[Zope-dev] Documentation

2004-10-05 Thread Toby Dickenson
and change suggestions. In particular, my notes on using squid with zope, and the changes I originally drafted for the Zope Developers Guide on using unicode in Zope. Is there now a more approporiate place to hold this documentation where it can be maintained? Thanks in advance, -- Toby

Re: [Zope-dev] any limits on object number?

2004-07-14 Thread Toby Dickenson
using a BTree of some kind. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: Multi-Databases

2004-05-05 Thread Toby Dickenson
in a filesystem or zodb database). Can you give some examples? -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Unicode in Zope 2 (ZMI, Archetypes, Plone, Formulator)

2004-04-26 Thread Toby Dickenson
in this way, but it seems to be how the Unicode support in Zope 2 was meant to be used. That is correct. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] performance tuning of ZODB

2004-04-22 Thread Toby Dickenson
the number of worker threads lets you increase the per-thread cache size. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http

Re: [Zope-dev] performance tuning of ZODB

2004-04-22 Thread Toby Dickenson
;-) -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Display Files from directory

2004-03-16 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 15 March 2004 12:59, Darshan Preet Singh Manku wrote: file = 'C:\tmp' try 'C:/tmp' or 'C:\\tmp'. unless your file name really does contain a tab character ;-) -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: BTrees strangeness (was [Zope-dev] Zope 2.X BIG Session problems - blocker - our site dies - need help of experience Zope developer, please)

2004-03-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
applications that send emails in error handlers. MailHost isnt transactional today, but Ive always wanted it to be. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal (was How to make Zope fail nicely under high load?)

2004-02-19 Thread Toby Dickenson
; basically do away with the Medusa request queue altogether and use listen()'s backlog instead. Last week you were keen that medusa keep processing requests so that it can return a 503 error quickly. I guess your view on that requirement has changed? -- Toby Dickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] How to make Zope fail nicely under high load?

2004-02-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
on different Zope instances. (my apologies if this is obvious) -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope, forking and cpu-affinity

2004-02-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
if it crashes. the others are all threads of one process. one main medusa thread, and 4 publisher threads. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope-dev] How to make Zope fail nicely under high load?

2004-02-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
backlog. might work. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http

Re: [Zope-dev] cPickleCache endless loop...

2004-01-27 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 27 January 2004 19:08, Tim Peters wrote: Maybe Toby remembers which release(s) of ZODB the current cache implementation first appeared in Zope 2.6 -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] cPickleCache endless loop...

2004-01-27 Thread Toby Dickenson
of these troublesome objects that move themselves to the top of the LRU list *during* the scan will end up *after* the scan terminator node, and therefore do not get rescanned. This works for me on 2.6, which is the only branch Im set up to use at the moment. -- Toby Dickenson ? diff ? diff2 Index

Re: [Zope-dev] cPickleCache endless loop...

2004-01-26 Thread Toby Dickenson
to imagine why, since it will get called whenever the object is ghostified, and has nothing to do with the object's actual lifetime), don't reference any persistent objects (and esp. not self) within it. or 2b as jeremy suggested, put your __del__ on a non-persistent sub object. -- Toby

Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB load state error

2004-01-26 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 26 January 2004 12:08, Thyb wrote: What could be the problem? That indicates that you are out of memory. If that doesnt seem right, maybe your storage is corrupt in a manner that the unpickler interprets as something with a huge memory footprint. -- Toby Dickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] cPickleCache endless loop...

2004-01-26 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 26 January 2004 17:22, Tim Peters wrote: It's actually that the number of __del__-resurrecting objects *plus* the number of non-ghostifiable objects in cache is larger than the cache target size, right? Yes, Right. That is more achievable than I thought. -- Toby Dickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7 management_page_charset cannot be callable anymore

2004-01-16 Thread Toby Dickenson
with my Formulator hack solution. Can you point me to a desicription of this hack please. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope-dev] ZServer HTTP 1.1 support

2003-12-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
in front of your zope, then squid will manange both HTTP 1.1 persistent connections to your browsers, and persistent connections to your Zope. The squid-to-zope persistent connections are not in the style of HTTP 1.1 though. Squid uses slightly different headers - I forget the details. -- Toby

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-09 Thread Toby Dickenson
) that didn't have to add the slash. What was the rationale originally? Because dtml-var BASEPATH1/dtml-var absolute_url(1) looks nicer than without the slash ? -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Post-mortem [Was: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions]

2003-12-09 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 16:24, Evan Simpson wrote: Summary: absolute_url(1) Looks good. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.7.0 b3 regressions

2003-12-08 Thread Toby Dickenson
these problems early enough to fix the damage cheaply. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Unicode id's and utf8 url encoding

2003-11-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
equivalent to getattr(some_object, id). Its not obvious to me how this can be cleanly resolved in zope 2. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-23 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:07, Chris Withers wrote: Toby Dickenson wrote: Apart from the most trivial cases, it would allow _v_ attributes to disappear at random. Its a similar problem to the one that makes it hard to write an optimiser for python code, and I am unconvinced

Re: [Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org down

2003-10-23 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 18:08, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Just a quick heads-up: Then we will start restoring the data from the old drives. That makes me nervous. How will you know that the sources in cvs havent been compromised? -- Toby Dickenson

[Zope-dev] Re: _v_ variables and cache garbage collection

2003-10-23 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 23 October 2003 18:52, Chris Withers wrote: What in the ZODB cache or other ZODB code could be causing _v_ variables to stick around after they've been set to None in their containing objects? reference cycles -- Toby Dickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] Making Zope accept international characters in Id's

2003-10-20 Thread Toby Dickenson
one if nobody complains. consider this a complaint. character encodings should be applied at zopes boundary, not in the middle of its processing. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-15 Thread Toby Dickenson
boundaries. Agreed. Are there any situations, apart from the already discussed CMF skindata, where this currently isn't the case? every database adapter? (I guess, but havent checked) -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-15 Thread Toby Dickenson
. Apart from the most trivial cases, it would allow _v_ attributes to disappear at random. Its a similar problem to the one that makes it hard to write an optimiser for python code, and I am unconvinced that this is sane. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-15 Thread Toby Dickenson
thereafter. If you are seening that then I think you need a bigger cache. And possibly fewer publisher threads. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Friday 10 October 2003 18:34, Dieter Maurer wrote: Toby Dickenson wrote at 2003-10-10 07:54 +0100: ... A while ago there was a discussion on zodb-dev about _v_-like attributes that would be automatically cleared at the end of a transaction. Do we need something similar

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-10 Thread Toby Dickenson
be cleared until the end of the transaction? -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Friday 03 October 2003 15:33, Chris McDonough wrote: Jim is keen to get an audit going quickly before a 2.7 final release, and the audit would be performed against Python 2.3.2. Does anyone else have an interest in blessing Zope 2.6.x with Python 2.2/2.3 ? -- Toby Dickenson

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB 3.2 feedback

2003-09-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
. If you've got a current CVS checkout of Zope I'm unable to test because of the Python 2.2 requirement :-( Im in the same position, also :-( -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-09-26 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Friday 26 September 2003 09:32, Chris Withers wrote: Toby Dickenson wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:51, Chris Withers wrote: Hmmm, does _p_deactivate() clear the contents of the object's _v_ variables? Yes Then given your earlier comment that _v_ variables are supposed

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-09-25 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:51, Chris Withers wrote: Hmmm, does _p_deactivate() clear the contents of the object's _v_ variables? Yes -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Catalog performance

2003-09-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 11 September 2003 03:03, John Barratt wrote: I think ghosts are only 'removed' after a restart, fyi, ghosts are removed from memory using reference counting. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Zope-dev] Cache growing during single REQUEST

2003-09-05 Thread Toby Dickenson
processed normally. I havent seen a mention of ulimit or autolance earlier in this thread They are mostly adequate protection against the work problems. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope-dev] Cache growing during single REQUEST

2003-09-05 Thread Toby Dickenson
, of course) I'm also keen for users to nto get MemoryErrors, but to just have their request take much longer ( cache thrashing and the like...) use squid, and it will retry the request. -- Toby Dickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Zope-dev] UndoSearch Timeout

2003-08-07 Thread Toby Dickenson
to these functions? -- Toby Dickenson - http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson Want a job like mine? http://www.geminidataloggers.com/jobs for Software Engineering jobs at Gemini Data Loggers in Chichester, West Sussex, England ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] segfaults in cPersistence under 2.6

2003-07-25 Thread Toby Dickenson
? -- Toby Dickenson - http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson Want a job like mine? http://www.geminidataloggers.com/jobs for Software Engineering jobs at Gemini Data Loggers in Chichester, West Sussex, England ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: FHS, zopectl, #925, Re: [Zope-dev] 2.7 installation

2003-06-19 Thread Toby Dickenson
stuff as a non-root user. Portage was designed to allow this, but I doubt it is well exercised. Trying this has been on my to-do list for a while. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL

Re: [Zope-dev] version status

2003-06-17 Thread Toby Dickenson
, for example as a seach page. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http

Re: [Zope-dev] ZMI tweak

2003-06-16 Thread Toby Dickenson
to allow them to hook into the global gui; either the top bar or Control_Panel. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] ZMI tweak

2003-06-16 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 16 June 2003 08:05, Toby Dickenson wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 16:53, Christian Theune wrote: When catching up with the mail in the mailinglist, I remembered a small annoyance I'm having with the ZMI. I really appreciate the errorlog and am using it frequently. But if you

Re: [Zope-dev] version status

2003-06-16 Thread Toby Dickenson
you tested it? -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http

Re: small summary and big plea was:(Re: [Zope-dev] Versions: should they die?)

2003-06-10 Thread Toby Dickenson
cant afford to stop using versions -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickensonIndex: lib/python/ZODB/ZApplication.py === RCS file: /cvs-repository/Zope/lib/python/ZODB/ZApplication.py,v retrieving revision 1.13

Re: small summary and big plea was:(Re: [Zope-dev] Versions: should they die?)

2003-06-10 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 09:32, Jamie Heilman wrote: Toby Dickenson wrote: ! # Disable nasty insecure version support. Thanks to ! # Jamie Heilman and everyone one zope-dev Unless you're damning me with faint praise for posting an exploit, (which is fine) No criticism

Re: small summary and big plea was:(Re: [Zope-dev] Versions: should they die?)

2003-06-06 Thread Toby Dickenson
a port that ignored cookies but always used a specific Version would avoid many of the existing problems too. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope-dev] Versions: should they die?

2003-06-05 Thread Toby Dickenson
type that I'd like to use revisions for. The accepted wisdom is that feature like this should be implemented in the application, above zodb. This has come up a few times on zodb-dev list. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZCM] [ZC] 869/ 5 Comment Broken transaction handling in case of exceptions

2003-04-04 Thread Toby Dickenson
case? I am hoping that there may be a better solution that avoids the problems I raised. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [ZCM] [ZC] 869/ 5 Comment Broken transaction handling in case of exceptions

2003-04-04 Thread Toby Dickenson
are non-persistent, otherwise bad zodb-level things can happen. Does Zope 3 guard against this? -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Session Errors (read conflicts)

2003-03-18 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 3:24 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: Our live sessions code uses the sessions about half to two-thirds of the way through the transaction. Given what can happen in that first half, there is easily plenty of time for read conflicts. I think I might be able to move our

Re: [Zope-dev] Session Errors (read conflicts)

2003-03-18 Thread Toby Dickenson
that will cause a POSKeyError when read. Can the problem be reproduced using DirectoryStorage? (without the low consistency connection) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Zope-dev] Session Errors

2003-03-17 Thread Toby Dickenson
that are likely to change early in the transaction. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope-dev] How (in)secure is Zope?

2003-03-13 Thread Toby Dickenson
security issues in a *fork* starting with the 2.6 maintenance branch? (reply-to set to zope-dev) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] How (in)secure is Zope?

2003-03-13 Thread Toby Dickenson
is secure (Note that I dont consider this a flaw in Zope.) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review

2003-03-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
components. I would be interested in your thoughts on whether this makes a difference. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] Prevayler and Object Prevalence

2003-03-03 Thread Toby Dickenson
commands on recovery. There is no way to apply transactional semantics to application logic, except by cramming all the work into one big command object. (I hope that helps. Appologies in advance for any inaccuracies) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] support for low level HTTP Response logging?

2003-02-25 Thread Toby Dickenson
proxy. Set up a squid acl to catch this one user, and send his requests via tcpwatch (or similar) rather than direct to zope. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Bare except dangerous to ZODB?

2003-02-20 Thread Toby Dickenson
application state revert mid-request to the pre-transaction state seems like a bad idea. Commiting application changes made in the second half of the request seems bad too. (All from theory - I ve not tested this) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] How can I tell what a Zope Process is doing?

2003-02-18 Thread Toby Dickenson
of bytes sent back to the client? ;-) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists

Re: Bare except dangerous to ZODB? was Re: [Zope-dev] Accept-Charset hearders causing 500 internal server error.[correct but not lenient]

2003-02-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 10 February 2003 8:47 pm, Shane Hathaway wrote: Great, so there's at least 133 things to examine to see if they could catch a ConflictError. And I only wrote about 15 of those. The rest could be very time-consuming to audit. tal:on-error also catches all exceptions. It could

Re: [Zope-dev] [Bug] Zope's transaction behaviour flawed

2003-02-03 Thread Toby Dickenson
transaction to the next inside the exception and traceback. The same applies to your prorosed fix. Is there a need to allow the error handling transaction to commit? I propose it always be aborted. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] [Bug] Zope's transaction behaviour flawed

2003-02-03 Thread Toby Dickenson
transaction.begin is: '''Begin a new transaction. This aborts any transaction in progres. ''' (I should have a chance to experiment with this tomorrow) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] FYI: Zope 2.6.1 b2 scheduled for friday

2003-01-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 8:50 pm, Brian Lloyd wrote: (I saw Toby had committed some things, and it looks like that merge is complete). Yes, that is complete -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] product refresh and random number generation.

2003-01-28 Thread Toby Dickenson
random number. self._p_changed = 1 return self.__random.random() -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2003-01-28 Thread Toby Dickenson
/patch/Zope261b.patch Thanks to everyone who has helped on this. This patch is in cvs ready for 2.6.1 beta 2. Please give the beta a good work out. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2003-01-27 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Sunday 26 January 2003 7:25 pm, Kazuya FUKAMACHI wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:33:40 + Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am currently looking at getting this into 2.6.1 or 2.6.2. I would appreciate confirmation that you are all happy with this combination of patches. Have

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1b2?

2003-01-27 Thread Toby Dickenson
schedule since December has been that this is imminent any day now. I have some important bug fixes that I would like to include in 2.6.1, and I would like some assurance that beta 2 will not be released mid-merge. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope reference counts

2003-01-22 Thread Toby Dickenson
in a way that lead to strange behavior. 2.6 is more predictable, and understandable. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope reference counts

2003-01-21 Thread Toby Dickenson
grows with the number of threads - is this true? yes Cheers I hope this helps -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Python compatibility

2003-01-14 Thread Toby Dickenson
that much easier. Im not sure thats true. Having less strict version requirements means that there will be *more* *people* doing the development, support, and bug fixing. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2003-01-14 Thread Toby Dickenson
confirmation that you are all happy with this combination of patches. thanks, -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
if I get enough positive feedback from people who actually use dtml-tree. (and a sufficently paranoid review would be nice too.) -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Zope-dev] zope and python compatibility

2003-01-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
2.2 -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope-dev] Python method wrapping around DTML method

2003-01-03 Thread Toby Dickenson
as { }, and it will be as good as any other. If you want an authentic ZPublisher namespace then you need http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/howto/FunctionTemplate -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-21 Thread Toby Dickenson
on my zope. Good work. This definitely looks viable for 2.6.2 -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Collector 697 should be critical!!!

2002-12-20 Thread Toby Dickenson
improvement would be one way to improve this. I think this would make a good fishbowl proposal -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-20 Thread Toby Dickenson
gratefully accepted. http://collector.zope.org/Zope/737 -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-20 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Friday 20 December 2002 2:22 pm, Kazuya FUKAMACHI wrote: if all of them are included in Zope 2.6.1. The final beta is due today. If that goes to plan then it is already too late. 2.6.2 is a realistic target. -- Toby Dickenson http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-10 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 12:03 am, Kazuya FUKAMACHI wrote: On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 13:18:26 -0800 Heiichiro NAKAMURA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Whenever any experimental enhancements to the ZMI which rely on using Unicode is to be integrated, create an new tab and put these features

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-10 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 09 December 2002 9:18 pm, Heiichiro NAKAMURA wrote: On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:13:16 + I agree with everything, except This is a tentative limitation on UI design, and should be removed after the Unicode Support gets matured enough to handle Unicode object with all

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-09 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 09 December 2002 2:20 am, Heiichiro NAKAMURA wrote: On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:58:16 + Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 05 December 2002 9:36 pm, Toby Dickenson wrote: Yes, I have an idea. I hope to find time to flesh it out early next week. I propose

Re: [Zope-dev] Non Bloating Page Counter

2002-12-08 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 8:33 am, Janko Hauser wrote: Just an idea from the 'could-be-done-if-needed-department'. Generally there is quite often the need to have non-undoable properties in different objects of a site. There is one way to store it in the temporary storage, which is ram

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-08 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 05 December 2002 9:36 pm, Toby Dickenson wrote: On Thursday 05 December 2002 8:41 pm, Heiichiro NAKAMURA wrote: Does anyone have any other idea for the Collector 623 issue? I hope better ideas will be posted.. Yes, I have an idea. I hope to find time to flesh it out early next

Re: [Zope-dev] bug day

2002-12-05 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 05 December 2002 5:14 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: Developers and any other interested parties should gather via IRC on the #zope-dev channel on irc.openprojects.net at the time and date above. I think its worth saying that the most important (IMO) outcome from the last two bugs

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-05 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 05 December 2002 8:41 pm, Heiichiro NAKAMURA wrote: Does anyone have any other idea for the Collector 623 issue? I hope better ideas will be posted.. Yes, I have an idea. I hope to find time to flesh it out early next week. ___

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-12-03 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 1:16 pm, Yusei TAHARA wrote: Hi. I made monkey patch for myself, when management_page_charset is not UTF-8, this patch remove :utf8: from non unicode type input field. because if input values are not latin-1, then unicode error raised. I think that

Re: [Zope-dev] Bugfix release?

2002-12-02 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Sunday 01 December 2002 3:36 pm, Brian Lloyd wrote: FYI I'd like to have a 2.6.1 beta out next week. Jeremy is still looking at a few ZODB bug reports - as soon as he's done we'll make the beta. Im not sure this is a good plan. Jeremy's sortKey changes look like they deserve a

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Collector 697 should be critical!!!

2002-12-02 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 02 December 2002 4:11 pm, Maik Jablonski wrote: I don't have much experience with the unicode-converters too... that's my problem for this issue...:-( I had seen this bug on the list, but hant spotted that it was a unicode-related. I will try to take a look sometime this week.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-11-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Saturday 30 November 2002 5:39 am, Yusei TAHARA wrote: 2. ustring can not join or replace to 8-bit strings other than ascii. Yes, it is painful to work in a mix of pre-encoded 8 bit strings and unicode strings. Thats why Zope's unicode policy was intended to be entirely optional - at least

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.6.0 ZMI Problem for CJK(Collector 623) patch.

2002-11-29 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Friday 29 November 2002 5:44 am, Yusei Tahara wrote: Hi. The right approach is to make it possible to change the title property to a unicode string. All my custom products have this already, but it is a deficiency in the standard Zope types such as 'Folder' that their titles type can

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] post-publishing hook

2002-11-29 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Friday 29 November 2002 12:07 pm, Carlo Giomini wrote: Dear all, I need a sort of post-publishing hook (so to say). I need Zope to call a function of mine as the very last action of publishing a request, i.e. after having built the response (and sent it to the browser possibly), but before

Re: [Zope-dev] Bugfix release?

2002-11-29 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 5:50 pm, Brian Lloyd wrote: FYI I'd like to have a 2.6.1 beta out next week. Jeremy is still looking at a few ZODB bug reports - as soon as he's done we'll make the beta. Im not sure this is a good plan. Jeremy's sortKey changes look like they deserve a longer

Re: [Zope-dev] consistent naming in ZEO releases

2002-11-25 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Monday 25 November 2002 2:03 pm, Andrew Sydelko wrote: You'll see that when I switched to ZEO 2.0 I had to change the URL. No doubt you had to change alot more too. This was a major release. Lots of things changed between ZEO 1 and ZEO 2. I think you picked a bad example; I agree it

Re: [Zope-dev] DB.close() needs to be called

2002-11-13 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 7:16 pm, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Looks like Toby's recent change to ApplicationManager.py causes DB.close() to never be called when you hit Shutdown in the Control Panel. Yes. This is a bad thing for the Berkeley storages because their .close() must get called or

Re: [Zope-dev] DB.close() needs to be called

2002-11-13 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 4:01 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: Maybe normal shutdown should manually call the shutdown signal handler function and normal restart should manually call the restart signal handler function? We are pretty close to that now, which I agree is a good thing. The

Re: [Zope-dev] DB.close() needs to be called

2002-11-13 Thread Toby Dickenson
(cc zodb-dev, who may also be interested) On Wednesday 13 November 2002 4:18 pm, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: TD == Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: worse part. If you've enable autopacking and you don't cleanly close the storage, you won't exit the process because

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] DB.close() needs to be called

2002-11-13 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 5:27 pm, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: Potentially yes, although the steps in the pack process are BerkeleyDB transactionally protected. I think the mark-and-sweep phases are examples of things that could take a long time. It should be possible to craft some escape

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