TB strips out signatures based on this fairly standard sig delimiter. This is actually a REALLY nice feature - especially when replying to someone with a long sig (although I tend to use the F4 reply option: selecting the text I want to reply to and hitting F4). -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editing mail
Monday, September 22, 2003, rich gregory wrote: Yes, changing the content subject line. I used this Eudora feature quite extensively as I need to print new email and do not want to waste 20 extra sheets of paper a day just Hotmail ads. You should be able to change TB's print template so that it does it for you. -- Urban A fossil is an extinct animal. The older it is, the more extinct it is. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download filters
Hello Jurgen other TB! list members following this thread, On Monday, September 22, 2003 Jurgen responded to my saying the following: I link all accounts to the same text file, which I continue to lengthen whenever new Spam mongers are found. This is much easier that adding strings to each and every separate account. JH could you maybe share this file with me? I am going along the JH same line, and am always interested in catch-phrases :-) Sure - I assume you want it sent directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I probably have a couple of versions, since I haven't been transferring the strings added to the desktop computer's text file to the laptop and vice versa, and I can't recall if I added the strings that were put in each account's filter manager before deciding to do a .txt file But the main thing I wanted to say is that my most important filtering device is my eyeball, and I can spot extraneous unexpected mail rather quickly. One of the major clues is the size column, sine no virus is going to come in with a size like these messages have. For instance: I just manually killed two of Microsoft Patch viruses on the server, one of which said error message. It's also easy to notice that the one that said Microsoft didn't in fact come from Microsoft, as the headers showed. If the headers were correct, a friend of mine in Guadalajara has an infected computer, so I'll drop him a note to let him know. The Spam file contains the usual words like mortgage, loan, viagra, and sex as well as the domains these things came from, but I can send it on if you really think it will do you any good. The beauty of the Mail Dispatcher is the fact that I can review and rectify all that comes in, so that some things marked for deletion are downloaded, and some things marked for downloading are deleted. In general however, the selective download filter and Spam.txt file save me some time. This is why I hesitate to use a service that figures out these things for me. I want to use my own judgement in real time. For instance, I just downloaded one of those things from Africa asking for help getting X millions of dollars out of the country, just because it was so ingeniously written. (Obviously, I have no intention on following through on that though, and I get lots of these scams that are killed on the server). -- Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download filters
Jurgen, I sent the following to TBUDL twice earlier and yet it hasn't been posted. I wonder why. Two other posts I sent were posted, so I'm not being blocked out. Maybe if you redirect it, it will go through. Douglas Hello Jurgen other TB! list members following this thread, On Monday, September 22, 2003 Jurgen responded to my saying the following: I link all accounts to the same text file, which I continue to lengthen whenever new Spam mongers are found. This is much easier that adding strings to each and every separate account. JH could you maybe share this file with me? I am going along the JH same line, and am always interested in catch-phrases :-) Sure - I assume you want it sent directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I probably have a couple of versions, since I haven't been transferring the strings added to the desktop computer's text file to the laptop and vice versa, and I can't recall if I added the strings that were put in each account's filter manager before deciding to do a .txt file But the main thing I wanted to say is that my most important filtering device is my eyeball, and I can spot extraneous unexpected mail rather quickly. One of the major clues is the size column, sine no virus is going to come in with a size like these messages have. For instance: I just manually killed two of Microsoft Patch viruses on the server, one of which said error message. It's also easy to notice that the one that said Microsoft didn't in fact come from Microsoft, as the headers showed. If the headers were correct, a friend of mine in Guadalajara has an infected computer, so I'll drop him a note to let him know. The Spam file contains the usual words like mortgage, loan, viagra, and sex as well as the domains these things came from, but I can send it on if you really think it will do you any good. The beauty of the Mail Dispatcher is the fact that I can review and rectify all that comes in, so that some things marked for deletion are downloaded, and some things marked for downloading are deleted. In general however, the selective download filter and Spam.txt file save me some time. This is why I hesitate to use a service that figures out these things for me. I want to use my own judgement in real time. For instance, I just downloaded one of those things from Africa asking for help getting X millions of dollars out of the country, just because it was so ingeniously written. (Obviously, I have no intention on following through on that though, and I get lots of these scams that are killed on the server). -- Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hello ETM, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:17:59 -0400 GMT (23/09/2003, 02:17 +0700 GMT), ETM wrote: I remain totally frustrated and worry that this is just the tip of the iceberg as more and more servers attempt to clamp down on spam. It's good idea to clamp down on spam, but filtering on the X-Mailer is not. Give them http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html and mention that if they want to identify spam by X-Mailer, they'd get a lot more hits for Outlook Express than *any* other mailer. So they'd better block that one. Also, send a message to their superiors and suggest that they spend some money to educate their people, or rather employ people who know their stuff to begin with. Or, send the details of the the ISP with the under-educated staff to this list, and we'll find out who the president is and suggest in an appropriate way that he fire his postmaster. Wouldn't be the first time we did it. (I am annoyed with people who call themselves postmasters but don't know squat about the internet. Really.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be What is Hell? Come early and listen to the choir practice. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blocking Bat mail
Hello Marck, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:58:39 +0100 GMT (22/09/2003, 22:58 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html And why oh why do I get a 404? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. - THE HOTEL HAS BOWLING ALLEYS, TENNIS COURTS, COMFORTABLE BEDS, AND OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITIES. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selective download / filter
Hello Allie other TB! list members following this thread, On Monday, September 22, 2003 Allie wrote the following post: DH I use it to avoid viruses as well as a trigger for following up DH on important mail. I don't want to be checking my high number DH of mailbox directories and don't use the ticker for the same DH reason: The fact is, most of my mail is never read. AM You seem to spend a lot of time screening mail Not at all. I've gotten quite good at spotting both things I want and things I don't, in a flash. AM that you won't read. Whether I read it or not depends on what I see on the Mail Dispatcher. That saves me a lot of time. AM Of course, if you get accustomed to doing this, it seems just AM fine and I guess this is where our opinions differ. I think we both can live with that. Generally though, I do put a lot of stock in what you post. You're very consistent but in this case, other valid mind sets also exists. AM With some filtering here, all important mail is filtered out AM either directly or indirectly. Not much of my mail comes from AM unknown sources. These are filtered to a particular folder. I'd rather make my decisions on the fly (I find it more flexible), be aware of what's coming in before it gets distributed and kill spam and viruses on the server. AM Spam goes to another folder and is viewed only occasionally. AM Viruses to another folder with the use of NOD32 and very AM occasionally looked in. You are obviously a very organized and orderly person. Perhaps your profession makes you more protocol oriented though. AM I just find it perplexing that you consider using the dispatcher AM to look over all your mail is efficient. I can assure you that my way of working with email is in no way motived by a desire to perplex you. You use the ticker, I use the mail dispatcher. Live and let live. AM Just the act of repeatedly interacting with the dispatcher, no AM matter the duration is distracting and intrusive. I actually enjoy it. And I download almost all my mail manually, spontaneously. AM If I thought it entirely subjective, I'd let the issue rest and AM say it's just a matter of taste. AM On a busy day, I'll entertain only those messages which are AM filtered to particular folders. I get a special sound AM notification for those. I safely ignore the rest. No scanning. You are depending on the notification system you constructed, I am looking at what's coming in as it's happening, which provides more specific information. AM No updating of spam filters. Actually, I rarely have to do that anymore and when I do, I just leave the Spam.txt file open on the desktop for a while. AM shrug :) So if there's no important mail, I just keep working. AM Never checking the dispatcher to screen mail. It's all done AM automatically. I understand that. It's OK, Allie. M As I upgraded to ADSL now, I'd like to see what exactly is not M downloaded, so I want to change my selective download filter M into a normal filter that puts the stuff in a certain M folder. DH Including viruses? AM Why fear downloading viruses with TB!? If you were using Outlook AM I'd understand but with an application like TB!, this isn't AM really that great a concern. You could even use a plug-in that AM deletes infected messages or quarantines them if that made you AM more comfortable. I have that. But it makes me give more time and attention to following up on that. I don't want them on my computer, although we have a mutual friend that collects them. M Is there a way to use the signal file, containing all the M known malicious mailers/domains, in a regular filter? DH Aside from the selective download Spam and virus txt file, my DH signal file is upgraded continuously and stored in my brain. AM Continuous maintenance ... work. I eat rather well and my brain is updated automatically. AM Manually scanning all incoming mail with the dispatcher ... more AM work. That way when I open a folder, I already know what I'm looking for. Unless there's something there I know want to see, the folders stay shut. Different strokes by different folks. -- Hasta la vista, Allie. Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
