Re: [Zope] Openflow_ZPygresqlDA_products_broken_on_ZMI

Hi Smita, On 08/12/2010 14:32, Smita Kamdar wrote: > Can I install ZPygresqlDA without uninstalling ZPsycopgDA on the same > m/c? Will it work properly? If it works properly I will install > ZPygresqlDA-0.0.3 on dev Linux box & again import my source code & check > whether it still appears broken?

Re: [Zope] problem installing Openflow product of zope on LINUX

Hi Smita, On 07/12/2010 15:26, Smita Kamdar wrote: > I have already installed the following products on my dev RedHat LINUX m/c – > > 1) Zope-2.11.4 > > 2) Python-2.4.4 > > 3) Egenix-2.0.6 > > 4) Postgresql-7.4.13 > > 5) Psycopg-1.1.6 > > 6) OpenFlow-1.1.0 > > & on the live m/c also all these prod

Re: [Zope] anyone heard of Zamasing?

Hi Tim, Tim Nash wrote: @Phil, I think you will find the "product" learning curve isn't that steep at all. The famous z-shaped curve has more to do with the lack of up-to-date documentation than anything else. Products are the way to go. It is very much like wriitng 'Scripts Python'. I am go

Re: [Zope] anyone heard of Zamasing?

Hi Tim, Tim Nash wrote: It is great to see more posts about how well zope works for "Web 2.0" projects. I have used extjs with zope and really like the combination. I'd like to learn more about your jquery /plone setup and how you make it work. Would it be a time consuming for you to create a

Re: [Zope] anyone heard of Zamasing?

Hi Tom, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Thats pretty awesome. It's "zamazing" to me that Zope 2 is not a de facto platform for "Web 2.0" projects. I think it has some major benefits over Rails and maybe even Django but there seems to be no interest in it from that community. This is a great start.

Re: [Zope] extract page title

Hi Dean, Dean Hale wrote: > I'm trying to implement some web tracking code within a page template, > however a little stuck. > > In the code below i'd like to append the page template - page title > between the tags dynamically rather than having to manually add > to each page > > >

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.6.4 + Win32 server

Hi David, Once again, please stay on the list - you need to hit "reply to all". David VanKirk wrote: I appreciate your help and links, but I'm still not getting anything. I did say it was fiddly! I've go to get some urgent stuff out of the way, but I'll have some time later and will do a

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.6.4 + Win32 server

Hi David, Please stay on the list - have added back in as CC. David VanKirk wrote: I was under the impression that you needed PCGI or FastCGI to get Zope and Apache to communicate. If you have another method, I'm open to try it. No, not at all - in fact FastCGI at least is deprecated in cur

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.6.4 + Win32 server

Hi David, David VanKirk wrote: I'm trying to migrate from a Linux server with Oracle to a win32 server with MS SQL Server. I need to run it behind a webserver so that I can connect through SSL. I've tried IIS, Apache + PCGI, and Apache + FastCGI. Has anyone been able to successfully run a Zop

Re: [Zope] cpu load 99 percent a lot in plone evinironment

Hi Jamie, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > Very useful. I've based my system on the first link because I didn't > need to use POSTs, I just add ?foo=bar to the end of the URL and get it > as normal. I added the ability to load a list of urls and element ids > one after the other, then only activate t

Re: [Zope] cpu load 99 percent a lot in plone evinironment

Hi Robert (Jamie?), Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > I've been having similar speed problems with a page that loops through a > lot of SQL records. From what I can tell from the profiler, it is the > security machinery that is at fault. > I'm doing the same sort of stuff, and routinely have the sam

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings > that the Zope list gets? Yes. because it is a more mature and > constructive support environment which actually helps promote the product. > Bollocks. :-) -- Regards, PhilK "Say w

Re: [Zope] Zope and Log File Analysis

Hi, Doyon, Jean-Francois wrote: > Ah yes, indeed, I could do custom logging ... But then I'd have to worry > about the performance impact, the fact that because these logs would be > custom, I'd need custom analysis tools as well (unless I can make it > compatible somehow?) ... And so on ... >

Re: R: [Zope] Upgrading Zope

Hi Andrew, Nightflyer wrote: >> Which RDBMS are you using your ZSQL Methods against? > > MySQL 4.1. > >From what you tell us, the database adapter is the only 3rd-party dependency, and (although I don't use it myself) I understand mySQL is well-supported, so you really need to try the upgrade o

Re: [Zope] Upgrading Zope

Hi, Nightflyer wrote: > I'd like to know if you think that such migration is feasible or if I'll > encounter some problems. > > Do you think it is better to migrate to the latest version of the 2.x or 3.x > branch? > >From 2.1.x to the latest 2.x should be feasible. Zope 3.x is a rewrite with

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > ignorant thinking. Most businesses use Windows and Zope will suffer > unless it is embraced. > Volunteer to look after Windows if you want to fix this, but do not insult those who have volunteered to look after other platforms. Re-read what Andreas said ("ther

Re: [Zope] zope gets killed on startup

Hi Martijn, Martijn Pieters wrote: > Note that Plone 2.5 uses PlonePAS, which for some reason feels the > need to replace the root-level acl_users folder when you create a > Plone site. > I've just been bitten by this, and aren't at all happy. Is there any reason I can't zap this and revert to

Re: [Zope] zope hosting

Hi David, David H wrote: > My understanding is that Zettai is closing down. Bummer cause I have > been using them. > > Just looking for Zope Host recommendations > I've moved to HSR from Zettai, and am very happy. I did the migration myself, as I wanted to do it step by step, but: - http://h

Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question

Hi Beno, beno wrote: > Well, all I know is that Pound has a strong following of Zopistas that > use it in combination with Zope (and without Apache) for high volume > production work and seem to be happy. Odd, then, that you have not had much input on the list about that. I can't provide numbers,

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope behind iis

Hi Max, Max M wrote: >> (Having seen a server wiped out via an IIS security hole, I just don't >> trust it on a public IP - long time ago, but once bitten, twice shy!) > > Hmmm ... then try making a mistake in your apache httpd.conf and turn on > proxy by mistake. > Sure - but I'm much more wor

Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question

Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: >>> numpty. >> >> That is /such/ a great word! > > My thanks to Tim Penhey for re-introducing me to it :-) > First said to me by a distressed Scots techie - "Is that guy a numpty, or what?", and I hear it in my head in a Scots accent to this day. UrbanDictionary.

Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question

Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: > numpty. > That is /such/ a great word! -- Regards, PhilK "Human language continually changes, innit." - Stephen Juan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross pos

Re: [Zope] MailBoxer Question

Hi, beno wrote: > Apache duplicates 95% of what Zope's server does, so if you're only > using Zope, then it's un-elegant to use Apache. Not so - Apache is a mature production web server, Zope is an application server that serves over HTTP, but it's HTTP server is *not* designed for production use

Re: [Zope] Zope behind iis

Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: > Personally, I'd just put Apache in front of both Zope and IIS... > Me too - simpler, better documented, safer. (Having seen a server wiped out via an IIS security hole, I just don't trust it on a public IP - long time ago, but once bitten, twice shy!) -- Reg

Re: [Zope] Logging client IPs to Z2.log

Hi Oliver, Oliver Hookins wrote: >> I'd missed that you were using the reverse proxy technique - I'd >> strongly recommend rewrite rules. > > Without meaning to be greedy, can you suggest an example? > As Jonathan says, the Zope book has examples. The most recent version I'm aware of is at: -

Re: [Zope] Logging client IPs to Z2.log

Hi Oliver, Oliver Hookins wrote: >> Exactly. Instead of using apache as a reverse proxy, set up rewrite rules >> and then you can pass along the ip address (if you really need it). >> ...[snip]... > > Hmmm sounds like what I suspected is actually true... well at least I won't > spend time bashi

Re: [Zope] Logging client IPs to Z2.log

Hi Oliver, Oliver Hookins wrote: >>> So... is it at all possible to log the real client IPs in Z2.log using >>> mod_proxy? If not what is going to happen when (and if) PCGI/FCGI support >>> is >>> removed? FCGI is already unsupported, >> It may be that you need to reconfigure apache, have a look

Re: [Zope] ZJetDA product and Microsoft Access

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Thanks a lot. Yes I know it's crazy but some organisations built up a > database over the years and want to stay with that technology. The best > way would be to migrate but I can understand why it doesn't happen. > I understand - but the migration from Acce

Re: [Zope] ZJetDA product and Microsoft Access

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > I know it's totally > crazy to want to hook Access up with Zope using sql queries but I'd just > like to know if it's been done or is possible. > Crazy on so many levels.../but/, although I can't tell you anything about the DA you are asking about, I can ver

Re: [Zope] installing zope with appropriate python version

Hi Noah, Noah wrote: > The zope installed is telling me it is going to use the older version of > python of 2.3.5 . Is this proper and welcome behavior? > Yes... > The optimum Python version (2.3.5) was found at /usr/local/bin/python2.3. > > - Zope top-level binary directory will be /opt/Zo

Re: [Zope] Inavlid Refernce Counts in Temporary Storage

Hi Dieter, Dieter Maurer wrote: > You may see a bug in the "pack" implementation for "TemporaryStorage". > Aha - well, my Zope version is 2.8.6 - I'll dig to see if this version is affected. > Few people will probably try to "pack" a TemporaryStorage... > Are you shure to need it? > No, not a

[Zope] Inavlid Refernce Counts in Temporary Storage

Hi All, I have an RDBMS application, which resides in a Plone site, but uses only Zope techniques. Aside from Plone, the only use of the ZODB is to hold session variables for users (search parameters etc.), and the load on that part of the system is very light (10 users, accessing the script in q

Re: [Zope] manage_changeProperties has strange side effect on response Content-Type.

Hi Andreas, Andreas Jung wrote: > 'Hustype' is pure ASCII...this will *always* have the same encoding in > almost all encodings (except in Klingon). > [klingon] ghaH ghItlhta' Daq [ASCII] ;-) -- Regards, PhilK "Human language continually changes, innit." - Stephen Juan ___

Re: [Zope] apache rewrite rules redux

Hi David, I'm suffering from a coffee underflow error, so am not 100% (yet!), but... David Bear wrote: > RewriteRule ^/z2$ http://127.0.0.1:9080/VirtualHostBase/\ > https/%SERVER_NAME}:80/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_z2/ [L,P] > > RewriteRule ^/z2/(.*) http://127.0.0.1:9080/VirtualHostBase/\ > https/%{SE

Re: [Zope] Atomic ZSQL on Zope 2.7.5

Hi Michael, Maslak, Michael wrote: > How can I detect failure and maintain atomicity? > You may get more responses to this on the Zope-DB list - as well as other RDBMS + Zope users, the eGenix guys are active over there (or as active as you can be on such a quiet list). -- Regards, PhilK E

Re: [Zope] Atomic ZSQL on Zope 2.7.5

Hi Floyd, Floyd May wrote: >> Like Michael, I had understood that ZSQL database transactions were tied >> into Zope transactions, and would fail or succeed as a whole. Like him, >> I have found that - at least with this combination of DA & RDBMS - this >> is not so. I work around it, as I always d

Re: [Zope] Atomic ZSQL on Zope 2.7.5

Hi Andreas, Andreas Jung wrote: >> For some reason I thought ZSQL method calls were atomic, but they appear >> otherwise. > > What do you mean by atomic? ZSQL are handled by the database adaper > which is usually tied to the transaction manager of the ZODB. > I'm too tired to find the words, so

Re: [Zope] Nabble, again?

Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: > Dunno what Nabble is > You could always google for it... ;-) (Sorry - couldn't help myself!) -- Regards, PhilK Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public key: http://www.xfr.co.uk Voicemail & Facsimile: 07092 070518 "You'll find that one part's sweet and one pa

Re: [Zope] Using folder name in macro

Hi John, John Poltorak wrote: > How do I use a folder name in a macro? > > ie I want to change this > > > This is a path expression with a file (abc.pt) and path ("context/", signifying the context of the call)... > which is in the folder 'abc' > ...so you must have "/abc/abc.pt" > to >

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > I've implemented what's outlined in the make private site > documentation and it works fine on Plone 2.1.1. No content is available > apart from the site-map page (doesn't list content) and the contact form > but I can figure that out separately. > Since ne

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Yes I found that as well but picked it up from the Google cache. > Strange that it is available there as it's password protected. > Possibly it was public before? > Yes, it was public before. Have you tried this, and does it solve your problems? JCC is spo

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

Hi Again, Re. "Private Plone Site" Howto Philip Kilner wrote: > It's still there, still works - and is very likely what Michael wants. > I'm an idiot - should have checked, knowing that there was a documentation sprint last weekend. It was at: - http://plone.org/doc

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

Hi, J Cameron Cooper wrote: > Also, as I recall, there was a "private plone site" howto on plone.org; > dunno what happened to it. > It's still there, still works - and is very likely what Michael wants. -- Regards, PhilK Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public key: http://www.xfr.co.uk Voicem

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Also I feel that Plone has > usabillity which sits above it's prettyness. It is a well designed > interface graphically but also has very strong non graphical usability > elements. > You are correct - but you are not comparing like with like, as Plone is an

Re: [Zope] ODBC DA on zope>2.6.x

Hi Giuseppe, Giuseppe Bonelli wrote: > What people use as an ODBC database adaptor on Zope 2.7 and above? > Is the eGenix.com mxODBC Zope DA commercial product the only serious > alternative? > I use the eGenix product (against MS SQL Server, primarily), and am very happy with it. It is not exp

Re: [Zope] NTUserFolder still useful?

Hi Sean, Sean Dunn wrote: > I’m running Zope on WindowsXP with plans to run it on server 2003. > Instead of creating user accounts I’d like to leverage NT > authentication.. And NTUserFolder looks like it might be what I want, > except that it looks like a dead product. Besides a note that it work

Re: [Zope] Vservers and ZOPE

Hi Benmania, Benmania Guin wrote: > I have some experience with Zope on my desktop pc with an WIN XP operating > system. Now I want to order my own virtual server but I am unsure about the > features I will need and I do not know how to install ZOPE on such a system > at all. > Can you give me

Re: [Zope] Re: ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Whether you call them objects or fields it's still clear what I want > to do and there's no easy way to do it. Surprised someone hasn't > developed a product tn do this. I'm looking at CMFMember and perhaps > it will fit the bill. > There are a bunch of thin

Re: [Zope] Re: ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > I've already made it clear in this thread exactly what I want to do! > It doesn't to be a relational db to be able to easily add fields.The > database browser tools in the ZMI are ok but basic. > I'm as puzzled as other readers, but now you have said "add fi

Re: [Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > I've even tried using the machine's local IP but that doesn't work in > the same way that localhost doesn't. I've installed Apache now as well > so as to route requests through that to Zope. > > I'm going to be using the same IP address that the webmail excha

Re: [Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Thanks for the help here. I'm calling in a support engineer to try and > get it up and running. Firewall, router issues involved. Strange > though that localhost doesn't work. Because that wouldn't go through > the firewall/router. > I despise ISA Server wit

Re: [Zope] Anyone using isapirewrite or freshlogic re-write for IIS and Zope?

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Has anyone used either of the ISAPI re-write tools for IIS and Zope > from HeliconTech at http://www.isapirewrite.com or at Freshlogic > http://freshlogic.net ? > > I'm attempting to set up a largescale instance on a windows small > business server. > > The

[Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Ok, thanks. Yes, Apache would be much better to route traffic through. > And also it looks like a complete pain to try and route traffic > through IIS. Is Apache for windows good? I only have experience of it > on UNIX> > Works fine - once it's up and runnin

[Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Ok thanks. Will check on the ISA side. I've it up and running on a laptop > fine. > Will let you know progress. Would you say it should be fine just > running the app from the zope server on 8080 once it is running,rather > than configuring to go through IIS?

[Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

Hi Michael, Michael nt milne wrote: > I read though that you have to do a re-write in IIS or install an > ISAPI re-write extension so that IIS speaks to zope. There's also the > 404 asp script in Andy Mckay's book. > This only applies if you are using the /same/ ports on IIS as Zope. Using 8080

Re: [Zope] localhost:8080 not found on windows

Hi Michael, Apols for delay in replying - been on the hoof. michael nt milne wrote: > Thanks for the advice. Yes I've looked at everything mentioned here. > Localhost is in the hosts file. Zope has started as a service. I've > changed the hosts file to include localhost:8080/manage etc. > > Yes

Re: [Zope] localhost:8080 not found on windows

Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > I have installed Zope and Plone on a windows business server. On > trying to view http://localhost:8080/manage I am getting a 404 not > found etc. > Is that under IE? It's error messages can be misleading... > The server is already running a webmail service

Re: [Zope] RE: Blobs in Interbase

Hi Ashley, Ashley Lloyd wrote: > The LDAP error, as it turns out, was from "zkinterbasdb" or something like > that - something I probably picked up thinking it was kinterbase. > Aha - thought it was unlikely to be from the DA! > Forgive my ignorance, but what was your procedure for installing k

Re: [Zope] RE: Blobs in Interbase

Hi Ashley, Can't help you on the blob front... Ashley Lloyd wrote: > I've had trouble installing kinterbase (it complains about LDAP..?), so > at the moment I use gvib. I've pencilled in quite a bit of time today to > try to get kinterbase installed. > Unfortunately I'm on Windows, which I'm gues

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope Foundation Update

Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: >> This has the potential to make the Zope community look like muppets, and >> not in a good "Swedish chef" kind of way... > > I'm not sure muppetism applies to the Zope community, it appears to be > Zope Corporation who are coming out of this looking less than clev

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope Foundation Update

Hi Godefroid, Godefroid Chapelle wrote: > It's definitely better to speak about it in the open air, where we all > will be able to think about it together. > Amen. I wasn't aware of this until ten minutes ago, and now it seems a whole bunch of stuff has gone on, up to and including people getti

Re: [Zope] Newbie Questions - many-many relationships? Zope 2 or 3?

Hi Jim, Jim Vine wrote: > I’d greatly appreciate any guidance that can be > provided on these subjects. > I know a lot has been said since your original query, but re-reading it I was surprised that no one had asked a fundamental question: - "If the data is structured in nature and fits the rel

Re: [Zope] Transferring Zope Settings

Hi Joel, jlegris wrote: > Clearly, transferring the Data.fs from > the test server to the production server is insufficient given the user data > mismatch. Therefore, it would seem that my only option, given the > circumstances would be to manually replicate the configuration in the > production s

Re: [Zope] POP3 servers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Varun, Varun Parange wrote: > which are some POP3 servers i can download for free, which are > interfaceable with Zope > You need to tell us more about what you are trying to do for us to be able to help you much. However: - - - POP3 is a matu

Re: [Zope] Re: Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses?

Hi Chris, Chris Withers wrote: (There are no plans to deprecate DTML. It is even supported in Zope 3.) That is the best news I have heard all day (although, it is early). I will be selling black flags for the mourning of a missed opportunity... With or without a circled "A"? ;-) -- Regards, PhilK