Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS since version 7 doesn't read pages with frames
There must be something going on within that webpage other than frames to make it inaccessible. I have written WebPages that have had both standard and in line frames that are 100% accessible. Thos pages have worked on every version of JAWS I have had from 4.7 to 11. There are some experts that say using frames is a bad design choice. I agree that frames were and still are greatly abused, especially to steal content. Used sparingly and wisely, I see nothing inherently wrong with frames. Don Marang -- From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS since version 7 doesn't read pages with frames Hi, Which version of what browser are you using? According to JAWS11 which I'm using with Internet Explorer 8, there are two frames. It appears to read both of them, and the second frame appears to contain the links to content on the site; and the links to there seem to work also. (Many of the links have the same or similar names or labels. I don't know if this is an authorial matter.) There are 159 links, and they are all 'spoken'. I can't recall another particular multi-frame page at the moment; but can recall that JAWS11 (and 10, and versions prior, in my experience) do go on to speak other frames when they are encountered in a page. - Original Message - From: Sérgio Neves sergioneve...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS since version 7 doesn't read pages with frames Hi, JAWS for windows has problems reading pages with frames, since version 7 to at least version 10. If you go to page http://www.enfis.it/cue-splitter-tutorial/, you'll see that these versions of JAWS only read the first frame. It means they don't read the content of the page. This happens in many more web pages that use frames. Is there any workaround to this problem? Note that JAWS 6.20 read these pages correctly, but it's an older version. Thanks. Best regards, Sérgio Neves For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Yahoo Groups Page Won't Load Properly With Firefox
Have you attempted to refresh the page buffers within JAWS by pressing Insert + Escape? Perhaps the Yahoo page updates later and JAWS did not notice. Don Marang -- From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Yahoo Groups Page Won't Load Properly With Firefox I'm not sure whether this probelm is JAWS related or not, but here goes. When I attempt to access www.groups.yahoo.com using Firefox 3.6.8 with JAWS 9, Jaws announces the number of headings, links etc. as the page is loading, but once the page has completely loaded,all the objects on it seem to vanish and the only thing JAWS recognizes is the title; all the headings, links buttons and edit fields are gone. Then when I attempt to return to my Google home page, it, too, is devoid of any headings, links or edit fields. The only way to restore my home page to normal is to close Firefox and restart it. But when I try to access the Yahoo page again, the same thing happens: the page loads but all of its objects seem to disappear. I do not encounter this problem with IE 8, nor with any other web sites. This problem seems to be unique to Yahoo.com. Does anyone have a clue why this page won't load properly with Firefox? Any feedback appreciated. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws curser not reading properly
I assume that when installing the video driver that you first visited the manufacturer's website to see if you had the latest driver? Getting the very latest driver has fixed this type of problem for me before. Don Marang -- From: austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:15 AM To: accessin...@accessindia.org.in; Freedom Scientific Technical Support supp...@freedomscientific.com; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; Freedom Scientific Technical Support s...@freedomscientific.com; Voice Vision. l...@voicevision.in; jaws...@freelists.org Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws curser not reading properly hi i just reinstalled windows xp and installed video card driver also and freedom scientific vidio intersept but stil jaws curser doesnt read things properly for example if i want to read properties of a file and activate jaws curser it reads file size: date modified: ect but doesnt read file size and date modified what to do -- from austin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix online streaming accessibility and jfw?
I could not figure out a way to use any of the control buttons in Internet Explorer. This is because it uses Silverlight, which is not very accessible. I called Netflix a while back and they verified this and said they were working on this. They also said if you closed the browser to stop the movie before it was over, it would remember your place if you started it up again. For a blind person, the only way to get back to the beginning would be to continue to the end of the movie and start again! I have not tried this yetn but I recently heard that Netflix can now ve streamed to Media Center as well as Internet Explorer. Thhis should allow the normal Media Center Playback and Volume controls to work on Netflix movies! Movies streamed to Media Center will also be High Definition. In Netflix terms, this is 720 pixels high. Don Marang -- From: mark Torgerson torgersonena...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix online streaming accessibility and jfw? Hi I have successfully watched several movies and TV programs on Net Flix. The thing is that to change the volume of the program one raises or lowers the volume for your web browser. I haven't been able to make any sense of the buttons in the player. The good news is that if you use alt f4 and exit the player during a program, it picks up where you left off the next time you play it. Rewind, well, I never figured that part out. I hope this helps. God bless, Mark For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Does anyone know of a shareware program to Backupaexternal drive?
I can vouch that Karen's Replicator works equally well in Vista and Windows 7. I have used it for years to make a copy of all my data folders to another computer in the house. When I was writing JAWS scripts, I would also make a copy of the JAWS user folder and place it in my Documents folder. That saved me several times. I also started using tags so it can automatically keep an archive of my Finance folder, so that I can go back to a particular month and year and get a copy of my files as they were on the end of that month. Additionally, my daughter used to use the Open Source gimp editor and a few times lost whole projects due to strange crashes. I set up Karen's Replicator to backup and archive her drawing folder so it would make a copy every 15 minutes and allow you to go back in the archives to a particular day and hour in the last month. Surprisingly, the software never crashed after that, preventing her from turning in her Art assignments! I guess I need to set up a similar backup for her on her new Mac Pro at College. It is a very easy, yet powerful tool that quietly works in the background and never impacts performance. Don Marang -- From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does anyone know of a shareware program to Backupaexternal drive? Hi Scott, http://www.blind-computing.com/file_utilities/pages/karen's_replicator.html You didn't say which version of Windows you are using, but this works from Win95 thru XP, I haven't tried it on Vista or Win7 yet. It is completely free and accessible with Jaws. I've been using it for about 9 years with no problems. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Scott Meyer scottt.me...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Does anyone know of a shareware program to Backup aexternal drive? Hi Purchased a external drive and did initial backup, what I need is a backup utility friendly to Jaws that will look at date and time so it will only backup's the files that havechange Thanks for any help. Regards Scott. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I go back to internet explorer 6?
I do not recommend going back to InternetExplorer 6 just because it is such a security nightmare! What version of Windows are you using? If you are running Windows 7, you are stuck with IE 8. If you are running XP or Vista, there should be a Internet Explorer 8 in the Add/Remove Control Panel in XP or the Program and Features Control Panel in Vista. Uninstalling IE 8 should take you back to whatever version you were using just before upgrrading to IE 8. If it takes you back to IE 6, please do yourself a favor and upgrade to IE 7. Don Marang -- From: Scott Meyer scottt.me...@verizon.net Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How do I go back to internet explorer 6? Hi Tried internet explorer 8 and would like to go back to 6 , how do I do that Regards Scott For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question
Moving to 64 bit does not necessarily increase the performance of the computer over 32 bit. Even on tasks where manipulating large chunks of data like video editing and transcoding will only be faster if the software is designed to take advantage of the 64 bit architecture and multiple cores / hyper threading. Frankly, multiple cores and hyper threading, which is used in the new I5 or I7 processors, currently provide a bigger performance boost. Keep in mind, that most applications and people work with characters, which do not require 64 bits of information. A 64 bit Operating System is absolutely necessary to use more than 4 GB of RAM memory. This is the prime reason to go to 64 bit Windows 7 right now. I am currently not using a 64 bit edition of Windows 7, so I can not yet speak from experience. Generally, you are right about being able to run most 32 bit applications on a 64 bit edition of Windows 7. I understand there are still some applications that have compatibility issues. Mostly these are older applications. I heard that for some bizarre reason, the Adobe Flash Player plug-inn for Internet Explorer is not available that runs in the 64 bit edition of Internet Explorer, so you must use the 32 bit edition of Internet Explorer to view pages with Flash! It seems that on a 64 bit edition of Windows 7, there are 2 different editions of Internet Explorer. I do not understand how the typical user is supposed to know which to use with which sites. Someone let me know if this is no longer the case. It would be shocking if Adobe could not deliver a 64 bit version ofFlash by now! One big exception to the highway analogy is any type of software or hardware drivers that are required to communicate with the hardware. Even though Microsoft and Intel heavily push for switching to 64 bit systems, not all hardware manufacturer's are as excited and have not provided the necessary drivers. I imagine the Real Speak voices or at least their interface to SAPI5 would need to have a 64 bit specific version. I guess looking back to the highway analogy it is more like driving an extra wide tractor trailer down a 4 lane busy road with commercial entrances to McDonalds... directly feeding onto the road. To get to higher speeds it would take major work and build service roads / ramps to bring it up to Interstate standards. Microsoft is attempting to improve their architecture, but without dropping support for legacy (older software), this is almost impossible. Don Marang -- From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question If you have a JAWS8 CD, you could try installing the unlocked SAPI5 and RealSpeak voices from it. there's also a problem with 32-bit braille drivers, probably related to what you have so far found. - Original Message - From: Chris Gilland cgilla...@carolina.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Real Speak voices question OK, before anyone asks, let me throw this ball out of the way first. Yes, I am aware of the solo direct voices. I know also how to install 'em, but that isn't the point, in this case. I am trying to install my sapi 5 version of the Ral Speak voices. I not only wanna be able to use these with jfw, but I got some other programs like Speak-on, as well as K1000, Kitchen's Inc games, etc. which are self voicing that I wanna use them with. I can't do that with the solo direct voices as they use their own propriatary module/driver/dll libraries. Bottom line, it won't work. Anyway, so here is my question to you pc geeks out there like myself. I just got an hp laptop last Wednesday. It's running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Edition. So my question is, when I ran the installer for the real speak voices, it said they'd not run on a 64 bit OS. So, having said that, this leads me to actually two questions. The first question which probably is the obvious is: is there a way to get around this, so that I can install the sapi version, and if not, can I get a 64 bit version from fs of the old sapi formatted installer. My second question is, maybe I'm completely all wet here, but I was under the impression that anything 32 bit architect would run on a 64 bit OS. Now, granted, I know for a fact! you can't run a 64 bit OS on a 32 bit only capable motherboard, nor, can you run x64 programs on a 32 bit OS. That's obvious. But I thought the annalogy worked like this: Say you have a 4 lane highway. OK, you may wind up only driving down 2! of those lanes, but, the point is, you can! do it. You're not taking over the whole highway, but, you're still able to drive down it. I hear 64 bit worked much the same way. You can! run 64 bit apps, or! 32 bit apps on 64 bit architect, but, on
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari
There is an edition of Safari available to run in Windows. I have not attempted to install or use it lately, but the last time I did, it was completely inaccessible. Perhaps you will notice that every time there is an update for iTunes or QuickTime, it will keep nagging you to download Safari as well. Don Marang -- From: Ishe Chinyoka chinyoka.consult...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari Safari is a native Mac browser, and unless you are running it in virtual machine, I doubt that JAWS supports Safari at the moment. - Original Message - From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Safari does anyone know tha the Safari web browser can use with Jaws? thanks Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading my Windows program
Keep in mind that Freedom Scientific will charge more for JAWS for use in Windows 7 Pro than it does for Windows 7 Home Premium. I think Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade packages range from about $100 to $125. I have heard that Microsoft is again offering a family 3 pack for $150. A good deal if your family has more than one computer. I guess this could be used with two other friends as well. It comes with one set of disks and three license product keys. I do not know how much an upgrade to Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate would be. Don Marang -- From: Francis E. Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:22 PM To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading my Windows program At this time I am using Windows XP Home with Service Pack 3 and from what I am hearing it might be in order to upgrade to an upgrade. What will it cost me to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Pro? And are there any tutorials I can download to study? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] computer requirements
Just a few comments to consider. I used to tfavor AMD for a long time as well. They used to provide more bang for the buck! Unfortunately, they have fallen far behind Intel in processor development and currently are not even competitive in price or performance. It may eeven be hard to find an AMD sysyem right now. I hope they catch up soon and provide competition again. If you are looking for performance, stay away from NetBooks, which are attractively inexpensive, but have limited performance. I think most users would prefer Windows 7 Home Premium. Starter has arbitrary limitations to make it slightly cheaper and Professional and above editions would require a Pro version of JAWS. Unless you know that you need one of the few additional features of Professional or Ultimate, stick with Home Premium. If you are not planning on using more than 4 GB of RAM, there is no technical reason to get a 64 bit edition of Windows 7. All hardware available today, except NetBooks, will be 64 bit capable. However, as much as Microsoft and the retailers push systems with 64 bit Windows 7, not all software is ready. There are still compatibility issues with some software and especially hardware drivers. If you have older peripherals, such as an old printer or scanner, this could be a problem. If you want more than 4 GB of RAM, you have no choice, 64 bit Windows 7 is required. Have fun with your new laptop! Don Marang -- From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:15 AM To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] computer requirements I am still on the quest fora new computer. I think that I know what I want in the system to make it best for jaws. 1. case - I think that I want a front earphone jack that will automatically cut off the regular speaker when needed. 2. processor - I have always been partial to AMD. 3. memory 3 or 4 gb. 5. duel sound cards one dedicated to jaws. 6. dual hard drives 360 gb main and 180 gb backup. Right now I am using a 40 gb and is about 75 percent full. 7. dvd drive that can burn double layer preferably without lightscribe. 8. Win 7 64 bit. 9 Not sure what email client, thinking of outlook 2007 as opposed to live. I saw some concerns on outlook 2010 on the net. Am I missing anything? To cut down on list traffic you can write to me at lmch...@verizon.net . --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] computer requirements
The big difference there was that moving from 16 bit to 32 bit had many much needed technical advantages and performance improvements. Intel and Microsoft are pushing 64 bit hard. In this case, bigger is nort necessarily better! There is the important improvement that if you want more than 4 GB (which I wish I had), a 64 bit Operating System is required. I even hear from tech journalists that some things will actually be slower on a system with a 64 bit edition of Windows 7! Don Marang -- From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer requirements Thanks, this is a desk top and I do want home premimum. I did not know that about amd thanks.I really do not need 64 bit but did not want to fall in the same old problem going from 16 to 32 bit. In a short while there was nothing being created for 16 bit. - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer requirements Just a few comments to consider. I used to tfavor AMD for a long time as well. They used to provide more bang for the buck! Unfortunately, they have fallen far behind Intel in processor development and currently are not even competitive in price or performance. It may eeven be hard to find an AMD sysyem right now. I hope they catch up soon and provide competition again. If you are looking for performance, stay away from NetBooks, which are attractively inexpensive, but have limited performance. I think most users would prefer Windows 7 Home Premium. Starter has arbitrary limitations to make it slightly cheaper and Professional and above editions would require a Pro version of JAWS. Unless you know that you need one of the few additional features of Professional or Ultimate, stick with Home Premium. If you are not planning on using more than 4 GB of RAM, there is no technical reason to get a 64 bit edition of Windows 7. All hardware available today, except NetBooks, will be 64 bit capable. However, as much as Microsoft and the retailers push systems with 64 bit Windows 7, not all software is ready. There are still compatibility issues with some software and especially hardware drivers. If you have older peripherals, such as an old printer or scanner, this could be a problem. If you want more than 4 GB of RAM, you have no choice, 64 bit Windows 7 is required. Have fun with your new laptop! Don Marang -- From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:15 AM To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] computer requirements I am still on the quest fora new computer. I think that I know what I want in the system to make it best for jaws. 1. case - I think that I want a front earphone jack that will automatically cut off the regular speaker when needed. 2. processor - I have always been partial to AMD. 3. memory 3 or 4 gb. 5. duel sound cards one dedicated to jaws. 6. dual hard drives 360 gb main and 180 gb backup. Right now I am using a 40 gb and is about 75 percent full. 7. dvd drive that can burn double layer preferably without lightscribe. 8. Win 7 64 bit. 9 Not sure what email client, thinking of outlook 2007 as opposed to live. I saw some concerns on outlook 2010 on the net. Am I missing anything? To cut down on list traffic you can write to me at lmch...@verizon.net . --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update, and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes.
This usually does fix the problem for me. Yes, I do sometimes get this happening with JAWS 11. I try a few other things first. My first attempt is to press Control + Home to get to the top of the message, then Insert + Escape to refresh the page, Then once again Control + Home to make sure it is at the top of the message, finally Insert + DownArrow to perform a SayAll. This works about 80% of the time for me. If that fails, pressing Tab once will place the focus in one of the header fields. Then I keep pressing Tab until I get to the message body. Then I can again use the Insert + Escape, Control + Home, Insert + DownArrow to start reading again. Even more annoying and non-productive is that occasionally I get into a situation where when attempting to reply to a message, it acts like it is working correctly and entering the typed text into the message body. However, no characters are placed in the message body! I have no idea how to get around this! Even restarting JAWS does not fix this issue. I have had to reboot or use NVDA! All of these problems go away for me if I delete all of the scripts in my user directory! Even placing the deprecated AnyTime Deluxe scripts that used to be part of earlier versions of JAWS will make these majorly annoying issues happen for me. JAWS 10 works well for me and no longer shows any issues. Freedom Scientific thinks all of the issues are that my Windows user profile is corrupted, so I need to delete and recreate my account or reinstall Windows. I do not have the time or patience to attempt this at this time just to use JAWS 11. I recently installed Thunderbird and am currently getting adjusted to it. I have not yet figured out how to import all of my saved Windows Live Mail messages into Thunderbird. Don Marang -- From: Mike Barbara Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update,and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes. Hi Jim; Have you tried unloading and restarting Jaws when this happens? I know this is not a fix but, I'm just curious if doing this will help. I have encountered times that when I open an email Jaws reads nothing and unloading / reloading Jaws will stop the issue for the time being, anyway. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:07 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update, and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes. Hi all, I am running windows 7 and jaws 11, latest update, on a 64 bit machine. Lately, when I open an email in windows live mail, Jaws says, contains one link, and then nothing. I try the jaws curser, and still nothing. In earlier versions of jaws 11, it would read messages at least. How can I get an earlier version of jaws to install? It keeps saying, when I try to do that, that an earlier version of this product is installed, and this version cannot be installed. I'm trying to roll back to jaws 11.1134. I've written to FS, and they say they are working on the problem. That's great, but I'd like to read my email now. smile. thanks for your help. Jim. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] MS essentials
I think you might be experiencing a problen with Windows Update where it gets stuck and can not finish the update. This is fairly common. Common is probably the wrong term because Windows Update workks flawlessly for a huge majority of the time for an extremely huge number of users. However, it does happen often enough that Microsoft has posted a tech note for how to clean this out and reset the update. I do not remember the exact URL, but I recommend going to support.microsoft.com and searching for stuck Windows Update for the article. Don Marang -- From: George Marshall marshall.geo...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] MS essentials Hi Guys: I need some help with this, for the last two or three weeks I have not been able to upgrade and I am prompted several times a day to upgrade. I have tried turning off the fire wall, closing all programs with end it all but nothing works. I am using XP SP3, 1gb memory, latest JAWS 11 I am sending the message I get from Microsoft: graphic 37 Automatic Updates graphic 412 graphic 447 Some updates could not be installed The following updates were not installed: Microsoft Security Essentials Client update package - KB2254596 graphic 542 graphic 470 graphic 107 graphic 542 Configure automatic updates Close Thanks, George R. Marshall marshall.geo...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update, and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes.
Issues with JAWS 11 is not my only motivation to switch to Thunderbird. I also like that it is Open Source, the messages are stored in an open, text format and it is cross platform! I am starting to do a lot of work inside Vinux and would like to attempt to read mail from there as well. . Don Marang -- From: Øyvind Lode oyvind.l...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update,and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes. Thunderbird is a very good choice! Personally I still prefer Outlook. I'm currently using Outlook 2007, but I'm going to upgrade to Outlook/office 2010 very soon. So I'd say: drop Windows Live Mail! :) -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: 13. juli 2010 16:31 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update, and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes. This usually does fix the problem for me. Yes, I do sometimes get this happening with JAWS 11. I try a few other things first. My first attempt is to press Control + Home to get to the top of the message, then Insert + Escape to refresh the page, Then once again Control + Home to make sure it is at the top of the message, finally Insert + DownArrow to perform a SayAll. This works about 80% of the time for me. If that fails, pressing Tab once will place the focus in one of the header fields. Then I keep pressing Tab until I get to the message body. Then I can again use the Insert + Escape, Control + Home, Insert + DownArrow to start reading again. Even more annoying and non-productive is that occasionally I get into a situation where when attempting to reply to a message, it acts like it is working correctly and entering the typed text into the message body. However, no characters are placed in the message body! I have no idea how to get around this! Even restarting JAWS does not fix this issue. I have had to reboot or use NVDA! All of these problems go away for me if I delete all of the scripts in my user directory! Even placing the deprecated AnyTime Deluxe scripts that used to be part of earlier versions of JAWS will make these majorly annoying issues happen for me. JAWS 10 works well for me and no longer shows any issues. Freedom Scientific thinks all of the issues are that my Windows user profile is corrupted, so I need to delete and recreate my account or reinstall Windows. I do not have the time or patience to attempt this at this time just to use JAWS 11. I recently installed Thunderbird and am currently getting adjusted to it. I have not yet figured out how to import all of my saved Windows Live Mail messages into Thunderbird. Don Marang -- From: Mike Barbara Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update,and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes. Hi Jim; Have you tried unloading and restarting Jaws when this happens? I know this is not a fix but, I'm just curious if doing this will help. I have encountered times that when I open an email Jaws reads nothing and unloading / reloading Jaws will stop the issue for the time being, anyway. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Rawls jazzpi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:07 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Having real problems with jaws 11, latest update, and windows live mail. it won't read messages sometimes. Hi all, I am running windows 7 and jaws 11, latest update, on a 64 bit machine. Lately, when I open an email in windows live mail, Jaws says, contains one link, and then nothing. I try the jaws curser, and still nothing. In earlier versions of jaws 11, it would read messages at least. How can I get an earlier version of jaws to install? It keeps saying, when I try to do that, that an earlier version of this product is installed, and this version cannot be installed. I'm trying to roll back to jaws 11.1134. I've written to FS, and they say they are working on the problem. That's great, but I'd like to read my email now. smile. thanks for your help. Jim. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set jaws speed for various applications
Not that I know of. It is possible to set as many different Voice Profiles as you want and then switch between them on the fly. To change Voice Profiles just press the JAWS key (Insert on Desktop, CapsLock on laptop) + Alt + S, then select from the list. If you create a special profile for a certain website, you could manually switch after going to that site. Don Marang -- From: Tatyana tagr...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set jaws speed for various applications Hello Mo, thank you very much- I did it. I don't know why I didn't find it before. Now I'm thinking what I'll do to set different speeds for let's say different web- sites, not for only the Internet explorer itself, Ha- Ha I guess it's too much and JAWS doesn't have such an option but may be I'm wrong and it's possible. Please let me know if you find it. Thanks again. Tatyana. - Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set jaws speed for various applications Hello. I have just confirmed, the following works with my version of jaws, please let me know if this solves your problem. First, open your application, in this example i opened notepad. Next, alt tab to the jaws window. Press alt O to go to the options menu, then go down to voices, then in to global voice adjustment and press enter. Go up and down with your arrows, if you press your down arrow once, jaws should say modify application then the name of what ever you have open, in my example jaws said modify application notepad, then if i scroled down again it said modify default. Then, tab and set the options that you would like jaws to use e.g the rate, voice etc. Then tab to ok, and that should be all you need to do! Many Thanks, Mo. Tatyana wrote: Hi I have JAWS 10 and Windows xp. I didn't find list of applications under Individual voice adjustments menu. Changes always effect all applications. I also tried to open configuration manager above some applications and didn't find it there too. Tatyana. - Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set jaws speed for various applications Hi. Unfortunately, they've changed this in jaws 11. in jaws 10 or earlier, alt o for options, then down to voice settings, then individual voice adjustment or you can do global voice adjustment i think. then you arrow up and down to select application specific then adjust the rate for windows explorer, make sure windows explorer is running when you do this. it may also be in global voice settings. In jaws 11, you press alt o for options, then down to voices, then go in to voice adjustment. adjust how fast or slow you want jaws to be, then save it as a new profile, you should be prompted to do this when clicking on save as. once you've done this, go back in to the options menu, then to voices, then to select profile. do this again while windows explorer is running. you will be given a combo box for the application you want to adjust, select windows explorer then tab to the profile box, then click on the one you saved earlier. I hope this helps. Mo. Tatyana wrote: Hello all, I can't find the way how to set certain level of JAWS speed for various applications. I'd like JAWS speaking fast when I browse folders and files on my computer, but from other hand I'd like it speak slower when I'm reading e- mails, for example. I know I can change the speed on the fly but it's quite annoying when I lose the setting just right when I escape the program. Thanks for your help. Tatyana. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
This happens more often when scanning, could those pages be flipped upside down? Most OCR software is also more sensitive to certain fonts and font sizes. Very small fonts can be particularly difficult to get meaningful results. Don Marang -- From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Just a thought. Is the jibberish another language? I've notice that sometimes the text on one side of a page is english and on the facing page it is french, spanish or japanese. At 07:23 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: Thanks for this great tip. I had no idea OB could translate PDF documents that Adobe can't handle into speech. I tried it on a PDF instruction manual for a talking forehead thermometer I just ordered, and for the most part OB successfully converted it into a readable format. However, some of the pages translated into gibberish. Is there any way to clean this up to make it more intelligible? Thanks. Gerald - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Tv website and selecting program on grid.
Are you sure that pressing Space or Enter on the Show title does nothing? In my experience with the site, I have found that the show details and the recording option appear after all of the shows displayed for that channel. I also find that when activating these 'links' that the ffocus will bounce around, usually slightly higher on the page. After reviewing the show details, there will be 'link' to record. Again activating will change focus. The recording options, DVR choice (if more than one), and priority will be below the details. I have avoided using the main DirecTV TV guide pages ever since they removed the capability to customize the channel line up. Browsing through thousands of channels that I am not interested in is not my idea of efficient! I prefer to use a separate on line TV Guide, TitanTV.com. It is very customizable! It uses a true HTML tavle for the grid and allows viewing 6 hours at a time. To schedule recordings, I use the DirecTV mobile website, m.directv.com. It is very simple and uncluttered. Even though it is designed for mobile phones, it works very well on a PC as well. I have two R22 DVRs in our house. I have written a Word document describing the remote and it's functions. I have also written JAWS scripts to aid in the viewing the TV Guide and the recording processes. Basically, they make moving around the grid easier and will launch the mobile DVR Scheduler website, log in, and search for the show you were looking at in the grid with a single key combination. For more information and to download the Word document or scripts, go to: http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/DirecTV.html There are some scripts for the DirecTV2PC application also in this package. These are not very useful at this time. The DirecTV2PC application is still in beta, but does not work very well for blind users. The application runs on a PC in your home and allows you to view the list of recorded shows and watch on your PC. Unfortunately, the My Playlist is designed to look and feel just like the on screen version on your TV. It is just as inaccessible! The original beta software allowed watching the show/movie. Again, CyberLink, who wrote this software for DirecTV, dealt a blow to the blind and visually impaired community. Later versions of the software improved security from pirates stealing movies. Even if JAWS is installed on your computer, the software blocks you from watching. It thinks there are no reasons anybody would have a shadow display driver unless you are attempting to steal the movie! The DirecTV2PC software is slightly useful for me, since I still have some vision in my right eye. JAWS can not read the list of recorded shows, but magnification still can help and the resolution is much better than a SD TV. If I put my nose against my computer screen, I can barely make out the shows in the list. I then know how many times to press the down arrowon the remote, so I can open folders and start shows with the 'Select' button. I hope to someday improve the accessibility of this DVR even more! Don Marang -- From: Scott Meyer scottt.me...@verizon.net Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Tv website and selecting program on grid. Hi I use to be able to go to direct TV website and select a program to record on my DVR . now I go to the program I want and it says clickable but I can't figure how to select it, space bar and enter does not work. tried application menu with no luck. PC cursor does not help either any Ideas? Regards Scott For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML and inserted information
Perhaps the page has been updated without JAWS realizing it. On my bank's site this happens when I hit the pay button. Pressing Insert (CapsLock for laptop layout) + Escape refreshes the JAWS buffer and it can then read it to me. Don Marang -- From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:31 PM To: jaws users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML and inserted information Aloha all, Some time back I mentioned that I was having trouble reading parts of my online banking service screens. Here's the issue. The information on the page is html. However, when a person adds information such as the name of a company that they want to pay, JAWS only reads the part that is html. I have contacted the bank but in the meantime, is there perhaps something I should change in my settings that might make it work better? I am told that when I click on the make payments screen, all of my payees are shown on the screen, but when I arrow around, I only hear the items that were originally on the page and none of the things that were added. I would tell you what my settings are now, but honestly not sure what to tell. Perhaps this is only something that the bank has to fix and they are very interested in doing so. Any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated and tried. Thanks, Betsy Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML and inserted information
Sorry for the misunderstanding. This sounds like a serious accessibility issue and I would notify the bank immediately. Just grabbing at straws or sugar cane here, have you attempted to perform a Find for the Payee with Control + F? Probably will not work, but it is worth a try. Another longshot thought. Could the bank have made the payees name a graphic? They might have done this as a security measure or simply to make it more snazy. If so, perhaps the graphic could be labeled with JAWS or Webvisum. Webvisum could also be helpful since you can send the graphic to their serber and have them perform OCR on it so it could be identified. If the payee names are graphics, the bank should definitely update their pages to label those graphics with Alt tags. Make sure that JAWS is set to announce all graphics so that you will know if something is there. Don Marang -- From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:59 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML and inserted information Aloha Donald, I think I have not been clear. When I started the account nearly a year ago, I entered a list of payees, their addresses and phone numbers. When the site was updated is when I began having this problem. The page I'm having trouble with is that page of payees and below each entry is an edit box for entering the amount I'd like to pay. It won't read any of those items so I can't find the payee I want and then am not able to enter the amount. Does that help? I have tried the insert escape to redraw the page, and no help. At 09:46 PM 6/25/2010, you wrote: Perhaps the page has been updated without JAWS realizing it. On my bank's site this happens when I hit the pay button. Pressing Insert (CapsLock for laptop layout) + Escape refreshes the JAWS buffer and it can then read it to me. Don Marang -- From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:31 PM To: jaws users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML and inserted information Aloha all, Some time back I mentioned that I was having trouble reading parts of my online banking service screens. Here's the issue. The information on the page is html. However, when a person adds information such as the name of a company that they want to pay, JAWS only reads the part that is html. I have contacted the bank but in the meantime, is there perhaps something I should change in my settings that might make it work better? I am told that when I click on the make payments screen, all of my payees are shown on the screen, but when I arrow around, I only hear the items that were originally on the page and none of the things that were added. I would tell you what my settings are now, but honestly not sure what to tell. Perhaps this is only something that the bank has to fix and they are very interested in doing so. Any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated and tried. Thanks, Betsy Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Survey Monkey
In the past I have found it to be very accessible for both the survey author and the participant. Don Marang -- From: KERRYANN IFILL k...@caribsurf.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Survey Monkey hi List, Has anyone used the survey monkey pservices for creating online surveys? How accessible have you found it to be. Awaiting your response. Regards kerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I set IE8 so Jaws starts off in the Webpage pane instead of title bar
Could this be what started happening to me using JAWS 10 after updating to the latest JAWS 11? Did FS change something in the Common software? ever since the last JAWS 11 update I often have my focus go somewhere strange. It occurs when opening certain websites, when my JAWS script opens a page in a new window, and when I use Tab browsing! For instance, if I am scanning through an RSS feed using the '2' quick navigation key, find a headline I am interested in, then I press Control + Enter to open that link in the background. I use this method so I can skim through all of the headlines then read all of the articles of interst later. Now, after activating the link, the focus goes away! I have found if I press Tab the focus moves to the address bar. Pressing Shift + Tab will move back to the activated link location! This is extremely annoying! Don Marang -- From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I set IE8 so Jaws starts off in the Webpage pane instead of title bar Hello Prateek, There are a couple things you might consider. First of all, if you press CTRL+9 you will move the focus directly to the web page. This will often work faster than using f6 or tabbing. You can set Internet Explorer to open in full screen mode. Choose full screen under the view menu and then close the browser. When you open the browser again, it will be running in full screen mode. However, I found that when using a blank starting page the focus still went to the address bar. When using a web page that isn't blank in full screen mode the focus went to the body of the page as you would expect. In full screen mode you can still access menus and use hotkeys. You can also use F11 to turn on full screen mode. You can run the browser in Kiosk mode. In Kiosk mode most hotkeys will work but you cannot access a menu bar. However, when a blank page is your starting page, it will load as expected and not go directly to the address bar. Use the run dialog box to use the Kiosk mode. Use Windows key+R to bring up the run dialog box. Type in IExplore -K without the quotes. If you press enter you will be taken to your start page. If the page is blank there will be nothing to access. Again, you can use hotkeys to open pages and perform other actions but you won't be able to use the menu bar. There is a context menu with limited choices on it when in Kiosk mode. In the run dialog box you can also follow the IExplore -K command with a space and a specific address to open. You might find that just pressing CTRL+f9 will work for what you are wanting to do. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dujari, Prateek Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How can I set IE8 so Jaws starts off in the Web page pane instead of title bar Hello. Using Jaws 11 on both an XP as well as a Win7 PC, each time I start up IE8 (which is set to 'blank' as my home page for faster loading of IE8), type a URL to go to upon loading that web page the JAWS virtual PC cursor always lands on the title bar. Then I have to tab few times to go through the tool bar, menu bar, the annoying bing default bar and such before I can actually land on the web page pane and start to read the page. How can I set either IE8 or JAWS11 so the virtual PC cursor lands directly on the web page pane so I can start reading the page right away? Prateek For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Opinions on TV Tuner Applications with Jaws 11
I do not know which tuner card software is accessible. I use an on-line TV Guide, TitanTV.com, which is very accessible. It also is designed to worrk with tuner card and Personal Video Recorder (PVR) software. The site makes it easy to record the show that you are browsing in the grid. It will send commands to the software to set the recording. There are also help pages identifying and comparing all of the TV tuner cards and software. Perhaps this will help? Don Marang -- From: Scorpio Forever scorpio...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:39 PM To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Opinions on TV Tuner Applications with Jaws 11 Hi Folks, I recently purchased a TV Tuner card for my PC, an internal one to be exact. I am currently using Windows XP Home Edition and Jaws 11 latest build. The software to watch and record live TV with the card is almost wholly inaccessible, so I was wondering what software I could use, preferably free, as all my money went out the door for the card that is accessible, or, at the very least, accessible to the tune of the Jaws cursor, and is able to run on Windows XP. Oh, and in case any of you are thinking about it, no, upgrading operating systems is not an option for me at the moment. Either way, thanks for everyone's help folks. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] epson sx650 all in one printer with jaws 11
I have an Epson Artisan 810 All-In-One Wireless Network printerr. I absolutely love it. Typically software for HP printers is more accessible and they officially support Linux drivers. However, I got tired of HP printers getting chincy. A prime example is the last HP OfficeJet printer I owned had a paper feed so cheap, even my sighted wife was unable to fax a single page! The paper feed on my Artisan is robust and has not failed yet. The ADF works great for scanning and faxing. It also has a full flatbed scanner. The ink is really easy to change. Hardware wise, this printer can not be beat! The software is a mixed bag. I still have not figured out the Epson Scan software. The fax software is straight forward and accessible. I generally avoid their software beyond the basic drivers. Using this printer with Windows for those who are completely blind is probably not recommended. I have just enough vision to see the icon size soft buttons on the screen. The main screen has 6 buttons and I know that Scan is the bottom middle button.This scanner can scan to a memory card plugged into the scanner. I just scan to the memory card and all of the computers in our house can access the card over the network. I use my scanner frequently from Vinux. A separate division of Epson in Japan provide Linux drivers that work great. Ubuntu has a bunch of great free, utilities to work with scanned images, and there is more to come. Don Marang -- From: Stuart Deadman stupo...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] epson sx650 all in one printer with jaws 11 hi listers i am thinking about purchasing the above printer. just wondered if anyone has any experience using epson all in one printers with jaws thanks in advance stuart deadman stupo...@hotmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] File path, file info and Classic theme in windows7 with JAWS11
I will attempt to answer your questions in order. 1. Press F4 to take you to an address bar that is not in the Tab order. I am not sure it is even normally visible. This was also available in XP. I think the text is selected by default, so pressing Control + C as soon as you move to this field will copy the full folder address to the clipboard. If you want to copy the full pathname of a file, there is another method. Hold down the Shift key while pressing the Applications key. This brings up the right click context menu with a few additional items. One of those additional items will be Copy path. 2. Windows 7 and JAWS support a new way of looking at file information in Windows Explorer. If you have the Details view enabled (Alt + V, followed by D), the information is now displayed in a table. By arrowing left and right you can move to read the different columns. This has been previously available on the Mac and Linux. 3. I am not really too familiar with the Windows Clasic theme because I do not use it. The two differences I know of is that Classic does not use Aero and the Desktop is not in the Alt + Tab order. Aero is a new, fancy window special effects theme that makes Windows 7 look cool. JAWS will disable Aero anyway. In the Classic theme, the Desktop should not appear when pressing Alt + Tab through the open applications. Don Marang -- From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] File path,file info and Classic theme in windows7 with JAWS11 Hello all. I've a new Windows7 PC with JAWS 11 installed and working fine. Have 3 Qs for the group please. 1. It was very easy to get the file path in Windows explorer in XP by simply being inside the folder of interest, then tabbing once to find and copy the patch. How do I copy the full path in Windows7 explorer? those split buttons on top upon which successively hitting the right arrow shows u the path doesn't allow me to copy the full path at all I've set the folder view to details, and only have the navigation pane checked under the 'layout' option under the 'organize' split button inside windows explorer. 2. How do I easily see the file date and size with Jaws11 inside Windows7 explorer? Again in XP I would just revert to the JAWS cursor, move it over the file of interest and JAWS would read out this info. Not so in Windows7 explorer. Tabbing when resting upon a file name just seems to take me to the diff column headings (name, date etc.) and I believe it only allows u this way to sort the folder by name or date or so on. Also pl note I don't want to have to hit the applications key on the kBD then go to the general tab and find the info there. that seems too long compared to the above described quicker way that works in XP. so is there a quicker way in Windows7 explorer? 3. finally, someone earlier on this list recommended changing the windows7 theme to Windows classic which I have done. However I'm curious as to what should I now expect to find different as a JAWS user? I haven't really found any difference so far switching the theme to classic. thx much! Prateek For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Question About Losing Focus
I have been having a particular case of losing focus ever since the last JAWS 11 update. The odd thing is that it is happening in JAWS 10! I primarily still use JAWS 10 because there are somehow unrelated user scripts like the BX Toolbox that have strange side effects on JAWS 11 and Windows Live Mail. My new focus issue in JAWS 10 is sometimes when I launch a new browser window or if I use Tab browsing. It happens 100% of the time if I use Control + Enter on a link to open a new Tab in a background window. The focus gets lost. The arrow and navigation keys no longer work. Presumidelly, It is at the bottom of the page because pressing Tab takes me to the address bar! Pressing Shift + Tab takes me back to the link I was at before the incidentt. Kind of a Twighlight episode. Don Marang -- From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question About Losing Focus I'd like the answer to this one as well. I have noticed this happening a lot with JAWS 11. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michelle White Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question About Losing Focus Hi there, I have a question for a person on another list. She is wanting to know what would cause Jaws and the version she is using by the way is version 11, what would cause it to lose focus? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and ahve a great day. Michelle For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] what is the email address for reportingproblems/issues to Freedom Sciantific?
I still encounter that exact problem with Windows Live Mail and JAWS 11. The latest JAWS 11 update fixed a lot of other odd issues with this app. I also wish that when reading messages in a separate window, that pressing the Delete key would delete the message and start reading the next message. This works in JAWS 10, but does not work for me with JAWS 11. I can delete these messages by pressing Control + D. If I wipe out my personal settings and all user scripts, I think it works a little better. I have notified Freedom Scientific. They recognize the Windows Live Mail scripts need more work, mostly due to Microsoft developing code that does not properly use their own MSSA standard. They always promise they will be better in JAWS 12. Because of these issues, I am still mostly using JAWS 10. I have more productive things to do with my time than track down which scripts are screwing up unrelated scripts and why. Don Marang -- From: Daniel McGee m...@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 2:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] what is the email address for reportingproblems/issues to Freedom Sciantific? Hi everyone, my subject line says it all. Can anyone tell me the email address which addresses problems/issues with Jaws for freedom sciantific? The reason I am asking this is because I would like to address the issue with windows live mail with Jaws when at times jaws will ramdomly not read an email in windows live mail. If anyone can remember a few days agowhen I mentioned that jaws comes across a certain number of messages and will read from and the subject but just for some weird reason will not read the message. So I would like to try and report this to FS and see if they are awear of it. Many Thanks. Daniel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] making JAWS sing?
And in the early 80's, we spent an incredible amount of time attempting to make printers sing. Interesting, but not very soothing. Don Marang -- From: Kim Kelly kim...@clearwire.net Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] making JAWS sing? Gee, Jaws Singing? That is a new one. That would be fun for a laugh. Kim Kelly Clarkston Washington you can also find me on facebook. You can also visit Our new Web Site http://www.samobile.net/users/richandconchita/ - Original Message - From: Victoria Vaughan vrvaug...@mailzone.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] making JAWS sing? Way back when Jaws used the Dec Talk Express, I remember it was able to sing several songs. It could even warble on certen notes. I remember 1 of the songs was Moonlight over Vermont, that name might be wrong, but close enough. It was sooo qute on the warble! It would be fun, but sertenly not productive. May be Dancing Dots could make use of the singing screen reader for its Lime Aloud Braille music program? Vicky - Original Message - From: Zach, Apex Edition chickerl...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:57 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] making JAWS sing? Hi, I was reading mail on the NVDA list about making NVDA sing. So I was wondering, can one make JAWS sing? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Kill JAWS
There has been a JAWS hotkey to unload JAWS when things go wrong since version 8. It is JAWSKey (Insert for desktop keyboard layouts, CapsLock for laptop) + Windows + F4. There will be no confirmation dialog. Sometimes it produces a system beep on my computer. This also dumps the memory to a file that FS support may ask you to email to them. From the JAWS 8 What's New: If a total loss of speech occurs, it is difficult to recover JAWS without rebooting the computer. However, a reboot provides no diagnostic information to assist Freedom Scientific in researching the underlying problem. INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. The new keystroke closes JAWS, terminates all related processes, and creates a memory dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical Support. (Note: The keystroke will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech. The memory dump file is saved to the Settings folder. To locate the file, do the following: Press CTRL+ESC to open the Start menu. Choose Programs. Choose JAWS 8.0, Explore JAWS, and then Explore My Settings. This opens the following folder: C:\Documents and Settings\your user name\Application Data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\8.0\Settings\ENU. Press the BACKSPACE key to navigate to the Settings folder. Select the JAWSMemDmp folder and press ENTER. The files in this folder are identified by the JAWS version and build number. Don Marang -- From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Kill JAWS I am running Windows XP Pro and Office 2007. I have an issue with outlook, in that it crashes periodically, and when it does, it takes speech with it. This behavior is screen reader independent. The computer itself has not crashed, just Outlook and speech. Now, if you can get speech back, you can interact with the Outlook error reporting dialogue, and close and restart Outlook. The normal command, i. e. INSERT-F4 does not work in this situation. Now, Window Eyes has a Kill script that allows you to use a hotkey that will unload Window Eyes from memory, and then you can use your normal hotkey, usually CONTROL-ALT-W, to start WE again. Does JAWS have a similar key sequence that will unload it from memory when INSERT-F4 does not work? Andy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] applications key
A good tool to use in this sitituation is the JAWS key help mode. Press CapsLock + 1 in the numbers row to turn on thhis help mode. Then you can explore all of your keys to discover what they do. Some modifier keys will announce nothing unless you press a key combination. If you have an applications key it will announce it as such just by pressing that key. When done discoveringnew keys, press CapsLock + 1 again to turn key help off. Don Marang -- From: Sherri flmom2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] applications key I don't seem to have one on my computer, which is a Del laptop. - Original Message - From: Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] applications key Mine is the last key to the right top row. I have a Toshiba laptop. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net WHEN THE POWER OF LOVE IS STRONGER THAN THE LOVE OF POWER, THE WORLD WILL KNOW PEACE --JIMI HENDRIX. - Original Message - From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] applications key Hi Debbie. You can either use alt f10, or as far as i can remember, if you go from the top right hand corner, the applications key is the last one to the left, on that very top row. does that make sense? I hope that helps, Mo. Debbie wrote: I am using a dell lap top and can't remember how to access the application key with jaws. Can anyone help me out. Thanks Debbie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] malware and MSE
Recently, I had Microsoft Security Essentials, actually the SpyNet component, ask if I wanted to send a report about suspicious software. It was an archive version of QuickTime! What's up with that? Are we part of an anti-competitive battle between giants? I have MSE running all of the time. Then I have MalwareBytes and SuperAntispyware installed for occasional manual scans. Neither one interferes with MSE. Don Marang -- From: Jason downeaster...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] malware and MSSE I use malware bites. spybot search and destroy 1.62 and windows defender. You don't need training to become a garbage collector. You just pick it up as you go along. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] malware and MSSE You most definitely need Malware Bytes to complement MSE, because it will detect spyware that MSE misses. Gerald - Original Message - From: Becky B reb...@nc.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] malware and MSSE If you are using MSSE, do you still need Malware? I remember reading that you do not need additional anti-spyware with MSSE. Becky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read documentpagenumbersinadobereader9
There should be a Check for updates item in the Help menu. Don Marang -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:55 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read documentpagenumbersinadobereader9 Don, For some reason, I'm not getting those requests. Is there a readily accessible download link you have? thanks Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read documentpagenumbersinadobereader9 Is there a reason you are fighting the incessant, intrusive update requests for 9.x? Don Marang -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read documentpagenumbersinadobereader 9 Don, Yes, I've tried that and any other key combination I can think of and I can't hear page #'s etc. Most times I convert PDF docs to text or word because I get too frustrated with Adobe and getting around in documents. Back in older versions such as 7 etc it sure seemed much easier. thanks Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document pagenumbersinadobereader 9 Sorry, I do not have that version. Have you attempted JAWSKey + PageDown, to read the Status bar? Don Marang -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbersinadobereader 9 Donald, I'm still using version8.1 Any suggestions for that version? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbers inadobereader 9 I have found that it is now displayed at the top of the window. Not nearly as convenient! Now you will need to perform the following keystrokes: JAWSKey (Insert on desktop layout, CapsLock on laptop) + NumPad Minus (-) to route the JAWS cursor to the PC currsor NumPad Minus (-) to turn on the JAWS cursor PageUp to go to the top of the window Down Arrow down until you hear the page inforrmation. Just before or after announcing the menus, it should announce something like 1 of 45, to inform you are on page 1 of 45 total pages. Don Marang -- From: Sérgio Neves sergioneve...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbers in adobereader 9 Hi, I've migrated from adobe reader 7.10 to adobe reader 9.2. Whichever version of JAWS I use, I'm not able to find a consistent way to read the current page number and the total number of pages of a document opened in adobe reader 9.2. In adobe reader 7.10, I could get this information from adobe reader's status bar (page 10/1000, for example). Is there any way to accomplish this task with a minimal key sequence using adobe reader 9 and JAWS? I've reported a bug against adobe reader some weeks ago, but didn't have any answer until now. Thanks. Best regards, Sérgio Neves For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't readdocument pagenumbersinadobereader 9
Can the old version 7 read ePub books? Some of Adobe's comments regarding the inaccessibility of Adobe Editions, which is used to read ePub books, implies this capability used to be in Reader. If it can even open these files, I would be interested in getting and installing version 7 again! Don Marang -- From: Don and Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't readdocument pagenumbersinadobereader 9 I still have 7 for that reason. Do you need the executable file? Cher -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document pagenumbersinadobereader 9 Don, Yes, I've tried that and any other key combination I can think of and I can't hear page #'s etc. Most times I convert PDF docs to text or word because I get too frustrated with Adobe and getting around in documents. Back in older versions such as 7 etc it sure seemed much easier. thanks Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document pagenumbersinadobereader 9 Sorry, I do not have that version. Have you attempted JAWSKey + PageDown, to read the Status bar? Don Marang -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbersinadobereader 9 Donald, I'm still using version8.1 Any suggestions for that version? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbers inadobereader 9 I have found that it is now displayed at the top of the window. Not nearly as convenient! Now you will need to perform the following keystrokes: JAWSKey (Insert on desktop layout, CapsLock on laptop) + NumPad Minus (-) to route the JAWS cursor to the PC currsor NumPad Minus (-) to turn on the JAWS cursor PageUp to go to the top of the window Down Arrow down until you hear the page inforrmation. Just before or after announcing the menus, it should announce something like 1 of 45, to inform you are on page 1 of 45 total pages. Don Marang -- From: Sérgio Neves sergioneve...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbers in adobereader 9 Hi, I've migrated from adobe reader 7.10 to adobe reader 9.2. Whichever version of JAWS I use, I'm not able to find a consistent way to read the current page number and the total number of pages of a document opened in adobe reader 9.2. In adobe reader 7.10, I could get this information from adobe reader's status bar (page 10/1000, for example). Is there any way to accomplish this task with a minimal key sequence using adobe reader 9 and JAWS? I've reported a bug against adobe reader some weeks ago, but didn't have any answer until now. Thanks. Best regards, Sérgio Neves For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbersinadobereader 9
Sorry, I do not have that version. Have you attempted JAWSKey + PageDown, to read the Status bar? Don Marang -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbersinadobereader 9 Donald, I'm still using version8.1 Any suggestions for that version? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbers inadobereader 9 I have found that it is now displayed at the top of the window. Not nearly as convenient! Now you will need to perform the following keystrokes: JAWSKey (Insert on desktop layout, CapsLock on laptop) + NumPad Minus (-) to route the JAWS cursor to the PC currsor NumPad Minus (-) to turn on the JAWS cursor PageUp to go to the top of the window Down Arrow down until you hear the page inforrmation. Just before or after announcing the menus, it should announce something like 1 of 45, to inform you are on page 1 of 45 total pages. Don Marang -- From: Sérgio Neves sergioneve...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS doesn't read document page numbers in adobereader 9 Hi, I've migrated from adobe reader 7.10 to adobe reader 9.2. Whichever version of JAWS I use, I'm not able to find a consistent way to read the current page number and the total number of pages of a document opened in adobe reader 9.2. In adobe reader 7.10, I could get this information from adobe reader's status bar (page 10/1000, for example). Is there any way to accomplish this task with a minimal key sequence using adobe reader 9 and JAWS? I've reported a bug against adobe reader some weeks ago, but didn't have any answer until now. Thanks. Best regards, Sérgio Neves For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Flash player
Currently, most buttons within a Flash Player can only be labeled by the Developer! YouTube, just after the announcement of Adobe's CS4 last year, which included more accessibility features in Flash Professional, added labels for standard buttons like play, pause and full screen. Sometime over the last year this seemed to go away. Probably a developer's oversight. JAWS can not label anything within the Flash movie object. As far as I have been able to determine, JAWS Scripts can not help label these buttons either. Adobe has just released, or about to release CS5, which now enhances the accessibility features and more importantly, make accessibility the default! This means that any developer creating a Flash Player object with the Adobe Flash Professional in Creative Suite 5 (CS5), will automatically have the standard 'widgets', recognized as buttons by JAWS will be labeled. Additional developer customized 'widgets' must have additional accessibility info filled out in the accessibility panel. Hopefully, this evolutionary enhancements will get implemented by web developers. The website developers must add this information or at least upgrade to the latest tools to improve the accessibility of their site. Send emails to the webmaster / developer of these sites to encourage them to update to the latest tools and to use the accessibility features of these tools to improve their site. HTML does show promise since it has accessibility designed into the standard. There are still many details up in the air, such as which video codec to implement. These issues are around copyright and patents. The favorite is H264, which works great and implemented many places like YouTube, is currently only free for non commercial use and this free trial will end around 2014. Some organizations, like Mozilla will not implement H264 for this reason in Firefox. They are pushing an little known open source video codec. Microsoft supports HTML5 using H264. They are implementing these standards into Internet Explorer 9. There are some very early betas of IE9 available, but I doubt they would work well with any screen readers. Apple, of course, has started a war with Adobe over Flash. Steve has personally bashed Flash and swears never to allow it on iPhones, iPods or iPads! He is pushing HTML5, even though it is not ready yet. That will certainly speed up implementation. Don Marang -- From: Daniel McGee m...@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Flash player I'm not really sure. But try www.youtube.com/html5 If I am correct voiceover users on the Mac OS X Platform are able to see where the buttons are. I've not really played with this sight because quite simply I've never really needed to we wind fast forward or to do any of controls. But that's typical flash for you. Apparently Adobiesay they are going to make flash accessible in the near future. But what with this new HTML5 coming out I think its going to change things. Try the sight and let us all know how you find it! And if someone on this list knows about this new thing called html5 ccould they reply to this subject explaining what it is and if it will benefit to screenreaders in future? -- From: Waqas Chauhdry waq...@o2.co.uk Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Flash player I suppose not! My sighted colleague tells me that the buttons change depending on the type of programme i.e. HD etc. so, I think we really need some scripts. Regards Waqas -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: 08 May 2010 15:03 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Flash player Not that i know of, does anyone else have any ideas? Labeling them manually isn't practical? Mo. Waqas Chauhdry wrote: Thanks but what about places like YouTube and similar websites? Are there no scripts available to label the buttons in Flash player to work with Jaws? Regards Waqas -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: 08 May 2010 13:46 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Flash player Greetings. It all depends on which website you're using really. For example, if you use the BBC IPlayer, there's a button called timeline. when you press space on that, you have an option to skip to different sections of the video, so 1 button will be 10%, the other will be 20%, etc etc. same with volume controls, but not all websites implement this. Hope this helps, Mo. Waqas Chauhdry wrote: Greetings, I wonder if there
Re: [JAWS-Users] send as unicode
Unicode can handle all of the characters required for all of the world's languages. If you are using English and your reader will most likely be using English, the As is option will work fine. Don Marang -- From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send as unicode Hi Leonard; I just had what you are describing happen to me yesterday and I'm curious as to what the difference is also! Hopefully someone will have an answer. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Leonard Morris To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] send as unicode Sometimes when I paste text from notepad into an email message when I want to send the message I am presented with two options. One is asking if I want to send as unicode and the other is send as is. What's the difference? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Access Web Site Log In Page
One additional note. The first My Account mouse over link did not bring up the login edit fields for me. I found a second My Account link just before the Flash Movie object. Hitting Enter on this link enables the login edit fields required to login. If you do not find the second link just before the Flash object, it may need you to hit Enter on the first My Account link to show the second link. If you get to the login edit boxes, I would set a Favorite with Control + D, to avoid this every time. Don Marang -- From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Access Web Site Log In Page Hi. I'm using JAWS 10 with IE 8, but give this a try. I pressed enter on my account. I heard the navigation click in IE eight, so I knew something had changed on the page. you're correct that there's not anything obvious for JAWS to load. But, on a hunch, I went to the top of the page and pressed E in case there was an enter field. Bingo. There are two enter fields, one for user name and one for password. The fields are labeled correctly, but they are seen as mouse over links for JAWS. I was able to both press enter and left click on these fields to activate forms mode. I couldn't go any further because I don't have an account. HTH and good luck. There's plenty of room for Gods creatures...right next to the mashed potatoes Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:27 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Access Web Site Log In Page Greetings listers. Recently, I created an account with Page Plus Cellular, a prepaid wireless provider that offers some of the cheapest rates around. In order to review my account, I need to access the log in page by activating the My Account link on the PPC home page. When I arrow down to My Account, JAWS 9 announces MY Account mouse over but does not announce link. When I hit Enter on this object, nothing happens. When I press Insert-Control-Enter, JAWS announces content has changed, but again, I do not get the log in page. I have tried every keystroke combination I can think of to no avail. I can't find any other link to the log in page. Am I missing something, or is this link set up in such a way that JAWS can't activate it? For anyone who's interested , check out the following web page, arrow down to My Account, and see if you can figure out how to activate it to bring up the log in page. Thanks. http://www.pagepluscellular.com/ Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100505-1, 05/05/2010 Tested on: 5/5/2010 12:05:20 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] MP3 splitter?
Another possible option is AudioBookCutter. I have downloaded it but have not tried it yet. Someone on the Victor Reader Stream mailing list recommended it to automatically detect breaks in speech near the lengths you specify and make the splice there. Don Marang -- From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MP3 splitter? Hi Darrin. Thanks for your help. If i use the automatically split option, is there any way of goldwave automatically detecting pauses and splitting based on when there is a pause? or would i have to use the manual procedure you described? Mo. Darrin Porter wrote: Mo, This could easily and quickly be done with GoldWave. Goldwave will either automatically split the file into segments whose lengths you specify (regardless of what's happening at the split point) or you can manually go in and drop que points where you want the file split. This is pretty quick and easy since you can jump to any part of the file quickly. For example, if you wanted the file split up into roughly thirty minute segments, you could simply jumt to, say, 29 minutes and thirty seconds and start listening, dropping your que point during a pause or quiet part of the file. Then repeate at 59:30, 1:29:30, etc. I did this for a two and a half hour lecture series I recorded and managed to get the entire lecture split into approximately 5 minute segments in somewhat less than an hour. Another nice feature of GoldWave is that you can name your que points and tell the program to split the file at the que points and use the que point names as the split file names. Darrin Porter Senior Technical Engineer United Ocean Services, L.L.C. 601 South Harbour Island Boulevard, Suite 230 Tampa, Florida 33602 (813) 209-4247 (office) (813) 744-0011 (cellular phone) (813) 242-4849 (fax) darrin.por...@united-mar.comm -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] MP3 splitter? Hi All. I'm looking for a program that will convert a long MP3 file, say 8 hours in to manageable segments. Would goldwave do this? I want something ideally that will detect pauses and split based on when a pause occurs so for example if i'm converting it in to half hour sections and there's a pause after 30 minutes and 3 seconds, it'll split where the pause is and not in the middle of a word. does anything like this exist and that's accessible? I don't mind using the jaws curser. Best, Mo. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Attention: This email and any accompanying attachments constitute confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you have received this email communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message and any attachments from your system. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS
Sorry, I asked as part of a troubleshooting process of the problem, not as a solution. You need to find the root of the issue, such as the JAWS Navigation keys not working or a hardware or software problem with your keyboard. Trying a USB keyboard if available, might help isolate the problem. Again, this is a troubleshooting step, not a solution. By the way, in Word, the D and N keys should move you through footnotes and comments in your document. Don Marang -- From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS Don, Thank you for the information. To answer your question yes it does help to reboot. However, rebooting frequently defeats the purpose of buying the full version in my opinion. - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS I am not sure your diagnosis is correct. It is easy to blame a feature in which you are not familiar. Quick Keys are very productive and have been copied by most screen readers. At some point you should give them a chance. In Word, it niormally requires Control + N to open a new document and JAWSKey (CapsLock for a laptop keyboard layout or Insert for a desktop layout) + D to open the Dictionary Manager. Perhaps you have more thabn one key on your keyboard sticking? Does it help to reboot the computer? JAWS does not like to perform a repair from different updates downloaded from the web. It works fine if you installed from the CD and never updated from the web. But who ever does that? There are ways to force the repair. I can not remember the details. I just uninstall the damaged version and install again. You may need another version of JAWS installed or use another screen reader to do this with speech. Quick Keys can be turned off for the session in Internet Explorer by pressing JAWSKey )CapsLock for a laptop keyboard, Insert for a desktop layout) + N or in the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter n until you hear Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. Navigation Keys can also be turned off temporarily in Word by pressing JAWSKey + Z or through the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter E until you hear Easy Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. To turn these off permanantly, open the Configuration Manager by pressing JAWSKey + 6 in the numbers row, then press Control + Shift + D. Press Alt + S to open the Settings menu and press K to open the Keyboard Options dialog. The first set of radio buttons controls the Quick Keys navigation feature. Arrow down to off and hit Enter. Save the settings in Configuration Manager by pressing Control + S, then close with Alt + F4. Performing Don Marang -- From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS All JAWS users, My previous email may have been linked with the email I had sent a while back regarding the pressing of a letter in a word document such as the letter N would bring up a new document and the letter D would bring up the JAWS dictionary. This is very annoying since many words contain the letter N and the letter D. My email earlier today was regarding quick keys being turned off while on the internet. I am finding that quick keys which I believe is the culprit to all my JAWS problems is being very problematic for me. The response I received a while back was to run a JAWS repair and see if that fixes the problem. Now my issue with running a JAWS repair is where to go on the freedom scientific website to accomplish the repair. I went to the JAWS 10 32 bit download and selected run from the run or save menu. Then it got to the setup wizard and I selected next. Each window I have checked for the repair option with no luck. I eventually got to a point where it said it could not be installed because it already exist. Please any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated and please be very detailed in the instruction since I am still fairly new to JAWS My equipment: Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with XP (OS) running JAWS 10 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Updates, Bios
Unless there is a problem with the current BIOS or there is a new feature you strongly want., there is no need to update. If you do hold off updating right now, familiarize yourself with what the update provides in case you encounter problems in the future. It may be an issue with external hardware which you currently do not own. Updating the BIOS or any firmware is very similar from the user's viewpoint from a standard install and usually just as easy. However, BIOS and firmware updates are always more risky. There is a chance the computer or device can become a paperweight if it fails or the power goes out at the wrong time! It is normally safe. Do not update while doing something else at the same time, close all other windows, and not during a thunderstorm. Don Marang -- From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updates, Bios Hi everyone, I bought a new laptop last November. I have been sent some updates that came from the manufacturer. A few of these have to do with updating the bios. I hav not done this because my laptop continues to work just fine and secondly, I have been told that doing this is not as simple as just download/installing the usual updates. Does anyone have any experience with this? Russ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS
I am not sure your diagnosis is correct. It is easy to blame a feature in which you are not familiar. Quick Keys are very productive and have been copied by most screen readers. At some point you should give them a chance. In Word, it niormally requires Control + N to open a new document and JAWSKey (CapsLock for a laptop keyboard layout or Insert for a desktop layout) + D to open the Dictionary Manager. Perhaps you have more thabn one key on your keyboard sticking? Does it help to reboot the computer? JAWS does not like to perform a repair from different updates downloaded from the web. It works fine if you installed from the CD and never updated from the web. But who ever does that? There are ways to force the repair. I can not remember the details. I just uninstall the damaged version and install again. You may need another version of JAWS installed or use another screen reader to do this with speech. Quick Keys can be turned off for the session in Internet Explorer by pressing JAWSKey )CapsLock for a laptop keyboard, Insert for a desktop layout) + N or in the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter n until you hear Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. Navigation Keys can also be turned off temporarily in Word by pressing JAWSKey + Z or through the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter E until you hear Easy Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. To turn these off permanantly, open the Configuration Manager by pressing JAWSKey + 6 in the numbers row, then press Control + Shift + D. Press Alt + S to open the Settings menu and press K to open the Keyboard Options dialog. The first set of radio buttons controls the Quick Keys navigation feature. Arrow down to off and hit Enter. Save the settings in Configuration Manager by pressing Control + S, then close with Alt + F4. Performing Don Marang -- From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS All JAWS users, My previous email may have been linked with the email I had sent a while back regarding the pressing of a letter in a word document such as the letter N would bring up a new document and the letter D would bring up the JAWS dictionary. This is very annoying since many words contain the letter N and the letter D. My email earlier today was regarding quick keys being turned off while on the internet. I am finding that quick keys which I believe is the culprit to all my JAWS problems is being very problematic for me. The response I received a while back was to run a JAWS repair and see if that fixes the problem. Now my issue with running a JAWS repair is where to go on the freedom scientific website to accomplish the repair. I went to the JAWS 10 32 bit download and selected run from the run or save menu. Then it got to the setup wizard and I selected next. Each window I have checked for the repair option with no luck. I eventually got to a point where it said it could not be installed because it already exist. Please any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated and please be very detailed in the instruction since I am still fairly new to JAWS My equipment: Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with XP (OS) running JAWS 10 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and windows 7 VM?
Yes, you diagnosed that right. If you must use JAWS within the VM, deleting the JAWS mirror display driver will allow JAWS to run without crashing. Of course, much of the JAWS functionality will be lost. Don Marang -- From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and windows 7 VM? Hi List. I wonder if someone can help me with the problem i'm having. I'm testing Windows7 using a program called VMPlayer, this allows people to test operating systems from within windows or linux as a virtual operating system before physical deployment. The problem i've got is with jaws 11.0.756. I've installed it successfully, but jaws freezes at random times, and when it does, i get a blue screen of death. This does not happen with NVDA or when jaws isn't running. The freezing problem also occurs when jaws is running and i click on shutdown. My suspicions lie with the mirror driver, is this the problem? I haven't heard of this problem when installed as a normal installation, maybe its something to do with the VMWare display component? I've tried changing resolution, turning off visual effects, should i disable 3D? i haven't tried installing direct X, but i didn't think jaws used direct X at all? has anyone got any ideas what could make windows 7 freeze like that? I've also tried using the gineric windows7 graphics adapter driver and completely removing the VMWare driver, but jaws still freezes. I mentioned disabling 3D, don't quote me, but i'm not sure if the gineric adapter driver uses 3D or not? I've checked online for updates, driver updates included, no joy. Any help would be greatly apreciated. All the best, Mo. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] avast accessibility
Good point. Perhaps the term 'resources' was premature. I have not even looked at the memory being used by Security Essentials. I was thinking mostly about CPU usage and responsiveness. Of course, if it was such a memory hog, I would have thought it would really bog down my system, especially since I almost always have many applications open. I have never even noticed it kicking in late at night when it performs a full scan. Don Marang -- From: ENES SARIBAS enes.sari...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:12 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] avast accessibility hello you say mse uses little ram i heard that it is a resource hog For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] avast accessibility
If you want to stick to a free, no hassle antivirus/antimalware solution, I would recommend Microsoft's Security Essentials. It is completely accessible, uses little resources, and stays out of the way. The definition updates are handled by Windows Update for reliability and convenience. Since your habits and quickly performing Operating System and Browser security updates through Windows Update is actually more important than the antivirus scanner to reduce risk of infection, tieing definitions to Windows Update makes sense. There are a few solutions that possibly catch more nasties, but if your habits are risky and / or this keeps you up at night, you would probably be better off with a paid product. Don Marang -- From: Mobeen Iqbal mobeeniq...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] avast accessibility Hi. That's fair enough, I've tried many sollutions trend micro, AVG, avast, Nod32, bit defender, etc etc. Avast is good for me because customers want a free alternative and normally install their own anti-virus anyway, but alot of blind people i know use Avast mostly through choice as far as i'm aware. I'm not saying its definitively the best, but it keeps most viruses at bay or has done on many pc's i've used it on. I just thought i'd write to the people at avast so they were aware of the issues being encountered, and post here for reference. All the best, Mo. ENES SARIBAS, wrote: hi, for my personal opinion avast isn't worth using your better off with accessible software like avira i dont think avast will fix issues For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS?
My guess is that the parrent document being announced is part of the technical information available in Developer Mode, which is now part of Internet Explorer 8. Pressing F12 toggles Developer Mode on and off. It provides the capability to view and dynamically modify the underlying HTML and CSS, along with the resulting DOM, that make upp the webpage. The parent document reference would be the very top item in the Document Object Model (DOM). Either you unknowingly got switched into Developer Mode or JAWS is picking up information that should not be displayed. If pressing F12 does not fix the problem, see if pressing Insert + Escape allows JAWS to read the page correctly. Don Marang -- From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? Oh, it's strange. On some computers IE8 is really slow, but does not crash so often. The perrent document window might be in connection with a pdf document. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Don and Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? I installed IE8 when it first came out... with whatever version of JAWS was current then... perhaps that was 10? I'm now using the latest. I was getting blank pages, crashes, and that open parent document button that another member mentioned. I rolled back to IE7 and have used it ever since. Cher -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Negoslav Sabev Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:52 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? What version of jaws? Negoslav - Original Message - From: Don and Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? That was one of many issues that I encountered. Can anyone explain how to avoid this open parent document one? Cher -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Lorah Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? I sure did, when I tried to go on the internet, the message I gog was: open paren document. The internet would not open, Don - Original Message - From: Don and Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? Along with some of you, I uninstalled IE8 after a short time due to problems with JAWS. I am using XP Pro and latest JAWS with IE7. I'd much appreciate it if you have recently had problems with IE8, if you will please advise me and describe any difficulties. Thanks. Cher For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS?
Wow! I never noticed that. I have made several attempts to use these tools. I get frustrated with it because some things are accessible and others are not or not obvious. Don Marang -- From: tim z200...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? But when you hit that key it opens up a new window showing the html code. At least it always does that for me and I didn't change any of its features for that part. At 09:21 AM 4/24/2010, you wrote: My guess is that the parrent document being announced is part of the technical information available in Developer Mode, which is now part of Internet Explorer 8. Pressing F12 toggles Developer Mode on and off. It provides the capability to view and dynamically modify the underlying HTML and CSS, along with the resulting DOM, that make upp the webpage. The parent document reference would be the very top item in the Document Object Model (DOM). Either you unknowingly got switched into Developer Mode or JAWS is picking up information that should not be displayed. If pressing F12 does not fix the problem, see if pressing Insert + Escape allows JAWS to read the page correctly. Don Marang -- From: Negoslav Sabev neg...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? Oh, it's strange. On some computers IE8 is really slow, but does not crash so often. The perrent document window might be in connection with a pdf document. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Don and Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? I installed IE8 when it first came out... with whatever version of JAWS was current then... perhaps that was 10? I'm now using the latest. I was getting blank pages, crashes, and that open parent document button that another member mentioned. I rolled back to IE7 and have used it ever since. Cher -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Negoslav Sabev Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:52 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? What version of jaws? Negoslav - Original Message - From: Don and Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? That was one of many issues that I encountered. Can anyone explain how to avoid this open parent document one? Cher -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Lorah Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? I sure did, when I tried to go on the internet, the message I gog was: open paren document. The internet would not open, Don - Original Message - From: Don and Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Do you have problems with IE8 JAWS? Along with some of you, I uninstalled IE8 after a short time due to problems with JAWS. I am using XP Pro and latest JAWS with IE7. I'd much appreciate it if you have recently had problems with IE8, if you will please advise me and describe any difficulties. Thanks. Cher For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws speaking: Heading Level 1 question
Try the following to turn off heading announcements. I realize your Word document is not an HTML webpage, but I believe JAWS treats headings and such the same, whether on a webpage, PDF document, or Word document. 1. Press Insert (CapsLock if using the laptop keyboard layout) + F2, then arrow down to Configuration Manager, and hit Enter. 2. Press Control + Shift + D, to open the Default file, so the change applies to all applications. 3. Press Alt + S, followed by H, to open the HTML Options dialog. 4. Press Control + Tab until you hear the Headings and Frames Tab. 5. You should be placed on the Heading Verbosity radio buttons. Arrow down to No headings and press Enter. 6. Press Control + S to save your settings and then Alt + F4 to close Configuration Manager. If you want to handle heading announcements in unique ways or to handle level 1 headings different from level 4 headings, check out the Sounds and Speech Manager within the Configuration Manager. I have a scheme that reads level 2 headings (RSS feed headlines) and Quotes in the Daniel voice, Karen for norermal text and Speak capitals and All Caps. I do not use this scheme all of the time, but I like the effect. Don Marang -- From: Chanting Monks edi...@chantingmonks.com Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws speaking: Heading Level 1 question Hi folks, Haven't been around in a while, so apologies if this question's been done to death. Just upgraded to Jaws 11 today, and in every WORD file I open, every line (be it the first line in a paragraph or continuing text from a previous line) Jaws reads out: Heading Level 1. Needless to say, since I write screenplays, this is a problem. According to my wife, everything is still the same as it was pre-upgrade. Style in WORD is normal, and it's all plain text. And, it applies the Heading Level 1 to every line, be it the title, a single sentence, a copyright date, etc. If somebody can tell me how to stop this or what setting I need to change, basically anything before I blow my brains out (I'm on deadline, no less), much appreciated. Thanks! Best, Joe Monks For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws11 update;
I updated last night and have not seen any improvement! I am very disappointed! Especially since Freedom Scientific has been telling me for months that it will be fixed in the next update, without even taking down the specifics of my issues! I take this to mean that Freedom Scientifics' official stance is that they no longer support Microsoft's Essential components unless forced by large corporations or government agencies! Acting like a monopoly does not do anybody any good in the long run. Don Marang -- From: graham smith g.smith...@rogers.com Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws11 update; HI I have read the changes in this new version and there is no mention of Windows Live Mail improvements, anyone using it with the new version, is it better? Graham - Original Message - From: Albert Cutolo acut...@nyc.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws11 update; Usually whenever their's an update to jaws, isn't there a place where you can read any details before you install any updates? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel problems with Jaws
Perhaps the font size on the screen is too small for JAWS to read correctly. I would check the zoom level by pressing F6 until you get to the status bar. Then Tab until you get to the zoom button and press Enter. I would think a good mix of the actual font size and magnification level would allow JAWS to read the cells. Press Insert + F, to determine the font size used in a pparticular cell. Don Marang -- From: Shari shariw...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel problems with Jaws Thank you. I might not have been using the correct formatting in go to. Will try again. The forms I'm working with are very cumbersome, with lots of cells and lots of data and text in cells. With Jaws having trouble reading and navigating, it's hard sometimes to understand the layout well enough to even know what to select. I've had some challenges with Excel, but this has definitely been the biggest so far. - Original Message - From: Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel problems with Jaws A partial solution is to use goto for selecting text. Either f5 or control-g gives you the go to dialog box. Then enter what you want to select. For example if you want to select rows 1 through ten, you would type f5, then 1:10. You can select contiguous cells, joining them with colon as above, or non-contiguous cells, joining them with comma. I would have thought that unloading and reloading JAWS would straighten things out when you're trying to read, though. Excel is hard for JAWS, being so densely formatted, but usually unload/reload unscrambles it. Good luck! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and Buttons not working
I can usually get JAWS to recognize controls when I encounter this problem by refreshing the virtual buffer with Insert + Escape. Don Marang -- From: John M. jobhun...@box547.com Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and Buttons not working Hi Scott: I have the same problem with Firefox and Jaws 10. It also occurred with Jaws 9. When it happens to me, I can't click on buttons or links. Sometimes, if you close Firefox and then reopen it, the problem will be gone. Most of the time, I just close Firefox and open IE and do what I need to get done. This problem is why IE is still my primary browser. I'll be interested if anyone else has a solution to the problem. John - Original Message - From: Scott Meyer scottt.me...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and Buttons not working Hi went to Firefox so sendspace would not be as annoying but I can't click on the buttons by either hitting the space bar or the right mouse button. any suggestions. regards Scott For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Links with mouse over
The key combination, Insert + Control + NumPad Enter, should activate whatever JavaScript code is attached to that element. The biggest problem is figuring out what the code is supposed to do to the page. The code may add material to the page above or below the element, it could change the colors, or just about anything creative the designer can think of. I think JAWS can now announce some changes to the page, similar to frame updates. Don Marang -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:53 PM To: Jaws-Users-List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links with mouse over What is the key combination again for enabling links that say mouse over? For instance, on a web site I'm on now the following is said link parts service on mouse over: I've tried several things to activate it but none work thanks Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Links with mouse over
I do not think JAWS attempts to understand what the mouse over JavaScript will do, or analyze the new additions to the page to determine what has been added. As previously stated, JAWS reports the line where the new content has been placed. The new content could be anything, like explanatory text, similar to a ToolTip. It could be an entire new submenu or. However, I can not imagine a case where that would not be a bad design. Yeah, I just looked that up in the JAWS help, which stated, Jump to a specific line with J, And return to the starting point before the jump with Shift+J. At least this helps you move to the new content and easily get back, if needed. Don Marang -- From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links with mouse over If there is any change, it will reference the change at line number xxx. XXX being that specific line number. Then, hit J followed by the line number it referenced to jump to that line. Steve - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links with mouse over The key combination, Insert + Control + NumPad Enter, should activate whatever JavaScript code is attached to that element. The biggest problem is figuring out what the code is supposed to do to the page. The code may add material to the page above or below the element, it could change the colors, or just about anything creative the designer can think of. I think JAWS can now announce some changes to the page, similar to frame updates. Don Marang -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:53 PM To: Jaws-Users-List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links with mouse over What is the key combination again for enabling links that say mouse over? For instance, on a web site I'm on now the following is said link parts service on mouse over: I've tried several things to activate it but none work thanks Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Labeling buttons in flash player
As far as I know, it is not possible in JAWS to label the Flash buttons. It is not able to label items within an object. Adobe claims that accessibility features will be vastly improved and more importantly, enabled by default. These improvements will be in the next major release. Most of their testing is done with NVDA. I hope it works just as well with JAWS. Don Marang -- From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Labeling buttons in flash player Hi I was wondering how to label a button in flash player? When I go to netflix.com and use the online player I can see several buttons that are labeled things such as button 16, button 18 ETC. Is it possible for JAWS to discover what these buttons do? Is it possible to rename a flash player button? Thank you. God bless, Mark Jesus Is Lord! Pendleton Redeemer http://pendletonepiscopal.org/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Forms mode in google.co.uk
I think Google is doing something funky with the main page! The USA site does the same thing. I have been pressing F5, then Insert + Escape. This only works part of the time. I will try your tip. The edit box on the results page works fine. Perhaps I should make my home page a Google results page forr something useful. That way I will not have issues typing in the search box. Don Marang -- From: Grand Theogonist grandtheogon...@googlemail.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:15 AM To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Forms mode in google.co.uk Hi Sometimes when I open up google.co.uk - which is my homepage and JAWS 11 goes into forms mode in the search edit box, the text I type doesn't get entered into the edit box. If I exit the edit box and return I get the same behaviour; no text. As I type, if I attempt to backspace I just get blank repeated over and over. I have to reload the page to be able to enter text. So, not exactly the end of the world I know, but I find I have to check to see if I am entering text every time I use google which is a little irritating. Any ideas; oh, I have repaired my installation of JAWS 11 to no effect. Cheers Karl __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4978 (20100326) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A Windows Live Mail thing I have notice with Jaws.
Thanks, I will try this when Forms Mode is not acting correctly. FS does not seem too motivated to fix the modified Outlook Express scriptts to work with Windows Live Mail. I guess they bow to corporations and government agencies using Outlook. I should just install Thunderbird, load the user created scripts, and forget this fiasco! Don Marang -- From: Daniel McGee m...@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Windows Live Mail thing I have notice with Jaws. hi there, lots of things even I didn't say about jaws with windows live mail. I have not used any other email clients as I started learning email quite late. Well I knew how to do it at school but at that time I didn't have internet at home. lol But alittle tip for those who have the issue about jaws not entering into a message. When that does happen what you can do is hold your jaws key down and press the letter Z that's Z for zebra! Jaws will say use vertural pc curser off note I have not tryed this with out being in the body of the message so I don't know if it works when say tabing from the subject line to the message. But as I was saying do that command if you can't type in the body of that message and you should be able to type with out any problem! Note very important! when you have sent your message remember to turn the virtual curser back on! Because if you go to a message to read it and hit enter on that message and say you want to arrow around well you will get no feedback until you have turned it back on. I'll admit when I 1st started using windows live mail and incounted this issue I was really stuck and had to do alot of shift tabing and tabing to finally get into the message to type away. And it could be a long process or a short one. and just by chance I pulled this keystroke from memory and it hasn't let me down yet! The reason I am writing about this is because it might happen to someone else and if they was like me and completly stump and didn't have a clue what to do well I hope this keystroke will come in handy for all you people! I know it did for me! If any one has got any more tips for windows live mail then I would love to hear them! I mean that's what part of life is isn't it? For people to help each other! Many Thanks. Daniel -- From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Windows Live Mail thing I have notice with Jaws. Less hope jaws 12 which probably will be coming this year fix them. I am also using the same email program in window 7 -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Windows Live Mail thing I have notice with Jaws. Yes, I get that as well on my Windows 7 computer. I also get annoyed that it does not announce autocompletion canidates in address fields, several of the scripts, Alt + 1 through 6, to get to header fields do not work, the Folder pane does not accept first character navigation, and sometimes it refuses to go into forms mode when composing mail. And all of these annoyances are using JAWS 10! The JAWS 11 scripts are so bad, I have to switch back to version just to read mail! Don Marang -- From: Daniel McGee m...@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A Windows Live Mail thing I have notice with Jaws. Hi everyone, I subject line says it all. Let me explain. I was just wondering has anyone notice this? I don't know if its a Jaws issue or a wlm issue but hear it goes. Basicly when I am looking at a message say for example in this mailing list, and I want to go onto the next one. I would hit alt then left arrow to move to the next unread message and jaws moves to it. But hear is the slight problem sometimes or quite a lot I can't define how offten it happens because its very ramdom but jaws will focus on the contact button so then I have to shift tab to hear the message. I don't know if its a problem for some people but sometimes I find it a little fustrating. Just cureious if anyone has notice this as well. Many Thanks Daniel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] DVD issue!
The problem you are faceing is the DRM copy protection. Microsoft has been over zealous in enforcing this DVD! They require that no other video drivers are installed on your computer that might be attempting to copy the video. Unforrtunately, they do not distinguish between these pirate programs and the Freedom Scientific Video Mirror driver. In effect, they are accusing all JAWS users of being pirates! This could get serious if the International treaty to prevent counterfeiting gets enacted. The current leaked proposal states that if anybody is reported to be performing acts of piracy 3 times, like illegal downloads, will be banned from the Internet for life! This is not a conviction from a court, just a letter from your ISP, or other accusation could be enough. Try using another media player, such as VLC Media Player or WinAmp. They should play the DVD just fine. I like VLC because it is easy to move directly to the main title, the movie, from the menus. Don Marang -- From: Daniel McGee m...@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:59 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] DVD issue! hello everyone, as my subject line says I have an DVD issue! This DVD I am trying to play is called Randall and Hopkirt decease. When I load the DVD player with windows media player I get the following message. Windows Media Player Windows Media Player cannot play this DVD because it is not possible to turn on analog copy protection on the output display. Try installing an updated driver for your video card. Close Web Help I have tryed following the instructions that dialog sents me and basicly it said either to do a check for updates with microsoft or to see if I have got any other DVD software installed and to basicly run that software and re run the dvd with windows media player and that should of fixed the issue. And the final sergestion was to update my drivers. Which I don't have a clue about how to do it. Just so people know I have run other DVD's on my computer and they have worked so I don't know why this perticular dvd won't play. Has anyone incounted this issue and could give me advice on how to install the latest drivers if it comes to that? I know this isn't really a Jaws issue but I am stumpt and never had this issue before. Many Thanks Daniel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live email question
Select the undesired email message in the message list. Then press the Applications key, up arrow to the Junk email submenu, right arrow to open the submenu and select Add Sender to Blocked Senders List. Don Marang -- From: Kimsan blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live email question Hi, I'm using jaws 11 and windows live. How do I block someone and no longer receive emails from them? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws frustrations with windows mail
Maybe your BF is more popular? I think your problem is that somewhere your email from friends is getting tagged as SPAM and being redirected to your Junk Mail folder. First check the Junk Mail folder in Windows Mail. If you see mail in this folder that should not be tagged as SPAM, add this address to your Safe Senders List by performing the directions below. Select the desired email message in the message list. Then press the Applications key, up arrow to the Junk email submenu, right arrow to open the submenu and select Add Sender to Safe Senders List. You may need to perform a similar task on the website for your POP3 mailservice, such as Gmail, Yahoo, or your ISP. I was shocked at what Google was withholding from me! Don Marang -- From: Stephanie Smeader cu...@shaw.ca Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws frustrations with windows mail Hello everyone I have a slight problem with windows mail! Sometimes I check my email and I don't always get the same emails as my bf! I'd like to know why this is going on! It's getting frustrating for me to check my emails and not get the same amount of email as my bf does! Any suggestions as to why this happens to me about 80% of the time? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A Windows Live Mail thing I have notice with Jaws.
Yes, I get that as well on my Windows 7 computer. I also get annoyed that it does not announce autocompletion canidates in address fields, several of the scripts, Alt + 1 through 6, to get to header fields do not work, the Folder pane does not accept first character navigation, and sometimes it refuses to go into forms mode when composing mail. And all of these annoyances are using JAWS 10! The JAWS 11 scripts are so bad, I have to switch back to version just to read mail! Don Marang -- From: Daniel McGee m...@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A Windows Live Mail thing I have notice with Jaws. Hi everyone, I subject line says it all. Let me explain. I was just wondering has anyone notice this? I don't know if its a Jaws issue or a wlm issue but hear it goes. Basicly when I am looking at a message say for example in this mailing list, and I want to go onto the next one. I would hit alt then left arrow to move to the next unread message and jaws moves to it. But hear is the slight problem sometimes or quite a lot I can't define how offten it happens because its very ramdom but jaws will focus on the contact button so then I have to shift tab to hear the message. I don't know if its a problem for some people but sometimes I find it a little fustrating. Just cureious if anyone has notice this as well. Many Thanks Daniel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 question
Pressing Shift + Tab from the Desktop will place you in the Notification Area of the Task Bar, near the Clock. I guess there is an icon or graphic in this area that will minimize all windows to show the Desktop. Since you did not have any windows covering the Desktop, this would probably have no effect. Don Marang -- From: Kimsan blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:17 PM To: jaws list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 question Hi, I have been meaning to post this question but kept forgetting. When I am on my desktop sitting on the listview of ICONS and I do a shift tab, it says show desktopbutton. What is that and if activated what does it do? And before someone states click on it and find out, well I have already tried it and no response. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 question
I always disabled the Quick Launch Toolbar, so I am unclear. But as I remember, the Notification Area, also called the System Tray , is at the far right of the bottom of the screen and thus just before the Desktop in the forward cycle. By using in conjunction with the Shift key, this would cycle the other direction. However, I am unclear where the Quick Launch Toolbar is normally located. Don Marang -- From: Kimsan blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 10:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 question I think in vista when you shift-tabbed from the listview of the desktop you would land on the quick launch right? So windows 7 just took the quick launch away? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 question Pressing Shift + Tab from the Desktop will place you in the Notification Area of the Task Bar, near the Clock. I guess there is an icon or graphic in this area that will minimize all windows to show the Desktop. Since you did not have any windows covering the Desktop, this would probably have no effect. Don Marang -- From: Kimsan blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:17 PM To: jaws list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 question Hi, I have been meaning to post this question but kept forgetting. When I am on my desktop sitting on the listview of ICONS and I do a shift tab, it says show desktopbutton. What is that and if activated what does it do? And before someone states click on it and find out, well I have already tried it and no response. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 and windows seven
What email client are you using? Don Marang -- From: Steve Stewart stev...@suddenlink.net Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:16 AM To: Jaws-users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 and windows seven I am using jaws 11, and windows seven and this is my problem. when ever I try to reply to an email, it says no more fields can be found. no matter what letter I hit. does any one know what I can do? Steve Stewart C n D Moderator atthemarket Owner E-Mail; stev...@suddenlink.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor
The JAWS cursor moves around the mouse pointer. You said that you already know that the NumPad - (minus) key puts you in JAWS cursor mode Insert + NumPad - (minus) moves the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor where the focus is currently placed, and NumPad + (plus) will return you to the normal PC cursor mode. Yes, the Insert + R keystroke sets the JAWS cursor restriction. In JAWS 10 these options are; Application (default), real, current, focus, frame, and unrestricted. These restrictions will not let the mouse leave the specified container, normally staying within the application's window. This prevents hearing unrelated information, like Desktop Icons, from being spoken while poking around. Unrestricted mode lets you move the mouse anywhere on the screen. There are many ways to move the mouse around at this point and have JAWS announce what is underneath. The PageUp key will move to the top of the window, the PageDown key to the bottom of the window, the Home key will move to the left side of the window, and the End key will move to the far right side of the window or container. You can simply use the arrow keys. Pressing Control with either the Left or Right Arrow keys will move to the next item in the container, such as the next piece of text or graphic. There are other combinations, such as holding down the Alt key while using the Arrow keys that moves the mouse in different increments. Someone else might want to specify further. I don't really use these keys. Typically, you will want to click on an item with the NumPad / (divide) key or right click using the NumPad * (multiply) key on the object under the mouse cursor. Another useful key is Alt + Delete, which announces cursor information. It will say the cursor mode which is active, the absolute X, Y position in pixels, the current restriction if not using the PC cursor, and many times the percentage of the way down in a scrolling window. The percentage is handy in browser windows as well. The best way to understand the PC cursor mode is to play around and explore. Don Marang -- From: Jeronimo Schöber i...@masterid.de Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor Hello, I know this may sound stupid but I realize that I don't really know how to work with the jaws cursor efficiently. I know how to switch back and forth and how to move the jaws cursor to and from the pc cursor. I know that Jaws-key+r does somehow switch the area in which the Jaws cursor is able to move. But actually I don't quite realize the differences betwenn the areas. Any hints are greatly apreciated since I need to navigate a program that is not accessible by using the pc cursor allone. Thanks Jeronimo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 and windows seven
JAWS 11 does not work well for me either! I am using Windows Live Mail on Windows 7. To read and compose mail, I switch from JAWS 11 to JAWS 10. JAWS 10 has a few quirks with Windows Live Mail, but is useable. Freedom Scientific promised me about a month ago that a new update of JAWS 11 should fix all of these issues. I have not seen any updates yet. If this sounds too frustrating for you, you might want to consider using Thunderbird. Users have developed scripts to make it accessible. Don Marang -- From: Steve Stewart stev...@suddenlink.net Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 and windows seven I am using windows live mail -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 and windows seven What email client are you using? Don Marang -- From: Steve Stewart stev...@suddenlink.net Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:16 AM To: Jaws-users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 11 and windows seven I am using jaws 11, and windows seven and this is my problem. when ever I try to reply to an email, it says no more fields can be found. no matter what letter I hit. does any one know what I can do? Steve Stewart C n D Moderator atthemarket Owner E-Mail; stev...@suddenlink.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading The Clipboard
Great choice! Don Marang -- From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading The Clipboard Thanks for this. I have personally reassigned this to caps lock x. I know this should speak the contents of a frame, but I hardly use frames for my daily use. So felt the clipboard feature was more important. Chris Hallsworth E-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: www.twitter.com/christopherh40 On 07/03/2010 09:06, Donald Marang wrote: You really do not need to install another application or perform daminging finger acrobatics. That is what the JAWS Keyboard Manager is for. The hard part is figuring out which key combination is comfortable and not already taken. Perhaps the layered approach hinted about for JAWS 12 can alleviate this issue and make more combinations easily available. To set a new hotkey for this JAWS Script, SayClipboard, follow these steps: 1.Press the JAWSKey (Insert on the desktop keyboard layout and CapsLock on a laoptop layout) + F2. Select Keyvoard Manager in the list and press Enter. 2. Press Control + Shift + D, to open the default settings. 3. Press Tab to get to the list of default hotkeys. 4. Either navigate through the list to the name of the JAWS Scripts that you would like to define or press Control + F to searchh for the script that currently uses the difficult hotkey. 4. Manage to press the needed hotkey once and press Enter. 5. This will place you on the current script's hotkey assignment. To leave this hotkey alone and add a second hotkey to perform the same function, press Control + A. 6. Press your well thought out alternative for this script and press Enter. 7. You will be asked to confirm if you want to add this hotkey to the default settings. Press Enter to confirm. 8. Close the Keyboard Manager with Alt + F4. Don Marang -- From: Donnie Parrett deparr...@prtcnet.org Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading The Clipboard I need about another inch of reach to be able to do that! ~ To receive my Daily Devotion, Word Of Wisdom Daily Bible reading, please send a blank email to: donniedailydelights-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 2000 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Mike Barbara Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading The Clipboard Hi Susie, On my keyboard the keys go as follows along the bottom row, from left to right; Control, Windows/Start, Alt, Space Bar, Alt, Windows/Start, Application/Context Menu, and Control. Either Windows/Start keys can be used if you have 2 of them, as I do. The way I invoke this keystroke is ; The right little finger on the Jaws/insert key on the number pad, right thumb on the right Windows/Start key, and press the X with my left ring finger. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: susie Q To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading The Clipboard the dextarity for that is cumbersum! oh going to try the right key now susie TOMORROW IS ALWAYS FRESH WITH KNOW MISTAKES IN IT YET ANNE OF GREEN GABLES - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading The Clipboard Hi Donnie, The keystroke is Windows key, Jaws/insert key, + X. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett To: JAWS-Users Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading The Clipboard A friend of mine wants to know how to read what's on the clipboard? Thanks, Donnie ~ To receive my Daily Devotion, Word Of Wisdom Daily Bible reading, please send a blank email to: donniedailydelights-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 2000 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 10, explorer 8 issue
It sounds like the built in pop up blocker is turned on. You can turn it off in the Tools menu. If you like the feature, you can leave it enabled and force it to open the link by holding down the Shift key when hitting Enter on the link. Don Marang -- From: David. Chatten-smith davechsm...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:51 AM To: jaws users group jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 10, explorer 8 issue Hello not too sure if off topic, but i have a problem with internet explorer, i have an issue that when i click on something [ not every link], all i get is is a pop/click sound and nothing happerns?? I am using windows xp, jaws 10, and internet exp 8 please advise. thanks david uk For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How toTurn off Table Information in HTMl
In the Text Processing menu of Configuration Manager, there is a checkbox Indicate tables. I think it is here because JAWS handles tables in word and other applications that do not use HTML the same way. Uncheck this box, probably in the default Configuration file so you never hear these announcements. Don Marang -- From: Animals and Us awell...@animalsandus.org Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:04 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How toTurn off Table Information in HTMl I have been using Jaws for ten years and have Jas 6.0. Yesterday I had to reload Jaws on to the computer because of some glitches and I'm having difficulty customising it again. I like to have a lot of things switched off. At the moment I can't find out how to stop Jaws from reading out the number of columns and rows in a table also, I can't stop it from announcing the end of the table. E.G. Table with 2 columns and 5 rows and then it will say table end I have unchecked the list box for lists in Configuration Manager and also been through just about all other items in the menus and tabs, including graphics, miscellaneous, lists and tables ETC. Can anyone tell me how to do this. Thanks Aine For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question on pre-loaded back up/syncsoftwareon Seagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 PortableExternalHard Drive and jaws
Back to the original question, I tend to keep automatic backups simple. I use Karen's Replicator found on the jaws-users program page. It is completely accessible, efficient, and does not take up resources. The only way I can tell if it is currently copying files is to check the System Tray. It never slows down my computer. I backup all my data to another computer in my house every day. I also perform archives that keep separate copies of vital data, such as my Financial and Medical folders. Using tags as subfolder names for month and year, it keeps an archive copy every month. I also installed it on my daughter's computer not only to backup her data, but to make a local copy of her drawing folder where she works on her art projects. After she had a major breakdown the night before a major project was due because gimp destroyed her drawing! So now I made it automatic that a copy of that folder is made every 15 minutes using the hour as a tag for the subfolder. Now every drawing she works on has 24 copies and if she has a catastrophe, she can go back in time 24 hours to a time where her drawing was in tact. That's even better than the Omega 13! Don Marang -- From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question on pre-loaded back up/syncsoftwareonSeagateFreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 PortableExternalHardDrive and jaws I saw it on amazon, but New Egg, Tiger Direct Buy.com and so on carry it too. Just copy and paste the following into either Amazon's search field or any old search engine: Seagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Hard Drive I've got about 900 gb of stuff and I'm looking for a back up for my other external drive and figured why not get a portable one instead of another power cord desk top set up type of deal. That's why I'm interested in this particular model. I believe Western Digital has a portable drive with the same capacity, but the SeaGate has better reviews. The back up program is the only thing I wanted a bit more information. Other then that, it looks like a solid buy. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of ken d Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question on pre-loaded back up/sync softwareon Seagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable ExternalHard Drive and jaws I, also, am interested. Your link is 404 Document not found. Anythingt more up-to-date? kd - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] question on pre-loaded back up/sync software on Seagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Hard Drive and jaws Hello list, I am looking to buy the Seagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Hard Drive and was wondering if anyone's had a chance to deal with the included synchronization software that comes with it? Drives I've had in the past have come with back up/sync programs and for the most part, they havent' been that accessible. Memio comes to mind. In any event, I was just curious if from other's experiences if this pre-loaded software is pretty much the same or if it's more manageable with Jaws. You can check out the page for more specs at: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-Portable-External-ST910004FAA2E1-RK/ dp/B002SYYO3A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1266614599sr=1-2 If worse comes to worse, I guess I can do the whole cut and paste method, but I would if possible like to be able to do automatic back ups and so on. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How toTurn off Table Information in HTMl
That was my first thought as well. However, that option is not there. Since there are non HTML tables handled in several applications as well, like Word and Acrobat Reader. I should have made it clear that it would make sense in his case to press Control + Shift + D in Configuration Manager before making changes to the settings so the change will be made system wide. Don Marang -- From: tim z200...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 4:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How toTurn off Table Information in HTMl The place you need to do this is in the main configuration file for jaws. Under the html setting, lists and tables tab menu. At 09:46 AM 2/20/2010, you wrote: In the Text Processing menu of Configuration Manager, there is a checkbox Indicate tables. I think it is here because JAWS handles tables in word and other applications that do not use HTML the same way. Uncheck this box, probably in the default Configuration file so you never hear these announcements. Don Marang -- From: Animals and Us awell...@animalsandus.org Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:04 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How toTurn off Table Information in HTMl I have been using Jaws for ten years and have Jas 6.0. Yesterday I had to reload Jaws on to the computer because of some glitches and I'm having difficulty customising it again. I like to have a lot of things switched off. At the moment I can't find out how to stop Jaws from reading out the number of columns and rows in a table also, I can't stop it from announcing the end of the table. E.G. Table with 2 columns and 5 rows and then it will say table end I have unchecked the list box for lists in Configuration Manager and also been through just about all other items in the menus and tabs, including graphics, miscellaneous, lists and tables ETC. Can anyone tell me how to do this. Thanks Aine For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the most recent version of Inno Setup program
What is JSInstall? Is this referring to Jamal's JSX? Don Marang -- From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the most recent version of Inno Setup program I updated my copy of inno yesterday to the latest version 5.37 or something of that nature. It worked the same so far as I can tell with JSInstall but like you have no way to know if it created the scripts that will work with 64 bit systems. I know they work with 32 bit as I did test them here. If you wouldn't mind or anybody else for that matter please keep me informed as to any progress in this area. I created a self installing version of the Quicken 2003 scripts because somebody requested them. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the most recent version of Inno Setup program I have heard that some developers packaging their scripts directly with Inno setup were successfully able to create a 64 vit package. There is a single line needed to be added to the ISS file to enable it to properly handle the 64 bit registry. The following line needs to be added to the [Setup] section of the ISS file: ArchitecturesInstallIn64BitMode=x64 ia64 This will not effect operation on 32 bit systems. Unfortunately, I think the current version of the JAWS Scripts Exchange (JSX) program, which uses Inno Setup, simply adding this line is not enough! I have not gotten it to work yet. However, I have not attempted to update Inno Setup separately. I would like to get this to work as well, but can not test it by myself because I do not have a 64 bit system available! Don Marang -- From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] the most recent version of Inno Setup program I didn't notice when I went to grab the latest version if had built in support for 64 bit systems or not so I was hoping somebody out there might be aware of this fact depending on what the case may be. Either way let me know if you would. I'm in the middle of posting the scripts for quicken 2003 on the server and after creating them it occurred to me to check for the latest version of the Inno Setup program which is needed to create self installing script files. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question on pre-loaded back up/sync software onSeagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External HardDrive and jaws
Wow, that is the first time I saw a portable USB drive, which does not need a separate power cord, in a size larger than 750 MB. Very tempting! I do not have any experience with the Seagate software, but I have not encountered any hardware manufacturer's tools that are very accessible. Don Marang -- From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:43 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] question on pre-loaded back up/sync software onSeagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External HardDrive and jaws Hello list, I am looking to buy the Seagate FreeAgent Go 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Hard Drive and was wondering if anyone's had a chance to deal with the included synchronization software that comes with it? Drives I've had in the past have come with back up/sync programs and for the most part, they havent' been that accessible. Memio comes to mind. In any event, I was just curious if from other's experiences if this pre-loaded software is pretty much the same or if it's more manageable with Jaws. You can check out the page for more specs at: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-Portable-External-ST910004FAA2E1-RK/ dp/B002SYYO3A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1266614599sr=1-2 If worse comes to worse, I guess I can do the whole cut and paste method, but I would if possible like to be able to do automatic back ups and so on. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the most recent version of Inno Setup program
I have heard that some developers packaging their scripts directly with Inno setup were successfully able to create a 64 vit package. There is a single line needed to be added to the ISS file to enable it to properly handle the 64 bit registry. The following line needs to be added to the [Setup] section of the ISS file: ArchitecturesInstallIn64BitMode=x64 ia64 This will not effect operation on 32 bit systems. Unfortunately, I think the current version of the JAWS Scripts Exchange (JSX) program, which uses Inno Setup, simply adding this line is not enough! I have not gotten it to work yet. However, I have not attempted to update Inno Setup separately. I would like to get this to work as well, but can not test it by myself because I do not have a 64 bit system available! Don Marang -- From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] the most recent version of Inno Setup program I didn't notice when I went to grab the latest version if had built in support for 64 bit systems or not so I was hoping somebody out there might be aware of this fact depending on what the case may be. Either way let me know if you would. I'm in the middle of posting the scripts for quicken 2003 on the server and after creating them it occurred to me to check for the latest version of the Inno Setup program which is needed to create self installing script files. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft office 2010 and jaws
I tried the Office 2010 Home and Small Business Click to run edition. I wanted to try Excel and Word. The Click to run edition is a Microsoft experiment in rolling out a virtualized version of Office. It does not get installed in the typical way! When you click on the icon, instead of installing, it downloads and runs the application quickly and continues to download the application while it is being used. With the exception of Outlook, it will not interfere with other versions of Office installed on the computer. I m intrigued by the technology, but was not impressed by it's operation! I prefer to have these types of applications permanently installed locally for performance reasons. I could understand this technology for large corporation deployment over local networks, which is where I think it was derived. For some reason, Microsoft feels like it needs to respond to working in the cloud like Google Apps. In addition to severe stability problems with the Click to run virtualization, I found accessibility issues as well! Excel was completely inaccessible with JAWS 11! JAWS could not even move through the grid or respond when editing a cell! It could not read any of the data. Perhaps Microsoft made major changes to the screen layout? In the case of Excel, waiting for JAWS 12 is absolutely necessary. I did not have the same issues with Word, but could rarely open a document without a fatal error because of the virtualization. Therefore, I did not have a chance to use it very much. Don Marang -- From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft office 2010 and jaws Has anyone tested the beta version of office 2010 with jaws 11. I would like to test but I want to see if anyone is doing so and whether is a good idea or I need to wait for jaws 12 to do so. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problems reading emails, sometimes
To better solve your dilemma, could you provide a little more information? What Operating System (XP, Vista, or 7) and email client (Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Live Mail, or something else) are you using? Which versions of JAWS are effected? Don Marang -- From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] problems reading emails, sometimes There are times when I am reading an email and as I am arrowing down, what I notice is that my screen reader would halt and it would stop reading. I would need to sometimes, go back to the top of the email and read the email using the say all function. What might be the causing factor here that is causing my screen reader not fully read the entire email? Again, the problem is I am noticing that when getting toward the bottom of an email, my screen reader (jaws) would stopand why is this happening? Follow me on twitter if you like random thoughts! .twitter.com/kimsansong For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] copy entire table
There is a quick and easy way to copy tables from Internet Explorer. I do not know if the Document presentation setting matters, I just leave it set to simple layout. Press 'T' to get to the first column and row of the table you want to copy. Up arrow once to where JAWS announces the number of rows and columns in the table. Simply press F8 and the entire table will be selected. I am not sure if this is a JAWS hotkey or a Microsoft hotkey, but it works great! Now press Control + C to copy the table. The table can be pasted into Word or Excel and will retain the table structure and formats. Hope this is what you wanted. Don Marang -- From: Ann M. Medlar amedl...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] copy entire table Hi, On certain web sites, I want to copy many tables with its contents. I change verbosity for documentation presentation to screen layout so table is horizontal. When I copy info into word data in table has correct labels. I type T for table, I want to copy this table info. So I shift down arrow until I hear end of table and press control+c. I type t again and press windows+c to append about 10 more tables using shift arrow key. Is there a key stroke to select entire table? Some tables have 2 rows and some have 55 or more rows. I take all this table info from a web site copy into word for easy reading and analysis. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problems reading emails, sometimes
Sorry, I do not have any experience with either 64 vit Windows 7 or Outlook. Don Marang -- From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems reading emails, sometimes I'm using windows seven 64 bit machine using the only version of jaws that I have which is version 11. I don't think its an opporating system issue seeing I had this problem with vista as well. Nonetheless, I hope someone can help. Oops, I am also using Microsoft outlook. Follow me on twitter if you like random thoughts! .twitter.com/kimsansong -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems reading emails, sometimes To better solve your dilemma, could you provide a little more information? What Operating System (XP, Vista, or 7) and email client (Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Live Mail, or something else) are you using? Which versions of JAWS are effected? Don Marang -- From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] problems reading emails, sometimes There are times when I am reading an email and as I am arrowing down, what I notice is that my screen reader would halt and it would stop reading. I would need to sometimes, go back to the top of the email and read the email using the say all function. What might be the causing factor here that is causing my screen reader not fully read the entire email? Again, the problem is I am noticing that when getting toward the bottom of an email, my screen reader (jaws) would stopand why is this happening? Follow me on twitter if you like random thoughts! .twitter.com/kimsansong For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tax software
About three years ago we came close! That was why I stopped trying to make TaxAct work each year using old scripts. The program changes every year, but FS has never updated their original scripts. My wife hates computers and has no patience! Now we go to H R Block and the frustration is gone! I just have to forfeit a little of the refund! At least the household is peaceful! I ended up scanning in all of the documents this year anyway. I wonder if I could manage to get all of the needed data off the W2s to directly fill out the forms on the IRS site. The nice part about H R Block is they also fill out the PA state and local taxes. There is no way otherwise to fill out the local taxes electronically. Don Marang -- From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tax software I have to wonder how many of us come near getting a divorce when both spouses work on the tax return together. We don't but I am willing to bet some do. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tax software There is no such thing as importing information if you use IRS forms. You keep your own records, and start out from scratch each year. You have to know how to fill out the tax forms on your own, to use this method, or be willing to read enough to learn. Blessings, Tom Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=lVWxId5-UJTrBeQWwl8DlgAAJ1AXVFQxfSTRK35KOFGG_8t-AAYAAADNAAAYQAA= For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live!
Does that mean you deleted the Windows Live Mail scripts in the shared directory that are shipped with JAWS? I have no user scripts loaded. I have considered copying the JAWS 10 scripts to the JAWS 11 user directory. Not usually advised, but easy to reverse if it makes matters worse. It would make life easier if I did not need to switch back and forth! Don Marang -- From: Stewart A Overbey, Jr. saover...@att.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Hello Don, I certainly understand your frustrations, however, I experience none of those issues. I don't have any scripts loaded, and read the header fields by tabbing through them. Perhaps, uninstalling JAWS scripts, then uninstalling and re-installing Windows Live Mail may improve it's performance. It has a couple of minor quirks, but, after trying several different clients, I chose it because I could sync all my email accounts with my Windows Live email account. Each email program I tried had one quirk or the other, so, I find WLM is the best compromise for my needs. I hope you are able to get better performance from it, but, I would never suggest that it is the best, or easiest, just my personal preference. Blessings, Stewart Bless the Lord o my soul; and all that is within me, bless His holy name. -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Using JAWS 11 latest with Windows Live Mail, I can move between folders all works well. It will announce unread and attachment when appropriate, all is well. However, if I hit Enter on a message to read the message, it will read only about 50% of the time. Most of the time, the Delete key will announce delete but do nothing. Even using Control + D, I can only read a couple of messages before it stops reading correctly and nothing I do short of unloading and starting JAWS again will it start reading again. If I attempt to compose a message it gets confused regarding Forms Mode, and again sometimes, the only way to get it right again is to restart JAWS. These issues make it unusable for me! Strangely, the scripts that came with JAWS 10 work much better for me! Of course, there are also minor issues with both 10 and 11. The address autocomplete name does not get announced. The number of unread messages are not announced as you arrow through the folders. The last thing I remember off the top of my head is that the hotkeys Alt + 1 through Alt + 3 do not work to read those header fields to read the From, Date, and To fields. Using Alt + 6 to read the Subject is the only such header info that reads reliably. Don Marang -- From: Stewart A Overbey, Jr. saover...@att.net Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! I'm using Windows Live Mail with JAWS 11, and have no problems reading email with it. What difficulties are you having, or, how is JAWS 10 reacting differently than JAWS 11 in Windows Live Mail? -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! I am fairly sure that Windows Live Mail will not work well with JAWS 8 since I do not think Live existed at the time. I have had the best luck using JAWS 10 with Windows Live Mail! In fact, I have been switching from JAWS 11 back to JAWS 10 just to read mail and then switching back to JAWS 11 for everything else. FS claims an update is imminent. I hope it fixes this issue. Don Marang -- From: susie Q susi...@cogeco.ca Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Hi I am using jaws eight, and windows messanger and I want to use windows live, my daugher has it set for her, but Jaws does not work very well with it, I had windows live seven, and it worked well, bu now cant seem to find it at all, is there a better way to get JAWS to read the typed line, and the sent message, and the in coming message? Sue TOMORROW IS ALWAYS FRESH WITH KNOW MISTAKES IN IT YET ANNE OF GREEN GABLES For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live!
If anyone is interested, I copied the JAWS 10 scripts for Windows Live Mail to the JAWS 11 user settings directory and recompiled. JAWS 11 still will not function correctly for me. What screen resolution do you have set on the system that works reasonably well? Don Marang -- From: Stewart A Overbey, Jr. saover...@att.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Don, I did not manually install any scripts. If scripts came with JAWS 11, I never noticed. However, I just did a insert plus Q and heard that Microsoft Widnows Live Mail Version 14 settings are loaded, so, I assume there are prepackaged scripts with JAWS. -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Does that mean you deleted the Windows Live Mail scripts in the shared directory that are shipped with JAWS? I have no user scripts loaded. I have considered copying the JAWS 10 scripts to the JAWS 11 user directory. Not usually advised, but easy to reverse if it makes matters worse. It would make life easier if I did not need to switch back and forth! Don Marang -- From: Stewart A Overbey, Jr. saover...@att.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Hello Don, I certainly understand your frustrations, however, I experience none of those issues. I don't have any scripts loaded, and read the header fields by tabbing through them. Perhaps, uninstalling JAWS scripts, then uninstalling and re-installing Windows Live Mail may improve it's performance. It has a couple of minor quirks, but, after trying several different clients, I chose it because I could sync all my email accounts with my Windows Live email account. Each email program I tried had one quirk or the other, so, I find WLM is the best compromise for my needs. I hope you are able to get better performance from it, but, I would never suggest that it is the best, or easiest, just my personal preference. Blessings, Stewart Bless the Lord o my soul; and all that is within me, bless His holy name. -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Using JAWS 11 latest with Windows Live Mail, I can move between folders all works well. It will announce unread and attachment when appropriate, all is well. However, if I hit Enter on a message to read the message, it will read only about 50% of the time. Most of the time, the Delete key will announce delete but do nothing. Even using Control + D, I can only read a couple of messages before it stops reading correctly and nothing I do short of unloading and starting JAWS again will it start reading again. If I attempt to compose a message it gets confused regarding Forms Mode, and again sometimes, the only way to get it right again is to restart JAWS. These issues make it unusable for me! Strangely, the scripts that came with JAWS 10 work much better for me! Of course, there are also minor issues with both 10 and 11. The address autocomplete name does not get announced. The number of unread messages are not announced as you arrow through the folders. The last thing I remember off the top of my head is that the hotkeys Alt + 1 through Alt + 3 do not work to read those header fields to read the From, Date, and To fields. Using Alt + 6 to read the Subject is the only such header info that reads reliably. Don Marang -- From: Stewart A Overbey, Jr. saover...@att.net Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! I'm using Windows Live Mail with JAWS 11, and have no problems reading email with it. What difficulties are you having, or, how is JAWS 10 reacting differently than JAWS 11 in Windows Live Mail? -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! I am fairly sure that Windows Live Mail will not work well with JAWS 8 since I do not think Live existed at the time. I have had the best luck using JAWS 10 with Windows Live Mail! In fact, I have been switching from JAWS 11 back to JAWS 10 just to read mail and then switching back to JAWS 11 for everything else. FS claims an update is imminent. I hope it fixes this issue. Don Marang
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live!
I am fairly sure that Windows Live Mail will not work well with JAWS 8 since I do not think Live existed at the time. I have had the best luck using JAWS 10 with Windows Live Mail! In fact, I have been switching from JAWS 11 back to JAWS 10 just to read mail and then switching back to JAWS 11 for everything else. FS claims an update is imminent. I hope it fixes this issue. Don Marang -- From: susie Q susi...@cogeco.ca Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Hi I am using jaws eight, and windows messanger and I want to use windows live, my daugher has it set for her, but Jaws does not work very well with it, I had windows live seven, and it worked well, bu now cant seem to find it at all, is there a better way to get JAWS to read the typed line, and the sent message, and the in coming message? Sue TOMORROW IS ALWAYS FRESH WITH KNOW MISTAKES IN IT YET ANNE OF GREEN GABLES For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live!
Using JAWS 11 latest with Windows Live Mail, I can move between folders all works well. It will announce unread and attachment when appropriate, all is well. However, if I hit Enter on a message to read the message, it will read only about 50% of the time. Most of the time, the Delete key will announce delete but do nothing. Even using Control + D, I can only read a couple of messages before it stops reading correctly and nothing I do short of unloading and starting JAWS again will it start reading again. If I attempt to compose a message it gets confused regarding Forms Mode, and again sometimes, the only way to get it right again is to restart JAWS. These issues make it unusable for me! Strangely, the scripts that came with JAWS 10 work much better for me! Of course, there are also minor issues with both 10 and 11. The address autocomplete name does not get announced. The number of unread messages are not announced as you arrow through the folders. The last thing I remember off the top of my head is that the hotkeys Alt + 1 through Alt + 3 do not work to read those header fields to read the From, Date, and To fields. Using Alt + 6 to read the Subject is the only such header info that reads reliably. Don Marang -- From: Stewart A Overbey, Jr. saover...@att.net Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! I'm using Windows Live Mail with JAWS 11, and have no problems reading email with it. What difficulties are you having, or, how is JAWS 10 reacting differently than JAWS 11 in Windows Live Mail? -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! I am fairly sure that Windows Live Mail will not work well with JAWS 8 since I do not think Live existed at the time. I have had the best luck using JAWS 10 with Windows Live Mail! In fact, I have been switching from JAWS 11 back to JAWS 10 just to read mail and then switching back to JAWS 11 for everything else. FS claims an update is imminent. I hope it fixes this issue. Don Marang -- From: susie Q susi...@cogeco.ca Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Hi I am using jaws eight, and windows messanger and I want to use windows live, my daugher has it set for her, but Jaws does not work very well with it, I had windows live seven, and it worked well, bu now cant seem to find it at all, is there a better way to get JAWS to read the typed line, and the sent message, and the in coming message? Sue TOMORROW IS ALWAYS FRESH WITH KNOW MISTAKES IN IT YET ANNE OF GREEN GABLES For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live!
Sorry about that. I just noticed you say that you wanted to use Windows Live. Windows Live contains several pieces. You are right, you never mentioned Mail! Sorry for taking this thread off topic. Again, I do not think JAWS 8 will work with any Live components well, since Live did not exist back then. Don Marang -- From: susie Q susi...@cogeco.ca Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Hi, I dont have live mail, I have live messanger! I used seven point oh, but now cant find it again, sue - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! I am fairly sure that Windows Live Mail will not work well with JAWS 8 since I do not think Live existed at the time. I have had the best luck using JAWS 10 with Windows Live Mail! In fact, I have been switching from JAWS 11 back to JAWS 10 just to read mail and then switching back to JAWS 11 for everything else. FS claims an update is imminent. I hope it fixes this issue. Don Marang -- From: susie Q susi...@cogeco.ca Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and windows live! Hi I am using jaws eight, and windows messanger and I want to use windows live, my daugher has it set for her, but Jaws does not work very well with it, I had windows live seven, and it worked well, bu now cant seem to find it at all, is there a better way to get JAWS to read the typed line, and the sent message, and the in coming message? Sue TOMORROW IS ALWAYS FRESH WITH KNOW MISTAKES IN IT YET ANNE OF GREEN GABLES For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not saying unread
If you open the verbosity dialog with Insert + V, then press 'G' until you hear Graphics, does it indicate All, Labeled, or None? I sent you a detailed message yesterday with step by step instructions to label the graphics if needed. If the answer to the above question is Labeled, then those steps should work. Let me know if you need them sent again. Don Marang -- From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws not saying unread Hi, all This is the third time I requested help with this and got no respond. I am using window 7, jaws 11 and window live message for email. When I get emails, I do not hear unread. I did so in the beginning of using the email program but now. Help please. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not saying unread
Do the following steps to label the unread and attachment graphics in the message list, so they will be announced. The most annoying flaw in JAWS 10 for me was that the graphics for unread and attachment status were not defined in a JAWS .JGF file! I ended up labeling these graphics myself and it now works fine. 1. First make sure that within the Windows Live Mail application that it is configured to read labeled graphics. Without Configuration Manager set this way, the message status will never get read. You indicate this setting is already set to labeled. 2. Temporarily set the verbosity to read all graphics by pressing Insert + V, then press G until you hear Graphics. Press Space until it announces all, then hit Enter. . 3. Move to an unread message, then route the JAWS Cursor to the PC Cursor and switch to the JAWS Cursor by pressing Insert + NumPad minus (-) followed by the NumPad minus (-). 4. Move on top of the unnamed graphic to the left of the message by pressing Control + Left arrow. 5. Press Insert + G to label the graphic. Type in unread without the quotes, and hit Enter. 6. Press the NumPad plus (+) to make certain that the PC Cursor is enabled. 7. Move to a message with an attachment, then route the JAWS Cursor to the PC Cursor and switch to the JAWS Cursor by pressing Insert + NumPad minus (-) followed by the NumPad minus (-). 8. Move on top of the unnamed graphic to the left of the message by pressing Control + Left arrow. 9. Press Insert + G to label the graphic. Type in attachment without the quotes, and hit Enter. 10. Press the NumPad plus (+) to make certain that the PC Cursor is enabled. 11. Set the verbosity back to read labeled graphics by pressing Insert + V, then press G until you hear Graphics. Press Space until it announces labeled, then hit Enter. . Hopefully this will solve your issue. It did for me! Don Marang -- From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not saying unread Yes. It says label. No I did not get the email. Now what. Again it says label. -- From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not saying unread If you open the verbosity dialog with Insert + V, then press 'G' until you hear Graphics, does it indicate All, Labeled, or None? I sent you a detailed message yesterday with step by step instructions to label the graphics if needed. If the answer to the above question is Labeled, then those steps should work. Let me know if you need them sent again. Don Marang -- From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws not saying unread Hi, all This is the third time I requested help with this and got no respond. I am using window 7, jaws 11 and window live message for email. When I get emails, I do not hear unread. I did so in the beginning of using the email program but now. Help please. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws does not says unread message
You did not say which version of JAWS you were using. My guess is that you are using version 10 based on this problem. Freedom Scientific has done a miserable job of supporting any Windows 7 mail cclient other than Outlook! Considering that they have supported Outlook Express and Windows Mail in the past, it is unbelievable that they have little interest in supporting Microsoft's successor, Windows Live Mail. I have been told that another JAWS upddate will be coming out soon that improves the useability of Windows Live Mail. I hope they get it right this time! Many Windows 7 users have switched to Thunderbird 3 and wrote their own scripts in the community since Freedom Scientific refuses to listen to the needs of their users. To get to your problem. I had found that JAWS 11 will announce unread and attachment status in Windows Live Mail. However, it currently is very problematic to read or compose mail using JAWS 11. I have found that Windows Live Mail works reasonably well with JAWS 10! I know this makes no sense, but ask Freedom Scientific how that could happen. The most annoying flaw in JAWS 10 for me was that the graphics for unread and attachment status were not defined in a JAWS .JGF file! I ended up labeling these graphics myself and it now works fine.Try thee following steps to see if this helps. If Freedom Scientific does notget it right with the next upgrade, perhaps a migration to Thunderbird is in order. 1. First make sure that within the Windows Live Mail application that it is configured to read labeled graphics. Without Configuration Manager set this way, the message status will never get read. 2. Temporarily set the verbosity to read all graphics by pressing Insert + V, then press G until you hear Graphics. Press Space until it announces all, then hit Enter. . 3. Move to an unread message, then route the JAWS Cursor to the PC Cursor and switch to the JAWS Cursor by pressing Insert + NumPad minus (-) followed by the NumPad minus (-). 4. Move on top of the unnamed graphic to the left of the message by pressing Control + Left arrow. 5. Press Insert + G to label the graphic. Type in unread without the quotes, and hit Enter. 6. Press the NumPad plus (+) to make certain that the PC Cursor is enabled. 7. Move to a message with an attachment, then route the JAWS Cursor to the PC Cursor and switch to the JAWS Cursor by pressing Insert + NumPad minus (-) followed by the NumPad minus (-). 8. Move on top of the unnamed graphic to the left of the message by pressing Control + Left arrow. 9. Press Insert + G to label the graphic. Type in attachment without the quotes, and hit Enter. 10. Press the NumPad plus (+) to make certain that the PC Cursor is enabled. 11. Set the verbosity back to read labeled graphics by pressing Insert + V, then press G until you hear Graphics. Press Space until it announces labeled, then hit Enter. . Hopefully this will solve your issue. It did for me! Don Marang -- From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws does not says unread message Hi, I still had not heard any help with my problem. I am using window live message for email. I get new emails and it does not says unread. also jaws is not working whenever I load notepat. Help will be welcome. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.
There is always System Access Remote Access which is designed for that purpose and is much cheaper! I have been tempted just for that purpose. I am tired of crawling around the house to fix my kids' computers. I think there is currently special pricing of $10 per month. Don Marang -- From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. Be aware if you do not have it you will have to pay a one time fee of $495 ($295 if you already have the Remote Access option). I'm also not sure if you require JAWS Professional either, so that would be very costly if so. Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 I am also on Facebook. If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks. On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote: I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about tandem direct in the help file. Jerry -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop? Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 I am also on Facebook. If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks. On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote: Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two different internet connections. Jerry -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La Caille Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. Hi all. Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem? I am trying to use it but it not working right. I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop that has xp and jaws 10. But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from my laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why. Like some help please. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Move to folder option seems too have disappeared.
The key combination I previously mentioned, should be done twice quickly to make the change permanent. If you do the Tether the JAWS Cursor to the PC Cursor key combination, Control + Insert + NumPad minus (-) only once, it will toggle the setting but will revert back to the saved setting again the next time JAWS is started. Don Marang -- From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Move to folder option seems too have disappeared. Albert, great news that your tools menu is working. Mine just went bad again and, so far, the key combo isn't working for me again. Now I have to keep doing this adn wonder how I can get the cursors working right permanently. marilyn - Original Message - From: Albert Cutolo acut...@nyc.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Move to folder option seems too have disappeared. : Hello Marilyn: : : those directions were right on the money. everything is working just as it : was, before. Once I pressed those three keys, control plus jaws key and the : minus key, it worked. : - Original Message - : From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:33 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Move to folder option seems too have disappeared. : : : Albert, I didn't have to do a jaws repair to get my tools back. Actually, : someone back then suggested that as well as system restore which I also : did : not have to do. If you follow the directions I just sent from Donald on : another list, jaws should stop tracking the pc cursor and should, then, : pick : up on the main menus. In my case, the submenus were first up and the main : menus weren't speaking. However, if I did alt plus O, the main menus were : there, hiding. So try David's narrator suggestion to convince yourself : that : the menus really are there. THen, try Donald's suggestions. And if you : aren't on the blind computing list, you migiht want to subscribe as there : are others there to help. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: David davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:33 AM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Move to folder option seems too have : disappeared. : : : : Hello there; : : : : you may want to unload jaws, : : bring up narrator, : : and check to see if your OE menus are their. : : : : if so, you may need to do a jaws repair. : : this similar problem happened to someone else on another list, and, my : : suggestion of repairing jaws brought back the normal OE menus. : : : : s : : - Original Message - : : From: Albert Cutolo acut...@nyc.rr.com : : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : : Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:17 AM : : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Move to folder option seems too have : disappeared. : : : : : : Good morning Steve: : : If I perform a system restore as you suggest, won't it delete my : instalation : : of acrobat 9 point 3? then I'll have too go through the process of : : reinstalling all over again. Is it possible, that the version that I : : installed might have been a corrupted while it was being downloaded? : : : : : : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site
The video and sound work fine on my computer, but first someone needs to press the play button! I had my son activate the video since I could not find any indication of any such control on the whole page. Since you can play the video in Facebook, which probably uses Adobe's Flash,perhaps this page also uses Flash but the player embedded into the page was built in a way to make the control invisible. Another possibility is that this page uses Microsoft's Silverlight technology to display the video. I have not seen any Silverlight pages that have accessible controls. I do not think Microsoft has made it possible to make Silverlight accessible at this point. You might want to send a message to the site's webmaster to inform them that the site and webcam are not accessible. Meantime, if the video and sound work within Facebook, use that portal for now. Don Marang -- From: Kathy D'Avia kkda...@msn.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site Hello, There is a web site that has a camera in the den of a black bear named Lily. http://www.bear.org/website/ My computer will not display the video camera. Others tell me that they can see and hear the bear. Lily is going to have her cubs soon and I would like to hear them. I am running a vista home premium, 64 bit with JAWS 11 and IE 7. On Lily's facebook page there are videos and I can play them there. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kathy. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.
Not really appropriate here, but I heard about this as an option of a Build a Bundle special in a recent podcast. I have not purchased this yet, and may never. If you still need more details, contact me off list at: donald.mar...@gmail.com SeroTalk Tech Chat 47 : http://serotalk.com/feed/ Don Marang -- From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. $10? Let me know where you find that. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. There is always System Access Remote Access which is designed for that purpose and is much cheaper! I have been tempted just for that purpose. I am tired of crawling around the house to fix my kids' computers. I think there is currently special pricing of $10 per month. Don Marang -- From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. Be aware if you do not have it you will have to pay a one time fee of $495 ($295 if you already have the Remote Access option). I'm also not sure if you require JAWS Professional either, so that would be very costly if so. Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 I am also on Facebook. If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks. On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote: I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about tandem direct in the help file. Jerry -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop? Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 I am also on Facebook. If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks. On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote: Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two different internet connections. Jerry -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La Caille Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right. Hi all. Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem? I am trying to use it but it not working right. I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop that has xp and jaws 10. But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from my laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why. Like some help please. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site
There is Flash on this page. However, I am not quite sure if the streaming video from the webcam is delivered using Flash. I normally do not turn off Flash unless it causes a problem, like on paying bills on my bank's site. I then bring up the personaalized verbosity settings with Shift+Insert+V, to turn off Flash for that site only. So even with Flash turned on, JAWS does not recognize any controls on this page. There is sound on the bear.org webcam! Like I said previously, it works fine once you get sighted assistance to click the play button. Don Marang -- From: Leonard Morris lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site Sometimes you can turn Flash Movies on to bring up some controll buttons. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens dleav...@puc.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site Perhaps there is no sound with the camera? If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie - Original Message - From: Kathy D'Avia kkda...@msn.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site Hello, There is a web site that has a camera in the den of a black bear named Lily. http://www.bear.org/website/ My computer will not display the video camera. Others tell me that they can see and hear the bear. Lily is going to have her cubs soon and I would like to hear them. I am running a vista home premium, 64 bit with JAWS 11 and IE 7. On Lily's facebook page there are videos and I can play them there. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kathy. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site
I am not sure that the bear is always making noise! When my son hit the play button, the bear was eating. The mike seems to be turned way up and I hear constant noise once the webcam stream is activated. Once again, there is a play button that must be clicked to activate the stream. The web designer says that he just drops in a DenCam player object from WildEarth.tv. He is passing on my comments to the developer of this webcam player. Don Marang -- From: tim z200...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Viewing a web cam from an internet site Hit enter on lily den cam and then hit enter on NA BC web cam. They are all links, no sound At 12:06 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote: http://www.bear.org/website/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 7 Save As Dialog not Reporting Folder
A typical example is downloading MP3 files from the Internet or from RSS feeds in IE 8. I have a Podcast folder in my Download folder where I want to place this file. When I proceed to save the file, commonly by RouteingJAWSToPC, simulating a RightMouse click, and selecting Save Target as At this point, I normally press Shift + Tab twice to get to the folder view where it should show a list of folders and files of the same type within the currently selected folder. Of course, the selected folder should be the folder saved to the last time a file was downloaded. JAWS will currently not announce anything in that control. If mmy last selected folder was the Download folder, it should announce Audible, which is currently the first folder in my Download folder. If my last selected folder was the Podcast folder, it should announce the first file, if there are any files. Like I said previously, pressing Shift + Tab a third time to the tree view, provides no help since JAWS only announces the hard drive name and not the currently selected folder. I have been using the tree anyway to navigate to the desired foldder even though it was probably already selected! I wanted to see if anyone else had these problems. I installed some software that screwed up some Windows Explorer settings that JAWS did not like. I reset all views and am attempting to restore them to my preferences. I have also had problems in Windows Explorer when entering an empty folder. JAWS does not announce 0 files (something to that effect) and seems to get lost! Don Marang -- From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:24 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 7 Save As Dialog not Reporting Folder Could you give me an example of where this problem will happen then I can try and duplicate this. Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 I am also on Facebook. On 03/01/2010 05:16, Donald Marang wrote: I have noticed that when in a Save As dialog box, such as when saving a file in Internet Explorer, JAWS will not announce other items in the current folder or correctly report which folder is currently selected. Perhaps I have screwed up something, but JAWS seems lost! When the Save As dialog appears, the focus is placed in the filename control. I normally press Shift + Tab twice to hear what other files and folders are in the currently selected directory. Pressing Backspace here will go up a level and I make sure I am in the desired folder before saving the new file. If I am still confused about which folder I am in, I can press Shift + Tab once more to get to a tree view with the current folder selected. My current Windows 7 and JAWS 10 and 11 will not work in this manner. Occasionally, when on the folder control, JAWS will announce the files and folders within that folder, but most of the time, I can not get it to announce anything! Even worse, when on the tree view, It will just announce the name of the hard drive even though the correct folder has been selected! Does anybody have the same problem? Does anybody know how to make JAWS announce these things correctly? Don Marang For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Windows 7 Save As Dialog not Reporting Folder
I have noticed that when in a Save As dialog box, such as when saving a file in Internet Explorer, JAWS will not announce other items in the current folder or correctly report which folder is currently selected. Perhaps I have screwed up something, but JAWS seems lost! When the Save As dialog appears, the focus is placed in the filename control. I normally press Shift + Tab twice to hear what other files and folders are in the currently selected directory. Pressing Backspace here will go up a level and I make sure I am in the desired folder before saving the new file. If I am still confused about which folder I am in, I can press Shift + Tab once more to get to a tree view with the current folder selected. My current Windows 7 and JAWS 10 and 11 will not work in this manner. Occasionally, when on the folder control, JAWS will announce the files and folders within that folder, but most of the time, I can not get it to announce anything! Even worse, when on the tree view, It will just announce the name of the hard drive even though the correct folder has been selected! Does anybody have the same problem? Does anybody know how to make JAWS announce these things correctly? Don Marang For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix
I think Netflix currently has over 100,000 titles. Only about 20,000 are available for streaming. The President of the company, however, is a devout believer that streaming is the future and is personally pushing this direction. Don Marang -- From: Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix Is there a pretty good selection of movies available to watch online? - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix I just got a Netflix account for my family for Christmas. I also bought my oldest daughter a Roku box to stream Netflix movies directly to her TV. The Netflix site seems fairly easy to navigate, find and play movies on your PC. Silverlight seems very stable and I have never noticed any hesitation or buffering stalls yet. I have no idea if there is any way to control the movie, such as pause, rewind or fast forward. There are no controls visible to JAWS. Perhaps there are hotkeys available. I also wish there were hotkeys to adjust the volume of the movie. Don Marang -- From: Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] netflix I am thinking about changing from blockbuster online to netflix. I am interested in finding out what type of experience any of you have had with watching movies or TV episodes online. Is it jaws friendly? I know the selection isn't that great, but do they add new movies and TV episodes often? Thanks for any information. Candy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix
Not gonna happen! They use a secure transfer so that the movie can not be digitally grabbed and pirated. Don Marang -- From: Becky B reb...@nc.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:28 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix It would be good if we could use Winamp when streaming Net Flicks. Becky - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix I think Netflix currently has over 100,000 titles. Only about 20,000 are available for streaming. The President of the company, however, is a devout believer that streaming is the future and is personally pushing this direction. Don Marang -- From: Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix Is there a pretty good selection of movies available to watch online? - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix I just got a Netflix account for my family for Christmas. I also bought my oldest daughter a Roku box to stream Netflix movies directly to her TV. The Netflix site seems fairly easy to navigate, find and play movies on your PC. Silverlight seems very stable and I have never noticed any hesitation or buffering stalls yet. I have no idea if there is any way to control the movie, such as pause, rewind or fast forward. There are no controls visible to JAWS. Perhaps there are hotkeys available. I also wish there were hotkeys to adjust the volume of the movie. Don Marang -- From: Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] netflix I am thinking about changing from blockbuster online to netflix. I am interested in finding out what type of experience any of you have had with watching movies or TV episodes online. Is it jaws friendly? I know the selection isn't that great, but do they add new movies and TV episodes often? Thanks for any information. Candy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix
I might have overstated the streaming number. I noticed that Netflix does not seem to publisize these numbers. The most accurate, up to date number I could find was the November 2009 Press Release for streaming to the PS3, where they simply state thousands of titles. Not very precise. I was basing my comment on a tech podcast recently, where Leo LaPorte and Paul Thurrott were discussing Netflix. As I remember the conversation, the DVD titles are over 100,000 and the streaming titles are close to 18,000. I have no idea where these numbers come from since Netflix seems to avoid numbers. I can not understand why, unless someone has more? Don Marang -- From: Kliph phantom3...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix On the web site, it says 1000 for stream, with more to come. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix I think Netflix currently has over 100,000 titles. Only about 20,000 are available for streaming. The President of the company, however, is a devout believer that streaming is the future and is personally pushing this direction. Don Marang -- From: Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix Is there a pretty good selection of movies available to watch online? - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix I just got a Netflix account for my family for Christmas. I also bought my oldest daughter a Roku box to stream Netflix movies directly to her TV. The Netflix site seems fairly easy to navigate, find and play movies on your PC. Silverlight seems very stable and I have never noticed any hesitation or buffering stalls yet. I have no idea if there is any way to control the movie, such as pause, rewind or fast forward. There are no controls visible to JAWS. Perhaps there are hotkeys available. I also wish there were hotkeys to adjust the volume of the movie. Don Marang -- From: Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] netflix I am thinking about changing from blockbuster online to netflix. I am interested in finding out what type of experience any of you have had with watching movies or TV episodes online. Is it jaws friendly? I know the selection isn't that great, but do they add new movies and TV episodes often? Thanks for any information. Candy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix
The pages are well laid out and easy to browse and search. I wish, however, they would make each Title some type of HTML Heading level, perhaps H4. Just after a title that is instantly available to stream there will be a play link. The movie then mostly fills the screen using Silverlight from Microsoft. I can not detect any controls using JAWS. I will send them an email asking them about accessibility and find out if there are any hotkeys available and suggest some if they do not currently have any. Don Marang -- From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix So how does a person watch a movie, show, etc online using netflicks? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix http://www.netflicks.com You get a free two week trial and if you decide you don't want the service then you must cancel by the billing date listed in your account settings or it will assume you want it and charge your credit card... Sarah A. - Original Message - From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix So here's a stupid question. What's the website for the netflicks? When signing up for a plan does a person need to pay right a way or is it a month after? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Candy Lowe Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:30 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix That is the same plan I have. I signed up for it last night and love it very much. So much better than blockbuster online. I was wondering if anyone could answer this question. If I were to watch a television series online, how would I get to each episode. I know that it just starts playing from the beginning, but is there any way to stop where you left off? - Original Message - From: Kliph phantom3...@yahoo.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix Depends on what you want. I pay 15 bucks a month, but I get unlimited online playing of movies, unlimited streams to my blu-ray player or xbox360, and unlimited movies mailed to me 2 at a time. There are plans as low as 5 dollars a month, but I think you only get 1 movie at a time, and there is no online or streaming with that one. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Song Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:28 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix How much is it to do this netflicks thing? I, personally, need descriptive videos so I do the blind mice website. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliph Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Netflix I just signed up a week ago. Although watching movies directly to my blu-ray player isn't blind friendly, watching them online is. All you do is click play and it starts right up for you. And yes, they add more TV and movies each week. And if you search for something, if it's not streamable, or playable online, it will give you a date when it will be. HTH Kliphton SR (devotional distribution email address) phantom3...@yahoo.com (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Face Book) http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profileid=1487626115 (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Candy Lowe Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 4:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] netflix I am thinking about changing from blockbuster online to netflix. I am interested in finding out what type of experience any of you have had with watching movies or TV episodes online. Is it jaws friendly? I know the selection isn't that great, but do they add new movies and TV episodes often? Thanks for any information. Candy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers
Re: [JAWS-Users] netflix
I just got a Netflix account for my family for Christmas. I also bought my oldest daughter a Roku box to stream Netflix movies directly to her TV. The Netflix site seems fairly easy to navigate, find and play movies on your PC. Silverlight seems very stable and I have never noticed any hesitation or buffering stalls yet. I have no idea if there is any way to control the movie, such as pause, rewind or fast forward. There are no controls visible to JAWS. Perhaps there are hotkeys available. I also wish there were hotkeys to adjust the volume of the movie. Don Marang -- From: Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] netflix I am thinking about changing from blockbuster online to netflix. I am interested in finding out what type of experience any of you have had with watching movies or TV episodes online. Is it jaws friendly? I know the selection isn't that great, but do they add new movies and TV episodes often? Thanks for any information. Candy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] receits
The delivery receipt sends you a message when the message enters their Inbox, the read receipt sends you a message when the message is opened and read. I find the read receipt more useful. Don Marang -- From: blindguy blindgu...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:15 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] receits I was wondering what is the differences between the deliver and read receits in outlook? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave Scripts
There is a known problem installing scripts on a 64 bit system from a self installing JAWS Script Exchange (JSX) package. Until a compatible version of JSX is available and the packages are rebuilt, this will not work. In the mean time, I think the only work-around is to install the scripts on your 64 bit system manually! Don Marang -- From: Sherrie Gosling sillygoo...@charter.net Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave Scripts I installed Goldwave on my Win 7 64 bit laptop but when I downloaded scripts from the Programs page the scripts would not extract to the proper place in Jaws 11. I tried two other self extracting things that would not extract to the right places, either. Also I paid for my Goldwave key over a year ago. Is it supposed to work for newer versions of Goldwave or just the one that was current at the time? Which version works best with Jaws 11? Thanks, Sherrie Gosling -- From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:04 PM To: Jaws-Users-List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave Scripts How can I tell if I have the latest Gold Wave Scripts? The reason I ask is listening to some of Rick Harmon's Gold Wave POD casts I hear some information I do not hear when I use Gold Wave. I also don't seem to have some of the shortcut keys he describes. Is it possible the scripts need to be re compiled? If so, I need a refresher on how to do that. I also noticed in my Jaws settings folder there are Gold Wave 4 script files as well. I am using the latest version of Gold Wave. Do these need to be kept? thanks Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tv guide freeware
I use the TitanTV.com website. It works very well with JAWS! It can display a 6 hour grid of your favorite channels in a true HTML table. This makes it very easy to move through the channels and to the next or previous show. Additionally, the channel name or time is announced as you move through the grid. Just hold down the Alt + Control as you arrow around in the table. You will need / want to create a free account so that you can set your provider, preferences and favorite channels in one or more channel lineups. There are many preferences to adjust display and text sizes if you have any vision. I have a DirecTV R22 DVR, which can be programmed to record shows or download Video On Demand shows from their website. I prefer the TitanTV.com TV listings. I have written JAWS scripts to make moving around in the grid even easier. I get to the grid by pressing T, to move to the table. I then press Control + Shift + T, to enable my Table Navigation Mode, which holds down the Alt and Control keys while you are in a table. Press the combination again to exit this mode. The scripts also perform a lookup of a show that you want to record on the DirecTV DVR Scheduler mobile website if you press Control + Shift + R on that show in the grid. Of course, this only works if you have a DirecTV DVR. There are also handy hotkeys to open the current page in Firefox (Control + Shift + F), which is useful if you encounter a CAPTCHA that you want to solve with Webvisum, and a hotkey to open the current page in Internet Explorer (Control + Shift + E). The scripts work for Internet Explorer and Firefox. They are available at: http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/DirecTV.html Note that this package also has scripts for the DIRECTV2PC application and a set of scripts to adjust the application's volume. The volume scripts currently only adjust the JAWS voice volume due to a technical roadblock. If you install these scripts, you may want to respond No, when asked if you want to merge AppVolumeDefault scripts with default scripts. Don Marang -- From: Nicole goldyemo...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:34 AM To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tv guide freeware Does anyone know of any tvguide freeware tht'a Jawd accessible? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
