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2013-03-02 Thread Krister Ekstrom
2 mar 2013 kl. 01:38 skrev Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com: John, right. As of now, the sendero app will work in the U.S.. I think Mike said that the UK was next on their list. And this, dear scandinavian users, means that if we're extremely lucky we will see this app in our neck of the woods

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2013-03-02 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I hope they give us the option of having the maps on the phone eventually. On 2/28/13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Does the Apple app store let companies provice demos? I didn't think so. The Mac store doesn't. And the maps are definitely not stored on the device. All in the cloud.

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2013-03-01 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Mary, I don't think I was comparing the app, at least that wasn't my intention. As I stated in my message, I was really impressed with what I heard. My negative comment was related to APH's potential commitment to improve this app. I purchased their Checkbook program and it was one

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2013-03-01 Thread john gallagher
hi mary this will work only in the usa though not in the uk yet is that right. thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this

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2013-03-01 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Mary, The key question I would ask is, what map source is APH using? some maps cost less, others cost more… depends on the source. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS,

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2013-03-01 Thread Rose Combs
] On Behalf Of Charles Dean Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred dollars. Considering

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2013-03-01 Thread Mary Otten
John, right. As of now, the sendero app will work in the U.S.. I think Mike said that the UK was next on their list. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit

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2013-03-01 Thread Mary Otten
Neal, APH is using Navteq, same as SEndero. Sendero is also using an open source map, and APH uses google places for pois when you have a connection to the network. So both have Navteq, with aph having it on the device and Sendero having it in the cloud. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Fanus
Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Christopher and Mark, You are correct, Christopher, Garmin has no reason why they should engage in such a partnership, in fact, they would never do so since they would have to give

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2013-02-28 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM

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2013-02-28 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Mark, You assume that they, Sendero, did not already approach the likes of Navigon et al, with a view to doing just that… Perhaps they did, perhaps they did not… perhaps they did and the mainstream partners were not interested. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter

The affordability of apps, was: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jimmy, I completely sympathize with you, my girl-friend is from the Philippines and she and her family of 5 people have to get buy in one month on what a normal person in North America and most European countries earn in 1 or 2 days. People here often have no clue how well they are off,

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2013-02-28 Thread Crystal French
. Crystal From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much

RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Neal Ewers
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wish the people replying to these posts would read the information before they post. According to the website, Sandero is indeed going to include maps on the phone. Chuck

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2013-02-28 Thread Dan Beaver GMail
the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing

RE: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ [grou...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I sure would like to know what the e

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2013-02-28 Thread Alan Paganelli
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 26 February 2013 10:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From

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2013-02-28 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
*To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps

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2013-02-28 Thread Will
Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature

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2013-02-28 Thread Richard Turner
My apologies to the list for forwarding the message about the Seeing Eye GPS app and assuming that people would be able to figure out how to contact Sendero group since their phone number was in the message and the fact that since the message was a forward, replying to it would just go to

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Les Kriegler
Don't feel bad Richard, you had the right idea. Believe it or not, the same thing happened GPS users list. People were instructed to reply privately to Sendera, but you should've seen the number of messages that went to the GPS list asking to be a tester. People have to take time to read these

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2013-02-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
while. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:04 AM Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I'm not quite sure I'm following your point, and it looks like you removed the thread you were replying to, so I may be going off on a tangent. I agree off the shelf products should be made accessible, and the blind and the sighted should use the same products and applications whenever

RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi, APH has come out with an android GPS that does store maps on the phone

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Rocket
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ [grou...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I sure would like to know what the e-mail address

RE: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, 2013 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Why is it such a big deal to want to be a veta tester? Does one get paid or rewarded in some way for doing this for a private

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Peter Holdstock
and see the changes which come from it. Peter -Original Message- From: Rocket Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Why

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
27, 2013 9:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I sure would like to know what the e-mail address is to reply to in order to receive the test flight information? Does anyone

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Rocket
-Original Message- From: Rocket Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Why is it such a big deal to want to be a veta

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2013-02-28 Thread Mary Otten
Hi David, I am not sure if on line maps are cheaper. The American Printing House has just issued their blindness-oriented gps app on Android and, drum roll, it uses off line maps. Same small market, maybe even smaller, since as of now, it is only marketed in the U.S. and for the android-using

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ [grou...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I sure would like to know what

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2013-02-28 Thread Mary Otten
Does the Apple app store let companies provice demos? I didn't think so. The Mac store doesn't. And the maps are definitely not stored on the device. All in the cloud. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To

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2013-02-28 Thread David Chittenden
Mary, I have not worked in the GPS mapping industry, so am unaware of their specific pricing structures. My knowledge comes from work in the Optical Character Recognition, Text To Speech, and Speech To Text industries, ending about eight years ago. That said, I heard an interview with someone

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Mary Otten
Well, all I know is that APH is using Navteq maps like Sendero, but APH's are on your device, whereas Sendero's are in the cloud. Go figure. Mary \ Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public

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2013-02-28 Thread Les Kriegler
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too

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2013-02-28 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Les, This app is the one they've been developing for some time now for their braille plus 18 device. So it isn't' quite fair to compare it with the Sendero app, because it has been under development for quite a while, and was released with the APH hardware last year. I recall hearing demos

Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-27 Thread Les Kriegler
To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday

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2013-02-27 Thread Mária Orovčíková
Hi list, talking about presentation they said: February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Sorry for this question, but which time zone are they referring to? I would like to listen

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2013-02-27 Thread Andy Baracco
that this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access

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2013-02-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible

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2013-02-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how

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2013-02-27 Thread Richard Turner
That is Pacific time. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, talking about presentation they said: February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App

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2013-02-27 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Fenton
PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS

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2013-02-27 Thread DJ
Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:23 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Richard, The on line conference, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App. on , Friday,, March 1: 2:00 - 3:00

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2013-02-27 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Richard, The on line conference, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App. on , Friday,, March 1: 2:00 - 3:00 PM, It doesn't say what time zone? On Feb 26, 3:01 pm

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2013-02-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps-bou

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2013-02-27 Thread Rocket
the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Fenton
*Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou

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2013-02-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't

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2013-02-27 Thread Charles Dean
Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:23 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Richard, The on line conference, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App. on , Friday,, March 1: 2:00 - 3:00 PM

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2013-02-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on thislist: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4

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2013-02-27 Thread Charles Dean
: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUNaccess! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4

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2013-02-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk
I hope to get an Iphone with Sprint as my carrier, and hope to have it some time in the next two weeks. After that, you can bet Im going to test every GPS app around, including this one. Maybe what we should be asking ourselves here is not whether this is a ghetto product, for the blind, but

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2013-02-27 Thread Louise Redsull
Sent: 26 February 2013 10:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org

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2013-02-27 Thread Louise Redsull
:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps

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2013-02-27 Thread Charles Dean
That could get very expensive. I suggest instead, that you check out apple vix , Which is a great resource for people have already tested apps and giving their opinions. Here's a link: http://www.applevis.com/ Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 27, 2013, at

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Mark, I don't think there is much point in making a big deal out of the fact that the Seeing Eye app is designed with the blind user in mind and has features which may not be of much value to a sighted person. If a sighted person comes up to an intersection they do not need their GPS app

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rocket Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! What I am really looking for in a GPS product is something that is waterproof

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi, Then it will be interesting

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2013-02-27 Thread Charles Dean
@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From

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2013-02-27 Thread Mary Otten
On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this

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2013-02-27 Thread Chuck Dean
Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows

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2013-02-27 Thread Mary Otten
Chuck, Where did you see that maps would be included on the phone? I ask that because I was party to a discussion on their gps-talk list where Mike May said that maps on the phone is not included at this time in this release. Several people said they would like that feature, but I wonder why

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2013-02-27 Thread Mary Otten
Chuck, I had read that info before when the announcement first came out. It does not say that the 2 map sources, osm and Navteq are available on the device. It says that the app draws from two map sources, which does not mean they are on the device. Given what Mike May said, I think you are

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wish the people replying to these posts would read the information before they post. According to the website, Sandero is indeed going to include maps on the phone. Chuck

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although

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2013-02-27 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Sieghard, The users' guide makes no mention of map storage one way or the other. Mike was very clear that this is the first iteration of the app, and they're going to be listening to user feedback to help guide further app development. There are features that users of the other Sendero

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
for it in the last 2 or so years. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013

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2013-02-27 Thread Grant Hardy
*Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou

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2013-02-27 Thread DJ
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Charles, I am not sure what part of the website you found that talks about

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data

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2013-02-27 Thread David Chittenden
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I

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2013-02-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk
This is my point; if Sendero is smart, they'll built an app that EVERYONE will want, even if blind people most of all, and then they can charge less for it, reaching a broader market. Supply and demand. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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2013-02-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing

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2013-02-27 Thread James Mannion
: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! This is my point; if Sendero is smart

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2013-02-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk
I guess that's a theoretical question, then: If Sendero made their app prettier, more visually appealing, more eye candy, with maps and whatever, would it cost too much in terms of labor and drive even the fair market price up, or would it drive the price up to target an app for a backwater,

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2013-02-27 Thread David Chittenden
27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me

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2013-02-27 Thread David Chittenden
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! This is my point

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2013-02-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk
So it would still make more sense to partner with a company who makes such a silent, visually appealing app, and piggy-back a Sendero type level of verbal interaction at the user's command. This, after all, is what VoiceOver does to the native IOS when it's invoked. Then, this amortization

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2013-02-27 Thread Tom Lange
of using OSM, Navteq or Foursquare. Tom - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access

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2013-02-27 Thread Andy Baracco
, February 27, 2013 10:31 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote

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2013-02-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure how this would work. What would be Garmin's motivation for doing this? I'm not sure the development costs still wouldn't be more to provide an accessible option to a given product than develop an accessible product from the ground up. The amortization argument was mostly targeted at

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2013-02-27 Thread Brent Harding
@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! On another list, Mike said that local storage will not be possible, at least at first, but some local storage may be a later

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2013-02-27 Thread David Chittenden
Navigon, TomTom, and a few others have added features useable by the blind. This is about the best we're going to get unless we go with a company focused on access for the blind. That said, most companies focused on access for the blind do not know how to design for the sighted. Apple is one of

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2013-02-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I'm not sure how this would work. What would be Garmin's motivation for doing this? I'm not sure

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2013-02-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Wow. well, thanks for making it personal, there. Appreciate that, but not so much. What *I* personally have a problem with, since you brought it up, is anything that raises the barriers that sight imposes between blind and sighted persons, instead of lowering them or making that barrier

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2013-02-27 Thread Thanh Vinh
:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org

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2013-02-26 Thread Richard Turner
I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero

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2013-02-26 Thread Charles Dean
[mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994

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2013-02-26 Thread Robert Fenton
: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind

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2013-02-26 Thread Hope Paulos
...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013

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2013-02-26 Thread Mark BurningHawk
And is there a price for the non-preview non-free version? I'm hopefully getting an Iphone some time within the next two weeks. so YAY! Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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2013-02-26 Thread Richard Turner
The only information I am aware of is what was in the announcement. I hope to be able to listen to the presentation on Friday in hopes more will be revealed. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Mark BurningHawk stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: And

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2013-02-26 Thread Candie Stiles
...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS

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