Could you explain the problems that should be solved by this a little? I
find it rather hard to contribute anything useful without knowing some
concrete examples ...
Btw, i have a prototype Catalog that speeds up things a bit in usual
scenarios. It is cacheable, implements an extended query interf
At 05:58 PM 12/4/01 +, Chris Withers wrote:
>"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
> >
> > I personally would like to see ZPT support plain text at some point, and it
> > already has some of the things necessary to do it. But that's a separate
> > issue from Zope 3X or Zope 3 itself.
>
>It already can:
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Cool stuff!
> Andreas Jung wrote:
> [snip]
Andreas Jung wrote:
[snip]
> > On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 11:38, Chris Withers wrote:
> > > Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If people agree, I will go through the Zope 3 CVS and change all
> references
> > > > from Feature to Adaptor. :)
>
> Please try to avoid crossposts over zope-dev and zope
Chris Withers wrote:
> "Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
> >
> > I personally would like to see ZPT support plain text at some point, and it
> > already has some of the things necessary to do it. But that's a separate
> > issue from Zope 3X or Zope 3 itself.
>
> It already can:
>
> tal:content="
Chris McDonough wrote:
> There really is a lot more work that goes into the stuff in the
> fishbowl from the folks at ZC than just an announcement
Exactly. But in the end, if nobody responds except internally at ZC,
and you implement it, the fishbowl stuff is kind of an announcement,
right? And
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> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 11:38, Chris Withers wrote:
> > Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > >
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 11:38, Chris Withers wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
> >
> > If people agree, I will go through the Zope 3 CVS and change all references
> > from Feature to Adaptor. :)
+1
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Matt Behrens wrote:
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>> Again, this is all quite exciting and I hope you can join the action.
>
> I hope to. Who's in charge of packaging and installation? I see an
> opportunity to do it right this time, I hope I'm not too late to the party.
I think this is an excell
Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Q: Will Zope 3X be compatible with Zope 2 products?
> A: No.
What's up with the ZopeLegacy stuff in the co I'm getting now? Yes I am
grabbing the branch...
> To check out Zope 3X from CVS:
>
> cvs -d :pserver:cvs.zope.org:/cvs-repository co -r Zope-3x-branch Zope3
Radu Buzea wrote:
>I have a problem with a Zope 2.3.0 (source release, Python 1.5.2 [GCC 2.96
>2731 (experimental)]) on Linux and MySQL.
>
>I'm using ZMySQLDA to connect to a MySQL database. I use a single database
>table (witch has over 3500 records right now). There are over 1000 records
>p
Richard Jones wrote:
>
> Roundup has complete flexibility in the front and back ends.
Sounds cool :-)
I'd go and persuade the Iuveno guys now, since they seem to have lots of energy
right now...
cheers,
Chris
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Casey Duncan wrote:
>
> Chris, hows about adding me to this project, my
> s'forge username is cduncan.
done... lemme know if ya need anything else :-)
Chris
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Casey Duncan wrote:
>
> I think my first real proposal of any significance
> will be to replace the catalog with a truely
> industrial strength indexing bohemoth, that can be
> plugged into this whole "component arch."
> thingamawhammy.
*cough* --->
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pythonindexer
Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> One of the remediations has been to extend CVS commit privileges to
Completely agree with everything you say, but what's wrong wit hthe word
'remedies'? ;-)
Chris
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Hi,
is there anybody how knows a product which combines the open-source
search-engine htdig with zope ?
Dirk
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On Wednesday 05 December 2001 04:01, Chris Withers wrote:
> Richard Jones wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://roundup.sf.net/
> >
> > ... is in heavy development, but is also being used right now.
> >
> >
>
> Well, it's written in Python, so probably a good candidate.
>
> Could it be integrated into Z
I finally got the time to read through the ZopeVersionControl proposal
properly. It seems all very good too me. It does feel a bit like Zope as
usual is completely technology driven and haven't invested much thought in
how it should be used and how the management interface should look, but
thats w
There really is a lot more work that goes into the stuff in the
fishbowl from the folks at ZC than just an announcement. That said, I
agree that a ZC proposal driven by a consulting project will more
likely end up in the core than anything else, so I think I understand
what you're saying. The pr
Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > The other thing is that
> > > the core coders at Zope Corp are the only ones that can get
> around the
> > > fishbowl if they so desire.
> >
> > Here! Here!
>
> Not really. I couldn't, at least.
You guys can use the fishbowl as what is in effect an announcement
ser
> The beauty of Z3, though, is that you should have much more flexibility
> in what you choose to use. Don't like DTML? Don't use it. Really hate
Thats really not the problem imho.
The problem is that some products will use DTMLFile and
standard_html_header/footer, and that is a real mess...
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Casey Duncan wrote:
> Can you all recommend any other books on information
> retrieval? I was looking at Amazon last night, and I
> found a few that looked interesting, I'm just the type
> of guy that has to "leaf through" before I buy the
> damn thing. I guess I just need to
Hi,
I'm looking for a search tool which can do semantic/synonym search.
Can this be done via ZCatalog ?
Regards
Dirk
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Chris, hows about adding me to this project, my
s'forge username is cduncan.
Thanks.
-Casey
--- Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matt Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > if index1 is in SQL and index2 is in ZODB, for
> example, how would you
> > > go about efficiently combining results?
> >
>
Can you all recommend any other books on information
retrieval? I was looking at Amazon last night, and I
found a few that looked interesting, I'm just the type
of guy that has to "leaf through" before I buy the
damn thing. I guess I just need to find a good tech
book store around here...
I think
Martijn Faassen wrote:
>
> If people agree, I will go through the Zope 3 CVS and change all references
> from Feature to Adaptor. :)
+1 from me, Feature has so much less meaning than Adaptor in this context...
Chris
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> > BTW another correction: it turns out we will be implementing some DTML
> > in Zope 3X.
>
> acckkk... why?
Because it still has legitimate uses (try formatting a MIME-multipart
email message with ZPT...).
The beauty of Z3, though, is that you should have much more flexibility
in what you c
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> P.S. Speaking of naming, I still dislike "feature" as a term for interface
> implementations; various suggestions available on the "Feature" page of the
> ComponentArchitecture Wiki. :)
I agree. I still much prefer 'adaptor' and I don't buy the
'adaptors sound too much
> > The other thing is that
> > the core coders at Zope Corp are the only ones that can get
around the
> > fishbowl if they so desire.
>
> Here! Here!
Not really. I couldn't, at least.
- C
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No I mean Zope2. That's not in exclusion of handing off bits of
Zope3, but Zope2 is still the current stable release and as such isn't
dead code.
Huge parts of Zope3 are in flux at the moment, and though folks are
more than encouraged to contribute, it's not for the faint of heart.
Zope2 is fami
Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> I actually think that with Zope3 in progress, it's a great time to
> completely and formally hand off bits and pieces of Zope2 ownership to
> folks within ZC and without.
Hang on, surely you mean Zope3 there? What's the point of handing off
responsibility for what is
Martijn Faassen wrote:
>
> So what am I trying to get at with this mail? One thing is that
> the process is too heavy-weight right now.
> The other thing is that
> the core coders at Zope Corp are the only ones that can get around the
> fishbowl if they so desire.
Here! Here!
Chris
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
>
> I personally would like to see ZPT support plain text at some point, and it
> already has some of the things necessary to do it. But that's a separate
> issue from Zope 3X or Zope 3 itself.
It already can:
Some dummy text
Or even:
Some dummy text
It's more lo
Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
> BTW another correction: it turns out we will be implementing some DTML
> in Zope 3X.
acckkk... why?
Chris
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Joachim Werner wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Just a very short comment:
>
>>As Paul said in the Paris meeting and as Joachim W. has
>>stated in a previous mail, one thing we can work on is in
>>a common way to get translations from message catalogs, from
>>Python code and DTML and ZPT templates.
>>
>
>exactly
>
I am confused? is this a zope-dev or zope-web topic?
Is the goal to provide this for new.zope.org to share with the community via
XML-RPC and release as a Zope product?
Either way we need a component architecture plus identifying all the
existing product snippets or objects that could be used. R
Lennart Regebro wrote:
>
> He is wrong.
Open your mind, 'dude'...
I did _not_ inhale ;-)
Chris
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ht
if what you are returning is simply a list of items (like a list of
strings) you should return that simple list from the python script and
inside the dtml-in loop just say::
jens
On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 11:44 , Dirk Datzert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have following trivial problem:
>
> A
Richard Jones wrote:
>
>
>
> http://roundup.sf.net/
>
> ... is in heavy development, but is also being used right now.
>
>
Well, it's written in Python, so probably a good candidate.
Could it be integrated into Zope?
cheers,
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something like:
return ['a','b','c','d']
try that in a Script(Python).
then iterate in a dtml method with dtml-in.
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From: "Dirk Datzert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: [Zope-dev] PythonScript
> Hi,
>
Stephan Richter wrote:
>
> Well, I want to demonstrate that Zope can do it. I will not have the
> patience to make a nice interface on top of it (unless I get paid for it),
> but at least tight Mailman and CVS integration are awesome examples of the
> capabilities of Zope.
Hmm, on the Right vs H
On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 06:37 AM, Joseph Wayne Norton wrote:
[SNIP[
> p.s. It is my own personal taste but I don't really care for the tkgui
> interface for running the zope test suite. Any possibilites of making
> the test suite run in a fashion similar to the python installation
> te
Matt Hamilton wrote:
>
> No they don't really (if I remember right). I think they do talk about
> storing the position of the word in the document, so that could help. I
> need to dig the book out, I looked at it about 18 months ago.
*puts gun to head*
Chris
_
Hi,
I have following trivial problem:
A DTML-Mthode calls a PythonScript suchThemen with Argumen themen like
this
The PythonScript should return values and I want to display in the
dtml-in-loop the result variable themas.
Question: How must I programm the PythonScript that suchThem
Paul Everitt wrote:
>
> Chris was just drinking a beer with us at Orbit's twenty minutes ago,
> and now he's responding to email on a Friday night. That's just sick.
No, sick was the conversation that happened on #zope from 2am-4am UK time when
what felt like half of ZC showed up (most having b
Joachim Werner wrote:
>
> My experience from EuroZope is that we would desperately need some paid
> "community workers". The Zope community seems to be much more professional
> than others, which means that there are not enough people with too much free
> time to run the infrastructure. Most of u
Joachim Werner wrote:
>
> Zope 2.x, together with the CMF, was "sold" bei DC/ZC as a content
> management product,
No it wasn't, it was sold as a Content Management Framework, ie one of these:
> It is a good start for building
> one,
> Zope is a nearly perfect document storage, except for its
AFAIK, OOSet is a set of objects and IISet is a set of integers.
That's the simplest usage of them. Anything beyond that you'll need
to experiment.
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To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Matt Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECT
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Chris Withers wrote:
> > (it can do boolean searches too, but the book is mainly about
> > ranking).
>
> Please god tell me they cover phrase matching :-S
No they don't really (if I remember right). I think they do talk about
storing the position of the word in the document,
Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> There are also set objects like OOSets and IISets that can be used in
> intersection and union operations as documented in the BTrees module.
I never understood the documentation :-(
What's the difference between an OOSet and and IISet?
(I think i know the answer to t
Matt Hamilton wrote:
>
> > if index1 is in SQL and index2 is in ZODB, for example, how would you
> > go about efficiently combining results?
>
> Is there not a set datatype in python that could be used?
There is, but what would happen if index1 returned 25,000 results and index2
returned 250 a
YAY
*There was much rejoicing*
Thanks Shane, once again you have solved my problems.
-Andy
Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
> Andy Dawkins wrote:
>
> >>Zope 3X requires Python 2.2b2.
> >>
> >
> > Are you sure you mean Python2.2b2?
> >
> > I tried this but seem to get problems with the pyexpat module.
Behrens Matt - Grand Rapids wrote:
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
>> Q: Will Zope 3X be compatible with Zope 2 products?
>> A: No.
>
> What's up with the ZopeLegacy stuff in the co I'm getting now? Yes I am
> grabbing the branch...
ZopeLegacy is the home of the compatibility layer. It's symlink
Andy Dawkins wrote:
>>Zope 3X requires Python 2.2b2.
>>
>
> Are you sure you mean Python2.2b2?
>
> I tried this but seem to get problems with the pyexpat module.
>
> Would a different version do, Or have you solved any problems with the
> pyexpat module in 2.2.b2?
Make sure you have expat, i
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:37:55PM +0900, Joseph Wayne Norton wrote:
> p.s. It is my own personal taste but I don't really care for the tkgui
> interface for running the zope test suite. Any possibilites of making
> the test suite run in a fashion similar to the python installation
> test suite?
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
>
(snip)
> >So would the new Zope been limited to ML ?
>
> Actually, although Zope 3X doesn't support DTML,
The current very early prototype code doesn't support
DTML. Zope 3x, which by the way is not a zope version so
much as a set of milestones, will certainly support
> > Time in my case at least. Over the last 6 month I have been gradually
> > working on SourceForge-like site.
>
>Why bother? Why not just use SourceForge?
Well, I want to demonstrate that Zope can do it. I will not have the
patience to make a nice interface on top of it (unless I get paid for
Stephan Richter wrote:
>
> Time in my case at least. Over the last 6 month I have been gradually
> working on SourceForge-like site.
Why bother? Why not just use SourceForge?
> - ZBabel (I have written some code that let's you update translations via a
> Master Tower remotely. I would love it,
At 12:21 PM 12/4/01 +0100, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
>I would like to get a better idea of what 'Zope rebuilt from the ground up
>includes'.
Code that isn't crufty! Now with the new, sparkling clear look of
Interfaces, and a zesty twist of tests! Objects that don't peer and poke
at other ob
Hello.
Just for fun ... I tried to run the tests too. I built Python2.2b2
from source and had to manually modify the Setup.dist file to build
and include pyexpat.
I then ran the zope test suite and all passed except one ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"/usr/local/namaste/zfs-li
At 12:05 AM 12/4/2001 +0100, Nicola Larosa wrote:
>>However, even though a couple people suggested to me to use ZPT, nobody
>>has yet written the ZPT script for my manage_admin example. I need that
>>in order to decide which one is better in this case to use.
>
>OK, I'll bite. I've been working
> Zope 3X requires Python 2.2b2.
Shane
Are you sure you mean Python2.2b2?
I tried this but seem to get problems with the pyexpat module.
Would a different version do, Or have you solved any problems with the
pyexpat module in 2.2.b2?
I have added a few print statements to my xml.sax.__init__.
Q: What is Zope 3X?
A: Zope 3X is Zope rebuilt from the ground up, applying the lessons
learned from Zope 2 and CMF.
Q: Will Zope 3X support DTML?
A: Probably not.
Q: Will Zope 3 support DTML?
A: Yes.
I would like to get a better idea of what 'Zope rebuilt from the ground up
includes'.
For
I have a problem with a Zope 2.3.0 (source release, Python 1.5.2 [GCC 2.96
2731 (experimental)]) on Linux and MySQL.
I'm using ZMySQLDA to connect to a MySQL database. I use a single database
table (witch has over 3500 records right now). There are over 1000 records
posted every day. The serv
> However, even though a couple people suggested to me to use ZPT, nobody
> has yet written the ZPT script for my manage_admin example. I need that
> in order to decide which one is better in this case to use.
OK, I'll bite. I've been working with ZPT for several months now, please
send the s
Hello,
I've installed a CMF site.
I receive, by
From: Trevor Toenjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This proposal is dead-on to make the errors more accessible and
> customizable. This is the solution to some of my previous error_message
> threads.
>
> How do we move this from proposal to project?
We need to define the scope very clearly. Please ad
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