is for and why it
is deemed necessary for the focus to move to the main body content first.
As a general principle, meeting users' expectations is important for a good
user experience. As Steve Krug said, "don't make me think".
Steve
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purists
would argue that it is merely replicating the function of the Home key. Of
course tablets and mobile phones don't have a Home key, which sort of
undermines that argument.
Steve
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'skip' links are not likely to be using these
browsers.
I believe that Opera has the native ability to jump to headings, so that would
provide a very similar capability, especially if you add hidden headings for
the navigation. I don't believe any other browsers have any such fea
" You wouldn't put up with a web page that forced you to read a short message
and hit the delete key before seeing the rest of the page."
That's exactly what the new European cookie law is going to force you to do.
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dialog,
but none of those purposes apply in this case.
An heading is all that is required, as others have previously said.
Steve
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Subject: Re: [WSG] list heading - best practice?
On 6 March 2012 09:20, Dan Freeman wrote:
> How about in HTML5?
hi again,
maybe i missed something but whats the issue with using heading in a list?
regards
stevef
On 5 March 2012 01:51, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> Hi, agree with Russ here,
>
> for example does
>
>
> change the semantics? I think not, use of aria-labelledby is another way
&
he elements.
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> Does this make sense?
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oney could fund a continuous program of
remedial work that would benefit all user groups rather than the fairly narrow
range of user groups that benefit from ReadSpeaker.
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services (and they are not
cheap) there are much better ways you can spend the money that will benefit
more people.
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Behalf Of James O'Neill
Sent: 21 February 2012 18:34
To
If you are asking whether there needs to be a link from the error message to
the corresponding form control, the answer is no.
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Director
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Sent: Mon 18/07/2011 02:45
To: wsg
options at a glance and
only one click is necessary instead of two.
Steve Green
Director
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er comment regarding the use of Vision Australia's
tools if you have the skills to use them.
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times longer than you could do the task using a desktop browser. Even typing
URLs was taking a couple of minutes (they typically contained 50 characters or
so), so we had to use a URL shortening service to speed that up.
Good luck and let us know if you find a better service.
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s and broader goals (such as 'improving the web' or 'forcing
users to upgrade their browsers') and base it on what's most appropriate
for your client.
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any value in it.
Steve
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Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x
I hear what you are saying Steve, but isn't
and
interesting, not because they provide better value for their clients.
Steve
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Hi Steve
Can you give some links to research that back up this statement? As far
as I know, the screen readers will accept the new tags when you are
using something othe
x27;s different if you're building websites that will be around
for years.
Steve
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Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML
o indicate that they do. So what
exactly is the benefit?
Steve
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Sent: Tue 25/01/2011 04:29
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Subject: RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x
> At the moment, HTML5 doesn
hat will change (in years rather than months).
Steve
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On Behalf Of grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au
Sent: 24 January 2011 22:45
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Subject: [WSG] HTML5 v. HT
years before ARIA
provides any real benefit. Besides, it was difficult enough to get the
developers to make the website WCAG-compliant, never mind introducing new
concepts they don't understand.
Steve
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page behind it. All you
need to do is Shift+Tab to tab backwards into the lightbox.
Alternatively, if you press the tab key enough times the focus will
eventually return to the lightbox.
Steve
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On Behalf Of tee
Sent: 22 J
ut it didn't get implemented.
Steve
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On Behalf Of tee
Sent: 21 January 2011 04:21
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes
On Jan 20, 201
only time the focus is not correctly controlled is when the
'Recommend to a friend' or 'Email results' forms are submitted. In these
cases the focus returns to the top of the page. The developers tell us
it's because they can't control the focus after an HTTP request.
The element is the correct element to use in the case of site navigation
links. You are correct about menu which when implemented will be like a desktop
app menu.
The nav element is not generally accessibility supported in browsers yet,
which means it's semantics are not conveyed, but you ca
I'm with Patrick on this one. The , and elements
provide all the semantic structure you need. Anything else is noise.
Steve Green
Test Partners Ltd
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It's just an animated GIF.
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner
Hello,
Does anyone know how Google did their 'X-
content providers address this by using fixed font sizes,
which just introduces a different problem.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
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be aware that those who offer a testing service (such as the
three I mentioned above) tend not to be cooperative.
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g courses for the public sector,
and they make extensive use of image maps. In most cases, clicking the
link causes new content to be displayed on the current page rather than
loading a new page. We keep telling them to implement the feature
differently but they persist despite all th
don't have an issue of course, my view was purely
>user experience.
On 8 Jun 2010, at 02:38, Ben Buchanan wrote:
>
>
> On 7 June 2010 14:58, Steve Gibbings wrote:
> I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option
> selected, there is no un
On 08/06/2010, at 11:38 AM, Ben Buchanan wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 7 June 2010 14:58, Steve Gibbings wrote:
>> I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option
>> selected, there is no undefined selection. This makes sense when you
&g
don't have an issue of course, my view was purely
>user experience.
Regards,
Steve
On 8 Jun 2010, at 02:38, Ben Buchanan wrote:
>
>
> On 7 June 2010 14:58, Steve Gibbings wrote:
> I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option
> selec
I have a problem with that. Radio button sets should always have an option
selected, there is no undefined selection. This makes sense when you remember
where the radio button metaphor came from. However seems that doesn't get
universally implemented.
On 7 Jun 2010, at 02:25, Ben Buchanan
Please people set your email auto responses to not respond to email groups.
You should be able to add addresses to ignore.
Thanks.
On 5 Jun 2010, at 00:11, spodl...@bayside.vic.gov.au wrote:
> I will be out of the office starting 05/06/2010 and will not return until
> 08/06/2010.
>
> I will
Correction I meant "would NOT expect any material differences..."
You're very welcome Peter.
Steve Gibbings
Web designer & Developer
www.stevegibbingsdesign.co.uk
On 11/04/2010 10:46, Peter Mount wrote:
Thanks for that
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Sent: 02 November 2009 01:35
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Complex data tables, accessibility and XHTML Basic 1.1
Steve Green wrote:
> I am tempted to say t
would benefit from
this either.
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Sent: 02 November 2009 00:19
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...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
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Sent: 29 October 2009 00:19
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links
Thanks for that Steve - but I was trying answer the question:
"Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav' procedure
which is invis
] skip links
spot the typo
regards
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Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:34 AM
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Steve
One way to do it is make a
I always point people to http://blackwidows.co.uk/. The links are accessible
to screen readers and are displayed when they have focus so they are
accessible to sighted users who use keyboard navigation.
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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of
It may seem strange, but image maps are more accessible to screen reader
users than to almost any other user group. They are a significant barrier to
some user groups even when correctly coded, so you should provide the
information in an alternative, accessible manner.
For your class exercise you
Hi everyone.
I was just looking at a page on the National Library of Australia web site
(http://www.nla.gov.au/services/issnabout.html) and noticed the font
rendering was strange in my browser (Firefox 3.5.3). When I looked at the
markup to try and understand why, I found that the site seem to be
nuous maintenance as governments switch at varying speeds from
WCAG 1.0 to 2.0. This transition may take even longer in cases such as the
US who have created their own accessibility requirements based on (but not
the same as) the WCAG.
Why do you want to know this information?
Steve
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Fro
associated in two ways (the 'for' and 'id' attributes and the fact that they
are enclosed in the element.
JAWS does associate the text label and form control if the element is
not present but that limits your styling options. I have no idea why JAWS
behaves this way.
Steve Gr
outside of the form tag?
Thanks
Steve Haffenden
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>From the PayPal site at
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=developer/
e_howto_html_Appx_websitestandard_htmlvariables#id08A6HH0D0TA
no_shipping is an optional attribute, which deals with shipping addresses.
Allowable values are:
0 - prompt for an address, but do no
The site appears to have been generated from a package or template. I'm
guessing that this was MySource Matrix, but I don't see any info on PayPal
integration on their site. Do you have the original application or
documentation? If so, you might contact them or PayPal.
As this is for no_shippin
: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:23 PM
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Subject: RE: [WSG] fonts problems
With the exception of the missing graphics, everything looks OK to me in IE8.
Like Matijs, I’m not
should be on your computer, unless they have removed them in Vista.
Anybody using Vista that can verify this?
There is also an invalid color code in the a:visited section, line 21. Should
be six characters, not five.
Hope this helps
From: Steve Eagleson [mailto:zen27
With the exception of the missing graphics, everything looks OK to me in IE8.
Like Matijs, I’m not sure what “insert f” means. Are you trying to edit your
style sheet?
Oh wait, I found a problem. You forgot to fold the eggs back in to your
vegetable fried rice
From: li...@webst
http://foorider.blogspot.com/2007/09/css-ie7-float-italic-background.html
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html
Steve
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To
c etc.
Techniques such as sIFR or FLIR address some of these issues but none of
them address all the issues, so every technique will be inaccessible to some
people.
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el
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On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Steve Green wrote:
It's not just replicating browser function
It's not just replicating browser functionality - it's a call to action. As
such I think it's perfectly reasonable.
Steve
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t all, regardless of what WCAG
2.0 may or may not say.
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I think
get the best of both worlds.
have fun
Steve
On 5 Mar 2009, at 18:32, Naveen Bhaskar wrote:
Hi,
I used to work in a windows system and now I am working in a macbook
pro. how can I test my webpages for IE. Is there any IE installers
available for mac?
Also pls let me know what are the soft
It's something in your CSS. If you disable the CSS the links work
fine. Not sure what code is causing it, but I'll try to look further.
Steve Wilkison
Digital Vision Media
www.digitalvisionmedia.com
On Feb 6, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Kristine Cummins wrote:
Hi all:
I’m having a st
I don't allow QuickTime to be installed on any of our machines either. Is
there a reason why you can't use a file format that has a larger installed
user base? Most non-Mac users won't have QuickTime.
Steve
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ting requirements and
know when it is safe to ignore them completely.
Steve
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] credibility of accessibility v
I will be out of the office starting 24/12/2008 and will not return until
12/01/2009.
During that time urgent web issues can be sent to Mitchell Essex up to an
including the 2nd January and to Kate Needham from the 3rd to the 9th.
If all else fails, I can be contacted on my mobile on 0408 406 9
to operate the sliders.
However, if the window has a scrollbar, both the slider and the scrollbar
move at the same time in both browsers. If the Ctrl key is used in addition
to the arrow key, only the slider moves.
Steve
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regards to the unobtrusive javascript comments: yes, it's best practice
to use a library like jQuery or Prototype, but for simple one-use things, or
starting to learn JavaScript, its not a bad idea to write it out by hand.
Steve
2008/12/9 Brett Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi Steve,
Hi Brett,
Your problem here would be around the usage of the identifier variable. What
if another method changed what element the identifier pointed at?
In this case, you'd be better off redeclaring the getElement selector to
patch this security risk.
Steve
2008/12/9 Brett Patterson &l
Stuart's point is that blinking content violates checkpoint 7.2 of the W3C
Web Content Accessibility Guidelines:
"Until user agents allow users to control blinking, avoid causing content to
blink (i.e., change presentation at a regular rate, such as turning on and
off)"
Steve
I would be grateful if any JavaScript (specifically jQuery) experts could
contact me off-list as I have a client who needs some remedial work done
(for which they will pay). Also are there any more suitable places I could
post this request?
Steve
with real text. We're not
starting with a clean sheet, so a jump to a pure semantic website just isn't
going to happen in one step (at least not in the timescale they are looking
for).
Steve
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configured to their needs and cannot be altered e.g. in an Internet cafe or
a locked-down machine in someone else's office. Your image replacement
technique does not cater for these situations unless you also add a style
switcher, but that appears to be taboo in this list.
Steve
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Yes it does. It allows the creation of a text-only version for people who
need one but don't have a suitable user agent on the machine that they
currently have access to.
Steve
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Sen
Agreed. If you've got a user agent that does what you need, Betsie doesn't
really add anything. If you don't have access to your own machine (and none
of us do all of the time) then it does perform a useful function for some
people.
Steve
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From: [
://www.bbc.co.uk/education/betsie/tech.html
You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't
do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes.
Steve
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gine. If a suitable version of IE was already
installed it used that, otherwise it installed a newer version.
It would be interesting to see if the same problems occur when she accesses
the website using Internet Explorer.
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manner as it in
JAWS 5.0."
Does anyone have any thoughts on this matter or know of any software that
does support fieldsets and legends!
Thanks
Clare
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Can you explain what problem you are trying to solve? You can't change what
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a
lowering of standards at the top end unless developers go beyond what WCAG
2.0 requires (and what's the chance of that?).
Does anyone think that WCAG 2.0 will improve the user experience? Or do you
take my view that it only benefits developers, and that the user experience
will be worse in
w the software is used, but how screen reader users create a
mental model of web pages and the strategies they use for navigating within
them. Without that knowledge there is little value in doing the testing
yourself.
Steve Green
quired to accurately, and
unambiguously translate the symbolic representation of the equation into
English.
Best regards
Steve Baty
2008/9/22 Breton Slivka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Might I suggest quite simply, that in the alt attribute, you write in
> english, basically what you w
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er at all means that they are entirely excluded from the beta
phase, so it seems they will not be able to provide feedback until it goes
gold, if it ever does. For an organisation with Google's resources this is
totally unacceptable.
Steve
Yes, this is the case. There has been a lot of talk about this in GAWDS, and
Steve Faulkner has written about it at
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=92.
Basically it looks like there's no MSAA support. If they don't address this,
many large organisations (at least in the UK) will
Thanks Steve for the clarification.
OK, in the risk of showing more ignorant, I still have question. My
understanding on WCAG guidelines, are the fundamental principle of DDA,
Section 508 and similar law in other countries correct? When a website is to
be DDA or Section 508 compliant, for lack
t' actually has no meaning except in its application to
a single person.
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e that a site meets the requirements of the DDA. The
latter is concerned with 'actual outcomes' i.e. can people with disabilities
access the site.
It is reasonable to include Section 508 because it is not a subset of WCAG
AAA. It is substantially bas
. Likewise the installer
installs the same Flash version onto every browser on every partition so you
can't have different Flash versions on the same machine. There may be a way
to hack this but I can't figure it out.
Steve
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te is AAA-compliant (if such a thing were possible); a
person can still bring an action if the website was not accessible to them
(although there is no guarantee they will win). Only a court can decide if
the website met the law or not.
Steve
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accessibility tester / consultant. This is a
mid-level to senior position based on London and I am offering a substantial
finders fee for anyone who can introduce a candidate that we recruit. Full
details are available on request.
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Labscape
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s tend to design for a minimum screen
resolution of 1024x768 while there are still a significant number of people
still using lower resolutions.
Steve
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badly at large text sizes (there are limits to what is
achievable even when a site is designed well).
Steve
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opers and testers still need them for testing. We download
and store all the English versions but it's not practical to save all the
localised versions too.
Steve
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Sent: 23 June 2008 11:
Thank you Jessica. Your clarification is correct :)
2008/6/6 Jessica Enders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I agree with most of the comments in response to this query but thought I
> would clarify one part of what Steve said, namely that: "breadcrumbs ...
> represent the cont
don't hurt, and they might help.
Regards
Steve
2008/6/6 libwebdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi folks,
>
> My organisation manages around 7000+ pages for 100s of departments,
> using a CMS. Mine is the only department outside the CMS, just because
> we can.
>
> We have
ource, and some did work that way but I
don't know any that do now.
Most users are unaware of how pages are marked up so I don't think that they
would have a preference for lists, vertical bars or anything else. During
user testing we encounter both, and have not observed problems w
possible to
select non-contiguous options. As Mike said, checkboxes are the way to go.
Steve
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