Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

At 11:45 AM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: I believe that is what the demand for independent university or government tests are for. If he offered to sell you one, on condition that you could test it to your satisfaction before paying (clams?), would you buy it?

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Radio

At 05:15 PM 11/16/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Good job. Thanks ... I was just defending my honour, though ! It is hard to keep track of these details, isn't it? Yup.  Any chance of asking Celani to ask Galantini if he brought the Delta Ohm "Steam Quality" stuff? http://sverigesradio.se/sida/grupps

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

> If you came from a community that did not use levers and never > developed the rudiments of lever science, how would you react upon > hearing a story that one man shifted a stone with a branch that you > KNOW from the stones description should require at least 8 strong men? > > Is the story a tal

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Joshua Cude >> wrote: >> > >> >> > So, if you trust the reported *measurements*, then they are consistent >> > with >> > no excess energy at all

Re: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

That's kinda what I have been saying, that magnetism is not a conserved property of the universe. I, however, correctly identified the nuclear magnetic or nuclear spin orbit force and the actor. Frank Znidarsic http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389211006092

Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

If Rossi did use three cores (assuming he didn't before): The energy output may increase, but we'd still still be without any method to acually measure it, because of his calorimetry. The energy consumed would have tripled, too, with a zero-net-gain possibility still on the table. The October 6t

Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:13 AM, David Roberson wrote: > I expect a lot of people witnessing the operation of a 470 kW cold fusion > system would be dazzled. Some can not be dazzled at all by any means. > Those not dazzled by this are missing history unfold before them. > Why complain about lea

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Harry Veeder wrote: > >> >> The only reason to do a blank test is to test the competency/honesty >> of the experimenter. > > A blank test can be faked as easily as any other, so it would not test the > honesty of experimenter. > - Jed > If y

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Energy_By_Motion_(EBM)#Funds_Raised 2011/11/17 Jed Rothwell > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > Oh, well, I just found this: >> >> Funds Raised >> >> "They have been able to raise close to $100 million to start building >> these units." >> > > Where did you find tha

Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

I expect a lot of people witnessing the operation of a 470 kW cold fusion system would be dazzled. Some can not be dazzled at all by any means. Those not dazzled by this are missing history unfold before them. Why complain about leaks? Is that your main problem? The main show was the big sy

Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:35 AM, David Roberson wrote: > It is unfortunate that Mr. Rossi did not use all three cores of his ECAT > for the October 6, 2011 test. The results would have indicated at least > 2 times the observed energy production. > I have completed an extensive review of the dat

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 17.11.2011 19:04, schrieb Mary Yugo: > When it goes to court then there are aways professional engineers and > other witnesses and experts that have seen working devices. > Natural physical laws are not justice laws. The second law of >

RE: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

Oscillon or soliton? Not sure which. The difference can be subtle. Neither is gainful on its own, but that is not the end-of-story. A good analogy is the 'rogue wave' on the ocean (which is a rare massive energy anomaly) but is not evidence of net gain. The net gain would then need to come

Re: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Unlike the earlier situation – where Henri demonstrated that the new kind of > radiation did not depend on an “external source” of energy (but came > spontaneously from within the metal) the source of energy in > Nanomagnetism/Energy Locali

[Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

It is unfortunate that Mr. Rossi did not use all three cores of his ECAT for the October 6, 2011 test. The results would have indicated at least 2 times the observed energy production. I have completed an extensive review of the data collected during that October 6 test and it is apparent that

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Leslie Szabo on esowatch: http://esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Leslie_Szab%C3%B3 Note that this is the same machine apparently marketed by Schneider. This seems to be the English language site for it: http://www.gammamanager.com/index.html That photo also appears on Schneider's web site. On

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Am 17.11.2011 19:04, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Peter Heckert > wrote: Its new technology and sometimes it goes wrong, who cannot understand this. It can go wrong occasionally but if it goes wrong mainly when it's properly tes

Re: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > *From:* Terry Blanton > > ** ** > > Imagine yourself in Paris around the turn of the century. You would have > been at a similar “loss for words.” But the establishment found a way to > save face, as always. > > ** ** > > Wait a minu

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > One more minor point about the blank. I just remembered that the amount >> of hydrogen Rossi claims is required for relatively short tests is >> negligible in terms of heat of adsorption or reaction with nickel -- it's

RE: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

From: Terry Blanton "Apparently, energy localization at the nano-scale circumvents the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics." Blasphemy! Not really "blasphemy" - closer to "semantics-in-action". If Ahern is correct, and many on Vortex will appreciate that he builds on Dirac (Hotson's version) for

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

Mary Yugo wrote: One more minor point about the blank. I just remembered that the amount of > hydrogen Rossi claims is required for relatively short tests is negligible > in terms of heat of adsorption or reaction with nickel -- it's around a > gram if I recall correctly. So it would be unlikel

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:ECAT site claims "thin Ni layer at center of reactor core"

Ron, Temp is an average measurement and varies more and more widely with localization especially, IMHO, when Casimir geometry is involved... fractional hydrogen could achieve these temps where Casimir confinement is most extreme. These "hot spots" may be what Rossi is both trying to protect and

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > A blank test can be faked as easily as any other, so it would not test the > honesty of experimenter. > A blank test can indeed be faked. It just adds a layer of difficulty to the faking process and complicates scamming. It's only of val

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Daniel Rocha wrote: Oh, well, I just found this: > > Funds Raised > > "They have been able to raise close to $100 million to start building > these units." > Where did you find that? Please list the URL when you quote things like this. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 17.11.2011 18:30, schrieb Joshua Cude: > > You dont know the DVR (German Association for Vacuumenergy) There are so > many professors and doctors and engineers. > Some emeritus, some still active. Can all these be in error? They all say >

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

Harry Veeder wrote: > The only reason to do a blank test is to test the competency/honesty > of the experimenter. > A blank test can be faked as easily as any other, so it would not test the honesty of experimenter. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Oh, well, I just found this: Funds Raised "They have been able to raise close to $100 million to start building these units." 2011/11/17 Daniel Rocha > It seems that a patent was granted in US and it was not revoked. It > doesn't seem a perpetual motion engine Reading with more attention, it j

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 17.11.2011 17:49, schrieb Mary Yugo: No no. Schneiders Company is a > successful long time runner in this business. > For those who dont know it: AG means "Aktiengesellschaft", this is a > stock corporation. > Now, having the e-cat on bo

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Am 17.11.2011 18:30, schrieb Joshua Cude: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Peter Heckert mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de>> wrote: No no. Schneiders Company is a successful long time runner in this business. [...] He says the energy comes out of space and electronspin. Sc

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > At 02:40 AM 11/17/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: > >> Or use two ecats. Then of course you'd need someone independent to select >> which one to use for the blank run. >> > > Solves nothing. In fact, nor does my proposed protocol. > > Rossi jus

Re: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

Nice piccy of an oscillon on this page: http://www.mech.northwestern.edu/web/people/faculty/umbanhowar/ T

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > >> >> Just out of curiosity, do I need to keep arguing in favor of calibration >> with a blank? Is there anyone else who doesn't get why it's desirable? >> Even essential? I understand

Re: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

Examining the web's limited oscillon information, it would appear that it is important that the powder not be bound to the side of the reactor as conjectured by others. The powder must remain free and could be located in the center of the reactor as stated on the ecat.com web site. Also, if oscil

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

At 02:40 AM 11/17/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: Or use two ecats. Then of course you'd need someone independent to select which one to use for the blank run. Solves nothing. In fact, nor does my proposed protocol. Rossi just "turns on" the fakium for the live run, and leaves it off for the "blank

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: > No no. Schneiders Company is a successful long time runner in this > business. > [...] > > He says the energy comes out of space and electronspin. > > Schneider's company is currently building a prototype for Professor > Turturs magnetic

Re: [Vo]:ECAT site claims "thin Ni layer at center of reactor core"

May be feasible, but I still see the current designs as prototypes that need a lot more industrial design work. Ron --On Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:09 PM +0100 Man on Bridges wrote: Hi, On 17-11-2011 17:44, Ron Wormus wrote: I don't see his current prototypes as having commercial value

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

If this E-cat business turns out, as I strongly suspect it will, to be a scam, I suspect Rossi will be the only scammer among the "usual suspects". Along the way, he will have had to have accomplices and helpers -- some with knowledge and some without. I doubt Focardi was in on any scam. I have n

Re: [Vo]:ECAT site claims "thin Ni layer at center of reactor core"

True enough but the temp is a bit higher. I just don't see igniting a plasma at those pressures with the input power being reported. Ron --On Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:50 PM -0200 Daniel Rocha wrote: Sun's core operates in even higher pressure! :) 2011/11/17 Ron Wormus What makes you

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Marcello Vitale wrote: > Having agents or other sales organizations is normal for B2B, where the > customer wants support for the product, asks a lot of questions, is an > expert of what he/she is buying. Again, it is not normal for retail > snake-oil peddlers to a

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Am 17.11.2011 17:49, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Daniel Rocha > wrote: Oh, they answered: These people seem to be selling self-running (or almost self-running) magnetic motors. I would be very suspicious that those are a scam simi

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

The only reason to do a blank test is to test the competency/honesty of the experimenter. harry On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Easiest and most useful way to do blank test is that there are two eCats > running in parallel. First eCat is running with hydrogen pressure an

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Joshua Cude > wrote: > > > > > So, if you trust the reported *measurements*, then they are consistent > with > > no excess energy at all. You have to trust their *assumptions* to get a > lot > > of excess en

Re: [Vo]:ECAT site claims "thin Ni layer at center of reactor core"

Hi, On 17-11-2011 17:44, Ron Wormus wrote: I don't see his current prototypes as having commercial value as the refueling process (every 6 months?) will be very labor intensive for 100+ reactors each buried inside a lead shielded insulated box. Not at all, ever heard of replacement modules? T

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

It seems that a patent was granted in US and it was not revoked. It doesn't seem a perpetual motion engine Reading with more attention, it just seems this is a generator with higher efficiency. That is, where a normal does, say, 1MW, this will output like 10% - 50% more. It doesn't state the input.

Re: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > This theory, or a version of it, could be behind more than Rossi and LENR, > in general ... > > http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1826 > > Note sure what the Citi5 group is ... other than opportunists > > They appear to be non-profit opportunists.

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Apparently, this guy only resells that device, just like he is doing with the e-cat and is also a German version of Sterlin. This is the page about the product: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Energy_By_Motion_(EBM) This is the page: http://www.gammamanager.com/ The inventor is prof. Sz

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > So, if you trust the reported *measurements*, then they are consistent with > no excess energy at all. You have to trust their *assumptions* to get a lot > of excess energy. And their assumptions are highly implausible, because they > requir

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

Hi, You know it's not so much that theory 1 could not be true, but it's so damned unlikely that if I were you, I would write this scenario into a story book for a movie and sell the rights to a production company, I think this would make a good blockbuster. Kind regards, MoB

Re: [Vo]:ECAT site claims "thin Ni layer at center of reactor core"

Sun's core operates in even higher pressure! :) 2011/11/17 Ron Wormus > What makes you think that a plasma is formed in Ross's device? It operates > at high pressure (25 Bars) so I doubt that plasma is involved at all. > > >

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Oh, they answered: > These people seem to be selling self-running (or almost self-running) magnetic motors. I would be very suspicious that those are a scam similar to Steorn's. The translation is weird but their association with Rossi may

Re: [Vo]:Bowing out of the discussion for a while

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > I've got too much other stuff I'm not getting too, and the Rossi > discussion is looking to be interminable. > > If my will power falters I'll unsubscribe for a while; absent that I'll be > trying to ignore goings-on here, partly in the

Re: [Vo]:ECAT site claims "thin Ni layer at center of reactor core"

What makes you think that a plasma is formed in Ross's device? It operates at high pressure (25 Bars) so I doubt that plasma is involved at all. I would like to hear some speculation on his reason for using many small reactors instead of larger devices. Is it due to safety concerns or is it the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Berke Durak wrote: > Theory 1. > > At some point Rossi decided to attempt a large scam. He somehow > talked Focardi and some others into this. I don't think that's necessary. Focardi was already a strong believer in H-Ni fusion, so he would have been easy to co

Re: [Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

*"Apparently, energy localization at the nano-scale circumvents the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics."* * * *Blasphemy!* * * *T * On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > This theory, or a version of it, could be behind more than Rossi and LENR, > in general ... > > http://citi5.org/laun

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Berke Durak wrote: > > The problem is that I know of a storage mechanism that doesn't involve > Rossi, > Focardi, etc. conspiring to deceive and developing specific technology for > that. > > How one can accidentally store 1 GJ in the modules and release it nicely

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

Oh, come on, you guys are so hard on Rossi because you don't consider other real-time examples of choosing badly one's associates. In Italy, the most rigorous law-and-order party ended up selecting, and having elected, the most ridiculous of self promoting crooks in the current Parliament, and tha

[Vo]:ECAT site claims "thin Ni layer at center of reactor core"

OK, since Rossi confirms this site, http://ecat.com/, is official, can we accept their description as accurate? . [snip] The fuel, Nickel of very fine granularity + Hydrogen + catalyst, is placed in a thin layer at the center of the reactor core.[/snip]. This description is at odds with sugges

[Vo]:Nanomagnetism Theory

This theory, or a version of it, could be behind more than Rossi and LENR, in general ... http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1826 Note sure what the Citi5 group is ... other than opportunists <>

[Vo]:RE: More on Radio-iodine

Lab in Hungary is the likely source of iodine-131 release... http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/11/17/idINIndia-6058692017 <>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

On 11/17/2011 8:51 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: This is the English version: http://www.gammamanager.com/index.html 2011/11/17 Daniel Rocha > His representative in Switzerland is very, to put mildly, suspicious: Indeed - this company is in the business of sell

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

Berke Durak wrote: > Theory 1. > > At some point Rossi decided to attempt a large scam. He somehow > talked Focardi and some others into this. Focardi said something > like: "I'm tired of being a poor Italian university professor. > Let's make money! How about we rob a bank?" Rossi answered,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

metaparadigm 3... the probable history we see reflects our own realization of beneficial creative unity back in ever surprising, miraculous ways... Rich R: I do not understand your answer/comment or what ever! Rich Murray 6:24 AM (9 minutes ago) to *Rich*, michael all reality and all history a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

Hi, Theory 1: ROFL. Theory 2: who knows. Kind regards, MoB

[Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

Theory 1. At some point Rossi decided to attempt a large scam. He somehow talked Focardi and some others into this. Focardi said something like: "I'm tired of being a poor Italian university professor. Let's make money! How about we rob a bank?" Rossi answered, no, no, look, we can easily foo

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

Oops, I made a mistake. We have 320 kWh x 3600 s/h = 1.15 GJ and not 576 MJ. And Joshua Cude wrote: > As I've said before, the temperatures are consistent with 70 kW output, to > give 385 kWh total. So Joshua is right that the figures are consistent if we suppose a hidden energy storage mech

RE: [Vo]:Bowing out of the discussion for a while

>From Stephen: > I've got too much other stuff I'm not getting too, and the Rossi > discussion is looking to be interminable. > > If my will power falters I'll unsubscribe for a while; absent that I'll > be trying to ignore goings-on here, partly in the no doubt vain hope > that something will ha

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

This is the English version: http://www.gammamanager.com/index.html 2011/11/17 Daniel Rocha > His representative in Switzerland is very, to put mildly, suspicious: > >

[Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

His representative in Switzerland is very, to put mildly, suspicious: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transaltec.ch%2Ffacma%2Fdesign.php%3Fdesign%3D2 Due to physical *conditions, such systems* are *only economically

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Oh, they answered: Peter Heckert November 17th, 2011 at 2:44 AM Dear Mr. Rossi, Trans Altec AG in Switzerland is offering E-CAT plants: Main site: http://www.transaltec.ch/facma/design.php?design=2 Direct link to e-cat offer without frame: http://www.transaltec.ch/facma/view.php?view=Produkte It i

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

BTW, I cannot post on Rossi's forum, from anywhere. It's probably something wrong with their website, would someone mind to submit that e-cat seller to AR, please? 2011/11/17 Daniel Rocha > Andrea Rossi > November 17th, 2011 at 6:18 > AM

Re: [Vo]:The extent of opposition to breakthroughs is predicted by Szpak's dictum

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > ** > > OK, OK, you don't like any of Jed's examples. > > But here's one you may find harder to dismiss: For a couple of > generations dinosaurs were said to be very much like big lizards: Cold > blooded, slow moving, and most importan

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

Andrea Rossi November 17th, 2011 at 6:18 AM Dear Francesco F: Yes they are our North Europe commercial Branch, and they have been authorized to make their website. Anyway, you made a very useful comment: there are around man

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, do I need to keep arguing in favor of calibration > with a blank? Is there anyone else who doesn't get why it's desirable? > Even essential? I understand a blank may not be perfect because of the > hydrogen issue and I

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > ** > > > On 11-11-16 05:32 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >> There are actually some technical difficulties with a "blank run" in the >> Rossi E-cat. >> >> Wet cold fusion res

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > If so, the entire scientific community must be incredibly obstinate or >> the proof for cold fusion isn't very good or some combination of both. >> > > It is entirely the first. That is true of all other examples in whi

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > The trouble is that H2(gas)+Ni(powder) reacts exothermically, as the > hydrogen is adsorbed onto the nickel. This is true, and it means that the run would still have to be long enough to account for this. But this should be rather e

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > This is a problem because of powder is expensive and difficult to > fabricate. > Not according to Rossi, who says it is easy to fabricate, and the cost is negligible. > It is also a problem because after you contaminate it, you could not

Re: [Vo]:Detailed exposed of the e-cat scam.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > > This is true that the Rossi's effect is trivial to demonstrate > unconditionally. But this is also the reason, that Rossi has not had > any interests to provide conclusive evidence to the public. Speculation about reverse psychology an

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat's Big Scientific Coincidence?

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > Is there a plausible explanation for why the temperature at which reaction >> initiates in the E-Cat just happens to be so close to the boiling point of >> water? >> > > The water never goes above 100°C because it is

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat's Big Scientific Coincidence?

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Is there a plausible explanation for why the temperature at which reaction > initiates in the E-Cat just happens to be so close to the boiling point of > water? > We don't know the temperature of the core when the reaction is claimed to init

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > If that is what you mean, you are wrong. Input power is much smaller than > output, and there is no chance it might be confused with output. > Output power may be larger than input in some demos, but the evidence does not support the claim t

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

I wonder, why Schneider's Trans Altec is interested in the e-cat technology at all. They are already selling or promoting electromagnetic generators that produce electricity in the MW range with very little or no input energy. (Unfortunately these are expensive) Also he has a concept for fission

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Of course I understand the necessity for blank runs and controls when you > are trying to measure a fraction of a watt, or even ~10 W. But with > kilowatt levels of heat that anyone can confirm by sense of touch, running > a blank is ridiculo

Re: [Vo]:Blank Run Protocol

Easiest and most useful way to do blank test is that there are two eCats running in parallel. First eCat is running with hydrogen pressure and the second one without. All the rest of attributes should be naturally identical. This way we would get good comprehension for the excess heat production wi

Re: [Vo]:New european commercial E-Cat Offer

This is picture of Ing Adolf Schneider and his wife with andrea rossi. http://peswiki.com/images/d/d9/Schneiders-Rossi-Meeting-Foto-280711_300.jpg On 11/17/11, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: > See: > > http://www.transaltec.ch/facma/design.php?design=2 > > This is in German language. > Trans Alte

Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Berke Durak wrote: > Joshua Cude wrote: > > > Actually, even if you trust F. about the energy during the run the > > data is entirely consistent with no excess heat. > > Not according to Ny Teknik's "This is how the test was done" box at > http://www.nyteknik.se/n

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