Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC3

2009-10-01 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Jukka!  Can someone else please have a look? -- we're still one vote
 shy.

 -T


Is this still waiting for a vote? If so i can go take a look.

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Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of PDFBox 0.8.0-incubating

2009-10-01 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Niall Pemberton
niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 4:26 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 18/09/2009, Andreas Lehmkühler andr...@lehmi.de wrote:
 Hi,

  The PDFBox PPMC has voted to release version 0.8.0-incubating of PDFBox. 
 The release candidate is available for review at

    http://people.apache.org/~lehmi/pdfbox/pdfbox-0.8.0-incubating/

  See the attached original vote messages for more details.

  Please vote to approve this release. This IPMC vote is open for the next 
 72 hours.

 Is there an SVN tag that corresponds to this release? If so, what is it?

 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/pdfbox/tags/0.8.0-incubating/

 Niall

   [ ] +1 Approve the release of PDFBox 0.8.0-incubating
   [ ] -1 Do not approve this release because...

  The following three IPMC member votes were cast already on pdfbox-...@. 
 I'm including these also in this vote.

    +1 Niall Pemberton
    +1 Jeremias Maerki
    +1 Jukka Zitting

  BR
  Andreas Lehmkühler

  - weitergeleitete Nachricht -
  Betreff: [RESULT][VOTE] Release PDFBox 0.8.0-incubating
  Datum: Fr, 18. Sep 2009
  Von: Andreas Lehmkühlerandr...@lehmi.de
   Hi,
  
    Please vote on releasing this package as Apache PDFBox
    0.8.0-incubating. The vote is open for the next 72 hours and passes if
    a majority of at least three +1 PDFBox PPMC votes is reached. Assuming
    the vote passes, I will ask the Incubator PMC to approve the release.
   
    [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache PDFBox 0.8.0-incubating
    [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
  
   The vote passes as follows:
  
   +1 Andreas Lehmkühler
   +1 Jukka Zitting
   +1 Niall Pemberton
   +1 Daniel Wilson
   +1 Mel Martinez (no binding vote)
   +1 Phillip Koch
   +1 Jeremias Maerki
  
   Thanks to all for your patience and for your help reviewing this release.
  
   I'll ask the IPMC to approve the release.
  
   BR
   Andreas Lehmkühler


Is this still waiting for votes? Its quite old now so asking before
spending time looking.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC3

2009-10-01 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:41 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Jukka!  Can someone else please have a look? -- we're still one vote
 shy.

 -T


 Is this still waiting for a vote? If so i can go take a look.

  ...ant


Ok forget it i see its done, sorry for the noise. Sorting through lots
of email after being away and for some reason gmail isn't keeping the
vote and result together for some threads.

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Lucene.Net as a subproject under Apache Lucene

2009-10-15 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:33 AM, George Aroush geo...@aroush.net wrote:

 Hi Folks,



 On behalf of Lucene.Net mentor, committers and community, this is a vote
 call to graduate the Lucene.Net project
 (http://incubator.apache.org/lucene.net/) as a sub-project under Apache
 Lucene.



 The Lucene.Net mentor, committers, and the community have voted like so:



  +1 Erik Hatcher (mentor)

  +1 George Aroush (committer)

  +1 Isik YIGIT (aka: DIGY) (committer)

  +1 Doug Sale (committer)

  +1 a total of 70+ Lucene.Net members / followers / users.



 (with no -1 or 0 votes)



 The vote result can be found here:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-lucene-net-user/200909.mb
 ox/%3c166a01ca3739$13947380$3abd5a...@net%3ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-lucene-net-user/200909.mb%0Aox/%3c166a01ca3739$13947380$3abd5a...@net%3e



 In addition, the Java Lucene PMC have casted their vote to accept
 Lucene.Net
 as a subproject under Apache Lucene.  The vote result is as follow:



  +1 Andi Vajda

  +1 Andrzej Bialecki

  +1 Michael McCandless

  +1 Jukka Zitting

  +1 Grant Ingersoll

  +1 Michael Busch

  +1 Chris Hostetter

  +1 Ted Dunning

  +1 Otis Gospodnetic

  +1 Simon Willnauer



 (with no -1 or 0 votes)



 The vote result can be found here:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-general/200910.mbox/%3c2cd40
 1ca4863$434ef290$c9ecd7...@net%3e



 The rationale for graduation is:



  * Lucene.Net has been under incubation since April 2006 (3 1/2 years now).

  * During incubation, Lucene.Net has:

- Made, 1 official release
 (Incubating-Apache-Lucene.Net-2.0-004-11Mar07).

- Released, as SVN tag, 18 ports of Java Lucene (from 1.9 to 2.4.0).

- Released, as SVN tag, port of WordNet.Net 2.0, SpellChecker.Net 2.0,
 Snowball.Net 2.0, and Highlighter.Net 2.0.

- Released, MSDN style documentation for the above release.

- Accepted, two new committers: Isik YIGIT (DIGY) digydigy @ gmail.com
 and Doug Sale dsale @ myspace-inc.com were added in November 2008 (George
 Aroush george @ aroush.net is the original committer).

- The community has grown, with a healthy followers.

- Is being used by well established companies in production (I'm not
 sure what's the legality to mention their names here, or even if I have the
 complete list).

- Is being used by Beagle project.

  * Work is already under way to port Java Lucene 2.9 to Lucene.Net 2.9



 If this graduation is approved, Lucene.Net will be officially called
 Apache
 Lucene.Net



 Please cast your votes:



 [ ]  +1  Graduate Lucene.Net as a sub-project under Apache Lucene.

 [ ]  -1  Lucene.Net is not ready to graduate as a sub-project under Apache
 Lucene, because ...



 This vote will close on October 20th, 2009.



 Regards,



 -- George




Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.1

2009-10-15 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:


 The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
 Cassandra 0.4.1. We would now like to request the approval of the
 Incubator PMC for this release.

 Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed,
 structured key-value store.

 Podling vote thread:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org/msg00987.html
 0.4.1 artifacts: 
 http://people.apache.org/~eevanshttp://people.apache.org/%7Eeevans
 SVN tag:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cassandra/tags/cassandra-0.4.1
 Project home: http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/
 Incubation status: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cassandra.html

 Note: We've already received 3 binding +1s during the podding release
 vote[0][1][2].

 The vote will remain open for 72 hours.

 Thank you for your time.

 Regards,

 [0]

 http://www.mail-archive.com/cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org/msg00995.html
 [1]

 http://www.mail-archive.com/cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org/msg00994.html
 [2]

 http://www.mail-archive.com/cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org/msg00996.html

 --
 Eric Evans
 eev...@rackspace.com


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Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-26 Thread ant elder
+1. Congrats on 1.0.

Note the key used to sign the artifacts is not published to a public
key server so you may want to do that before the artifacts go live.
See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html#public-key-not-found

   ...ant

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo
nlgal...@us.ibm.com wrote:



 The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apache Wink 1.0. We
 would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this
 release.

 Podling vote thread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wink-...@incubator.apache.org/msg02060.html

 The Maven staging area is at:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/wink-staging-002/

 The distributions are in:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/wink-staging-002/org/apache/wink/apache-wink/1.0-incubating/


 This release is tagged at:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/tags/wink-1.0-incubating/

 Please vote using one of the options below.  This vote will be open for 72
 hours.

 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1




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 WebSphere  - REST  WebServices Development
 nlgal...@us.ibm.com
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Libcloud Project

2009-10-27 Thread ant elder
+1, sounds really interesting, I'd be happy to be a mentor too if you
need another.

   ...ant

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Gavin ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:
 This looks interesting, I'd be happy to help Mentor and have already put my
 name down.

 Gav...

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Querna [mailto:p...@querna.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2009 5:00 PM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: [PROPOSAL] Libcloud Project

 Hi,

 I would like to propose incubating the existing Libcloud project to
 join the ASF:

 Proposal  Wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LibcloudProposal

 Libcloud is a unified Python API around many common cloud services
 provider, and I believe it could benefit greatly by joining the Apache
 Software Foundation.  I also believe the ASF needs more Python
 projects, and more projects involved in the developing cloud
 infrastructure.  We still need a few mentors, so feel free to signup
 :-)

 We would appreciate feedback and comments on the proposal.

 Full proposal is bellow.

 Thanks,

 Paul

 
 Libcloud, a unified interface to the cloud

 Abstract

 libcloud (http://www.libcloud.org) is a pure python client library
 for interacting with many of the popular cloud server providers. It
 was created to make it easy for developers to build products that work
 between any of the services that it supports.

 Proposal

     * Provide unified API for manipulating servers instances across
 many hosting providers who provide an API to manipulate instances.
 Current API includes: list, reboot, create, destroy, list images, list
 sizes.

     * (future) Provide utilities for manipulating and creating server
 images in many formats. (See the independent Stacklet project for
 ideas)

     * (future) Provide unified API for storing large objects on
 popular hosting provider storage APIs.

 Background

 While there are some projects to create open standards for
 interoperability within the cloud, most have failed to gain widespread
 adoption. Libcloud takes the approach of exposing a unified API to
 cover multiple vendor's APIs, and in the future to support standard
 APIs, assuming they become prevalent.

 Rationale

 There is a strong need in the developing cloud infrastructure for a
 community supported, high quality, and vendor independent tool set for
 managing servers and their resources. When new servers are just an API
 call away, traditional infrastructure models are changing quickly.
 Having a good library built around Apache's values and tradition will
 enable new server infrastructure to evolve much more quickly.

 Initial Goals

 Libcloud is an existing open source project, with patches from many
 different contributors. We view the moving to Apache as a way to
 improve this community, and look into future APIs around creating
 server images and large object storage.

 Current Status

 Libcloud is already open source under the ASL 2.0:

     * Libcloud Website http://www.libcloud.org
     * Libcloud Mailing Lists http://groups.google.com/group/libcloud
     * Libcloud Source Control http://github.com/cloudkick/libcloud

 Meritocracy

 Libcloud has involvement from members of both the ASF and other open
 source projects. Communication is driven by both IRC and E-Mail lists.

 Community

 Currently libcloud has several contributors, but not a large user
 community other than a few companies. We would like to increase our
 userbase as part of the incubator process.

 Core Developers

 Alex Polvi who wrote most of the original code is familiar with open
 source from working at OSUOSL and at Mozilla. Tom Davis drove much of
 the re factoring of the initial code base. Jed Smith, Ivan Meredith,
 Jeremy Orem, Jerry Chen and Paul Querna (ASF member) have all
 contributed mainly to developing provider specific drivers.

 Alignment

 Currently there are not many Apache communities involved with cloud
 computing or python based infrastructure. We believe introducing such
 a community is a good thing for the Apache Software Foundation.

 Known Risks

 Orphaned products

 libcloud is being used actively by Cloudkick to develop services. It
 is a core part of our ongoing infrastructure improvements.

 Inexperience with Open Source

 libcloud was open sourced in July 2009, during OSCON. Core
 contributors include former employees of Mozilla and an ASF member.

 Homogenous Developers

 Much of the initial development was done by Cloudkick, but much of the
 core design was re-factored by the community, and many of the drivers
 for each provider have been contributed by 3rd parties.

 Reliance on Salaried Developers

 The majority, but not all, of the developers are paid by their
 employer to work on libcloud at this time.

 Relationships with Other Apache Products

 Libcloud doesn't share many attributes with existing Apache projects
 due to it being in Python and addressing a new need.

 A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand

 Libcloud project 

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-27 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bryant Luk bryant@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Leo,

 Thanks for the links.  One general comment I have is that I understand
 this is part of the incubation process (and no offense intended to Leo
 since obviously taking energy and time for this) but if I can't look
 and see if other Apache projects are doing things the right way, I
 think we should have more examples of what goes in the NOTICE and
 LICENSE files and points out licenses/situations/projects/wording that
 require that they be put in LICENSE/NOTICE files and not.  It seems to
 be a common sticking point on this list for incubator projects.  I
 would put up a patch for the website but obviously I am still
 learning.

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Bryant Luk bryant@gmail.com wrote:
 The source release has a LICENSE and a NOTICE file that indicates it
 contains a bunch of stuff it does not actually contain. AFAICS it
 should simply have a LICENSE that is just the Apache License and a
 NOTICE file that has just our standard license header.

 I think you're suggesting a different LICENSE/NOTICE for source versus
 binary distributions.

 Yep, I see how it looks like thatthough maybe I'm _really_
 suggesting a source-only distribution :-)

 Look, the general rule is quite simple: LICENSE files MUST contain all
 the license information that applies to an artifact, and SHOULD
 contain only the license information that applies to that artifact.
 Similarly, NOTICE files MUST contain all the notices that apply to an
 artifact, and SHOULD contain only the notice information that applies
 to that artifact.

 Whenever you violate that SHOULD, you are turning lazyness/sloppiness
 into a mess for your users.

 For example, with this current wink distribution, you are (appear to
 be?) passing on a lot of CDDL obligations down to wink users, which is
 annoying to users that care about such things. If all your user wants
 to do is copy/paste the glue code from GzipHandler, that's a rather
 heavy license to wade through. Similarly, that user of that
 GzipHandler code now has to copy/paste the entire contents of the
 NOTICE file.

 Do you really want to place a burden on your users like that?

 I wouldn't, however just out of curiosity, how does this apply with
 Section 4.4 of the Apache license?

 If the Work includes a NOTICE text file as part of its
 distribution, then any Derivative Works that You distribute must
 include a readable copy of the attribution notices contained within
 such NOTICE file, excluding those notices that do not pertain to any
 part of the Derivative Works, in at least one of the following places:
 within a NOTICE text file distributed as part of the Derivative
 Works;...

 I would consider that a copied portion of just the Apache Wink code to
 be a Derivative Work, and none of the other NOTICE attributions (CDDL)
 apply to the user (hence excluding those notices so their NOTICE file
 is relatively brief).  I'm not a lawyer but just want some
 clarification for this use case for personal knowledge.

 I did some random checking looking at some
 source versus binary Apache project distributions (incubator and
 non-incubator) and as far as I can tell, they kept their same LICENSE
 and NOTICE files even though they were not re-distributing the
 dependency binaries in the source archive.

 Don't mean to say we should just follow the crowd, but I don't think
 this is standard practice unless another thread has a viewpoint on
 this.

 Unfortunately, most apache projects are not as good at following
 policies as they should be, and most engineers (including me! :-) )
 are not nearly as good at applying legal rules and guidelines as they
 should be.

 Agreed.

 http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#license

 What Are The Requirements To Distribute Other Artifacts In Addition
 To The Source Package?
 ...
 Nothing in this section is meant to supersede the requirements defined
 here and here that all releases be primarily based on a signed
 source package.

 The NOTICE file for the binary release should include only those
 notices that are actually required by the included library
 dependencies, and they should reproduce the exact text of those
 notices. For example, the slf4j notice line should not be there since
 slf4j does not require it.

 I see varying degrees of attribution to slf4j in other Apache
 (incubating and non-incubating) projects (some have none, some have a
 line).  The slf4j line was kept from the Wink 0.1 release.  IMHO, this
 is not a release blocker, but we can remove it in a future release if
 it is the right thing to do.

 Fortunately we have quite a clear rule on this topic these days, so no
 opinions are necessary:

 http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#notice-content

 What Content Is Appropriate For The NOTICE File?
 ...
 Only mandatory information required by the product's software
 licenses. Not suitable 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Libcloud proposal for incubation

2009-10-29 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote:
 Libcloud proposal thread went well, and we added several mentors.  I
 would like to start the vote to incubate Libcloud into the ASF.

 The proposal is included below and is also at:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LibcloudProposal

 Please cast your votes:

 [ ] +1 Accept Libcloud for incubation
 [ ] +0 Indifferent to Libcloud incubation
 [ ] -1 Reject Libcloud for incubation


+1

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Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

2009-11-09 Thread ant elder
Looks good to me +1

   ...ant

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.comwrote:

 Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated.

 In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the Wink
 community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we just need
 one more +1 to release as the vote has already been open for 72 hours.




 Nicholas Gallardo
 WebSphere - REST  WebServices Development
 nlgal...@us.ibm.com
 Phone: 512-286-6258
 Building: 903 / 5G-016

 [image: Inactive hide details for Leo Simons ---11/09/2009 06:38:57 AM---+1
 from me!]Leo Simons ---11/09/2009 06:38:57 AM---+1 from me!


 *Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com*

 11/09/2009 06:38 AM
 Please respond to
 general@incubator.apache.org


 To

 general@incubator.apache.org
 cc


 Subject

 Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

 +1 from me!

 cheers,

 Leo

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas Gallardo
 nickgalla...@yahoo.com wrote:
  The Wink community has voted on and approved the release
  of Wink 1.0 (RC-5).  We would now like to request the
  approval of the Incubator PMC for this release.
 
  Details of the Wink community vote can be found here:
  http://n2.nabble.com/VOTE-Release-Wink-1-0-RC-5-td3936613.html#a3936613
 
  The Maven staging area is at:
  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachewink-011/
 
  The distributions are in:
 
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachewink-011/org/apache/wink/apache-wink/1.0-incubating/
 
  This release is tagged at:
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/tags/wink-1.0-incubating/  
 (revision
 832289)
 
  The vote will be open here for at least 72 hours.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  -Nick

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Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

2009-11-09 Thread ant elder
Yep, I agree with what Kevan just said, so you're good to go now.

   ...ant

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.comwrote:

 Thanks Ant. Do you have any input on the question below?

  Is that vote [mentor/IPMC member] transportable here?




 Nicholas Gallardo
 WebSphere - REST  WebServices Development
 nlgal...@us.ibm.com
 Phone: 512-286-6258
 Building: 903 / 5G-016

 [image: Inactive hide details for ant elder ---11/09/2009 08:43:50
 AM---Looks good to me +1]ant elder ---11/09/2009 08:43:50 AM---Looks good
 to me +1


 *ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com*

 11/09/2009 08:42 AM
  Please respond to
 general@incubator.apache.org


 To

 general@incubator.apache.org
 cc


 Subject

 Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

 Looks good to me +1

   ...ant

 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.com
 wrote:

  Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated.
 
  In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the Wink
  community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we just need
  one more +1 to release as the vote has already been open for 72 hours.
 
 
 
 
  Nicholas Gallardo
  WebSphere - REST  WebServices Development
  nlgal...@us.ibm.com
  Phone: 512-286-6258
  Building: 903 / 5G-016
 
  [image: Inactive hide details for Leo Simons ---11/09/2009 06:38:57
 AM---+1
  from me!]Leo Simons ---11/09/2009 06:38:57 AM---+1 from me!
 
 
  *Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com*
 
  11/09/2009 06:38 AM
  Please respond to
  general@incubator.apache.org
 
 
  To
 
  general@incubator.apache.org
  cc
 
 
  Subject
 
  Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)
 
  +1 from me!
 
  cheers,
 
  Leo
 
  On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas Gallardo
  nickgalla...@yahoo.com wrote:
   The Wink community has voted on and approved the release
   of Wink 1.0 (RC-5).  We would now like to request the
   approval of the Incubator PMC for this release.
  
   Details of the Wink community vote can be found here:
  
 http://n2.nabble.com/VOTE-Release-Wink-1-0-RC-5-td3936613.html#a3936613
  
   The Maven staging area is at:
   https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachewink-011/
  
   The distributions are in:
  
 
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachewink-011/org/apache/wink/apache-wink/1.0-incubating/
  
   This release is tagged at:
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/tags/wink-1.0-incubating/
 (revision
  832289)
  
   The vote will be open here for at least 72 hours.
  
  
   Regards,
  
   -Nick
 
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Re: [VOTE] Request for Waiver of Make a Release requirement for Incubator graduation

2009-11-10 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello IPMC,

 The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
 a release before graduation.

 As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
 demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at the ASF.
 Packaging, licensing, signing, placement into the distrubtion/mirror
 system, announcements, among others[1]. We believe that the Subversion
 community already has a deep understanding of the Apache release
 model, based on the following qualifications of several of its
 committers/mentors:

 * Greg Stein has been a committer at Apache since before the
 Foundation was started. He has been involved in releases of httpd and
 APR, including time as Release Manager (RM) for APR. He helped to
 establish the APR TLP and the Commons TLP (prior incarnation; now
 defunct). Greg wrote the versioning guidelines for APR, which are also
 in use by the Subversion project. Through his 8+ years on the Board,
 he has read and reviewed reports from across the ASF about release,
 IP, and infrastructure issues.

 * Justin Erenkrantz has been a committer since 2001, contributing to
 httpd and APR, along with mentoring the stdcxx project when it was in
 the Incubator. He has been the RM for both httpd and APR. In fact,
 Justin wrote the initial guidelines for the release of httpd. Justin
 has been part of Infrastructure almost since its inception as a
 distinct group, which includes the provision of all the facilities to
 actually make and distribute ASF releases. Justin has spent many years
 on the Board, providing further insight to releases across the
 Foundation.

 * Sander Striker has been a committer since 2001, contributing to APR
 and then httpd. Sander acted as the RM for httpd releases, and also
 held a stint as the VP for httpd. Add in his time spent with
 Infrastructure and the Board, and he's been observing ASF releases for
 many years.

 * Garrett Rooney has been a committer since 2004, contributing and
 making releases of APR, and committing to httpd. He was also the VP of
 APR for several years, and has mentored two Incubating projects.

 * Daniel Rall has been a committer since 2001, contributing to many
 projects: Turbine, Fulcrum, Torque, and numerous Jakarta Commons
 projects. He established the community around XML-RPC, brought it
 through the Incubator, and maintained it for several years within the
 XML Project. He also participated in some of the bootstrapping around
 the Velocity and Maven prtingojects, and participated on the Infra team.

 The Subversion community's belief is that we have ample experience to
 guide us in making a release, when that time is arrives. There will
 certainly be variances (e.g. mirroring) from our current established
 procedures[2], but some simple fine-tuning should resolve that. The
 bulk of the existing release process already meets and exceeds that a
 typical Apache release. Niclas Hedman pointed out that the Subversion
 community has produced 32 releases over the past four years, which
 hopefully indicates a smooth, understood, and functional release
 process.

 Cheers,
 -g

 [1] one particular item is using a release as a gating/focal point for
 legal review, but we feel that can be performed as an action
 separate/distinct from performing a release
 [2] http://subversion.tigris.org/release-process.html


-0

I'm not at all familiar with how the Subversion project works so as an
IPMC member I don't see how I can decide this before they've even
started incubating. This is a graduation issue, why can't it just wait
until then and say in the graduation proposal there's not been a
release but its not necessary because of x y z.

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Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-11 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote:

 As Martijn alluded to, I think we'd need some more context as to why and how
 they use RTC.


This appears to be where it came from:

 http://markmail.org/message/d45dmasuwnda25wd

so about 6 months ago to try to help with problems they were having,
and since then 99% of the commits have been made by only two people.

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Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-11 Thread ant elder
I agree with that. And before graduation I think it might be worth
trying to get CTR used more, they do seem open this -
http://markmail.org/message/i255ekzxpuesow44

   ...ant

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a strong opinion, but I think that RTC hampers the free-flow of
 ideas, experimentation, evolution, and creativity. It is a damper on
 expressivity. You maneuver bureaucracy to get a change in. CTR is
 about making a change and discussing it. But you get *forward
 progress*.

 I also feel that RTC will tend towards *exclusivity* rather than the
 Apache ideal of *inclusivity*. That initial review is a social and
 mental burden for new committers. People are afraid enough of
 submitting patches and trying to join into a development community,
 without making them run through a front-loaded process.

 I've participated in both styles of development. RTC is *stifling*. I
 would never want to see that in any Apache community for its routine
 development (branch releases are another matter).

 My opinion is that it is very unfortunate that Cassandra feels that it
 cannot trust its developers with a CTR model, and pushes RTC as its
 methodology. The group-mind smashes down the creativity of the
 individual, excited, free-thinking contributor.

 Cheers,
 -g

 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:09, Matthieu Riou matth...@offthelip.org wrote:
 Hi guys,

 What's the take of other mentors and the IPMC on podlings practicing RTC?
 I'm asking because some seem to see it as a blocker for graduation whereas I
 see it much more as a development methodology with little community impact
 and therefore no real influence on graduation. Strong opinions here?

 Thanks,
 Matthieu


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Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-12 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 07:16 +, ant elder wrote:
 so about 6 months ago to try to help with problems they were having,
 and since then 99% of the commits have been made by only two people.

 I assume you're referring to Jonathan Ellis and myself, and I'm not sure
 that's exactly fair. There are only 4 active committers, and of the 4,
 Jonathan and I spend the most time committing patches contributed by
 people who can't, and quite often the review was conducted by someone
 else who doesn't have commit rights and we are simply acting as a proxy.
 This results in a lot of svn commits made by us, for contributions that
 are not technically ours.

 As a convention, we typically put something like Patch by $author;
 reviewed by $reviewer for $issue_id in the change description. I just
 went through the commits scraping out those messages and it looks like
 Jonathan and I account for a little more than 60%, not 99%.

 --
 Eric Evans
 eev...@rackspace.com


So about 40% of the committed code is coming from others and reviewed
by others - great - why not make some of those others committers?

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Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-12 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:24 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 So about 40% of the committed code is coming from others and reviewed
 by others - great - why not make some of those others committers?

 It's a long tail sort of thing.

 We follow the convention Johan suggested of assigning the Jira issue
 to the author of the change, so e.g. for 05 the contributions look
 like this: 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?versionId=12314040issueStatus=allselectedProjectId=12310865reportKey=com.sourcelabs.jira.plugin.report.contributions%3AcontributionreportNext=Next


That JIRA report shows a range of contributors that many TLPs would be
envious of, and it shows a quite different picture from the commit
history, eg:

http://www.svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?from=20090801to=20091231path=%2Fincubator%2Fcassandra

It would be great to get more of those contributors actually doing the
commits though, maybe modifying the current commit process as is being
suggested in this thread could help get that to happen.

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Re: [VOTE] release Apache VCL 2.1

2009-11-24 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:10 AM, sebb wrote:

 On 23/11/2009, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:

 On Nov 23, 2009, at 5:49 PM, sebb wrote:


 There is only a bz2 archive.
 Normally projects release archives in zip andr tar.gz format which are
 more commonly supported.

 IMO, this is a release blocker


 Just curious why you think this is a blocker? Each project knows better
 what formats are common and acceptable in the target user community. There's
 no single distribution format and this is not a blocker IMO.

 The project OS targets include Windows, which does not support BZ2
 natively by default, whereas Windows does now support Zip archives.

 AFAIK, all other ASF releases use both tar.gz and zip archives.

 Personally, I don't see how this is a blocking issue. It is unusual. However, 
 I leave it up to the VCL community to decide what archive format is meeting 
 the needs of their users.


I agree with that, maybe it would be worth looking at having tar.gz
and zips in later releases but this doesn't seem to me like a blocker
for this one. I've reviewed the release artifacts and they look ok to
me so +1 on the release.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Clerezza into the incubator

2009-11-24 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür
reto.bachm...@trialox.org wrote:
 Please vote on accepting Apache Clerezza for incubation at the Apache
 Incubator. The full proposal is available at the end of this message and
 as a wiki page at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ClerezzaProposal
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AceProposal. We ask the Incubator PMC
 to sponsor it, with Bertrand as the Champion, and Gianugo, Niclas, Ross,
 Karl and Reinhard volunteering to be Mentors.

 Please cast your votes:

 [ ] +1, bring Clerezza into Incubator
 [ ] +0, I don't care either way,
 [ ] -1, do not bring Clerezza into Incubator, because...

 The vote is open for the next 72 hours and only votes from the Incubator
 PMC are binding.

 - - - - - - - - - -

 Abstract

 Clerezza is an OSGi-based modular application and set of components
 (bundles) for building RESTFul Semantic Web applications and services.

 Proposal

 Clerezza can be used as a platform providing all the compile and runtime
 requirement for building semantic applications, or used as individual
 bundles within an OSGi framework, e.g. Apache Sling, Apache ServiceMix,
 or the Eclipse platform.

 Clerezza provides:

    * An API modeling the W3C RDF standard without any vendor specific
 additions.
    * Adapter for various triple stores including Sesame, Jena TDB, and
 Mulgara.
    * Front-End adaptors, currently to run applications written against
 the Jena API. Support for RDF2Go is planned.
    * A JAX-RS implementation designed to work in an OSGi environment
 and allowing to provide Root-Resources as OSGi services.
    * Web access to RDF graphs, including a SPARQL-Endpoint.
    * Extensions to JAX-RS allowing to bind Root-Resource classes to
 specific RDF-Types rather than to URI-Paths.
    * Templating mechanism (Renderlets) allowing to render RDF resources
 returned by JAX-RS resource methods to various formats
    *

      Support for Scala for writing modules, ScalaServerPages to easily
 write renderlets, DSL for accessing graphs.
    * Authentication and authorization based on JAAS and OSGi
 Conditional Permission Admin
    * Support for user bundles: Users can have a permission to upload
 their own sandboxed bundles. The URI space these bundles are allowed to
 register their JAX-RS resources can be limited with a prefix.
    * Scripting: Scripting based on javax.script (currently support for
 JRuby and Scala)
    * Documentation: Bundles can provide their documentation in RDF.
 These are used for online documentation as well as for building Maven
 sites (with a Maven reporting plugin)

 The RDF abstraction layer can be used independently of other aspects of
 Clerezza. It allows applications to be written regardless the used
 backend. In its purpose, it is similar to RDF2Go, but provides a
 significantly more modular interface allowing e.g. to independently
 switch the storage, querying, or serialization layer. Furthermore, it
 doesn't introduce concepts alien to the RDF model such as blank node
 labels, but is in its core strictly limited to RDF semantics.

 The JAX-RS implementation can also be used independently of any other
 components. It allows OSGi services to provide a RESTful interface to
 their methods. By being based on wymiwyg WRHAPI, it can run both on the
 default OSGi Web Service as well as on a jetty instance listening on a
 different port.

 Background

 The current web trends focusing on information sharing, interoperability
 and collaboration. Therefore the behaviour of the end-user has changed
 over the last years: end-users not only consuming information they also
 producing content anytime anywhere - in contrast to non-interactive
 websites where users are limited to the passive viewing of information
 that is provided to them. Since the end-users are sensitized to the
 possibilities of the web the web application requirements increases.
 Examples of such applications are social-networking sites, wikis, blogs
 and mashups.

 The REST paradigm and Semantic Web technologies support these trends and
 form the basis for the upcoming Web of Data (a.k.a. linked data, Web
 3.0). They change the paradigms for developing complex Web applications.
 Clerezza allows to develop applications that integrate perfectly in the
 Semantic Web providing all accessible resources in machine
 understandable formats without imposing additional burdens on the
 developer. Additionally, thanks to the flexibility of the RDF model used
 as back-end, some tedious database related tasks required for
 traditional Web application development are no longer needed.

 Rationale

 Most Web application framework are not designed to leverage the full
 power of HTTP but often try to reproduce non Web design patterns for the
 Web environment. In general, application frameworks are oriented towards
 relational or hierarchical data structures. While attempts to overcome
 this such as Drupal have become very popular, they do not at their core

Re: Where to add PPMC member additions?

2009-11-26 Thread ant elder
I'm not sure I've ever seen PPMC members listed anywhere, the only way
i've found them is from the subscribers to the poddlings private list.

   ...ant

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote:
 ping? anyone know the answer?

 I can't find the file referenced, nor can I find any other file where
 PPMCs are supposed to keep their list updated?

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Leif Hedstrom zw...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, it says (towards the
 end) to add new PPMC members to this SVN file:

    https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/incubator-info.txt


 but, I get a 404 not found on that URL. Where do I add new PPMC members for
 our project (Traffic Server) ? I'll update our incubator page with the
 committer additions we're making, but I want to make sure I update
 everything as required here.

 Thanks,

 -- leif


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Re: [VOTE] release cassandra 0.5.0-beta1

2009-11-27 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:

 The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
 Cassandra 0.5.0-beta1. We would now like to request the approval of the
 Incubator PMC for this release.

 Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed,
 structured key-value store.

 Podling vote thread:
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/586
 0.5.0-beta1 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans
 SVN tag:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cassandra/tags/cassandra-0.5.0-beta1
 Project home: http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/
 Incubation status: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cassandra.html

 We received one binding vote during the poddling vote, so we'll need 2
 more. Any help with reviewing/voting from outside our mentors list would
 be appreciated.

 The vote will remain open for 72 hours (or longer if needed).

 Regards,


 --
 Eric Evans
 eev...@rackspace.com



+1

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Re: [VOTE] Release RC3 as Log4PHP 2.0.0

2009-12-06 Thread ant elder
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Curt Arnold carn...@apache.org wrote:
 The log4php PPMC vote was opened on log4php-dev at Nov 27, 2009 and closed at 
 Dec 4, 2009.  Binding +1 votes were received from Christian Grobmeier, 
 Christian Hammers and Curt Arnold.  No other votes were received.

 The link in the original thread ends at the end of November.  The PPMC 
 release vote thread  continues 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200912.mbox/%3cded132f10912050048u695e1353ta29b54a39e620...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 I did raise a concern on a previous RC that the phpdoc generated 
 documentation does not have an ASF source header notice, but 
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-license-headers
  implied that it may not be a hard requirement.

 I would encourage any PHP developers to double check the PEAR packaging and 
 particularly in terms of consistency with other Apache PHP projects.



 On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

 Dear Incubator PMC,

 the Log4PHP has voted with 3x +1 for releasing RC3 as Log4PHP 2.0.0
 (please see below).

 The original vote message can be found:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/logging-log4php-dev/200911.mbox/%3cded132f10911262256j12c0cfej21e7e5dbdcf18...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 Message ID is: ded132f10911262256j12c0cfej21e7e5dbdcf18bf7

 We kindly ask the incubator PMC to vote on our artifacts too:

 [ ] +1 Yes go ahead and release the artifacts
 [ ] -1 No, because...

 Thanks,
 Christian




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+1

Note that the date in the NOTICE files is 2004-2007. There was a long
discussion on the date format on legal-discuss not so long ago and
from what i recall this is not a release blocker.

Also there's a bunch of html files in docs\log4php that don't have an
Apache License header, it wasn't obvious if they are generated or not
but it could be worth seeing if the header can be added to them.

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Re: [VOTE] release cassandra 0.5.0-beta2

2009-12-10 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:
 The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
 Cassandra 0.5.0-beta2. We would now like to request the approval of the
 Incubator PMC for this release.

 Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed,
 structured key-value store.

 Podling vote thread: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/696
 0.5.0-beta2 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans
 SVN tag: 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cassandra/tags/cassandra-0.5.0-beta2
 Project home: http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/
 Incubation status: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cassandra.html

 We received two binding votes[1][2] during the poddling vote, so we'll need 1
 more. Any help with reviewing/voting from outside our mentors list would be
 appreciated.

 The vote will remain open for 72 hours (or longer if needed).

 Regards,


 [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/700
 [2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/702

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 eev...@rackspace.com



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-10 Thread ant elder
A quick search so there has been some discussion on commons-dev - [1]

Does this really need to be incubated - the proposal says its intended
to graduate to Apache Commons and replace the existing Validator 1.x
component as a new 2.0 codebase, from the discussion on commons-dev
everyone seems fine with that out come, and only 2 of the 7 proposed
committers are not existing Validator or ASF committers - so couldn't
this just go straight to commons as a code grant and make the two new
guys committers in recognition of contibuting the new code?

  ...ant

[1] 
http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=jsr+303+list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev#query:jsr%20303%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev%20order%3Adate-backward+page:1+state:facets


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 what about the effort from the Jakarta/Commons Validator community?
 Aren't they doing that as well ? (or was it only stated to do so)?

 -Matthias

 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I would like to present an incubator proposal for a new Validation podling,
 which would be a JSR-303 Bean Validation follow-on to the existing Apache
 Commons Validation 1.x project, but based on a new incoming codebase with a
 software grant from Agimatec GmbH.

 The proposal is available on the wiki at:

   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal


 We're looking forward to your feedback and interest in anyone wanting to
 join and help out on the project.


 Thanks,
 Donald

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Niall Pemberton
niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:56 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 A quick search so there has been some discussion on commons-dev - [1]

 Does this really need to be incubated - the proposal says its intended
 to graduate to Apache Commons and replace the existing Validator 1.x
 component as a new 2.0 codebase, from the discussion on commons-dev
 everyone seems fine with that out come, and only 2 of the 7 proposed
 committers are not existing Validator or ASF committers - so couldn't
 this just go straight to commons as a code grant and make the two new
 guys committers in recognition of contibuting the new code?

 I raised this on priv...@commons and reported back to d...@commons on
 that discussion here:

 http://markmail.org/message/lkyjl6gaxawspgdt

 In summary though, there was very little support to go that route and
 some objections.

 All commons components share the same set of mailing lists which makes
 it easier for PMC members to provide oversight for the 30+ components
 that live there. As part of this proposal we want to use the commons
 mailing lists for commits and discussion so that by the time this
 podling is ready to graduate the new committers and Commons PMC will
 have a better knowledge of each other and there will be no issue with
 voting in the new committers.

 The use of the commons mailing lists is in the proposal and was part
 of the vote held on d...@commons to sponsor this incubation effort:

 http://markmail.org/message/mqdft736b5vasezs

 Niall


From the first email referenced was Roman ever asked if he'd mind
submitting patches for a while to earn Karma if the code did go
straight to commons? Seems a bit a of a shame to need to go the whole
incubation process just for one commit access.

Re the the poddling use the existing commons mailing lists its may be
worth pointing out this recent thread:
http://apache.markmail.org/message/ifinvq7wqmeoo5ix

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Re: [VOTE] Release Thrift 0.2.0

2009-12-11 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Todd Lipcon t...@cloudera.com wrote:
 Hi Kevan,

 Responses below:

 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 What's the license for the file: doc/thrift.tex?


 This was contributed by Facebook, and thus falls under the Facebook
 CLA as Apache 2.0 licensed. I'm not sure how it got missed in the
 license audit, but since it's only part of the source tree, doesn't
 link with anything (solely documentation), and actually doesn't get
 installed by make install, is it a release blocker? (ie do I need to
 roll an rc1 and call a new vote on thrift-dev, or can I just fix it in
 svn for next release?)


I think its ok to add that header later, and the rest of it looks ok
to me so +1 from me.

   ...ant

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Re: Cassandra PPMC?

2009-12-12 Thread ant elder
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 ...Podlings PPMCs are reflected somewhere in asf-authorization? How so? In 
 any
 case Eric is part of the Cassandra PPMC and I can co-sign if necessary

 Is there a public list of PPMC members somewhere?

 I haven't found it at either
 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cassandra.html or
 http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/

 -Bertrand


The PPMC is a bit of an artificial construct so AFAIK there is no
place where PPMC membership is recorded, usually the only record of it
is in the poddlings private list archive. The list of subscribers to
the private list gives an indication though there'll also be all the
mentors and possibly other ASF members included in that list that need
to be sifted through.

   ...ant

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Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)

2009-12-13 Thread ant elder
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
 The Board has in the past condemned balkanization of community, and my
 take on this situation is exactly that.

 This is not yet another web framework, which often brought forward as
 examples that the ASF encourages competition within. Those typically have a
 different angle, approach or metaphor, something making each very
 different beasts. But in this case we are talking about the same spec.
 There is no real distinguishing features and huge overlap of commonality.

 I think this is a NIH-syndrome in play, in the best case oh we have the
 code working already and the worst case we don't like to collaborate with
 them, and there is reason to think that that goes for both sides of the
 fence.

 I want to see Chemistry capable to absorb such contribution and collaborate
 heavily to bring such codebase in.
 And I want to see the people of the OpenCMIS proposal to show that they
 indeed can work with others.

 Exactly how the merged community goes about with the technical integration
 is its own business, but I am worried that the new codebase will not receive
 the welcome I hope, the Chemistry base will dominate, and the OpenCMIS
 proposer get fed up and leaves. Important Mentors understand the risks here,
 and keep eyes extra open for attrition, domination and forceful
 consensus-seeking.


I agree with those sentiments.

 I think discussion should continue on Chemistry dev@ list. If agreement
 can't be reached there, then I am NOT in favor of incubating OpenCMIS
 separately and will vote -1 to such proposal. I will also form myself an
 opinion of how well Chemistry is trying to collaborate, and it may improve
 or deteriorate its status with me.


I don't think it would be helpful for either OpenCMIS or Chemistry for
the IPMC to just unilaterally dictate that it must be done in
Chemistry. IMHO that would make for too unlevel a playing field which
could adversely impact any attempts to collaborate (or even just get
stuff done). That works both ways - it would be hard for OpenCMIS
being forced to be part of Chemistry, but also potentially hard for
Chemistry to all of a sudden have a significant number of new
committers forced upon them and upsetting the status quo.

The Incubator has always been very clear about having a very low bar
of entry to incubation so IMHO it shouldn't matter that the incoming
podling is doing the same spec as another poddling, thats something
that could be worked out during incubation. So I'd +1 accepting this
new OpenCMIS proposal (if they can find champion and mentors). If
we're really concerned about having multiple spec impls then we can
make this a graduation requirement - neither Chemistry or OpenCMIS
graduate until they've both worked out how to exist together.


 This can become an excellent opportunity for all involved to show off their
 ApacheWay skills


+1!

 -- Niclas


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Re: [VOTE] release cassandra 0.5.0-rc1

2009-12-30 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:

 The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
 Cassandra 0.5.0-rc1. We would now like to request the approval of the
 Incubator PMC for this release.

 Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed,
 structured key-value store.

 Podling vote thread:
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/728
 0.5.0-rc1 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans
 SVN tag:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cassandra/tags/cassandra-0.5.0-rc1
 Project home: http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/
 Incubation status: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cassandra.html

 We received only one (IPMC )binding vote[1] during the poddling vote, so
 we'll need two more. Any help with reviewing/voting from outside our
 mentors list would be appreciated.

 The vote will remain open for 72 hours (or longer if needed).

 Regards,

 [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/734

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-31 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Niall Pemberton
niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote:



 This is not quite the scenario. We have a *dormant* component
 (validator) in Commons and a couple of ASF committers (not commons
 committers) have shown up proposing to re-write that component to
 implement the new Bean Valiadation specification. Recently one of
 those committers proposed adopting this existing code-base written by
 someone else which is already 80% complete. I was the last active
 committer on the Commons Validator component and all I'm trying to do
 is facilitate those that want to revive it and bring in the new code
 base. So its more a case of other people think Commons would be an
 appropriate home - so far none of the existing Commons committers has
 shown any interest in the codebase. Personally my interest in helping
 make this happen though is now dying 'coz this is way too painful.


It doesn't have to be painful. This thread has been running a few
weeks now if it really is wanted to be done in the Incubator just call
a vote on that now. The champion and mentors are Incubator PMC members
so it'll likely get enough +1s (though the vote might go more smoothly
if the part about using the commons mailing lists is removed). The
Commons PMC is effectively saying we don't want to take responsibility
and giving it to the Incubator PMC who from the comments on this
thread will likely think its ready to graduate almost immediately so
can vote to graduate it at the earliest opportunity and give it right
back to Commons. Making work for ourselves but so be it. It doesnt
look like theres been any comments about this on commons dev or
private since the proposal was submitted to the Incubator so it may be
worth first asking there again if they'd review this thread and
reconsider not doing it via the software grant route.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] release cassandra 0.5.0-rc3

2010-01-08 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:
 The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
 Cassandra 0.5.0-rc3. We would now like to request the approval of the
 Incubator PMC for this release.

 Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed,
 structured key-value store.

 Podling vote thread: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/764
 0.5.0-rc3 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans
 SVN tag:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cassandra/tags/cassandra-0.5.0-rc3
 Project home: http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/
 Incubation status: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cassandra.html

 We received one (IPMC )binding vote[1] during the poddling vote, so we'll
 need at least a couple more here.

 The vote will remain open for 72 hours (or longer if needed).

 Regards,


 [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/766

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Re: [VOTE] Release Olio 0.2

2010-01-11 Thread ant elder
+1

The Java src archive seems to include some of the binary artifacts (eg
webapp.war), the license/notice covers everything so its not an issue
just pointing it out in case its not intentional.

   ...ant

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Shanti Subramanyam
shanti.subraman...@gmail.com wrote:
 A reminder to please take a look at the Olio release and Vote.

 Thanks
 Shanti

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Shanti Subramanyam shanti.subraman...@sun.com
 Date: Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:39 PM
 Subject: [VOTE] Release Olio 0.2
 To: general@incubator.apache.org


 The Olio community has voted to release Olio 0.2. We now request the
 Incubator PMC for a vote.

 The proposed release artifacts are located at
 http://people.apache.org/~shanti/olio_0.2.
 There are 3 versions (PHP, Rails and Java) in both binary and source
 formats. Each package is available in both tar and zip format and include
 asc and md5 checksums. The file names should be self-explanatory.

 The rat outputs are in *rat-0.2.out.

 The link to the voting thread can be found here :
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-olio-dev/200912.mbox/browser

 Please do review the artifacts and we would appreciate it if you could cast
 your vote by Jan 12.

 Thanks in advance
 Shanti


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Re: Fw: [VOTE] Imperius 1.0.0 rc6

2010-01-12 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Neeraj Joshi jnee...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 We still need two more binding votes for our first release. Would really
 appreciate it if anyone can take some time to review our release.
 Thanks
 Neeraj
 ~
 It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my
 reasons for them. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

 Neeraj Joshi (knee-rudge)
 Apache Imperius - http://incubator.apache.org/imperius
 ~
 - Forwarded by Neeraj Joshi/Durham/IBM on 01/12/2010 10:28 AM -

 From:
 Neeraj Joshi/Durham/i...@ibmus
 To:
 general@incubator.apache.org
 Date:
 12/14/2009 04:43 PM
 Subject:
 [VOTE] Imperius 1.0.0 rc6



 The Imperius community voted on and approved the release of Apache
 Imperius 1.0.0.
 We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this
 release.

 Imperius is a rule-based policy evaluation engine based on the CIM-SPL
 language from
 Distributed Management Task Force (dtmf.org).


  The Imperius 1.0.0  RC6 release candidate has been tagged, packaged,
  and is ready for a vote. The artifacts, KEYS file, RAT report and release


  notes can  be found at

  http://people.apache.org/~jneeraj/apache-imperius-1.0.0-rc6/

  The tag from which the release artifacts were generated can be found
  at

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/imperius/tags/release1.0.0rc6/

  Revision no is 887217

  In addition, my PGP public code signing key can be found at the MIT
  key server (http://pgp.mit.edu/)

  The KEYS file is checked in at
 http://svn.apache.org.repos/asf/incubator/imperius/KEYS

  Please vote to publish this release by Tuesday, Dec 17 18:00 EST.,
  please include the testing you performed to arrive at your vote
  [  ] +1 Publish
  [  ]   0 Abstain
  [  ] -1 Don't publish, because...


 Below is a summary of the vote on the Imperius mailing list (and further
 below is the original vote email)

 Thanks
 Neeraj


 ~
 Neeraj Joshi (knee-rudge)

 IBM WebSphere ComputeGrid

 Apache Imperius - http://incubator.apache.org/imperius
 ~



 From:
 Neeraj Joshi/Durham/i...@ibmus
 To:
 imperius-...@incubator.apache.org
 Date:
 12/14/2009 03:45 PM
 Subject:
 [VOTE][RESULT] Imperius 1.0.0 rc6



 Hello All,

 Voting on the Imperius 1.0.0rc6 candidate release has concluded

 Results:
 1 binding +1 vote

  6 non-binding +1 votes

 Kevan Miller(*) +1

 David Kaminsky +1
 David Wood +1
 Mark Carlson +1
 Erik Bengston +1
 Xiping Wang +1
 Jorge Lobo +1

 Comments received:

 1. Comments from  Erik Bengston

- In the zip/tar file we have a /log.txt file that should be removed.
- Inside the jars we have a /META-INF/maven that should be removed too.
- imperius-splcore-1.0.0.jar does not have NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt
- IMO, the lib/javaspl-samples-1.0.0.jar should be moved to
samples/lib/javaspl-samples-1.0.0.jar
- IMO, NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt files in jar files should lie in
META-INF folder.

 It was concluded that it is too early to make all/any Apache Imperius
 artifacts available in the Maven
 repository

 The other issues did not violate Apache policies and would be accommodated


 in subsequent releases.



 2.  Comments from Kevan Miller

I note that the source distribution contains the following file:
 imperius-cimsplclientsideprovider/customexpressions.properties which is
 not in the svn tag. The contents of this file are:

SPL_CUSTOM_EXPRESSIONS
SPL_CUSTOM_ACTIONS

 This file is innocuous and gets generated during JUnit testing


 I will now take this vote to the general mailing list for a final vote.
 We still need 2 +1 votes from IPMC members.

 Thanks
 Neeraj



 ~
 Neeraj Joshi (knee-rudge)
 Apache Imperius - http://incubator.apache.org/imperius
 ~



 From:
 Neeraj Joshi/Durham/i...@ibmus
 To:
 imperius-...@incubator.apache.org
 Date:
 12/04/2009 10:06 AM
 Subject:
 [VOTE] Imperius 1.0.0 rc6



  Hi All,

  The Imperius 1.0.0  RC6 release candidate has been tagged, packaged,
  and is ready for a vote. The artifacts, KEYS file, RAT report and release



 notes can
  be found at

  http://people.apache.org/~jneeraj/apache-imperius-1.0.0-rc6/

  The tag from which the release artifacts were generated can be found
  at

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/imperius/tags/release1.0.0rc6/

  Revision no is 887217

  In addition, my PGP public code signing key can be found at the MIT
  key server (http://pgp.mit.edu/)

  The KEYS file is checked in at
 http://svn.apache.org.repos/asf/incubator/imperius/KEYS

  Please vote to publish this release by Tuesday, Dec 08 18:00 EST.,
  please include the testing you performed to arrive at your vote
  [  ] +1 Publish
  [  ]   0 Abstain
  [  ] -1 Don't publish, because...

  Upon a positive majority of binding votes and no binding 

Re: [Discuss] Apache Shindig as a TLP

2010-01-13 Thread ant elder
I had a quick look at things like mailing list activity, votes,
releases, committers, commits etc, looks good to go to me.

   ...ant

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 12:04 -0500, Vincent Siveton wrote:
 Hi folks

 FYI, the Shindig community has successfully voted for graduation [1].
 If no objection on the charter or other, I will start a formal
 acceptance vote soon.

 So, from the relative silence on this thread, I am assuming that
 everyone is quite happy to see Shindig graduate and that no-one has any
 issues...

 Regards, Upayavira



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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Shindig as an Apache Top Level Project

2010-01-14 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Vincent Siveton vsive...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks for the positive feedback on the proposal to graduate Shindig
 as a TLP [1].

 I would like to start an official vote to recommend the graduation of
 Apache Shindig as a Top Level Project to the Board.
 To that end I have prepared the resolution for the Board below to be
 presented for consideration at the upcoming Board meeting.

 Community graduation vote thread:
 http://shindig-dev.markmail.org/message/c47amdxjtntkjij5

 Please cast your vote:
 [ ] +1 to recommend Shindig's graduation
 [ ] 0 don't care
 [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...

 The vote will be open for 72 hours.

 Cheers,

 Vincent

 [1] http://apache.markmail.org/message/qvpyymihv6gyh5a7

 --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the
 Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project
 Management Committee, charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source
 software related to the implementation of an OpenSocial container and
 OpenSocial API specifications, for distribution at no charge to the public.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to
 be known as the Apache Shindig PMC, is hereby established pursuant to Bylaws
 of the Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig Project be and hereby is responsible for the
 creation and maintenance of software related to the OpenSocial API
 specifications, based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it 
 further

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Shindig be and hereby
 is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the
 Board of Directors as the chair of Apache Shindig, and to have primary
 responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of 
 responsibility
 of the Apache Shindig PMC; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are 
 appointed
 to serve as the initial members of the Apache Shindig PMC:

 * Ian Boston (ieb at apache dot org)
 * Kevin Brown (etnu at apache dot org)
 * Chris Chabot(chabotc at apache dot org)
 * Chico Charlesworth (chico at apache dot org)
 * Cassie Doll (doll at apache dot org)
 * Evan Gilbert (evan at apache dot org)
 * John Hjelmstad (johnh at apache dot org)
 * Paul Lindner (lindner at apache dot org)
 * Daniel Peterson (dpeterson at apache dot org)
 * Louis Ryan (lryan at apache dot org)
 * Henning Schmiedehausen (henning at apache dot org)
 * Vincent Siveton (vsiveton at apache dot org)
 * Upayavira (upayavira at apache dot org)
 * Adam Winer (awiner at apache dot org)

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Paul Lindner be appointed to the
 office of Vice President, Apache Shindig, to serve in accordance with and
 subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, 
 or
 until a successor is appointed; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that Apache Shindig be and hereby is tasked with the migration
 and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Shindig podling; and be it
 further

 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
 Shindig podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
 discharged.

 --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---

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Re: [VOTE] Imperius 1.0.0 rc6

2010-01-18 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Neeraj Joshi jnee...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 The Imperius community voted on and approved the release of Apache
 Imperius 1.0.0.
 We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this
 release.

 Imperius is a rule-based policy evaluation engine based on the CIM-SPL
 language from
 Distributed Management Task Force (dtmf.org).


  The Imperius 1.0.0  RC6 release candidate has been tagged, packaged,
  and is ready for a vote. The artifacts, KEYS file, RAT report and release

  notes can  be found at

  http://people.apache.org/~jneeraj/apache-imperius-1.0.0-rc6/

  The tag from which the release artifacts were generated can be found
  at

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/imperius/tags/release1.0.0rc6/

  Revision no is 887217

  In addition, my PGP public code signing key can be found at the MIT
  key server (http://pgp.mit.edu/)

  The KEYS file is checked in at
 http://svn.apache.org.repos/asf/incubator/imperius/KEYS

  Please vote to publish this release by Tuesday, Dec 17 18:00 EST.,
  please include the testing you performed to arrive at your vote
  [  ] +1 Publish
  [  ]   0 Abstain
  [  ] -1 Don't publish, because...


 Below is a summary of the vote on the Imperius mailing list (and further
 below is the original vote email)

 Thanks
 Neeraj


 ~
 Neeraj Joshi (knee-rudge)

 IBM WebSphere ComputeGrid

 Apache Imperius - http://incubator.apache.org/imperius
 ~



 From:
 Neeraj Joshi/Durham/i...@ibmus
 To:
 imperius-...@incubator.apache.org
 Date:
 12/14/2009 03:45 PM
 Subject:
 [VOTE][RESULT] Imperius 1.0.0 rc6



 Hello All,

 Voting on the Imperius 1.0.0rc6 candidate release has concluded

 Results:
 1 binding +1 vote

  6 non-binding +1 votes

 Kevan Miller(*) +1

 David Kaminsky +1
 David Wood +1
 Mark Carlson +1
 Erik Bengston +1
 Xiping Wang +1
 Jorge Lobo +1

 Comments received:

 1. Comments from  Erik Bengston

- In the zip/tar file we have a /log.txt file that should be removed.
- Inside the jars we have a /META-INF/maven that should be removed too.
- imperius-splcore-1.0.0.jar does not have NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt
- IMO, the lib/javaspl-samples-1.0.0.jar should be moved to
samples/lib/javaspl-samples-1.0.0.jar
- IMO, NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt files in jar files should lie in
META-INF folder.

 It was concluded that it is too early to make all/any Apache Imperius
 artifacts available in the Maven
 repository

 The other issues did not violate Apache policies and would be accommodated

 in subsequent releases.



 2.  Comments from Kevan Miller

I note that the source distribution contains the following file:
 imperius-cimsplclientsideprovider/customexpressions.properties which is
 not in the svn tag. The contents of this file are:

SPL_CUSTOM_EXPRESSIONS
SPL_CUSTOM_ACTIONS

 This file is innocuous and gets generated during JUnit testing


 I will now take this vote to the general mailing list for a final vote.
 We still need 2 +1 votes from IPMC members.

 Thanks
 Neeraj



 ~
 Neeraj Joshi (knee-rudge)
 Apache Imperius - http://incubator.apache.org/imperius
 ~



 From:
 Neeraj Joshi/Durham/i...@ibmus
 To:
 imperius-...@incubator.apache.org
 Date:
 12/04/2009 10:06 AM
 Subject:
 [VOTE] Imperius 1.0.0 rc6



  Hi All,

  The Imperius 1.0.0  RC6 release candidate has been tagged, packaged,
  and is ready for a vote. The artifacts, KEYS file, RAT report and release


 notes can
  be found at

  http://people.apache.org/~jneeraj/apache-imperius-1.0.0-rc6/

  The tag from which the release artifacts were generated can be found
  at

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/imperius/tags/release1.0.0rc6/

  Revision no is 887217

  In addition, my PGP public code signing key can be found at the MIT
  key server (http://pgp.mit.edu/)

  The KEYS file is checked in at
 http://svn.apache.org.repos/asf/incubator/imperius/KEYS

  Please vote to publish this release by Tuesday, Dec 08 18:00 EST.,
  please include the testing you performed to arrive at your vote
  [  ] +1 Publish
  [  ]   0 Abstain
  [  ] -1 Don't publish, because...

  Upon a positive majority of binding votes and no binding vetoes, the
  results of this vote will be brought to the Incubator PMC and voted
  upon there.

  Thanks,
  -Neeraj

 Change log:
 1. Checked in the build.xml from the release artifact into the SVN tag.
 All the release artifacts
 from previous candidate (r5) are the same.
 2. Updated the SVN revision number.
 3. Left the redundant zip/gz files as is.
 ~
 It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my
 reasons for them. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

 Neeraj Joshi (knee-rudge)
 WebSphere XD - Compute Grid
 AIM, IBM
 Apache Imperius - http://incubator.apache.org/imperius
 

Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP

2010-01-19 Thread ant elder
I echo Matthieu's comments about Cassandra being ready to graduate,
I'll vote +1 for it in a vote. Not sure if that PMC list is actually
the complete list as I thought there was talk of adding others, i'll
ask about it on their private list.

   ...ant

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution
 that Eric attached would be cool...

 The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small:

         * Jonathan Ellis            jbel...@apache.org
         * Eric Evans                eev...@apache.org
         * Jun Rao                   jun...@apache.org
         * Chris Goffinet            goffi...@apache.org

 And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only.

 Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while?
 With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get
 3 votes on issues is real.

 that's a good point, Bertrand. Those that are involved in other
 communities are the
 mentors, like Torsten, Matthieu or Brian (according to [1]). Looks like the 
 only
 exception is Johan Oskarsson, but I am not to familiar with the
 community itself
 and its activity. However I noted that Johan voted for the graduation...

 I am also not sure why the proposed PMC is that small. Some try to expand
 their PPMC during incubation with all the active folks (mailings and commits).
 So, I am not sure on the reason why there is this small (P)PMC.

 -Matthias

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html


 -Bertrand

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Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP

2010-01-21 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:

 Greetings,

 The Cassandra community has successfully voted for graduation[1]. Before
 calling for a recommendation vote, I'd like to see if anyone here has
 any concerns or objections, or has any feedback on the draft resolution.

 Regards,

 [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.user/1875


Other than the PMC makeup which is being taken care of one thing that
sometimes causes debate is the resolution words, so to highlight that
to try to avoid voting hiccups:

...creation and maintenance of open-source software related to fully
distributed storage of structured data, ...

Does anyone have any issues or comments with that?

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Release UIMA 2.3.0-rc9

2010-01-21 Thread ant elder
It is quite huge. I haven't looked at every artifact but the ones i
did all the licensing etc looked ok and it looks like they understand
what they're doing. The copyright in some NOTICE files is  Copyright
2006, 2007 which could probably do with being updated, though others
are 2009 and from the discussion on legal-discuss a while back i'm not
sure thats a blocking issue so +1 from me.

  ...ant

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Others, please review and vote! The release is pretty complex so it's
 a bit of work to review it, but it would be great if at least two
 other IPMC members could spare some time on this.

 Anyone?

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Cassandra to an Apache TLP

2010-01-29 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:

 Greetings,

 We took the feedback from the earlier discussion[1] here and added our
 active mentors to the proposed PMC, (for a total of 7 people), then ran
 that through a new community vote[2].

 [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/24427
 [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.user/2157

 There didn't seem to be any other feedback, so I'd like to start an
 official vote to recommend graduation of Apache Cassandra to a top-level
 project.

 Please cast your vote:
 [ ] +1 to recommend Cassandra's graduation
 [ ]  0 don't care
 [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)

 The vote will be open for 72 hours.

 Thanks,

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Re: [Vote] Release Kato M1-incubating

2010-01-30 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Stuart Monteith stuk...@stoo.me.uk wrote:
 The Kato community has voted to release Kato M1-incubating. We now request
 the
 Incubator PMC for a vote.

 The proposed release artifacts are located at:
    http://people.apache.org/~monteith/kato/apache-kato-M1-incubating-RC3/

 There are packages for the Java binaries with documentation, source and
 native libaries for Linux and Windows x86.
 Each package is available in tar.gz and zip form, expect for the native
 packages.
 asc, md5 and sha1 (SHA512) files are generated for each.

 rat*.txt files have been generated for each of the packages contents. The
 mapping is:
    apache-kat-M1-incubating-bin.(tar.gz|zip) - rat-bin.txt
    apache-kat-M1-incubating-src.(tar.gz|zip) - rat-src.txt
    apache-kat-M1-incubating-native-bin-linux-i386.tar.gz - rat-bin-linux.txt
    apache-kat-M1-incubating-native-bin-windows-i386.zip -
 rat-bin-windows.txt

 Please review the artifacts and cast your vote by Thursday 4th February.


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache libcloud 0.2.0

2010-02-13 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote:
 The Apache Libcloud project is currently voting on our first release,
 0.2.0.  As required by Incubator policy, we need IPMC approval for
 this release.  There is a concurrent release vote ongoing on
 libcl...@incubator.apache.org.

 The current (passing) RAT output can be seen at:
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/libcloud/rat-output.txt

 Test tarballs for Apache Libcloud 0.2.0 are available at:
  http://people.apache.org/~pquerna/lc-0.2.0/

 Please test and place your votes please;

  +/- 1
  [  ]  Release Apache Libcloud 0.2.0

 Vote closes on Monday February 15, 2010 at 1pm PST.

 Thanks,

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Re: [VOTE] - Graduate Log4PHP as a subproject of Logging project

2010-03-04 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Gav... ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:
 Hi All,

 The Log4PHP community has voted [1] with 5 +1 votes and no other votes as
 follows, to graduate to become a sub-project of the Logging Project.

 * Gavin McDonald
 * Christian Hammers
 * Jim Jagielski
 * Jesus Christian (non binding)
 * Christian Grobmeier

 The Logging PMC has voted [2] with 7 +1 votes and no other votes as follows,
 to accept Log4PHP as a sub-project.

 * Ceki Gülcü
 * Niclas Hedhman
 * Curt Arnold
 * Scott Deboy
 * Paul Smith
 * Ron Grabowski
 * Christian Grobmeier

 The Log4PHP community feels it has fulfilled all graduation requirements to
 become a sub-project.

 This vote is to ask that the IPMC approve the graduation of Log4PHP as a
 sub-project of Apache Logging.

 The vote starts now and will run for a minimum of 72 hours.

 [ ] - +1 - Graduate Log4PHP as a sub-project of Apache Logging.

 [ ] - +/-0 - Don't care, whatever the majority decides.

 [ ] - -1 - Strongly object to this graduation (because ...

 Thanks All,

 Gav...

 [1] - Message-ID:
 ded132f11003032357v5f4edbb2k7579ffbb3be22...@mail.gmail.com

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Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha

2010-03-08 Thread ant elder
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Leif Hedstrom zw...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 The Traffic Server PPMC has voted on and approved the release of TS
 v2.0.0-alpha. We would now like to request the approval from the Incubator
 PMC for this release. The original vote thread is

    Message-ID: 4b8d5deb.2050...@apache.org


 The release candidate artifact and checksums / signature can be found at:

    http://people.apache.org/~zwoop/

  http://people.apache.org/~zwoop/apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2

  http://people.apache.org/~zwoop/apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2.md5

  http://people.apache.org/~zwoop/apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2.sha1

  http://people.apache.org/~zwoop/apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2.asc


 The .asc signature is signed by me (Leif Hedstrom (CODE SIGNING KEY)
 zw...@apache.org). The checksums are

    md5sum: 18f914f3873bc4d22c5f3115b9db011f
    sha1sum: f735a19a70c2aa69d97d4ea239a5192258dadf17

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache
 trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha:
 [  ] +1 Publish
 [  ]   0 Abstain
 [  ] -1 Don't publish, because...


 Below is a summary of the vote on the mailing list.

 Thanks,

 -- Leif


 Subject:  [RESULT] [VOTE] Release candidate for Traffic Server 2.0.0-alpha

 The vote for release passes with six +1 votes, and no -1 or 0 votes. I  will
 request for the IPMC to release this.

 Thanks!

 -- leif

 [+1] Leif Hedstrom
 [+1] George Paul
 [+1] John Plevyak
 [+1] Bryan Call
 [+1] Jean-Frederic Clere
 [+1] Doug Cutting




I had a look. Unfortunately the main release artifact
apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2 is missing the top
level LICENSE and NOTICE files. Those are mentioned in the README and
do look like they're in SVN so maybe there is just a problem with the
release build, but they are a requirement of every artifact being
released so i think you'll need a respin to fix that.

The key included at ~zwoop/ with the release artifacts that was used
to sign the artifacts does work ok but it doesn't look like thats
published in a public key server like http://pgp.surfnet.nl/ so doing
that would be good (though thats not a release requirement).

Other that everything looks good from the ASF/legal perspective and
the Incubator disclaimer is included in the README file.

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Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha

2010-03-08 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Leif Hedstrom l...@ogre.com wrote:
 On 03/08/2010 05:09 PM, ant elder wrote:

 O

 I had a look. Unfortunately the main release artifact
 apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2 is missing the top
 level LICENSE and NOTICE files. Those are mentioned in the README and


 Are you sure? I just downloaded it (as linked above):

 loki (17:10) 258/0 $ wget
 http://people.apache.org/~zwoop/apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2
 loki (17:10) 259/0 $ tar xf
 apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha.tar.bz2
 loki (17:10) 260/0 $ cd apache-trafficserver-incubating-2.0.0-alpha
 loki (17:10) 261/0 $ ls
 aclocal.m4  configure*    emacs-style  libinktomi++/  Makefile.am  rc/
 build-aux/  configure.ac  example/     librecords/    Makefile.in  README
 CHANGES     contrib/      INSTALL      LICENSE        NOTICE       STATUS
 ci/         doc/          iocore/      m4/            proxy/
 loki (17:10) 262/0 $ ls -lrt LICENSE
 -rw-r--r-- 1 leif users 19098 2010-02-09 20:41 LICENSE
 loki (17:10) 263/0 $ ls -lrt NOTICE
 -rw-r--r-- 1 leif users 776 2010-02-12 07:24 NOTICE


 What am I missing?


Thats odd, unless I'm going blind there is definitely no LICENSE file
when I have look. I'm using windows and winzip though, could that be
doing something funny when unzipping the .bz2 file?

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache River 2.1.2

2010-03-21 Thread ant elder
Looks ok to me, +1.

As an aside there are still Java package names that are using com.sun
instead of org.apache, are they going to be changed before graduation
(I forget what the feeling is about this these days in the Incubator
PMC)?

   ...ant

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Peter Firmstone j...@zeus.net.au wrote:
 Please vote on releasing Apache River 2.1.2

 +1 (sorry for the delay)

 PS. IPMC members; we still need two more IPMC votes to make this
 release official.

 Hmm, looks like I forgot to cc general@ on this.

 We're still lacking one IPMC vote to make this release official.
 Getting this release prepared was a huge effort and IMHO the biggest
 positive sign of community activity in River since the podling was
 started. Let's not stall the release for a missing IPMC vote!

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting

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Re: [libcloud] [VOTE] Release Apache Libcloud 0.3.1

2010-05-07 Thread ant elder
+1

One minor nit is the Changes file still talks about 0.3.0.

   ...ant

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote:
 Test tarballs for Apache Libcloud 0.3.1 are available at:
  http://people.apache.org/~pquerna/libcloud-0.3.1/

 Please test and place your votes please;

  +/- 1
  [  ]  Release Apache Libcloud 0.3.1

 Vote closes on Monday May 10, 2010 at 1pm PST.

 This release fixes several issues related to the license blocks,
 NOTICE file, and test cases that were noticed in the scrubbed 0.3.0
 release.

 It is based upon this tag:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/libcloud/tags/0.3.1

 Thanks,

 Paul


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.6-incubating (rc4)

2010-05-07 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 (again).

 Could someone from the IPMC take a look at the release? The team is
 eager to release it, but lacks 2 +1 binding votes.

 Martijn

 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Rainer Döbele doeb...@esteam.de wrote:

 +1

 Rainer

 Francis De Brabandere wrote:
 re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.6-incubating (rc4)

 Hi,

 We have just prepared the fourth 2.0.6-incubating release candidate
 and we are now looking for approval of the IPMC to publish the release.

 PMC vote thread:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-empire-db-
 dev/201004.mbox/browser
 We already have one binding vote.

 These are the major change from our previous 2.0.5-incubating release:

 - Code-Generator allows generation of Data Model code files for
 existing databases
 - Maven plugin for DB-Code-Generator
 - New example to demonstrate interoperability between Empire-db and
 Spring
 - Provided jars are now OSGi compatible

 Changelog:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/empire-db/tags/apache-empire-db-
 2.0.6-incubating-rc4/CHANGELOG.txt?view=co

 Subversion tag:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/empire-db/tags/apache-
 empire-db-2.0.6-incubating-rc4

 Maven staging repository:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheempire-db-
 020/

 Distribution files are located here
 http://people.apache.org/~francisdb/empire-db/

 Rat report for the tag is available here:
 http://people.apache.org/~francisdb/empire-db/rat.txt

 Vote open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1

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Re: [VOTE] Approval to release Apache Aries (Incubating) version 0.1-incubating

2010-05-11 Thread ant elder
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Jeremy Hughes hugh...@apache.org wrote:
 The Aries community has voted on its first release. From the Aries home page:

 The Aries project is delivering a set of pluggable Java components
 enabling an enterprise OSGi application programming model. This
 includes implementations and extensions of application-focused
 specifications defined by the OSGi Alliance Enterprise Expert Group
 (EEG) and an assembly format for multi-bundle applications, for
 deployment to a variety of OSGi based runtimes.

 Aries is a multi-module project. The vote thread on aries-dev for RC5:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-aries-dev/201005.mbox/%3cl2wadbf02b11005050801hdb720bfse0dd3f748f81a...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 concluded with 14 votes, all of them +1, four of which were binding
 Incubator PMC votes from Jarek Gawor, Kevan Miller, Guillaume Nodet 
 Davanum Srinivas.

 The following Aries top level modules are staged and tagged in
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/aries/tags/ at revision
 941288.

 Modules staged at

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-009/

 parent
 eba-maven-plugin
 testsupport
 util
 blueprint
 jndi
 transaction
 web
 jmx

 Modules staged at

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-004/

 jpa
 samples

 Modules staged at

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-010/

 application

 The RAT and IANAL build checks passed.

 The KEYS file located here:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/aries/KEYS

 contains the code signing key for myself, Jeremy Hughes, the release
 manager for this release.

 We already have 4 binding +1 IPMC votes on the aries-dev list, and I'm
 opening up this thread for 72 hours for any further feedback on the
 staged artifacts for release.

 Thank you,
 Jeremy


Its a slightly unusual release structure so apologies if I'm missing
it but where is the source release? If i'm not missing some other link
then something may have gone wrong in the release build,  as an
example, in the folder:

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-009/org/apache/aries/blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint/0.1-incubating/

the source jar org.apache.aries.blueprint-0.1-incubating-sources.jar
is mostly empty and doesn't contain the source of
org.apache.aries.blueprint-0.1-incubating.jar.

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Re: [VOTE] Approval to release Apache Aries (Incubating) version 0.1-incubating

2010-05-11 Thread ant elder
Ok thanks I see them now.

Looks good to me, +1

   ...ant

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Jeremy Hughes hugh...@apache.org wrote:
 On 11 May 2010 07:19, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Jeremy Hughes hugh...@apache.org wrote:
 The Aries community has voted on its first release. From the Aries home 
 page:

 The Aries project is delivering a set of pluggable Java components
 enabling an enterprise OSGi application programming model. This
 includes implementations and extensions of application-focused
 specifications defined by the OSGi Alliance Enterprise Expert Group
 (EEG) and an assembly format for multi-bundle applications, for
 deployment to a variety of OSGi based runtimes.

 Aries is a multi-module project. The vote thread on aries-dev for RC5:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-aries-dev/201005.mbox/%3cl2wadbf02b11005050801hdb720bfse0dd3f748f81a...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 concluded with 14 votes, all of them +1, four of which were binding
 Incubator PMC votes from Jarek Gawor, Kevan Miller, Guillaume Nodet 
 Davanum Srinivas.

 The following Aries top level modules are staged and tagged in
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/aries/tags/ at revision
 941288.

 Modules staged at

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-009/

 parent
 eba-maven-plugin
 testsupport
 util
 blueprint
 jndi
 transaction
 web
 jmx

 Modules staged at

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-004/

 jpa
 samples

 Modules staged at

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-010/

 application

 The RAT and IANAL build checks passed.

 The KEYS file located here:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/aries/KEYS

 contains the code signing key for myself, Jeremy Hughes, the release
 manager for this release.

 We already have 4 binding +1 IPMC votes on the aries-dev list, and I'm
 opening up this thread for 72 hours for any further feedback on the
 staged artifacts for release.

 Thank you,
 Jeremy


 Its a slightly unusual release structure so apologies if I'm missing
 it but where is the source release?

 There are 12 top level modules, most with sub modules. For 'blueprint'
 the source-release.zip is here:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-009/org/apache/aries/blueprint/blueprint/0.1-incubating/blueprint-0.1-incubating-source-release.zip

 The pattern is 
 repo_root/org/apache/aries/module/module/0.1-incubating/module-0.1-incubating-source-release.zip

 If i'm not missing some other link
 then something may have gone wrong in the release build,  as an
 example, in the folder:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachearies-009/org/apache/aries/blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint/0.1-incubating/

 the source jar org.apache.aries.blueprint-0.1-incubating-sources.jar
 is mostly empty and doesn't contain the source of
 org.apache.aries.blueprint-0.1-incubating.jar.

 Each of the sub-modules contain sources jars. These are for the
 convenience of attaching to binaries in IDEs for example. The one you
 mention is for a sub-module which acts as a collector to collect up
 other sub-modules into a bundle. So it doesn't have any sources of its
 own, so I guess technically that sources jar isn't required.


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Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.1 (incubating)

2010-05-12 Thread ant elder
Looks ok to me, +1

   ...ant

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Mike Rheinheimer r...@apache.org wrote:
 I should have mentioned this,

 Wink 1.1 release already has two IPMC binding votes from:

 Davanum Srinivas
 Kevan Miller

 Wink 1.1. release needs only one more IPMC binding vote to pass.

 Thanks.
 mike



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Mike Rheinheimer r...@apache.org wrote:

 IPMCers,

 Wink 1.1 release voting has completed successfully on the wink-dev list.
 I'm now calling the IPMC vote to release Wink 1.1 (incubating) per the
 process indicated here:
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-incubator-release-vote

 The Maven staging area is at:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachewink-007/

 The distributions are in:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachewink-007/org/apache/wink/apache-wink/1.1-incubating/

 This release is tagged at:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/tags/wink-1.1-incubating
 (revision 941046)

 The vote will be open here for at least 72 hours (ending Friday, May 14,
 10:45am US CST).  Please indicate your vote:

 [ ] +1 to release Wink 1.1 incubating
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1 NOT to release Wink 1.1 incubating (and why)

 Thanks!
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Re: [VOTE] Deltacloud Project

2010-05-13 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:45 AM, David Lutterkort lut...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 after the discussion so far [1], I'd like to put Detlacloud for a vote
 for acceptance into the Apache Incubator according to the proposal[2]

 I _think_ I've added everybody who expressed interest in being a mentor
 or initial committer to the proposal - if I have forgotten anybody,
 please holler.

 Please reply to this mail with your vote.

 David

 [1] 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201005.mbox/%3c1273174879.7253.99.ca...@avon.watzmann.net%3e
 [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DeltacloudProposal



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Re: [VOTE] Release PhotArk M2-incubating (RC1)

2010-05-14 Thread ant elder
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The PhotArk community has completed a vote on it's second milestone
 release (PhotArk M2-Incubating) and  is now looking for IPMC approval
 to publish the release.

 Please review and vote on approving the M2-incubating release
 artifacts of PhotArk.

 The artifacts are available for review at:
 http://people.apache.org/~lresende/photark/M2-incubating-RC1/

 This includes the signed binary and source distributions, the RAT report,
 and the Maven staging repository.

 The release tag is available at :
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/photark/tags/M2-incubating-RC1/

 --

 Here is my +1, any others available to review the release ?



The distribution archives still contain SNAPSHOT in the name which may
be unintentional but its not a blocker and I don't see any others so
...

+1 from me.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating

2010-05-26 Thread ant elder
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Kalle Korhonen
kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version
 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard
 Apache/Maven release process as documented at
 http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This
 is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1
 votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev.

 PPMC release vote thread:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator):
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950styleName=Htmlversion=12314078

 The tag to be voted upon:
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/

 Staging repo for binaries:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/

 Staging site:
 http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/

 Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon):
 http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1


I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to
recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats
not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've
just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you
provide the link?

Two other comments are:

There is no incubation DISCLAIMER file in any of the release artifacts
which is required as per
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases.
That needs to be present either as a separate file next to the
LICENSE/NOTICE files or the text may be included in the top level
README, for an example see:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kato/tags/apache-kato-M1-incubating/DISCLAIMER.txt
Looking back now we seem to be missing this in other releases recently
too so perhaps this could be fixed on the next release if there isn't
a new RC needed for anything else.

I don't think the NOTICE file needs those extra comments about
SoftHashMap and Spring, and perhaps the SoftHashMap comments would be
better in the LICENSE file. There has been a lot of confusion about
what should go in the NOTICE file and extra info is far better than
missing info so up to the project what if anything to do about this.

Other than that it looks good, the missing source is a problem though
so sorry but my vote is -1 until that is cleared up.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating

2010-05-26 Thread ant elder
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:

 On May 26, 2010, at 2:00 AM, ant elder wrote:

 On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Kalle Korhonen
 kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version
 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard
 Apache/Maven release process as documented at
 http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This
 is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1
 votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev.

 PPMC release vote thread:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator):
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950styleName=Htmlversion=12314078

 The tag to be voted upon:
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/

 Staging repo for binaries:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/

 Staging site:
 http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/

 Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon):
 http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1


 I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to
 recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats
 not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've
 just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you
 provide the link?

 All the artifacts have sources and javadocs in the same directories.

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-all/1.0.0-incubating/


AIUI all ASF releases MUST have _buildable_ source. The source jars
included in those directories are not buildable. The idea behind this
is that the ASF deals with source code and releases are of source
packages that enable anyone to go tinker with that source, but you
can't do so much useful tinkering if you can't build the source. See
http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain
and various emails that fly around on other mailing lists.

I believe the latest Maven release plugin and Apache parent pom.xml
will create the correct packages now. You probably could reconstruct a
buildable source from whats in the Maven repo and if this was a small
release like a single Maven plugin or something it could have been
argued that this was ok and could just be updated to the new Maven
release for next release, but this is something like 20 modules so to
recreate it would be quite a job - working out and recreating the
correct directory structure, unzip all the source jars into the
correct place, download all the pom.xml's and rename them and put them
in the right place etc.

Or anyone leap in here and explain i've misunderstood the policy.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating

2010-05-26 Thread ant elder
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Les Hazlewood l...@hazlewood.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to
 recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats
 not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've
 just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you
 provide the link?

 It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005

 Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/

 Les


Smashing, ok i change my vote to +1 then.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Nuvem Project

2010-06-16 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to propose the Nuvem project for addition to the Apache 
 incubator.

 The initial proposal is available at the the Wiki[1], and it is also
 included below for convenience.

 We are looking forward to any and all feedback and/or questions on the
 proposal. We are also looking for a Champion and mentors, and would
 very much welcome additional volunteers to help steer Nuvem through
 the incubation process.


 [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Nuvem


 We are still looking for mentors, any volunteers to help ?


Hi Luciano, you can add me as a mentor which with Paul will give you
the required three mentors. The proposal doesn't list a champion yet -
isn't that you?

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Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-23 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 07:54, Eric Yang ey...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:
 Besides DOAP file and the incubator nomenclature, I may need help identify
 the addition responsibilities for Apache PMC.  One problem, Chukwa community
 did not have a vote for PMC Chair because we are not sure what is the right
 process for this.  Meanwhile, I have been writing quarterly report like any
 other Apache project, only recipient of the report is different.

 Chukwa releases have been voted by Chukwa community which is similar to
 Hadoop releases, and managed incremental changes using patches and
 committers.  Code audit has been performed by the committers to ensure we
 don't bring in license incompatible libraries into Chukwa.

 Owen O'Malley had trained us these procedures roughly two years ago, and we
 have been executing the same process ever since.

 This translate for me into:
 Chukwa didn't have proper oversight by a PMC (a committee that is, not
 a single person) at Hadoop.
 Incubation would fix this using established processes.
 I think this is the right track, and the people involved, including
 the Hadoop PMC, ultimatively did the right thing.
 (Except for not simply growing the Hadoop PMC over time to include
 committers from every product.)

 Chukwa has a community of exist user base of 35 people.  It would be nice to
 make Chukwa a special case to skip incubator nomenclature.  This would ease
 the migration path for the existing Chukwa community.

 Ok with me, at least as far as MLs or SVN are concerned.
 However, Chukwa must be aware that it is changing PMCs from Hadoop to 
 Incubator.
 So different rules might apply, like marking release artifacts as 
 -incubating.
 Let's gather some more feedback on this.


Most projects that come to incubate would likely prefer to go straight
to the TLP naming.

The last time i recall this came up was here:
http://apache.markmail.org/message/ifinvq7wqmeoo5ix

IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa
website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go directly to a
TLP and if they have to use the incubator naming it may help them
decide that the direct to TLP route really is better ;-)

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Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@apache.org wrote:
 On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa
 website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go directly to a
 TLP and if they have to use the incubator naming it may help them
 decide that the direct to TLP route really is better ;-)

 I see you blinking here, so I guess this is not just for putting up a
 strawman ;-)

 Well folks, it's a fun debate and all, but it isn't helping bring this
 vote to a conclusion :)

 Is anyone in agreement with ant?  Otherwise we should just move ahead
 and can hold a separate vote on allowing tlp resource creation at this
 time.

 If the proposers want (Eric?) a three choice vote, 1. recommend TLP with
 guides to help the initial pmc, 2. accept incubating with tlp resource
 naming, but -incubating release naming, or 3. accept incubating requiring
 all incubator naming conventions, that might help the incubator simplify
 this decision.

 At this point, I personally guess that 1. might be the most sensible in
 terms of resource creation and management;

Option 1. sounds most sensible to me too.

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Re: [Result][Vote] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-07-01 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Chris Douglas cdoug...@apache.org wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Bernd Fondermann
 bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 [snip]

 Fair point.

 The naming debate is only about the location of the project in svn and
 the mailing lists, right? Conducting the vote with this variable has
 become more arduous than all the INFRA and site work it implies; let's
 drop it. Eric, could you just change the naming in the proposal to
 match the convention? Unless there are other open issues, a straight,
 up/down vote should be possible with that modification.

 Bernd, would you mind conducting the next vote so that it runs to your
 satisfaction?

 IMHO, Either Hadoop decides to run a TLP movement, or the Incubator
 conducts a proper vote.

 The Hadoop PMC vote to recommend Chukwa as a TLP directly did not pass. -C


I've been suggesting it would be simpler for Chukwa to go directly to
TLP but if thats not going to happen then you have my support to
incubate if thats what they really want to do, and I agree a new vote
might making things clearer. It seems a shame to require more renaming
of mailing lists etc than necessary, another alternative could be to
just keep the existing naming that Chukwa currently uses during the
incubation and only do renaming when graduating to TLP. That avoids
one renaming and might get more IPMC votes for the proposal than it
did when using the TLP naming.

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Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread ant elder
How about keeping it here at the Incubator? It could be a showcase
project that demonstrates how to do things like releases, as well as
an eat your own dog food type place to help avoid any unnecessarily
burdensome IPMC processes and procedures ;)

   ...ant

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Siegfried Goeschl
siegfried.goes...@it20one.at wrote:
 Hi Jochen,

 not sure if Commons is the right place sine RAT has a very spezialized scope
 or to state it differently I would not look for RAT in Commons.

 What about Maven TLP?

 Cheers,

 Siegfried Goeschl

 On 10.08.10 12:40, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:

 Hi,

 having just published a release of Apache RAT with the -incubating
 label, I'd though it is time to discuss the future of RAT. RAT is an
 incubator project since 18 months. It is not an overly busy project:
 The occasional feature request, which is handled, a bug report from
 time to time, and so on. OTOH, it definitely lives: People are
 interested and, what's more, it is very widely adopted by all Java
 projects I am aware of and perhaps even by a few non-Java projects. If
 there will ever be a migration to a new license like ASL 3 or a
 another change of the header policy, then RAT will likely play a very
 important part in the process. Even now, the RAT report is carefully
 studied as part of every release vote. (Funnily, RAT is very rarely
 used to inspect itself, because so far I didn't find a possibility to
 run a previous version of the RAT Maven plugin as part of a build. In
 fact, RAT is the only project I am aware of, which doesn't publish a
 RAT report. :-)

 IMO, RAT could very well leave the incubator. It's 10 or so committers
 [1] are all part of an organization called ASF since years, so you
 might question the diversity, but I don't believe anyone will actually
 do that. ;-) The source code has been developed under ASL and by
 Apache committers right from the start, so licensing was never an
 issue.

 The question is: What's the target? RAT is way too small for an
 independent project. And I cannot imagine anybody of the current
 committers writing board reports. To me, a Rat TLP is no option. So we
 have the second possibility: Put it under the hat of another TLP. The
 only one that comes to my mind is the Apache Commons project.

 But Commons would be an excellent choice: Most, or even all of the RAT
 committers are Commons committers as well. Commons was one of the
 drivers for integration of RAT into every release build. I admit that
 I wouldn't like to change the package name or the Maven group ID
 again, but either Commons developers could accept that exception from
 the rule or I'd force myself to do the required changes.

 WDYT?

 Jochen


 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/rat/team-list.html

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Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:
 On 2010-08-10, ant elder wrote:

 How about keeping it here at the Incubator?

 I was going to suggest that as well - as a subproject, not as an eternal
 podling.  But I understand Ross point of sending the wrong signal.
 Infra would be fine with me if infra wanted to absorb rat.


A thing with being part of infra is that the rat people are less
likely to be so actively involved with other infra pmc work and
perhaps visa versa, if it was here at the Incubator i'd hope that it
could really be one pmc group with everyone interested in what rat is
doing and how that relates to what Incubator reviews do.

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Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:

 However, I'm not sure I get the whole reasoning below RE: TLP? Why not have a 
 RAT TLP? The overhead of filing board reports and not knowing anyone on the 
 team that would be able to? Hen files them all the time (well he used to as 
 Attic VP). And the other names I see on that list [1] below are all people I 
 widely respect at the ASF and folks who pop up on board@, members@ and other 
 foundation-wide lists from time to time. I don't want to speak for anybody, 
 but what would be the issue with any of them filing board reports? Or, 
 yourself for that matter? :) You see to get this whole release process thing 
 - how is the board report sent monthly for the first few months, then 
 quarterly after such a big deal? So, what's the problem with being a TLP?

Yep i agree, there are already other small TLPs so it doesn't need to
be an issue, so going TLP does sound ideal.

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Re: an experiment

2010-08-11 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:


 The second idea is more controversial: to hold IPMC votes to
 admit all significant committers to those projects to the IPMC
 itself.  The purpose of this concept is to allow those who
 best know the codebase to provide IPMC oversight over it,
 especially as it pertains to releases.


Without some more explanation I'm not that convinced about doing that.
The main purpose of the IPMC is to vote on the graduation of
poddlings, why should some random ASF poddling newbie get a binding
vote on the graduation of _any_ poddling?

I'm guessing the motivation for this proposal is not to give poddling
committers binding votes on other poddling graduations but to give
them binding votes on their own poddling activities, and that i agree
with. The things they need binding votes on is their committer votes,
ppmc votes (they already have that), and release votes - lets just
give them those.

   ...ant

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Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ant,

 My personal opinion (and i am hoping!) was that such individuals from ppmc's
 who end up in ipmc would help build bridges between podlings and will help
 get lessons learned (when any ppmc has issues/problems/roadblocks) back to
 their ppmc.

Isn't that sort of thing exactly what hasn't happened in past projects
with sub projects and why these days sub projects often get moved out
to be TLPs? If a poddlings active committers warrent being on the IPMC
why not graduate the poddling or give the poddling its own PMC? It
would be good for poddlings to have more control over their own
activities like voting committers and releases and this would give
them that which is good so i guess I wouldn't stand in the way of
trying it, but doing it with this approach does feel like we'd just be
creating another great big umbrella project with all the issues that
has.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Release Bean Validation 0.2-incubating RC2

2010-08-18 Thread ant elder
Looks good to me too, i can't see anything at all to comment on.

+1

   ...ant

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 Signature/checksums, build, source (RAT), and general snooping around with 
 emacs all looked good. Thanks Donald!

 --kevan
 On Aug 13, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Donald Woods wrote:

 A Bean Validation 0.2-incubating release candidate #2 has been created
 with the following artifacts up for a vote:

 SVN source tag (r985290):
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bval/tags/0.2-incubating/

 Maven staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebval-102/

 Source release:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebval-102/org/apache/bval/bval-parent/0.2-incubating/bval-parent-0.2-incubating-source-release.zip

 Javadoc staging site:
 http://people.apache.org/~dwoods/bval/0.2-incubating/staging-site/apidocs/

 PGP release keys (signed using D018E6B1):
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bval/KEYS


 Vote will be open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1  approve
 [ ] +0  no opinion
 [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)


 Thanks,
 Donald


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Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 After much debate both here and on the connectors mailing list, the LCF 
 community has voted (see 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-connectors-dev/201008.mbox/browser)
  and would like to officially change our name to be the Apache Connectors 
 Framework.  We would like the Incubator PMC to vote to make this official.

 [] +1 Change the Lucene Connector Framework to the Apache Connector Framework
 [] 0 Don't care
 [] -1 Don't change it

 Since this is a procedural vote 
 (http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html), it is a majority rule vote 
 with binding votes coming from IPMC members.  The vote is open for 72 hours.

 Here's my +1 (binding).

 Thanks,
 Grant

-0

I agree with the comments from David and others such as [1] and the
suggestion at [2] to call it something more abstract like Apache
Connecto.

Thats IMHO anyway, I'm not sure that the IPMC should be the ones with
binding votes on this but it would be good if the poddling could take
into consideration our views.

   ...ant

[1] http://apache.markmail.org/message/ryf4eebpzpsvq3hr
[2] http://apache.markmail.org/message/zyiodmx4hbqfjek3

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Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-09 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Grant proposed that we simply go from LCF to ACF at that time, and
 posted accordingly to this group.  He received several positive responses,
 and only one that raised any concerns.  After a week's delay, we presumed
 that all was well,

That may be the cause of all this - there was a concern raised but
instead of being taken on board it was ignored.

Looking at the vote result of options [1] Apache Manifold is the
second highest choice and has a good amount of support and is far less
contentious than ACF so why not just go with that?

I agree with Upayavira's comment [2] - while it may not be down to the
IPMC to veto a name the board may well do so. So if you want to reduce
the chance of a book title being messed up when the project goes TLP
then i'd go with something abstract like Apache Manifold now (or else
atleast ping the board now to see if they'll comment).

   ...ant

[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-connectors-dev/201009.mbox/%3caanlktikd9fglbnyybrha6emr8ordzdlejaf85qvpf...@mail.gmail.com%3e

[2] http://apache.markmail.org/message/vbuq6hqfpuodouyp

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Chemistry OpenCMIS 0.1.0-incubating (RC2)

2010-09-17 Thread ant elder
I've had a look, and it all looks good. The licensing and legal doc in
the artifacts looks fine, the sigs verify, src builds etc.

+1

   ...ant

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Gabriele Columbro gabri...@apache.org wrote:
 Dear Incubator PMC members,
 on behalf of the Chemistry dev team, I'd like to ask your approval to
 release the RC2 packages as Chemistry OpenCMIS 0.1.0-incubating.

 Legal and packaging issues - that blocked RC1- should have been now resolved
 (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CMIS-224), while detailed release
 notes can be found in Jira at:
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CMIS/fixforversion/12315133.

 The release has passed the Chemistry incubator PMC vote:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/201009.mbox/%3cf6d8594e-4913-4af6-aaab-a1b30e951...@apache.org%3e.
 During the vote, also 2 IPMC (Nick Burch  Jukka Zitting) votes have been
 collected, so we'd need one more IPMC +1 to proceed with the release.

 Main release candidate packages (for distribution at apache.org/dist) are
 at:
 http://people.apache.org/~gabriele/chemistry/opencmis/0.1.0-incubating-rc2/dist/
 The full set of Maven artifacts (for distribution at repository.apache.org)
 is at:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachechemistry-012/

 Sources tag can be found at:
  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/chemistry/opencmis/tags/chemistry-opencmis-0.1.0-incubating-RC2/

 The staging maven documentation site is at :
 http://people.apache.org/~gabriele/chemistry/opencmis/0.1.0-incubating-rc2/site/
 (full integration tests at: http://bit.ly/b07hK8)

 Artifacts have been signed using key D0383AE5 (publicly available at
 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0xB0E9DD9ED0383AE5 and
 under
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/chemistry/opencmis/trunk/KEYS).

 The vote is open for 72 hours.

 Please cast your votes!
 [ ] +1 approve
 [ ] +0 no opinion
 [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

 Thanks in advance!
 Gabriele

 --

 Gabriele Columbro
 Alfresco Software, Ltd.

 http://www.mindthegab.com
 http://twitter.com/mindthegabz

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Re: [VOTE] Release Whirr version 0.1.0-incubating

2010-09-17 Thread ant elder
Looks ok, +1.

The binary jar whirr-cli-0.1.0-incubating.jar is missing the incubator
DISCLAIMER file but that file is in the other artifacts like the src
distro so i guess its enough to just fix that next time. Its also a
bit hard to work out if all the licenses are included for all the
stuff thats included in that jar as theres so much in it, it did have
a few i check but it would be helpful to have something like the main
LICENSE file or a README summarise whats there and the licensing.

   ...ant


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Tom White tomwh...@apache.org wrote:
 This is the first incubator release for Apache Whirr, version
 0.1.0-incubating. We already received one binding IPMC +1 vote for the
 PPMC release vote on whirr-dev, so are looking for two more.

 PPMC release vote thread:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-whirr-dev/201009.mbox/%3caanlktinio1np6d+gbnm4w6jjcg-6koe7x8begkuxr...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 The issues fixed for 0.1.0-incubating
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12315111styleName=HtmlprojectId=1230

 Source and binary files:
 http://people.apache.org/~tomwhite/whirr-releases/

 Maven staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachewhirr-009

 The tag to be voted upon:
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/whirr/tags/release-0.1.0-incubating

 The vote is open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1

 Thanks,
 Tom

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Re: [VOTE] Apache SIS 0.1-incubating Release Candidate #2

2010-11-10 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I have posted a 2nd candidate for the Apache SIS 0.1-incubating release. The
 source code is at:

 http://people.apache.org/~mattmann/apache-sis-0.1-incubating/rc2/

 This release addresses the following comments from IPMC members during the
 RC #1 VOTE:

 - add Incubator disclaimer per comments from Ant Elder.
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers

 - add JDOM license to NOTICE.txt and upgrade to apache parent 7 per comments
 from Mark Struberg.

 - note that ROME and Georss-ROME are under the ASLv2 per Kevan Miller's
 comments.

 See the included CHANGES.txt file for details on release contents and latest
 changes. The release was made using the Maven2 release plugin, according to
 Jukka Zitting's notes from Tika-ville:

 http://tinyurl.com/yz2cqls

 Caveat: we aren't publishing to Maven Central yet. I've filed INFRA-3177 [1]
 to make this happen for our next release.

 See the included README.txt file for an example of how to use Apache SIS in
 a Tomcat environment and how to run the demo.

 This plugin creates a Apache SIS 0.1-incubating tag at:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/tags/0.1-incubating/

 Please vote on releasing these packages as Apache SIS 0.1-incubating. The
 vote is open for the next 72 hours. Only votes from Incubator PMC are
 binding, but everyone is welcome to check the release candidate and voice
 their approval or disapproval. The vote passes if at least three binding +1
 votes are cast.

 [ ] +1 Release the packages as Apache SIS 0.1-incubating.

 [ ] -1 Do not release the packages because...

 Thanks!

 Cheers,
 Chris

 P.S. Here's my +1.

 [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3177


I think this release src distribution has too much unnecessary stuff
in its LICENSE and NOTICE files.

Unfortunately you've hit one of those potentially painful parts of
doing a release on general@ - the contents of the LICENSE and NOTICE
file - and most likely everyone you ask will tell you a slightly
different thing of what it should be like. Here's what I say:

1) Each artifact being released needs to include the licenses for
everything in the artifact (Thats often all in the single LICENSE file
but its also ok to have just the Apache License in the LICENSE file
and any other license somewhere obvious).

2) The NOTICE file has some standard text (see
http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
) and then maybe some mention of other things. More often than not the
mention of other things is unnecessary.

This release is a source only release and AFAICT there is nothing
included in apache-sis-0.1-incubating-src.tar.gz that is licensed with
anything other than the Apache license so the LICENSE text needs to
have just the Apache License text. Similarly the NOTICE file doesn't
need to include anything other than the standard NOTICE text.

If this release was including a binary release artifact then the
LICENSE file of that binary release would need to include the licenses
of any included dependencies, eg i think thats what this src release
LICENSE now has.

If this release was including a binary release artifact then the
NOTICE file should still (IMHO) just include the standard NOTICE text.
All that other stuff that you've now added to the NOTICE shouldn't be
there as none of it is required third-party notices.

You could argue that it doesn't really matter that there is some extra
stuff in the LICENSE and NOTICE and maybe thats true but as this is
the first Apache release its probably worth having the debate.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Apache SIS 0.1-incubating Release Candidate #2

2010-11-10 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi Ant,

 Thanks. Do you see any of the below as a blocker to the first release? What
 extra stuff, specifically, do you see that wasn’t present in the prior where
 that you +1’ed and thought was OK as a first release?

 Cheers,
 Chris


In NOTICE file 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/tags/0.1-incubating/NOTICE.txt
everything after the line The Apache Software Foundation
(http://www.apache.org/). shouldn't be there.

In the LICENSE file
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/tags/0.1-incubating/LICENSE.txt
everything including and after the line APACHE TIKA SUBCOMPONENTS
shouldn't be there (should it? what is using those extra licenses?).

I'd not noticed the extra stuff in the LICENSE file in RC1 but its the
RC2 NOTICE file that i think is the blocker - license text does not
belong in the NOTICE file.

  ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Apache SIS 0.1-incubating Release Candidate #3

2010-11-11 Thread ant elder
Looks good to me, +1.

   ...ant

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I have posted a 3rd candidate for the Apache SIS 0.1-incubating release. The
 source code is at:

 http://people.apache.org/~mattmann/apache-sis-0.1-incubating/rc3/

 This release addresses the following comments from IPMC members during the
 RC #2 VOTE:

 From Ant Elder:

 In NOTICE file
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/tags/0.1-incubating/NOTICE.txt
 everything after the line The Apache Software Foundation
 (http://www.apache.org/). shouldn't be there.

 In the LICENSE file
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/tags/0.1-incubating/LICENSE.tx
 t everything including and after the line APACHE TIKA SUBCOMPONENTS
 shouldn't be there (should it? what is using those extra licenses?).


 See the included CHANGES.txt file for details on release contents and latest
 changes. The release was made using the Maven2 release plugin, according to
 Jukka Zitting's notes from Tika-ville:

 http://tinyurl.com/yz2cqls

 Caveat: we aren't publishing to Maven Central yet. I've filed INFRA-3177 [1]
 to make this happen for our next release.

 See the included README.txt file for an example of how to use Apache SIS in
 a Tomcat environment and how to run the demo.

 This plugin creates a Apache SIS 0.1-incubating tag at:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/tags/0.1-incubating/

 Please vote on releasing these packages as Apache SIS 0.1-incubating. The
 vote is open for the next 72 hours. Only votes from Incubator PMC are
 binding, but everyone is welcome to check the release candidate and voice
 their approval or disapproval. The vote passes if at least three binding +1
 votes are cast.

 [ ] +1 Release the packages as Apache SIS 0.1-incubating.

 [ ] -1 Do not release the packages because...

 Thanks!

 Cheers,
 Chris

 P.S. Here's my +1.

 [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3177

 ++
 Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
 Senior Computer Scientist
 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
 Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
 Email: chris.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov
 WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
 ++
 Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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[DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-12 Thread ant elder
I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.

As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in
place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
the board has said they're ok with it.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-17 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote:
 Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal can
 be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied
 below.

 [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
 [ ] +0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:

 The vote is open for at least 72 hours.

 Thanks,
 Ross

 = Jena, a Semantic Web Framework =
 == Abstract ==
 Jena is a semantic web framework for Java, based on W3C standards.

 == Proposal ==
 Jena provides a semantic web framework in Java that implements the key W3C
 recommendations for the core semantic web technologies of RDF and SPARQL.
  Jena is a number of components and modules built on this core system.  It
 currently includes:

  * an API for working with RDF
  * Parsers and writers for the RDF formats (RDF/XML, Turtle, N-triples,
 NQuads, TriG)
  * an implementation of SPARQL, the W3C standard RDF query language
  * multiple storage systems for RDF data including in-memory, file-backed,
 in SQL databases and in custom scalable storage systems
  * an API for manipulation of OWL
  * a rule-based inference engine
  * an implementation of GRDDL for extraction of RDF from XML formats
  * a standards compliant IRI library.

 The project includes facilities based around this core to encourage the
  creation of components and contributions both as part of Jena and also  as
 companion open source activities.

 This proposal includes the main components of Jena: the main Jena download,
 ARQ, GRDDL, SDB, TDB, the IRI  library and Joseki.  Other components may be
 contributed later - we're  just starting with the main part of Jena for now.

 == Background ==
 The W3C recommendations provide detailed specifications and it is important
 to follow these standards so that independently built applications can
 exchange data over the web.  Jena provides high quality  Java
 implementations of RDF input/output and storage so that application  writers
 can concentrate on the application, not the low-level details.

 W3C Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/

 Jena has been on !SourceForge since 2001.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jena/

 == Rationale ==
 The open source project was originally created as part of a research
 activity in HPLabs.  In building new systems, the researchers identified
  the value of a common platform that dealt with the low level details of
  the standards.  This lead to engagement with the standards process and  the
 creation of a framework that provided a library to deal with the  details of
 semantic web standards.  This work was released as Jena. The  developers
 have contributed implementation experience back to the working groups.

 None of the contributors now work for HP.  Providing a uniform contributor
 and licensing framework assists commercial use of Jena.

 == Current Status ==
 Jena is already an established project with a large user base in industry
 and academia.  It currently uses a BSD-style three-clause license with a
 number of contributing copyright holders. Support is primarily provided via
 the jena-...@groups.yahoo.com mailing list. The majority of the team was
 employed in HPLabs, and HP holds the majority of the copyright over the code
 - there are contributions from non-HP companies.  HP decided to close the
 research group as of October 2009 and the people from HPLabs connected with
 the project have moved on to several different semantic web companies.

 This change does not immediately affect Jena because the people who were  in
 HP still remain active contributors to Jena.  The project continues to be
 supported and actively enhanced.  There is now the  opportunity to become an
 open source project without a single large  organisation involved.

 === Meritocracy ===
 The Jena team has always been self-determining; there has not been a project
 manager in charge of the effort.  Instead, it has grown through  individuals
 contributing to the codebase as part of their research activities.  The team
 has organised itself to create the framework for builds, releases and public
 support, and people who had worked on Jena in HP, and moved to other
 companies and institutions, have continued to  contribute.

 === Core developers ===
 Jena originated within a research activity in HPLabs, starting around 2000.
 Contributors to jena have been active in W3C working groups including
 chairing the RDF Core working group and acting as document editors on
 several other working groups.  W3C processes are public; jena contributors
 have been involved in public debate and decision making. People have since
 moved on from HP to several semantic web forced companies and to university
 positions.

 === Alignment ===
 Jena is already in use in many commercial systems as well as widely used  in
 academic research and teaching.  We want to continue making this easy  and
 at the same time encourage contribution in a 

Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-18 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:
 Assuming that no one comes forward with a significant reason to disallow
 this, I'd just request that you not call a VOTE until you have an update to
 the incubator page that describes the process.

 In other words, let's DISCUSS and then VOTE on the change to the process
 page.


I don't think a VOTE is necessary because the page being updated is
not a policy page so changes use CTR not RTC.
For an enjoyable sense of symmetry see:
http://apache.markmail.org/message/h7lvpedsn46g72lf

   ...ant

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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-18 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
 someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
 votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
 for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.

 As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
 and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in
 place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
 the board has said they're ok with it.

   ...ant


Ok its been nearly a week and there is overwhelming support for doing
this so I have gone ahead and made an update to the PPMC guide to
reflect this. The text is a copy of what is already there for voting
in a new PPMC member updated as necessary for being a committer. The
new text reads:

--
Any member of the PPMC can propose a new committer. The proposal
should be discussed in private on the PPMC private alias, with a
subject line of [DISCUSS] Joe Bob as committer. If there is consensus
that the proposed member is suitable, then there should be a formal
vote in the PPMC private alias, with the subject line of [VOTE] Joe
Bob as committer. The [VOTE] message should be forwarded to the IPMC (
priv...@incubator.apache.org) to notify them that the vote is
underway. If the vote is successful, the proposer should send a
message to the PPMC private alias, with the subject line of
[VOTE][RESULT] Joe Bob as committer.

Note that to be successful the vote requires at least one +1 from a
poddling mentor, or, if no mentors are available from an Incubator PMC
member.
--

   ...ant

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation

2010-11-24 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:45, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
 wrote:
 ...
 OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave?  While Apache Wave would 
 certainly be unique to Apache, if Google intends to keep using Google Wave 
 (and Wave as a shorthand) this would get very confusing.

 Don't you think that by proposing Wave to the Incubator that Google
 has OK'd this?

 I don't work for Google and don't know the people proposing this so no, I 
 have no idea whether Google has OK'd this.

 Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his
 google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it,
 then he wouldn't be working there tomorrow :-D ... or if this was some
 kind of spurious one-guy-goes-batshit-crazy, then how could he line up
 so many people?

 And sure, while you couldn't know this, Dan is a great guy. I worked
 with him while at Google. This proposal is straight-up.

 My simple point is: please accept proposals at face value rather than
 pushing back with paranoid thoughts about malfeasance on the part of
 the people wanting to join our efforts here at the ASF.


Ralph's question seemed reasonable to me, the ASF trademarks people
are a often mentioning problems with using trademarked names like
this. However its something that can be sorted out with those ASF
trademarks folks during incubation, its not a barrier for entry to
incubation.

Anyway, seems like a fine proposal to me, +1 for it coming to Apache.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Wave into the incubator

2010-11-30 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Please vote on the acceptance of Wave into the Apache incubator.

 The proposal is available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
 (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)

 The earlier discussion thread can be found at:
 http://apache.markmail.org/message/3ebtccdxvipp2732?q=general%40incubator.apache.org+list:org.apache.incubator.general+order:date-backwardpage=2

 The vote options:

 [ ] +1 Accept Wave for incubation
 [ ] +0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:

 The vote is open for 72 hours.

 Thanks,
 -Dan

 Apache Wave Proposal (Apache Incubator)

 = Abstract =

 Apache Wave is the project where wave technology is developed at Apache.
 Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment, which is
 a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and
 provides a rich web client. This project also includes an implementation of
 the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems
 (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances).

 = Proposal =

 A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communication.
 It can be used like email, chat, or a document.

 WIAB is a server that hosts waves. The best analogy for this is a mail
 server with a web client. WIAB is comprised of a few high-level components:
 the client and the server. They have the following major functionality
 (though this is not an exhaustive list):

  * Client
  *A dynamic web client for users to create, edit, and search waves. Users
 can access this client by directly visiting the server in a browser.
  * Gadgets provide the ability to insert, view, and modify the UI --
 exposing the Wave Gadgets API (
 http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html)
  * A console client that can create and edit waves via a command-line-like
 interface.
  * Server
  * Hosts and stores waves. WIAB comes with a default storage mechanism. The
 administrators of the server may configure it to use alternative storage
 mechanisms.
  * Indexing, allowing for searching the waves a user has access to.
  * Basic authentication, configurable to delegate to other systems.
  * Federation, allowing separate Wave in a Box servers to communicate with
 each other using the Wave Federation Protocol (
 http://www.waveprotocol.org/federation).
  * Robots, using the Wave Robots API, (
 http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/) may interact with waves
 on a WIAB instance.

 = Background =

 Wave expresses a new metaphor for communication: hosted conversations. This
 was created by Lars and Jens Rasmussen after observation of people's use of
 many separate forms of communication to get something done, e.g, email,
 chat, docs, blogs, twitter, etc.

 The vision has always been to better the way people communicate and
 collaborate. Building open protocols and sharing code available in an open
 and free way is a critical part of that vision. Anyone should be able to
 bring up their own wave server and communicate with others (much like SMTP).

 We hope this project will allow everyone to easily gain the benefits of Wave
 with a standard implementation of Wave – in a box.

 = Rationale =

 Wave has shown it excels at small group collaboration when hosted by Google.
 Although Wave will not continue as a standalone Google product, there is a
 lot of interest from many organizations in both running Wave and building
 upon the technology for new products.

 We are confident that with the community-centric development environment
 fostered by the Apache Software Foundation, WIAB will thrive.

 = Initial Goals =

 The initial goals of the project are:

  1.  To migrate the codebase from code.google.com and integrate the project
 with the ASF infrastructure (issue management, build, project site, etc).
  1.  To quickly reach a state where it is possible to continue the
 development of the Wave In a Box implementation under the ASF project.
  1.  To add new committers to the project and grow the community in The
 Apache Way.

 = Current Status =

 The open source Wave in a Box project has existed in various forms for
 approximately 16 months (starting out life as the FedOne open source
 project).

 FedOne began in July 2009 in order to accelerate adoption of the wave
 federation protocol, and serve as a proof of concept that a non-Google
 implementation of the wave federation protocol could interoperate with the
 Google production instance. It worked. FedOne's existence lead to a
 prototype by Novell that demonstrated federation between Google Wave and
 Novell Pulse (now known as Vibe). In addition, in May of 2010, SAP unveiled
 a prototype version of SAP StreamWork that federated with both Novell Pulse
 and Google Wave. All three systems interoperated, sharing real-time state,
 and gadget updates. In May 2010 Google released significantly 

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of 
 artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote.  Since this is our first 
 release, extra attention to detail is appreciated.

 You can find the artifacts at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/


 Thanks,
 Grant


I've reviewed this and think it mostly fine.

The NOTICE file does include some unnecessary things, i don't think
thats technically a blocking issue but as this is the first RC of the
first release it should probably be cleaned up and another RC done.
The NOTICE file should only include required notices that other text
if its really needed could go in a README file, see
http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice

I think this current source+binary distribution is fine. The rule is
that you can only release binary artifacts which also have the source
released, but there are no rules saying the source distribution must
not include any binary artifacts, so if this is what the project
thinks works best then its fine.

It is missing the Incubating disclaimer text which should be included
in the README or a DISCLAIMER file, see
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers

I tried building it with ant build and that failed, don't know if
that my environment or something else:
BUILD FAILED
C:\ASF\manifoldcf\apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubator\build.xml:353: The
following error occurred while executing this line:
C:\ASF\manifoldcf\apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubator\connectors\jdbc\build.xml:52:
C:\ASF\manifoldcf\apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubator\co
nnectors\jdbc\jdbc-drivers does not exist.

Other than that it looks ok to me. Its big and inlcudes some duplicate
stuff but if thats what the project thinks is the best approach then
its fine, there are plenty of other big projects being distributed.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-08 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:

 - I have made no changes to NOTICE and LICENSE, because the incubator
 and community advice seemed contradictory.  I would like a general
 sense of how many people feel that the current NOTICE and LICENSE
 files are unacceptable before I make changes.

The NOTICE file is still incorrect and includes a lot of unnecessary
stuff. Understanding how to do releases with the correct legal files
is one of the important parts of incubation and as this is the first
release for the poddling i think this needs to be sorted out.

For the NOTICE file, start with the following text (between the ---'s):

---
Apache ManifestCF
Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation

This product includes software developed by
The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
---

and then add _nothing_ unless you can find explicit policy documented
somewhere in the ASF that says it is required. If someone wants to add
something ask for the URL where the requirement is documented. The
NOTICE file should only include required notices, the other text thats
in the current NOTICE file could go in a README file, see
http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice

For the LICENSE file, it should start with the AL as the current one
does, and then include the text for all the other licenses used in the
distribution. Those license that are currently in the NOTICE file
should be moved to the LICENSE file and then you need to verify that
all the 3rd party dependencies in the src and binary distributions are
also in the LICENSE files of those distributions.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-08 Thread ant elder
That NOTICE file still contains additional text about Jetty and
HSQLDB, why is that needed? The Apache License section 4d describes
what must be included in the NOTICE and AIUI it says you only need to
include in your NOTICE the notices from Jetty and HSQLDB if you
distribute derivitave works of them. Thats not what you're doing you
are distributing copies of the them not Derivative Works so nothing is
needed in your NOTICE file.

   ...ant

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rather than spin a whole new RC and upload it, which takes me two
 hours, I've attached the revised proposed NOTICE and LICENSE here, so
 people can comment directly.

 Karl

 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 The current NOTICE file has exactly what you specify, plus a preamble
 describing components and their licenses.  I will remove the preamble
 - it was based on the Solr/Lucene NOTICE which I was told to use as an
 example.

 The LICENSE file, on the other hand, should currently have everything
 that's in the NOTICE file in expanded form.  If you think I should
 move the preamble to the LICENSE file as well, this would be the time
 to indicate that.  Otherwise, the preamble will just be deleted.

 Karl


 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:06 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:

 - I have made no changes to NOTICE and LICENSE, because the incubator
 and community advice seemed contradictory.  I would like a general
 sense of how many people feel that the current NOTICE and LICENSE
 files are unacceptable before I make changes.

 The NOTICE file is still incorrect and includes a lot of unnecessary
 stuff. Understanding how to do releases with the correct legal files
 is one of the important parts of incubation and as this is the first
 release for the poddling i think this needs to be sorted out.

 For the NOTICE file, start with the following text (between the ---'s):

 ---
 Apache ManifestCF
 Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation

 This product includes software developed by
 The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 ---

 and then add _nothing_ unless you can find explicit policy documented
 somewhere in the ASF that says it is required. If someone wants to add
 something ask for the URL where the requirement is documented. The
 NOTICE file should only include required notices, the other text thats
 in the current NOTICE file could go in a README file, see
 http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice

 For the LICENSE file, it should start with the AL as the current one
 does, and then include the text for all the other licenses used in the
 distribution. Those license that are currently in the NOTICE file
 should be moved to the LICENSE file and then you need to verify that
 all the 3rd party dependencies in the src and binary distributions are
 also in the LICENSE files of those distributions.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-09 Thread ant elder
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've attached a new proposed version of README.txt, NOTICE.TXT, and
 LICENSE.txt.  Any further comments?

 Karl


These look good to me.

Its a long thread so a bit hard to keep track of without a new RC but
i think what you have now it all looks fine. I don't think the size is
an issue. One last comment is that the some of the doc files like the
README and DISCLAIMER have the Apache License header which i don't
think is necessary and the README is the first thing people look at so
having a big glob of legal text right at the top isn't so attractive.

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Re: [libcloud] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.2

2011-01-13 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Jerry Chen je...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 With 6x +1 votes (including 2 binding), and no -1 votes, the vote seeks the 
 approval of the IPMC.

 Thanks,
 Jerry

 On Jan 8, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Jerry Chen wrote:

 Hi all,

 Test tarballs for Apache Libcloud 0.4.2 are available at:
 http://people.apache.org/~jerry/libcloud-0.4.2/

 Please test and place your votes:

 +/- 1
 [  ]  Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.2

 Vote closes on Sunday January 9, 2011 at 10pm PST.

 This release includes the EC2NodeLocations fix to restore backward 
 compatibility in the EC2 driver, as well as new drivers, improvements to 
 deployment capabilities, and libcloud.security module for SSL certificate 
 verification.

 For more information on SSL verification:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LibcloudSSL

 For the full list of changes, see:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/libcloud/tags/0.4.2/CHANGES

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Re: [libcloud] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.2

2011-01-17 Thread ant elder
By my count libcloud still needs one more binding +1 for this release,
does any other Incubator PMC member have a minute to review and vote?

   ...ant

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:46 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

   ...ant

 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Jerry Chen je...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 With 6x +1 votes (including 2 binding), and no -1 votes, the vote seeks the 
 approval of the IPMC.

 Thanks,
 Jerry

 On Jan 8, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Jerry Chen wrote:

 Hi all,

 Test tarballs for Apache Libcloud 0.4.2 are available at:
 http://people.apache.org/~jerry/libcloud-0.4.2/

 Please test and place your votes:

 +/- 1
 [  ]  Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.2

 Vote closes on Sunday January 9, 2011 at 10pm PST.

 This release includes the EC2NodeLocations fix to restore backward 
 compatibility in the EC2 driver, as well as new drivers, improvements to 
 deployment capabilities, and libcloud.security module for SSL certificate 
 verification.

 For more information on SSL verification:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LibcloudSSL

 For the full list of changes, see:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/libcloud/tags/0.4.2/CHANGES

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Re: Apache Libcloud 0.4.2 Released!

2011-01-19 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote:

 What specific questions you have ? Is it the project calling
 themselves Apache Libcloud without a incubating disclaimer ?

 That's the main one, yes. It's also the wording being pretty much identical
 to a TLP release announcement.

 Anyway, following the download page, the release artifacts are
 suffixed with incubating (apache-libcloud-incubating-0.4.2.zip) and
 they also contain the DISCLAIMER file saying they are under
 incubating.

 That's great (the home page doesn't have such a disclaimer, but does have
 the incubator logo).

 I'm not meaning to pick on Libcloud, I'm just trying to understand where the
 lines are drawn.

 Ross



 The release management guidelines are very light on announcements
 requirements [1], but looking at the past announcements, this seems
 like following the general practice [2]

 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#announcements
 [2] 
 http://markmail.org/search/%5Bannounce%5D+list:org.apache.incubator.general


Most of those announcements do seem to at least mention something
about incubating, the release management guide is a bit sparse though,
I think we should update the release management guide to at least
mention that announcements must follow the branding guidelines at
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html, and say poddling
announcements must mention that its incubating and perhaps include the
full disclaimer text in the email.

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Chemistry OpenCMIS 0.2.0-incubating (RC1)

2011-01-20 Thread ant elder
+1 from me.

Though a little reluctantly because while it looks mostly good the
chemistry-opencmis-client-impl-0.2.0-incubating-with-dependencies.zip
does not include the text of all the licenses of the included
dependencies it only has URLs to the license text. I thought including
the full license text was a requirement but hunting around now i can't
find anything that states that.

   ...ant

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Gabriele Columbro colum...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 just a reminder for this vote, which is now been open for a full week.

 On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Nick Burch wrote:

 Just need one more IPMC +1 and we're done. Anyone able to review and vote?


 As Nick correctly mentions here, we just need one more IPMC +1 to get this
 release out.
 Would be great if someone can take this on, so we can move forward with
 pushing out the release.

 Thanks in advance,
 Gab





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Re: [VOTE] Release PhotArk M3-incubating (RC2a)

2011-01-23 Thread ant elder
+1 to releasing most of this. I do think the duplicate and incorrect
legal files should be cleaned up as Stefan commented, and because of
those the webapp modules in the maven repo look like they have ended
up with the wrong license/notice files. I also think it would be
better to change from having the binary distribution which wrappers
the two webapps to instead just release the two webapps on their own.

   ...ant

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Stefan Seelmann seelm...@apache.org wrote:
 +1

 RAT report looks good.
 Source distribution exists.
 Binary distributions and WAR contain licenses and notices of included 
 libraries.


 Some notes, maybe you can fix that in the next release: the war file
 contains multiple NOTICE and LICENSE files in
 - META-INF
 - WEB-INF/classes
 - WEB-INF/classes/META-INF
 I understand that the files in META-INF contain licenses and notices
 for all included libraries which is fine. But I don't know if the
 files in WEB-INF are required.
 Also please note that the WEB-INF/classes/NOTICE still contains the
 ${pom.name} variable.

 Kind Regards,
 Stefan



 Thanks Stefan, we will look into this for our next release.

 Others, we need one more vote here, any volunteers ?



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Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-26 Thread ant elder
+1

You only have two mentors, if you need a third i would help out.

   ...ant

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Antoine Levy-Lambert anto...@gmx.de wrote:
 I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored by
 the Ant PMC for a new EasyAnt podling.

 The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:

 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal

 [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
 [] 0 don't care
 [] -1 object and reason why.

 Thanks,
 Antoine Levy-Lambert

 --- Proposal text from the wiki ---


 EasyAnt Proposal

 The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project
 within the Apache Software Foundation.

 = Abstract =

 Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.

 = Proposal =

 EasyAnt goals are :

 * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
 * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a
 ready-to-use dependency manager.
 * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, JARs
 etc, by providing ready to use builds.
 * to provide conventions and guidelines.
 * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple Ant
 scripts as Easyant plugins.

 To still remain adaptable,

 * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
 * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use
 your own modules.
 * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts
 could still be leveraged with Easyant.

 = Rationale =

 On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is Why Ivy is not
 shipped with Ant ?. Ant users (and some opponents) complains also about the
 bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about copying an
 existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these requirements:
 a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build script ready to be
 used.

 Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is
 adopting the convention over configuration principle. Then it could be
 easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more need
 to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The common part should be
 easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant knowledge (example
 changing the default directory of sources, force compilation to be java 1.4
 compatible, etc...).

 Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based
 architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the build.
 Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged into or
 removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your
 regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a complete war. Or,
 do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web application onto a packaged
 Jetty server!

 = Current Status =

 == Meritocracy ==

 Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the Apache
 Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based on
 meritocracy.

 == Community ==

 EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per release). It
 is not a problem as the team is currently making restructuring changes. The
 team plans to make more promotion after those changes and strongly believe
 that community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy to use.

 == Core Developers ==

 Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev ¡ ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
 Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT
 Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling and
 Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to
 the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin development.
 Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge
 (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
 Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.

 == Alignment ==

 EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help for
 a closer collaboration between projects.
 The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy like
 they've done in the past on :
 * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
 * import/include mechanism (Ant)
 * module inheritance (Ivy)

 = Known risks =

 == Orphaned products ==

 Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers got
 interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of EasyAnt.
 Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.

 == Inexperience with Open Source ==

 Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. Two
 of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.

 == Homogenous Developers ==

 The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and employers.

 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==

 None of the developers rely on EasyAnt for consulting work.

 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==

 As already stated above, EasyAnt is 

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1 incubating, RC8

2011-01-30 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the votes!  Still need one more binding +1...
 Karl

 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
 chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi Karl,

 +1 from me (binding).

 Signatures check out:

 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% gpg --import 
 *.KEYS
 gpg: key 03824582: Karl David Wright (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
 kwri...@apache.org not changed
 gpg: key FE045966: Grant Ingersoll (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
 gsing...@apache.org not changed
 gpg: Total number processed: 2
 gpg:              unchanged: 2

 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% gpg --verify 
 apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-bin.tar.gz.asc
 gpg: Signature made Tue Jan 11 14:19:16 2011 PST using RSA key ID 03824582
 gpg: Good signature from Karl David Wright (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
 kwri...@apache.org
 gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
 gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
 Primary key fingerprint: E74B 06A0 454F 6E92 400A  3450 FD1F F09C 0382 4582

 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% gpg --verify 
 apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-bin.zip.asc
 gpg: Signature made Tue Jan 11 14:19:07 2011 PST using RSA key ID 03824582
 gpg: Good signature from Karl David Wright (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
 kwri...@apache.org
 gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
 gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
 Primary key fingerprint: E74B 06A0 454F 6E92 400A  3450 FD1F F09C 0382 4582

 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% gpg --verify 
 apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-src.tar.gz.asc
 gpg: Signature made Tue Jan 11 14:18:59 2011 PST using RSA key ID 03824582
 gpg: Good signature from Karl David Wright (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
 kwri...@apache.org
 gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
 gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
 Primary key fingerprint: E74B 06A0 454F 6E92 400A  3450 FD1F F09C 0382 4582

 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% gpg --verify 
 apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
 gpg: Signature made Tue Jan 11 14:18:41 2011 PST using RSA key ID 03824582
 gpg: Good signature from Karl David Wright (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
 kwri...@apache.org
 gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
 gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
 Primary key fingerprint: E74B 06A0 454F 6E92 400A  3450 FD1F F09C 0382 4582
 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann%

 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% cat *.md5
 C7CA5B01ADC5A785F63ED559169B4390 *apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-bin.tar.gz
 CF1744BF9ACF2EFD17F705A875691B02 *apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-bin.zip
 D134D3F1D01060F2B6800FB19572A576 *apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-src.tar.gz
 BA2F388B9AF5E66FC0F1437C98EDF846 *apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-src.zip

 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% md5sum 
 *-bin*.tar.gz *-bin*.zip *-src*.tar.gz *-src*.zip
 c7ca5b01adc5a785f63ed559169b4390  apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-bin.tar.gz
 cf1744bf9acf2efd17f705a875691b02  apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-bin.zip
 d134d3f1d01060f2b6800fb19572a576  apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-src.tar.gz
 ba2f388b9af5e66fc0f1437c98edf846  apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating-src.zip
 [chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann%

 Thanks for including CHANGES.txt and KEYS. That really helped.

 Great job and great working the process!

 Cheers,
 Chris




 On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Oh, forgot to mention that the release candidate tag is at:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.1-incubating-RC8/

 Karl

 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Calling the official vote for release of ManifoldCF 0.1 incubating,
 RC8, which can be found at http://people.apache.org/~kwright .  The
 community has voted for release of the new RC, so we're ready to go
 ahead with an incubator vote on the same.

 Thanks in advance!
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 Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
 WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
 

Re: License text needed for dependencies or URL is enough? (was: Re: [VOTE] Apache Chemistry OpenCMIS 0.2.0-incubating (RC1))

2011-01-30 Thread ant elder
The best way to get this clarified would be to ask the the ASF legal
folks, http://www.apache.org/legal/, either be emailing
legal-disc...@apache.org, or best, raise a JIRA at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL.

   ...ant

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Gabriele Columbro colum...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ant,
 first off thanks for taking time for testing this release and giving us the
 final and so much needed +1. Will send vote result email right away.

 About licensing concerns, our first release (0.1.0 RC1) was rejected for
 this kind of reasons and we *should* have fixed those in 0.1.0-RC2 (as per
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CMIS-224).

 @IPMC: any comments on whether license URL is fine or the full license text
 should be included for dependencies?

 I'm also wondering how other projects using the standard Maven Apache
 release process deal with this, as our DEPENDENCIES file are generated
 according to that logic.

 Thanks for any comment!
 Gab


 On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:22 PM, ant elder wrote:

 +1 from me.

 Though a little reluctantly because while it looks mostly good the
 chemistry-opencmis-client-impl-0.2.0-incubating-with-dependencies.zip
 does not include the text of all the licenses of the included
 dependencies it only has URLs to the license text. I thought including
 the full license text was a requirement but hunting around now i can't
 find anything that states that.

  ...ant

 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Gabriele Columbro colum...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,
 just a reminder for this vote, which is now been open for a full week.

 On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Nick Burch wrote:

 Just need one more IPMC +1 and we're done. Anyone able to review and
 vote?


 As Nick correctly mentions here, we just need one more IPMC +1 to get
 this
 release out.
 Would be great if someone can take this on, so we can move forward with
 pushing out the release.

 Thanks in advance,
 Gab





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Re: [VOTE][REMINDER] Release Apache Chemistry cmislib 0.4 incubating

2011-02-02 Thread ant elder
Did you see the -1 vote from Stefan -
http://apache.markmail.org/message/bba6t6xifdgfwwxg

Probably need to address that, even if its just to ask lets just fix
it in the next release.

   ...ant

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Jeff Potts jeffpott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Incubator PMC members,

 This is the second reminder that the Apache Chemistry project is still 
 looking for two +1 IPMC votes to approve the 0.4 incubating release of 
 cmislib.

 The vote has been open for one week. Please let me know if there is anything 
 I can do to facilitate your review and approval.

 Jeff

 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Jeff Potts jeffpott...@gmail.com
 Date: January 28, 2011 11:39:45 AM CST
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE][REMINDER] Release Apache Chemistry cmislib 0.4 incubating

 Incubator PMC members,

 Just a quick reminder that the Apache Chemistry project is still looking for 
 two +1 IPMC votes to approve the 0.4 incubating release of cmislib.

 If there is anything I can do to facilitate your review and approval, please 
 let me know.

 Jeff

 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Jeff Potts jeffpott...@gmail.com
 Date: January 25, 2011 8:36:43 AM CST
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: chemistry-...@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Chemistry cmislib 0.4 incubating

 Incubator PMC members,

 The cmislib sub-project of Apache Chemistry is ready for its first release 
 since joining the Chemistry project. On behalf of the Chemistry dev team, 
 I'd like to ask your approval to release the packages referenced below as 
 Chemistry cmislib 0.4 incubating.

 The release has passed the Chemistry PMC vote: http://bit.ly/eqXU2X

 During the vote, 1 IPMC vote was collected (Nick Burch), so we need 2 more 
 IPMC +1 votes to proceed with the release.

 You can find the main release candidate artifacts (for distribution at 
 apache.org/dist) at:
 http://people.apache.org/~jpotts/chemistry/cmislib/0.4/dist

 These artifacts represent what is currently in cmislib head.

 The vote is open for 72 hours so please cast your votes!

 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Chemistry cmislib 0.4 incubating
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

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Re: [WITHDRAW][VOTE] Release Apache Chemistry cmislib 0.4 incubating

2011-02-02 Thread ant elder
If it helps to save a little time, a lot of times people run votes,
especially second votes, in parallel on both the dev list and general@
by just CC'ing both on the vote email.

   ...ant

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Jeff Potts jeffpott...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am withdrawing this vote based on Stefan Seelmann's -1 vote. We will 
 address those issues, re-vote in the Chemistry PPMC, and then re-submit here 
 once successful.

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Re: Voting waiting period

2011-02-11 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Alan D. Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
 It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period.  
 If that period ends on a weekend then it's customary to wait until Monday to 
 complete.

 I don't see this documented on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html.  
 We may also need to explain that all correspondence on behalf of the PPMC 
 should cc the PPMC private list.

 Thoughts?


 Regards,
 Alan



Well i've found this an interesting thread, i'd always thought the at
least 72 hours was one of the rules so it was interesting to hear
people saying it was flexible, and after looking i've not found any
policy doc saying it MUST be at least 72 hours.  Thanks for bring it
up.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

2011-02-23 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:

 +1

 However there might be a name conflict with the Howl transaction log over at
 object web here:

   http://howl.ow2.org/

 http://howl.ow2.org/Originally from the title, I immediately thought the
 proposal was for OW's HOWL implementation to enter the incubator.

 Agreed about the name conflict. I made the same assumption.


And I also did too.

IMHO this should pick a different name. And i think this should be
resolved before the incubation starts so that if the decision is taken
to rename then all the mailing lists etc don't need to get renamed
after they're created.

  ...ant


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Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

2011-02-23 Thread ant elder
The naming conflict was discussed but it doesn't seem resolved to me -
even just in this vote thread there's a bunch of people bringing it up
again. I'd guess thats just going to continue while the name is kept,
which be avoided by picking a new name now. I expect there will be
enough votes in this thread to carry on with the incubation
regardless, but as i said IMHO it would be better to just bite the
bullet and pick a new name now.

   ...ant

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Alan Gates ga...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:
 The naming conflict issue was brought up and resolved during the discussion
 of the proposal.  Please see http://tinyurl.com/5w7y9p9.

 Alan.

 On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:22 AM, dsh wrote:

 http://www.porchdogsoft.com/ as well provides a Zeroconf
 implementation called Howl and I am not sure whether Porchdog Software
 finally got acquired by Apple. The favicon and certain information on
 the site could make you think Apple did exactly that.

 Cheers
 Daniel

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:17 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:

 +1

 However there might be a name conflict with the Howl transaction log
 over at
 object web here:

  http://howl.ow2.org/

 http://howl.ow2.org/Originally from the title, I immediately thought
 the
 proposal was for OW's HOWL implementation to enter the incubator.

 Agreed about the name conflict. I made the same assumption.


 And I also did too.

 IMHO this should pick a different name. And i think this should be
 resolved before the incubation starts so that if the decision is taken
 to rename then all the mailing lists etc don't need to get renamed
 after they're created.

  ...ant


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Re: [VOTE] Accept Rave into the Incubator

2011-02-24 Thread ant elder
+1

   ...ant

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote:
 Given the feedback received so far I think the Rave proposal is in good
 shape so I'd like to bring up the vote for accepting Rave into the
 Incubator.

 The proposal is at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RaveProposal and also
 copied as text below.

 Please vote.

 [ ] +1 Accept Rave into the incubator
 [ ] +0 Don't care'
 [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:

 I'll close the vote at Tuesday morning 1st March CET to accommodate for the
 coming weekend. That's a little over 5 days from now.

 Regards,

 Ate

 - COPY OF PROPOSAL FROM http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RaveProposal
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 = Apache Rave Proposal =


 == Abstract ==

 Apache Rave is A new WEb And SOcial Mashup Engine. It will provide an
 out-of-the-box as well as an extendible lightweight Java platform to host,
 serve and aggregate (Open)Social Gadgets and services through a highly
 customizable and Web 2.0 friendly front-end.
 Rave is targeted as engine for internet and intranet portals and as building
 block to provide context-aware personalization and collaboration features
 for multi-site/multi-channel (mobile) oriented and content driven websites
 and (social) network oriented services and platforms.
 For the [[http://www.opensocial.org/|OpenSocial]] container and services the
 (Java) [[http://shindig.apache.org|Apache Shindig]] will be integrated. At a
 later stage further generalization is envisioned to also transparently
 support [[http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/|W3C Widgets]] using
 [[http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/|Apache Wookie]].


 == Proposal ==

 The reason for starting Rave is to bring together and combine several
 existing projects and teams currently working towards more or less the same
 or overlapping goals but each in their own small(er) target audience and
 community.

 The goal for Rave is to become a lightweight and open-standards based
 extendible platform for using, integrating and hosting !OpenSocial and W3C
 Widget related features, technologies and services.
 It will also provide strong context-aware personalization, collaboration and
 content integration capabilities and a high quality out-of-the-box
 installation as well as be easy to integrate in other platforms and
 solutions.

 The initial features for Rave will at least be based on the current
 capabilities from the contributing external projects, for which they will
 provide the necessary code contributions.
 However, the code base for Rave will be built anew with strong focus on
 generalization, customization and extendibility to support the intended
 multi-purpose adoption and integration.
 The contributing external projects will start using and switch to the new
 Rave based solution as soon as the initial features become available to
 ensure the continued participation and interest from their side as well as
 their own communities.

  The intended initial features include: 

 '''Core Features'''
  1. Advanced !OpenSocial compliance and optional features support
  1. !OpenSocial persistence and SPI (Service Provider Interface)
 implementation
  1. Self-service application administration including security, gadget
 management and page templates
  1. User and group management with full privacy model
  1. Gadget repository with life-cycle management (install/update/remove) and
 extended meta data (categories, comments, ratings, etc.)
  1. Dynamic and highly customizable front-end engine (skins, pages, tabs,
 layouts, navigation)
  1. Full OAuth support
  1. Support for security restrictions on both Gadgets and page/tag/layout
 customizations
  1. Set of common and general purpose Gadgets to be usable out-of-the-box
  1. Support for inter-gadget messaging with examples

 '''Extensible Features'''
  1. Pluggable persistence
  1. Pluggable security model with example modules for authentication and
 authorization
  1. Support for !OpenSocial extensions not (yet) defined in the
 specification
  1. Support for other (non-standard, yet) pluggable container services and
 extensions

 Beyond these initial features the vision and scope for Rave goes much
 further and includes integrating and providing other highly desired/needed
 features like:

  * native W3C Widgets support through
 [[http://incubator.apache.org/wookie|Apache Wookie]]
  * pluggable and extendible content integration and management services
  * space extensions and management features, like
 http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Space_extension
  * context aware features and extensions integration for personalized and
 social network and (mobile) device oriented sites and channels
  * enhanced client-side widget messaging, coordination and co-location
 support like using [[http://www.openajax.org|OpenAjax]] Hub and Registry
  * space, page and Gadget based linking, navigation, coordination and
 collaboration
  * inline widget rendering, like
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1402
  * 

Re: [PROPOSAL] MRUnit entry into the Apache Incubator

2011-02-27 Thread ant elder
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Eric Sammer esam...@cloudera.com wrote:

 == Rationale ==
 MRUnit has existed as a contrib component of Apache Hadoop. This has served
 to introduce users to the library and to provide necessary functionality to
 developers in the form of development support. That said, MRUnit is not
 necessarily an intrinsic component of Hadoop proper and could benefit from
 being a standalone project in that:
  * A separate project would support an independent development and release
 schedule allowing for faster iteration and response to user requests.
  * Separating adjunct projects from the core Hadoop codebase simplifies
 Hadoop's build and release.
  * MRUnit users can get a simpler artifact in a way most appropriate to
 development time (i.e. Maven or Ivy repositories).
  * MRUnit can build out independent support for different versions of Hadoop
 without requiring circular dependencies or testing issues.


I don't know, none of those things really sound like justification for
a separate TLP, keeping something like this nearby to Hadoop MapReduce
seems like it would help give it a better chance of long term survival
 to me. Wouldn't simply moving mrunit out from
hadoop/mapreduce/trunk/src to somewhere else so it can do its own
releases and deploy its artifacts achieve all those objectives?

   ...ant

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Re: [PROPOSAL] MRUnit entry into the Apache Incubator

2011-02-28 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi Guys,


 I don't know, none of those things really sound like justification for
 a separate TLP, keeping something like this nearby to Hadoop MapReduce
 seems like it would help give it a better chance of long term survival
  to me. Wouldn't simply moving mrunit out from
 hadoop/mapreduce/trunk/src to somewhere else so it can do its own
 releases and deploy its artifacts achieve all those objectives?...

 Personally I don't believe that the project has any chance for survival at 
 Apache unless this Incubator project happens.

 The Hadoop community has been VOTE'ing over the past month to abandon 
 development of portions of their code base (namely contrib portions that no 
 developers or users are maintaining or leveraging). MRUnit came up as one of 
 those contribs, and what was discovered was that some of the issues with the 
 Hadoop community (electing new committers, having too many products tied to a 
 single release cycle, too many infrequent releases) had stagnated the 
 development of MRUnit so much that a small sect of Hadoop developers had 
 forked MRUnit into Github and were developing it there. So there *was* active 
 development going on, it just wasn't at Apache.

 A few of us members (myself, Patrick and Nige) were willing to step up and 
 volunteer that in contrast to seeing an ASF product and its community head 
 over to Github and continue development there, we'd like the product to stick 
 around at the ASF.

 There is no hard and fast rule as to the size of a community for TLP-status, 
 and that's far down the road anyways aka why are we worrying about that now 
 during a [PROPOSAL] phase when it's an *exit criteria* for the Incubator? The 
 point of Incubation is to help grow that community and sort that stuff out 
 and I have no doubt in my mind that these folks here on the proposal who are 
 willing and trying to develop something successful at Apache can't meet that 
 challenge.


You're right about the entry criteria, there's a very low bar to
becoming an Incubator poddling so if you all really want to I'm pretty
sure you'll be able to make it happen. But this is a proposal
discussion thread which asks for feedback so thats what i gave.

Now that you've explained further I even more think it doesn't seem
quite right. Sounds to me like the Hadoop PMC is a bit disfunctional
if they couldn't make these guys committers and pushed them off to
github and maybe it would be better to just fix that. Or split
MapReduce out of Hadoop to its own new TLP which you'd think would be
more willing to embrace MRUnit.

   ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] MRUnit entry into the incubator

2011-03-02 Thread ant elder
As commented in the proposal thread I'm pretty dubious that incubation
is the best approach for this, so i vote 0.

The potential committers for MRUnit are MapReduce users and developers
so moving this away and having separate mailing lists means they'll
lose all sight of it. At the very least I think there should not be a
mrunit-user list created and instead the MapReduce user list should be
used to keep some visibility over there.

I don't understand the reasons why its hard to have a separate release
cycle for this within Hadoop -  just svn move the code up out of from
being within mapreduce like is done with the other Hadoop subprojects.
Hopefully this would graduate to being a sub-project of Hadoop so
thats exactly where it will end up.

   ...ant

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Eric Sammer esam...@cloudera.com wrote:
 All:

 Discussions from the [PROPOSAL] thread seem to have tapered off so I'd like
 to call a vote on accepting MRUnit into the incubator. I'm re-pasting the
 proposal for simplicity. We'll leave the vote open for 72 hours.

 Thanks!

 = MRUnit, a library to support unit testing of Hadoop MapReduce jobs =

 == Abstract ==
 MRUnit is a java library that provides mocks and infrastructure for writing
 unit tests for Hadoop MapReduce jobs and related components.

 == Proposal ==
 MRUnit is a java library to facilitate unit testing of Hadoop MapReduce jobs
 by providing drivers and mock objects to simulate the Hadoop runtime
 environment of a map reduce job. This code base already exists as a
 subproject of the Apache Hadoop MapReduce project and lives in the contrib
 directory of the source tree.

 == Background ==
 Writing unit tests of MapReduce jobs can be a tedious process. User code can
 quickly become entangled with Hadoop APIs making testing difficult and error
 prone. In many cases, users will simply forgo testing given the complexity
 of the environment. MRUnit was created as a simple library users can use in
 conjunction with test suites like JUnit to provide a harness for injecting
 appropriate mock objects.

 == Rationale ==
 MRUnit has existed as a contrib component of Apache Hadoop. This has served
 to introduce users to the library and to provide necessary functionality to
 developers in the form of development support. That said, MRUnit is not
 necessarily an intrinsic component of Hadoop proper and could benefit from
 being a standalone project in that:
  * A separate project would support an independent development and release
 schedule allowing for faster iteration and response to user requests.
  * Separating adjunct projects from the core Hadoop codebase simplifies
 Hadoop's build and release.
  * MRUnit users can get a simpler artifact in a way most appropriate to
 development time (i.e. Maven or Ivy repositories).
  * MRUnit can build out independent support for different versions of Hadoop
 without requiring circular dependencies or testing issues.

 Having greater development and tooling support for Hadoop makes the project
 accessible to a wider audience by reducing the chance of bugs.

 == Initial Goals ==
  * Provide a new home for the existing codebase.
  * Make artifacts available via Maven and / or Ivy.
  * Expand test support for other Hadoop components (e.g. Partitioners)
  * Establish a lightweight, independent release cycle.

 == Current Status ==
 === Meritocracy ===
 MRUnit was originally created by Aaron Kimball, and has had some
 contributions from members of the Hadoop community. By becoming its own
 project, significant contributors to MRUnit would become committers, and
 allow the project to grow.

 === Community ===
 The MRUnit community is predominantly composed of engineers who author
 MapReduce jobs running against Apache Hadoop. Given that this library
 appeals to a specific subset of the overall Apache Hadoop community, it
 makes sense to decouple its release cycle from that of Hadoop as a whole, to
 allow more rapid iteration in this space.

 === Core developers ===

 Aaron Kimball wrote most of the original code and is familiar with open
 source and Apache-style development, being a Hadoop committer. A number of
 other contributors have provided patches to this codebase over time. Eric
 Sammer has worked as a committer on Flume, a github-based open source
 project.

 === Alignment ===
 MRUnit aligns with Hadoop as it aims to be a testing harness and framework
 for the Hadoop MapReduce framework.

 == Known Risks ==
 === Orphaned products ===
 All members of the team are committed to making MRUnit a success.

 === Inexperience with Open Source ===
 The initial code comes from Hadoop where it was developed in an open-source,
 collaborative way. All the initial committers are committers on other Apache
 projects (with the exception of Eric who is experienced with open source
 development at Github and other communities), and are experienced in working
 with new contributors.

 === Homogenous Developers ===
 The initial set of committers is 

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Lucene.Net 2.9.2-incubating-RC2

2011-03-05 Thread ant elder
Looks good to me, +1.

It would be nice to include some sort of release notes or changes file
within the distributions

   ...ant

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 I'm happy to announce that Lucene.Net 2.9.2-incubating-RC2 is
 available and ready for your testing and voting. This will be our
 first release since returning to the Incubator. We look forward to
 your input.

 Release candidate artifacts:

 http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/2.9.2-incubating-RC2/dist/

 SVN tag revision:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lucene.net/tags/Lucene.Net_2_9_2_RC2

 PPMC Vote Thread:

 http://bit.ly/eGcbYY

 The vote is open for 72 hours and passes if a majority of at least
 three +1 Lucene.Net PMC votes are cast.

 Please cast your votes!

 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Lucene.Net 2.9.2-incubating
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

 Thanks to everyone involved for the hard work and contributions which
 made this release possible.

 Thanks,
 Troy

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