Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Walking Dead' Finale Beats Network Scripted Shows (Again)

2013-04-03 Thread PGage
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: PGage, to Mark J: Could Walking Dead appear unchanged on broadcast networks? It does not have any nudity, but I guess the violence is pretty graphic (though most of the victims are zombies). It seems like this pill

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon

2013-04-03 Thread PGage
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say, at this point, it is the network who cried wolf. I've ceased having any interest in Leno and Fallon. What does tick me off, however is the move to New York, though not for any reasons provided. When

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon

2013-04-03 Thread PGage
I appreciate your concern for Burbank and the Tonight Show staffers, and I think at this point in US history all of us know at some level the devastating impacts of losing a job. Without minimizing that, the move to NYC will also be a welcome boon to roughly the same number of people, in the same

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon

2013-04-04 Thread PGage
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Letterman discussed things during his desk segment following the first commercial break, and his Top 10 list was Things we'll miss about Jay Leno. Worth a look-see. He also had a few monologue jokes about it, and in

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon

2013-04-04 Thread PGage
, getting it done and taking care of business and congratulations on a nice long run there at the ‘Tonight Show,’ if in fact you’re not coming back.” On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:26 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.comwrote: Letterman

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Roger Ebert

2013-04-04 Thread PGage
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wary of people who claim they knew something before they hit the big time as a point of pride, but Ebert's the card I'd play. I always felt there were two version of Ebert. Ebert 1.0 was everything through about 2006 or

Re: [TV orNotTV] Conan in Atlanta

2013-04-07 Thread PGage
http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-walking-dead-invades The bit can be seen at the link above. I don't see the audience as uncomfortable with the guns-in-a-theater theme (though I think I would have been). I don't know if Coco sweetens - it sounds like there is a fair amount of laughter.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Roger Ebert

2013-04-07 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote: Not that they hardly ever have a rational reason for anything they do, but why? Just guessing, but they don't like his bi-racial marriage, maybe?

Re: [TV orNotTV] Nielsen adapts to track 'TV-free' homes - Arts Entertainment - CBC News

2013-04-08 Thread PGage
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Trevor Tymchuk tre...@afewthings.ca wrote: http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2013/04/08/business-nielsen-ratings.html Some people have had it with TV. They've had enough of the 100-plus channel universe. They don't like timing their lives around network show

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fox threatens to go cable if Aereo is legal

2013-04-09 Thread PGage
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:10 AM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote: I do. And this screams bluff on so many levels, it's not worth taking seriously. This. I suspect the problems with their NFL contract would be enough to make the threat a non-starter. Exactly. Fox signed a 9-year extension with

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Zucker to bring back Crossfire

2013-04-09 Thread PGage
I agree with Kevin that a political conversation show does not have to be a skin-crawling idea, but I also agree that it is extremely unlikely that CNN at this point could ever do a version of that show that does not make your skin crawl. NewsHour has found a way to have a regular segment like

[TV orNotTV] A Baldwin to Take 1:35 slot on NBC?

2013-04-09 Thread PGage
I don't think we have seen this here. Alec, who maybe even Kevin would acknowledge does a pretty good job engaging in interesting conversation on his podcast, in talks to take over Carson Daley's slot. This seems like a good idea to me - though putting this in the 12:35 slot might even be better.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fox threatens to go cable if Aereo is legal

2013-04-09 Thread PGage
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com wrote: And once again, would the NFL and MLB stand for the World Series and the Super Bowl being on cable television? Would Congress stand for it? The NFL would not stand for the Super Bowl, and Congress absolutely would not

Re: [TV orNotTV] A Baldwin to Take 1:35 slot on NBC?

2013-04-09 Thread PGage
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: It was pointed out that the 1:35 AM slot got the same rating no matter what was put there. After Greg Kinnear left Later there were lots of guest

Re: [TV orNotTV] A Baldwin to Take 1:35 slot on NBC?

2013-04-09 Thread PGage
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:31 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it would cost that much - how much do you think he gets paid to do the podcast? This would basically be a television version of the podcast. He

Re: [TV orNotTV] LiLo On Dave

2013-04-10 Thread PGage
I had no idea she was going to be on, and just watched it like I usually do. I agree it was a great interview. I read blogs today that teased their story about this with something like Dave makes Lohan cry. I did not read the body of those articles - I assume when the reader clicks through they

Re: [TV orNotTV] LiLo On Dave

2013-04-10 Thread PGage
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: If I may be the voice of negativity, I'd like to say I thought the whole thing was a train wreck. I'll stipulate both that CBS and WWP are in business to draw viewers and make money and that Lohan has no obligation to air

Re: [TV orNotTV] LiLo On Dave

2013-04-11 Thread PGage
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll take your points, but, to me, it just felt exploitative and unpleasant. She has enough problems that she doesn't need to be flying cross-country to do a talk show. Well, I agree with that last sentence. If she were

Re: [TV orNotTV] Mearth no more

2013-04-13 Thread PGage
My first exposure to him was: The Russians Are Coming, still one of my favorite comedies, which never fails to deliver even after more than a dozen screenings. I saw Mad Mad World before that, but was too young to really have a sense of Winters at that time. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Jim

Re: [TV orNotTV] Not But Will Be TV: Tiger Woods's Non-DQ

2013-04-13 Thread PGage
My understanding is that a viewer did call this in. Someone saw that Tiger had placed the ball I think a couple of yards behind his original mark. The Masters officials reviewed the tape while Tiger was playing the 18th hole, and determined that Tiger had not broken any rule. Based on this Tiger

Re: [TV orNotTV] Not But Will Be TV: Tiger Woods's Non-DQ

2013-04-13 Thread PGage
I guess I don't have to wait till Noon to find out if he will withdraw: http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2013/4/13/4220520/tiger-woods-statement-masters-2013-penalty/in/3984009 Tiger is correct on the merits of the case, but given the tight-ass histrionics of golf, he may regret this decision one

Re: [TV orNotTV] Not But Will Be TV: Tiger Woods's Non-DQ

2013-04-13 Thread PGage
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: (I apologize for briefly turning this into a sports board to the rest of the panel) The problem is that the Rule 33 interpretation is designed for situations where a golfer could not have reasonably known that the rule

Re: [TV orNotTV] Not But Will Be TV: Tiger Woods's Non-DQ

2013-04-14 Thread PGage
I will not prolong the exchange with a detailed argument about the decision not to DQ Tiger. I think though that your own analysis makes most of my main point. Critics of the decision were arguing today that the rules of golf require anyone who submits an inaccurate scorecard to be DQ'd, and that

Re: [TV orNotTV] Ken Tucker in Grantland on Late Night

2013-04-14 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:11 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9097994/assessing-state-late-night-television-shows-turbulent-week (SNIP) Tucker seems to subscribe to the same notion that a talk show host must be able to handle the serious with

Re: [TV orNotTV] Not But Will Be TV: Tiger Woods's Non-DQ

2013-04-14 Thread PGage
Someone emailed me offline (not Joe) and asked me to clarify something in my last post in this thread. I have debated for a while whether I should do the same here online. At first I was disinclined to, since I don't think I wrote anything to suggest what was being read into my post, but on

Re: [TV orNotTV] Notable in its absence

2013-04-15 Thread PGage
n Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: Near the end of the article Jeffrey McCall expressed a reservation over giving Michaels control over so much time during the programming week. I agree but not for the same reason. Michaels has his own vision of what funny TV

Re: [TV orNotTV] SportsTV: The Apocalypse Is Nigh

2013-04-17 Thread PGage
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Not only did the New York Yankees play Sweet Caroline after the third in their game against Arizona (as a few Major League Baseball parks did yesterday) in a show of support for the city, and not only did they create and

[TV orNotTV] FCC Goes Soft on Obscenity (Thanks a lot Obama)

2013-04-21 Thread PGage
David Ortiz, AKA Big Poppy and the longest tenured uniformed member of the Boston Red Sox, flung a defiant F-Bomb during opening ceremonies at Fenway yesterday (This is our fucking city...): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6JDF1Prrqk Julius Genachowski, Chair of the FCC, tweeted: “David Ortiz

Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC Goes Soft on Obscenity (Thanks a lot Obama)

2013-04-21 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote: On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:31 AM, PGage wrote: David Ortiz, AKA Big Poppy... That's Big Papi, i.e., Spanish slang for daddy. Sorry about that - I am a confirmed Boston sports team hater, and that is how I usually write

Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC Goes Soft on Obscenity (Thanks a lot Obama)

2013-04-21 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Semi related to this thread was that the evening if the standoff in the boat CNN was on at last a ten second delay. I've made my thoughts known about time-delaying the news. It will always annoy me. Fortunately, I was

Re: [TV orNotTV] The worst way to start your news anchor career

2013-04-22 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: While these things make for entertaining bloopers, the idea that we don't allow anchors to use grown up language for big people stuns me. We're in 2013 and people on TV have to adhere to the standards of the 1940s. Is

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Deal Me Out Tontine Loses Another Member

2013-04-23 Thread PGage
Really great post Joe. Thanks. I remember that episode well also. Didn't they have subsequent callbacks to the poker game in subsequent episodes (though not with the same structure)? Arbus was wonderful in that role - and I suppose his voice has always been one of those in the back of my mind as

Re: [TV orNotTV] The worst way to start your news anchor career

2013-04-24 Thread PGage
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Deadspin has the video from Today Hour 3, featuring a pep talk from no other than Tom Brokaw. Turns out that not only did *neither* of the on-air talent have IFBs (?!?), but the broadcast started 30 seconds early (?!?!?),

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Zucker to bring back Crossfire

2013-04-24 Thread PGage
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: Back on April 9th, PGage replied to Greg Diener and moi: I agree with Kevin that a political conversation show does not have to be a skin-crawling idea, but I also agree that it is extremely unlikely that CNN

Re: [TV orNotTV] The worst way to start your news anchor career

2013-04-24 Thread PGage
You may not be in error - the gang seemed to really like him, and maybe they had him back for the Kathy Lee Hour? On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies for the error. On Apr 24, 2013, at 5:08 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 24

Re: [TV orNotTV] re: Last night's Colbert Report

2013-04-26 Thread PGage
I have not seen the ep yet either (I am on the road this week). But I do not recall any athlete doing this. If it was not done specifically as a gag in cohoots with Colbert, then it would rub me the wrong way too. Athletes do commonly appear on sports radio and television interview shows with

Re: [TV orNotTV] re: Last night's Colbert Report

2013-04-26 Thread PGage
appear on the show if she wore the logo, than my second favorite Danica needs new handlers. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:15 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: I have not seen the ep yet either (I am on the road this week). But I do not recall any athlete doing this. If it was not done

Re: [TV orNotTV] New open for Late Show

2013-04-26 Thread PGage
A partially buried lead in this thread about Late Show this week is his Stooge of the Night segment (I have seen two shows this week, and am assuming he has been doing it all week). I assume he is being criticized for this, both by gun control opponents and those who think that network talk shows

Re: [TV orNotTV] New open for Late Show

2013-04-26 Thread PGage
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Diner bwayst...@gmail.com wrote: He *is* being criticized for it on right-wing websites and blogs. Google letterman stooge of the night and you'll get hits from Breitbart.com, Fox Nation, and something called survivalistboards.com (I assume the name tells

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Last night's Colbert Report

2013-04-26 Thread PGage
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.comwrote: I’ll agree about Winnie Cooper. ** ** But I find Ms. Patrick one of the most uninteresting people on the face of this Earth. The things that make her interesting are probably not targeted to your demo.

Re: [TV orNotTV] House of Nerds

2013-04-28 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote: So, what **was** the first graphic gag? Obama playing golf on some kind of retirement magazine. I saw an image of it earlier but can not find one to link to now. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received

Re: [TV orNotTV] House of Nerds

2013-04-28 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:45 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote: So, what **was** the first graphic gag? Obama playing golf on some kind of retirement magazine. I saw an image of it earlier but can not find one to link to now

Re: [TV orNotTV] House of Nerds

2013-04-28 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: The House of Cards spoof moved faster than the Netflix series. http://youtu.be/CXgq238dil0 And Conan did alright. I still love it when politicians don't allow themselves to laugh at a joke somebody somewhere sometime

Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: going off-the-grid

2013-04-28 Thread PGage
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I have stuff I must do. Not sure how long it will all take. Those of you who are friends on my Facebook know some of the details. I'm going to be offline for a while, maybe days, maybe weeks, maybe longer, while I

[TV orNotTV] Unreliable Source

2013-05-03 Thread PGage
Well, I gave in and just used the headline from the actual piece linked here, since it is both so obvious and apt: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/howard-kurtz-daily-beast-90881.html Howard Kurtz's relationship with the Daily Beast ended Thursday (not quite a firing, but one senses it was a

Re: [TV orNotTV] Unreliable Source

2013-05-03 Thread PGage
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I gave in and just used the headline from the actual piece linked here, since it is both so obvious and apt: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/howard-kurtz-daily-beast-90881.html Howard Kurtz's relationship

Re: [TV orNotTV] Unreliable Source

2013-05-05 Thread PGage
letting Kurtz off the hook, I do give CNN credit for the way they handled it this morning, and I think the response of putting him on a very short leash is at least defendable. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Season's Damage So Far (Annotated)

2013-05-07 Thread PGage
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: ABC would have been better off running Splash The Taste as summer series. Splash, in particular, seems like a good companion show for Wipeout, and The Taste was a serviceable food variant of The Voice, albeit with

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Season's Damage So Far (Annotated)

2013-05-07 Thread PGage
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com wrote: As we're days away from upfronts, here's how last season went, according to The Wrap: http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/network-upfronts-2013-scorecard-so-far-89666 If I were a television critic, I think I would

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Mens Basketball Tourney Broadcast Changes: TBS Involved Next Year

2013-05-07 Thread PGage
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:14 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not really sure I get the logic behind this, unless Turner was just able to pony up the extra scratch to warrant the swap. The national semis air on Saturday, which is essentially prime time dead air on CBS...so

Re: [TV orNotTV] TNT Dumps 'Southland'

2013-05-11 Thread PGage
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote: The writing had been on the wall for a while. Most of the leads had pilots lined up before the season even finished filming and the final episode took all of the remaining plot arcs and (other than the cliffhanger) the

[TV orNotTV] Scott Pelley Spanks Himself (and Others)

2013-05-11 Thread PGage
Accepting the Fred Friendly First Amendment Award, one of the best current TV journalists makes some on-the-nose, harsh, if obvious criticisms of his profession: http://news.yahoo.com/cbs-anchor-pelley-journalisms-house-fire-195955949.html This has been a bad few months for journalism...We're

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Rock Center' Dead

2013-05-12 Thread PGage
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom Wolper Did anyone here ever watch it? *raises hand* The story line-ups were quintessentially news-magazine in style: heavy stuff up front, lighter stuff in the middle, and

[TV orNotTV] NBC Makes It Official: Dave to Conan to Jimmy to Seth

2013-05-12 Thread PGage
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/business/media/seth-meyers-to-succeed-fallon-on-late-night.html?hp_r=0 Main surprise for me is they will keep it in NYC - with Tonight, Late Night and Saturday Night all taping at 30 Rock, which seems to only make things easier and easier for the other Jimmy...

Re: [TV orNotTV] Barbara Walters retiring in 2014

2013-05-12 Thread PGage
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote: The article uses the phrase retiring from journalism, but then implies that she's giving up her appearances on The View, which is pretty far from journalism. I can agree with your final phrase, but only if we can change it

Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix Bluths the Upfronts

2013-05-13 Thread PGage
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: Outside Radio City this morning while NBC's upfront is going on: A Bluth's Original Frozen Banana stand has been put up by Netflix to promote the Arrested Development continuation--they will take the stand across the

[TV orNotTV] Dr. Joyce Brothers Dead at 85

2013-05-13 Thread PGage
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/13/joyce-brothers-dead/2156805/ Wikipedia reports that she was the 9th most frequent guest on Carson's Tonight Show. She was a real psychologist, with a degree from Columbia, and licensed in New York (

Re: [TV orNotTV] 2013-14 Upfront haiku: NBC

2013-05-13 Thread PGage
Brad... First, like I'm sure everyone else here, I get a warm and sad smile just seeing this form again each spring - so thanks for that. But I particularly like these NBC ones. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: ** *The Blacklist (M 10p)* Most-wanted

Re: [TV orNotTV] Gandolfini pilot slated by HBO

2013-05-13 Thread PGage
So, I have not followed all of these links, but your summary raises the question of Murder One influences - is that addressed in any of the discussions of Criminal Justice? On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: Back in September, I wrote: Nellie

Re: [TV orNotTV] Xtina and Cee-Lo Coming Back to 'Voice' in Fall

2013-05-14 Thread PGage
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: Christina Aguilera is a cinch to reclaim her spinning chair in September and Cee-Lo Green and his menagerie are almost certain to return--the Usher and Shakira fans are whining, whining, whining:

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Half-TV: Why JJ Abrams gave up on Trek

2013-05-19 Thread PGage
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: So one guy's plan to bilk suckers out of millions was thwarted by a corporation's desire to bilk suckers out of millions? Color me uninterested. Or to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Major Layoffs at ESPN?

2013-05-22 Thread PGage
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: Granted, Deadspin isn't the most impartial source, but they claim that a three-digit number of employees are being laid off from the Worldwide Leader as mandated by Disney, presumably to leverage from higher and more

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Half-TV: Why JJ Abrams gave up on Trek

2013-05-24 Thread PGage
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: I, too, was bilked out of my hard-earned dough for the 3D/IMAX presentation and couldn't disagree more about his creating a successful film adaptation of Star Trek. No Trekkie I, but to my untrained eye, the movies have

Re: [TV orNotTV] Tig Natoro on Conan

2013-05-24 Thread PGage
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:24 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Hell, *I* was uncomfortable about the neckline on Alice Eve's dress, though at the time I didn't (consciously?) pick up on how uncomfortable she may have been. I guess Hollywood fashion laws made it impossible for her

Re: [TV orNotTV] Tig Natoro on Conan

2013-05-25 Thread PGage
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote: I tend to agree that it was more because the piece wasn't funny (and I say that as someone who did buy and like her breakthrough routine around her cancer). If the laughs had been much bigger it would have felt like

Re: [TV orNotTV] A quick note on F1 on TV

2013-05-26 Thread PGage
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: At my brother in law's house, he recorded the Monaco GP. First I saw the pre-race show. I said to him, They're on NBCSN? On NBC. The network? Yep. And they're showing the pre-race show? I guess. Then they cut to Leigh,

Re: [TV orNotTV] A quick note on F1 on TV

2013-05-26 Thread PGage
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: On May 26, 2013, at 10:39 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you 100% about NBC Sports being the best. And that's why, when NBC (the network) butchers the Olympics, there's a little extra fury: you know NBC

Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeannie costume still fits Eden...

2013-05-27 Thread PGage
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: ...78 years young, at an annual AIDS-charity event in Vienna... NY Daily Newshttp://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/dream-jeannie-actress-plays-fight-aids-wink-nod-article-1.1355087?localLinksEnabled=false

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: A quick note on F1 on TV

2013-05-28 Thread PGage
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: But Coyle's production method is infinitely better than anything Fox has ever done on a baseball broadcast. Fox treats the game itself as secondary to whatever they want to do in the broadcast (in-game coaching interviews

Re: [TV orNotTV] Arrested not helping Netflix stock

2013-05-29 Thread PGage
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: The bad press for the *en masse* release of the fourth season had a little to do with it, tho NFLX is still north of $200.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Arrested not helping Netflix stock

2013-05-29 Thread PGage
n Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv wrote: On May 29, 2013, at 2:57 PM, PGage wrote: I have been inhibiting the inclination to post on AD4 to avoid spoilers. I am only up to episode

Re: [TV orNotTV] Matt Smith leaving Who after Christmas special

2013-06-01 Thread PGage
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 June 2013 21:26, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: David Lynch There are rumo(u)rs circulating that show runner Steven Moffat had made enemies of several people on the set,

Re: [TV orNotTV] Matt Smith leaving Who after Christmas special

2013-06-01 Thread PGage
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I'll probably open up a can of worms by suggesting this, but if memory serves (and I admit I'm not a large Who fan), the previous Doctors haven't exactly gone onto bigger and better things, have they? I've seen them in

Re: [TV orNotTV] Those were the days. RIP Jean Stapleton.

2013-06-02 Thread PGage
Sorry to hear this news - like most others I was a big fan of her work on AITF. But I must admit I would have lost $20 on her in a Dead-or-Not-Dead bet before yesterday... On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.comwrote: ** **

[TV orNotTV] MSNBC President: News is Not Our Thing

2013-06-03 Thread PGage
Phil Griffin, the President of MSNBC, explained their recent ratings drop (and CNN's ratings rise) by noting that breaking news is not our brand. http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbcs-phil-griffin-were-not-the-place-for-breaking-news_b182041 This is an interesting marketing strategy: If you

Re: [TV orNotTV] Nikki Finke OUT at Deadline

2013-06-03 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: She'd been sending emails to her superior, Jay Penske, saying I'm going to f**k you, an anonymous exec told TheWrap's Sharon

Re: [TV orNotTV] Bada Bing! The Sopranos Best Written Series Ever!

2013-06-03 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Ron Casalotti roncasalo...@gmail.comwrote: Or so says the Writers Guild of America: - *Top Ten* Rank Series Title Network Writer(s)* 1 The Sopranos HBO Created by David Chase 2 Seinfeld NBC Created by Larry David Jerry Seinfeld 3 The Twilight Zone (1959)

Re: [TV orNotTV] Olby back, in a sports role

2013-06-05 Thread PGage
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: TheWraphttp://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/keith-olbermann-host-tbs-mlb-postseason-coverage-95401: TBS hired him as a studio face for its postseason baseball. Cal Ripken won't be alongside him... not personal, Turner

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Idol', 'X Factor' Like Sports?

2013-06-06 Thread PGage
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Besides: it's time the non-sports fans get to experience the living hell us sports fans have endured. Like... -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to

[TV orNotTV] Gallup Sucks - and Now Admits It

2013-06-07 Thread PGage
http://www.nationaljournal.com/blogs/hotlineoncall/2013/06/gallup-post-mortem-leads-to-polling-changes-04 Nobody not named Romney lost bigger last November than the Gallup Poll. They got their ass kicked by the results of the election, which they missed on badly - bigger than any other reputable

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Stewart-Oliver Transition

2013-06-07 Thread PGage
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: As Jon Stewart temporarily leaves TDS to try out being a film director, here's how John Oliver assumed the host position last night--right at the Moment of Zen:

Re: [TV orNotTV] Gallup Sucks - and Now Admits It

2013-06-09 Thread PGage
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Greg Diener skykid3...@yahoo.com wrote: During the election the three things I kept a watchful eye on were Nate Silver's blog, Sam Wang's calculation at Princeton and the Rand Presidential Poll. (SNIP) And it wasn't just the right wingers that were wrong, the

Re: [TV orNotTV] Gallup Sucks - and Now Admits It

2013-06-10 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:06 AM, djconner djcon...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, June 10, 2013 1:24:24 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote: I don't disagree with any of this, but I think it is important to underline again that for the most part the problem with the Gallup poll was not the crass

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-10 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: I over-generalized with the word owns. Your interpretation is correct. My core question is which of these three statements is the most accurate: A. There's one contract that covers Dave and WWP, and it runs through 2014. B.

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-11 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote: A…and you were doing so well, until you fell into the trap halfway through your message where you subconsciously switched from Late Show to Late Night. J I blame the pinheads at GE for that... -- -- TV or Not TV

Re: [TV orNotTV] Dr Drew: I'm not an exploiter

2013-06-11 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: Inside a piece about his multi-show life in the NY Timeshttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/fashion/dr-drew-pinsky-physician-and-media-star.html?pagewanted=all_r=1;: When former clients e.g. Mindy McCready died, Laura

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-11 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: This is outstanding. Thank you. Here's my one follow-up. Assume that Host Dave decides to retire (at the end of whatever contract that might be) and WWP and CBS agrees to continue their deal. Has Dave ever indicated that

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-11 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Here I disagree, because the brand is Dave and not The Late Show as evidenced by the fact that its been almost 20 years now and everyone still slips occasionally and calls it Late Night. The Tonight Show was a brand. The

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon'

2013-06-11 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: Yep, not with. Just like Carson. Oh yeah, one of Fallon Late Night's writers from the beginning, Amy Ozols, is the showrunner. Cue Leno apologists' comments on the link in 3..2...:

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-12 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:43 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: (SNIP)That brings us back to the Late Show - assuming Ferguson doesn't want 11:35, there isn't another experienced late night host with established material ready to sit in Dave's chair. Oliver brings experience in

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-12 Thread PGage
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:38 AM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote: Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't SCG get first dibs/right of first refusal at 11:35 per his most recent contract? (I know Craig has said he doesn't WANT 11:35, but technically he's got the right to it.) My recollection

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Post-Dave Late Show (from The NBC Stars' Revenge)

2013-06-12 Thread PGage
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.comwrote: At this point, Late Night and Tonight are names, not franchises. No one is more inclined to tune into Tonight regardless of the host. There was little resemblance to Leno Tonight and O'Brien Tonight and Fallon Tonight

Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix dropping streaming from DVD-only plans

2013-06-14 Thread PGage
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: I've mentioned this on the list before, but my DVD-only Netflix plan allowed for 5 hours of streaming a month (which I've barely used). I received a notice from Netflix earlier today that it will be phased out effective

Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix dropping streaming from DVD-only plans

2013-06-14 Thread PGage
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: I think this may have come up here before, but canistream.it allows you to look up movies and TV shows and see where you can watch them, including the big 3 mentioned below. That is a helpful site - but I at least have not

Re: [TV orNotTV] Layoffs at NewsHour. Is future in doubt?

2013-06-15 Thread PGage
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Steve Timko steveti...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/business/media/venerable-format-of-newshour-struggles-with-new-era-of-media.html?pagewanted=all_r=0 I'm surprised nobody mentioned that the PBS NewsHour announced layoffs and it

Re: [TV orNotTV] HalfTV: Spielberg, Lucas' doom-and-gloom scenario for film

2013-06-15 Thread PGage
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Ed Dravecky drave...@gmail.com wrote: Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: Short version: Most movies will go straight to video, theaters will be limited to big blockbusters and have to charge closer-to-live-sports prices... Lucas: Going to the

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: HalfTV: Spielberg, Lucas' doom-and-gloom scenario for film

2013-06-16 Thread PGage
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:24 AM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote: Prices were fairly stable from 1934 to 1960, with an average ticket price over those 27 years of $4.18. They did increase rapidly from $3.68 in 1947 to $5.26 in 1953; I am assuming this bump is due to the initial reaction to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Where's Stephen?

2013-06-17 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: While The Colbert Report website shows a new episode, Comedy Central and Sue's listings indicate a repeat. This would be the second consecutive show where repeats were inserted last minute. I have *no* information as

Re: [TV orNotTV] Where's Stephen?

2013-06-17 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:54 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: While The Colbert Report website shows a new episode, Comedy Central and Sue's listings indicate a repeat. This would be the second consecutive show where

Re: [TV orNotTV] Where's Stephen?

2013-06-17 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Kevin and PGage. I managed to miss this notice (HuffPo allergies, I suppose). The relative lack of press seems consistent with the tendency of Stephen not to talk much about family when they're not running

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