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[cia-drugs] evo morales of bolivia on jon stewart
Jon Stewart does a better job interviewing a head of state than Charlie Rose. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/270907Stewart.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/270907Stewart.htm http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7351989860835767572q=charlie+r\ ose+ahmadinijadtotal=7start=0num=10so=0type=searchplindex=0 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7351989860835767572q=charlie+\ rose+ahmadinijadtotal=7start=0num=10so=0type=searchplindex=0
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
as a crosshairs reticle. No rapid descent or high-g turn anywhere there, but if we can agree that those are myths, Atta would seem to be the only hijacker who was an experienced professional commercial and military pilot capable of even flying a passenger jet. The possibilities of Global Hawk, emergency system autopilot, and remote control from the USAF plane overhead or helicopter following, cannot be excluded but do not matter. Oswald was only a patsy, but his links to Sturgis and Seal point to Goss and Bush and Lansdale and Shackley. Similarly, the hijackers trained in Porter Goss hometown, with links to Pan Am 103 Lockerbie Air America Lebanese heroin and plane crash partners, to Saudi intel, and to Pak intel, and directly to Porter Goss himself. We don't need the patsies after that. Maybe they are alive and well in Waziristan like Osama bin Laden. Do you focus on myths or facts, on what you can know or what you can't? Do you prefer wild goose chases and unprocessed speculation trailing off into nothing, or pursue along a trail of facts? Have you noticed that not one photograph on Jean-Pierre's site is his, that you have seen nearly all elsewhere, and all are sourced elsewhere? How can Jean-Pierre be a strawman, when he is not even a source, and sources every detail? Attackin a strawman there falls in the same category as pimping initial speculations as factually qualified conclusion and passing along the government's small plane no plane theory, which we heard from USAF propaganda officer Lt Col Art Holbo the morning of 9/11/2001 on DC area TV Eyewitness News at 10:52am and then Dick Eastman, Webfairy, and Arlene Johnson took up the Small Plane Big Lie. Are you with Lt Col Art Holbo and Arlene, Mark, on the small plane Big Lie? Are you attacking Jean-Pierre as strawman so you can ignore his info which is all sourced elsewhere, not to himself? Are you promoting the high-g turn myth, the strong Pentagon wall myth, the too small part myth, the backward letters myth, the wrong color primer myth, or any other lazy-minded speculation accepted as fact while you apply a different standard to facts? Why the double standard with regard to unsupported speculation versus facts in evidence, Mark? Why the double standard? -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: Bob, WHo flew the plane that made the Pentahit? The maneuvers involved were beyond the ability of the idiot alleged to have flown the plane. Can we agree that any arabs involved in 911 were at best patsies? Do you really think the extensive multiwall penetration of the interior walls of the Pentagon is typical? If the Plane did in fact hit the pentagon as alleged, then why would the surveillance cams footage not be released?? Oh, and what the fu*k is that Mineta testimony all about, ...The plane is ten miles out, do the orders still stand?... The minute this testimony was given, some hard hitting brothers with a pliers and a blow torch should have come looking for Cheney. Here is a video of a 500mph jet hitting a concrete wall. notice the wings and their behavior on impact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVYxlGJ64Xc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVYxlGJ64Xc
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
I think any attempt to resurrect Nazis as the arch criminal element behind what is happening today is absurd. The moslem brotherhood can't really wear swastika armbands, all arab muslims are also semites. Perhaps Iranian muslims could make a case for being aryans; however, the wogs in the far east would never pass racial muster in the Nazi Big Tent that you intimate, unless, of course, the only price of admission is the hate of jews. This is Kevin Coogan/Dave Emory agitprop. Let me put this another way. Prescott Bush did not work for the Nazis, they worked for him - so to speak - as an investment opportunity. After WWII the US and USSR took whatever was worth taking from the broken third reich and incorporated it into their respective intelligence and scientific hierarchies. Therefore, with the exception of some small exile factions in Colonia Dignidad in South America or perhaps the alleged hidden bases at the south pole, whatever passed for nazi based agitation was in reality a nazi sock puppet controlled by a very much aware non-nazi intelligence handler. Remember that Skorzeny started Al Fatah after he transferred his alliegence to the western powers - Francis Parker Yockey and Francois Genoud aside. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the 19 arabs were patsies -Mark Urban There are two streams of arab patsies. One is al-CIA-duh, literally CIA personnel dataBASE of political islam inherited from British colonialism. The other is Muslim Brotherhood, the WW2 German nazi version of MIb al-CIA-duh, and thanks to that old Sax Goat Pergamos brotherhood, Skull and Bones, the British and Germanic arab assets are one and the same. Sam and Prescott Bush cultivated Adolf Hitler from the 1920's. The 19th century US robber barons poured their plunder into building Speers, Krupp, and Hitler's utopia, while plundered Americans suffered through the Great Depression. This is what the president's father meant by,Capital transfer to those who are higher, tighter, and righter...the velvet fist is off the iron glove...if the American people knew what we were doing they would chase us down the street and lynch(Nuremburg) us from the lamp posts. The model is always to loot like 19th century Robber Barons and Enron and no-bid Halliburton contracts for no-win no-reason wars, and bypass elections, putting various Hitlers in power. Prescott Bush's Hitler factory employed a lot of German nazis who had helped Prescott put Hitler in power, and who had cultivated the Muslim Brotherhood, including the Grand Mufti and Saddam Hussein. This is how the Bush family consolidated Muslim Brotherhood of German nazis with the British colonialist database of political islam. Porter Goss' 911 contractor, Pak ISI chief General Mahmud Amad, had Amed Omar Saeed Sheikh send $200,000 to Atta who was in Goss' hometown. Omar had been involved in kidnapping before he kidnapped Wall St Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, and in airplane hijacking before 911. Omar spoke highly of Hitler's blueprint Mein Kampf and held up a copy for one of his kidnap victims years before he kidnapped Daniel Pearl, and before 911. That hints at Muslim Brotherhood involvement in 911 and there is ample evidence of that, including one of Omar's associates, Mohamed Atta, whose father was in Muslim Brotherhood. Muslim Brotherhood have been Prescott Bush's assets since he managed the US Robber Barons loot and managed Hitler from the 1920's. Daniel Hopsicker documents a Lebanese heroin mob connection to Atta and the British colonialist al-CIA-duh and Germanic Skull and Bones Prescott Bush Muslim Brotherhood patsies. Like the Pak heroin junta connecting Porter Goss to Mohamed Atta, the Lebanese heroin clan gained something from 911 as obvious as trillions of dollars in weapons and oil profits. The Lebanese heroin clans which CIA heroin Air America had used to bring down Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie gained freedom from their Syrian overseers by US intervention chasing the Syrians out of the Bekaa Valley after 911. Pak heroin junta received control of Afghan poppies by intervention of US global heroin colonialist mercenaries in Afghanistan after 911. Hopsicker documents mostly Saudi intel and Lebanese heroin family and CIA connections to Atta and the patsies in Porter Goss' hometown. The Pak connection directly linking Goss in yet another way to Atta is thoroughly documented in many sources. Another hint of Germanic Muslim Brotherhood tentacle into British East India heroin colonialist al-CIA-duh databse of political islamist assets is the Bohringer and other German connections between Atta and CIA and Porter Goss. Greg Palast writes about the cozy relationship where the Saudis funded the Baker Plan and Jim Baker moved into the White House. Though Chipper Shredder has a hotline to anonymous oil company janitors who deny responsibility, Jim
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
Bob, WHo flew the plane that made the Pentahit? The maneuvers involved were beyond the ability of the idiot alleged to have flown the plane. Can we agree that any arabs involved in 911 were at best patsies? Do you really think the extensive multiwall penetration of the interior walls of the Pentagon is typical? If the Plane did in fact hit the pentagon as alleged, then why would the surveillance cams footage not be released?? Oh, and what the fu*k is that Mineta testimony all about, ...The plane is ten miles out, do the orders still stand?... The minute this testimony was given, some hard hitting brothers with a pliers and a blow torch should have come looking for Cheney. Here is a video of a 500mph jet hitting a concrete wall. notice the wings and their behavior on impact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVYxlGJ64Xc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVYxlGJ64Xc --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arlene, Jean-Pierre is with me, in that elite group that can count on each other to be right or get right, and talks privately on the phone. I researched the engine parts, spoke with an engine company spokesperson who said the part looked like a compressor stage part. Then Jean-Pierre located a Rolls-Royce engine diagram showing the wheel part is a compressor stage part, and showing additionally that the shroud found near the wheel is on the diagram as well. You are not dealing with facts. You are becoming conspicuous for ignoring facts like the two Rolls-Royce engine parts, compressor wheel and shroud with holes in it, matching the company maintenance diagram, and Rolls-Royce being the engine on American Airlines 757's and not other 757's. If you can't face facts you have another allegiance. -Bob Re: [cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn Bob- You're treating this link as gospel. Where was it in 2001 when all of the evidence poured into us??? If you read the voluminous amount of proof that I have from all directions, then, you, too, will realize that this Web site is BS, a work of propaganda to fool the gullible. Yet, even it has the word, cordite, which is from a bomb, not a jet. This was the most transparent crime ever committed in my humble opinion! Peace, Arlene Johnson Publisher/Author http://www.truedemocracy.net To access my editions, click on the icon that says Magazine. -Original Message- From: muckblit Sent: Sep 22, 2007 6:21 PM To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn one source stated that the lettering on the AA part was backwards -Arlene No. http://www.earth-citizens.net/pages-en/wr-redl.html according to loose change the engine part that was at the scene was too small for that type of plane -Arlene No. http://www.earth-citizens.net/pages-en/wr-eng.html It's from the compressor stage, not the front turbofan section which has bigger round objects in it. You can clearly see the wheel and the shroud with holes in the Rolls-Royce engine diagram. American Airlines 757's have that Rolls-Royce engine, not a Pratt-Whitney as others. Any other unprocessed initial speculations disingenuously posed as researched conclusions? -Bob
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
Bob, Call me crazy, but in the first film and stills after the pentahit, I neither saw the impact marks of the wings of a commercial jet on the building's facade, nor did I see the impact marks of the hardest things on the jet - the engines. If you see the film of the 2nd jet hitting the south WTC tower, you clearly see the impact marks of the wings and engines in addition to the fuselage. I am sorry but it is the little sloppy details that just make me nuts. I am not looking to start a series of flames over this. I am just saying that I am not convinced by the arguments heretofore. This would be cleared up nicely if all the confiscated film of what happened at the Pentagon were released; but I do not have much hope in that happening. Meanwhile I see no reason for people to be so damned sure of what happened without all of the evidence. Hiding evidence is certainly not the action of a government that is concerned with getting to the truth. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: according to loose change the engine part that was at the scene was too small for that type of plane. Some people just keep regurgitating and recirculating the same lies. The notion that the part was too small is based on initial speculation that it is from the fan stage. As usual, lightweights never ventured beyond that speculation, contenting themselves to adopt speculation as conclusion without every looking at the facts, or perhaps ignoring the facts for pay or attention. The part in question is from the compressor stage, not the fan stage. Wheels in the compressor stage are smaller. There is a Rolls-Royce engine diagram for that model of engine which is only on American Airlines 757's, not others, and it shows that very part. You can see a man standing near the part. You can scale the part to the diagram. It is a perfect match: http://www.earth-citizens.net/pages-en/wr-eng.html Now you know a fact. -Bob Dodds
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
As soon as you explain what happened to the engines and wings, Im on board.-- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Four inches of stone, two layers of brick, for the front wall. Like paper. Around the windows there was a light metal frame designed to hold the windows if fragments from a truck bomb flew against the wall. Again, nothing, no solid structure. The second floor slab represented the first solid structure. An off duty pilot living in an apartment nearby saw the cockpit of the silver AA Boeing 757 peel upward as half of the fuselage went above and half below the floor slab. Then the upward folded part got pulled into the hole as the rest of the fuselage went into mostly open area, encountering a few concrete columns once inside the building. Some of the holes seen in photos were made by heavy equipment from the back side, for rescue workers. You can see a line and instructions spray-painted on the wall around the hole, marking where to run a bulldozer through the wall. Smokescreeners never get specific about what structure was so strong that the plane went through at the Pentagon. I have documented the above construction details here in the past. Four inch stone slab, two layers of brick, that's nothing. Metal frame around the edge of windows, that's nothing. Slide and carom between scattered concrete pillaras once inside, that's nothing. The second floor slab was the only solid structure and it just sliced the fuselage, but the mass of the plane kept on going. Nothing amazing happened at the Pentagon, unlike New York, where a number of amazing things did happen(steel melting, buildings all falling straight down with no time for resistance to collapse--as if demolished). -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: Kris, What I was saying is that Loftus appears to be saying that the plane in its regular configuration behaved like a shaped charge when it hit the pentagon. He is using the concept of a plasma stream to explain how the relatively soft nosed commercial jet could punch through so many interior walls. I do not think it works as an explanation. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd roadsend@ wrote: No, I do not think there was some special charge on plane or otherwise. Peace, K On Sep 17, 2007, at 9:54 PM, mark urban wrote: The concept of a shaped charge is what is being proffered. An inverted cone of metal jacketed high explosive that hits armor creates a molten stream of metal that burns through the armor plate. If Loftus wants to say a commercial jet hitting a building behaves like an RPG7 hitting a humvee, then I would think that we are now seeing the next phase in the 911 cover up. I lump this right in there with Mike Ruppert telling us to forget about 911. geez! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd roadsend@ wrote: Basically, my understanding of what Loftus is talking about is what happens when a large object moving at a high rate of speed hits an immovable object creating high temperatures and thusly disintegration. What form this disintegration took and if this activity created any special effect I do not know. Peace, K On Sep 17, 2007, at 2:09 PM, mark urban wrote: It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell on 911. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that the pentagon plane turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it, plasmic matter is the fourth phase of matter. solid, liquid, gas, plasma. like in the sun. the sun is plasmic matter. he's saying that the plane vaporized into plasma and that's why the damage to the pentagon went so deep, because of the focused energy. the plane vaporized into plasma because that one wall had been armored. he's saying that this is not inconsistent with finding human remains. of course, none of this addresses the question as to whether the plane was hijacked, radio controlled, switched out with a drill, etc. could a missile be vaporized into plasma? according to loftus, the military HAS weapons that do precisely this. he was stating this as proof that the plasmic effect could be possible. heh. to me, its all just begging the question. for instance, why did the plane fly over the pentagon, do a 180, come all the way back around, and hit THAT side? and what about the alleged explosions before the pentagon strike? now theyre talking about security cams. www.wtprn.com 9:15 pm central time Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
Kris, What I was saying is that Loftus appears to be saying that the plane in its regular configuration behaved like a shaped charge when it hit the pentagon. He is using the concept of a plasma stream to explain how the relatively soft nosed commercial jet could punch through so many interior walls. I do not think it works as an explanation. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I do not think there was some special charge on plane or otherwise. Peace, K On Sep 17, 2007, at 9:54 PM, mark urban wrote: The concept of a shaped charge is what is being proffered. An inverted cone of metal jacketed high explosive that hits armor creates a molten stream of metal that burns through the armor plate. If Loftus wants to say a commercial jet hitting a building behaves like an RPG7 hitting a humvee, then I would think that we are now seeing the next phase in the 911 cover up. I lump this right in there with Mike Ruppert telling us to forget about 911. geez! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd roadsend@ wrote: Basically, my understanding of what Loftus is talking about is what happens when a large object moving at a high rate of speed hits an immovable object creating high temperatures and thusly disintegration. What form this disintegration took and if this activity created any special effect I do not know. Peace, K On Sep 17, 2007, at 2:09 PM, mark urban wrote: It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell on 911. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that the pentagon plane turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it, plasmic matter is the fourth phase of matter. solid, liquid, gas, plasma. like in the sun. the sun is plasmic matter. he's saying that the plane vaporized into plasma and that's why the damage to the pentagon went so deep, because of the focused energy. the plane vaporized into plasma because that one wall had been armored. he's saying that this is not inconsistent with finding human remains. of course, none of this addresses the question as to whether the plane was hijacked, radio controlled, switched out with a drill, etc. could a missile be vaporized into plasma? according to loftus, the military HAS weapons that do precisely this. he was stating this as proof that the plasmic effect could be possible. heh. to me, its all just begging the question. for instance, why did the plane fly over the pentagon, do a 180, come all the way back around, and hit THAT side? and what about the alleged explosions before the pentagon strike? now theyre talking about security cams. www.wtprn.com 9:15 pm central time Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
[cia-drugs] [truthabout911] Re: John Judge
Kris, Do you think Fetzer is disinfo? I find it hard to believe the pentahit was accomplished with a commercial jet; however, Judge says he knows people who saw luggage and remains. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Judge is not disinfo, Eastman is. Eastman's disinfo is a brush of truth and lies. Be aware. Peace, K On Sep 15, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Andy McCracken wrote: Good luck with the march. It does make a difference - they get worried when there are angry crowds in the streets. - Original Message - From: seveneasypeaces [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: [truthabout911] Re: John Judge That is what my question was about looking around. John never said a word about 911 details last night. He is quite a historian on Washington insider stuff. He did talk about the need to include 911 truth in all debates. He agrees we've been had. And he has gotten permission to start a museum in DC on hidden news. He has a massive collection. DE was talking about JFK and from what I heard last night from both John Judge and Joan Mellen, the cia killed JFK (the cia doing the dirty work of the elites). This has been my research too for the past 7 years. I was wondering about DE's JFK comment. We now know the plane at the pentagon was a decoy, flying over at the exact time the bomb or missile or drone hit. perfect timing. When John said those things it may have been before we understood that. People saw a plane (it was a decoy). http://www.thepentacon.com I'm off to the march in DC. 4,000 people are supposed to lay down and die at the capitol. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], banoyes2 banoyes2@ wrote: http://www.blackopradio.com/forums/messages.cfm? threadid=5EC10FBC- 123F-ECE3-BC9FB9A95BD4DDEA You should look around a little more Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell on 911. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that the pentagon plane turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it, plasmic matter is the fourth phase of matter. solid, liquid, gas, plasma. like in the sun. the sun is plasmic matter. he's saying that the plane vaporized into plasma and that's why the damage to the pentagon went so deep, because of the focused energy. the plane vaporized into plasma because that one wall had been armored. he's saying that this is not inconsistent with finding human remains. of course, none of this addresses the question as to whether the plane was hijacked, radio controlled, switched out with a drill, etc. could a missile be vaporized into plasma? according to loftus, the military HAS weapons that do precisely this. he was stating this as proof that the plasmic effect could be possible. heh. to me, its all just begging the question. for instance, why did the plane fly over the pentagon, do a 180, come all the way back around, and hit THAT side? and what about the alleged explosions before the pentagon strike? now theyre talking about security cams. www.wtprn.com 9:15 pm central time
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell on 911. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that the pentagon plane turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it, plasmic matter is the fourth phase of matter. solid, liquid, gas, plasma. like in the sun. the sun is plasmic matter. he's saying that the plane vaporized into plasma and that's why the damage to the pentagon went so deep, because of the focused energy. the plane vaporized into plasma because that one wall had been armored. he's saying that this is not inconsistent with finding human remains. of course, none of this addresses the question as to whether the plane was hijacked, radio controlled, switched out with a drill, etc. could a missile be vaporized into plasma? according to loftus, the military HAS weapons that do precisely this. he was stating this as proof that the plasmic effect could be possible. heh. to me, its all just begging the question. for instance, why did the plane fly over the pentagon, do a 180, come all the way back around, and hit THAT side? and what about the alleged explosions before the pentagon strike? now theyre talking about security cams. www.wtprn.com 9:15 pm central time
[cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
The concept of a shaped charge is what is being proffered. An inverted cone of metal jacketed high explosive that hits armor creates a molten stream of metal that burns through the armor plate. If Loftus wants to say a commercial jet hitting a building behaves like an RPG7 hitting a humvee, then I would think that we are now seeing the next phase in the 911 cover up. I lump this right in there with Mike Ruppert telling us to forget about 911. geez! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, my understanding of what Loftus is talking about is what happens when a large object moving at a high rate of speed hits an immovable object creating high temperatures and thusly disintegration. What form this disintegration took and if this activity created any special effect I do not know. Peace, K On Sep 17, 2007, at 2:09 PM, mark urban wrote: It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell on 911. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that the pentagon plane turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it, plasmic matter is the fourth phase of matter. solid, liquid, gas, plasma. like in the sun. the sun is plasmic matter. he's saying that the plane vaporized into plasma and that's why the damage to the pentagon went so deep, because of the focused energy. the plane vaporized into plasma because that one wall had been armored. he's saying that this is not inconsistent with finding human remains. of course, none of this addresses the question as to whether the plane was hijacked, radio controlled, switched out with a drill, etc. could a missile be vaporized into plasma? according to loftus, the military HAS weapons that do precisely this. he was stating this as proof that the plasmic effect could be possible. heh. to me, its all just begging the question. for instance, why did the plane fly over the pentagon, do a 180, come all the way back around, and hit THAT side? and what about the alleged explosions before the pentagon strike? now theyre talking about security cams. www.wtprn.com 9:15 pm central time Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
[cia-drugs] [truthabout911] Re: John Judge
The problem as I see it is that Fetzer and Morgan Reynolds are heading down the trail that leads to Webfairy land. Fetzer asserts that something much more powerful than jets, jet fuel and even thermite has to be the cause of the towers collapsing at greater than freefall speeds. The no plane theory booster without equal is Nico Haupt, who, if you have ever had the pleasure to meet him, is very high strung and quickly assumes that anybody who does not agree with him is a CIA plant. You can imagine my chagrin when Fetzer starts talking about the no plane theory, particle weapons, Satellite based beam weapons and mininukes. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether Fetzer is or no, I do not know. But what he says, yes. Heavy psyops going on. Definite False memes are 1. No Plane at Pentagon, 2. No Planes in NY, 3. Jews/Israel did it all. I am sure there were radio controls, you don't leave such to chance, faith or orders. Why create a fake with turns into the just reinforced wall? Arguing details is a big reason. While the perps continue on with their shadow play. Peace, K On Sep 17, 2007, at 1:59 PM, mark urban wrote: Kris, Do you think Fetzer is disinfo? I find it hard to believe the pentahit was accomplished with a commercial jet; however, Judge says he knows people who saw luggage and remains. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd roadsend@ wrote: John Judge is not disinfo, Eastman is. Eastman's disinfo is a brush of truth and lies. Be aware. Peace, K On Sep 15, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Andy McCracken wrote: Good luck with the march. It does make a difference - they get worried when there are angry crowds in the streets. - Original Message - From: seveneasypeaces seveneasypeaces@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: [truthabout911] Re: John Judge That is what my question was about looking around. John never said a word about 911 details last night. He is quite a historian on Washington insider stuff. He did talk about the need to include 911 truth in all debates. He agrees we've been had. And he has gotten permission to start a museum in DC on hidden news. He has a massive collection. DE was talking about JFK and from what I heard last night from both John Judge and Joan Mellen, the cia killed JFK (the cia doing the dirty work of the elites). This has been my research too for the past 7 years. I was wondering about DE's JFK comment. We now know the plane at the pentagon was a decoy, flying over at the exact time the bomb or missile or drone hit. perfect timing. When John said those things it may have been before we understood that. People saw a plane (it was a decoy). http://www.thepentacon.com I'm off to the march in DC. 4,000 people are supposed to lay down and die at the capitol. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], banoyes2 banoyes2@ wrote: http://www.blackopradio.com/forums/messages.cfm? threadid=5EC10FBC- 123F-ECE3-BC9FB9A95BD4DDEA You should look around a little more Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
[cia-drugs] Oh my God, Becky, Greenspan says Iraq war is for oil!!!
Alan Greenspan claims Iraq war was really for oilGraham Paterson AMERICA's elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil. In his long-awaited memoir, to be published tomorrow, Greenspan, a Republican whose 18-year tenure as head of the US Federal Reserve was widely admired, will also deliver a stinging critique of President George W Bush's economic policies. However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil, he says. Greenspan, 81, is understood to believe that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the security of oil supplies in the Middle East. Related Links * Fed veteran Greenspan lambasts George W Bush on economy http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2461\ 415.ece * Power, not oil, Mr Greenspan http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article2461241\ .ece Britain and America have always insisted the war had nothing to do with oil. Bush said the aim was to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction and end Saddam's support for terrorism.
[cia-drugs] post a message to NYC police commissioner re: alex jones
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[cia-drugs] Bin Laden Video is Fake
Mossad Agent Pearlman Behind New Bin Laden Video Prisonplanet http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html .com Sunday September 9, 2007 Adam Pearlman, the Jewish Mossad agent http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/300507phonytape.htm who once wrote stinging essays condemning Muslims as bloodthirsty terrorists, has been singled out as the creator of the suspicious new Osama Bin Laden video. From the London Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=APR2GJZQHAYKXQFIQ\ MFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/09/09/wladen109.xml : A Californian heavy metal fan, who converted to Islam and became the first American to be charged with treason in half a century, has been fingered as the author of Osama bin Laden's latest video lecture - which left the terror chief sounding like an anti-globalisation protester. The al-Qaeda leader's first video message for three years featured a bizarre rant against America, with references to global warming, insane taxes, the US mortgage market meltdown and rising interest rates. American spy chiefs were quick to name Adam Gadahn, the head of al-Qaeda's English language media operations, as the author of large sections of bin Laden's broadcast. (Article continues below) Last October, the 28-year-old loner became the first American charged with treason since 1952, for appearing in a succession of al-Qaeda videos under the guise of Azzam The American, in which he condemned globalisation and made American cultural references. He was charged in his absence, as he is thought to be near to bin Laden, almost certainly in the tribal areas of Pakistan. Gadahn, who as teenager reviewed albums for a metal music magazine, moved to Pakistan in 1998 and became an associate of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the architect of the 9/11 attacks. In 2004, the FBI named him as one of seven al-Qaeda operatives planning attacks in the US. The bin Laden video, timed to coincide with the sixth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, shows the terror chief, his beard dyed black, condemning the unjust Iraq war and calling on Americans to embrace Islam. What surprised analysts was his use of the language of Left-wing protesters, which showed detailed knowledge of the economic travails of middle America. Bin Laden referred to the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgage and blamed global warming and its woes on emissions of the factories the major corporations. A former senior US intelligence official said: It has Adam Gadahn written all over it. Mike Baker, a former CIA covert operations officer, said the tape left bin Laden with the title of biggest gas bag in the terrorist world. CIA officials said voice analysis of the tape proved it was definitely bin Laden. References to the election of Nicolas Sarkozy as French president, Gordon Brown's appointment as prime minister and the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing on August 6 led them to conclude it was filmed as recently as four weeks ago. President Bush used the release of the tape to reinforce his view that Iraq is the central front in the war on terror. He said: I found it interesting that on the tape Iraq was mentioned, which is a reminder that Iraq is a part of this war against extremists. If al-Qaeda bothers to mention Iraq, it is because they want to achieve their objectives in Iraq, which is to drive us out and to develop a safe haven. The tape contained no direct threats, but Michael Hayden, the CIA director, gave a speech on Friday, after he was briefed on its contents, in which he said: Al-Qaeda is focusing on targets that would produce mass casualties, dramatic destruction, and significant economic aftershocks. American officials said the US government had obtained a copy of the video even though it had not been posted on Islamist websites - sparking speculation that US intelligence has developed an informant or cracked al-Qaeda's cyber security. Mohamed el-Sayed, of the Ahram Centre for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo, said bin Laden's words are proof the West cannot appease al-Qaeda by withdrawing from Iraq. The message is much more threatening this time, he said. It uses iconic language that suggests: 'The only way to get peace is to convert to Islam.' He's in a state of constant, unending war until he Islamises the world. But other analysts said that the lack of specific threats is evidence that bin Laden cannot direct specific operations from his base in the tribal areas of Pakistan. Peter Bergen, a US journalist who has interviewed bin Laden, said producing the video was a risk, as were previous audio tapes. Every time he releases tapes he lays himself open to detection, he said. They are taken out by couriers from the tribal areas in Pakistan. If you can trace the train of custody of these tapes you can find bin Laden. He's keenly aware of that. Latest Bin Laden Video Is a Forgery: All References to Current Events Are Made During
[cia-drugs] for sean
Show #338 Original airdate: Sept 6, 2007 Guest: Antonia Juhasz Topic: Iraqi Oil Audio Part One http://www.blackopradio.com/black338.ram * Antonia Juhasz webpage http://www.bushagenda.net/article.php?id=369 * Author of The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-0060846879-0 * Antonia's websites are http://www.thebushagenda.net/ and http://priceofoil.org/ * Iraq parliament is resisting the Iraqi Oil Law (nicknamed the Iraq Seperation Bill)that Bush is insisting on * Iraq is resisting because the law would open 2/3 of Iraqi oil to outside entities * The fear is that Iraq would split into 3 seperate regimes, thereby deviding the country forever * Many oil companies are standing in line to grab the oil of Iraq should this law pass... a rape of Iraqi resources * 50% of mined Iraqi oil at present goes to the USA. The rest is devided among European countries * The war is about more than oil. It's about Corporate Imperial control of the world economy * If the law passes, the resources in Iraq would be mopped up for a full 30 years with absolutely no benefit for Iraqis * Not one nickle or job would be legislated for Iraqi benefit... A complete rip off for the benefit of international corporatists * Pressure is needed now to pressure governments into refusing this unjust law
[cia-drugs] gov't psych torture manual available online
Psychological torture manual available online http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2007/09/psychological_torture_m\ anual_a.php Category: Books http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/books/ Psychology http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/psychology/ Posted on: September 7, 2007 7:10 AM, by Mo The Manipulation of Human Behavior, a manual for psychological torture techniques written by leading psychologists and psychiatrists, is now available online. Published by John Wiley Sons in 1961, the 323-page book was edited by Albert D. Biderman of the Bureau of Social Science Research and Herbert Zimmer, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Georgia, and funded by the U.S. government. The editors' introduction reads: This book represents a critical examination of some of the conjectures about the application of scientific knowledge to the manipulation of human behavior. The problem is explored within a particular frame of reference: the interrogation of an unwilling subject. A number of scientific areas have figured prominently in speculations regardirig the application of science to the manipulation of behavior in interrogation (69). For this work, scientists who had done research in each of these areas were asked to review the state of relevant knowledge in their fields, to consider whether and how it might be applied by interrogators, and to evaluate the recourse available to highly motivated persons for resisting the attempted influence. Their reports constitute the body of this book. Each of the 7 chapters is a comprehensive review of the literature available at the time regarding a torture technique. Most of the literature reviewed came from government-funded studies. * 1. The Physiological State of the Interrogation Subject as it Affects Brain Function, by Lawrence E. Hinkle, Jr. * 2. The Effects of Reduced Environmental Stimulation on Human Behavior: A Review, by Philip E. Kubzansky. * 3. The Use of Drugs in Interrogation, by Louis A. Gottschalk. * 4. Physiological Responses as a Means of Evaluating Information, by R. C. Davis. * 5. The Potential Uses of Hypnosis in Interrogation, by Martin T. Orne. * 6. The Experimental Investigation of Interpersonal Influence, by Robert R. Blake and Jane S. Mouton. * 7. Countermanipulation through Malingering, by Malcolm L. Meltzer. Download The Manipulation of Human Behavior here http://www.4shared.com/file/23563708/e49bcadf/mohb.html .
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Iraq's OIL Has Nothing to Do With It
Oh! my God! // Researcher Jim Vallette, who stumbled across the order in the Federal Register, says it unilaterally declares Iraqi oil to be the unassailable province of U.S. corporations ... In other words, if ExxonMobil or ChevronTexaco touch Iraqi oil, it will be immune from legal proceedings in the United States. Somebody call Sean's proctologist, 'cause this is gonna hurt! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 4, 2007 10:19:37 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Iraq's OIL Has Nothing to Do With It The major oil companies met at the Iraq Oil, Gas, Petrochemical Electricity Summit held in Dubai from September 2-4, 2007, to discuss the future of Iraq's abundant energy resources. President Bush left Washington in secrecy... Avoiding Baghdad itself, Air Force One arrived in Iraq about 3:45 p.m. local time on September 3rd. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601087sid=aIi7x9fE4Ri0refer=home Iraq Oil: The Vultures are Waiting by Sarah Meyer 03 September 2007 http://www.brusselstribunal.org/Meyer/Oil.htm CIA March 2003 oil map of Iraq The oil majors met at the Iraq Oil, Gas, Petrochemical Electricity Summit from 2 4 September 2007 in Dubai to discuss the future of Iraq's abundant energy resources. Attending were US puppets, described as some of the most important figures from Iraq's energy sector. Also attending were the waiting vultures, BP, Exxon, ConocoPhillips, Chevron, Lukoil, Statoil, Marathon Oil, Total, Shell, Kuwait National Petroleum, Annadarko, Schlumberger, ABB, ONGC, General Electric, Cummins Power, Mitsui, Aegis, ArmorGroup, Janussian, Control Risks Group, Unity, Hart, Olive Security, GardaWorld and Triple Canopy. The history of the Iraq Oil law is sordid. An outstanding article by A.K. Gupta, The Great Iraq Heist, outlines the US imperial ownership of Iraq via Bush Executive orders, through his Arch- Deacon-of Hades, Paul Bremer. Paul Bremer (right) with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in Baghdad. PHOTO: Jason Reed / AP-Pool / AP Since March 2003, a series of executive orders by Bush, UN documents, and regulations and orders issued by Iraqi Proconsol Paul Bremer have put the U.S. in absolute control of the state of Iraq, its oil industry and monies, all while lifting barriers to repatriating profits . On the same day UN resolution 1483 passed, May 22, Bush signed Executive Order 13303 granting blanket immunity to any U.S. corporation dealing with Iraqi oil through 2007 . Researcher Jim Vallette, who stumbled across the order in the Federal Register, says it unilaterally declares Iraqi oil to be the unassailable province of U.S. corporations ... In other words, if ExxonMobil or ChevronTexaco touch Iraqi oil, it will be immune from legal proceedings in the United States. So in a little more than two months the Bush administration staked claim to and received UN approval to every significant asset and resource Iraq has in the world, established sole power over how to spend Iraq's oil money, and indemnifies its corporate cronies from liability. One can thus see the urgency emanating from the White House concerning Benchmarks resulting in `troop surge,' an Allawi (?) coup, and various reports on the `situation in Iraq, all differing but the main thrust being failure. Index Research started documenting these developments, first in March 2006, in PNAC: Rebuilding America's Defenses - A Biopsy on Imperialism; Part II: Special Interests - The Persian Gulf (07.03.06) . This included the vitally important Platform document by Greg Muttitt, Crude Designs. From this period on, mainstream media had no excuse to represent the sharing Iraq oil agreement without also demonstrating that Iraq actually had NO `share' in her own oil. However, this omission is exactly what happened - and frequently continues to happen. Index Research continued to document the daily Iraq oil crisis as the situation became more acute in The Iraq Oil Crunch: Index Timeline , which tracks the drama through 12 May 2007. The Iraqi parliament is said to be meeting again, after a month's recess, on Tuesday. Appendix ONE follows the development of the oil crisis from 12 May until the present moment, with oil companies and the US government waiting for the kill. This desperate country, destroyed by the US government with the help of the coalition of the willing deserves its own oil. Now. Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Iraq's OIL Has Nothing to Do With It
Oh! my God! // Researcher Jim Vallette, who stumbled across the order in the Federal Register, says it unilaterally declares Iraqi oil to be the unassailable province of U.S. corporations ... In other words, if ExxonMobil or ChevronTexaco touch Iraqi oil, it will be immune from legal proceedings in the United States. Somebody call Sean's proctologist, 'cause this is gonna hurt! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 4, 2007 10:19:37 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Iraq's OIL Has Nothing to Do With It The major oil companies met at the Iraq Oil, Gas, Petrochemical Electricity Summit held in Dubai from September 2-4, 2007, to discuss the future of Iraq's abundant energy resources. President Bush left Washington in secrecy... Avoiding Baghdad itself, Air Force One arrived in Iraq about 3:45 p.m. local time on September 3rd. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601087sid=aIi7x9fE4Ri0refer=home Iraq Oil: The Vultures are Waiting by Sarah Meyer 03 September 2007 http://www.brusselstribunal.org/Meyer/Oil.htm CIA March 2003 oil map of Iraq The oil majors met at the Iraq Oil, Gas, Petrochemical Electricity Summit from 2 4 September 2007 in Dubai to discuss the future of Iraq's abundant energy resources. Attending were US puppets, described as some of the most important figures from Iraq's energy sector. Also attending were the waiting vultures, BP, Exxon, ConocoPhillips, Chevron, Lukoil, Statoil, Marathon Oil, Total, Shell, Kuwait National Petroleum, Annadarko, Schlumberger, ABB, ONGC, General Electric, Cummins Power, Mitsui, Aegis, ArmorGroup, Janussian, Control Risks Group, Unity, Hart, Olive Security, GardaWorld and Triple Canopy. The history of the Iraq Oil law is sordid. An outstanding article by A.K. Gupta, The Great Iraq Heist, outlines the US imperial ownership of Iraq via Bush Executive orders, through his Arch- Deacon-of Hades, Paul Bremer. Paul Bremer (right) with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in Baghdad. PHOTO: Jason Reed / AP-Pool / AP Since March 2003, a series of executive orders by Bush, UN documents, and regulations and orders issued by Iraqi Proconsol Paul Bremer have put the U.S. in absolute control of the state of Iraq, its oil industry and monies, all while lifting barriers to repatriating profits . On the same day UN resolution 1483 passed, May 22, Bush signed Executive Order 13303 granting blanket immunity to any U.S. corporation dealing with Iraqi oil through 2007 . Researcher Jim Vallette, who stumbled across the order in the Federal Register, says it unilaterally declares Iraqi oil to be the unassailable province of U.S. corporations ... In other words, if ExxonMobil or ChevronTexaco touch Iraqi oil, it will be immune from legal proceedings in the United States. So in a little more than two months the Bush administration staked claim to and received UN approval to every significant asset and resource Iraq has in the world, established sole power over how to spend Iraq's oil money, and indemnifies its corporate cronies from liability. One can thus see the urgency emanating from the White House concerning Benchmarks resulting in `troop surge,' an Allawi (?) coup, and various reports on the `situation in Iraq, all differing but the main thrust being failure. Index Research started documenting these developments, first in March 2006, in PNAC: Rebuilding America's Defenses - A Biopsy on Imperialism; Part II: Special Interests - The Persian Gulf (07.03.06) . This included the vitally important Platform document by Greg Muttitt, Crude Designs. From this period on, mainstream media had no excuse to represent the sharing Iraq oil agreement without also demonstrating that Iraq actually had NO `share' in her own oil. However, this omission is exactly what happened - and frequently continues to happen. Index Research continued to document the daily Iraq oil crisis as the situation became more acute in The Iraq Oil Crunch: Index Timeline , which tracks the drama through 12 May 2007. The Iraqi parliament is said to be meeting again, after a month's recess, on Tuesday. Appendix ONE follows the development of the oil crisis from 12 May until the present moment, with oil companies and the US government waiting for the kill. This desperate country, destroyed by the US government with the help of the coalition of the willing deserves its own oil. Now. Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
[cia-drugs] mo' fo' sean
Sean wrote: + Mark Urban and his fellow cia-druggies have still been unable to explain how American oil companies are going to profitably extract oil from a region of the world in which the natives, thanks to Israel and the neoconservatives, view them as their most dangerous and hated enemies. Russia, China, India and Europe are ready to pounce on the enormous opportunity that that the neocons have provided them. + Ok, Mr. Sean. let me try to break this down for you: If Iraq is a giant shit storm like Lebanon, then little or nothing is going to happen. The killing and infighting will just wear away the infrastructure. Iraq will be left with a puppet government and those many firebases and that huge embassy (almost the size of the vatican) in Baghdad. As long as nobody can do much with Iraq's oil because of the war and turmoil, then the oil will not get to market and there will be less supply. By every kind of primitive economics I know that means the supply line shifts in such a way as to intersect the price line at a higher intersecting point. Therefore, prices are higher and will stay higher. What other benefits are there? Well with all that military hardware in the region, do you think the oil producing neighbors are going to piss on uncle sam's leg? Do you think they'll do nasty little things like stop using petrodollars?Do you think they'll want some of what Iraq got? Remember the Plot from GOLDFINGER? The plan was not to steal the gold in Fort Knox, just make it radioactive and unavailable. Then Aurich Goldfinger's supply of gold would become much more valuable. You see, my dear lil' buddy Sean, sometimes your itty bitty brain just has to work a little bit harder to understand the big picture.
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [ctrl] The Amero is real - have a look
I posted the ameros images a while back. I think the actual coins shown are a hoax. They are not official ameros.--- In cia- [EMAIL PROTECTED], RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Elvo Him [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 4, 2007 11:44:57 AM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] apfn- [EMAIL PROTECTED], armageddon- [EMAIL PROTECTED] armageddon-or- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conspiracy- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ctrl] The Amero is real - have a look Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TV NETWORK CNBC CONFIRMS: U.S. DOLLAR, CANADIAN DOLLAR AND MEXICAN PESO TO BE REPLACED BY THE AMERO 'What prompted my interest in the issue was money: I was sent professional images of actual Amero coins by someone in the US Treasury. The person included a note saying they like my radio show and are frightened by what's been going on in secret within our government. This Treasury Department person was outraged that our country was beginning to coin money as part of a merger that would do away with our country, via a merger the American public knew nothing about!' Read more Canadian television discusses the Amero and the North American Union - you know the currency and superstate that are just inventions of 'conspiracy theorists' like David Icke, who has been warning of this very agenda for more than a decade Click here to watch !!! Breaking News !!! THE AMERO IS REAL; I HAVE ONE TO PROVE IT! UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO TO BE MERGED INTO SINGLE NEW ENTITY NAMED NORTH AMERICAN UNION! By: Hal Turner, High profile racist http://www.halturnershow.com/AmeroCoinArrives.html Three weeks ago, I published a brief snippet on the front page of my web site reporting the governments of the US Canada and Mexico are conspiring in secret to merge the three nations into a new entity called the North American Union. There has been much talk of this on various internet blogs for over a year. Most of those blogs have been smeared as conspiracy theorists and have been largely ignored by the main stream. What prompted my interest in the issue was money: I was sent professional images of actual AMERO coins by someone in the US Treasury! The person included a note saying they like my radio show and are frightened by what's been going on in secret within our government. This Treasury Department person was outraged that our country was beginning to coin money as part of a merger that would do away with our country, via a merger the American public knew nothing about! When I got the professional images of the AMERO coin, I was finally intrigued enough to make mention of it on my web site. My site has gotten over 20 Million visits in the last couple years and is becoming more popular because of the brutal honesty and timely delivery of news that folks don't find elsewhere. This story about AMERO coins would fit my niche of breaking news, so I ran a snippet of a story. As part of my report, I included the professional images sent to me by the Treasury person. They appear below: I also mentioned that very pricey Collector Proofs of the coins were also being Minted in Silver and Gold, and I posted an image of one such Silver Proof, shown below: The story went on to say that the US Government has intentionally overspent itself for the purpose of irreversibly Bankrupting the country. The idea is that they will drive the country into economic failure, then when millions of Americans are panicking at the prospect, offer them a solution of merging the three countries as the only possible way to avoid losing everything. They will force Canada into the merger by telling them the US currency they hold and rely upon will be worthless and the only way Canada can even hope to salvage any of the funds is to join the NAU. They will sell it to the Mexican people by saying it will instantly improve their buying-power and quality of life. In reality, the value of the US and Canadian dollars will be significantly reduced to counter the worthless peso being absorbed. People in the US and Canada will suffer great financial loss while Mexicans will see significant gain. In the meantime, the financial elite and the politicians they own will make out like bandits! That's the reason politicians are doing this: to get rich for themselves and their financial elite pals. The folks in power within government and their buddies in Banking and finance know that in any currency switch, some lose big
[cia-drugs] Re: [political-research] If the racists on the web didn't exist, groups like PRA [Political Research Associate] would have to invent them.
What is Sean's point? The Neocons/Israel runs the world and everybody else just gets sloppy seconds? Is that it? I guess duplicity and simulation just bounce off Sean like bullets off of superman. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/05/338820.shtml Ford Foundation funds Berlet www.fordfound.org/grants_db/view_grant_detail.cfm?grant_id=178283 -- Organization: Political Research Associates Purpose: To study the college and university campus leadership and outreach programs of major national organizations and social movements and their relationship to political environment on campuses Location: SOMERVILLE, MA Program: Peace and Social Justice Unit: Governance and Civil Society Subject: Civil Society Amount: $ 175, 000 Year: 2002 -- 'Political Research Associates - a liberal / progressive / left non- profit that claims that Bush is innocent of complicity in 9/11' PRA's page denouncing conspiracies about 9-11: www.publiceye.org/conspire/conspiracism-911.html This page insinuates that the 9/11skeptics movement largely consists of anti-semites, far-right fanatics and holocaust denial people. Yes, those sites do exist, but one could make a very good case that several of them are false flag operations to provide rhetorical ammunition to attack the idea that the Bush regime allowed 9/11 or gave it technical assistance to ensure it succeeded. PRA has resisted numerous opportunities to discuss the credible evidence that 9/11 was not a surprise attack, refusing to discuss: * prior warnings by allied governments * warnings to political, military and corporate officials to get out of the way * the NORAD wargames that confused the Air Force response * the CIA / NRO wargames on 9/11 * the motivations of Peak Oil and Homeland Security * anthrax attacks on the Democrats and passage of the Patriot Act If the racists on the web didn't exist, groups like PRA would have to invent them. --- On Sep 3, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Sean McBride wrote: Just as I thought: no oil lobbyists are agitating for an American war against Iran; such a policy is neither in the interests of the American oil industry nor of Americans and American strategic interests as a whole. A substantial majority of Americans have turned against the Iraq War and think it was an enormous mistake. Foreign policy realists in the American power elite have opposed the Iraq War all along, and oppose expanding the Iraq War to Iran. The fingerprints of neoconservatives and the Israel lobby are all over these failed policies, and now they are scared to death that they are going to be justly held responsible for the damage they have inflicted on Americans. That's my read. :) I also predict a major blow-up between the traditional American power elite and the neocons/Israel lobby over these issues. Good theories enable accurate predictions -- we shall see. Foreign occupations are incompatible with successful business operations in foreign lands -- this is a reliable rule of thumb in contemporary politics, I think. The security costs are much too high. We will have to agree to disagree about the thinking in the innermost councils of the American foreign policy establishment. Please do continue to post any more solid evidence you can find to support your position.
[political-research] Re: [cia-drugs] for sean mcbride a blast from the past
Bullshit, VMANN, $40 billion is some serious goddamned kwon, even inflation adjusted. You are sophisticated enough to understand that although big oil might say they do not endorse war, it is war that is the means by which oil producing countries that do not want to play ball are brought to heel. If a business deal can't be worked out then the Jackals are let loose. remember the threat of a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs for the taliban in afghanistan regarding the pipeline? who the fuck was going to drop the bombs? Joseph Hazelton? NO!! Uncle SAM --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I must ask Sean if Exxon's 40 billion dollar profit in a single quarter is evidence of the US government having failed the oil industry with its imperialistic middle east ambitions. VMANN: well, to be fair, they are printing a lot of those petrodollars out of nothing, if you'll recall. 40 bill aint what it used to be. of course, none of this addresses the actual question at hand. i think sean/chip makes a good argument against big oil endorsement of the war. vigilius haufnien
[political-research] Re: [cia-drugs] for sean mcbride a blast from the past
If you go back tom my first Blast from the past post, you will see that in the early 80's the oil companies through the US government were trying to have saddam build a pipeline through Iraq. He wanted to pay half of what the big boys wanted to charge, and he stalled the project. you can fill in the blanks by reading the the article i referred to in the first blast from the past posting. that was afghanistan. might even have been why they did 911. but then that got hijacked. even brzezinski was pissed off about it being hijacked into iraq. i couldnt find any articles about big oil supporting attack iraq. can you? - Original Message - From: mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:44 AM Subject: [political-research] Re: [cia-drugs] for sean mcbride a blast from the past Bullshit, VMANN, $40 billion is some serious goddamned kwon, even inflation adjusted. You are sophisticated enough to understand that although big oil might say they do not endorse war, it is war that is the means by which oil producing countries that do not want to play ball are brought to heel. If a business deal can't be worked out then the Jackals are let loose. remember the threat of a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs for the taliban in afghanistan regarding the pipeline? who the fuck was going to drop the bombs? Joseph Hazelton? NO!! Uncle SAM --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: Again, I must ask Sean if Exxon's 40 billion dollar profit in a single quarter is evidence of the US government having failed the oil industry with its imperialistic middle east ambitions. VMANN: well, to be fair, they are printing a lot of those petrodollars out of nothing, if you'll recall. 40 bill aint what it used to be. of course, none of this addresses the actual question at hand. i think sean/chip makes a good argument against big oil endorsement of the war. vigilius haufnien Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
[cia-drugs] [political-research] Re: Dick Eastman Apologizes for His Antisemitism
A ruse will lure the US population to think that changing to the amero will stabilize the economy. a RUSE!
[cia-drugs] [political-research] Re: Dick Eastman Apologizes for His Antisemitism
What the fuck is there to discuss? Oil is at $70 per barrel, gas is over $3 a gallon. Exxon made 40 billion in profit in one quarter, and Sean Mcbride wants me do educate him about role of the oil industry in middle eastern affairs. The reason I do not respond is because discerning people are able to smell burnt hair when their heads are on fire; they do not need a position paper to figure shit out. SEAN/CHIP US imperial policy is to prop up the dollar by threatening to destroy nations who do not use petro dollars to buy and sell oil. Perpetual war in the middle east is a price support system - do you understand that??? The Neocon agenda dovetails nicely with the oil industry agenda. Israel has its own goals, but it benefits from the US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan. The US is going bankrupt. At some point the elites will have sucked it dry and the chumps must be left holding the flaccid bag. All the pensioners and entitlements people have to be shucked. This will be accomplished by default and a switch to a new NAU currency called the Amero. Still with me, Sean? jeez! There is no denying that you are --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have no substance you are not a real person. Sean McBride is the Interent handle of Chip Berelt. I am a real person, you are not . Case closed. Peace, Kris Millegan On Aug 29, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Sean McBride wrote: Two theories regarding Millegan: 1. He is literally brain-damaged and demented from the overuse of psychedelic drugs and has lapsed into paranoid schizophrenia. 2. He is himself an op of some kind who is spreading false information with a malicious motive. To refresh the memory of people here: Millegan has now had many months to collect an easy $10,000 if he really believes his false charge. He is afraid to reach out for the money and obviously doesn't believe his own nonsense. Observation: Millegan hasn't engaged with me on the substance of my many hundreds of posts for a long time. None of the cia-drugs crowd (what remains of it) is capable of pursuing serious discussions on deep politics. I just offered Mark Urban an opportunity to develop the issue of the role of the oil industry in the Iraq War -- nada in response. He misrepresented my views on the subject, I responded, end of debate. This is how it always goes with the cia-druggers -- they are easily overwhelmed by reality. Regarding authorship attribution: this is an interesting subject, and one which I know a fair amount about. When comparing two bodies of text by two authors, one systematically looks for common words, phrases, sources, interests and points of view, and tallies up the hits. One also tallies up all the instances in which Author A uses terms and expressions that Author B never uses and vice- versa. Anyone with the slightest ability to read texts intelligently would instantly grasp how radically disjunct my writings are from Berlet's. LeaNder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazing, but probably only a sign for the average level of depth of cia-drugs analysis. To the witch-hunt part of me, the anti-fascist or anti-racist, that no doubt mirrors his enemies at times, evidence in Eastman's missive still suggests topics he seems unable to fathom. e.g. the guilt of white men. ... As far as the rather boring Chip/Sean topic is concerned: I don't see a stylistic connection between Sean and Chip. And I somehow doubt Chip could be as present netwise as Sean is or was on cia-drugs and political-research considering his time schedule. And yes his Reader - did (could) he devote time to feed it - would no doubt have a much more narrow angle. I would be really pleased if the supposed list-take-over that Kris keeps under lock, so no one can study it, would finally be opened. Or is it? In a way Kris is showing the same features as the people he pretends to fight: Repeat a wrong message long enough and people will believe it, put differently: fish for the lazy ones, the ones that do not like to use their brain functions to penetrated the fog of NOW. As far as Mark Urban is concerned, it feels a bit sad he has jumped on the boat of the lazy thinkers. But I haven't paid much attention on cia-drugs for years now. Concerning Sean I seem to be enamored with a specific profile that would make much more sense. -jo --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean McBride smcbride2@ wrote: For the record: it's still the case that I've never met with or communicated with Chip Berlet, nor have I barely thought of him since the last time this subject came up. I just did a quick search on Berlet and discovered that he now has a blog here: http://chipberlet.blogspot.com/
[cia-drugs] for sean mcbride a blast from the past
in there. Then it became 1990, and Saddam Hussein accused Kuwait of being in cahoots with the United States in influencing oil prices, which Saddam claimed was a threat to Iraq's national security, and with that pretext he invaded Kuwait. Since then, the U.S. has seen oil contracts go to other countries like France, Russia and China. These are multi-billion dollar contacts. Beyond that the landscape hasn't really changed, in terms of what weapons and what tactics he has used to stay in power. But what has changed in the intervening 12 or 15 years, has been this lucre being parceled out to other interests. GNN: And these guys got back into power. Do you think there's a personal feeling of resentment that these guys spent the good part of the early 80's trying to do a deal that never happened? Jim Vallette: They keep calling him a wily dictator that can concoct these wild schemes greater than anything the U.S. could concoct against him, so maybe that reflects some sort of psychological state remnant of their dealings in the 80's. In the 90's, a lot of these guys were in think tanks and in business concocting the current strategy against Iraq. In a lot of their papers, and in their testimonies before Congress up until last year, they were justifying their attack on Iraq in terms of oil. As recently as last August when Dick Cheney spoke to the Veterans of Foreign Wars and kind of launched this whole initiative, they raised the specter of Saddam holding weapons of mass destruction and holding oil hostage from the global community. Since August of last year, the Bush/Cheney Administration has completely eliminated the word oil from their dictionary. GNN: What has been the response to your report? Any contact with the Times or the Post? Jim Vallette: There is always hope. The alternative media is the best hope for the truth, especially in times of war. We'll see what happens. There is already talk in mainstream media about who will get the spoils of war, so maybe this will filter into that. In some ways I wish I had found these documents earlier. It's kind of late. GNN: Well, this information is extremely important to understand the secret history of how the U.S. and Iraq have been dealing with each other and to see through the hypocrisy of the weapons of mass destruction rhetoric. And I applaud you for digging this out. Read the entire Crude Vision report here (PDF). Additional documents: 07/20/84: Memo from Bechtel to energy ministries of Iraq and Jordan 07/26/84: Internal memo, Bechtel 10/15/84: Correspondence between Bechtel and Placke (State Dept.) 10/15/84: Notes from the first Rappaport/Bechtel meeting 01/07/85: Internal memo, Bechtel 01/23/85: Internal memo, Bechtel 02/08/85: Internal memo, Bechtel 05/03/85: Internal memo, Bechtel 05/03/85: Letter from law firm to Bechtel 06/14/85: Letter from law firm to Bechtel 07/11/85: Letter from William Clark to E. Robert Wallach 08/01/85: Internal memo, Bechtel 09/25/85: Letter from Shimon Peres to Edwin Meese 01/30/86: Internal memo, Bechtel 02/07/86: Internal memo, Bechtel National Archives documents can be found on the National Security Archive web site. You can also find video of Donald Rumsfeld's December 1983 meeting with Saddam Hussein. Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:40 am Show Message Option -- -- View Source Use Fixed Width Font Unwrap Lines -- -- mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] mcurb Offline Send Email
[cia-drugs] Re: [political-research] Dick Eastman Apologizes for His Antisemitism
Kris, Remember when Sean/Chip would not admit that the war in Iraq was about OIL? Are you familiar with Nico Haupt. I saw him at Fetzer's 911 book rollout event back in April 2007 at VOX POP in Brooklyn NY with Sander Hicks. Let's just put it like this: Nico is wrapped a bit too tight. He was gaunt and chain smoking cigarettes and claiming everybody was disinfo and CIA in a highly precise german accent. He has aligned himself with Webfairy and believes the planes crashing into WTC were not real, not possible. Fetzer believes that in addition to the planes and explosives, there must have been something like scalar weapons or mininukes used because the towers collapsed too fast. Nico thinks Fetzer is making progress in having made this accomodation but is still far off the mark. I told Fetzer that the minute you bring in the miraculous and magical stuff into the equation, you turn people off - better to just state what could not be a sufficient cause and leave it at that. 9/11/07 should be an interesting day in NYC. Whast do you think Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani will be doing? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chip, you really are quite the gag-puller. Peace, Kris Millegan On Aug 28, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Sean McBride wrote: I'm not sure this post contributes to inter-ethnic amity, but Eastman has rather invited it. Generally, if you kick other ethnic or religious groups hard in sensitive areas, they will kick back. It's all purely Pavlovian. By the way, I've never allowed Dick Eastman to post here because of this problem he has. I think he's a sincere truth seeker with some original insights about deep politics, but injecting any form of bigotry into these discussions makes it impossible to proceed rationally. He needs to rework his world model from the ground up. tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's still an asshat, no doubt still an anti-Semitic moron, and probably has a closet full of porn. Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My comment: Dick Eastman deserves some credit for acknowledging and apologizing for the antisemitism which disfigures quite a few of his posts. (And Mark Bilk and I deserve some credit for confronting him about this antisemitism.) No one is beyond redemption -- perhaps Eastman will begin to think more clearly about these issues in the future. A basic rule of thumb: judge people as individuals, not as members of ethnic, religious or national groups. Don't attack entire groups of people on the basis of ethnic, religious or national stereotypes. It's the American Way. All forms of obsessive ethnic and religious bigotry are much like alcoholism -- the victims of this disease need help. Deep inside all bigots know that they have a psychological problem and that this is no way to live. Dick Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dick Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: When I attacked Jewish culture in my last post -- I crossed over into Hitlerland. Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:55:48 -0700 I have let myself become unjustly critical of Jews as a group -- greatly harming the effort of bringing to justice individual (Jewish) perpetrators of specific monstrous crimes and social problems Mark Bilk warned me this would happen. As some find it hard not to blame the white man in general -- so this white man has gone and slandered innocent Jews (by bunching them with the guilty ones.) Guilt belongs only to individuals. Collective guilt is unjust. And to attack a people and their entire culture is to engage in collective guilt. I probably won't quit posting -- never seem to be able to do that for long. But you and I know that I have a problem. It doesn't matter how right I am on some things -- better to let the guilty go free than to condemn the innocent. Dick Eastman Yakima, Washington p.s. in case you are confused -- I am referring to my post: Re: Weaponized Porn -- letters and responses -- oi vey! Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
[cia-drugs] Re: Announcement Of 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal
This should have just about the same effect on the criminals as urinating on the chain link fence around the WTC site. I'm sorry to be so cynical, but the criminals still have their hands on the levers of power. The only way the criminals can be messed with is if you hit them in the pocket. A general strike or selective boycotts would be a good way to fight back, but such things require resolve and moral courage. The soft, well fed rabbits who pass for citizens in the USA just do not want to give up one iota of creature comfort to make a stand. As long as I can buy Burberry overcoats and plasma TVs on the cheap from Costco, who am I to complain. Look at the poor bastards who get blown to pieces in Iraq. There is no outcry in the general population over this dirty, illegal war, because the cannon fodder is taken from the poor and disaffected, the deceived and disenfranchised. Not instituting a draft was a brilliant strategy, because throwaway people are being shovelled at far away problems. There is a subtle inequity here - a subrosa confidence that the Iraq war will cleanse the general population of useless eaters and evolutionary deadenders. Where is Tyler Durden when you need him?!!! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, CAMPAIGN FOR A POSITIVE FUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcement Of 9/11 War Crimes Tribunalhttp://peaceinspace.blogs.com/911/2007/08/announcement- of.html **NEW YORK, N.Y. - International Lawyer Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd, who is a Judge on the Kuala Lumpur International War Crimes Tribunal, will make a public call for an International Citizen's 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal. He will speak at Ready for Mainstream, a 9/11 Anniversary Conference ( Sept.8-9, 2007) at Cooper Union, 7th St and 4th Avenue, New York. Information: http://www.ready4mainstream.ny911truth.org/index.html According to Leuren Moret and Alfred Webre, 9/11 was a False Flag Operation to provide a pretext to engage in Genocidal Ecocidal Depleted Uranium (DU) bombing of Central Asia (Afghanistan and Iraq) in order to secure vast oil and uranium reserves; to roll out a Terror-based National Security state-system world-wide; to implement the final stages of a world Depopulation policy; and to trigger a World War III conflagration. Since 1945, under the Nuremberg Principles, causing aggressive war constitutes the most serious of War Crimes. The International Citizen's 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal would be convened under the jurisdiction of the Kuala Lumpur International War Crimes Tribunal, established in February 2007 as a permanent citizen's Tribunal by The Perdana Global Peace Organization, chaired by Tun Dr. Mahathir bin Mohamad, former Prime Minister of Malaysia, who is the first prominent world leader to take up the depleted uranium (DU) radiation issue as an instrumentality of the Depopulation policy. As a matter of law, there is a sufficient quantum of evidence for the appointment of an independent prosecutor under Article III(3) of the U.S. Constitution to prosecute treason against President GW Bush; Vice President Richard B. Cheney; and the Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld for the armed attack upon the United States on September 11, 2001, in the guise of a False Flag Operation. *U.S. Congress fails to Act* The establishment of an International Citizen's 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal is justified, given that official institutions in the U.S. have failed to assign legal accountability for the False Flag Operation of 9/11. Representative John Conyers, Jr., Chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee and his senior staff personally reviewed the 9/11 Independent Prosecutor Act and Congressional Memorandum following the 2006 U.S. Mid-term Election and Senior Staff met twice with representatives of the 9/11 Independent Prosecutor Act. The Chairman refused to introduce the Act, despite support for the Act by his Senior Staff. The 9/11 Commission failed to take testimony under oath from Bush and Cheney, and reached fraudulent conclusions. *9/11 As A War Crime* The False Flag Operation of 9/11 was the pretext for, and an integral part of the planning and execution of the illegal War of Aggression in 2001 against Afghanistan and of War Crimes committed by the United States in Afghanistan, as found by the Final Judgment, International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan at Tokyo. The Court found the use of Depleted Uranium (DU) weapons in Afghanistan to constitute War Crimes, Genocide, Crimes Against Humanity, and Omnicide. The False Flag Operation of 9/11 is a legal component of these War Crimes, and the perpetrators of 9/11 are guilty Aggressive War, Genocide, Crimes Against Humanity, and War Crimes. *I**nformation:* 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal: http://peaceinspace.blogs.com/911/ URL of this article: http://peaceinspace.blogs.com/911/2007/08/announcement-of.html
[cia-drugs] Re: Is Fredo toast?
Yeah it is official all over the place!!! Clement to replace him. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a rumor that Gonzales has resigned? Any follow up?
[cia-drugs] Re: No Debate: Did the Holocaust happen? Yes.
Kris, What is your opinion of this book: Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare Revised, enhanced and greatly expanded 2001 edition of this classic work, which illuminates the crimes and command ideology of the masonic Cryptocracy, where ground zero meets the zero hour in a bestial crucible of ritual murder, human alchemy and demonic invasion. Partial list of contents: Mystical Toponomy. Truth or Consequences. The Queen's Conjurer. Jack the Lodge Brother. Sci-Fi Inevitabilism. Son of Uncle Sam. Wicked King Wicker. The Group Mind. The Double Initial Murders. The Lone Nut. Twilight Language. Trinity Sight. Alchemy of Ritual Murder. The Hunimal. The Golem. Rebuilding the Third Temple. Wired to the Data Hive. The Columbine Matrix. The Ritual Aspects of Criminal Politics and much more. Quality softcover. Illustrated. 215 pages. $ 16.95 --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely, Christian Identity is a controlled op, populated by weak- minds. Run by British Intel. MHO Om Peace, K On Aug 27, 2007, at 8:36 AM, Arlene Johnson wrote: I wonder if you would say that to Mark Weber, head of the IHR, Kris or to Eli James, a CI in Chicago who has friends in the U.K. who are CI too? Peace, Arlene Johnson Publisher/Author http://www.truedemocracy.net -Original Message- From: RoadsEnd Sent: Aug 27, 2007 10:23 AM To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Cc: RoadsEnd Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] No Debate: Did the Holocaust happen? Yes. Arlene, this is so much blather. so is your Christain Identity screed. Peace, Kris Millegan On Aug 27, 2007, at 4:19 AM, Arlene Johnson wrote: No, seriously, Jay and Ole. I have a whole bunch of names of people who know that 6 million Jews were not gassed to death during WW II, and I will send them to you privately. Moreover, when I toured Dachau, the tour guide said that when the Soviet Union was advancing on Auschwitz Hitler moved the inmates to Dachau and Bergen Belsen. The commandant asked Hitler for more food. Hitler said according to the tour guide, Make do with what you have because there IS no more food. These people died of famine, typhus, and shootings, not gas. Germar Rudolf, a German chemist, proved it chemically that the Holocaust could not have been carried out. He is in prison now and was denied his Ph.D. because he said that. As for you, Roadsend telling me to take this elsewhere, I deeply resent that. It's a form of censorship, which prevents people's lives from being saved, because the same ones who lied about the Holocaust during WW II are the ones who have planned the destroying of the Unite States and you right along with it. Didn't you Ole read the 18th edition? I gave it to you for free. It explains the whole time from Biblical times on down to today's state of Israel. I used to believe the lie too, but when one of my Saudi Arabian supporters taught me the truth, then I knew better. I even met a family of Jewish people, and the wife rolled up her sleeve and showed me the burned number on her forearm, after she had said to me, God bless you for what you are doing. Peace, Arlene Johnson Publisher/Author http://www.truedemocracy.net -Original Message- From: Jay Howard Sent: Aug 24, 2007 8:20 PM To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] No Debate: Did the Holocaust happen? Yes. Seriously, Arlene, Auschwitz was not the only death camp. Nor can its purpose or existence be denied by anything other than pure irrationality disguised as research. I lived in Poland. I saw the camps, walked on the same patches of land as its custodians and its victims. There's a reason hardly any Jews live in Poland anymore. A large proportion of them didn't flee. Do you know where the word ghetto comes from? I'm no fan of the state of Israel. It can unquestionably be categorized as an apartheid state. US foreign aid since Carter extends into the TRILLIONS of dollars--helping to sustain this situation. They have been and remain to be an officially undeclared nuclear power, despite the sanctions against possession of such weapons by Israel. The atrocities committed by the Israelis is not justified by the atrocities committed against them. None of that makes the holocaust go away. Sincerely, Jay Howard --- RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it did. And it is used in the contrived dialectic. Arlene, please take this topic somewhere else. Peace, K On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ole Gerstrøm wrote: Dear Arlene, When the British came to Bergen Belsen in 1945, did they not see, what they saw? Did those inmates not die after all? Ole - Original Message - From: Arlene Johnson To: CIA-drugs Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:00 PM
[cia-drugs] Re: Karl Rove's Gay Dad Made His Son Fall in Love With Jeff Gannon
According to Jim Ward (a body piercing specialist and the source of the Rove's dad story), Rove's dad had 37 piercings on his penis and was a very nice person who decided to come out of the closet and be openly gay. Does anyone think the timing of this story and the Rove resignation are tied together? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talon News is still plugging away at the whole making shit up on the nternet thing, and their unbylined, three paragraph story on the Rove rumor is a marvel of confusing, unsourced speculation. Also, they use the term pron. We're not sure if they're being 1337 or if that's a typo. But apparently Karl and Jeff Gannon fucked in the Buchanan room! http://wonkette.com/politics/no-more-a_roving-dept%27/karl-roves- gay-dad-made-his-son-fall-in-love-with-jeff-gannon-292407.php no more a-roving dept. Karl Rove's Gay Dad Made His Son Fall in Love With Jeff Gannon Former manwhore turned journalist turned blogger Jeff Gannon's sketchy old employers claim that Jeff Gannon will claim that Karl Rove is a gay homosexual who has sex with other gay homosexual men, just like his adoptive father, whose penis you can see on the internet if you're into that sort of thing. Talon News is still plugging away at the whole making shit up on the nternet thing, and their unbylined, three paragraph story on the Rove rumor is a marvel of confusing, unsourced speculation. Also, they use the term pron. We're not sure if they're being 1337 or if that's a typo. But apparently Karl and Jeff Gannon fucked in the Buchanan room! What we don't get is why Karl would have a sleepover with a male whore at the White House, but hey, now that we've seen his dad's cock ring we'll believe anything. And speaking of, today we learned that Karl's dad once appeared on the cover of Piercing Fans International Quarterly, our favorite piercing journal. He had 37 piercings AND THEY WERE ALL MADE OF SOLID GOLD. Karl Rove's Pierced Family Jewels, part 2: Jim Ward interview (audio) [boing boing] August 13, 2007 [Talon News] 4:35 PM ON WED AUG 22 2007 BY PAREENE 5,984 views a.. TOPIC: b.. gay c.. hookers d.. jeff gannon e.. karl rove f.. no more a-roving dept. g.. rumors Read More: a.. Karl Rove Calls Somebody Else 'Effete' b.. Even Autocrats Get the Blues c.. 'The Atlantic's' Rove Story Demonstrates Mastery of Accidental Timing
[cia-drugs] Zeitgeist Part 1
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[cia-drugs] zeitgeist Part 2
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[cia-drugs] Zeitgeist Part 3
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[cia-drugs] Rove leaves
ROVE SAYS GOODBYE Am I th only one who thinks that this guy can do as much damage with a phone in Texas as he can with a phone in DC? By leaving, Rove reduces the heat on Bush, but Rove can still pull strings. If Rove were leaving to serve a prison sentence, I would feel much better about all of this.
[cia-drugs] what is really happening in iraq
Iraq Resistance Using
Heat Seeking Missiles
The Green Zone Follies
8-5-7
BAGHDAD -- Reading the New York Times on the net, I see an op ed
piece by O'Hanlnn and Pollack from the Brookings people. I and my
friends laughed for some time about this. We call this the Greater
Fool Game.
I suppose that by now, everyone has heard about how Bush's
moronic 'surge' is a huge success and that the generals here
are 'stunningly optimistic' and, even funnier, that the
soldier's 'morale is booming as never before.' You all should know
that we have on call here in Baghdad, selected groups of friendly,
white, photogenic young fellows who are kept on tap, and all dressed
in nice neat combat uniforms, to entertain idiot journalists and
visiting big wigs like the really air-headed McCain and others like
that when they come over to the New Democratic Paradise to View the
Real Picture.
These PR monkeys are the same ones who were writing silly pieces to
various U.S. newspapers, purporting to come from local boys stationed
in Iraq and raving about how the war was being won and how much the
Iraqis just loved us. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer exposed that
one. Soldiers from, let's say, Des Moines, were called in, handed a
fictional press release, ordered to sign it and warned to keep quiet
about it. Finally, it was decided that this might eventually present
a risk of exposure so a Lieutenant friend of mine just copied their
signatures onto the forms.
Listen, the 'surge' is a total failure. The local civil war is raging
all around us, every fucking day huge car bombs obliterate half a
neighborhood, the rag heads are killing people inside the Green Zone
on a daily basis what with deadly long-range sniping and mortar
attacks, drug use by everybody is rampant, no one wants to go outside
the Green Zone in any kind of a street vehicle, tacked- on useless
armor or not, because the newer generation of road bombs have been
known to blow up a tank and knock it onto its side.
The enemy is now using heat-seeking rockets ('from Iran' the White
House Goebbels Department screeches, but they are from Saudi Arabia
instead and our intelligence people are well aware of this) and are
nailing choppers full of men on a daily basis (six last week with
thirty-two dead) and I know you never get a single word of this
Stateside. Only if one blows up in front of the few foreign reporters
still allowed here is anything said. And foreign journalists, or even
our own, dare not step over the line or they are shot by accident
by two nasty special units, kept around to get rid of potential
problem people. No man, no problem. And the Pentagon sends out a mass
printed Xeroxed letter with a rubber- stamped signature to relatives
or employers. The crocodile weeps.
Believe me, the resistance people are not winning.no dear hearts from
the Brookings, they have won.
We all know we have to be pulled out of here. A hundred and fifty
thousand of us and twenty five million of them are not good odds.
We're all trying to find a legit way of getting out before the other
side has a surge of its own and kills everything living inside the
Green Zone, including the CG's pet sheep. And, we pray to God, all
the Israeli military and intelligence rats infesting this unholy
place. And when you read unadulterated shit like the Brookings fairy
tales, keep your tongue in your cheek. And if either of these two
stooges ever leave Brookings, they can write children's books about
Fuzzy the Rat or do speeches for Pat Robertson or Randy Rudy, the 911
Hero (Another joke here).
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[cia-drugs] Re: Will Peak Oil short-circuit China's rise?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcy3JbGjQwo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcy3JbGjQwo --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dailyreckoning.us/blog/?p=465 Will Peak Oil short-circuit China's rise? August 6th, 2007 My colleagues and I at the Daily Reckoning talk frequently about two big themes: The reality of Peak Oil, and the rise of China. But what happens when those two big themes intersect? A question I put recently to DR Australia editor Dan Denning. He writes: You see all these trajectories of China's growth. But it assumes the energy will magically appear to make that happen. Cheap energy must be the limit on growth.you'd think so anyway. That's why China is racing ahead with all sorts of energy projects. But even those may not be enough.in which case I'd guess China's breakneck growth will accelerate the depletion of resources.and lead to higher energy prices faster. Sort of a positive feedback loop that ends..with a contraction in global growth.a massive energy shock lasting many years. The wild card is how quickly other sources of transportation fuel or base load for the electric grid can come on line and be scaled up.biofuels.renewables.nuclear.this whole portfolio of alternatives needs to get moving. But it IS moving.we just don't know if it's fast enough or robust enough to support a massively urbanized population. I sure wouldn't want to live in Shanghai for more than a few weeks. So the race is on. In a sense, the question is: Will China grow quickly enough to fully industrialize before energy becomes so expensive that the phenomenon of rising energy prices itself will short-circuit industrialization? Sorta like the question of whether China can grow rich before it grows old - and have enough resources on hand to care for an aging population. Last 5 posts by dave a.. Divided government reconsidered - August 6th, 2007 b.. What's driving $78 oil - August 3rd, 2007 c.. The yuan's turning point -- and the dollar's - August 3rd, 2007 d.. Never mind - August 2nd, 2007 e.. Iraqi oil to Israeli port? - August 1st, 2007
[cia-drugs] Re: Will Peak Oil short-circuit China's rise?
I think the amazing thing is that a society like China's can maintain rule while letting something like this go like wild fire through its industrial base. oil at best will remain a source for plastics and fertilizer; however, the energy stranglehold is a canard. The boys will just have to figure another way to keep the serfs working on the manor. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=heavy+watergate i sent that article, NOT because believe in peak oil, but because the emerging economic threat of china is one part of the peak oil scam. on the one hand it will be blamed for high prices, vis a vis increased demand and also fake oil shortages will be an economic weapon against china. there are free enegy sources that are well known, but suppressed. - Original Message - From: mark urban To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Will Peak Oil short-circuit China's rise? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcy3JbGjQwo --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: http://www.dailyreckoning.us/blog/?p=465 Will Peak Oil short-circuit China's rise? August 6th, 2007 My colleagues and I at the Daily Reckoning talk frequently about two big themes: The reality of Peak Oil, and the rise of China. But what happens when those two big themes intersect? A question I put recently to DR Australia editor Dan Denning. He writes: You see all these trajectories of China's growth. But it assumes the energy will magically appear to make that happen. Cheap energy must be the limit on growth.you'd think so anyway. That's why China is racing ahead with all sorts of energy projects. But even those may not be enough.in which case I'd guess China's breakneck growth will accelerate the depletion ofresources.and lead to higher energy prices faster. Sort of a positive feedback loop that ends..with a contraction in global growth.a massive energy shock lasting many years. The wild card is how quickly other sources of transportation fuel or base load for the electric grid can come on line and be scaled up.biofuels.renewables.nuclear.this whole portfolio of alternatives needs to get moving. But it IS moving.we just don't know if it's fast enough or robust enough to support a massively urbanized population. I sure wouldn't want to live in Shanghai for more than a few weeks. So the race is on. In a sense, the question is: Will China grow quickly enough to fully industrialize before energy becomes so expensive that the phenomenon of rising energy prices itself will short-circuit industrialization? Sorta like the question of whether China can grow rich before it grows old - and have enough resourcs on hand to care for an aging population. Last 5 posts by dave a.. Divided government reconsidered - August 6th, 2007 b.. What's driving $78 oil - August 3rd, 2007 c.. The yuan's turning point -- and the dollar's - August 3rd, 2007 d.. Never mind - August 2nd, 2007 e.. Iraqi oil to Israeli port? - August 1st, 2007 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/940 - Release Date: 8/6/2007 4:53 PM
[cia-drugs] Re: Super re-construction
Ich bin ein palesteiner!, which does not loosely translate to being an arab pastry. Welcome to the global plantation! have you seen this video? http://youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Democracy Now featured a couple of authors from Mother Jones who have written about the collapsed I-35 bridge as being federally controlled on a federally controlled waterway and a federal highway but the feds blame the state. Their real aim is to privatize Eisenhower's interstate highway system. Now it occurs to me that Russell Opium Trust (ROT) war colonialists want to take away the citizens' right to tax trucks by making the interstate a toll road. And those citizens are the truckers and longshoremen and factory workers and non-Walmart retailers/employees dis-employed by manufacturing in China, shipping to Mexico for offloading, trucking from Mexico to Walmart by drivers from India. The dis-employed will not be able to tax the Indian truckers and British East India Company for unemployment or road infrastructure. Then it will get like Palestine. First travel permits, in the form of who has the flash pass for the tolls. Then revocation of all travel permits or flash passes for the indigenous American dis-employed white trash. Finally, you can't touch or cross the road or the concrete wall with guard towers. Concentration camps will be bounded by roads and walls in Palestine now, and Palestinians other than sold-out politicians cannot obtain travel permits to cross the road or wall. We're on our way there. Eisenhower warned that War Colonialists would try to take over the interstate highway system. Double your mileage and triple petroleum fuel taxes to retain ownership of our roads and lower your total fuel bills at the same time: http://www.takeaction.com.au/hoh/default.asp -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, norgesen norgesen@ wrote: From: Vicky Davis Minnesota I-35 lines up with the Winnepeg node of the Asia-Pacific Gateway and the Trans-Texas Corridor. http://www.tc.gc.ca/majorissues/APGCI/large_map.htm http://www.channelingreality.com/images/International_Hiways.JPG Gee... What a lucky 'Pearl Harbor' break. Now that the bridge collapsed, I guess they'll have to do some super re-construction for the NAFTA Superhighway through Minnesota. http://www.channelingreality.com/NAU/International_Corridors.htm
[cia-drugs] Re: Omits
Bob, I just can't get it out of my head that GHWB was a teenage pilot in WWII who came back from the war to attend Yale. (where did the Tesla angle enter? When did he have time to secretary for tesla?) It seems odd that in a world where the reigns of power appear to be firmly in the hands of men who follow the NEOCON perspective, that nazis, neonazis and fascists are getting all the attention. I remember that Bush's family was british and had to leave england right around the time of the failed gunpowder plot. I think the name was Pierce, though that might be the Barbara Bush side of the ledger. I think the Skorzeny story is pretty far out there. I put it up there along with Tom Flocco's revelations about Bush and Cheney getting Indicted by Fitzgerald. A person could look at the world through Mae Brussel's eyes and see a nazi behind every plot. I just do not think it is so. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Mark, that's the story, Idaho Observer 200704, Skorzeny according to Berman. As I was reading that, with its emphasis on Jesuits, I think I remember that Chip McBride emphasizes the zionist Jews to the exclusion of Jesuits. Then I wondered if maybe Sean B wasn't Boston Irish, and thus highly likely Roman Catholic, maybe even Jesuit educated. Chip and Sean both live in a Boston suburb and both work in Cambridge. Maybe they are both Boston Irish and omit Jesuits from their expozays. Read the Gary North piece on New Mercantilism, where instead of aiming to accumulate gold, or US dollars, foreign banks(or surrogate funds) accumulate US equities, and China may also buy long commodity contracts. That's a Yellow Peril thing, but omitted is that foreign treasuries started buying equity in the form of REITs back in the last century, a decade ago. What about REITs now, with the decline in US real estate value? You have to at least mention REITs. Some small countries base their currency on US REITs. Carlyle Group reportedly advises its investors that they are hovering like vultures to pounce on undervalued US real estate after that is tanked by rising interest rates. North would blame China for any rise in US interest rates, covering the Carlyle vultures, who always escape Nuremburgs, unless this Skorzeny thing turns out well. When my brother visited Windsor Castle, they told him we are related to the Bush family. Now Skorzeny tells us that the Bush family are social climbers without pedigress, other than that of Aleister Crowley. Does that mean I get to be president? Oh, we don't have presidents anymore, sorry. Another omission in the Tillman execution story is the obvious conclusion that if Jessica Lynch's nurses tried to return her to American lines, that the Iraqis followed the Geneva Convention in treating her well and trying to return her, not even exchange her. Rajiv Chandrasekaran, Washington Post reporter and author, has written that the US occupation did not at any point re-supply or reinforce staff of Iraqi hospitals looted during the US invasion, so that they continually smelled like corpses and feces during the entire US formal occupation. And other mainstream news outlets reported that US forces shot a female ambulance driver in Faluja, destroyed ambulances, and seized hospitals in Faluja and Hit, because they followed the Geneva Convention and treated enemy combatants like Pvt. Jessica Lynch. Bush does quack like a nazi, doesn't he? And then three bullets from Goebbels' Luger to the forehead of Pat Tillman? There must be some refugees from Nuremburg around here, maybe in Floridistan.
[cia-drugs] Tillman Executed???!!!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/230606terrorstorm.htm http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/adinlela.html http://www.prisonplanet.com/ http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/riinstsmyofa.html http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.ram NAVIGATION Latest News http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html THE ALEX JONES SHOW Listening Info http://www.infowars.com/listen.htmlListen Live http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.ramSunday Show mms://stream2.emmisaustin.com/klbj-am 4-6PM Podcast http://www.infowars.com/listen.html#instructions_ajs SERVICES Shopping Cart http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/index.html Infowars.net http://www.infowars.net/front.htmlNewsgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infowarsnews/Forum https://prisonplanet.tv/forum ARCHIVES Subject Archives http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives.html9/11 Archive http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.htmlAudio http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio.htmlVideo http://www.prisonplanet.com/video.html SPECIAL REPORTS Alex Jones http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report.htmlPaul Watson http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_watson.htmlSteve Watson http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_swatson.html LINKS Infowars.com http://www.infowars.com/Prisonplanet.tv http://prisonplanet.tv/JonesReport.com http://jonesreport.com/ Martiallaw911.info http://martiallaw911.info/ CONTACT Advertise http://www.prisonplanet.com/advertise.htmlContact Alex http://www.infowars.com/contact.htmlContact Webmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Link To Us http://www.prisonplanet.com/link.html ADVERTISEMENTS http://www.charnieforestgites.com/ http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/index.htmlNew Evidence Clearly Indicates Pat Tillman Was Executed Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away, no evidence of friendly fire damage at scene, Army attorneys congratulated each other on cover-up, Wesley Clark concludes orders came from the very top to murder pro-football star because he was about to become an anti-war political icon Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html Friday, July 27, 2007 Astounding new details surrounding the death of Pat Tillman clearly indicate that top brass decided to execute the former pro football star in cold blood to prevent him from returning home and becoming an anti-war icon. These same criminals then engaged in a sophisticated conspiracy to create a phony friendly fire cover story. Shocking new facts emerged about the case last night but were bizarrely underplayed by the Associated Press under nondescript headlines like 'New Details on Tillman's Death' http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/26/ap3958728.html - a complete disservice to the horrific implications that the new evidence carries. (Article continues below) Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player's death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described, a doctor who examined Tillman's body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators. The doctors - whose names were blacked out - said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away. The report also states that No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck. The article also reveals that Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments. So there was no evidence whatsoever of friendly fire, but the ballistics data clearly indicated that the three head shots had been fired from just 10 yards away and then the Army tried to concoct a hoax friendly fire story and sent gloating back-slapping e mails congratulating each other on their success while preventing the doctors from exploring the possibility of murder. How can any sane and rational individual weigh this evidence and not come to the conclusion that Tillman was deliberately gunned down in cold blood? The evidence points directly to it and the motivation is clear - Tillman abandoned a lucrative career in pro-football immediately after 9/11 because he felt a rampaging patriotic urge to defend his country, and became a poster child for the war on terror as a result. But when he discovered that the invasion of Iraq was based on a mountain of lies and deceit and had nothing to do with defending America, he became infuriated and was ready to
[cia-drugs] Re: Chinese Assassin Cult Closes Market
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, I do not pretend to understand wtf you are talking about except that you ain't convinced about the authenticity of Benjamin Fulford's statements via Rense. I think I drew the line last night when Fulford said the recent earthquake at the nuke plant was punishment for coming out with this stuff about assassinating the so called western illuminati types. My advice is that Ben should get his own handle on Rayelan's blog so he and Chris Bollyn can keep up to date. Next stop: fulford must be interviewed by fintan dunne after which time fintan will ouit him as a CIA bitch. Straight from a rosebud on William Randolph Hearst's corpse lips-- KGB poison umbrella tips only had power on one end. These Chinese assassination buttons have power on both ends. If an ordinary customer of a farmer's market, perhaps a genetically chinese customer of a farmer's market, grabs one of these Impeach Him buttons, he changes into an angry assassin. The farmer's market was closed for fear that this gang of genetically recruited renseian chinese assassins would start testing their poison Impeach Him button spikes on market goers who had not yet bought buttons. Maybe the Secret Service tipped off the tipster to what happens next, because he shut down the farmer's market for fear of, yes, maybe, Yellow Peril. Alan McConnell was flipping his Impeach Him button profits into Impeach Them yard signs like Guy Bannister printing Fair Play for Cuba Committee placards when he was pre-emptively arrested on a hot Air America umbrella tip from a patriot. Meanwhile, the same keywords of Chinese assassin cult crop up in New York. Nobody thought to ask if two feuding Chinese cults were both training to assassinate Castro, because that would be free energy, but Epoch Times 20070719 A1 staff writer Stephen Gregory has a Chinese red student gang threatening to assassinate Falun Gong sympathizers at Columbia University, where Rashid Khalidi sympathizes with Palestinians. If you don't know, better tell somebody. Rense's Forbes Chinese assassination cults may be faking to kill Castro. Better vote away the rest of your rights to Kiefer Sutherland right away. If you still have any doubts, Alice is feeling tall with both legs wrapped around the landing gear under the pod of that purple Boeing with spinner wheels, all you gotta do is ask. Lucy is up there, Tammy are feeling tall, and you know Putin refused to get anywhere near NYC or DC, right? NYC and DC, you have heard of them in tandem before, and now we're talking mind control of select genetic backgrounds by merely touching poison campaign buttons, closing down the markets again, it's time to trigger, Condy Dates, bump, bump, bump, time to remember your secret names and get tall, all. Remember, you didn't remember it here. When you get up out of that chair, you won't remember a thing. You read it in the Washington Post, as far as you know, and they were also talking about Pakistani brothers killing each other like the Inhaler brothers, Vladim and Ivan, when their father died. Bet they smoked hashish, too, in the days before double-ended kgb umbrella tips. If anybody wants to hide with me for the duration, I have the entire Trailer Park Boys series on dvd, and lots of expired Mormon chop suey noodles. The bin Ladens have the purple Boeing booked, though.
[cia-drugs] puke alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bush pardons libby we're totally screwed as a country, a society, culture it is over. we are completely run and owned by the neocons god bless big brother!!!
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: TERROR FLIGHT SCHOOL OWNER'S NEW PARTNER
Somebody is going to have to explain this to me. What is Daniel's point? Is Hilliard a just a thug colluding with narco terrorists? or is Hilliard a US Gov't Black Ops thug running narco terrorist rings on behalf of the Octopus? Riddle me this, Batman? When is an inside job like an outside job? When the outsiders are patsies who thought they were doing a job that was actually taken care of by the insider's mechanics. Ask Dan to explain how Osama did WTC7 and I will shut up forever!! Forget about the melting point of steel! How about the professional meaning of the term pull-it? Cui Bono? Didn't Larry get the favorable ruling from the judge stating that it was two separate incidents? Who benefits from the coming hit on Iran? Dan should get some Rosie face time! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Madcow News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: June 25, 2007 6:39:30 AM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TERROR FLIGHT SCHOOL OWNER'S NEW PARTNER TERROR FLIGHT SCHOOL OWNER'S NEW PARTNER: Drug Smuggler Caught in O.J. Simpson Sting Read the whole story at madcowprod.com WORLD EXCLUSIVE June 25 2007 by Daniel Hopsicker The owner of the flight school in Venice FL where the two hijackers who crashed airliners into the World Trade Center took flight lessons launched a new aviation company with a partner who was convicted in a 2002 drug sting in Miami whose target was O.J. Simpson, the MadCowMorningNews has learned. Former owner of Huffman Aviation Wallace J. Hilliard filed articles of incorporation for PRESTIGE AIRWAYS,LLC with the State of Florida on June 8th, 2006, government records reveal. In a mysterious move, six months later he surreptitiously removed his name from company records. He is partners with convicted drug smuggler Philippe Gornail, who pled guilty to selling 37,000 'hits' of ecstasy in February 2002 in a drug case which involved a highly-publicized raid on O.J. Simpson's house in Miami by the combined forces of the FBI, DEA and Miami-Dade police. Between August and December of 2006 Prestige Airways flew an enormous number of flights (419!), records at the U.S. Dept of Transportation reveal, between Florida and Haiti. Nor is Philippe Gornail the only current Hilliard partner with a highly-checkered past. Read the whole story at madcowprod.com
[cia-drugs] Re: ruppert on webb
After a two year contestability period, the insurance company must pay off, regardless of cause of death. You can tell Mike has contempt for us, but not in the overt way he says. Mike thinks we believe that life insurance pays out for suicide, if Mike says so, based on his prediction of Y2K chaos and dinosaur trickle down the leg fuel economics. Incroyable. in the ten days prior to his death Gary had: changed the beneficiaries and upped the payouts on his insurance policies; written individual letters to each of his children, his ex-wife, his mother and his brother telling them goodbye(Mike Ruppert speaking of Gary Webb) If Mike Ruppert had really been a friend of Gary Webb, instead of just sucking up to gain Webb's sources, Mike would have known that adjusting his life insurance policy was Webb's way of proving to any REAL friend that he would never commit suicide. If we take that fact alone, Ruppert is either a formerly incompetent police detective, or is somehow corrupt. Can anyone save Ruppert on that point? Just prove to me that life insurance in general always pays out to beneficiaries when the annuitant shoots himself in the head, and I'll crawl away. Maybe I'll walk away, not crawl, because I invited you to debunk the notion that life insurance is generally known not to pay out on suicide. Right? And why would Gary believe he was about to be two-bullet suicided like Tom Kersey, a journalist connected to OKCbomb via the Mueller family massacre, and about to be Casolo'd, Cutolo'd, Sabow'd, Foster'd? Because, as Chico Brown has told us, Webb was having government burglars in regularly, and his motorcycle was stolen the day before his unlikely to be a life insurance fraud incident. Did Brian Quig and Barbara Wise and Jerry Clinton's Arkansas security guard not all die shortly after government burglars first verified that they had containment of all hard evidence the victims were killed for? Government burglars are a death knell at the point they get really out in the open and blatant about it, as when they steal your motorcycle instead of fading away after you chase them off your balcony. Quig's car was stolen several times, then burned, and then government burglars examined his hard drive right in front of his eyes. A BATF agent held Kersey's CB radio while he was two-bullet suicided, one supposes in the presence of two CI's documented to be on their way to the scene, and to have threatened Kersey with murder of his family like the Muellers, who had been murdered inside a government safe house, according to DNA. Another fed wiped the CB and stole the answering machine tape with death threats by federal CI's on it. In Webb's case we see government burglars, and that's all, but we know he told his friend Mike Ruppert by adjusting his life insurance policy that he intended NOT TO EVER commit suicide, or to fake it if he did! OK, he was cleaning his gun, it was an accident, then the bullet would have come from beneath his chin and more than a foot away. Ruppert gives us the details, it was no fake gun cleaning accident, because the bullets came from the side of the head. Ever clean your pistola that way, MIKE, while holding it to the side of your head and above? Gary counted on Mike to hear his message via life insurance adjustments that he would never fake suicide so poorly. Come on Mike. Are we really supposed to believe that life insurance generally pays out on suicide? -Bob Dodds --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: GARY WEBB Well, here's where the flames come out. (Everone wanted a little fireworks right?) Gary left a long trail indicating his intention to commit suicide starting about ten days before his death.(Actually, even longer.) Let's deal with the two shots first since that's the place where amateuers and dilettantes get so hooked and become such unjustified and unqualified experts. There's a couple of pieces of real bad disinformation in this thread. Gary was not shotin the face. After his death I went to Sacramento and interviewed his entire family except for his mother. This included his brother,his ex-wife and his three children. They were all open and frank withme, knowing that I had been close to him. His brother, ex-wife and eldest son all told me they when they saw his body in the morgue, pre-autopsy, they observed two entry wounds near the right temple (NOT THE FACE). I originally reported that the first wound had blown out Gary's lower left jaw. His ex wife, Susan, later corrected me that the bullet had not exited the jaw but it was clear that the jaw had been shattered and pushed outwards. There was a massive edema, confirming that it was a pre-mortem wound. Now, draw a human head from the front. Put ears on so you know where the temples are. Draw a line from the right temple to the lower left jaw and tell me if any
[cia-drugs] Re: The Contract Murder Of Eustace Mullins
Mullins knew Ezra Pound very well. Pound was a much beloved teacher of TS Eliot, James Joyce and many others. Pound fell out of favor with the intellectual elite (and the Roosevelt administration) when he embraced Mussolini. Pound was forced to live in an asylum as a result of his unpopular opinions. Mullins used to visit Pound in the asylum and Pound actually funded Mullins' research into the Federal Reserve. Somebody with a good grasp of the literary history of the last century should interview Mullins for his first hand information about people like Pound and TS Eliot before Mullins dies or is incapacitated as a function of age. .--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Robert Busser To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: [work_democracy] The Contract Murder Of Eustace Mullins Eustace is currently in the hospital, ICU, burst appendix, pray for him http://www.rense.com/general72/contract.htm The Contract Murder Of Eustace Mullins By Eustace Mullins 6-16-6 For more than five years, I have been battling to stay alive in the State in which I live. My adversary has not been the mafia, but the Commonwealth of Virginia. The occasion was my publishing the American-Christian Messenger, founded in 1972, in the summer of '72 issue, titled the Red State of Virginia. I revealed for the first time that the famed Byrd machine, which maintained iron control over the people of Virginia for many years, was actually the Rothschild-Byrd Machine. In December, 1893, Tom Martin, a railroad lawyer representing Jacob Schiff of Kuhn Loeb and Company, the American branch of the House of Rothschild, ran for the U.S. Senate from Virginia. He was predicted to lose against the popular Fitzhugh Lee, but Kuhn Loeb bought ten members of the Democratic Caucus of the Virginia Assembly for the sum of one thousand dollars each. They then switched their votes from Lee to Martin, who won the Senate seat. Two young men from Martinsburg, VA are launching their careers at that time. They were long time friends, Harry Byrd and Lewis Lichtenstein Strauss. Strauss joined Kuhn, Loeb and Company and with his financial backing, Byrd went into the Martin Organization, which later became the Byrd Machine, with Rothschild backing. After many years of total dictatorial rule in Virginia, Byrd finally died. Strauss pushed his son to replace him, and the Byrd Machine continued with his son Harry Jr. It was continuing now and was always known as the Byrd Machine, but although to those in the know, it was always the Byrd-Rothschild Machine. When Byrd Jr. decided to run as an Independent, Strauss mailed flyers to every voter in the State of Virginia, notifying them that he supported Byrd Jr. as an Independent. Speaking of this strange alliance, over WRNL, Richmond, VA . Feb. 10, 1949, Colonel Frances Pickens Miller said Virginia has not been functioning normally as a free society because of the Political Clique that has controlled the Commonwealth during the past half century. Byrd referred to Byrd's lieutenant, a man never elected to any Office, E.R. Combs, State Chairman of the Compensation Board, who set the pay for every Byrd henchman who held every Office in the State, which was modeled after the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, which Byrd had used as a model in setting up his own totalitarian State bureaucracy in Virginia. Miller then had to move to North Carolina after making this speech. There has been no opposition to the Rothschild-Byrd Machine since 1949, in Virginia. This continues the absolutist tradition in Virginia, which began as huge Estates, owned by men like King Carter and the Byrd's. From its inception, it has been the very rich and masses of peasants. Its Capitol, Richmond, VA is referred to as FIC, referring to three groups which have always held power there. F is for Freemasons, I is for the State of Israel and C for Communism. All three flags have on occasions flown over the State Capitol in Richmond. There is no Virginia flag, as Virginia is the last thing in the minds of the Virginia legislature, as corrupt today as it was in 1893 when its bribed members voted Tom Martin into the U.S. Senate. When we think of the wonderful people we have had in this State, Washington, Jefferson and so many others, we wonder how we came to this sorry pass? The truth is, Virginians haven't changed that much. We have been deleteriously influenced by changing mores, and changing times. The people in my area, Staunton, VA, have not changed that much, but their morals have been loosened that much. The pressures around them have changed. It is as deep sea diving, we have gone beyond our depths, and we are now trying to change to adapt to the pressures of
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Hitler (associations which appear to have led Dulles to commit untroubled acts of treason). But a few years later another of Dulles's plans, Project Paperclip, found far greater success, so that even as Germany underwent denazification the Nazi occult sciences were Americanized. Let's remember the worlds that the word Nazi can hold. The street- brawling thugs are always dispensable; even Hitler, who came up from the streets, dispensed with them. And to the SS conniving behind his back, Hitler could be done away with, too. It's such quiet and refined elite, whose members belong to the community of international money, that can smash more than our windows. Those are the Nazis to whom Allen Dulles delivered the keys to America. They were not the alien other, like European Jewry or the Communists. They were blutsbrüder. posted by Jeff at 6:45 AM - --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: Hey, Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. Then again, maybe it is all part of a campaign designed to get you chasing your tail like Little Black Sambo's tiger. Allegedly, Seal flew guns to Castro in pre-revolution Cuba, flew the JFK assassins out of Texas, flew Cocaine into the USA during Iran Contra, and had GHWB's personal phone number in his wallet when he was gunned down by supposed drug cartel hitmen. I think it is funny (odd not humorous) as hell that Daniel does most of his interviews with Dave Emory - a man who would have you believe that the Nazis are behind todays illicit drug traffic and Islamic terrorism. For the sake of perspective, anyone who was twenty years old in 1945 would be in their eighties today - hardly an age at which effectiveness in the management of a worldwide criminal enterprise can be claimed. In addition, it is difficult for me to believe that these so called Nazis were able to recruit so many proselytes to the cause. Then again, the Mossad connection to drugs and false flag terror is ignored completely. You see, Dan and Dave know which side of the bread has butter on it and who owns the sticks of butter. I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond German named Wolfgang his brother. As Matt Damon says in THE GOOD SHEPHERD Wer war der tor, wer weiser, wer bettler oder kaiser, ob arm ob reich, im tode gleich!
[cia-drugs] E. Howard Hunt and JFK
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper/0701/20070125_Thu_Piper.ram An interesting thesis not one nazi was involved
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Rev. Moon's Anti-Osama Agit-Prop
i think you mean anti-OBAMA --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Consortiumnews.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: January 22, 2007 8:06:38 PM PST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rev. Moon's Anti-Osama Agit-Prop Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Rev. Sun Myung Moon's media operations have done for two decades, the Korean cult leader's Insight magazine has stepped up to inject an early dose of poison into Campaign 2008. In this case, Moon's weekly magazine was peddling a bogus story suggesting that Barack Obama is a clandestine Islamic agent and that Hillary Clinton's operatives were dishing the dirt. Though the anti-Obama agit-prop was quickly disproved, it revealed again how valuable Moon and his mysterious money have been to the Republicans and especially to the Bush family. For the full story of how Moon's foreign money continues to distort the U.S. political process, go to Consortiumnews.com at http:// www.consortiumnews.com . To remove yourself from this list, click here: http:// www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizations/consortiumnews/ unsubscribe.jsp?remove
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Hey, Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. Then again, maybe it is all part of a campaign designed to get you chasing your tail like Little Black Sambo's tiger. Allegedly, Seal flew guns to Castro in pre-revolution Cuba, flew the JFK assassins out of Texas, flew Cocaine into the USA during Iran Contra, and had GHWB's personal phone number in his wallet when he was gunned down by supposed drug cartel hitmen. I think it is funny (odd not humorous) as hell that Daniel does most of his interviews with Dave Emory - a man who would have you believe that the Nazis are behind todays illicit drug traffic and Islamic terrorism. For the sake of perspective, anyone who was twenty years old in 1945 would be in their eighties today - hardly an age at which effectiveness in the management of a worldwide criminal enterprise can be claimed. In addition, it is difficult for me to believe that these so called Nazis were able to recruit so many proselytes to the cause. Then again, the Mossad connection to drugs and false flag terror is ignored completely. You see, Dan and Dave know which side of the bread has butter on it and who owns the sticks of butter. I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond German named Wolfgang his brother. As Matt Damon says in THE GOOD SHEPHERD Wer war der tor, wer weiser, wer bettler oder kaiser, ob arm ob reich, im tode gleich! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... by Wendell Seal Hopsicker has lied about my brother Barry Seal if any one wants to hear about it email me the Holy Grail Picture that he used to say it was CIA spooks meeting in Mexico City was a snapshot of a wedding party of Ronny Shaab's sisters batchlor party.
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
the White House lacked Dulles's empathy towards aristocratic Nazis and his bond to supra-national capital saddled with the boorish and doomed Hitler (associations which appear to have led Dulles to commit untroubled acts of treason). But a few years later another of Dulles's plans, Project Paperclip, found far greater success, so that even as Germany underwent denazification the Nazi occult sciences were Americanized. Let's remember the worlds that the word Nazi can hold. The street- brawling thugs are always dispensable; even Hitler, who came up from the streets, dispensed with them. And to the SS conniving behind his back, Hitler could be done away with, too. It's such quiet and refined elite, whose members belong to the community of international money, that can smash more than our windows. Those are the Nazis to whom Allen Dulles delivered the keys to America. They were not the alien other, like European Jewry or the Communists. They were blutsbrüder. posted by Jeff at 6:45 AM - --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: Hey, Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. Then again, maybe it is all part of a campaign designed to get you chasing your tail like Little Black Sambo's tiger. Allegedly, Seal flew guns to Castro in pre-revolution Cuba, flew the JFK assassins out of Texas, flew Cocaine into the USA during Iran Contra, and had GHWB's personal phone number in his wallet when he was gunned down by supposed drug cartel hitmen. I think it is funny (odd not humorous) as hell that Daniel does most of his interviews with Dave Emory - a man who would have you believe that the Nazis are behind todays illicit drug traffic and Islamic terrorism. For the sake of perspective, anyone who was twenty years old in 1945 would be in their eighties today - hardly an age at which effectiveness in the management of a worldwide criminal enterprise can be claimed. In addition, it is difficult for me to believe that these so called Nazis were able to recruit so many proselytes to the cause. Then again, the Mossad connection to drugs and false flag terror is ignored completely. You see, Dan and Dave know which side of the bread has butter on it and who owns the sticks of butter. I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond German named Wolfgang his brother. As Matt Damon says in THE GOOD SHEPHERD Wer war der tor, wer weiser, wer bettler oder kaiser, ob arm ob reich, im tode gleich!
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Geez Kris, you're right. Why is it that everybody related to Seal wants to deny what he did? I would think there would be a lot of badboy cache' associated with the the legend of Barry Seal. It would be worth free drinks in the right bars and lots of fascinating conversation at the barbecue pit - not exactly something good ol boys want to pass up as they age in the south. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendell is Barry's brother. Bear Bottoms is not, BB is Barry Seal's brother-in-law. And Wendell's comment is years old and was shown to be false when Wendell first made the comment. It is just recycling shit to see if maybe it will stick. By the way the Mossad/Israel, the Nazis and Bush regime are all the same group. Peace, K On Jan 20, 2007, at 4:08 AM, mark urban wrote: Hey, Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. Then again, maybe it is all part of a campaign designed to get you chasing your tail like Little Black Sambo's tiger. Allegedly, Seal flew guns to Castro in pre-revolution Cuba, flew the JFK assassins out of Texas, flew Cocaine into the USA during Iran Contra, and had GHWB's personal phone number in his wallet when he was gunned down by supposed drug cartel hitmen. I think it is funny (odd not humorous) as hell that Daniel does most of his interviews with Dave Emory - a man who would have you believe that the Nazis are behind todays illicit drug traffic and Islamic terrorism. For the sake of perspective, anyone who was twenty years old in 1945 would be in their eighties today - hardly an age at which effectiveness in the management of a worldwide criminal enterprise can be claimed. In addition, it is difficult for me to believe that these so called Nazis were able to recruit so many proselytes to the cause. Then again, the Mossad connection to drugs and false flag terror is ignored completely. You see, Dan and Dave know which side of the bread has butter on it and who owns the sticks of butter. I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond German named Wolfgang his brother. As Matt Damon says in THE GOOD SHEPHERD Wer war der tor, wer weiser, wer bettler oder kaiser, ob arm ob reich, im tode gleich! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: wseal@ wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... by Wendell Seal Hopsicker has lied about my brother Barry Seal if any one wants to hear about it email me the Holy Grail Picture that he used to say it was CIA spooks meeting in Mexico City was a snapshot of a wedding party of Ronny Shaab's sisters batchlor party. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Amanda Keller was the personal escort whom Atta was boffing when he was in Florida prior to 911. Hopsicker tracked her down and interviewed her extensively. She brought up all kinds of interesting things about Atta that gave Daniel keen insight into Atta's mind. Daniel has used many of the insights he got from Amanda Keller to draw the conclusion that Atta could in fact do 911 and that he was not a patsy. In the summer of 2006, Amanda Keller denied ever knowing Mohammed Atta. She says it was another Mohammed. If this is the case, you can see how it weakens the underpinning of Dan's thesis about Atta's psychology. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. VMANN: yeah, that was my response on the packers usenet board. I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond German named Wolfgang his brother. VMANN: i dont follow. vigilius haufniensis
[cia-drugs] Re: Ron Paul presidential bid?
governor and president are two very different positions. the presidency is far too important for the criminal ellte to allow somebody like ron paul have it. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has about as much chance as I do of becoming president. About all he could hope for is to run some very embarrassing ads about the abuse of power by the entrenched powers. Because the ads are protected by certain federal election laws, they have to be run unabridged in whatever venue his campaign chooses. NERD: that's what they said about jesse ventura. vigilius haufniensis
[cia-drugs] Re: World at tipping point; oil peak arrives
You being provocative? or do you have one of the short term memories that can't remember anything for more than 30 minutes? Peak oil is bullshit as is Mike Ruppert and all the other shills in Chin's article. If you really want to become ill, you should check out how Fintan Dunne is saying all the cia disinfo agents are taking a powder now that the dems have congress. http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1401 1 Ruppert is gone 2 Wing TV is gone 3 Amanda Keller recants her Atta Testimony I wish I could argue against Fintan's theory; however, like most good scientific theories, it appears to fit the facts and give some basis for predicting future events. I used to think Fintan was full o' crap, but now I'm wondering!!! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.relocalize.net/node/5690 World at tipping point; oil peak arrives By Larry Chin Online Journal Associate Editor Nov 17, 2005, 20:42 The American empire is an energy junkie in its death throes, punching for new veins and final fixes, knowing that the supplies of its drug of choice -- cheap oil -- are virtually depleted. According to geologist Kenneth Deffeyes, author of Beyond Oil: The View from Beyond Hubbert's Peak, this long-anticipated world oil peak is now -- Thanksgiving 2005. The holocaust of imperial thrashing -- epitomized by the Bush administration's Peak Oil-fueled criminal atrocities -- promises to intensify, along with the denial and cover-up. Confirmation of Peak Oil crisis is everywhere. Oil supplies may be lower than OPEC wants to admit. The second largest oil field in the world, situated in Kuwait, is running dry. The US trade deficit just hit another all-time high. Yet in the US, we have witnessed the spectacle of rising stocks, in response to temporary and artificially manipulated low gas prices created only by the tapping (and possible depletion) of strategic reserves. As Mike Ruppert and the From The Wilderness team point out, in the course of their continuous tracking of Peak Oil-related news: Even today the US media glibly lies and misleads about falling oil prices while failing to tell the American people that most of its domestic production is still shut in or that the 'falling' prices are simply a result of tapping the strategic reserves of this and other IEA countries. Both of those 'artificial' market influences will end shortly . . . The Gulf Coast's energy infrastructure is not even close to repaired, and some damage is permanent. The official data on the impact from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita flies in the face of denials. How is it possible for energy prices to fall if supplies are depleted and the infrastructure to bring supplies to market remains crippled? Outgoing Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and his likely successor, White House advisor Ben Bernanke, continue to tap-dance, admitting energy and severe trade deficit problems, and the souring of critical foreign investment in the US, but insist on repeating old mantras about eternal US economic and market resiliency. How long before the trick bag of artificial market manipulations and transparent lies comes up as empty as a Caspian Basin dry hole? How long before the Plunge Protection Team fails? How much of the strategic reserves have been wasted, in order to create one last short-term illusion of cheap energy bounty? Meanwhile, piece by piece, the White House cover-up of its 9/11- Peak Oil war falls apart. After years of intensive White House stonewalling, the Washington Post revealed documents proving that Dick Cheney's 2001 energy task force involved secret meetings with major oil company executives (Chevron, Exxon Mobil, Conoco and Shell Oil). This, along with other related scandals (falsified Iraq war intelligence, the Cheney-Libby-Rove-Plame case, 9/11, etc.) thoroughly vindicate those who have accurately chronicled it all. When one finds Peak Oil suddenly the subject of major mainstream news (major magazine stories, daily headlines, books, and even television) and oil giants such as Chevron Texaco putting out expensive advertising and public relations about a worldwide energy shortage and Peak (without ever using the actual phrase), and urging conservation, the writing on the wall is beyond obvious. When California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (whose ties to Big Energy and Enron are well documented) is tapped for a tour of China to sell conservation, it speaks volumes. If this is the voice of Big Oil, the era of oil is over. In a presentation for a Peak Oil-related conference, Mike Ruppert laid out in exhausting detail how the world's key decision makers have been aware of and planning for the Peak Oil crisis as far back as the 1970s, if not even decades earlier. Broadly, these measures include, according to Ruppert: 1. Rationing 2. More coal and nuclear 3. Suspended
[cia-drugs] Re: World at tipping point; oil peak arrives
I believe Lisa Guliani got fed up with the Jew bashing and left Thorn and the show (the Sign of the Times bbs has some followup on this). Thorn then did hid homage to Lisa and decided to hibernate till 2008. The site is up but there is nothing new being added. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what happened to wingtv? - Original Message - From: mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:32 PM Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: World at tipping point; oil peak arrives You being provocative? or do you have one of the short term memories that can't remember anything for more than 30 minutes? Peak oil is bullshit as is Mike Ruppert and all the other shills in Chin's article. If you really want to become ill, you should check out how Fintan Dunne is saying all the cia disinfo agents are taking a powder now that the dems have congress. http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1401 1 Ruppert is gone 2 Wing TV is gone 3 Amanda Keller recants her Atta Testimony I wish I could argue against Fintan's theory; however, like most good scientific theories, it appears to fit the facts and give some basis for predicting future events. I used to think Fintan was full o' crap, but now I'm wondering!!!
[cia-drugs] Re: Bush Silences a Dangerous Witness
Jeez! Bob, You think James Brown and Peter Boyle were silenced also? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerald Ford was a dangerous witness. Maybe he was hung, too. I don't remember hearing about how he died or his circumstances preceding his death. The news has very little space now to cover Saddam Hussein's hanging, thanks to Ford's pre-emptive strike and continuing coverage of his state funeral, another big splash drowning out coverage of Saddam's hanging. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: But the singular figure who could have put the era in its fullest perspective - and provided the most damning evidence about the Bush Family's role - has been silenced for good, dropped through a trap door of a gallows and made to twitch at the end of a noose fashioned from hemp. http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/123006.html Bush Silences a Dangerous Witness By Robert Parry December 30, 2006 Like a blue-blood version of a Mob family with global reach, the Bushes have eliminated one more key witness to the important historical events that led the U.S. military into a bloody stalemate in Iraq and pushed the Middle East to the brink of calamity. The hanging of Saddam Hussein was supposed to be - as the New York Times observed - the triumphal bookend to George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. If all had gone as planned, Bush might have staged another celebration as he did after the end of major combat, posing under the Mission Accomplished banner on May 1, 2003. But now with nearly 3,000 American soldiers killed and the Iraqi death toll exceeding 600,000 by some estimates, Bush may be forced to savor the image of Hussein dangling at the end of a rope a little more privately. Still, Bush has done his family's legacy a great service while also protecting secrets that could have embarrassed other senior U.S. government officials. He has silenced a unique witness to crucial chapters of the secret history that stretched from Iran's Islamic revolution in 1979 to the alleged American-Saudi green light for Hussein to attack Iran in 1980, through the eight years of the Iran-Iraq War during which high-ranking U.S. intermediaries, such as Donald Rumsfeld and Robert Gates, allegedly helped broker supplies of war materiel for Hussein. Hussein now won't be around to give troublesome testimony about how he obtained the chemical and biological agents that his scientists used to produce the unconventional weapons that were deployed against Iranian forces and Iraqi civilians. He can't give his perspective on who got the money and who facilitated the deals. Nor will Hussein be available to give his account of the mixed messages delivered by George H.W. Bush's ambassador April Glaspie before Hussein's 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Was there another American green light or did Hussein just hear what he wanted to hear? Like the climactic scene from the Mafia movie Casino in which nervous Mob bosses eliminate everyone who knows too much, George W. Bush has now guaranteed that there will be no public tribunal where Hussein gives testimony on these potentially devastating historical scandals, which could threaten the Bush Family legacy. That could have happened if Hussein had been turned over to an international tribunal at the Hague as was done with other tyrants, such as Yugoslavia's late dictator Slobodan Milosevic. Instead Bush insisted that Hussein be tried in Iraq despite the obvious fact that the Iraqi dictator would receive nothing close to a fair trial before being put to death. Hussein's hanging followed his trial for executing 148 men and boys from the town of Dujail in 1982 after a foiled assassination attempt on Hussein and his entourage. Hussein's death effectively moots other cases that were supposed to deal with his alleged use of chemical weapons to kill Iraqi civilians and other crimes that might have exposed the U.S. role. [For details on what Hussein might have revealed, see Robert Parry's Secrecy Privilege or Consortiumnews.com's Missing U.S.-Iraq History or The Secret World of Robert Gates.] Thrill of the Kill Some observers think that Bush simply wanted the personal satisfaction of seeing Hussein hanged, which would not have happened if he had been sent to the Hague. As Texas governor, Bush sometimes took what appeared to be perverse pleasure at his power to execute prisoners. In a 1999 interview with conservative writer Tucker Carlson for Talk magazine, Bush ridiculed convicted murderer Karla Faye Tucker and her unsuccessful plea to Bush to spare her life. Asked about Karla Faye Tucker's clemency appeal, Bush mimicked what he claimed was the condemned woman's message to him. With pursed lips in mock desperation, [Bush said]: 'Please don't kill me.' But a
[cia-drugs] Re: The Vatican Threatens Olmert with Holocaust
if you have read anything by ostrovsky, then you know that neither the italians nor the israelis are that dumb. does the term false flag ring a bell? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, norgesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE VATICAN THREATENS OLMERT WITH HOLOCAUST by Barry Chamish Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:09 AM How could such a palpable hint of mass murder be so ignored? Please read the following: http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm? newsid=17596728BRD=2737PAG=461dept_id=585832rfi=6newsid=17596728 BRD=2737PAG=461dept_id=585832rfi=6 Italian Guards Leave Posts At Jewish, Israeli Institutions In Rome Italian police guards have been withdrawn, without warning, from Israeli and Jewish institutions in Rome. About 10 days ago, without warning or explanation, the police cars that had been permanently stationed for over 10 years outside the El Al office in Rome, at Jewish community offices, the Jewish school and the synagogues throughout the city, suddenly disappeared - at all times on the eve of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's visit to the city, a visit that ended Wednesday night. The surprising step aroused apprehension among Jews in Rome, who have not forgotten the terrorist attack at the synagogue in 1982, when a 2-year-old boy, Stefano Tasha, was killed and 40 people were injured. Since then, the leaders and institutions of the Jewish community have had total protection - until this week. The city's Jews, who prayed last Saturday at 10 synagogues without security guards, fear that history will repeat itself and the next terrorist attack is drawing near. The Jewish school is also a priority target for terrorism. At least that is how it was described in the Italian media only about two months ago, and after angry protests from the Jewish community, it was agreed that the guards would be restored - temporarily. The police headquarters stated that it was intended that the police guards would be returned - perhaps even Thursday morning - to all the places which they had been guarding, but parents told Ma'ariv that they were angry and concerned about the new security instructions. A police car was first stationed outside the El Al office in Rome after the terrorist attack at Fiumicino Airport in 1985, when 16 people were killed and 70 wounded. For the most part, the police car prevented suspicious vehicles from parking there, and the police were instructed to keep a close watch. Now, however, there is no police car there, and it is feared that the El Al office, which is a palpable Israeli symbol, would be an easy target. At present, the Israeli embassy in Rome does not intend to approach the Italian Foreign Ministry and turn the issue into a diplomatic confrontation between the two countries, especially in light of the cordial atmosphere Wednesday at the joint news conference of the two prime ministers. On the other hand, the security officer at El Al is expected to have a meeting with his Italian counterparts in an attempt to reach an agreement. Asked for a reaction, the Israeli embassy in Rome said it does not discuss security matters with the media. The Italian police also refused to comment on why, in the wake of re-evaluations of the security situation by the Italian security establishment, a decision had been made to withdraw the security guards from a list of diplomatic missions, airline offices and other institutions that had been protected for decades. In my previous article now at http://www.thebarrychamishwebsite.com/ I summarized that Olmert was ordered by the Pope to appear in the Vatican. There he was to agree to give the Vatican sovereignty over parts of Mount Zion and to accept the Spanish initiative, replacing the Israeli army in Gaza with soldiers from Catholic Europe. Hoping not to repeat the fiasco of Pres. Katzav's refusal the year before, this year the Vatican promised Olmert a Holocaust. With no police guarding Jewish institutions, it was just a matter of informing the Muslims to get the Jewish blood aflowing. The Bulletin reporter, the reliable David Bedein, completely missed the significance of his scoop. We finally see the power of the Vatican. Life in Rome's little Jewish community would disappear into the blood within a day. The true slaughter would be in France where 7 million angry Muslims would swoop down on the 700,000 Jews without fear of the police. Have we forgotten Protestant Britain? Of course, Britain could repeat its long forgotten Palestine policy of keeping the police away from a massacre of Jews. There may be some outrage, a few delays, but the Jews will lose their security when the police appear halfheartedly, if at all. The mood is 1938. There are more than enough rabid anti-semites to burst the slaughter into reality.
[cia-drugs] Re: The Link below features Robert Deniro, Matt Damon, Milton Bearden - interview by Hardball, Chris Mathews
If this is regarding The Good Shepard then I believe Damon's character is married to Jolie's character. The Good Shepard also touches upon Skull and Bones and its involvement in Intel. Although Damon's character is loosely based on Angleton, it is well known that Angleton was a mediocre student and not a bonesman. Kris recently put out an updated membership list of Skull and Bones. I think the most interesting member to follow is Paul Giamatti (1989) who is the son of Bart Giamatti (baseball commissioner and Yale president). Paul Giamatti has been very active lately and his movie career is taking off - not bad for a guy who is neither very talented nor attractive. From playing Pig's Vomit in Private Parts (the Howard Stern movie) to the manager in Cinderella Man and the lead in SIdeways. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Quechick Barnyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tune in to this great interview: the Movie the Good shepherd, starring Robert DeNiro, Matt Damon, Anglia Jolie, Milton Beardon. Robert DeNiro is a CIA Agent married to Jolieit also portrays some view points about politics and certain points of view can be your own. Q~ [Conspiracies_Revealed] Guests: Robert DeNiro, Matt Damon, Milton Bearden __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Ted Gunderson: A Treatise of Lies
Duncan is the editor/publisher of Nexus. I am sure a perusal of his website would give you a good idea of the kind of information he is involved with. Duncan and I have bumped heads over Mike Ruppert whenever I find something embarrassing to Ruppert. Gunderson, If you have ever listened to one of his interviews, is a bit of a blowhard who is revered in the alternative media; however, as far as I am concerned, he is disinfo. This is pretty much a spontaneous act in which my own view of Gunderson was buttressed by the information Duncan forwarded, so I decided to chime in. Many people here have been participating in the BB since the late nineties, and they are pretty well informed. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Harrison Deckard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, after reading that it would appear that someone's really done their homework. More than homework -- how does one get access to all of these details? Sounds like another rogue FBI/CIA agent on the loose, at least the fact-gathering techbiques and types of information (not to mention how this treatsie is presented) smacks of old-world CIA propaganda. Oh, and I tried sitbot.net -- link doesn't work. Drat, can't verify the original document. I'm not a supporter either way, but the thoroughness of this attack -- replete with many a spurious appeal to authority -- seems a little suspect. --Harrison
[cia-drugs] Re: Timothy McVeigh Gore Vidal
thank you! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, norgesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: mcveigh corresponded extensively with gore vidal before his execution. does anybody have copies of that material? ~ Vidal and the McVeigh Execution On May 5, 2001, Gore Vidal announced that he would attend Timothy McVeigh's execution in Indiana and write a piece about it for Vanity Fair. As it turned out, Vidal did not attend the execution because he didn't have enough time to get to the U.S. from Italy after McVeigh - on Friday, June 8 - abruptly ended his appeals, thus allowing the June 11 execution to take place. Most observers thought McVeigh would get a stay as his appeals worked their way through the courts. For people interested in this issue as it relates to Vidal, I've put together a list of links to stories I've found on the web. Needless to say, if a site takes down its story, then the link will no longer be good. Vidal and McVeigh made contact after Vidal wrote a piece on the drug war and the loss of freedom in America for Vanity Fair in November 1998. Vidal's post-execution piece on McVeigh - which includes excerpts from their correspondence - appears in the September 2001 issue of the magazine. And Vidal's book on the World Trade Center attack has more material about his relationship with McVeigh. Many of the stories that appeared about Vidal's involvement with McVeigh has since been take off the internet (as older stories often are). Here, though, are some links to pieces that remain: The online magazine Salon published this story about Vidal's contact with McVeigh. Writer Justin Raimondo defends Vidal in an essay on antwar.com. Here's a reprint of a Washington Post article on the subject. A story on the BBC's web site depicts an execution chamber along with photos of Vidal and McVeigh. This report appeared in the Brisith newspaper The Guardian USA Today published a story on Vidal and McVeigh The liberal web site Fantastic Forum supports Vidal in his efforts to explain McVeigh (this will open as a PDF file in a new window). Vidal defends McVeigh at the Edinburgh Book Festival, as reported in The Guardian. Or you can read the actual interview from the festival. The Russian newspaper Pravda ran this piece in English about Vidal and McVeigh. This Reuters story shares Vidal's view that McVeigh had help in doing what he did. In this piece, Vidal casts McVeigh as a hero, the author says, not quite accurately. On a related matter, here is a list of articles that examine Vidal's views on the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the World Trade Center. THE GORE VIDAL INDEX by Harry Kloman The Gore Vidal Index is the most comprehensive Vidal site on the Internet. http://www.pitt.edu/~kloman/vidalframe.html An essay on Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace: The Newest World Order The World Trade Center Attack And Vidal's Writing on the Subject http://www.pitt.edu/~kloman/attack.html Vidal and the McVeigh Execution http://www.pitt.edu/~kloman/mcveigh.html
[cia-drugs] Re: response to hopsicker
Dan, Thanks for addressing this stuff. I do not think anybody gives a lot of consideration to the narcowar angle. It is taboo - just like white slavery and pedophilia. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i too was/am puzzled about why bush didn't make pr hay out of the assassination attempt. the only answer i've been able to come up with is that the attack was so almost completely successful in decimating the constitutional line of succession that bush et co were scared shitless. also, sorry, but to think the massoud hit was anything other than an attack by his chief enemy seems to me to be ridiculous. in re al qaeda and the cia: one of two things is the case. either a) someone in the whitehouse picked up a phone and said, hey, big o! what it is! we need a little help! or: b) knowing the u.s. had already begun to insert spec forces into afghanistan in the summer of 2001, as revealed by woodward in his first book after 9/11, they struck first. since im no more privy to the answer to that than anyone else, i prefer b, for many reasons. 1 occam's razor. 2. extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 3. it makes a hell of a lot more sense. i don't know about the terror drills. i DO know that, contrary to ruppert's nattering, it was NOT NORAD but the FAA which dropped the ball. also, pre-9/11, the FAA routinely protected the hijackers, or rather, they protected the op they were participating in. finally, there seems to be quite a lack of rigorous thought in some of the other questions here. IF there was something amiss in the collapse of the buildings, THEN the first scientists to be all over it would not be red state dickwads from texas tech and utah state, but from schools so affected, say, colombia, that they couldn't be silenced, or from blue states that really hate bush, say, at harvard. as for rodriguez, tarpley, etc: i again point to the logical assertion that we are dealing with an EITHER/OR proposition. and since, in the five fucking years since 9/11, there has been not a SHRED of real evidence to the contrary, i again assert that the 9/11 truth movement is disinformation designed to lead questioning away from certain obvious and highly inconvenient facts about the heroin trafficking the americans who were housing atta were at that same time involved in. if that's not a big enough or dirty enough conspiracy for you, then by all means continue nattering on. daniel --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: I guess William Rodriguez is just a big lying sack of shit! He was by no means some armchair jerkoff on a mission when he arrived at work on the morning of 911 and began his day trying to save the life of some maintenance worker who was blown up in the basement of the north tower about a minute before Atta's plane plowed into the 90th or so floor Is Webster Tarpley jerking off at his computer? My hat is off to him. I hope I have the desire and drive to do that when I'm his age. And I guess the Silverstein statement is just one of those things. As far as an attempt on Bush on the morning of 911 - if that were the case, then how the fuck could the secret service let him sit there like a bump on a log for a good half hour while planes were flying all over bumblefuck without a flight plan? Wouldn't they have rushed him off to safety? Wouldn't the attempt on his life come across as a very powerful propaganda tool for any and all future actions to be taken against Afghanistan and Al Qaida? There was zero media coverage of this. Why? And I guess physicists like Steven Jones who have basically committed professional suicide in order to pursue the truth are just wasting their time and whacking their wickers in self flagellation! If none of this makes sense. If I am completely off the wall, then I am going to sit down, shut the fuck up, and get out of the way. Good luck and happy hunting. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: in my humble but always-forcefully stated opinion, it's EITHER/OR: either 19 arab suicide hijackers struck one of the most successful blows against a supposedly all-powerful adversary in the history of warfare, OR somebody pushed a button somewhere, and everything went BOOM. this either/or premise seems especially true given that i know, as the result of investigation, and not jerking off at my computer while thinking out loud, that george w bush was the target of an assassination attempt at 6 a.m on the morning of sept. 11 2001. VMANN: agreed, but what do you make of the ANGEL IS NEXT warning touted by webster tarpley, and which seems to explain bush's movements on that day? the assassination
[cia-drugs] Re: response to hopsicker
I guess William Rodriguez is just a big lying sack of shit! He was by no means some armchair jerkoff on a mission when he arrived at work on the morning of 911 and began his day trying to save the life of some maintenance worker who was blown up in the basement of the north tower about a minute before Atta's plane plowed into the 90th or so floor Is Webster Tarpley jerking off at his computer? My hat is off to him. I hope I have the desire and drive to do that when I'm his age. And I guess the Silverstein statement is just one of those things. As far as an attempt on Bush on the morning of 911 - if that were the case, then how the fuck could the secret service let him sit there like a bump on a log for a good half hour while planes were flying all over bumblefuck without a flight plan? Wouldn't they have rushed him off to safety? Wouldn't the attempt on his life come across as a very powerful propaganda tool for any and all future actions to be taken against Afghanistan and Al Qaida? There was zero media coverage of this. Why? And I guess physicists like Steven Jones who have basically committed professional suicide in order to pursue the truth are just wasting their time and whacking their wickers in self flagellation! If none of this makes sense. If I am completely off the wall, then I am going to sit down, shut the fuck up, and get out of the way. Good luck and happy hunting. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in my humble but always-forcefully stated opinion, it's EITHER/OR: either 19 arab suicide hijackers struck one of the most successful blows against a supposedly all-powerful adversary in the history of warfare, OR somebody pushed a button somewhere, and everything went BOOM. this either/or premise seems especially true given that i know, as the result of investigation, and not jerking off at my computer while thinking out loud, that george w bush was the target of an assassination attempt at 6 a.m on the morning of sept. 11 2001. VMANN: agreed, but what do you make of the ANGEL IS NEXT warning touted by webster tarpley, and which seems to explain bush's movements on that day? the assassination of the leader of the northern alliance the previous friday was accomplished in the same way that this attempt was made. why, in your view, did they pull building 7? it thus seems logical that it was the monumental stupidity, arrogance, and incompetence of the administration of the worst president in american history that is the cause of the successful attack, and not an unproven plot. VMANN: what's your view of the alleged NORAD stand down? and the numerous drills that were being conducted that day? also, the FBI seems to have spiked numerous investigations BEFORE the attacks, to enable them to happen. just as afterward, they seem to have been actively covering up. is this because of the saudi connection? bush did sign W199 (EYE) to protect the bin ladins, who are saudis. also, what is your response to the warnings recieved by the mayor of san francisco, and the seeming warning to ashcroft, who stopped flying commercial before the attacks. and the general who begged off duty for that morning? afterwards, these same individuals conspired to cover-up the complicity of their administration's largest source of revenue and succor, the SAUDIS, in the funding of the attack. lost in all the 9/11 truth bullshit are a few simple facts. if the attack was premeditated to facilitate and justifiy an invasion of iraq, the desperately incompetent planning for securing that country and its oil afterwards would have received far more attention than it did. VMANN: well, i think that the invasion of afghanistan was more pressing than iraq at the time. many people seem to be of the opinion that the real goal in iraq is fragmentation and expen$ive low intensity conflict. in contrast, THE biggest geopolitical result of the 9/11 attack has been the removal of u.s. troops from saudi arabia, which was promised before they arrived by the first pres bush, but which the u.s. never quite got around to doing afterwards. in fact, this is the only instance since ww2 when u.s. troops have left a country they occupied. VMANN: is that more significant than the military involvement (and subsequent poppy cultivation) in afghanistan and the enormous transfer of wealth into the coffers of the carlyle group, bechtel, halliburton, blackwater, etc for military expenditures? finally, in addition to the eminently believable eyewitness testimony about the pentangon being hit by a superbly-flown boeing aircraft which i believe had a saudi military pilot at the controls, a close watching of the two french brothers documentary on the wtc attack reveals that those on the ground were actually surprised that wt7 stood AS LONG AS IT DID!
[cia-drugs] Re: McVeigh Video Destroys OKC Bombing Official Story
mcveigh corresponded extensively with gore vidal before his execution. does anybody have copies of that material? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Joseph Watson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: [infowarsnews] McVeigh Video Destroys OKC Bombing Official Story McVeigh Video Destroys OKC Bombing Official Story Shows McVeigh was in military receiving instruction in explosives and demolition over a year after official story says he was discharged, whistleblower harassed for years while unknowingly in possession of bombshell tape Paul Joseph Watson Alex Jones Prison Planet Monday, December 18, 2006 A video that shows Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh at a U.S. military base that specializes in explosives and demolition training over a year after he supposedly left the army puts the official story of the April 19 1995 federal building bombing under serious doubt and mandates a re-opening of an investigation into the terror attack that killed 168 people. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/181206mcveighvideo.h tm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 12/18/2006
[cia-drugs] Re: Hopsicker on the controlled demolition theorists
If daniel does not see that WTC7 was controlled demolition, then he can go f##k himself. WTC1 and 2 collapsed faster than the rate at which a free falling object would cover the same distance. You cannot get that result without a lot of help; that help cannot be in the form of low temperature fires that were minimal at best. Evidence of thermate/thermite melting on critical structural members can be viewed in films of the buildings prior to the collapse; these films are freely available on Youtube, Google video and Scholars for 911 Truth. Nobody other than disinfo artists are interested in outlandish theories that invite ridicule and muddy the waters. However, the physics of what happened on 911 must conform to scientific laws that do not change. The energy of the planes hitting the towers plus the release of the potential energy associated with the mass of the towers collapsing from nearly a quarter of a mile in altitude is not consistent with the effects witnessed that day. If flying planes into buildings were an efficient way to produce an in the footprint collapse of office buildings, then controlled demolition companies the world over would be snapping up retired jet planes from airline graveyards and refitting them instead of spending all that time and money on demo teams, det cord, timers and shaped charge explosives. In any event, Daniel has been investigating Atta and his intel/drug smuggling buddies. What the hell does he know about controlled demolition and the engineering problems associated with it. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/12/hopsicker-on-controlled- demolition.html Friday, December 15, 2006 Hopsicker on the controlled demolition theorists In a couple of previous posts, in the comments section, I once more confronted the ne'er-say-die advocates of the controlled demolition theory of the World Trade Center disaster. I make no secret of my hostility toward such theorists. If you're new here, turn to the third column and scroll down to the little cartoon featuring my dog; those two panels should explain my stance. (But please understand that, in reality, the pooch eats like royalty, even on days when I'm doing PBJ.) Daniel Hopsicker -- who, for some years now, has done the best investigative work on 9/11-related issues -- sent me a letter containing his own response to the CD proponents. With his permission, I will here reprint his words. A word of warning: If you think I have a fearsome snarl, wait 'til you see this guy's fangs...! I can understand his anger, since he has devoted his energies to an area of investigation where bad theories, bad science, and some outright lies threaten to overwhelm good research. Daniel's words will come after the jump. (He asked me to edit, not knowing that I'm a notoriously heavy editor.) (To read the rest, click Permalink below) I recently got to witness first-hand why one researcher suggested the 9/11 Truth Movement might more accurately be called the 9/11 UFO Cult, due to the presence of an absurdly-large contingent of people with truly bizarre belief systems. One such individual, in an email bristling with hostility, recently demanded I admit that explosives had been placed in the World Trade Center before the attack. Otherwise, I must perforce immediately explain to him how terrorists could possibly have made WTC Building 7 fall. I'm sure you've met the same fate. And I'm afraid I was rather, um, intemperate in the use of capital letters in my response: I UNCOVER MORE FACTS -- NOT OPINIONS OR SPECULATION -- ABOUT 9/11 EVERY MONTH THAN THE ENTIRE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT HAS DURING THE ENTIRE COURSE OF ITS KHASHOGGI-FUNDED HISTORY. You say they knew the attack was coming and they didn't do a thing to stop it. If you believe that, FIND THE FUCKING EVIDENCE AND I'LL BE THE FIRST TO CONGRATULATE YOU. It's NOT altogether inconceivable that you're right, and that they let it happen. But the MOST that can be said about that bit of speculation is that it remains to be seen. And that is a far cry from you 9/11 truth goons, who uniformly find it difficult to conceive of 19 Arab men hating us enough to blow themselves up. If there weren't hundreds, no THOUSANDS of Arab suicide bombers, there might be a rationale for questioning the motives of the 19 hijackers. But there isn't. The reason the govt is covering up, based on evidence I uncovered, and not on bullshit speculation, is that during the SAME month that Atta arrived to attend his flight school, the OWNER of the flight school had his Lear jet confiscated by DEA agents with submachine guns, who found 43 pounds of heroin on board. That's not speculation. That's fact. And it is to OBSCURE that fact that Adnan Khashoggi's minions started spreading money around to scumbags and refugees from Benny Hinn
[cia-drugs] Re: Hopsicker on the controlled demolition theorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVzQfa_V1jw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVzQfa_V1jw --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometime folks see the dialectic, sometimes they step right into it. Peace, K On Dec 16, 2006, at 5:55 AM, mark urban wrote: If daniel does not see that WTC7 was controlled demolition, then he can go f##k himself. WTC1 and 2 collapsed faster than the rate at which a free falling object would cover the same distance. You cannot get that result without a lot of help; that help cannot be in the form of low temperature fires that were minimal at best. Evidence of thermate/thermite melting on critical structural members can be viewed in films of the buildings prior to the collapse; these films are freely available on Youtube, Google video and Scholars for 911 Truth. Nobody other than disinfo artists are interested in outlandish theories that invite ridicule and muddy the waters. However, the physics of what happened on 911 must conform to scientific laws that do not change. The energy of the planes hitting the towers plus the release of the potential energy associated with the mass of the towers collapsing from nearly a quarter of a mile in altitude is not consistent with the effects witnessed that day. If flying planes into buildings were an efficient way to produce an in the footprint collapse of office buildings, then controlled demolition companies the world over would be snapping up retired jet planes from airline graveyards and refitting them instead of spending all that time and money on demo teams, det cord, timers and shaped charge explosives. In any event, Daniel has been investigating Atta and his intel/drug smuggling buddies. What the hell does he know about controlled demolition and the engineering problems associated with it. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/12/hopsicker-on-controlled- demolition.html Friday, December 15, 2006 Hopsicker on the controlled demolition theorists In a couple of previous posts, in the comments section, I once more confronted the ne'er-say-die advocates of the controlled demolition theory of the World Trade Center disaster. I make no secret of my hostility toward such theorists. If you're new here, turn to the third column and scroll down to the little cartoon featuring my dog; those two panels should explain my stance. (But please understand that, in reality, the pooch eats like royalty, even on days when I'm doing PBJ.) Daniel Hopsicker -- who, for some years now, has done the best investigative work on 9/11-related issues -- sent me a letter containing his own response to the CD proponents. With his permission, I will here reprint his words. A word of warning: If you think I have a fearsome snarl, wait 'til you see this guy's fangs...! I can understand his anger, since he has devoted his energies to an area of investigation where bad theories, bad science, and some outright lies threaten to overwhelm good research. Daniel's words will come after the jump. (He asked me to edit, not knowing that I'm a notoriously heavy editor.) (To read the rest, click Permalink below) I recently got to witness first-hand why one researcher suggested the 9/11 Truth Movement might more accurately be called the 9/11 UFO Cult, due to the presence of an absurdly-large contingent of people with truly bizarre belief systems. One such individual, in an email bristling with hostility, recently demanded I admit that explosives had been placed in the World Trade Center before the attack. Otherwise, I must perforce immediately explain to him how terrorists could possibly have made WTC Building 7 fall. I'm sure you've met the same fate. And I'm afraid I was rather, um, intemperate in the use of capital letters in my response: I UNCOVER MORE FACTS -- NOT OPINIONS OR SPECULATION -- ABOUT 9/11 EVERY MONTH THAN THE ENTIRE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT HAS DURING THE ENTIRE COURSE OF ITS KHASHOGGI-FUNDED HISTORY. You say they knew the attack was coming and they didn't do a thing to stop it. If you believe that, FIND THE FUCKING EVIDENCE AND I'LL BE THE FIRST TO CONGRATULATE YOU. It's NOT altogether inconceivable that you're right, and that they let it happen. But the MOST that can be said about that bit of speculation is that it remains to be seen. And that is a far cry from you 9/11 truth goons, who uniformly find it difficult to conceive of 19 Arab men hating us enough to blow themselves up. If there weren't hundreds, no THOUSANDS of Arab suicide bombers, there might be a rationale for questioning the motives of the 19 hijackers. But there isn't. The reason the govt is covering up, based on evidence I uncovered, and not on bullshit
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[cia-drugs] Re: BREAKING: The 9/11 Bounced Check-Mossad-Russian Spy-Marc Rich-Bush-Gary Best Inc Black Ops-AWB-Carlyle
Tom Heneghan That is all you need to know. another steamy pile off bullshit like the one about bush being indicted by fitzgerald. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this Exhibit the noted U.S. KGB double agent Wildcard aka Lt. Vreeland, is fingered as the intermediary for U.S. Naval Intelligence that will complete the necessary financial payments aka business deal which is suitable for American officials with advance knowledge of Sept. 11th. In fact Udday Hussein discusses the use of Osama Bin Laden as the U.S./Russian 9-11 patsy. http://orlandomary.twoday.net/stories/3012155/ Freitag, 1. Dezember 2006 BREAKING: The 9/11 Bounced Check-Mossad-Russian Spy-Marc Rich-Bush- Gary Best Inc Black Ops-AWB-Carlyle - - - BACK BREAKING NEWS with Tom Heneghan Dec 1/06 THE 9/11 BOUNCED CHECK It can now be reported that the team engaged in the poisoning of the Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko and the current poisoning of the Russian Premier Yegor Gaidar is a mega mossad team in Dublin, Ireland run by noted Marc Rich employee Lorraine Fine. Fine is linked to the Waymark Group with operational HQ out of Las Vegas, Nevada. Fine helped Marc Rich escape arrest in 1993 at the time a U.S. and European Interpol warrant had been issued against Rich. The Warrants are still outstanding. It can now be reported that the poisoning of both Russian spy and former Russian Premier Mr. Yegor Gaidar , dovetails back to the Russian Israeli mob Gary Best Inc. that financed and directed 9/11 aka the slaughter of 3,000 Americans. Note: Reference Stephen Cambone notes, the revenue statement. This Exhibit clearly shows Donald Rumsfeld instructions to kill both Saddam and Bin Laden on Sept. 11th itself. Why would such an operation be discussed under the subject title revenue statement? Answer: Click for Udday letter to Putin. In this Exhibit the noted U.S. KGB double agent Wildcard aka Lt. Vreeland, is fingered as the intermediary for U.S. Naval Intelligence that will complete the necessary financial payments aka business deal which is suitable for American officials with advance knowledge of Sept. 11th. In fact Udday Hussein discusses the use of Osama Bin Laden as the U.S./Russian 9-11 patsy. Accordingly, the poisoning of Russian Spy Alexander Litvinenko and the current poisoning of the former Russian Premier Yegor Gaidar, all both knowledgable of the role of Wildcard in Toronto Canada and the complicity of both U.S./Russian/Israeli and British Intelligence in allowing 9/11 to take place confirms that a 9-11 witness protection program is now mandated. It looks as though the 9-11 co-conspirators are still cleaning up lose ends, aka go massive, sweep it all. PS - It is now clear that both Bin Laden and Saddam were to be paid an endowment or a 9-11 commission check soon after 9-11. Reference Revenue Statement. And it is now clear that the Bush family did not want to pay their patsies and accordingly decided to go to war in Iraq as a diversion to hide the complicity of almost all the parts. PPS - An investigation in Australia titled AWB, is now occuring in which Australian politician Trevor Flugge has fingered US neocon Mossad types Douglas Feith, Mark Zell and noted Dick Cheney stooge Yellowcake Chalabi. They have fingered Australian PM John Howard in discussing the war in Iraq as a fait accomplis, a full year and a half before the attack was ordered. The Australian government was up to their neck in UN Oil Fraud and questionable agricultural wheat subsidies involving wheat contracts linked to the government of Saddam Hussein and trading accounts tied to both the Carlyle Group and the Bin Laden family. All in the Family? All in Treason Bucket. PPPS - It should be noted that the 9-11 Revenue Statement which was to represent payment to the parties were to come from what we call Enron Derivatives which were... MORE Full Text http://cloakanddagger.de/CLOAKANDDAGGER.DE_TOM% 20HENEGHAN/cloak_BB_dec%201.htm THE RUSSIAN SPY-YUKO-NEIL BUSH CONNECTIONS http://cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/IEAR/_BACK%20BREAK% 20NOV30.mp3 39TH PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER ADMITS AL GORE IS THE DULY ELECTED U.S. PRESIDENT http://cloakanddagger.de/CLOAKANDDAGGER.DE_TOM% 20HENEGHAN/cloak_BB_nov29.htm FRENCH INTEL IN POSSESSION OF WD199 SMOKING GUN 9/11 COMMAND ORDER THE TIME IS NOW, THE MATCH IS HOT http://cloakanddagger.de/CLOAKANDDAGGER.DE_TOM% 20HENEGHAN/cloak_BB_nov27n.htm HILLARY, OBAMA IN THE CLOSET RUSE http://cloakanddagger.de/CLOAKANDDAGGER.DE_TOM% 20HENEGHAN/cloak_BB_nov27.htm - - - AL GORE ON THE CRISIS OF DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA WE ARE FACING A MASSIVE ASSAULT ON OUR LIBERTIES http://www.guardian.co.uk/midterms2006/story/0,,1939916,00.html - - - If you are not yet aware, be apprised that International Intelligence Expert, Tom Heneghan, has hundreds of highly credible sources
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: MIKE RUPPERT IN CANADA, RECOVERING - LEGAL NOTICE
FROM RUPPERT'S BLOG: My friends and subscribers know that I have never lied to them. My enemies know that I have never lied to my friends and subscribers. That has been an unbroken bond for 104 consecutive months and I am not about to break it now. END OF BLOG SNIPPET The question becomes - Have you ever lied to the police? Mike fled to Venezuela to await armeggeddon or the global economic crash resulting from peak oil or to get away from fascist America or to get way from the police who wanted to ask some very pointed questions about how his office computers were so carefully vandalized - anal retentive vandals are something of a rarity nowadays. Hopefully he gets better so he can resume his quest for truth, justice and frolicking through the office in black jockey underwear. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Mark Robinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 27, 2006 4:18:56 PM PST Subject: Fwd: MIKE RUPPERT IN CANADA, RECOVERING - LEGAL NOTICE Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 26, 2006 5:32 PM : Nov 26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MIKE RUPPERT IN CANADA, RECOVERING - LEGAL NOTICE MIKE RUPPERT IN CANADA, RECOVERING - LEGAL NOTICE Nov. 26, 2006 http://www.mikeruppert.blogspot.com/ Thanks to contributions and assistance from so many of you, Mike Ruppert was successfully moved from Venezuela to Canada on November 18th. He is currently in the greater Toronto area and receiving medical care and rest thanks to dedicated Peak Oil activists. In addition to his previously described symptoms it has been learned that his adrenal system is severely damaged and there may be toxicity of the liver. He has lost more than 20 pounds in the last ten weeks. Many of you have written suggesting possible poisoning as cause for his known symptoms. We are not pursuing that at the moment because the treatment for the symptoms would not change in either case. Mike has received offers of residency from more than 20 countries on five continents. It will not be possible to further consider those options until his health has stablized which may take several months. In addition, Mike must also turn his attention to a number of legal issues arising from FTW's permanent cessation of operations. LEGAL NOTICE -- Michael Ruppert has every intention of satisfying all legitimate outstanding debts of From The Wilderness Publications, Inc. Those creditors and customers with unfilled orders who have not received refunds are asked to maintain complete records. At a subsquent date, either the FTW web site or Mike Ruppert's blog will post notices about how to make contact and present claims. At present, the Ashland, Oregon offices are vacant and all phone lines have been disconnected. For the time being mail should still be sent to the Ashland address as it is being forwarded to a temporary holding area, pending new arrangements. The first priority is for Mike to recover his health. He will, as soon as he is able, be pursuing legal and financial arrangements to satisfy all obligations but it may take several months before funds become available. Mike sends the following message to all FTW subscribers, friends and fans: Over the past four months many of you have touched me with your generous and loving offers of support and encouragement. You have kept me alive. I have also understood, probably for the first time, how deeply FTW has impacted your lives and the lives of a new and younger generation. As my health and my access to your letters improves I will be writing personally to as many of you as I possibly can. I want to repeat something I have been saying in private emails over the last month. Personally, I am through forever with investigative journalism and public lecturing. I am leaving public life. It is my hope that by continuing to repeat this sincere position that many of the inexplicable difficulties which have dominated my life over the past months will ease. It is time to move on. I spent twenty-seven years as a dedicated public activist and that is something which I am no longer able or inclined to do. The price was ultimately too great. I want to assure all FTW creditors that if it takes the rest of my life we will pay off our debts. Unfortunately, any unfillfilled orders will not and cannot be shipped. We will refund them as soon as we are able. Many of the tragedies and mishaps which marked FTW's final months and necessitated its closure became a perfect storm. How they played out has already been discussed. But I am still alive and plans are underway to have the FTW web site archived in perpetuity on the internet for the
[cia-drugs] Re: hopsicker's thesis
Hopsicker also appeared on Dave Emory's broadcast: http://www.wfmu.org/listen.m3u?show=21073archive=31369 http://www.wfmu.org/listen.m3u?show=21073archive=31369 As regards the notion that Atta and co. did it, I would like to point out the absurd evidence of the pristine passport and the rent a car with the flight manual and other personal effects. And then there are the impossible cell phone calls like the guy who calls his mother and identifies himself by first and last name and asks her if she believes him. These touches are part of the carefully orchestrated orgy of evidence that begins to make the careful investigator's bullshit antennae quiver. Suicide bombers arise from a milieu of misery and hopelessness. The honor and freedom of the suicide is a form of release. This is just not the case with Atta and his friends. Drug smuggling, clubbing, drinking, cocaine, gambling boats, swinging call girls and intelligence connections are not generally the kinds of things one finds in background checks of a typical suicide bomber. The Kamikaze mind set requires the stability of religious conviction and, perhaps, a great personal loss like that of a father, mother, wife, husband, brother, sister or best friend at the hands of one's enemy. A personal statement is also expected. Where are the 19 videos of each hijacker in ceremonial garb decrying the great satan? I am not convinced of the prossional ability of the pilots of the four craft. Were they capable of performing such complex manoeuvers? Did they manage to get Norad to look the other way? Did they change the rules so only the SecDef could order a shoot down? Did they know about the military exercises taking place at the same time as their event? Did they check in with the Pakistani school boy in Brooklyn who told his teacher the week prior to 9/11/2001 that those towers wont be there next week? Daniel is a great investigator; however, he labors in obscurity and it ain;t easy to be middle aged with limited financial prospects. I bite my tongue as I say it, but is it possible that he is purposefully wrong? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hopsicker's thesis is that atta and the boyz really did physically pilot the planes into the buildings. his reasoning is that: 1: atta was a psychopath who was very emotionally and characterologically capable of having done so. 2: the accent amanda keller performed in imitation of atta was the same accent on the flight tapes. 3: when people think of suicide bombs in the middle east, they dont question the authenticity of whether the bomber was really the bomber. i agree with hopsicker's first statement here. atta was surely a psychopath. the second statement is not in itself compelling, but along with other evidence, could bolster the overall position. however, the third statement is just no longer the case. especially since the 7/7 bombings and the madrid bombings. and such books as 9/11 SYNTHETIC TERROR: MADE IN THE USA and videos such as alex jones's TERRORSTORM. we now understand false flag terror to be business as usual. another part of hopsicker's thesis is that atta and the boyz were part of a CIA protected drug operation. i think that's beyond question. vigilius haufniensis
[cia-drugs] Re: hopsicker's thesis
So let's just put a finer point on it: did Atta know he was just a patsy and go along with it anyway? or was he under the impression that his op was something else and he learned a bit too late that he was going all the way? I think it is an important distinction, because it really defies logic to have Atta doing this act with the idea in mind that he was committing suicide to assist a bunch of intel/drug smuggler types in their covert op. A suicide is a tremendously poignant act. Generally, some kind of ceremony precedes it. You do not go to a strip club and leave a Koran on the bar if you're about to meet Allah for breakfast. Slaughtering kittens is neither a necessary nor sufficient precedent to committing suicide by jet plane. So, any way, Kris, who is Raoul? Hilliard, Bohringer, or Dekkers? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have ya'll read Dr. Pepper's books on the King assassination and then also Torbitt Document, Man Who Knew Too Much, et al.? Ops have many teams. According to Pepper's information, which is in accord with other overviews of operational capabilities and protocol, there were several Special Forces teams present, there were shooter teams (they didn't fire) and surveillance teams (taking pix, etc.). Now these military -deep teams would be backing-up, etc., the spook-deep team of the real shooter, and also included in the deep team are operatives concerned with the patsy and the patsy's bread- crumbs, both left-behinds, whooshed under the rugs and the laid-outs to-be- found. Ops have patsies, misdirection and worked-up bona fides. Peace, K On Nov 18, 2006, at 6:36 AM, mark urban wrote: Hopsicker also appeared on Dave Emory's broadcast: http://www.wfmu.org/listen.m3u?show=21073archive=31369 As regards the notion that Atta and co. did it, I would like to point out the absurd evidence of the pristine passport and the rent a car with the flight manual and other personal effects. And then there are the impossible cell phone calls like the guy who calls his mother and identifies himself by first and last name and asks her if she believes him. These touches are part of the carefully orchestrated orgy of evidence that begins to make the careful investigator's bullshit antennae quiver. Suicide bombers arise from a milieu of misery and hopelessness. The honor and freedom of the suicide is a form of release. This is just not the case with Atta and his friends. Drug smuggling, clubbing, drinking, cocaine, gambling boats, swinging call girls and intelligence connections are not generally the kinds of things one finds in background checks of a typical suicide bomber. The Kamikaze mind set requires the stability of religious conviction and, perhaps, a great personal loss like that of a father, mother, wife, husband, brother, sister or best friend at the hands of one's enemy. A personal statement is also expected. Where are the 19 videos of each hijacker in ceremonial garb decrying the great satan? I am not convinced of the prossional ability of the pilots of the four craft. Were they capable of performing such complex manoeuvers? Did they manage to get Norad to look the other way? Did they change the rules so only the SecDef could order a shoot down? Did they know about the military exercises taking place at the same time as their event? Did they check in with the Pakistani school boy in Brooklyn who told his teacher the week prior to 9/11/2001 that those towers wont be there next week? Daniel is a great investigator; however, he labors in obscurity and it ain;t easy to be middle aged with limited financial prospects. I bite my tongue as I say it, but is it possible that he is purposefully wrong? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefulnerd@ wrote: hopsicker's thesis is that atta and the boyz really did physically pilot the planes into the buildings. his reasoning is that: 1: atta was a psychopath who was very emotionally and characterologically capable of having done so. 2: the accent amanda keller performed in imitation of atta was the same accent on the flight tapes. 3: when people think of suicide bombs in the middle east, they dont question the authenticity of whether the bomber was really the bomber. i agree with hopsicker's first statement here. atta was surely a psychopath. the second statement is not in itself compelling, but along with other evidence, could bolster the overall position. however, the third statement is just no longer the case. especially since the 7/7 bombings and the madrid bombings. and such books as 9/11 SYNTHETIC TERROR: MADE IN THE USA and videos such as alex jones's TERRORSTORM. we now understand false flag terror
[cia-drugs] Re: hopsicker's thesis
If book comes down on the side of Atta not knowing his fate, then why is Daniel short stroking the concept of Atta being capable committing suicide by Boeing jet? When Dan does that, I get the impression he is trying to ingratiate himself with more mainstream thought on 911 - perhaps get a few Freepers to pony up for his books or videos. However, the angle of drug smuggling and the concept of 911 being a turf fight between warring drug syndicates is so far afield that I do not believe it has registered on most peoples' radar. I think it is high time I open that bottle of Cabernet with the dedication from Alan Greenspan and reread Delmart Vreeland's prison bound warning note that predated 911. Let one happen, stop the rest! Is Daniel LIHOP or MIHOP? In cia- [EMAIL PROTECTED], RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quien sabe? Book would be that he wouldn't. Book also says to use foreigners as front men as much as possible. Lead into the abyss. With the FBI running open cover-up, the media pliant and paid for, it fairly well greased. To me those questions are kinda of philosophical, he/they played the patsy role, whether they knew or not, makes little difference at the end of the day. I have no doubt that the planes were remote- controlled and and many of the hijackers were not whomever their ID said they were. Who won the War? Peace, K On Nov 18, 2006, at 7:06 PM, mark urban wrote: So let's just put a finer point on it: did Atta know he was just a patsy and go along with it anyway? or was he under the impression that his op was something else and he learned a bit too late that he was going all the way? I think it is an important distinction, because it really defies logic to have Atta doing this act with the idea in mind that he was committing suicide to assist a bunch of intel/drug smuggler types in their covert op. A suicide is a tremendously poignant act. Generally, some kind of ceremony precedes it. You do not go to a strip club and leave a Koran on the bar if you're about to meet Allah for breakfast. Slaughtering kittens is neither a necessary nor sufficient precedent to committing suicide by jet plane. So, any way, Kris, who is Raoul? Hilliard, Bohringer, or Dekkers? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd roadsend@ wrote: Have ya'll read Dr. Pepper's books on the King assassination and then also Torbitt Document, Man Who Knew Too Much, et al.? Ops have many teams. According to Pepper's information, which is in accord with other overviews of operational capabilities and protocol, there were several Special Forces teams present, there were shooter teams (they didn't fire) and surveillance teams (taking pix, etc.). Now these military -deep teams would be backing-up, etc., the spook-deep team of the real shooter, and also included in the deep team are operatives concerned with the patsy and the patsy's bread- crumbs, both left-behinds, whooshed under the rugs and the laid-outs to- be- found. Ops have patsies, misdirection and worked-up bona fides. Peace, K On Nov 18, 2006, at 6:36 AM, mark urban wrote: Hopsicker also appeared on Dave Emory's broadcast: http://www.wfmu.org/listen.m3u?show=21073archive=31369 As regards the notion that Atta and co. did it, I would like to point out the absurd evidence of the pristine passport and the rent a car with the flight manual and other personal effects. And then there are the impossible cell phone calls like the guy who calls his mother and identifies himself by first and last name and asks her if she believes him. These touches are part of the carefully orchestrated orgy of evidence that begins to make the careful investigator's bullshit antennae quiver. Suicide bombers arise from a milieu of misery and hopelessness. The honor and freedom of the suicide is a form of release. This is just not the case with Atta and his friends. Drug smuggling, clubbing, drinking, cocaine, gambling boats, swinging call girls and intelligence connections are not generally the kinds of things one finds in background checks of a typical suicide bomber. The Kamikaze mind set requires the stability of religious conviction and, perhaps, a great personal loss like that of a father, mother, wife, husband, brother, sister or best friend at the hands of one's enemy. A personal statement is also expected. Where are the 19 videos of each hijacker in ceremonial garb decrying the great satan? I am not convinced of the prossional ability of the pilots of the four craft. Were they capable of performing such complex manoeuvers? Did they manage to get Norad to look the other way? Did they change the rules so only the SecDef could order a shoot down? Did they know about the military exercises taking
[cia-drugs] Re: Peak Oil Theory - World Running Out of Oil Soon - Is Faulty; Could Distort Policy Energy Debate
Jeez! Somebody should get this to Mike Ruppert straight away so he can evaluate it and pre-chew it for us soft skulls who need spoon feeding - Right, Duncan? In any event, if you ever get a chance to view the videos on Len Osanic's Fletcher Prouty CD, you will see a 9 minute video of Prouty discussing how Oil is the second most abundant liquid on earth; that it is not the result of decaying organic matter, and that back in the late 19th century, the Rockefellers had a Swiss based meeting of scientists convened in which oil was declared a fossil fuel. One of the most interesting facts Prouty points out is that fossils have never been found at depths beyond 16,000 feet yet oil is found as deep as 28,000 feet. Maybe mister black underwear prancing with a sledgehammer (Ruppert the purveyor of Peak Oil) will finally admit that his carefully constructed world view is wrapped in a tissue of lies. Duncan, I hope this qualifies as small minded enough to warrant a reply. Please climb down from your lofty perch in the heavens and deign to answer. Mark --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cera.com/aspx/cda/public1/news/pressReleases/pressReleaseDe tails.aspx?CID=8444 Peak Oil Theory - World Running Out of Oil Soon - Is Faulty; Could Distort Policy Energy Debate November 14, 2006 Correct Model for Post-2030 Oil Supply is Undulating Plateau In contrast to a widely discussed theory that world oil production will soon reach a peak and go into sharp decline, a new analysis of the subject by Cambridge Energy Research Associates (CERA) finds that the remaining global oil resource base is actually 3.74 trillion barrels -- three times as large as the 1.2 trillion barrels estimated by the theory's proponents -- and that the peak oil argument is based on faulty analysis which could, if accepted, distort critical policy and investment decisions and cloud the debate over the energy future. Complete Press Release CAMBRIDGE, Mass., November 14, 2006 - In contrast to a widely discussed theory that world oil production will soon reach a peak and go into sharp decline, a new analysis of the subject by Cambridge Energy Research Associates (CERA) finds that the remaining global oil resource base is actually 3.74 trillion barrels -- three times as large as the 1.2 trillion barrels estimated by the theory's proponents -- and that the peak oil argument is based on faulty analysis which could, if accepted, distort critical policy and investment decisions and cloud the debate over the energy future. The global resource base of conventional and unconventional oils, including historical production of 1.08 trillion barrels and yet-to-be-produced resources, is 4.82 trillion barrels and likely to grow, CERA Director of Oil Industry Activity Peter M. Jackson writes in Why the Peak Oil Theory Falls Down: Myths, Legends, and the Future of Oil Resources. The CERA projection is based on the firm's analysis of fields currently in production and those yet-to-be produced or discovered. The 'peak oil' theory causes confusion and can lead to inappropriate actions and turn attention away from the real issues, Jackson observes. Oil is too critical to the global economy to allow fear to replace careful analysis about the very real challenges with delivering liquid fuels to meet the needs of growing economies. This is a very important debate, and as such it deserves a rational and measured discourse. This is the fifth time that the world is said to be running out of oil, says CERA Chairman Daniel Yergin. Each time -- whether it was the 'gasoline famine' at the end of WWI or the 'permanent shortage' of the 1970s -- technology and the opening of new frontier areas has banished the specter of decline. There's no reason to think that technology is finished this time. The report emphasizes the importance of focusing on the critical issues. It is not helpful to couch the debate in terms of a superficial analysis of reservoir constraints. It will be aboveground factors such as geopolitics, conflict, economics and technology that will dictate the outcome. The report also points to such aboveground questions as timing and openness to investment, infrastructure development, and the impact of technological change on demand for oil. Undulating Plateau The new report describes CERA's liquids supply outlook as not a view of endless abundance. However, based on a range of potential scenarios and field-by-field analysis, CERA finds that not only will world oil production not peak before 2030, but that the idea of a peak is itself a dramatic but highly questionable image. Global production will eventually follow an undulating plateau for one or more decades
[cia-drugs] Re: EVOLUTION (ruppert)
I think the first signs of Mike's illness were displayed when he decided to jog around his office in his black jockey shorts in front of his female assistant, whom he was atempting to romance. Mike is out of control and there's nobody to pull back on the stick. Hopefully he will meet up with the same amazonian tribesmen who ate Happy Rockefeller's son back in the 60's. Just like his publication hints - he's From The Wilderness. And I hope he returns there never to come back to civilization. Actually, the From The Wilderness Mike was referring to is the one that ascetic holy men would go into in order to hone their spirits and commune with God. I think God has spoken quite clearly: Mike is a fucking wacko without portfolio in the middle of Venezuela. Am I supposed to donate money to that??? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/110706_mcr_evolution.shtml [FTW is really screwed up right now. Everybody knows it and I am not going ignore it. I am in bad shape too. I am not going to hide that either. I have been in Caracas for 14-plus weeks and am facing a serious combination of medical symptoms that were described by Carlos Ruiz in Living with Mike Ruppert in Caracas. They include sudden drops in blood pressure, blood sugar crashes, dizziness, weakness, paresthesis of lips and fingers, small kidney stones, heavy calcification of the urinary tract and prostate, cloudy urine and chronic fatigue. There have been four seizure-like violent tremors. Looking back I can see that the first major signs of my illness started appearing about a year ago. The first tremor happened in January before we moved FTW out of Los Angeles. What is happening now erupted in full about two weeks after I arrived in Caracas. We do not have a firm diagnosis yet. I have just had an expensive series of blood tests run but do not have the results. Both FTW and I need your help although I must tell you that our offices are being vacated next week. My friends and subscribers know that I have never lied to them. My enemies know that I have never lied to my friends and subscribers. That has been an unbroken bond for 104 consecutive months and I am not about to break it now. FTW's time of usefulness on this planet is ending. Michael Kane offered his resignation last week. Having already lost Stan Goff (due to cash shortages) and Jamey Hecht. No one person can carry it on their own. Kane made the right decision for personal reasons and I support it completely. We remain close and trusted friends with deep mutual admiration and respect for each other. The article that follows is my personal tribute to him and the entire generation of talented investigators, researchers and writers that has arisen since 9-11. One of our former writers has expressed concern for his safety in the current political climate of the United States. I know that he is not alone and that many others feel the same. I say to you all, fight the good fight. There is one other person I must specifically thank and that is the angelic, dedicated, and steadfast Jenna Orkin who has researched, blog-managed, and loved me so unconditionally as to affirm my belief in God when all other evidence of Him seemed MIA. To all who have made FTW and its accomplishments possible, whether we parted as friends or not, I offer a gratitude that will endure throughout all time. We changed the world a little bit. My time may be over too and I must now turn my attention to that. One thing we must do, however, is to save the FTW archives as a permanent fixture on the internet for future researchers and try to clean things up before we go. We must also save my personal library of around 250 books. How this came to pass merits only a brief discussion. There are too many details that I just don't know. In the first month after I left the states we had our strongest sales month in (I'm guessing) a year and a half. The organization I hastily put in place before leaving was working. Decisions were made in Ashland to upgrade our store and web site for all the right reasons; chiefly to cut costs by outsourcing our product shipment and warehousing. Many glitches made that process take more than two months and during that time our subscriber-only section was free and often orders could simply not be accepted. It was not that people didn't want to buy. They just couldn't. Sales fell by around 60% and cash flow dried up. I was made fully aware of these details only about two weeks ago. I was out of the loop for these decisions and didn't find out how bad things were until many well-intentioned choices had already been made; choices that could not be changed. The same is true for our long-time agent/publicist Ken Levine. We all owe a debt of gratitude to everyone who wrote for FTW after I left the United States. Some great
[cia-drugs] Re: EVOLUTION (ruppert)
I think the first signs of Mike's illness were displayed when he decided to jog around his office in his black jockey shorts in front of his female assistant, whom he was atempting to romance. Mike is out of control and there's nobody to pull back on the stick. Hopefully he will meet up with the same amazonian tribesmen who ate Happy Rockefeller's son back in the 60's. Just like his publication hints - he's From The Wilderness. And I hope he returns there never to come back to civilization. Actually, the From The Wilderness Mike was referring to is the one that ascetic holy men would go into in order to hone their spirits and commune with God. I think God has spoken quite clearly: Mike is a fucking wacko without portfolio in the middle of Venezuela. Am I supposed to donate money to that??? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/110706_mcr_evolution.shtml [FTW is really screwed up right now. Everybody knows it and I am not going ignore it. I am in bad shape too. I am not going to hide that either. I have been in Caracas for 14-plus weeks and am facing a serious combination of medical symptoms that were described by Carlos Ruiz in Living with Mike Ruppert in Caracas. They include sudden drops in blood pressure, blood sugar crashes, dizziness, weakness, paresthesis of lips and fingers, small kidney stones, heavy calcification of the urinary tract and prostate, cloudy urine and chronic fatigue. There have been four seizure-like violent tremors. Looking back I can see that the first major signs of my illness started appearing about a year ago. The first tremor happened in January before we moved FTW out of Los Angeles. What is happening now erupted in full about two weeks after I arrived in Caracas. We do not have a firm diagnosis yet. I have just had an expensive series of blood tests run but do not have the results. Both FTW and I need your help although I must tell you that our offices are being vacated next week. My friends and subscribers know that I have never lied to them. My enemies know that I have never lied to my friends and subscribers. That has been an unbroken bond for 104 consecutive months and I am not about to break it now. FTW's time of usefulness on this planet is ending. Michael Kane offered his resignation last week. Having already lost Stan Goff (due to cash shortages) and Jamey Hecht. No one person can carry it on their own. Kane made the right decision for personal reasons and I support it completely. We remain close and trusted friends with deep mutual admiration and respect for each other. The article that follows is my personal tribute to him and the entire generation of talented investigators, researchers and writers that has arisen since 9-11. One of our former writers has expressed concern for his safety in the current political climate of the United States. I know that he is not alone and that many others feel the same. I say to you all, fight the good fight. There is one other person I must specifically thank and that is the angelic, dedicated, and steadfast Jenna Orkin who has researched, blog-managed, and loved me so unconditionally as to affirm my belief in God when all other evidence of Him seemed MIA. To all who have made FTW and its accomplishments possible, whether we parted as friends or not, I offer a gratitude that will endure throughout all time. We changed the world a little bit. My time may be over too and I must now turn my attention to that. One thing we must do, however, is to save the FTW archives as a permanent fixture on the internet for future researchers and try to clean things up before we go. We must also save my personal library of around 250 books. How this came to pass merits only a brief discussion. There are too many details that I just don't know. In the first month after I left the states we had our strongest sales month in (I'm guessing) a year and a half. The organization I hastily put in place before leaving was working. Decisions were made in Ashland to upgrade our store and web site for all the right reasons; chiefly to cut costs by outsourcing our product shipment and warehousing. Many glitches made that process take more than two months and during that time our subscriber-only section was free and often orders could simply not be accepted. It was not that people didn't want to buy. They just couldn't. Sales fell by around 60% and cash flow dried up. I was made fully aware of these details only about two weeks ago. I was out of the loop for these decisions and didn't find out how bad things were until many well-intentioned choices had already been made; choices that could not be changed. The same is true for our long-time agent/publicist Ken Levine. We all owe a debt of gratitude to everyone who wrote for FTW after I left the United States. Some great
[cia-drugs] Re: Sean Berlet Reads Here
I still remember when Sean used to shill for big oil saying that they would not benefit from the afghan and iraq invasions, that their profits were down and that they were against the Bush's middle east plans. I guess he looks like a giant asshole right about now and gatekeeperocracy is making sure he gets face time so Amy can keep getting that foundation funding so vital to her mission of injecting zionist poison right into the brains of the dumbed down left wing savants. Chip Berlet is a government paid shill who goes after critics of the establishment. Just ask him if Oswald did the Kennedy hit? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean John Chip Berlet on Democracy Now 11/2/2006, said words I could agree with completely, probably because he heard them here first and at greater levels of detail and attribution. Berlet said today that all across the country grassroots activists and candidate speechwriters have been raising fake issues in a transparent effort to associate Democrats with positions voters can't say yes to and Republicans with positions voters can't say no to. Gay marriage referendum is an example. Stilted, contrived Iraq war positions are another. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=lakoff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36616 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36478 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36477 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36260 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36151 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36101 memes just could pull in enough dumbed-down Manchurian puppet votes to keep a Republican majority for the lame duck. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] remember the untraced puts from just before 911?
REPOST) PUTS FORECAST OCT. SURPRISE? Sunday, October 01, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com INITIAL POST 09.30.06 A faithful reader and commentator, A. Magnus writes the following email, posted to FMNN General Feedback: Do you like October suprises? Is there a big bang coming to hit the markets? If you believe that those in the know use insider information before major events then you might be interested on the HUGE number of October 6th put options for the big indexes. Check out the concentrated puts on the Diamonds DOW Trust (DIA): https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml ?priced=YSID_VALUE_ID=DIA Ditto for the SP Depository Receipts (SPY): https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml ?priced=YSID_VALUE_ID=SPY And the NASDAQ (): https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml ?priced=YSID_VALUE_ID= Even the Market Vectors Gold Miners has significant puts for October 6th: https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml ?priced=YSID_VALUE_ID=GDX Make no mistake - something wicked this way comes, and the smart money has already taken preventative steps. Staff Selections - Links Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: Former Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9/11 Story
Did he raise hell when Wellstone's plane crashed? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, he got the light rail passed here in minneapolis, and it is my understanding that he sent back $800.00 to everyone in minnesota, which had previously been hidden in the comprehensive annual financial report. ventura is a conservative. the good thing about conservative is that theyre not always trying to pass more laws. if the legislature isnt doing anything -that's good. - Original Message - From: mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Former Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9/11 Story Did he have to referee wwf matches while he was governor of Minnesota? Ventura took his mandate and did nothing with it. It is a real pity because he was elected as a kind of oddball novelty, and he could have done some genuine good. Alas! all he did was to pique Ahhnold's ambitions for office. Now the terminator is ruining California. I am sure Ceasar's Palace would gladly employ him as a greeter or something. Maybe he could jump into the Atlantis fountain and catch a fish with his teeth and scare the crap out of the little children. At least Hulk Hogan got a reality TV show. I can see him now wearing a tee shirt that has the following message on it: I was governor of Minnesota and all I got was this stinkin' tee shirt. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis nerdmann@ wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/260906venturaquesti ons.htm Former Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9/11 Story Goes further than ever before, cites Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, NORAD stand down, staged war provocations Paul Joseph Watson Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | September 26 2006 Former Minnesota Governor, actor and wrestling star Jesse Ventura has publicly questioned the official version of events behind 9/11 and gone further than ever before in citing Operation Northwoods and the Gulf of Tonkin as examples of how the government has planned and carried out staged war provocations in the past. Ventura has temporarily left his Baja Mexico surfing lifestyle to lend support to Texas gubernatorial candidate Kinky Friedman. At a press conference yesterday Ventura said that the Republicans and Democrats were destroying our country and its political process. Sporting a beard and dreadlocks, the former Vietnam veteran also criticized the Iraq war. Alex Jones and his film crew were able to set up a last minute interview with Ventura at a San Antonio restaurant after his appearance before a packed house at UTSA. Ventura first stated that he had many unanswered questions about 9/11. The former Governor cited Operation Northwoods, a 1962 Joint Chiefs of Staff plan to stage terror attacks and kill American citizens to start a war with Cuba, as an example of how the U.S. government wanted to kill its own people and blame it on foreign enemies to justify war. Ventura found it painful, having dutifully served himself, that elements within the government would go to such barbaric and deceitful lengths to con its own populace into supporting militarism. Ventura then raised the issue of the Gulf of Tonkin, citing recently released declassified information confirming that American ships were never attacked and the incident was manufactured in order to provide the entree to the Vietnam war. This was particularly unpalatable for Ventura because he joined as a Navy Seal on September 11 1969, fought in Vietnam and lost many friends there. Ventura asked that if the U.S. government were prepared to stage such a gargantuan historical event in terms of its significance in leading a nation to war then, why they would they refrain from doing so again today? Ventura also highlighted 9/11 itself in contrasting the lax response of NORAD air defense to the four commercial airliners on 9/11 compared with the immediate interception of golfer Payne Stewart's Lear Jet in October 1999. Ventura said that the argument that Americans should give up liberty in exchange for security in the war on terror was horrible and that government should never be trusted. He encouraged Americans to be skeptical of anything the government claims in light of their past duplicity. Ventura seemed visibly upset during the interview, calling the American public apathetic, seemingly wanting to say more, and was very cynical that any real investigation would take place having already witnessed the 9/11 Commission's whitewash. Ventura had previously aired his skepticism of the official version of events on Jay Leno and elaborated on a 2004 radio show but the former Governor went further than ever
[cia-drugs] this is either fait accompli agitprop or de sh*t is about to hit the fan
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/18/gardiner-iran/ Just now on CNN, Air Force Col. Sam Gardiner (Ret.) said, We are conducting military operations inside Iran right now. The evidence is overwhelming. Gardiner, who taught at the U.S. Army's National War College, has previously suggested that U.S. forces were already on the ground in Iran. Today he added several additional new points: 1) The House Committee on Emerging Threats recently called on State and Defense Department officials to testify on whether U.S. forces were in Iran. The officials didn't come to the hearing. 2) We have learned from Time magazine today that some U.S. naval forces had been alerted for deployment. That is a major step. 3) The plan has gone to the White House. That's not normal planning. When the plan goes to the White House, that means we've gone to a different state. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] razzle dazzle part one and part two
http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis70.htm CAUTION: THE DIALECTIC PROCESS AT WORK PART 1 By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D. July 3, 2006 NewsWithViews.com Richard Cummings in THE PIED PIPER described the activities of Allard Lowenstein (who worked with the CIA) in Africa, Spain and Portugal. One of the important points he made was that while outwardly the U.S. government was opposing Marxists in Africa, behind the scenes the CIA actually was befriending (funding) them in order gradually to control them or at least cause them not to be so radical. What this actually revealed was the dialectic at work, and South Africa has played an important part in this. In 1891, gold and diamond magnate Cecil Rhodes in South Africa formed his secret Society of the Elect to take the government of the whole world. Part of Rhodes' plan involved selecting Rhodes scholars (e.g., Bill Clinton), and among the members of the Rhodes Trust was the famous author Rudyard Kipling who had swastikas on his early books. Here is reproduced a 1902 letter (note the suggestive words) from Kipling in Capetown, South Africa, to noted author H. G. Wells, who was one of the early Fabian Socialists, with whom Rhodes' people networked. The Fabians wanted gradually to move Britain toward Socialism. At the same time Rhodes was developing his plan, William Whitney of the secret society Skull Bones developed a plan financially to contribute to both major political parties, Democrat and Republican, and then have them alternate power so the public thought it had a choice when it really didn't. This would be in line with the hope of Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown University, Prof. Carroll Quigley, who authored TRAGEDY AND HOPE (1966) using secret records regarding Rhodes' plan. Rhodes' people and members of Skull Bones, all originally well-off financially, have networked with Marxists/Socialists gradually moving the world toward Socialism dialectically playing political liberals against political conservatives who alternate power. This is why there is a 1911 political cartoon by Robert Minor in the ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH showing men of wealth (e.g., John D. Rockefeller, J. P. Morgan, etc.) welcoming Karl Marx (with a book titled Socialism under his arm) to Wall Street. Not long after this cartoon appeared, Marxist theoretician Antonio Gramsci began promoting his plan gradually to capture the cultures of countries rather than taking them over by violent revolutions. This idea of transforming whole cultures fit with Jan Christiaan Smuts' concept of holism. Smuts (along with Sir Abe Bailey, Sir Patrick Duncan, Basil K. Long, Richard Feetham and Sir James Rose- Innes) belonged to Rhodes' Association of Helpers in South Africa. Note here the reproduced letter from Smuts to H. G. Wells stating The next step is to move the political big wigs forward. In his book, HOLISM AND EVOLUTION, Smuts described the foundations of a new order of the universe. He drafted many clauses of the League of Nations, and was one of the drafters of the preamble for the United Nations Charter. Shortly after Smuts' book was published in 1926, H. G. Wells in 1928 wrote THE OPEN CONSPIRACY: BLUE PRINTS FOR A WORLD REVOLUTION. In Wells' EXPERIMENT IN AUTOBIOGRAPHY (1934), he described the goal of the Open Conspiracy as an adequately implemented Liberal Socialism, which will ultimately supply teaching, coercive and directive public services to the whole world, is the immediate task before all rational peoplePlans for political synthesis seem to grow bolder and more extensiveThe New Plan in America to the New Plan in Russia and how are both related to the ultimate World-State? There must be a common faith and law for mankindOnly after a huge cultural struggle can we hope to see the world-state coming into being. The ultimate goal of the power elite is a synthesis of Western Capitalism and Eastern Communism into a World Socialist Government. Powerful financiers had funded the Soviets and in the 1930s funded Hitler's Germany. In 1936, power elite representative John J. McCloy (Council on Foreign Relations chairman 1953-1970) would sit in Hitler's box at the Olympics and in late July 1961 take a friendly swim with Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev in the Black Sea. Just as the Soviets had been funded by the power elite, the Communist Chinese were brought to power by them as well. Actions taken by U.S. General George Marshall after the Second World War helped the Communist Chinese defeat the Nationalist Chinese forces of Chiang Kai- shek, whom the U.S. was supposed to be supporting. The Communist victories in the Soviet Union and China were important to the power elite. According to a 1952 map by the World Association of Parliamentarians for World Government, when the World Government would come into existence, Mongolian (Chinese) forces would be patrolling from Southern
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [IPCUSA] Myth Busters - US TV propaganda attack on implant and mind control victims
Kounter kulture icons throw it back in your face. Penn and Teller, who were considered hip and cool, are used to promulgate the government cover story for 911 and the lone nutter JFK theory. When Penn Gillette yells that only a crazy person would believe in conspiracy theories, he is traumatizing impressionable minds, browbeating them into submission. The Discovery Channel has created American Chopper with the dysfunctional Teutels and Monster Garage with perennial bad boy Jesse james. Mythbusters taps into that northern californian techno geek chic and proffers two unattached heros who gravitate much too close to San Francisco to make homophobes anything but paranoid. That's the rub, by appearing to be educated counterculture, they wear the mantle of authority and come across as honest - so if they say rfid is bullshit, then how can it be anything else. This stuff gets burned right into the adolescent mind and creates a powerful deterrent to errant future thought. And that is what the boys who run things want anyhow. I remember feeling disgust and sadness when Dweezil Zappa hosted that show about fighting robots. I kept thinking how badly Frank had failed. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello IPCUSA, I just watched a propaganda spiel on Myth Busters on tv against the notion there are implant or mind control victims in the US. Myth Busters in general are weak on science, and fairly strong on lab work. This production was noticably different than their usual work, and very weak and limited on lab and field work, and with nothing remotely scientific in the rpesentation. The hatchet job was relatively quick and cheaply produced, a poor quality shoprt rpesentation obviously biased from start to finish, versus looking for the truth or making any effort to find evidence claims of US mind control or unconsensual implantations might sometimes or often be true. In typical large state propaganda, serious issues are avoided, and things which the state sees as weaknesses of the group being attacked are focused upon. For example, the nazis fixated on the semitic nose structure in their attacks on jews (and Cheech and Chong used the exact same nazi parody of a semitic nose in their movie which presented a low ethnic attack on Arabs, one Arab having had a camel wife before etc...). This Myth Busters presentation was true to form in this sense for attacking minority groups with state sponsored or directed propaganda machines. As alledged victims of high technology human rights abuses in the US, we are in fact an opressed minority. This was the first major television propaganda attack upon us I am aware of, there have been some talk show and serial attacks already, but nothing like this I know of until now on US network television. I think this is even like an admission by US government criminals, that as a movement, we are starting to get into the big leagues politically in the US (and we are in the big league already in the former USSR). Many fragments were pulled from various internet sources, and presented as being representative. All the common points the public (already well brain washed by the mass media from 1930's nazi radio to present), would see as indicating the victims movement is not credible. Whoever was behind this, has paid someone to do a lot of reading on the internet, to produce so many diverse claims which could be presented as not credible, and rolling them into one ball and painting us all with this ball of distortions and lies with one brush stroke. One of the regulars on Myth Busters said his source was some male he found on the internet, the impression was given this single source was the source for the data of the program about the victims movement on the internet. There were victims movements before there was anything on the internet. The Moscow Zombies, even a few small groups in the US, and the large victims movement of the army radiation experiments. e US army radiation xperiments are now admitted to by the US government. Previous to this confession the army radiation experiment victims were given the same treatment we are given now, shared delusional complexes etc... I do not believe any one internet source makes all the claims they gave in this Myth Busters production. In science one is supposed to reference ones sources, not just state UCLA library or the internet. Exactly because there can be intentional or accidental distortion, misrepresentation etc... In this spiel they stated something like it must be true because it was on the internet, meaning it must not be true because it was on the internet. There is plenty of false information on the net, just as there is on tv. Much of the true information on the internet, is data and evidence the
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [IPCUSA] Myth Busters - US TV propaganda attack on implant and mind control victims
Kounter kulture icons throw it back in your face. Penn and Teller, who were considered hip and cool, are used to promulgate the government cover story for 911 and the lone nutter JFK theory. When Penn Gillette yells that only a crazy person would believe in conspiracy theories, he is traumatizing impressionable minds, browbeating them into submission. The Discovery Channel has created American Chopper with the dysfunctional Teutels and Monster Garage with perennial bad boy Jesse james. Mythbusters taps into that northern californian techno geek chic and proffers two unattached heros who gravitate much too close to San Francisco to make homophobes anything but paranoid. That's the rub, by appearing to be educated counterculture, they wear the mantle of authority and come across as honest - so if they say rfid is bullshit, then how can it be anything else. This stuff gets burned right into the adolescent mind and creates a powerful deterrent to errant future thought. And that is what the boys who run things want anyhow. I remember feeling disgust and sadness when Dweezil Zappa hosted that show about fighting robots. I kept thinking how badly Frank had failed. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello IPCUSA, I just watched a propaganda spiel on Myth Busters on tv against the notion there are implant or mind control victims in the US. Myth Busters in general are weak on science, and fairly strong on lab work. This production was noticably different than their usual work, and very weak and limited on lab and field work, and with nothing remotely scientific in the rpesentation. The hatchet job was relatively quick and cheaply produced, a poor quality shoprt rpesentation obviously biased from start to finish, versus looking for the truth or making any effort to find evidence claims of US mind control or unconsensual implantations might sometimes or often be true. In typical large state propaganda, serious issues are avoided, and things which the state sees as weaknesses of the group being attacked are focused upon. For example, the nazis fixated on the semitic nose structure in their attacks on jews (and Cheech and Chong used the exact same nazi parody of a semitic nose in their movie which presented a low ethnic attack on Arabs, one Arab having had a camel wife before etc...). This Myth Busters presentation was true to form in this sense for attacking minority groups with state sponsored or directed propaganda machines. As alledged victims of high technology human rights abuses in the US, we are in fact an opressed minority. This was the first major television propaganda attack upon us I am aware of, there have been some talk show and serial attacks already, but nothing like this I know of until now on US network television. I think this is even like an admission by US government criminals, that as a movement, we are starting to get into the big leagues politically in the US (and we are in the big league already in the former USSR). Many fragments were pulled from various internet sources, and presented as being representative. All the common points the public (already well brain washed by the mass media from 1930's nazi radio to present), would see as indicating the victims movement is not credible. Whoever was behind this, has paid someone to do a lot of reading on the internet, to produce so many diverse claims which could be presented as not credible, and rolling them into one ball and painting us all with this ball of distortions and lies with one brush stroke. One of the regulars on Myth Busters said his source was some male he found on the internet, the impression was given this single source was the source for the data of the program about the victims movement on the internet. There were victims movements before there was anything on the internet. The Moscow Zombies, even a few small groups in the US, and the large victims movement of the army radiation experiments. e US army radiation xperiments are now admitted to by the US government. Previous to this confession the army radiation experiment victims were given the same treatment we are given now, shared delusional complexes etc... I do not believe any one internet source makes all the claims they gave in this Myth Busters production. In science one is supposed to reference ones sources, not just state UCLA library or the internet. Exactly because there can be intentional or accidental distortion, misrepresentation etc... In this spiel they stated something like it must be true because it was on the internet, meaning it must not be true because it was on the internet. There is plenty of false information on the net, just as there is on tv. Much of the true information on the internet, is data and evidence the
[cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched
If this happens, then the dollar will no longer be the world's reserve currency. Right now you must pay for your oil in dollars no matter which country you are. If the iranian oil bourse succeeds, then about three quarters of a trillion dollars that is held by foreign countries to buy oil will no longer be needed. The first countries to get rid of their petrodollars will be the luckiest, because as the transactions continue, the dollar will become less and less valuable in terms of its exchange rate. the result will be that our buying power for commodities will drop precipitipusly. our economic engine has depended quite a bit on the petrodollar and the strength it gave our currency. When that ends, america will just be another international beggar nation with a terrible debt jones and a very sophisticated protection racket run by the occupying government. As indvidual citizens, those who do not have the luxury of dealing in other currencies or commodities are going to see their purchasing power diminish at a rate that will simply take their breath away. we will come to know what it was like in 1990 when the soviet union collapsed. imagine being on a fixed income when it takes your total monthly income to buy a weeks worth of food. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, michael cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10-4! Iran has been threatening this since early this year... if they go through with it it just might wreck our economy, which will happen sooner or later anyway, since it's a pyramid scheme based on infinite growth in a finite world, and it's totally dependant on oil, a finite resource. I ask you, if one other country can knock our economy down with one simple maneuver like that, is that an economy we really want to try to hang on to? Nice to join your group! Thanks for having me. Mike (love your name :-)! From: mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:37:33 - -I believe this has more to do with why bush and the neocons want to bomb the shit out of iran than terrorism. -- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis nerdmann@ wrote: http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=380656 Iran's oil bourse to be launched TEHRAN, Sept. 15 (MNA) -- Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri- Hamaneh said here on Friday that all preparatory requirements were arranged for launching the oil stock market in the country. Speaking to the reporters at the Mehrabad International Airport upon arriving in Tehran from an OPEC conference in Vienna, Vaziri-Hamaneh said that all un-subsidized oil products can be offered in this stock market. He also rejected rumors about the preparation of a plan to gradually increase the gasoline price, but added that the cabinet had submitted a bill to the Majlis for importing gasoline. If the bill is ratified, the present condition will continue and rationing will be put into practice later. Hamaneh further noted that the plan to issue fuel debit cards will be finalized within three months. As for the decisions made during that OPEC conference, the minister said that the member countries were quite concerned for the downward trend of oil price, and so decided to maintain the present oil production ceiling. Elsewhere in his remarks, Vaziri-Hamaneh referred to the development of the Azadegan oilfield and said that an agreement has been inked with the Japanese, granting to them a 15-day opening to meet their commitments. He explained the Total Company anyway stresses cooperating with the Japanese and is interested in starting the conduction of project after the cooperation contract is finalized with the Japanese contractor. Answering a question about the development of the Arash oilfield, Iranian oil minister said that an Iranian delegation will head for Kuwait within 7 to10 days, adding that however, Iran and Kuwait are determined to jointly develop their joint oilfield. Hamaneh said that a two-month opening has been also granted to the Chinese contractor to develop Yadavaran oilfield. Elaborating on the development process of the Peace Pipeline, he said the consultant party is supposed to estimate and submit the gas price as soon as possible so that Iran can negotiate it with the Indian and Pakistani ministers. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join
[cia-drugs] Re: Fletcher Prouty and Me
prouty is the one standing to the woman's left (her right as you're looking at the picture) he's playing that slide trombone.--- In cia- [EMAIL PROTECTED], muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two views: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/view/108f? b=1m=so=0 --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit muckblit@ wrote: I was cleaning a closet today and came across an old picture. It shows my first cousin once removed, my mother's mother's brother's son, my mother's first cousin, Web Maxson, and his orchestra, which included Fletcher Prouty. It's a dance orchestra like Guy Lombardi and Glenn Miller. The typed label says,WEB MAXSON and his orchestra featuring Miss.MARTHA and FLETCHER PROUTY. My pick for Prouty would be the clarinet player. Something about his eyes, compared to prouty.org I emailed Len Osanic at prouty.org and asked him which instrument Prouty played. I can't even recognize my cousin but he must be the one holding the baton. His name is on the bass drum and his initials on four clamshell stands that must conceal music sheets. -Bob D Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched
-I believe this has more to do with why bush and the neocons want to bomb the shit out of iran than terrorism. -- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=380656 Iran's oil bourse to be launched TEHRAN, Sept. 15 (MNA) -- Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri-Hamaneh said here on Friday that all preparatory requirements were arranged for launching the oil stock market in the country. Speaking to the reporters at the Mehrabad International Airport upon arriving in Tehran from an OPEC conference in Vienna, Vaziri-Hamaneh said that all un-subsidized oil products can be offered in this stock market. He also rejected rumors about the preparation of a plan to gradually increase the gasoline price, but added that the cabinet had submitted a bill to the Majlis for importing gasoline. If the bill is ratified, the present condition will continue and rationing will be put into practice later. Hamaneh further noted that the plan to issue fuel debit cards will be finalized within three months. As for the decisions made during that OPEC conference, the minister said that the member countries were quite concerned for the downward trend of oil price, and so decided to maintain the present oil production ceiling. Elsewhere in his remarks, Vaziri-Hamaneh referred to the development of the Azadegan oilfield and said that an agreement has been inked with the Japanese, granting to them a 15-day opening to meet their commitments. He explained the Total Company anyway stresses cooperating with the Japanese and is interested in starting the conduction of project after the cooperation contract is finalized with the Japanese contractor. Answering a question about the development of the Arash oilfield, Iranian oil minister said that an Iranian delegation will head for Kuwait within 7 to10 days, adding that however, Iran and Kuwait are determined to jointly develop their joint oilfield. Hamaneh said that a two-month opening has been also granted to the Chinese contractor to develop Yadavaran oilfield. Elaborating on the development process of the Peace Pipeline, he said the consultant party is supposed to estimate and submit the gas price as soon as possible so that Iran can negotiate it with the Indian and Pakistani ministers. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [IPCUSA] - The Current Rapid Slide of Zionism -
Not to mention that Air America is apparently going bankrupt. If you can't afford to keep paying a left gatekeeping zionist like Al Franken, then your strategy of employing Hegelian dialectics to razzle dazzle the rubes is falling flat on its face. I foresee what can only be described as either an apocalyptic vision of a great evil being washed away to be replced by confusion and chaos or a fascist boot being ground ever harder into the collective human face. Somehow, despite losing on many fronts, the criminal elite just find new and better ways to keep skull fucking the rest of us poor bastards. Anybdy check with Fintan Dunne lately? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Shanti Renfrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 13, 2006 9:11:23 AM PDT To: Hotmail Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IPCUSA] - The Current Rapid Slide of Zionism - Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mess of Pottage News] Birthrights for Sale! -- Why Al-Qaeda is a FAKE -- They NEVER go after the RULING CLASS who are CREATING these WARS !!! http://ridad.blogspot.com/2006/09/current-rapid-slide-of- zionism- and-of_13.html The Current RAPID SLIDE of ZIONISM and of the ZIONIST APARTHEID REGIME of ISRAEL by Benjamin Merhav Never before, it seems, has there been such an avalanche of criticism threatening to finally to sweep away zionism - and the zionist apartheid regime of Israel with it - into history's rubbish tip, where zionism belongs, as has been happening since the criminal zionist invasion of and war crimes in Palestine and in Lebanon began this year. The most recent articles, which make up this avalanche, originate far away from the Middle East : one is from the USA, the other is from Argentina. Let us start with the one from Argentina. Republished by axisoflogic.com the article titled, War in the Middle East: A Warning for Argentina, is by Argentinian journalist, Adrian Salbuchi. Here is how the article describes the outcome of the most recent Zionist war crimes in Palestine and in Lebanon, http:// www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_22958.shtml : To traditional hatred Muslim peoples feel towards the State of Israel - - which they perceive as an aggressive intruder in their region, martirizing Palestinians and Lebanese - today we add the overwhelming condemnation of global public opinion against flagrant Israeli barbarism committed in Lebanon and Gaza. They indiscriminately bombed, killed and maimed men, women and children, and used illegal weapons including thousands of banned cluster-bombs and white phosphorus explosives, as UN reports confirm. It was foolish and contradictory that Israel showed-off saying they used precision bombs and intelligent weapons, when the plain truth is that they repeatedly and systematically bombed caravans of refugee-carrying motor vehicles, civilian apartment blocks, schools, hospitals, civilian-filled shelters, and even went so far as to repeatedly bomb UN watchposts in broad daylight, killing their personnel. Either their bombs were not all that intelligent, far worse, these were purposely committed crimes against humanity perpetrated with the aim of spreading terror amongst Israel's enemies, which is a traditional tactic of the Israeli Armed Forces and their predecessor guerrilla organizations. The author, who has done his study of zionism, and of the zionist apartheid regime of Israel (although not necessarily of Noam Chomsky and his Zionist Cronies), points to facts which show that zionism is not only a danger to the Arabs of the Middle East, but also to his own country, Argentina. He reminds his readers of Herzl's old plan of establishing his zionist state in Argentina (if Palestine or Uganda cannot be taken over for that purpose). He also points to the recent aquisition of large tracts of lands in Argentina by zionists, and he warns his people and government of the zionist dangers, if they continue their complacency towards zionism. At end of the article, the author presents a list of 10 questions to Israeli zionists. Here are some of them : Question No. 2: Why do Zionists purposefully harm Jewish communities in the Diaspora? As an Argentine citizen, I am concerned at the fact that Zionists and Israelis confuse Zionism with Judaism on purpose, because this can potentially lead to very negative and unjust reactions on the part of vast population sectors the world over who, ignoring this key differentiation between Zionists and Jews, might end up blaming all Jews for the carnage, injustice and
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [ctrl] Oil supplies could 'last 140 years'
I hope some of that low slung fruit ruppert used to bray about whacks him in the head. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Pale Horse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 14, 2006 10:12:37 AM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], armageddon-or- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Conspiracy- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ctrl] Oil supplies could 'last 140 years' Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oil supplies could 'last 140 years' Wednesday 13 September 2006, 17:35 Makka Time, 14:35 GMT New technology is making it possible to drill deeper Related: New oil find in Gulf of Mexico Oil prices hit $78 a barrel A Saudi oil executive has challenged the idea that supplies are running out, saying that just 18 per cent of the global supply of crude has been tapped. Abdallah Jumah, president and CEO of the state-owned Saudi Arabian Oil Company, better known as Aramco, said the world has potentially 4.5 trillion barrels in reserves - enough to last 140 years at current levels of consumption. The world has only consumed about 18 per cent of its conventional potential, Jumah said, rejecting fears that supplies will run out in a few decades. Click to join catapultthepropaganda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catapultthepropaganda/join Click to join openmindopencodenews http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openmindopencodenews/join Experts have estimated that the Earth's recoverable oil resource is between three trillion and more than four trillion barrels. If consumption rises about two per cent a year from today's levels of about 85 million barrels a day, the low end of that range would only be enough to last until 2070. Rex Tillerson, the chairman of Exxon Mobil, has said that world demand for oil will increase by 50 per cent in the next decade. Jumah said new technology and better recovery rates would make it possible to find enough new oil resources to add one trillion barrels to world reserves over the next 25 years. Gulf of Mexico find Drilling is now going on as deep as 3,000 metres below the Gulf of Mexico and between 2,100 and 2,500 metres elsewhere. Experts say a newly discovered petroleum pool beneath the Gulf of Mexico eventually could yield anywhere from three billion to 15 billion barrels. Industry leaders have gathered in Austria this week for a conference sponsored by the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries. Earlier this week, the 11-nation group agreed to maintain its current production target of 28 million barrels a day but made clear it would consider a cutting its output before the end of the year if oil prices continue to fall. Crude prices have fallen to a five-month low, dropping by more than $12 a barrel since record highs in mid-July. Analysts say ample supplies and the easing of political tensions in Lebanon and Iran have driven prices lower. All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] m3 discontuance
If you believe this line of bullshit, then there's a bridge in brooklyn i'd like to sell ya! http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/discm3.htm Release Date: November 10, 2005, revised March 9, 2006 Discontinuance of M3 On March 23, 2006, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System will cease publication of the M3 monetary aggregate. The Board will also cease publishing the following components: large- denomination time deposits, repurchase agreements (RPs), and Eurodollars. The Board will continue to publish institutional money market mutual funds as a memorandum item in this release. Measures of large-denomination time deposits will continue to be published by the Board in the Flow of Funds Accounts (Z.1 release) on a quarterly basis and in the H.8 release on a weekly basis (for commercial banks). M3 does not appear to convey any additional information about economic activity that is not already embodied in M2 and has not played a role in the monetary policy process for many years. Consequently, the Board judged that the costs of collecting the underlying data and publishing M3 outweigh the benefits. Statistical releases -- -- Home | Economic research and data Accessibility | Contact Us Last update: March 9, 2006 Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: Biggest US Oil Discovery Since Prudhoe Bay
between what is in the caribbean and alaska, the usa does not need an ounce of foreign oil to meet its needs. so much geopolitics and societal control is mixed up in the oil business that it just sickens me. prudhoe bay is nothing compared to kruparak and gull island. do you really think the oil companies just out of the blue discovered so much oil? no way! they've been sitting on this for years. the politics at play is so pathetic that a child can see through it, yet we just keep lapping this shit up. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another article http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR200609\ 0500275_pf.html U.S. Oil Reserves Get a Big Boost Chevron-Led Team Discovers Billions of Barrels in Gulf of Mexico's Deep Water By Steven Mufson Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, September 6, 2006; D01 An oil discovery by Chevron Corp. has bolstered prospects that petroleum companies will be able to tap giant reserves that lie far beneath the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico. Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the oil industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels, and perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate could boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent. This looks to be the biggest discovery in the United States in a generation, really since the discovery of Prudhoe Bay 38 years ago, said Daniel Yergin, chairman of the consulting firm Cambridge Energy Research Associates Inc. There's been a lot of anticipation about what's called the Wilcox formation, and this is the validation of the theory and of the technology, he said, using another name for the area of the Gulf. Cambridge Energy forecasts that the deep-water area of the Gulf of Mexico will produce 800,000 barrels of oil a day within seven years and account for 11 percent of U.S. oil production. That would not solve the world's energy problem or eliminate U.S. reliance on oil imports, but it would help stabilize U.S. oil production, which has been declining, and cover some of the world's rising demand for petroleum. Prudhoe Bay, in northern Alaska, produced about 1.5 million barrels a day at its peak. Although oil companies have been exploring the deep-water area of the Gulf of Mexico for the past five years, there have not been any previous production tests from the older tertiary trend, which is made largely of Eocene era sediments more than 35 million years old. Chevron and its partners said the test showed that the oil deposits in the older rock formations were technologically and economically viable. The big question for everybody has been whether these rocks would flow and at what rates, said Paul Siegele, head of Chevron's deep-water Gulf exploration unit. These are older rocks than have been explored before. While everyone was excited about the amount of oil in place, the question was whether it would flow at rates that would be economic, and that's why the test was so important. Chevron said yesterday that 6,000 barrels a day of crude oil flowed through a test well from the tertiary trend more than 20,000 feet beneath the sea floor in 7,000 feet of water. Chevron's partners noted that the oil flowed from just 40 percent of the more than 350 feet of oil-bearing sediments. Siegele said that the oil was high quality and low in sulfur and that it flowed through an opening less than an inch in diameter. But he said the company would not divulge the exact size of the opening, an important detail for analysts. Still, John P. Herrlin, an oil analyst with Merrill Lynch Co., said the production test announcement was meaningful because it opens a new fairway in the deep-water Gulf of Mexico oil area, which also includes other geological prospects. Herrlin said the lower tertiary trend alone could hold 3 billion barrels to 15 billion barrels of recoverable oil reserves. That's a figure Chevron used earlier this year to describe the size of the tertiary trend prospect. In an interview yesterday, Siegele said the new test results reinforced that estimate. But separately, Stephen J. Hadden, senior vice president for exploration and production at Devon Energy Corp., a partner in the Chevron exploration well, said the 3 billion barrel figure was too low. Cambridge Energy's Robert W. Esser said the Eocene or Wilcox sediments could hold 10 billion barrels. Exploration and production in deep-water areas have become more important to world oil production as production from older fields on or close to shore begins to decline. And technological advances have made it easier to work in the
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: 9/11 debate Monday on DemocracyNow
instead of dylan avery, tell amy the gatekeeper to get jim fetzer or steven jones in there. they will rip popular mechanics' attempts at debunking to shreds. Apparently, a radio show host (charles Goyette) who ripped apart the popular mechanics shill who came on his phoenix based radio show in early august was fired. the interview can be found at the following url: http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-Article.htm?InfoNo=009309 --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Evan Daniel Ravitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 8, 2006 7:46:45 AM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 9/11 debate Monday on DemocracyNow Folks, Amy Goodman, host of DemocracyNow, the largest independent broadcast media program in the US, on over 500 stations (WBAI in NYC, http://democracynow.org) announced today that on Monday Sept. 11 she will host a debate about what REALLY happened on 9/11/01, with: *Dylan Avery, 24-yr-old producer of Loose Change, the best documentary showing all the holes in the official government version of what happened on 9/11. You can see it free with a high-speed connection by clicking: http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=7866929448192753501q=loose +change (My father, who made a living producing and directing documentaries in NYC in the 60s and 70s, and who believes the government, agrees that it is well done. It is already available in German, French, Polish and Korean editions.) *David Dunbar, editor of Popular Mechanics, which has issued the book Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand up to the Facts. You can read their special edition at: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html Was 9/11 engineered from a cave in Afghanistan or an undisclosed location closer to home? Was it an attack by people who hate our freedom or a false-flag inside job like the 1933 burning of Germany's Reichstag, blamed on Communists and Jews, but likely engineered by the Nazis? Or could it be both? You decide. Interestingly, Monday Sept 11 is also the 100th anniversary of Gandhi's Satyagraha movement, dedicated to Truth. Ghandhi's grandson Arun appeared on DemocracyNow today. Please forward this to your email lists. We can't fight terrorism unless we know who the terrorists are. Evan - Evan Ravitz 303 440 6838 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vote to Ratify the National Initiative at http://Vote.org Photo Adventures: http://Vote.org/photos Gates of Paradise Trips http://Vote.org/paradise There's fool's gold because there's real gold. -Rumi Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: Stagflation Haunts The Land
m3 is no longer reported m3 is m2 plus large cds over $100k and petro dollars m3 is not reported because it is where the real inflation is taking place. the effective date of the termination of reporting m3 was march 23, 2006, which was supposed to be the date on which the Iranian oil bourse opened; however, the oil bourse's opening has been delayed. the dollar is screwed as long as the US is run by nutty neocon empire builders who practice gunboat diplomacy in their attempts to wipe out Islam er! terrorism. maybe you can get leo wanta to give us some of the alleged 4.5 trillion i hear so much about from rense, cloak and dagger, and greg symanski. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather than shrinking, as the plethora of interest rate hikes would suggest, the money supply's growth rate has actually accelerated during the past two years. The Fed's M2 measure is 5% larger today than it was 12 months ago. But M2 and M3 measure institutional money flows such as oil company gouging. M1 measure citizen consumer ready cash, and M1 is definitely down, reflecting transfers to oil companies and falling housing values ending the cycle of credit card spending by blocking further home equity loan transfers of credit card debt. If prices rise, other than oil and homes, with M1 decreasing, that is not inflation. It would simply be currency devaluation because of the trade deficit. If M2 and M3 go up while M1 is now coming down, that simply reflects the well known divergence between the highest and lowest incomes, the great divide that has been increasing since Enronald Reagan escalated arms spending and CIA crack production and Enronization, consistently from then until now achieving what Dub's dad calls,capital transfer to those who are higher, tighter, and righter. Last winter, a Stanford economist pointed out that rents had peaked, determining that home values would soon level off and then fall, which they have done. A George Mason University economist posted a hard copy note on the bulletin warning staff and students to get out of real estate because REIT's had peaked. All summer we have been watching home values fall and backlogs increase. Soon there will be a forest of for sale signs. Labor costs are on the rise. Take the case of the Cannon towel factory. The union won, the Cannons sold out, the new owner closed the factory and shipped the jobs off to other countries. Wages are down in those other countries, too. Look at Juarez, Mexico, wages down, jobs lost to globalization and the race to the bottom, murder rate for women up 1000%, up on a classwar atrocity scale, because maqiladora jobs are only for women. Whose wages are up in global classwar? The classwar atrocity rate is all that's up. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, norgesen norgesen@ wrote: Stagflation Haunts The Land (Conspiracy Nation, 09/07/06) -- Like a ghost from 1978-1982, stagflation prowls the prairies. Stagflation comes from Stagnant economy plus Inflation, i.e., STAGnant+infLATION= Stagflation. First coined by the late British Chancellor of the Exchequer, Iain Macleod, stagflation refers to the vicious combination of rising prices and falling output -- which the U.S. economy is experiencing now. (Dr. Irwin Kellner, Commentary: Stagflation is returning to haunt the economy. Marketwatch, Aug. 8, 2006) Oldsters will recall the 1978-1982 time frame. The prime rate was above 15 percent. A song about Living here in Allentown played on the radio. Official unemployment figures, already massaged, nonetheless were above 10 percent. Tom Brokaw came on the boob tube and darkly let it be known, Some Americans are beginning to use 'the D word' (Depression). Now, something called The Beige Book is making nasty noises. Behold, says Beige Book, the growth is slowing, yet the wage pressures are building. Huddled within the bowels of Committee Central, the financial wizards ponder the meaning. It means declining job creation, surplus labor, and yet labor costs are on the rise. Here we have a puzzle... Beyond this, the wizards cannot say. Saith Beige Book: ...a slowing economy, punctuated by less robust consumer spending, a weakening housing market and high energy prices. (Jeremy W. Peters, Labor Costs Shake a Pillar of Fed Policy. New York Times, Sept. 7, 2006) So, less people working, less people spending, and yet prices on the rise is the connundrum. Robert Reich, former Labor Secretary under Wunderkind Clinton, calls Detroit a huge parking lot of unsold cars. He adds, Inventories of unsold homes continue to grow. Even-higher inflation worries him. But the economy, meanwhile, is in the tank. We used to have a word for this. It was called stagflation. (Beware Stagflation. http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2006/09/06/PM200609064.html) There's that
[cia-drugs] watersheds for the octopus
Whenever I think about the notion of divine intervention in the affairs of men, three events come to mind. I am sure there are many others. perhaps you can add to this little list. 1. A courier is struck by lightning in 18th century europe. When the authorities examine his papers, they find the Illuminati gameplan. 2. Trotsky was all dialed in to succeed Lenin. He had married a Rothschild cousin and had garnered the approval of the banking elite in europe and america. However, upon Lenin's death, Trotsky was the victim of a protracted illness. Instead of rallying support and denouncing Stalin, he was bedridden and unable to make one move on his own behalf. Stalin took the reins of power never to let go until he was poisoned in 1953. 3. The so called invincible Israeli army was stopped in its tracks in Lebanon by Hizbollah in the summer of 2006. The reprcussions of this have yet to be fully realized; however, it seems the zionist neocon geopolitical agenda is about to implode. Iraq is lost. Afghanistan is lost and a last ditch attempt to attack Iran will result in a financial meltdown in the US. (can you imagine what $20 a gallon gas will do the the fragile US economy?) Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: watersheds for the octopus
Trotsky was supposed to step in when Lenin died. The act of god, so to speak, is the illness that prevented him from fulfilling his plans. Once Stalin shored up his support, the banksters decided it wasn't worth upsetting the applecart to reinstate Trotsky. Trotsky left Russia and remained in exile for many years before he was killed in Mexico while he was a guest at the home of Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. A courier is struck by lightning in 18th century europe. When the authorities examine his papers, they find the Illuminati gameplan. VMANN: so this was REALLY an act of god? i thought they killed trotsky because he was israel first. vigilius haufniensis Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] carlin video who runs the world
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[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Secret Team covert op. planners exposed
I think profaca has been sniffing too much model plane glue. the secret team has been available for free on the internet for many years. I downloaded it a few years back from the following website. http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ Google secret team you find the url for the free download on the first page of search results. this is why conspiracy research gets a bad name!! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, palcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Immense is right, this is incredible. Many thanks. RoadsEnd wrote: Begin forwarded message: *From: *Mario Profaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *September 2, 2006 12:03:11 AM PDT *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: **[SPY NEWS] `Secret Team' covert op. planners exposed* *Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/secret-team-covert-op- planners-exposed `Secret Team' covert op. planners exposed Tony Gosling Friday, September 1st, 2006 This book, The Secret Team, by a retired USAF Lt. Colonel has been successfully suppressed for the last thirty years. Fletcher Prouty worked at the Joint Chiefs' level of the US Military and believed John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Allen Dulles' rogue faction, or Secret Team, within the CIA. A quick look on Bookfinder.com will show you that you will have to pay well over ?100.00 for one of the tiny number of copies that come on the market. I have just published the book this evening here http://www.bilderberg.org/st and you can download html, text, and formatted versions here http://www.bilderberg.org/cia.htm#st I've also taken the liberty of attaching a zipped text version of the book which is about 450kb Have a good read if you're into the nuts and bolts of covert operations because Prouty was in a position to know exactly how they were carried out! Yes, the book is thirty years old but the insight into the history of the cold war - and more recent events - which it brings us is immense. -__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __ /-_|-0-\-V-/-\|-|-__|-|-|-/-_| \_-\--_/\-/|-\\-|-_||-V-V-\_-\ |__/_|--//-|_|\_|___|\_A_/|__/ SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station - The Global Intelligence News Portal http://mprofaca.cro.net Since you are receiving and reading documents, news stories, comments and opinions not only from so called (or self- proclaimed) reliable sources, but also a lot of possible misinformation collected by Spy News moderator and subscribers and posted to Spy News for OSINT purposes - it should be a serious reason (particularly to journalists and web publishers) to think twice before using it for their story writing, further publishing or forwarding throughout Cyberspace. To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** FAIR USE NOTICE: This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We always mention the author and link the original site and page of every article. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews Mario Profaca http://mprofaca.cro.net/profaca.html e-mail: mario.profaca[at]zg.htnet.hr SPY NEWS owner, editor and discussion moderator Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Who Really Starts All the Wars in the World?
I think this is, in the inimitable words of Dan Hopsicker. ...a steamy pile of bullshit Wars are started by entrenched power elites whether they be right, left, middle or whatever. It is foolish to say the right wing is the source of all war mongering, because that is simply a form of misdirection. If you look at who controls the money and credit in any society, you will find the real power. Instead of the right wing, look at who controls the finances of a nation - all your slimy scumbag warmongers can be found there. The rest are just sycophants, opportunists, shills and puppets. Leon Trotsky was arrested in Canada as he was in transit to Russia with millions of dollars for the Russian Revolution. Lord Milner lobbied for his release. Lenin was escorted through WWI Europe in a sealed train with millions of dollars for the Russian Revolution. Nobody on either side of WWI touched him. Major Jordan was overseeing an airbase from which shipments to the Soviet Union were sent as part of the Lend Lease Program. Harry Hopkins was giving the Soviets everything they wanted including secret atomic bomb plans, strategic industrial plans and anything the Soviets might have wanted from the US patent office. There is an interview of Christian Rakovsky that was conducted by Stalin's interrogaters after Rakovsky was arrested in the late 1930's. After you read that, tell me all about the bad guys in the right wing. http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html Wise Up, Pal!!! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Mario Profaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 2, 2006 11:18:18 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SPY NEWS] Who Really Starts All the Wars in the World? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.opednews.com/articles/ opedne_john_mig_060901_who_really_starts_al.htm September 2, 2006 at 00:43:24 Who Really Starts Alll the Wars in the World? by john miglio http://www.opednews.com Who Really Starts All the Wars in the World? The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world. -- Mel Gibson By John F. Miglio The old French expression, pas d'ennemi a gauche (no enemy on the left), has a lot of wisdom in it. Basically, it means you have nothing to fear from individuals or governments more liberal or progressive than you are. Your real enemies, those who want to conquer or subjugate you, always come from the right of the political spectrum, especially the far right. What does it mean for a government to be far right? Using the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the U.S. Constitution as conceived by our Founding Fathers as a base line for a liberal democracy, the leader or leaders of a far right- wing government would invalidate or pervert almost everything these documents stand for in an effort to assume more power for themselves. Two classic examples of 20th century countries that started out as democracies (albeit weak democracies) and ended up as far right dictatorships are pre-World War II Germany and Italy. During this time period, Hitler and Mussolini seized control of their respective countries and turned them into fascist states, i.e., states with governments marked by, among other things: a heightened sense of nationalism, repression of civil liberties, widespread propaganda, intolerance of minorities, and economic alignment with large corporations. For Hitler and Mussolini, it was absolutely critical for them to align themselves with large corporations in order to bankroll their fascist states and sustain their power as they systematically destroyed democracy. To underscore this point, Mussolini once remarked, Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power. The linkage of corporate power (big business) to government was also evident in almost all the half-pint dictatorships that emerged after World War II in Central America, Africa, the Middle East, etc. Like Germany and Italy, many of these countries with dictators started out as fledgling democracies only to be undermined by the big business interests of their own countries working in conjunction with American corporations and our CIA. Currently, one fact that the mainstream media rarely mention in their reportage and analysis of terrorism is that our CIA helped both Saddam Hussein and the Shah of Iran to topple the democratically elected leaders of their respective countries. As a result, both Iraq and Iran became repressive regimes that tortured and killed their own people while working out sweetheart deals with American oil companies and enriching themselves and their families in the process. The same can be said for Saudi Arabia, whose royal
[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Who Really Starts All the Wars in the World?
Kris, I think we agree on the idea of sock puppets; however, the tenor of the article is that we should look to the right wing for the bad guys. And if the bad guys are to be found on the left, then they're not really on the left at all. As far as I am concerned, it is a little silly semantic game. Leadership that forgoes wisdom and responsible action in return for maintaining and gaining power and control is corrupt. In any event, what is your take on Chavez? -- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely, the head of the octopus is non-denominational, and there is documented evidence of persons of many personal political persuasions that are used by the head. and rarely are the hands of the op operated by the head. But in all fairness and not assessing damage of their particular actions, the hard-wire on the right is historically more extensive and pronounced, especially in Western experience. The major left totalitarian state was a fiction for many reasons, the facilitation went through left octopus channels that were directed by the money and credit. It was, alas, not fiction to those that suffered. etc. Peace, K On Sep 3, 2006, at 12:36 PM, mark urban wrote: I think this is, in the inimitable words of Dan Hopsicker. ...a steamy pile of bullshit Wars are started by entrenched power elites whether they be right, left, middle or whatever. It is foolish to say the right wing is the source of all war mongering, because that is simply a form of misdirection. If you look at who controls the money and credit in any society, you will find the real power. Instead of the right wing, look at who controls the finances of a nation - all your slimy scumbag warmongers can be found there. The rest are just sycophants, opportunists, shills and puppets. Leon Trotsky was arrested in Canada as he was in transit to Russia with millions of dollars for the Russian Revolution. Lord Milner lobbied for his release. Lenin was escorted through WWI Europe in a sealed train with millions of dollars for the Russian Revolution. Nobody on either side of WWI touched him. Major Jordan was overseeing an airbase from which shipments to the Soviet Union were sent as part of the Lend Lease Program. Harry Hopkins was giving the Soviets everything they wanted including secret atomic bomb plans, strategic industrial plans and anything the Soviets might have wanted from the US patent office. There is an interview of Christian Rakovsky that was conducted by Stalin's interrogaters after Rakovsky was arrested in the late 1930's. After you read that, tell me all about the bad guys in the right wing. http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/red-symphony.html Wise Up, Pal!!! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd roadsend@ wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Mario Profaca mario.profaca@ Date: September 2, 2006 11:18:18 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SPY NEWS] Who Really Starts All the Wars in the World? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.opednews.com/articles/ opedne_john_mig_060901_who_really_starts_al.htm September 2, 2006 at 00:43:24 Who Really Starts Alll the Wars in the World? by john miglio http://www.opednews.com Who Really Starts All the Wars in the World? The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world. -- Mel Gibson By John F. Miglio The old French expression, pas d'ennemi a gauche (no enemy on the left), has a lot of wisdom in it. Basically, it means you have nothing to fear from individuals or governments more liberal or progressive than you are. Your real enemies, those who want to conquer or subjugate you, always come from the right of the political spectrum, especially the far right. What does it mean for a government to be far right? Using the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the U.S. Constitution as conceived by our Founding Fathers as a base line for a liberal democracy, the leader or leaders of a far right- wing government would invalidate or pervert almost everything these documents stand for in an effort to assume more power for themselves. Two classic examples of 20th century countries that started out as democracies (albeit weak democracies) and ended up as far right dictatorships are pre-World War II Germany and Italy. During this time period, Hitler and Mussolini seized control of their respective countries and turned them into fascist states, i.e., states with governments marked by, among other things: a heightened sense of nationalism, repression of civil liberties, widespread propaganda, intolerance of minorities, and economic alignment with large corporations. For Hitler and Mussolini, it was absolutely critical for them to align themselves with large corporations in order to bankroll
