[expert] qmail smtp-auth bug allows open relay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just wanted to comment that I had what appears to be a place scanning me for this exploit yesterday. I use Postfix though, so no issues. You should look very carefully at your configuration if you use qmail and the smtp-auth patches. BTW, some will claim that this is a bug in qmail. No, the code is fine. The original documentation came with a misconfiguration (which was changed in pretty short order, but some are afflicted with it). Plus, this is not an official DJB approved patch. For that matter, there are *NO* DJB approved patches. His only approved source is the qmail-1.03 tarball. Everything else is done by someone else and _those_ are the ones with the bugs, never qmail. Blue skies... Todd - - Forwarded message from John Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:17:09 -0600 From: John Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i To: W.D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: qmail smtp-auth bug allows open relay X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-40.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_LOOP autolearn=ham version=2.50 Nope, I thought it might be operational in nature. ergo spammers and others now scanning for qmail-smtp-auth patch users and using those weak sites as a relay. the issue is that those sites will PASS the current open relay check tools and thus not be BLACK LISTED. Hey, what a cool feature. Passes open-relay test, won't get black listed, and can be used to relay spam. this might cause more traffic,, more abuse complaints, more headaches for those in operations... ps: the URL is *from* the qmail list. cheers, john On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 08:45:44PM -0800, W.D. McKinney wrote: John, Did you mean to post this on the qmail list per chance ? Dee On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 08:34, John Brown wrote: seems that there are installs of the smtp-auth patch to qmail that accept anything as a user name and password and thus allow you to connect. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=qmailm=105452174430616w=2 is one URL that talks about this. There has been an increase is what appears to be qmail based open-relays over the last 5 days. Each of these servers pass the normal suite of open-relay tests. Spammers are scanning for SMTP-AUTH and STARTTLS based mail servers that may be misconfigured. Then using them to send out their trash. Some early docs on setting up qmail based smtp-auth systems had the config infor incorrect. This leads to /usr/bin/true being used as the password checker. :( From an operational perspective, I suspect we will see more SMTP scans The basic test (see URL above) should get incorporated into various open-relay testing scripts. cheers john brown chagres technologies, inc - - End forwarded message - - -- Blue skies... ToddProprietary Software Licenses: Duping a person into making a vow of ignorance and then selling them the fruits of knowledge is like making them believe they benefit from having their head held under water while someone sells them oxygen. Linux kernel 2.4.19-24mdk 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.12, 0.36 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/FOnIIBT1264ScBURAv/CAJ4lem/DbyyKkRCINqqvd297f9fN8QCeLdSr O42WMdYrDhrqf3rtTqP2uZE= =/CH9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] reading dvd (again)
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:26, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:19, dfox wrote: followup of course it helps to link /dev/dvd to /dev/scd0 uh, er, yeah, that was going to be number 4... All, Just talked with David on the phone. (Hey! found out we are neighbors) What seems to be happening is that when he boots into cooker (the main version on his box.) It hangs at configuring module dependencies. If he tries failsafe it seems to just go into a series of loops and core dumps. We are going to try the fix again tomorrow via the phone ... but before then, any thoughts? Tips on where what to look for will be helpful. My problem is ... with 2 CD burners I've worked with I have had no problems at all getting them to work from install on. (since 7.1 if you can believe that.) So my luck leaves me short on the trouble shooting end *grin*.. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Secured Mapped Drive over Internet?
I have machines throughout the internet running Linux and Windows. Is it possible to map a drive from PC to PC over the internet in a secure fashion? This way, a drive or mount on my PC would be remotely located. Thanks, Sevatio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Secured Mapped Drive over Internet?
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 00:51, Sevatio wrote: I have machines throughout the internet running Linux and Windows. Is it possible to map a drive from PC to PC over the internet in a secure fashion? This way, a drive or mount on my PC would be remotely located. Thanks, Sevatio Sevatio, Don't know on the windows side but for Linux I use shfs at http://shfs.sourceforge.net/ The mount works using ssh so it's as secure as ssh. Modules compiled straight up and it ... well... works. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
I'm not really worried about the temp...having read the docs from AMD, I won't worry till it hits 65C, which it has never done :) I'm not worried about the temp too, but I'm worried about the HD. If it reaches 45°C, you have to do something. In fact, I'm thinking to buy a case fan (termocontrolled, I want silence during winter) to lower the temperature: now systemp is 41°C, I won't exaggerate saying the HD is always about 4-6°C over the sys temp. Olaf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
At 21.11 15/07/2003, you wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. It is possible to get a better thermal resistance with another HSF, but not without going to a bearing based fan, and the HSF's that outperform the Areoflow don't do it by a significant margin and plus they weigh a ton cause usually they are solid copper. That can possibly put a physical strain on the mobo if it's in a tower case. Bearingless fans more reliable than ball bearing fans? are you sure? I always heard the opposite, but I know they are quiter (initially, after one or two years they are the same as ball bearing fans or even worse). Olaf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC's
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 03:07, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 09:45, Richard Bown wrote: Hi all I did send this in when the server was down so it looks like it got lost. My cable connection is not as good as it could be, so called out the cable guys and to my horror, his win98 laptop downloaded faster than this machine, My current NIC is a realtek 8139, and I always thought a linux machine would floor a poxy winyuk machine. What NICs are known to work well , ie fast.. In testing I've learned to love 3c905's and the Intel p100's ... Can you tell me which ones had the best performance out of all of them, without compromising anything. ? 10/100 class, that is. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Beotch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] newbie - ppp over atm
Hi, which is the best way for setting up pppoA with mdk 9.1? Thanks in advince for any help Evaristo -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] reading dvd (again)
James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:26, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:19, dfox wrote: followup of course it helps to link /dev/dvd to /dev/scd0 uh, er, yeah, that was going to be number 4... All, Just talked with David on the phone. (Hey! found out we are neighbors) What seems to be happening is that when he boots into cooker (the main version on his box.) It hangs at configuring module dependencies. If he tries failsafe it seems to just go into a series of loops and core dumps. We are going to try the fix again tomorrow via the phone ... but before then, any thoughts? Tips on where what to look for will be helpful. My problem is ... with 2 CD burners I've worked with I have had no problems at all getting them to work from install on. (since 7.1 if you can believe that.) So my luck leaves me short on the trouble shooting end *grin*.. James Hi What kernel does he have. There was load of stuff on cooker recently about unbootable 2.4.21 kernels. Fom memory a patched one is available now but its short of NFS which was what was apparently causing all the problems. Regards, Colin Close Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] OOo RC1 starts like a rocket compared to 1.03
Hi, Things are looking good for OpenOffice.org! It starts up so fast now compared to before. I find this most welcome :-) It now has a python interface to it as well. But I have no idea how easy or hard it would be to make use of that in terms of automation of repetitive tasks. Best wishes, Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Realtek 8139
Ensure you are not using the '8139too' driver. Its a little buggy and this shows during high bandwidth usage. BTW Donald Becker is THE linux network card driver guru, this site is predominantly based on his work and explains where i am coming from. http://www.scyld.com/network/rtl8139.html This may or may not help. I know my experience with the '8139too' left a nasty taste. On 16 Jul 2003 02:50:26 +0200 MailServiceDaemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The realtek 8139 equiped NIC's works but many problems is reported. Free BSD says that the 8139 is unstable when auto negotiation. My cable ISP wants half duplex and networkservice hangs when downloading. What i know there are 3 different 8139 chips (A,B,C?). Anyone knows how too find out wich one it is on the NIC? (no screwdriwer) Diference? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sending openoffice document as fax with kdeprintfax
On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 9:38 pm, R N dev wrote: the point is: not to pass per openoffice i.e. i'd like to print the document without opening it. I found KWord so much easier to set up and use than OOo for this. If efax is installed KWord automatically offers print-to-fax as an option. When selecting that it asks for name and fax number (which must NOT contain spaces, or it will not work), and an address book is maintained. I always use this if I need fax. Kdeprintfax is a frontend that takes a number of attachments and send them to modem using some filters (ps, text or...) I'd like to know if it's possible sending word or openoffice documents. KWord will open .doc documents, and can therefore fax them, but you cannot prepare a document in KWord and save it as .doc. This would make it a 2-stage job, which has nuisance value. The other thing you have to consider is whether you need to receive faxes, as that is much harder to achieve. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT - quake3
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 03:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Ya know, I don't know what happened, but I fired it up and now it works -
go figure. Now it just seems to take forever to start - I don't know -
maybe I'll just go back to reading books or watching tv, this computer
thing is giving me a tumor!
Make sure your harddisk uses the DMA mode.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=ST380011A, FwRev=3.06, SerialNo=3JV20WF8
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=156301488
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2: 1 2 3 4 5 6
Mine - b.e. is using UDMA5 :) The fastest setting :) Here the bonnie run
(while normal use of the system occured, e.g. reading Mails, starting
browsers etc.).
Version 1.02c --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random
-Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %C
pandora.solsys.o 1G 4984 82 31928 34 12815 12 4546 71 26850 17 136.3
--Sequential Create-- Random Create---
-Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-
files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %C
16 280 84 + +++ 32638 93 270 81 + +++ 1186 8
pandora.solsys.org,1G,4984,82,31928,34,12815,12,4546,71,26850,17,136.3,1,16,2884,+,+++,32638,93,270,81,+,+++,1186,80
Cheers :)
Joerg
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[expert] ethtool.h Compile problems
Hi Folks, I'm trying to compile some tools using the wireless Extensions etc. However - everything I compile always bails out on the ethtool.h include file. Anyone noticed this before ? Note - I'm using the kernel-source-2.4.21-0.18mdk - but recompiled to use the C3 Nemiah CPU. No patches applied - except that I use the Alsa-0.9.4 drivers on the system - which should not affect any compiling though. May it be a gcc-version problem ? The ethtool.h file is the same for gcc and the kernel (checked using diff). Thx for any hint. Here the output: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wbad-function-cast -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -c -o wwidget.o `test -f 'wwidget.cpp' || echo './'`wwidget.cpp In file included from /usr/include/linux/wireless.h:75, from wcard.h:34, from wwidget.h:32, from wwidget.cpp:18: /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:18: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:19: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:20: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:21: 'u16' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:22: 'u8' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:23: 'u8' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:24: 'u8' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:25: 'u8' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:26: 'u8' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:27: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:28: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:29: parse error before `[' token /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:35: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:43: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:44: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:45: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:46: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:52: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:53: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:54: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:55: parse error before `[' token /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:60: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:61: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:66: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:67: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:68: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:69: parse error before `[' token /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:74: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:75: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:76: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:77: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:78: parse error before `[' token /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:83: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:89: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:97: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:104: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:105: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:111: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:119: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:126: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:127: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:134: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:143: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:144: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:150: 'u32' is
[expert] Internal mail
Root is sending me messages that end up in /var/spool/mail/anne. I would like to set up KMail to bring these messages into a new folder, but don't know how to set up internal mail accounts. Is it possible without using extra services? What do I need to do? What should I read? If I can sort this out I would like to extend to internal mail across our mixed lan. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sending openoffice document as fax with kdeprintfax
I found KWord so much easier to set up and use than OOo for this. If I believe it is. But i know it's not so difficult setting up OOo too. I have no problem to print a document on fax using either koffice or OOo. I also fixed the problem that allow me to use kprinter instead of perl_cups (kprinter --stdin) KWord will open .doc documents, and can therefore fax them, but you cannot prepare a document in KWord and save it as .doc. This would make it a 2-stage job, which has nuisance value. yes, but remenber that a lot of people use MS Office and sometimes we have to convert our documents to share them. (i.e. doc or pdf) Anyway my problem is to print them on fax without open them. Try to think to people that have to send a fax with a scanned image and a msword/swriter document. Why do I have to open a new document, import the image and the msword/swriter file to print on fax? (i think the problem is also present with KOffice) The reasonable way is using a tool like kdeprintfax i.e. easy to use. Setting up new printer (ps one on file) with spadmin and soffice -pt PRINTER command line seem to be the rigth solution, but i've to test better. The other thing you have to consider is whether you need to receive faxes, as that is much harder to achieve. this is not a problem at present using efax. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] newbie - ppp over atm
urpmi rp-pppoe then as root in a terminal: adsl-setup and answer the questions. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Evaristo Ferrari Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2003 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] newbie - ppp over atm Hi, which is the best way for setting up pppoA with mdk 9.1? Thanks in advince for any help Evaristo -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 09:16 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 02:11 pm, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: Anyone know which mbs have the core temp sensors? It's the processor that has the sensor, the motherboard must have the ability to read it, and then libsensors has to be able to translate it. For instance, my Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra has the ability to read the on chip diode, but it uses the lm90 chip which is not supported by lm-sensors. I meant to ask which motherboards had the ability to read the core temps. Sorry for the ambiguity. Someone suggested the Tom's Hardware website and I may have a look there. Replacing the motherboards is not an urgent issue, but it's something to keep in mind for the future. Thanks -- Thomas K. Gamble Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Diagnostics Instrumentation (C-ADI) p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 MS-E543 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 01:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: But you can chill those puppies and you might be able to get stability under high load with no problem. What I would do is install two Vantec Areoflow heat sink fans (they have copper cores, surrounded by a block of machined aluminum) after cleaning the chip surfaces carefully with a q-tip soaked in odorless mineral spirits to get rid of the old thermal compound. Same for the HSF. Get some Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound (the best thermal resistance rating you can get) and use that to install your Areoflows (model number VA4-C7040). Arctic Silver 3 is pretty much the best thermal compound around and as a result of it's superior thermal resistance it can get your core down by as much as 7C. The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. It is possible to get a better thermal resistance with another HSF, but not without going to a bearing based fan, and the HSF's that outperform the Areoflow don't do it by a significant margin and plus they weigh a ton cause usually they are solid copper. That can possibly put a physical strain on the mobo if it's in a tower case. I've actually ordered a couple of these to try them out although I don't know how much of an improvement they'll be over the Thermaltake Volcanos I have installed. Given that the computers are in safes, noise is not an issue, at least as far as the computers are concerned. Now the safes are a different story. I have three safes and each has two 10 inch exhaust fans. The background noise level in the room is about 62db. Annoying but I'm told it's not a hazard. -- Thomas K. Gamble Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Diagnostics Instrumentation (C-ADI) p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 MS-E543 LX -- Thomas K. Gamble Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Diagnostics Instrumentation (C-ADI) p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 MS-E543 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] aiuto!!!
Ciao a tutti, mi chiamo Stefano e vi scrivo da Bologna. Tempo fa ho installato Mandrake 8.2 ma ho avuto da subito dei problemi con i dispositivi cdrom e floppy. Ogni volta che tento di accedervi compare una finestra che mi nega l'accesso. Gli how-to che ho letto in proposito docono che si tratti di un reale inconveniente. Così ho deciso di disinstallare Mandrake 8.2 e di provare a installare la versione 9.1, per vedere se cambia qualcosa. Sulla mia macchina ho 2 hard disk: uno con win98, l'altro con mandrake 8.2. Vorrei sapere come fare per disinstallare quest'ultimo per poi provare ad installare 9.1. Help me! Grazie Stefano Macchiavelli, Bologna. __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Internal mail
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 06:39 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Root is sending me messages that end up in /var/spool/mail/anne. I would like to set up KMail to bring these messages into a new folder, but don't know how to set up internal mail accounts. Is it possible without using extra services? What do I need to do? What should I read? If I can sort this out I would like to extend to internal mail across our mixed lan. Are these messages that are sent to root and forwarded to you, like system notifications? If so, you could create a folder in kmail and filter on the from address ( eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to sort them into that folder. Anne -- Thomas K. Gamble Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Diagnostics Instrumentation (C-ADI) p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 MS-E543 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Internal mail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:39:52 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Root is sending me messages that end up in /var/spool/mail/anne. I
Due to entries in /etc/aliases -- adjust and run newaliases if you want
to keep root stuff separate.
would like to set up KMail to bring these messages into a new folder,
Should only need to add account and/or filtering rule... I don't run
Kmail since I think sylpheed-claws is the best IMO; but a quick look
suggests you are looking for ConfigureKmail-{Identities,Network} where
you can create new identities(accounts) and servers... It's not obvious
how to tell Kmail that accountA uses serverX and accountB uses serverY;
but that's the general area...
but don't know how to set up internal mail accounts. Is it possible
Any valid userid can receive mail via [EMAIL PROTECTED] assuming you have
postfix or sendmail running on that machine; otherwise, you may need
fetchmail.
without using extra services? What do I need to do? What should I
postfix/sendmail/fetchmail are required to accept/fetch mail into your
system for multiple users.
read? If I can sort this out I would like to extend to internal mail
across our mixed lan.
Lots of resources available... what do you really want to do? Do you
have your own domain? Are you prepared to run your own mailhost? Do you
need a backup server? Wanna be your own boss when it comes to spam
handling? etc, etc... I've documented some of my postfix stuff at
http://pfortin.com/Linux/PostFix it that helps...
Anne
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Re: [expert] Internal mail
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 05:39, Anne Wilson wrote: Root is sending me messages that end up in /var/spool/mail/anne. I would like to set up KMail to bring these messages into a new folder, but don't know how to set up internal mail accounts. Is it possible without using extra services? What do I need to do? What should I read? If I can sort this out I would like to extend to internal mail across our mixed lan. Anne make sure that you have mailx installed, then go to /etc/aliases and add: anne[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or just set up another account in the MUA pointing to local files -- I don't recall how to do this in Kmail, but I know it used to be an option. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake 7.0
I've just come across a disk containing Mdk 7.0. Wasn't someone recently asking for this? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Problems while logging in with GDM
Dear people, I have installedMandrake 8.1 with gdm and gnome. Everything worked very well untillasudden shutdownlast week.Since then I am experiencing the following problem: when I try to login in the system with gdm as root there is no problem but if I try to login in asnormal user the system log me out and I return to the gdm login shell. I think during the shutdown something in my gdm.conf changed butI don't know what could it be. I would appreciate any help. Thank you very much in advance David
Re: [expert] Internal mail
On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 2:54 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:39:52 +0100 Anne Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Root is sending me messages that end up in /var/spool/mail/anne.
I
Due to entries in /etc/aliases -- adjust and run newaliases if
you want to keep root stuff separate.
would like to set up KMail to bring these messages into a new
folder,
Should only need to add account and/or filtering rule... I don't
run Kmail since I think sylpheed-claws is the best IMO; but a quick
look suggests you are looking for
ConfigureKmail-{Identities,Network} where you can create new
identities(accounts) and servers... It's not obvious how to tell
Kmail that accountA uses serverX and accountB uses serverY; but
that's the general area...
but don't know how to set up internal mail accounts. Is it
possible
Any valid userid can receive mail via [EMAIL PROTECTED] assuming
you have postfix or sendmail running on that machine; otherwise,
you may need fetchmail.
without using extra services? What do I need to do? What should
I
postfix/sendmail/fetchmail are required to accept/fetch mail into
your system for multiple users.
read? If I can sort this out I would like to extend to internal
mail across our mixed lan.
Lots of resources available... what do you really want to do? Do
you have your own domain? Are you prepared to run your own
mailhost? Do you need a backup server? Wanna be your own boss when
it comes to spam handling? etc, etc... I've documented some of my
postfix stuff at http://pfortin.com/Linux/PostFix it that helps...
Anne
Hi, Pierre.
I have kmail set up to monitor and download from 3 external mail
accounts, but when it comes to setting up the internal account I'm
stumped when it comes to entering the server. I'll read your pages
to see if I understand any better when I've done g
The messages that I'm concerned with for the moment are from msec or
cron, with headers like
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Original-To: anne
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: by anne-linux.lydgate.net (Postfix, from userid 0)
id 33863671C5; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:09:18 -0400 (EDT)
I would also like to be able to send internal mail to other users on
the lan. At the moment I have to use their address on our domain,
sending it externally, which seems silly when we could communicate
through a few walls.
I would guess that I have to actually set up a mail server on this box
to deal with it, and have others download from that, but clearly
messages are getting from msec and cron via root to me, so maybe I'm
misunderstanding.
Anne
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Re: [expert] aiuto!!!
Hi, You shoud send this mail to the expert-it mailing list. Ciao, dovresti mandare questa mail al gruppo expert-it Direi comunque che non ti convenga disinstallare mdk 8.2 semplicemente riformatta il disco e installa la 9.1. Se non sai come fare puoi utilizzar hardrake da mdk 8.2 per distruggere la partizione (riformattala) Angelo --- stefano macchiavelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao a tutti, mi chiamo Stefano e vi scrivo da Bologna. Tempo fa ho installato Mandrake 8.2 ma ho avuto da subito dei problemi con i dispositivi cdrom e floppy. Ogni volta che tento di accedervi compare una finestra che mi nega l'accesso. Gli how-to che ho letto in proposito docono che si tratti di un reale inconveniente. Così ho deciso di disinstallare Mandrake 8.2 e di provare a installare la versione 9.1, per vedere se cambia qualcosa. Sulla mia macchina ho 2 hard disk: uno con win98, l'altro con mandrake 8.2. Vorrei sapere come fare per disinstallare quest'ultimo per poi provare ad installare 9.1. Help me! Grazie Stefano Macchiavelli, Bologna. __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OOo RC1 starts like a rocket compared to 1.03
I just installed this. I noticed that oowriter is called swriter. Is that just for testing in the RC? I thought 'swriter was only used in the StarOffice suite. Miark On 16 Jul 2003 21:18:17 +1200, Damon Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things are looking good for OpenOffice.org! It starts up so fast now compared to before. I find this most welcome :-) It now has a python interface to it as well. But I have no idea how easy or hard it would be to make use of that in terms of automation of repetitive tasks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] aiuto!!!
stefano macchiavelli wrote: Ciao a tutti, mi chiamo Stefano e vi scrivo da Bologna. Tempo fa ho installato Mandrake 8.2 ma ho avuto da subito dei problemi con i dispositivi cdrom e floppy. Ogni volta che tento di accedervi compare una finestra che mi nega l'accesso. Gli how-to che ho letto in proposito docono che si tratti di un reale inconveniente. Così ho deciso di disinstallare Mandrake 8.2 e di provare a installare la versione 9.1, per vedere se cambia qualcosa. Sulla mia macchina ho 2 hard disk: uno con win98, l'altro con mandrake 8.2. Vorrei sapere come fare per disinstallare quest'ultimo per poi provare ad installare 9.1. Help me! Grazie Stefano Macchiavelli, Bologna. You will not need to remove the 8.2 version to install 9.1. Just install in the same partition after formating during the install phase. Mandrake version 9.1 installs and works qiute well. Larry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] OT - quake3
or better yet run it with artsdsp -m /usr/local/games/quake3/quake3 On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 07:47, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: Quake is probably trying to access the sound card during the forever. Before running Quake, try doing a killall artsd and seeing if that helps. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT - quake3 On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I've been REALLY busy the last few months and haven't had the chance to play my favorite game, q3a. I just started it up last night and after finding that I had to install the latest point release, 1.32b, to make it work again - I did a few warm up games then jumped onto multiplayer - aaa!!! Where did all the servers go??? PLEASE tell me it's something simple!! Did everyone quit playing quake??? I don't think I could make it through life knowing that q3a is no longer out there!! I guess I took it for granted, just thinking it would always be there for me, I should have paid more attention, I feel awful!! Ok, enough drama, does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks :) Mike they saw ya coming and ran away :-) I had to make some change or another to make it view punkbuster games in the server list. I can't remember right now and I'm hesitant to fire up q3a in the office, but it was a setting in the multiplayer server browser. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ya know, I don't know what happened, but I fired it up and now it works - go figure. Now it just seems to take forever to start - I don't know - maybe I'll just go back to reading books or watching tv, this computer thing is giving me a tumor! Mike __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] choosing a firewall distro
Experts, Most of my friends have suggested using IPCOP or SMOOTHWALL for my f/w. question, is there a noticeable difference between the two? I ran both and they seem almost the same.. I'm new to this firewall stuff. All I would like is a simple safe F/W to protect my small private school network.. in short I don't need to kill ants with lighting bolts!! any suggestions are welcomed! TIA -- Grasshopper c/o GES Register Linux user # 199685 Sent 2u on a M$ free system!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:24, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 01:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: But you can chill those puppies and you might be able to get stability under high load with no problem. What I would do is install two Vantec Areoflow heat sink fans (they have copper cores, surrounded by a block of machined aluminum) after cleaning the chip surfaces carefully with a q-tip soaked in odorless mineral spirits to get rid of the old thermal compound. Same for the HSF. Get some Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound (the best thermal resistance rating you can get) and use that to install your Areoflows (model number VA4-C7040). Arctic Silver 3 is pretty much the best thermal compound around and as a result of it's superior thermal resistance it can get your core down by as much as 7C. The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. It is possible to get a better thermal resistance with another HSF, but not without going to a bearing based fan, and the HSF's that outperform the Areoflow don't do it by a significant margin and plus they weigh a ton cause usually they are solid copper. That can possibly put a physical strain on the mobo if it's in a tower case. I've actually ordered a couple of these to try them out although I don't know how much of an improvement they'll be over the Thermaltake Volcanos I have installed. Given that the computers are in safes, noise is not an issue, at least as far as the computers are concerned. Now the safes are a different story. I have three safes and each has two 10 inch exhaust fans. The background noise level in the room is about 62db. Annoying but I'm told it's not a hazard. Thomas, Not a hazard due to db level, but it can affect your hearing in that the the air in the room pulses rhythmically. If you are an old fart like myself this can be more damaging than when you were 21 because your eardrums are stiffer than before. For short times of exposure you are ok, but if you are going to spend a large amount of time in rooms like this I'd highly recommend the foam earplugs, or equivalent. Those aren't phones you're hearing. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] choosing a firewall distro
If you just want a quick-n-dirty stateful inspection engine to keep the script kiddies out, any firewall package with reasonable defaults will do the job. There are about twenty packages on http://www.distrowatch.com aiming to provide just that, including Mandrake's own MNF. If you want a platform you can learn from or build on, I would suggest a third choice: http://leaf.sourceforge.net, grab a Bering ISO and load that up. Security is a process not a product. My organization is small and therefore unnoticed on the Internet is no excuse for shoddy security. There are a million reasons why, but in the interests of time I'll just provide one: you may not be protecting data that is of much interest to anyone except your students and their parents: but you still represent a pool of computing resources with a network connection. The bad guys who don't care about your data will be much more interested in using your resources as a spam blaster or a launching pad for attacks against other sites. Having decent security on the Internet is not like putting a lock on your house, it's more like putting locks on your car. Jack On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 09:13, Gavin wrote: Experts, Most of my friends have suggested using IPCOP or SMOOTHWALL for my f/w. question, is there a noticeable difference between the two? I ran both and they seem almost the same.. I'm new to this firewall stuff. All I would like is a simple safe F/W to protect my small private school network.. in short I don't need to kill ants with lighting bolts!! any suggestions are welcomed! TIA -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 01:21, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: I'm not really worried about the temp...having read the docs from AMD, I won't worry till it hits 65C, which it has never done :) I'm not worried about the temp too, but I'm worried about the HD. If it reaches 45°C, you have to do something. In fact, I'm thinking to buy a case fan (termocontrolled, I want silence during winter) to lower the temperature: now systemp is 41°C, I won't exaggerate saying the HD is always about 4-6°C over the sys temp. Olaf Olaf, I'm reminded of a story from a friend of mine. Had a HDD overheat. Couldn't read it. Stuck it in the freezer overnight. And then it would work for about 30 minutes. Stick it back in the freezer... read off more data. About 5 or 6 cycles of this were needed before they could get all the data off of it, and then trash it. (Why I like seagates new drives they run super cool.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. If you are referring to the old bushing fans, there is no way they are more reliable. They simply do not last. A sealed bearing will last for years and years. A bushing fan might last 3, but usually 18-24 months is all they can handle. I'm currently running some sealed bearing fans that are actually much quieter than the old bearingless fans by a factor of 3. Lorne, I think by bearingless they actually do mean sealed bearing. It's more a case of marketing taking a technical term and misusing it to the point of extreme obfuscation of term (ie Trusted Computing by M$) rather than what it actually does mean. But you are right the sealed bearing fans last seemingly forever. Don't know how long because the rest of the box gets so far out of date I never use the comp that long. (I've got one on a 233mhz pI that is 9 years old). James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ethtool.h Compile problems
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 04:49, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hi Folks, I'm trying to compile some tools using the wireless Extensions etc. However - everything I compile always bails out on the ethtool.h include file. Anyone noticed this before ? Note - I'm using the kernel-source-2.4.21-0.18mdk - but recompiled to use the C3 Nemiah CPU. No patches applied - except that I use the Alsa-0.9.4 drivers on the system - which should not affect any compiling though. May it be a gcc-version problem ? The ethtool.h file is the same for gcc and the kernel (checked using diff). Thx for any hint. Here the output: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wbad-function-cast -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -c -o wwidget.o `test -f 'wwidget.cpp' || echo './'`wwidget.cpp In file included from /usr/include/linux/wireless.h:75, from wcard.h:34, from wwidget.h:32, from wwidget.cpp:18: /usr/include/linux/ethtool.h:18: 'u32' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. Joerg, Just for fun I threw your error message above into google. It came back with one hit, and it is related to, get this, Mandrake 9.1 and wireless. Specifically covering the amtel drivers in this authors case. http://iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de/pipermail/atmel-wlan-usb/2003-April/001564.html is the link, for the start of the thread. Apparently the ethtool.h include line is dispensable and can just be commented out (the thread provides a link to this info.) and will let you carry on from there. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Internal mail
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 05:39, Anne Wilson wrote: Root is sending me messages that end up in /var/spool/mail/anne. I would like to set up KMail to bring these messages into a new folder, but don't know how to set up internal mail accounts. Is it possible without using extra services? What do I need to do? What should I read? If I can sort this out I would like to extend to internal mail across our mixed lan. Anne Anne, I don't use KMail but you should be able to just set up a filter in kmail, filtering on sender that puts it into any folder you like. From a look at the product under Settings Configure Filters. It seems to be pretty standard in that respect. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Internal mail - next step
On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 3:49 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I would also like to be able to send internal mail to other users on the lan. At the moment I have to use their address on our domain, sending it externally, which seems silly when we could communicate through a few walls. Well, I found how to set up a local mailbox in kmail, and I set sendmail as the protocol. Right? I sent the first message to a windows machine, but another Mandrake machine should be on soon, so I'll send one there too and see what happens. Next question, then. How do I set up the windows machines to be able to send/receive local mail? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OOo RC1 starts like a rocket compared to 1.03
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:44, Dave Sherman wrote: Miark wrote: I just installed this. I noticed that oowriter is called swriter. Is that just for testing in the RC? I thought 'swriter was only used in the StarOffice suite. I noticed that in Beta2 as well. Maybe they are trying to provide a clean upgrade path from StarOffice to OpenOffice.org ;-) If you notice it's swriter in the stock on MDK as well. oowriter is just a symlink to ooffice/swriter. AFAIK the distro's do this so that you can have both installed in parallel. Go to /usr/lib/openoffice/program/ and you'll find the swriter command on 9.1 for example. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems while logging in with GDM
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:44, R N dev wrote: Do you return into gdm or into a text-mode console? In the first case it sounds like your home config files are broken. Try CTRL-ALT-F1 and login in console mode what happens? I've had this one. It's a pain but what got screwed up where the window manager config files. (In this case the .kde* directory files.) Try removing all of these files (log in as root to console and cd to the users directory and do a carefule rm -Rf .kde* ) then try logging in again. It's a pain for sure to re-setup kde but the only out I've found when they get hosed. Seems that sometimes during a hard shutdown all of these files get scrambled. James --- David G. Alcantara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear people, I have installed Mandrake 8.1 with gdm and gnome. Everything worked very well untill a sudden shutdown last week. Since then I am experiencing the following problem: when I try to login in the system with gdm as root there is no problem but if I try to login in as normal user the system log me out and I return to the gdm login shell. I think during the shutdown something in my gdm.conf changed but I don't know what could it be. I would appreciate any help. Thank you very much in advance David __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 13:45, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:24, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: HSF's that outperform the Areoflow don't do it by a significant margin and plus they weigh a ton cause usually they are solid copper. That can possibly put a physical strain on the mobo if it's in a tower case. I've actually ordered a couple of these to try them out although I don't know how much of an improvement they'll be over the Thermaltake Volcanos I have installed. Given that the computers are in safes, noise is not an issue, at least as far as the computers are concerned. Now the safes are a different story. I have three safes and each has two 10 inch exhaust fans. The background noise level in the room is about 62db. Annoying but I'm told it's not a hazard. Thomas, Don't forget your Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound. You need that. It has the best heat transfer rating of any of the others. For thermal resistance test results on some Volcano 9 and 7+ vs the VA4-C7040's, please see the following: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030113/cooler5-39.html#hot_or_cold_thermal_resistance_is_decisive Yes, the Va4-C7040 beat those Volcano's in this roundup. The noise levels *could* be made to be comparable, but he had to reduce the rpm's of the volcano's down to 1800 in order to achieve that. Meanwhile the VA4-C7040's were running at full speed for the noise level tests you see. Thomas, Not a hazard due to db level, but it can affect your hearing in that the the air in the room pulses rhythmically. If you are an old fart like myself this can be more damaging than when you were 21 because your eardrums are stiffer than before. For short times of exposure you are ok, but if you are going to spend a large amount of time in rooms like this I'd highly recommend the foam earplugs, or equivalent. Those aren't phones you're hearing. *grin* James James, Fascinating. I didn't realize that. I need to watch the noise levels around here a little more carefully. On a side note: While doing some overclocking tests I noticed that under full CPU load the mobo sensor was reporting 59C. This naturally bothered me quite a bit. I checked inside the case. Guess what? A SCSI cable was hanging over the HSF with only about a quarter inch clearance or so. About half the fan was covered. So I rerouted the cable, and the temp dropped under full load a full 5C; down to 54C. I think I'm going to refit the whole machine with round IDE and SCSI cables. --LX P.S. BTW, I'm still curious about your NIC testing. :) -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC's
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 01:40, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 03:07, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 09:45, Richard Bown wrote: Hi all I did send this in when the server was down so it looks like it got lost. My cable connection is not as good as it could be, so called out the cable guys and to my horror, his win98 laptop downloaded faster than this machine, My current NIC is a realtek 8139, and I always thought a linux machine would floor a poxy winyuk machine. What NICs are known to work well , ie fast.. In testing I've learned to love 3c905's and the Intel p100's ... Can you tell me which ones had the best performance out of all of them, without compromising anything. ? 10/100 class, that is. LX For speed. The pro100 edged out the 3c905 (especially when using multiple NICS to a single network as in for example a web server.) by about 2 or 3 percent. For reliability. I've yet to have either one fail (over the last 4 years.) so I don't have a curve on that. In my old firewall some testing I did with them showed on a 100mb network the 3com had a true 42mb throughput, the pro100 about 43-44mb and a linksys about 32mb. One note, It also is affected by driver quality. One advantage afforded winders. The authors of the driver has access to data OSS authors often don't, but in the case of these cards I'd say it's pretty even. (anyone need a collection of bad netgear and linksys nics?) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] choosing a firewall distro
IPCop is a fork of SmoothWall .99. Either one is good. However IPCop uses a 2.4.20 kernel and smoothwall still uses a 2.2 kernel. Also IPCop can save your configuration on a floppy, so if you have to reinstall you can use the disk for quick recovery without having to remember your settings. For me that feature alone makes IPCop better. :^) Ralph On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:13 pm, Gavin wrote: Experts, Most of my friends have suggested using IPCOP or SMOOTHWALL for my f/w. question, is there a noticeable difference between the two? I ran both and they seem almost the same.. I'm new to this firewall stuff. All I would like is a simple safe F/W to protect my small private school network.. in short I don't need to kill ants with lighting bolts!! any suggestions are welcomed! TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] aiuto!!!
mi chiamo Stefano e vi scrivo da Bologna. Tempo fa ho installato Mandrake 8.2 ma ho avuto da subito dei problemi con i dispositivi cdrom e floppy. Ogni volta che tento di accedervi compare una finestra che mi nega l'accesso. Gli how-to che ho letto in proposito docono che si tratti di un reale inconveniente. Così ho deciso di disinstallare Mandrake 8.2 e di provare a installare la versione 9.1, per vedere se cambia qualcosa. Sulla mia macchina ho 2 hard disk: uno con win98, l'altro con mandrake 8.2. Vorrei sapere come fare per disinstallare quest'ultimo per poi provare ad installare 9.1. Hai sbagliato lista, questa è la [EMAIL PROTECTED], non la [EMAIL PROTECTED] Comunque, quando stai installando la 9.1 e ti viene chiesto in quali partizioni metterla, semplicemente usa le vecchie partizioni che hai fatto per la 8.2 e formattale. Aggiungo che la 9.1 dovebbe avere meno problemi con il supermount (l'origine dei tuoi problemi). Ciao Olaf P.S. io sono spesso a Bologna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Internal mail - next step
On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 9:00 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 3:49 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I would also like to be able to send internal mail to other users on the lan. At the moment I have to use their address on our domain, sending it externally, which seems silly when we could communicate through a few walls. Well, I found how to set up a local mailbox in kmail, and I set sendmail as the protocol. Right? I sent the first message to a windows machine, but another Mandrake machine should be on soon, so I'll send one there too and see what happens. Next question, then. How do I set up the windows machines to be able to send/receive local mail? Well, you don't, exactly ... as you're already aware, Windows machines are fairly brain-dead, and you can only do so much with them. ;) What you /can/ do is to have your Mandrake system handle the local mail for everyone on the LAN, and have the Winboxes deal with that for the sending and receiving thereof. You'll need to set up users on the Mandrake box for each individual who will be receiving mail; these users do not need login privileges, and can have their default shell set to /bin/false to prevent this (can be done with Userdrake, as they are created). Pseudo-users can also be configured in the /etc/aliases file, so that sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will distribute copies to several specific users automatically. Remember to always run newaliases, then postfix reload, after changing the aliases file. To get the Winboxes to communicate with this setup, you need two things on anne-linux: a copy of Postfix that will accept mail from other IPs on the LAN, and a POP and/or IMAP server that will let those systems retrieve their mail from your system. Postfix you already have, for POP/IMAP you install the imap200* RPM from the CDs. The imap RPM installs with POP turned on by default, and the other three protocols it offers can be turned on with chkconfig: chkconfig imap on chkconfig imaps on chkconfig pop3s on (It offers a fifth protocol, POP2, but you don't need that.) After doing this, the xinetd daemon will need to be restarted (it handles starting and stopping these services when they are required). You'll also need to add a line like the following to your /etc/hosts.allow file: ALL : 192.168.0. This allows access to these services to boxes on the 192.168.0.X network. You then configure the Winboxes' mail clients by setting up accounts that point to anne-linux's IP address for both SMTP sending and POP3 (or IMAP) retrieval, with the email addresses of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you can use the FQDN for anne-linux if you wish, but for this sort of local delivery arrangement it's not needed). These accounts on the Windows MUAs are in addition to the existing ones, not in place of them, to be clear. If I've left anything out, someone will mention it; if you have questions (or concerns I haven't addressed), let us know. This is quite doable. HTH! Thanks Bill and Pierre. It's getting late now, but I'll study both of these tomorrow and see what I can do. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
Which mark and model? I'm really concerned about noise and temp... I'm running a XP 1800+ (1500MHz) downclocked to 1100MHz in summer (40ºC in the room!). To me it's quite acceptable cpu temp go up to 60ºC at full load with a noise less than 40dB El mié, 16-07-2003 a las 15:59, Lorne escribió: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. If you are referring to the old bushing fans, there is no way they are more reliable. They simply do not last. A sealed bearing will last for years and years. A bushing fan might last 3, but usually 18-24 months is all they can handle. I'm currently running some sealed bearing fans that are actually much quieter than the old bearingless fans by a factor of 3. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems while logging in with GDM
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:44, R N dev wrote: Do you return into gdm or into a text-mode console? In the first case it sounds like your home config files are broken. Try CTRL-ALT-F1 and login in console mode what happens? I've had this one. It's a pain but what got screwed up where the window manager config files. (In this case the .kde* directory files.) Try removing all of these files (log in as root to console and cd to the users directory and do a carefule rm -Rf .kde* ) then try logging in again. It's a pain for sure to re-setup kde but the only out I've found when they get hosed. Seems that sometimes during a hard shutdown all of these files get scrambled. One easy way to test for this is to log in from gdm selecting a different window manager from the one you normally use; IOW, if you're a KDE user, try logging in to Gnome or IceWM. If it works, it's the KDE configuration files that are hosed. -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Permissions prevents archiving of mail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Christian Dysthe wrote: I use a program 'archivemail to archive my mailboxes. However, the program can not access /var/mail/user for archiving because of permissions. What can I do to have this program get access to my spool? My other mail is stored in /home/user/mail and is archived without problems. I am running Mandrake 9.1, default IMAP and Squirrelmal. From a quick perusal of the manpage (looks nifty, BTW, thanks for turning me on to its existence), this is not strictly what it's for; it's designed to archive the stuff in /home/user/mail ... this leads to the question, Why are you leaving some mails in your inbox (the spool) long enough to even /need/ archiving? If what you're really looking for is a *backup* solution, I'd say that a cron job run as root to tar the spools up periodically (and then put the tarball somewhere safe) is a cleaner solution, and can be done in addition to this strategy for the handling of the personal mail folders. Bear in mind that archiving is one thing, backing up is another. Everyone has their own style of dealing with e-mail, of course, and the content and nature of their email flow will be unique as well, but FWIW, I've found that if I set up a few mail folders and a few filters that sort incoming mail into them intelligently, all I have left in my inbox once this procedure completes is the occasional mail that doesn't fit a filter, and a pile of Spam. I sort the former manually into one of a selection of catch-all folders (i.e., I have a humor one for the funny stuff that my friends will send me), and delete the rest of the inbox en masse. I've found that keeping a clean inbox has been an enormous help to me. SquirrelMail makes setting up folders and filtering quite easy; I use it myself here. It's an excellent package, IMHO. I use Pine as my primary mail client when I'm sitting here at the 'puter, and my SquirrelMail filters are set up to mimic my Pine filtering, so the right messages get put into the right folders no matter which way I access my mail. A more elegant solution would be to use procmail, and therefore not need the filtering function of either client app - with the added benefits of a single point of configuration, and the fact that the filtering would occur immediately upon initial delivery (rather than at some later point, when a mail client is run) - but I haven't gotten that ambitious just yet. ;) I love the fact that because SquirrelMail uses IMAP to give remote access to my stored mail folders, I can be visiting at an internet-connected friend's house, and a conversation like the following one can occur: ME: Did Tony send you that link to the Flash animation with the BSOD? THEM: Nope, haven't seen it. ME: Move over a second, then. You'll love it. clickety-click, as I access SquirrelMail and my humor folder from his system (and by using only his browser), then click on the link in the mail message that I had saved into that folder when I first read it in Pine ME: Check this out ... moving aside (Oh, the link? http://www.ubergeek.tv/whatswrong ... if you're easily offended by a bit of coarse language, best not to bother with it g). I know that this is more info than you asked for, but perhaps it will give an idea or two to those who haven't explored the possibilities of IMAP and SquirrelMail, or thought much about the many strategies that can be used to make handling of email more flexible, and better suited to one's needs. For a more specific solution, you may find that using a .procmailrc file to redirect all of your incoming mails to a folder like /home/user/in, and then filtering further the contents of /that/ folder (rather than the inbox itself) in the same fashion you use now on the inbox, will give you what you want in the most effortless manner. As always, YMMV. :) HTH! -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 17:04, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. If you are referring to the old bushing fans, there is no way they are more reliable. They simply do not last. A sealed bearing will last for years and years. A bushing fan might last 3, but usually 18-24 months is all they can handle. I'm currently running some sealed bearing fans that are actually much quieter than the old bearingless fans by a factor of 3. This is not the same thing. This is new bearingless technology. It utilizes something called a magnetic tip. My understanding is that the fan blade is suspended by a magnetic field. In addition to being super quiet, it of course means their reliability is much higher. Not entirely, these type of motors are prone to disruptive EM fields. So if you live in Northern Canada and theres a solar flare, you will have to be careful to align the PC so that the magnetic fields do not cancel . the same can also be said of living under 400KV power lines. That peak power surge while the ads are on tv could cause your fan to fail if the magnetic fields are not aligned. Remember Maxwells rules for determining the position of your PC. Richard LX -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] rfbdrake gets server's cpu to 100%
Every time I try to connect through rfbdrake from my laptop (MDK9.1 on a XP1800+) to my desktop PC (a MDK8.2 on a XP1800+), my PC CPU gets 100%, all the time even when just typing password to connect to rfbdrake. Any hints?? -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Internal mail - next step
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 3:49 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I would also like to be able to send internal mail to other users on the lan. At the moment I have to use their address on our domain, sending it externally, which seems silly when we could communicate through a few walls. Well, I found how to set up a local mailbox in kmail, and I set sendmail as the protocol. Right? I sent the first message to a windows machine, but another Mandrake machine should be on soon, so I'll send one there too and see what happens. Next question, then. How do I set up the windows machines to be able to send/receive local mail? Well, you don't, exactly ... as you're already aware, Windows machines are fairly brain-dead, and you can only do so much with them. ;) What you /can/ do is to have your Mandrake system handle the local mail for everyone on the LAN, and have the Winboxes deal with that for the sending and receiving thereof. You'll need to set up users on the Mandrake box for each individual who will be receiving mail; these users do not need login privileges, and can have their default shell set to /bin/false to prevent this (can be done with Userdrake, as they are created). Pseudo-users can also be configured in the /etc/aliases file, so that sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will distribute copies to several specific users automatically. Remember to always run newaliases, then postfix reload, after changing the aliases file. To get the Winboxes to communicate with this setup, you need two things on anne-linux: a copy of Postfix that will accept mail from other IPs on the LAN, and a POP and/or IMAP server that will let those systems retrieve their mail from your system. Postfix you already have, for POP/IMAP you install the imap200* RPM from the CDs. The imap RPM installs with POP turned on by default, and the other three protocols it offers can be turned on with chkconfig: chkconfig imap on chkconfig imaps on chkconfig pop3s on (It offers a fifth protocol, POP2, but you don't need that.) After doing this, the xinetd daemon will need to be restarted (it handles starting and stopping these services when they are required). You'll also need to add a line like the following to your /etc/hosts.allow file: ALL : 192.168.0. This allows access to these services to boxes on the 192.168.0.X network. You then configure the Winboxes' mail clients by setting up accounts that point to anne-linux's IP address for both SMTP sending and POP3 (or IMAP) retrieval, with the email addresses of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you can use the FQDN for anne-linux if you wish, but for this sort of local delivery arrangement it's not needed). These accounts on the Windows MUAs are in addition to the existing ones, not in place of them, to be clear. If I've left anything out, someone will mention it; if you have questions (or concerns I haven't addressed), let us know. This is quite doable. HTH! -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday July 16 2003 01:20 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: I'm reminded of a story from a friend of mine. Had a HDD overheat. Couldn't read it. Stuck it in the freezer overnight. And then it would work for about 30 minutes. Stick it back in the freezer... read off more data. About 5 or 6 cycles of this were needed before they could get all the data off of it, and then trash it. (Why I like seagates new drives they run super cool.) James hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC's
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 11:12, James Sparenberg wrote: ... it's pretty even. (anyone need a collection of bad netgear and linksys nics?) James Just hang 'em on the christmas tree in about five months :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] choosing a firewall distro
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 20:00, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: IPCop is a fork of SmoothWall .99. Either one is good. However IPCop uses a 2.4.20 kernel and smoothwall still uses a 2.2 kernel. 2.4.21 to be correct. http://www.smoothwall.org/beta/releases/orient.html David. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Scrolling in Evolution and Galeon
Hello all, I posted this to the newbie list but didn't get a repsonse. I was hoping someone here could help me. Does anyone know how to change the scroll steps in Evolution and Galeon? When I use my scroll mouse each click scrolls half a page. I want it a little smoother than that. What do I need to do to change it? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mistaking knowledge for noise is just as costly as mistaking sarcasm for intelligence. Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) Maxims for Revolutionists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 05:34 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?) Tom, I don't know either - I got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]# hddtemp /dev/hda Maxtor 6Y080L0 /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 34°C Hmm. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to the latest squid-2.5 proxy server from cooker. However I get the following error [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE2-2mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ### [100%] 1:squid ### [100%] [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb) is needed by squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk Would someone please give me a few pointers on how to troubleshoot this? Regards, Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday July 16 2003 05:58 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?) Tom, I don't know either - I got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]# hddtemp /dev/hda Maxtor 6Y080L0 /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 34°C Hmm. Interesting that your temp on the same drive is half what mine reports. H ;) FWIW, I've got good case cooling, a fan on my HDD's to boot -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Internal mail
i set up a receiving account in settingsconfigure kmailnetwork thse are my details: name:bascule-local location:/var/spool/mail/bascule locking method:none destination folder:system obviously i made the 'system' folder! i didn't alter anything about sending mail is this useful? bascule On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 1:39 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Root is sending me messages that end up in /var/spool/mail/anne. I would like to set up KMail to bring these messages into a new folder, but don't know how to set up internal mail accounts. Is it possible without using extra services? What do I need to do? What should I read? If I can sort this out I would like to extend to internal mail across our mixed lan. Anne -- Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ... for no good reason that is readily apparent (at least to me) ... :) I'm trying to upgrade to the latest squid-2.5 proxy server from cooker. Onto a system running which release? I take it that it's not Cooker that you're running on this box; this sort of mixing is prone to these sorts of difficulties, you know ... if the box /is/ running Cooker, then using urpmi to install rather than rpm should sort out the dependencies nicely. Cooker is really a separate distro unto itself, and the further you get from the date of the prior official release, the more differences you'll inevitably encounter between the two of them (and the more problems that mixing RPMs from both onto one system will generate for you). However I get the following error [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE2-2mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ### [100%] 1:squid ### [100%] [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb) is needed by squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk Would someone please give me a few pointers on how to troubleshoot this? This newer version of Squid needs a Perl module that the earlier one did not, and that you don't already have. If you're familiar with downloading and installing Perl modules with the CPAN system, you might be able to get this module (and possibly others that this Squid version may also require) that way, and thereby incorporate it/them into your current local Perl installation ... if not, it is entirely possible that trying to get it from Cooker will require a wholesale updating of your Perl susbsystem (if Cooker is using a newer Perl version than your current release does), and $DEITY knows what else may need to be upgraded along with it; someone who runs Cooker can address that aspect better than I can, once we know what Mandrake release /you/ have running. You might want to seriously consider whether or not the Cooker version provides something that the other one does not, and whether or not that functionality is something you just cannot live without. If you're just aiming to get the latest solely because it's the latest available, it's very likely not worth the bother. Any security vulnerabilities that are found to be in the release version of an app will generally be quickly addressed by Vincent and his team, and an update issued, which is often a backport of a fix that the app's authors will have included only in their latest release, but which the Mandrake Security Team has then adapted to the version of the app that was included with the distro. Ergo, you can't go by version numbers alone in all cases to determine whether the fix you want to get has been included, if that fix is your sole reason to upgrade. HTH! -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC's
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 15:21, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 11:12, James Sparenberg wrote: ... it's pretty even. (anyone need a collection of bad netgear and linksys nics?) James Just hang 'em on the christmas tree in about five months :-) Nah I'm going to give em as presents to windows users. *grin* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] .m3u files in konqueror
i wish to choose which application will play the following type of links in konqueror: http://192.168.0.4/music/4AD/All Virgos Are Mad/All Virgos Are Mad - 05 - Lisa Germano - Geek The Girl.m3u?play=1 no matter what i do xmms keeps on playing it, i have removed xmms from all the file associations in the configkdecomponentsfile associations and restarted and still xmms launches when i click on a link like the above is there somewhere esle to configure file associations feo web browsing? bascule -- I AM DEATH, NOT TAXES. *I* TURN UP ONLY ONCE. (Feet of Clay) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:34, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday July 16 2003 01:20 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: I'm reminded of a story from a friend of mine. Had a HDD overheat. Couldn't read it. Stuck it in the freezer overnight. And then it would work for about 30 minutes. Stick it back in the freezer... read off more data. About 5 or 6 cycles of this were needed before they could get all the data off of it, and then trash it. (Why I like seagates new drives they run super cool.) James hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?) First off I'm willing to bet that hda is above (physically) hdb. Heat rises so ... mine IC35L080AVVA07-0 /dev/hda: IC35L080AVVA07-0: 42°C ST380021A /dev/hdc: ST380021A: 50°C hdc is over hda. hda is fujitsu the hdc is seagate. No air in the house and 2 fans in the box. One on the cpu and one on the hda drive. There is a 3rd drive in the box (Maxtor) but it doesn't have temp sensors. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Scrolling in Evolution and Galeon
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 15:34, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Hello all, I posted this to the newbie list but didn't get a repsonse. I was hoping someone here could help me. Does anyone know how to change the scroll steps in Evolution and Galeon? When I use my scroll mouse each click scrolls half a page. I want it a little smoother than that. What do I need to do to change it? Not sure... but doesn't gnome-control-center handle this (I don't have a wheel mouse here... can't verify.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] .m3u files in konqueror
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 18:13, bascule wrote: i wish to choose which application will play the following type of links in konqueror: http://192.168.0.4/music/4AD/All Virgos Are Mad/All Virgos Are Mad - 05 - Lisa Germano - Geek The Girl.m3u?play=1 no matter what i do xmms keeps on playing it, i have removed xmms from all the file associations in the configkdecomponentsfile associations and restarted and still xmms launches when i click on a link like the above is there somewhere esle to configure file associations feo web browsing? bascule Bascule, Assuming that you are using konqueror not Mozilla you may need to go into xmms and remove the system file assoc with m3u from xmms file associations. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Scrolling in Evolution and Galeon
James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 15:34, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Hello all, I posted this to the newbie list but didn't get a repsonse. I was hoping someone here could help me. Does anyone know how to change the scroll steps in Evolution and Galeon? When I use my scroll mouse each click scrolls half a page. I want it a little smoother than that. What do I need to do to change it? Not sure... but doesn't gnome-control-center handle this (I don't have a wheel mouse here... can't verify.) James I couldn't find anything in gnome-control-center to handle mousewheel actions. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mistaking knowledge for noise is just as costly as mistaking sarcasm for intelligence. Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) Maxims for Revolutionists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] .m3u files in konqueror
james, i can't find an xmms file association setting in xmms' preferences, i have removed all references to xmms in the kde file associations dialogue bascule On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 2:29 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 18:13, bascule wrote: i wish to choose which application will play the following type of links in konqueror: http://192.168.0.4/music/4AD/All Virgos Are Mad/All Virgos Are Mad - 05 - Lisa Germano - Geek The Girl.m3u?play=1 no matter what i do xmms keeps on playing it, i have removed xmms from all the file associations in the configkdecomponentsfile associations and restarted and still xmms launches when i click on a link like the above is there somewhere esle to configure file associations feo web browsing? bascule Bascule, Assuming that you are using konqueror not Mozilla you may need to go into xmms and remove the system file assoc with m3u from xmms file associations. James -- 'Things either exist or they don't,' said Jeremy. 'I am very clear about that. I have medicine.' (The Thief of Time) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Scrolling in Evolution and Galeon
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 18:31, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 15:34, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Hello all, I posted this to the newbie list but didn't get a repsonse. I was hoping someone here could help me. Does anyone know how to change the scroll steps in Evolution and Galeon? When I use my scroll mouse each click scrolls half a page. I want it a little smoother than that. What do I need to do to change it? Not sure... but doesn't gnome-control-center handle this (I don't have a wheel mouse here... can't verify.) James I couldn't find anything in gnome-control-center to handle mousewheel actions. g let me ask around... thought I had a quick fix here. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Scrolling in Evolution and Galeon
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 15:34, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Hello all, I posted this to the newbie list but didn't get a repsonse. I was hoping someone here could help me. Does anyone know how to change the scroll steps in Evolution and Galeon? When I use my scroll mouse each click scrolls half a page. I want it a little smoother than that. What do I need to do to change it? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know this doesn't help much, but I had the same problem with my Logitech Mouseman plugged in as USB. When I switched to a cordless Mouseman Optical as PS/2 the scrolling was significantly more smooth. I can only assume that the different driver made the difference in scrolling, but I couldn't find a setting to control it. Try a different mouse? -- Brian Keefer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] .m3u files in konqueror
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 18:39, bascule wrote: james, i can't find an xmms file association setting in xmms' preferences, i have removed all references to xmms in the kde file associations dialogue bascule Bascule, what happens if you cd into the .xmms file for the user. I have a file in there called xmms.m3u and it contains the url of the last m3u file I listened to. Could it be a case of I did it once and I'm going to keep doing it till you tell me something different? I moved mine to the side and it had no affect as far as the perf of xmms is concerned. If this site/song is in this file move it aside (like to old or something) and see what happens. James On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 2:29 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 18:13, bascule wrote: i wish to choose which application will play the following type of links in konqueror: http://192.168.0.4/music/4AD/All Virgos Are Mad/All Virgos Are Mad - 05 - Lisa Germano - Geek The Girl.m3u?play=1 no matter what i do xmms keeps on playing it, i have removed xmms from all the file associations in the configkdecomponentsfile associations and restarted and still xmms launches when i click on a link like the above is there somewhere esle to configure file associations feo web browsing? bascule Bascule, Assuming that you are using konqueror not Mozilla you may need to go into xmms and remove the system file assoc with m3u from xmms file associations. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 09:04 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. If you are referring to the old bushing fans, there is no way they are more reliable. They simply do not last. A sealed bearing will last for years and years. A bushing fan might last 3, but usually 18-24 months is all they can handle. I'm currently running some sealed bearing fans that are actually much quieter than the old bearingless fans by a factor of 3. This is not the same thing. This is new bearingless technology. It utilizes something called a magnetic tip. My understanding is that the fan blade is suspended by a magnetic field. Really. Interesting. Must be one heck of a magnet to handle the torque and thrust of the fan eh? In addition to being super quiet, it of course means their reliability is much higher. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 08:38 am, diego wrote: Which mark and model? I'm really concerned about noise and temp... Well first I have to thank you! I went to look and realized that my fan filter was plugged with dust! I don't have any special brands, I just looked for ball bearing muffin fans. Mine are CE supers. I'm running a XP 1800+ (1500MHz) downclocked to 1100MHz in summer (40ºC in the room!). To me it's quite acceptable cpu temp go up to 60ºC at full load with a noise less than 40dB I have never bothered to find linux drivers to set up the pieces to monitor mine real time. Maybe someday. I am sure it is running cooler though thanks t o you. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 10:53 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. If you are referring to the old bushing fans, there is no way they are more reliable. They simply do not last. A sealed bearing will last for years and years. A bushing fan might last 3, but usually 18-24 months is all they can handle. I'm currently running some sealed bearing fans that are actually much quieter than the old bearingless fans by a factor of 3. Lorne, I think by bearingless they actually do mean sealed bearing. It's more a case of marketing taking a technical term and misusing it to the point of extreme obfuscation of term (ie Trusted Computing by M$) rather than what it actually does mean. But you are right the sealed bearing fans last seemingly forever. Don't know how long because the rest of the box gets so far out of date I never use the comp that long. (I've got one on a 233mhz pI that is 9 years old). I'll bet you are right. This reminds me of something someone sent to me yesterday. Microsoft is crying foul. They are complaining that Linux isn't playing fair. ROFTLMAO You have GOT to read this! Sorry for being off topic, but ... http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030714/5320229s.htm James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: /etc/pluggerrc WAS: Re: [expert] .m3u files in konqueror
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 19:57, bascule wrote: ok i've tracked it down, i have something called 'plugger' installed, with this xmms launches on the urls wihtout i get a 'choose application' dialogue, it seems that kde file associations don't apply to web browsing, there is an /etc/pluggerrc file that has a refernce to x-mpegurl and similar and names xmms, replacing the xmms entry with gmplayer results in that app playing the link - hooray! but instead of gmplayer launching and playing the link while the original web page with the link remains in view the browser changes as if to load a new page but then stays gray and blank, perhaps there is a syntax to the /etc/pluggerrc file that someone can help me out with? bascule That explains one thing why I didn't see it. When I installed mplayer it replaces mozplugger... So I don't have that file.. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 19:57, Lorne wrote: On Wednesday 16 July 2003 09:04 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. If you are referring to the old bushing fans, there is no way they are more reliable. They simply do not last. A sealed bearing will last for years and years. A bushing fan might last 3, but usually 18-24 months is all they can handle. I'm currently running some sealed bearing fans that are actually much quieter than the old bearingless fans by a factor of 3. This is not the same thing. This is new bearingless technology. It utilizes something called a magnetic tip. My understanding is that the fan blade is suspended by a magnetic field. Really. Interesting. Must be one heck of a magnet to handle the torque and thrust of the fan eh? Just a thought here. But if you think about it torque and thrust for the spinning fan (assuming a constant speed) will be almost 0. If of course it is properly balanced. In such a case it will operate just like a gyro. (All the weight of the blades on the ends etc.) As long as it is constantly in a single plane of operation torque and thrust are negligible. Also like a gyro it would heavily resist any attempt to move it off of it's plane of operation. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mounting drives
We have this little LAN at home and I am wondering how best to mount personal and shared drives. I have been doing this in fstab with the auto switch, but if I check drive space with df, I find that some drives are not accessable as they are on my wife's side of the machine. So I am thinking about making them noauto in fstab, and mounting them in the appropriate .bashrc. Thoughts? -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC's
Perhaps they will make a good mobile if you combine them with outdated memory chips and AOL CD's. ;-) For speed. The pro100 edged out the 3c905 (especially when using ... it's pretty even. (anyone need a collection of bad netgear and linksys nics?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
