Re: [zones-discuss] Java out of memory error in a zone

2008-12-08 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Le 7 déc. 08 à 18:47, Nicolas Dorfsman a écrit : > > Le 7 déc. 08 à 18:26, Ian Matchett a écrit : > >> Thanks >> >> However will prstat -Z tell me much in the zone? > > Good question. > I need to check. Well. A sort of... prstat will give you SWAP and RSS used by YOUR zone. prtconf would give

Re: [zones-discuss] [pkg-discuss] problem creating zones in opensolaris - IPS brand

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
ramanujan oops wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> What's the output of "pkg version" ? > > > >> Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.11 snv_86 January 2008 >> # bash >> bash-3.2# pkg version >> d974bb176266 >> bash-3.2# > > > I understand tha

[zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Attached is a proposal for native-brand zone p2v that I am planning to submit for ARC review soon. I'd like to hear any comments about this. Thanks, Jerry --- SUMMARY: This fast-track enhances the Solaris Zones [1] subsystem to address an existing RFE [2] requesting a "physical to vi

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Jerry Jelinek writes: > 1) SMF services that are not usable within a zone should be deleted or > disabled as necessary (for S8 and S9 we dealt with rc scripts > instead). > 2) Network configuration must be adjusted depending on if the zone is > shared-stack or exclusive.

Re: [zones-discuss] Update on attach and upgrades

2008-12-08 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Le 6 nov. 08 à 20:30, Steve Lawrence a écrit : On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:20:43AM -0500, Dr. Hung-Sheng Tsao (LaoTsao) wrote: anyone know when the brandz for s10 will be out? e.g. running s10 with opensolaris zone? No target has been set for this. We cannot reasonably manage such a projec

Re: [zones-discuss] Update on attach and upgrades

2008-12-08 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Nicolas Dorfsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-12-08 16:46]: > > Le 6 nov. 08 à 20:30, Steve Lawrence a écrit : > >> On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:20:43AM -0500, Dr. Hung-Sheng Tsao (LaoTsao) >> wrote: >>> >>> anyone know when the brandz for s10 will be out? >>> e.g. running s10 with opensolaris zone?

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
James, James Carlson wrote: > Jerry Jelinek writes: >> 1) SMF services that are not usable within a zone should be deleted or >> disabled as necessary (for S8 and S9 we dealt with rc scripts >> instead). >> 2) Network configuration must be adjusted depending on if the zone is >>

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Bill Walker
Tjere are some SMF services known to break when moving into a zone from a physical server. Things like sysevent, FMA-ish stuff, ldom manager, etc. (I don't have my notes in front of me, but I seem to remember around 4-5 from a SUNWall vanilla installation). Mostly stuff tied to the hardware

Re: [zones-discuss] Update on attach and upgrades

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Nicolas Dorfsman writes: > Enterprise version of OpenSolaris ? > > Could anybody explain what does it mean ? It doesn't exist yet, so it's unlikely that a complete answer is available ... at least until something's announced by Sun. My guess would be at least an OpenSolaris distribution includin

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Bill Walker wrote: > > Tjere are some SMF services known to break when moving into a zone from > a physical server. Things like sysevent, FMA-ish stuff, ldom manager, > etc. (I don't have my notes in front of me, but I seem to remember > around 4-5 from a SUNWall vanilla installation). Mostly

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jerry Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SUMMARY: > > This fast-track enhances the Solaris Zones [1] subsystem to address an > existing RFE [2] requesting a "physical to virtual" (or p2v) capability > for installing native-branded zones based on an exis

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Jerry Jelinek writes: > > Can a user predict what these automatic changes will be? After > > import, is there a log of the changes or "adjustments" made? > > I assume you really mean which SMF services will be off, since > the other changes are listed here in the case? Exactly. > We can descri

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Mike, Mike Gerdts wrote: >> The image modifications fall into the following areas: >> 1) SMF services that are not usable within a zone should be deleted or >>disabled as necessary (for S8 and S9 we dealt with rc scripts >> instead). > > This implies that the source system can be

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:14:26AM -0700, Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Yes, not everything that runs in the global zone works in a > non-global zone. NFS serving or non-global zones are the most obvious > examples. > > For SMF services, the services to be deleted are the the ones > delivered in SVr4 pk

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Nico, Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:14:26AM -0700, Jerry Jelinek wrote: >> Yes, not everything that runs in the global zone works in a >> non-global zone. NFS serving or non-global zones are the most obvious >> examples. >> >> For SMF services, the services to be deleted ar

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:37:48PM -0500, James Carlson wrote: > > I am not planning on making any automated changes to the privileges > > available > > to the zone. If this turns out to be an important issue, then we could > > look at that as a possible future enhancement. The problem I see is

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Jerry Jelinek writes: > Mike Gerdts wrote: > > This implies that the source system can be S8, S9, or S10. I don't > > see anywhere else in the proposal that explicitly states that S8 and > > S9 can be attached and upgraded, so I suspect I am reading my wishes > > into your words. > > That was not

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
James, James Carlson wrote: > Jerry Jelinek writes: >> Mike Gerdts wrote: >>> This implies that the source system can be S8, S9, or S10. I don't >>> see anywhere else in the proposal that explicitly states that S8 and >>> S9 can be attached and upgraded, so I suspect I am reading my wishes >>> in

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Nicolas Williams writes: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:37:48PM -0500, James Carlson wrote: > > I suppose it'd be possible to look through the SMF 'privileges' for > > the services that are still enabled, and then attempt to union those > > into the zone privileges ... but it's unclear if that's real

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Jerry Jelinek writes: > James Carlson wrote: > > "Update on attach" just means "apply saved patches, if any are > > needed," right? > > Not really. We see what pkgs are out of sync, either because of the > pkg version of because of patches applied to those pkgs, then we do > something similar to

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
James, James Carlson wrote: > Jerry Jelinek writes: >> James Carlson wrote: >>> "Update on attach" just means "apply saved patches, if any are >>> needed," right? >> Not really. We see what pkgs are out of sync, either because of the >> pkg version of because of patches applied to those pkgs, the

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:37 PM, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think answering that would answer the previous poster's question > about the difference between doing an upgrade before flar creation and > just importing a flar from S9: the former results in a native zone > using this

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Mike, Mike Gerdts wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:37 PM, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think answering that would answer the previous poster's question >> about the difference between doing an upgrade before flar creation and >> just importing a flar from S9: the former resul

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Jerry Jelinek writes: > We can handle 'update on attach' from s10 to nv, although nv isn't an > official release yet and something might happen which breaks this (maybe > IPS?). We don't support 'update on attach' of s8 or s9, although I have > played > around with that and it kind of works. The

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
James, James Carlson wrote: > Jerry Jelinek writes: >> We can handle 'update on attach' from s10 to nv, although nv isn't an >> official release yet and something might happen which breaks this (maybe >> IPS?). We don't support 'update on attach' of s8 or s9, although I have >> played >> around

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Jerry Jelinek writes: > > Since we (intentionally?) make branded zones available only for minor > > releases -- and not for individual KUs -- this means that the user > > should expect that he's forced into an upgrade of some sort that > > emulates patching when importing an S10 zone onto an S10 sy

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Jerry Jelinek
James, James Carlson wrote: > Presumably, as a non-native zone, if such a thing existed, it would be > expected to result in no upgrade-on-attach behavior. Right? Right, although the behavior is really dictated by the brand definition, so some sort of behavior could be defined for zone attachmen

Re: [zones-discuss] zone p2v proposal

2008-12-08 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 01:30:18PM -0500, James Carlson wrote: > Nicolas Williams writes: > > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:37:48PM -0500, James Carlson wrote: > > > I suppose it'd be possible to look through the SMF 'privileges' for > > > the services that are still enabled, and then attempt to union

Re: [zones-discuss] Update on attach and upgrades

2008-12-08 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
James, Thanks for your answer. Le 8 déc. 08 à 18:07, James Carlson a écrit : > (If what you might be expecting here is someone to take the code > "private" somehow, then I very much doubt that.) I'm just really surprised to see "OpenSolaris" and "Enterprise" in the sa

Re: [zones-discuss] Update on attach and upgrades

2008-12-08 Thread James Carlson
Nicolas Dorfsman writes: > I'm just really surprised to see "OpenSolaris" and "Enterprise" in > the same idea. > I thought...no, I'm sure "Enterprise OpenSolaris" is just called > "Solaris". I agree that what you're suggesting would seem simpler and more obvious (it does to me), bu

[zones-discuss] Zone Bandwidth

2008-12-08 Thread Jon Ringuette
Hello, Sorry if I am missing something obvious but is there a good way either via the Zone or Global Zone's SNMP to get the current bandwidth usage for a specific Zone or a command someone can think of that would give me this information? Currently it appears as though netstat -i in a