[vchkpw] Re: smtp-auth problem

2005-07-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello List, On Monday, July 4, 2005 at 11:47:36 PM patrick wrote: I'm using qmail and vpopmail and just patched up with smtp-auth, Which SMTP-AUTH-patch? I'm using /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw in my ~/qmail-smtpd/run-script... Please post complete run script because parameter order matters.

AW: [vchkpw] Re: smtp-auth problem

2005-07-05 Thread patrick_gehm
Hello List, On Monday, July 4, 2005 at 11:47:36 PM patrick wrote: I'm using qmail and vpopmail and just patched up with smtp-auth, Which SMTP-AUTH-patch? I'm using Version 0.31 I'm using /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw in my ~/qmail-smtpd/run-script... Please post complete run script because

[vchkpw] Re: smtp-auth problem

2005-07-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello List, On Tuesday, July 5, 2005 at 8:50:01 AM patrick wrote: I'm using qmail and vpopmail and just patched up with smtp-auth, Which SMTP-AUTH-patch? I'm using Version 0.31 From which source exactly? What's the complete download URL you used to get this patch? exec

AW: [vchkpw] Re: smtp-auth problem

2005-07-05 Thread patrick_gehm
Hello List, On Tuesday, July 5, 2005 at 8:50:01 AM patrick wrote: I'm using qmail and vpopmail and just patched up with smtp-auth, Which SMTP-AUTH-patch? I'm using Version 0.31 From which source exactly? What's the complete download URL you used to get this patch?

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Bruno Negrão
Guys, let me explain why I'm asking this. My boss (not me) has doubts about Qmail. He wants me to search for new mailservers of mail solutions like, for example, outsourcing the mail function. So I'm asking this now to have more arguments to convince him to stay with Qmail. My boss (and me)

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread tonix (Antonio Nati)
There are a lot of us here using qmail and able to give you an e-mail service. So you can continue to use qmail and your boss will have an outsourced service! Ciao, Tonino At 15.29 05/07/2005, you wrote: Guys, let me explain why I'm asking this. My boss (not me) has doubts about Qmail. He

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread James McMillan
Haha, Let the bidding begin. tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: There are a lot of us here using qmail and able to give you an e-mail service. So you can continue to use qmail and your boss will have an outsourced service! Ciao, Tonino At 15.29 05/07/2005, you wrote: Guys, let me explain

[vchkpw] Re: smtp-auth problem

2005-07-05 Thread patrick_gehm
Hello List again, How do I need to chmod /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw to use it the right way with qmail smtp-auth-patched? Any other vpopmail-things i need to take care of in this case? Is there way to tell smtp to control every incoming mail with the vchkpw? How does tcp.smtp.cdb needs to look

[vchkpw] smtp after pop

2005-07-05 Thread patrick_gehm
by the way: does anyone know a good howto to use smtp after pop with vpopmail? regards Patrick Gehm

Re: [vchkpw] smtp after pop

2005-07-05 Thread Bernd
Since you are using a .de e-mail address i suppose that you speak german :-) If so, take a look at pofo.de. Olli wrote a howto for FreeBSD including a (short) smtp-after-pop-hack section. mfg Bernd On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 19:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way: does anyone know a good

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
At 07:29 AM 7/5/2005, Bruno Negrão wrote: Guys, let me explain why I'm asking this. My boss (not me) has doubts about Qmail. He wants me to search for new mailservers of mail solutions like, for example, outsourcing the mail function. does your boss have a rationale for his doubts, or are

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Bruno Negrão
does your boss have a rationale for his doubts, or are they based upon a 'gut' feeling? usually doubts arise based upon shortcomings. what shortcoming does your boss see in qmail (note, small 'q' - it is not Qmail). OK. He wants to know if there is a tendency on the market for some other

Re: [vchkpw] smtp after pop

2005-07-05 Thread GoodnGo.de \(R\) Zentrale
Hello Pat, phps use pop before smtp see bill shupp´s qmail toaster. Oliver - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: [vchkpw] smtp after pop by the way: does anyone know a good howto to use smtp after pop with

RE: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Listas barbarojo
That's right. Most of the GNU/linux distributors are using sendmail but I can assure you that the mailserver most robust, efficient and secure is by far qmail. Sendmail has been out there for a long time and too many security bugs have been found. They have been fixed though. Qmail has been

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:05:22 -0300 Bruno Negrão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does your boss have a rationale for his doubts, or are they based upon a 'gut' feeling? usually doubts arise based upon shortcomings. what shortcoming does your boss see in qmail (note, small 'q' - it is not Qmail).

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 14:18, Listas barbarojo wrote: It has been developed in a modular way that makes it extreamly easy to add functionality to it and much more. Wrong. I has been developed in such a way that functionality has to be added in the form of patches, and it is suffering

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread dballantyne
I cannot name any company name but I used to work for a large telecommunications provider. They are world leader for supplying mobile operators with core network solutions like SMS and WAP. While designing their MMS solution they had to choose an MTA to handle all the email involved in MMS. Of all

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Adi Pircalabu
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:18:37 -0300 Listas barbarojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why most of the distributors do not include qmail Please visit http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html to find out why there are no qmail packages built. No licensing war here, please :) Thank you -- Adi

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 14:18, Listas barbarojo wrote: Most of the GNU/linux distributors are using sendmail but I can assure you that the mailserver most robust, efficient and secure is by far qmail. This is simply not true anymore. It was true in 1997, and maybe right up to 1999 (I'll

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, July 5 at 03:05 PM, quoth Bruno Negrão: does your boss have a rationale for his doubts, or are they based upon a 'gut' feeling? usually doubts arise based upon shortcomings. what shortcoming does your boss see in qmail (note, small 'q' - it is not Qmail). OK. He wants to know if

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Jaymer
ok, so that gives his boss valid reasons to question getting in bed with qmail. fine, sod off djb... what else is out there thats worth using? jaymer... --- Adi Pircalabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:18:37 -0300 Listas barbarojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Ames
- Original Message - From: Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian (and Ubuntu - based on Debian) and FreeBSD all use Exim by default. I'm not sure about any Linux distros other than Debian. FreeBSD ships sendmail (8.13.4 in the latest releases) by default. Not Exim. -steve

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, July 5 at 02:37 PM, quoth Steve Cole: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 14:18, Listas barbarojo wrote: It has been developed in a modular way that makes it extreamly easy to add functionality to it and much more. Wrong. I has been developed in such a way that functionality has to be

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:51:49 -0500 Steve Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian (and Ubuntu - based on Debian) and FreeBSD all use Exim by default. I'm not sure about any Linux distros other than Debian. FreeBSD ships sendmail

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Chris Godwin
dude, yahoo uses qmail, nuff said! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail? I cannot name any company name but I used to work for a large telecommunications provider. They

Re: [vchkpw] Re: smtp-auth problem

2005-07-05 Thread Erwin Hoffmann
Hi Patrick, pls. read: http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/smtpauth.html regards. --eh. At 19:18 05.07.2005 +0200, you wrote: Hello List again, How do I need to chmod /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw to use it the right way with qmail smtp-auth-patched? Any other vpopmail-things i need to take care of in

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 15:13, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Old? Yes. Hard to use without patches? Eh, I think netqmail has addressed that problem. Don't quote problem. It has real problems. errno.h is a nice start. netqmail is at best a hacked-together solution for a small set of problems. It

[vchkpw] qsheff 1.0

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
In passing, qsheff version 1.0 was released. This is the best solution for qmail spam and virus protection I've yet seen for qmail, and in my testing it seems less buggy than most. http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/ enderunix has a reputation for building efficient useful software. I haven't

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread James McMillan
Eh, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the question like; Why should I use qmail? and not Why shouldn't I use qmail? Just trying to point us back in the right direction. Steve Cole wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 15:13, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Old? Yes. Hard to use without patches? Eh, I

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:20, James McMillan wrote: Why should I use qmail? Then, the answer is probably: If you're already using it, and it's adequate or too costly to switch. These days, that pretty much sums it up. -- Cheers, Steve |President Systems Administrator, Kingston

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Ken Jones
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 1:05 pm, Bruno Negrão wrote: does your boss have a rationale for his doubts, or are they based upon a 'gut' feeling? usually doubts arise based upon shortcomings. what shortcoming does your boss see in qmail (note, small 'q' - it is not Qmail). OK. He wants to know if

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:28, Ken Jones wrote: We like qmail for many reasons, mostly because it is efficent and it never breaks. I've had it stop running enough times that I run /etc/init.d/qmailq start every hour, just so that I can be sure it will continue (we get over 500K mail per day,

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread dballantyne
Maybe you have some other issues... On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:28, Ken Jones wrote: We like qmail for many reasons, mostly because it is efficent and it never breaks. I've had it stop running enough times that I run /etc/init.d/qmailq start every hour, just so that I can be sure it

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you have some other issues... I'm sure that's it. Probably the same issue on Solaris 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, Linux 2.0, 2.4, 2.6, FreeBSD 4.1, 4.3, and SCO. After all, the symptoms are the same... qmail-send dies. I'm

[vchkpw] Re: smtp-auth problem

2005-07-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther
On Tuesday, July 5, 2005 at 10:35:30 AM patrick wrote: From which source exactly? What's the complete download URL you used to get this patch? http://members.elysium.pl/brush/qmail-smtpd-auth/dist/qmail-smtpd-auth-0.31.tar.gz OK, than parameters should be OK. Well, I did not compile vpopmail

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
At 01:37 PM 7/5/2005, Steve Cole wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you have some other issues... I'm sure that's it. Probably the same issue on Solaris 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, Linux 2.0, 2.4, 2.6, FreeBSD 4.1, 4.3, and SCO. After all, the

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:45, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: yes, this is on high volume servers (national ISP infrastructure). i won't speculate where the problem actually lies. That should be obvious. I agree. It should be. -- Cheers, Steve |President Systems Administrator, Kingston

[vchkpw] Re: smtp after pop

2005-07-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello List, On Tuesday, July 5, 2005 at 7:24:19 PM patrick wrote: by the way: does anyone know a good howto to use smtp after pop with vpopmail? regards That's exactly 'roaming users' feature of vpopmail. Ask your provider if the pre-installed vpopmail was compiled enabling this feature, if

Re: [vchkpw] Re: smtp after pop

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:50, Peter Palmreuther wrote: Hello List, On Tuesday, July 5, 2005 at 7:24:19 PM patrick wrote: by the way: does anyone know a good howto to use smtp after pop with vpopmail? regards That's exactly 'roaming users' feature of vpopmail. Yes. Just so everyone is

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Matt Brookings
Steve Cole wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 16:45, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: yes, this is on high volume servers (national ISP infrastructure). i won't speculate where the problem actually lies. That should be obvious. I agree. It should be. Yes. I've configured qmail on many

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Bruno Negrão
Hi everybody, Thank you very much for the info. Let me tell more info about us. We already use Qmail in our 6 mailservers for 4 years. I installed all of them. I even wrote http://www.qmailwiki.org/Simscan/Related_Docs/Simscan_ClamAV_Chkuser_Installation_Guide What means I'm used to the

[vchkpw] New public key

2005-07-05 Thread Matt Brookings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Be advised, my previous public key has expired. Below is my new one. Public key for 0x87361146B7B54216 - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBELK+dIRBAC0okiXPmTsEvTKE8Y23OtaJlMiWFj6IpUxOhUN80+xLd4M8iry

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Alex Borges
So hollistic has this internet of humans has become. I was actually trying to research how to make vpopmail work with postfix because i HATE the way (or lack thereoff) we have in qmail to put an extra email in each email sent (like a disclaimer or non disclosure text in each email). It seems

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, July 5 at 06:19 PM, quoth Bruno Negrão: 3) We don't have personnel and don't intend to dedicade C programmers to develop patches for qmail by ourselves. Out of curiosity, how frequently do you find the need to patch qmail? I would have thought it was a decide what it needs to do,

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Alexander Gruber
Same to me! Qmail has been a great piece of software in the past but its definitly to old in the meanwhile an I hate doing all the patch stuff to get an almost up to date smtp-server. But as far as i know the only way to integrate it with postfix is a qmail backend :-( So I think i have to

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 17:19, Bruno Negrão wrote: What's bad on inter7 tools? For example, my boss thinks Sqwebmail is ugly, and it really is. But, IMP is a pain in the ass to set it up. We substituted Sqwebmail to IMP, but when I have to update IMP I almost break down and cry. Sqwebmail is

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 17:43, Alex Borges wrote: So, where can i find the documents to move my vpopmail install from qmail to postfix? I haven't done it. Too many problems and risks for me. But Google probably has the answer to that. -- Cheers, Steve |President Systems

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Bruno Negrão
I don't understand about licensing, but I researching on Qmail-ldap, I heard it is licensed under BSD which is DFSG-free - having this licensing, could it be shipped with the distributions? Do you have some opinion on Qmail-ldap? Mmm, not exactly. Qmail-ldap is based on qmail (as I understand,

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Steve Cole
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 17:45, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Ahh... well, don't get too anxious for people to drop their MS Outlooks. I've yet to see a webmail that provides the speed and convenience (and offline access) that a good client-side mail browser can (not that I'm defending MS Outlook or

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Billy Newsom
Bruno Negrão wrote: Hi everybody, Thank you very much for the info. Let me tell more info about us. We already use Qmail in our 6 mailservers for 4 years. I installed all of them. I even wrote http://www.qmailwiki.org/Simscan/Related_Docs/Simscan_ClamAV_Chkuser_Installation_Guide What

Re: [vchkpw] Re: smtp after pop

2005-07-05 Thread Ronaldo Chan
Hi List, On my personal experience i use the combination of stock qmail + spamcontrol + vpopmail + eMail Messaging Policy Framework (eMPF) comes with inter7.com. spamcontrol can be found at http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/spamcontrol.html for me it has everything you need and i think the

Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Payal Rathod
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 04:33:25PM -0400, Steve Cole wrote: I've had it stop running enough times that I run /etc/init.d/qmailq start every hour, just so that I can be sure it will continue (we get over 500K mail per day, and queues infuriate users). It only quits maybe once a month or so,

RE: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail?

2005-07-05 Thread Listas barbarojo
Amen -Original Message- From: Payal Rathod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:27 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Why does Inter7 opt Qmail? On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 04:33:25PM -0400, Steve Cole wrote: I've had it stop running enough times that I

[vchkpw] vdeldomain issue

2005-07-05 Thread Pablo Medina
Hi all. Hope someone can help me I am running a qmail/vpopmail/maildrop installation in a mail box. Yesterday the box stopped receiving mail. All mail was rejected with the error: 421 unable to read controls After a quick search in the net i solved it chmodding /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts.