Good luck with the Icarus thing.
The thing in this thread for me is the intriguing idea of a faded object
with outlines. Not sure what use it could ever be but I think it might be a
tickle to run some tests on.
And yep, Meats Meier is a name for sure.
Thanks for your efforts.
Neil Cooke
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From: "studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: How Do I render The Wireframe ?
Yep, I was going to suggest the materials library/constant/fade material
...
and set the level of fade for your foreground objects as you need but I
cant
test this for outlines. Also forced visibility for the background might
be
useful but again I am unable to test.
Neil Cooke
Yes , there is bound to be a nice workaround , maybe a
shader ... something that would be very usefull to any-
one trying to mix video with CGI , but I'll leave it for
those more inclined .
My time is currently being sucked out via the bleeding
edge of Icarus-to-Realsoft3D . First there's the Icarus
learning curve ... then the scene matching . So far it's
not in any way automatic at all but must be trailblazed .
Still , it looks doable and early tests look very pro-
mising . 'Meats' Meier is my inspiring artist who , years
ago with Icarus managed excellent comp's in Maya (via
Icarus's very friendly Maya scene export module) .
Now , his site say's he is using Boujou . Look at
Chrome Devils & iFilm Projector to see his older stuff
at the bottom of this page . http://tinyurl.com/yjut32
No "realsoft scene" export module in Icarus but it may
be possible to match data points seamlessly , manually
via RS3D's Icarus text-file import .
studio
>> Outline will wipe out background if you use the Black and White render
>> setting option. Perhaps if you try Reasonable Quality or Quality over
>> speed
>> ... and check the draw outline option in its render settings tab ...
>> maybe
>> the rest of the "reasonable quality" might hold anything else you
>> need.
>> Just
>> check the black outline and make sure the second box down is not
>> checked.
>> Neil Cooke
>
> Tried that too but it is the same as the built-in "Shaded with white
> outlines" . That is , it renders the object , then the outline . I
> need the object to be transparent , or not rendered at all )ex-
> cept the wireframe) .
>
> I'm sure it is possible with VSL , to create a material that
> renders wires, or Post-Processes the wireframe . There may even
> be some kind of workaround using the background image instead
> of the camera backdrop , but I can't create it or find any
> solution .
>
> Too bad . Being able to match wires to video is essential
> and the only way I can do that at the moment is to simply
> advance forward , one frame at a time and then do a manual
> screen grab .
>
> Which reminds me , didn't we have a 'Frame-Forward' control
> on the Animation Playback window ? I know we did in V3 , but
> I could have sworn I saw it in V4.5 too . Maybe there's a
> hotkey for that ?
>
> Thanks .
>
> studio
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> >> I don't know about wireframe rendering but wonder if simple outline
>> >> rendering would be enough. Hopefully you wont have too many sds
>> >> objects
>> >> or
>> >> if you do then maybe you can kill all their working lines with only
>> >> one
>> >> or
>> >> two identifiers.
>> >> Neil Cooke
>> >
>> > Thanks for the reply :
>> >
>> > I tried that but the render wipes out the very
>> > critical - camera backdrop image , which contains the
>> > movie I am trying to match the wireframes to .
>> >
>> > An OpenGL animation preview would be perfect , but
>> > it plays too fast for the graphic card to update the
>> > scene in OpenGL , so all I get is very blurry OpenGL
>> > animation preview renders . This is no good either .
>> >
>> > We should have a control for animation previews that
>> > allows us to have the scene rendered fully in OpenGL
>> > before the next frame advances (in my opinion) , same
>> > as a raytraced preview .
>> >
>> > On the subject of wireframes , for some reason I
>> > thought we had a handy "wireframe invisible" control
>> > somewhere on one of the horizontal toolbars (and a
>> > "Raytrace Invisible" one too) ?
>> >
>> > It's a pain to have to keep bring up property windows
>> > and then grabbing the proper tab to turn off WF visible
>> > and then to go back to the tab you were working with .
>> >
>> > Thought we had a toolbar shortcut ?
>> >
>> > Thanks .
>> >
>> > studio
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> > Greetings :
>> >> >
>> >> > In V3 we had a little control called "Render Wire"
>> >> > which was a simple method to render the wireframe of
>> >> > some objects . How do we do this in V5 ?
>> >> >
>> >> > I am trying to match the wireframe of objects in my
>> >> > scene with the imported Icarus camera data , to the
>> >> > imported movie I used in Icarus . I am close and now
>> >> > want to check accuracies with an animation WF test .
>> >> >
>> >> > The movie is now my camera backdrop and I have been
>> >> > attempting to render an animation which will combine
>> >> > the rendered wireframe with the backdrop image .
>> >> >
>> >> > No-go so far . The workaround method I used was to
>> >> > do an animation preview of the wireframes in OpenGL
>> >> > and then do a rendered anim of the backdrop movie and
>> >> > then combine them in Post Processing on the 3rd pass .
>> >> >
>> >> > Can anyone think of a better/faster workaround ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks .
>> >> >
>> >> > studio
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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