Re: IMAP - another specific query

2004-07-08 Thread Allie Martin
Marten Gallagher, [MG] wrote: > The reason for possibly changing to IMAP is: > ISP is prepared to install IMAP. > and > I can then do all the manipulation wheh I am (frequently) away from > the office and the main machine. > But.. as I said - I cannot afford screw ups becasue IMAP in the event

Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...

2004-07-07 Thread Allie Martin
Subscriber2list, [S] wrote: > Anyway, the above description of your steps worked great; my > question is ... how does one back-out of the end result, i.e., > return to where ALL messages are listed again versus just the > messages containing the particular item that resulted from following > your

Re: IMAP - another specific query

2004-07-07 Thread Allie Martin
Kevin Amazon, [KA] wrote: > The key issues with regards to IMAP are: I wanted to add a couple other lacking features that are very useful: a) selective download message text without attachments on a per message basis. One can then view the message body over a slow connection without having to do

Re: IMAP - another specific query

2004-07-07 Thread Allie Martin
Marten Gallagher, [MG] wrote: >> If you're referring to our little exchange a while back... > Weell sort of!! :-)) I looked at all your other exchanges and couldn't see where else you could have considered yourself treated a little harshly. :) > I wasn't being terribly serious and I und

Re: IMAP - another specific query

2004-07-07 Thread Allie Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What does the <*> mean next to a folder? It means that the preceeding number represents messages that are on the server but which have not yet been sync'd locally. > Why does the number of mails in a folder keep changing up and down - > 2 then 0 then 2 then 0. This wi

Re: The buttons 'previous' and 'next'

2004-07-07 Thread Allie Martin
Britt Henrikson, [BH] wrote: > So I guess my original question remains unanswered. It's not a bug since I've never experienced or heard of anyone experience any buggy behaviour with regards to what you may be referring to in your original query. :) Usually it's just that how TB! works isn't full

Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Allie Martin
Plan9, [P] wrote: > Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must > edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys. > I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs to > be done. With each roguemoticon download, you get two files, i.e.

Re: The buttons 'previous' and 'next'

2004-07-06 Thread Allie Martin
Britt Henrikson, [BH] wrote: >> In my experience TB behaves the same in folders with identical >> settings. > What exactly do you mean by 'settings'? Column settings? They are > the same in every folder. Oh. This is likely the root of your problem. You're assuming all the folders are the same.

Re: POP3 then IMAP and back to POP3?

2004-07-03 Thread Allie Martin
Jack, [J] wrote: > I tried this at one point, trying to isolate a problem. I have three > accounts. I was able to switch two of them back without any problems. > The third one switched back but I now have to enter a password for it > every time I start TB. It's a real pain and no one here knew h

Re: IMAP query

2004-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
Marten Gallagher, [MG] wrote: > I understand exactly how IMAP works - I am a web designer and the > concept of local caching is not alien to me. > I simply was trying to get a handle on how it looks and feels in The > Bat. Hmmm. You're questions have been very general so I couldn't help but misu

Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising

2004-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: AM>> The answer to this sort of requirement lies with IMAP. Is the IMAP AM>> protocol available to you? If not, then I think we'll just have to AM>> find a way of shoehorning POP3 into working that way for you. > Here is how we do it with POP3 only... Now that's a nea

Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising

2004-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I really need some practical advice on this whole business of > synchronising two copies of The Bat! The answer to this sort of requirement lies with IMAP. Is the IMAP protocol available to you? If not, then I think we'll just have to find a way of shoehorning POP3 int

Re: IMAP query

2004-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're asking pretty basic information here that isn't TB! specific. I just entered 'What is IMAP' in Google and got some nice links that explains IMAP and how it works. Starting with some of those links should have you getting well on your way with understanding how IMAP

Re: POP3 then IMAP and back to POP3?

2004-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
Marten Gallagher wrote: > If, when IMAP is running, can I change back and forth from IMAP to > POP3 mode for one or more accounts? No, you can't do this. You definitely can't change from POP to IMAP. I've tried this. You have to create a new account and make it IMAP from the outset. The protoco

Re: Alternative filters

2004-06-29 Thread Allie Martin
Adam wrote: AM>> Under the Rules Tab, define the string which must always match. AM>> Click the Add button and define one of the other strings that should AM>> also match. > This works very well. > But, say I don't click the Add button here to add the second string. > How does it think about the

Re: Alternative filters

2004-06-29 Thread Allie Martin
Adam wrote: > I was just experimenting a bit, and I am not certain I follow how to > interpret the Alternatives tab in the Sorting Office. This allows you to set OR strings to filter on. So the filter will execute if there's a match with the first defined string *OR* any strings defined in the

Re: The Bat migration problems

2004-06-29 Thread Allie Martin
Scott Garfinkle wrote: > For now it's OK -- fortunately, I still have the old .MSG files > available from pmmail, so I can delete the offending ones > (fortunately) and re-import them. That still leaves a rather > cumbersome process for when this happens in the future, though. > Sigh. I *really* w

Re: What is "New Thread Sorting"?

2004-06-28 Thread Allie Martin
Rick Friedman, [RF] wrote: > Well, the subject is my question. Under View->Message List Columns > there is a checkbox for "New Thread Sorting". What does this do? I > have some folders which are threaded by reference. How does "New > Thread Sorting" affect it? It will sort the threads according t

Re: The Bat migration problems

2004-06-28 Thread Allie Martin
Scott Garfinkle, [SG] wrote: > Is there a way to change the "created" date in a message? I moved > from pmmail to thebat and imported my messages. I used to sort by > "received" date/time, but the import process mangles that (any > suggestions for that, btw?). Now, I have several message that were

Re: Full-width message list view

2004-06-22 Thread Allie Martin
G. Minnerup, [GM] wrote: > This was introduced in the latest version, I believe, or maybe I > just didn't discover it earlier - but it suits me :-) Trouble is > every time I restart TB! the Message List window covers the entire > screen and I have to manually resize the display to bring the other

Re: What is Shift Alt F5 features named "Alternative forward" ?

2004-06-22 Thread Allie Martin
Wilwilwil, [W] wrote: > When I click right on an e-mail, in the special context menu, I can > find "Alternative Forward". What is this ? You can forward a message in two ways. - you can create a forward message and have the original message MIME attached. - you can create a forward message with

Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...

2004-06-20 Thread Allie Martin
Max Rydahl Andersen, [MRA] wrote: > If that is what it takes yes ;) My main wish is to say - "hmm...what > mails have I sent to Alexander Gladilin" and then just click on his > name and ask TB to answer that question - quickly! And without > requiring me to add a virtual folder manuallyit's ju

Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...

2004-06-20 Thread Allie Martin
Max Rydahl Andersen, [MRA] wrote: > A. Message Finder is "lying" > When searching for messages via "Message Finder" the status bar always > immediatly says "Search Finished. Found 0 messages" and after a few > seconds or more e.g. 100 results come in and the status bar still > states it has found

Re: TB! going well at present..

2004-06-19 Thread Allie Martin
Sl, [S] wrote: > 'Smiled when I saw this. AM doubtless had some stupid person in > mind: Me! ;-) You are the one who made me realize that one could run the empty folder command to empty what's locally stored in the cache. :) > BTW, TB! incl my IMAP account therein is going well at present:

Re: Problem with v2

2004-06-19 Thread Allie Martin
Simon Mikkelsen, [SM] wrote: > I have just solved my problem, which turned out to be 65000 tmp files > in a tmp folder I didn't knew existed. It was located at the path > c:\Documents and settings\\Locale settings\Temp\ > and the files was named bat*.tmp Did you recently import a lot of messages

Re: Delete on server

2004-06-19 Thread Allie Martin
Tony, [T] wrote: > Some misunderstanding here I think, Allie :D > As long as no messages are bounced because your mailbox is full there > is not much difference if messages get marked deleted or really get > deleted. > What I was trying to say that it can cause problems for some users > with a ful

Re: First AV

2004-06-19 Thread Allie Martin
Simon Elliott, [SE] wrote: > I've been using TB! for about 6 weeks now and just had my first AV. ... > a) Should I be worried by this? Not really. They're not known to make you lose mail. :) They can be annoyances though. > B) Should I send an error report to someone? You could check bugtraq t

Re: Delete on server

2004-06-19 Thread Allie Martin
Tony, [T] wrote: AM>> This is how it has always worked. The messages are marked for AM>> deletion and are then deleted on the next mailcheck. > That's usually no problem; but once in a while my mailbox is full. > At such times I would like my mailbox being emptied ASAP There are three ways to de

Re: Checking IMAP Accounts

2004-06-19 Thread Allie Martin
Christopher Brown, [CB] wrote: > My IMAP folders are not acting up nearly as much these days, but I'm > still having some trouble. One account has stopped retrieving new > messages, although the correct number shows up in the folder view > (under the unread heading, it right now shows "28<*>"). T

Re: Delete on server

2004-06-18 Thread Allie Martin
Raymund Thomas Tump, [RTT] wrote: > I noticed that a filter with active action delete on server delete > the message on the server the next time I open a connection to that > server. Not really what I expect but works so far. This is how it has always worked. The messages are marked for deletion

Re: Newbie seeking advice :-)

2004-06-14 Thread Allie Martin
Tony, [T] wrote: > I just 'ask' TB! to decrypt. Probably some setting but I have no > idea where to look. Any settings I should look for specifically? Have you enabled the integration? Tools//OpenPGP//Choose OpenPGP Version? -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http:

Re: GnuPG signature as an attachment. How?

2004-06-13 Thread Allie Martin
Bob, [B] wrote: > Can someone please tell me how to sign a message using GnuPG with TB! > whereby the signature appears as an attachment rather than inline? You need to enable GnuPG integration with TB! via the Tools menu's 'OpenPGP//Choose OpenPGP Version' configuration. When finished, in the e

Re: Access Violation

2004-06-13 Thread Allie Martin
Julian Beach (Lists), [JB] wrote: >> Hmmm. This shouldn't be the case. It should open and I confirm your >> problem. Seems like a bug. Can anyone else confirm this. I'll bring it >> up on TBBETA > I cannot confirm this. Double-clicking on the HTML file results in the > opening warning. If I choos

Re: Access Violation

2004-06-13 Thread Allie Martin
Tony, [T] wrote: > Can I explicitly tell TB! to use a certain browser to render a page? No. TB! will use the default browser for the system. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.04 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp6mqDgVOqad.pgp

Re: Access Violation

2004-06-13 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: T>> Much cheaper then dail-up. > ISDN is close to unaffordably expensive. Ha! I forgot to mention that part. I pay USD$130/month for my ADSL connection (768/256 Kbps). That is by no means cheap either. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys

Re: Access Violation

2004-06-13 Thread Allie Martin
Tony, [T] wrote: > Now you are mainly talking about spam I think? I tackle spam by > other means. The let them come approach? How about approaching it from a broader POV. If the spammers have less addresses to spam, then they'll likely use less Internet bandwidth sending spam. The bandwidth being

Re: Access Violation

2004-06-13 Thread Allie Martin
Tony, [T] wrote: > Maybe we are talking about different things? Almost all people I > know are on ADSL/SDSL/Cable. Much cheaper then dail-up. ADSL is a > booming market here. :) All the people I know around me speak English. I was in Japan a couple years ago and met people from many countries. N

Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?

2004-06-12 Thread Allie Martin
Simon Fincham, [SF] wrote: > I believe Plugins come into there own if you are using a protocol > other than POP3 for your E-Mail. You may also be using POP3 but with encryption. Again, the usual POP3 scanners will not detect viruses over an ecrypted feed. The plugin helps there. -- -=[ Allie ]

Re: Select All | Copy

2004-06-12 Thread Allie Martin
Kathy Dunham, [KD] wrote: > I sometimes have the need to copy the contents of an email into > my PIM for future reference (which also syncs to my PDA). Is there > a way that when I right click on a message, "Select All", then > "Copy", that the copying will capture the To:, From:, Subject:, and >

Re: Newbie seeking advice :-)

2004-06-12 Thread Allie Martin
Tony, [T] wrote: > I'm a long time Forte Agent user that's looking for a client > that didn't stop development 5 years ago... I used Forte' Agent prior to using TB! myself. > I've been looking through some FAQs but I couldn't find the > (complete) answers there. Partly because I have the impre

Re: was runtime, now error reading database...

2004-06-12 Thread Allie Martin
Sl, [S] wrote: > Further to my recent post re runtime errors - apparently associated > with ver 2.11.x...I started getting 'error reading database' > messages (ERDM)...in ver 2.10.03...which doesn't seem to elicit > runtime error messages > I invoked Message Finder to find certain messages in

Re: IMAP sent-mail folder

2004-06-11 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote: AM>> My Sent folder is on the server while my Outbox is local. > So Outgoing mail filters work? Yes. Though I've been filtering to a local folder. I haven't tried filtering to server side folders. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http:

Re: IMAP sent-mail folder

2004-06-11 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Fjelsten wrote: > I wonder if this _incredibly_ basic IMAP feature will ever be > implemented. It sort of defies the point of IMAP if it doesn't work > for outgoing mail. It's implemented but it's buggy. There are a few who aren't experiencing the buggy server side outbox that I am. > BTW

Re: Threading across folders

2004-06-11 Thread Allie Martin
rich gregory wrote: > Sometimes in TB! I'll move mssgs FROM the "sent mail" folder TO the > folder where the rest of the correspondence with that > individual/company resides. One really nice thing about Eudora was > that putting a SENT mssg into any in-box folder would cause the > header to show

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources - Solved!

2004-06-11 Thread Allie Martin
Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: > Woho! B-) ;-) > Not only is it not hogging CPU, but it is running *really* fast. I > had no idea TB! was this quick! Oh yes, it is fast. I'm happy you can now experience one of the things I enjoy about TB!. > Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyo

Re: tbudl list subjects

2004-06-10 Thread Allie Martin
Robin Anson, [RA] wrote: > If you _really_ want to do it, you could use XRay (www.xrayapp.com) > as the tool. Ironically, I used to use XRay to get *remove* those subject list prefixes. It can surely insert them too. :) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.

Re: IMAP sent-mail folder

2004-06-10 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote: > Having just begun working with IMAP/Exchange again with the same > difficulties with Outbox/Sent mail as previously I assume that you > by this mean that IMAP outgoing does not work properly at your end > either? Nope. I've never gotten it working properly. It only

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-10 Thread Allie Martin
Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: > That last line worries me. I tried to uninstall BayesIt recently > because I am not using it. TB! basically hung when I tried to quit > the plugins window and after restarting BayesIt was back. Seems like the Bayesit plugin is the culprit. The Bayesit plugin directo

Re: IMAP sent-mail folder

2004-06-10 Thread Allie Martin
Jacob Cohen, [JC] wrote: > I just got IMAP enabled, and I wanted to have my sent-messages be > stored on the server. If I check the "Sent Mail" box in the mail > management option dialog, and pick the sent-mail folder on my IMAP > server, it causes outgoing messages to hang instead of sending. Wh

Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark

2004-06-09 Thread Allie Martin
Chris, [C] wrote: >> Furthermore, we've seen where off-list moderating takes a list. C> Is that because the moderators have to coordinate their messages so C> the offender does not get reprimanded multiple times? No. The members often feel that what others do on list is fine since it's not modera

Re: "Repair Message Base" doesn't work

2004-06-09 Thread Allie Martin
DW Susan wrote: DS> Created a new local folder and copied both the .TBB and .TBI files DS> into the new folder. After restarting TB, all the messages show up in DS> that new folder... but I still can't open any of them. When I deleted DS> the .TBI file and restarted TB again, the messages don't

Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)

2004-06-09 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM>> Yes, it means running the complete installation. TF> You should mentioned that TB needs to be closed first. Yes, thanks. :) -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com TB! v2.11.03 ยท WinXP Pro SP1 pgpOfU41FWUM7.pgp Description: PGP signat

Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: AM> There are some extensions currently available, but none that offer AM> any real functionality. Ooops! In all fairness, I forgot about the Enigmail/EnigMIME extension. This one was nice to use since you could autoPGP/MIME sign and also autoverify signed messa

Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Sl, [S] wrote: S> On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S> Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An S> obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may S> be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette S> lig

Re: TheBat and IMAP IDLE

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Sl, [S] wrote: S> Can anyone tell me if The Bat v 2.11.x (or 2.10.x) has IMAP IDLE ?? S> (which...as I understand it from Mozilla ThunderBird...which I also S> use...and which has IMAP IDLE...means if you leave your mailer S> 'on-line'...it will tell you when you have new mail and download it S> f

Re: In line photo question.

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Nick Ohare, [NO] wrote: NO> Still trying to get a friend comfortable with his new version of NO> the Bat! He called me up earlier and asked me how to imbed an NO> image directly into the message body of an email and I had no idea NO> how to do it (I use the Bat! v1.62i). NO> I'm going have to ass

Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Nednieuws | Charles, [NC] wrote: NC> Yes, I am. And should I violate, block me off the list. This is NC> what you could do with people that violate the list. Send them a NC> personal warning. If they, as you said, don't respond to this, NC> block them after a couple of warnings. In the overwhelmi

Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Nednieuws | Charles, [NC] wrote: AM>> It's a challenge keeping the lists to the standard they currently are AM>> and along the way, we inevitably get comments like yours with a few in AM>> agreement. That's no problem. They're duly noted. However, the AM>> moderatorial notes will continue. NC> Do

Re: Error message from Help screen

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Maggie, [M] wrote: A>> Would you send an example of the link you sent? M> Here it is: M> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0890055602/104-7347640-0256713?v=glance It works here. M> It shows to me as clickable and also to another friend who is using The Bat! I'm not really sure wha

Re: Error message from Help screen

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM> Another user of The Bat! emailed to say the link I had sent them MM> did not appear as a link. Would you send an example of the link you sent? Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? MM> So, I went into that pesky Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer to M

Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Jwayne, [J] wrote: J> Can the moderator send these seemingly endless "top posting" and J> "cut mark" messages to the offending poster and not the whole list? J> It's amazing how many of these I've been getting lately. Wading J> through these messages is - IMHO - _much_ more annoying than the J> re

Re: Possible IMAP problem in V2.11

2004-06-08 Thread Allie Martin
Phil, [P] wrote: P> Sorry for delay in replying. the weather was too nice to spend time P> in front of the computer! 2.11.02 made no difference but eventually P> I traced it to a problem with my firewall. If I turn it off then P> everything is fine. I don't quite understand why version 2.10.03 P>

Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)

2004-06-07 Thread Allie Martin
Cyrille, [C] wrote: C> I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did C> not understand one thing: When you say "install over" do you mean C> to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to C> exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ? Yes, it means runn

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-07 Thread Allie Martin
Krister Ekstrom, [KE] wrote: KE> No, especially not when it doesn't seem to be compatible with KE> other things than TB! itself. (or am i wrong here) If i'm right, KE> then i can't help wondering what the benefits of mail chat would KE> be. I have some friends, but i'm quite alone among them in us

Re: bayesit and the bat "speed"/multitasking

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Hello Max, Sunday, June 6, 2004, 8:09:21 AM, you wrote: AM>> Welcome aboard though I must admit that IMAP still has some problems, AM>> one that you've detected below. > yeah - I'm starting to see the tweaks ... anyone know if these are > high-priority for the The Bat team ? ;) > (since I wrote

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Urban, [U] wrote: U> In that case the person who gets the table can do something that is U> _much_ better: (S)he can tell the sender that doing tables like that U> isn't necessarily a good thing and show him or her a better alternative. .. the same can apply for the emoticon issue. In fact the em

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Simon Mikkelsen, [SM] wrote: Check list all coming up with nil snipped. SM> I think it is a regular bug, and not just the usual errors in the SM> mailbox files. The problem has existed from I ran 2.11 the first SM> time, and I have never had any problems with 2.x. It would be too SM> much of a co

Re: bayesit and the bat "speed"/multitasking

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Andre Wichartz, [AW] wrote: AW> I always thought that the plugins don't care for the protocoll and will AW> work with imap and pop. The old homepage for bayesit 0.4 said as much. AW> However, the site for v0.5 says that it doesn't work with imap so there AW> seems to have changed something. I dou

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Urban, [U] wrote: U> Even a silly sentence as "The dog says grr and the cat meows" U> shouldn't be interpreted as "The dog says angry and the cat meows" U> unless _I_ (the sender) mean it to be so. I agree with this and simply because IMO, an emoticon is being inappropriately triggered. Emoticons

Re: Bat bugs force me to T-Bird

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Sl, [S] wrote: S> I am writing this from my (and Allie Martin's) alternate mailer as S> TheBat (on my PC) is flightless at present. S> I have submitted a big report to Ritlabs which in short says that I got S> database reading error reports ...Attempts to repair the base did not S> work or result

Re: bayesit and the bat "speed"/multitasking

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Max Rydahl Andersen, [MRA] wrote: MRA> I've been using The Bat in the past on and off the last couple of MRA> years to see when it would get respectable IMAP supportand it MRA> seems that has finally arrived with the 2.11 release. MRA> So, now I've bought it to support the great software... :)

Re: cleaning up replies

2004-06-06 Thread Allie Martin
Michael L. Wilson, [MLW] wrote: MLW> It is, in fact, generated by Nod32's imon. I have adjusted and MLW> adjusted and it will not go away. I found a thread on another MLW> board that said you had to tweak the registry, but did not tell MLW> how. Any ideas? I am using the latest version 2 I've nev

Re: cleaning up replies

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Michael L. Wilson, [MLW] wrote: MLW> I have modified the QT to get rid of many things, but not matter what MLW> I do, I cannot get rid of this line: MLW> __ NOD32 1.713 (20040409) Information __ MLW> The 1.713 changes every couple of days. I have tried * and ?? and MLW> many

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Urban, [U] wrote: U> Because I do NOT want them to use the icons under ANY circumstances. If U> I write h2g2 it is because I _mean_ the book, not some little image over U> which I have no control (unless I break into the computer of the one who U> is receiving the mail and remove it from her/his p

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: AJ> The compression/purge used to run very slowly for my first account until AJ> I repaired it. Now that TB! has thrown away about 3/4 of my inbox in AJ> the repair process, the whole compression/purge is a lot more timely. AJ> You win some, you lose some. :-( This i

Re: IMAP/TB! has gone VERY wrong!

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven, [CW] wrote: CW> I first spotted the problem when I noticed some of my mail that was CW> previously being auto-filtered was no longer moving. Fine I thought, CW> I'll try manually triggering the filter, but again, nothing happened :-( I no longer am able to leave TB! running for long

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Simon Mikkelsen, [SM] wrote: SM> It is only some tasks which makes it use the abnormal amount of SM> resources. Some of those tasks are: SM> *Fetching mail SM> *Saving an e-mail using CTRL+S (e.g. the one I'm writing now) SM> *Applying the "NOT spam"-feature to a mail SM> *Using the internal backu

Re: v2.11.02 - Congrats to Ritlabs

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: TF> Upon Marek's tip, I switched to the HTML editor. I wrote myself an TF> HTML mail with all features I could put into one message, and it TF> arrived well. This thing has evolved in TB. Wow. This is really great to hear. The editor is a basic tool and it really sho

Re: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Jan Rifkinson, [JR] wrote: JR> 1. IMO, the full width message list view now available is JR> extremely useful so thanks for that, RitLabs. Same here. I asked for it soon after I started using TB! in late 1998. :) JR> 2. Today I noticed that NOD32/Bat! identifies an infected file JR> right on the

Re: A rant

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Martin Webster, [MW] wrote: MW> the meaning of a communication is the response it illicits - - MW> rather than the intent of the author. Wow! Hey, I like that. :) Where did you read that? I agree with it provided that both the sender and listener have a good command of the language they're commu

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: AM>> I just saw one from mmMeister on HTML editor enhancements. I'm AM>> pretty sure he's not the only one who has appreciated the HTML AM>> editor's improvements. TF> I always thought Maggie was a "she". :oops: ... I never knew. :) AM>> Those anti-HTML editor pos

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: TF> That's not true. I keep campaigning against the memory leaks, but TF> mostly on TBBETA, I admit. I am not sure whether your bug is the TF> same memory leak that leads to sudden crashes or not. It's not. He describes TB! not properly shutting down while doing a pu

Re: How make smileys work?

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Gaurav Manchanda, [GM] wrote: GM> Thanks for the advice Dennis. :) It would seem that these smileys are more very popular and a welcome addition for many. Though I wasn't missing them and certainly not unhappy that they're now there. They're quite pleasant and look better than their raw text cou

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-05 Thread Allie Martin
Boris Gereg, [BG] wrote: BG> I agree with some of you. I cannot understand why Ritlabs spends BG> its resources for "features" like smiles, chat... Who needs it? BG> The one and only reason I switched to Bat was it funcionality - BG> mailer, no more no less. The more "features" they add, the more

Re: A rant

2004-06-04 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG> These are OPINIONS. .. Which at times can be harshly worded. If opinions are harshly worded and are deemed unreasonable, expect harsh retorts from the advocates you do see your arguments as unreasonable or based on incorrect impressions/knowledge of what is being cri

Re: Definitive list of Smilies.

2004-06-04 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven, [CW] wrote: CW> Apologies if I've missed it somewhere or if I'm OT, but is the a CW> definitive list anywhere of what combinations produce what smilies, or CW> is it a case of trial & error/suck it and see? There's a folder called 'Images' in the TB! installation directory. In it ar

Re: Sending from IMAP account.

2004-06-04 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven, [CW] wrote: CW> Anyone any ideas why this is happening, as it's VERY frustrating! CW> Would it have anything to do with both my outbox and sent items CW> being server side? It may very well do. Would you try sending mail with your outbox local? I can send without trouble only when t

Re: coffee mugs in TB

2004-06-04 Thread Allie Martin
Martin Webster, [MW] wrote: MW> I don't think it's as simple as that... I've got no smilies in this MW> thread at all now. This is because the pdsf.msl file has been altered with newer versions. The cup and beer icons are no longer triggered by (b) and (c). -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and

Re: spell checker

2004-06-04 Thread Allie Martin
Roland Burger, [RB] wrote: RB> what can be the matter that I don't have automatic spell RB> checker? If you're using the Windows plain text or HTML editor, then the autochecker doesn't work. It will only work with MicroEd. RB> I have installed intpack.msi, What is OKB and where I can get it? I

Re: Possible IMAP problem in V2.11

2004-06-04 Thread Allie Martin
Phil, [P] wrote: P> I upgraded from 2.10.03 to 2.11 and everything seemed OK until I P> rebooted my machine. From this point onwards I was unable to P> connect to my ISP's IMAP server to read mail. I deleted the account P> and added it again in case the settings were corrupted but was P> still una

Re: In line photos with the Bat! v2

2004-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
Nick Ohare, [NO] wrote: NO> Thank you for the blazing fast reply! Unfortunately, I think NO> I wasn't very specific as to what I was asking. I just talked a NO> friend into switching over to the Bat! from Netscape mail and he NO> wants his received messages to show the jpgs in the message body N

Re: Message filtering.

2004-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven wrote: Basically, I want to *move* the IMAP messages to a local folder and based on date. For example, anything stored in any of my IMAP folders over 3 months old, I want to remove from the IMAP server and place in a mirrored folder structure on my local system/disk. So is anyone su

Re: coffee mugs in TB

2004-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
Ian A. White wrote: Really, anything that is not supposed to be displayed as normal text should have some lead-in and lead-out character sequences to make sure that it cannot be misinterpreted. I suppose this is a case of something evolving without too much thought. It would seem that in the cont

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Allie Martin
Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote: MU> I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like MU> this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? Giving no information about the message you're replying to is unacceptable and assumes that all readers thread their messages. This actually annoys m

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Allie Martin
Allen wrote: Even if all that is irrelevant, there is some value in a strictly inforced 'my way or the highway' approach--if there were conditions on when top posting was and was not accepted, it would be near impossible to enforce any sort of quoting policy--since it would all, inherently,

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Allie Martin
Wayne King, [WK] wrote: WK> In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll WK> down past the quoted text to read the response. This annoyance leads one to trim when not top posting, another vital rule for discussion lists, i.e., no overquoting. :) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread Allie Martin
ken green wrote: One thing that threw a wrench in the workings of my perception on this was the idea of a physical Inbox, and realizing that new messages at top more closely resembles a real-world Inbox. We do it that way since we can't really do any better when managing and organising physical ob

Re: Migrating to Linux - Exporting from The Bat!

2004-05-31 Thread Allie Martin
Sean Rima wrote: At one stage there was a report that a linux port was going to be done, I am still waiting :) Additionally, TB! reportedly runs very well under WINE. The developers are so occupied with completing/refining new features as well as debugging, that I doubt we'll be seeing a Linux po

Re: link wrapping

2004-05-29 Thread Allie Martin
Jacopo Ognibene, [JO] wrote: JO> More than this, i've noticed that you can add many text after the URL JO> and TB doesn't wrap. See at the end of the line here: Yes. What you see in the editor before sending is what is sent, without any additional wrapping. Technically, this isn't true for long l

Re: TB! or not TB ? (..that is the question..)

2004-05-28 Thread Allie Martin
Sl, [S] wrote: S> Anyone else tried both T-Bird and TB!...especially IMAP?? I more than try them since I currently use them. :) ThunderBird's IMAP support works more reliably, especially with a wider variety of connection speeds and servers. However, it's a basic client otherwise. I fight with i

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