Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Donna Casteen
Kait, you are a granddaughter to be admired & treasured. I want to share my 
story with you. I lost my vision at age 45 following surgery. Being thrown into 
blindness was difficult to accept & have to deal with, everything was abruptly 
taken away, my independence, pride, self confidence, interests/hobbies, the 
beauty of nature, the smiles on the faces of family & friends…Everything! I 
spent 3 years cycling through the first 4 stages of grief, denial, anger, 
bargaining & depression, before finally reaching the fifth & final stage, 
acceptance. When “I” felt that “I” was close to putting a stage of grief behind 
me & move on to the next stage, someone in my life would say or do something 
that would set me back. Even though their comments or actions were said & done 
with the best intentions & my well being in mind- I saw the actions as them 
rushing me to heal, while showing me that they did not have confidence in my 
ability to find “My” own way to do things that would work for “Me.” Like you, 
my best friend of 30+ years & my parents felt that it was very important for me 
to learn to use a smartphone so that they could keep in contact with me & they 
thought that a smartphone would aid in my independence. Learning to use a 
smartphone was at the bottom of my “New Normal” bucket list, especially when my 
flip phone was still usable & would solve  their problem of them needing to be 
in constant contact with me, because of their worries of me being alone. 
Labeling the microwave, stove, washer, dryer, helping to organize the kitchen 
food pantry, the refrigerator, the cleaning & personal care items was what I 
needed & wanted the most. Things that would give me a sense of independence & 
the feeling of accomplishment when I was able to prepare my own food, take care 
of my personal needs & clean my own house. Why not use a dot of puff paint to 
mark the answer call & some of the numbers on the dial pad on her flip phone? 
get her an AlexaShow  & setup contacts & Alexa calling. The AlexaShow is 
simpler to teach, easier to learn to use, being that it works by voice commands 
& can do almost everything that her having a smartphone can do. She can make & 
accept calls, send text messages, listen to music & books, play games & have 
items identified for her. Leave the smartphone with voiceover on with her. Show 
her how to turn the phone on & how to charge the phone. Encourage her to 
explore the phone alone, let her interest & curiosity guide her, not what you 
think that she needs to learn.  Be supportive by letting her try to do things 
on her own before you offer suggestions, advice or guidance, but do not step in 
& complete a task for her, unless she agrees to let you do so. I do not accept 
change well. I am stubborn & my pride & self independence sometimes gets in the 
way of me asking for help. Once my family & friends stepped back & let me take 
the lead in showing what my abilities were, it made their wanting to step in & 
help easier for me to accept. Feeling helpless & useless to oneself & to others 
is a very dark & lonely place to be.Don’t forget that your Grandma needs her 
own sunshine.

Donna

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish 
not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help 
when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a 
short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  
knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form 
of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this 
explanation will help?
> thank you ,
> kait
>  
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer  wrote:
> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one.
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides 
> players so no need for a phone.
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by 
> other means?
> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>  
> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone 
> is so important?
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Kait Forbes
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>  
> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to 
> the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  She 
> is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this position to 
> teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard 
> work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from 
> scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this 
> is her denial stage but if I can 

Sleep Number Bed App

2021-05-03 Thread Carla
I'm getting a new Sleep Number bed and it has the app on the iPhone.  Does
anyone have this and if so is it totally accessible?  Thanks for any info.
 
Carla
 

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Re: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Yohandy

Hey there all,

Any idea if these glasses support Microsoft Soundscape? I think the old 
model did, that's what I read anyway, but not sure about these new sport 
ones. apparently it uses their accelerometers and such to pinpoint 
things, which sounds super cool. I was thinking of picking up a pair. 
thanks in advance for any help!




On 5/3/2021 3:35 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that AfterShokz 
headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when issuing a Siri 
command via its multifunction button which is totally unnecessary with other brands.



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook 
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Closing Facebook mobile browser

2021-05-03 Thread 'Louana Sterling' via VIPhone
Hi all hope this is the right place to ask my question... When on fb and I 
click on some links that takes me to utube I can’t close out and go back to 
fb...  When I click on close it takes me to a page that says I am using fb 
mobile browser... Does any one know how to close it or get rid of the fb mobile 
browser??? Thanks for any help you can give with this problem... It started 
after updating fb last week...

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Re: Setting up Hey Siri

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
Thank you to everyone that has replied to the email.  I have a lot to read
through here and have a lot of information.  The person that sent me the
disability line number, that was a stroke of business.  The PDF of
information was nice too.  The personal replies.  But most of all, the
amount of replies,  this is a great start and really most appreciated.
Just needed to let you all know that.  You can't know what this means to
me. so.
Thank you
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 7:20 PM Mr. Ed  wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> You are right as I forgot about that part when I wrote those instructions.
> I was just trying to write some basic instructions for when she turns on
> VO. It been so long since I have setup the voice for Hey Siri it didn’t
> enter my mind.
>
> Mr. Ed
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> You cannot setup Hey Siri without going through the steps of training her
> to your voice, or at least a voice.
>
> I just tried it on a phone that had no Siri history.
>
>
>
> You can turn on using Siri with the Home Button, but whether you do that
> or not, if you try to turn on Listen for Hey Siri, and do not go through
> the training steps, it stays turned off.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Shirley Tracy
While you have spoken truth, please be aware that Kate is asking for help, not criticism. I’m sure she knows this list can’t give her a magic formula. I admire her for being brave and trying.  We have to remember we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. Personally, I can ask some pretty annoying questions, because I’m not a great I-Phone user. I’m not nearly as advanced as most of you. But I ask so I can learn. And I’m better than I was last year.  Cheerfully,Shirley Tracy From: Star GazerSent: Monday, May 3, 2021 3:13 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: In need of assistance There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an Iphone. I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on Me Tv. That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an Iphone. Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use, sometimes just the opposite can happen. If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she could do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t know why this idea is so stuck in your head. This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it can’t make its inherent nature into something you or she will find enjoyable. What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or tell you how to download audio books for her. We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell her/you how to save a picture the grandkids sent her. We can tell her/you how to text. We can’t make her do any of these things. Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it may come with some other services you guys may find useful.  Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean this list can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone user on the planet.  We can’t do this for anybody.   Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kait ForbesSent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: In need of assistance My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?thank you ,kait On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer  wrote:May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one. If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides players so no need for a phone. What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by other means? Would an Alexa be easier for her?  I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone is so important? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kait ForbesSent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: In need of assistance Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a start.  On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait ForbesSent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: In need of assistance Good morning everyone, Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her 

RE: Setting up Hey Siri

2021-05-03 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Richard,

You are right as I forgot about that part when I wrote those instructions. I 
was just trying to write some basic instructions for when she turns on VO. It 
been so long since I have setup the voice for Hey Siri it didn’t enter my mind.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting up Hey Siri

 

You cannot setup Hey Siri without going through the steps of training her to 
your voice, or at least a voice.

I just tried it on a phone that had no Siri history.

 

You can turn on using Siri with the Home Button, but whether you do that or 
not, if you try to turn on Listen for Hey Siri, and do not go through the 
training steps, it stays turned off.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Go for it Kait,

You can’t go wrong really and hey the older generation can be pretty set in 
their ways,

But if they take their time and you let them play,

9 out of 10 get right in to it.

Although my mothers so pig headed she gave up and got an android which she 
can’t use at all.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 5:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

I really do think I will stay with the SE.  I am going to have to put the work 
in but in the end I do believe it will be worth it.  Thank you

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:47 PM Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Unless there have been update changes, when I set up Hay Siri, I had to go 
through the prompts saying what I was told to say so that Siri could learn to 
identify my voice.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kate,

I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But here 
are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”



1.   Click on the settings app.

2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.

3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.

4.   Close settings and you are done.



Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.

If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If you 
want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.

When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to make 
the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with one finger 
to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your finger around 
the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So say you are on the 
settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open settings you do a one 
finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you hear settings to open the 
settings app.



Let us know any other questions you may have.

Mr. Ed



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance



okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands 
phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait



 


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Re: alternative pod cast player

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
I've used it for years with no account.
I have a bunch of podcasts that I subscribed to.
I prefer it not to download; but in the settings you can make it download.
HTH,



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On May 3, 2021, at 3:41 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:

 A question for those who use overcast. On my phone I have overcast which I 
never signed into. I have used it for practically the whole time I’ve had 
iPhones which is since 2012. Possibly 2014 or so I don’t know when it came out, 
but I’ve never signed into it. On my iPad when I want to go in and look at a 
podcast on overcastit wants me to sign in. It does not download the podcasts 
that I listen to. How can I get overcast to do this without signing in? I think 
if I made my own login I would have to start from the beginning since I never 
signed in in the first place. Any help is appreciated. Thanks so much. I really 
don’t want to have to download or subscribe I should say  to the podcasts again.

Reggie Alvarado

On May 3, 2021, at 6:26 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:


Anyone checked out pod bean? It gets at least one of my podcasts faster than 
what appears on the native podcatcher.

On May 3, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


I like icatcher a lot. It isn’t free but well worth the $5 in my opinion.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternative pod cast player

get Overcast. You won't look back. It is so far superior to the native podcast 
app that I do not have the words to explain.
Try it out and check out the settings.
It is free.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On May 3, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dan 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have been using the podcast player that comes with Iphones.  However, for the 
past few software releases one of the functions I really liked about it has 
gone away.



I really liked the way I could download an episode and then tell it to add that 
episode to the up next list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away so I 
can't find a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.



Is there a free podcast player app out there that is accessible and will let me 
do this kind of thing?



Thanks.





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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
It depends on the volume you have the frames at,

Yes if it's loud or full volume,

No if the volume is down but still at a comfortable level.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 8:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi about these frames.
What I would like to know is if you are on A call and using them.
Can others hear your conversation as well or just you?

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Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands. 



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
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Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook 
Talking Information Center


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Re: alternative pod cast player

2021-05-03 Thread regina alvarado
A question for those who use overcast. On my phone I have overcast which I 
never signed into. I have used it for practically the whole time I’ve had 
iPhones which is since 2012. Possibly 2014 or so I don’t know when it came out, 
but I’ve never signed into it. On my iPad when I want to go in and look at a 
podcast on overcastit wants me to sign in. It does not download the podcasts 
that I listen to. How can I get overcast to do this without signing in? I think 
if I made my own login I would have to start from the beginning since I never 
signed in in the first place. Any help is appreciated. Thanks so much. I really 
don’t want to have to download or subscribe I should say  to the podcasts again.

Reggie Alvarado 

On May 3, 2021, at 6:26 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:


Anyone checked out pod bean? It gets at least one of my podcasts faster than 
what appears on the native podcatcher.

On May 3, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


I like icatcher a lot. It isn’t free but well worth the $5 in my opinion.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternative pod cast player
 
get Overcast. You won't look back. It is so far superior to the native podcast 
app that I do not have the words to explain.
Try it out and check out the settings.
It is free.
 

 
Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
www.turner42.com
 


On May 3, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dan  wrote:


I have been using the podcast player that comes with Iphones.  However, for the 
past few software releases one of the functions I really liked about it has 
gone away.

 

I really liked the way I could download an episode and then tell it to add that 
episode to the up next list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away so I 
can't find a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.

 

Is there a free podcast player app out there that is accessible and will let me 
do this kind of thing?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Kait,

The majority of people on this list are very helpful and will go  out of their 
way to assist if we can.

I think starting with the iphone is a great option for your gran,

However knowing what my sighted 83 year old mother is like,
It could be a big learning curve for her,

But hey it sounds like you have a lot of patients towards helping her the best 
you can.

Depending on how she finds the phone to use for a start,
There is a phone out there which I can’t remember the details of but is built 
for the older generations with voice output and larger buttons if that might be 
a more possible option for her.

But until you work that one out with her ,

By all means keep throwing the questions at us and we’ll answer for you the 
best we can.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 8:27 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Stargazer,
Wish i knew how to respond to this email?  I assure you I was not looking for a 
magic bullet but instructions on  how to set up my Gran's phone for her.  
Thought a little background would help.  Did not think that would  offend 
anyone? The reason I chose this particular phone was for the siri.or anything 
voice related.  I do not wish to stress her out over anything at this time.  
But a phone in any form is a preference to nothing at all.  If it doesn't pan 
out, I intend to keep looking.  Things aren't set in stone.  I really thought 
and was given to believe that this was the site to come to for phone support on 
a personal level .It gives one that comradery feeling.  I think if you want to 
know and learn something that is so darn important, go to the source.   I still 
believe that sighted or not.
Thank you for your advice and support and I will also try and keep in mind what 
I am here for.
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 3:14 PM Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an Iphone.
I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on Me Tv.
That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an Iphone.
Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is 
designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use, 
sometimes just the opposite can happen.
If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she could 
do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t know why 
this idea is so stuck in your head.
This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it can’t 
make its inherent nature into something you or she will find enjoyable.
What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or tell 
you how to download audio books for her.
We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell her/you 
how to save a picture the grandkids sent her.
We can tell her/you how to text.
We can’t make her do any of these things.
Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it may 
come with some other services you guys may find useful.

Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean this list 
can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone user on 
the planet.  We can’t do this for anybody.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish 
not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help 
when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a 
short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  
knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form 
of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this 
explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one.
If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides players 
so no need for a phone.
What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by other 
means?
Would an Alexa be easier for her?

I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone 
is so important?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
To: 

Re: alternative pod cast player

2021-05-03 Thread Kathy Brandt
Anyone checked out pod bean? It gets at least one of my podcasts faster than 
what appears on the native podcatcher.

On May 3, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


I like icatcher a lot. It isn’t free but well worth the $5 in my opinion.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternative pod cast player
 
get Overcast. You won't look back. It is so far superior to the native podcast 
app that I do not have the words to explain.
Try it out and check out the settings.
It is free.
 

 
Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
www.turner42.com
 


On May 3, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dan  wrote:


I have been using the podcast player that comes with Iphones.  However, for the 
past few software releases one of the functions I really liked about it has 
gone away.

 

I really liked the way I could download an episode and then tell it to add that 
episode to the up next list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away so I 
can't find a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.

 

Is there a free podcast player app out there that is accessible and will let me 
do this kind of thing?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
As stated here,

If the volume is up to it's maximum then yes others can hear the person on the 
phone with you.

If you have them low that is still comfortable for you then no they shouldn’t 
be able to hear the caller,

I use mine all the time and only music loud is what people have heard and then 
only when they sit close to me.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 10:18 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I would imagine that if you have to volume all the way up it would be possible 
for others to hear your conversation. Kept at a reasonable volume, there could 
be some chance of others hearing but not much. They are open speakers so I 
think it's to be expected.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi about these frames.
What I would like to know is if you are on A call and using them.
Can others hear your conversation as well or just you?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands. 



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
The alto are the original bose frames 

They are a few years old now 

The tenor, tempo and seprano are the newer models out mid to late 2020 
So have better speakers and volume, different shapes of lens,
Sepranos are meant for women,
Tenor a mens fashion glasses,

And tempo are a sports glass with replaceable lens and are wrap around,

The alto is just older and not as good quality audio from them,

I  have both tenor and tempo and they are well worth the money,


I will also say that the tenor has a prepriotory connector for charging 
Usb a at one end, the bose connector at the other,

The tempos use a usb A and USb-c to go in to the glasses end for charging.

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Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 10:02 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Good evening;
could someone tell me the difference between,  the Bose frames alto, which is 
$125.00, the Bose frames, soprano, tenor, tempo, all over $300.00 other than 
the battery charge, most being 6 hours charge, unlike the Bose frames tempo has 
a 8 hours charge.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands. 



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread rick.alfaro
I would imagine that if you have to volume all the way up it would be possible 
for others to hear your conversation. Kept at a reasonable volume, there could 
be some chance of others hearing but not much. They are open speakers so I 
think it's to be expected.





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
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Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi about these frames.
What I would like to know is if you are on A call and using them.
Can others hear your conversation as well or just you?

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Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands. 



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread David Whitehead
Good evening;
could someone tell me the difference between,  the Bose frames alto, which is 
$125.00,
the Bose frames, soprano, tenor, tempo, all over $300.00
other than the battery charge, most being 6 hours charge,
unlike the Bose frames tempo has a 8 hours charge.

   The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a 
dream.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands. 



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Salem, MA. 01970
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RE: alternative pod cast player

2021-05-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I like icatcher a lot. It isn’t free but well worth the $5 in my opinion.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternative pod cast player

 

get Overcast. You won't look back. It is so far superior to the native podcast 
app that I do not have the words to explain. 

Try it out and check out the settings.

It is free.

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com  

 





On May 3, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dan mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have been using the podcast player that comes with Iphones.  However, for the 
past few software releases one of the functions I really liked about it has 
gone away.

 

I really liked the way I could download an episode and then tell it to add that 
episode to the up next list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away so I 
can't find a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.

 

Is there a free podcast player app out there that is accessible and will let me 
do this kind of thing?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: alternative pod cast player

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
get Overcast. You won't look back. It is so far superior to the native podcast 
app that I do not have the words to explain.
Try it out and check out the settings.
It is free.



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On May 3, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dan  wrote:



I have been using the podcast player that comes with Iphones.  However, for the 
past few software releases one of the functions I really liked about it has 
gone away.


I really liked the way I could download an episode and then tell it to add that 
episode to the up next list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away so I 
can't find a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.


Is there a free podcast player app out there that is accessible and will let me 
do this kind of thing?


Thanks.



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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Kate best of luck to you.  Learning the iPhone can be a challenge, but
it is so worth it.  I've been good with technology all my life, and it
took me a couple of months of working with the iPhone and using this
list before I really got the hang of it.  I believe someone gave you
the number for apple disability, that number is super helpful as well.

On 5/3/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Kate,
>
>
>
> The learning curve for the iPhone is steep but well worth the climb.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait
> Forbes
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> This is a big learning curve!
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:28 PM 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:
>
> Sis, if she's really phone savvy and technology savvy, she will do fine with
> an iPhone. Otherwise, she may need  an easier phone. If that's the case, I
> may be able to search one out for her. Many older people are really catching
> on to iPhones and such,  though. There will be a learning curve.
>
> Love ya,
> Karen
>
>
>
> At 05:44 AM 5/3/2021, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Do you mean an Iphone?
>
> Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she likes,
> they all sound different and everybody has a preference
>
> What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want to do
> with her phone?
>
> I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail   for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
> From: Kait Forbes 
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.
> I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.
>  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her
> the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with
> that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many
> thanks for your help and support here.
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alternative pod cast player

2021-05-03 Thread Dan

  
  
I have been using the podcast player that
comes with Iphones.  However, for the past few software releases
one of the functions I really liked about it has gone away.

  
I really liked the way I could download an
episode and then tell it to add that episode to the up next
list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away so I can't find
a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.

  
Is there a free podcast player app out
there that is accessible and will let me do this kind of thing?

  
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Alan Lemly
Kate,

 

The learning curve for the iPhone is steep but well worth the climb.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

This is a big learning curve!  

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:28 PM 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Sis, if she's really phone savvy and technology savvy, she will do fine with an 
iPhone. Otherwise, she may need  an easier phone. If that's the case, I may be 
able to search one out for her. Many older people are really catching on to 
iPhones and such,  though. There will be a learning curve.

Love ya,
Karen



At 05:44 AM 5/3/2021, you wrote:




Do you mean an Iphone? 

Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she likes, 
they all sound different and everybody has a preference

What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want to do 
with her phone? 

I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Kait Forbes  
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
 Stargazer,
Wish i knew how to respond to this email?  I assure you I was not looking
for a magic bullet but instructions on  how to set up my Gran's phone for
her.  Thought a little background would help.  Did not think that would
offend anyone? The reason I chose this particular phone was for the siri.or
anything voice related.  I do not wish to stress her out over anything at
this time.  But a phone in any form is a preference to nothing at all.  If
it doesn't pan out, I intend to keep looking.  Things aren't set in stone.
I really thought and was given to believe that this was the site to come to
for phone support on a personal level .It gives one that comradery
feeling.  I think if you want to know and learn something that is so darn
important, go to the source.   I still believe that sighted or not.
Thank you for your advice and support and I will also try and keep in mind
what I am here for.
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 3:14 PM Star Gazer  wrote:

> There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an
> Iphone.
>
> I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on
> Me Tv.
>
> That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an
> Iphone.
>
> Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is
> designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use,
> sometimes just the opposite can happen.
>
> If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she
> could do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t
> know why this idea is so stuck in your head.
>
> This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it
> can’t make its inherent nature into something you or she will find
> enjoyable.
>
> What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or
> tell you how to download audio books for her.
>
> We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell
> her/you how to save a picture the grandkids sent her.
>
> We can tell her/you how to text.
>
> We can’t make her do any of these things.
>
> Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it
> may come with some other services you guys may find useful.
>
>
>
> Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean this
> list can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone
> user on the planet.  We can’t do this for anybody.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
> and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
> I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
> need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
> only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
> feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
> pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
> would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
> form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
>
> thank you ,
>
> kait
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
> wrote:
>
> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
> one.
>
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
> players so no need for a phone.
>
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
> other means?
>
> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>
>
>
> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
> phone is so important?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains
> to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her
> thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in
> this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
> the darn phone it's a start.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>
> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and
> has an understanding abut basic concepts 

RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Casey Wollner
Hi about these frames.
What I would like to know is if you are on A call and using them.
Can others hear your conversation as well or just you?

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Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands. 



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I was referring to the blindShell.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

I am not sure I understand this post?  Are you referring to another phone?

Kait

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:47 AM Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs, who 
cares whether you can get rid of it or not.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



Richard
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they become by it."
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>  > wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty   > wrote:
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>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread catwacky via VIPhone
Sorry you guys, I thought this was my sister writing to me to ask for help. 
Guess it will be Monday all day.   

 

Karen

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

This is a big learning curve!  

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:28 PM 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Sis, if she's really phone savvy and technology savvy, she will do fine with an 
iPhone. Otherwise, she may need  an easier phone. If that's the case, I may be 
able to search one out for her. Many older people are really catching on to 
iPhones and such,  though. There will be a learning curve.

Love ya,
Karen



At 05:44 AM 5/3/2021, you wrote:




Do you mean an Iphone? 

Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she likes, 
they all sound different and everybody has a preference

What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want to do 
with her phone? 

I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Kait Forbes  
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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RE: Setting up Hey Siri

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
Jim cannot get Hay Siri to respond to him from my phone. We could go through 
the steps for him, but he's not interested, just tried it for curiosity. 

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Richard:
 
Can your wife get Hey Siri to respond to her voice after you set it up with 
your voice

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
Definitely right, that she needs a means of communication like a phone can be. 
She can do most things on an iPhone with her voice other than closing apps and 
charging it. If you have a wireless charger, where she can lay the phone on it 
to charge, that is more like hanging up a landline phone. The phone does have 
to be positioned right to charge, but VoiceOver gives prompts for that. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish 
not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help 
when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a 
short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  
knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form 
of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this 
explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:


May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use 
one. 

If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides 
players so no need for a phone. 

What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished 
by other means? 

Would an Alexa be easier for her? 

 

I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the 
phone is so important?

 

Sent from Mail   for 
Windows 10

 

From: Kait Forbes  
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it 
pertains to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her 
thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this 
position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism 
and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from 
scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is 
her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a 
start. 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother 
and what is your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could 
still see and has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be 
completely new to her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody 
tried to help out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my 
Grandmother, she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally 
blind.  I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting 
with her phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can 
do this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I 
bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 
with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many 
thanks for your help and support here.

Kait

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RE: Setting up Hey Siri

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
No.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:40 PM
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Richard:

Can your wife get Hey Siri to respond to her voice after you set it up with 
your voice
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
When I set mine up, it had to be in my voice. 

Here is the number for Apple Disability

877-204-3930

They could help you with some things like that. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Could you tell me if by doing this does it have to be in her voice to awake it 
or can I set it up and she would be able to activate it?


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:00 PM Mr. Ed mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net> > wrote:


Hi Kate,

I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But 
here are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”

 

1.   Click on the settings app.

2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.

3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.

4.   Close settings and you are done.

 

Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.

If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. 
If you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.

When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right 
to make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with 
one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your 
finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So say 
you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open 
settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you hear 
settings to open the settings app.

 

Let us know any other questions you may have.

Mr. Ed  

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait

 

 

 

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go 
to Siri in Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five 
prompts, so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my 
phone nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an 
emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be used 
that way. 

   

Re: Setting up Hey Siri

2021-05-03 Thread Holly
Richard:

Can your wife get Hey Siri to respond to her voice after you set it up with 
your voice

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
We veered over to the topic of the Blind Shell Classic, a button phone, not a 
good one, in my opinion. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

I am not sure I understand this post?  Are you referring to another phone?
Kait


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:47 AM Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:


I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs, 
who cares whether you can get rid of it or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because 
when you get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and 
is giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now 
is having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if 
that would be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device 
with adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is 
difficult in the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as 
voiceover the screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a 
mobile and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you 
press 5 times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>

RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread rick.alfaro
I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands. 



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
It would be good, Kate, if you could maybe find out from your doctor or some 
other source like senior center, if there is a low vision support group where 
yall live or an ACB or NFB chapter, where she could meet others with her 
problem, which, my guess would be, that she does not want to do right now. 
Also, someone suggested here contacting your state Human Services to get her 
referred to the state agency that serves blind and visually impaired. 75% of 
the brain's intake is visual, and with loss of that, in a way, its sort of like 
having a stroke, with so much relearning ways to do things you've done for 
years. It takes a lot of energy for that process. 

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Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to the 
blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  She is  
aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this position to teach 
anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work.  
She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from scratch and she 
refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is her denial stage 
but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a start. 


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:


Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what 
is your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see 
and has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to 
her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, 
she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to 
Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I 
need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  
With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the 
iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in 
mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your 
help and support here.

Kait

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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread rick.alfaro
Hi. In my case they are sun glasses with tiny bluetooth speakers inbeded into 
the stems of the glasses and pointed toward your ears. The speakers are 
actually pointed towards your ears and not on them or in them so you can hear 
all of your surroundings.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: Re: Bose frames

So just for clarification, are these devices headphones or some sort of speaker 
system? I've never heard of them.  

> On May 2, 2021, at 10:39 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
> headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
> style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
> others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
> every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also 
> work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work 
> the best for me.
> 
> My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way 
> that AfterShokz headphones work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" 
> when issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
> unnecessary with other brands.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards
> 
> Rick Alfaro
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> 
> Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will 
> not block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another 
> headset by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that 
> sounds great so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  
> What I am doing now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  
> It works well but, I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the 
> same time have total ability of hearing traffic and other sounds 
> around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just 
> want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
> great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any 
> suggestions.  Andy and Leroy
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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Daniel MacDonald
AppleVis is an exalentresource for learning VoiceOver on the iPhone. The 
site has a getting started section which is helpful. The site has lots f 
podcasts, guides, app and game directories and forums to ask questions. 

> On May 3, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean an Iphone? 
> Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she likes, 
> they all sound different and everybody has a preference
> What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want to do 
> with her phone? 
> I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?
>  
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> From: Kait Forbes 
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: In need of assistance
>  
> Good morning everyone,
>  
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
> my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
> her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I 
> need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  
> With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the 
> iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in 
> mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for 
> your help and support here.
> Kait
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
Kate has stated she is sticking with the iPhone for now.
Maybe let her focus on that rather than continually throwing out other phones 
that she doesn't have time to research.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an Iphone.
I see their ads when I'm watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on Me Tv.
That may be more your grandma's speed (and maybe yours too) then an Iphone.
Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is 
designed with blindness in mind, doesn't mean it is inherently easy to use, 
sometimes just the opposite can happen.
If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she could 
do that, but if she doesn't, and you yourself don't use one, I don't know why 
this idea is so stuck in your head.
This community can't make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it can't 
make its inherent nature into something you or she will find enjoyable.
What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or tell 
you how to download audio books for her.
We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell her/you 
how to save a picture the grandkids sent her.
We can tell her/you how to text.
We can't make her do any of these things.
Given what you've said, I'd look at the Lively Flip which seems like it may 
come with some other services you guys may find useful.

Please understand again just because grandma can't see doesn't mean this list 
can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone user on 
the planet.  We can't do this for anybody.


Sent from 
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From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish 
not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help 
when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a 
short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  
knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form 
of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this 
explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
May I ask why? If she's happy without a phone, she doesn't need to use one.
If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides players 
so no need for a phone.
What all does she want to do with the phone that can't be accomplished by other 
means?
Would an Alexa be easier for her?

I think I'm stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone 
is so important?

Sent from 
Mail
 for Windows 10

From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to the 
blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  She is  
aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this position to teach 
anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work.  
She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from scratch and she 
refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is her denial stage 
but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a start.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Star Gazer
There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an Iphone. 
I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on Me 
Tv. 
That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an Iphone. 
Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is 
designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use, 
sometimes just the opposite can happen. 
If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she could 
do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t know why 
this idea is so stuck in your head. 
This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it can’t 
make its inherent nature into something you or she will find enjoyable. 
What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or tell 
you how to download audio books for her. 
We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell her/you 
how to save a picture the grandkids sent her. 
We can tell her/you how to text. 
We can’t make her do any of these things. 
Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it may 
come with some other services you guys may find useful. 

Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean this list 
can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone user on 
the planet.  We can’t do this for anybody. 


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish 
not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help 
when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a 
short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  
knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form 
of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this 
explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer  wrote:
May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one. 
If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides players 
so no need for a phone. 
What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by other 
means? 
Would an Alexa be easier for her? 
 
I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone 
is so important?
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance
 
Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to the 
blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  She is  
aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this position to teach 
anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work.  
She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from scratch and she 
refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is her denial stage 
but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a start. 
 
On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance
 
Good morning everyone,
 
Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.
Kait
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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Mike B
Hi Kate,

When my mother-in-law came to live with us she had a hearing problem, which 
she had for many years.  I had introduced her to a phone for the hearing 
impaired that had a screen  / small monitor that she could read what the 
other party was saying.  At first she was reluctant, but after trying and 
getting used to it and being able to communicate with the outside world she 
embraced it and really enjoyed the new found freedom it gave her.  Hopefully 
your grandmother will find the same enjoyment and freedoms this iPhone can 
provide.  Good luck and go gramma!


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Kait Forbes
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: In need of assistance


maria,
Now you have it!  And thank you for understanding.
Kait



On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:14 PM Maria Campbell  wrote:

  Some older people can be quite ornery and set in their ways.  My 
father-in-law was that way at first, but he came around at the end and 
accepted assistance.  Good luck to you in your efforts.





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--Edmund BurkeOn 5/3/2021 2:07 PM, Kait Forbes wrote:

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that 
and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and 
I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she 
need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will 
only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I 
feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am 
pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone 
would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any 
form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait



On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer  
wrote:

  May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use 
one.

  If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS 
provides players so no need for a phone.

  What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished 
by other means?

  Would an Alexa be easier for her?



  I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why 
the phone is so important?



  Sent from Mail for Windows 10



  From: Kait Forbes
  Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: In need of assistance



  Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it 
pertains to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not 
her thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in 
this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive 
criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are 
starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help her. 
I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up the 
darn phone it's a start.



  On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and 
what is your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still 
see and has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely 
new to her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to 
help out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance



Good morning everyone,



Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my 
Grandmother, she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally 
blind.  I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am 
starting with her phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the 
groups that can do this for us.  With your help I too will have the 
knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It 
says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world 
can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.

Kait

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Setting up Hey Siri

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
You cannot setup Hey Siri without going through the steps of training her to 
your voice, or at least a voice.
I just tried it on a phone that had no Siri history.

You can turn on using Siri with the Home Button, but whether you do that or 
not, if you try to turn on Listen for Hey Siri, and do not go through the 
training steps, it stays turned off.




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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
just a suggestion, I would get her an echo..Dot
you could use the phone to set up contacts and get the dot working, and provide 
a hotspot if she doesn't have Wi-Fi. she could just ask it to play a different 
radio stations, call people, listen to the news, play games, tell her jokes, 
pay music in this event is and it's so easy to interact with
Best wishes, Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 3 May 2021, at 19:14, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Some older people can be quite ornery and set in their ways.  My 
> father-in-law was that way at first, but he came around at the end and 
> accepted assistance.  Good luck to you in your efforts.  
> 
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>> On 5/3/2021 2:07 PM, Kait Forbes wrote:
>> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
>> understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I 
>> wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need 
>> help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be 
>> for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more 
>> secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have 
>> some form of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one 
>> priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any form of help it may 
>> offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
>> thank you ,
>> kait
>> 
>> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer  wrote:
>>> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one.
>>> 
>>> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides 
>>> players so no need for a phone.
>>> 
>>> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by 
>>> other means?
>>> 
>>> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the 
>>> phone is so important?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Kait Forbes
>>> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to 
>>> the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  
>>> She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this 
>>> position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive 
>>> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are 
>>> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help 
>>> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up 
>>> the darn phone it's a start.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is 
>>> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>>> 
>>> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and 
>>> has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to 
>>> her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
>>> Forbes
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: In need of assistance
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Good morning everyone,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she 
>>> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to 
>>> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone. 
>>>  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for 
>>> us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought 
>>> her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 
>>> with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  
>>> Many thanks for your help and support here.
>>> 
>>> Kait
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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Maria Campbell
My older sighted husband has a flip phone with larger buttons that he 
loves.  It has speech, but it's too chatty, so he has it off.  He does 
no email, and does research on his tablet, where he just asks Google 
what he wants.  The phone is just for making and taking calls.  So you 
see, different strokes for different folks and a million combinations of 
technology.  Hopefully, something will work for her.



Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 5/3/2021 2:28 PM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone wrote:
Sis, if she's really phone savvy and technology savvy, she will do 
fine with an iPhone. Otherwise, she may need  an easier phone. If 
that's the case, I may be able to search one out for her. Many older 
people are really catching on to iPhones and such,  though. There will 
be a learning curve.


Love ya,
Karen



At 05:44 AM 5/3/2021, you wrote:


Do you mean an Iphone?

Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she 
likes, they all sound different and everybody has a preference


What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want 
to do with her phone?


I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work 
better?






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Windows 10




*From: *Kait Forbes 
*Sent: *Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject: *In need of assistance



Good morning everyone,



Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my 
Grandmother, she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost 
totally blind.  I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things 
so I am starting with her phone.  I need help and I am told this is 
one of the groups that can do this for us.  With your help I too will 
have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. 
generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her? Many thanks for 
your help and support here.


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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
This is a big learning curve!

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:28 PM 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sis, if she's really phone savvy and technology savvy, she will do fine
> with an iPhone. Otherwise, she may need  an easier phone. If that's the
> case, I may be able to search one out for her. Many older people are really
> catching on to iPhones and such,  though. There will be a learning curve.
>
> Love ya,
> Karen
>
>
>
> At 05:44 AM 5/3/2021, you wrote:
>
> Do you mean an Iphone?
>
> Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she
> likes, they all sound different and everybody has a preference
>
> What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want to
> do with her phone?
>
> I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
> phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>
> Kait
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
Sis, if she's really phone savvy and technology 
savvy, she will do fine with an iPhone. 
Otherwise, she may need  an easier phone. If 
that's the case, I may be able to search one out 
for her. Many older people are really catching on 
to iPhones and such,  though. There will be a learning curve.


Love ya,
Karen



At 05:44 AM 5/3/2021, you wrote:


Do you mean an Iphone?

Start with voiceover, you may need to find a 
voice on there that she likes, they all sound 
different and everybody has a preference


What all are you wanting to do with her phone, 
and what does she want to do with her phone?


I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?





Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance



Good morning everyone,



Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I 
Care for my Grandmother, she is my mom.  With 
recent illness she is now almost totally 
blind.  I need to Help her get some kind of 
handle on things so I am starting with her 
phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of 
the groups that can do this for us.  With your 
help I too will have the knowledge to assist 
her.  I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. 
generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 
with that in mind Please , How in the world can 
I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.


Kait

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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
maria,
Now you have it!  And thank you for understanding.
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:14 PM Maria Campbell  wrote:

> Some older people can be quite ornery and set in their ways.  My
> father-in-law was that way at first, but he came around at the end and
> accepted assistance.  Good luck to you in your efforts.
>
>
> Maria campbelllucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>
> On 5/3/2021 2:07 PM, Kait Forbes wrote:
>
> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
> and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
> I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
> need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
> only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
> feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
> pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
> would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
> form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
> thank you ,
> kait
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
> wrote:
>
>> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
>> one.
>>
>> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
>> players so no need for a phone.
>>
>> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
>> other means?
>>
>> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
>> phone is so important?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Kait Forbes 
>> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
>> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains
>> to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her
>> thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in
>> this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
>> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
>> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
>> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
>> the darn phone it's a start.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
>> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>>
>> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see
>> and has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new
>> to her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help
>> out.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Kait Forbes
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* In need of assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother,
>> she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I
>> need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with
>> her phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
>> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
>> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
>> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
>> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>>
>> Kait
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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Maria Campbell
Some older people can be quite ornery and set in their ways.  My 
father-in-law was that way at first, but he came around at the end and 
accepted assistance.  Good luck to you in your efforts.



Maria Campbell
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--Edmund Burke

On 5/3/2021 2:07 PM, Kait Forbes wrote:
My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect 
that and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you 
may be and I wish not to leave her alone without some form of 
assistance should she need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at 
the moment but that will only be for a short time.  All things are not 
in place at this time and I feel more secure  knowing she can reach 
me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form of continuity 
and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I 
hope this explanation will help?

thank you ,
kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer > wrote:


May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to
use one.

If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS
provides players so no need for a phone.

What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be
accomplished by other means?

Would an Alexa be easier for her?

I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and
why the phone is so important?

Sent from Mail 
for Windows 10

*From: *Kait Forbes 
*Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject: *Re: In need of assistance

Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it
pertains to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers
are not her thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I
have never been in this position to teach anyone anything but I am
not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work.  She will be a
challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from scratch and she
refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is her
denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone
it's a start.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother
and what is your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to
technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could
still see and has an understanding abut basic concepts or
would it be completely new to her? Knowing this would probably
help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *Kait Forbes
*Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* In need of assistance

Good morning everyone,

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my
Grandmother, she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now
almost totally blind.  I need to Help her get some kind of
handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need help
and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for
us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist
her.  I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it
has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the
world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help
and support here.

Kait

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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer  wrote:

> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
> one.
>
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
> players so no need for a phone.
>
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
> other means?
>
> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>
>
>
> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
> phone is so important?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains
> to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her
> thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in
> this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
> the darn phone it's a start.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>
> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and
> has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to
> her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
> phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>
> Kait
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Star Gazer
May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one. 
If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides players 
so no need for a phone. 
What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by other 
means? 
Would an Alexa be easier for her? 

I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone 
is so important?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to the 
blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  She is  
aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this position to teach 
anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work.  
She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from scratch and she 
refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is her denial stage 
but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a start. 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance
 
Good morning everyone,
 
Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.
Kait
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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
I really do think I will stay with the SE.  I am going to have to put the
work in but in the end I do believe it will be worth it.  Thank you

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:47 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

> Unless there have been update changes, when I set up Hay Siri, I had to go
> through the prompts saying what I was told to say so that Siri could learn
> to identify my voice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Hi Kate,
>
> I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But
> here are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”
>
>
>
> 1.   Click on the settings app.
>
> 2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.
>
> 3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.
>
> 4.   Close settings and you are done.
>
>
>
> Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.
>
> If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If
> you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.
>
> When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to
> make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with
> one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your
> finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So
> say you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to
> open settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after
> you hear settings to open the settings app.
>
>
>
> Let us know any other questions you may have.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Kait Forbes
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
> will be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
> Let's just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow
> but  nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
> this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I
> know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having
> a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do
> not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things
> just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.
>  I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is
> just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone
> up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the
> plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot
> from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me ,
> I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start
> with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to
> know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If
> she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any
> additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this
> sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough
> that that is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she
> calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said
> am I on the right track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show
> her there is more and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten
> stuff I know but I assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you
> all understand?  I thank you very much for your kindness, support and
> consideration.  Kait
>
>
>
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> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>
> Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to
> Siri in Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five
> prompts, so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep
> my phone nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have
> an emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can
> be used that way.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed

Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
I have never heard of this phone.  And thank you for the update.  I already
have the  SE and would like to stay with it if possible.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:12 PM Joshua Hendrickson 
wrote:

> I've heard a lot of bad things about the blindshell phone.  I know of
> someone who had all kinds of problems with hers.  She got the speaker
> repaired once, then her second phone stopped working all together.
> She got herself an iPhone, and is much happier.  I wouldn't take a
> blindshell phone if you gave me one.
>
> On 5/3/21, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> > Hi Kate,
> >
> > I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But
> here
> > are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.   Click on the settings app.
> >
> > 2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.
> >
> > 3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.
> >
> > 4.   Close settings and you are done.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.
> >
> > If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over.
> If
> > you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.
> >
> > When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to
> > make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with
> > one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move
> your
> > finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So
> > say you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to
> open
> > settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you
> > hear settings to open the settings app.
> >
> >
> >
> > Let us know any other questions you may have.
> >
> > Mr. Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Kait Forbes
> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> >
> >
> >
> > okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
> > Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
> will
> > be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
> Let's
> > just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but
> > nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
> this
> > and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know
> that
> > I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard
> > time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not
> > overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things just
> one
> > step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I
> truly
> > believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just
> her
> > and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for
> her
> > but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for
> her as
> > she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you
> > here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be
> > forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I
> may?
> >  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to know she can
> use
> > it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If she starts with
> > this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any additional voice
> > commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds probably
> like
> > an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that is
> enough.
> > I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 1
> using
> > hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right
> > track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more
> > and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I
> > assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I
> > thank you very much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri in
> > Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five
> prompts,
> > so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my
> phone
> > nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an
> > emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be
> > used that way.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
Could you tell me if by doing this does it have to be in her voice to awake
it or can I set it up and she would be able to activate it?

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:00 PM Mr. Ed  wrote:

> Hi Kate,
>
> I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But
> here are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”
>
>
>
> 1.   Click on the settings app.
>
> 2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.
>
> 3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.
>
> 4.   Close settings and you are done.
>
>
>
> Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.
>
> If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If
> you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.
>
> When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to
> make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with
> one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your
> finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So
> say you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to
> open settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after
> you hear settings to open the settings app.
>
>
>
> Let us know any other questions you may have.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
> will be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
> Let's just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow
> but  nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
> this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I
> know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having
> a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do
> not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things
> just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.
> I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is
> just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone
> up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the
> plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot
> from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me ,
> I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start
> with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to
> know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If
> she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any
> additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this
> sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough
> that that is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she
> calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said
> am I on the right track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show
> her there is more and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten
> stuff I know but I assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you
> all understand?  I thank you very much for your kindness, support and
> consideration.  Kait
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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> 
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri in
> Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five prompts,
> so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone
> nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an
> emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be
> used that way.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Hi Kate,
> You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn on voice
> over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned on in
> settings or by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt.
> Mr. Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Shai
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of 

Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
I am not sure I understand this post?  Are you referring to another phone?
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:47 AM Larry Lumpkin 
wrote:

> I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs,
> who cares whether you can get rid of it or not.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Cryptic responses like this help no one.
> Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?
>
> We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>
> Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because
> when you get that phone you can’t get rid of it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful
> research.
> >
> > I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now
> is having some real issues; she can't even sell it.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> >
> > You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that
> would be easier for your grandmother.
> >
> > The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=OXIIonTfGLPMJP%2BWQunDjDmvla%2FZANZxE2GFGpIxqcU%3Dreserved=0
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> >
> >
> >On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Kait,
> >
> >
> >
> >This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device
> with adaptive technology.
> >
> >
> >
> >Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> >
> >
> >
> >Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is
> difficult in the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as
> voiceover the screen reader then you really start having clashs
> >
> >I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a
> mobile and computer.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >As you say just take it one step at a time,
> >
> >
> >
> >As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on,
> >
> >She should be able to use it to call 911,
> >
> >
> >
> >The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press
> 5 times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> >
> >
> >
> >Which may or may not be a good thing,
> >
> >
> >
> >Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now
> has an alert for people that have fallen
> >
> >So if you had a watch for your gran,
> >
> >The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency
> services know that she had fallen.
> >
> >
> >
> >Hope this is of some use,
> >
> >Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> >
> >
> >
> >From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Kait Forbes
> >Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
> >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> >
> >
> >
> >okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with
> my Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
> will be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
> Let's just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow
> but  nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
> this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I
> know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having
> a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do
> not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things
> just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.
>  I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is
> just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set 

Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Kait Forbes
Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to
the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.
She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this
position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
the darn phone it's a start.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>
> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and
> has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to
> her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
> phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>
> Kait
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
I'm not sure you can do that.
But, I suspect my phone remembers me even though I turned off listen for hey 
(what's her name) and rebooted.
I had my wife try saying the magic words and nothing so it must still be locked 
to my voice.

I am not going to investigate further.
 


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

I'm like you, Richard. I did not know you could just turn on Hay Siri. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Well,
I have never tried just turning it on.
That may work.
Then it won't be tailored to one voice.
I'll try that with my test phone.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Unless there have been update changes, when I set up Hay Siri, I had to go 
through the prompts saying what I was told to say so that Siri could learn to 
identify my voice. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kate,

I'll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But here 
are the step to turn on "Hey Siri."

 

1.   Click on the settings app.

2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.

3.   Click on "Listen to hey Siri" to turn this on.

4.   Close settings and you are done.

 

Now just say "Hey Siri what time is it?" and Siri should answer.

If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If you 
want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.

When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to make 
the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with one finger 
to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your finger around 
the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So say you are on the 
settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open settings you do a one 
finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you hear settings to open the 
settings app.

 

Let us know any other questions you may have.

Mr. Ed  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands 
phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 

RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

2021-05-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This happens on my PC when using Teams. I assume that Teams is trying to keep 
sound from the meeting from going back out over the air. This is nice since I 
don't have to worry about my screen reader coming through when I'm on a call 
through Teams, but my voice does break up if I'm talking when my screen reader 
kicks in. this happens whether I have head phones on or not. I'm not sure if 
Apple is trying to do the same thing to keep voiceOver from bleeding over onto 
a call.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

These days, I only do calls on earbuds. I regularly do other things when on 
hold with a company. I've found that VoiceOver talks over the person and 
hearing what they are saying and VoiceOver is difficult for me. Perhaps this is 
because I have a hearing loss, but VoiceOver to me is very loud when it speaks 
over top of the other caller. When using Facetime, there is a lot better 
balance when listening to VO and the other person.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 5/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> That could be the particular cell service, low  band width or something.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
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>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
> Not something anybody has ever told me when I was talking on the phone 
> while looking  up something else.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 3:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
> Note, though your caller will not hear your voiceover as voiceover is 
> speaking it will cause your voice to break up on the caller's side.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
>
> As long as I am somewhere where having the call on speakerphone 
> doesn't bother anybody it is not difficult to just take the phone away 
> from your ear which causes the call to go to speakerphone (as long as 
> you haven't disabled this feature). Then just swipe up from the bottom 
> just like you would when you want to go from any app back to the home 
> page, you can then open the Messages app or Contacts or any other app 
> and do whatever you want to do while you are talking to the other 
> person on speakerphone. I have never had anybody ask me what I am 
> doing which means the microphone does not seem to pick up Voiceover, 
> but if you find it distracting to have both the caller and Voiceover 
> on speaker you can of course use a headset except then you have both 
> the caller and Voiceover on the headset which to me is no different than 
> having both on the external speaker.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
> Hi, Carolyn. You can do this, but it is tricky. I usually use a 
> headset as has been suggested. I also try to adjust the volume of 
> voice over so there's a way to hear both the speech and the caller. 
> Sometimes it helps to use a male voice if speaking to a female and 
> vice versa. You should be able to do all of the things you listed 
> while on a phone call. I've gotten texts before, and depending on the 
> volume, the Voice over usually drowns out the person's speaking. Like I said, 
> it does take some practice.
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 4/30/2021 2:55 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> When in conversation on my iPhone, how do I:
>>
>> Check information in contacts and give it to the caller
>>
>> Send a text
>>
>> I don't see how I could receive a text and hear VoiceOver and the 
>> caller, but I could send one.
>>
>> My daughter-in-law does all kind of things on her phone while talking.
>>
>>
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RE: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
This is why I wish the owner of this list would switch to Groups.io where there 
is a reply to sender option at the bottom of each message.
Plus, there is a mute topic option so if a thread goes on that you have no 
interest in, you can mute the thread and never see those messages again without 
wearing out your delete key.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Clubhouse

This is just to let you guys know that you’re messages are still coming to the 
list. Mark just posted his phone number to a public list. I hope the spammers 
aren’t watching!  You might want to take these private and off list.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mark 
Brett
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Clubhouse

Hi it is +447966445226

Mark Brett

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On 3 May 2021, at 18:04, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, i need your phone number.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 20:02, ‏‏Mark Brett 
‏mailto:markbr...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
Hi thanks for your reply could you send me one please

Mark Brett

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On 3 May 2021, at 17:56, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, yes.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 19:49, ‏‏Mark Brett 
‏mailto:markbr...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
Hi, has anyone got an invitation for the clubhouse

Mark Brett

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On 3 May 2021, at 15:55, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages via 
Twitter direct messaging.
Regards,


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Clubhouse

Hi,
This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering can 
you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send a 
message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
Thanks,
Johna


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RE: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This is just to let you guys know that you’re messages are still coming to the 
list. Mark just posted his phone number to a public list. I hope the spammers 
aren’t watching!  You might want to take these private and off list.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mark 
Brett
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Clubhouse

Hi it is +447966445226

Mark Brett

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On 3 May 2021, at 18:04, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, i need your phone number.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי


‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 20:02, ‏‏Mark Brett 
‏mailto:markbr...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
Hi thanks for your reply could you send me one please

Mark Brett

Sent from my iPhone
Email: markbr...@gmail.com
SMS: 0796243
Phone: 08432086070
Twitter: markbrett1
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On 3 May 2021, at 17:56, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, yes.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי


‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 19:49, ‏‏Mark Brett 
‏mailto:markbr...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
Hi, has anyone got an invitation for the clubhouse

Mark Brett

Sent from my iPhone
Email: markbr...@gmail.com
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Phone: 08432086070
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Zello: markbrett1
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On 3 May 2021, at 15:55, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages via 
Twitter direct messaging.
Regards,


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Clubhouse

Hi,
This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering can 
you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send a 
message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
Thanks,
Johna


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Re: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Brett
Hi it is +447966445226 


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On 3 May 2021, at 18:04, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
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Yes, i need your phone number.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 20:02, ‏‏Mark Brett ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi thanks for your reply could you send me one please
> 
> 
> Mark Brett
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> 
> On 3 May 2021, at 17:56, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, yes.
> 
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
>> ‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 19:49, ‏‏Mark Brett ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>> 
>> Hi, has anyone got an invitation for the clubhouse
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Brett
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Phone: 08432086070
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>> 
>> On 3 May 2021, at 15:55, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages 
>> via Twitter direct messaging.
>> Regards,
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
>> Gravitt
>> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question about Clubhouse
>>  
>> Hi,
>> This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering 
>> can you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send 
>> a message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
>> Thanks,
>> Johna
>>  
>>  
>> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate
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Re: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
Yes, i need your phone number.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 20:02, ‏‏Mark Brett ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi thanks for your reply could you send me one please
> 
> 
> Mark Brett
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Email: markbr...@gmail.com
> SMS: 0796243
> Phone: 08432086070
> Twitter: markbrett1
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> 
> On 3 May 2021, at 17:56, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, yes.
> 
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
>> ‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 19:49, ‏‏Mark Brett ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>> 
>> Hi, has anyone got an invitation for the clubhouse
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Brett
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Email: markbr...@gmail.com
>> SMS: 0796243
>> Phone: 08432086070
>> Twitter: markbrett1
>> Zello: markbrett1
>> Skype markbrett1
>> 
>> On 3 May 2021, at 15:55, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages 
>> via Twitter direct messaging.
>> Regards,
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
>> Gravitt
>> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question about Clubhouse
>>  
>> Hi,
>> This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering 
>> can you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send 
>> a message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
>> Thanks,
>> Johna
>>  
>>  
>> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate
>> Bender Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
>> People with disabilities, access job openings at 
>> http://www.benderconsult.com/careers/job-openings
>> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
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Re: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Brett
Hi thanks for your reply could you send me one please


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On 3 May 2021, at 17:56, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
wrote:


Hi, yes.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 19:49, ‏‏Mark Brett ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi, has anyone got an invitation for the clubhouse
> 
> 
> Mark Brett
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Email: markbr...@gmail.com
> SMS: 0796243
> Phone: 08432086070
> Twitter: markbrett1
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> 
> On 3 May 2021, at 15:55, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> 
> No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages 
> via Twitter direct messaging.
> Regards,
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
> Gravitt
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about Clubhouse
>  
> Hi,
> This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering can 
> you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send a 
> message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
> Thanks,
> Johna
>  
>  
> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate
> Bender Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
> People with disabilities, access job openings at 
> http://www.benderconsult.com/careers/job-openings
> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
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Re: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
Hi, yes.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-3 במאי 2021, בשעה 19:49, ‏‏Mark Brett ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi, has anyone got an invitation for the clubhouse
> 
> 
> Mark Brett
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Email: markbr...@gmail.com
> SMS: 0796243
> Phone: 08432086070
> Twitter: markbrett1
> Zello: markbrett1
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> 
> On 3 May 2021, at 15:55, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> 
> No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages 
> via Twitter direct messaging.
> Regards,
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
> Gravitt
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about Clubhouse
>  
> Hi,
> This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering can 
> you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send a 
> message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
> Thanks,
> Johna
>  
>  
> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate
> Bender Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
> People with disabilities, access job openings at 
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
I'm like you, Richard. I did not know you could just turn on Hay Siri. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Well,
I have never tried just turning it on.
That may work.
Then it won't be tailored to one voice.
I'll try that with my test phone.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Unless there have been update changes, when I set up Hay Siri, I had to go 
through the prompts saying what I was told to say so that Siri could learn to 
identify my voice. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kate,

I'll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But here 
are the step to turn on "Hey Siri."

 

1.   Click on the settings app.

2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.

3.   Click on "Listen to hey Siri" to turn this on.

4.   Close settings and you are done.

 

Now just say "Hey Siri what time is it?" and Siri should answer.

If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If you 
want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.

When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to make 
the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with one finger 
to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your finger around 
the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So say you are on the 
settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open settings you do a one 
finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you hear settings to open the 
settings app.

 

Let us know any other questions you may have.

Mr. Ed  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands 
phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait

 

 

 

Virus-free. 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
Well Carolyn,
If someone cannot explain for themselves what their cryptic note means, it is 
not worth guessing.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Could be, Richard, he means something like that the phone gives such poor 
service that he can't get rid of it like my friend. She keeps having to remove 
and replace her battery to try to get it to work. The speaker has poor quality, 
far superior on her Kyocera now. She cannot dictate texts on the Shell like she 
can on her Kyocera. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> 
> 
>okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
> Grands phone.  

Re: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Brett
Hi, has anyone got an invitation for the clubhouse


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On 3 May 2021, at 15:55, Cris Ali  wrote:


No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages via 
Twitter direct messaging.
Regards,
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Clubhouse
 
Hi,
This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering can 
you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send a 
message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
Thanks,
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
Well,
I have never tried just turning it on.
That may work.
Then it won't be tailored to one voice.
I'll try that with my test phone.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Unless there have been update changes, when I set up Hay Siri, I had to go 
through the prompts saying what I was told to say so that Siri could learn to 
identify my voice. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kate,

I'll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But here 
are the step to turn on "Hey Siri."

 

1.   Click on the settings app.

2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.

3.   Click on "Listen to hey Siri" to turn this on.

4.   Close settings and you are done.

 

Now just say "Hey Siri what time is it?" and Siri should answer.

If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If you 
want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.

When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to make 
the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with one finger 
to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your finger around 
the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So say you are on the 
settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open settings you do a one 
finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you hear settings to open the 
settings app.

 

Let us know any other questions you may have.

Mr. Ed  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands 
phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait

 

 

 

Virus-free. 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
Unless there have been update changes, when I set up Hay Siri, I had to go 
through the prompts saying what I was told to say so that Siri could learn to 
identify my voice. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kate,

I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But here 
are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”

 

1.   Click on the settings app.

2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.

3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.

4.   Close settings and you are done.

 

Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.

If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If you 
want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.

When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to make 
the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with one finger 
to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your finger around 
the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So say you are on the 
settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open settings you do a one 
finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you hear settings to open the 
settings app.

 

Let us know any other questions you may have.

Mr. Ed  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands 
phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com 

  

 

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri 
in Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five prompts, 
so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone 
nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an emergency, 
I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be used that way. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kate,
You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn on 
voice over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
Could be, Richard, he means something like that the phone gives such poor 
service that he can't get rid of it like my friend. She keeps having to remove 
and replace her battery to try to get it to work. The speaker has poor quality, 
far superior on her Kyocera now. She cannot dictate texts on the Shell like she 
can on her Kyocera. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
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> 
> 
>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> 
> 
>okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will 
> be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's 
> just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  
> nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this 
> and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that 
> I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time 
> with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm 
> her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a 
> time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in 
> time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here 
> and I work outside the home. I 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
My friend had nothing but problems with the Blind Shell. She's been blind all 
her life and is pretty good with devices. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> 
> 
>okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will 
> be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's 
> just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  
> nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this 
> and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that 
> I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time 
> with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm 
> her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a 
> time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in 
> time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here 
> and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon 
> realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for her as she was 
> for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you here but if 
> you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  
> Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would 
> be helpful to start with getting her to know she can use it for emergency 
> calls or to call me when I am away.  If she starts with this will she be able 
> to keep the speaker on without any additional voice commands or the need to 
> do anything else.  I know this sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of 
> thing but I know her well enough that that is enough.  I have my number in 
> the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would 
> be no problem.  this being said am I on the right track?  and if so what 
> would or could I do next to show her there is more and to build her 
> confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you this is how 
> it must be done.  I 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
My friend's Kyocera was $270 - nine dollars a month for 30 with AT Other 
servers would have equivalent. But, they require research. How much speech do 
they have? Can you dictate text, which she can on this Kyocera? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Is the Blind Shell classic at elast a 4G phone?

No one should put money into anything less than a 4G phone since 3G is going 
fast.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

I, too, am a former rehab teacher as was my wife. If your grandmother is newly 
blinded and has never used technology before, she may have a very difficult 
time in mastering what is for sure a complex piece of technology. Might I 
suggest something that might be, to her, much easier and more satisfying. There 
are several made for the blind special-purpose phones. I think the least 
expensive of these is the blindShell Classic which sells for around $350. I 
know this is expensive but it might be the best solution for her.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I've heard a lot of bad things about the blindshell phone.  I know of
someone who had all kinds of problems with hers.  She got the speaker
repaired once, then her second phone stopped working all together.
She got herself an iPhone, and is much happier.  I wouldn't take a
blindshell phone if you gave me one.

On 5/3/21, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> Hi Kate,
>
> I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But here
> are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”
>
>
>
> 1.   Click on the settings app.
>
> 2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.
>
> 3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.
>
> 4.   Close settings and you are done.
>
>
>
> Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.
>
> If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If
> you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.
>
> When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to
> make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with
> one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your
> finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So
> say you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open
> settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you
> hear settings to open the settings app.
>
>
>
> Let us know any other questions you may have.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kait Forbes
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will
> be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's
> just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but
> nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this
> and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that
> I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard
> time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not
> overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one
> step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly
> believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just her
> and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her
> but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for her as
> she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you
> here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be
> forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I may?
>  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to know she can use
> it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If she starts with
> this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any additional voice
> commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds probably like
> an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that is enough.
> I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 1 using
> hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right
> track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more
> and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I
> assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I
> thank you very much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> Virus-free.
> 
> www.avg.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri in
> Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five prompts,
> so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone
> nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an
> emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be
> used that way.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Hi Kate,
> You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn on voice
> over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned on in
> settings or by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt.
> Mr. Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

2021-05-03 Thread Wayne Merritt
These days, I only do calls on earbuds. I regularly do other things
when on hold with a company. I've found that VoiceOver talks over the
person and hearing what they are saying and VoiceOver is difficult for
me. Perhaps this is because I have a hearing loss, but VoiceOver to me
is very loud when it speaks over top of the other caller. When using
Facetime, there is a lot better balance when listening to VO and the
other person.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 5/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> That could be the particular cell service, low  band width or something.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
> Not something anybody has ever told me when I was talking on the phone while
> looking  up something else.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 3:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
> Note, though your caller will not hear your voiceover as voiceover is
> speaking it will cause your voice to break up on the caller's side.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
>
> As long as I am somewhere where having the call on speakerphone doesn't
> bother anybody it is not difficult to just take the phone away from your ear
> which causes the call to go to speakerphone (as long as you haven't disabled
> this feature). Then just swipe up from the bottom just like you would when
> you want to go from any app back to the home page, you can then open the
> Messages app or Contacts or any other app and do whatever you want to do
> while you are talking to the other person on speakerphone. I have never had
> anybody ask me what I am doing which means the microphone does not seem to
> pick up Voiceover, but if you find it distracting to have both the caller
> and Voiceover on speaker you can of course use a headset except then you
> have both the caller and Voiceover on the headset which to me is no
> different than having both on the external speaker.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa
> Belville
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.
>
> Hi, Carolyn. You can do this, but it is tricky. I usually use a headset as
> has been suggested. I also try to adjust the volume of voice over so there's
> a way to hear both the speech and the caller. Sometimes it helps to use a
> male voice if speaking to a female and vice versa. You should be able to do
> all of the things you listed while on a phone call. I've gotten texts
> before, and depending on the volume, the Voice over usually drowns out the
> person's speaking. Like I said, it does take some practice.
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 4/30/2021 2:55 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> When in conversation on my iPhone, how do I:
>>
>> Check information in contacts and give it to the caller
>>
>> Send a text
>>
>> I don't see how I could receive a text and hear VoiceOver and the
>> caller, but I could send one.
>>
>> My daughter-in-law does all kind of things on her phone while talking.
>>
>>
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Kate,

I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But here 
are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”

 

1.   Click on the settings app.

2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.

3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.

4.   Close settings and you are done.

 

Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.

If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If you 
want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.

When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to make 
the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with one finger 
to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your finger around 
the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So say you are on the 
settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to open settings you do a one 
finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you hear settings to open the 
settings app.

 

Let us know any other questions you may have.

Mr. Ed  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands 
phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait

 


 

 

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri in 
Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five prompts, so 
that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone nearby 
when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an emergency, I can 
say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be used that way. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kate,
You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn on voice over 
or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned on in settings or 
by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shai
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Hello Kate,
I'd also be happy to help. The tripple press of the home button is only in 
effect when the phone has been turned on for the first time.
If it's already been set up, then the user would go to 
settings/accessibility/accessibility shortcut and select VoiceOver to configure 
this.
After that, then use 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs, who 
cares whether you can get rid of it or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> 
> 
>okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will 
> be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's 
> just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  
> nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this 
> and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that 
> I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time 
> with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm 
> her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a 
> time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in 
> time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here 
> and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon 
> realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for her as she was 
> for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you here but if 
> you could see your way clear to assisting 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
It is.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Is the Blind Shell classic at elast a 4G phone?

No one should put money into anything less than a 4G phone since 3G is going 
fast.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

I, too, am a former rehab teacher as was my wife. If your grandmother is newly 
blinded and has never used technology before, she may have a very difficult 
time in mastering what is for sure a complex piece of technology. Might I 
suggest something that might be, to her, much easier and more satisfying. There 
are several made for the blind special-purpose phones. I think the least 
expensive of these is the blindShell Classic which sells for around $350. I 
know this is expensive but it might be the best solution for her.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



Richard
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they become by it."
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Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=OXIIonTfGLPMJP%2BWQunDjDmvla%2FZANZxE2GFGpIxqcU%3Dreserved=0
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> 
> 
>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> 
> 
>okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will 
> be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's 
> just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  
> nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this 
> and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that 
> I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time 
> with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm 
> her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a 
> time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in 
> time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here 
> and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon 
> realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for her as she was 
> for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you here but if 
> you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  
> Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would 
> be helpful to start with getting her to know she can use it for emergency 
> calls or to call me when I am away.  If she starts with this will she be able 
> to keep the speaker on without any 

Re: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Michael Irons
Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> 
> 
>okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will 
> be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's 
> just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  
> nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this 
> and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that 
> I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time 
> with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm 
> her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a 
> time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in 
> time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here 
> and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon 
> realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for her as she was 
> for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you here but if 
> you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  
> Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would 
> be helpful to start with getting her to know she can use it for emergency 
> calls or to call me when I am away.  If she starts with this will she be able 
> to keep the speaker on without any additional voice commands or the need to 
> do anything else.  I know this sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of 
> thing but I know her well enough that that is enough.  I have my number in 
> the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would 
> be no problem.  this being said am I on the right track?  and if so what 
> would or could I do next to show her there is more and to build her 
> confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you this is how 
> it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very much for 
> your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
Is the Blind Shell classic at elast a 4G phone?
No one should put money into anything less than a 4G phone since 3G is going 
fast.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

I, too, am a former rehab teacher as was my wife. If your grandmother is newly 
blinded and has never used technology before, she may have a very difficult 
time in mastering what is for sure a complex piece of technology. Might I 
suggest something that might be, to her, much easier and more satisfying. There 
are several made for the blind special-purpose phones. I think the least 
expensive of these is the blindShell Classic which sells for around $350. I 
know this is expensive but it might be the best solution for her.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance

Good morning everyone,

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.
Kait
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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Carolyn
There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful research. 

I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is giving 
up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is having 
some real issues; she can't even sell it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
be easier for your grandmother. 
 
The flat screen can really put people off at first.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  
wrote:



 

Hi Kait,

 

This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
adaptive technology.

 

Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.

 

Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult 
in the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
screen reader then you really start having clashs 

I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a 
mobile and computer.

 

 

As you say just take it one step at a time,

 

As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 

She should be able to use it to call 911,

 

The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
times  should give you an sos format of calling,

 

Which may or may not be a good thing,

 

Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has 
an alert for people that have fallen 

So if you had a watch for your gran,

The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency 
services know that she had fallen.

 

Hope this is of some use,

Good luck and feel free to ask anything.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait

 


 

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RE: Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Cris Ali
No you can’t text chat in club house. People usually exchange text messages via 
Twitter direct messaging.
Regards,


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Clubhouse

Hi,
This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I’m wondering can 
you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send a 
message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
Thanks,
Johna


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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I, too, am a former rehab teacher as was my wife. If your grandmother is newly 
blinded and has never used technology before, she may have a very difficult 
time in mastering what is for sure a complex piece of technology. Might I 
suggest something that might be, to her, much easier and more satisfying. There 
are several made for the blind special-purpose phones. I think the least 
expensive of these is the blindShell Classic which sells for around $350. I 
know this is expensive but it might be the best solution for her.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance

Good morning everyone,

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.
Kait
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Question about Clubhouse

2021-05-03 Thread Johna Gravitt
Hi,
This may have already been covered in a previous thread but I'm wondering can 
you chat in clubhouse, rather than using voice?  If so, how do you send a 
message to others in a room or on your buddy list?
Thanks,
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RE: Removing Selected Items From The Rotor Help Please.

2021-05-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If your region is set to Australia then that is the first thing you should fix.
This is easily done in Settings > General > Language and Region.
First make sure your Language is set to English and then further down that your 
Region is set to United States.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 6:13 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: FW: Removing Selected Items From The Rotor Help Please.



From: janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2021 11:59 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Removing Selected Items From The Rotor Help Please.



From: janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2021 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Removing Selected Items From The Rotor Help Please.

HI Sieghard,
I know about taking focus away from the rotor, and that I did.  The phone won’t 
let me delete any voices.  The phone some way some how, has my region as 
Australia instead of US America.  This is a total mess! LOL!   I know I 
wouldn’t have made such a mistake to download a voice from Australia though.  I 
went through the voice options, and I seen Siri 1, Siri 2, Siri 3, Siri 4, and 
I double tapped on Siri 4, and it downloaded, and that is when my nightmare 
began.  So it looks like I only have two choices and those are either throw the 
phone out the window, or do what Apple recommended for me to do, and that is to 
do a network reset!  LOL!  Thank you so much for all your help though.  It is 
greatly appreciated.


Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Removing Selected Items From The Rotor Help Please.

Janet, if you still have the Australian voice in the rotor then you have 
downloaded it and you first hav eto go to Voiceover Settings > Speech and 
delete it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Removing Selected Items From The Rotor Help Please.

Hi Richard,
I only have the one language as my default. I’ve never added language to the 
rotor either.  Although, in the rotor a female’s  voice says English default, I 
swipe up again, then a male’s voice says Australia, I swipe up again then  
another female’s voice says US English.  I think I made some kind of headway 
when I went in to the language and region settings though, because at least it 
now says in the rotor US English default instead of saying Australia default.  
Although, I went back in to the language and region settings, and the default 
was set to Australian.   I selected English US as default, and I got a message 
saying if I select US English, this setting will restart my phone, I still 
selected the US English, but the phone didn’t restart, and I didn’t get any 
message to confirm this setting such as saving the setting, so I just closed it 
out.  I went back and sure enough, US English is not set as my default though.  
Although now in the rotor I do hear the US language, but the two other 
languages are still there, and rather I’m  reading the news, or just swiping 
the voices will suddenly change!  I only know one language and that is US 
English, that is wy I wouldn’t have added language to the rotor.  Apple says 
they haven’t heard anyone else talking about this issue that I’m having!  Can 
you imagine!  LOL!  This isn’t good!

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 7:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Removing Selected Items From The Rotor Help Please.

You cannot remove language from the rotor, it appears if you have more than one 
language selected, that is, a rotor language as well as the default language.
So, if you only have the default voice, my understanding is, you should not see 
Language in the rotor.


Richard
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On Apr 30, 2021, at 4:38 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Ok, now I could have sworn I removed language from my Rotor, but now, it 
appears language is back on the rotor.  I spent quite a bit of time on the 
phone with Apple, and I explained my issue I was having with my phone in which 
I downloaded Siri 4 after updating to iOS 14.5, and I couldn't get rid of her, 
and I couldn't seem to understand quite a bit of what she was saying, so now, I 
did get my voiceover default Samantha back.  My question is how can I remove 
the language from my rotor as this keeps 

RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

2021-05-03 Thread Richard Turner
That could be the particular cell service, low  band width or something.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

Not something anybody has ever told me when I was talking on the phone while 
looking  up something else.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 3:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

Note, though your caller will not hear your voiceover as voiceover is speaking 
it will cause your voice to break up on the caller's side.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.


As long as I am somewhere where having the call on speakerphone doesn't bother 
anybody it is not difficult to just take the phone away from your ear which 
causes the call to go to speakerphone (as long as you haven't disabled this 
feature). Then just swipe up from the bottom just like you would when you want 
to go from any app back to the home page, you can then open the Messages app or 
Contacts or any other app and do whatever you want to do while you are talking 
to the other person on speakerphone. I have never had anybody ask me what I am 
doing which means the microphone does not seem to pick up Voiceover, but if you 
find it distracting to have both the caller and Voiceover on speaker you can of 
course use a headset except then you have both the caller and Voiceover on the 
headset which to me is no different than having both on the external speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

Hi, Carolyn. You can do this, but it is tricky. I usually use a headset as has 
been suggested. I also try to adjust the volume of voice over so there's a way 
to hear both the speech and the caller. Sometimes it helps to use a male voice 
if speaking to a female and vice versa. You should be able to do all of the 
things you listed while on a phone call. I've gotten texts before, and 
depending on the volume, the Voice over usually drowns out the person's 
speaking. Like I said, it does take some practice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 4/30/2021 2:55 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> When in conversation on my iPhone, how do I:
>
> Check information in contacts and give it to the caller
>
> Send a text
>
> I don't see how I could receive a text and hear VoiceOver and the 
> caller, but I could send one.
>
> My daughter-in-law does all kind of things on her phone while talking.
>
>

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RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

2021-05-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not something anybody has ever told me when I was talking on the phone while 
looking  up something else.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 3:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

Note, though your caller will not hear your voiceover as voiceover is speaking 
it will cause your voice to break up on the caller's side.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.


As long as I am somewhere where having the call on speakerphone doesn't bother 
anybody it is not difficult to just take the phone away from your ear which 
causes the call to go to speakerphone (as long as you haven't disabled this 
feature). Then just swipe up from the bottom just like you would when you want 
to go from any app back to the home page, you can then open the Messages app or 
Contacts or any other app and do whatever you want to do while you are talking 
to the other person on speakerphone. I have never had anybody ask me what I am 
doing which means the microphone does not seem to pick up Voiceover, but if you 
find it distracting to have both the caller and Voiceover on speaker you can of 
course use a headset except then you have both the caller and Voiceover on the 
headset which to me is no different than having both on the external speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

Hi, Carolyn. You can do this, but it is tricky. I usually use a headset as has 
been suggested. I also try to adjust the volume of voice over so there's a way 
to hear both the speech and the caller. Sometimes it helps to use a male voice 
if speaking to a female and vice versa. You should be able to do all of the 
things you listed while on a phone call. I've gotten texts before, and 
depending on the volume, the Voice over usually drowns out the person's 
speaking. Like I said, it does take some practice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 4/30/2021 2:55 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> When in conversation on my iPhone, how do I:
>
> Check information in contacts and give it to the caller
>
> Send a text
>
> I don't see how I could receive a text and hear VoiceOver and the 
> caller, but I could send one.
>
> My daughter-in-law does all kind of things on her phone while talking.
>
>

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FW: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Karen Poulakos
Hi,

 

I sent this message last night, but for some reason got a message saying that 
it didn’t go through.  So am trying again.

 

From: Karen Poulakos [mailto:ka...@poulakos.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:45 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Hi Kait,

 

Once you have turned VoiceOver on, you might just have her explore the home 
screen by sliding her finger around the screen.  Help her to recognize that the 
apps are arranged in columns on the screen. She can activate an app by just 
sliding her finger until she hears the name of the app she wants to open, then 
tapping the screen twice.

 

She can also activate an app by asking Siri to open it.  I’m still using the 
older model SE phone, and am not sure how Siri is accessed on the newer phone. 

 

If you can set up her contacts for her, she can place a phone call by asking 
Siri to call the name in her contacts ( like: “call Kait”).  She can also open 
Contacts in the Phone app, and locate the name of the person she wants to call, 
tap it to open the contact, and after locating the phone number on the screen 
can call it.

 

The iPhone is pretty amazing!  There are so many helpful apps that will aid her 
in becoming more independent.  If you stay with this group, we can make 
suggestions as you are ready for them.  There are apps that help with 
identifying currency and , color.  There are apps that enable scanning of text 
on documents, and food packaging, etc.  The list goes on.

 

You could have her start by examining the Weather app.  I check that one every 
day.  Any apps that she may not need can be moved to another page where they 
will be out of her way, to make things less confusing.

 

You can make adjustments to Voiceover in Settings, under Accessibility.  There 
are several options there.  

 

Don’t hesitate to ask questions.

 

Karen P 

 

rom: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands 
phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri in 
Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five prompts, so 
that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone nearby 
when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an emergency, I can 
say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be used that way. 

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RE: In need of assistance

2021-05-03 Thread Star Gazer
Do you mean an Iphone? 
Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she likes, 
they all sound different and everybody has a preference
What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want to do 
with her phone? 
I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?


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Subject: In need of assistance

Good morning everyone,

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.
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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I got the Bose Alto Frames a few years ago from Best Buy for $200. I'd suggest 
looking around, since it looks like these are now $170 from Bose and other 
places.

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Doc Wright
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Oops,I forgot to mention that mine were $249 which I pay via a payment plan. 
bose has a payment plan.
- Original Message - 
From: "Casey Wollner" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: Bose frames


Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they 
also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but 
work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones
 work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when issuing a Siri command 
via its multifunction button which is totally unnecessary with other brands.



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so 
I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now 
is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I 
would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned 
Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of equipment that 
will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good.  Thanks so much for 
your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy

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Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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RE: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Depends on where you are,

JB HiFi have them here in NZ, as does harvy normans,

But online as well,

 For us here in NZ,
You wont get the tenor or tempo etc less than 400 

But hey they are to me worth while.

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Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 6:42 pm
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Subject: Re: Bose frames

I got mine on QVC but you can also go to www.bose.com

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From: "Casey Wollner" 
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Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: Bose frames


Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they 
also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but 
work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones
 work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when issuing a Siri command 
via its multifunction button which is totally unnecessary with other brands.



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so 
I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now 
is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I 
would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned 
Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of equipment that 
will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good.  Thanks so much for 
your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy

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Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Re: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Oops,I forgot to mention that mine were $249 which I pay via a payment plan. 
bose has a payment plan.
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 5:42 PM
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Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they 
also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but 
work the best for me.


My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones
work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when issuing a Siri command 
via its multifunction button which is totally unnecessary with other brands.




Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so 
I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now 
is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I 
would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned 
Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of equipment that 
will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good.  Thanks so much for 
your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy


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Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Re: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Robert Doc Wright

I got mine on QVC but you can also go to
www.bose.com

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From: "Casey Wollner" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: Bose frames


Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they 
also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but 
work the best for me.


My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones
work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when issuing a Siri command 
via its multifunction button which is totally unnecessary with other brands.




Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so 
I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now 
is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I 
would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned 
Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of equipment that 
will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good.  Thanks so much for 
your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy


Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Re: Bose frames

2021-05-03 Thread Robert Doc Wright

They are Sunglasses with speakers built into the frames.
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Subject: Re: Bose frames


So just for clarification, are these devices headphones or some sort of 
speaker system? I've never heard of them.



On May 2, 2021, at 10:39 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap 
around style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some 
of the others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I 
wear them every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books 
and they also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are 
expensive but work the best for me.


My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way 
that AfterShokz headphones
work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when issuing a Siri command 
via its multifunction button which is totally unnecessary with other 
brands.




Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great 
so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing 
now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, 
I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I 
mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of 
equipment that will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good. 
Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy


Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Salem, MA. 01970
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