Re: Mavericks

[Daniel Kerr]

Thanks Kevin, sounds good.
I’ll drop you an email later to make a time. (most likely Saturday) as will be 
out working late tonight and tomorrow.
Thanks. Talk soon.

Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 24 Nov 2016, at 1:28 pm, Kevin Lock  wrote:
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> sounds great!  I will buy an 8GB thumb drive and drop by your place at a time 
> suitable to you.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kev
> 
> 
>> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 12:46 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kevin
>> 
>> If helps, I’ve also got a direct installer that takes you straight to 10.9.5 
>> in one install. So you don’t need the update. It runs off a bootable thumb 
>> drive.
>> It will do the install in one go without then having to do the update, if 
>> that makes things easier.
>> 
>> Can clone it to a thumb drive if you like. Just let me know.
>> 
>> Think I’ve also got some older iMac’s for you as well sitting aside. So 
>> welcome to collect them and I can clone the thumb drive to your thumb drive 
>> if you like.
>> Just let me know. which ever is easier :)
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>> 
>> ---
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>> MacWizardry
>> 
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>> Email: 
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>> 
>>> On 24 Nov 2016, at 12:29 pm, Kevin Lock  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That would be most helpful Ronni.  Can I mail you a flash drive?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Kev
>>> 
>>> 
 On 24 Nov. 2016, at 11:57 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Kevin,
 
 I have the "Install OS X Mavericks.app" version:1.3.33 - 5.31GB 
 And "OSXupdcombo 10.9.5" - 982.3MB, on my support drive
 Which would bring Mavericks to its final version OS X 10.9.5
 
 If you can't locate these files locally I could possibly free up one of my 
 flash drives and post it to you, unless you can wait until I next come to 
 Perth.
 
 Regards,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 9:57 am, Kevin Lock  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a few Macs needing an upgrade to Mavericks from Snow Leopard.  I 
> cannot find an upgrade download for this.  Anyone help me with a disk or 
> a copy for my flash drive?
> 
> These machines are for my giveaway project.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kev
> 94183869
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Re: Mavericks

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Daniel & Kevin,

That's sounds the quickest & best way to go Kevin.
I've also got some 'stuff' for in a Box that might be useful for your charity 
projects.
I'll bring the box up on my next trip to Nikki's place for you & you can then 
arrange pickup from her.  I'll need to give you her new address as they have 
moved since the last time you picked up from her house ;-)

Regards,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 12:46 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin
> 
> If helps, I’ve also got a direct installer that takes you straight to 10.9.5 
> in one install. So you don’t need the update. It runs off a bootable thumb 
> drive.
> It will do the install in one go without then having to do the update, if 
> that makes things easier.
> 
> Can clone it to a thumb drive if you like. Just let me know.
> 
> Think I’ve also got some older iMac’s for you as well sitting aside. So 
> welcome to collect them and I can clone the thumb drive to your thumb drive 
> if you like.
> Just let me know. which ever is easier :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
> ---
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> MacWizardry
> 
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> 
>> On 24 Nov 2016, at 12:29 pm, Kevin Lock  wrote:
>> 
>> That would be most helpful Ronni.  Can I mail you a flash drive?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 11:57 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> I have the "Install OS X Mavericks.app" version:1.3.33 - 5.31GB 
>>> And "OSXupdcombo 10.9.5" - 982.3MB, on my support drive
>>> Which would bring Mavericks to its final version OS X 10.9.5
>>> 
>>> If you can't locate these files locally I could possibly free up one of my 
>>> flash drives and post it to you, unless you can wait until I next come to 
>>> Perth.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 24 Nov. 2016, at 9:57 am, Kevin Lock  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a few Macs needing an upgrade to Mavericks from Snow Leopard.  I 
 cannot find an upgrade download for this.  Anyone help me with a disk or a 
 copy for my flash drive?
 
 These machines are for my giveaway project.
 
 Regards,
 
 Kev
 94183869
 
>>> >
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Re: Mavericks

[Kevin Lock]

Daniel,

sounds great!  I will buy an 8GB thumb drive and drop by your place at a time 
suitable to you.

Thanks,

Kev


> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 12:46 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin
> 
> If helps, I’ve also got a direct installer that takes you straight to 10.9.5 
> in one install. So you don’t need the update. It runs off a bootable thumb 
> drive.
> It will do the install in one go without then having to do the update, if 
> that makes things easier.
> 
> Can clone it to a thumb drive if you like. Just let me know.
> 
> Think I’ve also got some older iMac’s for you as well sitting aside. So 
> welcome to collect them and I can clone the thumb drive to your thumb drive 
> if you like.
> Just let me know. which ever is easier :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
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> 
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> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 24 Nov 2016, at 12:29 pm, Kevin Lock  wrote:
>> 
>> That would be most helpful Ronni.  Can I mail you a flash drive?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 11:57 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> I have the "Install OS X Mavericks.app" version:1.3.33 - 5.31GB 
>>> And "OSXupdcombo 10.9.5" - 982.3MB, on my support drive
>>> Which would bring Mavericks to its final version OS X 10.9.5
>>> 
>>> If you can't locate these files locally I could possibly free up one of my 
>>> flash drives and post it to you, unless you can wait until I next come to 
>>> Perth.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 24 Nov. 2016, at 9:57 am, Kevin Lock  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a few Macs needing an upgrade to Mavericks from Snow Leopard.  I 
 cannot find an upgrade download for this.  Anyone help me with a disk or a 
 copy for my flash drive?
 
 These machines are for my giveaway project.
 
 Regards,
 
 Kev
 94183869
 
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Re: Mavericks

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Kevin

If helps, I’ve also got a direct installer that takes you straight to 10.9.5 in 
one install. So you don’t need the update. It runs off a bootable thumb drive.
It will do the install in one go without then having to do the update, if that 
makes things easier.

Can clone it to a thumb drive if you like. Just let me know.

Think I’ve also got some older iMac’s for you as well sitting aside. So welcome 
to collect them and I can clone the thumb drive to your thumb drive if you like.
Just let me know. which ever is easier :)

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 7

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> On 24 Nov 2016, at 12:29 pm, Kevin Lock  wrote:
> 
> That would be most helpful Ronni.  Can I mail you a flash drive?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kev
> 
> 
>> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 11:57 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>> 
>> I have the "Install OS X Mavericks.app" version:1.3.33 - 5.31GB 
>> And "OSXupdcombo 10.9.5" - 982.3MB, on my support drive
>> Which would bring Mavericks to its final version OS X 10.9.5
>> 
>> If you can't locate these files locally I could possibly free up one of my 
>> flash drives and post it to you, unless you can wait until I next come to 
>> Perth.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 9:57 am, Kevin Lock  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have a few Macs needing an upgrade to Mavericks from Snow Leopard.  I 
>>> cannot find an upgrade download for this.  Anyone help me with a disk or a 
>>> copy for my flash drive?
>>> 
>>> These machines are for my giveaway project.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Kev
>>> 94183869
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Re: Mavericks

[Kevin Lock]

That would be most helpful Ronni.  Can I mail you a flash drive?

Regards,

Kev


> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 11:57 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> I have the "Install OS X Mavericks.app" version:1.3.33 - 5.31GB 
> And "OSXupdcombo 10.9.5" - 982.3MB, on my support drive
> Which would bring Mavericks to its final version OS X 10.9.5
> 
> If you can't locate these files locally I could possibly free up one of my 
> flash drives and post it to you, unless you can wait until I next come to 
> Perth.
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 24 Nov. 2016, at 9:57 am, Kevin Lock  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a few Macs needing an upgrade to Mavericks from Snow Leopard.  I 
>> cannot find an upgrade download for this.  Anyone help me with a disk or a 
>> copy for my flash drive?
>> 
>> These machines are for my giveaway project.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Kev
>> 94183869
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Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

[renew3]

Hi Ronni,

Issue finally resolved.  New Hard drive!

Bill 

- Original Message -
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To:WAMUG 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 19 May 2014 09:10:02 +0800
Subject:Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

 Hi Bill,  
 On 18 May 2014, at 11:03 am, Bill Parker  wrote: 
However, Mail is still playing up and flickers like mad when
scrolling! 
Are you using a Apple Magic Mouse or a Trackpad? Does it only happen
in Mail App? Do you have installed any third-party software that might
affect the mouse, trackpad, or scrolling? 
 Check in System Preferences to see if anything has changed with your
Mouse settings or Trackpad settings. 
 If using a Magic Mouse, OS X Mavericks: Use an Apple Magic Mouse -  
 You could try deleting the mouse.plists  
You need to look in your User Library/Preferences for the .plist.
Either hold down the option key while using the Finder “Go To
Folder” command and select your user Library in your home
folder or use the Finder “Go To Folder” command and enter
~/Library/Preferences.  Move the .plists to your desktop.
 
Test. If it works okay, delete the plist(s) from the desktop.
 
If the same, return the .plist(s) to where you got them from,
overwriting the newer ones. 
 Cheers, Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



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Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Bill,

That is good to hear. A failing hard drive can show unusual behaviour before it 
dies.
Does the new Hard Drive have more room?  

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 26 May 2014, at 5:46 pm, ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Issue finally resolved.  New Hard drive!
 
 Bill 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.orgau
 
 To:
 WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Mon, 19 May 2014 09:10:02 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: Mavericks issues resolved.
 
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 On 18 May 2014, at 11:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 However, Mail is still playing up and flickers like mad when scrolling!
 
 Are you using a Apple Magic Mouse or a Trackpad? Does it only happen in Mail 
 App?
 Do you have installed any third-party software that might affect the mouse, 
 trackpad, or scrolling?
 
 Check in System Preferences to see if anything has changed with your Mouse 
 settings or Trackpad settings.
 
 If using a Magic Mouse, OS X Mavericks: Use an Apple Magic Mouse - 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14260
 
 You could try deleting the mouse.plists
 
 You need to look in your User Library/Preferences for the .plist.
 Either hold down the option key while using the Finder “Go To Folder” command 
 and select your user Library in your home folder or use the Finder “Go To 
 Folder” command and enter ~/Library/Preferences.  Move the .plists to your 
 desktop.
  
 Test. If it works okay, delete the plist(s) from the desktop.
  
 If the same, return the .plist(s) to where you got them from, overwriting the 
 newer ones.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
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Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

[Bill Parker]

I'll put in a 750gb and some mor RAM.
Bill

Sent by iPhone

 On 26 May 2014, at 18:44, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 That is good to hear. A failing hard drive can show unusual behaviour before 
 it dies.
 Does the new Hard Drive have more room?  
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 May 2014, at 5:46 pm, ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Issue finally resolved.  New Hard drive!
 
 Bill 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.orgau
 
 To:
 WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Mon, 19 May 2014 09:10:02 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: Mavericks issues resolved.
 
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 On 18 May 2014, at 11:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 However, Mail is still playing up and flickers like mad when scrolling!
 
 Are you using a Apple Magic Mouse or a Trackpad? Does it only happen in Mail 
 App?
 Do you have installed any third-party software that might affect the mouse, 
 trackpad, or scrolling?
 
 Check in System Preferences to see if anything has changed with your Mouse 
 settings or Trackpad settings.
 
 If using a Magic Mouse, OS X Mavericks: Use an Apple Magic Mouse - 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14260
 
 You could try deleting the mouse.plists
 
 You need to look in your User Library/Preferences for the .plist.
 Either hold down the option key while using the Finder “Go To Folder” 
 command and select your user Library in your home folder or use the Finder 
 “Go To Folder” command and enter ~/Library/Preferences.  Move the .plists to 
 your desktop.
  
 Test. If it works okay, delete the plist(s) from the desktop.
  
 If the same, return the .plist(s) to where you got them from, overwriting 
 the newer ones.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
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Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Bill, I have to say that the flickering when scrolling does sound like a 
mouse issue, speaking from personal experience. Have you tried a different USB 
mouse? Cheers, Susan

Sent from my iPad

 On 19 May 2014, at 10:16 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 Mavericks is up to version 10.9.3 now. 
 Have you checked that Logitech have updated drivers for Mavericks for your 
 model mouse?
 Normally third-party software/add-ons etc need to be updated or they can 
 cause issues. 
 
 I would suggest you download  install OS X Mavericks 10.9.3 Update (Combo)
 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1746
 Do the normal preparation first: Repair Permissions - BackUp - Install the 
 Combo - Repair Permissions after installation completes.
 
 You could also Go to System Preferences -  Accessibility and for the mouse 
 options or Trackpad options and set scrolling with inertia.  
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 On 19 May 2014, at 9:56 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 
 A bit old fashioned here.  I only use a hard wired USB connected mouse ( 
 Logitech in fact).  
 
 Tried the suggestions below with no change.
 
 Wondering if upgrade to 10.9.2 would help here?
 
 Bill
 On 19 May 2014, at 9:10, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 On 18 May 2014, at 11:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 However, Mail is still playing up and flickers like mad when scrolling!
 
 Are you using a Apple Magic Mouse or a Trackpad? Does it only happen in 
 Mail App?
 Do you have installed any third-party software that might affect the mouse, 
 trackpad, or scrolling?
 
 Check in System Preferences to see if anything has changed with your Mouse 
 settings or Trackpad settings.
 
 If using a Magic Mouse, OS X Mavericks: Use an Apple Magic Mouse - 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14260
 
 You could try deleting the mouse.plists
 
 You need to look in your User Library/Preferences for the .plist.
 Either hold down the option key while using the Finder “Go To Folder” 
 command and select your user Library in your home folder or use the Finder 
 “Go To Folder” command and enter ~/Library/Preferences.  Move the .plists 
 to your desktop.
  
 Test. If it works okay, delete the plist(s) from the desktop.
  
 If the same, return the .plist(s) to where you got them from, overwriting 
 the newer ones.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
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Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Bill,

On 18 May 2014, at 11:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 However, Mail is still playing up and flickers like mad when scrolling!

Are you using a Apple Magic Mouse or a Trackpad? Does it only happen in Mail 
App?
Do you have installed any third-party software that might affect the mouse, 
trackpad, or scrolling?

Check in System Preferences to see if anything has changed with your Mouse 
settings or Trackpad settings.

If using a Magic Mouse, OS X Mavericks: Use an Apple Magic Mouse - 
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14260

You could try deleting the mouse.plists

You need to look in your User Library/Preferences for the .plist.
Either hold down the option key while using the Finder “Go To Folder” command 
and select your user Library in your home folder or use the Finder “Go To 
Folder” command and enter ~/Library/Preferences.  Move the .plists to your 
desktop.
 
Test. If it works okay, delete the plist(s) from the desktop.
 
If the same, return the .plist(s) to where you got them from, overwriting the 
newer ones.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


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Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

[Bill Parker]

Ronni,

A bit old fashioned here.  I only use a hard wired USB connected mouse ( 
Logitech in fact).  

Tried the suggestions below with no change.

Wondering if upgrade to 10.9.2 would help here?

Bill
On 19 May 2014, at 9:10, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Bill,
 
 On 18 May 2014, at 11:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 However, Mail is still playing up and flickers like mad when scrolling!
 
 Are you using a Apple Magic Mouse or a Trackpad? Does it only happen in Mail 
 App?
 Do you have installed any third-party software that might affect the mouse, 
 trackpad, or scrolling?
 
 Check in System Preferences to see if anything has changed with your Mouse 
 settings or Trackpad settings.
 
 If using a Magic Mouse, OS X Mavericks: Use an Apple Magic Mouse - 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14260
 
 You could try deleting the mouse.plists
 
 You need to look in your User Library/Preferences for the .plist.
 Either hold down the option key while using the Finder “Go To Folder” command 
 and select your user Library in your home folder or use the Finder “Go To 
 Folder” command and enter ~/Library/Preferences.  Move the .plists to your 
 desktop.
  
 Test. If it works okay, delete the plist(s) from the desktop.
  
 If the same, return the .plist(s) to where you got them from, overwriting the 
 newer ones.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Mavericks issues resolved.

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Bill,

Mavericks is up to version 10.9.3 now. 
Have you checked that Logitech have updated drivers for Mavericks for your 
model mouse?
Normally third-party software/add-ons etc need to be updated or they can cause 
issues. 

I would suggest you download  install OS X Mavericks 10.9.3 Update (Combo)
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1746
Do the normal preparation first: Repair Permissions - BackUp - Install the 
Combo - Repair Permissions after installation completes.

You could also Go to System Preferences -  Accessibility and for the mouse 
options or Trackpad options and set scrolling with inertia.  

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

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Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 19 May 2014, at 9:56 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Ronni,
 
 A bit old fashioned here.  I only use a hard wired USB connected mouse ( 
 Logitech in fact).  
 
 Tried the suggestions below with no change.
 
 Wondering if upgrade to 10.9.2 would help here?
 
 Bill
 On 19 May 2014, at 9:10, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 On 18 May 2014, at 11:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 However, Mail is still playing up and flickers like mad when scrolling!
 
 Are you using a Apple Magic Mouse or a Trackpad? Does it only happen in Mail 
 App?
 Do you have installed any third-party software that might affect the mouse, 
 trackpad, or scrolling?
 
 Check in System Preferences to see if anything has changed with your Mouse 
 settings or Trackpad settings.
 
 If using a Magic Mouse, OS X Mavericks: Use an Apple Magic Mouse - 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14260
 
 You could try deleting the mouse.plists
 
 You need to look in your User Library/Preferences for the .plist.
 Either hold down the option key while using the Finder “Go To Folder” 
 command and select your user Library in your home folder or use the Finder 
 “Go To Folder” command and enter ~/Library/Preferences.  Move the .plists to 
 your desktop.
  
 Test. If it works okay, delete the plist(s) from the desktop.
  
 If the same, return the .plist(s) to where you got them from, overwriting 
 the newer ones.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Mavericks is it worth upgrading?

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 11 Apr 2014, at 7:20 am, Peter Faulks peterfau...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I see lots of questions about Mavericks, I now keep getting update requests 
 to go to Mavericks.
 
 
 My wife and I are  both retired and we each have an iMac 9 with 2.66GHZ Intel 
 Core processors  running Snow Leopard 10.6.8. With 2Gb Hard Drive. (Plus we 
 have a Mac Book Pro Lap Top, iPad and iPhones)
 
 We use Microsoft Office 2004, Adobe CS3 and Eudora but I don't want to have 
 to go out and purchase new software! Plus we have some recreational games 
 that keep us amused so if we upgrade to Mavericks, how much will this change 
 what we currently use and is it worth upgrading?
 
 PS we haven't upgraded to Lion because we heard that most of our software 
 will not run on Lion? and being oldies we are wary of change...
 
 Any suggestions

The bad news is that none of the software you use will work with Mavericks, 
since they all require Rosetta to be active, which was discontinued by Apple in 
Lion (Mac OS 10.7).

The good news is that there are excellent free or low-cost substitutes for all 
of them. It’s difficult to comment fourth in details since I don’t know to what 
extent you use products such as Office and Abobe’s Creative Suite, but I can 
tell you from personal experience as someone who has recent versions of both 
products running under Mavericks, that I rarely use either of them. 

Pages, Numbers and Keynote can take care of most of your needs when it comes to 
Office, and if not there is always Open Office or any of its variants such as 
NeoOffice. Many of the basic photo manipulation tasks of Photoshop are easily 
handled by iPhoto or even Preview. For anything more sophisticated there are 
apps such as Pixelmator, Acorn and others which are faster and easier to use, 
and use all of Apple’s modern technologies as well, unlike the Adobe products. 
There are also good substitutes for Illustrator, and the Mavericks version of 
Apple’s own Preview makes Acrobat Professional all but obsolete.

If you’re not happy to use Apple’s Mail, there’s always Thunderbird, which is 
the basis for the current version of Eudora anyway.

Unfortunately, you’re not going to be able to escape this situation. You’ll 
certainly be faced with it if you ever want to buy a new Apple computer.

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Re: Mavericks is it worth upgrading?

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,

If your software won't run in Lion, the software won't run in Mavericks!

Starting with Lion, Apple removed Rosetta, the software that enabled older, 
PowerPC applications to run on Intel-based Macs. As a result, upgrading to 
Mavericks entails living without software that requires Rosetta.

To find out what PowerPC software is on your disk, follow these steps:

Use System Profiler to check all your Applications. 

Go to “About This Mac” under the Apple Menu, and click the “More Info” button.
This will launch System Profiler.

Scroll down the list of contents at the left of the window until you get to the 
“Software” section and click on “Applications”.

Give the list a few moments to populate, then look for your application in the 
list.
Widen the window if necessary until you see the “Kind” column.
You can sort this column by clicking on the column header to make searching 
easier.

Any items labelled “Classic” or “PowerPC” will not work in Lion. 

ONLY Universal  Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7 or Mountain Lion OS X 10.8 or 
Mavericks OS X 10.9

RoaringApps  keeps maintains a wiki listing hundreds of Mac and iOS apps and 
the current status of their compatibility with various operating system 
versions, as reported by users. 

Although this list is neither exhaustive nor definitive, it provides a quick 
way to check on the applications most important to you.

(http://roaringapps.com/apps?index=ain case the inline link above doesn't 
work for you.)

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.2 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 11 Apr 2014, at 7:20 am, Peter Faulks peterfau...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I see lots of questions about Mavericks, I now keep getting update requests 
 to go to Mavericks.
 
 
 My wife and I are  both retired and we each have an iMac 9 with 2.66GHZ Intel 
 Core processors  running Snow Leopard 10.6.8. With 2Gb Hard Drive. (Plus we 
 have a Mac Book Pro Lap Top, iPad and iPhones)
 
 We use Microsoft Office 2004, Adobe CS3 and Eudora but I don't want to have 
 to go out and purchase new software! Plus we have some recreational games 
 that keep us amused so if we upgrade to Mavericks, how much will this change 
 what we currently use and is it worth upgrading?
 
 PS we haven't upgraded to Lion because we heard that most of our software 
 will not run on Lion? and being oldies we are wary of change...
 
 Any suggestions
 
 Many thanks
 
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Re: Mavericks

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Ken,
I can only speak personal - I have had no issues with Mavericks !
Some things are different but that’s normal with a new OS.

On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:09 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 is Mavericks safe to use now?
 Have resisted the upgrade because of all the problems up till now,
 
 Thanks  regards,
 
  
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Re: Mavericks

[Susan Hastings]

No issues with Mavericks on any of my macs from oldest to youngest!

Sent from my iPad

 On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:36 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 I can only speak personal - I have had no issues with Mavericks !
 Some things are different but that’s normal with a new OS.
 
 On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:09 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 is Mavericks safe to use now?
 Have resisted the upgrade because of all the problems up till now,
 
 Thanks  regards,
 
  
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Re: Mavericks

[Peter Crisp]

Yes I agree Stephen. I have 4 MacBooks in the house with Mavericks and we've 
had no issues. 

One thing I would suggest to Ken, do a google search for use of Mavericks with 
your brand and model of printer. See if there are people having issues with 
that model. My Epson no problem.

You may have peculiar 3rd party software too which may or may not be 
problematic, again just a quick google search will expose any gross issues.

My experience with mavericks has been positive. I hope it is for Ken if you 
launch the updater!

Regards

Pete

 On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:36 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 I can only speak personal - I have had no issues with Mavericks !
 Some things are different but that’s normal with a new OS.
 
 On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:09 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 is Mavericks safe to use now?
 Have resisted the upgrade because of all the problems up till now,
 
 Thanks  regards,
 
  
 Ken Jackson
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: Mavericks

[Severin Crisp]

My experience likewise, not one glitch from Mavericks, which I installed about 
a week after first release.  I note though that I am meticulous with 
housekeeping and I run Clean My Mac and Disk Warrior on a regular basis as well 
as promptly trashing unwanted files.  And of course I did all of that as well 
as repaired permissions with Disk Utility immediately prior to installing 
Mavericks.  
Severin Crisp
 
On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:59 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Yes I agree Stephen. I have 4 MacBooks in the house with Mavericks and we've 
 had no issues. 
 
 One thing I would suggest to Ken, do a google search for use of Mavericks 
 with your brand and model of printer. See if there are people having issues 
 with that model. My Epson no problem.
 
 You may have peculiar 3rd party software too which may or may not be 
 problematic, again just a quick google search will expose any gross issues.
 
 My experience with mavericks has been positive. I hope it is for Ken if you 
 launch the updater!
 
 Regards
 
 Pete
 
 On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:36 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 I can only speak personal - I have had no issues with Mavericks !
 Some things are different but that’s normal with a new OS.
 
 On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:09 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 is Mavericks safe to use now?
 Have resisted the upgrade because of all the problems up till now,
 
 Thanks  regards,
 
  
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Re: Mavericks 10.9.2 and Mail

[Alan Smith]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for response, and for improving my understanding of the black mysteries.

 It has nothing to do with iCloud as Apple's Mail servers do not use a TLS 
 Certificate for authentication.

Good to know that it is not associated with iCloud.   I don’t understand iCloud 
and I am hoping it will all go away.

 [TLS Certificate] is actually a generic setting in Mail that can be applied 
 to any Mail server you have configured. It is used for client authentication 
 as an additional layer of security if your mail server happens to require it 
 (most do not -- it tends to be used only in corporate environments).  Think 
 of it as an additional password, basically.

This seems logical (now).

 You are seeing '“TLS Certificate = none” 
 Click the drop-down for TLS Certificate... and see if there is anything there 
 to select.
 
 I would not change anything if your Mail Accounts are behaving correctly!

Yes, each Mail account has a long Apple TLS Certificate number.   I never had 
problems with either gmail or iiNet mail associated with the upgrade to 
Mavericks (luck perhaps).  Gmail is IMAP and iiNet mail is POP.   I won’t 
change anything!I will read up on encryption at some later date.

A side comment: I can download all the POP mail to both iPad and iMac without 
mutual interference (or loss of messages), and also keep the last 25 mail 
messages on the iiNet website for convenient email reading when away from home. 
 This seems to be at odds with the recent advice on how POP works, and the call 
to convert mail accounts from POP to IMAP!

Cheers
Alan

On 27 Feb 2014, at 2:03 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 On 26 Feb 2014, at 10:48 am, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Since applying the OSX update, Mail preferences has changed from “SSL” 
 checkbox option to “TLS Certificate = none”. My previous settings were 
 gmail = SSL ticked and iiNet = not ticked.  (These were default settings 
 applied when setting up the accounts.)
 
 Should the TLS certificate be selected/activated for each mail acount?
 
 Regards
 Alan
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 My Mail Preferences have NOT changed since installing OS X 10.9.2 update.
 Are you having any problems with one or both mail accounts since installing 
 the update?
 
 TLS Certificate  - Transport Layer Security (TLS)
 
 Use a TLS certificate for security. Some POP and IMAP mail servers require 
 computers that connect to them to provide a certificate proving their 
 identity.
 
 It has nothing to do with iCloud as Apple's Mail servers do not use a TLS 
 Certificate for authentication.
 
 This is actually a generic setting in Mail that can be applied to any Mail 
 server you have configured. It is used for client authentication as an 
 additional layer of security if your mail server happens to require it (most 
 do not -- it tends to be used only in corporate environments).  Think of it 
 as an additional password, basically.
 
 This setting has no bearing on whether your actual IMAP or SMTP sessions with 
 the server are encrypted or not; that is controlled by the Use SSL settings 
 found on the Advanced page (for IMAP connections) and on the individual 
 SMTP server configurations for outgoing Mail (you can access these by 
 clicking on the drop-down list of Outgoing Mail Servers and choosing Edit 
 SMTP Server List.   
 As long as Use SSL is enabled, your IMAP and SMTP sessions are encrypted.
 
 Note that the TLS Certificate option only appears if you have a valid 
 certificate in your OS X Keychain that could be used for this purpose; the 
 option is hidden otherwise which likely explains why it is not appearing on 
 my MacBook Pro OS X 10.9.2
 
 So to answer your question Should the TLS certificate be selected/activated 
 for each mail account?
 I don't know
 You are seeing '“TLS Certificate = none” 
 Click the drop-down for TLS Certificate... and see if there is anything there 
 to select.
 
 I would not change anything if your Mail Accounts are behaving correctly!
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
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Re: Mavericks 10.9.2 and Mail

[Ronda Brown]

 On 27 Feb 2014, at 4:14 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 A side comment: I can download all the POP mail to both iPad and iMac without 
 mutual interference (or loss of messages), and also keep the last 25 mail 
 messages on the iiNet website for convenient email reading when away from 
 home.  This seems to be at odds with the recent advice on how POP works, and 
 the call to convert mail accounts from POP to IMAP!

You probably are using the 'default' setting on your POP account to Remove 
copy from server after retrieving a message option under the Advanced account 
settings in Mail Preferences, which is  'after one week'.

Cheers,
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Re: Mavericks 10.9.2 and Mail

[Ronni Brown]

On 26 Feb 2014, at 10:48 am, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Since applying the OSX update, Mail preferences has changed from “SSL” 
 checkbox option to “TLS Certificate = none”. My previous settings were 
 gmail = SSL ticked and iiNet = not ticked.  (These were default settings 
 applied when setting up the accounts.)
 
 Should the TLS certificate be selected/activated for each mail acount?
 
 Regards
 Alan

Hi Alan,

My Mail Preferences have NOT changed since installing OS X 10.9.2 update.
Are you having any problems with one or both mail accounts since installing the 
update?

TLS Certificate  - Transport Layer Security (TLS)

Use a TLS certificate for security. Some POP and IMAP mail servers require 
computers that connect to them to provide a certificate proving their identity.

It has nothing to do with iCloud as Apple's Mail servers do not use a TLS 
Certificate for authentication.

This is actually a generic setting in Mail that can be applied to any Mail 
server you have configured. It is used for client authentication as an 
additional layer of security if your mail server happens to require it (most do 
not -- it tends to be used only in corporate environments).  Think of it as an 
additional password, basically.

This setting has no bearing on whether your actual IMAP or SMTP sessions with 
the server are encrypted or not; that is controlled by the Use SSL settings 
found on the Advanced page (for IMAP connections) and on the individual SMTP 
server configurations for outgoing Mail (you can access these by clicking on 
the drop-down list of Outgoing Mail Servers and choosing Edit SMTP Server 
List.   
As long as Use SSL is enabled, your IMAP and SMTP sessions are encrypted.

Note that the TLS Certificate option only appears if you have a valid 
certificate in your OS X Keychain that could be used for this purpose; the 
option is hidden otherwise which likely explains why it is not appearing on my 
MacBook Pro OS X 10.9.2

So to answer your question Should the TLS certificate be selected/activated 
for each mail account?
I don't know
You are seeing '“TLS Certificate = none” 
Click the drop-down for TLS Certificate... and see if there is anything there 
to select.

I would not change anything if your Mail Accounts are behaving correctly!


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

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Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

[gdorn]

On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Gary,
 
 You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
 The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
 
 I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
 unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
 
 Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
 If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
 first... have backups which include a bootable backup ( test you can boot 
 from your backup) of your current system.
 
I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.

Advice understood and accepted

The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.

ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and iCloud 
then?

chow

 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
 RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer says 
 its unsupported.
 
 A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it vi 
 a number of ways.
 

 http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
 

 http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
 
http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
 
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
 
 
 Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on this 
 list) done it ?
 
 are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
 
 can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
 
 
 thanks for any advice or recommendations
 
 chow
 
 
 gary dorn
 gd...@mac.com
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Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Gary

Yes, sometimes pays to read the forums for those sort of things before doing 
it,..as that gives you an idea of the damages it can cause.

That MacPro will take Lion (10.7.5) OK, which would then give you iCloud 
syncing and a few other features as well, so that can be an option.
Otherwise to get syncing with 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) you can do it in a round 
about way to get it working
http://sayzlim.net/sync-icloud-contacts-calendar-snow-leopard/

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5 

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On 21/02/2014, at 4:59 PM, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:

 
 On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
 The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
 
 I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
 unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
 
 Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
 If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
 first... have backups which include a bootable backup ( test you can boot 
 from your backup) of your current system.
 
 I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.
 
 Advice understood and accepted
 
 The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.
 
 ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and 
 iCloud then?
 
 chow
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
 RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer says 
 its unsupported.
 
 A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it 
 vi a number of ways.
 

 http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
 

 http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
 
http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
 
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
 
 
 Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on 
 this list) done it ?
 
 are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
 
 can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
 
 
 thanks for any advice or recommendations
 
 chow
 
 
 gary dorn
 gd...@mac.com
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Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

[Dark1]

Hi Gary.

I agree with what Daniel and Ronni have already said about being very cautious 
when it comes to these things but personally, if it were me, I’d be happy to 
try it out on the strict provisor that I had the time to commit to making it 
work and I would definitely do it on a completely separate HDD in addition to 
having bootable backups.

I haven’t spent a great deal of time looking into this specific kind of hack 
but I do have a reasonable understanding about the hackintosh world (booting 
Mac OS on windows hardware).  From what gather this hack is based around using 
a custom boot loader (which resides on a hidden partition of your HDD that your 
install is contained on) because you need to have a 64bit one for mavericks and 
the native one is only 32 bit.  The other part of it probably involves changing 
some info so that the computer thinks it’s a MacPro 2.1 and therefore supported 
by mavericks.

I wouldn’t expect there to be any potential for cross over trouble if you kept 
everything isolated on separate drives and had an extensive backup system but I 
would definitely want to fully research what I was doing before doing it.  
Daniel has already suggested that you might be able to get the features you 
want from ML which would be supported on your machine natively and, as Ronni 
advised, you should really consider if it’s going to be worth all the effort 
and the potential risk (even if very small) if you are using this machine for 
work.

Hope this helps
Ruben

 Hi Gary
 
 Yes, sometimes pays to read the forums for those sort of things before doing 
 it,..as that gives you an idea of the damages it can cause.
 
 That MacPro will take Lion (10.7.5) OK, which would then give you iCloud 
 syncing and a few other features as well, so that can be an option.
 Otherwise to get syncing with 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) you can do it in a round 
 about way to get it working
 http://sayzlim.net/sync-icloud-contacts-calendar-snow-leopard/
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5 
 
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
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 Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
 accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
 email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
 author be requested. 
 
 On 21/02/2014, at 4:59 PM, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
 The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
 
 I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
 unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
 
 Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
 If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
 first... have backups which include a bootable backup ( test you can boot 
 from your backup) of your current system.
 
 I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.
 
 Advice understood and accepted
 
 The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.
 
 ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and 
 iCloud then?
 
 chow
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
 RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer 
 says its unsupported.
 
 A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it 
 vi a number of ways.
 

 http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
 

 http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
 
http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
 
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
 
 
 Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on 
 this list) done it ?
 
 are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
 
 can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
 
 
 thanks for any advice or recommendations
 
 chow
 
 
 gary dorn
 gd...@mac.com
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Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

[Dark1]

Sorry I forgot to add one more thing that you might consider to be important.

I’m not sure whether doing something like this would be against Apple’s EULA.  
I know that running a hackintosh certainly is against their EULA and that this 
specific hack has similarities to running a hackintosh so if this was important 
to you I guess you’d have to read the EULA which would probably take a very 
long time.

Regards
Ruben

 Hi Gary.
 
 I agree with what Daniel and Ronni have already said about being very 
 cautious when it comes to these things but personally, if it were me, I’d be 
 happy to try it out on the strict provisor that I had the time to commit to 
 making it work and I would definitely do it on a completely separate HDD in 
 addition to having bootable backups.
 
 I haven’t spent a great deal of time looking into this specific kind of hack 
 but I do have a reasonable understanding about the hackintosh world (booting 
 Mac OS on windows hardware).  From what gather this hack is based around 
 using a custom boot loader (which resides on a hidden partition of your HDD 
 that your install is contained on) because you need to have a 64bit one for 
 mavericks and the native one is only 32 bit.  The other part of it probably 
 involves changing some info so that the computer thinks it’s a MacPro 2.1 and 
 therefore supported by mavericks.
 
 I wouldn’t expect there to be any potential for cross over trouble if you 
 kept everything isolated on separate drives and had an extensive backup 
 system but I would definitely want to fully research what I was doing before 
 doing it.  Daniel has already suggested that you might be able to get the 
 features you want from ML which would be supported on your machine natively 
 and, as Ronni advised, you should really consider if it’s going to be worth 
 all the effort and the potential risk (even if very small) if you are using 
 this machine for work.
 
 Hope this helps
 Ruben
 
 Hi Gary
 
 Yes, sometimes pays to read the forums for those sort of things before doing 
 it,..as that gives you an idea of the damages it can cause.
 
 That MacPro will take Lion (10.7.5) OK, which would then give you iCloud 
 syncing and a few other features as well, so that can be an option.
 Otherwise to get syncing with 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) you can do it in a round 
 about way to get it working
 http://sayzlim.net/sync-icloud-contacts-calendar-snow-leopard/
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5 
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
 as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of 
 MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of 
 warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any 
 information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that 
 permission by the author be requested. 
 
 On 21/02/2014, at 4:59 PM, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
 The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
 
 I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
 unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
 
 Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
 If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
 first... have backups which include a bootable backup ( test you can boot 
 from your backup) of your current system.
 
 I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.
 
 Advice understood and accepted
 
 The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.
 
 ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and 
 iCloud then?
 
 chow
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 
 GB RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer 
 says its unsupported.
 
 A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it 
 vi a number of ways.
 

 http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
 

 http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
 
http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
 
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
 
 
 Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on 
 this list) done it ?
 
 are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
 
 can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
 
 
 thanks for any advice or recommendations
 
 chow
 
 
 gary dorn
 gd...@mac.com
 -- The WA 

Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Gary,

You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5

I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 

Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
first... have backups which include a bootable backup ( test you can boot from 
your backup) of your current system.

Cheers,
Ronni






 On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn gd...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
 RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer says 
 its unsupported.
 
 A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it vi 
 a number of ways.
 

 http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
 

 http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
 
http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
 
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
 
 
 Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on this 
 list) done it ?
 
 are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
 
 can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
 
 
 thanks for any advice or recommendations
 
 chow
 
 
 gary dorn
 gd...@mac.com
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Re: Mavericks

[Paul Willemse]

Hi Ronni

Just to thank you again and let you know I finished the Mavericks install
as per your instructions this morning without any trouble.

Little bit surprised to have a menubar on each of my screens, new useful
 feature.

Also Mail is working fine, no problems.

Regards,

Paul
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Re: Mavericks

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Paul,

I'm pleased to hear everything went well.
When you do the preparation work and correctly install and then do the 'Post 
Installation steps' you normally won't experience any problems.

Regards,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 5 Feb 2014, at 12:23 pm, Paul Willemse pjwille...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Just to thank you again and let you know I finished the Mavericks install as 
 per your instructions this morning without any trouble. 
 
 Little bit surprised to have a menubar on each of my screens, new useful  
 feature.
 
 Also Mail is working fine, no problems.
 
 Regards,
 
 Paul
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Re: Mavericks Update

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni

Thanks very much for your great summary of what to do for the update to 
Mavericks, as I too have been thinking about this for the last few weeks!

However Im not sure I can as my MBPro is running 10.6.8 and I have another 
older machine which Cath uses, running even earlier OSX!

Is this the case Ronni? Would I have to first update to Lion? Is it worth doing 
this or should I persist until I upgrade my machines?

Many thanks and best regards

Chris

Christopher L.K. Burton
Director
Western Whale Research
PO Box 1076
Dunsborough WA 6281
Mobile: 0419 199 120
Email: c...@it.net.au 

www.souwest.org

On 02/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

 On 2 Feb 2014, at 2:42 pm, Paul Willemse pjwille...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 I have not yet updated to Mavericks as before I left there were apparently 
 still problems. I did a search on the mailing list but did not find anything 
 that indicated a specific fix or update.
 
 So it looks like the only way will be to upgrade and see, I was not even 
 aware that Mavericks had been updated.
 
 Hi Paul,
 
 Mavericks OS X 10.9 has had an Update to Mail plus an update to OS X 10.9.1
 
 If you make sure you do the Preparation before upgrading to Mavericks and 
 then follow the 'Installing  After Installation completes' as below you 
 should not experience problems.
 
 First thing to do is: 
 
 Get your Mac ready for Mavericks OS X 10.9
 
 INSTALLING MAVERICKS OS X 10.9
 DON’T FORGET TO BACKUP FIRST:
 
 1. Backup your system BEFORE installing
 2. Repair Permissions before installing
 3. Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences
 4. Unmount  Disconnect any External USB  Firewire Drives /TimeMachine
 5. Download the Mavericks OS X 10.9 upgrade app from the Mac App Store.
 6. Run the Mavericks OS X 10.9 upgrade app to Install Mavericks
 ** Apple warning for installing Updates:
 Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update 
 your system.
 
 What to do after installation of Lion-Mountain Lion-or Mavericks completes 
 and your Mac restarts
 Spotlight
 
 1. In most cases, as soon as Lion or Mountain Lion or Mavericks starts up the 
 first time, Spotlight begins indexing (or re-indexing) all the files on all 
 mounted volumes.
 This process can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours, depending 
 on how many files you have and the speed of your CPU and disk.
 
 During this time, you’ll notice a lot of disk activity (along with, perhaps, 
 somewhat sluggish overall performance), and you’ll see a pulsing dot in the 
 center of Spotlight’s magnifying glass icon on the right side of your menu 
 bar. (Clicking this icon during indexing displays an estimate of the time 
 remaining for each volume.)
 
 Software Update
 
 2. After Spotlight has finished indexing the Volume: Run Software Update
 The next thing you should do is to update Mac OS X itself (and any other 
 crucial Apple software) to the latest version. Sometimes Apple releases bug 
 fixes and security updates almost immediately after a major upgrade, and if 
 any such urgent updates are available, it’s in your best interest to install 
 them right away.
 
 Shortly after your Mac starts up under Lion or Mountain Lion for the first 
 time, Software Update should run automatically; if it finds updated software, 
 it displays an alert “Software updates are available for your computer..”
 
 If Software Update does not run, choose Apple   Software Update. Software 
 Update checks if a newer version of Mac OS X (or any of the software 
 installed with it) is available—and if so, offers to download and install it.
 
 Repair Permissions
 
 3. Repair Permissions
 
 Let Apple Applications Update their Databases
 
 4. Open Apple Mail from the Applications folder and let it update the Mail 
 Database 
 
 5. Open iPhoto from the Applications folder and let it update the iPhoto 
 Database 
 
 6. Open iTunes from the Applications folder and let it update the database
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I was away for a long time, doing wine tours in Australia and the US, good 
 stuff if you have the time!
 
 Regards,
 
 Paul 
 
 
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Re: Mavericks Update

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,

In the link I sent in my previous email:
 First thing to do is: 
 Get your Mac ready for Mavericks OS X 10.9
 
Gives list of compatible models that can install Mavericks
iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
MacBook Pro 13-inch (Mid-2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro 15-inch (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
MacBook Pro 17-inch (Late 2007 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
Xserve (Early 2009)
(Note that while all of the above computers can install Mavericks, some 
features, such as Power Nap, AirPlay mirroring and extended desktop, and 
AirDrop, have stricter requirements.)

Also if you are going from OS X 10.6.8 you need to check you don't have any 
Applications that are labelled Classic or PowerPC as they will NOT work in 
Mountain Lion or Mavericks.
ONLY  Universal  Intel will run in Mountain Lion  Mavericks

You also require a lot of Free Space on your Hard Drive to run Mavericks well.
If your Mac meets the requirements for Mavericks  your Applications are 
compatible you can upgrade from Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 to Mavericks.

If you go to my website and download my Tutorial Prepare for  Installation of 
Mountain Lion OS X 10.8 you will find all the details. 
It is the same as 'Prepare for   Installation' details as required for 
Mavericks.

http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-mountain-lion/index.html
If you do download the tutorial I would appreciate a donation. Details are on 
my website.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:58 pm, Chris Burton c...@it.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks very much for your great summary of what to do for the update to 
 Mavericks, as I too have been thinking about this for the last few weeks!
 
 However Im not sure I can as my MBPro is running 10.6.8 and I have another 
 older machine which Cath uses, running even earlier OSX!
 
 Is this the case Ronni? Would I have to first update to Lion? Is it worth 
 doing this or should I persist until I upgrade my machines?
 
 Many thanks and best regards
 
 Chris
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 www.souwest.org
 
 On 02/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:
 
 On 2 Feb 2014, at 2:42 pm, Paul Willemse pjwille...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 I have not yet updated to Mavericks as before I left there were apparently 
 still problems. I did a search on the mailing list but did not find 
 anything that indicated a specific fix or update.
 
 So it looks like the only way will be to upgrade and see, I was not even 
 aware that Mavericks had been updated.
 
 Hi Paul,
 
 Mavericks OS X 10.9 has had an Update to Mail plus an update to OS X 10.9.1
 
 If you make sure you do the Preparation before upgrading to Mavericks and 
 then follow the 'Installing  After Installation completes' as below you 
 should not experience problems.
 
 First thing to do is: 
 
 Get your Mac ready for Mavericks OS X 10.9
 
 INSTALLING MAVERICKS OS X 10.9
 DON’T FORGET TO BACKUP FIRST:
 
 1. Backup your system BEFORE installing
 2. Repair Permissions before installing
 3. Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences
 4. Unmount  Disconnect any External USB  Firewire Drives /TimeMachine
 5. Download the Mavericks OS X 10.9 upgrade app from the Mac App Store.
 6. Run the Mavericks OS X 10.9 upgrade app to Install Mavericks
 ** Apple warning for installing Updates:
 Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update 
 your system.
 
 What to do after installation of Lion-Mountain Lion-or Mavericks completes 
 and your Mac restarts
 Spotlight
 
 1. In most cases, as soon as Lion or Mountain Lion or Mavericks starts up 
 the first time, Spotlight begins indexing (or re-indexing) all the files on 
 all mounted volumes.
 This process can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours, 
 depending on how many files you have and the speed of your CPU and disk.
 
 During this time, you’ll notice a lot of disk activity (along with, perhaps, 
 somewhat sluggish overall performance), and you’ll see a pulsing dot in the 
 center of Spotlight’s magnifying glass icon on the right side of your menu 
 bar. (Clicking this icon during indexing displays an estimate of the time 
 remaining for each volume.)
 
 Software Update
 
 2. After Spotlight has finished indexing the Volume: Run Software Update
 The next thing you should do is to update Mac OS X itself (and any other 
 crucial Apple software) to the latest version. Sometimes Apple releases bug 
 fixes and security updates almost immediately after a major upgrade, and if 
 any such urgent updates are available, it’s in your best interest to install 
 them right away.
 
 Shortly after your Mac starts up under Lion or Mountain Lion for the first 
 time, Software Update should run automatically; if it finds updated 
 software, it displays an alert 

Re: Mavericks Update

[Paul Willemse]

Hi Ronni

Just saw your reply, will do the upgrade this evening, assuming I get home
from my meetings at a reasonable hour.

Many thanks for your excellent response,

Regards,

Paul
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Re: Mavericks Update

[Paul Willemse]

Hi Ronni

I have not yet updated to Mavericks as before I left there were apparently
still problems. I did a search on the mailing list but did not find
anything that indicated a specific fix or update.

So it looks like the only way will be to upgrade and see, I was not even
aware that Mavericks had been updated. I was away for a long time, doing
wine tours in Australia and the US, good stuff if you have the time!

Regards,

Paul


Hi Paul,

On 28 Jan 2014, at 4:54 pm, Paul Willemse pjwille...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All,

I have been away for a few weeks, what is the latest regarding the
Mavericks update and Mail? Have the issues been resolved?


What issues are you referring to?

Are you having issues with Exchange Servers with Mavericks Mail?
Or Gmail's unconventional IMAP implementation with Mavericks Mail?

Are you already running OS X Mavericks 10.9.1 and have installed the Mail
Update for Mavericks?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad


TIA,

Regards,

Paul

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Re: Mavericks Update

[Ronni Brown]

On 2 Feb 2014, at 2:42 pm, Paul Willemse pjwille...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 I have not yet updated to Mavericks as before I left there were apparently 
 still problems. I did a search on the mailing list but did not find anything 
 that indicated a specific fix or update.
 
 So it looks like the only way will be to upgrade and see, I was not even 
 aware that Mavericks had been updated.

Hi Paul,

Mavericks OS X 10.9 has had an Update to Mail plus an update to OS X 10.9.1

If you make sure you do the Preparation before upgrading to Mavericks and then 
follow the 'Installing  After Installation completes' as below you should not 
experience problems.

First thing to do is: 

Get your Mac ready for Mavericks OS X 10.9

INSTALLING MAVERICKS OS X 10.9
DON’T FORGET TO BACKUP FIRST:

1. Backup your system BEFORE installing
2. Repair Permissions before installing
3. Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences
4. Unmount  Disconnect any External USB  Firewire Drives /TimeMachine
5. Download the Mavericks OS X 10.9 upgrade app from the Mac App Store.
6. Run the Mavericks OS X 10.9 upgrade app to Install Mavericks
** Apple warning for installing Updates:
Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update your 
system.

What to do after installation of Lion-Mountain Lion-or Mavericks completes and 
your Mac restarts
Spotlight

1. In most cases, as soon as Lion or Mountain Lion or Mavericks starts up the 
first time, Spotlight begins indexing (or re-indexing) all the files on all 
mounted volumes.
This process can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours, depending 
on how many files you have and the speed of your CPU and disk.

During this time, you’ll notice a lot of disk activity (along with, perhaps, 
somewhat sluggish overall performance), and you’ll see a pulsing dot in the 
center of Spotlight’s magnifying glass icon on the right side of your menu bar. 
(Clicking this icon during indexing displays an estimate of the time remaining 
for each volume.)

Software Update

2. After Spotlight has finished indexing the Volume: Run Software Update
The next thing you should do is to update Mac OS X itself (and any other 
crucial Apple software) to the latest version. Sometimes Apple releases bug 
fixes and security updates almost immediately after a major upgrade, and if any 
such urgent updates are available, it’s in your best interest to install them 
right away.

Shortly after your Mac starts up under Lion or Mountain Lion for the first 
time, Software Update should run automatically; if it finds updated software, 
it displays an alert “Software updates are available for your computer..”

If Software Update does not run, choose Apple   Software Update. Software 
Update checks if a newer version of Mac OS X (or any of the software installed 
with it) is available—and if so, offers to download and install it.

Repair Permissions

3. Repair Permissions

Let Apple Applications Update their Databases

4. Open Apple Mail from the Applications folder and let it update the Mail 
Database 

5. Open iPhoto from the Applications folder and let it update the iPhoto 
Database 

6. Open iTunes from the Applications folder and let it update the database


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
















 I was away for a long time, doing wine tours in Australia and the US, good 
 stuff if you have the time!
 
 Regards,
 
 Paul 
 

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Re: Mavericks Update

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Paul,

 On 28 Jan 2014, at 4:54 pm, Paul Willemse pjwille...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have been away for a few weeks, what is the latest regarding the Mavericks 
 update and Mail? Have the issues been resolved?

What issues are you referring to?

Are you having issues with Exchange Servers with Mavericks Mail?
Or Gmail's unconventional IMAP implementation with Mavericks Mail?

Are you already running OS X Mavericks 10.9.1 and have installed the Mail 
Update for Mavericks?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 TIA,
 
 Regards,
 
 Paul
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Re: Mavericks

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Ronni,

Thanks for your comments. Have tried what you suggested.
I can live with the CPU graph on the desktop, but what used to be the system 
memory
icon in the dock (a pie chart that went mostly blue when recording long movies 
in EyeTV) is
now a narrow line. I can’t see the option “Show memory usage” any more, which 
was available
in the pull up menu in the dock.

Cheers,
Walter
On 10 Dec 2013, at 21:12 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the desktop 
 looks different too.
 
 View network activity in the Activity Monitor Dock
 
 Choose View  Dock Icon  Show Network Usage.
 
 Select the type of activity displayed in the graph
 
 In the Activity Monitor window, you can change the type of data displayed in 
 the network activity graph. 
 The type of data you select is shown in the graph in the Activity Monitor 
 window and in Activity Monitor’s Dock icon.
 
 1. Click Network at the top of the Activity Monitor window.
 2. Click Packets or Data above the graph.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 8:30 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 I have one D. Pogue missing manual for Leopard already and found it very 
 good.
 Its much more than just a user manual. Have to arrange for father christmas 
 at Amazon to 
 deliver the Mavericks version early next year.
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the desktop 
 looks different too.
 
 Thanks for your reply Ronni.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 19:08 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Forgot to mention that you need to Pre-Order the book.
 OS X Mavericks: The missing Manual  by Author David Pogue is not released 
 until 31st December. I Pre-Ordered my copy quite some time ago.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 7:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 5:53 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Hello Walter,
 
 Have just upgraded to Maverick.
 
 It is OS X Mavericks 10.9   (has an 's')
 
 Can I use the same bootable HD (ML) to do the occasional SuperDuper 
 backup ?
 
 Yes, SuperDuper does a bootable 'Clone' of your computer.
 
 Is there an official Maverick user manual ?
 
 Apple don't supply manuals for the OS (Operating System).
 
 Use Finder  Help  Help Center. It's just like a manual! 
 And it's built into the OS!
 
 OS X Mavericks: The missing Manual  by Author David Pogue is one book I 
 would recommend people purchase.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
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Re: Mavericks

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Walter,

The 'Pie Chart' is no longer an option, especially since Mavericks has new 
memory management routines (ie, memory compression) that make the charting of 
memory usage less straightforward. 
Apple has switched to a new Memory Pressure approach to viewing memory usage, 
which is available in the Memory section of Activity Monitor, but so far has 
not been added as a Dock icon option. 

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad


 On 10 Dec 2013, at 10:19 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Thanks for your comments. Have tried what you suggested.
 I can live with the CPU graph on the desktop, but what used to be the system 
 memory
 icon in the dock (a pie chart that went mostly blue when recording long 
 movies in EyeTV) is
 now a narrow line. I can’t see the option “Show memory usage” any more, which 
 was available
 in the pull up menu in the dock.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 21:12 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the desktop 
 looks different too.
 
 View network activity in the Activity Monitor Dock
 
 Choose View  Dock Icon  Show Network Usage.
 
 Select the type of activity displayed in the graph
 
 In the Activity Monitor window, you can change the type of data displayed in 
 the network activity graph. 
 The type of data you select is shown in the graph in the Activity Monitor 
 window and in Activity Monitor’s Dock icon.
 
 1. Click Network at the top of the Activity Monitor window.
 2. Click Packets or Data above the graph.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 8:30 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 I have one D. Pogue missing manual for Leopard already and found it very 
 good.
 Its much more than just a user manual. Have to arrange for father christmas 
 at Amazon to 
 deliver the Mavericks version early next year.
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the desktop 
 looks different too.
 
 Thanks for your reply Ronni.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 19:08 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Forgot to mention that you need to Pre-Order the book.
 OS X Mavericks: The missing Manual  by Author David Pogue is not 
 released until 31st December. I Pre-Ordered my copy quite some time ago.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 7:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 5:53 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Hello Walter,
 
 Have just upgraded to Maverick.
 
 It is OS X Mavericks 10.9   (has an 's')
 
 Can I use the same bootable HD (ML) to do the occasional SuperDuper 
 backup ?
 
 Yes, SuperDuper does a bootable 'Clone' of your computer.
 
 Is there an official Maverick user manual ?
 
 Apple don't supply manuals for the OS (Operating System).
 
 Use Finder  Help  Help Center. It's just like a manual! 
 And it's built into the OS!
 
 OS X Mavericks: The missing Manual  by Author David Pogue is one book I 
 would recommend people purchase.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
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Re: Mavericks

[F.W. Hänel]

Thanks  Ronni,

Now I understand, I’ll open the memory section to look at my situation.

Thank you,

Cheers,
Walter
On 11 Dec 2013, at 05:21 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 
 The 'Pie Chart' is no longer an option, especially since Mavericks has new 
 memory management routines (ie, memory compression) that make the charting of 
 memory usage less straightforward. 
 Apple has switched to a new Memory Pressure approach to viewing memory 
 usage, which is available in the Memory section of Activity Monitor, but so 
 far has not been added as a Dock icon option. 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 10:19 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Thanks for your comments. Have tried what you suggested.
 I can live with the CPU graph on the desktop, but what used to be the system 
 memory
 icon in the dock (a pie chart that went mostly blue when recording long 
 movies in EyeTV) is
 now a narrow line. I can’t see the option “Show memory usage” any more, 
 which was available
 in the pull up menu in the dock.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 21:12 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the 
 desktop looks different too.
 
 View network activity in the Activity Monitor Dock
 
 Choose View  Dock Icon  Show Network Usage.
 
 Select the type of activity displayed in the graph
 
 In the Activity Monitor window, you can change the type of data displayed 
 in the network activity graph. 
 The type of data you select is shown in the graph in the Activity Monitor 
 window and in Activity Monitor’s Dock icon.
 
 1. Click Network at the top of the Activity Monitor window.
 2. Click Packets or Data above the graph.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 8:30 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 I have one D. Pogue missing manual for Leopard already and found it very 
 good.
 Its much more than just a user manual. Have to arrange for father 
 christmas at Amazon to 
 deliver the Mavericks version early next year.
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the 
 desktop looks different too.
 
 Thanks for your reply Ronni.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 19:08 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Forgot to mention that you need to Pre-Order the book.
 OS X Mavericks: The missing Manual  by Author David Pogue is not 
 released until 31st December. I Pre-Ordered my copy quite some time ago.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 7:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 5:53 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Hello Walter,
 
 Have just upgraded to Maverick.
 
 It is OS X Mavericks 10.9   (has an 's')
 
 Can I use the same bootable HD (ML) to do the occasional SuperDuper 
 backup ?
 
 Yes, SuperDuper does a bootable 'Clone' of your computer.
 
 Is there an official Maverick user manual ?
 
 Apple don't supply manuals for the OS (Operating System).
 
 Use Finder  Help  Help Center. It's just like a manual! 
 And it's built into the OS!
 
 OS X Mavericks: The missing Manual  by Author David Pogue is one book 
 I would recommend people purchase.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
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Re: Mavericks

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Walter,

A Document I would recommend you download and read is the October 2013 -  OS X 
Mavericks  Core Technologies Overview PDF
Go to this Link 
http://images.apple.com/media/us/osx/2013/docs/OSX_Mavericks_Core_Technology_Overview.pdf

On Page 7: - especially read the sections explaining: Compressed Memory  Power 
Efficiency 

OS X Mavericks virtual memory compression is a big win for anyone on the 
margins of not quite enough memory.
Virtual memory compression means that real work gets done faster by idling CPU 
cores less often and for a shorter duration, often coming entirely for “free” 
by using CPU cores that are otherwise idle anyway.

With virtual memory compression, there is no disk activity and the memory 
compression itself is extremely fast. Hence compressed virtual memory is a 
massive net win: while there is some CPU utilization for the compression but 
real work on all CPU cores gets back “on task” in far less time, rather than 
idling the CPU cores waiting for disk I/O to complete.

Activity Monitor (in my opinion) is possibly the most improved utility in 
Mavericks.
Activity Monitor now allows you to check energy usage through a dedicated tab. 
You can also get a glimpse by clicking the battery in your menubar. On top of 
that, you can visit the View menu to change Activity Monitor’s icon to CPU 
usage (and other) meters and run System Diagnostics.

View system memory usage

Click Memory to see the following:

Physical Memory: The amount of RAM installed.
Memory Used: The amount of RAM being used and not immediately available.
Virtual Memory: The amount of disk or flash drive space being used as virtual 
memory.
Swap Used: The space on your drive being used to swap unused files to and from 
RAM.
App Memory: The amount of space being used by apps.
Wired Memory: Memory that can’t be cached to disk, so it must stay in RAM. This 
memory can’t be borrowed by other apps.
Compressed: The amount of memory in RAM that is compressed.
File Cache: The space being used to temporarily store files that are not 
currently being used.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 11 Dec 2013, at 5:50 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Thanks  Ronni,
 
 Now I understand, I’ll open the memory section to look at my situation.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 On 11 Dec 2013, at 05:21 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 The 'Pie Chart' is no longer an option, especially since Mavericks has new 
 memory management routines (ie, memory compression) that make the charting 
 of memory usage less straightforward. 
 Apple has switched to a new Memory Pressure approach to viewing memory 
 usage, which is available in the Memory section of Activity Monitor, but so 
 far has not been added as a Dock icon option. 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 10:19 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Thanks for your comments. Have tried what you suggested.
 I can live with the CPU graph on the desktop, but what used to be the 
 system memory
 icon in the dock (a pie chart that went mostly blue when recording long 
 movies in EyeTV) is
 now a narrow line. I can’t see the option “Show memory usage” any more, 
 which was available
 in the pull up menu in the dock.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 21:12 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the 
 desktop looks different too.
 
 View network activity in the Activity Monitor Dock
 
 Choose View  Dock Icon  Show Network Usage.
 
 Select the type of activity displayed in the graph
 
 In the Activity Monitor window, you can change the type of data displayed 
 in the network activity graph. 
 The type of data you select is shown in the graph in the Activity Monitor 
 window and in Activity Monitor’s Dock icon.
 
 1. Click Network at the top of the Activity Monitor window.
 2. Click Packets or Data above the graph.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 8:30 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 I have one D. Pogue missing manual for Leopard already and found it very 
 good.
 Its much more than just a user manual. Have to arrange for father 
 christmas at Amazon to 
 deliver the Mavericks version early next year.
 
 Also tried unsuccessfully to install the same Activity Monitor dock icon 
 (was a pie chart in ML)
 but it’s not available in Mavericks ? The CPU activity graph on the 
 desktop looks different too.
 
 Thanks for your reply Ronni.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 19:08 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Forgot to mention that you need to Pre-Order the book.
 OS X Mavericks: The missing Manual  by Author David Pogue is not 
 released until 31st December. I Pre-Ordered my copy quite some time ago.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 7:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2013, at 

a little advice please re Mavericks

[wyvern]

Hi Guys

I have just updated my newish mini with Mavericks and started wondering about 
my MacBook Pro which is currently running 10.6.8.

MacBook Pro 3,1
Processor 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Mavericks says MacBook Pro (mid-/late 2007 or newer) which the 3,1 is.

Would those in the know advise updating system or leaving well alone?

Thanks

Yvonne


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Re: a little advice please re Mavericks

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 5 Dec 2013, at 5:42 pm, wyv...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Guys
 
 I have just updated my newish mini with Mavericks and started wondering about 
 my MacBook Pro which is currently running 10.6.8.
 
 MacBook Pro 3,1
 Processor 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 Memory 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
 
 Mavericks says MacBook Pro (mid-/late 2007 or newer) which the 3,1 is.
 
 Would those in the know advise updating system or leaving well alone?
 
 Thanks
 
 Yvonne
 

Since there is no apparent technical reason not to upgrade, you have to rule 
out any personal reasons, eg, are you dependent upon any legacy software on 
your Macbook Pro such as AppleWorks or anything else which is not compatible 
with Mavericks? You'll have to do a little research in this area if you haven't 
done so already. 

Assuming that you're comfortable that your working environment won't be 
compromised by compatibility issues, you have appropriate backups, and your 
Macbook Pro has enough space on the hard drive, I can't see any reason not to 
proceed. With the significant differences in the feature list between Mavericks 
and 10.6.8, you'll eventually find that working in two increasingly different 
OSes will become frustrating.

Having said all that, proceed at your own risk...   :-)


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
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Re: Mavericks saving as image

[Stuart Breden]

Useful information.

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On 07/11/2013, at 8:09 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 Hi Alan
 
 If you've kept the Install Mavericks installer that got downloaded, then 
 yes you can save it to install on other computers. If it's already gone or 
 been deleted, then unfortunately you need to download it again.
 
 There are a couple of steps to make a bootable install, as posted previously. 
 I've copy and posted them here as well.
 
 Ronni's post.
 /quote
 
 It is quite a bit different to Make A Bootable Install Drive in Mavericks. 
 There are a couple of ways to do it, either using Terminal, or you can use 
 Disk Utility, (I would not suggest you use Lion DiskMaker as it is still in 
 Beta for Mavericks).
 
 The easiest is Using Mavericks’ new bootable-drive-creation feature Hidden 
 inside the Mavericks installer is a Unix program called createinstallmedia 
 provided by Apple to create a bootable Mavericks installer. If you’re 
 comfortable using Terminal, it’s a relatively simple tool to use. The program 
 assumes your account has administrator privileges.
 
 Note: if you leave the Mavericks installer in its default location in the 
 Applications folder when you install OS X 10.9, the installer will be deleted 
 automatically after the installation finishes. So if you plan to use that 
 installer on other Macs, or—in this case—to create a bootable drive, be sure 
 to copy the installer to another drive, or at least move it out of the 
 Applications folder, before you install. If you don't, you'll have to 
 re-download the installer from the Mac App Store before you can create a 
 bootable install drive.
 
 You need a drive (a hard drive, SSD, thumb drive, or USB stick) that’s big 
 enough to hold the installer and all its data—at least an 8GB flash drive. 
 That drive must also be formatted with a GUID Partition Table. 
 
 Create the Mavericks install drive
 Using Mavericks’ new bootable-drive-creation feature Hidden inside the 
 Mavericks installer is a Unix program called createinstallmedia provided by 
 Apple to create a bootable Mavericks installer. If you’re comfortable using 
 Terminal, it’s a relatively simple tool to use. The program assumes your 
 account has administrator privileges.
 
 You will have to make sure that the Mavericks installer is in your Main 
 Applications folder. The Terminal command assumes the installer is in its 
 default location. You will have to move it back there after you copied it to 
 another drive or moved it out of the Applications folder as explained above.
 Best to go here for all the detailed instructions to follow:
 http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
 /end quote
 
 my post
 /quote
 Apparently the DiskMakerX program has been updated to work with Mavericks 
 now,…so that seems to be the easier way if you don't want to jump into 
 Terminal.
 You can see more about it here as well -
 http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-10-9-mavericks-usb-install-drive/
 
 And the direct link for DiskMaker X - http://diskmakerx.com
 
 All the normal back up, take care, be careful, not responsible if it goes 
 wrong,…etc etc,…warnings apply :o)
 
 I just used the Terminal command from the above site and it worked great, no 
 problems at all. My support boot drive now has a very nice Mavericks 
 installer complete with self designed background picture. :o)
 (though my USB drive now has a lot of partitions,…with al the installers back 
 to 10.6.3 and vanilla HD Boot drives,….lol).
 /end quote
 
 The Apple ID may be the tricking part. But what you can do, is start the 
 download under the other AppleID then once it starts downloading, pause it. 
 Quit Software Update then install from your installer. That way it will be 
 tied to the correct ID for later/next time
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
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 On 07/11/2013, at 7:22 PM, Alan Fenton alc...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 I need to save Mavericks to put on three other macs.
 My data allowance is 8GB with telstra and 16 GB with iinet. 
 I used 10GB on iinet updating my iPhone os, Mavericks, Pages, Numbers, 
 iPhoto and a few others.
 I have 3 iMacs and one iPhone to update.
 
 Two iMacs and the iPhone are on a different 

Re: Mavericks saving as image

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Alan

If you've kept the Install Mavericks installer that got downloaded, then yes 
you can save it to install on other computers. If it's already gone or been 
deleted, then unfortunately you need to download it again.

There are a couple of steps to make a bootable install, as posted previously. 
I've copy and posted them here as well.

Ronni's post.
/quote

It is quite a bit different to Make A Bootable Install Drive in Mavericks. 
There are a couple of ways to do it, either using Terminal, or you can use Disk 
Utility, (I would not suggest you use Lion DiskMaker as it is still in Beta for 
Mavericks).

The easiest is Using Mavericks’ new bootable-drive-creation feature Hidden 
inside the Mavericks installer is a Unix program called createinstallmedia 
provided by Apple to create a bootable Mavericks installer. If you’re 
comfortable using Terminal, it’s a relatively simple tool to use. The program 
assumes your account has administrator privileges.

Note: if you leave the Mavericks installer in its default location in the 
Applications folder when you install OS X 10.9, the installer will be deleted 
automatically after the installation finishes. So if you plan to use that 
installer on other Macs, or—in this case—to create a bootable drive, be sure to 
copy the installer to another drive, or at least move it out of the 
Applications folder, before you install. If you don't, you'll have to 
re-download the installer from the Mac App Store before you can create a 
bootable install drive.

You need a drive (a hard drive, SSD, thumb drive, or USB stick) that’s big 
enough to hold the installer and all its data—at least an 8GB flash drive. That 
drive must also be formatted with a GUID Partition Table. 

Create the Mavericks install drive
Using Mavericks’ new bootable-drive-creation feature Hidden inside the 
Mavericks installer is a Unix program called createinstallmedia provided by 
Apple to create a bootable Mavericks installer. If you’re comfortable using 
Terminal, it’s a relatively simple tool to use. The program assumes your 
account has administrator privileges.

You will have to make sure that the Mavericks installer is in your Main 
Applications folder. The Terminal command assumes the installer is in its 
default location. You will have to move it back there after you copied it to 
another drive or moved it out of the Applications folder as explained above.
Best to go here for all the detailed instructions to follow:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
/end quote

my post
/quote
Apparently the DiskMakerX program has been updated to work with Mavericks 
now,…so that seems to be the easier way if you don't want to jump into 
Terminal.
You can see more about it here as well -
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-10-9-mavericks-usb-install-drive/

And the direct link for DiskMaker X - http://diskmakerx.com

All the normal back up, take care, be careful, not responsible if it goes 
wrong,…etc etc,…warnings apply :o)

I just used the Terminal command from the above site and it worked great, no 
problems at all. My support boot drive now has a very nice Mavericks installer 
complete with self designed background picture. :o)
(though my USB drive now has a lot of partitions,…with al the installers back 
to 10.6.3 and vanilla HD Boot drives,….lol).
/end quote

The Apple ID may be the tricking part. But what you can do, is start the 
download under the other AppleID then once it starts downloading, pause it. 
Quit Software Update then install from your installer. That way it will be tied 
to the correct ID for later/next time

Hope that helps.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5

---
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Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau
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On 07/11/2013, at 7:22 PM, Alan Fenton alc...@bigpond.com wrote:

 I need to save Mavericks to put on three other macs.
 My data allowance is 8GB with telstra and 16 GB with iinet. 
 I used 10GB on iinet updating my iPhone os, Mavericks, Pages, Numbers, iPhoto 
 and a few others.
 I have 3 iMacs and one iPhone to update.
 
 Two iMacs and the iPhone are on a different Apple account.
 
 I hope there is a practical solution.
 
 From Alan.
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Re: Mavericks - Sync contact, events

[Stuart Breden]

Thanks!  That's reassuring!

I'm currently on OS 10.7.5.  Can I go directly to Mavericks or do I have to 
upgrade to Mountain Lion first?

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On 01/11/2013, at 11:45 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 If you use OS X Mavericks v.10.9 or later, your contacts, calendars, and 
 other info are updated on your computers and iOS devices via iCloud. For more 
 information, see iCloud Help at icloud.com.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12117
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 1 Nov 2013, at 11:21 am, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 I followed the discussion about Mavericks not syncing contacts and events 
 between devices.  I uss this a lot between home and work and my iPhone.
 
 I did not see mentioned other applications that you can use to do this.  
 Suggestions?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
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 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
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Re: Mavericks - Sync contact, events

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Stuart,
Apple website says can you upgrade from 10.6.8, 10.7 and 10.8.
So looks like you should be fine.

On 5 Nov 2013, at 2:47 pm, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

 Thanks!  That's reassuring!
 
 I'm currently on OS 10.7.5.  Can I go directly to Mavericks or do I have to 
 upgrade to Mountain Lion first?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
 Please consider the environment before printing this email
 
 
 
 On 01/11/2013, at 11:45 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 If you use OS X Mavericks v.10.9 or later, your contacts, calendars, and 
 other info are updated on your computers and iOS devices via iCloud. For 
 more information, see iCloud Help at icloud.com.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12117
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 1 Nov 2013, at 11:21 am, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 I followed the discussion about Mavericks not syncing contacts and events 
 between devices.  I uss this a lot between home and work and my iPhone.
 
 I did not see mentioned other applications that you can use to do this.  
 Suggestions?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
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Re: Mavericks - Sync contact, events

[Ronda Brown]

As long as you are not experiencing ANY problems/issues on your current setup.
And don't just rush in without doing  all the pre-updating of your current 
applications, check your non generic applications, add-ons/plugins and printer 
etc are going to be compatible  work in Mavericks. 

Then do the Backup  Preparation, this has all been posted on WAMUG before. 

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 5 Nov 2013, at 2:56 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi Stuart,
 Apple website says can you upgrade from 10.6.8, 10.7 and 10.8.
 So looks like you should be fine.
 
 On 5 Nov 2013, at 2:47 pm, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 Thanks!  That's reassuring!
 
 I'm currently on OS 10.7.5.  Can I go directly to Mavericks or do I have to 
 upgrade to Mountain Lion first?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
 Please consider the environment before printing this email
 
 
 
 On 01/11/2013, at 11:45 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 If you use OS X Mavericks v.10.9 or later, your contacts, calendars, and 
 other info are updated on your computers and iOS devices via iCloud. For 
 more information, see iCloud Help at icloud.com.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12117
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 1 Nov 2013, at 11:21 am, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 I followed the discussion about Mavericks not syncing contacts and events 
 between devices.  I uss this a lot between home and work and my iPhone.
 
 I did not see mentioned other applications that you can use to do this.  
 Suggestions?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
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Re: Mavericks - Sync contact, events

[Ronda Brown]

If you use OS X Mavericks v.10.9 or later, your contacts, calendars, and other 
info are updated on your computers and iOS devices via iCloud. For more 
information, see iCloud Help at icloud.com.

http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12117

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 1 Nov 2013, at 11:21 am, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 I followed the discussion about Mavericks not syncing contacts and events 
 between devices.  I uss this a lot between home and work and my iPhone.
 
 I did not see mentioned other applications that you can use to do this.  
 Suggestions?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[Ronda Brown]

 On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:37 pm, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 What has happened to the limit on mail retained in IOS7 Mail?   Used to be 50 
 but I currently have 318 showing for two users and counting!   Can not find 
 where to change it.

Hi Severin,

Stop looking, you won't find it!
The 50 limit option to limit the number of emails displayed in the mail app was 
removed in iOS7 and you can not change back to iOS6. 
Apple need to hear from you if you want to see a change:
 
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ lodge a complaint under iPhone or iPad and 
request this feature to be returned. 
There are a lot of people who want it changed back to what it was in iOS6.

Cheers,
Ronni
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Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress

[Brian Risbey]

Hi All
My MacBookPro couldn't  find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after 
reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be 
restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB.


Brian
Sent from my iPhone5
IOS 7.03

 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users ,
 
 This was troubling me!  
 Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when 
 it was Backing Up. 
 Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder  Preferences  General. 
 I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine Buddy' 
 widget - but not mounted on the Desktop.
  
 This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on 
 the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. 
 Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have not 
 checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups.
  
 For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new 
 look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best!
 Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time 
 Machine backups to occur during Power Naps?
 
 The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is 
 happening in the background. 
 While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow 
 (Two Arrows in the clock face)  
 When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face)
 
 Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png
 
 Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment.
 Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very 
 tiny :(
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Brian,

My Time Machine backups have always been working perfectly in Mavericks, that 
has never been a problem.
My post was about the Time Capsule / Time Machine backup not showing on the 
Desktop when Time Machine is backing up.

Do you use Time Machine to backup to a Time Capsule Data Disk... Or do you use 
Time Machine to backup to an external drive attached to your MBP?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:14 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi All
 My MacBookPro couldn't  find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after 
 reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be 
 restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB.
 
 
 Brian
 Sent from my iPhone5
 IOS 7.03
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users ,
 
 This was troubling me!  
 Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when 
 it was Backing Up. 
 Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder  Preferences  General. 
 I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine 
 Buddy' widget - but not mounted on the Desktop.
 
 This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on 
 the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. 
 Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have 
 not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups.
 
 For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new 
 look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best!
 Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time 
 Machine backups to occur during Power Naps?
 
 The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is 
 happening in the background. 
 While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow 
 (Two Arrows in the clock face)  
 When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face)
 
 Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png
 
 Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment.
 Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very 
 tiny :(
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks Ronni, have sent it!  
Severin

On 29 Oct 2013, at 2:52 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:37 pm, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 What has happened to the limit on mail retained in IOS7 Mail?   Used to be 
 50 but I currently have 318 showing for two users and counting!   Can not 
 find where to change it.
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 Stop looking, you won't find it!
 The 50 limit option to limit the number of emails displayed in the mail app 
 was removed in iOS7 and you can not change back to iOS6. 
 Apple need to hear from you if you want to see a change:
  
 http://www.apple.com/feedback/ lodge a complaint under iPhone or iPad and 
 request this feature to be returned. 
 There are a lot of people who want it changed back to what it was in iOS6.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[Rob Phillips]

And I use the free/ shareware (remember that term!) app TinkerTool to 
set a bunch of settings like this.


Not sure if it's available for Mavericks yet.

Rob

On 29/10/13 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

Hi Mavericks adoptees,

Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just 
as Lion and Mountain Lion do.
You can open it easily enough by holding down *Option *while choosing 
Library from the Finder's*Go* menu, or you can use*Terminal.app 
*and**type the command  chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the 
quotes) and hit*Enter* and your User Library shows in Finder.


Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder 
visible all the time---no more fiddling in Terminal.
All you need to do is* open your Home Folder in its own window*, 
choose*View  Show View Options*, and select the *Show Library 
Folder *checkbox.


I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion  
Lion do; so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User 
Library will be re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... 
but it will be much quicker than having to go into Terminal every time 
after each update to the OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[Ronni Brown]

On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:09 pm, Rob Phillips r.phill...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 And I use the free/ shareware (remember that term!) app TinkerTool to set a 
 bunch of settings like this.

Why use Third Party apps when they are not required.
 
 Not sure if it's available for Mavericks yet.

TinkerTool Release 5.0 (Build 131022) adds support for OS X 10.9.

Cheers,
Ronni
 
 
 Rob
 
 On 29/10/13 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:
 Hi Mavericks adoptees,
 
 Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as 
 Lion and Mountain Lion do. 
 You can open it easily enough by holding down Option while choosing Library 
 from the Finder’s Go menu, or you can use Terminal.app and type the command  
 chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit Enter and your 
 User Library shows in Finder.
 
 Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible 
 all the time—no more fiddling in Terminal. 
 All you need to do is open your Home Folder in its own window, choose View  
 Show View Options, and select the Show Library Folder checkbox.
 
 I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion  Lion do; 
 so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be 
 re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much 
 quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the 
 OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 

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Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives backups - retitled for accuracy

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Ronni

I back up to a 2TB Time Capsule in extension(?) mode, my household wireless 
network includes an Airport Express as the main access to the modem, Airport 
Extreme - in 'extension mode' - for other external HD storage - movies/tv, and 
MacMini for the TV.

After updating to Mavericks TimeMachine wouldn't backup, it acknowledged the 
data disk but timed out when backing up.

Apple Support Community had this listed as an issue, so I thought I would 
mention it incase other members had this backup issue.

After turning the entire network off it self sorted, found the data disk and of 
it went merrily backing up, with the oldest back acknowledge as 22 Dec 2012 - 
so all is good.

One improvement I have noticed in Mavericks is when my MBP wakes after opening 
lid or button tap the password accepts the first character instead of 
highlighting it blue and erasing it as the second character is entered! so, no 
double entering in the first character very time.


Brian






On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:24 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Brian,

My Time Machine backups have always been working perfectly in Mavericks, that 
has never been a problem.
My post was about the Time Capsule / Time Machine backup not showing on the 
Desktop when Time Machine is backing up.

Do you use Time Machine to backup to a Time Capsule Data Disk... Or do you use 
Time Machine to backup to an external drive attached to your MBP?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:14 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi All
 My MacBookPro couldn't  find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after 
 reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be 
 restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB.
 
 
 Brian
 Sent from my iPhone5
 IOS 7.03
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users ,
 
 This was troubling me!  
 Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when 
 it was Backing Up. 
 Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder  Preferences  General. 
 I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine 
 Buddy' widget - but not mounted on the Desktop.
 
 This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on 
 the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. 
 Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have 
 not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups.
 
 For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new 
 look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best!
 Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time 
 Machine backups to occur during Power Naps?
 
 The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is 
 happening in the background. 
 While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow 
 (Two Arrows in the clock face)  
 When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face)
 
 Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png
 
 Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment.
 Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very 
 tiny :(
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
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Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives backups - retitled for accuracy

[Severin Crisp]

In contrast, my 2TB Time Capsule which backs up both my iMac and my wives 
Macbook was perfectly happy with the changeover after the updated and just 
carried on seamlessly, when I turned TM back on and pointed it to the Time 
Capsule disk.I seem to be one of the lucky ones in this.  
Severin Crisp


On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:11 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 I back up to a 2TB Time Capsule in extension(?) mode, my household wireless 
 network includes an Airport Express as the main access to the modem, Airport 
 Extreme - in 'extension mode' - for other external HD storage - movies/tv, 
 and MacMini for the TV.
 
 After updating to Mavericks TimeMachine wouldn't backup, it acknowledged the 
 data disk but timed out when backing up.
 
 Apple Support Community had this listed as an issue, so I thought I would 
 mention it incase other members had this backup issue.
 
 After turning the entire network off it self sorted, found the data disk and 
 of it went merrily backing up, with the oldest back acknowledge as 22 Dec 
 2012 - so all is good.
 
 One improvement I have noticed in Mavericks is when my MBP wakes after 
 opening lid or button tap the password accepts the first character instead of 
 highlighting it blue and erasing it as the second character is entered! so, 
 no double entering in the first character very time.
 
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:24 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 My Time Machine backups have always been working perfectly in Mavericks, that 
 has never been a problem.
 My post was about the Time Capsule / Time Machine backup not showing on the 
 Desktop when Time Machine is backing up.
 
 Do you use Time Machine to backup to a Time Capsule Data Disk... Or do you 
 use Time Machine to backup to an external drive attached to your MBP?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:14 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi All
 My MacBookPro couldn't  find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after 
 reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be 
 restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB.
 
 
 Brian
 Sent from my iPhone5
 IOS 7.03
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users ,
 
 This was troubling me!  
 Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when 
 it was Backing Up. 
 Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder  Preferences  General. 
 I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine 
 Buddy' widget - but not mounted on the Desktop.
 
 This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear 
 on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. 
 Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have 
 not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups.
 
 For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new 
 look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best!
 Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time 
 Machine backups to occur during Power Naps?
 
 The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is 
 happening in the background. 
 While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow 
 (Two Arrows in the clock face)  
 When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face)
 
 Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png
 
 Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment.
 Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very 
 tiny :(
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[John Thompson]

Hi Ronni,
It appears that after using Terminal to find ~/Library, it now stays 
permanently in the User, or Home, folder.

Regards

John
On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Mavericks adoptees,
 
 Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as Lion 
 and Mountain Lion do. 
 You can open it easily enough by holding down Option while choosing Library 
 from the Finder’s Go menu, or you can use Terminal.app and type the command  
 chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit Enter and your User 
 Library shows in Finder.
 
 Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible 
 all the time—no more fiddling in Terminal. 
 All you need to do is open your Home Folder in its own window, choose View  
 Show View Options, and select the Show Library Folder checkbox.
 
 I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion  Lion do; 
 so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be 
 re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much 
 quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the 
 OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[Ronda Brown]

Hi John,

Yes, the Terminal command will make the User Library permanently visible (until 
the next update 9.0.1 if Mavericks does the same as previous OS X).

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 30 Oct 2013, at 6:36 am, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
   It appears that after using Terminal to find ~/Library, it now stays 
 permanently in the User, or Home, folder.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mavericks adoptees,
 
 Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as 
 Lion and Mountain Lion do. 
 You can open it easily enough by holding down Option while choosing Library 
 from the Finder’s Go menu, or you can use Terminal.app and type the command  
 chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit Enter and your 
 User Library shows in Finder.
 
 Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible 
 all the time—no more fiddling in Terminal. 
 All you need to do is open your Home Folder in its own window, choose View  
 Show View Options, and select the Show Library Folder checkbox.
 
 I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion  Lion do; 
 so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be 
 re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much 
 quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the 
 OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 30/10/2013, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 Yes, the Terminal command will make the User Library permanently visible 
 (until the next update 9.0.1 if Mavericks does the same as previous OS X).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 30 Oct 2013, at 6:36 am, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
  It appears that after using Terminal to find ~/Library, it now stays 
 permanently in the User, or Home, folder.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:


Having exposed the ~/Library folder, simply drag it to the Finder Window's 
sidebar or Toolbar. You'll never lose it again.

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Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder

[Severin Crisp]

That is a real help, Ronni.   Terminal is interminable for non-regular Terminal 
users!   But why hide the Library in the first place?   No one in their right 
mind is going to seriously monkey with it and I am sure it will require at 
least an administrator password like the Applications folder to pull anything 
out of it.  
Maybe I am living in an older world dream but I find all this security stuff a 
real pain - like the rigmarole to make the IOS7.0.3 update tick after 
installing it earlier today.  
What has happened to the limit on mail retained in IOS7 Mail?   Used to be 50 
but I currently have 318 showing for two users and counting!   Can not find 
where to change it.  
Enjoy this glorious, sunny, late spring day everyone, soon out tongues will be 
hanging out when summer finally bites.
Severin Crisp


On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Mavericks adoptees,
 
 Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as Lion 
 and Mountain Lion do. 
 You can open it easily enough by holding down Option while choosing Library 
 from the Finder’s Go menu, or you can use Terminal.app and type the command  
 chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit Enter and your User 
 Library shows in Finder.
 
 Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible 
 all the time—no more fiddling in Terminal. 
 All you need to do is open your Home Folder in its own window, choose View  
 Show View Options, and select the Show Library Folder checkbox.
 
 I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion  Lion do; 
 so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be 
 re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much 
 quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the 
 OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
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Re: Mavericks - Mail in Mavericks Changes the Gmail Equation

[Paul Willemse]

Hi Ronni,

Do you now if these problems apply to Gmail POP accounts as well? I had some 
problems a long time ago with Gmail IMAP access and reverting to POP access 
cured it so I never bothered with IMAP again.

BTW, I have not yet updated to Mavericks.

Regards,

Paul



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 Hello people who use Gmail and are thinking of upgrading to Mavericks,
 
  Mail in Mavericks Changes the Gmail Equation - and I urge you to read it 
 before upgrading if you use Mail and Gmail. The short version is that Mail 
 has changed the way it treats Gmail accounts, such that you'll have all kinds 
 of pain if you previously disabled Gmail's All Mail label for IMAP clients 
 (which was until now the only way to avoid endless duplicate messages and 
 performance problems). 
 But if you turn that option on, other things break! And, Mail has other 
 issues too that may make you want to switch away from Gmail, switch to a 
 different email client, or postpone upgrading to Mavericks.
 
 http://tidbits.com/article/14219
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Mavericks - Mail in Mavericks Changes the Gmail Equation

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Paul,

First: If you have to rely on Gmail, my suggestion is don't upgrade to 
Mavericks just yet... wait until OS X 10.9.1 which should be available in the 
next few weeks... And hopefully Apple will fix these issues.

I take it you have read the TidBITS article I linked to in my first email.

This extract below is taken from Macworld, I don't have the link handy sorry 
but a google search will find it and more about the Gmail issues.

Gmail issues
Not all of the changes to Mail in Mavericks are entirely positive, particularly 
if one or more of your email accounts is a Gmail account. Mail and Gmail have 
never played particularly well together, in large part because Mail treats 
Gmail as an IMAP account, and the way Gmail implements IMAP is pretty poor. But 
in Mavericks, the situation is quite a bit worse.

The gist of the situation is that because of changes in how Mail handles Gmail 
accounts, you may find that the first time you launch Mail under Mavericks, 
Mail re-downloads all your Gmail messages, which could take a very, very long 
time if you have a lot of archived email. In addition, sometimes Mail simply 
doesn’t show messages that the Gmail website and other email apps (such as Mail 
on your iOS device) do show. And if you use AppleScripts to process email 
messages in Mail, there’s a good chance those scripts won’t work on your Gmail 
accounts in Mavericks.

Joe in the TidBITS article explains a number of other issues relating to Mail’s 
Gmail changes, and provides some suggestions for dealing with Gmail accounts. 

There is conversations going on here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-1595159.html

Cheers,

Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 24 Oct 2013, at 2:03 pm, Paul Willemse p...@thelink.to wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Do you now if these problems apply to Gmail POP accounts as well? I had some 
 problems a long time ago with Gmail IMAP access and reverting to POP access 
 cured it so I never bothered with IMAP again.
 
 BTW, I have not yet updated to Mavericks.
 
 Regards,
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 On 24 Oct, 2013, at 06:15 :18, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hello people who use Gmail and are thinking of upgrading to Mavericks,
 
 Mail in Mavericks Changes the Gmail Equation - and I urge you to read it 
 before upgrading if you use Mail and Gmail. The short version is that Mail 
 has changed the way it treats Gmail accounts, such that you'll have all 
 kinds of pain if you previously disabled Gmail's All Mail label for IMAP 
 clients (which was until now the only way to avoid endless duplicate 
 messages and performance problems). 
 But if you turn that option on, other things break! And, Mail has other 
 issues too that may make you want to switch away from Gmail, switch to a 
 different email client, or postpone upgrading to Mavericks.
 
 http://tidbits.com/article/14219
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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