On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Thank you Susan for triggering a major point about the so-called skeptics,
now obviously fitting the definition of ‘trolls’, that have been spewing
their BS for that last several days…
Trolls? Really?
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.comwrote:
Mark why are you so defensive of Rossi? Do you have skin in this game?
I bet he's like Jed. He so badly wants Rossi and Defkalion to be real, he
gets his feelings hurt when anyone suggests they may in fact be
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.comwrote:
Rossi faked the 6 Oct data and fooled all the Experts that attended the
demo. Some BIG names there.
Hey, do me a favor. I agree that thermocouple (T-out) placement is
critical and you can get almost any temp you
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Motive is at the root of all rational crime. Without motive, crime is
pathological and therefore the inconsequential act of a madman.
In this riddle lies the horns of the Rossi paradox.
So what is Rossi’s motive for
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:14 AM, John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.comwrote:
As for Focardi and Levi, I notice that they never corrected any of the
various lies about the University of Bologna actually performing
independent testing of the E-Cat. If they didn't bother correcting that, I
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
**
Eff: I don't need this kind of garbage from you, or anyone else on this
list. The occasional worthwhile content of your semi-literate
contributions isn't sufficient to justify digging through the offensive and
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:
this behavior is coherent with the thermoelectric story, as told by his
opponents...
optimistic, betting all on a small lab success, lying, making failures
disappear by frauds, trying to make it desperately works
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Even if he doesn't have a secret catalyst that enhances his reaction, he
may inadvertently become the catalyst that brings LENR into the
mainstream...
I disagree with that reasoning. If Rossi is a fraud,
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Hotmail jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
**
Shaun, you are in error. I have examined your pictures and like Mary, I
do not see the significance of the goop you are referring to.
I didn't say I didn't see the significance-- I do. I am not that good at
pattern
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM, John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.comwrote:
Perhaps. I don't see what this theory offers that makes it more likely
than Rossi is a con man.
It offers that there is no evidence Rossi ever showed a working device. No
evidence of proper tests anywhere-- EVER.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:49 AM, John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.comwrote:
I was going to suggest that you were mistaken, since the DOD report states
that a small-scale model was tested for 7 days at the University of New
Hampshire.
However, in re-reading it, I see that it was Rossi who
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Vorticians,
My bad. I came under a fair amount of criticism for reporting a rumor that
lead to both of the twin comedic episodes here last week - of 1) the outing
of Greg Watson, masquerading as AussiGuy, and 2) the BBB
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Of course we welcome your contributions to the technical discussion here.
Perhaps you could take a moment to explain how citing sources which can't
be named, which supposedly make claims in support of Rossi, and which
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
There is plenty of blame to go around.
There certainly is. And most should go to investigators who don't provide
clear and unequivocal, independently replicated and properly controlled and
calibrated studies using the
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Mary, there are serious problems with Rossi's demonstrations that we are
all aware of. It is apparent to me that he has a very difficult problem
trying to maintain stability of the power output and I have been doing
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Try to make sense of his claims based mainly on independent observations
and replications
That would be ever so much easier if you would bother to say who they are
and have them tell what they did and where they
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I see you are using several other time-tested techniques. You have
carefully described a test that would be difficult or impossible to meet.
Joule heating or electrolysis power is necessary for most experiments. In
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
This is not what we are discussing. We are talking about the forum and how
it was overtaken by abusive posters. Steorn's claim is not relevant to this
discussion. Quoting Wikipedia is of no value when it comes to exotic
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
I think you are misreading the situation. The problem here is the
accusatory and pathalogical scepticism displayed by posters such as
yourself which is based on attacking the character of anyone and everyone
who is
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
I would not be surprised if Eff Wivakeef and Shaun Taylor are fake
pseudonyms and that they are posters from the moletrap forum. MaryYugo
regularly tells everyone over on Moletrap how stupid and gullible she
thinks
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Shaun,
Picking data apart is one thing, but when you choose to state, AS A FACT,
that Rossi is knowingly working with Millin, you damn well better have
direct evidence (e.g., a contract with Rossi's sig, or
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
A LENR device that produces power for a few hours or a few days isn't
practical. It might indeed be of interest, and someone, someday, might
figure out how to make something like this reliable, but Rossi might
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
I don't believe Rossi, but I do believe that Eff Vivakeef is acting beyond
the pale for Vortex. Convicted fraudster is libel.
I don't think that's libel. It may not be the whole story but you can find
in
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course we welcome your
contributions to the technical discussion here.
- Jed
Oh so now Vortex is only a PRO Rossi discussion group?
No, it is pro-science.
Your
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com wrote:
No, it is pro-science.
Ok Jed but play by your own rules. Stop making statement about secret
testing that you can't reveal.
That is not against the rules here, or at
On 1/22/12, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
In 5 years of listening to you ENDLESSLY complain about investors being
ripped off and people being scammed you have been unable to point to even
ONE single instance of someone who has made a complaint. You talk of
victims like they are
On 1/22/12, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Mary, have you forgotten that at least one of the principles in Ampenergo
has worked with Rossi before, or was in business with him, and if they gave
Rossi $ to secure a licensing spot, so what?
So Rossi has received money in
On 1/22/12, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
So basically you STILL can't point to a single complaint from a Steorn or
Rossi investor. I rest my case.
I don't claim to be able to point to complaints about Steorn or Rossi.
Steorn's investors long ago wrote off the losses and their contract
Another issue with Rossi's claim of isotope enrichment is how he
accomplishes it. He's never commented on that though he was asked. Where
is his plant for the enrichment? What technology does he use? Can he
afford a farm of gas centrifuges? A high intensity laser setup? Who runs
it?
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
That is absurd – John.
Do you have any depth of understanding on this test, since you seem to be
coming in after all of these details have been hashed and rehashed ad
nauseum ?
I'm not sure what there is to understand
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
You, Mary Yugo and the other trolls should please go form your own
discussion group.
I think one of the rules of the group is that it tolerates dissent and also
that insults are discouraged.
This group is about
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
You don't need to do a great effort to enrich to a few percent an element
with an isotope variation of 10% of mass from the less stable to the most
stable isotope. This is not like uranium enrichment.
I am not
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
As mentioned in prior posting - Ni-64 costs about $3 per gram from a
medical supplier. We checked the ones near Rossi's former lab in NH and no
one remembers him or the name Leonardo (LTI, or EON). The reason for
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Whatever it is called, I wish they would stop.
I am sure you do but your problem isn't with Rossi's critics. It's with
Rossi. He could stop all the critique any time he wanted to and easily
with low risk. You should
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
MY loves that Argon fueled motor.
?? MY referring to me ??
I know nothing about any such motor.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
?? MY referring to me ??
I know nothing about any such motor.
Sure you do. Joseph Papp's motor? The one where Feynman pull the plug?
Oh right
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a common tactic of those with something to sell to play up the
professional associations of others who are involved in some way, which is
clearly what is being done here.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
A good magic show can fool a few journalists and grad students and yes,
Levi
does not inspire confidence – but take a closer look at the “guests”.
I also fail to see the point of Rossi's pulling off a successful magic
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not trust his test data. I trust other people's test data taken from
his machines, and independent replications of them.
How in the world do you know that? Which other people? Where? When?
How? Can we
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
wrote:
someone have cited this dcument from us army corp of engineer
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ada432046
it talsk about the experiments with Rossi'es TE devices.
it is interesting because they don't talk about
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
GOW has apparently learned from experience that selling stock in
worthless companies is much lower risk than selling products you can’t
deliver. “Capitalism” protects the “pump and dumper” pretty well - but not
the guy who
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The Rossi reaction in a nutshell…
SNIP
Getting back to the science of Ni-H thermal gain, instead of soap opera.
No it's not science. It's not science to postulate a mechanism for a
reaction that has never been properly
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.comwrote:
MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science
to the Vortex! LOL!
I never said that. You made it up. My response was to a very specific
post.
1. Italo R.
January 19th, 2012 at 3:36
PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=14#comment-172614
Dear Ing. Rossi,
I have been told that in your official E-Cat website
http://ecat.com/there is the important news that two Universities are
already studying and
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
** **
If anyone is still in doubt that Greg and Aussi Guy are one and the same,
here is a thread from another forum - that turned up today - where other
posters are calling Greg the world’s greatest supplier of
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
The only reference that I could find on ecat.com to dispensation of
university testing was more than two months ago, before Rossi seemed to
have
disavowed it:SNIP
Interesting bit from ecat.com:
“We have
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, thorium breeder thorium.bree...@gmail.com
wrote:
I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check.
Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation?
One of the more far out of Rossi's claims, made clearly and at least twice
in his misnamed blog (JONP),
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.comwrote:
Ok Rossi may not be interested in private investors for Leonardo Corp
Well, we don't know that. He says it but it doesn't mean he didn't take
money secretly already with people who signed NDA's. For sure, a lot of
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Could you indulge me by revealing exactly what indications there are
that AR
has anything whatever to do with the US or any other military
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
All we need is ONE photograph of another E-Cat on a production. Rossi
claims to be making another 13. Why not post a photo of that line? Will
that give away trade secrets? Instead what we get is a video of the 28
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
There is no doubt he is accomplished engineer. He has invented many
important products.
Just out curiosity, which are those? May we have a list? Does that
include waste to fuel conversion? How about heat to
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
It is time for Rossi to stop making wish full statements and to start
delivering independent black box tests. I can arrange to make that happen
as I'm sure many others can do.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote:
I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons
here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick
Smith?
Is there some evidence about AG's being Greg Watson?
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in
the posts of the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg
Watson. I would concede that everything I've found is
Interesting summary tables of LENR/CF research results. Celani highlights
the fact that of all the claims, Rossi and Defkalion are the largest by far
and are the least confirmed. Found the cite on ecatnews.com. It's in
English:
http://www.22passi.it/downloads/WSEC2012%20Present.pdf
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Who knows what to make of it. I am sure that NI is really working on it.
Their VP wrote to Forbes, after all. Or they were working on it . . . Maybe
Rossi threw them out.
It would be better to be more precise. The
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I do not see any of that. I have been dealing with him for years, and I
have seen him act this way countless times. He never fools me.
This seems like a good place to ask what those dealings were and exactly
what it
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Personally I stopped believing anything Rossi said after the wet
steam/dry steam business blew up early last year.
That is unfair to Rossi. He did not select the meter which is
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
What are some questions that we could be asking?
Last time that I asked them uncomfortable questions, they at least
acknowledged that they were uncomfortable. That said, can we come up with a
list of
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
If I had a highly controversial free energy device that I wanted to
market which didn't yet have adequate patent protection I would not in
be too much of a hurry to draw undue attention to the
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Steven,
Didn't sleep much last night. Went for a morning walk along the beach with
my dog and watched the sun come up. Just had a coffee with our chairman who
lives not that far from me. I'm taking 2 weeks leave
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
2. Rossi has been independently replicated by Defkalion, and his devices
have been carefully checked by many experts.
Except that no expert has been allowed to use a better method of
measuring enthalpy such as sparging
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish I could add something substantial to this list, but I can't. I
haven't taken time to watch all of the videos or read the comments on Web
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Terry,
I find it difficult to believe these guys would not be able to get Rossi
on a Skype connection, especially as they had Dick Smith's $200k riding on
the call.
Perhaps Rossi did not want to be found. Dick
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
That worked out well. Good job Andrea! See:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Until the NI control system is developed, Rossi is the only operator
qualified to keep the E-Cat within operational limits through manual
control.
Because of improper temperature control due to operational inexperience
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
1) so they are wearing jackets in the warehouse; in many tilt-up
industrial parks like this, a small (front) section is walled off and made
into offices and *is* heated, whereas the large warehouse section
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
(I know, Mary, don't bother.)
Don't mind if I do. After all, you brought it up!
Now, all indications (to this author) is that AR is being funded by
the military
Could you indulge me by revealing exactly what
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
The article might be of some interest.
Titled: Are we on the Brink of an Energy Revolution? Andrea Rossi to
Build 1MW Power Plant
Dated: Tue, 17 January 2012
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 01:37 PM 1/17/2012, Robert Leguillon wrote:
From Hank Mills - *Pure Energy Systems News*:
Original Source:
http://pesn.com/2012/01/15/9602013_138_Million_Cold_Fusion_Holocaust/
Good grief :
Just imagine that if
I wish 60 Minutes would update their story on CF. It's been enough time
to see where all the promising research of the old program has gotten.
And I'd love to see them approach Rossi and Defkalion.
In my estimation, that would be absolutely hilarious. Ever see the number
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Rossi sometimes plays word games. Jones did not claim that it was
given back. His comment is more like it was returned for repairs.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Mary Yugo
It's not so much proven lies as it is constant inconsistencies,
vagueness, tangential answers to obviously relevant and harmless questions,
spouting off about snakes and clowns, and general
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
And, as to the factory being heated continuously, this is still only
his word for it, or visitors who saw it running when they were there
on occasion.
I have heard from reliable people who observed it operate
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I think the only way it could happen would be if government regulators
opposed to cold fusion refuse to admit the machine is real, and allow it
only because they claim it does not exist.
Nonsense. First, almost
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Also see my questions to Defkalion and the COMPLETELY NONRESPONSIVE
EVASIVE REPLY here:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23t=865p=5389#p5389
LOL. I got this response from Defkalion:
You have been
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I cannot understand why Rossi's personality, his problems,
and alleged problems are an issue here in this forum. Why do you -- Jones
-- have such difficulty separating the person from the claim!?? Why do you
have this
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
**
Defective analogy. The cars for sale are real and functional, aren't
they? Even if the business is dishonest.
Sorry, I miss your point. I was noting that Jed would likely not buy from
someone convicted multiple
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
1. Tests on his device. Despite the handwaving and nonsense published here
by Yugo and others, these tests are irrefutable. There is not slightest
chance of fraud.
I refuse to rehash that with you. If you believe
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
Edison was a greedy liar and cheat who was cruel to animals. Schrodinger
was a bigamist. MLK and possibly Einstein were plagiarists. Werner Von
Braun was a Nazi and may have held rank in the SS. Tesla was a OCD-laden
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Jones,
So you are OK with DFG taking Rossi's invention and in effect stealing it
from him? You do admit it worked.
How can we possibly know that anything from Defkalion ever worked? They've
never shown any
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
**
Testing without cost or risk? Not in any way that I would risk, if I was
him.
What is the risk beyond any risk Rossi already assumed when he did some 8
or 10 public demonstrations already? And he still gives
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Michael Butcher thebend...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary I'm a little confused. Perhaps you can clarify ?
I know that you have stated it many times but is your position still that
Rossi's first customer is a fictional one made up by him to give him
credibility ? If
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
A thermoelectric hybrid vehicle would be better. It would be a lot more
expensive at present, but I expect the cost of themoelectric chips will
fall rapidly.
Let's use Rossi's thermo-electric chips... oh!
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Another guess...If it is a military organization, based in (North)
America and starts with the letter N, maybe its NORAD.
NORAD could use a LENR power plant to power their underground bunkers.
If NORAD needed nuclear
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising
If 1/100 of what Naudin claims were true, he would be rich beyond his
imagination. Naudin creates lovely art work and take beautiful photos of
his
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Last I heard, Rossi was still saying you need a WATER line to the eCat. I
hope that's changed.
If it hasn't, I'm sure it will. All you have to do to hear just about any
claim from Rossi is to wait a bit.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
To be fair to all parties on this forum we need to read Joe Zawodny's
comments on the Nasa video:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Mary, have you ever actually worked in any organization where design of
any kind was done?
Yes. I've done considerable design work on scientific instrumentation
myself. I've also been involved in design of sales brochures
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately his expert opinion will be used to futher delay
investment in LENR research in favour of pouring more money into god
particles and hot fusion.
Perhaps you missed this part: ... I personally find
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
No, I am not an employee of the customer, but it is a rather large group...
Which large group? How do you know? (generically... I am not asking you
to reveal a confidential source of course)
The entrepreneur Dick Smith had offered to invest $200,000 if the physics
was proven. He sent along a consulting aerospace engineer and sceptic, Ian
Bryce, to assess the machine.
This is the second time they wrote that and it's confusing. Did Bryce go
to Italy? Or just to their town meeting or
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
Thanks for the info! Can you share some more information? If so:
- Do you know, if works for a short time means that it actually delivers
more energy than has been put in? How long is short? ;)
- Is the customer waiting
Sorry if this was discussed and I missed it but a new set of Rossi says
is creating cognitive dissonance in several places.
Rossi says on his blog that the price of his so-called megawatt plant has
been reduced from $2 million to $1.5 million. But he projects that
starting within a year, his
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi AG,
Jones gave a lot of hints in his answer to my questions 4:30 hours
earlier. The customers name seems to start with N, is an organization in
Brussel, Rossi also once mentioned the name in the context of the 28th
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:02 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
From Aussie:
Rossi says the domestic E-Cat is in UL certification.
Is in UL certification? Not sure I understand the phrase in as it's
being used here. Does Rossi mean his eCats are
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
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From: Aussie Guy E-Cat
Why you put a negative spin on this is beyond me? It is the best news you
could have reported. IT WORKS!
Works, yes ... for a short time. But is it cost effective?
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
What I learned from the interview.
10 kW home E-Cat is the size of a portable computer.SNIP
Just curious -- you believe all that? Some of that? None of that?
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary spin it anyway you try, you were wrong. Rossi does have a customer,
he did ship the plant, it does work and produce excess heat, there are
control issues, so what, you expect there would not be control
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Energy Liberator energylibera...@gmail.com
wrote:
The price is really tumbling now.
If I didn't have one to sell, I'd offer it to you cheap too. Just
saying... nobody who has ever talked about it has ever bought an E-cat
from Rossi .
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