Re: [talk-ph] another road renamed, another border duspute

2008-12-17 Thread sorabsuperstar
Hi guys, sorry, i can hardly follow up anymore. I made the mistake to join three global OSM-talk-groups (talk, talk-legal and legal-general) and since then my inbox is BLOW AWAY by incomming traffic :/ Reg. the matter at hand: It is in fact a little bit tricky. Buendia Ave is tagged Senator

[talk-ph] Fiesta Carnival no more?

2008-12-17 Thread maning sambale
Hi, I just filed a bug that Fiesta Carnival in Cubao is now removed: http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/rssitem?id=38563 Based on this report http://baratillo.net/?p=717 Is this true? Lots of childhood memories there :(. -- cheers, maning

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transportrouting maps based on OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Gert Gremmen
There have been some efforts in NL http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/~rubke/fietskaart/index.html?zoom=12lat=52.03647lon=4.35335layers=BTFFT Integrated map with bicycle map as a separate label. We struggle with color associations in dense areas especially when multiple buses use the same

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps based onOpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Steve Chilton
Andrew Turner blogged on The State of Transit Routing the other day. See: http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/12/the-state-of-transit-routing.html Cheers STEVE -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Peter Miller Sent: Wed 12/17/2008 2:29

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps based onOpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:29:56 + Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: On 16 Dec 2008, at 23:30, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I'm interested in completely mapping my city bus network, it would be great if there was some online routing application that I could go to that

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) andrewc-email-li...@piffle.org wrote: I feel really silly for having missed this thread earlier. It's a corker, with a real live BAN POTLATCH!!! and

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: Disable Potlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Basically, you'll have to enter a brief description for every bunch of edits (just as you have to do when you update a wikipedia page) that you upload. Strictly have the option of entering, not have to enter. Comments are optional. cheers Richard -- View this

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Adam Schreiber sa...@clemson.edu wrote: I wound be very interested to see the first time that a transport authority took a person to court for promoting their services but there may be a first time! I do suggest that this is a different project from OSM though.

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I wound be very interested to see the first time that a transport authority took a person to court for promoting their services but there may be a first time! actually, I seem to remember reading on either slashdot

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: I think that would be an excellent idea, however don't assume transit authorities will always give you the data because they often won't for various reasons. One of the wonderful things about ODbL is the concept of a collective work as applied to separate databases.

[OSM-talk] Pertinent Quote

2008-12-17 Thread John McKerrell
Hi This quote seems quite relevant to OSM, even though it's talking about tagging photos predominantly: but really, it simply doesn’t matter as long as people are actually doing the tagging. - Jeremy Keith http://adactio.com/journal/1535 John

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: Disable Potlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John McKerrell wrote: Ah yes, you did mention that the other day. Surely it would only make the noise when you tried to unload the page though which wouldn't be so bad? Well, the way it works at the moment (in sane browsers) is that Potlatch sends a message via JS every time the dirty

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Elena of Valhalla wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I wound be very interested to see the first time that a transport authority took a person to court for promoting their services but there may be a first

Re: [OSM-talk] caching of landsat/yahoo images

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Roman Neumüller wrote: And: the same idea might apply for potlatch's flash/yahoo image data! Wouldn't it be nice to have already downloaded images cached ?!? Potlatch just uses the Yahoo API, it doesn't really do any further fiddling[1] as that would be outwith the ToS and I prefer to tread

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: Disable Potlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Ed Loach
I wrote (with apologies for replying to myself): I don't think I've customised my sound scheme on my work notebook (XP Pro) or home machine (Vista) and checking there the current sound scheme settings have no sound associated with Begin Navigation or End Navigation so perhaps the defaults

Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam] Re: Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: DisablePotlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 09:47, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On Wed, December 17, 2008 03:22, maning sambale wrote: Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? May I request the coders (I'm a mapper not a coder ;). To give us an overview of what will the API 0.6 will be all about? Basically, you'll have to

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: DisablePotlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Gert Gremmen
But we might consider creating a dropdown box with frequent messages like: error corrected in tag: new mapped area: more accurate positioning: Beatification of data: added waters: routing data: added POIs: to populate the comment box and of course stimulate users to do so by clearly explaining

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 15:25, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 03:02:17PM +, Peter Miller wrote: There is not however a problem as far as I know in people collecting their own timetable information from printed material and entering it into a common DV. I haven't collected

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: Disable Potlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Wed, December 17, 2008 03:22, maning sambale wrote: Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? May I request the coders (I'm a mapper not a coder ;). To give us an overview of what will the API 0.6 will be all about? Basically, you'll have to enter a brief description for every bunch of edits (just as

Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam] Re: Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: DisablePotlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Wed, December 17, 2008 10:57, Peter Miller wrote: For the avoidance of doubt, is the format of the planet file changing or does this just affect the API between editors and the DB? IIRC, the format for .osm files will be *very* *similar*. The only differences will be that, instead of

Re: [OSM-talk] caching of landsat/yahoo images

2008-12-17 Thread D Tucny
2008/12/17 Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org The JOSM plugin lakewalker has the IMHO very nice feature to cache the landsat tiles it uses for walking a lake into its own folders. I just wonder if that feature couldn't get extended to generally cache landsat images into a folder !? If

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread OJ W
How about making an iphone app where people can just type in I just saw the 555 bus go past? After a few samples you have a timetable. Or some place where people can upload timestamped tracklogs if they catch a bus. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: On 17 Dec 2008, at 15:25, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 03:02:17PM +, Peter Miller wrote: There is not however a problem as far as I know in people collecting their own timetable information

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: Disable Potlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: IIRC, you could catch the onunload event of the browser window via javascript and tell potlach. Yes, I know this should go to the -dev mailing list (and that patches are welcome, etc). :) I posted about this the other day:

[OSM-talk] GeoBase nodes import

2008-12-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, On the talk-ca list we are comparing the differences similarities between this project the TIGER import. I wanted to float the idea (to the general talk list) about importing the full data base that is available, not as shapes/ways/lines, but as nodes which show what map features the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedonOpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 09:12, Hugh Barnes wrote: Would it be useful to create a list for discussion of public transport applications within OSM. Could I suggest a title of 'talk-transit' or should this conversation be part of the 'talk-routing' list? Including PT routing in the talk-routing

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
Not that I'm planning to screenscrape the PDF timetable or anything. Though I imagine that, if I were, I'd use CAM::PDF to read the file, write my own PDF renderer, then parse the columns and put the result in a MySQL database. Purely hypothetically. Would you happen to have a hypothetically

Re: [OSM-talk] buildings and roads

2008-12-17 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Wed, December 17, 2008 06:49, Nathan Mixter wrote: Just wondering. Shouldn't buildings be rendered behind roads. Currently buildings are drawn above a road when the road is wide like a highway or major road. Obviously buildings don't cut into roads. If the road layer is on top this won't

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
I don't see why this needs to be a separate project. We already have Key:opening_hours for amenities, why not Tag:highway:bus_stop with additional tags that describe when each bus line stops there and a relation to map the greater bus route. That should be sufficient information to map the

Re: [OSM-talk] clearing the remaining coastline issues?

2008-12-17 Thread D Tucny
2008/12/17 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com There are really not that many coastine problems left in OSM. I know the view below makes it look really very bad but it is only the east and south coasts of the USA that have significant errors left. It really doesn't take too long,

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: Disable Potlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Iván Sánchez Ortega-3 wrote: AFAIK, the 0.6 API requires a comment when opening a changeset (I might be wrong on this You are. :) The wiki doc just says advised. There is no explicit reference to comment, or any other tag, within the changeset model or controller. If you think through how an

[OSM-talk] clearing the remaining coastline issues?

2008-12-17 Thread Peter Miller
There are really not that many coastine problems left in OSM. I know the view below makes it look really very bad but it is only the east and south coasts of the USA that have significant errors left. It really doesn't take too long, especially as it is hard to stop! If about 5 people

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 14:22, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I'm interested in completely mapping my city bus network, it would be great if there was some online routing application that I could go to that could plan my routes. Of course I'd have to provide it with sufficient survey information to do

[OSM-talk] caching of landsat/yahoo images

2008-12-17 Thread Roman Neumüller
The JOSM plugin lakewalker has the IMHO very nice feature to cache the landsat tiles it uses for walking a lake into its own folders. I just wonder if that feature couldn't get extended to generally cache landsat images into a folder !? If you live in a region were there is no Hires-data

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Mapper ready for 0.6? (was Re: DisablePotlatch finally)

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:52 -0800, Beej Jorgensen wrote: [about adding commit comments to changelogs] Finally, there might be some way to appeal to the mapper's pride. Putting the right comment on a change log is more than just for tracking--it's a way of saying, *this* is the work *I* did!

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Andy Street
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 19:59 +, OJ W wrote: How about making an iphone app where people can just type in I just saw the 555 bus go past? After a few samples you have a timetable. Not if they run their services like one or two bus companies I know! ;o) I suppose it could be quite

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps based onOpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Joe Hughes
Hugh Barnes said: http://code.google.com/p/googletransitdatafeed/wiki/PublicFeeds Ewww, CSV serialisations requiring their own purpose-built validator … Like you say, we can build from it. Let's look through the fields/elements, but make something proper and scalable that leverages XML as

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Joe Hughes
On 17 Dec 2008, at 7:05, Peter Miller wrote: I wonder if there is scope for an OpenTimetable.org system or similar, which is an integrated - and open - bus/train timetable database. Transport companies could be invited to supply data to this, and then it could be made available to anyone.

[OSM-talk] Rendering of Place Names in Mapnik

2008-12-17 Thread Scott Atwood
How does Mapnik select which place names to render when the cities are close enough that there would be label collisions in the rendering? And is there any good way of tagging the place name to give better hints about which place names should have priority in case of collisions? In particular,

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoBase nodes import

2008-12-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Sam Vekemans wrote: So for example, importing a park (in a mapped area) we would just show the outline dots of the park, and the user can connect the dots and show it the 'right' way osm-style. Sounds very esoteric, and it will also create a huge inflation of node tags (something that

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Place Names in Mapnik

2008-12-17 Thread Scott Atwood
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com wrote: I looked a bit at the osm.xml file for Mapnik. It currently orders them by the place tag hierarchy (city, town, suburb, village, hamlet/locality), but there doesn't seem to be any sorting within equal hierarchies (which

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Place Names in Mapnik

2008-12-17 Thread Karl Newman
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Scott Atwood scott.roy.atw...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.comwrote: I looked a bit at the osm.xml file for Mapnik. It currently orders them by the place tag hierarchy (city, town, suburb, village,

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-17 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:37:31AM +, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: Anonymous read-only access exists, so have fun :) Poke Till or myself via the osm2go-users mailing list if you have some contributions and you'd like write access. There's a Debian port taking shape in

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoBase nodes import

2008-12-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Thanks, Esoteric: i had to wiki that one :) Anyway, i dont think anyone has a problem with having Canada take the number 1 spot for nodes :) would just mean that planet file gets bigger. If it meant that importing just the nodes (with extra unique ref tags) over existing well mapped areas, (so

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:37:31AM +, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: Anonymous read-only access exists, so have fun :) Poke Till or myself via the osm2go-users mailing list if you have some contributions and

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Publisher)

2008-12-17 Thread Manuel de la Torre
___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Buildings and roads

2008-12-17 Thread Nathan Mixter
Wow, Naga City is full of buildings. How did they get so many? Are those all building=yeses? Crazy. And I thought adding all the industrial and commercial buildings was bad. Anyway I still think that if the building layers were set at a lower layer level by default and the roads to a higher,

[OSM-talk] Easy script etc., to add timestamps in gpx trails(Windows machine)

2008-12-17 Thread Tanveer Singh
MY Lowrance dumps trails without timestamps, Can somebody give me a script or something which can be used to add timestamps. I have done a lot of rural India mapping, and since no satellite images of enough detail exist for that. I cannot map it without uploading my gpx trails to OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Buildings and roads

2008-12-17 Thread maning sambale
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Nathan Mixter srmix...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow, Naga City is full of buildings. How did they get so many? Are those all building=yeses? Crazy. NAGA City GIS released their data in public domain. We are still encouraging the City government do continue adding

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Peter Miller wrote: I wound be very interested to see the first time that a transport authority took a person to court for promoting their services but there may be a first time! I do suggest that this is a different project from OSM though. Like this? Berlin Metro Bans Free iPhone

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Publisher)

2008-12-17 Thread D Tucny
2008/12/18 Manuel de la Torre mdlto...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Erm... Am I missing something? d ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps based on OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Gert Gremmen
There have been some efforts in NL http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/~rubke/fietskaart/index.html?zoom=12lat=52.03647lon=4.35335layers=BTFFT Integrated map with bicycle map as a separate label. We struggle with color associations in dense areas especially when multiple buses use the same

[OSM-talk-nl] amsterdam by balloon

2008-12-17 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
mooie beelden! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8FmOVQ-f_M stefan, goed idee? groet, floris ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] amsterdam by balloon

2008-12-17 Thread Stefan de Konink
Floris Looijesteijn wrote: mooie beelden! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8FmOVQ-f_M stefan, goed idee? kunnen we direct siften :D Wellicht leuk om contact op te nemen? Stefan ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wiki artikelen op openstreetmap kaart

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
He Floris, Mooi gedaan! hier werd tijdens de nieuwjaarsborrel al om gevraagd, door onze Wikipedia-gast :-) Zijn dit ALLE van geotag voorziene items uit de nederlandse wikipedia? Waar haal je die vandaan? Groet, Richard Floris Looijesteijn wrote: ante bracht me op een goed idee zondag:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] �ies afgesplitst

2008-12-17 Thread Tijn Buijs
Maarten Deen wrote: Omdat het nieuwe jaar weer nieuwe mappingparties met zich meebrengt (hopelijk toch) heb ik het lijstje met idee�n voor mappingparties dat onderaan [Netherlands Mapping Parties 2008] stond afgesplitst naar een nieuwe pagina (zodat daar in het toekomstige [Netherlands Mapping

[OSM-talk-nl] Lijst van ideeën voor mapping part ies afgesplitst

2008-12-17 Thread Maarten Deen
Omdat het nieuwe jaar weer nieuwe mappingparties met zich meebrengt (hopelijk toch) heb ik het lijstje met ideeën voor mappingparties dat onderaan [Netherlands Mapping Parties 2008] stond afgesplitst naar een nieuwe pagina (zodat daar in het toekomstige [Netherlands Mapping Parties 2009] naar

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wiki artikelen op openstreetmap kaart

2008-12-17 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Ze komen uit een wikipedia dump (van gister) van alle externe links. Daarin zitten voor de nederlandse versie 226000 links met coordinaat. Dit is nog even een testje met (bijna) alle coordinaten van het type landmark in de regio NL. Dat zijn er 700. Ik ga het nog even wat mooier maken de komende

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wiki artikelen op openstreetmap kaart

2008-12-17 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Ze komen uit een wikipedia dump (van gister) van alle externe links. Daarin zitten voor de nederlandse versie 226000 links met coordinaat. Dit is nog even een testje met (bijna) alle coordinaten van het type landmark in de regio NL. Dat zijn er 700. Ik ga het nog even wat mooier maken de komende

Re: [talk-au] What gives with roundabouts?

2008-12-17 Thread Liz
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Ian Sergeant wrote: (Although I think people arguing against overloading tags have a bigger campaign on their hands than just mini-roundabouts.) The highway reference tag has two things in the one tag - the highway type and the highway number. Then the double naming of

Re: [talk-au] National Park Marine Park boundaries

2008-12-17 Thread Liz
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Matt White wrote: How are people mapping National Park (or state forest or other government mandated areas)? It seems that in a lot of cases, there is no way of actually doing an on the ground survey - a lot of the boundaries aren't marked, the areas can be massively

Re: [talk-au] What gives with roundabouts?

2008-12-17 Thread Sam Couter
Sean 4ey0ll...@sneakemail.com wrote: program or device will still display the way as a roundabout that the user will still understand what it is even if the roundabout tag is removed. The user may understand, but the device won't if there are no tags. However I see below that I've been

[talk-au] National Park Marine Park boundaries

2008-12-17 Thread Matt White
How are people mapping National Park (or state forest or other government mandated areas)? It seems that in a lot of cases, there is no way of actually doing an on the ground survey - a lot of the boundaries aren't marked, the areas can be massively inaccessible etc. Add to that things like

Re: [talk-au] What gives with roundabouts?

2008-12-17 Thread Liz
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: It says that normal pedestrian islands aren't meant to be drawn as two separate ways (flares). I the pedestrian islands are *splitter islands* just being pedantic the flare is used to describe the flared direction of the incoming traffic

Re: [talk-au] National Park Marine Park boundaries

2008-12-17 Thread Matt White
b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: As it stands this hasn't really been addressed. Generally I just mark what's on the ground, ie the natural=wood boundary as this tends to give a reasonable indication of the national park boundary anyway. Obviously this has limits, but unless some government

Re: [talk-au] What gives with roundabouts?

2008-12-17 Thread Liz
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Ian Sergeant wrote: The primary questions here is: Should a suburban roundabout be mapped as a node or as a loop? My position is a node for three reasons.. or something like a josm plugin which would turn a node into a little way with 4 nodes, on demand? + When you

Re: [Talk-de] PLZ und Hausnummer

2008-12-17 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008 schrieb Markus: Hallo Kai. Vorlage von JOSM Hausnummern addr:housenumber Adressen sind ein Standardfall für Relationen. Ich denke, mittelfristig werden solche Relationen über geografische Polygone erfasst. Beispiel: Jedes Haus bekommt händisch eine

Re: [Talk-de] Gewerbegebiet = ? residential ????

2008-12-17 Thread Guenther Meyer
hmm, ich hatte immer gedacht, dass die highway-typen unclassified und residential rein von der strasse gesehen identisch sind. der einzige unterschied ist der, dass bei einem eine bebauung vorhanden ist (egal ob wohnhäuser oder gewerbliche anlagen), beim anderen nicht. das ist doch klar und

Re: [Talk-de] PLZ und Hausnummer

2008-12-17 Thread Markus
Hallo Guenther, beide seiten einer strasse zu verschiedenen orten gehoeren. Ja, solche Ausnahmen gibt es in allen Bereichen der Geo-Daten. Sie werden dann entsprechend gekennzeichnet. Die überwiegende Mehrheit lässt sich aber mit Polygonen beschreiben. Das ist simpel und intuitiv, und das

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als WMS-Dienst

2008-12-17 Thread Dr. Franz-Josef Behr
Ich habe dieses Jahr zwei Studentenprojekte betreut, die OSM-Daten mit freien WMS-Lösungen visualisiert haben. Ein Problem dabei ist z. B., dass Tags wie bridge usw. nicht ausgewertet werden... Näheres mit Links zu den Projektberichten unter

Re: [Talk-de] LKW-Routing (TV-Bericht)

2008-12-17 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo Garry, mir ging es nur darum, ob es ein Lizenzproblem (CC 2.0) mit den OSM-Daten geben könnte. Das es andere vertragliche Schwierigkeiten geben kann, steht auf einem anderen Blatt. Gruß, Stefan Garry schrieb: Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR) schrieb: Wieso? Man könnte doch die

Re: [Talk-de] Bug im merkaartor-Paket von http://www.gpsdrive.de/debian

2008-12-17 Thread Sebastian Niehaus
Sebastian Niehaus nieh...@nospam.arcornews.de writes: [...] , | [15:47:02][nieh...@crystalline:~]$ apt-cache policy merkaartor | merkaartor: | Installiert: 12314 | Kandidat: 12314 Nach dem nächtlichen Update gibt es nun eine neue Version: , |

Re: [Talk-de] YWMS, Wiki-Suche

2008-12-17 Thread Sebastian Niehaus
Joerg Ostertag (OSM Tettnang/Germany) openstreet...@ostertag.name writes: On Sonntag 14 Dezember 2008, Dirk Stöcker wrote: [...] QT4.4 ist Minimum. QT4.4.3 ist zum Betrieb empfehlenswert, da vorher mit Yahoo zu viele Probleme auftraten. [...] Das macht es schwierig, denn ich weiss nicht,

Re: [Talk-de] Lagegenauigkeit der LVA-Luftbilder

2008-12-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de wrote: gdalwarp -r cubicspline -multi -of HFA -s_srs +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=12 +k=1.00 +x_0=450 +y_0=0 +ellps=bessel +units=m +nadgrids=./BETA2007.gsb -t_srs EPSG:4326 all-31468.img all-4326.img Ich bin beeindruckt! *grummel*

Re: [Talk-de] Lagegenauigkeit der LVA-Luftbilder

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR) schrieb: Die Gebührenordnung gibt es sogar online (Pos. 2.10.1): http://online-service.nuernberg.de/eris/downloadPDF.do;jsessionid=95E0C60B88A4C8F286789E017F196AAB?id=334134 Genau darum habe ich gefragt, welche Kommune. Aber ich kann nur sagen: krass krass

Re: [Talk-de] Motorway QA - 1. Report

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
ja klar, verzeiht bitte die spaete Antwort (bin ein bisschen hinterher, aber schwer am aufholen dank Zeit bei der Arbeit ;-) ), hatte ich etwas verkuerzt dargestellt, aber ich meinte mit nur interessante Richtungspfeile aktiviert. Da sollten in diesem Fall die Pfeile m.E. nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Externe GPS-Antenne

2008-12-17 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 03:55:00PM +, Johann H. Addicks wrote: Fernspeisung/Phantomspeisung brauchen die Antennen schließlich allesamt. Interessant, das wusste ich bisher nicht. Aber was reale Preise anbelangt schau doch mal auf http://www.aucon.de/preise.htm Die dort als AS-200

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Mark us OSM

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Frederik, Frederik Ramm schrieb: Das ist eine Abweichung von 0.00131 in der Breite und 0.000738 in der Länge, oder auch rund 150 Meter. Kann proj.4 wirklich so daneben liegen? Tobias (NRW) : 51.4696196309, 6.79221558802 Tobias (complete): 51.4696117875, 6.79223525397 Tobias

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Mark us OSM

2008-12-17 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Zur Vollständigkeit: Stefan (GEOTRANS) : 51.4695998808, 6.7921828940 Tobias (NRW) : 51.4696196309, 6.79221558802 Tobias (complete): 51.4696117875, 6.79223525397 Tobias (BeTA2007): 51.4696152617, 6.79221329054 Tobias (Proj.4) : 51.4695741927, 6.79225058706 Frederik (Proj.4):

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Mark us OSM

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR) schrieb: Stefan (GEOTRANS) : 51.4695998808, 6.7921828940 Gehst Du von den alten DE-Complete Shiftwerten aus? ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Externe GPS-Antenne

2008-12-17 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Ich glaube nur, ich stelle mir das gerade irgendwie falsch / witzig vor :-) Carlson vom Dach? -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Externe GPS-Antenne

2008-12-17 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Die dort als AS-200 gelabelte Antenne lockt mich zu Weihnachten. Danke für den Link! Weniger als erwartet, aber für absehbare Zukunft noch zu viel. :) Spar' schon mal für den i747-Clone. Der kostet dort ab 199 EUR :-) Wenn jemand so eine große Antenne irgendwo preiswerter sehen sollte:

[Talk-de] Potlach: Hilfe bei Elemente wiederherstellen

2008-12-17 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! ich habe gerade gesehen, dass bei die südliche Fahrbahn der Autobahn bei Esteponia weg ist - nur noch ein Stumpen. Ich weiß aber, dass dieser da war - kann mir den einer wiederherstellen - ich komme mit Potlatch trotz Beschreibung einfach nicht klar.

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Mark us OSM

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
svhoosm schrieb: BKG 51.46960929 , 6.79223526 Komisch. Das BKG verwendet eigentlich DE_complete, welche ich auch verwende. Bislang kam da auch immer das Gleiche raus. Stefan (GEOTRANS) : 51.4695998808, 6.7921828940 Tobias (NRW) : 51.4696196309, 6.79221558802 Tobias

Re: [Talk-de] Externe GPS-Antenne

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Wenn jemand so eine große Antenne irgendwo preiswerter sehen sollte: Bitte Bescheid geben. Marine-Antennen gibt es hier sehr günstig und gut: http://www.busse-yachtshop.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Lage-Informationen (Adressen) an Bushaltestellen?

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: m.e. waere das nicht OK sondern Quatsch, es sei denn, die Haltestelle hat eine eigene Adresse. Ansonsten wuerde ich dort, wo sich geschaetzt die Adresse befindet (Luftbild), einen Adressnode hinzufuegen, sofern er noch fehlt, und an der Haltestelle die Adresse

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Marku s OSM

2008-12-17 Thread svhoosm
Hallo, hmmm, merkwürdig. Vielleicht rechnen Eure Programme intern mit unterschiedlichen Genauigkeiten bzw. fassen Rechenoperationen anders zusammen. Bei den Transformationen kann es dadurch ja auch sehr schnell zu Ungenauigkeiten kommen. Deutschlandweite Parameter werden aber sehr sehr häufig um

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Marku s OSM

2008-12-17 Thread svhoosm
Hallo, BeTA:2007? Hast du mir dazu mal eine Internetseite? Ich kann das gerade nicht einordnen. Grüße svhoosm PS: hmmm, ich bekomme irgendwie meine eigenen E-Mails an die Liste nicht obwohl es in den Mitgliedsoptionen ausgewählt ist. hmmm ___

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Marku s OSM

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo, svhoosm schrieb: BeTA:2007? Hast du mir dazu mal eine Internetseite? Ich kann das gerade nicht einordnen. Du hast es doch selbst gepostet: http://crs.bkg.bund.de/crseu/crs/eu-national.php = GERMANY = DE_DHDN / GK_3 ... Descr. of Transf. ... Submiet = DE_DHDN (BeTA, 2007) to ETRS89

Re: [Talk-de] Lage-Informationen (Adressen) an Bushaltestellen?

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2008/12/17 Tobias Wendorff tobias.wendo...@uni-dortmund.de anyone? m.e. waere das nicht OK sondern Quatsch, es sei denn, die Haltestelle hat eine eigene Adresse. Ansonsten wuerde ich dort, wo sich geschaetzt die Adresse befindet (Luftbild), einen Adressnode hinzufuegen, sofern er noch fehlt,

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als WMS-Dienst

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Dr. Franz-Josef Behr schrieb: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Results_of_Student_Projects#Hochschule_f.C3.BCr_Technik_Stuttgart_-_Stuttgart_University_of_Applied_Sciences Verdammt, das kann man als Projekt bei Euch machen? Ich bin an der falschen Uni - hier bekomme ich Ärger, wenn ich

Re: [Talk-de] Lagegenauigkeit der LVA-Luftbilder

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Sven, Sven Geggus schrieb: Der Konvertierungsfluch erzeugt zwar ein Bild, aber leider keines, das eine brauchbare Passgenauigkeit aufweist. da sind so wie das aussieht in x und y Richtung offsets drin. Wäre es vertraglich vereinbar, mir eine Kachel bereitzustellen? Dann könnte ich in

Re: [Talk-de] OSM auf dem 25C3

2008-12-17 Thread Marcus Wolschon
Am 17.12.08 schrieb Andreas Hubel a...@saerdnaer.de: Marcus Wolschon schrieb: Also ich bin bis 19:30 in einem anderen Vortrag. Welchem denn? ;-) Danach komm ich gerne rüber. Was hast du vor zu machen? An sich dachte ich halt so an gegenseitiges auf den aktuellen Stand bringen, über

Re: [Talk-de] Iblue747 im Explorer einbinden?

2008-12-17 Thread Alexander Menk
Steffen Langenbach wrote: Datum:Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:30:17 +0100 Von: Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de Hallo Chris, Kann man den iblue 747 im Explorer als Laufwerk einbinden? Das geht leider nicht. warum eigentlich nicht? Das wird daran liegen wie die interne

Re: [Talk-de] Externe GPS-Antenne

2008-12-17 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 06:41:50PM +0100, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Wenn jemand so eine große Antenne irgendwo preiswerter sehen sollte: Bitte Bescheid geben. Marine-Antennen gibt es hier sehr günstig und gut: http://www.busse-yachtshop.de/ Da habe ich keine Choke Ring-Antennen gefunden (und nur

Re: [Talk-de] OSM auf dem 25C3

2008-12-17 Thread Marcus Wolschon
Ach ja... wir haben 2 Tische und 4 Stühle zugesagt bekommen. (Hat etwas gedauert.) Kann jemand ein Garmin-Gerät mit OSM-Karte drauf oder etwas vergleichbares mitbringen? Dokumenten-Klebeband wäre noch sehr sinnvoll. Um Plakate, Strom, Ethernet, JOSM+Surveyor+Traveling Salesman kümmer ich mich

Re: [Talk-de] Externe GPS-Antenne

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Sascha Silbe schrieb: Da habe ich keine Choke Ring-Antennen gefunden (und nur die bringen bessere Multipath-Abschirmung). Ja toll, für Choke Ring-Antennen braucht man doch auch eine Groundplate oder nicht? Also mobil will ich schon noch sein. Kann man nicht auch das Autodach als Platte

Re: [Talk-de] ständiges Downloaden in JOSM

2008-12-17 Thread Detlef Reichl
Von: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Am 16. Dezember 2008 15:27 schrieb André Reichelt andr...@online.de: Ulf Lamping schrieb: 1. Es werden bereits einige neu geladene Sachen dargestellt, obwohl noch nicht alles geladen wurde entkräftigt sich durch... JOSM hat je

Re: [Talk-de] genauer Online-Transformator für Mark us OSM

2008-12-17 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Ohne es genauer geprüft zu haben, sieht es so aus, als ob Du in EPSG:4314 (Potsdam-Datum) umgerechnet hättest, also geografische Koordinaten ohne Ellipsoidübergang. Stefan Frederik Ramm schrieb: Das ist eine Abweichung von 0.00131 in der Breite und 0.000738 in der Länge, oder auch rund 150

Re: [Talk-de] Feinkost und Pizza

2008-12-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Norbert Wenzel schrieb: Ich würde shop=deli shop=deli halt ich für schwer verständlich, aufgrund der Abkürzung. Bis jetzt hab ich die immer als normalen Lebensmittelhändler, Greißler, also grocery getagged. Deli ist keine Abkürzung, sondern wirklich das englische Wort für Delikatessen (im

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