[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

And who will do all this tedious work? Cheers, Peter From: g...@tiscali.it [mailto:g...@tiscali.it] Sent: 01 May 2022 20:01 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Open proxies and IP blocking Another somewhat obvious solution: instead, or before, of blocking, make the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

In what way is "diverse people" offensive, and to whom? Cheers, Peter. -Original Message- From: H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org] Sent: 04 May 2022 16:37 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Cc: H4CUSEG Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 20

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

How do you propose that relevant competencies be recognized, defined, or assessed? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org] Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 15:52 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Cc: H4CUSEG Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

r=0 Sent with ProtonMail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Friday, May 6th, 2022 at 7:25 AM, Peter Southwood wrote: > In what way is "diverse people" offensive, and to whom? Cheers, Peter. > > -Original Message- > From: H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l [ma

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

+1 P From: Samuel Klein [mailto:meta...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 May 2022 22:44 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Simplifying governance processes Dear Board (and all), The growing complexity of governance efforts is defeating us. Process creep

[Wikimedia-l] Re: To make apodictic articles

Which may never happen. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: suvratjai...@gmail.com [mailto:suvratjai...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 May 2022 06:30 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] To make apodictic articles We have to complete all stub articles in wikipedia.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Fact-checking Raju Narisetti in the Indian Express

This seems a reasonable request. Cheers, Peter From: Andreas Kolbe [mailto:jayen...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 June 2022 15:13 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Fact-checking Raju Narisetti in the Indian Express Dear all, Last weekend, an interview with Raju Narisetti, title

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Fact-checking Raju Narisetti in the Indian Express

Talk:Fundraising#Raju_Narisetti_interview:_most_of_the_money_is_flowing_into_the_Global_South> . Thank you, Megan On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 6:52 PM Peter Southwood wrote: This seems a reasonable request. Cheers, Peter From: Andreas Kolbe [mailto:jayen...@gmail.com] Sent:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Research Showcase June 15

Interesting research. Maybe I just missed it, but I didn’t notice any discussion of relation of availability of reliable sources to coverage in different languages. In English Wikipedia we are not allowed to write about topics which are not covered by suitable sources, but there may also be more

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Research Showcase June 15

bulk of the editors speak also a major language which is used like lingua franca (like Russian for the Chuvash Wikipedia, or perhaps Spanish for the Quechua Wikipedia). This makes the problem less acute. Best Yaroslav On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 8:44 PM Peter Southwood wrote: Interesting

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

Yes, I find it more difficult to write for Simple English, because it (Simple English) is not my first language and I do not think in it, and the words I would normally use for the topics I prefer are not invented there and have to be worked around, so it is translation a lot of the time. There is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

I took a look at Vikidia, thought I could do something for them, signed up with an account, read what I could find of the guidance, and created an article on Underwater diving, following the rules as I understood them, using properly attributed CC-by-sa content from Simple English Wikipedia as a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF themselves do not own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who created the text. They can take this up with Google, the WMF cannot. If you are one of those contributors you can approach Google as misusing your copyright.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license? On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 10:18, Peter Southwood wrote: > If I understand the CC-by-sa licence correctly, Wikipedia and WMF themselves do not > own the copyright, it is owned by the contributors who created the text. Th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

I, too, would appreciate such enlightenment, Cheers, Peter From: Andreas Kolbe [mailto:jayen...@gmail.com] Sent: 16 September 2022 20:48 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback! Dear Ivan, I am very sor

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!

Not sure how that would work. P From: Gregory Varnum [mailto:gregory.var...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 October 2022 22:30 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! The Meta-Wiki based tech newsletter is available in a fair number of languages. Perhaps a Meta

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!

+1 There will always be mails that some people will not be interested in. Often most of them. This does not mean that they are not relevant to the list. We can delete them without reading them if they are not relevant to us. Cheers, Peter From: Nathan [mailto:nawr...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 O

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

Part of the problem may be that the vocabulary is lacking. It is very difficult to explain a concept in one language when you know the words only in another language, and it would be considered original research by some Wikipedias to make up words for the job. I have struggled with translations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2018-03-04 15:22 GMT+02:00 Peter Southwood : > Part of the problem may be that the vocabulary is lacking. It is very > difficult to explain a concept in one language when you know the words &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

gt; languages > > endangered at various levels. > > > > On a more practical and less ideological note, I should note that > > even though I didn't run the numbers, I strongly suspect that > > translating > 10,000 > > articles to 100 languages is considera

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

Fair comment Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W Sent: 11 March 2018 06:56 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ? Hi Zubin, I'd like to respond to this i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CCE search & job description

Attached where? Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Julie Brown Sent: 30 March 2018 23:43 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Staff All Subject: [Wikimedia-l] CCE search & job description Hi all, We are pleased to ann

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

Why would we want to? How would it further the aims of the movement? How much would it cost? Who would run it? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Leinonen Teemu Sent: 09 April 2018 09:46 To: Wikimedia Mailing L

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

, at 11.28, Peter Southwood mailto:peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>> wrote: Why would we want to? Because we want to "become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge”. How would it further the aims of the movement? Knowledge is dynamic. Today social media services are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

That looks somewhat misleading. Who is making the claim? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Cole Sent: 15 April 2018 14:56 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclope

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

Anyone with internet can edit it, but not necessarily for long if they do it badly, and it is not easy to do it well. Some of the facts are checked some of the time by some of the people, some of whom are competent to do so. "The fact-checked encyclopedia " is not entirely wrong. Misleading thou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

Both slogans/claims are not entirely wrong, but also both are highly misleading, and should not be used. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Cole Sent: 15 April 2018 16:54 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subj

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

Looks good to me. Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Amir E. Aharoni Sent: 15 April 2018 17:35 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia I'd just stick to "The Free Encyclopedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia

I would like to try that but could not work out what to do from the link Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Salsman Sent: 15 April 2018 18:11 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

I think you ask good questions, but some answers are not easy to find. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Amir E. Aharoni Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 8:03 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] G

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Notability and verifiability are important. They allow us to produce reasonably reliable work. Moving away from those constraints opens the doors to extremely unreliable material. If Wikipedia is to remain open to anyone to edit, there do not appear to be any robust alternatives. Other projects

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

There are many things that can be addressed individually and as a movement > or collective, if we believe the conclusions are valid, which I personally > do, since they are supported with data and not on our personal impressions. > > > Cheers! > > El jue., may. 10, 2018

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

that case too if we are ready to do that leap of faith, the same way we did at the beginning of Wikipedia when we opened editing to anybody. JP On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:05 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > One Jar'Edo Wens hoax is enough, and that last

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

r > whatever else have you types of information. If our references are flawed, > the solution lies in getting them to correct what they're doing, not > "correcting" for any perceived bias by editors. We reflect sources, we do > not second-guess, dispute, or correct them. &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

by editors. We reflect sources, we do > not second-guess, dispute, or correct them. > > Todd > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Peter Southwood < > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > > When Wikipedia was new and unknown there were not so many people w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

an we are going to remove the material about Native Americans migrating through Beringia but that, if a tribe's tradition is that it was always in the Americas, that should be included in its article. Probably not enough to satisfy everyone... Fred - Original Message ----- From: Peter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

r > > whatever else have you types of information. If our references are > flawed, > > the solution lies in getting them to correct what they're doing, not > > "correcting" for any perceived bias by editors. We reflect sources, we do > > not second-guess, disp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment: Updates

This does not seem unreasonable. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 4:47 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment: Updates

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Airtasker adds for articles

In what way are they proposing to violate WMF terms and conditions? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gnangarra Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:29 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Airtasker

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

Enwp may also be the most resistant project to having people paid to do admin work. Has the concept ever been discussed on enwp? If so, when and where, and what was the consensus if any? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update #4: Upcoming call for participation in Working Groups

Roles and responsibilities may be a better term, It has a meaning that is more likely to be understood than "power dynamics", which frankly sounds more like rocket science than what people in a group are expected to do. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Donors

Would this be for US only or worldwide? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Salsman Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 10:11 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Dono

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

That feels about right for most of the time. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Darnell Sent: 25 July 2018 09:29 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Worki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource Handbook

It is CC-by-sa. Of course you can. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of mathieu lovato stumpf guntz Sent: 14 September 2018 10:25 To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Ananth Subray; wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org Sub

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

Could you reformat to make this more legible? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michal Buczynski Sent: 27 September 2018 14:07 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] when is the last time a one-line fundraising banner was A/B tested

It is a bit of a wall of text, but at first reading the message is less offensive than many previous versions. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Salsman Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 12:45 PM To: Wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] when is the last time a one-line fundraising banner was A/B tested

razil. And then a few weeks later there was a discussion about how donations are so much smaller in the developing world. Coincidence? I don't think so. On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:11 AM Peter Southwood wrote: > > It is a bit of a wall of text, but at first reading the message is less

Re: [Wikimedia-l] when is the last time a one-line fundraising banner was A/B tested

; (kind of a subscription). On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:28 AM Peter Southwood wrote: > > I thought this specific message was targeting North Americans for whom $3 is > a realistic price. If the message is for worldwide use I would also find it > offensive in its US centric price cl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monthly skill share idea

I like the idea. Once you have worked out how to do it efficiently, maybe the WMF can send out trainers to places where the skills are thin on the ground. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Lubbock Sent:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monthly skill share idea

Sent: 16 October 2018 07:49 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monthly skill share idea Le 15/10/2018 à 13:36, Peter Southwood a écrit : > I like the idea. Once you have worked out how to do it efficiently, maybe the > WMF can send out trainers to places where the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile fundraising ads

It is slightly less repellent than some I have seen in the past, but in general I concur. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of MZMcBride Sent: 11 December 2018 03:20 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile fundraising ads

's still a pageview and a reader lost. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:17 AM Peter Southwood wrote: > > It is slightly less repellent than some I have seen in the past, but in > general I concur. > Cheers, > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dutch Mailing list

Hi Sian, Which projects are you interested in? There are several projects, in many languages. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sean Sent: 14 December 2018 16:33 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

he primary target in mobile. This would not be needed for all articles. Cheers, Peter Southwood -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yaroslav Blanter Sent: 29 December 2018 23:34 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Findability should reflect editability and it doesn't. On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:18 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Hi Yaroslav, > Several recent developments relate to this situation which I think you > have described reasonably well. > Short d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

address these "line items" as "findable editing snippets" in the wikiverse, possibly curatable by voice activation, reversing the way we can sometimes get them read to us by Siri/Lexa. On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 1:48 PM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

omething obvious and self-explanatory in the title area. Cheers, Peter Southwood -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anders Wennersten Sent: 30 December 2018 14:50 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

hlist and maintain (if one creates them), easier to de-orphanize articles, and easier to curate pieces of large wikipages where it's hard to check the relevant used references. On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 9:14 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Does the tech

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

number of incoming links that I also try to keep track of. Aside from my own personal "article pipeline", I also spend time de-orphanizing and interlinking such nuggets in existing articles and I would love to be able to watch them all in two-way linked stereo, but that is impossible today

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

kiverse, possibly curatable by voice activation, > reversing the way we can sometimes get them read to us by Siri/Lexa. > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 1:48 PM Peter Southwood < > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > > Jane, > > I do not understand what pa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] blocking, unblocking, wikivoyage

Is this a general observation or is there some specific point I am missing here? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l Sent: 07 January 2019 19:54 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to educate participants of an edit-a-thon so it sticks?

Good idea, I will watch for good hints. Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Romaine Wiki Sent: 31 January 2019 16:20 To: Wikimedia Subject: [Wikimedia-l] How to educate participants of an edit-a-thon so it sticks?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

That would be a fair operational definition in our context, but it does not predict well for all instances. Cheers Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Amir E. Aharoni Sent: 22 February 2019 10:39 To: Wikimedia Mailing L

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

meeting with NGO representatives Hi Peter, Could you please give an example of the instances that it wouldn't predict well? Regards, Micru On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 10:44 Peter Southwood, wrote: > That would be a fair operational definition in our context, but it does > not predict well for al

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"

"When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout." Overreacting is a tradition at Wikipedia. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michel Vuijlsteke Sent: 03 March 2019 19:49 To: Wikimedia Mailing Li

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"

onsider that the very fact the conversation is taking place is positive, I think we would all have gained in freedom of speech. Good afternoon, Nattes à chat (1) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/world/europe/la-ligue-du-lol-sexual-harassment.html > Le 5 mars 2019 à 10:07, Peter Southwood a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"

ment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12115577 Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae Wikimedia LGBT+ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+ On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 07:26, Peter Southwood wrote: > > Natasha, > I seldom rush to be the first

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

We edit what we choose to edit. Usually the is things we are interested in and know something about. 2 billion people can go search for something I have no interest in and it will not move me to edit that topic. However, if a fairly substantial number of people look for something I am interested

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

Vito, I do not agree with you, but that may be because we edit differently. I write about what I am interested in, and know enough about to be reasonably efficient. There is enough of it to keep me busy indefinitely. I read the topics that interest me and I don't know enough about to write. I c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

to learn how many people have no idea on what they could/should edit, and are happy to take suggestions. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 6:31 PM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Vito, > I do not agree with you, but that may be because we edit differentl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

David, Would your work be influenced by an analysis of the academic biographies which are most searched for that are not on Wikipedia yet? (assuming that such an targeted analysis was available) Cheers, Peter PS. An analysis that included a check of whether the topic was likely to be notable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A BIG congratulations to the WikiVoyage community.

Onwards and upwards! Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Heilman Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 7:45 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] A BIG congratulations to the WikiVoyage community. B

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

The members of the chapters are volunteers, so free to simply walk away any time they choose. Shove too hard and you have no chapter. Who wins? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Pryor-Summers Sent: Su

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Abandoning a project and shutting it down sends a message to all volunteers that their work could be similarly abandoned and lost one day. Is that a message we want to broadcast? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Yeah, Right. P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Paulo Santos Perneta Sent: 16 April 2019 20:38 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

Good arguments, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of FT2 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 4:54 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals I agree with both views

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

ends out a message, to the world at large. Is that a message you want to broadcast? JPS On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 3:32 PM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Abandoning a project and shutting it down sends a message to all > volunteers that their work could be simila

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

rting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals] On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:31, Peter Southwood wrote: > Abandoning a project and shutting it down sends a message to all volunteers > that their work could be similarly abandoned and lost one day. For some value of "lost&qu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Perception is in the eye of the beholder, Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Pryor-Summers Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 6:20 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinew

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia elects 10 sysops at a time

You appear to have 66 sysops on sv:? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Wikipedia), how well to you think this system would scale up for an order or two of magnitude more? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

There are many subjects of images that can be objectively assessed, so this comparison is not very accurate. In many cases the metadata provides verifiable information too. Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jenni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive

I too would like to know if there are any answers to this question, and while there may be more direct ways to get an answer, I agree that the answer should be shared here. Cheers, Peter Southwood -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so people did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a bad idea. No communications, now the blame is being spread without analysing the problem and proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation really. Che

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

This looks like a project at risk of collapsing under its own weight. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yann Forget Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 6:48 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

avoid the problem. It might even be advisable to state this policy clearly in the upload wizard. When people have been reasonably warned, they are less likely to be offended. Cheers, Peter Southwood -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

uploading to Commons. From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Peter Southwood Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 7:59 PM To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach It seems to be a situation where there were no clear ins

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

Please read my post again, Cheers P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 9:29 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach In

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

And there is nobody who "must" improve commons help pages as they are all volunteers, so if someone wants better help pages, they can have a go at fixing them. Do be careful about how you go about it, as it must reflect project consensus. Get agreement on the talk page first for any substantial

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

Fair comments. It would be a useful allocation of the donors' money Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yann Forget Sent: 12 May 2019 13:29 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

Are they really "leaders of the movement"? P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles Sent: 15 May 2019 08:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

I don’t think that is the point at all. For justice to be accepted as justice, it must be comprehensible. The process was badly flawed, and instead of sending a message that T&S was looking after our trust and safety, it sent a message that anyone could be blocked without reference to our inter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] en.wp office yearlock block

I would guess that "expertise" is one of them. Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles Sent: 12 June 2019 08:58 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] en.wp office yearlock block G

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

, but engaging in this discussion has its consequences, and one of them is to be questioned. Cheers, Peter Southwood -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles Sent: 12 June 2019 09:06 To: Wikimedia Mailing List

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

our project and we shouldn't be trying to exclude people from our community. Wikipedia belongs to everyone. On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 9:53 AM Peter Southwood wrote: > > Thrapostibongles, > I am not familiar with your name on enwiki, so I looked you up, and find that > you have a gr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

Not that Peter Southwood. Are you a different Thrapostibongles? I couldn’t find one. Cheers, Peter Southwood. -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 4:22 PM To: Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

that Wikipedia belongs to "us". You are mistaken. In so far as it belongs to anyone, it belongs to the Foundation. Thrapostibongles On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 3:35 PM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > "We" are a subset of everyone. If Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

Is there evidence that this is the reason for the block? If so where is it stated? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Robert Fernandez Sent: 13 June 2019 18:14 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

ngles Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 8:44 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block Peter On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 6:45 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Check your facts. > P > Well, the Wikipedia trademar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

This seems fair comment and a useful proposal. I would support the concept of such independent surveys, and them being funded by the foundation. I see a need. Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bill Takatoshi Sent:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Health, Roles & Responsibilities

" Previously a strategic direction has been agreed." Not by that many. It is so vague that it can be interpreted to mean whatever the WMF want it to mean and used as a justification for a wide range of policies and actions that were not obviously specifically discussed. This was mentioned at the

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