Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Mary, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:51:36 PM, you wrote: Mary I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there Mary since I have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I Mary opened everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current Mary User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! is where it should be. There are a ton of keys in there. I had to scroll down a bit to see it. Mary These are .jpg files, mostly. When I save them to Desktop, they Mary come up with a Gimp icon. (I have the Gimp program, but I don't Mary recall associating Save to Desktop with it. Probably did and Mary then forgot.) The .jpg files are associated to GIMP, not the save to desktop. Mary So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable Mary under Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy Mary of them and put it back afterward. You could empty them, just being cognizant of the fact that you'll receive no warnings or disables if you try to double-click an attachment. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Save your pennies. The dollars go to the I.R.S. Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Leif! On Monday, June 14, 2004, 12:06 PM, you wrote: Mary I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there Mary since I have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. Mary I opened everything in the registry I could see under Mary HKey/Current User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Mary Strange. LG HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! is where it should be. There LG are a ton of keys in there. I had to scroll down a bit to see it. I'll look once more, out of curiosity. But this problem, which I had thought was a settings problem, has now been solved. My bat temp files had grown to be too many, with 88 empty TEMP subfolders. When I deleted those, the attachments opened normally when asked to. I was considerably relieved to get it fixed, as you can imagine and as I expressed to Urban, whose eagle-eye spotted that piece of the puzzle. Mary These are .jpg files, mostly. When I save them to Desktop, they Mary come up with a Gimp icon. (I have the Gimp program, but I don't Mary recall associating Save to Desktop with it. Probably did and Mary then forgot.) LG The .jpg files are associated to GIMP, not the save to desktop. I see. They are now associated with the ms display function--got guidance to do that on this thread. But of course, changing that association didn't help, since it was the excess .tmp files causing the problem. Even though each of the 88 was empty. Mary So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable Mary under Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy Mary of them and put it back afterward. LG You could empty them, just being cognizant of the fact that you'll LG receive no warnings or disables if you try to double-click an LG attachment. In the ongoing trial-and-error process I removed them and then I put them right back, having saved them in SmartBat. Thanks for all your help, Leif. And BTW, h2g2 , I Didn't Panic. Stayed patient and relied on tbudl and there was the answer. :42: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Monday, June 14, 2004, 1:39 PM, you wrote: MB I was considerably relieved to get it fixed, as you can imagine and as MB I expressed to Urban, whose eagle-eye spotted that piece of the MB puzzle. and Paul gave you the courage ( I'm the tin man:) to hit DEL. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-0 (14.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Paul! On Monday, June 14, 2004, 3:10 PM, you wrote: MB I was considerably relieved to get [attachments to messages back MB to opening as they should] ... as I expressed to Urban, whose MB eagle-eye spotted that piece of the puzzle. PC and Paul gave you the courage ( I'm the tin man:) to hit DEL. Yes, credit where credit is due!! :) But isn't it the Cowardly Lion who knew where to go to get courage and the Tin Man who knew where to go to get a brain? No, that was the Scarecrow. Marck, I'm headed to tbot with this, on the instant!! And thanks again, to Martin Webster, for the staying power to get to the point where deletion appeared as a solution. He was up very late for me, trying to help me get this sorted. :) All my helpers are Wizards! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Friday, June 11, 2004, Mary Bull wrote: I did this. You have solved the problem! All the old attachments will open now, just like the four new ones do. I'm so glad you got it to work. It took me some time, because I first moved the .tmp files to another folder, as you suggested, rather than deleting them. After I was able to open the attachments successfully, I then deleted the 88 bat.tmp files. I don't know why, but this approach always make me think the old swedish Minister of Finance Gunnar Sträng. He wore both braces and waist-belt, not a man you'd catch easily with his pants down. It's not a familiar activity for me, and I had trouble controlling the mouse to highlight them in selected blocks rather than one at a time. You know what they say, practice makes perfect. I don't have the words to say how much joy it brings me to have this problem solved. Thank you very much, Urban. And thank you, Mary, for sharing your happiness. -- Urban There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary math, and those who don't Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, MB Yes. And I want to say here, as near the top of my post as I can and MB still make sense: You Are Right. What you suggested did work, and it MB was the .tmp files that were messing things up for me. Pleased to see you got it sorted! :-) :42: - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMrbsDknq5PWREYNEQLV8wCfbBTH5tRTmmRvk+6tqJoPs+vjYPoAn3So 8cIRKBpDQqeGk2LbFjn+pIfA =oMjQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Mary, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:43:14 PM, you wrote: MB Last night I re-downloaded v. 2.11.02 and used the second download to MB re-install The Bat! That did not help. The icons still did not MB respond. I tried that also. I'm running that new .3 beta, and the result is the same. MB My cousin, who uses a Mac machine, had sent me 2 scans of old marriage MB certificates and 4 scans of old family photos as 6 separate MB attachments to 6 separate messages. She scanned them as .tif format MB and converted to .jpg before sending. Those attachments still will not MB open unless saved to Desktop and all attachments--whether MS Word MB Documents or jpeg images--I had received prior to her sending the 6 MB attachments will also still not open. I also have a Mac, but it makes no difference. I can't view /any/ attachment. Even worse, when I do receive an attachment, I have to drag the message to another folder (also remote IMAP) before the attachement gets the correct size. Usually it's about 128 bytes before I move it and whatever its size is after I move it. MB But changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of MB the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when MB double-clicked or requested to open. No dialogue window, nothing. So I MB put the setting back to internal viewer, which I prefer because I MB think that is safer. Same here. I can only save. MB I should add for clarity, what I put in my original query: This all MB began while I was still using TB! v. 2.00.6. I downloaded v. 2.11.02 MB hoping to cure the problem. That, of course, did not help, except that MB I can now see smileys at will. g Nor does reverting XP Home to an MB earlier restore point fix the non-responding icons. I'm a new user. .2 was my first (about 5 weeks ago). Bought it a week ago and installed the new beta. MB So that's all my latest info. What do you think? That it's too hard to figure out how to do it. However, I chose the bat because it uses plaintext /and/ has a graphical user interface. Or else, I'd still be using mutt. No attachments or mime, no virii. Never had that sort of trouble on the Mac. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Charles! On Friday, June 11, 2004, 8:08 AM, you wrote: MB ... non-responding [attachment] icons in [The Bat!]. My problem was solved last night when Urban suggested that I delete my TEMP files. With the help of several others, we got the clue that an excess of them might be causing the problem. Still others helped me find the path to those bat.tmp files in my WinXP Home operating system. There were 88 of them, all empty. As soon as I moved them out of the TEMP folder, all attachment icons in my messages responded normally. So I then deleted the 88 bat.tmp files. In the future, deleting .tmp files is going to be one of my regular computer housekeeping chores. :) CMG I'm a new user. .2 was my first (about 5 weeks ago). Bought it a week CMG ago and installed the new beta. Be sure to bring any and all problems here. There are subscribers here who will stay with you until your problem is fixed or another source of help is thought of. The TB! discussion lists are among the best things available in using TB!, I think. Thank you again, also, for writing to me. It helped my morale a lot to hear that I was not alone. Although, of course, it's quite possible that your difficulties don't have the same cause as mine. MB So that's all my latest info. What do you think? CMG That it's too hard to figure out how to do it. ... Yes, but the rewards are great in the end. I have been using The Bat! for something over a year-and-a-half now. I came to it with minimal computer skills and installed it on a Win95 OS. Generous people on this list have been my tutors in nearly everything. CMG ... However, I chose the bat because it uses plaintext /and/ has CMG a graphical user interface. Or else, I'd still be using mutt. That's why I picked it. And I'm still a plain-text person. I just turn the new smileys on occasionally for fun. But too much color on my screen is distracting, and HTML often physically hurts my eyes. Additionally, and as my first reason, I picked The Bat! for its safety. I can view my messages on the server and delete those I don't want to download. It has its own code for everything and I'm not at risk from the Internet Explorer core that Outlook Express uses. Well, the advantages are too many to list here, where everyone values sticking to the point and being as brief as possible. Delete your TEMP files if you need to? Tell us all here what happens then? And thanks again for writing! CMG No attachments or mime, no virii. Never had that sort of trouble on CMG the Mac. All Mac users love the Mac, I think. But once involved with Windows, I have found it hard to leave. I hope all your difficulties with The Bat! find solutions soon. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Plan9! On Friday, June 11, 2004, 8:16 AM, you wrote: MB I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not MB The Bat! files, so I didn't. P I periodically empty my temp folder(s). temp folders are just that P for temporary use and anything left over from session to session are P oversights, poor programming, non-graceful program termination, crashes, P etc. Now having said this, some dumb program/programmer will assume P files in a temp folder are perpetual and sacrosanct. :-( Maybe not. If I have a program that stupid on my machine, I don't need it anyway! g And I don't believe any *dumb* programmers subscribe to this list. :) But then, I'm in love with all my fellow subscribers, and there's the old proverb Love is Blind. I'm going to empty the entire temp folder now and see what happens. If you hear a loud scream, scoot over here quick and take me to the emergency room. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Robin, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:47:40 PM, you wrote: On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:09:14 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: I am going to study the Windows XP Home Help site and see if I can find out how to locate the path for %TEMP%\bat\ Open a command prompt window (Start - Run - type in cmd and press enter) then at the command prompt type set (without quotes) and press enter. That will show you all the environment variables including TEMP. It does indeed. This directory does seem to be given in the MS-DOSified form, of having each folder name compacted below 9 letters per folder or filename. But it is still quite workable. It appears I do have quite a few 0 KB bat temp files myself. A real long list, all created in March. All hexadecimally numbered. I wonder what they're counting? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Mary, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 12:31:15 AM, you wrote: MW Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only MW thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current MW set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups MW etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. MW I'll call it a day now... it's 11:30 pm here. MB Thank you so much, once again. I'll try the re-install. Good night. :) Just to let you know that I'm having the same problem. You are not alone :). -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Charles! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 1:53 AM, you wrote: MW Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only MW thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current MW set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups MW etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. snip nc Just to let you know that I'm having the same problem. You are not nc alone :). Let's try to figure it out, then! :) Thanks for writing! Further information on what's happening here: Last night I re-downloaded v. 2.11.02 and used the second download to re-install The Bat! That did not help. The icons still did not respond. My cousin, who uses a Mac machine, had sent me 2 scans of old marriage certificates and 4 scans of old family photos as 6 separate attachments to 6 separate messages. She scanned them as .tif format and converted to .jpg before sending. Those attachments still will not open unless saved to Desktop and all attachments--whether MS Word Documents or jpeg images--I had received prior to her sending the 6 attachments will also still not open. Last night my sister, whose OS is Win98SE, sent me a scanned document as a .jpg image. It opens quite normally with a double-click on the icon or a select of the right-click menu choice Open. This morning I find 2 more messages from my sister with scanned documents attached, 1) as .jpg image and 2) as MS Word Document attachment. These also open normally. She sent those at 4:30 a.m. my time and I have just asked her to send me a photo as a .jpg image to completely confirm that all attachments open normally that have been sent subsequent to the Mac attachments disaster. I'll have to wait until she checks her mail again for that. My settings are all the same both as I check the prior-to-the-Mac- messages and those subsequent to the Mac: the default TB! Protection fields (I erased those fields as an experiment, but it did not help, so I put them back, having saved them in SmartBat notepad) are in place. And I am using TB!'s internal viewer. But changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when double-clicked or requested to open. No dialogue window, nothing. So I put the setting back to internal viewer, which I prefer because I think that is safer. My suspicion is that something in the transmission from the Macintosh machine corrupted all my saved attachments. But I'm not technologically knowledgeable enough to know whether that is a feasible theory. I should add for clarity, what I put in my original query: This all began while I was still using TB! v. 2.00.6. I downloaded v. 2.11.02 hoping to cure the problem. That, of course, did not help, except that I can now see smileys at will. g Nor does reverting XP Home to an earlier restore point fix the non-responding icons. Last night I did a complete deep scan with my anti-virus program F-Secure and it came up clean. Also, I did a complete deep scan with my anti-trojan program TDS-3 and no trojans or suspicious files were found. I did this just in case my cousin had inadvertently sent me some malware. Also, I scanned with another anti-trojan program, Trojan Remover, which scan found no malware. AdAware 6.0 also says my machine is clean. So that's all my latest info. What do you think? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Thursday, 10 Jun 2004 08:43 [-0500] Mary Bull wrote: .. MB But changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of MB the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when MB double-clicked or requested to open. No dialogue window, nothing. So I MB put the setting back to internal viewer, which I prefer because I MB think that is safer. .. MB I should add for clarity, what I put in my original query: This all MB began while I was still using TB! v. 2.00.6. I downloaded v. 2.11.02 MB hoping to cure the problem. That, of course, did not help, except that MB I can now see smileys at will. g Nor does reverting XP Home to an MB earlier restore point fix the non-responding icons. .. heh, brainstorm mode on ;) I know a similar TB! behavior pattern - TB! before starting any viewer (even internal one) saves attachment in a folder %TEMP%\bat\, and the problem is that TB! doesn't try chaging folder name, nor showing any error message if this folder (or a file in this folder) cannot be created for some reason. So just as in your case - it does nothing on dbl-click. But I did that experement intentionally, so I don't know how the %TEMP% folder could be suddenly trashed the same way. PS: Mostly for developers - probably same effect was also reported @ nobat: http://www.forum.nobat.ru/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=2346 ~translated: Topic: cannot start attached files (v1.62r) -- / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Maxim! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 2:16 PM, you wrote: MB ... changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of MB the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when MB double-clicked or requested to open. . MR .. MR heh, brainstorm mode on ;) MR I know a similar TB! behavior pattern - TB! before starting any viewer MR (even internal one) saves attachment in a folder %TEMP%\bat\, and the MR problem is that TB! doesn't try chaging folder name, nor showing any error MR message if this folder (or a file in this folder) cannot be created for MR some reason. So just as in your case - it does nothing on dbl-click. So now I need to find the path to that folder. MR But I did that experement intentionally, so I don't know how the %TEMP% MR folder could be suddenly trashed the same way. Perhaps something in a downloaded attachment created in a different operating system from Windows, namely, Apple Macintosh. That is the one thing that stays constant--in everything I've tried. Ah! Bright idea. hehe I shall delete those 6 attachments that came from the Macintosh machine. MR PS: Mostly for developers - probably same effect was also reported @ nobat: MR http://www.forum.nobat.ru/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=2346 MR ~translated: Topic: cannot start attached files (v1.62r) I thank you very much. I'll report back what I find. 1) Whether I can find the path to the %TEMP%\bat\ folder. And 2) whether a simple deletion of the attachments in the 6 messages from the Macintosh machine repairs the break in the other attachments. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:09 PM, you wrote: MB Hello Maxim! MB On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 2:16 PM, you wrote: MR heh, brainstorm mode on ;) MB :) MR I know a similar TB! behavior pattern - TB! before starting any viewer MR (even internal one) saves attachment in a folder %TEMP%\bat\, and the MR problem is that TB! doesn't try chaging folder name, nor showing any error MR message if this folder (or a file in this folder) cannot be created for MR some reason. So just as in your case - it does nothing on dbl-click. MB I could not find %TEMP%\bat\ using Windows Explorer. under your user profile ( Win XP ) you will probably find these bat.tmp files, mine are HERE: C:\Documents and Settings\your_logon_name\Local Settings\Temp\* -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0424-2 (09.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Paul! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:23 PM, you wrote: MB I could not find %TEMP%\bat\ using Windows Explorer. PC under your user profile ( Win XP ) you will probably find these bat.tmp PC files, mine are HERE: PC C:\Documents and Settings\your_logon_name\Local Settings\Temp\* Thanks, Paul. That's where they were. 1) I found 88 separate bat.tmp listings. Every one of them contained 0 bytes. The separate listing at the top of these, bat, contained 32 KB but could not be opened (Windows does not know what to use etc.). I very much fear that all attachments from the past year and a half are gone beyond retrieval. 2) What I don't know is whether the attachments sent from the Macintosh machine caused this. 3) The good news is that almost everything important had already been copied to My Documents, My Pictures, Adobe Photo Deluxe 2, or Gimp. And a lot had been printed out in paper copies. 4) My opinion of TB! v. 2.11.02 is that it is just as wonderful as the TB! lists, and that's saying a lot! 5) Thanks a million!! :42: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:56 PM, you wrote: PC C:\Documents and Settings\your_logon_name\Local Settings\Temp\* MB Thanks, Paul. That's where they were. no problem! MB 1) I found 88 separate bat.tmp listings. Every one of them contained 0 MB bytes. The separate listing at the top of these, bat, contained 32 KB MB but could not be opened (Windows does not know what to use etc.). I MB very much fear that all attachments from the past year and a half are MB gone beyond retrieval. you have your setup to save attachments to a separate folder? and the folder is empty? MB 2) What I don't know is whether the attachments sent from the MB Macintosh machine caused this. doubt it. MB 3) The good news is that almost everything important had already been MB copied to My Documents, My Pictures, Adobe Photo Deluxe 2, or Gimp. MB And a lot had been printed out in paper copies. backups...backups...backups:) I use secondcopy to copy my BAT folders to another folder, then I save those to CD's. MB 4) My opinion of TB! v. 2.11.02 is that it is just as wonderful as the MB TB! lists, and that's saying a lot! yes it is!! now get the 2.11.03 !! MB 5) Thanks a million!! :42: a, love those emoticons! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0424-2 (09.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Paul! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: PC you have your setup to save attachments to a separate folder? and the PC folder is empty? No, until yesterday I had chosen keep attachments with message body. Last night I changed it to separate directory. (In Account/Properties/Files and Directories.) That may be what let me get the 4 .jpgs without problems this morning. They are now in Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\m.bull\ATTACH 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. I checked the Properties on every one of them. MB 2) What I don't know is whether the attachments sent from the MB Macintosh machine caused this. PC doubt it. So, gremlins. Or the Evil Tribble Twin. :) MB 3) The good news is that almost everything important had already been MB copied to My Documents, My Pictures, Adobe Photo Deluxe 2, or Gimp. MB And a lot had been printed out in paper copies. PC backups...backups...backups:) I use secondcopy to copy my BAT folders to PC another folder, then I save those to CD's. Well, I've been saying to you for two weeks that I was going to learn to use the Nero that's on my machine. Didn't yet. But I do have back-ups on my hard drive. And I have a Bat backup from Tools that I overwrite every day, but I save it by the month. So I could retrieve the May folder--the only thing is, that a Bat backup restore would do away with all of June. I don't want just yet to do that. I couldn't understand how to put Marck's batch backup into my system. And, like with Nero, I just procrastinated getting Second Copy that was recommended on that thread. MB 4) My opinion of TB! v. 2.11.02 is that it is just as wonderful as the MB TB! lists, and that's saying a lot! PC yes it is!! now get the 2.11.03 !! But I would have to become a Beta tester to do that! I'm really not competent to be a Beta tester!! MB 5) Thanks a million!! :42: PC a, love those emoticons! :h2g2: Maybe my attachment files are Lost in Space! No, different show. :) Anyway, thanks to you and to everyone! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:09:14 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: I am going to study the Windows XP Home Help site and see if I can find out how to locate the path for %TEMP%\bat\ Open a command prompt window (Start - Run - type in cmd and press enter) then at the command prompt type set (without quotes) and press enter. That will show you all the environment variables including TEMP. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:56:20 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: 1) I found 88 separate bat.tmp listings. Every one of them contained 0 bytes. The separate listing at the top of these, bat, contained 32 KB but could not be opened (Windows does not know what to use etc.). I very much fear that all attachments from the past year and a half are gone beyond retrieval. Files in the temp directory that are not actually in use can safely be deleted. Those that are actually in use won't go if you try to delete them. It is not a bad idea to periodically clean up the temp directory. Files often get left there when applications do not close cleanly. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Fri 11 June 2004, 7:28:12 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: PC you have your setup to save attachments to a separate folder? and the PC folder is empty? No, until yesterday I had chosen keep attachments with message body. Last night I changed it to separate directory. (In Account/Properties/Files and Directories.) Then the fact that you can't see them in a separate directory or folder is not a problem. They should still all be in the original email message. That may be what let me get the 4 .jpgs without problems this morning. They are now in Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\m.bull\ATTACH Sounds about right. 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. I checked the Properties on every one of them. As in the previous email I sent, you can safely delete these unless they have today's date, in which case they may be in use. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Thursday, June 10, 2004, Mary Bull wrote: 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. I checked the Properties on every one of them. snip :h2g2: Maybe my attachment files are Lost in Space! No, different show. :) But your old attachments still are working if you copy them to the desktop? It could very well be those empty .tmp files that are messing things up for you. Try closing TB, then move the .tmp-files to another folder, they normally are safe to delete but just in case... It may happen that Windows says that some of the files are being used and can't be moved, that's normal, just click OK. Then open TB again and try opening one of your attachments. -- Urban Cymbals are round, metal CLANGS! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Robin! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 6:29 PM, you wrote: MB ... until yesterday I had chosen keep attachments with message MB body. Last night I changed it to separate directory. (In MB Account/Properties/Files and Directories.) RA Then the fact that you can't see them in a separate directory or folder RA is not a problem. They should still all be in the original email message. Thank you for all three of your messages. They are a help. It is true that, so far, any particular attachment that I save to Desktop or other appropriate folder can then be opened. It's just that The Bat! will not open them--a double-click or menu request results in nothing. But since they will open if saved elsewhere, the files must be available from some folder on the hard drive. MB That may be what let me get the 4 .jpgs without problems this morning. MB They are now in Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\m.bull\ATTACH RA Sounds about right. I think I'm beginning to get the picture. (No pun intended.) :) MB ... 88 bat.tmp files in my profile ... RA As in the previous email I sent, you can safely delete these unless they RA have today's date, in which case they may be in use. Thank you. I am going to delete them. They are just taking up space, since, according to Properties, each contains 0 bytes. I've been out to dinner and it was heartening to come home and find your three helpful posts in my mail. I'll report back to the list with more information, if I find out anything further. Once again, many thanks! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Urban! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:01 PM, you wrote: MB 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. MB ... Maybe my attachment files are Lost in Space! ... U But your old attachments still are working if you copy them to the U desktop? Yes. And I want to say here, as near the top of my post as I can and still make sense: You Are Right. What you suggested did work, and it was the .tmp files that were messing things up for me. U It could very well be those empty .tmp files that are messing things U up for you. Try closing TB, then move the .tmp-files to another folder, U they normally are safe to delete but just in case... U It may happen that Windows says that some of the files are being used U and can't be moved, that's normal, just click OK. U Then open TB again and try opening one of your attachments. I did this. You have solved the problem! All the old attachments will open now, just like the four new ones do. It took me some time, because I first moved the .tmp files to another folder, as you suggested, rather than deleting them. After I was able to open the attachments successfully, I then deleted the 88 bat.tmp files. It's not a familiar activity for me, and I had trouble controlling the mouse to highlight them in selected blocks rather than one at a time. I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not The Bat! files, so I didn't. I don't have the words to say how much joy it brings me to have this problem solved. Thank you very much, Urban. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Mary, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:37:49 -0500GMT(09.06.2004, 16:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: But I still can no longer open my received attachments, except by saving them to Desktop. did you check options/preferences/protection? There is a field 'disable opening of these files'. -- Kind Regards Feli The Bat! 2.11.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 09:37 -0500 (09/06/200415:37 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB Attachments received stopped displaying for me in TB! v. 2.00.6 MB yesterday. I had changed no settings. There had been no problems with MB a double-click for jpegs and docs previously, or with the right-click MB Open menu choice. ...snip MB Can anyone help me fix this? Much appreciation in advance! Just a suggestion... right-click in the image pane and click on 'View | Hide (to Button)'. Now click on the new attachment button and see if the default action is 'Open'. You could try changing the settings before returning back to the image pane view; i.e. Hide (to Pane). - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMcyKDknq5PWREYNEQIPXACaAg/FwzAwZx+wXlb3yaoAMLtAvokAoKAs ypV7DtlICZSVYKAua2bRt/aB =dLhG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 10:52 AM, you wrote: MB Attachments received stopped displaying for me in TB! v. 2.00.6 MB yesterday. I had changed no settings. There had been no problems with MB a double-click for jpegs and docs previously, or with the right-click MB Open menu choice. snip MW Just a suggestion... right-click in the image pane and click on 'View | MW Hide (to Button)'. Now click on the new attachment button and see if the MW default action is 'Open'. You could try changing the settings before MW returning back to the image pane view; i.e. Hide (to Pane). Did both of these, following your instructions above. No help. The default action is Open, but the file will not display from within TB! Only if saved elsewhere. In an archive search, the only thing I turned up was something about a registry key. But these keys are not in my registry. Must be something to do only with v. 1.45 and others in the year 2000: Begin copy-and-paste: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:41:04 -0700GMT NA I have my Options set so _no_ attachments can be opened in TB!, NA but for the life of me, I cannot remember where I set that Option NA from? ... it's in the registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! keys: ProtectAllowOpen ProtectDisableOpen ProtectWarnOpen End copy-and-paste It's a puzzle. But thanks for the suggestion about the buttons and menus. :) I did a boot-drive defragmentation two days ago. Maybe lost something there? If I get desperate, I can always use XP's Restore function. So far it's just an extra step to view the files, so the problem remains only an annoyance and a puzzle. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Mary Bull wrote: Can anyone help me fix this? Much appreciation in advance! I don't have a clue to what this can be, but the first thing that comes to mind is to try changing the settings for Use external viewer to open attached images (Options-Preferences-General). -- Urban To most people solutions mean finding the answers. But to chemists solutions are things that are still all mixed up. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Urban! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 10:20 AM, you wrote: MB Can anyone help me fix this? ... U I don't have a clue to what this can be, but the first thing that comes U to mind is to try changing the settings for Use external viewer to open U attached images (Options-Preferences-General). Thanks for the suggestion. It seems to make no difference, in that the attachment icon makes no response when double-clicked or when Open is selected from the menu, whether the setting is for Use external viewer to open attached images or not. These are all either jpegs or documents in either Word doc format or rich text format. All worked until yesterday. Either my interaction with attachments received from a Mac operating system, or something Windows did in a defrag two days ago now are my best suspects as to culprits. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 10:52 AM, you wrote: MB Can anyone help me fix this? MW Just a suggestion... right-click in the image pane and click on 'View | MW Hide (to Button)'. Now click on the new attachment button and see if the MW default action is 'Open'. You could try changing the settings before MW returning back to the image pane view; i.e. Hide (to Pane). Since this did not help, nor changing the setting to Use External Viewer, and since TB! has permission to display .jpeg and .jpg, I decided to try my idea of taking Windows XP back before the boot-time defrag on Monday. Put it back to Sunday, June 6. This showed my application as TB! 2.00.6. But it would still not open attachments by clicking on the icons with the e-mail. So I undid that restore. Plainly it's a setting messed up somewhere--either in Windows or in The Bat! If anyone has further ideas, I would very much like to hear them. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 15:51 -0500 (09/06/200421:51 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Do you see the image in one of the tabbed panes; e.g. Clipbrd1.gif? MB No. That's does seem rather odd. How about tabs such as Part.txt? (take any signed message from me in TBBETA) MW Also, do you see the following in Options | Preferences | Protection? ...snip MB Yes. I'm going to look into this a bit more since changing it made no difference to my set up. MW This is from the registry key: MW ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV MB I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there since I MB have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I opened MB everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current MB User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. It's in my setup _but_ I did import my registry setting when I rebuild XP a few months ago so it could be redundant. I can send you that key if you like. MW I decided to remove *.GIF from my list (and subsequently the registry) MW to see if I could emulate your problem. Guess what? I can still open GIF MW files without a warning. MB These are .jpg files, mostly. When I save them to Desktop, they come MB up with a Gimp icon. (I have the Gimp program, but I don't recall MB associating Save to Desktop with it. Probably did and then forgot.) I chose .gif simply because I could see one in my message list. Nonetheless, I don't think it's a program association problem as this is about TB! internal protection mechanisms. MB So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable under MB Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy of them and MB put it back afterward. MB What do you think? I shouldn't be a problem so long as you know that you are opening images only. I'm going to give this a try too. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMd9tjknq5PWREYNEQIecwCfRVqZDMOpgAlmNbjEtMIK6tqzzm8AoMBZ 2+s03PGMzeySXEFv+4W1WLRq =XCCX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: MW Hello Mary, MW On 09 June 2004, 15:51 -0500 (09/06/200421:51 local time) Mary Bull [MB] MW in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Do you see the image in one of the tabbed panes; e.g. Clipbrd1.gif? MB No. MW That's does seem rather odd. How about tabs such as Part.txt? (take any MW signed message from me in TBBETA) MW Also, do you see the following in Options | Preferences | Protection? MW ...snip MB Yes. MW I'm going to look into this a bit more since changing it made no MW difference to my set up. MW This is from the registry key: MW ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV MB I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there since I MB have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I opened MB everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current MB User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. MW It's in my setup _but_ I did import my registry setting when I rebuild MW XP a few months ago so it could be redundant. I can send you that key if MW you like. MW I decided to remove *.GIF from my list (and subsequently the registry) MW to see if I could emulate your problem. Guess what? I can still open GIF MW files without a warning. MB These are .jpg files, mostly. When I save them to Desktop, they come MB up with a Gimp icon. (I have the Gimp program, but I don't recall MB associating Save to Desktop with it. Probably did and then forgot.) MW I chose .gif simply because I could see one in my message list. MW Nonetheless, I don't think it's a program association problem as this is MW about TB! internal protection mechanisms. MB So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable under MB Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy of them and MB put it back afterward. MB What do you think? MW I shouldn't be a problem so long as you know that you are opening images MW only. I'm going to give this a try too. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 22:14 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MB What do you think? I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external viewer...' option in Preferences | General. Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association problem after all. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeBYTknq5PWREYNEQI0xACg90XGgVbH/KI00kS/zkL6vodWevYAoJ+B TI6o9FFV4vcuJBO9FqvEjK/s =VmZR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: MW Do you see the image in one of the tabbed panes; e.g. Clipbrd1.gif? MB No. MW That's does seem rather odd. How about tabs such as Part.txt? (take any MW signed message from me in TBBETA) Oh, I understand your question about image now. Yes, I see Part.txt in your signed message in tbbeta. And, for example, I see: Wrenfamilygroup.jpg 69,102 bytes in the button for one of the attachments--the same as I see in a mouseover of the attachment icon. Your Clibrd1.gif example confused me. I'm even more dense than usual at this time of day. Sorry. :( MW Also, do you see the following in Options | Preferences | Protection? MW ...snip MB Yes. MW I'm going to look into this a bit more since changing it made no MW difference to my set up. Thank you so much! MW This is from the registry key: MW ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV MB I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there since I MB have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I opened MB everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current MB User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. MW It's in my setup _but_ I did import my registry setting when I rebuild MW XP a few months ago so it could be redundant. I can send you that key if MW you like. Please. It might be worth a try. A reference to that was the only thing I found in the tbudl archives--it was from an exchange in 2000, when someone had blocked TB! from opening attachments and wanted to undo it and forgotten how. snip MW I chose .gif simply because I could see one in my message list. MW Nonetheless, I don't think it's a program association problem as this is MW about TB! internal protection mechanisms. I see. MB So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable under MB Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy of them and MB put it back afterward. MB What do you think? MW I shouldn't be a problem so long as you know that you are opening images MW only. I'm going to give this a try too. Okay, I'll try that. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Mary! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:22 PM, you wrote: MB Hello Martin! MB On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: snip Martin, I'm sorry about this. I had just set up my reply window and I must have hit something--don't know what. The message certainly flew without the dialogue window Send the message? appearing. I wonder if a shortcut key got me into trouble this time. My actual reply should arrive shortly. My apologies for the premature Send. :( -- Best regards Mary Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:30 PM, you wrote: MW I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external MW viewer...' option in Preferences | General. No, that box is unchecked. I did check it, on another poster's suggestion, trying to figure this out. But it made no difference. So I unchecked it. That's how I have had it ever since I got The Bat!, because I thought it was safer. MW Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types MW doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer MW _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for MW an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association MW problem after all. I am using the internal viewer. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 22:30 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external MW viewer...' option in Preferences | General. MW Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types MW doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer MW _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for MW an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association MW problem after all. Okay, I've chosen external image viewer and removed a file association in Windows to see what happens. When I double click on an icon, TB! lets Windows decide how to open the file. However, because there is no association TB! pops up a windows asking what application I should open the file (image) with. Clearly, this isn't quite what you experience but it is similar behaviour. I wonder what would happen if there is an association but it's broken and fails to launch the application? Check what application is associated with .JPG by opening a Windows file manager window and using Tools | Folder Options... | File Types. Select JPG (or JPEG) and see what application opens the file (Change button). There's is likely to be a couple of applications... try changing it to Window Picture and Fax Viewer if that's not set. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeFMzknq5PWREYNEQKk9ACgiLv3Oy7Wh8F0xdtmSI3hLagS1WgAoK8z KA68iAjXakF2zl7P4Jym4ZIe =/hul -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:46 PM, you wrote: MW Select JPG (or JPEG) and see what application opens the file (Change MW button). There's is likely to be a couple of applications... try MW changing it to Window Picture and Fax Viewer if that's not set. Okay, I did that. JPG, JPEG, and JPI (for j peg image) were all associated with Gimp. I must have done that when I first installed Gimp, but I forgot that I had. Anyway, I changed the association to Windows Picture and Fax Viewer. But there is still no response when double-clicking the image icon in The Bat! or choosing Open from the right-click menu of the icon. This happens with the external viewer selected in Options/Preferences/General and with it not selected. (Unchecked box--internal viewer.) The one effect of my file association change in the File manager is that I see the familiar Windows flowerpot icon on my Desktop for the lone jpeg I've left there, instead of the little gray Gimp animal icon. What a drag! I do appreciate all your help. And I can still view all attachments by saving them to Desktop, which is only a couple of extra clicks to do. I've been dragging them from there into my Picture File folder. Well, we have to check out all possibilities if a puzzle is to get solved, don't we? Not that it will guarantee a solution. :) Anyway, :42: and thanks again for all the help this afternoon and always!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 17:16 -0500 (09/06/200423:16 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MB What a drag! I do appreciate all your help. And I can still view all MB attachments by saving them to Desktop, which is only a couple of extra MB clicks to do. I've been dragging them from there into my Picture File MB folder. How disappointing... I thought we were onto something. :-) MB Well, we have to check out all possibilities if a puzzle is to get MB solved, don't we? Not that it will guarantee a solution. :) Anyway, MB :42: and thanks again for all the help this afternoon and always!! Your welcome! Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. I'll call it a day now... it's 11:30 pm here. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeOLzknq5PWREYNEQJi2QCgl+SooPtpyaMrK98y3ck8oD6H+EcAnR5S matTmUKZVhsjC/xMLAauyR2K =1kFz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 5:24 PM, you wrote: MW Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only MW thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current MW set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups MW etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. MW I'll call it a day now... it's 11:30 pm here. Thank you so much, once again. I'll try the re-install. Good night. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
