Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-08 Thread Shiny protector

Hi,

Seriously, I want JK.Rauling to release more books on Harry Potter. Like how 
he works in the ministry as an orrar, it would be quite interesting to read.
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What about book 8?

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Good grief.

Maybe jk should now release 9th book, Harry potter and the publishers of 
idiocy, in which harry Ron and Hermione discover that the spirit of 
voldemort is being channeled through miss written books in the wizarding 
world, which changes the facts and alter what happened.


The book mostly concerns them breaking into the publishing house and 
turning all the scum bag pen pushing, small minded idiots into toads ;D.


Beware the grue!

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-08 Thread Shiny protector
I don't actually mind when they make the wrong mistakes, as long as I 
understand.
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Admittedly I've deviated from cannon in my fanfics. WHat I find more 
annoying is the ones who don't even bother to proofread. So you get then 
instead of than. Or people who supposedly have read the books and don't 
evenmanage to get names right. And I'm not talking about just misspelling 
them. Grinda Marchbanks. Grummund Place? Serveus Snape? And yes, I've seen 
all three of those.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Hi Dark,

Lol! Well, trust me some of the fan fiction I've read is a lot worst
than what the American publishers have done. Admitedly though some
places like the Sugar Quill attempt to stick to cannon as much as
possible and I find their fan fiction archives of a much higher
quality than you will find on fanfiction.net etc. Some of the writers
on the generic fan fiction websites aren't worried about maintaining
cannon and go off into alternative realities or something. Especially,
some of the adult Harry Potter fanfiction dealing with an imaginary
sexual relationship between Harry and Hermione. Yuck!

Cheers!


On 3/6/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Good grief.

Maybe jk should now release 9th book, Harry potter and the publishers of
idiocy, in which harry Ron and Hermione discover that the spirit of
voldemort is being channeled through miss written books in the wizarding
world, which changes the facts and alter what happened.

The book mostly concerns them breaking into the publishing house and 
turning

all the scum bag pen pushing, small minded idiots into toads ;D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-08 Thread dark

Actually Muhammed I'm afraid I totally disagree.

I'm really not a fan of series of books or tv series that just go on and on 
and on without ending churning out one thing after another getting worse and 
worse and never actually resolving plot.


Startrek voyager rather fell into this gap, as have many anime which go on 
for hundreds of episodes with not much happening.


personally while I love harry potter, I think jk rowling is right to let the 
story end as a complete story rather than dragging it out.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Muhammed,

Watch your mouth! We have rules against perfanity on list, and weather
you quoted a book, fan fic, etc you are not to repete it here on list.
If I see any more language like that on list I'll have to moderate
you.



On 3/8/11, Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 My favourite fanfics of Harry Potter are Harry Potter and the misterious
 island, a serpents sacrifice, learning to breathe, Gryffindors never die,
 and you're a girl. Those ones are cool, especially the part in Gryffindor's
 never die when \Harry says, Suck it, bitches! No one takes Harry Potter
 down! I think some authors are good writers, like, Ben, not you Ben,
 another one which I don't know, Xoxo Sparkshine and more.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Yeah, I agree with that. It is better to let a series come to some
kind of final conclusion rather than let it go on and on forever. I've
seen series that drag on and on for years and it seams at some point
all it does is ends up getting worse and worse the longer it drags on.
Authors run out of new ideas, new ways to market it, and eventually
nobody wants to read, watch, or listen to it any more. The longer it
drags out the more ways the author has of screwing up the story.

For example, let's take Xena Warrior Princess. It was a television
series I was fond of. I watched it clear up until season 4, and then
it took a nose dive. Around season 5 it really began to get worse and
the storylines for the epasodes weren't that good compared to the
first couple of seasons. Even worse when they finally did reach the
last epasode in season 6 they ended it with Xena being beheaded and
Gabrialle walking away crying. They killed it because I think they had
too long with the series, and by season 5 and season 6 they were
frankly out of ideas how to progress the series any further.

Star Trek Next Generation is another case in point. In general the
entire seven seasons were all fairly good. It remains my favorite
television series of all time. The only thing is when they decided to
go to the big screen they ruined the series in a big way. In Star Trek
Generations they destroyed the Enterprise, and had to replace it with
a newer looking Enterprise in First Contact. Data finally got his
emotion chip which forever changed his character that could be good or
bad depending on your point of view. What really took the cake is Star
Trek Nemesis. Yeah, they finally brought the Riker and Troi
relationship to a close by marrying them at the beginning of the
movie, which was good, but they killed off Data, destroyed the new
Enterprise, and Riker finally got his own ship at the end of the
movie. I'm sorry, but I think they had too much time to screw up the
Next Gen series. They'd have been better off to end it at All Good
Things, and then leave it at that.

Anyway, like I was saying regardless if it is Xena, Star Trek, Star
Wars, or Harry Potter the longer the author has to drag a series out
the longer he or she has of ruining it. I'm personally glad J. K.
Rowling ended it at Deathly Hallows, because it was one of those
series that had a potential for going on forever, but it would have
eventually lost its charm if it was out there for too long. In a way,
I think J. K. Rowling did ruin the series at the end because many of
the main characters were killed off by the end of the series. Not
exactly the happy ending we were expecting.

Cheers!


On 3/8/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Actually Muhammed I'm afraid I totally disagree.

 I'm really not a fan of series of books or tv series that just go on and on
 and on without ending churning out one thing after another getting worse and
 worse and never actually resolving plot.

 Startrek voyager rather fell into this gap, as have many anime which go on
 for hundreds of episodes with not much happening.

 personally while I love harry potter, I think jk rowling is right to let the
 story end as a complete story rather than dragging it out.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-08 Thread dark

Hi tom.

In terms of startrek I agree, but I'm afraid I totally disagree about harry 
potter and character deaths.


I find I am far more engaged with books, films or tv series where the 
characters are not safe. Where any event can be life threatening, and kill, 
or profoundly change a character.


During my first go through of deathly hallows,  and even before that in 
books 5 and 6, I actually found myself really and seriously bothered 
everytime a life threatening or dangerous situation turned up sinse there 
was no guarantee the characters would get out of it alive.
For me there is nothing less interesting than a really predictable plot 
where you know,  oh look, the hero runs into the burning building and 
just gets off scot free by some freak survival.


Jk Rowling took this even further, by having an absolutely realistic level 
of danger where even a miner confrontation or change could be crytical.


There aren't many authors or series I know that managed to get this level of 
absolute realism into their work or make you care so much about characters 
when they go through profound changes.


Tad williams, jk rowling, and Ian M banks are the authors that most come to 
mind for this, as do the series babylon 5 and more recently being human.


This is however very ot so I'll stop.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

True. That's one of the reasons why Harry Potter etc became very
popular. The endings of her books were pretty shocking. We have Sedric
Diggary dying in Goblet of Fire, Serious Black dying in Order of the
Phoenix, Dumbledore dying in Half-Blood Prince, and lots of deaths in
Deathly Hallows. I agree with you that J. K. Rowling is a good author
for not following the predictable path of all the heroes getting out
alive. I also admire her for not following the lead hero marries lead
heroine path.

I don't know if you remember this but around the time Goblet of Fire
came out there was a huge internet debate on who Harry Potter would
fall in love with. There was a very very large group of people who
predicted Harry would fall in love with Hermione, and so there was a
huge slue of fan fic with Harry and Hermione romantic based
storylines. I suppose given Harry was the main character and Hermione
was the lead female character that conclusion wasn't out of the
question, but I always thought Harry and Ginie would make a better
couple. As it turned out that's exactly how J. K. Rowling played it.
Ron and Hermione got together and Harry and Ginie got together at the
end of Deathly Hallows. I felt she ended it right, and didn't do the
predictable thing of Harry and Hermione which was the popular view for
a long time.

Cheers!


On 3/9/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi tom.

 In terms of startrek I agree, but I'm afraid I totally disagree about harry
 potter and character deaths.

 I find I am far more engaged with books, films or tv series where the
 characters are not safe. Where any event can be life threatening, and kill,
 or profoundly change a character.

 During my first go through of deathly hallows,  and even before that in
 books 5 and 6, I actually found myself really and seriously bothered
 everytime a life threatening or dangerous situation turned up sinse there
 was no guarantee the characters would get out of it alive.
 For me there is nothing less interesting than a really predictable plot
 where you know,  oh look, the hero runs into the burning building and
 just gets off scot free by some freak survival.

 Jk Rowling took this even further, by having an absolutely realistic level
 of danger where even a miner confrontation or change could be crytical.

 There aren't many authors or series I know that managed to get this level of
 absolute realism into their work or make you care so much about characters
 when they go through profound changes.

 Tad williams, jk rowling, and Ian M banks are the authors that most come to
 mind for this, as do the series babylon 5 and more recently being human.

 This is however very ot so I'll stop.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread shaun everiss

oh yeah what I was thinking hmmm.
Hmmm what was I thinking, that was a good question.
At 10:37 p.m. 6/03/2011, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Ummm...Final Conflict? I don't think so. Its Time of Conflict.

Cheers!


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 anyway  its not likely we will see anything on that front any time soon.
 Gma has been silent about all projects since final conflict.
 At 11:29 p.m. 5/03/2011, you wrote:
Nice idea. except, I don't think the gma engine has mouse
support.  kind of sad.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Charles Rivard

What about book 8?

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Good grief.

Maybe jk should now release 9th book, Harry potter and the publishers of 
idiocy, in which harry Ron and Hermione discover that the spirit of 
voldemort is being channeled through miss written books in the wizarding 
world, which changes the facts and alter what happened.


The book mostly concerns them breaking into the publishing house and 
turning all the scum bag pen pushing, small minded idiots into toads ;D.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Yes, I take your point, and you are absolutely right. It does seam the
rest of the world isn't treated individually from the way it sounds. I
wouldn't know, because that's just the way it is in terms of adds etc
over here. Everything is modified to suit an American audience which,
as you say, really strips it of its original culture and meaning. It
doesn't seam that we do the reverse when targeting other cultures.

As for the Simsons jokes Homer was talking about football, and no, I'm
not talking about socker. The Dalase Cowboys is a popular American
football team, and for a while had a great record and played the Super
Bowl a few years in a row. Now, though, some of their mvp players have
retired and the new draft players aren't as good. This year they
played rather poorly over all. The Denver Broncos are also a football
team and I haven't kept up with their stats this past season.

HTH

On 3/6/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Tom.

 Historically I can see the logic of that, sinse as in the case of pizza,
 America had a lot of immigrants turning up with their own culture and ideas,
 however going in the other direction, ie, american exports to other places,
 it often seems that american companies, add agencies etc don't take into
 account that people in other countries do not always use the same language
 or have the same standards as the us.

 Take hollywood films for instance.

 Some years ago, I remember a huge controversy over a second world war film
 about the enigma machine which was used to crack the german radio code.

 The problem was where as in reality this had been done at the naval base in
 portsmouth (england), the Hollywood directors decided to relocate it to I
 believe los angeles and thus make it entirely American centered.

 Needless to say, the people who actually did! work on the code were
 extremely irritated at this, and it lead to a huge law sute.

 my point however, is that the concern of the directors here,  much as
 with harry potter, was only to make something American, not with the actual
 historical content of the film.

 It would be like someone over here making a film about the entry of the
 japanese into the second world war, but having Liverpool bombed instead of
 pearl harbour, or making a film about the battle of getisberg set in
 London, --- -completely crazy!

 However my problem is the same process doesn't go on in reverse, American
 programs are not rebranded to appeal to audiences in other countries,
 neither are american products changed.

 I have for instance seen adverts over here talking about something being
 too good for Geeks which is a very Us expression, or using terms like
 sleep overs (I saw a recent wii title advertized in this way), which again
 are neither particularly British expressions, nor really concepts over here.

 Yet, American advertizers automatically assume that Britain is exactly like
 the states, and so do no rebranding or markiting at all.

 Over here, it's quite accepted that some things take place in America, 
 much the same way watching an Anime series automatically implies that it
 takes place in japan.

 Take the simpsons. Frequently there are jokes on the simpsons about
 celebrities or ideas that are totally unknown over here, in fact I've often
 found myself utterly confused at some of the jokes.

 Take for instance the point where Homer works for Scorpio the james bond
 villain. Homer says his ambition is to own the dallis cowboys, and at the
 episode he ends up owning the Denver Bronco's.

 I'm not even sure which sport these two teams play, much less their track
 record which would be necessary to understand the joke.

 do we see head master Skinner, care taker willy, and Mo owning a pub? heck
 no! such a thing would be ridiculous.

 I think this is my main problem and the reason I talkedabout Americans
 forgetting about the rest of the world.

 Imports into the states are most often reclassified, redistributed and
 redubbed as American,  even down to established historical fact, where
 as exports from the states simply assume the rest of the world is exactly
 the same,  which actually seems a product of the imports, sinse if
 Americans are used to only uUs centric things and language, more people will
 assume that the rest of the world is exactly the same.

 Btw, this isn't intended as a wrant against America or as an attack on
 anyone in particular. Heck, this list,  and the accessible games
 community in general is extremely diverse in terms of nationality, I'm just
 trying to highlight  something of a social trend in this case which I've
 noticed.

 Also, i'm not implying that everything American is automatically bad, or
 worse than everything British.

 I've said before that the Us seems to have a generally much better atitude
 to disability than over here,  and I actually really enjoy the simpsons.

 Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Lol! Well, trust me some of the fan fiction I've read is a lot worst
than what the American publishers have done. Admitedly though some
places like the Sugar Quill attempt to stick to cannon as much as
possible and I find their fan fiction archives of a much higher
quality than you will find on fanfiction.net etc. Some of the writers
on the generic fan fiction websites aren't worried about maintaining
cannon and go off into alternative realities or something. Especially,
some of the adult Harry Potter fanfiction dealing with an imaginary
sexual relationship between Harry and Hermione. Yuck!

Cheers!


On 3/6/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Good grief.

 Maybe jk should now release 9th book, Harry potter and the publishers of
 idiocy, in which harry Ron and Hermione discover that the spirit of
 voldemort is being channeled through miss written books in the wizarding
 world, which changes the facts and alter what happened.

 The book mostly concerns them breaking into the publishing house and turning
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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Clement Chou
Not sure if anyone else has read these, but I thought these were 
better than the average one...


Both of these could've been good replacements for book six, IMO.

Hary Potter and the Guild of the Night
Hary Potter and the Veal of Mystery

Both of these could've been a good seventh book...
Hary Potter and the Crystaleen Darkness
Hary Potter and the Ring of Reduction

The guild of the night and crystaleen darkness follow each other, and 
so does veal of mystery and ring of reduction. I loved both of these, 
particularly veal of mystery and ring of reduction.


At 09:42 PM 07/03/2011, you wrote:

Hi Dark,

Lol! Well, trust me some of the fan fiction I've read is a lot worst
than what the American publishers have done. Admitedly though some
places like the Sugar Quill attempt to stick to cannon as much as
possible and I find their fan fiction archives of a much higher
quality than you will find on fanfiction.net etc. Some of the writers
on the generic fan fiction websites aren't worried about maintaining
cannon and go off into alternative realities or something. Especially,
some of the adult Harry Potter fanfiction dealing with an imaginary
sexual relationship between Harry and Hermione. Yuck!

Cheers!


On 3/6/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Good grief.

 Maybe jk should now release 9th book, Harry potter and the publishers of
 idiocy, in which harry Ron and Hermione discover that the spirit of
 voldemort is being channeled through miss written books in the wizarding
 world, which changes the facts and alter what happened.

 The book mostly concerns them breaking into the publishing house 
and turning

 all the scum bag pen pushing, small minded idiots into toads ;D.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Bryan Peterson
Admittedly I've deviated from cannon in my fanfics. WHat I find more 
annoying is the ones who don't even bother to proofread. So you get then 
instead of than. Or people who supposedly have read the books and don't 
evenmanage to get names right. And I'm not talking about just misspelling 
them. Grinda Marchbanks. Grummund Place? Serveus Snape? And yes, I've seen 
all three of those.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Hi Dark,

Lol! Well, trust me some of the fan fiction I've read is a lot worst
than what the American publishers have done. Admitedly though some
places like the Sugar Quill attempt to stick to cannon as much as
possible and I find their fan fiction archives of a much higher
quality than you will find on fanfiction.net etc. Some of the writers
on the generic fan fiction websites aren't worried about maintaining
cannon and go off into alternative realities or something. Especially,
some of the adult Harry Potter fanfiction dealing with an imaginary
sexual relationship between Harry and Hermione. Yuck!

Cheers!


On 3/6/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Good grief.

Maybe jk should now release 9th book, Harry potter and the publishers of
idiocy, in which harry Ron and Hermione discover that the spirit of
voldemort is being channeled through miss written books in the wizarding
world, which changes the facts and alter what happened.

The book mostly concerns them breaking into the publishing house and 
turning

all the scum bag pen pushing, small minded idiots into toads ;D.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Clement Chou
Agreed... and I've seen those as well. What I hate worse is when Hary 
Potter tries to cross itself over with an anime... Hary Potter and 
Bleach tried to mesh together, and Naruto as well. Those were both 
dreadful to read... I stopped halfway through the second chapter or so.


At 09:47 PM 07/03/2011, you wrote:
Admittedly I've deviated from cannon in my fanfics. WHat I find more 
annoying is the ones who don't even bother to proofread. So you get 
then instead of than. Or people who supposedly have read the books 
and don't evenmanage to get names right. And I'm not talking about 
just misspelling them. Grinda Marchbanks. Grummund Place? Serveus 
Snape? And yes, I've seen all three of those.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Bryan Peterson

Just so you know though, it's Harry, not Hary. Two R's. LOL.
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Agreed... and I've seen those as well. What I hate worse is when Hary 
Potter tries to cross itself over with an anime... Hary Potter and Bleach 
tried to mesh together, and Naruto as well. Those were both dreadful to 
read... I stopped halfway through the second chapter or so.


At 09:47 PM 07/03/2011, you wrote:
Admittedly I've deviated from cannon in my fanfics. WHat I find more 
annoying is the ones who don't even bother to proofread. So you get then 
instead of than. Or people who supposedly have read the books and don't 
evenmanage to get names right. And I'm not talking about just misspelling 
them. Grinda Marchbanks. Grummund Place? Serveus Snape? And yes, I've seen 
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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

No, I haven't. I'm going to google for them shortly and take them to
bed to read. I'm always looking for decent/good fan fiction to read.

Cheers!




On 3/8/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not sure if anyone else has read these, but I thought these were
 better than the average one...

 Both of these could've been good replacements for book six, IMO.

 Hary Potter and the Guild of the Night
 Hary Potter and the Veal of Mystery

 Both of these could've been a good seventh book...
 Hary Potter and the Crystaleen Darkness
 Hary Potter and the Ring of Reduction

 The guild of the night and crystaleen darkness follow each other, and
 so does veal of mystery and ring of reduction. I loved both of these,
 particularly veal of mystery and ring of reduction.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Well, to be honest that is a major thing that put me off Harry Potter
fan fics for a long time. I was grabbing them off of generic fan fic
websites and there was no attempt to edit or correct spelling errors,
grammar errors, and people screwing up the names outright. That's why
now days if I want a particular fan fic weather it is Tomb Raider,
Harry Potter, Star Wars I try to go to places that moderate the fan
fiction and edit it before posting. That's why I like the Sugar Quill
because they do a decent job of making sure only decent stuff gets
posted to the archives rather than just anyone's fan fiction. I don't
mind deviating from the cannon so much as that the text is well
written and doesn't look like a second grader wrote it.

Cheers!




On 3/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 Admittedly I've deviated from cannon in my fanfics. WHat I find more
 annoying is the ones who don't even bother to proofread. So you get then
 instead of than. Or people who supposedly have read the books and don't
 evenmanage to get names right. And I'm not talking about just misspelling
 them. Grinda Marchbanks. Grummund Place? Serveus Snape? And yes, I've seen
 all three of those.
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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-06 Thread shaun everiss

well look at technology.jaredrimer.net
to see what the american name has become.
Personally the amercan way has degraded to a point where I doubt I 
will trust anything that comes out of america in the way I'd  used to.

Look at the article about the net laws etc.
At 12:49 a.m. 6/03/2011, you wrote:

Yeah I never understood why they changed the name of the book the American
name is pants and it doesn't even explain anything as to what this stone is.
If anything it offers a misconception

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 suspect Tom was just referring to the game which was licensed by the film,
sinse even in the us, the first book is stil called philosophers' stone.

It always amuses me that the hollywood numbskulls thought Americans wouldn't

know what a philosopher was so called it sorcerer's stone instead,  by
the same logic, sinse I'm doing a phd in philosophy, can I say I'm doing a
phd in sorcery? ;D.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Ummm...Final Conflict? I don't think so. Its Time of Conflict.

Cheers!


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 anyway  its not likely we will see anything on that front any time soon.
 Gma has been silent about all projects since final conflict.
 At 11:29 p.m. 5/03/2011, you wrote:
Nice idea. except, I don't think the gma engine has mouse
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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-06 Thread dark

Good grief.

Maybe jk should now release 9th book, Harry potter and the publishers of 
idiocy, in which harry Ron and Hermione discover that the spirit of 
voldemort is being channeled through miss written books in the wizarding 
world, which changes the facts and alter what happened.


The book mostly concerns them breaking into the publishing house and turning 
all the scum bag pen pushing, small minded idiots into toads ;D.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-06 Thread dark
That's true Bryan, but that expression is a good bit older and slightly 
obscure, and it wouldn't have occurred to me as a concern for reading the 
book.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-06 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

Historically I can see the logic of that, sinse as in the case of pizza, 
America had a lot of immigrants turning up with their own culture and ideas, 
however going in the other direction, ie, american exports to other places, 
it often seems that american companies, add agencies etc don't take into 
account that people in other countries do not always use the same language 
or have the same standards as the us.


Take hollywood films for instance.

Some years ago, I remember a huge controversy over a second world war film 
about the enigma machine which was used to crack the german radio code.


The problem was where as in reality this had been done at the naval base in 
portsmouth (england), the Hollywood directors decided to relocate it to I 
believe los angeles and thus make it entirely American centered.


Needless to say, the people who actually did! work on the code were 
extremely irritated at this, and it lead to a huge law sute.


my point however, is that the concern of the directors here,  much as 
with harry potter, was only to make something American, not with the actual 
historical content of the film.


It would be like someone over here making a film about the entry of the 
japanese into the second world war, but having Liverpool bombed instead of 
pearl harbour, or making a film about the battle of getisberg set in 
London, --- -completely crazy!


However my problem is the same process doesn't go on in reverse, American 
programs are not rebranded to appeal to audiences in other countries, 
neither are american products changed.


I have for instance seen adverts over here talking about something being 
too good for Geeks which is a very Us expression, or using terms like 
sleep overs (I saw a recent wii title advertized in this way), which again 
are neither particularly British expressions, nor really concepts over here.


Yet, American advertizers automatically assume that Britain is exactly like 
the states, and so do no rebranding or markiting at all.


Over here, it's quite accepted that some things take place in America,   
much the same way watching an Anime series automatically implies that it 
takes place in japan.


Take the simpsons. Frequently there are jokes on the simpsons about 
celebrities or ideas that are totally unknown over here, in fact I've often 
found myself utterly confused at some of the jokes.


Take for instance the point where Homer works for Scorpio the james bond 
villain. Homer says his ambition is to own the dallis cowboys, and at the 
episode he ends up owning the Denver Bronco's.


I'm not even sure which sport these two teams play, much less their track 
record which would be necessary to understand the joke.


do we see head master Skinner, care taker willy, and Mo owning a pub? heck 
no! such a thing would be ridiculous.


I think this is my main problem and the reason I talkedabout Americans 
forgetting about the rest of the world.


Imports into the states are most often reclassified, redistributed and 
redubbed as American,  even down to established historical fact, where 
as exports from the states simply assume the rest of the world is exactly 
the same,  which actually seems a product of the imports, sinse if 
Americans are used to only uUs centric things and language, more people will 
assume that the rest of the world is exactly the same.


Btw, this isn't intended as a wrant against America or as an attack on 
anyone in particular. Heck, this list,  and the accessible games 
community in general is extremely diverse in terms of nationality, I'm just 
trying to highlight  something of a social trend in this case which I've 
noticed.


Also, i'm not implying that everything American is automatically bad, or 
worse than everything British.


I've said before that the Us seems to have a generally much better atitude 
to disability than over here,  and I actually really enjoy the simpsons.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-06 Thread dark

Wow, I wish I could've come to your wedding ;D.

For some odd reason our light opera society had a hole spanish contingent 
involved. At one time the conductor, Director, lead comedy baritone and 
pianist were all! spanish, (sort of amusing considdering we were doing 
gilbert and sullivan, but hay).


After the show, the pianist and conductor decided to have a payellia party.

Fantastic! some of the best cooked stuff ever, --- and extremely filling!

not overly spicy sinse it was spanish more than mexicon, but fantastic none 
the less.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Pitermach
Nice idea. except, I don't think the gma engine has mouse support.  kind of 
sad. 



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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark
Actually tom, I'm not sure if you've played aprone's latest game (he who 
made towers of war), daytona and the book of gold, sinse that is exactly 
what you do, cast a magic spell to make gold appear by performing mouse 
movements.


see http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=Daytona+and+the+book+of+gold

It's a nice idea for a game, but I'm not sure how well it'd fit in sarah, 
sinse your running around avoiding ghosts, solving puzles etc at the same 
time, and adding mouse movements to that (which take some practice), might 
just be a bit too much.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Hi Phil and all,

Tonight I was sitting back playing a game of Sarah when I realised
there is a feature I'd really love to se added to the game at some
point. I don't know how many of you have ever played some of the Harry
Potter PC games, but in many of them you have to use the mouse to cast
spells. For example, in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone to cast
the Flipendo spell you have to move the mouse right, down, and then
quickly up again. Then, click the left mouse button to cast the spell.
For one thing it is visually pretty cool because Harry follows your
wand movements on screen, but more than that it makes the games a bit
more challenging because you actually have to learn and remember how
to do each and every spell in the game. I was wondering if this could
be a possible addition to Sarah at some point?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark
suspect Tom was just referring to the game which was licensed by the film, 
sinse even in the us, the first book is stil called philosophers' stone.


It always amuses me that the hollywood numbskulls thought Americans wouldn't 
know what a philosopher was so called it sorcerer's stone instead,  by 
the same logic, sinse I'm doing a phd in philosophy, can I say I'm doing a 
phd in sorcery? ;D.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark
I would find that absolutely insane, english characters using American 
terms,  heck when something from America comes out over here we don't 
have it edited to use the British terms for things at all, in fact I 
remember being quite litle when my dad explained to me that American words 
for clothing such as pants and shorts didn't mean the same thing as over 
here.


I wonder what they did about the very english slang such as git as an insult 
or Loo for toilet which both come up in the books.


The one odd thing is jk does use the term moaning mertle's bathroom on 
occasion even in the original uk edition, she alternates betwene this and 
calling it a toilet as would be usual over here.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread darren harris
Yeah I never understood why they changed the name of the book the American
name is pants and it doesn't even explain anything as to what this stone is.
If anything it offers a misconception 

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 suspect Tom was just referring to the game which was licensed by the film, 
sinse even in the us, the first book is stil called philosophers' stone.

It always amuses me that the hollywood numbskulls thought Americans wouldn't

know what a philosopher was so called it sorcerer's stone instead,  by 
the same logic, sinse I'm doing a phd in philosophy, can I say I'm doing a 
phd in sorcery? ;D.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, to be honest the kinds of wand motions we are talking about are
generally pretty simple. For example, Alohomora, which Phil uses in
Sarah, is left, right, down, up. You can do that pretty fast in the
Harry Potter games. Remember we aren't talking huge motions here so
using a mouse a little move left, a little move right, a little move
down, and a little push forward would do it. What's that a couple of
seconds?

Generally speaking you have plenty of time to pull off a wand movement
like that. It is certainly faster than bringing up the spell menu and
looking through the list for the one you want. In fact, that is a big
reason why I'm suggesting it. I think the spell menu is too slow and
doesn't give you a quick and easy way to get to the spell you want.
With the mouse you can draw the spell, click the left mouse button,
and presto.


Cheers!


On 3/5/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Actually tom, I'm not sure if you've played aprone's latest game (he who
 made towers of war), daytona and the book of gold, sinse that is exactly
 what you do, cast a magic spell to make gold appear by performing mouse
 movements.

 see http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=Daytona+and+the+book+of+gold

 It's a nice idea for a game, but I'm not sure how well it'd fit in sarah,
 sinse your running around avoiding ghosts, solving puzles etc at the same
 time, and adding mouse movements to that (which take some practice), might
 just be a bit too much.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

That's precisely my point. That's why I personally purchased the
versions published by Bloomsberry. The characters are from England,
the books takes place in England, and the American copies have been
edited to be more Americanized. I found it slightly odd myself, and
I'm not even from the U.K. Lol!

Anyway, to bring this back on topic with gaming the odd thing is you
see this in the Harry Potter games as well. If you fire up
Philosopher’s  Stone for the PC it will ask you what language you want
the characters to speak in. They have American English, British
English, German, Spanish, etc. I can certainly understand having
options for foreign languages like French, German, and Spanish but
having American acters doing Harry Potter, Hermione, and Ron, etc is
weird.  Why didn't they just stick with the U.K. acters for the
English cutscenes?

On 3/5/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 I would find that absolutely insane, english characters using American
 terms,  heck when something from America comes out over here we don't
 have it edited to use the British terms for things at all, in fact I
 remember being quite litle when my dad explained to me that American words
 for clothing such as pants and shorts didn't mean the same thing as over
 here.

 I wonder what they did about the very english slang such as git as an insult
 or Loo for toilet which both come up in the books.

 The one odd thing is jk does use the term moaning mertle's bathroom on
 occasion even in the original uk edition, she alternates betwene this and
 calling it a toilet as would be usual over here.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Thomas,
I think I announced that the next version of the Sarah game would have mouse 
support.
Unfortunately, just as it's current joy stick support, the mouse can only 
use existing keyboard commands.

For example the forward, backwards and turning movement keys.
The left mouse button pulls up the spell menu and you can move thru it with 
the mouse and click on the right mouse button to cast the spell.
I was hoping that David could add more flexible mouse control, but that 
would require the game engine to record what the mouse was doing and compare 
the results in a group of variables.


I do like playing the wand game in,
Brian Bors' Three mouse driven games.
Gestures.
You are attacked by ogres and imps and must combat them with two spells.
These spells are cast by performing various gestures, and variations of 
these gestures using your mouse.

including a game tutorial that will let you practice the spells.

I also know of
Jeremy Kaldobsky's Aprone's Daytona and the Book of gold .
The metallic sounds are made as I move the mouse into different shapes. What 
is cool is that each direction you move makes a different noise so someone 
sitting beside you can actually tell which shape you drew once they've been 
exposed to the game for a bit!
The voice on the right is my character reading up to 3 shapes from the spell 
book that I must draw next. The voice to the left is just encouragement or 
warning depending on how fast and accurate I currently am.
Each successful shape, in the right order, conjures more [gold] coins that 
can be heard falling to the table. Each successful shape makes its own sound 
as it casts and a central voice announces its name.




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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Dark,

Ummm...No. The U.S. version of the book is Sorcerer's Stone, same with
the film, and the first vidio game for the PC. Warner Brothers had
nothing to do with the name change.

Cheers!



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  suspect Tom was just referring to the game which was licensed by the film,
 sinse even in the us, the first book is stil called philosophers' stone.

 It always amuses me that the hollywood numbskulls thought Americans wouldn't
 know what a philosopher was so called it sorcerer's stone instead,  by
 the same logic, sinse I'm doing a phd in philosophy, can I say I'm doing a
 phd in sorcery? ;D.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,

Major bumber. Too bad I can't just port the game to BGT or G3D. Mouse
support would add so much more to this game. Especially if you could
use gestures and wand motions. I've got a pretty good idea how to do
it too.

Basically, you'd just create an array that keeps track of which way
the mouse is moving. When you perform a left click it would find out
which patern is in the array and cast that spell. Unfortunately, as
you stated the GMA engine isn't that flexable.

Cheers!


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 Hi Thomas,
 I think I announced that the next version of the Sarah game would have mouse
 support.
 Unfortunately, just as it's current joy stick support, the mouse can only
 use existing keyboard commands.
 For example the forward, backwards and turning movement keys.
 The left mouse button pulls up the spell menu and you can move thru it with
 the mouse and click on the right mouse button to cast the spell.
 I was hoping that David could add more flexible mouse control, but that
 would require the game engine to record what the mouse was doing and compare
 the results in a group of variables.

 I do like playing the wand game in,
 Brian Bors' Three mouse driven games.
 Gestures.
 You are attacked by ogres and imps and must combat them with two spells.
 These spells are cast by performing various gestures, and variations of
 these gestures using your mouse.
 including a game tutorial that will let you practice the spells.

 I also know of
 Jeremy Kaldobsky's Aprone's Daytona and the Book of gold .
 The metallic sounds are made as I move the mouse into different shapes. What
 is cool is that each direction you move makes a different noise so someone
 sitting beside you can actually tell which shape you drew once they've been
 exposed to the game for a bit!
 The voice on the right is my character reading up to 3 shapes from the spell
 book that I must draw next. The voice to the left is just encouragement or
 warning depending on how fast and accurate I currently am.
 Each successful shape, in the right order, conjures more [gold] coins that
 can be heard falling to the table. Each successful shape makes its own sound
 as it casts and a central voice announces its name.



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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Thomas,
This is why I wish I had written the Sarah game myself instead of using 
David's engine.
I proposed several ways of casting spells, but the game engine is not 
capable of doing them.
He is working on mouse support right now and it does sound like it would 
work well with the game.

I do now have hot key support inside the spell menu.
For example, control s brings up a quick menu and then you can hit u to cast 
the unlocking spell.
There is a keystroke ini file that allows you to change the quick spell menu 
from control s to just s, which would make casting even faster.

Phil

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Hi Dark,

Well, to be honest the kinds of wand motions we are talking about are
generally pretty simple. For example, Alohomora, which Phil uses in
Sarah, is left, right, down, up. You can do that pretty fast in the
Harry Potter games. Remember we aren't talking huge motions here so
using a mouse a little move left, a little move right, a little move
down, and a little push forward would do it. What's that a couple of
seconds?

Generally speaking you have plenty of time to pull off a wand movement
like that. It is certainly faster than bringing up the spell menu and
looking through the list for the one you want. In fact, that is a big
reason why I'm suggesting it. I think the spell menu is too slow and
doesn't give you a quick and easy way to get to the spell you want.
With the mouse you can draw the spell, click the left mouse button,
and presto.


Cheers!


On 3/5/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Actually tom, I'm not sure if you've played aprone's latest game (he who
made towers of war), daytona and the book of gold, sinse that is exactly
what you do, cast a magic spell to make gold appear by performing mouse
movements.

see http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=Daytona+and+the+book+of+gold

It's a nice idea for a game, but I'm not sure how well it'd fit in sarah,
sinse your running around avoiding ghosts, solving puzles etc at the same
time, and adding mouse movements to that (which take some practice), 
might

just be a bit too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Shiny protector

How do you do stupify in the harry potter games?
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Hi Dark,

Well, to be honest the kinds of wand motions we are talking about are
generally pretty simple. For example, Alohomora, which Phil uses in
Sarah, is left, right, down, up. You can do that pretty fast in the
Harry Potter games. Remember we aren't talking huge motions here so
using a mouse a little move left, a little move right, a little move
down, and a little push forward would do it. What's that a couple of
seconds?

Generally speaking you have plenty of time to pull off a wand movement
like that. It is certainly faster than bringing up the spell menu and
looking through the list for the one you want. In fact, that is a big
reason why I'm suggesting it. I think the spell menu is too slow and
doesn't give you a quick and easy way to get to the spell you want.
With the mouse you can draw the spell, click the left mouse button,
and presto.


Cheers!


On 3/5/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Actually tom, I'm not sure if you've played aprone's latest game (he who
made towers of war), daytona and the book of gold, sinse that is exactly
what you do, cast a magic spell to make gold appear by performing mouse
movements.

see http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=Daytona+and+the+book+of+gold

It's a nice idea for a game, but I'm not sure how well it'd fit in sarah,
sinse your running around avoiding ghosts, solving puzles etc at the same
time, and adding mouse movements to that (which take some practice), 
might

just be a bit too much.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark
Hmmm, I probably had a bit of a misconception, sinse daytona's motions are a 
bit more complex, but that is the point of the game.


Hmmm, I'm not sure, casting the wrong spell at the wrong time might be a bit 
of a problem, and there are always the shortcut keys for speed.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark

Selecting American English?  that's absolutely mad!

i will say though that I have rather noticed a tendency from some people, 
companies and agencies in the Us to forget that the rest of the world 
exists, in fact it can be quite irritating over here when American companies 
or people forget that that not everyone is part of the us or uses the same 
language.


For instance, I saw an add the other day talking about home movies which 
is certainly not a term we use over here.


Even words liek Jerk, dorc, or geek which are sometimes used in adds tend to 
not be used by people on the street, just on tv.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

True.  Then again, considering the Harry Potter games were targeting
preteens etc it is not that surprising they didn't use too many
complex wand motions.In fact some of the levels were a bit lame in my
opinion.

For example, in Sorcerer's Stone the most common enemy you encounter
is gnomes running all over the Hogwarts grounds. Harry basically has
to use the Flipedo spell to turn them over. Not exactly true to the
books, of course, but that is the sort of enemies you generally fight.
Sounds to me like they wanted to soften the action for younger gamers
to me.

On 3/5/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hmmm, I probably had a bit of a misconception, sinse daytona's motions are a
 bit more complex, but that is the point of the game.

 Hmmm, I'm not sure, casting the wrong spell at the wrong time might be a bit
 of a problem, and there are always the shortcut keys for speed.

 Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark
Oh, that's more dire than I thought, i just thought it was the usual 
hollywood idiocy.


I'm surprised Jk didn't stop that one.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark
Of course, that was back in the days befor harry potter and the tremendous 
blood bath, aka the deathly hallows ;D.


When some deluded people stil considdered harry potter a kids book only.

One of the favourite moments for my friends and I from the hp films is the 
chamber of secrets, when you see the basillisk from the back and the phenix 
flying in, then here noises, when tom riddle then spouts that brilliant 
line:


your bird may have blinded the bassilisk  but it can smell you

Or rather your bird may have blinded the bassilisk, --- but we couldn't 
show it in a pg 12! ;d.


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread dark
I've not heard that one phil, but it sounds quite possible to me. 

A bit of a long title though ;D. 

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Charles Rivard
He used that title because that is the title of the book published in the 
United States, where he resides.


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By the way tom.  Not meaning to be picky... but in the uk, its 
philosopher's
stone - it just, no offence meant, seemed a bit weird you calling it by 
that

name... but that's just me.  Don't take it personally.


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Hi Phil and all,

Tonight I was sitting back playing a game of Sarah when I realised
there is a feature I'd really love to se added to the game at some
point. I don't know how many of you have ever played some of the Harry
Potter PC games, but in many of them you have to use the mouse to cast
spells. For example, in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone to cast
the Flipendo spell you have to move the mouse right, down, and then
quickly up again. Then, click the left mouse button to cast the spell.
For one thing it is visually pretty cool because Harry follows your
wand movements on screen, but more than that it makes the games a bit
more challenging because you actually have to learn and remember how
to do each and every spell in the game. I was wondering if this could
be a possible addition to Sarah at some point?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Charles Rivard
I don't remember who it was, but someone once said that the United States 
and the United Kingdom were two countries separated by a common language.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW



Hi Ben,

Yes, I know. You can blame the naming issue on Scholastic. For reasons
no one will ever understand, including J. K. Rowling herself,
Scholastic insisted that the name be changed for the U.S. market even
though it was being marketed in the U.K. by Bloomsberry  as Harry
Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. As you might have guessed the
movies, games, toys,  etc followed the patern. In the U.S. it was
named one thing and in the U.K. another. Its not something we can do
anything about, and I've gotten use to calling it by both names.

At any rate you might be surprised I have a complete copy of the Harry
Potter books published by Bloomsberry instead of Scholastic for that
very reason.  Scholastic basically took the books, heavily  edited
them, and made it easier to follow by an American audience by changing
the names of things when and where necessary. I didn't really like it,
because they changed the story a little too much in my opinion.

For example, in Chamber of Secrets when discussing the Ford Anglia the
U.K. version uses English names for things like the boot and  bonnet
of the car.  In the American release they use trunk and hood instead.
Instead of using toilet they inserted the word bath room. These are
relatively miner changes, but I personally like reading it exactly as
J. K. Rowling wrote it instead of reading it second hand after some
American editor got done changing this and that to fit their idea of
how the book should read. So, yeah, I agree if you read the U.K.
versionand then the U.S. version it seams quite strange to see how
much difference there is over all.

Cheers!




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By the way tom.  Not meaning to be picky... but in the uk, its 
philosopher's
stone - it just, no offence meant, seemed a bit weird you calling it by 
that

name... but that's just me.  Don't take it personally.




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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Charles Rivard
Using gestures to cast spells makes me wonder if a version of the game could 
be made to be used on an iPhone.  Shaking the phone, tilting in any of the 4 
directions left, right, forward or backward, moving your finger in 
particular patterns to perform functions, and other stuff like that are used 
on the touch sensitive screen, and, as a new and ongoing learning experience 
is showing me, certainly can be performed by a blind person.  I would think 
this would take an awful lot of work by the developer, but it would be cool 
for the gamer.


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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW



Hi Thomas,
I think I announced that the next version of the Sarah game would have 
mouse support.
Unfortunately, just as it's current joy stick support, the mouse can only 
use existing keyboard commands.

For example the forward, backwards and turning movement keys.
The left mouse button pulls up the spell menu and you can move thru it 
with the mouse and click on the right mouse button to cast the spell.
I was hoping that David could add more flexible mouse control, but that 
would require the game engine to record what the mouse was doing and 
compare the results in a group of variables.


I do like playing the wand game in,
Brian Bors' Three mouse driven games.
Gestures.
You are attacked by ogres and imps and must combat them with two spells.
These spells are cast by performing various gestures, and variations of 
these gestures using your mouse.

including a game tutorial that will let you practice the spells.

I also know of
Jeremy Kaldobsky's Aprone's Daytona and the Book of gold .
The metallic sounds are made as I move the mouse into different shapes. 
What is cool is that each direction you move makes a different noise so 
someone sitting beside you can actually tell which shape you drew once 
they've been exposed to the game for a bit!
The voice on the right is my character reading up to 3 shapes from the 
spell book that I must draw next. The voice to the left is just 
encouragement or warning depending on how fast and accurate I currently 
am.
Each successful shape, in the right order, conjures more [gold] coins that 
can be heard falling to the table. Each successful shape makes its own 
sound as it casts and a central voice announces its name.




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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Charles,
There is a Harry Potter Spells App.
Introducing the new Harry Potter: Spells - Free version - available now on 
the app store!
I don't know if it is accessible but think not as the tutorial just shows 
you the gestures to use for each spell.


Once enrolled, receive the wand destined for you before being Sorted into 
one of the four houses by the Sorting Hat. Then using specific hand gestures 
for each of the 20 spells, practice, practice, practice before experiencing 
the ultimate contest - Duelling!


Compete against the computer or challenge a friend to a real-time duel --  
player versus player, casting spells from one device to the other. Earn 
valuable house points for your house while learning, practicing and dueling. 
Visit the house points section to see your wins and losses in duelling. You 
can also see where you rank globally - in your house or in all of Hogwarts. 
Finally, share it with the rest of the world by posting it to your Facebook 
page via Facebook Connect.


http://harrypotterspellsapp.com/


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Bryan Peterson

Actually he said it can' still hear you, not it can smell you.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW


Of course, that was back in the days befor harry potter and the tremendous 
blood bath, aka the deathly hallows ;D.


When some deluded people stil considdered harry potter a kids book only.

One of the favourite moments for my friends and I from the hp films is the 
chamber of secrets, when you see the basillisk from the back and the 
phenix flying in, then here noises, when tom riddle then spouts that 
brilliant line:


your bird may have blinded the bassilisk  but it can smell you

Or rather your bird may have blinded the bassilisk, --- but we couldn't 
show it in a pg 12! ;d.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Bryan Peterson

I believe there's already an Ap for that.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Using gestures to cast spells makes me wonder if a version of the game 
could be made to be used on an iPhone.  Shaking the phone, tilting in any 
of the 4 directions left, right, forward or backward, moving your finger 
in particular patterns to perform functions, and other stuff like that are 
used on the touch sensitive screen, and, as a new and ongoing learning 
experience is showing me, certainly can be performed by a blind person.  I 
would think this would take an awful lot of work by the developer, but it 
would be cool for the gamer.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW



Hi Thomas,
I think I announced that the next version of the Sarah game would have 
mouse support.
Unfortunately, just as it's current joy stick support, the mouse can only 
use existing keyboard commands.

For example the forward, backwards and turning movement keys.
The left mouse button pulls up the spell menu and you can move thru it 
with the mouse and click on the right mouse button to cast the spell.
I was hoping that David could add more flexible mouse control, but that 
would require the game engine to record what the mouse was doing and 
compare the results in a group of variables.


I do like playing the wand game in,
Brian Bors' Three mouse driven games.
Gestures.
You are attacked by ogres and imps and must combat them with two spells.
These spells are cast by performing various gestures, and variations of 
these gestures using your mouse.

including a game tutorial that will let you practice the spells.

I also know of
Jeremy Kaldobsky's Aprone's Daytona and the Book of gold .
The metallic sounds are made as I move the mouse into different shapes. 
What is cool is that each direction you move makes a different noise so 
someone sitting beside you can actually tell which shape you drew once 
they've been exposed to the game for a bit!
The voice on the right is my character reading up to 3 shapes from the 
spell book that I must draw next. The voice to the left is just 
encouragement or warning depending on how fast and accurate I currently 
am.
Each successful shape, in the right order, conjures more [gold] coins 
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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Pitermach
man, if it only were vo accessible, might check it out tomorrow though I 
don't have my hopes up sadly.
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Hi Charles,
There is a Harry Potter Spells App.
Introducing the new Harry Potter: Spells - Free version - available now on 
the app store!
I don't know if it is accessible but think not as the tutorial just shows 
you the gestures to use for each spell.


Once enrolled, receive the wand destined for you before being Sorted into 
one of the four houses by the Sorting Hat. Then using specific hand 
gestures for each of the 20 spells, practice, practice, practice before 
experiencing the ultimate contest - Duelling!


Compete against the computer or challenge a friend to a real-time duel --  
player versus player, casting spells from one device to the other. Earn 
valuable house points for your house while learning, practicing and 
dueling. Visit the house points section to see your wins and losses in 
duelling. You can also see where you rank globally - in your house or in 
all of Hogwarts. Finally, share it with the rest of the world by posting 
it to your Facebook page via Facebook Connect.


http://harrypotterspellsapp.com/


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Arianna Sepulveda
Lol except Scolastic left in headmaster, lessons, and caretaker!

On 3/5/11, Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com wrote:
 man, if it only were vo accessible, might check it out tomorrow though I
 don't have my hopes up sadly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW


 Hi Charles,
 There is a Harry Potter Spells App.
 Introducing the new Harry Potter: Spells - Free version - available now on

 the app store!
 I don't know if it is accessible but think not as the tutorial just shows
 you the gestures to use for each spell.

 Once enrolled, receive the wand destined for you before being Sorted into
 one of the four houses by the Sorting Hat. Then using specific hand
 gestures for each of the 20 spells, practice, practice, practice before
 experiencing the ultimate contest - Duelling!

 Compete against the computer or challenge a friend to a real-time duel --

 player versus player, casting spells from one device to the other. Earn
 valuable house points for your house while learning, practicing and
 dueling. Visit the house points section to see your wins and losses in
 duelling. You can also see where you rank globally - in your house or in
 all of Hogwarts. Finally, share it with the rest of the world by posting
 it to your Facebook page via Facebook Connect.

 http://harrypotterspellsapp.com/


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Arianna Sepulveda
Dark,


They did keep in git, as well as headmaster, caretaker, and lessons,
strangely enough. And by the way, it's Sourcerers Stone over here, not
Philosopher's Stone. I really wish Jim Dale had read the U.K.
editions, or rather, that the U.S. ones didn't even get changed by
Scolastic in the first place. The reason we have Google is so we can
look stuff up, you gits. Or kids could go to their school or nearist
public library for God's sake! It really is stupid that this kind of
stuff happens. It makes me feel as if publishers think we're stupid or
something, or too lazy to research. Besides, it takes away the
authenticity of the characters and setting, in my oppinion. They're in
England, for God's sake, not America. Let them talk like it! Sorry,
rant over now.


Thanks,
Ari

On 3/5/11, Arianna Sepulveda englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lol except Scolastic left in headmaster, lessons, and caretaker!

 On 3/5/11, Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com wrote:
 man, if it only were vo accessible, might check it out tomorrow though I
 don't have my hopes up sadly.
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 Hi Charles,
 There is a Harry Potter Spells App.
 Introducing the new Harry Potter: Spells - Free version - available now
 on

 the app store!
 I don't know if it is accessible but think not as the tutorial just
 shows
 you the gestures to use for each spell.

 Once enrolled, receive the wand destined for you before being Sorted
 into
 one of the four houses by the Sorting Hat. Then using specific hand
 gestures for each of the 20 spells, practice, practice, practice before
 experiencing the ultimate contest - Duelling!

 Compete against the computer or challenge a friend to a real-time duel
 --

 player versus player, casting spells from one device to the other. Earn
 valuable house points for your house while learning, practicing and
 dueling. Visit the house points section to see your wins and losses in
 duelling. You can also see where you rank globally - in your house or in
 all of Hogwarts. Finally, share it with the rest of the world by posting
 it to your Facebook page via Facebook Connect.

 http://harrypotterspellsapp.com/


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Actually, from what I've read what happened is when Joanne Rowling
sold the rights for the first Harry Potter book to Scholastic they
were bound and determined to name the book Harry Potter and the School
of Magic. There was a furious argument between Joanne and the
publishers, and they eventually settled on a compromise. As it turned
out the title they agreed upon was Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's
Stone. Exactly why Scholastic insisted on a name change nobody really
knows, but apparently Scholastic felt that the original name of the
book was inappropriate for American children or some such non-sense.
Either way that's what I've heard, and explains why there are
esentually two different versions of the same books.

Cheers!


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 Oh, that's more dire than I thought, i just thought it was the usual
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 I'm surprised Jk didn't stop that one.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Bryan Peterson
I could be mistaken about this but it could be because Philosopher's Stone 
is used in some quarters as slang for Whisky. I know of an Irish drinking 
song that actually uses the term in that context.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Hi Dark,

Actually, from what I've read what happened is when Joanne Rowling
sold the rights for the first Harry Potter book to Scholastic they
were bound and determined to name the book Harry Potter and the School
of Magic. There was a furious argument between Joanne and the
publishers, and they eventually settled on a compromise. As it turned
out the title they agreed upon was Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's
Stone. Exactly why Scholastic insisted on a name change nobody really
knows, but apparently Scholastic felt that the original name of the
book was inappropriate for American children or some such non-sense.
Either way that's what I've heard, and explains why there are
esentually two different versions of the same books.

Cheers!


On 3/5/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Oh, that's more dire than I thought, i just thought it was the usual
hollywood idiocy.

I'm surprised Jk didn't stop that one.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,

Exactly. More to the point I was actually talking about the first
vidio game for the PC, Gameboy, etc which was also called Sorcerer's
Stone. Although, most Americans would know what I'm talking about if I
called it Philosopher’s Stone that is technically incorrect seeing as
the vidio game was called Sorcerer's Stone not Philosopher’s Stone. So
I don't know why anyone is making a big deal out of this. That's just
what it is called in the U.S.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Ben
As I said, I wasn't trying to.  I was just picking up on it.

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Hi Charles,

Exactly. More to the point I was actually talking about the first
vidio game for the PC, Gameboy, etc which was also called Sorcerer's
Stone. Although, most Americans would know what I'm talking about if I
called it Philosopher's Stone that is technically incorrect seeing as
the vidio game was called Sorcerer's Stone not Philosopher's Stone. So
I don't know why anyone is making a big deal out of this. That's just
what it is called in the U.S.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, I wouldn't say it is so much a matter of forgetting the rest of
the world exists, but more the fact we have a tendency of borrowing
ideas from other countries and somehow making it uniquely our own
thing. We do this with everything weather it is food, books, games,
you name it. Someone sees it and then comes back to the USA and comes
up with his or her own version of it. The idea is original enough but
the end result often turns out to be quite a bit different than the
original thing he/she was trying to copy.

For example, let's take the topic of pizza. During the late 1800's and
early 1900's I've heard there was a large amount of Italian imigrants
who came to New York City and many of them opened restaurants selling
Italian food. Perhaps the most popular was true Italian pizza. Unlike
the American version of pizza we have now these pizzas were square,
thin crust pizzas, baked in a brick oven, and were just sauce and
cheese. What we think of as New York style pizza today. However, pizza
became a very popular hit with New Yorkers and it wasn't long before
American restaurant owners started creating their own versions of
pizza, and it began to become popular all over the country. In very
quick order restaurants stopped making square pizzas and made them
round like a pie, and started experimenting with all sorts of toppings
and sauces. In Chicago one restaurant owner, I don't remember the guys
name, decided to make the worlds first deep dish pizza with a thick
crust and several layers of meet and cheese. This became known as
Chicago style pizza because it was first created in Chicago. Thus we
borrowed the idea of pizza from the Italian imigrants who came to New
York, setup shop, but American restaurant owners decided to take the
idea and make it something more uniquely American.

Same thing could be said for Mexican food. There are hundreds of
Mexican restaurants all over the country, but most of them don't
really sell original Mexican food. Instead it is Americanized Mexican
food. I have actually eaten some true Mexican food and I can say it
totally taistes nothing like Taco Bell or any of the other Mexican
restaurants that try and pass themselves off as Mexican. For one thing
different spices etc which totally changes the flavor of the food, and
I have eaten some true Mexican hot tamales so hot it felt like I
swallowed a blow torch. Fact of the matter is most Americans aren't
use to eating food quite that spicy and hot, and so the Taco Bell's of
the world make a plane facsimile of Mexican dishes with their name on
it.

Anyway, the point is as a culture we just take ideas, borrow them, and
somehow make them our own. Change them to suit our taistes or personal
likes/dislikes. This is obviously what happened to Harry Potter. It
was too British for the publishers and they wanted to Americanize it
to suit an American audience. In fact, I've read this was one reason
Harry Potter got a very slow start in the U.S. Harry Potter came close
to never being published at all, because it didn't fit in with the
kinds of childrens books that were being published at the time.

For example, before Harry Potter became a big name block buster
publishers didn't think they could sell it to an American audience.
They clamed that an orfened boy, growing up in a disfunctional house
hold, going off to boarding school  wasn't something that would be of
any interest to parents and children. To say nothing of the fact it
delt with magic which was being regarded as off limits in a childrens
book. To put it bluntly the kind of book Joanne Rowling was selling
was taboo for a lot of reasons.

Remember at the time Harry Potter came on the scene the dust was just
beginning to settle down after R. L. Stine's Goose Bumps series came
out in the early to mid 90's. The Christian right, as usual, were
suing schools, libraries, etc trying to get such books banned and/or
removed. The end result of the Christian rights' hell raising was that
publishers had decided to begin turning down books dealing with magic
and other themes dealing with the super natural. The only thing was
that Harry Potter was becoming so popular in England American
publishers had to take notice eventually. Scolastic paid eventually
paid something like $105,000 for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
which was unheard of for any childrens book before that. They believed
they had commited financial suicide, but within a year it would be on
the New York Times best seller list

So I guess what I'm saying here is that the entire Harry Potter series
got off on the wrong foot in the U.S. to begin with. There were so
many misconceptions, fears, and worries that it wouldn't sell that
they did everything possible to market it to an American audience. By
doing so Americans do what they always do we take something and make
it our own even if our version isn't exactly like the original
version.

Cheers!


On 3/5/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Selecting American English? 

Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Muhammed,

I honestly don't remember. Its not like I played them often. They
aren't exactly accessible. Although, my son is trying out Lego Harry
Potter for the Wii now, and I find it not as good as some of the other
Potter games. Kind of lame if you ask me.

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 How do you do stupify in the harry potter games?

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Bryan Peterson
You're definitely right about the Mexican food thing Thomas. When my brother 
was married, now almost three years ago, the food at the wedding was 
authentic Mexican. My grandma complained outrageously about that. LOL. My 
wife, though born in America, has a strong Hispanic connection since her 
folks have both Mexican and Spanish ancestry.

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW



Hi Dark,

Well, I wouldn't say it is so much a matter of forgetting the rest of
the world exists, but more the fact we have a tendency of borrowing
ideas from other countries and somehow making it uniquely our own
thing. We do this with everything weather it is food, books, games,
you name it. Someone sees it and then comes back to the USA and comes
up with his or her own version of it. The idea is original enough but
the end result often turns out to be quite a bit different than the
original thing he/she was trying to copy.

For example, let's take the topic of pizza. During the late 1800's and
early 1900's I've heard there was a large amount of Italian imigrants
who came to New York City and many of them opened restaurants selling
Italian food. Perhaps the most popular was true Italian pizza. Unlike
the American version of pizza we have now these pizzas were square,
thin crust pizzas, baked in a brick oven, and were just sauce and
cheese. What we think of as New York style pizza today. However, pizza
became a very popular hit with New Yorkers and it wasn't long before
American restaurant owners started creating their own versions of
pizza, and it began to become popular all over the country. In very
quick order restaurants stopped making square pizzas and made them
round like a pie, and started experimenting with all sorts of toppings
and sauces. In Chicago one restaurant owner, I don't remember the guys
name, decided to make the worlds first deep dish pizza with a thick
crust and several layers of meet and cheese. This became known as
Chicago style pizza because it was first created in Chicago. Thus we
borrowed the idea of pizza from the Italian imigrants who came to New
York, setup shop, but American restaurant owners decided to take the
idea and make it something more uniquely American.

Same thing could be said for Mexican food. There are hundreds of
Mexican restaurants all over the country, but most of them don't
really sell original Mexican food. Instead it is Americanized Mexican
food. I have actually eaten some true Mexican food and I can say it
totally taistes nothing like Taco Bell or any of the other Mexican
restaurants that try and pass themselves off as Mexican. For one thing
different spices etc which totally changes the flavor of the food, and
I have eaten some true Mexican hot tamales so hot it felt like I
swallowed a blow torch. Fact of the matter is most Americans aren't
use to eating food quite that spicy and hot, and so the Taco Bell's of
the world make a plane facsimile of Mexican dishes with their name on
it.

Anyway, the point is as a culture we just take ideas, borrow them, and
somehow make them our own. Change them to suit our taistes or personal
likes/dislikes. This is obviously what happened to Harry Potter. It
was too British for the publishers and they wanted to Americanize it
to suit an American audience. In fact, I've read this was one reason
Harry Potter got a very slow start in the U.S. Harry Potter came close
to never being published at all, because it didn't fit in with the
kinds of childrens books that were being published at the time.

For example, before Harry Potter became a big name block buster
publishers didn't think they could sell it to an American audience.
They clamed that an orfened boy, growing up in a disfunctional house
hold, going off to boarding school  wasn't something that would be of
any interest to parents and children. To say nothing of the fact it
delt with magic which was being regarded as off limits in a childrens
book. To put it bluntly the kind of book Joanne Rowling was selling
was taboo for a lot of reasons.

Remember at the time Harry Potter came on the scene the dust was just
beginning to settle down after R. L. Stine's Goose Bumps series came
out in the early to mid 90's. The Christian right, as usual, were
suing schools, libraries, etc trying to get such books banned and/or
removed. The end result of the Christian rights' hell raising was that
publishers had decided to begin turning down books dealing with magic
and other themes dealing with the super natural. The only thing was
that Harry Potter was becoming so popular in England American
publishers had to take notice eventually. Scolastic paid eventually
paid something like $105,000 for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
which was unheard of for any childrens book before that. They believed
they had

Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,

I see. Well, if you ever want to port Sarah to BGT or perhaps Genesis
3D let me know off list. I'd love to help you port it to something
else. While the GMA Engine is nice for what it does it really is too
restrictive for a game like Sarah. There are a number of things I
always thought could have been done better, and there still are little
bugs that pop up. I often still get the bug where Sarah starts and she
can't move, and i have to restart the game again to have it load
correctly. While I love the game such miner bugs get to be annoying to
say the least.

Anyway, I know about the hot keys for the quick spell menu, but still
I find it a tad bit slow. Perhaps asigning a spell to a number like 1
through 0 might help. You could select the default spell and then use
spacebar to cast it. That way you could have stupify or something like
that at the ready when entering an unexplored room.

Cheers!


On 3/5/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,
 This is why I wish I had written the Sarah game myself instead of using
 David's engine.
 I proposed several ways of casting spells, but the game engine is not
 capable of doing them.
 He is working on mouse support right now and it does sound like it would
 work well with the game.
 I do now have hot key support inside the spell menu.
 For example, control s brings up a quick menu and then you can hit u to cast
 the unlocking spell.
 There is a keystroke ini file that allows you to change the quick spell menu
 from control s to just s, which would make casting even faster.
 Phil

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-04 Thread Ben
By the way tom.  Not meaning to be picky... but in the uk, its philosopher's
stone - it just, no offence meant, seemed a bit weird you calling it by that
name... but that's just me.  Don't take it personally.


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Subject: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

Hi Phil and all,

Tonight I was sitting back playing a game of Sarah when I realised
there is a feature I'd really love to se added to the game at some
point. I don't know how many of you have ever played some of the Harry
Potter PC games, but in many of them you have to use the mouse to cast
spells. For example, in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone to cast
the Flipendo spell you have to move the mouse right, down, and then
quickly up again. Then, click the left mouse button to cast the spell.
For one thing it is visually pretty cool because Harry follows your
wand movements on screen, but more than that it makes the games a bit
more challenging because you actually have to learn and remember how
to do each and every spell in the game. I was wondering if this could
be a possible addition to Sarah at some point?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW

2011-03-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ben,

Yes, I know. You can blame the naming issue on Scholastic. For reasons
no one will ever understand, including J. K. Rowling herself,
Scholastic insisted that the name be changed for the U.S. market even
though it was being marketed in the U.K. by Bloomsberry  as Harry
Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. As you might have guessed the
movies, games, toys,  etc followed the patern. In the U.S. it was
named one thing and in the U.K. another. Its not something we can do
anything about, and I've gotten use to calling it by both names.

At any rate you might be surprised I have a complete copy of the Harry
Potter books published by Bloomsberry instead of Scholastic for that
very reason.  Scholastic basically took the books, heavily  edited
them, and made it easier to follow by an American audience by changing
the names of things when and where necessary. I didn't really like it,
because they changed the story a little too much in my opinion.

For example, in Chamber of Secrets when discussing the Ford Anglia the
U.K. version uses English names for things like the boot and  bonnet
of the car.  In the American release they use trunk and hood instead.
Instead of using toilet they inserted the word bath room. These are
relatively miner changes, but I personally like reading it exactly as
J. K. Rowling wrote it instead of reading it second hand after some
American editor got done changing this and that to fit their idea of
how the book should read. So, yeah, I agree if you read the U.K.
versionand then the U.S. version it seams quite strange to see how
much difference there is over all.

Cheers!




On 3/5/11, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote:
 By the way tom.  Not meaning to be picky... but in the uk, its philosopher's
 stone - it just, no offence meant, seemed a bit weird you calling it by that
 name... but that's just me.  Don't take it personally.



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