Tres Seaver wrote:
...
Ob. note: the performance characteristics of such servers (including
twisted) are not well understood in the context of Zope, until some
brave soul actually rolls out a high-volume production site and reports
success or failure.
I still agree with this. But I think it's
Jim Fulton wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
...
Ob. note: the performance characteristics of such servers (including
twisted) are not well understood in the context of Zope, until some
brave soul actually rolls out a high-volume production site and reports
success or failure.
Good point! It would
On Monday 12 December 2005 07:59, Tres Seaver wrote:
> If WSGI lives up to its promise, then the WSGI-compliant Z2-Z3 hybrid
> would be publishable as a "WSGI application" from any WSGI server,
> including perhaps mod_python-based servers.
Right, I think there have been success stories with mod-py
Tres Seaver wrote:
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Sidnei da Silva wrote:
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:18:05AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
| We should proceed by getting Z2 and Z3 to use a common
| publisher, presumingly based on the Z3 publisher. This common
| publisher should:
|
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Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:18:05AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> | We should proceed by getting Z2 and Z3 to use a common
> | publisher, presumingly based on the Z3 publisher. This common
> | publisher should:
> |
> | - Be well
On Friday 09 December 2005 04:21, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> > I do have a good feeling that the structures that will be provided by
> > the Zope Foundation will help us (not solve the problem on their own,
> > but be supportive).
>
> I don't think we neither need the ZF for this nor should
On Friday 09 December 2005 04:47, Christian Theune wrote:
> Additionally I think we should clean up the Zope 3 project area a bit
> and try harder to keep it up to date and manageable. This might include
> reducing the amount of information to be able to keep it up to date. I'm
> willing to put wor
On Friday 09 December 2005 04:47, Christian Theune wrote:
> At last I think we should try to continue having good documentation in
> the code that documents what is happening. This doesn't necessarily have
> to be doctests (good if it is) but provide some information for people
> who visit the code
On Friday 09 December 2005 04:47, Christian Theune wrote:
> I think this is two things: visibility and having more people look at
> large projects like the twisted integration. I think Stephan did a great
> Job (at least AFAIK he was the one doing the twisted integration,
> right?) but I haven't fo
On Friday 09 December 2005 04:21, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> Christian has an important point here: There was neither a proposal for
> the introduction of WSGI features, nor the zope.publisher refactoring
> nor the Twisted integration.
WSGI was implemented before we switched back to propos
Am Freitag, den 09.12.2005, 10:21 +0100 schrieb Philipp von
Weitershausen:
> I don't think we neither need the ZF for this nor should we need it. I
> think it has been understood by everyone that the ZF shouldn't dictate
> development issues. We have technical popes for that :).
Agreed. Although t
Christian Theune wrote:
> I think this is two things: visibility and having more people look at
> large projects like the twisted integration. I think Stephan did a great
> Job (at least AFAIK he was the one doing the twisted integration,
> right?) but I haven't found a single proposal about doing
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 08.12.2005, 13:51 -0500 schrieb Jim Fulton:
> > I'm also rather surprise about those MANY incompatibilities that haven't
> > been discussed and shall silently be accepted.
>
> Oh come on. Nobody is silently accepting anything.
You're right. I over-reacted here.
> > Righ
[Stephan Richter]
> ...
> Overall I agree with Jim on his comments. We have been extremely careful not
> to step on anyones toes and provide as smooth of a transition as possible.
Impending releases always create panic. Embrace it as an opportunity
for spreading joy ;-)
> We asked repeatedly for
Stephan Richter wrote:
On Thursday 08 December 2005 13:57, Jim Fulton wrote:
It has to be pretty discouraging to Stephan to get these sort of
complaints. That's just not fair.
I'll note that it is even more discouraging to Michael Kerrin, who put in a
hell of a lot of time to get this worki
On Thursday 08 December 2005 14:05, Jim Fulton wrote:
> The major change is that the response 'write' method is
> no longer supported. If that causes breakage of existing
> Zope 3 apps, then we can add it back. It was our judgement
> that it wasn't being used, so we dropped it.
And I remember us a
On Thursday 08 December 2005 13:57, Jim Fulton wrote:
> It has to be pretty discouraging to Stephan to get these sort of
> complaints. That's just not fair.
I'll note that it is even more discouraging to Michael Kerrin, who put in a
hell of a lot of time to get this working, specifically the FTP
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 02:05:55PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Paul Winkler wrote:
> >On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 07:31:56PM +0100, Christian Theune wrote:
> >
> >>- WSGI disallows response streams
> >
> >
> >It what???
> >Seriously? That's a showstopper for a lot of projects.
>
> Uh, what is the "it/
--On 8. Dezember 2005 13:57:10 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 8. Dezember 2005 11:47:10 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Yep. Nobody has complained to us about this yet. I personally do not
use ZEO, so I could not fix the issue anyways.
Paul Winkler wrote:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 07:31:56PM +0100, Christian Theune wrote:
- WSGI disallows response streams
It what???
Seriously? That's a showstopper for a lot of projects.
Uh, what is the "it/that" that you are talking about?
I have no idea what "WSGI disallows response stre
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 8. Dezember 2005 11:47:10 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Yep. Nobody has complained to us about this yet. I personally do not use
ZEO, so I could not fix the issue anyways.
If twisted and ZEO are incompatible, then twisted needs *never* to be
the d
Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 08.12.2005, 11:47 -0500 schrieb Tres Seaver:
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On Thursday 08 December 2005 08:29, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:18:49AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
| O
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Thursday 08 December 2005 08:29, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:18:49AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
| On Thursday 08 December 2005 07:06, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
| > Just one thing
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:25:21PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 07:31:56PM +0100, Christian Theune wrote:
> > - WSGI disallows response streams
>
> It what???
> Seriously? That's a showstopper for a lot of projects.
OK, no it doesn't: it's just different.
http://www.pytho
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 07:31:56PM +0100, Christian Theune wrote:
> - WSGI disallows response streams
It what???
Seriously? That's a showstopper for a lot of projects.
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Tres Seaver wrote:
>
> If twisted and ZEO are incompatible, then twisted needs *never* to be
> the default; ZEO is an essential part of Zope's "real world" story. I
> can't imagine even *developing* without ZEO, much less deploying
> applications in production.
>
>
> Tres.
> --
>
--On 8. Dezember 2005 11:47:10 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Yep. Nobody has complained to us about this yet. I personally do not use
ZEO, so I could not fix the issue anyways.
If twisted and ZEO are incompatible, then twisted needs *never* to be
the default; ZEO is an essen
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 08.12.2005, 11:47 -0500 schrieb Tres Seaver:
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> Stephan Richter wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 December 2005 08:29, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:18:49AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
> >>| On Thursd
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> On Thursday 08 December 2005 08:29, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
>
>>On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:18:49AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
>>| On Thursday 08 December 2005 07:06, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
>>| > Just one thing that struck me
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