Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6
* Postmaster [04-12-21 13:31]: > hen u do know its written up in the darktable/issues > > On 4/12/21 11:07 AM, Pascal Obry wrote: > > Le lundi 12 avril 2021 à 09:57 -0400, Postmaster a écrit : > > > .. > > > So is anyone fixing/repairing the issues with Crop & Rotate? > > > > No hello, no signature, no name, just a dry question :( > > > > Not even a little hint about what is broken > > > > Do you know that this is a community project ? can you not even bother to cite the issue #? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Upgrding from 2.6 to 3.4: Will I lose my modules adjustments?
* Nikolaos Pantazis [03-06-21 05:30]: > Hi, I use darktable 2.6 with debian stable. When I upgrade to debian 11, > darktable will upgrade to 3.4. I use darktable for finetuning my paintings > photograps. This job needs my physical paindings and pc monitor to be next > to each other and this is very time consuming. > > Reading darktable 3.0.0 release notes: > "When updating from the currently stable 2.6.x series, please bear in mind > that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new library > and configuration will not be usable with 2.6.x any more, so making a > backup is strongly advised." > > I do not understand what will happen with my edits: > Will I be able to open my old edits and continue working on them? yes > Will I be able to adjust old modules, or add new modules to old edits? yes, but with reservations. the library.db for the newer dt will not be compatabile with your current version. and the newer version may (probably) have some different module names and newer modules which will make changes to your images in a different manner, but your old edit shoud still appear as now and you should be able to continue to edit them. to be completely safe, when making edits to old images, I would suggest duplicating those images first (within darktable) and working on the duplicates. again, just to be safe. good luck. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Can timestamp information in xmp files be altered with external script?
* Bengt [03-04-21 13:02]: > > The xmp file contains Epoch time information. E. g: > darktable:import_timestamp="1614867405" > darktable:change_timestamp="-1" > darktable:export_timestamp=""1614868405 > darktable:print_timestamp="-1" > > The time information is altered whenever a picture is exported. I. e. not > modified, only exported to jpg file for presentation. > > In case of backing up files into archives, this results in different xml > file contents whenever a picture has been exported and in errors when > archive versions are compared/checked (md5sum-ing). > > Questions: > 1: Is there any way in darktable to avoid timestamp registration when only > exporting or printing? > 2: Is it "dangerous" to force export_- and print_timestamps to "-1" by > writing an external script that modifies all xml files before archiving (and > export/print time information is unimportant for the user)? > 3: Any other suggestions? the .xmp is a duplicate of what the library.db contains and, if modified externally (not by dt), affected images need to be re-imported or their xmp files re-read to update library.db. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] XMP file always overwritten by dt
* Klaus [03-01-21 13:10]: > Hi all, > > I am running dt 3.4.0 on kubuntu 20.04 and I am unable to convince dt to > update > the database with external changes to xmp files. > > When modifying the xmp with an external editor and opening the folder with dt > afterwards, dt will come up with the dialog asking if I want to modify the > database or overwrite the xmp. Even when I choose to modify the database, the > xmp is overwritten with the database content. I have seen some info that this > is known and should have been fixed on dt 3.4?? > > I even tried to move the database aside forcing dt to start from scratch, but > then it would just create new default xmp files when importing the folder > ignoring and thus killing the existing ones - apparently it was good idea > trying this with copies ... > > The background is that I am using dt only for raw files and have used digikam > for tagging, color labels and rating of pictures in jpg - also pictures coming > from e.g. mobile phones. I would like now to transfer tags, color lables and > rating from jpg files in digiKam to the raw files in dt and I am using a small > script for modifying the xmp files. The script seems to work fine and the only > thing missing is dt to just update the database instead of killing my changes first step would be to file an issue at: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new/choose this where and how the developers keep track of items to address. and please provide all the information requested. it will expedite solutions. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Jean-Luc CECCOLI [02-24-21 12:20]: > > Message du 24/02/21 00:29 > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > A : "darktable forum" > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > * Jean-Luc CECCOLI [02-23-21 18:16]: > > > > Message du 23/02/21 21:19 > > > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > > > > > A : "darktable forum" > > > > Copie à : > > > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > > > > > > > Message du 22/02/21 20:37 > > > > > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > > > > > > > > > A : "darktable forum" > > > > > > Copie à : > > > > > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > > > > > > > > > [.../...] > > > > > > > > > > > > and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list > > > > > > have > > > > > > absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if I only had hit "Reply", you only would have received this > > > > > post. > > > > > In order to let it be distributed to the list, I had to hit "Reply > > > > > all" and then delete your address form the recipients. > > > > > When I happen to forget to do this, you get the duplicaate and tell > > > > > me not to send directly to you. > > > > > This list is the only one I have been belonging to that behaves this > > > > > way - which does not mean it is the only one - but it is not > > > > > convenient at all. > > > > > Add to that that it also handles the posts / threads in a way that > > > > > often makes them unreadable for others... > > > > > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > > > > > J.-Luc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so just two people have misconfigured email clients? very odd that mine > > > > works fine. > > > > > > > Patrick, I do not use any email client, but my isp's web interface - > > > which is not configurable at all. > > > I only can choose to use html or plain text, no automatic cc nor reply-to > > > nor whatsoever. > > > If I choose html, then each CR is seen by others like 2 CR - a blank line > > > between each line - and misquoting appears on replying. Pretty unreadable. > > > If I choose plain text, then I may have problems with posts from people > > > using such interface - double CR and misquoting, that means one cannot > > > see who wrote what. > > > Attempted that when using the same tool there is no problem, then we can > > > assume the problem is araised between the two parts. > > > > > > I would stongly consider another email client. > > fwiw: your current email client is wanadoo.fr's web interface. > > and you can use another email client. > > > Well, I tend to rather consider as real email clients programs that can be > configured, like thunderbird for instance, but that does not matter and is OT. > I have been using many real email clients in the past, each one having its > strengths and weaknesses, and I have ended up in rather being limited to > basic capabilities than suffering from many problems because of too many > misbehaviours. > The fact is, that what one calls standard is not what others interpret as so, > and leads to such situations. > > Rgrds, > > J.-Luc fwiw: you apparently believe I need two copies of list mail as you have apparently optioned to reply to ALL. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Jean-Luc CECCOLI [02-23-21 18:16]: > > Message du 23/02/21 21:19 > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > A : "darktable forum" > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > > > Message du 22/02/21 20:37 > > > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > > > > > A : "darktable forum" > > > > Copie à : > > > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > > > > > [.../...] > > > > > > > > and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list have > > > > absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. > > > > > > > Well, if I only had hit "Reply", you only would have received this post. > > > In order to let it be distributed to the list, I had to hit "Reply all" > > > and then delete your address form the recipients. > > > When I happen to forget to do this, you get the duplicaate and tell me > > > not to send directly to you. > > > This list is the only one I have been belonging to that behaves this way > > > - which does not mean it is the only one - but it is not convenient at > > > all. > > > Add to that that it also handles the posts / threads in a way that often > > > makes them unreadable for others... > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > J.-Luc > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > so just two people have misconfigured email clients? very odd that mine > > works fine. > > > Patrick, I do not use any email client, but my isp's web interface - which is > not configurable at all. > I only can choose to use html or plain text, no automatic cc nor reply-to nor > whatsoever. > If I choose html, then each CR is seen by others like 2 CR - a blank line > between each line - and misquoting appears on replying. Pretty unreadable. > If I choose plain text, then I may have problems with posts from people using > such interface - double CR and misquoting, that means one cannot see who > wrote what. > Attempted that when using the same tool there is no problem, then we can > assume the problem is araised between the two parts. I would stongly consider another email client. fwiw: your current email client is wanadoo.fr's web interface. and you can use another email client. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Patrick Shanahan [02-23-21 16:15]: > * Michael [02-23-21 15:56]: > > please do! thanks. > > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:50 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > * Michael [02-23-21 15:42]: > > > > so then teach us... how should it be configured? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:20 PM Patrick Shanahan > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > * DougC [02-23-21 12:34]: > > > > > > This is also my experience. It is NOT a mis-configuration of my > > > > > > email client. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 12:26:49 -0500 Jean-Luc CECCOLI > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message du 22/02/21 20:37 > > > > > > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > > > > > > > > > > > A : "darktable forum" > > > > > > > Copie à : > > > > > > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [.../...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if I only had hit "Reply", you only would have received this > > > > > > post. > > > > > > In order to let it be distributed to the list, I had to hit "Reply > > > > > > all" and then delete your address form the recipients. > > > > > > When I happen to forget to do this, you get the duplicaate and tell > > > > > > me not to send directly to you. > > > > > > This list is the only one I have been belonging to that behaves > > > > > > this way - which does not mean it is the only one - but it is not > > > > > > convenient at all. > > > > > > Add to that that it also handles the posts / threads in a way that > > > > > > often makes them unreadable for others... > > > > > > > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > > > > > > > J.-Luc > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so just two people have misconfigured email clients? very odd that > > > > > mine > > > > > works fine. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > > > > @ptilopteri > > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > > > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > > > > freenode > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > I use mutt and will provide my configuration for you to see if you believe > > > your can use it or benefit from
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Michael [02-23-21 15:56]: > please do! thanks. > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:50 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Michael [02-23-21 15:42]: > > > so then teach us... how should it be configured? > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:20 PM Patrick Shanahan > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > * DougC [02-23-21 12:34]: > > > > > This is also my experience. It is NOT a mis-configuration of my email > > > > > client. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 12:26:49 -0500 Jean-Luc CECCOLI > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message du 22/02/21 20:37 > > > > > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > > > > > > > > > A : "darktable forum" > > > > > > Copie à : > > > > > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > > > > > > > > > [.../...] > > > > > > > > > > > > and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list have > > > > > > absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if I only had hit "Reply", you only would have received this > > > > > post. > > > > > In order to let it be distributed to the list, I had to hit "Reply > > > > > all" and then delete your address form the recipients. > > > > > When I happen to forget to do this, you get the duplicaate and tell > > > > > me not to send directly to you. > > > > > This list is the only one I have been belonging to that behaves this > > > > > way - which does not mean it is the only one - but it is not > > > > > convenient at all. > > > > > Add to that that it also handles the posts / threads in a way that > > > > > often makes them unreadable for others... > > > > > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > > > > > J.-Luc > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so just two people have misconfigured email clients? very odd that mine > > > > works fine. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > > > @ptilopteri > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > > > freenode > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > ________ > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > I use mutt and will provide my configuration for you to see if you believe > > your can use it or benefit from it. just say so. > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org my muttrc sanitized is here: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/.muttrc removed "save-hooks send-hooks fcc-hooks account-hooks macros mailboxes lists subscribes" as they are private or would not make sense to you. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Michael [02-23-21 15:42]: > so then teach us... how should it be configured? > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:20 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * DougC [02-23-21 12:34]: > > > This is also my experience. It is NOT a mis-configuration of my email > > > client. > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 12:26:49 -0500 Jean-Luc CECCOLI > > > wrote > > > > > > > > > > Message du 22/02/21 20:37 > > > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > > > > > A : "darktable forum" > > > > Copie à : > > > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > > > > > [.../...] > > > > > > > > and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list have > > > > absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. > > > > > > > Well, if I only had hit "Reply", you only would have received this post. > > > In order to let it be distributed to the list, I had to hit "Reply all" > > > and then delete your address form the recipients. > > > When I happen to forget to do this, you get the duplicaate and tell me > > > not to send directly to you. > > > This list is the only one I have been belonging to that behaves this way > > > - which does not mean it is the only one - but it is not convenient at > > > all. > > > Add to that that it also handles the posts / threads in a way that often > > > makes them unreadable for others... > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > J.-Luc > > > ____ > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > so just two people have misconfigured email clients? very odd that mine > > works fine. > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org I use mutt and will provide my configuration for you to see if you believe your can use it or benefit from it. just say so. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* DougC [02-23-21 12:34]: > This is also my experience. It is NOT a mis-configuration of my email client. > > > > Doug C. > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 12:26:49 -0500 Jean-Luc CECCOLI > wrote > > > > Message du 22/02/21 20:37 > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > A : "darktable forum" > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts > > > > [.../...] > > > > and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list have > > absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. > > > Well, if I only had hit "Reply", you only would have received this post. > In order to let it be distributed to the list, I had to hit "Reply all" and > then delete your address form the recipients. > When I happen to forget to do this, you get the duplicaate and tell me not to > send directly to you. > This list is the only one I have been belonging to that behaves this way - > which does not mean it is the only one - but it is not convenient at all. > Add to that that it also handles the posts / threads in a way that often > makes them unreadable for others... > > Rgrds, > > J.-Luc > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > so just two people have misconfigured email clients? very odd that mine works fine. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Invisible 'OK' on C
* David Vincent-Jones [02-22-21 15:13]: > Yes, it is the 'OK' that sets the keystone adjustment . almost > impossible to find on any busy image. Changing to a different theme really > is no help. All it needs is that it acquire the same coloring that is used > with the lines and other keystone symbols. I think that it just got > overlooked. > > On 2021-02-22 11:51 a.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [02-22-21 14:43]: > > > I often spend a great amount of time hunting for the elusive 'OK' button > > > when I am correcting perspective with the Crop-and-Rotate module. The > > > light > > > gray symbol is very easily lost especially on busy images. Conversely the > > > other symbols on this modules guidelines are distinctively colored and > > > easy > > > to find. > > > > > > Does somebody know a way to recolor this item? Maybe it was simply > > > overlooked in the interface. > > does a (enter key) set the change for you? and by perspective > > are you referring to keystone or do you not mean "crop and rotate". > > > > and you do have access to different themes which will probably change the > > intensity and tint of the "ok". fwiw, when I use keystone, the "ok" usually is dead center of the unaltered image, but that may just be circumstance from the images where I employe keystone. I increase the view when setting the corners and then the same for "finding" the "ok". that may help you make it more visible. and I do not recall it every having a different color, in the last 6-8 years. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Bill Martz [02-22-21 14:54]: > Patrick, I see your reply; you are replying to the list from Michael's > reply. When you replied to my original email to the list, I did not receive > it, except when Juan replied to it. Why don't I see direct replies? > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:37 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Michael [02-22-21 14:24]: > > > I found the problem to be that people are not replying- all. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:16 PM Bill Martz > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I am using Firefox and Gmail. Thanks, anyway. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:45 PM Niranjan Rao wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On 2/22/21 10:39 AM, Bill Martz wrote: > > > >> > > > >> This has been going on for quite a while, and fortunately I have > > gotten answers anyway: > > > >> > > > >> When I send an email to the users list, the only replies I see are > > when someone replies to someone else's initial reply to my post. For > > example, > > > >> > > > >> Patrick Shanahan apparently replied to my post, Open/Close Behavior > > of darkroom Left Hand Modules, but I didn't receive it. When Juan Navarro > > replied to Patrick's reply, I received that. > > > >> > > > >> I see replies by Patrick to other people's posts all the time, so I > > don't understand why it doesn't work for me. As far as I can tell, I am > > seeing everyone else's posts and all the replies to them. > > > >> > > > >> Is anyone able to give me a fix for this issue? > > > >> > > > >> Bill Martz > > > >> > > > >> P.S. If you would include this address in your reply, I hope to be > > able to see it: > > > >> > > > >> bill.in.michi...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Are you using thunderbird by any chance? I have seen similar behavior > > when using thunderbird and mailing lists. My postings do not show up in the > > list, but responses do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list have > > absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. > > > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org have you checked your spam directory or gmail's? the posts may be there. are you using your browser and gmail site to generate your email, ie: gmail is your mail client? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Michael [02-22-21 14:47]: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:40 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > then you should set *your* mail client to reply to the list instead of > > refusing to properly configure your mail system. > > Well,this is the only list that acts that way. On an odd note: I just > hit reply to you and it is replying to > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org the only list which *you* subscribe I have seen many. I do not know what mail client you employe but you need to check your configurations. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Invisible 'OK' on C
* David Vincent-Jones [02-22-21 14:43]: > I often spend a great amount of time hunting for the elusive 'OK' button > when I am correcting perspective with the Crop-and-Rotate module. The light > gray symbol is very easily lost especially on busy images. Conversely the > other symbols on this modules guidelines are distinctively colored and easy > to find. > > Does somebody know a way to recolor this item? Maybe it was simply > overlooked in the interface. does a (enter key) set the change for you? and by perspective are you referring to keystone or do you not mean "crop and rotate". and you do have access to different themes which will probably change the intensity and tint of the "ok". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* DougC [02-22-21 14:43]: > Which is really a failing of the mailing list configuration. Most I have used > over the years have the list being the primary reply so the list gets a reply > from all methods of replying. > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 14:24:55 -0500 Michael <mailto:bmi...@gmail.com> > wrote > > > > in other words if you only hit reply the only one who sees it is the > author of the post. it is not the fault of the mail list software but a standard configuration of gmail which has always been. gmail does not display duplicate msgs. if you post to darktable list using gmail, gmail will show the msg you post, but not the one darktable list posts as they are duplicates to gmail's way of looking. it is not the fault of the mail list software ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Michael [02-22-21 14:28]: > in other words if you only hit reply the only one who sees it is the > author of the post. > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:23 PM Michael wrote: > > > > they merely hit reply and that will not reply : > > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:21 PM Michael wrote: > > > > > > I found the problem to be that people are not replying- all. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:16 PM Bill Martz > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I am using Firefox and Gmail. Thanks, anyway. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:45 PM Niranjan Rao wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On 2/22/21 10:39 AM, Bill Martz wrote: > > > >> > > > >> This has been going on for quite a while, and fortunately I have > > > >> gotten answers anyway: > > > >> > > > >> When I send an email to the users list, the only replies I see are > > > >> when someone replies to someone else's initial reply to my post. For > > > >> example, > > > >> > > > >> Patrick Shanahan apparently replied to my post, Open/Close Behavior of > > > >> darkroom Left Hand Modules, but I didn't receive it. When Juan Navarro > > > >> replied to Patrick's reply, I received that. > > > >> > > > >> I see replies by Patrick to other people's posts all the time, so I > > > >> don't understand why it doesn't work for me. As far as I can tell, I > > > >> am seeing everyone else's posts and all the replies to them. > > > >> > > > >> Is anyone able to give me a fix for this issue? > > > >> > > > >> Bill Martz > > > >> > > > >> P.S. If you would include this address in your reply, I hope to be > > > >> able to see it: > > > >> > > > >> bill.in.michi...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Are you using thunderbird by any chance? I have seen similar behavior > > > >> when using thunderbird and mailing lists. My postings do not show up > > > >> in the list, but responses do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org then you should set *your* mail client to reply to the list instead of refusing to properly configure your mail system. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* Michael [02-22-21 14:24]: > I found the problem to be that people are not replying- all. > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:16 PM Bill Martz > wrote: > > > > I am using Firefox and Gmail. Thanks, anyway. > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:45 PM Niranjan Rao wrote: > >> > >> On 2/22/21 10:39 AM, Bill Martz wrote: > >> > >> This has been going on for quite a while, and fortunately I have gotten > >> answers anyway: > >> > >> When I send an email to the users list, the only replies I see are when > >> someone replies to someone else's initial reply to my post. For example, > >> > >> Patrick Shanahan apparently replied to my post, Open/Close Behavior of > >> darkroom Left Hand Modules, but I didn't receive it. When Juan Navarro > >> replied to Patrick's reply, I received that. > >> > >> I see replies by Patrick to other people's posts all the time, so I don't > >> understand why it doesn't work for me. As far as I can tell, I am seeing > >> everyone else's posts and all the replies to them. > >> > >> Is anyone able to give me a fix for this issue? > >> > >> Bill Martz > >> > >> P.S. If you would include this address in your reply, I hope to be able to > >> see it: > >> > >> bill.in.michi...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > >> > >> > >> Are you using thunderbird by any chance? I have seen similar behavior when > >> using thunderbird and mailing lists. My postings do not show up in the > >> list, but responses do. > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org and *indeed* one SHOULD NOT REPLY ALL as most who read the list have absolutely no need or want for a duplicate msg. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Not seeing replies to my posts
* William Ferguson [02-22-21 14:32]: > I use firefox and gmail too. I don't see what I send to the list, either > as the start of a thread or a reply. You may have to CC yourself > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:15 PM Bill Martz > wrote: > > > I am using Firefox and Gmail. Thanks, anyway. > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:45 PM Niranjan Rao wrote: > > > >> On 2/22/21 10:39 AM, Bill Martz wrote: > >> > >> This has been going on for quite a while, and fortunately I have gotten > >> answers anyway: > >> > >> When I send an email to the users list, the only replies I see are when > >> someone replies to someone else's initial reply to my post. For example, > >> > >> Patrick Shanahan apparently replied to my post, Open/Close Behavior of > >> darkroom Left Hand Modules, but I didn't receive it. When Juan Navarro > >> replied to Patrick's reply, I received that. > >> > >> I see replies by Patrick to other people's posts all the time, so I don't > >> understand why it doesn't work for me. As far as I can tell, I am seeing > >> everyone else's posts and all the replies to them. > >> > >> Is anyone able to give me a fix for this issue? > >> > >> Bill Martz > >> > >> P.S. If you would include this address in your reply, I hope to be able > >> to see it: > >> > >> bill.in.michi...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > >> > >> > >> Are you using thunderbird by any chance? I have seen similar behavior > >> when using thunderbird and mailing lists. My postings do not show up in the > >> list, but responses do. > >> > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org when you post a msg, gmail see it. if the list then post the *same* msg, gmail see it as a duplicate and does not show it again. fwiw, gmail has always been this way. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Open/Close Behavior of darkroom Left Hand Modules
* Bill Martz [02-21-21 21:35]: > I am running darktable-3.5.0+1034~g530a4808b-win64.exe on Win 10; I was > running darktable-3.5.0+1170~gb428b0d7f-win64.exe earlier today. Up until > now, when I opened a module on the left side in darkroom, it stayed open > when I opened any other module. Earlier today, I closed an image out of > darkroom, picked another in lighttable, and opened it in darkroom. At that > point, I could only open one module on the left-hand side at a time. This > evening, I installed the newer version, but the problem remains. I didn't > change anything in settings; I don't even see anything in settings that > controls this. Can anyone help me get the old behavior back? in the configuration, "gear wheel" icon select darkroom and look at the lower half "modules" the third item "expand a single processing module at a time" you apparently have it selected. I do not. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Again... SD-Card import on Win10
* Tom Whale [02-21-21 13:42]: > > On 21.02.2021 at 19:27 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > The easiest way is to use Windows' file manager to copy the files to a > > designated folder and then import into DT from there. > > Well, yes. But I rather like to import from the sd-card, the files > should be copied to a given folder (global preferences -> import -> > 'base directory naming pattern') and then put in the subfolders > '$(YEAR)\$(MONTH)' you want dt to be your file-manager, but you already have one. you are on windows but the *inux's tend to separate functions and do each function well rather than one does everything approach. I have crafted a script to copy from flash-card, rename files and place them on the hard-drive ready to import into dt. I doubt you will find a developer that will see your particular needs as pressing. but ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable as gimp plugin (windows 10)
* Ulrich vor dem Esche [02-15-21 19:36]: > Hey everyone, > i use darktable (same problem in 3.4.1.1 or 3.4.0, on Windows 10) as a > plugin for gimp, that means, i try to open a raw file with gimp, gimp > then triggers darktable to take over. Some things look weird though, > most notably my 'tone curve' is invisible, including the grid and the > histogram that are usually shown there. When i open a raw file with > darktable directly it all works fine. While experimenting with this i > used some other themes in darktable, and found out that the theme only > gets applied when i use darktable directly, not when i use it as a > plugin. I can check the settings when using darktable as a plugin, i > can see that a theme is selected. > I would guess that these two things are connected; the tone curve is > invisible because the active theme is not being applied. Not a huge > problem, i can use the rgb curve instead of the tone curve, but still > a weird bug.. sounds like a candidate for a bug report: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new?assignees===bug_report.md= -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?
* Patrick Shanahan [02-15-21 18:19]:
> * DougC [02-15-21 17:20]:
> > You are correct that most visual processes, especially writing, move from
> > top to bottom. Having the stack grow from bottom to top is part of the
> > "techie" nature of darktable.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:24:51 -0500 KOVÁCS István
> > wrote
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 20:37, Urs Schütz <mailto:u.sch...@bluewin.ch>
> > wrote:
> > > @kneops
> > > My two cents:
> > > Darktable pipelines work from bottom to top. [...]
> > > The developers choosed "from bottom to top"
> >
> > I think it may be reasonable to add an option to flip the visual order
> > (so not completely free reordering, just a boolean top-to-bottom
> > ('page-order') or bottom-up ('stack-like') display choice). My
> > reasoning is that in Western writing systems, we read and write from
> > top to bottom. I understand that the pipeline is also called a
> > 'stack', and the 'last' element on the stack means 'the most recently
> > pushed one', and it's at the top. But, I guess, for many users, a
> > presentation where the last element of the history is at the bottom;
> > where one of the the first modules to apply (such as exposure) appears
> > near the top of the page, not near the bottom; where the pipeline, in
> > execution order, is displayed top-to-bottom, is a very logical
> > expectation.
> >
> > Kofa
> >
> >
> > darktable user mailing list
> > to unsubscribe send a mail to
> > mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
> >
> > darktable user mailing list
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> >
>
> not "techie" but as expected. a stack grows from botton to top.
>
> you are making definitions to but darktable in a different light. it is
> what it is and you are perfectly able to program it into what you wish,
> but you must do so. it appears you want others to make changes they do
> not think appropriate, necessary or worth effort to accomodate you.
s/but/put/
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Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?
* DougC [02-15-21 17:20]:
> You are correct that most visual processes, especially writing, move from top
> to bottom. Having the stack grow from bottom to top is part of the "techie"
> nature of darktable.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:24:51 -0500 KOVÁCS István
> wrote
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 20:37, Urs Schütz <mailto:u.sch...@bluewin.ch> wrote:
> > @kneops
> > My two cents:
> > Darktable pipelines work from bottom to top. [...]
> > The developers choosed "from bottom to top"
>
> I think it may be reasonable to add an option to flip the visual order
> (so not completely free reordering, just a boolean top-to-bottom
> ('page-order') or bottom-up ('stack-like') display choice). My
> reasoning is that in Western writing systems, we read and write from
> top to bottom. I understand that the pipeline is also called a
> 'stack', and the 'last' element on the stack means 'the most recently
> pushed one', and it's at the top. But, I guess, for many users, a
> presentation where the last element of the history is at the bottom;
> where one of the the first modules to apply (such as exposure) appears
> near the top of the page, not near the bottom; where the pipeline, in
> execution order, is displayed top-to-bottom, is a very logical
> expectation.
>
> Kofa
>
> darktable user mailing list
> to unsubscribe send a mail to
> mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
>
> darktable user mailing list
> to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
>
not "techie" but as expected. a stack grows from botton to top.
you are making definitions to but darktable in a different light. it is
what it is and you are perfectly able to program it into what you wish,
but you must do so. it appears you want others to make changes they do
not think appropriate, necessary or worth effort to accomodate you.
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Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?
* Willy Williams [02-15-21 09:25]: > I have to wonder if there's a publicly-available document that outlines the > reasons for the pipe to be as it is such that those of us users that are not > developers can understand the pipe and appreciate the thinking that went > into the design of the pipe? > > Willy Williams > > -- > > "You don't take a picture. You ask quietly and humbly to borrow it." > > - Unknown > > -- > > On 2/15/21 7:52 AM, Pascal Obry wrote: > > Le lundi 15 février 2021 à 13:30 +0100, Kneops a écrit : > > > Okay. This has nothing to do by the way from what I used to do with > > > other tools, > > Then use another tool. > > > > > it's the way imho the mind and the eye works. When I open > > > an image and it is too dark or too bright, I want to correct that > > > first. > > > Then I see it is a bit too yellow, then I want to correct that. Then > > > perhaps cropping and straightening etc. The visual ordering of > > > modules should have nothing to do with the pipeline. > > Then you completely miss the fact that the order IS important as they > > are run through the pipe in a specific order and so does interact in > > different way if no at the same location. That would be like saying > > that the mask in GIMP should be rearranged without having any impact on > > the final rendering. This is just plain wrong, and if you don't want to > > understand that or that is not the way you want the tool to be working > > then fine... Please use another tool. This won't change in dt because > > it cannot be changed. > > > > > This makes me feel again that DT is mostly for techies. > > No, but people who understand what they do. > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org perhaps the fine documentation, https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/darkroom/pixelpipe/the-pixelpipe-and-module-order/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?
* DougC [02-15-21 08:36]: > This is NOT a request to change the pipeline order, as some have wrongly > responded. > > > > I do not understand why the devs who have responded to this request are so > adamantly against it. They have yet to actually say why this is a problem. > > > > Why does the order displayed in the GUI have to always reflect the pipeline > order? Why not allow someone to display the modules in the order they prefer > in a "favorites" tab, while retaining the actual pipeline order during > processing? why don't you make a feature request accompanied with your explanation so it is understood? https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new?assignees===feature_request.md= -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] exiv2, darktable, AVIF, metadata, and ExifTool
* Top Rock Photography [02-05-21 13:09]: > Okay, I compiled gwenview 20.12.2, and, during compilation, it seems that > it uses exiv2, and only recognises FITS, JPEG (JFIF/SPIFF ???), PNG, > SVG,TIFF, & WebP. No indication of AVIF support. > > Installed, and found no AVIF support. (& if it did, would not recognise the > metadata). > > Will try with Geeqie per Šarūnas Burdulis. > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 20:24, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Top Rock Photography [02-04-21 19:44]: > > > Ah! Another compile for me. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has Gwenview 19.12.3, and it > > > does not recognise AVIF files. I see that version 20.12.2 is out. I have > > > just downloaded it, and will try to compile it tomorrow. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > P.s., does it use Exiv2 or ExifTool for metadata? I do have the latest > > > ExivTool with AVIF support. ;-) > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Karim Hosein > > > Top Rock Photography > > > 754.999.1652 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 17:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gwenview displays avif files but not exif data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appears libexiv2.so.27 (on openSUSE Tumbleweed). > > > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > works fine on openSUSE Tumbleweed! -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] exiv2, darktable, AVIF, metadata, and ExifTool
* Top Rock Photography [02-04-21 19:44]: > Ah! Another compile for me. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has Gwenview 19.12.3, and it > does not recognise AVIF files. I see that version 20.12.2 is out. I have > just downloaded it, and will try to compile it tomorrow. > > Thanks. > > P.s., does it use Exiv2 or ExifTool for metadata? I do have the latest > ExivTool with AVIF support. ;-) > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 17:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > gwenview displays avif files but not exif data. > > > > > appears libexiv2.so.27 (on openSUSE Tumbleweed). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] exiv2, darktable, AVIF, metadata, and ExifTool
* Top Rock Photography [02-04-21 16:16]: > On trying to get metadata into my AVIF files, I discovered a few things…. > > The AVIF files which darktable version 3.4.0 (compiled from source on > Ubuntu 20.04 LTS) produces do have EXIF metadata. They do not appear to > have IPTC —I may be wrong on that— nor XMP metadata. (Indeed, the WebP > files which darktable produces also seem to lack IPTC/XMP metadata, > although they do have EXIF metadata). > > Exiv2 vesion 0.27.3 cannot read nor write metadata to nor from an AVIF file > —which makes me wonder how the metadata got into the AVIF files which > darktable writes. > > Exiftool version 11.86, (library version 11.88, WTDickens?!?), does read, > write, and copy metadata in/out of AVIF files, including, apparently, IPTC, > and XMP metadata, (although I did not actually check on IPTC data yet, it > does copy XMP data for certain). I mention this because I had previously > suggested that ExifTool does not r/w/c metadata to/from AVIF files. > > So, thank you, darktable developers, for giving me my EXIF data in my AVIF > (and, of course, WebP) files. Now if I can only find a viewer —other than > Chrome, Chromium, & Firefox— which can view an AVIF, and also, which can > display its metadata. ;-) > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 14:10, Top Rock Photography < > ka...@toprockphotography.com> wrote: > > > My only concern is that, although AVIF is not patent encumbered, he > > refused to add the reading/writing of metadata data to AVIF, until he > > speaks to a lawyer. That has been quite a long time ago and so, my AVIF > > files made by darktable seem to have no metadata. > > > > … > > > > > Currently, Exiftool is no better (in that regard). Worse yet, aside from > > the most popular browsers, (Firefox, Chrome/Chromium), I cannot find a > > viewer for AVIF files. > > > > I have other issues on AVIF support, but this is not the thread for that. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Karim Hosein > > Top Rock Photography > > 754.999.1652 > > > > > > > > > >> > >> a: How will this affect DT? > >> b: Supplementary question: Would exiftool be an alternative for DT? > >> > >> > gwenview displays avif files but not exif data. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?
* Victor [02-02-21 10:29]: > I developed a raw image (DSC00662.ARW) taken with my sony a6600 with both DT > and RT using minimal intervention (see attached DT xmp file and RT pp3 > file). As you can see from the details I enclosed in this message the RT > resulting image looks by far better in terms of sharpness with respect to > the DT one. > > Why is that and is there anything I can do to improve DT performance as far > as sharpness is concerned? > > Here is the link to the dropbox directory containing all the relevant files > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2iojfjmnu9ronoa/AADu4kLIm_rD_L6AhXGvBUNMa?dl=0 maybe just appearance difference due to differing color and intensity. how do you compare the to me minor sharpness difference when the images are not duplicates in the other aspects? at 100% parts of the dt generated image appear sharper. in fact, to my eye most of the dt image is sharper and better displayed. the rt image appears too bright. remember: "in the eye of the beholder". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Watermark and Framing removal
* Andrew Greig [02-02-21 00:47]: > Hi All, > > I can find no reference to removing framing and watermark for a batch of > images. I have 450 images which I Watermarked and Framed in Darktable, > specifically for submissions to Instagram. Now I want to generate some full > size jpg images without Watermark or Framing. I looked at the "CopyParts" > section of the Lighttable, but I am concerned that although removing the > Framing and watermark it may also add the rest of the modules in my history > stack, and I would be keen to avoid that. make duplicates in darktable of subject images and work on the dups. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] exiv2 and darktable
* Top Rock Photography [01-29-21 21:14]: > My only demand is that the lawyer gets on the phone and speak to the AOM > people. It has been almost one year! IANAL…. > > …But I have read the AOM license,, and I have studied the case of Nokia vs > the other members of AOM, and HEIF. In that case, all the other lawyers > claim that a) Nokia never held a patent on the parts of HEIF used in > AV1/AVIF, and, whatever patent they claim to have would have already > expired. > > That leaves all remaining patents within the powers of AOM and their > licensing. > > The issue was not coding, but waiting to hear from the lawyer…. for almost > a year. Robin Mills was willing to work on the code at one point, but > several people kept claiming that, despite the publicly available license, > and the work done by clothes, (including Exiftool), that Mills cannot put > any code which reads the metadata (forget about even writing it), into > exiv2. It ended with him running out of time, because no lawyer got back to > give the go-ahead, (or to affirm that it could not be done). Ergo, it will > not be done for exiv2 version 0.28. > > Well, that is what the closed, feature request thread says. (It does not > say, “about a year,” but it has been over a year since the thread/response > was started, and mills giving his stance on 0.28 was almost a year ago). > > Sincerely, > > Karim Hosein > Top Rock Photography > 754.999.1652 > > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 17:19, Martin Straeten > wrote: > > > Why don’t you take over the responsibility for the project? And be fully > > accountable for a possible copyright or patent infringement? > > It is presumptuous to demand something from others that you are not > > willing to contribute yourself. > > > > Am 29.01.2021 um 20:11 schrieb Top Rock Photography < > > ka...@toprockphotography.com>: > > > > > > My only concern is that, although AVIF is not patent encumbered, he > > refused to add the reading/writing of metadata data to AVIF, until he > > speaks to a lawyer. That has been quite a long time ago and so, my AVIF > > files made by darktable seem to have no metadata. > > > > Currently, Exiftool is no better (in that regard). Worse yet, aside from > > the most popular browsers, (Firefox, Chrome/Chromium), I cannot find a > > viewer for AVIF files. > > > > Does one really need a lawyer to work for over one year to decide that the > > reading/writing of metadata in an AVIF does NOT violate any patents not > > covered by the open license? Is his lawyer billing him at US$20,000 per day? > > > > I am confident that the exiv2 project will be taken over. I just hope that > > whoever takes it over has a lawyer who knows how to make phone calls and/or > > write letters. > > > > I have other issues on AVIF support, but this is not the thread for that. > > > > > >> > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > = > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org but leaves you free to fork the project and include support for avif and no longer wait for the laywers. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Geo Location Question
* David Vincent-Jones [01-28-21 21:18]: > I am now using a camera/phone that provides lat/lon image data. Some of the > images are located with very fine accuracy on the dt mapping layer but some > are mis-located by a very large distance (a mile or so). Any idea what is > going on? maybe it is the "map source" you have chosen. have you tried others? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows Nightly Builds
* Terry Pinfold [01-27-21 17:00]: > DNG files can be treated like a RAW file. Some cameras, like Pentax even > offer it as a RAW file format instead of PEF. Therefore much better than > Tiff file. Especially with adjustments such as white balance. Of course > when we can do CR3 files in darktable that would be better than Tiff or > DNG. Sounds like CR3 files will be working soon in Darktable as they have > resolved the legal issue from my reading. > > > On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 08:46, Michael wrote: > > > What is this fascination with DNG files? Isn’t TIFF better? > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 2:09 PM Martin Straeten > > wrote: > > > > > > No need to file an issue ... known since first upcoming of cr3. > > > darktable doesn‘t support cr3 since the basic exiv2 library doesn’t > > support cr3 yet due to legal implications (canon wasn’t able to give a > > clear statement in this). It seems a solution was found so cr3 might be > > supported with the next version. > > > You can use cr3 files after converting them to dng. > > > https://discuss.pixls.us/search?q=cr3 > > > > > > Am 22.01.2021 um 19:59 schrieb Ankit Peer : > > > > > > > > > Hi Bill/Martin, > > > > > > thank you both for your responses. > > > > > > I have searched but didn't find any existing relevant discussion on the > > issue I am getting. > > > > > > the installation on my Win10 went fine. I can do things on a tiff or jpg > > but when it comes to importing a raw CR3 file, the system throws a message > > stating "error loading file" I have tried with multiple different raw files > > but I got the same result. > > > > > > So the question is, does darktable support CR3 format? If yes, then how > > can we address this. > > > > > > Best, > > > Ankit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:03 AM Bill Martz < > > broccoli.salad.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Thanks, Martin. Big learning curve for me, but I will work on it. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 1:14 AM Martin Straeten < > > martin.strae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> No, you’re looking at the right place. There seems to be some issues > > in setting up the ci environment for windows. > > >>> Best way is to build it yourself - the description in > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/tree/master/packaging/windows > > is quite good (but a setup in a ci environment is a different thing) > > >>> > > >>> Am 19.01.2021 um 03:21 schrieb Bill Martz < > > broccoli.salad.s...@gmail.com>: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I have the location of the nightly builds as > > >>> > > >>> https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/actions?query=workflow%3A > > "Nightly+PKG" > > >>> > > >>> What I see is there have not been any successful builds in 21 days. Am > > I looking in the wrong place? > > >>> > > >>> > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > >>> = > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ankit > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > really, which is better depends on context. tiff is a standard and dng is what the converter/generator thinks it should be. tiff will repeat and dng may not. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Which documentation to use?
* darkta...@911networks.com [01-18-21 23:09]: > There is: > > http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/ > > and > > https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/index.html > > are they the same? Which one should I use? if you looked at them, surely you noticed a difference. use the one that is for the version of darktable you utilize. should be very easy to make that choice. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Usage and modifying description/title metadata fields
* Niranjan Rao [01-18-21 10:41]: > I exported a image with description and title. None of the tools on Ubuntu > showed it me though exiftool showed it to me. I was thinking there is some > other use for these fields. > > > Thank you, > > Niranjan > On 1/17/21 10:16 PM, Remco Viëtor wrote:ough > > On lundi 18 janvier 2021 04:43:13 CET Niranjan Rao wrote: > > > Ubuntu 20.04, darktable 2.4.1 > > > > > > > > > Apologies if this sounds really dumb question, but I am trying to figure > > > out what's the usage of fields like description/title. I could not > > > figure out a way to edit these fields from darkroom view, but lightroom > > > allows me to set the values. > > > > > > > > > If you set title and/or description, are there any other tools - may be > > > like web browser or file explorer like tools that can show the > > > information on mouse hover or something. I think it will really neat if > > > functionality already exists. > > > > > > At least on Ubuntu, I did not see title/description displayed in default > > > image viewer or image properties even though it shows other information. > > > > > For raw files (and perhaps other formats as well), dt doesn't write to the > > original image file, and I don't think image viewers bother with sidecar > > files. So your image viewer doesn't get to see the title and description > > (nor > > tags/keywords you added!) > > > > You get the description and title fields written in exported files (if you > > didn't change that), and then your image viewer should pick them up. > > > > Remco > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org piwigo web albums can and do use those fields, iianm -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
* Bruce Williams [01-18-21 05:36]: > Patrick, > Thanks for the info, although I don't know how to create an alias. Do those > commands go inside the bash script? > Also, I followed your advice to create folders inside .config (except I > called them darktable-3.4 and darktable-master) and then point the bash > scripts to those folders. > But when I launch darktable 3.4 from the bash script, it creates new > library.db, data.db etc in .config/darktable (not the folder > .config/darktable-3.4) script ??? you must start dt from the command line using the command I provided but changed to fit the way you named the config directories. the following command line invocations will accomplish that, darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-3.4 darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-master and library.db and data.db will be in the *correct* directories. there is no script involved and any script that you used probably did not have any idea of where you placed your new config directories. it was probably coded to default to the normail installation location, ie: ~/.config/darktable again, to start and use darktable master version, invoke darktable from the command line as: darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-master to use darktable version 3.4: darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable-3.4 note: using "-" in directory or file names is ill advised and asking for problems. about "alias", your ~/.bashrc must provided for it and more, another subject for another time. please for now, forget it. the commands above may be placed in scrpts to make it easier to call. I can help with that if you wish. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Visibility of Rating
* David Vincent-Jones [01-17-21 16:29]: > I do not see either the star rating or the color labels when the cursor is > no longer over the thumbnail. Where is the toggle switch for this? same place it has been, gear wheel upper center right on lighttable view. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
* Bruce Williams [01-17-21 15:41]: > Michael, > Thanks for the suggested tweaks to my bash scripts. > Despite implementing those changes, I'm still unable to save presets of > Collected Images in 3.4, but CAN still save new presets of Collected IMages > in my master (3.5) branch. > Also, 3.5 is still seeing all the same presets I've created in 3.4. > #baffled move ~/.config/darktable to ~/.config/darktable.34 and copy to ~/.config/darktable.35 then call darktable version 3.4 as darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34 and version 3.5 as darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35 and I would create aliases rather than the long command lines. alias dt34='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.34' alias dt35='darktable --configdir ~/.config/darktable.35' should accomplish what you desire note that you will start with matching configurations, only differences will show after you start using -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
; > the root file system. As long as my chassis and motherboard can handle it > > I can > > keep adding 'bulk storage'. If all fails I can add a NFS server for the > > purely > > 'data' storage, and the image files+sidebars fall into that category. > > > > So: what do you mean by 'Collections'? > > > > /a > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > ____ > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org I don't see that anything has changed with the "folder hierarchy". I am still able to sort on directory as I have been as long as I can remember. and collections still work as before, they are merly another way to sort and they still work as they have as long as I can remember. there are more possible parameters, objects to sort upon. What seems to be the problem? the only changes I notice are enhancements to the existing sorting methods. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems importing jpg-images
* Thomas Schweikle [01-15-21 18:37]: > Hi! > > Importing jpeg-images gives color-failures within these images. Red-, > yellow- or blueish. Any config to change to import jpegs > without color-failures? I do not experience this, but I have absolutely no idea about your system, dt version, camera, photo subject, happens all the time, only sometimes, never on Sunday, ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Strange import behaviour - resolved
* KOVÁCS István [01-06-21 00:48]: > So, it is my understanding that you physically remove images without > removing them from darktable's database. In that case, you're inviting > trouble. When you're done (exported everything etc.), you should > select the images and click 'Remove' (not 'Delete'!!!). Removing them > before moving the files will keep your database clean. > BTW, the 'collect' module is just a strangely named 'filter'. but a "collection" is the result of a filter so in this case to collect is to filter out unwanted images, ie: "filter". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* David Vincent-Jones [01-05-21 13:02]: > One further comment: For new users not having 'recursive' as a basis for > importing may well lead to substantial thrashing. I do understand why one > may wish to change the value but the default should, in my view, be > recursive. > > On 2021-01-05 9:33 a.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [01-05-21 12:27]: > > > Thank you Patrick ... you are always a fountain of knowledge. I am > > > surprised > > > that such a basic item is located differently in the various versions. > > > > > > On 2021-01-04 8:16 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > > > > > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple folder > > > > > levels > > > > > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to set the > > > > > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. .. Will > > > > > somebody please jog my old memory. > > > > since you provide little information about your system and/or darktable, > > > > this answer may not be what you are looking for, but that's on you. > > > > > > > > on the latest linux master at the time writing this, it resides in the > > > > import bar, presets -> preferences > > > > > > > > tomorrow may be different. > > 3.4.1 will probably be the same as I don't believe backports are being > > applied to 3.4.0 but one *usually* works a group of images just transferred from the camera card and *usually* to one location and in this sense, non-recursive would be the expected default. if one procrastinates and imports larger and/or multiple groups of images at one time, recursive *might* be a better choice. but now we are at the same point of using a card-reader or importing directly from the camera. I personally cannot understand wasting my precious expensive camera batteries for transferring files. or the related inherent clumsiness with my aged arthritic fingers. different strokes ... take more pictures and less ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* David Vincent-Jones [01-05-21 12:27]: > Thank you Patrick ... you are always a fountain of knowledge. I am surprised > that such a basic item is located differently in the various versions. > > On 2021-01-04 8:16 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > > > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple folder levels > > > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to set the > > > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. .. Will > > > somebody please jog my old memory. > > since you provide little information about your system and/or darktable, > > this answer may not be what you are looking for, but that's on you. > > > > on the latest linux master at the time writing this, it resides in the > > import bar, presets -> preferences > > > > tomorrow may be different. 3.4.1 will probably be the same as I don't believe backports are being applied to 3.4.0 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* Willy Williams [01-05-21 11:55]: > I'm not saying that I'm trying to change the levels shown. I am saying that > when I open darktable, the preferences show 3 levels as previously noted, > yet darktablerc shows 1 level. No changes have been made in preferences or > in darktablerc since 3.4.0 came out on 12/24/20. Just sayin'. > > Willy Williams > > ** > > On 1/5/2021 at 10:23, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Willy Williams [01-05-21 10:17]: > > > Even more interesting! I'm on Windows 10 (2 machines), with levels set to > > > "3" in preferences, yet darktablerc still shows levels set to "1". I'm > > > using the general release of darktable 3.4.0, not a daily compilation. > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > ** > > > > > > On 1/5/2021 at 10:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Willy Williams [01-05-21 09:56]: > > > > > Interesting! On my machines, I still can get to the setting for > > > > > folder > > > > > levels under [Preferences / lighttable / number of folders to show in > > > > > lists] > > > > > where it is set to 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if I look in darktablerc, I see . It appears that Preferences > > > > > overrides darktablerc. True or false? > > > > > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/2021 at 7:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > * Jim Robinson [01-05-21 05:45]: > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > > > > > > > > > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple > > > > > > > > > folder levels > > > > > > > > > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to > > > > > > > > > set the > > > > > > > > > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. > > > > > > > > > .. Will > > > > > > > > > somebody please jog my old memory. > > > > > > > I think that I am observing the same issue with master compiled > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > (3.5.0+426~g3e30462e8) on both Windows and linux. > > > > > > > Under 'collect images - folders' the 'selection box' is now a > > > > > > > single row in > > > > > > > height with a scroll bar on the right, rather than the old drop > > > > > > > down list > > > > > > > and this is independent of the number of folder levels selected > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > preferences. I have yet to explore backwards in commits, but > > > > > > > there seem to > > > > > > > have been a number of changes to 'collect' recently. Maybe this > > > > > > > change is > > > > > > > intentional, but I find it very inconvenient. > > > > > > on further investigation, I find no setting the the > > > > > > configuration/gear-wheel setting menu(s) any more for depth of > > > > > > directories > > > > > > processed during import, but one may edit > > > > > > ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc > > > > > > and adjust "show_folder_levels=#". Mine is set to > > > > > > "show_folder_levels=5". > > > > preferences are stored in darktablerc and you must exit darktable, then > > > > make changes to darktablerc, then reopen darktable for the changes to be > > > > active. > > > > > > > > I am on linux and using master. I don't know what operating system or > > > > version of dt you use, display may not be the same and making > > > > assumptions > > > > *only* leads to more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > close dt, edit darktablerc to set "show_folder_levels=" to what you > > desire, save and reopen dt. do you now have what you want? may be a bug > > that is fixed in 3.4.1 when it is released. may even be documented. > > > > works for me on master > but *which* darktablerc indicates "1"? the *original* darktablerc which is part of the package install and not local to *your* user account comes with "1" as default. when you make changes to your darktable configuration, they are saved in the darktablerc *local* to your . and it is not the same as the original version provided on package installation. as I said, the linux "user" version is at ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* Patrick Shanahan [01-05-21 10:28]: > * Willy Williams [01-05-21 10:17]: > > Even more interesting! I'm on Windows 10 (2 machines), with levels set to > > "3" in preferences, yet darktablerc still shows levels set to "1". I'm > > using the general release of darktable 3.4.0, not a daily compilation. > > > > Willy Williams > > > > ****** > > > > On 1/5/2021 at 10:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Willy Williams [01-05-21 09:56]: > > > > Interesting! On my machines, I still can get to the setting for folder > > > > levels under [Preferences / lighttable / number of folders to show in > > > > lists] > > > > where it is set to 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if I look in darktablerc, I see . It appears that Preferences > > > > overrides darktablerc. True or false? > > > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/2021 at 7:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > * Jim Robinson [01-05-21 05:45]: > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > > > > > > > > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple > > > > > > > > folder levels > > > > > > > > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to set > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. .. > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > somebody please jog my old memory. > > > > > > I think that I am observing the same issue with master compiled > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > (3.5.0+426~g3e30462e8) on both Windows and linux. > > > > > > Under 'collect images - folders' the 'selection box' is now a > > > > > > single row in > > > > > > height with a scroll bar on the right, rather than the old drop > > > > > > down list > > > > > > and this is independent of the number of folder levels selected in > > > > > > the > > > > > > preferences. I have yet to explore backwards in commits, but there > > > > > > seem to > > > > > > have been a number of changes to 'collect' recently. Maybe this > > > > > > change is > > > > > > intentional, but I find it very inconvenient. > > > > > on further investigation, I find no setting the the > > > > > configuration/gear-wheel setting menu(s) any more for depth of > > > > > directories > > > > > processed during import, but one may edit > > > > > ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc > > > > > and adjust "show_folder_levels=#". Mine is set to > > > > > "show_folder_levels=5". > > > preferences are stored in darktablerc and you must exit darktable, then > > > make changes to darktablerc, then reopen darktable for the changes to be > > > active. > > > > > > I am on linux and using master. I don't know what operating system or > > > version of dt you use, display may not be the same and making assumptions > > > *only* leads to more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > close dt, edit darktablerc to set "show_folder_levels=" to what you > desire, save and reopen dt. do you now have what you want? may be a bug > that is fixed in 3.4.1 when it is released. may even be documented. > > works for me on master and as mentioned by someone a few minutes ago, make sure the darktablerc you are editing is the one local to the user, not the one installed from the darktable package. whatever equates to linux /home//.config/darktable/darktablerc I don't know windows system locations. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* Willy Williams [01-05-21 10:17]: > Even more interesting! I'm on Windows 10 (2 machines), with levels set to > "3" in preferences, yet darktablerc still shows levels set to "1". I'm > using the general release of darktable 3.4.0, not a daily compilation. > > Willy Williams > > ****** > > On 1/5/2021 at 10:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Willy Williams [01-05-21 09:56]: > > > Interesting! On my machines, I still can get to the setting for folder > > > levels under [Preferences / lighttable / number of folders to show in > > > lists] > > > where it is set to 3. > > > > > > > > > Yet, if I look in darktablerc, I see . It appears that Preferences > > > overrides darktablerc. True or false? > > > > > > Willy Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/2021 at 7:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Jim Robinson [01-05-21 05:45]: > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > > > > > > > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple folder > > > > > > > levels > > > > > > > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to set > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. .. > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > somebody please jog my old memory. > > > > > I think that I am observing the same issue with master compiled > > > > > yesterday > > > > > (3.5.0+426~g3e30462e8) on both Windows and linux. > > > > > Under 'collect images - folders' the 'selection box' is now a single > > > > > row in > > > > > height with a scroll bar on the right, rather than the old drop down > > > > > list > > > > > and this is independent of the number of folder levels selected in the > > > > > preferences. I have yet to explore backwards in commits, but there > > > > > seem to > > > > > have been a number of changes to 'collect' recently. Maybe this > > > > > change is > > > > > intentional, but I find it very inconvenient. > > > > on further investigation, I find no setting the the > > > > configuration/gear-wheel setting menu(s) any more for depth of > > > > directories > > > > processed during import, but one may edit > > > > ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc > > > > and adjust "show_folder_levels=#". Mine is set to > > > > "show_folder_levels=5". > > preferences are stored in darktablerc and you must exit darktable, then > > make changes to darktablerc, then reopen darktable for the changes to be > > active. > > > > I am on linux and using master. I don't know what operating system or > > version of dt you use, display may not be the same and making assumptions > > *only* leads to more confusion. > > > > > > close dt, edit darktablerc to set "show_folder_levels=" to what you desire, save and reopen dt. do you now have what you want? may be a bug that is fixed in 3.4.1 when it is released. may even be documented. works for me on master -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* Willy Williams [01-05-21 09:56]: > Interesting! On my machines, I still can get to the setting for folder > levels under [Preferences / lighttable / number of folders to show in lists] > where it is set to 3. > > > Yet, if I look in darktablerc, I see . It appears that Preferences > overrides darktablerc. True or false? > > Willy Williams > > **** > > On 1/5/2021 at 7:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Jim Robinson [01-05-21 05:45]: > > > * David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > > > > > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple folder > > > > > levels > > > > > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to set the > > > > > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. .. Will > > > > > somebody please jog my old memory. > > > I think that I am observing the same issue with master compiled yesterday > > > (3.5.0+426~g3e30462e8) on both Windows and linux. > > > Under 'collect images - folders' the 'selection box' is now a single row > > > in > > > height with a scroll bar on the right, rather than the old drop down list > > > and this is independent of the number of folder levels selected in the > > > preferences. I have yet to explore backwards in commits, but there seem > > > to > > > have been a number of changes to 'collect' recently. Maybe this change is > > > intentional, but I find it very inconvenient. > > on further investigation, I find no setting the the > > configuration/gear-wheel setting menu(s) any more for depth of directories > > processed during import, but one may edit ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc > > and adjust "show_folder_levels=#". Mine is set to "show_folder_levels=5". preferences are stored in darktablerc and you must exit darktable, then make changes to darktablerc, then reopen darktable for the changes to be active. I am on linux and using master. I don't know what operating system or version of dt you use, display may not be the same and making assumptions *only* leads to more confusion. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* Jim Robinson [01-05-21 05:45]: > * David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > > > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple folder levels > > > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to set the > > > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. .. Will > > > somebody please jog my old memory. > > > I think that I am observing the same issue with master compiled yesterday > (3.5.0+426~g3e30462e8) on both Windows and linux. > Under 'collect images - folders' the 'selection box' is now a single row in > height with a scroll bar on the right, rather than the old drop down list > and this is independent of the number of folder levels selected in the > preferences. I have yet to explore backwards in commits, but there seem to > have been a number of changes to 'collect' recently. Maybe this change is > intentional, but I find it very inconvenient. on further investigation, I find no setting the the configuration/gear-wheel setting menu(s) any more for depth of directories processed during import, but one may edit ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc and adjust "show_folder_levels=#". Mine is set to "show_folder_levels=5". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] folder levels
* David Vincent-Jones [01-04-21 22:19]: > After a rebuild I am finding that I am not seeing multiple folder levels > at 'collect images' ... as I remember there is a switch to set the > number of levels but I do not remember where it is or was. .. Will > somebody please jog my old memory. since you provide little information about your system and/or darktable, this answer may not be what you are looking for, but that's on you. on the latest linux master at the time writing this, it resides in the import bar, presets -> preferences tomorrow may be different. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
* Tanya Riseman [01-04-21 18:20]: > You are supposed to use the tone equalizer module instead of the zone > system module now. According to the manual, zone system is deprecated. > > This really disappoints me. > > The zone system is pretty easy for beginners to pick up. (I've only used DT > since August.) The 2D image of the different zones in the picture is really > handy and I don't think it appears in any other modules. > > The tone equalizer is much harder to get up to speed with. It lacks a 2D > zone image. It only has crosshairs that correspond to a hard to understand > contrast mask, not the zone. Usually(?) in the dark regions, changes to the > EV levels don't have any effect if you are outside of the mask's range of > levels. Even if you optimize the mask. Very frustrating. You can kinda > match the zone system results sometimes but after a much longer time of > fiddling. It just is not a more generalized substitute for the zone system. > They behave differently. > > I'd appreciate it if the developers restored the zone system. color zones is still there, just hidden by default open an image in darkroom and just below the histogram is an input box where you can search for modules by name and maybe description. type "zone" and see what you get. ps: rtfm, it will help you and will describe the change to tone equalizer and how to get color zones back. don't be down on the developers because you haven't read the very fine manual. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera
* Willy Williams [01-01-21 14:32]: > When you open lighttable, you'll see an "import" function top left directly > under the darktable logo. Click on "import and you'll see two possibilities; > "image..." and "folder...". Assuming that you're looking for a folder on > your camera, click on "folder...". When the folder window pops up, look for > your camera and find the folder on your camera that contains your images. > Piece of cake! *only* if one bothers to rtfm :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.4 - a mighty tool!!
* Dr. A. Krebs [12-29-20 10:26]: [...] > -- > > One small question I have: dt is completely non-destructive. If a work on a > pic, I only see the _changed_ version, not the original version. > > How can I see both versions a the time to gain an overview? > > -- you have available snapshots and with the left panel visible, you can select a line in the history display and see how the image appeared at that step. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Download 3.4.0
* NEIL K <01myphoto...@gmail.com> [12-27-20 11:57]: > Hi > I was trying to download DT 3.4.0 after deleting previous DT on my PC using > Windows 10. > The download was blocked giving a message that It could harm your device. > Going further, learnt that Microsoft defender system advised this as > harmful. > Presently didnot download. > Need your help and advice asap. guess you will need to exempt dt (note lowercase) from m$ defender actions or turn off defender when you download and install dt. or use some other prophylactic. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Before ad after
* Lorenzo Fontanella [12-26-20 12:44]: > yes, like many I use the development queue. > However, if you need to see the "Before - After" keeping your eyes fixed on > the image, the button that can be combined with a keyboard shortcut would > be better. > Lorenzo Fontanella > > Il giorno sab 26 dic 2020 alle ore 16:57 Patrick Shanahan > ha scritto: > > > * Lorenzo Fontanella [12-26-20 10:20]: > > > Good morning, > > > is there any way to have it before | after without having to take a > > > snapshot every time > > > Furthermore, the snapshot does not take into account any possible zoom in > > > zoom out subsequent to its capture, and therefore obliges it to be > > > re-executed every time a zoom is taken. > > > > in darkroom mode, with the left panel visible, in the history table, > > select the bar/line for the edit you wish to see > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org then you need to file a "feature request" and provide all pertinent information requested. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Before ad after
* Lorenzo Fontanella [12-26-20 10:20]: > Good morning, > is there any way to have it before | after without having to take a > snapshot every time > Furthermore, the snapshot does not take into account any possible zoom in > zoom out subsequent to its capture, and therefore obliges it to be > re-executed every time a zoom is taken. in darkroom mode, with the left panel visible, in the history table, select the bar/line for the edit you wish to see -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] copy and paste setting
* Lorenzo Fontanella [12-26-20 10:12]: > Hello everyone, is there a way to copy and paste the settings from one > image to another without having to save a style every time? go to lighttable view and look at the history module on the right panel. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Cant find my config files for Darktable
* Andrew Greig [12-26-20 05:35]: > Hi All, > > Running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS system is up to date, DT 3.2.1 it is working fine > but I cannot find the config files. I would like to put a red border around > the selected thumbnails in LightTable, because the default is not easy to > distinguish between selected and not-selected. > > I found no config files among the Hidden Files in my Home dir, nothing in > /usr/local and the daktable.rc file makes no mention of the background color > of the thumbnails. > > Where else could the config files be lurking, please? look at /home//.config/darktable -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re-editing incredibly slow 3.2.1, 3.4
* nanoq [12-25-20 09:32]: > Dear all, > First things first: > Fedora 32, Intel I5, 32GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 970. > Currently DT 3.4., but same problem occurred under 3.2.1 as well. > I searched this list to find a thread where a similar problem was found > under Win10, without a real solution. Besides I doubt that Win10 and Linux > are comparable in this (and other) respect. > > When trying to re-edit a previously edited photo DT almost stalls. No matter > what I do, zoom in or out, retouch, move sliders it almost stalls. > Retouching a single spot using the healing tool takes about 2-5 minutes, > while one of the CPU-kernels is at 100% load, the other CPU-kernels are not > equally stressed. Yes I have CL enabled and running. > Meanwhile I can run any other apps without any noticeable slowdown. > > I found out that compressing the history stack "improves" things to like > 3-5seconds for retouching a single spot. > Editing new, that is photos that have not been previously edited, runs > smoothly. > > Any ideas? possibly config differences. I am on openSUSE Tumbleweed, compiling master, Nv GF GTX 450 36GB RAM and do not see that. try: mv ~/.config/darktable ~/.config/XXdarktable this will give you a clean config > And above all: Merry Christmas and stay healthy and to you and yours -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] No exif in exported images
* Patrick Shanahan [12-20-20 18:28]: > * Terry Duell [12-20-20 18:07]: > > Hello All, > > It looks like I may have inadvertently changed a setting in darktable. > > Exported images (jpg, png, tiff) no longer have all the relevant exif data. > > guess you would have to define "relevant exif data" for anyone to > understand. > > > I'm seeing this behaviour in a build of the current master (3.5.0). > > I downgraded to a build of a recent 3.3.0 and saw the same result. > > I've searched through all the settings but can't see a relevant setting, but > > that may be a case of domestic blindness. > > It has crossed my mind that a change in other software may be causing this > > (exiv2?) but that's a wild guess. > > I see and can post exif data from a freshly exported image that appears to > contain all the "relevant" exif data. > > > I'm running Fedora 33, if that's relevant. > > opensuse Tumbleweed 20201216 > > > Anyone else seeing a similar problem? > > not sure, but not that I can tell. > > I do get a warning, "Can't decrypt Nikon information (no ShutterCount > key)", but it is false as it does show the Shutter Count, 29670, fwiw: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/dse_9668.jpg you can look at the contained exif data, suggest exiftool dse_9668.jpg -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] No exif in exported images
* Terry Duell [12-20-20 18:07]: > Hello All, > It looks like I may have inadvertently changed a setting in darktable. > Exported images (jpg, png, tiff) no longer have all the relevant exif data. guess you would have to define "relevant exif data" for anyone to understand. > I'm seeing this behaviour in a build of the current master (3.5.0). > I downgraded to a build of a recent 3.3.0 and saw the same result. > I've searched through all the settings but can't see a relevant setting, but > that may be a case of domestic blindness. > It has crossed my mind that a change in other software may be causing this > (exiv2?) but that's a wild guess. I see and can post exif data from a freshly exported image that appears to contain all the "relevant" exif data. > I'm running Fedora 33, if that's relevant. opensuse Tumbleweed 20201216 > Anyone else seeing a similar problem? not sure, but not that I can tell. I do get a warning, "Can't decrypt Nikon information (no ShutterCount key)", but it is false as it does show the Shutter Count, 29670, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Leaving a module to conplete an operation?
* DougC [12-08-20 19:33]: > My question comes from a thread here on Perspective correction where it was > said: > > Leaving > (closing) the module finalizes the changes. > > > > > > > On Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:45:50 -0500 Stéphane Gourichon > wrote > > > Most modules get their effect applied continuously as you set the > parameters, they don't need you to leave them. > > Can you provide examples of modules that actually need you to > leave them to finalize the operation ? afaik, "perspective corrections" is the only module which requires leaving to finalize an action. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Willy Williams [12-08-20 13:30]: > I've tried the perspective correction on the NEF file provided by Petr and > can confirm that his assessment is accurate regarding the issue > experienced. I, too, do not see any small OK button anywhere in the photo. > If I apply the correction as Petr did, and subsequently move up the module > stack to Crop and Rotate, the change IS applied, but I am not able to apply > it from within the Perspective Correction module. > > I'm on v3.2.1 running on Win 10. > > Willy > > *** > > On 12/5/2020 at 10:02, Petr Bartel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Here is the RAW (nef Nikon Z6) > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view?usp=sharing > > > > Yes, please give it a try. > > > > Thank you > > > > -- Původní e-mail -- > > Od: paka > > Komu: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > > Datum: 5. 12. 2020 3:11:58 > > Předmět: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction > > > > > > > > > > * Petr Bartel [12-04-20 18:14]: > > > > > > Hi Gentlemen, > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay. I am attaching two screenshots > > > > > > - Perspective module is open (and apply just this time just > > ctrl+click on > > > get structure + crop the largest area) https://imgur.com/bDdSAMx > > > > > > - Perspective module closed by double click OR click on perspective > > > correction https://imgur.com/ondeUI6 > > > > > > If needed I can provide the original .nef RAW file. > > > > > > > please provide a link to the raw file > > > > I will perform the perspective correction documenting the actions > > I take > > and then export the photo and provide a link for you to see the > > result. > > > > I have not experienced what you describe and cannot get into my > > head why > > you are having the problem. Maybe we can solve it this way. > > > > gud luk, > > -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org yes, it is necessary to leave the perspective correction module in order to apply the action. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fwd: Issue with opening these image files
* Justin Abonce [12-07-20 16:03]: >My operating system is windows 10 and version wise, I really just > installed what the site itself is providing from anyone that stumbles upon > it w/ windows. I just want to know why I'm unable to select my image to > work on, because the only explaintion I'm getting is that JPEG and other > files work, yet my JPEG isn't working. I can understand if I'm not provided > much information on my issue, but I dont know what you want from me to help > anyone figure this out for me. I'm just 18 and just got into photography > for a class of mine, and I want to get to know more on editing my photos; > please don't expect me to know everything. > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 3:52 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Justin Abonce [12-07-20 15:42]: > > > -- Forwarded message - > > > From: Justin Abonce > > > Date: Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 3:08 PM > > > Subject: Issue with opening these image files > > > To: > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon to whom this may concern, > > > > > > I've been having an issue with opening these image files into your > > > software and I'm not really sure what the problem is. I hope you can get > > > back to me soon, as I want to experiment with the program itself. > > > [image: image.png] > > > [image: image.png][image: image.png] > > >I have here some possibly important information on one of the > > photos > > > I wish to use on your software. Thank you in advance. > > > > > > Justin Abonce > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > PLEASE, do not send images via email list, post on a file server such as > > google drive and provide a url. > > > > what is it that you expect anyone to be able to derive from the little > > information you provide? > > > > you show screen-shots of windows file properties > > you do not provide the operating system you use > > nor the version of darktable, where you got it, how you installed it > > nor the image for someone to try to import > > > > how would *you* solve your problem if someone else presented you with the > > same information? > > > > and this is not an attack on your character, merely the observance of a > > nearly impossible request. > > > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > ________ > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org what version of windows 10? what version of darktable? open darktable and look at the logo, the version is listed just below what is the website/location where you got darktable. post the file you cannot open on a file-sharing service such as google drive. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fwd: Issue with opening these image files
* Justin Abonce [12-07-20 15:42]: > -- Forwarded message - > From: Justin Abonce > Date: Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 3:08 PM > Subject: Issue with opening these image files > To: > > > Good afternoon to whom this may concern, > > I've been having an issue with opening these image files into your > software and I'm not really sure what the problem is. I hope you can get > back to me soon, as I want to experiment with the program itself. > [image: image.png] > [image: image.png][image: image.png] >I have here some possibly important information on one of the photos > I wish to use on your software. Thank you in advance. > > Justin Abonce > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org PLEASE, do not send images via email list, post on a file server such as google drive and provide a url. what is it that you expect anyone to be able to derive from the little information you provide? you show screen-shots of windows file properties you do not provide the operating system you use nor the version of darktable, where you got it, how you installed it nor the image for someone to try to import how would *you* solve your problem if someone else presented you with the same information? and this is not an attack on your character, merely the observance of a nearly impossible request. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Partially black thumbnails in lighttable view
* Ludger Bolmerg [12-07-20 14:38]: > Hi, > > I am on DT 3.2.1 on FreeBSD 12.2. > For some of my images I get a partially or even completely black thumbnail > in lighttable view after editing the images. Deactivating the edits I made > does not bring back the thumbnail. Nor does a 'darktable-generate-cache' > from command line restore the thumbnail. > Decreasing the zoom level in lighttable view from 4 to 3 restores the > thumbnail. Increasing it again to 4 or more images per row shows again the > corrupted thumbnail. > > Can anybody point me into the right direction to address the issue? > > Thx, Ludger > [-- Error: unable to create PGP subprocess! --] sounds to me like the cached thumbs are bad, but to correct I would guess you would need to remove the current cache and then generate anew. know that dt will generate cache thumbs for images it needs while darktable-generate-cache will create thumbs for *all* images in your library.db. to test, you might just move the cache and open dt to view subject image(s). on linux it is: /home//.cache/darktable/mipmaps* dt will generate missing thumbs on need. ie: opening a collection -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Petr Bartel [12-06-20 11:23]: > Hi Patrick, > > > > very interesting. What I have tried. > > >* upgrade to R3.3 >* applicated the same steps - unfortunately no improvement >* I have loaded your XMP and it was OK >* I have deleted the XMP completely, including my ~/.config/darktable - >and now it works normally for that file (also downgraded back to 3.2.1) >* For my older XMP it behaves still wrongly - maybe some module >combination > > ------ Původní e-mail -- > Od: Patrick Shanahan > Komu: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Datum: 6. 12. 2020 15:31:56 > Předmět: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction > "* Patrick Shanahan [12-06-20 08:20]: > > * Richard Hobday [12-06-20 04:54]: > > > Patrick, > > > Try the full URL > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view? > usp=sharing > > > > > > Works for me. > > > R. > > > > > > > > > On 06/12/2020 00:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Petr Bartel [12-05-20 10:06]: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the RAW (nef Nikon Z6) https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1 > > > > > > DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please give it a try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... 60 lines removed > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1/ > > > > Sorry, the file you have requested does not exist. > > > > > > > > ??? > > > > uuu > > > > > ok, performed the straightening you attempted and exported the result. > > 1. opened image in perspective module > http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_085959.png > > 2. selected get structure and the left icon for on automatic fit line > http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_090318.png > > 3. unselected get structure and selected automatic cropping "original > format" > http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_090350.png > > 4. entered a different module than "perspective correction" to set the > crop area > http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_090515.png > > 5. exported the image > http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/20200827_RAW_U_Drevare_0233.jpg > > xmp: > http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/20200827_RAW_U_Drevare_0233.nef.xmp > > > hope this helps you. > remember, I am using master version 3.3.0+1993~ga5829cf6c > > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org I would *guess* you have something amiss in your library.db or darktablerc7, re: deleted ~/.config/darktable but your original xmp still causes problems, so your ~/.config/darktable is probably ok and the darktablerc. either your xmp is borked or you have some modules out-of-order that darktable cannot read/apply correctly. I would throw away your original xmp, removed the image from your collection, reimport and re-edit to suit your tastes and forget this. you did indicate that the original xmp was the problem. gud luk, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Patrick Shanahan [12-06-20 08:20]: > * Richard Hobday [12-06-20 04:54]: > > Patrick, > > Try the full URL > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view?usp=sharing > > > > Works for me. > > R. > > > > > > On 06/12/2020 00:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Petr Bartel [12-05-20 10:06]: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the RAW (nef Nikon Z6) https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1 > > > > DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please give it a try. > > > > > > > > > > ... 60 lines removed > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1/ > > > Sorry, the file you have requested does not exist. > > > > > > ??? > > uuu ok, performed the straightening you attempted and exported the result. 1. opened image in perspective module http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_085959.png 2. selected get structure and the left icon for on automatic fit line http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_090318.png 3. unselected get structure and selected automatic cropping "original format" http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_090350.png 4. entered a different module than "perspective correction" to set the crop area http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20201206_090515.png 5. exported the image http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/20200827_RAW_U_Drevare_0233.jpg xmp: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/20200827_RAW_U_Drevare_0233.nef.xmp hope this helps you. remember, I am using master version 3.3.0+1993~ga5829cf6c -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Richard Hobday [12-06-20 04:54]: > Patrick, > Try the full URL > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view?usp=sharing > > Works for me. > R. > > > On 06/12/2020 00:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Petr Bartel [12-05-20 10:06]: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the RAW (nef Nikon Z6) https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1 > > > DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please give it a try. > > > > > > > ... 60 lines removed > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1/ > > Sorry, the file you have requested does not exist. > > > > ??? uuu -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Petr Bartel [12-05-20 10:06]: > Hi, > > > > Here is the RAW (nef Nikon Z6) https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1 > DCpcuYHRQd1G-hAMDdoBTGXFmJ6L/view?usp=sharing > > > > > Yes, please give it a try. > ... 60 lines removed https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EK1/ Sorry, the file you have requested does not exist. ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Auto Preset Module Settings
* David Vincent-Jones [12-04-20 14:03]: > I appear to be finding inconsistencies when creating auto applied module > presets. I have been careful to use the exact model and maker names as is > shown in the image-information, and formatted them as "%model%" and > %maker%". In some instances it appears to work correctly but using exactly > the same procedure/data on another module, right beside it, it simply fails. I have not. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Can't go into "darkroom" mode only for certain files?
* Nick Rahl [12-01-20 11:58]: > I can open and edit Z6 NEF files just fine with this version, but the Z6_2 > files are the ones that won't edit. (I can still import them and see the > previews in lighttable, but I also shoot sidecar jpeg, so maybe the > lighttable previews come from the jpegs.). > > So something might have changed in the formatting from Z6 (working) to Z6_2 > (non-working). Has anyone confirmed that the newest version of DT edits > Z6_2? Do the developers need sample NEF's? And if it's confirmed working on > a newer version, what's the minimum DT version number with Z6_2 support? > > Can I attach a NEF file to the list? > > On 12/1/20 7:38 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Nick Rahl [11-30-20 23:17]: > > > I did a bit of testing, and it may be an issue related to the Nikon Z6 mk > > > ii. All the photos that won't edit were shot on that camera which is very > > > new. Is this a known issue? > > > > > > On 11/30/20 10:56 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Nick Rahl [11-30-20 22:42]: > > > > > I can open and edit images, for the most part, just fine. > > > > > > > > > > But there are certain "film rolls"/folders, where I can open them in > > > > > "lighttable" mode fine, but when I double click to edit it, it goes > > > > > into > > > > > darkroom mode, and the main editing area is gray and says "loading > > > > > image > > > > > DSC_0961.NEF ... " forever. It never loads. > > > > > > > > > > Reboot and closing and reopening doesn't solve the issue. I can go > > > > > into > > > > > lighttable and switch film rolls and edit those fine. But at the > > > > > moment, > > > > > there are two rolls that I can't edit because it is "loading" the > > > > > image > > > > > forever when I try to. > > > > do the files exist in the location dt is "looking"? > > > > have you tried to open the files with other software? possibly they are > > > > corrupt. > > > > > > > > have you tried to open the files from the commandline? > > > > open text window > > > > darktable /// > > > > > > > > have you tried removing the files from dt's database (remove from > > > > collection) and reimporting them? > > > > > > > > lighttable is probably looking at cached files rather than the raw files > > > > would be my first guess as to why they appear in the lighttable view. > > > > > > > > > > > > after posting a problem on a mailing list, discussion should continue on > > that list so other interested parties have access to the possible solution > > and may add more information. > > > > it is very possible that compatibility for the z6 was not added the the > > darktable version you use, you failed to mention that or that you were > > using a z6. afaik, master version supports the z6 and possibly the z6II > > or whatever name they have given it. > > > > please post this and further discussion the the list. I will answer > > there. > > no, don't attach a raw to an email and spam everybody on the list. post to a file sharing service or your web server or ... but in this case I just looked at the supported camera list on darktable.org and only the "Z 6" is listed. so it appears that the "Z6_2" has not yet been added. I believe I saw that someone had uploaded sample images to https://raw.pixls.us/ but not sure. you might check there and if they need samples, follow the directions and provide the needed samples. response in providing updated support has been quite good. good luck -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Can't go into "darkroom" mode only for certain files?
* Nick Rahl [12-01-20 11:50]: > I'm confused, I thought I posted to the list by replying to your previous > message. > > I need to manually cc the list on each reply? > > On 12/1/20 7:38 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Nick Rahl [11-30-20 23:17]: > > > I did a bit of testing, and it may be an issue related to the Nikon Z6 mk > > > ii. All the photos that won't edit were shot on that camera which is very > > > new. Is this a known issue? > > > > > > On 11/30/20 10:56 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Nick Rahl [11-30-20 22:42]: > > > > > I can open and edit images, for the most part, just fine. > > > > > > > > > > But there are certain "film rolls"/folders, where I can open them in > > > > > "lighttable" mode fine, but when I double click to edit it, it goes > > > > > into > > > > > darkroom mode, and the main editing area is gray and says "loading > > > > > image > > > > > DSC_0961.NEF ... " forever. It never loads. > > > > > > > > > > Reboot and closing and reopening doesn't solve the issue. I can go > > > > > into > > > > > lighttable and switch film rolls and edit those fine. But at the > > > > > moment, > > > > > there are two rolls that I can't edit because it is "loading" the > > > > > image > > > > > forever when I try to. > > > > do the files exist in the location dt is "looking"? > > > > have you tried to open the files with other software? possibly they are > > > > corrupt. > > > > > > > > have you tried to open the files from the commandline? > > > > open text window > > > > darktable /// > > > > > > > > have you tried removing the files from dt's database (remove from > > > > collection) and reimporting them? > > > > > > > > lighttable is probably looking at cached files rather than the raw files > > > > would be my first guess as to why they appear in the lighttable view. > > > > > > > > > > > > after posting a problem on a mailing list, discussion should continue on > > that list so other interested parties have access to the possible solution > > and may add more information. > > > > it is very possible that compatibility for the z6 was not added the the > > darktable version you use, you failed to mention that or that you were > > using a z6. afaik, master version supports the z6 and possibly the z6II > > or whatever name they have given it. > > > > please post this and further discussion the the list. I will answer > > there. > > replying to a message replys to the author unless the header "Reply-To:" is not empty, with directs your reply the toe "Reply-To:" address. Appears you are using thunderbird, you need to set it to "reply to list". I cannot tell you how, I am not using or that familiar with thunderbird. another way is to reply to *all*, but then be sure to remove all addresses except the list as you will send duplicate posts to all the addressees. and this post you sent to me and the list and I have absolutely no need for another duplicate email. have you solved your problem? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
* tony Hamilton [12-01-20 11:47]:
> "we cannot see the lines which you refer, please type them here and we will
> try to explain."
>
> I guess that 'lines' means the error messages that were displayed in the
> command prompt window?. I did type them in my post, but I'll repeat them
> here:
>
> First error message:
>
> (darktable:5370): Gtk-WARNING **: 18:31:21.049: Attempting to add a widget
> with type GtkBox to a container of type GtkStack, but the widget is already
> inside a container of type GtkStack, please remove the widget from its
> existing container first.
>
> Subsequent error messages (32 the same as this, 1 per imported image):
>
> sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
>
> On 01/12/2020 01:22, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * tony Hamilton [11-30-20 20:14]:
> > > Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification. In another test I have invoked
> > > darktable from the command line using the application name only with no
> > > options or parameters. I then asked dt to import a newly created folder of
> > > images which I have just copied from a network drive. Import completed
> > > without freezing but on examining the command line window I see a number
> > > of
> > > messages/warnings. The first is:
> > >
> > > "(darktable:5370): Gtk-WARNING **: 18:31:21.049: Attempting to add a
> > > widget
> > > with type GtkBox to a container of type GtkStack, but the widget is
> > > already
> > > inside a container of type GtkStack, please remove the widget from its
> > > existing container first."
> > >
> > > I have no idea what all this means. This message is then followed by
> > > multiple instances of "sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" - one message
> > > for each image that was imported. Again, I have no idea of what tis
> > > message
> > > means.
> > we cannot see the lines which you refer, please type them here and we will
> > try to explain.
> > > Now, about hardware: I use this same model of nVidia card on an old
> > > computer
> > > with an early i5 processor, running Win 10. OpenCL is active and darktable
> > > edits work there just fine - obviously not quick, but not unusable.
> > > Freezing
> > > during import does not occur in this windows installation.
> > >
> > > This linux machine I am running darktable on is an 11 year old computer,
> > > originally with an i5 dual core CPU, which I have updated to a 2009
> > > vintage
> > > Lynnfield i7 860 (the most I can install on this motherboard). Until
> > > recently it was a dual boot machine, with Win 10. Under Windows it ran
> > > high-CPU-demand apps like RawTherapee, Capture One, Photoshop, LightRoom
> > > surprisingly quickly. Running typical home/office apps under Mint 20 is as
> > > fast as anything I have used before and is comparable to my newest windows
> > > machine, with a 9th generation i7, multiple SSDs and 32 GB RAM.
> > >
> > > In short, I don't think I have a serious performance issue.
> > >
> > > I do run with Psensors active all the time (to be sure I am not going to
> > > melt that old i7); none of the cores get anywhere near T.Junc. limit. I
> > > also
> > > have plenty of RAM for linux (16 GB). Running top does not show any
> > > significant problems: total memory demand is running at about 8 to 11 GB;
> > > swap is never used. CPU is running surprisingly low.
> > >
> > > While writing this message I have tried starting the GUI version of
> > > darktable and then importing newly copied folders. During the past 24
> > > hours
> > > I have made the lucky guess (a miracle really) at why OpenCL was not
> > > available ( file /etc/OpenCL/vendors/nvidia.icd defined an nvidia driver
> > > which I was not using - now corrected). One of those import attempts ran
> > > without issue; the other failed with freezing as before. htop did not show
> > > any striking anomalies.
> > >
> > > In short, I still do not understand why darktable GUI is freezing.
> > >
> > perhaps you should provide us the address of the directory you are trying
> > to import, the full path name.
> >
> > and provide a sample image for use to try to import.
> > and do not include it in your email, but place it on a file sharing
> > service or a web server where you have access.
> > > On 30/11/2020 06:08, KOVÁCS István wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 17:35, tony
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
* Terry Pinfold [11-30-20 21:20]: > Patrick, Please be careful how you word some of your replies. Be gentle > with people who have less computer skills than yourself. It reminds me of > when I tried to teach my wife how to do something on a computer and I told > her to right click, when she failed to do this I raised my voice and said > right click, after numerous failed attempts on my part to get her to do a > right click she turned to me and said, 'what the hell is a wrong click!' > > I really appreciate the advice and help you give people here. I can > understand your frustration when someone is trying to work with Linux and > does not understand what a text window is. > > take care > Terry > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 12:33, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Terry Pinfold [11-30-20 20:28]: > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 12:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > * tony Hamilton [11-30-20 20:08]: > > > > > Really confused; what is this? Where is this text window? In > > > > Libre-Office? > > > > > Or another text editor? Which one? I am looking for a text window > > which > > > > > contains this text or do I enter this text? What does 'not > > darktable-cli > > > > do? > > > > > What is the meaning of the text string (It > > seems > > > > to be > > > > > syntactically incorrect: what entity is 'less than 'path' ? is 'path' > > > > both > > > > > greater than and less than 'to' at the same time? In data terms, > > what are > > > > > the values of these variables? Where do I find them ?). if I enter > > this > > > > > text, does it need to be saved in a specific format or a specific > > > > location? > > > > > Will some other application process this text ? If so, which one? How > > > > does > > > > > it relate to darktable ? > > > > > > > > > > On 30/11/2020 01:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > * tony Hamilton [11-29-20 20:15]: > > > > > > > Not sure that I fully understand 'run from the command-line' to > > > > import a > > > > > > > file or a folder, but when I pass the address of a previously > > unseen > > > > folder > > > > > > > to darktable using CLI it opens that folder with no problem, > > giving > > > > me > > > > > > > darkroom access to all the included images. I don't see any > > errors, > > > > but it > > > > > > > should be noted that I wouldn't know where to look for them if > > there > > > > were > > > > > > > any. I cannot tell if I am using OpenCL or not. A comprehensive > > > > search on > > > > > > > the internet returns NO 'hits' which discuss OpenCL on Linux Mint > > > > 20, so I > > > > > > > have no information on how to tell if OpenCL is installed, or > > being > > > > used. I > > > > > > > am using Linux Mint 20 driving an nVidia GTX 645 OEM card, using > > > > driver > > > > > > > nvidia-driver-455 version 455.38-0ubuntu0-20.04.1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 29/11/2020 14:46, KOVÁCS István wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 10:27, tony Hamilton< > > > > shaky.st...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > For the past few weeks I have noticed that dt .3.2.1 freezes > > > > towards the > > > > > > > > > end of the import process > > > > > > > > When run from the command-line, do you see any errors? > > > > > > > > Do you use OpenCL? If yes, which card and driver? > > > > > > > > What operating system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kofa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail > > > > todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > in a text window: > > > > > > not darktable-cli > > > > > > darktable -d opencl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so you really need to know a little about you
Re: [darktable-user] Can't go into "darkroom" mode only for certain files?
* Nick Rahl [11-30-20 22:42]: > I can open and edit images, for the most part, just fine. > > But there are certain "film rolls"/folders, where I can open them in > "lighttable" mode fine, but when I double click to edit it, it goes into > darkroom mode, and the main editing area is gray and says "loading image > DSC_0961.NEF ... " forever. It never loads. > > Reboot and closing and reopening doesn't solve the issue. I can go into > lighttable and switch film rolls and edit those fine. But at the moment, > there are two rolls that I can't edit because it is "loading" the image > forever when I try to. do the files exist in the location dt is "looking"? have you tried to open the files with other software? possibly they are corrupt. have you tried to open the files from the commandline? open text window darktable /// have you tried removing the files from dt's database (remove from collection) and reimporting them? lighttable is probably looking at cached files rather than the raw files would be my first guess as to why they appear in the lighttable view. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
* Terry Pinfold [11-30-20 20:28]: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 12:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * tony Hamilton [11-30-20 20:08]: > > > Really confused; what is this? Where is this text window? In > > Libre-Office? > > > Or another text editor? Which one? I am looking for a text window which > > > contains this text or do I enter this text? What does 'not darktable-cli > > do? > > > What is the meaning of the text string (It seems > > to be > > > syntactically incorrect: what entity is 'less than 'path' ? is 'path' > > both > > > greater than and less than 'to' at the same time? In data terms, what are > > > the values of these variables? Where do I find them ?). if I enter this > > > text, does it need to be saved in a specific format or a specific > > location? > > > Will some other application process this text ? If so, which one? How > > does > > > it relate to darktable ? > > > > > > On 30/11/2020 01:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * tony Hamilton [11-29-20 20:15]: > > > > > Not sure that I fully understand 'run from the command-line' to > > import a > > > > > file or a folder, but when I pass the address of a previously unseen > > folder > > > > > to darktable using CLI it opens that folder with no problem, giving > > me > > > > > darkroom access to all the included images. I don't see any errors, > > but it > > > > > should be noted that I wouldn't know where to look for them if there > > were > > > > > any. I cannot tell if I am using OpenCL or not. A comprehensive > > search on > > > > > the internet returns NO 'hits' which discuss OpenCL on Linux Mint > > 20, so I > > > > > have no information on how to tell if OpenCL is installed, or being > > used. I > > > > > am using Linux Mint 20 driving an nVidia GTX 645 OEM card, using > > driver > > > > > nvidia-driver-455 version 455.38-0ubuntu0-20.04.1. > > > > > > > > > > On 29/11/2020 14:46, KOVÁCS István wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 10:27, tony Hamilton< > > shaky.st...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > > > > For the past few weeks I have noticed that dt .3.2.1 freezes > > towards the > > > > > > > end of the import process > > > > > > When run from the command-line, do you see any errors? > > > > > > Do you use OpenCL? If yes, which card and driver? > > > > > > What operating system? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kofa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail > > todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > in a text window: > > > > not darktable-cli > > > > darktable -d opencl > > > > > > > > > > so you really need to know a little about your operating system. do you > > expect to operate your camera with that little knowledge of it? how would > > you turn it on. > > > > a text window is exactly that since you must be using a desktop graphical > > environment or would not be able to run darktable. > > > > darktable-cli is a program but is not the same as darktable > > "-d opencl" are parameters which you want the program, darktable, to use > > when it is operating. > > "<" is a less-than symbol, but it is also used to indicate a substitute > > word where one would be expected to place a different work, ie: > > /home//xxx > > > > and these are as basic to your operating system as setting the aperture on > > your camera, or using a key to start the engine on your automobile. > > > > we will undoubtedly be unable to assist you until you are able to > > communicate with us in terms we both understand. if you ask specific > > questions which can be answered in some other manner, please try. > > > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > &g
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
> > > Once darktable hangs, if you open another terminal and launch 'top' or > > 'htop' (you may have to install them first), do you see high CPU usage > > by darktable or is it idle? Do you see any signs indicating running > > out of memory? (There probably is a similar tool with a more > > user-friendly interface to monitor resources, but I'm not familiar > > with it.) > > > > Kofa > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
* tony Hamilton [11-30-20 20:08]: > Really confused; what is this? Where is this text window? In Libre-Office? > Or another text editor? Which one? I am looking for a text window which > contains this text or do I enter this text? What does 'not darktable-cli do? > What is the meaning of the text string (It seems to be > syntactically incorrect: what entity is 'less than 'path' ? is 'path' both > greater than and less than 'to' at the same time? In data terms, what are > the values of these variables? Where do I find them ?). if I enter this > text, does it need to be saved in a specific format or a specific location? > Will some other application process this text ? If so, which one? How does > it relate to darktable ? > > On 30/11/2020 01:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * tony Hamilton [11-29-20 20:15]: > > > Not sure that I fully understand 'run from the command-line' to import a > > > file or a folder, but when I pass the address of a previously unseen > > > folder > > > to darktable using CLI it opens that folder with no problem, giving me > > > darkroom access to all the included images. I don't see any errors, but it > > > should be noted that I wouldn't know where to look for them if there were > > > any. I cannot tell if I am using OpenCL or not. A comprehensive search on > > > the internet returns NO 'hits' which discuss OpenCL on Linux Mint 20, so I > > > have no information on how to tell if OpenCL is installed, or being used. > > > I > > > am using Linux Mint 20 driving an nVidia GTX 645 OEM card, using driver > > > nvidia-driver-455 version 455.38-0ubuntu0-20.04.1. > > > > > > On 29/11/2020 14:46, KOVÁCS István wrote: > > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 10:27, tony Hamilton > > > > wrote: > > > > > For the past few weeks I have noticed that dt .3.2.1 freezes towards > > > > > the > > > > > end of the import process > > > > When run from the command-line, do you see any errors? > > > > Do you use OpenCL? If yes, which card and driver? > > > > What operating system? > > > > > > > > Kofa > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail > > > > todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > in a text window: > > not darktable-cli > > darktable -d opencl > > so you really need to know a little about your operating system. do you expect to operate your camera with that little knowledge of it? how would you turn it on. a text window is exactly that since you must be using a desktop graphical environment or would not be able to run darktable. darktable-cli is a program but is not the same as darktable "-d opencl" are parameters which you want the program, darktable, to use when it is operating. "<" is a less-than symbol, but it is also used to indicate a substitute word where one would be expected to place a different work, ie: /home//xxx and these are as basic to your operating system as setting the aperture on your camera, or using a key to start the engine on your automobile. we will undoubtedly be unable to assist you until you are able to communicate with us in terms we both understand. if you ask specific questions which can be answered in some other manner, please try. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
* tony Hamilton [11-29-20 20:15]: > Not sure that I fully understand 'run from the command-line' to import a > file or a folder, but when I pass the address of a previously unseen folder > to darktable using CLI it opens that folder with no problem, giving me > darkroom access to all the included images. I don't see any errors, but it > should be noted that I wouldn't know where to look for them if there were > any. I cannot tell if I am using OpenCL or not. A comprehensive search on > the internet returns NO 'hits' which discuss OpenCL on Linux Mint 20, so I > have no information on how to tell if OpenCL is installed, or being used. I > am using Linux Mint 20 driving an nVidia GTX 645 OEM card, using driver > nvidia-driver-455 version 455.38-0ubuntu0-20.04.1. > > On 29/11/2020 14:46, KOVÁCS István wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 10:27, tony Hamilton > > wrote: > > > For the past few weeks I have noticed that dt .3.2.1 freezes towards the > > > end of the import process > > When run from the command-line, do you see any errors? > > Do you use OpenCL? If yes, which card and driver? > > What operating system? > > > > Kofa > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org in a text window: not darktable-cli darktable -d opencl -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Patrick Shanahan [11-25-20 20:51]: > * Petr Bartel [11-25-20 18:51]: > > Hi Patrick, > > > > > > > > OK. > > > > > > > > > > > >1. open Perspective correction module > >2. ctrl+shift click on get structure (III) > >3. click on automatic fit for both directions > >4. click on autocrop original format > >5. everything seems OK and leveled > >6. close the Perspective correction module by clicking on its title or > >another module > >7. some changes are applied but the image is slightly rotated and not > >exactly the same as in the step 5 - what has been seen in the original > >format frame selected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Původní e-mail -- > > Od: Patrick Shanahan > > Komu: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > > Datum: 25. 11. 2020 23:28:35 > > Předmět: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction > > "* Petr Bartel [11-25-20 16:08]: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask you about a behavior which I have noticed within > > module > > > Perspective correction. It seems I am not able to apply the changes. I use > > > > > the module, the picture is modified to my needs but when I close the > > module, > > > the changes are reverted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you need any further information please let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $ darktable --version > > > > > > this is darktable 3.2.1 > > > > > > copyright (c) 2009-2020 johannes hanika > > > > > > darktable-...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compile options: > > > > > > bit depth is 64 bit > > > > > > normal build > > > > > > SSE2 optimized codepath enabled > > > > > > OpenMP support enabled > > > > > > OpenCL support enabled > > > > > > Lua support enabled, API version 6.0.0 > > > > > > Colord support enabled > > > > > > gPhoto2 support enabled > > > > > > GraphicsMagick support enabled > > > > > > ImageMagick support disabled > > > > > > OpenEXR support enabled > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Debian linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's of course possible I am using it wrongly. If it is or it is not a > > bug, > > > could you please advise regarding this if you ever face it. > > > > Then you would need to explain and define your actions as I have never > > noticed that but am *usually* on the latest master compiled on openSUSE > > Tumbleweed rather than lesser versions. > > > > * * * * > > you display the "corrective" line guides via the lower icon row and the > > desired correction via the upper icon row, define the cron and commit the > > action by going to another module or selecting the module header bar. > > * * * * > > > > if necessary I can perform the action and provide before/after images > > showing the difference. > > > > ps: if you pose a problem and comment that you are not sure that you are > > using it properly, why would you not explain your method instead of > > requiring someone offering help to request that? > > > > your questions are more likely to be answered to your satisfaction if you > > provide the avenue of least effort to those where you request assistance. > > > > > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > " > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > Petr, I read the list, read your post on the list, responded on the list > and read your reply ON THE LIST. I have absolutely no need of duplicate > emails and cannot understand why you would think so. please reflect on > that. and I didn't intend to post this to the list. sorry. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Petr Bartel [11-25-20 18:51]: > Hi Patrick, > > > > OK. > > > > > >1. open Perspective correction module >2. ctrl+shift click on get structure (III) >3. click on automatic fit for both directions >4. click on autocrop original format >5. everything seems OK and leveled >6. close the Perspective correction module by clicking on its title or >another module >7. some changes are applied but the image is slightly rotated and not >exactly the same as in the step 5 - what has been seen in the original >format frame selected. > > > > > > > -- Původní e-mail -- > Od: Patrick Shanahan > Komu: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Datum: 25. 11. 2020 23:28:35 > Předmět: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction > "* Petr Bartel [11-25-20 16:08]: > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I would like to ask you about a behavior which I have noticed within > module > > Perspective correction. It seems I am not able to apply the changes. I use > > > the module, the picture is modified to my needs but when I close the > module, > > the changes are reverted. > > > > > > > > > > If you need any further information please let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > > $ darktable --version > > > > this is darktable 3.2.1 > > > > copyright (c) 2009-2020 johannes hanika > > > > darktable-...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > compile options: > > > > bit depth is 64 bit > > > > normal build > > > > SSE2 optimized codepath enabled > > > > OpenMP support enabled > > > > OpenCL support enabled > > > > Lua support enabled, API version 6.0.0 > > > > Colord support enabled > > > > gPhoto2 support enabled > > > > GraphicsMagick support enabled > > > > ImageMagick support disabled > > > > OpenEXR support enabled > > > > > > > > > > > > On Debian linux > > > > > > > > > > It's of course possible I am using it wrongly. If it is or it is not a > bug, > > could you please advise regarding this if you ever face it. > > Then you would need to explain and define your actions as I have never > noticed that but am *usually* on the latest master compiled on openSUSE > Tumbleweed rather than lesser versions. > > * * * * > you display the "corrective" line guides via the lower icon row and the > desired correction via the upper icon row, define the cron and commit the > action by going to another module or selecting the module header bar. > * * * * > > if necessary I can perform the action and provide before/after images > showing the difference. > > ps: if you pose a problem and comment that you are not sure that you are > using it properly, why would you not explain your method instead of > requiring someone offering help to request that? > > your questions are more likely to be answered to your satisfaction if you > provide the avenue of least effort to those where you request assistance. > > > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > ________ > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > " > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > Petr, I read the list, read your post on the list, responded on the list and read your reply ON THE LIST. I have absolutely no need of duplicate emails and cannot understand why you would think so. please reflect on that. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Petr Bartel [11-25-20 18:48]: > Hi Patrick, > > > > OK. > > > > > >1. open Perspective correction module >2. ctrl+shift click on get structure (III) >3. click on automatic fit for both directions >4. click on autocrop original format >5. everything seems OK and leveled >6. close the Perspective correction module by clicking on its title or >another module >7. some changes are applied but the image is slightly rotated and not >exactly the same as in the step 5 - what has been seen in the original >format frame selected. > > > > > > > -- Původní e-mail -- > Od: Patrick Shanahan > Komu: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Datum: 25. 11. 2020 23:28:35 > Předmět: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction > "* Petr Bartel [11-25-20 16:08]: > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I would like to ask you about a behavior which I have noticed within > module > > Perspective correction. It seems I am not able to apply the changes. I use > > > the module, the picture is modified to my needs but when I close the > module, > > the changes are reverted. > > > > > > > > > > If you need any further information please let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > > $ darktable --version > > > > this is darktable 3.2.1 > > > > copyright (c) 2009-2020 johannes hanika > > > > darktable-...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > compile options: > > > > bit depth is 64 bit > > > > normal build > > > > SSE2 optimized codepath enabled > > > > OpenMP support enabled > > > > OpenCL support enabled > > > > Lua support enabled, API version 6.0.0 > > > > Colord support enabled > > > > gPhoto2 support enabled > > > > GraphicsMagick support enabled > > > > ImageMagick support disabled > > > > OpenEXR support enabled > > > > > > > > > > > > On Debian linux > > > > > > > > > > It's of course possible I am using it wrongly. If it is or it is not a > bug, > > could you please advise regarding this if you ever face it. > > Then you would need to explain and define your actions as I have never > noticed that but am *usually* on the latest master compiled on openSUSE > Tumbleweed rather than lesser versions. > > * * * * > you display the "corrective" line guides via the lower icon row and the > desired correction via the upper icon row, define the cron and commit the > action by going to another module or selecting the module header bar. > * * * * > > if necessary I can perform the action and provide before/after images > showing the difference. > > ps: if you pose a problem and comment that you are not sure that you are > using it properly, why would you not explain your method instead of > requiring someone offering help to request that? > > your questions are more likely to be answered to your satisfaction if you > provide the avenue of least effort to those where you request assistance. > > > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > ________ > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > " perhaps you can take a screen-shot of the display after you direct to "autocrop original format". and then perform your step #6 and export the image. compare the screen-shot to the export and if not *very* similar, provide them for use to view. if they are not *very* similar, a bug issue is warranted. https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/new?assignees===bug_report.md= -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Terry Pinfold [11-25-20 19:02]: > I just click on the name bar of the module or select another module and the > effect is applied. I do not have an OK in the middle of my screen with a > windows computer. > > Dr Terry Pinfold > Cytometry & Histology Lab Manager > Lecturer in Flow Cytometry > University of Tasmania > 17 Liverpool St, Hobart, 7000 > Ph 6226 4846 or 0408 699053 > > From: Petr Bartel > Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:43 AM > To: René Seindal > Cc: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction > > Hi Rene, > > I don't see any OK in the picture. > > -- Původní e-mail -- > Od: René Seindal > Komu: Petr Bartel > Datum: 25. 11. 2020 22:11:48 > Předmět: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction > It is not very obvious but there is a small OK button at the centre of the > photo you need to click to apply the correction. > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020, 22:06 Petr Bartel, > mailto:petr.bar...@seznam.cz>> wrote: > Hi All, > > I would like to ask you about a behavior which I have noticed within module > Perspective correction. It seems I am not able to apply the changes. I use > the module, the picture is modified to my needs but when I close the module, > the changes are reverted. > > If you need any further information please let me know. > > $ darktable --version > this is darktable 3.2.1 > copyright (c) 2009-2020 johannes hanika > darktable-...@lists.darktable.org<mailto:darktable-...@lists.darktable.org> > > compile options: > bit depth is 64 bit > normal build > SSE2 optimized codepath enabled > OpenMP support enabled > OpenCL support enabled > Lua support enabled, API version 6.0.0 > Colord support enabled > gPhoto2 support enabled > GraphicsMagick support enabled > ImageMagick support disabled > OpenEXR support enabled > > On Debian linux > > It's of course possible I am using it wrongly. If it is or it is not a bug, > could you please advise regarding this if you ever face it. > > Thank you > > Petr Bartel > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org<mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > University of Tasmania Electronic Communications Policy (December, 2014). > This email is confidential, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, > disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone outside > the intended recipient organisation is prohibited and may be a criminal > offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the > sender. The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of > the University of Tasmania, unless clearly intended otherwise. > > ________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > I do not have an "ok" either, perhap referring to the keystone part of the crop module. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2.1 - Perspective correction
* Petr Bartel [11-25-20 16:08]: > Hi All, > > > > I would like to ask you about a behavior which I have noticed within module > Perspective correction. It seems I am not able to apply the changes. I use > the module, the picture is modified to my needs but when I close the module, > the changes are reverted. > > > > > If you need any further information please let me know. > > > > > > $ darktable --version > > this is darktable 3.2.1 > > copyright (c) 2009-2020 johannes hanika > > darktable-...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > compile options: > > bit depth is 64 bit > > normal build > > SSE2 optimized codepath enabled > > OpenMP support enabled > > OpenCL support enabled > > Lua support enabled, API version 6.0.0 > > Colord support enabled > > gPhoto2 support enabled > > GraphicsMagick support enabled > > ImageMagick support disabled > > OpenEXR support enabled > > > > > > On Debian linux > > > > > It's of course possible I am using it wrongly. If it is or it is not a bug, > could you please advise regarding this if you ever face it. Then you would need to explain and define your actions as I have never noticed that but am *usually* on the latest master compiled on openSUSE Tumbleweed rather than lesser versions. * * * * you display the "corrective" line guides via the lower icon row and the desired correction via the upper icon row, define the cron and commit the action by going to another module or selecting the module header bar. * * * * if necessary I can perform the action and provide before/after images showing the difference. ps: if you pose a problem and comment that you are not sure that you are using it properly, why would you not explain your method instead of requiring someone offering help to request that? your questions are more likely to be answered to your satisfaction if you provide the avenue of least effort to those where you request assistance. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question
* Michael [11-24-20 19:14]: > find it easier to: > > sudo updatedb > locate > > well that might be because I never learned the find command but still > it works for me. > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:53 PM Anton Aylward wrote: > > > > On 24/11/2020 12:09, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Sakke K [11-24-20 12:01]: > > >> locate is a faster command than find. > > >> For example, locate _A250256.ORF.xmp > > > > > > yes, find actively scans your file structure while locate just look into > > > its database. but the database must be up-to-date or your locate will > > > fail. > > > > RTFM > > Just to clarify from TFM: > > == > > locate(1) General Commands Manual > > > > NAME > > locate - find files by name > > > > SYNOPSIS > > locate [OPTION]... PATTERN... > > > > DESCRIPTION > > locate reads one or more databases prepared by updatedb(8) and > > writes file names matching at least one of the PATTERNs to standard > > output, one per line. > > > > ... > > > > By default, locate does not check whether files found in database > > still exist (but it does require all parent directories to exist if > > the database was built with --require-visibility no). locate can > > never report files created after the most recent update of the > > relevant > > database. > > === > > > > So if you've uploaded (or relocated after uploading to a scratch directory) > > since the last update to the relevant databases, 'locate' is not going to be > > useful. 'find', by comparison deals with what is actually in the file > > system > > right now. > > > > The man page on 'updatedb' says it is refreshed daily by 'cron', but on some > > systems it is done by a systemd timer unit. > > > > Either way, it may not, on you system, be enabled by default. It isn't on > > mine. > > So I prefer to use 'find'. Which is more flexible about such matters time > > and > > size and the ability run subcommands such as 'exifgrep' on any potential > > match. > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org except that updating the locate db more than likely takes quite a bit longer than a more localized find command. but locate will be easier for you if that is what you understand and do not understand find. that said, find is very handy once you learn it as it has many applications. I automagically remove files in a particular directory based on their file-date: find -mtime +22 -type f -delete Just one example. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question
* Sakke K [11-24-20 12:01]: > locate is a faster command than find. > For example, locate _A250256.ORF.xmp > > pe 20. marrask. 2020 klo 0.46 Bruce Williams (stu...@audio2u.com) kirjoitti: > > > Thanks for the kind words, Martin! > > > > Cheers, > > Bruce Williams. > > > > -- Forwarded message - > > From: Martin Šoltis > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020, 09:28 > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question > > To: Bruce Williams > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > I am very glad I was able to help you. > > > > Your videos are so inspiring and I admire your work. > > > > Wish you the best. > > > > Martin > > > > > > On štvrtok 19. novembra 2020 20:19:35 CET you wrote: > > > Well, that's just a bit too bloody simple, isn't it? > > > Thanks for that! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Bruce Williams. > > > > > > -- Forwarded message - > > > From: Martin Šoltis > > > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 23:17 > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Linux question > > > To: > > > > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > just open DT, select all images and click on "write sidecar files" in the > > > History stack module. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > On štvrtok 19. novembra 2020 13:04:18 CET Bruce Williams wrote: > > > > Thanks Matt. > > > > So, is there a way to now force the creation of sidecar files? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bruce Williams. > > > > > > > > -- Forwarded message - > > > > From: Matt Maguire > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 22:58 > > > > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Linux question > > > > To: Bruce Williams > > > > Cc: darktable-user > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce, I assume the edits are stored purely in the darktable sqlite > > db, in > > > > your .config folder, and the XMP don't exist anywhere on the system > > due to > > > > the permissions problem you mentioned. > > > > > > > > /Matt > > > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 22:54, Bruce Williams > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > I have a folder which I didn't realise had been created by another > > user > > > > > account on my linux box (ie: not @bruce) > > > > > I've just noticed that the RAW files in this folder do NOT have xmp > > > > > sidecar files sitting alongside them, and I assume that the reason > > for > > > > > that > > > > > is that I imported them under my user account, and my user account > > > > > > didn't > > > > > > > > have write privileges on the folder. > > > > > But those RAW files do have keywords and development settings, which > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > that the xmp files have been written to some other location (because > > > > > > linux > > > > > > > > is clever like that!). > > > > > Anyone know where those xmp files will be? > > > > > I've changed the owner of the folder now, and would like to move the > > xmp > > > > > files to the folder so they sit with the RAW files. > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Bruce Williams > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > brucewilliamsphotography.com > > > > > shuttersincpodcast.com > > > > > > > > > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> > > | > > > > > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | > > > > > > Facebook > > > > > > > > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > > > > > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > > > > > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > > > __ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > __
Re: [darktable-user] optimization of opencl performance for NVIDIA GTX .... : settings in file darktablerc
em. > > > > I would like to upgrade one of the two systems to a 4K display, so was > > already decided to purchase a new video card. > > > > Is there a tested solution that works out of the box, or a list of DT > > OpenCL compliant cards for Linux? > > > > > > > > On 15/11/20 15:34, Šarūnas wrote: > > > On 11/14/20 3:41 PM, GianLuca Sarto wrote: > > >> Hello All, > > >> > > >> DT 3.2.1 here, running on Ubuntu 20.04, Radeon HD5400. > > >> > > >> OpenCL should be working, however DT complains "could not get platforms" > > >> (see below). > > > Support for Radeon HD5xxx may have ended with fglrx (Ubuntu 16.04?). > > > > > > You may check what is currently supported, > > > by proprietary AMDGPU-PRO: > > > https://www.amd.com/en/support > > > > > > by open source ROCm: > > > https://github.com/RadeonOpenCompute/ROCm#Hardware-and-Software-Support > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > <mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > <mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > <mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > your parameters may be off for opencl_synch_cache, I have: opencl_synch_cache=active module -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Linux question
* Bruce Williams [11-19-20 06:57]: > Hi all, > I have a folder which I didn't realise had been created by another user > account on my linux box (ie: not @bruce) > I've just noticed that the RAW files in this folder do NOT have xmp sidecar > files sitting alongside them, and I assume that the reason for that is that > I imported them under my user account, and my user account didn't have > write privileges on the folder. > But those RAW files do have keywords and development settings, which means > that the xmp files have been written to some other location (because linux > is clever like that!). > Anyone know where those xmp files will be? > I've changed the owner of the folder now, and would like to move the xmp > files to the folder so they sit with the RAW files. since you now have write permissions to the file location, just select the group of files in lighttable, open "history stack" and select "write sidecar files". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable + OpenCL
* KOVÁCS István [11-08-20 10:03]: > On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 07:48, Remco Viëtor wrote: > > > KOVÁCS István wrote: > > > > It has been reported that a new driver, compatible with kernel 5.9, is > > > > available. > > > > https://discuss.pixls.us/t/linux-and-darktable/21113/6 > > > > > > This is wrong [...] your only option is to revert to kernel 5.8. > > > > But, according to the linked thread on pixlus, the newest NVidia driver is > > version *455.38* ... > > I'm on 5.8, so cannot test. According to the pixls.us link, it worked > for someone; others say the driver is not yet ready for kernel 5.9: > https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/455-38-and-kernel-5-9-6/159039 while I have a G04, I am on 5.9.1 using darktable 3.3.0+1419~gbb08f1e56 and nvidia 390.138 G04 packages VIDIA GF106 [GeForce GTS 450] vendor: PNY driver: nvidia v: 390.138 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0dc4 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv resolution: 1: 1920x1080~60Hz 2: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 81 OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTS 450/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.138 direct render: Yes -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Getting machine JPG colours in RAW editing
* Germano Massullo [11-04-20 17:37]: > Good day, I have shoot the following photo in JPEG+RAW and I would need > your help in reproducing the colours of the camera JPEG in dartkable RAW > editing. > > This is a Nikon Z6 JPEG > https://germano.fedorapeople.org/canc/pantheon/original_z6_JPG.JPG > > here instead the result of my elaboration of the RAW file > https://germano.fedorapeople.org/canc/pantheon/darktable_edited_raw.jpg > > This is the XMP file > https://germano.fedorapeople.org/canc/pantheon/DSC_1075_05.NEF.xmp > > I cannot manage to achieve the same colours, playing with the colour > balance did not help because it turned too much "reddish" the whole > picture. Any idea? you might try here: https://discuss.pixls.us/search?q=playraw but you must remember that the jpg was produced by nikon processes which are unknown software wise to developers. and you neglected to provide the raw image for anyone to try ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] EXIF data with DNG files
* Bernhard [10-30-20 19:48]: > > > Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 30.10.20 um 22:19: > > what is it that no one can accept that DNG is*only* a pseudo standard, > > ie: is not the same in every invocation. > it's simply the fact that there are cameras out there who's manufacturer > decided to use that extension for their in-camera generated raw files. > Pentax (option), Leica e. g. and obviously those spy devices some people > call 'smartphone' ... > > And as those files are in-camera raw files it is expected that they behave > like .nef, .raf, .cr2, ... which is clearly lack of a standard/definition and something to avoid-if-at-all-possible. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] EXIF data with DNG files
* David Vincent-Jones [10-30-20 15:22]: > When I export the DNG from dt to a JPG file the EXIF data is included ... > but the important information such as speed/aperture/etc is not displayed in > dt 'image information'. I think somehow dt simply has missed out on > displaying this data. > > David > > On 2020-10-30 10:37 a.m., Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > > Have you tried checking available information with exiftool or any > > other similar tool? Is it really available in DNG? > > > > Timur. > > > > On Fri, 2020-10-30 at 10:00 -0700, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > > My most recent toy is a Huawei phone that exports both JPG as well as > > > DNG files from a RAW shot. The JPG files opened in dt show the full > > > EXIF data set but the DNG files omit all of the critical data. > > > When I export the files (to a JPG) the data is correctly shown on the > > > export file. > > > Is this a known problem? > > > David. > > > > > > _ > > > ___ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org what is it that no one can accept that DNG is *only* a pseudo standard, ie: is not the same in every invocation. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Notice for NVIDIA users about kernel 5.9 (esp. for Arch/gentoo/etc. users)
* Ariel Kanterewicz [10-30-20 09:27]: > Hi, all > > I got bit by the GPL taint thing, so I'm here to warn others. > The TLDR is that NVIDIA's drivers don't work well with the latest kernel > (5.9) and OpenCL just plain disappears, so avoid it until they have it > sorted out. > > Here's a writeup on the issue from phoronix for anyone interested in the > details: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=NVIDIA-Linux-5.9-Delayed I am on openSUSE Tumbleweed and kernel 5.9.1-1-default nvidia-glG04-390.138-42.1.x86_64 nvidia-computeG04-390.138-42.1.x86_64 x11-video-nvidiaG04-390.138-42.1.x86_64 nvidia-gfxG04-kmp-default-390.138_k5.9.1_8-42.6.x86_64 kernel-firmware-nvidia-20201005-3.1.noarch and OpenCL is not available in darktable still editing w/o a problem. darktable master 3.3.0+1263~g2bffb2eed -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] More Module Questions
* David Vincent-Jones [10-27-20 11:24]: > The manage-presets is not reachable due to the extended entries!! > > > On 2020-10-27 12:32 a.m., Matt Maguire wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 15:52, David Vincent-Jones > > wrote: > > > > > It appears that I have created 1 more module column than there is space > > > provided. Even with the max side column width the column setting menu is > > > unreachable. Is there an easy fix? I need to delete a column. > > > > > click on the "X" next to the module group name in the "manage presets" > > window. hold the key depressed and depress left mouse button and drag window side-ways -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Missing Preferences icon.
* Terry Duell [10-26-20 18:19]: > Hello Coding Dave, > > On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 07:07 +0100, Coding Dave wrote: > > Please clean rebuild. Should've been fixed with > > 9112d230e3dd45ae419e0e18c23ea575ce2cd4bd > > last week. If not please create a case and provide a screenshot. > > Just built the current master, release-3.3.0-1223-ge23f54019, and still not > seeing the preferences icon. > I build in an rpmbuild environment which is created for each build, so 'clean' > should not an issue. > I've attached a link to screenshots of lighttable and darkroom views. > Not sure what you mean by 'create a case'. clean for rpmbuild would probably entail replacing *all* dt source files and the build environment. https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/ create a bug report, "issue". fwiw: I build using the github clone and do see the hamburger/gear-wheel config icon. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout
* David Vincent-Jones [10-26-20 12:17]: > Patrick maybe you can explain how to 'add' modules to a new group > because this is the essence of the problem that I am having. When I create a > new layout I can remove modules but fail to find how to add modules to a > specific column. > > On 2020-10-25 9:16 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-25-20 23:16]: > > > There is no apparent method to move modules from one column to another. > > > Yes, > > > I can rename a column as 'Favs', but the modules in the column are very > > > limited. What I am not finding is "assign whatever favourite modules you > > > want to your new custom favourites group." > > > > > > I must be missing something! > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > On 2020-10-25 7:24 p.m., Matt Maguire wrote: > > > > It's because the favorites tab is made redundant having the ability to > > > > fully customise your groups. if for some reason you want a favorites > > > > tab, > > > > then no worries, just create a module group called "favourites" (you can > > > > even use a "star" icon for it, like we used to have), and assign > > > > whatever > > > > favourite modules you want to your new custom favourites group. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 13:18, Bruce Williams wrote: > > > > > > > > > I haven't tried any builds post the stable version of 3.2.1, but > > > > > wanted > > > > > ask, why is the favorites tab being removed? Or is this just a > > > > > temporary > > > > > situation during the development cycle? > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Bruce Williams. > > > > > > > > > > -- Forwarded message - > > > > > From: Patrick Shanahan > > > > > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020, 12:38 > > > > > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout > > > > > To: darktable forum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-25-20 21:06]: > > > > > > I am still finding problems in establishing a 'custom' module > > > > > > layout now > > > > > > that the Favorites column is removed. The following describes my > > > > > > approach > > > > > > and some apparent problems that have resulted. > > > > > > > > > > > > a. I started with a 'scene referred' module set and then deleted all > > > > > modules > > > > > > that I would not generally use. That module grouping was then saved. > > > > > > > > > > > > b. Then I opened an image and turned on the most common modules and > > > > > > saved > > > > > > each 'on' module as a named preset. > > > > > > > > > > > > c. Then I was able to see my module selection correctly shown in the > > > > > 'active > > > > > > module' column. > > > > > > > > > > > > d. Next I saved all of the active modules (with check marks) in a > > > > > > new > > > > > style. > > > > > > My hope was that this style would place only my common modules (in > > > > > > the > > > > > > correct order) in the active column for other images. To my surprise > > > > > modules > > > > > > from other groups not only appeared but were turned on. For instance > > > > > > filmic-rgb and base-curve were both showing as being active!! > > > > > > > > > > > > I do understand that this is under development but I wonder if > > > > > > others are > > > > > > having similar problems and have found a way around the > > > > > > difficulties. > > > > > create a module/collection named "Fav" or your choice > > > > > populate it with your favorite modules. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > > > > @ptilopteri > > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > > > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > >
Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout
* David Vincent-Jones [10-25-20 23:16]: > There is no apparent method to move modules from one column to another. Yes, > I can rename a column as 'Favs', but the modules in the column are very > limited. What I am not finding is "assign whatever favourite modules you > want to your new custom favourites group." > > I must be missing something! > > David > > > On 2020-10-25 7:24 p.m., Matt Maguire wrote: > > It's because the favorites tab is made redundant having the ability to > > fully customise your groups. if for some reason you want a favorites tab, > > then no worries, just create a module group called "favourites" (you can > > even use a "star" icon for it, like we used to have), and assign whatever > > favourite modules you want to your new custom favourites group. > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 13:18, Bruce Williams wrote: > > > > > I haven't tried any builds post the stable version of 3.2.1, but wanted > > > ask, why is the favorites tab being removed? Or is this just a temporary > > > situation during the development cycle? > > > Cheers, > > > Bruce Williams. > > > > > > -- Forwarded message - > > > From: Patrick Shanahan > > > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020, 12:38 > > > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout > > > To: darktable forum > > > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-25-20 21:06]: > > > > I am still finding problems in establishing a 'custom' module layout now > > > > that the Favorites column is removed. The following describes my > > > > approach > > > > and some apparent problems that have resulted. > > > > > > > > a. I started with a 'scene referred' module set and then deleted all > > > modules > > > > that I would not generally use. That module grouping was then saved. > > > > > > > > b. Then I opened an image and turned on the most common modules and > > > > saved > > > > each 'on' module as a named preset. > > > > > > > > c. Then I was able to see my module selection correctly shown in the > > > 'active > > > > module' column. > > > > > > > > d. Next I saved all of the active modules (with check marks) in a new > > > style. > > > > My hope was that this style would place only my common modules (in the > > > > correct order) in the active column for other images. To my surprise > > > modules > > > > from other groups not only appeared but were turned on. For instance > > > > filmic-rgb and base-curve were both showing as being active!! > > > > > > > > I do understand that this is under development but I wonder if others > > > > are > > > > having similar problems and have found a way around the difficulties. > > > create a module/collection named "Fav" or your choice > > > populate it with your favorite modules. > > > > > > -- > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org do not "rename" a module group, create a new one. And populate it with what you desire by adding modules to it, rather than trying to "move" modules from one group to another. You are making something simple, difficult. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout
* David Vincent-Jones [10-25-20 21:06]: > I am still finding problems in establishing a 'custom' module layout now > that the Favorites column is removed. The following describes my approach > and some apparent problems that have resulted. > > a. I started with a 'scene referred' module set and then deleted all modules > that I would not generally use. That module grouping was then saved. > > b. Then I opened an image and turned on the most common modules and saved > each 'on' module as a named preset. > > c. Then I was able to see my module selection correctly shown in the 'active > module' column. > > d. Next I saved all of the active modules (with check marks) in a new style. > > My hope was that this style would place only my common modules (in the > correct order) in the active column for other images. To my surprise modules > from other groups not only appeared but were turned on. For instance > filmic-rgb and base-curve were both showing as being active!! > > I do understand that this is under development but I wonder if others are > having similar problems and have found a way around the difficulties. create a module/collection named "Fav" or your choice populate it with your favorite modules. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Main window too wide for screen
* Kent Tenney [10-20-20 22:05]: > display resolution is 1366 x 768 > > I don't know what 'how are you displaying' means. > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 8:42 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Kent Tenney [10-20-20 21:05]: > > > Howdy, > > > > > > on an older laptop, I can't fit the entire main window width. > > > I've reduced each section as much as possible via > > > mouse, still doesn't fit. > > > Is there setting to help? > > > > > > built from trunk on Ubuntu 20.04 > > > > what size is your display? > > how are you displaying dt? how are you starting dt? from the commandline? maximized? what desktop environment? I use plasma5/kde5 and it is possible to move a window which is not maximized by holding key down and left mouse button down and moving mouse. Might help you to see window manager controls. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Main window too wide for screen
* Kent Tenney [10-20-20 21:05]: > Howdy, > > on an older laptop, I can't fit the entire main window width. > I've reduced each section as much as possible via > mouse, still doesn't fit. > Is there setting to help? > > built from trunk on Ubuntu 20.04 what size is your display? how are you displaying dt? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
