[digitalradio] Offsets for digital modes

2007-05-28 Thread Rick
and the tones will be placed correctly in your passband of the rig. 73, Rick, KV9U Paul wrote: What is the designation of 10.140 + 1000Hz? When I've looked at band plans I sometimes see 20M psk designated as 14.070.150 More often it is 14.070. When I tune, I tune to 14.070 with a Ten Tec

Re: [digitalradio] Offsets for digital modes

2007-05-28 Thread Rick
the battery through the firewall in her truck. We just got the bug catcher antenna so she can try out HF mobile, mostly on 75 meters. 73, Rick, KV9U John Becker wrote: I have no waterfall when I operate RTTY or software or computer or can click on anything. But I can do the math from

Re: [digitalradio] Offsets for digital modes

2007-05-28 Thread Rick
. The free Multipsk program can decode AMTOR ARQ but of course has no way to handle repeats. It can transmit and receive with AMTOR FEC. Similarly, it can listen to Pactor 1 ARQ and it can transmit Pactor FEC. 73, Rick, KV9U Danny Douglas wrote: Since I dont use either Pactor or Amtor, I

Re: [digitalradio] JT65A HF query/observations

2007-05-30 Thread Rick
still would like to see is a sound card ARQ modes that is scaleable in speed and also can work with weak signals, QSB, etc. 73, Rick, KV9U Brian A wrote: I've been playing around with this on 20M. The new version which does the decoding starting at 48 seconds is a big help

Re: [digitalradio] Here's a silly thought.

2007-05-30 Thread Rick
100 watt rig? 73, Rick, KV9U Danny Douglas wrote: Absolutely spot on Erick. That is one reason that we try to tell new people, on the digital bands, to start with as few watts as they can. There is just no reason to run 100 watts ( and I expect some run more) on the PSK, etc. digital modes

Re: [digitalradio] 12 meter activity (or lack thereof)

2007-05-30 Thread Rick
the propagation. 73, Rick, KV9U Joe Veldhuis wrote: 10 meters has been open almost every day for the last month, with MUFs often reaching 6 meters (and sometimes as high as FMBC) somewhere in north america. Given that the F2 MUF has been getting up to 15 meters pretty consistently, and Es

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-05-31 Thread Rick
say, it only takes one person to make the difference when it comes to developing new software and concepts. Sometimes it can be a big difference changing all the rules. 73, Rick, KV9U Skip KH6TY wrote: ** The following was my submission. After further on-the-air tests, I am now

[digitalradio] Power vs. proper modulation of digital signals

2007-05-31 Thread Rick
. 73, Rick, KV9U Loyd Headrick wrote: I work mostly digital and have had this problem with the BIG boys running enough power to light up half the town. I've made contacts with 10 watts. if I can't work a station at 10 watts 100 isn't going to help much more except to prove that I can't

Re: [digitalradio] Dead US Veteran/Ham question

2007-06-01 Thread Rick
provide military honors at funerals. You do not have to be a member of the organization. The American Legion is an organization Chartered by Congress and has certain duties to carry out in support of veterans. Rick, KV9U Member and Officer of my local Post Andrew O'Brien wrote: Thanks

Re: [digitalradio] HFLINK Comments to ARRL on Development of New HF Digital Comm Protocols]

2007-06-03 Thread Rick
that they will eventually publish some kind of collation of the input and perhaps we may find some areas of consensus. 73, Rick, KV9U Art Botterell wrote: They say it's not an RFP, and I have no reason to doubt that, but that still leaves me wondering what the League's query actually

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread Rick
on your part. If you disagree with someone, why not respond by calmly explaining why their view appears to be wrong (to you) instead of attacking them. You might find it better for everyone, including yourself. Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: Bruce, When are you ever going to stop your babling

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread Rick
here in the state but I think most of those have been discontinued. But we can not just think of our area since we could cause serious interference to other areas and even regions if the bands open with Es and F layer propagation. Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: Rick, Unless you have had

[digitalradio] Why some bands have low useage

2007-06-04 Thread Rick
failure prone infrastructure. 73, Rick, KV9U bruce mallon wrote: ITS NOT what is going on is the government has radar on that band and HAMS are not supposed to interfere with it. They have a problem with that radar. NOW if 70cm goes away it will go back to the GOVERNMENT. SAME OLD LIES

Re: [digitalradio] Linux WINE users who use Win XP Ham Digital Programs

2007-06-06 Thread Rick
with my hardware:( 73, Rick, KV9U Howard Brown wrote: Rick, my answer to your question is no (I do not have those two programs running as well under Wine/Linux). I do have a rig control program running under Wine for my TS-2000 - ARCS II by WB5KIA. There may be others for your rig. gMFSK

Re: [digitalradio] Most robust digi-mode with 200 to 600 bps ?

2007-06-08 Thread Rick
not be difficult to do this. Many years ago, I assembled a Heath HERO robot kit as a demonstration project for the agency I worked with at the time and it was relatively simple to program speech by using various phonemes. I am not sure how useful this would be though. 73, Rick, KV9U cesco12342000

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Most robust digi-mode with 200 to 600 bps ?

2007-06-08 Thread Rick
some solutions. 73, Rick, KV9U cesco12342000 wrote: ARQ makes no sense in DV, and FEC is easily adaptable to meet those 375 or 300 data rates of those 2 modes. Are any minimum SNR numbers of those 2 modes known (375/300 bps)? The problem with ofdm (windrm style) is that it's hard to go

Re: [digitalradio] SCAMP?

2007-06-08 Thread Rick
hope is that there may be some help in a new direction with some ARRL backing for an HF emergency protocol. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: If Scamp was abandoned, is it publicly available for others to play with ? Andy K3UK __._

Re: [digitalradio] Re: SCAMP?

2007-06-09 Thread Rick
with his diametrically opposite statements. I do not recall seeing a reply. 73, Rick, KV9U Dave Bernstein wrote: Since RDFT was released under the GPL license, failure to release the source code for SCAMP may be violation of the GPL license. 73, Dave, AA6YQ

Re: [digitalradio] Re: SCAMP?

2007-06-09 Thread Rick
, Rick, KV9U cesco12342000 wrote: The rdft routines are not integrated into scamp, they are external exe's. Same trick is used by mixw, gpl-code is moved to an external library. While this seems to be legal in the scamp case, the mixw case could be different. To use GPL code in a library

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Digitalradio Skypecast 0100 UTC June 15

2007-06-15 Thread Rick
time until the band lengthened. But I can not remember how I set up the contact. It seems to me that these modes should work more like connected packet radio works. A few simple commands, and then also could work as a BBS too. That always seemed to make sense to me in the old days. 73, Rick

Re: [digitalradio] DXLab on Vista update

2007-06-16 Thread Rick
with existing equipment, and would only have it on new equipment. 73, Rick, KV9U Dave Bernstein wrote: For those running DXLab applications on Vista, the defect in the Vista File Manager has been identified, and an option has been added to each application to work around this defect. New

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-18 Thread Rick
this using an ARQ pipelining technique of performing the computer time on the last packet in the background while the next packet is coming through. In fact, this is what I hope will come out of the ARRL's interest in possibly developing a new HF mode(s) for soundcards. 73, Rick, KV9U AAR2EY wrote

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-20 Thread Rick
-mail and ALE. What is currently available other than PSKmail for Linux OS that permits anyone to set up servers to route the traffic into the internet? 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: GM Rick, Alternate Link Call (AQC) ALE is basically 2G Plus ALE in that its an advanced 8FSK

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-20 Thread Rick
throughput as 300 baud packet and how does the bandwidth compare? 73, Rick, KV9U r_lwesterfield wrote: My Rockwell ARC-190 v8 HF radio and a Rockwell Q9600 modem at “the office” into the SCOPE Command network works very well for e-mail INTERNET access but I do have access to 3khz wide

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-21 Thread Rick
. The problem with any HF DV is that it really is not very practical as it requires very good signals to work adequately and amateur radio often is challenged with weak signals. 73, Rick, KV9U Jack Hamilton wrote: Is this the reason why the AOR and ICOM digital voice modes are not available

Re: [digitalradio] Announcing the 2007 International Message QRP Relay Race... August 11: Need teams.

2007-07-12 Thread Rick
the newest modes do not compete well. 73, Rick, KV9U Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: This is interesting. Various digital proponents have tirelessly pointed out how inefficient these obsolete modes are. Why not let them compete too and let the best mode win? Rick N6RK

[digitalradio] ALE FAE mode frequencies?

2007-07-12 Thread Rick
, but it is probably best that we not tie up frequencies in the automatic portions of the bands, so how about using 14.073 USB dial frequency? Other bands? 3573, 7073, 10133? Other suggestions? 73, Rick, KV9U

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 141A ALE FAE mode

2007-07-13 Thread Rick
756 Pro 2 every so often. 73, Rick, KV9U Patrick Lindecker wrote: Hello Rick, Yes, I confirm, you must: * calibrate Multipsk with the sound card installed: click on Sampling freq. then click on Determination of the standard RX sampling frequency... and Determination of the standard

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 141A ALE FAE mode

2007-07-14 Thread Rick
a Soundblaster Live! card that is not being used, and maybe I can figure out how to get it to work with my emachine. 73, Rick, KV9U Patrick Lindecker wrote: Hello Rick, MFSK16 which requires even more accuracy I think I read in the help files, 4 Hz Yes (and MFSK8: 2 Hz...which becomes

[digitalradio] PC-ALE with ICOM 756 Pro 2

2007-07-23 Thread Rick
If there is anyone who uses a Pro 2 with PC-ALE (and is having success keying the rig) I could use some help. I have some other issues with the rig going into split operation when the program is booted and never returning the rig to normal operation. Thanks and 73, Rick, KV9U

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PC-ALE with ICOM 756 Pro 2

2007-07-23 Thread Rick
I just received word from other sources about the fact that it does not work as expected. There is to be some alpha software available and I am always available to try something new. But I can not get the rig to TX on PC-ALE at all, so something else must not be set quite right? 73, Rick

Re: [digitalradio] Hardware PTT or CAT PTT Re: PC-ALE with ICOM 756 Pro 2

2007-07-24 Thread Rick
I have had the Use CAT for PTT checked in the enable/disable options. Rick, KV9U expeditionradio wrote: Hi Rick, Depending upon your setup, you need to go into the options panel and select Use RTS for PTT or Use CAT for PTT. Bonnie KQ6XA --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-26 Thread Rick
, (some of their info says 10.120) and 14050 as much as possible. If you were operating portable with simple equipment it would almost have to be CW to work with modest antennas and a couple of watts and they can take message traffic out of normal net sequence. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien

Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-26 Thread Rick
to make it work. We are really fortunate today with the ultra compact and moderately priced portable HF CW rigs, but ironically fewer and fewer hams will be able to use them since they won't have the skill. 73, Rick, KV9U n2qz wrote: NREN is basically defunct due to lack of interest

Re: [digitalradio] digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-25 Thread Rick
received scan list, but it is primarily NJ7C and K7EK who I frequently copy at this northern midwest U.S. location. 73, Rick, KV9U WN1Z wrote: Just curious, is anyone on this list using the Digital Radio Interactive Sked Page (http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php) for anything other

Re: [digitalradio] help for setting pcale with FT1000 MP mark V

2007-08-04 Thread Rick
this model transceiver for ALE, or at least was willing to help solve the problem., assuming that the rig can actually operate with PC-ALE. It does fine with Multipsk. One wonders if there really are hundreds or thousands of ALE users as has been claimed. 73, Rick, KV9U slamat ali wrote: Dear

Re: [digitalradio] help for setting pcale with FT1000 MP mark V

2007-08-05 Thread Rick
anything like that. Again, it seems that it is difficult to find information of this kind on the internet and I rather expect it to be very openly available and very clear and concise. Steve Hajducek wrote: Hi Rick, I have replied to your comments many times on these matters: 1. PC-ALE

Re: [digitalradio] help for setting pcale with FT1000 MP mark V

2007-08-05 Thread Rick
VE2FXL to W9WIS EA2AFR Maybe try and call some of these or see if anyone is around. I am still not sure if you see connections when you monitor because thus far I have only see soundings or someone that appears to be calling to someone but no apparent response. Have I got that right? 73, Rick

Re: [digitalradio] help for setting pcale with FT1000 MP mark V

2007-08-05 Thread Rick
, it is much better in the long run to be open and inviting to others and they will want to participate if there really is a perceived benefit. 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: Hi Rick, At 02:38 PM 8/5/2007, you wrote: Steve and those interested in the ICOM rigs for ALE: I had asked

[digitalradio] Experiences from users of MIL-STD-188-110

2007-08-05 Thread Rick
throughput speeds and robustness compared with other modes? 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: Hi Andy, It is the same 8FSK modem, however it uses shorter bursts for calling and sounding and there is a PSK burst mode as well which uses the MIL-STD-188-110 modem for generation. /s/ Steve

Re: [digitalradio] Experiences from users of MIL-STD-188-110

2007-08-06 Thread Rick
, KC9ECI is a somewhat local ham who I understand was a major player in starting SKCC. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: Rick et Luc, I have set mine to no more than 300 baud to make sure I am legal below 10M, let me know if you want to sked. Of course, with ALE...we should not need

Re: [digitalradio] help for setting pcale with FT1000 MP mark V

2007-08-07 Thread Rick
using digital voice or other digital modes that we could not monitor. Is the signal legal or not? We may not be able to tell unless we have self regulation (self-policing to use the FCC terminology). 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: I don't know where you keep getting this need for 2

Re: [digitalradio] Experiences from users of MIL-STD-188-110

2007-08-07 Thread Rick
. This is made even easier these days since we have more rigs that can work on 6 meters. Anyone doing that and who is willing to report on their comparisons? 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: In the U.S. ( correct me if I am wrong) which you are located, 300bps for MIL-STD-188-110 is not legal

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ?

2007-09-01 Thread Rick
with other e-mail platforms on amateur HF frequencies. I know that I would be extremely interested. I would be even more interested though in something that would work more robustly on the lower bands, would be perhaps a bit wider, but kept under 500 Hz in width. 73, Rick, KV9U Darrel Smith

Re: [digitalradio] A Beginner's Look at Ham Radio's Digital Future with Jeff Reinhart, AA6JR

2007-09-01 Thread Rick
high, but likely very unrealistic, expectations. 73, Rick, KV9U Mark Thompson wrote: A Beginner's Look at Ham Radio's Digital Future with Jeff Reinhart, AA6JR http://www.therainreport.com/rainreport_archive/rainreport-8-30-2007.mp3

Re: [digitalradio] PC Monitors for ham use?

2007-09-01 Thread Rick
computers. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: Any thoughts on a wide screen PC monitor versus a standard screen? I'm thinking of adding a 21 inch wide screen. Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PC Monitors for ham use?

2007-09-02 Thread Rick
to be a consultant who did a fair amount of document development and needed to compare docs and cut and paste, etc. 73, Rick, KV9U Brian A wrote: Rick, I am really bothered by loosing still more lines of text with these wide screen beasties. The present OS's are like Stephen Kings Langoliers

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ?

2007-09-02 Thread Rick
and text digital modes are limited in supporting that need. DV might be OK, but that would be something to consider maybe a decade or two from now. Maybe much longer. 73, Rick, KV9U Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: 1. Stick CD into computer 2. Reboot How much simpler can it get? On Sun, 2 Sep

Re: [digitalradio] Mixed modes regardless of bandplan in an emergency?

2007-09-03 Thread Rick
as a FAX and should be allowed on voice frequencies. Should I ask the FCC for clarification on this? Has anyone else ever done this or know of anyone who has and was told no? 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: -Go for the changes and then lobby our Division Directors to get the ARRL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mixed modes regardless of bandplan in an emergency?

2007-09-03 Thread Rick
? Or do you need to send the text down in the text digital part of the band and the separate image in the voice/image part of the band? Personally, I think that the rules are not reasonable. 73, Rick, KV9U Steve wrote: I think it would be best not to ask. Some things are purposely left out

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help

2007-09-05 Thread Rick
/ttyUSB3 in the Device box which should match this virtual COM port location. I have tried many others, but no luck either. 73, Rick, KV9U Tony wrote: All, Is it possible to run PSK-Mail from a Knoppix Live CD? If not, how does one use PSK-Mail with a Windows OS? Thanks, Tony - K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] pskmail_puppy for windows

2007-09-09 Thread Rick
work flawlessly in order to use an ARQ mode. Is there any place you can point us to in order find out how to make this work from a Live CD? Not much information on the fldigi site. 73, Rick, KV9U Rein Couperus wrote: Vesa works here, Xorg has a problem. 1024x768 is a good resolution. Rein

Re: [digitalradio] pskmail_puppy for windows

2007-09-09 Thread Rick
? 73, Rick, KV9U Rein Couperus wrote: Hi Rick, the QEMU emulator only emulates a simple Cirrus Logic GD5446 Video card with vesa extensions. I am no QEMU specialist, only a simple user, and I have to my XYL's windows PC to test this software :) The puppy windows version does not need rig

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Rick
in FCC regulations. And maybe they really work well on HF, even with what seems like impossible waveforms. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: I guess, from my point of view, PSK mail won't really take off until it is written for windows as well as Linnux. Despite the linnux user's best

[digitalradio] HFLinkNet

2007-09-10 Thread Rick
it on the voice frequencies where there does not seem to be any baud rate limitation. 73, Rick, KV9U Walt DuBose wrote: The key...a change in FCC regulations. There are commercial modes that have a user throughput of over 2000 WPM with ZERO errors and can provide 100% copy at a -12 dB

Re: [digitalradio] The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-10 Thread Rick
as done in P2 - keep the constellation simpler at only 2PSK and 4PSK, not even 8PSK - avoid ASK modes which they found years ago did not work well on HF - use multiple tones that can be dropped off when conditions get rough in order to have wider spacing 73, Rick, KV9U - Andrew

Re: [digitalradio] The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-10 Thread Rick
the FEC modes other than perhaps MFSK16. I suspect most just use whatever seems to work OK and is readily available and commonly used so that they have a better chance for a QSO. 73, Rick, KV9U schuetzen wrote: Rick, a big plus to me is FEC, I do not see that you mentioned that in your

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Rick
the problem so it is likely still there. I used to make frequent backups because just making one little maneuver with multiple pages of tables in Word would trash the entire file:( But in the final analysis, when you compare free with $500 or so, I will go with OO:) 73, Rick, KV9U Walt DuBose

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-11 Thread Rick
that these modes do not work all that well below zero dB S/N. 73, Rick, KV9U Jose A. Amador wrote: Pactor uses convolutional encoding with Viterbi decoding, which allows maximum likelyhood detection. Which means that the decoder knows, taking into account the history of the stream what symbols

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-12 Thread Rick
of us use for digital modes, typically running at 25 watts or so with a 100 watt transmitter. 73, Rick, KV9U Jose A. Amador wrote: Rick wrote: Hi Jose, Do you see any difference between the convolutional code of Pactor and the Viterbi code in MFSK16 or Patrick's use of Viterbi code

Re: [digitalradio] Sound card ARQ protocol

2007-09-12 Thread Rick
have a good frame. 73, Rick, KV9U Vojtech Bubnik wrote: Let me describe what I learned from the documents published about Pactor. For memory ARQ to work, the frame frequency and time position and frame length must be known with a lot higher probability than the frame content. Also frame

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Rick
that would replace it. 73, Rick, KV9U Claudio Ruben wrote: A rookie question: What program let use Pactor 3. Claudio-LU2VCD

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Rick
program being using these waveforms on a daily basis since they legally can? Wouldn't it take one demo to show how well they work? 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: Hi Rick, Take any non-GUI or even a GUI OS that has been tailored down for the embedded application at hand that is running

Re: [digitalradio] Re: So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Rick
. Are you able to TX 2400 baud data modes in Greece? If so, how about testing some of the sound card ALE modes and letting us know how they work? 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] - At least one person who

Re: [digitalradio] Re: So there I was -

2007-09-15 Thread Rick
, it is not that easy to get even a 10 dB S/N ratio on HF bands. Many of our communications on HF are below that and are borderline for SSB. But they are good for digital/CW modes down to -15 or so. 73, Rick, KV9U Hi Rick, Well it all depends on what is an amateur mode. Is it a mode which is free

Re: [digitalradio] Re: So there I was -

2007-09-15 Thread Rick
working with a nearby station that I do tests with on HF. Additional testing would be helpful. Also, is anyone else testing this mode? Any results to share? 73, Rick, KV9U jhaynesatalumni wrote: Yet I have one friend who it is hard to interest in any of the newer modes because he loves

[digitalradio] Pactor modes vs. sound card modes

2007-09-15 Thread Rick
at the computer simulations done by Rick, KN6KB, the SCAMP inventor (using an average of ionospheric conditions) he shows: At the best conditions of +10 dB, P3 at 225 cps, SCAMP 97 cps, P2 50 cps, P1 20 cps, MT-63 20 cps At +5 dB -- P3 ~ 150 cps, P2 ~ 40 cps, P1 20 cps, MT-63 20 cps At zero dB

Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE

2007-09-17 Thread Rick
Nothing heard here in midwest U.S. but am calling CQ in FAE mode with Multipsk at 1800 Z. 73, Rick, KV9U Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi all, I am scanning 14.109 and 14.112 with multipsk in 141A mode. Is the someone out there who wants to try to contact me in ARQ FAE ? 73 de LA5VNA

[digitalradio] Comments from ARRL on digital modes

2007-09-17 Thread Rick
For those interested, I had written an e-mail to Paul Rinaldo, W4RI, ARRL CTO, and asked several questions on the legal and practical implications of digital modes. I posted this information, with my questions and his responses on the HFDEC yahoogroup. 73, Rick, KV9U

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Busy Detectors

2007-09-17 Thread Rick
operation where there is no requirement (as their currently is) to insure that you are not intentionally interfering with an ongoing busy frequency as has been recently suggested. I certainly would not support such an idea considering that the technology has made it unnecessary. 73, Rick, KV9U

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Busy Detectors

2007-09-18 Thread Rick
Thanks for your clarification of the GPL use in this case, Rud. The reason for expecting Rick to GPL the code is because he said that he was going to GPL the code. Pretty clear cut. 73, Rick, KV9U Rud Merriam wrote: The SCAMP testing only used the RDFT executables, not the original source

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Busy Detectors

2007-09-19 Thread Rick
would be quite impressed with the ability to not transmit except on a clear frequency. 73, Rick, KV9U Robert Thompson wrote: Specifically, if someone was already holding a SSB QSO (one of the more difficult standard cases), would it successfully hold off until they abandoned the frequency

Re: [digitalradio] Re: [hflink] ARQ FAE

2007-09-19 Thread Rick
several levels of multiple PSK ARQ tones to meet the different conditions and operate reasonably fast in poor conditions and very fast in good conditions, we would have a mode comparable to Pactor 3. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote: But isn't 375 bps too little for 2khz width? Pactor 3

Re: [digitalradio] re: ARQ FAE

2007-09-20 Thread Rick
cards. After all, the Pactor box is basically a dedicated computer with the equivalent of a sound card to send the tones to the rig. Because it is a real time kind of system, it is much easier to provide exact timing for switching speeds but we don't need to do that. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre

[digitalradio] ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-22 Thread Rick
the clear channels that government/military typically have. 73, Rick, KV9U expeditionradio wrote: Rud k5rud wrote: My recent readings indicate that the ALE standards are _NOT_ good for ham use because the military is not power limited. They can attain good SNRs because of this. Hams

Re: [digitalradio] ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-23 Thread Rick
is that we will have sound card systems that are open source, can connect directly to the internet with a server software but can also connect to peer stations, and be competitive in speed and robustness with Pactor. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: Rick; please let me know where you

Re: [digitalradio] ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-23 Thread Rick
and comparing against existing modes? Does anyone hazard a guess why this is so? 73, Rick, KV9U Patrick Lindecker wrote: Hello Rick, It is a crude waveform, it isn't very fast for its bandwidth, it can not change speeds or parameters to meet conditions, but it will work for some messaging. We need

Re: [digitalradio] ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-24 Thread Rick
and linking and then you switch over to the other PSK modes? If they do, then what is he saying in his above statement? 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: Hi Rick, Patricks FAE ARQ is an excellent protocol, it is the best example to date in my opinion of a PCSMD based ARQ protocol developed

Re: [digitalradio] ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-24 Thread Rick
using the 8FSK125 waveform? When I use the term ALE, I am using it as a sort of shorthand for the whole series of protocols, some of which may be adopted by radio amateurs. When I use the term 3G, it refers to the newer protocols. 73, Rick, KV9U Steve Hajducek wrote: Hi Rick

Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000

2007-09-27 Thread Rick
. on the text data portions of the bands, they can use them on the voice/image portions if they are sending images or fax. Curiously, I have heard no experiences with SSTV or other image operators using these modes. 73, Rick, KV9U Les Keppie wrote: Hi All Maybe some of you Digital Data movers

[digitalradio] RFSM2400 vs. PC-ALE

2007-09-28 Thread Rick
to be over zero dB, but it could at least give you a feel for the capabilities (or not) of the mode, relative to other digital modes. 73, Rick, KV9U Les Keppie wrote: Hi Rick Well so far with the testing we are doing on RFSM8000 it appears to work very well - below are some transfer

Re: [digitalradio] RFSM2400 vs. PC-ALE

2007-09-29 Thread Rick
waveform 141A? 73, Rick, KV9U Les Keppie wrote: Hi Rick Yes relative S/N reports are given for each paket - but what they relate to is any ones guess and since I have no really good test equipment that would do this cant really answer - but yes good data can still be passed with signal

Re: [digitalradio] 30 Meter PropNet Weekend October 6/7

2007-09-29 Thread Rick
Is this 30 meter beacon activity legal? Can you reference where Part 97 permits this here in the U.S. below 28.0 MHz? Appreciate your help in understanding this. 73, Rick, KV9U Don wrote: Please join us to promote 30m PSK and Propagation Study on 30 meters (PropNet anchor freq= 10.1395

Re: [digitalradio] RFSM2400 vs. PC-ALE

2007-09-29 Thread Rick
out later that you could have been doing something legally all along. I do want to ask about how they view the operation of automatic stations that do not listen before transmitting, particularly the ALE sounding and calling and the various mail systems. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote

Re: [digitalradio] RFSM2400 vs. PC-ALE

2007-09-29 Thread Rick
with SCAMP and I was quite surprised and pleased how well it worked with good signals. It will be interesting for you to provide us with more information with the weaker signals, especially those below zero dB S/N since that is the where the difficulty lies. 73, Rick, KV9U Les Keppie wrote

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 30 Meter PropNet Weekend October 6/7

2007-09-30 Thread Rick
. They are just sending out unconnected packets or data which would seem to be a beacon. Does anyone have insight into this and how the rules cover these modes? 73, Rick, KV9U Don wrote: Hi Rick KV9U, You bring up a good point actually and don't blame you for asking the question. First I must

[digitalradio] ALE QRM

2007-10-01 Thread Rick
(except for CW and voice). Even having an identifier would not help if they do not realize that the two stations are having a QSO. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: Hmm unattended soundings? John VE5MU *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [digitalradio] ALE QRM

2007-10-01 Thread Rick
member believes that I am not understanding Part 97 correctly, then please point out my error(s). I have asked this several times, and except for private e-mails on the subject, no one seems to want to deal with this issue. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: PC-ALE , and I assume Multipsk

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM

2007-10-02 Thread Rick
frequency that you are just monitoring before transmitting would be considered by most reasonable hams to be exceptionally poor operating procedure at what most would consider a true lid level. 73, Rick, KV9U Robert Thompson wrote: A couple of minor comments: 97.3(a)(9)/ Beacon/. An amateur

Re: [digitalradio] Busy Channel Detection

2007-10-02 Thread Rick
of this recently and my rig transmitted right on top of another station. This was a test so I had the power turned to minimum (a watt or two at most). 73, Rick, KV9U expeditionradio wrote: A few weeks ago, during the discussion about busy detectors, I described some of the different busy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: jt65a is an automatic mode

2007-10-02 Thread Rick
euphemisms for the actual terminology that we are working with in the rules. 73, Rick, KV9U Robert Thompson wrote: It would seem that automatic is a word that provokes un-helpful discussion. Since no meaningful discussion can be held without shared terms and meanings, maybe we could consider

Re: [digitalradio] ALE , J65, Pactor 1 thru ?, etc.

2007-10-03 Thread Rick
in the last few days that many of us even knew that some hams cannot use wide bandwidth modes on 30 meters that we can use here in the U.S. and you probably can in Canada. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: Allrighty, then! (climbing up on soapbox) I guess I am getting a little tired

Re: [digitalradio] Busy Channel Detection

2007-10-03 Thread Rick
to back off a bit and rethink what the amateur bands are all about ... which is shared spectrum. Not shared for one mode, but shared for everyone. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: I have found that I could NOT transmit once. This was during the presence of a strong broadcast band

Re: [digitalradio] On PSK31 versus other modes

2007-10-03 Thread Rick
have. I could do another SWAG on this with say, -5 or -10 S/N. 73, Rick, KV9U

Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000

2007-10-04 Thread Rick
these protocols in the voice portions of the bands. Also on 6 meters and up. There has been absolutely no measurements of S/N in real world tests on the amateur frequencies that we have heard thus far. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: Tnx fer the note, Howard Over the next week or so

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Imitating the big guys

2007-10-13 Thread Rick
used it and tried it out, the less impressed I have been:( I am sorry to report that, because I really thought that I would like it, considering the intense hype about Linux. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote: Well exactly! In ham radio we need a robust mode that can function in bad

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Imitating the big guys

2007-10-13 Thread Rick
, Thunderbird, Firefox, Media Monkey, and many ham programs. It is a constant progression from where we were at the beginning of computers. It won't suddenly stop, but will continue to evolve. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote: We already have plenty of narrow soundcard modes for QSOing so I

[digitalradio] Only using wide digital modes

2007-10-14 Thread Rick
Demetre, What you are recommending is completely unacceptable to 99.9% of all hams. Many of us operate various digital modes, both narrow and wide and in between. In the U.S., the text digital sub bands are anything that is not the voice/image sub bands. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Busy frequency detection

2007-10-14 Thread Rick
. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Winlink's continuing refusal to deploy this solution can only be interpreted one way: our traffic is more important than your traffic; if we QRM you, too bad

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Busy frequency detection

2007-10-14 Thread Rick
clear that no one owns a frequency. It is a shared resource. Not even the stations operating automatically can legally ignore that rule but there are some who wish the rule did not exist. 73, Rick, KV9U Demetre SV1UY wrote: Then why you should transmit any other mode in the wide digital

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