Re: [Freedos-devel] How to upload a new package to ibiblio.org?
I'll email you off-list with another address you can use. On 3/10/07, Robert Riebisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Hall wrote: You can email the to me, and I can help upload it for you. Only a few I already mailed two zipped files to you, but got back: Illegal attachment. Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Fwd: Virus in the FreeDOS distributive on the ibiblio.
Hi guys. I don't have an antivirus program to double-check this with. So I'm putting out a call to the developers to help verify this virus report. Does anyone else find this virus with your AV software? Or is this another false-positive? -jh On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 20:26 +0300, Сергей wrote: Hello! I download this: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/fdfullcd.7z, unpack it, and unpack the ISO file (with the 7-Zip archiver), and my antivirus (Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic) has detected infected by virus DOS/Barrotes.1194 two files in the distributive: fdfullcd\freedos\packages\driver\crynwrx.zip/drivers\net\crynwr\trace.com and fdfullcd\fdos\drivers\net\crynwr\trace.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Insight debugger 1.20
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 13:07 +0100, Robert Riebisch wrote: Jim Hall wrote: Hi Oleg. I can put this on ibiblio for you, if you like. Email me off-list, and we'll figure out how you can get it to me. Oleg already agreed, that I give Insight a new home at http://www.bttr-software.de/insight/ I mailed him off the list on Monday, but got no response so far, if the new page is OK for him. Nevertheless you're welcome to mirror insig120.zip at ibiblio. :-) Can you please update http://www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/freedos-lsm.cgi?q=fa=devel/insight.lsm too? Thanks in advance! No problem! I mirrored the latest release to ibiblio, but haven't updated the LSM on the web site because there wasn't an LSM provided in the zip archive. Can you or Oleg email a new LSM to me? -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Insight debugger 1.20
Hi Oleg. I can put this on ibiblio for you, if you like. Email me off-list, and we'll figure out how you can get it to me. On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 15:14 +0300, Oleg O.Chukaev wrote: Insight debugger 1.20 is ready for release. Major changes: English documentation. Some bugs fixed. Short help. NASM sources. Saving/restoring VGA registers and font(may not work properly with some emulators). HCL BA wrote: 2. the data displayed in the bottom panel expands if screen size is greater than 25 lines I want a few more lines for the data dump panel if I start Insight from screen set to 28/50 lines It is possible to make such dump panel, but I think that using mode 80x25 w/ _full_ VGA state saving/restoring is better. 3. displays properly as screen other than 80x25 The display messed up if there is 100 columns in a line This feature requires very much changes in the code :-( I also found uneasy to use the TSR feature, maybe I do not understand the manual. Please, describe in details your problems. Will the features in grey color be available, such as configuration, animation? Perhaps... I have no my own Internet site. Can I send archive (~240K) with new version of Insight to anybody by E-mail for further distribution? Oleg O. Chukaev - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] (OT) trying to reach Eric
Eric: I cannot email you anymore. My emails bounce with a greylist error. Email me off-list to tell me how I can reach you. -jh - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Edlin 2.9A is on SourceForge!
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 17:16 -0500, Gregory Pietsch wrote: Although it's personally been a difficult month for me, I have triumphed once again with a new version of FreeDOS Edlin, the one project without which the entire FreeDOS project would be plunged into darkness. Version 2.9A reflects everything that I have received as improvements since the 2.9 release, including a new translation of the msgs.h file into Polish. I also threw in a kit2msgs filter program to make things easier for the i18n crowd. -- Gregory Pietsch What's the URL? -jh - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Edlin 2.9A is on SourceForge!
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 16:40 -0500, Gregory Pietsch wrote: Jim Hall wrote: On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 17:16 -0500, Gregory Pietsch wrote: Although it's personally been a difficult month for me, I have triumphed once again with a new version of FreeDOS Edlin, the one project without which the entire FreeDOS project would be plunged into darkness. Version 2.9A reflects everything that I have received as improvements since the 2.9 release, including a new translation of the msgs.h file into Polish. I also threw in a kit2msgs filter program to make things easier for the i18n crowd. -- Gregory Pietsch What's the URL? http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos-edlin/ -jh Thanks, man! I've mirrored this on ibiblio, and posted a news item on the www.freedos.org web site (should show up in about an hour.) -jh - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Blocek v1.1
Would you mind renaming future releases to indicate the version as part of the filename? This makes it easier for users to report bugs, etc. If they report I downloaded blocek.rar and it doesn't do that's a lot LESS helpful than I downloaded blocek11.rar and it doesn't do . Also, I don't understand what wokna32 is supposed to indicate as the source archive name. Is this a 32bit-only application? -jh On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 21:30 +0100, Ladislav Lacina wrote: Hi! URL is the same like in previous versions: binary: http://www.laaca.borec.cz/soubory/blocek.rar or http://www.laaca-mirror.ic.cz/blocek.rar source: http://www.laaca.borec.cz/soubory/wokna32.rar or http://www.laaca-mirror.ic.cz/wokna32.rar Původní zpráva Od: Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Předmět: Re: [Freedos-devel] Blocek v1.1 Datum: 19.11.2006 16:09:57 On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 22:54 +0100, Ladislav Lacina wrote: Bloček v1.1 is out. It has new important features like word wrapping or basic conversions to/from unicode format. Now is Bloček much more usable than in previous versions. However I have a little different problem. I need help with english texts. I know that they are terrible - can someone look at it? (the czech and russian texts are (should be) OK :) What is the URL for version 1.1, exe and src? -jh - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] 4DOS released as open source software
If you are like me, you have used (or are using) the 4DOS command shell. 4DOS was my favorite DOS app. Back in the day, my DOS development system was guaranteed to have at least one C compiler, a cool editor for writing code, and a copy of 4DOS to make the command line easier to use. I still run a copy of 4DOS on my FreeDOS system. Some of you have asked about 4DOS, and Rex Conn (JP Software, creator of 4DOS) had previously agreed to release 4DOS 7.50 as unsupported freeware in August 2004. Recently, I approached Rex to ask if he would release 4DOS under an open source license. Rex agreed! On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, Rex Conn wrote: Hi Jim: [...] I'm enclosing a zip of the 4DOS source as of version 7.50 (the final version). I've removed the non-DOS code from the source, though I haven't tried compiling it (I don't have the MSVC 1.51 compiler anymore, nor the MASM assembler). The only restrictions I'd put on the source code is that it not be used for an OS other than FreeDOS or any commercial products without my permission. Rex Conn JP Software The source to 4DOS (less a few non-DOS things) is now available from ibiblio, distributed under a modified MIT license (the additions are mentioned in Rex's email, above.) See the readme.txt in the zip file for the license terms, also in each *.c, *.h, and *.asm source file. This will require some work to compile, especially if you want to use OpenWatcom and NASM instead of the original MSVC and MASM. However, since the source is now available for FreeDOS developers, feel free to make the changes necessary to get it to compile. The new zip file archive is labeled 7.50.1 to distinguish itself from the previous 7.50 release. Find it at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/4dos/7.50.1/4dos7501.zip I'm really glad that Rex was able to release 4DOS as open source software. This is a big step. HUGE THANKS to Rex! :-) -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] DEBUG V99b
I sent the following to Japheth about a week ago: Have you contacted Paul Vojta vojta/@/math.berkeley.edu about your improvements to DEBUG? Paul does respond to email (I emailed him about a week ago, about something else) and I would prefer that Paul be kept in the loop on changes to a program where he is still listed as maintainer. Since Paul isn't MIA, I'd prefer to not mark Japheth's DEBUG as the official FreeDOS DEBUG on the software list /without input from Paul/. I cc'd Paul on that email, but as of today I haven't heard back from either of them. Until I hear back, Japheth's version is still unofficial. -jh Robert Riebisch wrote: Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Does this mean, that 99B replaced by newer version (latest 99G) or there is Yes. see http://www.japheth.de/dwnload4.html something wrong? No. Robert Riebisch - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Update proposal
Using 2-digit subversions (1.01) looks too similar to 1.0.1 kind of naming. I'd rather we reserve those numbers for bug-fix releases that don't add any new functionality. For standard distributions, I prefer we use the simpler 1-digit subversions. In my mind, if we make 9 small updates after 1.0, the 10th update really should get labelled 2.0. Maybe the functionality in that 2.0 isn't very major from the previous releases, but it's still an increase in functionality over 1.0. -jh Aitor Santamaría wrote: May I suggest two decimal cyphers? (1.01, 1.02, 1.03... 1.99) 9 small updates to FreeDOS 1.0 may not make FreeDOS 2.0. Aitor 2006/10/29, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: E! I'd rather not go back to beta9 SP2 etc naming scheme. The next FreeDOS should _not_ be a FreeDOS 1.0 SP1. The next FreeDOS is indeed an incremental improvement with no major changes (i.e. updated packages, etc) then FreeDOS 1.1 would be acceptable. A larger jump in functionality could be FreeDOS 1.5 .. and if the changes are big enough, FreeDOS 2.0. Let's avoid 1.0.1 kind of naming unless it's a bug-fix release right after the main release of the distro. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Update proposal
Yes, 1.3.2 makes perfect sense, I think. First, 1.3 indicates the third minor release after 1.0. Now let's say there was a really bad bug discovered in FreeCOM 0.99B in that distro, found just after going live with 1.3, so we'd make a bug-fix distro right away as 1.3.1 that included FreeCOM 0.99C. But oh no! We then find that a bug in Kernel Build 3092 was the _real_ cause of that problem, and a different bug in FreeCOM was masking it. So then we'd release a second bug-fix distro, labelled 1.3.2 that included FreeCOM 0.99C and Kernel Build 3093. -jh Aitor Santamaría wrote: It looks good, but I just wonder how to name the second bug-fix release after the third release after FreeDOS 1.0, in that case you are forced to something like 1.3.2... Aitor 2006/11/2, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Using 2-digit subversions (1.01) looks too similar to 1.0.1 kind of naming. I'd rather we reserve those numbers for bug-fix releases that don't add any new functionality. For standard distributions, I prefer we use the simpler 1-digit subversions. In my mind, if we make 9 small updates after 1.0, the 10th update really should get labelled 2.0. Maybe the functionality in that 2.0 isn't very major from the previous releases, but it's still an increase in functionality over 1.0. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS bugzilla update
Guys, I fixed the problem with the FreeDOS Bugzilla where you were forced to constantly login to make any updates. Silly me, when we moved the www.freedos.org site to freedos.sourceforge.net, I also changed the Bugzilla entry page (http://www.freedos.org/freedos/bugs/) to use http://www.freedos.org/bugzilla/cgi-bin/index.cgi But our Bugzilla install wanted to use .sourceforge.netas the cookie domain. So anytime you logged in, your Bugzilla cookie was only good for freedos.sourceforge.net - not www.freedos.org. I've updated the Bugzilla cookie domain to use .freedos.org and now things are working smoothly. Sorry this took so long for me to figure out - I could swear that I looked at the cookie domain before now. Ah well. Next up: I'm going to see if I can do something about out-bound email. The SF admins gave me a hint, so I need to write some supporting programs/scripts to make an email hack. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Update proposal
E! I'd rather not go back to beta9 SP2 etc naming scheme. The next FreeDOS should _not_ be a FreeDOS 1.0 SP1. The next FreeDOS is indeed an incremental improvement with no major changes (i.e. updated packages, etc) then FreeDOS 1.1 would be acceptable. A larger jump in functionality could be FreeDOS 1.5 .. and if the changes are big enough, FreeDOS 2.0. Let's avoid 1.0.1 kind of naming unless it's a bug-fix release right after the main release of the distro. -jh Tony wrote: Well, to be like our more refined OS counterpart (MacOS), there was typically a 3-6 month update cycle (the longest I remember was 9 months)...hence the 7.5, 7.5.1, 7.5.2, 7.5.3, etc Or, we could go the Microsoft route...issue a big patch file that updates and fixes based using a patch program (I remember PATCH.EXE being included at one time with DOS, perhaps that was only a Tandy thing, go figure)...thereby offering existing users a download of diffs (so to speak) that PATCH runs against the affected files thereby bringing them to current status... So in effect, FreeDOS 1.0 Build SP1, etc, etcand so forth Oh, another thing I thought about, did you ever notice the time on DOS files (specifically from Microsoft)? The time after version 4.0 (if I remember correctly) always reflected the DOS version. When I was younger, I wondered what idiot was up at 5:00am compiling DOS 5.0 and how he managed to compile all those files in 60 secs. (Thank God for TOUCH.COM)... - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS Edlin 2.9 on SourceForge!
Gregory Pietsch wrote: There's a new version of FreeDOS Edlin, and it's on SourceForge! I've been trying to get to Jim Hall for days to mirror this information on FreeDOS's homepage, but I haven't been able to reach him. Gregory Pietsch Hi. I posted this earlier today. (2006-10-18 14:38) http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ I'm _really_ swamped at work these days. I'm getting a new department assigned under me. So I've been out of touch on the FreeDOS side for a little while. I'm hoping that after things settle down, I'll be much more active on FreeDOS. Sorry for the delay. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS web site problems
In case you haven't noticed, we seem to be having a problem with www.freedos.org. This is hosted at SourceForge, so I'm in the process of opening a ticket with them. The site at freedos.sourceforge.net is working fine though, so please use that until www.freedos.org is working. Thanks, -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS web site problems
Jim Hall wrote: In case you haven't noticed, we seem to be having a problem with www.freedos.org. This is hosted at SourceForge, so I'm in the process of opening a ticket with them. The site at freedos.sourceforge.net is working fine though, so please use that until www.freedos.org is working. I don't want to spam, so this will be my last update until it's fixed: At least two other sites have reported a similar VHOST outage to SF, so this isn't something specific to us. I also entered my ticket to the SF support, and referenced one of the other tickets already opened. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Turbo C on FreeDOS
Frederic Logghe wrote: Since several years, I'm using Turbo C on MS-DOS. Last week, my PC crashed and I'm now planning to use FreeDOS. I just wonder if anyone has positive experiences running Turbo C on FreeDOS? Yup, I used to use TC1.01 on FreeDOS, ran completely fine. Then I located my old copy of BC3.1, and used that instead (more features.) But I've since switched to OpenWatcom. Since OW is still developed/supported, I recommend you use that instead. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Update on bugzilla
Just wanted to send an update on the FreeDOS bugzilla, for those of you who use it. You're probably already aware of the problem of sending email. That's why I put the warning in the big yellow box at http://www.freedos.org/freedos/bugs/. One of the admins of SourceForge gave me a hint that may work to get outbound email working, but it's sort of a hack and may break if SF changes their security model in future. Basically, it involves queueing the outbound email into a set of files, and having a cron job send them at regular intervals. It looks like it will work, but it's a matter of writing some stuff to support it. Also, I need to do an upgrade to our bugzilla. I'm hoping this will also fix the multiple logins issue that several people have complained about. (As best as I can guess, this started happening about 2-3 months ago? I know I didn't change anything on bugzilla after we put it into production, so I think an SF patch broke one of our libs.) I'm about to leave on a business trip for the rest of the week. When I get back from that, I have a few days back home, then I'm off to another business trip for another week. So I don't know that I'll be able to apply an upgrade or get any bugzilla mail fixes working for a few weeks yet. Actually, I've been thinking it might be easier/better to try to move our FreeDOS bug data into the SF Tracker system. Then FreeDOS developers (me) don't need to spend their time updating software on the web site, and can spend more time writing FreeDOS code. I already have a request open with the SF guys, requesting an import of our data. But they don't have a method to import bugzilla data into the SF Tracker, so they would need to write a program to do it. They keep telling me they're trying to find time to work on it, but it's been a while, so I don't know when we'll have such a thing. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Inst. 1.0
Serghey Suvorov wrote: Hi Jim, to your notice: the full variant (without wattcp) of 1.0 can be installed in MS VirtPC. The xBase presence is agreeable especially . There are little comings which take an interest in this best language. Best regards, Serghey Thanks for the feedback! I'll fwd this to the FreeDOS developers, too. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [anounce] defrag 1.2
Imre Leber wrote: -Original Message- From: Florian Xaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2006 09:45 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] [anounce] defrag 1.2 Hi, I tried Full Optimization and Unfragment Files only. On my download area you can find a version that should work: http://users.telenet.be/imre/FreeDOS/DFRAG121.ZIP Imre Imre: Is DFRAG121.ZIP an official 1.2.1 release, something that I should mirror on ibiblio? Or is this just an interim release, sort of try this and see if this fixes your problem, and if it does I'll make it a full release kind of thing? -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [anounce] defrag 1.2
Imre: Is DFRAG121.ZIP an official 1.2.1 release, something that I should mirror on ibiblio? Or is this just an interim release, sort of try this and see if this fixes your problem, and if it does I'll make it a full release kind of thing? Actually I was going to announce it tomorrow, if Xavier didn't mail me back that it for some reason doesn't work. But I guess I could make it an official release: Hi, I am hereby releasing a new version of defrag, version 1.2.1. This is a minor release that fixes a bug in FAT32 handling. You can find it at: http://users.telenet.be/imre/FreeDOS/DFRAG121.ZIP Imre Okay, thanks. I've mirrored this on ibiblio, and updated the defrag 1.2 news item (the second news item on the www.freedos.org site) with defrag 1.2.1. Should get updated in about an hour. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS web site
We're still getting hit pretty hard on the web site, although traffic seems to be dropping. We're down to about 50MB/hour. To help bandwidth issues, I've updated the stylesheets to be very light on the images - the FreeDOS fish logo and the (mandatory) SF.net logo button remain, but other images are gone. I'll put the site back in a few days. Although, I kind of like the cleaner look ... If you're curious about web site stats, visit here: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=5109ugn=freedosmode=weektype=prweb As soon as word started to spread about 1.0, we were flooded with hits on the web site. 1.8GB for 4 Sept, and 1.6GB for 5 Sept. After that, it's tailing off. Yesterday (6 Sept) was only 845MB. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Imre Leber wrote: Actually i am kind of convinced that in spite of everything going for reactos, the only thing truely missing from that project is Jim Hall. That's probably the reason why it doesn't seem to be moving anywhere fast. Imre ?? -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
JH ?? Imre mean, that FreeDOS powered by your leadership, :) and this is missing in ReactOS. :-) -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Blair Campbell wrote: Here I am, I've spent about 5 hours slowly downloading the full version, getting just a few K per second, and right before it gets done, you go and replace it. I'm sorry, but I made it quite clear in the announcemet that the full ISOs were NOT ready yet. I would have annouced it if they were. That is your problem for taking the risk and knowing that they ISOs already on ibiblio could not quite be ready. Hi everyone. I didn't realize the full ISOs weren't ready for distribution yet. The note in the announcement read Shortly, the larger and more featureful ISOs will also be uploaded. And since the ISOs were uploaded by the time I read the announcement, I assumed that shortly had already happened. My bad. Anyway, I've removed the fdfullws and fdfullcd from '1.0' on ibiblio (I put them in '1.0-Testing'). -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news
Just in case anyone is interested in the press coverage this is getting: Heise Online was the first to post an article about us: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/77674 I also sent out something of a press announcement to a variety of news outlets, and I've contacted Slashdot/Newsforge for a followup article from the one they did about two months ago. But it seems someone else already submitted something to Slashdot, since they have an article about us now: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/04/2021234 See also coverage on OSNews (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15723) and Techworld (http://www.techworld.com/networking/news/index.cfm?newsID=6783pagtype=samechan). -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Blair Campbell wrote: Hey folks. If you check out the website, you may be in for a surprise. w00t1 This is a very important day. I want to send out my thanks to everyone who has worked on the FreeDOS Project, to help bring us to the 1.0 release. That includes both current members and past members. There are too many of you to name, SO I CAN'T NAME EVERYONE, but to call attention to just a few of you: Pat Villani: wrote our first kernel Tim Norman: wrote our first command.com Blair Campell Jeremy Davis: longtime kernel maintainer Tom Ehlert Alain Arkady Bart Oldeman: big-time kernel maintainer Russ Nelson Eric Auer Aitor Joe Cosentino Jim Tabor: forklifted our kernel to support network redirection John Price: longtime kernel FreeCOM maintainer Steffen Kaiser: longtime FreeCOM maintainer Brian Florian Morgan 'Hannibal' Toal: for keeping FreeDOS going when I took time off Shane Imre Mike Devore: for all your contributions, and for making me laugh Paul Raster Jack Gregory Pietsch ..and all the rest of you. If I missed you in the list, it's just because there are too many of you to call out individually. This release would not have happened if it were not for the efforts of LOTS of contributors who believed in a little free software project that was quietly announced to the world in 1994. We've come a long way. I love the FreeDOS that we have today. For me, it was definitely worth the wait. And to celebrate, huge party! Oh, and I'll make the 1.0 updates to the rest of the site later this morning... :-) -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
FYI: I have updated the FreeDOS web site with the 1.0 announcement. A few pages have changed: - the front page has been rearranged, and should now be friendlier to new users. Let me know if the navigation is confusing; I tried to make it so new users would know where to go, but still useful to developers. We expect to get a lot of hits from places like Slashdot .. if you aren't familiar with what FreeDOS is, then the front page needs to make that very clear to you. I'm very open to suggestions, if anyone has ideas for how I can improve the content and/or navigation. Email me off-list. - the download page (http://www.freedos.org/freedos/files/) has been updated with new content. I want to make it clear to new users that they are downloading an operating system, which is a big deal. I'm trying to avoid someone running the install program just to see what it does and end up wiping out their hard drive. You'll also notice the download page doesn't list any mirrors for the FreeDOS 1.0 distribution. Actually, there are several mirrors out there, but I want to make sure they are up-to-date with the 1.0 before I list them (the version of 1.0 they have may be a pre-release.) I dropped a readme.txt file on ibiblio, so as soon as I see that show up on each mirror, I'll add them. Also of interest: the DOS history timeline (http://www.freedos.org/freedos/news/press/doshist.txt) has been updated. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] MOVE 3.3A
Blair Campbell wrote: Can someone please send this to me or tell me where this is uploaded (if it is uploaded) within the next hour or I won't have time to include it in 1.0. I asked Diego to email it to me off-list, but I haven't seen it yet. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] MOVE 3.3A
I asked Diego to email it to me off-list, but I haven't seen it yet. -jh I sent to you source and binaries yesterday. Ah, my freedos.org mailbox sometimes rejects large attachments. I'll email you again off-list with an email address you can use to send it to me. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] MOVE 3.3A
Move 3.3a source and binaries are now available on ibiblio (thanks Diego!) -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [anounce] defrag 1.2
Imre Leber wrote: Hi, I am hereby releasing a new version of defrag, defrag version 1.2. This solves the bug found by Fritz Mueller, regarding disk corruption in the root directory. Version 1.1 should hereby no longer be used, as it corrupts disk data. You can find it at: http://users.telenet.be/imre/FreeDOS/DEFRAG12.ZIP I would like to thank Fritz Mueller for reporting this. Imre I mirrored this new version right away on ibiblio - since version 1.1 causes corruption, I also set defrag11.zip on ibiblio as unreadable (unix mode 000). So it's still there for archive purposes, but no one can download it. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] New MOVE release
Diego Rodriguez wrote: Hi! I want to announce that there is a new version of MOVE (3.3a) that fixes the following problems: * FreeDOS truename function doesn't remove trailing backslashes. * FreeDOS cannot set attributes of a directory without clearing the directory bit. Previous MOVE version (3.3) doesn't work fine under FreeDOS due to the above issues. I'm looking for testers and somebody that wants to upload it to ibiblio. Regards. Diego. Hi Diego. Email it to me off-list and I'll put it on ibiblio. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] announce: mem 1.11 - prettier output, NLS, NOEMS
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 27-Авг-2006 17:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: I do have latest (second) edition of mem110.zip with conversion LF to CRLF (latest file marked 2006/08/25). If you wish, I may resend it to you. JH Email it to me off-list. I'll reply to you (off-list) with my work JH (UofM) email address to use. My freedos.org account may fill up if you JH try to send it there. Not (yet) receive from you letters from UofM email address. Anyway, I found, that Eric's http://www.freedos.org/mem/mem110.zip is already identical to mine. Your email arrived right after I signed off last night (08/27/2006 06:11 PM), so I hadn't replied to it yet. Since it's the same as what's on freedos.org, then I guess it's solved now anyway. Thanks. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] announce: mem 1.11 - prettier output, NLS, NOEMS
Eric Auer wrote: Hi all, uploaded to http://www.freedos.org/mem/ you can now find mem111.zip :-)... Unfortunately I lost parts of the mem 1.10 sources in the course of creating 1.11, so if you still have a copy, we could upload that to freedos.org again. I have recreated the lost part based on 1.9a3, hopefully not introducing new errors. [...] Eric: I had already mirrored mem110.zip on ibiblio, before you blew away the copy on freedos.org: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/mem/mem110.zip You can go ahead and re-upload this file if you like. However, it might be a better idea to only have the latest release on freedos.org, and keep the historical archives on ibiblio, since we have a limited quote on freedos.org (sourceforge.net). Or, you could put the MEM versions into the sourceforge file releases section (which doesn't count against our quota.) -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] announce: mem 1.11 - prettier output, NLS, NOEMS
Eric Auer wrote: Another point which is indeed bad style is that I have split mem.c into mem.c and mem2.c - you can merge them again with very little editing, but it would have been a lot better to split the file properly / cleanly. For now, mem.c simply ends with a line #include mem2.c, and the makefile is unchanged ;-). Eric I guess I don't understand the short-term benefit this gives you, aside from making the code harder to read. As you say, it would be better to split the mem.c file into several *.c and *.h files ... why not do that? I see that the mem.c from 1.10 was 114k, and the mem.c and mem2.c from 1.11 are 58k and 55k respectively. So maybe you did this because whatever DOS editor you use doesn't read more than 64k. Even still, this is a dumb thing to do. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] announce: mem 1.11 - prettier output, NLS, NOEMS
Jim Hall wrote: Eric Auer wrote: Hi all, uploaded to http://www.freedos.org/mem/ you can now find mem111.zip :-)... Unfortunately I lost parts of the mem 1.10 sources in the course of creating 1.11, so if you still have a copy, we could upload that to freedos.org again. I have recreated the lost part based on 1.9a3, hopefully not introducing new errors. [...] Eric: I had already mirrored mem110.zip on ibiblio, before you blew away the copy on freedos.org: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/mem/mem110.zip Oops, looks like I didn't mirror the correct version of mem110.zip. On 26 Aug (yesterday) Eric re-released mem110.zip with an INT15 detection patch from a user. So the mem110.zip I have on ibiblio is what was first released as mem110.zip on 24 Aug, not what was re-released under the same filename 2 days later. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos package spec problem: sources, binary, docs
I think you are referring to this mini-HOWTO: http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.Distribution Yes, I agree that the source package should contain everything short of the generated binaries. If there are dupe files, let them be overwritten. This mini-HOWTO needs to be updated to say that. -jh Eric Auer wrote: Hi all, Blair pointed me to the fact that source packages are not supposed to contain docs, according to our specs. I object that recommendation. In my opinion, source packages should contain everything outside the bin directory, and binary packages should contain everything outside the source directory. My reason for this recommendation is that end users should have all documentation and that all documen- tation in fact IS part of the source code. When we work on updating a program, it has to be sufficient to download ONLY the source package to create a new version of the full binary package. One might say that this wastes space in situations where you put both source and binary package zips in one directory. Well. Shit happens. Or if that is not acceptable, one could put MINIMAL SOURCE zip packages in that directory, containing ONLY the source directory contents. Along with a readme which tells that the source zips in that directory can only be used in combination with the binary zips. Source packages which are available via http should contain the full docs. This avoids two problems: - people would otherwise have to download the old exe even if they only wanted the docs, for example for creating derived versions of the sources - programmers would otherwise easily forget to update the docs or, even worse, the NLS files when they modify the source code An alternative solution for all the hassles might be to have the docs in a third zip. Then you would have to download 2 of 3 zips for development and 2 of 3 zips for using the program. And all 3 zips would have minimal size. If anybody cares for size of source packages. Still I would really prefer to have all docs in the source zips! After all, people usually download only the sources of SELECTED packages. And the open source idea tells me that the sources are the origins of the world, so it should not be necessary to download the binary package to understand the sources. Eric -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] To Aitor
PS: Jim, I don't know if you read my message from private mail: I was just trying to ask you if you could allow or invite me to write to you private messages from this account of mine (gmail). I say this as I know your university seemed to have an ellaborate way of granting access to you ;-) Sorry - I thought I had replied to you already. I don't need to approve your email address ... Gmail is fine (the UofM has very nice blocking rules for mail servers that don't have DNS records ... but GMail meets all the criteria - it's fine.) -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] announce: mem 1.11 - prettier output, NLS, NOEMS
I do have latest (second) edition of mem110.zip with conversion LF to CRLF (latest file marked 2006/08/25). If you wish, I may resend it to you. Email it to me off-list. I'll reply to you (off-list) with my work (UofM) email address to use. My freedos.org account may fill up if you try to send it there. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Freedos-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 55
(Prot3anThr3ad) wrote: [Additional Comments] unsubscribe Hi. To unsubscribe from Freedos-devel, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address, visit this page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel The unsubscribe is at the bottom. Thanks. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Kernel 2037 actually available
Blair Campbell wrote: Ok, I took the time to upload proper kernel pacakges to www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/ as kernel2037-binary.zip and kernel2037-source.zip Enjoy PS: They contain Eric's QB 4.0 compatibility fix. Thanks, Blair! The fdkernel.lsm file wasn't updated in this zip package, so I edited the version on www.freedos.org. I'd like to post a news item on the web site, but I'm not sure what changes to announce. Can you email me off-list with something that I can re-use as a news item? Thanks. -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image
I feel it's important to get 1.0 out there to draw a line in the sand, that we're at least 1.0 quality. We can do what MS-DOS could do. Maybe we have a few bugs, but (and maybe this is a sad fact) what 1.0 software doesn't have bugs? People expect it. But marking a 1.0 release means you can start to work on stuff after 1.0. For example: I really want to extend what capabilities you have available in DOS. -jh Blair Campbell wrote: Much 1.0 software is released with known bugs. We never said that FreeDOS 1.0 would be bug free. On 8/18/06, Markus Laire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/18/06, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably know that MS DOS 1.0 did not even support subdirectories... ;-). While FreeDOS 1.0 is delayed because we keep adding features to our wishlist. Some of which are beyond MS DOS 6.xx! I wasn't really thinking MS DOS 1.0, but the attitude that 1.0 version is a bug-free version which doesn't have any known bugs and preferably not even unknown ones. -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image
Michael Devore wrote: At 01:08 PM 8/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: I feel it's important to get 1.0 out there to draw a line in the sand, that we're at least 1.0 quality. We can do what MS-DOS could do. Maybe we have a few bugs, but (and maybe this is a sad fact) what 1.0 software doesn't have bugs? People expect it. But marking a 1.0 release means you can start to work on stuff after 1.0. For example: I really want to extend what capabilities you have available in DOS. I've rethought my own idea on this a little bit. Take it for what it's worth. The 1.0 release announcement motivated a lot of people to test things at lot harder, or maybe just a lot more people tested it at all, or a combination of the two. The net result is the same; I personally have more support/feature requests and bug reports than I've had in aggregate for the past couple of years. All of them squashed together in the last month. [...] Maybe the release deadline needs little extra flexibility. Not like it was before. Oh, please, pretty please, not that. Just something like it's coming out, but right now we're clearing the flood of new reports from the initial 1.0 release announcement to ensure a quality experience. And as soon as bug reports die down -- not to the SAME level, but to a SANE level -- then a bit more testing of the final image and we're good to go. Basically, what I'm asking for, and I can't believe I'm doing it, is for a bit more time to pass, keeping the release based on feedback levels and with an eye on a firm release date in a timely fashion. Your original announcement of a month should have worked fine where FreeDOS was when you made it, but the act of the announcing changed all that. Okay. What do we think we're looking at here for us to be ready for our 1.0 debug? Another month? Two months? Or is it more like weeks? -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] What message is delivered by the decision to blacklist Johnson Lam permenantly
Interesting that Johnson should get mentioned now ... I _just_ had an off-list discussion with someone who wanted to get Johnson back on the list, and wanted to know if I would let him back on. Here's a summary of what I said in the off-list thread: I haven't banned him ... I simply unsubscribed Johson from the FreeDOS lists after fair warning. He is always welcome to resubscribe ... He's not blacklisted or anything. And if Johnson is having problems doing that, ask him to email me and I can re-add him manually. I am not filtering my email for his address. :-) But Johnson needs to understand that there should be no trolling. We don't need any more flame wars. I dropped him after fair warning for trolling, and he chose to ignore that warning and trolled again anyway. But if Johnson avoids trolling in future, there should be no problem, and he is certainly welcome back on the list. -jh Blair Campbell wrote: Hi. Johnson was warned repeatedly and was told many times what people didn't like about what he was doing. And Jim Hall gave him a warning to take such discussions off list. When Johnson failed to take the timely advice, and only then, he was removed from the list for failing to comply. On 8/15/06, HCL BA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, FreeDOS mailing list has never been the friendly place to me dispise its noble goal that win my admiration. Conflicts among members over minor issues are not uncommon, insulting words like fool, idiot, stupid are just usual as it also happens in other forums, and nobody was punished. IMHO, the decision to blacklist Johnson should be the last resort if he has ever commited any mistake deliberately after being warned, also there should be rules and regulations announced before the action taken, the verdict needs to be transparent. I do not see any rules and regulations before and after the whole matter. What policy is going to carried out? What guideline the members should follow? It makes Johnson feel he is the victim randomly picked at instead of understanding his ?wrongdoing? So the decision is hurting him more than helping him. Johnson has a long history in FreeDOS, he was also willing to help and just a humble fellow. Why sentenced him the heaviest penalty for the first time he irritated others. Why is it permenantly? Is there a way to appeal? BAHCL -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] What message is delivered by the decision to blacklist Johnson Lam permenantly
Eric Auer wrote: [...] Okay, wow, that was a novel-length email reply, and a bit more than was probably needed. Guys, let's calm down on this point. In short, I welcome Johnson (and any developer) back to the lists if he avoids trolling. I think he understands that now. Let's let this thread die - it's not looking very productive at this point. -jh - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] redirector
If it's related to the redirector, it may also date back to Jim Tabor, who made the effort to add CDROM network redirector support to the DOS-C kernel. IIRC, after Jim was kernel maintainer, it was John Price, then Bart Oldeman. But Bart is also part of the DOSEmu peeps, so he may have actually written this too. -jh Alain M. wrote: Hi Imre, if it is related to DOSC it must be very old and unchanged, that was the name of freedos a decade ago... Alain Imre Leber escreveu: The other day I was searching for information regarding the DOS network redirector and it seems that I could not find any information on the web. Then again I found the following in the DOSEmu documentation: The var 'running_DosC' is set by the DosC kernel and is used to handle some things differently, e.g. the redirector. It interfaces via INTe6,0xDC (DOS_HELPER_DOSC), but only if running_DosC is !=0. At the very startup DosC issues a INTe6,0xdcDC to set running_DosC with the contents of BX (which is the internal DosC version). Has Bart been doing things behind our backs? Anyway somebody should document the FreeDOS redirector. Imre -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] A20 handling competition, was Updated 1.0 Testing CD
... http://www.devoresoftware.com/goof/beanfront.jpg http://www.devoresoftware.com/goof/beanback.jpg Dude, you are having waay too much with your label maker. :-) -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] defrag
Imre Leber wrote: -Original Message- From: Florian Xaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2006 12:36 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] defrag I want to test it - could you please post a URL, where I can download it? You can find it at http://users.telenet.be/imre/FreeDOS/DEFRAG10.ZIP Be warned, it can be slow in most methods. Unfragment files only works pretty descent however, this is for most disks, the default method. And also, don't forget to make a backup. This is not because it doesn't work, but because this is rather standard procedure before you use tools like this. And again, I didn't want to make an unsollicitated commercial, I just couldn't find it back at ibiblio. I'm getting a little (a lot) behind. I've just posted this at ibiblio. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/defrag/ -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] website
Imre Leber wrote: Is the website supposed to remain looking like it is. It doesn't look very nice :-( Imre I'll be updating some content on the front page around the time we release FreeDOS 1.0, but otherwise I was finished with the design. What don't you like about the site? It's basically a cleaned-up version of the previous design. Most of the previous web site elements are still there. I'm happy to tweak the site to make it look better. Email me off-list and let me know what you think should change, and I'll see if we can add it to the design. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL
Blair Campbell wrote: Isn't glibc licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL) for this very reason? But a commercial app still cannot _statically_ link to it in that case; only dynamically. Specifically, the GNU LGPL says this in its preamble: For example, [..] If you link other code with the library, you must provide complete object files to the recipients, so that they can relink them with the library after making changes to the library and recompiling it. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights. There's more detail later further down in http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html but the above is the sticking point for using libraries covered under the GNU LGPL ... at least, using them IN COMMERCIAL, CLOSED-SOURCE APPLICATIONS. I considered this point when I decided to distribute Cats under the GNU LGPL, then decided that it was okay since the intended target was FreeDOS programmers, and we all provide source code (i.e. users have all they need to recompile from source, if they want.) -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL
Alain M. wrote: Mark Bailey escreveu: Isn't glibc licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL) for this very reason? There is nowhere to be seen any licence for glibc, not even in it's site. But even in LGPL it is a problem: you have to use the systems's version and it brings many compatibility problems It's unfortunate that glibc doesn't mention the license on their web site - you'd think that would be the first place to look. But you're right - it's not there, or at least I can't seem to find it either. I did grab the 20MB tar.gz file from the GNU site, and they do state the library is covered under the GNU LGPL. They also distribute the GNU LGPL as COPYING.LIB. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Mailer problems
... 1. users shouldn't use 8-bit characters in letters. This is not fix, this is bad workaround. 2. SF should turn on 8-bit compatibility (I suggest, this is question of only one line in config files). 3. Readers should use bugless servers and clients. I think, (2) and (3) are right (and best) solutions, whereas (2) is simplest and should be enough in given case. PS: Jim, may you contact with SF tech support about this issue? This is very annoying feature of SF mail servers. I think there is enough detail in this thread that I can open up a support ticket with SF to ask that they turn on 8-bit compatibility. I've just done so. Thanks. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Notes on rules: was EMM386 new release 2.20, new HIMEM 3.20
Michael Devore wrote: [...] Heh, she. Has anyone seen a female within a mile/kilometer/furlong of FreeDOS development? Too bad about the lack of them, though. We could use a few. My wife is sitting a few feet away from me as I write this. Does that count? :-) -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 20-Июл-2006 12:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Do you think, that distance allows/mean more rude behavior?! :) :( J No, it means using Bugzilla for bug reports - if anything at all. :) Strange. I was think, that bugzilla, private email or post in group is only ways to transfer reports to author and have nothing with distance between me and program. Guys, Do me a favor and please let this part of the EMM386 thread die. Japheth has already said he'll use bugzilla, and I guess he's satisfied with that, and I've emailed him off-list about his complaint that bugzilla makes you login several times (I think he may have cookies disabled in his browser ... that would give the effect he's seeing.) This discussion (which is mainly about conflict of personalities) isn't getting us anywhere. Let's focus the discussion back on the original topic - FreeDOS EMM386 in preparation for FreeDOS 1.0. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Attitude of coding.
All: Please don't make any further replies to this thread on the list. This is nothing but a troll. Earlier, I had given Johnson a warning off-list to stop his trolling, but he chose to ignore that warning. I have removed him from the list. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available
I feel very strongly that we must not have timeouts on the options when you first boot. Eric gives a good example - it happened to me. I was at work when I was testing the new CDROM (on Parallels on my iMac) and happened to get a phone call. When I looked back at my session, I had gotten an error about not bootable. It took a second try to realize that I didn't _really_ have a broken CDROM, but that was just the default setting. The timeouts also make it very hard for a new user to write down what they saw on screen (for example, to ask for help, saying I chose this option..). If you must have a timeout, use something long like 60 seconds ... but I'd much rather not have a timeout at all during the install process. -jh Blair Campbell wrote: They have 15 seconds the first time (Win98 only gives 10 FYI), and the second timeout gives 30 seconds. More than enough IMHO. On 7/17/06, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only two timeouts are the first timeout which defaults to boot from the hard drive rather than the CD-ROM (nothing wrong with that IMHO), and the second just boots defaultly into installation mode, which is what most people will be after. Please do not make that kind of assumptions. People who do not know about the character of the cdrom will first wonder why it never boots (default: boot from harddisk) and, when they figure out that, why it grabs their harddisk without first giving them a lot of time to think about whether they want DOS to be installed permanently. In short, just use infinite timeouts, or maybe a one minute timeout for the default for boot from harddisk item, to allow people to boot from cdrom, do a few selections, and then walk away (so the PC can reboot into dos-on-harddisk without further user intervention later). Eric -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix
And there remains issue with nested comments. MD No issue; no nesting. Ergo, I'm not changing it. In reply, rather than MD quoting boring old pre-ISO C compiler options, please instead trace support MD back to the far more enriching Magna Carta. King John of England's Enriching Magna Carta? Sorry, Michael, you as always very vivid and, thus, very hard to understand (by English non-native). :( I don't have my copy of Kernighan Ritchie's C Programming Language (ed. 2) with me to show you, but here is an excerpt from ISO/IEC 9899:TC2 WG14/N1124 Committee Draft - May 6, 2005 (6.4.9 Comments, page 66) that says the same thing: Except within a character constant, a string literal, or a comment, the characters /* introduce a comment. The contents of such a comment are examined only to identify multibyte characters and to find the characters */ that terminate it. With a footnote that says simply: Thus, /* ... */ comments do not nest. Some pre-ISO C compilers would barf if you had commented-out a statement like so: /* i++; /* increment the index */ ..because the compiler would see /* after /* and think that it should try to nest the comments. But in fact, according to ISO, comments CANNOT be nested and it doesn't matter what else you have after /* up until the next */. That's how I've always known C comments to work, after ISO. Although I hear King John of England only programmed in LISP, so nested C comments weren't a problem for him. :-) -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available
I'm experimenting with fdfullws.iso at the moment. It looks good so far, but I'm not done with the install yet. There is some menu cleanup that we could do before 1.0 ... I'll do some more experimenting and see if I can suggest something. One thing I would recommend is that we not have a timer on the options when you boot the install CD. If I were a new user to FreeDOS, I'd probably feel a bit rushed and would prefer to have more time to read through the options to figure out what they mean. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [OT] Is the skin legal?
Florian Xaver wrote: Hi, somebody sent me a skin for oZone, which looks like the skin of Windows Vista. I would like to include it into the package. Would it be legal? IANAL, but as long as you don't re-use copyrighted content (i.e. this person didn't actually use graphics taken from Vista, etc) then it's okay. Making skins to make one thing look like another thing has been done for a long time, and is okay AFAIK. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix
I also mirrored this release on ibiblio, and updated the LSM on the web site. :-) Blair Campbell wrote: Just in time :-) (15 min left here) On 7/14/06, Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/ are the files emmx211.zip, EMM386 version 2.11 memory manager, mostly executable files; and emms211.zip, source code files. 2.11 is a minor update from 2.10 -- minor, of course, unless you need it. [...] -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] New Release: EMM386 2.10, HIMEM 3.13
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 9-Июл-2006 14:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamarэa) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: AS alternatively can someone else send those (source+binary) to me? Done. I gather that Aitor was able to upload the files to ibiblio as they are there now. Thanks!! Also, I posted a news item for the web site ... should show up in about an hour. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] emm 2.10
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 1. emm386.lsm file isn't updated (old version). Fixed on www.freedos.org -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] emm 2.10
No, sorry I have not received your off-list emails. -jh Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! Jim, do you receive at last my private letters? I again receive messages, that may letters delayed: The original message was received at Sat, 8 Jul 2006 22:52:27 +0400 (MSD) from localhost [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors - jhall at freedos.org - Transcript of session follows - 451 jhall at freedos.org... freedos.org: Name server timeout Warning: message still undelivered after 5 hours Will keep trying until message is 4 days old -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Things about the upcoming distro
Blair Campbell wrote: Just to let you know, due to lack of bugfixes in the graphical installer, it cannot be included with 1.0, otherwise people would blame us for releasing buggy software. The text installer works pretty much everywhere and is much more stable. Unless anyone releases a showstopper-fixed graphical installer :-). [...] FDPKG 1.0-pre will be installed by default for package management, and a modified text installer will do its best to integrate package management into the installed FreeDOS (including removal of unwanted packages, dependency checking, etc..) Included with it is a utility that uses specified files to rename short filenames to long filenames needed by some packages. That way, the long filenames can survive being zipped and unzipped with an Info-Zip that doesn't support long filenames. Hi Blair, After the 1.0 distro is out, I'm thinking I'd like to help rebuild/improve the graphical installer, merging it with FDPKG, etc. The installer is the first thing that people will see when they try out FreeDOS ... a text installer is okay, but a nice-looking graphical version would be killer. I've been putting some thought into how to make the install process easier (not possible to implement before 1.0, but likely for the next distro) and I'd like to get involved again and write code for that. Heck, integrating package management into the FreeDOS installer was always a big goal of mine, but I never went to do it - maybe I can finally help make that happen. :-) Looks like the Install program that's on CVS (http://freedos.cvs.sourceforge.net/freedos/install/) is a slightly modified version of the text installer I wrote several years ago. Where are the sources for the graphical installer? Or would it be better to re-write the graphical installer from scratch? -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Things about the upcoming distro
Okay, I'll plan to start a re-write. I hate to start from scratch on stuff like this, but maybe I can reference the old code (I am not a pascal programmer, but I can likely _read_ it) to save time. Slightly off-topic: can anyone recommend a (good) DOS graphical toolkit for C programming? -jh Blair Campbell wrote: well, if you know PASCAL, it might be possible to modify the graphical installer, but otherwise, I would recommend a rewrite. The current gui installer requires a slightly older than latest version of FreePASCAL. On 7/5/06, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Looks like the Install program that's on CVS (http://freedos.cvs.sourceforge.net/freedos/install/) is a slightly modified version of the text installer I wrote several years ago. Where are the sources for the graphical installer? Or would it be better to re-write the graphical installer from scratch? -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] New installer (was: Things about the upcoming distro)
Nope, I'm looking for a C library that helps draw the graphical elements (windows, buttons, ...) like to build a graphical application. It needs to be lightweight - this is going to fit on a boot disk. Embedded apps like cash register displays, etc use something like this. Along the lines of libgtk but for DOS applications. Lots of things out there, but I haven't looked at them. That's why I'm fishing for recommendations. -jh Florian Xaver wrote: Hi, you mean an development enviroment? I am using SETEDIT or Necromancer's DOS Navigator. Bye Flo Slightly off-topic: can anyone recommend a (good) DOS graphical toolkit for C programming? -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] New installer
I'm not married to the idea of a GUI installer. I'm just as happy to update the text installer, but it has to look nice (again, this is the first experience people have with FreeDOS.) So, I'll expand my call for recommendations to include TUI toolkits. -jh Eric Auer wrote: Hi Jim, I would like to remind you that I would NOT recommend to have a GRAPHICAL installer for an operating system which itself is PURE TEXT. I mean the only gain from that would be that installshield sues us because we cloned their looks. Please stick with TUI installers (defrag / scandisk / edit style). Oh, by the way, if you are really THAT bored that you want to write a new component, please write a TUI for DOSFSCK to create a SCANDISK (as dosfsck has a simulation mode, it can be modified to save undo data. plus dosfsck is interactive, as is scandisk...) :-) . Well and... Pascal is not that bad, you could always fix the existing installer if graphics would be that much desired... If you wish, you can merge that off-list comment into the discussion on the list, of course. Eric PS: I gui installer for a command line OS would make people expect that the whole OS is gui, sort of... -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] arachne.lsm update...
Thanks. I updated the Software List. Florian Xaver wrote: Hi! Begin3 Title: Arachne WWW Browser and e-mail client Version: 1.90 Entered-date: 2006-04-13 Description: Web browser and e-mail client for DOS. Keywords: web, browser, arachne, e-mail, internet Author: Michael Polak @ xChaos Software Maintained-by:Joe da Silva, Glenn McCorkle Original-site:http://www.arachne.cz/ Primary-site: http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ Alternate-site: http://home.hetnet.nl/~ba8tian/arachne/arachne.htm Platforms: DOS/Linux (80386+) Copying-policy: GNU GPL End Bye -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [anounce] defrag beta 0.9
Imre Leber wrote: Hi, I am hereby posting a long overdue version of defrag. It has fixes regarding the interface. The command line interface now actually works and there is now the status bar is updated in move file fragments together mode. Further more there is now a check on FAT32 and a clear indication that this is not currently supported. You can find it at: http://users.telenet.be/imre/FreeDOS/defrag09.zip I tested and I am quite sure that this is a stable release and a candidate for version 1. Imre Leber News item posted ... may take an hour to show up on the www.freedos.org web site. I also mirrored your zip file on ibiblio, and updated the LSM. However, I had to re-edit the existing LSM since the LSM in the zip file wasn't right. Let me know if the copy I posted on the site needs fixing. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [announce] chkdsk 0.9
Imre Leber wrote: Hi, I am hereby releasing a new version of chkdsk. This version now has a status indicator in surface scan mode and does not stop the checking when a suspicious media descriptor was found. You can find it at: http://users.telenet.be/imre/FreeDOS/chkdsk09.zip This release seems to be stable so it is candidate for version 1. Imre Excellent! I love that we have so many new versions of software coming out. We should be in fine shape for 1.0. I've posted your announcement on the web site, mirrored your release, and updated the LSM. There wasn't an LSM in your zip file, so I edited the file web had on the web site. Let me know if it needs editing. News item may take up to an hour to show up on the main page. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Horrible Joke on FreeDOS.org??
Michael Devore wrote: No, I'm sorry, this explanation doesn't quite do it to me. You are the sole owner of the FreeDOS name. You can declare version 1.0, or 2.0.5 or 3.gizmo.woofdaddy at any time -- 1.0 release status doesn't and never did need a committee. Just do it, give everybody on development a month's notice and roll out what's there. FreeDOS certainly works good enough for 1.0 release. In fact, I think it's worked well enough for a while. Bugfree won't ever happen. [...] Up to you. Well put. I'm stepping up to the plate then. Blair reported that he's working on FreeDOS 1.0-pre1. Let's not make that a pre-release - let's actually release it as 1.0. To be released 28 July 2006. Whatever isn't ready by then waits for the post 1.0 distro. Everyone: for the good of the community, PLEASE let this be the last email in the Horrible joke thread. The thread needs to die. Let's finally stop the wheel-spinning and make our 1.0 debut. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0
Blair Campbell wrote: I think that 1.0 pre1 is good to start with, as we want to be able to work out distribution bugs before a final release (we don't want to repeat SR2). I'd rather we went for 1.0 instead of 1.0 pre1. I agree we should verify the distribution, but I'd rather we not officially announce 1.0 pre1. We can make something of a 1.0 pre1 available somewhere, and announce ON THIS LIST that it's available for us to TEST, but not mention 1.0 pre1 on the web site. The web site is our public face - as I have been painfully reminded. :-) I think we should still have a 1.0 in the best shape we can make it by 28 July. That's a month away ... I think we can do it. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Horrible Joke on FreeDOS.org??
Blair Campbell wrote: Why is there a horrible joke on www.freedos.org?? FreeDOS is definitely NOT dead, and it IS close to 1.0. In short, not dead. Man, I did a really stupid thing with the web site. I've gotten so much email on this that it's a lesson I won't soon forget. The truth of the matter is that it really _was_ a horrible joke that backfired. Here's what happened: Two weeks ago, I learned I needed to either move or shut down the server that runs (ran?) www.freedos.org. Last week, I set up a VHOST on freedos.sourceforge.net so that the SF site would respond to www.freedos.org traffic, and I had my DNS provider change the DNS entry for www.freedos.org to point to SourceForge's servers. Within a day, the DNS change had propagated so the new www.freedos.org address resolved for me at work and at home. So I assumed all was well, and I started seeing less traffic on the old server as DNS propagated to everyone else in the world. After a week, traffic on the old www.freedos.org had pretty much stopped ... or so I thought. Deciding to have a little fun (word used with tongue firmly in cheek) I posted a FreeDOS is dead message on the old site for the 1 or 2 people that were still accessing it. As I said, horrible joke. More on that, below. Little did I realize that after a _week_, the DNS change hadn't propagated everywhere yet. After I got the first few emails, I realized to my horror what had happened. So I immediately put the old page back. I guess the old server will be around for a little while longer while DNS continues to propagate. I'll say it here: the rumors of FreeDOS's death are exaggerated. My bad. Sorry. I don't _really_ think FreeDOS is dead. But we have stalled. There hasn't been any new development with FreeDOS in a long time. The last news item on the web site was posted 8 June, but the last FreeDOS news item dates back to 16 May and 11 January. Honestly, our lack of progress means I've started to lose interest. After 12 years, there's also been lots of bickering on the project, and I kind of got tired dealing with it all. Recently, we've had some flame wars which seems to have taken up all the bandwidth from people working on FreeDOS. IMHO I don't think it's going anywhere. I'd love for someone to pick up FreeDOS and keep it going, but I don't think it will be me. I'll still continue to register the freedos.org domain, and I'll keep it current. That's the least I can do. I guess I sort of snapped when I sat down on 28 June and was about to write up a Happy Birthday to FreeDOS news item, talking about how far we've come, and how great it will be when FreeDOS 1.0 is released. We've been talking about a 1.0 release since Beta7 (2001) when we finally became stable. The FreeDOS Beta9 Service Release 2 was announced December 2005 (with 1.0 promised before Christmas 2005) and instead FreeDOS Beta9 Service Release 2 update 2 was posted May 2006. It's as though we're afraid of the 1.0 label, sort of asymptotically approaching 1.0 but never really getting there. But when I sat down on 28 June to write that Happy Birthday news item, I realized I couldn't do it. I'd given up waiting on 1.0. I wrote the FreeDOS is dead message instead. Sorry. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Why 1.0 (was: Horrible Joke)
Jim Hall wrote: [...] It's as though we're afraid of the 1.0 label, sort of asymptotically approaching 1.0 but never really getting there. A lot of people probably wonder why is '1.0' so important? I feel we need to get 1.0 out there to draw a line in the sand, that we're at least 1.0 quality. We can do what MS-DOS could do. Maybe we have a few bugs, but what 1.0 software doesn't have bugs - people expect it. But marking a 1.0 release means you can start to work on stuff after 1.0: I really hoped we would be able to break out of the mould of MS-DOS, and start to extend what DOS means. FreeDOS-32 is along that direction. Multitasking, flat memory, etc. I'd also like to see more utilities to make it possible to replicate some of the advanced features we take for granted in modern operating systems, such as Linux. I guess I'm impatient to get there. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] powerbatch GPL
Hi. I finally got around to mirroring this on the FreeDOS archive at ibiblio. It's at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/ Marcus Furlong wrote: (02 June) Hi, After looking for a GPL alternative to Norton's batch enhancer and not finding one (if there is one let me know!), I contacted some of the author's of the ones listed on simtel. Of these, Matthias Nott was happy to release powerbatch under the GPL. I had been working on converting all the menus in the freedos installer to use it, but I haven't had enough time lately to finish this so if anyone want's to take this up, be my guest. If anyone is just interested in trying out Powerbatch to prettify their batch files, it is available from https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~furlongm/dos/pbatch/ Take care, Marcus. All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] freecom/cmd echo.c,1.5,1.6
Specifically, the // was introduced in the C99 spec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_programming_language#C99 Blair Campbell wrote: Well, the latest C standard says that // is a valid C source code comment, so... On 6/13/06, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A slight commenr, weren't you changing C++-style comments wich C-style comments? Sorry for being too concerned for such regardless comments! :-) -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Fwd: SourceForge.net: CVS service offering changes
I'm sure many of you are members of SourceForge, so you probably already got this email. But I thought I'd fwd this to the list anyway to make sure everyone knew about the CVS change on SourceForge: SourceForge.net Team wrote: Greetings, You are receiving this mail because you are a project admin for a SourceForge.net-hosted project. One of our primary services, CVS, suffered a series of interrelated, critical hardware failures in recent weeks. We understand how frustrating this CVS outage must be to you and your users; however, our top priority remains preservation of the integrity of your data. The series of CVS hardware failures prompted us to expedite the deployment of planed improvements to our CVS infrastructure, drawing upon much of the knowledge that we gained from our Subversion deployment. Our improved CVS service architecture, which we plan to deploy tomorrow afternoon (2006-05-12), will offer greater performance and stability and will eliminate several single points of failure. The Site Status page (https://www.sf.net/docs/A04) will be updated as soon as the new infrastructure is rolled out. In the interim, please read the important information provided below to learn about how these changes will affect your project. Summary of changes, effective 2006-05-12: 1. Hostname for CVS service Old: cvs.sourceforge.net New: PROJECT_UNIX_NAME.cvs.sourceforge.net This change will require new working copies to be checked out of all repositories (so control files in the working copy will point to the right place). We will be updating the instructions we supply, but instructions that your team has written within documentation, etc. will need to be updated. cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gaim co gaim would be changed to cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gaim co gaim 2. ViewCVS We are moving from ViewCVS to its successor, ViewVC. ViewVC is currently in use for our Subversion service. 3. Sync delay Old: CVS pserver, tarballs and ViewCVS provided against a separate server which is a minimum of three hours behind developer CVS. New: ViewVC will be provided against developer CVS (it will be current). CVS pserver will be provided against a secondary server (not developer server) with a maximum expected delay of two hours. Follow-up work is planned (this infrastructure takes us 80% of the way) to essentially eliminate the sync delay. 4. Read-only rsync service As a new service offering, we are now providing read-only rsync access against developer CVS. This allows projects to efficiently make on-demand backups of their entire CVS repository. All projects should be making regular backups of their CVS repository contents using this service. 5. Nightly tarball service Nightly tarball service is being dropped in lieu of read-only rsync service. Projects which currently depend on nightly tarballs for repository backups will need to begin using rsync to make a backup copy of their repository contents. We see this as a major functional improvement. For a number of reasons, tarballs have fallen out of sync with the data in the repository at times in the past few years. Tarballs required a substantial amount of additional disk, and I/O to generate. The move to read-only rsync allows backups to be produced on-demand, with an update frequency chosen by the project. 6. Points of failure In the past, developer CVS service for all projects was provided from a single host. CVS pserver service was provided from individual backend heads based on a split of the data. Under our new design, developer CVS and most of our CVS-related services are provided from one of ten CVS hosts (count subject to increase with growth). Each host is independent, and makes a backup copy of the repository data of another host (which is used to provide the pserver CVS service). Failure of a single host will impact only the availability of data on that host. Since the data is split among a larger number of hosts, the size of data impacted by an individual host outage is substantially smaller, and the time required for us to restore service will be substantially shorter. This rapid architecture change has been made possible specifically using the research we performed for our recent launch of Subversion service. We've applied our best practices, produced a substantial amount of internal documentation, and kept an eye toward maintainability. This effort has allowed us to deploy this new architecture quickly once hardware was received, and will permit us to quickly scale this service horizontally as growth and demand requires. Many other minor improvements have also been made to improve the service offering and make it less trouble-prone. The most important of which are listed above. For a full description of the new service offering, and for information on how to use the services described above, please refer to the site documentation for the CVS service after the service has been
[Freedos-devel] Openwatcom on ibiblio
Someone posted a openwatcom-complete.tar.bz2 file on ibiblio at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/. This wasn't the right location for it, so I've relocated it to http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/ and renamed the file to openwatcom-complete-1.5.tar.bz2 (the readme.txt says this is version 1.5.) Just wanted to let everyone know, in case the person who put it there thought it had been deleted. :-) -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Site outage on 20 May
On Saturday, 20 May, the data center that hosts the www.freedos.org web site will be doing maintenance and upgrades on their UPS that requires turning off all power for 4 hours. Between 8AM and noon (US/Central, GMT-0600) on 20 May 2006, the www.freedos.org web site will be unavailable. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] dumb question (OT)
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 14-Мар-2006 19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Riebisch) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: name in man' pages? For example: sed(1), dirent(3), etc. RR That's a section number. 1 = Commands, 2 = System calls, ... see RR http://gmanedit.sourceforge.net/man7.html Hm. I never will remember this. :( I thought the same thing when I first started using UNIX, but it eventually became habit. _Usually,_ the section number doesn't really matter. It's only in cases where the thing you are looking up has an entry in another section. For example: the UNIX program /usr/bin/getopt has its man page as getopt(1), but the getopt() function has its man page as getopt(3). By default, man starts looking in section 1. So you can just do: man getopt ..if you want to read about the /usr/bin/getopt program. But if you are looking for how to use the getopt() function - something I always need to look up, no matter how often I use it - you need to specify the section: man 3 getopt Similarly, to learn how to use the /usr/bin/crontab program, you would type: man crontab But to learn about the file format for the crontab file - and I always do, because I tend to forget which field is day of the month - you need to look in section 5: man 5 crontab -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Possible web server outtage this Friday
FYI: the datacenter where the www.freedos.org server is hosted will be doing some maintenance on Friday morning, 17 March. This will last until noon (GMT-0600, or US/Central). The web site may be unavailable during that time. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Looking for mirror webmaster
Is the webmaster who runs the http://freedos.gds.tuwien.ac.at/ web site on this list? Hi. I noticed that your FreeDOS mirror site doesn't display the styles correctly. Looks like you probably mirrored the FreeDOS web site using a web crawler, rather than using the http://www.freedos.org/mirror.tar.gz and http://www.freedos.org/mdaily.tar.gz files. So you aren't picking up the images referenced in freedos/css/styles.css (i.e. the web site doesn't have a banner image.) Would you mind refreshing your mirror using the mirror.tar.gz to make your mirror complete? Thanks. -jh --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] test email (please ignore)
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Bugzilla
Hi all, I've moved the FreeDOS Bugzilla to Sourceforge. If you have bookmarked the old Bugzilla, please update to use the new location. I've updated the links on the www.freedos.org web site (mirrors should be updated in the next day.) Please do not report problems with the FreeDOS Bugzilla to the staff at SourceForge - they will not respond to you. If you get software errors when using Bugzilla, please use the formmail to report the problem. A note about email: The downside is that email won't work from SourceForge. I mentioned this in my emails last week. The SourceForge hosting service does not allow any outbound email from their servers. While this isn't much of an issue for bug change notification (this hasn't worked on the old Bugzilla for a while, I think) it will be an issue for when you need to be reminded of your password. You will NOT receive email for password changes or when you create a new account. The old Bugzilla has been taken down (you'll get a friendly message if you use the old URL.) After I took down the old Bugzilla, I took a current dump of the MySQL database, then used that to import the bug data to SourceForge. So all the bug data was converted successfully. Please check out the new Bugzilla, and if you have any issues, please email them to me (off-list). I'll make time over the next few days to respond to any problems that get reported. -jh Jim Hall wrote: Hi everyone. Things aren't looking so great, and I need to move the FreeDOS Bugzilla. Like, now. I feel I've run out of time. Since #1 (SourceForge) requires the least work, because everything is already set up, I am going to move the FreeDOS Bugzilla to SourceForge over this weekend - probably Saturday. I'll disable Bugzilla put up a web page just before I do the final database dump, and will update links and post a news item when the move is complete. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS website
David O'Shea wrote: Hi all, How come all the URLs on the FreeDOS website are of the form http://www.freedos.org/freedos/something? I assume it was not always this way because fdos\doc\mem\bugs.txt refers to http://www.freedos.org/bugs; which doesn't seem to exist anymore. It would be nice if the old URLs still worked so that users who try to report bugs can do so without geting any 404 Not Found errors. I am the webmaster; I think I can answer your question. I moved all the mirror-able content into the /freedos directory some time ago. The idea was to make it easy for other sites to mirror the FreeDOS web site content. To create a mirror, you only need to drop the content in /freedos; mirror sites may also have a /freedos.html page as the index, although some use /freedos/ as the index. The /bugs URL moved to /freedos/bugs some time ago (maybe as long as a year ago.) For a while, I had a redirect page under /bugs, but I did some cleaning on the web site a few months ago and probably removed it then. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Bugzilla
Hi everyone. Things aren't looking so great, and I need to move the FreeDOS Bugzilla. Like, now. I feel I've run out of time. Since #1 (SourceForge) requires the least work, because everything is already set up, I am going to move the FreeDOS Bugzilla to SourceForge over this weekend - probably Saturday. I'll disable Bugzilla put up a web page just before I do the final database dump, and will update links and post a news item when the move is complete. -jh Jim Hall wrote: Owen Rudge wrote: Hi Jim, Well, just to reiterate my offer from last year, if you need hosting for Bugzilla or anything else, let me know and it can be sorted out. My servers are not going to disappear any time soon. :-) Owen, you so rock. Hmm.. maybe this can become our Option #2, if Owen can make a bugs.freedos.org VHOST. Option #2 is I could move the www.freedos.org site (which I'd plan to do anyway) and leave the FreeDOS Bugzilla on this guy's server as bugs.freedos.org. I don't think that would be a problem for now. And I could make nightly backups of our Bugzilla data to Owen's server, so that if we ever get into a situation where we lose the current hosting, we would have the data available to put onto Bugzilla on Owen's server. I can do the setup work on Owen's box, so importing the data wouldn't take long. So, I think our current options are: #1 - move FreeDOS Bugzilla to SourceForge, but lose email notification. Not an issue for bug changes (email hasn't worked in a while, anyway) but would be a problem for getting your password changed or creating a new account. #2(modified) - Leave Bugzilla on the current server as bugs.freedos.org, but keep Owen's server as a new bugs.freedos.org that we could move to in an emergency. Backups are sent to Owen's box on a nightly basis. #3 - Migrate the FreeDOS Bugzilla data to the SourceForge Tracker. They can't do this now, but they are working on it. Stay on the current server as bugs.freedos.org until then (see #2). and a new one: #4 - Move Bugzilla to Owen's server as bugs.freedos.org, and not have to worry about this bs again. I kind of like the idea of #4, but I'll be honest ... #2 involves less work on my part, at least in the short term. :-) Seriously though, I don't have much free time these days. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Bugzilla
Jim Hall wrote: Hi, all. I have a problem with the web site hosting. Unfortunately, the person who is currently hosting the www.freedos.org web site can be difficult to work with - and lately, VERY difficult. I'm somewhat concerned that if things continue to sour with this guy, he might preemptively pull our web site hosting. Rather than wait for that to happen, I'm in the process of moving site content. I'll be taking over the hosting of www.freedos.org myself, on a personal system I have access to at my work. Hosting the static content is easy. However, there are some real issues in moving the FreeDOS Bugzilla there, so I'm looking into other options. ... Eric sent a reply directly to me, but it should be part of the discussion: Eric Auer wrote: Hi, I think non-mailing bugzilla should be okay... And we could move the bugzilla WISH items to the wish tracker of SF while leaving the bugzilla BUG items in any classic bugzilla (eg a non-mailing one hosted on SF) for now... My 2 cents... -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Bugzilla
Owen Rudge wrote: Hi Jim, Well, just to reiterate my offer from last year, if you need hosting for Bugzilla or anything else, let me know and it can be sorted out. My servers are not going to disappear any time soon. :-) Owen, you so rock. Hmm.. maybe this can become our Option #2, if Owen can make a bugs.freedos.org VHOST. Option #2 is I could move the www.freedos.org site (which I'd plan to do anyway) and leave the FreeDOS Bugzilla on this guy's server as bugs.freedos.org. I don't think that would be a problem for now. And I could make nightly backups of our Bugzilla data to Owen's server, so that if we ever get into a situation where we lose the current hosting, we would have the data available to put onto Bugzilla on Owen's server. I can do the setup work on Owen's box, so importing the data wouldn't take long. So, I think our current options are: #1 - move FreeDOS Bugzilla to SourceForge, but lose email notification. Not an issue for bug changes (email hasn't worked in a while, anyway) but would be a problem for getting your password changed or creating a new account. #2(modified) - Leave Bugzilla on the current server as bugs.freedos.org, but keep Owen's server as a new bugs.freedos.org that we could move to in an emergency. Backups are sent to Owen's box on a nightly basis. #3 - Migrate the FreeDOS Bugzilla data to the SourceForge Tracker. They can't do this now, but they are working on it. Stay on the current server as bugs.freedos.org until then (see #2). and a new one: #4 - Move Bugzilla to Owen's server as bugs.freedos.org, and not have to worry about this bs again. I kind of like the idea of #4, but I'll be honest ... #2 involves less work on my part, at least in the short term. :-) Seriously though, I don't have much free time these days. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Bugzilla
Rather than wait for that to happen,
Could you give some numbers about that hosting? Disk space, amount of
transfered data, sw requirements, and whatever.
I would like to study a solution around here...
That's one of the areas in which things have been difficult - stats.
The guy who hosts the www.freedos.org site doesn't believe in stats for
some reason, and hasn't been willing to install anything that allows
tracking of stats. So I can't tell you about bandwidth on the server.
Disk space is fairly light, since I've been in the process already of
moving site content into the /freedos directory (if it's content that
needs to be mirrored) or onto freedos.sourceforge.net (if it's large or
rarely-used content.)
Total space used on the www.freedos.org web server:
$ du -sh /web/www.freedos.org/
36M/web/www.freedos.org/
Most of that is the web site:
$ ls /web/www.freedos.org/
bugzilla/ build/ perl/
bugzilla-2.18.3.tar.gz htdocs/
$ du -sh /web/www.freedos.org/htdocs/
20M/web/www.freedos.org/htdocs/
**note: 9.7MB of htdocs is a backups directory.
$ du -sh /web/www.freedos.org/{bugzilla,perl}
7.6M/web/www.freedos.org/bugzilla
4.9M/web/www.freedos.org/perl
**build is just a temporary directory where I compiled perl mods needed
for Bugzilla, but never got around to deleting this dir afterwards.
To support Bugzilla, I need UNIX (Linux preferred) and a recent version
of perl. I can locally-compile any missing perl mods.
-jh
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FAT patents and freedos?
Markus Laire wrote: Slashdot has an article Microsoft FAT Patent Upheld http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/11/0555252tid=155tid=109 The discussion also links to the page FAT File System Technology License http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/tech/fat.asp Does anyone know if this is a problem for FreeDOS or not? The linked page about FAT license only speaks about using FAT on a media, and not about products using FAT. Right, the page you linked to: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/tech/fat.asp is the important one. As I understand it, the impact will be to manufacturers of devices. Specifically mentioned in the fat.asp page are: -A license for removable solid state media manufacturers and: -A license for manufacturers of certain consumer electronics devices -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FAT patents and freedos?
I started looking more into the patents in question, and I'm not really concerned with respect to FreeDOS. The 3 patents listed on http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/tech/fat.asp are: * U.S. Patent #5,579,517 Common name space for long and short filenames * U.S. Patent #5,758,352 Common name space for long and short filenames * U.S. Patent #6,286,013 Method and system for providing a common name space for long and short file names in an operating system The abstracts for each look identical: An operating system provides a common name space for both long filenames and short filenames. In this common namespace, a long filename and a short filename are provided for each file. Each file has a short filename directory entry and may have at least one long filename directory entry associated with it. The number of long filename directory entries that are associated with a file depends on the number of characters in the long filename of the file. The long filename directory entries are configured to minimize compatibility problems with existing installed program bases. None of these are directly related to FAT, per se. They are more directly related to VFAT LFN support. IANAL, but this doesn't look very applicable to FreeDOS sans LFN. -jh Links: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=/netahtml/search-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=ptxts1=5579517.WKU.OS=PN/5579517RS=PN/5579517 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=/netahtml/search-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=ptxts1=5758352.WKU.OS=PN/5758352RS=PN/5758352 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=/netahtml/search-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=ptxts1=6286013.WKU.OS=PN/6286013RS=PN/6286013 -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Hungary mirror site
Hi. I'm not sure who owns the mirror site at http://mirrors.pmmf.hu/freedos/ but it appears to be down. I've removed this site from our mirror list. I don't seem to have a contact email address for this mirror site. If you are the webmaster, please email me off-list to get re-added. Thanks. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS web site mirrors
Hi from Italy. www.freedos.org looks blank, empty I'm very embarrassed by that. Sorry. Just before I signed off last night (after sending my note) I tweaked the get-index script on www.freedos.org, which constructs the front page every hour. It was a minor change, so I didn't test it. But I made a typo, so the script broke. It wrote a zero-length file every time it ran. Oops. :-( Fixed now (and tested). -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS web site mirrors
Webmasters will want to do a refresh of their FreeDOS.org web site mirror. I just made a change to the css that will make your front page look weird _unless_ you refresh. I've also removed the FreeDOS News Bits section with a FreeDOS Pressroom section. All the News Bits files have been renamed so they have the year tacked on front (so the items sort by year) which also makes things a lot easier to find. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Official KITTEN
Will do. (Expect it this weekend.) Alain wrote: Please send me that version prior to inserting into ibiblio so that I can test if it has the same strange behaviour in XDEL. -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628alloc_id=16845op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [OT] FreeDOS at SF
Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote: Hi there, I have incidentally visited the [EMAIL PROTECTED] page, and I've seen their new redesign, I don't know since when it's there, but wow! It definitely needed it, and it's cute now, at least to my eyes. I noticed SF was down earlier this morning, when I tried to make an update. The web error I got was something to the effect of we're temporarily unavailable for maintenance. I assumed they were adding a new server, but it looks like they were re-doing the SF web site. -jh -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628alloc_id=16845op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] DRDOS Inc, FreeDOS, and GPL (was Re:FreeDOS on SourceForge)
Bart Oldeman wrote: Hi Jim, I think you confused SourceForge with SlashDot, although both sites are owned by the same company. D'oh! That was a big typo - I had just finished doing a bunch of stuff on the SourceForge site, so that was still floating in my head when I wrote my email. Yes, I meant Slashdot. -- I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] DRDOS Inc, FreeDOS, and GPL (was Re:FreeDOS on SourceForge)
Bart Oldeman wrote: ... But there are really two seperate issues here: 1) is the thing mentioned in the yellow box on www.freedos.org about SYS and FDXXMS. Well at least they mention it now (I can sleep well as co-copyright holder of SYS I guess): http://www.drdos.com/products/drdos81.htm Portions are licensed under GPL (SYS v2.6 and FDXXMS v.92) or other licenses. I am glad to see this. However, DRDOS still has not met the conditions of the GNU GPL (section 3) relating to redistribution: 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following: a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.) They've acknowledged that FreeDOS SYS and FDXXMS are distributed under the GNU GPL, but to my knowledge they have not (a) included the complete source code to both SYS and FDXXMS, or (b) included a written offer to provide source code for same. Option (3c) is not open to DRDOS, since this is a commercial distribution. However, I will admit that I do not know the contents of the Source Code distro (http://www.drdos.com/products/sourcecode.htm) so it may in fact include the complete source to SYS and FDXXMS. That is a separate sale by DRDOS, and a price is not mentioned on their site. Their Source Code distro may be a perceived grey area in the GNU GPL. If they include the source for SYS and FDXXMS in their Source Code distro, then they will have (sort of) met the conditions for (3b). DRDOS may believe this protects them, although a strict reading of the GNU GPL would probably not support them. Unfortunately, this may be the best we can get from DRDOS. I'll still email them again anyway, and see if they can at least change the wording on http://www.drdos.com/products/drdos81.htm to be something like we mention in our FAQ. Currently, their wording says: Portions are licensed under GPL (SYS v2.6 and FDXXMS v.92) or other licenses. If they were to change this to something like the following, I'd be happy: SYS v2.6 and FDXXMS v.92 are distributed under the GNU GPL. These are from the FreeDOS Project, and you may download the latest versions from www.freedos.org. Or, purchase our DRDOS Open Source Code CD to obtain the version of the source code included in DRDOS 8.1. I guess I'm implying that DRDOS would need to create a new product (another sale!) of a 'DRDOS Open Source Code CD' that includes just the source code for the open source software products included in DRDOS. Since it's another sale to them, I imagine that will make it easier for DRDOS to implement. 2) is what you only see when you click on Read More, the stolen work of Udo Kuhnt which they now sell as theirs, well that is not really a FreeDOS issue but something between Udo Kuhnt and DRDOS Inc. I don't think stolen is the correct word, since Udo could have known this could happen: it's entirely legal for the owners of DRDOS to do this. If Udo would not like this he should not have started his work. Pat Villani mentioned that this could happen over 7 years ago! http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freedos-devm=90221486827973w=2 And I agree with him, for the record. Of course the unprofessional way in which these things appeared to have been done does not give me much confidence in DRDOS Inc. It's just that stolen refers to something done illegally, which it isn't. Yes. The DRDOS / OpenDOS work is unfortunate, and under the DRDOS license I don't know that Udo has much to stand on. For those who didn't follow the link, Pat was responding to an email I had posted (where I responded to a suggestion that the FreeDOS Project and OpenDOS work together - but we can't, because our licenses are not compatible.) Pat's reply was: Your reply is very good and to the point. I had no problems when Tim Bird originally suggested, on this list, that we work together. Unfortunately, OpenDOS license is totally incompatible with GNU. It is also written in a way that basically allows Caldera to take your
