Re: SV: [hlds_linux] AMD64
I am running a 10 slot server on a p-4 1.4 w/384 megs ram using hlguard with all options on, adminmod, and steambans. I run all custom maps and cpu usage averages 45% [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disable Statsme and use AMXMOD-integrated stats. Using HLGuard with all options activated will kill every server ;) Most important: are using 64-bit-binaries? I'm running another 64bit machine but only with a 32bit linux and cpu usage is real high... hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am 02.05.05 12:31:38: Im running 2x16 slots with amxmod, statsme and hlguard. But it consumes about 100% cpu when they are full.. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen Teknisk ansvarlig for NovaNett avd. CS e-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobil: 45 44 21 88 -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:12 PM Til: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Emne: Re: [hlds_linux] AMD64 I'm currently running 3 x 14 slots on an AMD64 2800+ with 768MB RAM. Each of them giving max 20% cpu usage using AMXX 1.01 as plugin and running fun maps! hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am 02.05.05 12:08:37: How many 12player servers can AMD64 3000+ run, if they are all full? Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen Teknisk ansvarlig for NovaNett avd. CS e-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobil: 45 44 21 88 -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Scott Pettit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:50 AM Til: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Emne: Re: [hlds_linux] celeron questions Adrien wrote: And what do you think about P4 and Xeon CPU ? Is their a big difference between them ? How servers can i run with 12 players on CS 1.6 or CS:S on them ? Adrien CPU usage reported by top was around the 30%-40% mark with 16 players. The celerons afaik are just P4's with small caches, so they should perform the same in terms of CPU usage, it's just the fact that less instructions can be put in the cache with a Celeron that makes them icky. P4 and Xeon I've never compared as I don't own any Xeons, only P4's. Xeon IMO is overkill for a gameserver though, I personally think it's more economical to buy a heap of desktop grade machines because with the way gameservers constantly need faster CPU's and more RAM, it's cheaper just to replace the machines every year or so. You should get about 2 maybe 3 12 player servers on a P4. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Einmalig und brandneu bei Oekoprinz: DSL mit kostenlosem Dell PC und Farbdrucker Superschnelles DSL mit: - Top ausgestatteten Dell PC - Farbdrucker und - Komplett-Set zum kostenlosen Telefonieren im Internet. http://www.oekoprinz.de/OekoContent/528/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Einmalig und brandneu bei Oekoprinz: DSL mit kostenlosem Dell PC und Farbdrucker Superschnelles DSL mit: - Top ausgestatteten Dell PC - Farbdrucker und - Komplett-Set zum kostenlosen Telefonieren im Internet. http://www.oekoprinz.de/OekoContent/528/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer House Calls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com What businesses are in Brunswick, Maryland? Check Brunswick First! http://www.checkbrunswickfirst.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS Memory requrements
hlds leaks. I run a machine with 384 megs of ram. it starts out at 55-60 megs and over the course of 2-7 days can grow to 250 megs plus Ben Watts wrote: Can anyone tell me the memory requirements for HLDS? I'm planning to set up a CSS server on a hosted virtual linux server, so i'll be paying for each additional 64Mb of physical memory. Searching though the list archive, i've found brief mention of anywhere from 55Mb to 300Mb memory usage - possibly depending on client load or level size? I'm looking to run a server for 10 clients. Thanks in advance, Ben. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- Computer House Calls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com What businesses are in Brunswick, Maryland? Check Brunswick First! http://www.checkbrunswickfirst.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike Linux server keeps crashing
intersting. I run hlguard with everything turned on without issues. rawcsserver wrote: We have Hlguard to check from hack scripts, nothing else. Wall hack block laggs the server, aimbot detection crashes the server. So much for hlguard - Original Message - From: Marcel Beringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike Linux server keeps crashing I took out HLGuard, now it seems stable for the last 8 hours ! On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, William Warren wrote: I had horrible random crashes. The issue was the CS 1.6 server itself. for a while it just was not stable. I finally had to blow it out and rebuild it from scratch in order for it to stabilize. I run Adminmod, HlGuard, and MetaMod on CentOS-4. Martin Zwickel wrote: -- On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:54:27 +0200 (CEST) Marcel Beringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] bubbled: Hi Tom, Metamod 1.17.4 HLGuard 1.72 AMX Mod X 1.01 All 64 bit versions. Gr, Marcel Hi! Well, I also had some troubles with AMXModX/Metamod (but 32bit version). My server also crashed sporadically. Then I upgraded my Metamod plugin to version MetaMod 1.17.4p21 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/axh/#metamod_p) and reinstalled AMXModX from scratch. That helped... But I still don't know exactly what was the cause. And I haven't installed HLGuard. Regards, Martin -- MyExcuse: Your Pentium has a heating problem - try cooling it with ice cold water.(Do not turn of your computer, you do not want to cool down the Pentium Chip while he isn't working, do you?) Martin Zwickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Development TechnoTrend AG http://www.technotrend.de -- [ Content of type application/pgp-signature deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike Linux server keeps crashing
I had horrible random crashes. The issue was the CS 1.6 server itself. for a while it just was not stable. I finally had to blow it out and rebuild it from scratch in order for it to stabilize. I run Adminmod, HlGuard, and MetaMod on CentOS-4. Martin Zwickel wrote: -- On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:54:27 +0200 (CEST) Marcel Beringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] bubbled: Hi Tom, Metamod 1.17.4 HLGuard 1.72 AMX Mod X 1.01 All 64 bit versions. Gr, Marcel Hi! Well, I also had some troubles with AMXModX/Metamod (but 32bit version). My server also crashed sporadically. Then I upgraded my Metamod plugin to version MetaMod 1.17.4p21 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/axh/#metamod_p) and reinstalled AMXModX from scratch. That helped... But I still don't know exactly what was the cause. And I haven't installed HLGuard. Regards, Martin -- MyExcuse: Your Pentium has a heating problem - try cooling it with ice cold water.(Do not turn of your computer, you do not want to cool down the Pentium Chip while he isn't working, do you?) Martin Zwickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Development TechnoTrend AG http://www.technotrend.de -- [ Content of type application/pgp-signature deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike Linux server keeps crashing
mine is a p-4 Phoenix wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have a HL2DM server also running Linux that has been crashing every hour since the last update. Really weird, it restarts at 15 passed every hour. I believe it is also on a amd system. I will find out for sure though. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Memory leaks in srcds?
Which kernel are you using? 2.4.x has that paging issue. 2.6.x is much better and you can really throttle paging usage on both if you want to..:) David Hershey wrote: My problem with this behavior isn't so much that there is high mem usage as it is when half the srcds executable image is being paged out when nothing else demanding is running. As you can imagine, this creates a somewhat unfavorable playing experience, and the only solution I've found so far is to reboot after a day or so. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Re: [hlds] Now have 850 banned Steam ID's from crash cheat abusive players
have you considered working with steambans.com?? wArgOd wrote: cross posting to hlds_linux for interested linux admins not monitoring hlds FYI http://www.theradianteye.com/p00pernickel_steamid.htm; is a bad link. i don't know where that came from. theradianteye.com is one of my web properties. However. I will combine your 850 list and add the set of steamid's culled from the log analysis that nabbed a bunch of myg0ts and other newly detected cheaters and will update my list at http://www.theradianteye.com/banned_user.txt (mirrored at http://70.85.25.116/banned_user.txt) later today. I will create a dedicated page for this showing the date/time of last update. In the near future I will host a web service for on-demand pulls and subscriber notification services. another project i am working on is a public near-real-time log parsing web services that will accept logging from CSS servers and return updated ban lists. I have a ways to go on this one because the hueristics need time to learn and lower the margin of error to a reasonable level . Another component of this effort is a remote server admin system deployed as web pages for both standard browsers and windows mobile smart phone users. (the smart phone thing will allow you to look busy in those snoozer meetings while you admin your servers. a must have... lol...) Mikee wrote: Another update. I took the bans from this Steam Forums post http://tinyurl.com/6f9er and also the bans I had at my three servers, in addition to those that various players gave to me that I trust. I then added those from several admins who have contacted me from this HLDS Server Email list, and from these two additional sites which I believe are also reliable: http://www.theradianteye.com/p00pernickel_steamid.htm http://tinyurl.com/3qoqo I manually took out any duplicates, and updated my banned_users.cfg file so it now has 850 bans. This is being shared with as many server admins as possible, and more are being added all the time. I started today with 350 bans. Get the ban list of 850 Steam ID's here: http://www.kain-9.com/server/banned_user.cfg and let me know if you know of more legitimate bans. This problem is still not fixed by Valve for HL2, although there was a plugin that was independently developed which seems to have resolved my servers crashing so far. In any case, the more players realize they will be permanently banned by a large network of server admins, the more effective we will be on our own. This is probably the most intelligent use of this HLDS list that I can think of. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] log parsing reveals myg0t addys steamid's plus hax users
Is mani just for source or can 1.6 benefit from it as well? Also how do i find mani? wArgOd wrote: all true but the evidence in my logs suggest the higher level myg0ts know this and get around it via other means. but i do use mani and am grateful for the plugin. alt 160? what about alt-255 and a zillion other unicode possibilities. frankly i dislike the unicode name characters. they gom up my logs and databases with unreadable junk and make it next to impossible to figure out which is which when they all enter with nearly identical name strings. Chris Jones wrote: Thanks for the data. I've found another useful thing to do, if you run Mani, is add to the autoban player name list myg0t, m?g0t (where ? is that unicode character that looks like a devil face.. hard to describe :), and the ALT-0160 fake space (use for NOTHING but causing trouble -- valve, please consider removing this). Nips a lot of trouble-makers fun right in the bud. I've also added various racist terms (which we all know well, I'm sure) to the autoban list. I'm not sure how anyone runs a pub without Mani. With spam protection, autobans, cheat cvar detection, anti-TK functionality, and word filtering, it makes me wonder why they don't just recruit him as a contractor to fix this beta-quality engine. Original message from wArgOd: Now here is a little present for anyone that doesn't like myg0t How about a set of confirmed myg0t member's IP addresses? And a bunch more ***tard myg0t downloaders too... the records with an IP address are confirmed myg0t members based on data in my logs. the records without IP addys are ***tards that were using the name-changer hax. (obsolete detection now thanks to VALVe's awsome efforts) http://www.theradianteye.com/myg0t_steamid.htm oh yea baby, the logs don't lie and my log parser system is coming up to speed. When I release this thing it will spell [EMAIL PROTECTED]*@ doom for myg0ts (and hackers) everywhere! Enjoy! More to follow. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Chris ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] log parsing reveals myg0t addys steamid's plus hax users
much abliged cookypuss wrote: how do i find mani? http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/forums/portal.php ~cooky ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Computer Housecalls, Networks, Security, Web Design: http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July
If the UN wants control of the INET WE invented. Let them build their own. Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: My favorite quote(s) from this very brief article: Right now, the most recognizable Internet governance body is a California-based non-profit company, the International Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). But developing countries want an international body, such as the U.N.'s International Telecommunication Union (ITU), to have control over governance -- from distributing Web site domains to fighting spam. http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=internetNewsstoryID=2005-02-21T171326Z_01_N21644703_RTRIDST_0_NET-TECH-UN-DC.XML - ferg -- Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/
Re: [hlds_linux] AMD Sempron
The sempron is a throttled version of an xp(or an athlon64). A sempron 2800 theoretically is not going to have the same amount of computational power due to the reduced cache. That being said i do not know how cpu cache dependent the hlds process is so it might be able to and might not. My bets are on the negative. ranger wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] hi, i know..here are many threads about cpu usage..low fps etc. My question is, if the AMD Sempron 2800+ /1GB-RAM/256kb Cache can be comparable with an Athlon XP 2800+ Barton/1GB-RAM/512 kb Cache ? I run 3x 1.6 Server without on the Barton, but will the Sempron also handle so much Slots 1.6? thx the CPU Usage with the Barton is 10-20% for each CS 1.6 Server. Maximum for all full servers is 70% -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
athlon64=modified opteron. Nathan Marcus wrote: The opteron alone is amazing, no questions asked in a real time environment. I myself would like to try an Athon 64 in a server, because as another person said, it ran laps around the xeons. Only downside is opterons might* be a tad hotter than xeons, but hey, they do more work! And if you go Dual Op.. Dew Opp, Dew Opp, Dew Opp! Shiggita shiggita shiggita BOOM! (where did that come from?). - Original Message - From: Kingsley Foreman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron opteron all the way. I have both, opterons leave the xeons for dust Kingsley - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server FPS
for 1.6 simply type stats into the console Chris Jones wrote: I'm trying to figure out if changes to fps_max is having any effect. Is there any way with linux srcds server to tell what the current server fps is? Doesn't seem to be a cvar or command.. find fps fps_max = 300 - Frame rate limiter -- Chris ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Memory leak
wow..i have to restart my two server every few days or the memory usage quickly gets out of control. hondaman wrote: Is it safe to ignore these memory issues too? PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 21799 cstrike 15 0 271m 200m 8308 S 16.6 6.8 496:25.43 srcds_amd_css2 3864 cstrike 16 0 348m 277m 8308 S 16.0 9.4 525:38.58 srcds_amd_css4 16767 cstrike 15 0 618m 546m 8308 S 11.0 18.5 1529:22 srcds_amd_css6 2723 cstrike 15 0 431m 363m 8292 S 6.3 12.3 343:50.76 srcds_amd_css7 16713 cstrike 16 0 321m 253m 8304 S 0.7 8.6 524:24.93 srcds_amd_css3 16886 cstrike 16 0 158m 89m 8280 S 0.7 3.0 48:14.18 srcds_amd_css8 500 cstrike 15 0 219m 147m 8304 S 0.7 5.0 327:58.22 srcds_amd_css1 The Fool wrote: Alfred, is this a separate process? :)) Leak protection v1.0? :DDD (I'm not blaming you, on my jobsite we do the same /if it is.../ ;) You can ignore it. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of InspectorGifts Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:05 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Memory leak This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] L 02/08/2005 - 23:01:40: server_message: restart File /home/---/hlds_source/hl2/NavPlace.db was never closed File /home/---/hlds_source/hl2/NavPlace.db was never closed Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 55 Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 423 This mean anything? It happened on server restart. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Could not get VAC to working
1.5? I hope you meant 1.6 and mistyped. NOt that Vac is any better on 1.6. VAC right now has not been updated in minths. Sergejs Afanajevs wrote: Helo i have cs 1.5 server instaled on my server. I try to set up vac but it not working?My server is localted on linux router,after router is windows client and on this pc i can set up windows dedicated server with working vac.On linux box i have all ports open,start server from user root,and folder permision 777..but vac not working..I copy file walvecom.lst from my working server to linux but - again not working..plzz help --- http://www.one.lv - Tavs mobilais e-pasts! Tagad lasi savu e-pastu ar mobilo telefonu - wap.one.lv! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Could not get VAC to working
rofl! richy wrote: William Warren wrote: 1.5? I hope you meant 1.6 and mistyped. NOt that Vac is any better on 1.6. VAC right now has not been updated in minths. Sergejs Afanajevs wrote: Helo i have cs 1.5 server instaled on my server. I try to set up vac but it not working?My server is localted on linux router,after router is windows client and on this pc i can set up windows dedicated server with working vac.On linux box i have all ports open,start server from user root,and folder permision 777..but vac not working..I copy file walvecom.lst from my working server to linux but - again not working..plzz help --- http://www.one.lv - Tavs mobilais e-pasts! Tagad lasi savu e-pastu ar mobilo telefonu - wap.one.lv! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Minths i hope you meant Months. Your spell checker hasnt been updated in yaers. :p ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] random crashes
here is something the application throws when it crashes: ./hlds_run: line 423: 4477 Segmentation fault (core dumped) $HL_CMD BTW i have just changed hdd's and reloaded the computer from scratch. I ran a 8 hour stress test on the entire system and it passed so i am not sure it is hardware. Any ideas? William Warren wrote: -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:23:58 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:53:25 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 18:56:47 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:20:19 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:24:14 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:31:51 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- here is the startup argument i am using: screen -A -m -d -S hlds ./hlds_run -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser -steampass Any ideas? This is a p-4 1.4 ghz machine running CentOS 3.4 w/384 megs of pc-800 on a dedicated 4.3 gig hdd. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman
Re: [hlds_linux] random crashes
This is a freshly reloaded system with a new hdd: ./hlds_run: line 423: 4844 Segmentation fault (core dumped) $HL_CMD Cannot access memory at address 0xb75fe700 Cannot access memory at address 0xbfffebb0 debug.cmds:3: Error in sourced command file: Cannot access memory at address 0xb75fe700 email debug.log to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 26 21:24:48 EST 2005: Server restart --- -- CRASH: Wed Jan 26 21:24:48 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser *** -steampass *** -pidfile hlds.4830.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3a9baab in ?? () #0 0xb3a9baab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- William Warren wrote: here is something the application throws when it crashes: ./hlds_run: line 423: 4477 Segmentation fault (core dumped) $HL_CMD BTW i have just changed hdd's and reloaded the computer from scratch. I ran a 8 hour stress test on the entire system and it passed so i am not sure it is hardware. Any ideas? William Warren wrote: -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] random crashes
Well the steam hlds has started randomaly crashing again. -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:23:58 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:53:25 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 18:56:47 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:20:19 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:24:14 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:31:51 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- here is the startup argument i am using: screen -A -m -d -S hlds ./hlds_run -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser -steampass Any ideas? This is a p-4 1.4 ghz machine running CentOS 3.4 w/384 megs of pc-800 on a dedicated 4.3 gig hdd. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] random crashes
also the crashes mostly occur when the server is automatically changing maps per the mapcycle.txt file. Manual changes do not usually invoke a crash William Warren wrote: Well the steam hlds has started randomaly crashing again. -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:23:58 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:53:25 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 18:56:47 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:20:19 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:24:14 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:31:51 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- here is the startup argument i am using: screen -A -m -d -S hlds ./hlds_run -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser -steampass Any ideas? This is a p-4 1.4 ghz machine running CentOS 3.4 w/384 megs of pc-800 on a dedicated 4.3 gig hdd. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall
Re: [hlds_linux] random crashes
The crashing has accelerated now. It is now crashing int he middle of rounds. Reinstlaling has not helped. I have deleted the whole contents and reinstalled to no avail. This is the only application that is having this issue. Any ideas Vavle? William Warren wrote: also the crashes mostly occur when the server is automatically changing maps per the mapcycle.txt file. Manual changes do not usually invoke a crash William Warren wrote: Well the steam hlds has started randomaly crashing again. -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:23:58 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 17:53:25 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 18:56:47 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:20:19 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:24:14 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Tue Jan 25 19:31:51 EST 2005 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser * -steampass * -pidfile hlds.1560.pid Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb3ab in ?? () #0 0xb3ab in ?? () No symbol table info available. End of crash report -- here is the startup argument i am using: screen -A -m -d -S hlds ./hlds_run -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser -steampass Any ideas? This is a p-4 1.4 ghz machine running CentOS 3.4 w/384 megs of pc-800 on a dedicated 4.3 gig hdd. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org
Re: panix.com hijacked
actually godaddy has been quite reponsive for me @ 3am before. Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote: Howdy Perry, Alexis Rosen of Panix was on the phone earlier today with the company attorney for melbourneit -- reputedly he was informed that even if the police called, they would not do anything about the problem until Monday their time. (a) I don't know MIT's attorney, and (b) I wouldn't ever call him or her when I could reach someone I know, and (c) what would you expect an attorney to say? Alexis is a bit on the upset side, naturally -- his company is in serious trouble because of very obvious fraud, and waiting a few days isn't really something he can afford to do. (If you look at the whois records now in place for panix.com they're pretty clearly the result of fraudulent activity. There is a pretty clear attempt there to maximally obscure who has stolen the domain name -- this is clearly not an innocent mistake.) Yeah, but, home truths. There are registrars who will get out of bed at night for a customer, and registrars who could give a shit if hell froze. Just like ISPs and LEOs, neh? Picking a registrar with a market share in the top 10 means that you get 1/share's worth of attention, which means 1/1488700 of Dotster's attention (using 1/15 daily market share graph). Now, was that at the NetSol $35/yr price point for customer care, or the GoDaddy $6.95/yr price point for customer care. I suppose everyone thinks that it (for some value of it) can't happen to them, and that if it does, a wicked small amount of money will still do more than the oil that lights the lamps at Hanukkah, because bad acts are rare and all the dimes pile up into a shared fate insurance fund. Well, now I'm really going to bed. Eric -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/
[hlds_linux] auth issues
I just created a new steam account for an NS server we want to run. I created the account and it was accepted. When i try to run the update command via /.steam i get the username does not exist or the password is wrong. Is steam having auth issues? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Bodies froim the sky?
Steam did not like the password i was using for some reason. I created another account with a different pass . shrug The Fool wrote: C'mon ;) I had that happen once in the 60's, I think it was the LSD. :-D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Tilson Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:22 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Bodies froim the sky? Since the update there are these strange 5 to 10 second freezes that end with a pile of bodies falling on you. Strange. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] unable to log in
I am now getting the following error thrown by hlds linux on FC2 Loing ahs expired, Please use password here is the argument i am using: screen -A -m -d -S ns ./hlds_run -game ns +ip 69.44.156.72 +port 27020 +maxplayers 13 +map co_angst -autoupdate -username removed -password removed I have also tried it w/o screen and get the same error. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] bypassing weapon restrictions
this is a cs 1.6 srever The Fool wrote: That's right. RTFM :). There you go: http://qoda.net/cssource/minimumadmin/doc/ Linux version is 1.0.0.20, beside of the newest win version which is 1.0.0.21. And -another bad news- it's pretty buggy. But it won't kill the server (after 1hr of testing) at last... and weapon restriction works fine (even to restrict map by map, not just in common, e.g. restrict awp only on aztec...) I think your best bet will be to check the admin mod website for more info on specifics. Just to let you know the admin mod I use has a default.cfg file and within that the cvar is Autobuying 0 I doubt that would be any use to you as i'm using source but i'm sure there is the info available on the mod site. never used it.. but i know amxmodx will work... im not sure if there has been any updates to adminmod since autobuys were added, so you might just be out of luck... On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:03:09 -0500, William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am using adminmod...is there a server cvar i can just change? Elmer Fudd wrote: 1. hes talking 1.6, not source 2. amxmodx's weapon restriction plugin disables autobuy On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:14:34 -0500, William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok how do i disallow autobuys? BoNfiRe wrote: - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] bypassing weapon restrictions It may be because you allow auto buy which will bypass the restriction. I have the awp restricted from use by both sides. I know on maps where the awp is lying on the ground it is usable. I have users however using autobuys that can buy the weapon on maps like de_747. How are they able to get by the weapon restriction? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Cheers! -- Elmer Fudd ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Cheers! -- Elmer Fudd ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] bypassing weapon restrictions
I have the awp restricted from use by both sides. I know on maps where the awp is lying on the ground it is usable. I have users however using autobuys that can buy the weapon on maps like de_747. How are they able to get by the weapon restriction? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] bypassing weapon restrictions
ok how do i disallow autobuys? BoNfiRe wrote: - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] bypassing weapon restrictions It may be because you allow auto buy which will bypass the restriction. I have the awp restricted from use by both sides. I know on maps where the awp is lying on the ground it is usable. I have users however using autobuys that can buy the weapon on maps like de_747. How are they able to get by the weapon restriction? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] bypassing weapon restrictions
i am using adminmod...is there a server cvar i can just change? Elmer Fudd wrote: 1. hes talking 1.6, not source 2. amxmodx's weapon restriction plugin disables autobuy On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:14:34 -0500, William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok how do i disallow autobuys? BoNfiRe wrote: - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] bypassing weapon restrictions It may be because you allow auto buy which will bypass the restriction. I have the awp restricted from use by both sides. I know on maps where the awp is lying on the ground it is usable. I have users however using autobuys that can buy the weapon on maps like de_747. How are they able to get by the weapon restriction? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Cheers! -- Elmer Fudd ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Weird behavior from hlds 1.6
This is a machine running fedora core 2 with all updates. Athlon xp 3000+ and i gig of ram here is what goes on: For some reason running screen makes the system startup one instance..then after a minute or two a shadow instance shows up. This makes the memory usage grow out of control and makes the clients get that flood of UNPARSEABLE FIELD TYPE 0 entries in their consoles. I have tried screen in every way i know how and the servers continue to ghost. I have seen this with cs main and private. What is stupid is this is not occurring on my RHEL clone. Any ideas on why this ghosting is occurring? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
i already have it at 1 m0gely wrote: William Warren wrote: thing is though. It sits for up to a minute before it attempts to hit the hdd..once it starts accessing the hdd it changes within a second. My p-2 350 changed maps faster than this machine is..that is what has me scratching my head. mp_chattime 5 whereas 5 is time in seconds. This is the delay between maps. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
So it is not autonomous? Interesting. our other cs server changes within a few seconds. From what i see you saying that is either a fluke..or the 20 clients are impatient enough to nudge the server every map change. Now that is strange. Maarten van der Zwaart wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 08:30:50PM -0800, m0gely wrote: William Warren wrote: thing is though. It sits for up to a minute before it attempts to hit the hdd..once it starts accessing the hdd it changes within a second. My p-2 350 changed maps faster than this machine is..that is what has me scratching my head. mp_chattime 5 whereas 5 is time in seconds. This is the delay between maps. That is the minimum time before the map changes. If the server is empty it waits 2 minutes. Same thing if nobody does anything after the map ends. I'm not sure what clients need to do, but hitting the +attack button seems to work at least. I think only one player has to do this, but it might wait for more, this is probably in the SDK code, if anyone really wants to know. Maarten -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
so is there anyway to cvar to force the server to instantly change the maps instead of it ignoring the mp_chattime which it apparently does? OoksServer wrote: I always hammer the mouse at map change to force the map change. Otherwise it sits there for a minute or two. I think what he is observing is normal. If no one touches a mouse or keyboard, it should just sit there for a while before changing map. However, if players are hitting mouse and keyboard and nothing is happening for a minute or two, then there is a problem. And I second the old hardware not causing the problem. I'm running off of an old 3GB Maxtor, and map changes take just seconds. It was fast changing maps even on my old PIII/800 with an antique 2GB Maxtor. - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6 So it is not autonomous? Interesting. our other cs server changes within a few seconds. From what i see you saying that is either a fluke..or the 20 clients are impatient enough to nudge the server every map change. Now that is strange. Maarten van der Zwaart wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 08:30:50PM -0800, m0gely wrote: William Warren wrote: thing is though. It sits for up to a minute before it attempts to hit the hdd..once it starts accessing the hdd it changes within a second. My p-2 350 changed maps faster than this machine is..that is what has me scratching my head. mp_chattime 5 whereas 5 is time in seconds. This is the delay between maps. That is the minimum time before the map changes. If the server is empty it waits 2 minutes. Same thing if nobody does anything after the map ends. I'm not sure what clients need to do, but hitting the +attack button seems to work at least. I think only one player has to do this, but it might wait for more, this is probably in the SDK code, if anyone really wants to know. Maarten -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
After changing hdd's and reformatting the server and reloading it from scratch i now get this error upon auto map change: changelevel failed: 'hldm1' not found on server. googling shows cries for help but i ahve yet to find a solution. Any ideas? William Warren wrote: so is there anyway to cvar to force the server to instantly change the maps instead of it ignoring the mp_chattime which it apparently does? OoksServer wrote: I always hammer the mouse at map change to force the map change. Otherwise it sits there for a minute or two. I think what he is observing is normal. If no one touches a mouse or keyboard, it should just sit there for a while before changing map. However, if players are hitting mouse and keyboard and nothing is happening for a minute or two, then there is a problem. And I second the old hardware not causing the problem. I'm running off of an old 3GB Maxtor, and map changes take just seconds. It was fast changing maps even on my old PIII/800 with an antique 2GB Maxtor. - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6 So it is not autonomous? Interesting. our other cs server changes within a few seconds. From what i see you saying that is either a fluke..or the 20 clients are impatient enough to nudge the server every map change. Now that is strange. Maarten van der Zwaart wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 08:30:50PM -0800, m0gely wrote: William Warren wrote: thing is though. It sits for up to a minute before it attempts to hit the hdd..once it starts accessing the hdd it changes within a second. My p-2 350 changed maps faster than this machine is..that is what has me scratching my head. mp_chattime 5 whereas 5 is time in seconds. This is the delay between maps. That is the minimum time before the map changes. If the server is empty it waits 2 minutes. Same thing if nobody does anything after the map ends. I'm not sure what clients need to do, but hitting the +attack button seems to work at least. I think only one player has to do this, but it might wait for more, this is probably in the SDK code, if anyone really wants to know. Maarten -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
i deleted then recreated my mapcycle.txt file from scratch. The error still persists. William Warren wrote: so is there anyway to cvar to force the server to instantly change the maps instead of it ignoring the mp_chattime which it apparently does? OoksServer wrote: I always hammer the mouse at map change to force the map change. Otherwise it sits there for a minute or two. I think what he is observing is normal. If no one touches a mouse or keyboard, it should just sit there for a while before changing map. However, if players are hitting mouse and keyboard and nothing is happening for a minute or two, then there is a problem. And I second the old hardware not causing the problem. I'm running off of an old 3GB Maxtor, and map changes take just seconds. It was fast changing maps even on my old PIII/800 with an antique 2GB Maxtor. - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6 So it is not autonomous? Interesting. our other cs server changes within a few seconds. From what i see you saying that is either a fluke..or the 20 clients are impatient enough to nudge the server every map change. Now that is strange. Maarten van der Zwaart wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 08:30:50PM -0800, m0gely wrote: William Warren wrote: thing is though. It sits for up to a minute before it attempts to hit the hdd..once it starts accessing the hdd it changes within a second. My p-2 350 changed maps faster than this machine is..that is what has me scratching my head. mp_chattime 5 whereas 5 is time in seconds. This is the delay between maps. That is the minimum time before the map changes. If the server is empty it waits 2 minutes. Same thing if nobody does anything after the map ends. I'm not sure what clients need to do, but hitting the +attack button seems to work at least. I think only one player has to do this, but it might wait for more, this is probably in the SDK code, if anyone really wants to know. Maarten -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
what is +attack? is the the primary fire button? Eric (Deacon) wrote: In a bold display of creativity, William Warren wrote: so is there anyway to cvar to force the server to instantly change the maps instead of it ignoring the mp_chattime which it apparently does? Just a bit of anecdotal deduction, here, but it sounds like mp_chattime functionally sets the minimum time for people to chat, not the maximum amount of time before it starts loading the next map. So if you set mp_chattime to 5, it doesn't mean the map will necessarily start changing 5 seconds after the last round's end, but rather that it will allow players a minimum of 5 seconds to chat about the round before it will allow player input to trigger the changing of maps. It seems like it really does take an active input from a player (i.e. +attack) to trigger the map change to take place, at least until it hits the built-in 2 minutes limit. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] useful anti-cheat tool alternatives?
UA has released a new C-D have you evaluated that one yet? mercury wrote: Hello dear readers of the hlds_linux mailing list, dear VALVe Employees, I just wanted to ask if anybody out there knows any anti-cheat tool for Counter-Strike 1.6 which is usefully working at the moment. As we all know, VAC is outdated since several months and CD has been hacked lately. At the moment, there is no way of realizing a fair competition regarding CS games. Both mainstream anti-cheat tools, VAC and CD are not worth a penny right now. Some days ago, when things regarding this CD - Crack went public we (the ESL, the biggest european online gaming league) decided to stop all our Counter-Strike Ladders. And this is not something we like to do very often. Read more here if interested: http://www.esl-europe.net/eu/news/9661/ http://www.steambans.com/news.php?id=1267 Please dont get me wrong, i am not trying to sound important here. But i have to reach as many people as i can to try to find some information about other possible, not much-known alternatives to prevent cheating. The situation regarding cheats today is even worse than it was some months ago. And it wont get any better. If you know any tool which might be useful at the moment, please report it to me. You may even contact me directly if you can help in any way. We are definately interested in any way of cooperation for anything that you might provide that can help us all. Please dont let cheating prevail. -- Best regards, mercurymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ESL Master League Admin Counter-Strike Germany counter-strike.de Editor Server Administrator ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
I have a cs server w/ MM, AM, HLG, and steambans running. Even without the plugins though i see this problem. Sometimes the server takes up to a minute to change maps. I have mp_chattime set to 1. How can i make the server change maps faster? p-4 1.4 ghz running CentOS 3.3(RHEL 3 As clone). 384 megs pc-800(250 megs free at all times) and a 4 gig drive for the server drive(of which 800 megs are free). William -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] long map changes on cs 1.6
thing is though. It sits for up to a minute before it attempts to hit the hdd..once it starts accessing the hdd it changes within a second. My p-2 350 changed maps faster than this machine is..that is what has me scratching my head. Richard Fennell wrote: William Warren wrote: I have a cs server w/ MM, AM, HLG, and steambans running. Even without the plugins though i see this problem. Sometimes the server takes up to a minute to change maps. I have mp_chattime set to 1. How can i make the server change maps faster? p-4 1.4 ghz running CentOS 3.3(RHEL 3 As clone). 384 megs pc-800(250 megs free at all times) and a 4 gig drive for the server drive(of which 800 megs are free). William -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux 4 gig drive will be slow due to age, also memory speed is a concern. Sounds like its a hardware problem that you wont get around. Might be able to tune your hdd in linux to run faster or upgrade to a better spec PC. Rgds Richy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] specifying x86 architectures
On my server hlds defaults to i686, how can i make it use i486 or even i386? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] specifying x86 architectures
thanks. Lumpy wrote: ./hlds_run -binary ./hlds_i486 or of course ./srcds_run -binary ./srcds_i486 in the case of a source server. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] i finally got an error thrown
AFter removing all the hlds base files execpt for my custom maps the error has now changed I am not specifying a pidfile in my startup arguments..so why is hlds putting it in there? -- CRASH: Thu Dec 30 22:27:20 EST 2004 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser *** -steampass ** -pidfile hlds.7474.pid End of crash report -- -- CRASH: Fri Dec 31 09:05:23 EST 2004 Start Line: ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -debug +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupdate +map cs_tiki -steamuser *** -steampass *** -pidfile hlds.7474.pid End of crash report -- William Warren wrote: My hlds server randomly crashes. to reiterate this is a p-4 1.4 ghz with 384 megs of pc-800. 250 plus is free at all times. I finally was able to capture this folowing error: ./hlds_run: line 423: 5450 Segmentation fault $HL_CMD any ideas? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] i finally got an error thrown
My hlds server randomly crashes. to reiterate this is a p-4 1.4 ghz with 384 megs of pc-800. 250 plus is free at all times. I finally was able to capture this folowing error: ./hlds_run: line 423: 5450 Segmentation fault $HL_CMD any ideas? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] i finally got an error thrown
here is a debug log..G Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupd'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () End of crash report Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? End of crash report William Warren wrote: My hlds server randomly crashes. to reiterate this is a p-4 1.4 ghz with 384 megs of pc-800. 250 plus is free at all times. I finally was able to capture this folowing error: ./hlds_run: line 423: 5450 Segmentation fault $HL_CMD any ideas? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] i finally got an error thrown
i686 is what the hlds runs by itself. I am not specifying anything it is choosing i 686..:) This is not a lan server but a public server behind a firewall with a dynamic ip address. I am not sure not specifying an ip would work in this situation. Nathan Marcus wrote: Why is this running the i686 anyhow when u mention just one P4, whats wrong with trying an i386? But try not specifying an ip anywhere, in server cfg or commandline. I ran into a boatload of trouble with that before. If you want to specify lan just do sv_lan 1. Try this, and give an update on your status. - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] i finally got an error thrown here is a debug log..G Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupd'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () End of crash report Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? End of crash report William Warren wrote: My hlds server randomly crashes. to reiterate this is a p-4 1.4 ghz with 384 megs of pc-800. 250 plus is free at all times. I finally was able to capture this folowing error: ./hlds_run: line 423: 5450 Segmentation fault $HL_CMD any ideas? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] i finally got an error thrown
also i686 has SSE in it which the p-4 has..so it chose what it is running..frankly i would want it to utilize as much of my cpu as it can. William Warren wrote: i686 is what the hlds runs by itself. I am not specifying anything it is choosing i 686..:) This is not a lan server but a public server behind a firewall with a dynamic ip address. I am not sure not specifying an ip would work in this situation. Nathan Marcus wrote: Why is this running the i686 anyhow when u mention just one P4, whats wrong with trying an i386? But try not specifying an ip anywhere, in server cfg or commandline. I ran into a boatload of trouble with that before. If you want to specify lan just do sv_lan 1. Try this, and give an update on your status. - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] i finally got an error thrown here is a debug log..G Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1. Core was generated by `./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +ip 192.168.0.201 +port 27015 +maxplayers 11 -autoupd'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () End of crash report Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? () #0 0xb74a0161 in ?? End of crash report William Warren wrote: My hlds server randomly crashes. to reiterate this is a p-4 1.4 ghz with 384 megs of pc-800. 250 plus is free at all times. I finally was able to capture this folowing error: ./hlds_run: line 423: 5450 Segmentation fault $HL_CMD any ideas? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Who do I send info to...
www.steambans.com is one place..G tubesock wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I was just watching some demo's of some wallhackers and then connected to my server and the cvar's were still enabled even though the server is set for sv_cheats 0. This is ridiculous. do I need to send it to someone at valve or what? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HL2 Linux server
i would not expose RH8 to the inet in any way. If you want to run RedHat use either Fedora or use CentOS(my reccomendation) BoNfiRe wrote: Linux hlds update tool is here: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=getsteamnow - Original Message - From: HalfLife [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] HL2 Linux server Hi All. I've just bought HL2 and I want to make my own HL2 server on my Linux Box (Redhat 8.0) Where can I find the HL2 Linux Server Download??? Or do I have to copy all the files from my HL2 DVD i just have bought Can somebody help me??? Regards Tuffy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HL2 Linux server
if you are into backporting your own security fixes and what not or rolling your own rpm's with security updates..go for it.. HalfLife wrote: Why not run RH8??? I have run it for years!!! /Tuffy - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HL2 Linux server i would not expose RH8 to the inet in any way. If you want to run RedHat use either Fedora or use CentOS(my reccomendation) BoNfiRe wrote: Linux hlds update tool is here: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=getsteamnow - Original Message - From: HalfLife [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] HL2 Linux server Hi All. I've just bought HL2 and I want to make my own HL2 server on my Linux Box (Redhat 8.0) Where can I find the HL2 Linux Server Download??? Or do I have to copy all the files from my HL2 DVD i just have bought Can somebody help me??? Regards Tuffy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] randomly crashing server
I noted in an earlier thread i am having a randomly crashing hlds cs 1.6 server. The thing is..there is not common map..i have over 250 megs free with everything running. I have 800 megs free hdd space for logs from the server(of which i had used maybe 20 of). Does hlds maybe not like the permission level 755? It has to be endemic to hlds as the teamspeak server and the rest of the system are rock solid. I am going to reformat it one more time with a newly downloaded centos iso JIC but i do not think that will fix it. I am leaning towards hlds needing permission 777? any ideas would be highly appreciated -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Iptables
actually it's http://www.webmin.com Brubaker wrote: I only know that one from the webmin www.webmin.org On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:27:03 -0500, danal1 wrote Does anyone use a gui config utility to configure their Iptables and if so, which one is a good one that's easy to use? I have been using the Floppyfw (http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/) for years and have run many servers but Half Life 2 is a bear to configure! ;-) Thanks! Dana -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- lms-clan.net Webmail (http://www.lms-clan.net) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] crashing server
I have a cs 1.6 server that randomly crashes. I turned all debugs on for everything. This is running steambans plugin, metamod, and adminmod. The server crashes with or without the plugins running. The logs have not been helpful in an obvious way. The machine is a p-4 1.4 ghz with 384 megs of pc-800. I am running CentOS 3.4(RHEL 3 U4 clone). I have wads of ram free as noted by my top and free statements below. The logs i have zipped up and can be access at http://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com/steamlogs/logs.zip here my free: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:382472 373476 8996 0 59340 210960 -/+ buffers/cache: 103176 279296 Swap: 522072 8 522064 here is top: 14:46:52 up 3 days, 4:43, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 49 processes: 48 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: cpuusernice systemirq softirq iowait idle total0.0%0.0%0.0% 0.0% 0.3%0.0% 99.6% Mem: 382472k av, 373504k used,8968k free, 0k shrd, 59364k buff 276188k actv, 55380k in_d,6708k in_c Swap: 522072k av, 8k used, 522064k free 210952k cached Any ideas? William -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] crashing server
winders does the same thing. if a page is inactive for long enough it gets swapped out. This is nothing unusual. The previous poster is correct i have about 250 megs free. Has anyone read the logs i posted? William Andrew Forsberg wrote: On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 21:26 +, Ian mu wrote: Nah, you want to look at the buffers to get an idea in free, Linux will use spare for cache which can be misleading. He has about 250meg spare, so memory shouldn't be an issue. Fair cop! But why is some swap used then? Admittedly only 8kB, but that shouldn't happen unless the machine has at some stage used up all available RAM, right? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] crashing server
nopers nothing in the messages log at all. Ian mu wrote: Sorry, did take a look but tbh nothing sprang out at me, any other odd happenings on the server, always crashing on same map or any other similar things happening every time? Nothing odd in var/log/messages etc? On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:47:03 +, Ian mu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm guessing (ie I don't know ;)), that it would be something like swap has at some point been used, but the pages swapped out have never been needed to be brought back in from swap, whereas pages needed again after the swap would be back in memory. I.e never bother bringing anything back in from swap if its has never been needed since. Have a feeling some of the geeks may know :D On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:42:05 +1300, Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 21:26 +, Ian mu wrote: Nah, you want to look at the buffers to get an idea in free, Linux will use spare for cache which can be misleading. He has about 250meg spare, so memory shouldn't be an issue. Fair cop! But why is some swap used then? Admittedly only 8kB, but that shouldn't happen unless the machine has at some stage used up all available RAM, right? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Minimum server requirements for a Counter-Strike server
I hosted a ten slot CS 1.6 server, a 20 slot TEamspeak server on a p-2 350 w/256 megs of ram running CentOS 3.3 without too much trouble. The larger maps would occasionally lag p the cs server. I would say 500 is a realistic mimimum. Those machines as dedicated servers will easily handle a 10-10 person Cs server(depending on optional add-ons run). Ruffneck wrote: Hi all, Coule someone tell me what the mininum system requirements are to run a dedicated linux CS server ? Here at work they are migrating the old servers to new ones, and so it happens that this friday I will have 7 x Pentium 3 866 Mhz with 1024 MB RAM running Redhat at my disposal :) They are all located in our colocation suite behind 100 Mbit bandwidth. My boss gave me the green light to host gameservers on them, cause he's a fanatic gamer himself :) But I was wondering if the machines are strong enough to run Counter-Strike on it, so I hope anyone can tell me more about the specs a servers needs to have. Thanks in advance, Marcel ps. I was planning on running 1 CS server on each machine. -- http://www.geforce.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU load cs:s servers
has VAC and such been fuly enabled yet? Last time i checked that was MIA..I will wiat to sing valve's praises if VAC is truly up and running at a lower load. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just checked it again using top and 14/16 players are on it and its using around 13-20%. thats using a .5 refresh time on top. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hondaman Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU load cs:s servers Thats a really low cpu useage. I spike up to 30% on aztec on dual opteron 250's and 3 gigs of ram. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I agree - full 16 player Cs:s server on a p4 2.8ghz - the usage is around 12-20% when full. Im happy lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wouter v/d Bergh Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU load cs:s servers The CPU load on our cs:s servers is INCREDIBLE low! Great job VALVe :D Thanks :D _ MSN Zoeken helpt je om de gekste dingen te vinden! http://search.msn.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Best distro ?
I use a RHEL 3 AS clone, more specicifcally Centos 3.3 Rodolphe wrote: Hi, Wich distro is best for both counter-strike 1.6 and counter-strike : source ? Between Debian 3, RedHat 7.2, Fedora 1 Cobalt, Fedora 1.0, Fedora 2.0, Fedora 3.0 and Mandrake 10.0 ? Thx Rod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Best distro ?
CentOS 3.3 is a rebuild from source rpm of RHEL 3 AS. This makes it a 2.4.x kernel. RHEL 4 based on fedora 3 is in public beta. Mike wrote: I just installed CentOS 3.3 on a box. It appears to be a good operating system, and it has many great reviews. Unfortunately, though, I'm told it does not support the 2.6 kernel. This would be a huge drawback in my opinion as the 2.6 kernel seems far superior (at least for gaming. And yes, I'm talking even when both are set to hz 1000). Is this true, that the 2.6 kernel is unsupported? I'm going to test it with the 2.4 kernel regardless, and compare it to a fedora core 3 server. Ahh such fun :) But as for my opinion in operating systems... my favorite is FreeBSD. By far, whether it be 4.10 or 5.3. Although... I'm beginning to see much difference resource statistics on 5.3 than I did in 5.2.1. (About 10-40% higher cpu usage, much lower load, better fps - beats me). - Original Message - From: William Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Best distro ? I use a RHEL 3 AS clone, more specicifcally Centos 3.3 Rodolphe wrote: Hi, Wich distro is best for both counter-strike 1.6 and counter-strike : source ? Between Debian 3, RedHat 7.2, Fedora 1 Cobalt, Fedora 1.0, Fedora 2.0, Fedora 3.0 and Mandrake 10.0 ? Thx Rod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
not to mention the hundreds or thousands of pairs of eyes both helpful and harmful that look at the mozilla project's codebase. Todd Towles wrote: He can buy a product..or do a super fast rollout of SP2..but why should he? Microsoft should write better products...period. Everytime a Firefox exploit comes out..there is already a fix...is that magic? No..it is good coding... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox If you do have 14000 machines why don't you buy Finjan's Vital Security For Web? It will filter all malicious I.E exploits for all its surfers(its a proxy, quite fast...) Or just use SUS(system update server (microsoft)) just like any other administrator... to install sp2 or to just replace the c:\windows\system32\shdocvw.dll with the patched one or with sp2 one... Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider Security Consultant Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC) Finjan Software LTD E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Prevention is the best cure! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to windows XP SP2, hang on wheres that CD? So thanks for your infinate wisdom there Rafel. Colin. Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To et.il[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc full-disclosure-a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .com Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox 12/11/2004 06:44 That is incorrect, there is a fix -- SP2. Users should use the latest updated system, meaning if there is an SP2, they should install it. Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider Security Consultant Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC) Finjan Software LTD E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Prevention is the best cure! - Original Message - From: Martin Mkrtchian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Todd Towles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mailing List - Full-Disclosure [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox They should've at least released that statement after they fixed the IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and no fix for it, yet they claim its secure enough. If the programmers are as smart as the company press releasers, I can see why I.E. still sux. Martin On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft's security and mangement product manager (Ben English) says... At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on Thursday, Ben English, Microsoft's security and management product manager, told attendees that IE undergoes rigorous code reviews and is no less secure than any other browser. Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more about it, but I don't think that Internet Explorer is any less secure than any other browser out there, English said. http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/ 2100-1032_ 3-5448719.html?part=dhttag=ntoptag=nl.e433 Can anyone say IFRAME? Lol -Todd ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ** This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee or if you have received the e-mail in error, it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information which it contains. Under these circumstances, please notify us immediately by returning this mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and deleting this e-mail from your system. Any views expressed by an individual within this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the views of Cadbury Schweppes Plc or its subsidiaries. Cadbury Schweppes Plc will not be bound by any agreement entered into as a result of this email, unless its intention is clearly evidenced in the body of the email. Whilst we have taken reasonable steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from viruses, recipients are advised to subject this mail to their own virus checking, in keeping with good computing practice. Please note that email received by Cadbury Schweppes Plc or
[hlds_linux] steam server account recovery
I had to reinstall my linux hlds..now i need to recover the account i made..how do i go about doing that? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Hlds reinstall issue
I had to reinstall my hlds recently due to changing linux versions. What is did was simply copy the entire /usr/steam directory and all sub directories to another partition. I then changed from mandrake 9.2 to centos(RHEL 3 clone). When the server starts up i get a username not setup or previously set error. The server fails to update but then runs without incident. How can i reestablish the account i had already created? -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Full-Disclosure digest, Vol 1 #1950 - 4 msgs
go here to change your subscription: http://lists.netsys.com/mailman/listinfo/full-disclosure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Please be advised that my email has been changed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please send all full-disclosure newsletters or related messages to the above email address. Thanx Best Rgds, Chris Tang == On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:00 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Send Full-Disclosure mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.netsys.com/mailman/listinfo/full-disclosure or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Full-Disclosure digest... Today's Topics: 1. [TURBOLINUX SECURITY INFO] 05/Oct/2004 (Turbolinux) 2. RE: Spyware installs with no interaction in IE on fully patched XP SP2 box (Castigliola, Angelo) 3. SUSE Security Announcement: samba (SUSE-SA:2004:035) (Thomas Biege) 4. Paranid ramblings - what's the deal? Bounded variables aren't? (Clairmont, Jan M) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:30:17 +0900 From: Turbolinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure] [TURBOLINUX SECURITY INFO] 05/Oct/2004 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is an announcement only email list for the x86 architecture. Turbolinux Security Announcement 05/Oct/2004 The following page contains the security information of Turbolinux Inc. - Turbolinux Security Center http://www.turbolinux.com/security/ (1) squid - DoS vulnerability in squid (2) ImageMagick - Multiple buffer overflow vulnerabilities in ImageMagick === * squid - DoS vulnerability in squid === More information : Squid is a high-performance proxy caching server for web clients, supporting FTP, gopher, and HTTP data objects. Unlike traditional caching software, Squid handles all requests in a single, non-blocking, I/O-driven process. A vulnerability in the NTLM helpers in squid. Impact : The vulnerabilities allow remote attackers to cause a denial of service of sauid server services. Affected Products : - Turbolinux Appliance Server 1.0 Hosting Edition - Turbolinux Appliance Server 1.0 Workgroup Edition - Turbolinux 8 Server - Turbolinux 8 Workstation - Turbolinux 7 Server - Turbolinux 7 Workstation Solution : Please use the turbopkg (zabom) tool to apply the update. - [Turbolinux 10 Desktop, Turbolinux 10 F...] # zabom -u squid [other] # turbopkg or # zabom update squid - Source Packages Size : MD5 squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.src.rpm 1538211 ff3e34c4b8c71d250f2781179ceec73a Binary Packages Size : MD5 squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.i586.rpm 825195 85c3b583674e0ac0695c4cbf0404e586 Source Packages Size : MD5 squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.src.rpm 1538211 6b6d400ee15ee97ac6f7e98fbea26e50 Binary Packages Size : MD5 squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.i586.rpm 825663 bed921f91e657975cc6c72d2ea8f29d4 Source Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Server/8/updates/SRPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.src.rpm 1538211 b28eeeb88347c668fdb9938c4c1cd438 Binary Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Server/8/updates/RPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.i586.rpm 825370 335f0fe78cfb204c86ff5b05d12bfd34 Source Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Workstation/8/updates/SRPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.src.rpm 1538211 181d72c2668f72b6e50190f784421bed Binary Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Workstation/8/updates/RPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.i586.rpm 825810 5e52e49f4be6e555f57b38ffb241c455 Source Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Server/7/updates/SRPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.src.rpm 1538211 45fd66fc13713b40beb996f664460f0e Binary Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Server/7/updates/RPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.i586.rpm 829880 e2a6cf6b67a7c74249b23bce5a4adedf Source Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Workstation/7/updates/SRPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.src.rpm 1538211 191eab57b2adcecf91ceb4b34c94de09 Binary Packages Size : MD5 ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/TurboLinux/TurboLinux/ia32/Workstation/7/updates/RPMS/squid-2.5.STABLE6-11.i586.rpm 830034 d6142042afcd410376e5a875c5436bc9 Notice : After
Re: [Full-Disclosure] avoid jpeg overflow problems using on the fly conversion?
The only problem is this..there is no reason to sanitize jpeg's as this is not a jpeg issue but a Microsoft problem when dealing with jpeg's. Things that do not depend on the dll are not affected(mozilla/firefox and opera if i remember correctly). If this was a jpeg issue then everything would be affected..also of note is that win2k users are not affected(with the exception of ie6). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while discussing the jpeg overflow problem and remembering the similar bmp issue, one of my co-workers (thanks lars) brought up the idea of sanitizing jpgs on the gateway level. google found me no hints for existing stuff except a modified micro_proxy for converting png 2 jpg from 2001, when png support wasn't widely available. The project is at http://freshmeat.net/projects/png2jpgproxy/ and is derived from micro_proxy at http://www.acme.com/software/micro_proxy/ looking at the code - i admit not being a programmer - i found it quite simple to modify the program to use it for the exact opposite. 3 lines of code need to be changed: from (strstr(line,image/png))) png_translate=1; to (strstr(line,image/jpeg))) png_translate=1; --- from printf(Content-Type: %s\r\n,image/jpeg); to printf(Content-Type: %s\r\n,image/png); --- from conv_stream=popen(/usr/X11R6/bin/convert png:- jpg:-,w); to conv_stream=popen(/usr/X11R6/bin/convert jpg:- png:-,w); --- i'm not able to deliver a decent patch-file, but you'll get the idea. It seems to work fine, no change in html-code just a new mime-type and the gfx-format changes of course. imho on the fly converting jpg to png should mitigate the risk of getting malicious jpeg's. while blocking jpeg for external mail might have a low impact, doing the same for http is not really an option. Installing MS04-028 in a larger environment might not be that easy either. Of course micro_proxy/png2jpg runs via (x)inetd and might not be performant enough to handle huge loads. I don't know of any content screening product which sanitizes graphics, their good at removing active script, exes, plugins etc. Converting graphics might not be the most elegant way, but using this method in a flexible way should help to react fast on similar security issues. One could convert gif, bmp, you name it depending on new security issues arising. Of course ImageMagick (convert) had it's issues in the past, but i rather deal with issues on the proxy than with the ones on the client/IE. The conversion approach might be suitable for sanitizing other file types like ms office (doc, xls) etc. just an idea... Regards Sascha ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] MyDoom-M evades attachment filters
what are you using for attachment filters? my astaro attachment filter is killing mydoom without one getting through. lsi wrote: Since the first MyDoom (which appeared almost six months ago, to the day) I have been nice and snug behind my executable attachment filter. And my zipfile attachment filter. But then MyDoom-M slips past The reason is because it puts spaces or newlines into its MIME. Very smart. Apparently the MIME decodes OK (spaces and newlines are ignored by the MIME parser) but it sure makes it look different to my filters. I post this message so that folks can get working on regexp rules that take spaces and newlines into account. This MIME filter worked on almost all zipfiles until now: UEsDBAoAA* MyDoom-M however sends itself like this (two examples only): U EsDBAoAA [rest of MIME here] or UEs DBAo AA [rest of MIME here] Not one shy of a challenge, I'll admit this beat my filter. And I'll also speculate that this will not pose a long-term problem. If you're a regexp w1zard, feel free to share how you'd approach this! My current thoughts are something like this: U*E*s*D*B*A*o*A*A* Still got newline prob though. Stu --- Stuart Udall stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] net - http://www.cyberdelix.net/ --- * Origin: lsi: revolution through evolution (192.168.0.2) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: Problems with private justice (was Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious)
LOL..not a problem..:) Michel Py wrote: oops I just realized that I incorrectly quoted William Warren instead of Brian Battle in my previous post. Sorry guys, cut/paste casualty. /oops Sean Donelan wrote: Could this be a Joe job by someone who doesn't like the owners of Cool Web Search? The owners of the Cool Web Search company deny they are the creators nor affiliated with the creaters of the CWS trojans. Maybe they are lying. Maybe other Joe jobs have lied too. Good points. I don't have all the facts. Maybe someone else does. Yep, the guys that write the Trojans :-D As Brian says: Brian Battle wrote: The authors of these coolwebsearch variants are extremely intelligent programmers with far more understanding of the bowels of the windows platform than your average script kiddies. The problem I have is not with understanding of the bowels, but with the ability to produce bowel movements. Michel. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape
Re: Off-Topic: N.Y. Buyout Firm Has Its Eye on MCI
they have a large stake yes..:) Patrick W Gilmore wrote: On Jul 13, 2004, at 10:09 PM, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: Leucadia National Corp., a New York buyout firm, has expressed interest in acquiring a controlling stake in MCI Inc., raising new questions about the telecommunications giant's future just three months after it emerged from bankruptcy. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45160-2004Jul12.html/? nav=yb-te1 Doesn't Leucadia also own ... WilTel? I forgot (and am not registered for the Washington Post). -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Firefox 0.92 DoS via TinyBMP
ie 6 sp1 fully patched win 2k sp4 ie6 causes a 1 gig jump in VM..not sure why mozilla does not exhibit this behavior st3ng4h wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 01:23:39PM +0200, thE_iNviNciblE wrote: there is a security vulnerability in Firebox 0.92 (latest Version) http://www.4rman.com/exploits/tinybmp.htm this link causes that your virutal memory will be rise up 1,2 GB used Memory... maybe Thunderbird 0.72 is also vulnerable via HTML. Are you certain this is a vuln in Firefox? On W2K SP4 fully patched: I can verify that opening that page in Firefox 0.9.2 causes VM to balloon. However, I get almost identical results opening the same page in IE 6sp1, and can cause excessive VM consumption by opening little.bmp referenced in your page in MS Paint. st3ng4h ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
coolwebsearch has become more and more sneaky..so bad that
development of cws shredder has been abandoned by its
developerEither serious lock down you ie(which with CWS is
not going to help) or use something other than ie.
Edward B. Dreger wrote:
RKJ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 01:43:50 -0300
RKJ From: Rubens Kuhl Jr.
RKJ Try booting into safe mode before running software to detect
RKJ or remove spyware; some of them fight to survive if they are
Also use msconfig to disable non-critical extras. Some of us
have manually ripped out ActiveX controls and BHOs care of
regedit... but, alas, malware often has made enough registry and
other system changes that the system is left unstable or
inoperable.
CVs archives of { { system file MD5/SHA1 hashes } and { registry
dumps } }, anyone?
Eddy
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Re: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious
not all the variants are that easy..how about doing a google on coolwebsearch..scumware.com has a good writeup as well as spywareinfo.com...the newer variants are not that easy Gregh wrote: - Original Message - From: Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gregh [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:41 AM Subject: RE: Spyware becomes increasingly malicious Gregh wrote: Are you honestly serious? I came up against it for the first time only about 3 days ago and I got rid of it in 10 minutes! I can see how it would be a problem for a newbie but it shouldn't be anything more than 10 minutes work for anyone here with Windows experience. There are dozen of variants, obviously you've seen only one. Obviously. If I can get rid of it easily *I* am the one who is wrong! All I did was the job. How about you read what I wrote. It really IS that easy. Greg. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape
[Full-Disclosure] MS kills ADODB.Stream in IE to fix vulnerability
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=870669 -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Fix for IE ADODB.Stream vulnerability is out
this returns an error..is that all it is supposed to do? Jelmer wrote: Too bad it won't do you one ounce any good http://62.131.86.111/security/idiots/malware2k/installer.htm Credit: http-equiv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helmut Hauser Sent: vrijdag 2 juli 2004 18:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Fix for IE ADODB.Stream vulnerability is out http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=4d05 6748-c538-46f6-b7c8-2fbfd0d237e3 Better late than never ... Helmut Hauser ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Fix for IE ADODB.Stream vulnerability is out
i have a athlon xp 2000+ not a slow system. I am running ie6 sp1 all patched up..for this test..my mzin browser is mozilla obviously mozilla is immune to this one..:) Jelmer wrote: That depends, are you using firefox? ;) It works on my ie6 sp1 + latest and greatest *cough* patches It does however use settimeout, maybe you have a low end system, and you need a longer wait, just try reloading it a couple of times -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Warren Sent: vrijdag 2 juli 2004 20:47 To: Jelmer Cc: 'Helmut Hauser'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Fix for IE ADODB.Stream vulnerability is out this returns an error..is that all it is supposed to do? Jelmer wrote: Too bad it won't do you one ounce any good http://62.131.86.111/security/idiots/malware2k/installer.htm Credit: http-equiv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helmut Hauser Sent: vrijdag 2 juli 2004 18:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Fix for IE ADODB.Stream vulnerability is out http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=4d05 6748-c538-46f6-b7c8-2fbfd0d237e3 Better late than never ... Helmut Hauser ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Microsoft and Security
i am not having a lonely browsing experience...all the security sites i visit work jsut fine. I msut be missing some. I missed the security researcher's list of sites that did not work in anything but ie. What was the thread title and i will happily search the archives..find it..and test the findings as well..:) Ron DuFresne wrote: On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, William Warren wrote: Frankly if i hit a site that does not work in mozilla..i email the webmaster..if they are unable or unwilling to support mozilla then i simply do not go to that site anymore..:) Which can leave you with a lonely web-browsing experience. I recall a well known security researcher/expert not too long ago in the past givening up on his stance of avoiding security related sites that relied upon content that was potentially unsafe. He soon found there were few security sites he could actually browse. There are a number of applications that are IE centric as well, applications that often end up in corprate evn's... Thanks, Ron DuFresne Nancy Kramer wrote: There are lots of sites written only for IE or clones of IE like Opera. Some large sites are written only for late model IEs. Many are from large companies. Big business thinks MS is the state of the art and the only way to go for business. You have a choice do it their way or don't get the benefits of their web site. They play to the user who has AOL, uses only IE and Outlook with all the defaults on because if MS does it it must be right and they really have no interest in changing things or knowing about them. People believe they are protected by big companies like MS. They are fools but then like a friend of mine always says business people are stupid. They believe that the US government should protect them from hackers and spam. That cannot be done but they don't understand that and neither do the US legislators. Regards, Nancy Kramer Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web At 05:23 PM 6/28/2004, Burnes, James wrote: Well, this is an predictable, but interesting quote from IDefense... [IDefense linked the malicious attacks to a group by a different name called the hangUP team, also from Russia and also believed to be responsible for the recent string of Korgo worms, Dunham said. These are hackers for hire and they commoditize every piece of information they capture. This was a very complicated and sophisticated attack, he said. Security experts were still trying to determine Friday how IIS servers were compromised and whether applying the latest patches for IIS and Internet Explorer would protect users from the attacks. My gut feeling is (patching) doesn't protect you, Dunham said. If I were a home user, I'd consider using another Web browser, like Mozilla, until a patch comes out, he said.] (nwfusion - 06/25/2004) Well, of course. By why go back to IE unless someone wrote apps that only run on IE and what's the point of that. Might as well write them in VB. jim burnes security engineer great-west, denver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:full-disclosure- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 9:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Microsoft and Security Where is Microsoft now protecting their customers as they love to bray? Should not someone in authority of this public company step forward and explain themselves at this time? All of sudden panic is being created across the WWW with IIS Exploit Infecting Web Site Visitors With Malware, Mysterious Attack Hits Web Servers, Researchers warn of infectious Web sites all stemming from all news accounts from an unpatched problem with Internet Explorer now two weeks old and counting, which in fact in reality stems from 10 months ago, that being the adodb.stream safe for scripting control with write capabilities. What exactly is being done about this? Nothing. What does multiple billions of dollars buy you today. Nothing. However for $20 million you can almost fly to the moon. Someone ought to step forward and explaini what exactly is happening at this public company. The great protector of their customers. One might even suggest that their entire security mandate be re-examined. What exactly do they consider a vulnerability? Something that suits them or something that's cost effective to fix. So what, a few people lose their identities, have a few dollars extracted from their bank accounts, have their home pages reset, we'll fix it when it suits us as we have to be on budget this quarter. The Big Boss says $40 billion isn't enough this year. A vulnerability: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/community/columns/securi ty/essays/vulnrbl.mspx A security vulnerability is a flaw in a product that makes it infeasible - even when using the product properly-to prevent an attacker from
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Microsoft and Security
Frankly if i hit a site that does not work in mozilla..i email the webmaster..if they are unable or unwilling to support mozilla then i simply do not go to that site anymore..:) Nancy Kramer wrote: There are lots of sites written only for IE or clones of IE like Opera. Some large sites are written only for late model IEs. Many are from large companies. Big business thinks MS is the state of the art and the only way to go for business. You have a choice do it their way or don't get the benefits of their web site. They play to the user who has AOL, uses only IE and Outlook with all the defaults on because if MS does it it must be right and they really have no interest in changing things or knowing about them. People believe they are protected by big companies like MS. They are fools but then like a friend of mine always says business people are stupid. They believe that the US government should protect them from hackers and spam. That cannot be done but they don't understand that and neither do the US legislators. Regards, Nancy Kramer Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web At 05:23 PM 6/28/2004, Burnes, James wrote: Well, this is an predictable, but interesting quote from IDefense... [IDefense linked the malicious attacks to a group by a different name called the hangUP team, also from Russia and also believed to be responsible for the recent string of Korgo worms, Dunham said. These are hackers for hire and they commoditize every piece of information they capture. This was a very complicated and sophisticated attack, he said. Security experts were still trying to determine Friday how IIS servers were compromised and whether applying the latest patches for IIS and Internet Explorer would protect users from the attacks. My gut feeling is (patching) doesn't protect you, Dunham said. If I were a home user, I'd consider using another Web browser, like Mozilla, until a patch comes out, he said.] (nwfusion - 06/25/2004) Well, of course. By why go back to IE unless someone wrote apps that only run on IE and what's the point of that. Might as well write them in VB. jim burnes security engineer great-west, denver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:full-disclosure- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 9:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Microsoft and Security Where is Microsoft now protecting their customers as they love to bray? Should not someone in authority of this public company step forward and explain themselves at this time? All of sudden panic is being created across the WWW with IIS Exploit Infecting Web Site Visitors With Malware, Mysterious Attack Hits Web Servers, Researchers warn of infectious Web sites all stemming from all news accounts from an unpatched problem with Internet Explorer now two weeks old and counting, which in fact in reality stems from 10 months ago, that being the adodb.stream safe for scripting control with write capabilities. What exactly is being done about this? Nothing. What does multiple billions of dollars buy you today. Nothing. However for $20 million you can almost fly to the moon. Someone ought to step forward and explaini what exactly is happening at this public company. The great protector of their customers. One might even suggest that their entire security mandate be re-examined. What exactly do they consider a vulnerability? Something that suits them or something that's cost effective to fix. So what, a few people lose their identities, have a few dollars extracted from their bank accounts, have their home pages reset, we'll fix it when it suits us as we have to be on budget this quarter. The Big Boss says $40 billion isn't enough this year. A vulnerability: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/community/columns/securi ty/essays/vulnrbl.mspx A security vulnerability is a flaw in a product that makes it infeasible - even when using the product properly-to prevent an attacker from usurping privileges on the user's system, regulating its operation, compromising data on it, or assuming ungranted trust. what this gibberish? For the past 10 months the adobd.stream object is capable of writing files to the all important customer's computer. It has real world consequences. It rapes their computer. Does it fit into the gibberish custom definition. Plain and simple: A security vulnerability is a flaw in a product that makes it infeasible. What kind of language is this. Reads like the financial department conjured it up. Disabling scripting won't solve it. Putting sites in one of the myriad of zones' won't solve it. Internet Explorer can trivially be fooled into operating in the less than secure so- called intranet zone and it can be guided there
Re: Unplugging spamming PCs
one of those members is comcast..the #1 source of spam for a while running..ironic isn't it? Hank Nussbacher wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/06/22/tech.spam.reut/index.html Consumers who allow their infected computers to send out millions of spam messages could be unplugged from the Internet under a proposal released Tuesday by six large e-mail providers. -Hank -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape
Re: [Full-Disclosure] M$ - so what should they do?
redeisgn their products..the basic windows design is flawed and needs reworking for one thing..:) Michael Schaefer wrote: What would you suggest Microsoft do to improve ? Georgi Guninski wrote: i am replying to the whole m$ thread, nothing personal. m$ are so bad, so it is really difficult for them to get any worse, but this does not mean they are really getting better. they crossed the badness point of no return() long time ago. georgi ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Yahoo upgraded all accounts to 100MB
hrmm my yahoo account still shows 4.0 megs..do you have a paid account? Syed Imran Ali wrote: Hiya, It is nice to see my inbox today, having 100MB or storage space, 84% remaining. Yahoo now allows up to 10MB attachment too I am not sure about .co.uk is still allowing POP or not with 100MB, as it was with 6MB. Regards, S. Imran Ali ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Multiple Antivirus Scanners DoS attack. [summery]
You can dos any machine with big enough files if they run out of partition(linux) or hard disk or memory space(windows). I had somebody show me this with a 20 gig bzipped null character attachment last year on this list. bipin gautam wrote: Multiple Antivirus Scanners DoS attack. --- [Vulnerable Products] --- Only tested on... * Norton Antivirus 2002 * Norton Antivirus 2003 * Mcafee VirusScan 6 * Network Associates (McAfee) VirusScan Enterprise 7.1 * F-Prot 4.4.2 for Linux * Rav Antivirus online Scanner [Couldn't complete the scan...] * Windows Xp default ZIP manager [report's wrong size of compress ZIP files.] Risk Impact: Medium --- [Details] --- While having a manual scan of compressed files; several Antivirus, Trojan, Spy ware scanners suffer a DoS attack if the software tries to completely extract the archive and scan its content for a hostile file. --- [Proof of Concept] --- Please download this file. http://www.geocities.com/visitbipin/SERVER_dwn.zip Moreover it's not safe to set automatically 'Quarantine/delete' option set for your AV scanner as it may try to Quarantine the virus by extracting the archive. --- Bipin Gautam http://www.geocities.com/visitbipin/ Disclaimer: The information in the advisory is believed to be accurate at the time of printing based on currently available information. Use of the information constitutes acceptance for use in an AS IS condition. There are no warranties with regard to this information. Neither the author nor the publisher accepts any liability for any direct, indirect or consequential loss or damage arising from use of, or reliance on this information. __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Possible First Crypto Virus Definitely Discovered!
this is highly shortsighted..well maybe not..if you do not have any users who do not use https...:) Billy B. Bilano wrote: Steve, Sorry to say but it is not! I checked my incoming traffic again this morning and the attack on port 443 is still coming in full steam ahead! I don't know what's going on, but I am about to block that port on my firewall. Some nitwit (probably the idiot that was here before I became IT Director) somehow, for some reason, deliberately opened port 443 on the firewalls! I am beginning to think that this is the first wave of the new coming global crypto-storm! Mr. Billy B. Bilano, MSCE, CCNA http://www.bilano.biz/ Expert Sysadmin Since 2003! 'C:\WINDOWS, C:\WINDOWS\GO, C:\PC\CRAWL' -- RMS - Original Message - From: -, Steve --- To: Billy B. Bilano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Possible First Crypto Virus Definitely Discovered! Please tell me this is just a really bad joke? -Original Message- From: Billy B. Bilano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Possible First Crypto Virus Definitely Discovered! Salutations, amigos! ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Possible First Crypto Virus Definitely Discovered!
have you got any code or anything to substantiate this? Your site is unreachable Billy B. Bilano wrote: Salutations, amigos! Bill Bilano here, reporting in from the front-lines! I've got some disturbing news that I've got to get some answers about while I share. I think we're about to come under full hacker attack at any second! And to those people that said us folks talking about crypto viruses were being chicken littles... let me tell you, the sky just fell! And it is HEAVY! I was sitting at my desk doing more research on the OPENBSD virus I discovered last week. I was watching ethereal and monitoring the traffic coming in and out of the facility and I saw a ton of traffic coming straight for our web servers! The routers, firewalls, and intrusion detraction systems were not sounding the red alarms like they should have been (we'll get to THAT one later). There appears to be a new virus in town and it's affecting Windows and UNIX web servers! I have not identified a pattern of infection yet but the virus is clearly advancing but it only affects web servers! The virus works on port 443. It seems to accept inbound connections on that port as well and, presumably, awaits for commands from some series of servers elsewhere. Perhaps taking orders? I also captured some of the traffic and attempted to analyze it up but it looks like -- you heard it here first, folks -- the payload is encrypted! Is this the first of a coming storm of crypto viruses we've all been eagerly fearing? (I have already sent a copy of the payload to the distributed.net people so they can try to use some of those wasting cycles to decipher it like they did the last one!) I have taken the liberty of naming the virus already. I looked in etc/services and saw that this port is for and it is something called ssl so I am calling it w32.ssl.b (b for bilano, since I discovered this wretched thing!) I called in our webmaster and showed him the data. He is either too stupid to know what's going on or he takes me for a fool. I got him in the conference room and showed him the print outs. He tried to convince me it was not a virus and just normal web traffic but web traffic is on port 80! No fooling old Bill! LOL! So I told him to gather his stuff up and gave him his marching orders. I have no time for this kind of bull, what with the OPENBSD virus last week (still picking up the pieces there). He must have known I was on to him because he was just laughing on his way out the front door. He may have even been involved with the infection! Good riddance, chump! At any rate, this is your heads up, folks! You heard it here first! Be on the lookout for this first, very nasty CRYPTO VIRUS! P.S. I wonder if this virus was from a spam-gang?! P.P.S. Check out my bloglog in my sig! Mr. Billy B. Bilano, MSCE, CCNA http://www.bilano.biz/ Expert Sysadmin Since 2003! 'C:\WINDOWS, C:\WINDOWS\GO, C:\PC\CRAWL' -- RMS ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: Lots of big web sites broken...SPOF
Even the main Akamai.com site is not responding.. Joseph Nuara wrote: Any idea on the cause or the ETA to restoration of service? On Mon, 24 May 2004, Jon Lewis wrote: Ok...who turned off Akamai? :) Sites that use Akamai for serving their images all seem to be pretty much broken this morning. From here, I'm seeing multiple Akamai servers on multiple networks just not responding to HTTP. They accept connections (some after much delay), but don't reply to requests. -- Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]| I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_ -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Web interface for full-disclosure and others
wow that's nice..any chance you setting up an rss feed of your site? vertex wrote: Hello, I am building a web interface which will help to monitoring the mailing list easier. The interface get the RSS feed from seclist.org and other web site and convert them into a single web interface. Now the web interface include full-disclosure, bugtraq, Internet Storm Center, OSVDB, and others. The web interface also include a Drupal based forum. Check it out at http://www.securitytrap.com/mail.html Any suggestoin is welcome, -vertex -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: Fw: [Full-Disclosure] Sasser author
any firewall even the one inside xp would have stopped sasser and you would have been able to patch at your leisure. Paolo Mattiangeli wrote: - Original Message - From: Paolo Mattiangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sasser author I am responsible for security in a small business' network (50-or-so machines, most of them running MS OSs). I have been aware of MSS bulletins as soon as they where out, and made sure to apply patches as specified. Sasser did nothing to my offices' network. But, on the other hand, I have a single PC at home, one I don't use very much, and I often forget to deal with security patches on that machine. Well - would you bet? - I got a Sasser infection at home, which caused me the discomfort of a late-night session of cleaning, disinfeting, patching and do on. I put the blame on me, of course. But sure I could have spent that night doing something better, chat-cheating the wife, reading a book, going to the movies and so on. So my question is: what wrong did al this do to The Microsoft BEAST? It only did some wrong to me and my personal life. I could have avoided that, but can't I feel safe at home? Should I be satisfied at thinking that this guy is a social naive whith no conscience of the consequences of his acts? Isn't this what the law is meant for, to protect citizens and business from the consequences of other people's acts? Just another 0.02 worth comment in this thread, that is going stale IMO... Paolo Mattiangeli ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
just from this post..it works with windows and not with Linux..Bioses can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM license that is what most large computer vendors do to get the rock bottom pricing on windows. Gateway only supports windows and they do not and will not support Linux on that machine. The warranty states no third party software or hardware is not supported and will not be supported by gateway. Dell and most other vendors have similar clauses in their warranty agreements...they will not and do not have to replace anything if it will run under windows. the court case will go nowhere if the case is based on the machines inability to run Linux. Marc wrote: I had the same problem with a friend of mine who wanted to try Linux. I also had a spare harddrive that had linux already on it. We took his out and put mine in and it would start to boot and then just stall. Couldn't get into the BIOS at all. We put his old disk in and it was recongized just fine but had to reinstall windows. This is a 3 year old gateway. He tried to install linux on the original harddrive and all went well until reboot. Again we couldn't get into the bios. Now that I know what the problem is I can reformat his drive with partition majic and he can use the restore disk. Although it doesn't surprise me in the least, gateway and gates, both suck. Moureen I seem to be getting close to the bottom of this. From what I have found it is NOT a problem with linux. I have spent a lot more time troubleshooting than I really should have. If I was to put any reasonable value on my time I could have purchased a couple of new motherboards by now. I guess I just don't like to be beaten by a POS hardware problem or a low life company that sells junk like this. This is what I have found so far. I installed a old Seagate 8 geg HDD model ST38410A in the Gateway, ML 10.0 installed , rebooted and ran just fine. I then downloaded Powermax from Maxtor and did a low level format on the Maxtor HDD from Gateway to insure that any and all hidden partitions and all data that Gateway had on it was 100% removed. I then tried it again and got the same old result. After installing ML the BIOS could no longer see the HDD. I did another low level format and again installed the drive in the gateway the BIOS could again detect the drive but this time I ran the diagnostic utility on the powermax disk and got the result of a ERROR BIOS Extension support failed. After this I have to conclude that Gates way is selling some models of computers where the BIOS on the MOBO does not fully or correctly support the hard drives supplied with the computers. At this moment the owner of the gateway machine is on the phone with gateway demanding a replacement MOBO or a replacement drive of the same size that is 100% supported by his MOBO or a full refund. If he meets to much resistance from gate way he is going to inform them that this matter will be taken to small claims court and that the papers will be filed in Mountain Home Arkansas the town that we live near. After doing some research into Arkansas law if we understand it correctly a representative from gateway will have to appear in court in Mountain Home AR or a automatic judgment will be made against Gateway. The closest Gateway office is in Little Rock, over a 100 mile drive so someone from gateway will have to spend at least a full day at this or they will have to hire a local lawyer. Yeah this guy is a bit Pod but he has been hung up on by Gateway tech support no less than 3 times in the last few days. I by no means claim to understand the law but in my mind their is a valid legal point here. Gateway is selling systems built with hardware that is NOT supposed to be installed together. This would be like Ford selling a car with rims that were 15 X 8 and putting on tires that were recommended by the manufacturer to go on a rim no smaller than 15 X 10 , I would assume that when the tires failed to preform correctly ford would be forced to rectify the parts mismatch. Also if the system that you are talking about Moureen is about 3 years old Gateway could have a BIG problem here, possibly a class action law suit. If they want to sell third rate hardware to customers that do not know any better they deserve it. Any legal prows out there with any opinions? Marc -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
the only time you get the error is when trying linux from what i can tell..which as i stated before is not supported by gateway. No analogy is going to convince a judge otherwise. you can try this court case but i do not think you are going to get anywhere..just my .02 Marc wrote: On Tuesday 23 March 2004 10:03 am, William Warren wrote: just from this post..it works with windows and not with Linux..Bioses can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM license that is what most large computer vendors do to get the rock bottom pricing on windows. Gateway only supports windows and they do not and will not support Linux on that machine. The warranty states no third party software or hardware is not supported and will not be supported by gateway. Dell and most other vendors have similar clauses in their warranty agreements...they will not and do not have to replace anything if it will run under windows. the court case will go nowhere if the case is based on the machines inability to run Linux. Marc wrote: My views are based on the fact that the Maxtor diagnostic software says that the hard drive suppled by Gateway is not properly supported by the BIOS on the mother board suppled BY gateway. Upgrading a operating system is a routine thing that most computer owners due themselves or hire a tech to due at one time or another. After all we all know plenty of people who have upgraded from win 95 to 98 or from win 98 to ME or XP. Upgrading is a routine thing that almost everyone expects to be able to due when purchasing a PC. Once again using the auto analogy parallel parking is something that most people would assume that any car they purchased would be able to due weather or not the manufacturer stated in their warranty that the car was capable of parallel parking or not. One would assume the manufacturer would be held responsible if a car was unable to to due such a routine function even with a skilled driver. One would also assume that if the problem with the car being impossible to parallel park was caused by a mismatch of the tires and rims that was not recommended by the maker of the tires. Would the auto maker not be responsible for using components that were designed to work together to preform basic routine functions? The BIOS in the gateway computer does NOT properly support the hard drive that Gateway installed with it. The software supplied by the maker of the HDD says so in so many words. Because of this parts mismatch the computer is unable to preform a basic routine function, a upgrade. If the HDD was able to preform as the manufacturer intended it to a simple routine upgrade would not be a issue but this machine was supplied with BIOS that is NOT able to control the hard drive properly so a routine function like a upgrade may be impossible even to the next OS that windoze comes out with. If this was a matter of the MOBO having a chipset that was not supported by linux that would be one thing but this is much more basic. One piece of gateway hardware doe's not properly support another piece of Gateway hardware supplied in the same system by Gateway. Furthermore win or loose the guy that owns the GW is retired and has nothing better to do with his spare time. He feels that it is not to much to ask gateway to supply BIOS that will work properly with the hard drive that they supplied. If they would rather waste a amount of time and effort that far exceeds the value of the computer and perhaps suffer from similar customer dissatisfaction and PR in the future he feels that would be all right also. The folks at gateway have already spent at least 4 hours of tech support time debating this issue. That had to cost a few bucks. If they want to continue to supply mismatched hardware let them also put up with the consequences that go with it. For that matter let them at least hire tech support people that the average English speaking public can understand. 2 of their tech support people had such bad English you would need a translator to understand more than half of what they said!!! I have doubts if they could understand all of what we told them. The whole situation with gateway failing to admit that they could have a hardware mismatch is nothing short of ridiculous . Marc -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
My wife has a Solo 5300 that we bought a year ago refurbed. The first one got damaged in shipping..but Gateway replaced it withou problem..since then it has been rock solid..even better than the desktop i once had. frankieh wrote: Marc wrote: I also had a gateway some time ago, I sold it to a friend about 3 years ago. I think it was probably one of the last decent machines gateway made. It had a full mid tower case that was made well. A real graphics card as well as a creative labs soundblaster sound card. It even came with a floppy drive, It seems like gateway quit installing those as standard equipment some time ago. I have worked on computers for a lot of people around the area that I am in. To the best of my knowledge I am the only person for at least 15 miles around that builds or repairs computers so I have seen a lot of gates ways since I first got mine and every one has been at the lower end of the quality spectrum. I must have had one of the last reasonably good ones that they made because I have had my fingers into many of them since then and every one has had some shortcomings with quality but this BS with the one that I helped my neighbor with this week is in my mind a whole new leval of crap for Gates way. I have probably done over a hundred ML installations and have seen more than a few problems along the way but this is the first machine where I have seen something that screwed up. Marc Gateway went bust in australia and pulled out... Starting to see why.. I had cause to deal with gateway laptops several years back.. it seemed a solid if uninspired design.. wonder what the modern versions are like. -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [Full-Disclosure] NEVER open attachments
nos those txt attachments get killed at my firewall.. VB wrote: NEVER open attachments Isnt this what we have been taught? haven't we tried to pound this simple rule into the heads of our users? Do we not practice what we preach? then why do several users of this list only send messages and replies as attachments? I'm sure [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nico Golde, Frank Knobbe, et al have wonderful things to say and contribute great things to this list, but i have never read anything they post because they post as attachments. Yes, granted, they are .txt attachments but that is no excuse as it's just a matter of time before they are exploited. In fact, they have been exploited, one can pad spaces after the .txt to hide the true extension of a malicious file. more .txt exploits are probably just around teh corner. So, why do these folks post attachments? Why is this even permitted? I would love to hear what these people have to say, but i cannot break my own rule to find out. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [newbie] mdk10 community wont boot to install
known issue with the 10.0..boot from 10.0 disc 2 then switch back is the official workaround LtCdData wrote: hi the cd1 of mdk 10.0 community fails to boot up to the installer on one of my computers but does on the other ok however if i put in a 9.2 cd the intaller boots ok from that ok but fails on the 10.0 disk i have redone the cd1 at a slower speed and changed the cd drives around trying to fix it but still to no avail does anyone know if there is an issue with the mdk10.0 on this?? LtCdData -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Is this a paypal scam?
i doubt this is a internal paypal link..jsut naother relaly good phising scam as this is some chinese ip..:) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://218.62.43.30/verify.html Signed up for paypal 2 weeks ago, and then this came in the mail as a link in a paypal looking html email asking me to confirm by entering my credit card/account info. I've only purchased 1 thing since signing up; it was from ebay from a longtime seller with nearly 100% positive feedback, and I received the equipment as expected. If this is a scam, then maybe paypal has some employees passing new account info outside the company. -jamie- ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: US Extradition rights (was Re: Spamhaus Exposed)
could this be taken offlist please? Dave Howe wrote: Joshua Brady wrote: The Child you speak of caused destruction over a network, the same applied for the 2 hackers here who were sent over without even questioning the UK. If the US Government is Satan then I suppose I am going to hell, because I sure as hell support it. Oh, so do I - I just think on general principles it really should require a judge in the serving country to rubberstamp it before the snatch and grab takes place - or more appropriately that the case be made to a UK judge, the child tried here and sentenced here. His actions were, after all, a criminal offence here too -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Re: Cisco's Website down?
no issues here [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN HTMLHEAD TITLE403 Forbidden/TITLE /HEADBODY H1Forbidden/H1 You don't have permission to access / on this server.P PAdditionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. HR ADDRESSApache/1.0 Server at www.cisco.com Port 80/ADDRESS /BODY/HTML Cheers -Joe -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?
no issues here..loads quickly. Todd Mitchell - lists wrote: | Behalf Of Jay Hennigan | Sent: March 15, 2004 3:19 PM | | Is it just me that they don't like? All fixed now, but load times are hella slow: phoenix:~# curl -I cisco.com HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:40:53 GMT Server: Apache/1.0 (Unix) Set-Cookie: CP_GUTC=209.123.169.252.240801079383253714; path=/; expires=Fri, 09-Mar-29 20:40:53 GMT; domain=.cisco.com Connection: close Content-Type: text/html Todd -- -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky
Larry Seltzer wrote:
Attached backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky or Norton 2004?
It's Bagle/Beagle.J. The problem is that the file is password-protected, so it's not
obvious how a scanner will get it until it's opened. Notice that the e-mail includes the
password (65316). In fact Norton finds it when the ZIP is opened and the extracted
file hits the file system.
Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian Hermansen
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky
Attached backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky or Norton 2004? I received this file
recently, but Kaspersky did not detect malicious code. Wondering if any of you guys
know about it or have analyzed it before? It is definitely NOT a text document. I
opened it up with WinHex and see the file yfivyjmg.exe in there towards the
beginning.
Looks to be a packed exe within, and first few bytes are:
504B03040A000100C07E62309FE242510C3000300C0079666976796A6D67
2E6578653A47705E116B1456E7F572AF21A99C0D52671B62085EC94DD8FDABE712E68000E55E
E8A39241
Last few bytes are:
E19F9DC6E1E9F0FAA7CD925D18C9104DCA9DF88955F8AEBD81D036BCB930889EAE0D2BA2A6EF
88A334F8B3108A414B1C9D15AA883225504B010214000A000100C07E62309FE242510C30
00300C000100200079666976796A6D672E657865504B
0506010001003A003630
I am reluctant to open the zip right now, as I fear it may be exploiting an overflow to
run the EXE file within. I may try to open it on a virtual machine later, but if you
guys do know anything about this one please let me know. It's nice and small too (12
KB)! Wonder if the guy wrote it himself. Of course, the IP address is spoofed to a
University of Chicago machine. Is it even possible to trace back? I still have the
full headers, but they looked nicely stripped to the gills. I have been receiving
elevated attacks via email over the last few days, so maybe it is some guy on this list
trying to get me ;-) One previous email stated that it was the FBI and to call a
number
listed in the email. This was most likely an attempt to get the number I was calling
from. This guy thinks he's smooth...
Kristian Hermansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E-mail account security warning.
Dear user of {blankedout}.com gateway e-mail server,
Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access.
For details see the attached file.
For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is 65316.
Best wishes,
The {blankedout}.com team http://www.
{blankedout}..com
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My Foundation verse:
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and
every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt
condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their
righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
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Re: [Full-Disclosure] Backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky
a better solution is to have .zip whoeslae killed at hte firewall/a-v
gateway like i have setup here..then these pasword protected zip files
are not a concern..:)
Larry Seltzer wrote:
Attached backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky or Norton 2004?
It's Bagle/Beagle.J. The problem is that the file is password-protected, so it's not
obvious how a scanner will get it until it's opened. Notice that the e-mail includes the
password (65316). In fact Norton finds it when the ZIP is opened and the extracted
file hits the file system.
Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian Hermansen
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky
Attached backdoor not recognized by Kaspersky or Norton 2004? I received this file
recently, but Kaspersky did not detect malicious code. Wondering if any of you guys
know about it or have analyzed it before? It is definitely NOT a text document. I
opened it up with WinHex and see the file yfivyjmg.exe in there towards the
beginning.
Looks to be a packed exe within, and first few bytes are:
504B03040A000100C07E62309FE242510C3000300C0079666976796A6D67
2E6578653A47705E116B1456E7F572AF21A99C0D52671B62085EC94DD8FDABE712E68000E55E
E8A39241
Last few bytes are:
E19F9DC6E1E9F0FAA7CD925D18C9104DCA9DF88955F8AEBD81D036BCB930889EAE0D2BA2A6EF
88A334F8B3108A414B1C9D15AA883225504B010214000A000100C07E62309FE242510C30
00300C000100200079666976796A6D672E657865504B
0506010001003A003630
I am reluctant to open the zip right now, as I fear it may be exploiting an overflow to
run the EXE file within. I may try to open it on a virtual machine later, but if you
guys do know anything about this one please let me know. It's nice and small too (12
KB)! Wonder if the guy wrote it himself. Of course, the IP address is spoofed to a
University of Chicago machine. Is it even possible to trace back? I still have the
full headers, but they looked nicely stripped to the gills. I have been receiving
elevated attacks via email over the last few days, so maybe it is some guy on this list
trying to get me ;-) One previous email stated that it was the FBI and to call a
number
listed in the email. This was most likely an attempt to get the number I was calling
from. This guy thinks he's smooth...
Kristian Hermansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E-mail account security warning.
Dear user of {blankedout}.com gateway e-mail server,
Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access.
For details see the attached file.
For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is 65316.
Best wishes,
The {blankedout}.com team http://www.
{blankedout}..com
___
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
--
My Foundation verse:
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and
every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt
condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their
righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
___
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: Warning - new trend of attempts to infect ISP users (possibly virus)
it has gotten to the point for me that i am looking for a whitelisting option on my firewall/a-v gateway instead of a blacklisting one for attachments. Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Erm is it me or are the writers of Bagle and Netsky determined to keep morphing their code to outwit the virus scanners.. is this a new trend in virus writing - beat the systems by evolving your code quicker than the security firms can release updates? new trend in that it started only a decade ago? Perhaps I'm only following this as its affecting us more, but I dont recall a time previously when I've had so many viruses hitting us and getting thro our scanners with nothing we can do about it. I dont recall seeing viruses with variants as high as 'j' before, especially in the relatively short time since the previous variants were out Seriously, drop some references if I'm off-track.. its just my perception and I'm not an expert at all with viruses... Steve On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Larry Rosenman wrote: http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_101071.htm W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] --On Tuesday, March 02, 2004 20:07:17 -0800 william(at)elan.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just seen emails (several different kinds) pretending to be sent from 3 of my isp domains to users of those domains warning users that their email account would be disabled and asking to open a .pif attachment. I know largest ISPs probably have expierenced this but I believe what I have seen today means they are after ISPs (or possibly just after any domains with number of email addresses under them) of all sizes right at the moment. All emails we received from the same source ip - 129.59.206.187 Please check your email base for what looks like the following (in the examples I changed everything to elan.net, actually every isp domain received different example of this, only first one is exact). Example 1: --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Email account utilization warning. Hello user of Elan.net e-mail server, Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access. For further details see the attach. Best wishes, The Elan.net team http://www.elan.net --- Example 2: --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Warning about your e-mail account. Dear user of Elan.net mailing system, Our main mailing server will be temporary unavaible for next two days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to configure our free auto-forwarding service. Further details can be obtained from attached file. Cheers, The Elan.net team http://www.elan.net --- Example3: --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Warning about your e-mail account. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear user, the management of Elan.net mailing system wants to let you know that, Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account. Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions. Please, read the attach for further details. The Management, The Elan.net team http://www.elan.net -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
[newbie] webdav on mandrake 9.2
I am trying to get webdav working on mandrake 9.2 I have mod dav installed and the dav fs installed..apache is installed and running. I have been trying for the past couple of months to get this working and it is beyond me..:) the directory i want to share is /files/server/calendar i am not worried about outside access as this is internal to my lan and i have astaro security linux specifically set to not allow this server on the net. This server also runs samba and shares out an 80 gig drive(the one the calendar will be on)...how do i get webdav working? the clients will be mozilla 1.x with the calendar module add-on installed..:) William Warren -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] webdav on mandrake 9.2
FYI i do have sshd running and webmin running so i can do this either way..:) William Warren wrote: I am trying to get webdav working on mandrake 9.2 I have mod dav installed and the dav fs installed..apache is installed and running. I have been trying for the past couple of months to get this working and it is beyond me..:) the directory i want to share is /files/server/calendar i am not worried about outside access as this is internal to my lan and i have astaro security linux specifically set to not allow this server on the net. This server also runs samba and shares out an 80 gig drive(the one the calendar will be on)...how do i get webdav working? the clients will be mozilla 1.x with the calendar module add-on installed..:) William Warren -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] webdav on mandrake 9.2
Any takers on this one?..G William Warren wrote: FYI i do have sshd running and webmin running so i can do this either way..:) William Warren wrote: I am trying to get webdav working on mandrake 9.2 I have mod dav installed and the dav fs installed..apache is installed and running. I have been trying for the past couple of months to get this working and it is beyond me..:) the directory i want to share is /files/server/calendar i am not worried about outside access as this is internal to my lan and i have astaro security linux specifically set to not allow this server on the net. This server also runs samba and shares out an 80 gig drive(the one the calendar will be on)...how do i get webdav working? the clients will be mozilla 1.x with the calendar module add-on installed..:) William Warren -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Knocking Microsoft
James P. Saveker wrote: Some personal thoughts, Yes indeed it's no secret that Microsoft valued functionality over security for many years. I think that's how they are a market leader today. This model could not be sustained however, as with the advent of exponential internet growth security has undoubtedly become a major concern. Microsoft has in there defence started the trustworthy computing scheme, which many would not hesitate to laugh at. However windows server 2003 does not by default load unnecessary services. Microsoft has developed bits client to downloaded patches requiring minimal user interaction depending on the configuration. In the enterprise they have improved SMS server to deploy patches across bits. For smaller business they offer SUS for FREE. The code they produce is far more stringently tested in regard to security than perhaps it was before. really? then are some ofhte flaws in win nt4 able to be exploit in 2k3? NOt a very good code review in my eyes. The key to increasing the windows security model is not just one thing, however with the advent of granular code patches will be smaller and cheaper to deploy requiring much less bandwidth than today. Longhorn will be a big jump for Microsoft and a major test of the trustworthy computing yada yada. I do not understand why people knock Microsoft so much in regard to security today. because it has been up to htis point marketing combined with FUD..which unfortunatly many buy into. I regularly hear people talking about how many vulnerability's Microsoft has and how poor this is. As everybody subscribing to this list and similar zone-h, bugtraq etc will know Linux has many warnings posted also. here we go..apples to oranges..you have to take thelinux kernel AND all the 3rd party packages and combine them to approach MS's vulnerablility numbers..nice try..:) Yet I rarely hear people talking about that and indeed how it is far more difficult to keep linux distro's up to date. Windows has a far greater end user base than any other operating system. It would be a fair assumption to then say that perhaps virus writers and hackers are going to look for ways to exploit windows far more than other end user system in order to gain greater penetration. That is not to say that people do not look for sploits in web application servers running nix and other such systems in respect to the amount of nix servers on the net. considering that linux is the #1 webserver paltform..hackers nail it all the time..though most tiems they are able to deface or own due to admin misconfiguring rather than code that is filled with bugs and holes. I don't mean to open an open sauce debate but merely say my bit and see others peoples views on the topic. James Saveker The only thing which helps me maintain my slender grip on reality is the friendship I share with my collection of singing potatoes... ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows
leading to cruddier and more bloated code and yet more security problems..won't it be interesting if these hardware technologies have overflows of their own..:) Richard M. Smith wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4696 Chips to ease Microsoft's big security nightmare 10:00 22 February 04 Chip makers are planning a new generation of microprocessors that should plug the gaps that led Microsoft to issue a critical security alert last week. The alert was sparked by the discovery that a raft of Microsoft programs were vulnerable to a problem called buffer overflow, which hackers can exploit to extract private information from a PC. And the risk of such attacks only worsened when, two days after the alert was issued, critical Windows source code was leaked on to the internet letting hackers see how it works. A buffer is a section of computer memory that can store a set amount of data. Sometimes, usually because of a software bug, the processor sends more data to the buffer than it can hold, causing it to overflow into the next chunk of buffer memory. This makes computers vulnerable to hackers, because by deliberately making a buffer overflow they can force the computer to execute their malicious code. The problem is hard to detect, as popular programming languages, like C and C++ do not make it easy to track when programs are vulnerable to overflow. But now chip makers Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) and Intel are developing processor chips that will deal with the problem. AMD's Athlon-64 (for PCs) and Opteron (for servers) will protect against buffer overflows when used with a new version of Windows XP. Intel plans similar features on next generation Pentium chips. ... ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- May God Bless you and everything you touch. My foundation verse: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
