Re: [JAWS-Users] windows mobility center

[Scorpio Forever]

It's the Windows Quick Settings, a jump list of the most popular Windows 
Settings that you might want to tweak.


For example, one of the items in the menu is Programs and Features, a very 
popular option for those of us who do a great deal of software trials and 
the like.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows mobility center

I don't know, as I don't have Windows  8.

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know 
peace.

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On 2/17/2016 12:56 PM, anna vimini wrote:

Hi Maria,
Then what is the context menu that I am getting when I press windows key 
plus x/?Re: [JAWS-Users] windows mobility center
Anna, the menu you are getting is not the mobility center that is being 
discussed.


Maria Campbell
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peace.

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On 2/17/2016 12:39 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
If windows mobility center only works on lab tops why then do I get a 
context menu with programs and features etc listed on it?

when I press windows key plus x
and I am running windows 8.1  o
a a desk top computer

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Alan,

When that happens to me, I just save a copy on my computer, instead of 
viewing the document from the temp directory it's being held in.


I believe this has to do with the Smart Screen feature, but don't quote me 
on that.


In any case, if you do a "save as" from the file menu, then save it in your 
documents or downloads directory, it will negate the Smart Screen 
protection, and you should be able to read the document just fine.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio

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-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:43 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

Hello,



I know this topic has been discussed but don't remember the
work around if any. I'm using the latest version of the PDF
software  referenced in my subject line. Works great
opening attachments I receive via email, PDF's on my PC,
etc. However, some web based PDF documents, an example are
ones on my Prudential IRA site, when they get opened all I
hear is an open button that I cannot do anything with. Has
anyone found a way to open this type PDF document?



Best,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Account setting

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Ann,

It's the word recent, then the colon.

So it should look like this:

recent:your-e-m...@gmail.com

Hope this helps.

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Ann Marie Medlar

Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 6:44 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Account setting

Hi all,

In outlook in account you can put a verb followed by a colon then your email
address to get email messages on lists that you are on.

Does anyone remember this verb?  Cannot remember and on Windows10 and Office
13.

Unsure how to change setting.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Account setting

[Scorpio Forever]

It allows you to get your messages back from lists you're on using a G-mail 
account.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Reed Poynter

Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Account setting

Hello,

What is this used for?

Thanks,

Reed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio Forever
Sent: February-03-16 9:41 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Account setting

Hi Ann,

It's the word recent, then the colon.

So it should look like this:

recent:your-e-m...@gmail.com

Hope this helps.

Scorpio



-Original Message-
From: Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 6:44 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Account setting

Hi all,

In outlook in account you can put a verb followed by a colon then your email
address to get email messages on lists that you are on.

Does anyone remember this verb?  Cannot remember and on Windows10 and Office
13.

Unsure how to change setting.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] issue for TTS

[Scorpio Forever]

I don't believe you can do this.

You must be using the same synthesizer as the one you want to switch to.

Eloquence is only a Latin based synthesizer, and so won't switch to another 
synthesizer.


So, as long as you use one of the English Vocalizer voices, it will 
automatically switch to Hindi.


I may be wrong, and someone can correct me if I am.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Ravi Paswan

Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] issue for TTS

any can tel me is this posibal.
with in jaws I want to use the elequence and hindi vocalizer lekha as
like auto TTS.
how to do this.
because I want to my TTS is automatic change to another and another
language, text, script.
suppose I am reading a page this page wright by english and hindi or
my TTS language is automatic change.
because I don't want to use the command to change the TTS [insertCTRL+S.]
thank you reply me

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype showed up

[Scorpio Forever]

I believe it's an add-on to Internet Explorer, but I think you'll notice 
that it's a Skype for Business app, not the normal one, but, as you said, it 
can be uninstalled using the Add/Remove Programs/Programs and Features 
applet in Control Panel.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 10:03 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Skype showed up

I did not download or install Skype however this afternoon it was on my
computer. This is on a win 7 machine
running I.E.
About Internet Explorer
Version: 11.0.9600.18124
I have no idea how or from where it came.
I hope that nothing else was installed without my knowledge.
Any ideas from where it came?
I was able to remove it via the control panel.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Addressing a few Messages in: leasing a router versus purchasing one

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks, I'm addressing a few messages here, as it would seem that some
people don't know a few things about the provision of internet services
through a provider.

First and foremost, someone stated that they had countless trouble with the
rented modem, and the company never came over to fix the problem since they 
were

able to fix the issue over the phone from their offices.

Most gateway problems, and we *are* talking about gateways here, not
routers, can usually be fixed by unplugging the gateway from the power
supply, in other words, unplugging the power cord, either from the
electrical outlet, or the rear of the gateway, waiting for a count of twenty
to thirty seconds, then plugging the gateway back into the power.

This resets the gateway, and gives it the ability to pick up the IP address,
and bada-bing, bada-boom, you're connected again.

It's the same thing when you lose your wireless signal, you simply do the
routine above, and voila, your wi-fi is back from limbo.

This may be a problem with the gateway hardware, or it may be a setting
within the gateway's firmware that needs tweaking.  Since I am no mastermind
with gateways or networks, I think it's a safer bet to just unplug the darn
thing rather than sit there patiently looking for a setting that, at the end 
of the

day, has a simple fix.

Now, if it keeps happening several times a day, or even a week, then it 
would

be time to reset it, in which case, just like extracting an unextractable
CD/DVD from the CD/DVD drive with a paper clip, you can use that same paper
clip to press the reset button on the gateway, thus resetting the gateway
back to it's factory defaults.  At that point, you'll have to configure it
again, so if you weren't the person who first configured the gateway the
first day it was installed in your home, or you don't feel comfortable 
messing with your gateway's settings, then you may want to call your

ISP's tech support to get them to walk you through setting it up.

This usually involves accessing the gateway through it's internet browser
page with a username and password, if you can find the master username and
password, you'll be surprised of some of the functions you can unlock that
your ISP keeps from you.

For example, In Canada, Rogers gateways have the standard customer usernames
and passwords, and a master username and password that gives Rogers' tech
staff unfettered access to your gateway, so even if you change the gateway
access credentials, you're only changing an authorized user's credentials,
and not the master credentials, and so they'll be able to, as I said at the
beginning of the message, access your router to reset it, or reset the
settings so that what ever problem you had with the gateway disappears.

Now, please keep in mind that you are renting a gateway, not a router.

That's not to say that the gateway does not perform the functions of a 
router, but for ease of explanation, I call them gateways.  You can quickly 
tell the difference between the two because a gateway will have the main 
line, whether it be your telephone line, as is the case with A T & T, or 
cable Line, as is the case with Comcast, directly plugged into it.  A router 
does not.  It only has a connecting cable from your modem, which has the 
telephone or cable line directly plugged into it, plugged into the router.


A gateway does the job of both the modem and the router, and must be 
registered with the Internet Service provider in order to access the 
internet on their network.  This usually involves calling them with a serial 
number, or some other bunch of numbers on the back or bottom of the gateway, 
an them plugging the numbers into their system and registering your 
gateway's access.


Typically, gateways go for $75 for a refurbished/clearance model, to $350, 
depending on the quality and features you desire of the unit.


Now, if you don't have the money to afford these babies, then you have to go 
with the split option of purchasing a router, ranging in price from $25 to 
$99+, again, depending on the features the specific model has, and 
connecting it to your modem, which you will be renting from your service 
provider.


Regardless of which method you use to access the internet, whether it's a 
gateway, or a router plugged into a modem, you'll have to decide which is 
best for you, and which option you can afford.


the difference between purchasing a gateway and renting one is the warranty. 
In most cases, unless you purchase extended warranties with the unit, you'll 
get a one year manufacturer's warranty, as opposed to a lifetime warranty 
which you get when renting the gateway from your ISP.


Again, this boils down to the type and price of the gateway you decide to 
purchase.


Just like computers, gateways require maintenance, and/or break down.  if 
you purchased the gateway outright and it's past it's warranty period, 
you're S.O.L. and you're going to have to shell out another wad of money for 
a new 

Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one

[Scorpio Forever]

Sorry Rick, didn't see your message until after I sent out my reply.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Moderator 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:43 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one 


Please take this discussion off-list, it is not relevant toJaws.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Robbins" 

To: "Jaws-Users-List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:00 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one


Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network.
Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet &
TV. The cable company then installed their router and all
things functioned through the router. At that time the
router was simply part of the equipment and there was no
additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they
started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only
$3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to
$10 per month.

My question is I know there are very good routers out there.
What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is
when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your
cable provider simply blame your purchased  router and state
the problem is with that or do they actually come to the
house and inspect the cables etc.

Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the
cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase
their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So,
what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are
automatically going to say it is the purchased router and
there is nothing they can do to correct the issue.

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Express, options, finding advanced page, removing message from server

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Neil,

That's because you're looking in the application settings, and not the 
account settings.


When you press alt+T for the tools menu, assuming you're using the original 
Outlook Express, press the letter A for accounts, and in the resulting 
dialog box, arrow up or down to the account she's trying to change the 
setting on.


Once highlighted, press alt+P for the properties dialog box, then 
control+tab to go to the Advanced tab.


One thing I would recommend is to leave the copy of messages on the server, 
but check the box after that that says, "Remove from server when deleted 
from the 'deleted items' folder", this will ensure that she's got a copy of 
the messages she wants to keep or archive, but deletes the messages she 
doesn't want to keep when she clears her deleted items folder.


Just a thought, but feel free to act according to the person's needs.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Express, options, finding advanced 
page,removing message from server


Hello Gang:

I have a friend using outlook express. She has way too many messages on her
Frontier server. I thought there was a way to go to the advanced page and
check/uncheck some boxes concerning messages on her server.

However, we could not find the location to do that. I went to tools and
options. Found the general page, send/receive, maintenance, and so forth.
But, I never found an advanced page. I was almost sure there was an advanced
page to accomplish this task. No luck.

So, without look express, how do you get to the location to manage things
on the server? I think we tried all menus.

After going to tools, the first thing is the send and receive sub menu.
But, the only thing I heard there was "control m." No pages came up.

So, I know you know the answer. Thanks for your future response.

Neil



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions for converting M4A to MP3 files?

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Ron,

Here's a tutorial I wrote on how to use the batch converter, a feature that 
GoldWave has.


This will allow you to do more than one file at a time, and you don't have 
to sit there and wait for the file to decompress in the main window.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

***Begin Tutorial***

If you are in the Gold Wave main window, once it opens up, if you press the 
alt+F to get to the file menu, then press the letter B for batch 
conversions, it will open up another dialog box that you can do batch 
conversions with, or you can choose to do just one file, it's up to you.


Once in that dialog box, tab to the button that says add, and press the 
space bar.


Another dialog box will pop up, similar to the save as dialog box, so if you 
know exactly where the file is, go ahead and type it in.  If you don't know 
the exact file location, just do a shift+tab to the window just above the 
one you're in, and backspace four or five times, or until your screen reader 
reads out my documents.


Once it says that, just go ahead and find the folder where the files are 
that you want to convert.


Once you find the files, go ahead and select them, either, contiguously, or 
non-contiguously, and tab to the open button and press the spacebar.


Once you press the open button, you'll land back on the add button.  If you 
have more files you want to convert, just press the add button and go 
through what I just outlined above.


If you don't have anymore files to convert, you can tab to the check box 
that says, convert files to this format.  Make sure this box is checked, so 
you can tell it what to convert the files to.


Once you check that box, tab down to the combo box that asks you what file 
type to convert the files to.  You must want to select the exact file type 
for all the files you want to convert.  You can't do one file type for some 
of the files and another file type for another bunch of files you selected. 
That's why this function is called the batch conversion feature of Gold 
Wave.  You can only convert the files to the same file type.


Once you select the file format you want to convert the files to, tab down 
to the bitrate and frequency selection.
I'm going to assume, for time's sake, that you already know all about 
bitrate and frequency rates, and just continue on from here to the next 
step.


Once you set the bitrate and frequency rates, do a control+tab over to the 
file locations tab to set where you would like Gold Wave to save the 
converted files once their done.


You have two choices here.

You can either choose to save the converted files in their original folders, 
or save them in a different folder.  This I leave up to you, and I can tell 
you that this tab is pretty much self-explanatory, so go ahead and make your 
settings as you see fit.


Once you've made your selection, just tab over to the button that says 
begin, and press the spacebar.


Once a dialog box pops up, with an ok button, you're files are done 
converting, and you can just press the ok button.


You'll land back on the begin button, so just tab over to the cancel button, 
then you'll land on the Gold Wave main window.  You can just alt+F4 out of 
that, and you can go delete the pre-converted files.


Just make sure you clear your recycle bin, as those files will use up a lot 
of space on your computer.


I would also recommend you check the files for length and bitrate choice, as 
you can always go back into your recycle bin and restore the files you 
deleted, so I suggest you check the files before you empty the recycle bin.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, and I'll endeavour to 
answer them as quickly as possible.


Victor


-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions 
forconvertingm4afiles to mp3 files?


   Thanks Keven.
I'm now going to have toinstall goldwave.
I currently have VLC installed though.
So I deeply appreciate this letter.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can i get step by step instructions for
convertingm4afiles to mp3 files?

well with GoldWave all that is needed to do is load your file into GoldWave
after jaws announces file decompression just press alt key, arrow right to
effects then arrow up to convert (sometimes I hear jaws announce invert but
there is no invert so go ahead and select it)
then just alt key select file menu arrow down to save as after typing the
file name if you want to name the file any different  press tab select the
file type you want then tab to save.  your file should save where the
original is  if it's the same name there will be two one in the original
file format and the other in the file format you selected.
I don't know if you can convert file formats in VLC

-Original 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Might have come across another JAWS problem.

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Ron,

I'm assuming that you know that Control+Shift+Right arrow is for selecting a 
word for copying, that isn't the actual keystroke to copy, right/


Just want to make sure of that.

Sorry If I'm offending you.

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:46 PM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Might have come across another JAWS problem.

I just tried to hold down on the left ctrl, shift and the right arrow key to 
copy a word to the clipboard.
I even called my dad in to verify to make sure if the word was being copied 
to the clip board.

 1.. Since I’m typing this letter o the same keyboard to the list.
 2.. It has to be a JFW problem with j17 and win 10.
Wouldn’t you think?
Something to think about.
Ron
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Re: [JAWS-Users] music stuff and more.

[Scorpio Forever]

I'm confused as to why people have stopped using this program?

Just because it's not being supported anymore, doesn't make it any less of a 
great media player.  It just means we won't see anymore versions past the 
current one.


Is there any reason people are stopping it's use?

Just curious because if I'm missing something, then maybe I should stop 
using it also.


Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Bobb Wiley

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] music stuff and more.

I have a couple of questions which may or may not be related, or even
relevant. I am running windows 7 and jaws 16.

I am currently using winamp as my music program. But, since it’s no longer
supported I’m thinking of using something else. I have VLC on my computer,
and it works fairly well, but I miss the enhancements that jaws scripts give
to winamp. I also have a copy of windows media player on my hard drive, but
I hate it with a passion, but I might be talked into updating it and trying
it again. So any recommendations for a replacement for winamp?

Second question, what are rapsody and spotify? Does one work better than the
other with jaws?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Bob


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets

[Scorpio Forever]

There's also the option of getting your employer to purchase a single ear 
headset with an ear loop, instead of an actual headband, that way you can 
have Jaws flowing out of one ear, and the phone call from another ear, using 
a separate headset on each ear.


These are available pretty much anywhere, Best Buy, Staples, 
Wal-Mart/Amazon, etc..


You can also employ a second sound card through which you can filter Jaws, 
while the phone call comes through the main sound card, that sort of thing.


Unfortunately, there are so many options for doing this, but none that will 
allow you to use the same sound card, as that is undoable, unless you go 
into the volume mixer, and move each sound to the left and right  ear.


For example, opening the sound mixer will give you the ability to move Jaws 
sounds to the right ear, while allowing you to move the main sound, or what 
ever application you use for the phone calls to move to the opposite ear.


Just thinking out loud here, but I think this would be the most effective 
and most inexpensive.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets

I've been using JAWS for 19 years and so far have not encountered that
ability. Honestly though that might very well be an issue with sound card
technology more than anything else.

-Original Message- 
From: Boston, Jason W

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets

Hello all,
I was wondering if there is a way to force jaws to only play in the left or
right channel? I use a headset at work for calls and I would like it if I
could set at least jaws to only come to one ear and then I can set the phone
calls to be heard in the other ear. I have a very hard time listening to
jaws and the phone through the same ear.

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets

[Scorpio Forever]

My apologies for my last post, as I gave incorrect information regarding 
moving the sound from the dual channel to the single one.  It would seem 
this is not possible, and my only explanation for thinking this could be 
done was that I was listening to a podcast on Winamp, and I could change the 
channels on that application.


Anyway, I am sorry for the misinformation.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets

In all the years I've used JAWS, it's never been set up to allow channeling
to a single side. Appears to be a purely monaural signal fed to the sound
driver.

I use a Plantronics headset specifically designed for this need. Left side
is telephone plus boom mike, right side is sound card output. They also sell
a sound card dongle designed to work with this splitting.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 07:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets


I did that with a piece of custom hardware when I was working. One of the
field engineers made a splitter box for me. It had two inputs on one side
and one output on the other side. The box was a plastic box about a little
smaller than a cigarette package. Inside the wires from the sound card went
to one side of the stereo jack for the headphones. The phone wires went to
the other side along with the transceiver for the mike. At the time the cost
was about $9 for the parts. If you know any ham radio operators they should
be able to make one for you very easy. Also some of your computer support
technicians may also be able to make the box. I retired in 1999 and about 2
years ago while cleaning up I tossed it. I had not needed it since I retired
and then a few weeks ago I really could have used it when on the phone with
an Apple support tech.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets

I've been using JAWS for 19 years and so far have not encountered that
ability. Honestly though that might very well be an issue with sound card
technology more than anything else.

-Original Message- 
From: Boston, Jason W

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW and balance of sound for headsets

Hello all,
I was wondering if there is a way to force jaws to only play in the left or
right channel? I use a headset at work for calls and I would like it if I
could set at least jaws to only come to one ear and then I can set the phone
calls to be heard in the other ear. I have a very hard time listening to
jaws and the phone through the same ear.

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: [JAWS-Users] beware-Microsoft-plans-to-push-windows-10-on-seven and eight users

[Scorpio Forever]

I'm with Jim on this one.

I have to acknowledge that Windows 10 has boosted the performance of my 7 
year-old clunker quite nicely.  That's not to say there aren't bugs with 
Jaws and Windows 10, but as with previous versions of Jaws and Windows, we 
have to simply make due with what we have, and find alternative ways of 
doing what we want until Freedom Scientific comes around with an update that 
fixes the problem.


Having said that Gerald, where are you seeing all the complaints from 
current Jaws users grieving about upgrading to Windows 10.  I've heard 
nothing but positive remarks about Windows 10, and though some of it's 
features are unwelcome, such as no say over what updates to install, or some 
other things I haven't quite gotten the hang of yet, I've seen all the 
positives Windows 10 has to offer.


In Gerald's favour though, I have to admit the parallels to various high 
tech horror movies where computers all over the world are forced to install 
a certain operating system, only to have the operating system launch nuclear 
warheads, killing off half the population of the world, then using the video 
screens, enslaving the rest of the population to keep it's machines running, 
meanwhile, a small but dauntless band of computer users and hackers, mostly 
blind because they couldn't see the video screens, use Jaws to undermine the 
operating system and bringing it down.


I mean, how many horror movies have we seen like this?  LOL.

Anyway, I don't think you have a right to complain about something, without 
having tried the something you're complaining about Gerald, otherwise  you 
become one of those religious televangelists who condemn shows and movies 
without actually having watched the shows or movies they're condemning.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 8:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users]beware-Microsoft-plans-to-push-windows-10-on-sevenand eight 
users


Hi Gerald,
You are a perfect example of Why are blind people panicking, wining,
warning, stressing out, being
anguished, and over all complaining about something they have not tried yet.
No one is forcing you to upgrade to w-10!
But some day when you upgrade, you will be glad you did.
In the mean time, all these warning so called emails are a waist of time to
read.
They do no good, they do not edify the Blind user of Jaws.
They ask, or answer, no questions.
So, again, I ask, What is your point of this kind of an email?
At least I try to help people learn a new system, instead of trying to
discourage them from trying it like you.
So, come on, can't you be positive, is your computer life with Jaws that
bad?


Jim Flusche:

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-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]
beware-Microsoft-plans-to-push-windows-10-on-sevenand eight users


Is that so?  Microsoft has a special, dedicated hot line just for JAWS users
of Windows 10?  Please provide this number, if you don't mind. I know they
have an accessibility hot line, but I was not aware that they also have
another hot line just for JAWS users.   And if Windows 10 is so wonderful,
why are so many users on other lists complaining about it and inquiring
about how to roll back to Windows 7? And if I attempt to install Windows 10
and screw up my computer in the process , MS will send a technician to my
home to fix it if I explain to them that I am blind and do not have sighted
help on hand?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]
beware-Microsoft-plans-to-push-windows-10-on-sevenand eight users

Hi Kinson,
If you love w-7, you will love w-10.
No need to worry or to give out warnings, about Microsoft wanting people to
upgrade to w-10.
this is an advantage to all computer users of w-10.
Sense Microsoft has made w-10 universally freely available for desktops,
laptops, tablets, and phones and wireless devices of all sorts.
They can focus on making this universal w-10 operating system better for all
users.
So, everyone benefits, we the users of assistive technology, do not have to
worry about w-10 either.

Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 2016 Versus Microsoft Essentials

[Scorpio Forever]

I would also like to add that I've used MSE since it's release, and while 
it's initial release left much to be desired, Since Windows 7, it's been 
terrific.


I have not been infected at all since it's installation, and if you're 
getting that many infections, then maybe it's time you reviewed your 
downloading habits, and your e-mail security settings. If you're careful 
about what you download, and don't just download indiscriminately, there's 
no reason why one would get a virus.


Keep in mind that I am talking viruses and not spyware or malware, as those 
are more like tracking beacons and items that are used to track your usage 
on the Internet, and those can't be caught just using one program.  In order 
to get complete results, one must use multiple malware and spyware detection 
utilities because, as you may or may not know, there is no central database 
of definitions in which to draw from, and so each company has their own list 
of definitions.


Regardless of which, I don't think viruses are as rampant as these programs 
would like us to believe, and with a modicum of caution and a once a week 
scanning, one can avoid the hassles of viruses and their kin.  Grins.


Hope this helps.


Scorpio
-Original Message- 
From: Mike

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 2016 Versus Microsoft Essentials

Neil,

I do not know what version of Windows that you are running, but MSE will not
on Windows 8 or later. However, prior to Windows 10, Windows Defender was
not secure enough to trust as your only antivirus program. In Windows 10
however, it has been upgraded, and is said to do a pretty good job. If you
are lookking for a free solution, there are scarcely few options out there.
I would recommend Vipre antivirus or Internet security, among the paid
antivirus programs, it does seem to be the most accessable and reliable
product out there. I believe that a 1 PC, 1 year license will run around
$40, how ever, a lifetime subscr iption only cost about 2 years worth of
subscr iptions. This can be used at no further cost for the life of your
computer, and if you have more than one computer, they offer a 3 PC license
and some larger ones. There is a tutorial on how to use McAfee with Jaws on
the Windows 10 and Jaws mailing list web page, and it sounds as if it could
also be very accessable, though I have no information of its cost. You would
be welcome on that list if you would like to subscribe and download the
tutorial. Good luck in your search.

Mike
mike122e...@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 11:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 2016 Versus Microsoft Essentials

Hello Gang:

About 2 weeks ago, a VA rep, with my permission, put AVG internet security
on my two computers. AVG assassinated JAWS. She recommended that it be
removed until "AVG gets their problem fixed."

By the way, when she installed AVG, she did not choose to make JAWS an
exception to AVG.

Her suggestion now is to install Microsoft Essentials, as the anti-virus
software.

I don't know one anti-virus software from another. I just know, in the
past, I have had AVG, without any problem.

Any recommendations between AVG and Microsoft Essentials?

Thanks a bunch. Neil



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave

[Scorpio Forever]

Kevin,

That's what the list is here for.  I am, by no means, an expert on GoldWave, 
just simply did a few tutorials on a few features.  I actually think that 
David has a couple of them on his site, but I'm not sure, but if I can't 
answer your question, I'm sure someone else will know.


For example, I am perplexed by a phenomenon wherein the scripts are not 
working for my desktop computer, but they're working fine on my laptop 
computer.  Aside from the computer's size, the only other difference between 
the two computer is that I upgraded from a Windows 7 on my desktop, and from 
a Windows 8.1 on my laptop.  Everything else, Operating system, Windows 10 
Home Premium, screen reader, Jaws latest build, and GoldWave versions, 5.69 
are the same, yet specific areas on the GoldWave screen and Jaws functions 
simply aren't being voiced, and the edit boxes seem to have disappeared, or, 
at least, the information in them.  LOL.


Either way, like I said, if I have the answer to your question, I'll be more 
than happy to answer it.  Smiles.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave

thanks, now I have someone to ask for help using Gold Wave.
I really don't know how to use it, just use it to convert audio types,basic
noise reduction and other simple things.

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave

Hi Kevin,

Sorry I'm responding so late on this, but life got in the way.  LOL.

Anyway, you don't actually have to have an open file in order to use the
Batch conversion utility.

Simply open up the GoldWave application, then press alt+F to go to the file
menu, then the letter B to open up the Batch Conversion utility.

Once the dialog box opens up, add the files you wish to create the effect on
and then control+tab to the Process tab. where you'll land on an empty
field.

Once there, tab to the add effect... button and press your spacebar.

In the resulting dialog box, you'll land on a tree view with several
branches you can open up.

For example, mine currently contains a GoldWave branch, a Direct X option, A
GW Amp Branch, and a GW VST option.

The Direct X and GWVST options I have never played with, and so I don't know
what to do with those, but the GoldWave branch has all the utilities you'll
need, so simply right arrow to open up the branch, then arrow down the list
to the option you wish to use.

Once you get to the option you wish to use, you will either hear the name of
the option, in which case, you tab to the add button and press the spacebar,
or you'll hear the word "closed".  If it says "closed", then simply press
the right arrow to open up that branch, and select the desired pre-set.

To use an example.  If I wish to amplify the volume on several files at
once, I would add the files, then use the above keystrokes to get to the
effects list.

Once there, I would down arrow to the Dynamics effect, and right arrow to
open it up.

Once opened, I would then arrow down to the Blare option, which amplifies
the volume of each track quite dramatically.  This is usually the option I
use to increase the volume on my files and it works perfectly.  Once I've
arrowed down to the blare option, I then tab to the add button, , then to
the close button, unless I wish to add more effects, in which case, I just
shift+tab back to the list of effects and continue down the line,
remembering to add each effect in turn until I'm done,  Once I am done, I
tab to the close button and press the spacebar.

Once this is done, and assuming you're not converting the bitrate and
frequency of the files, I control+tab over to the convert tab to ensure that
the "Convert Files to This Format" option is unchecked, but if you are
changing this option, you make sure that the box is checked, and select the
proper frequency.

Again, this is how I do it, you may elect to do something else, but suffice
it to say, one instruction I gave a previous poster was to open up a single
file, and try to amplify the volume on one file.  Once you've got the idea
of what you need to do to accomplish this task, you can then transfer it to
the batch conversion utility, as everything you find in the effects and edit
menus of the regular GoldWave window, will be listed in the batch conversion
utility list.

Once all of these items are selected, simply tab to the begin button, and
press the spacebar to start the batch processing of the files.

This is a rather basic set of instructions, so it's by no means
comprehensive on the batch conversion utility, so if you have any other
questions, please feel free to ask.

Good luck.

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 3:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave

how can 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Kevin,

Sorry I'm responding so late on this, but life got in the way.  LOL.

Anyway, you don't actually have to have an open file in order to use the 
Batch conversion utility.


Simply open up the GoldWave application, then press alt+F to go to the file 
menu, then the letter B to open up the Batch Conversion utility.


Once the dialog box opens up, add the files you wish to create the effect on 
and then control+tab to the Process tab. where you'll land on an empty 
field.


Once there, tab to the add effect... button and press your spacebar.

In the resulting dialog box, you'll land on a tree view with several 
branches you can open up.


For example, mine currently contains a GoldWave branch, a Direct X option, A 
GW Amp Branch, and a GW VST option.


The Direct X and GWVST options I have never played with, and so I don't know 
what to do with those, but the GoldWave branch has all the utilities you'll 
need, so simply right arrow to open up the branch, then arrow down the list 
to the option you wish to use.


Once you get to the option you wish to use, you will either hear the name of 
the option, in which case, you tab to the add button and press the spacebar, 
or you'll hear the word "closed".  If it says "closed", then simply press 
the right arrow to open up that branch, and select the desired pre-set.


To use an example.  If I wish to amplify the volume on several files at 
once, I would add the files, then use the above keystrokes to get to the 
effects list.


Once there, I would down arrow to the Dynamics effect, and right arrow to 
open it up.


Once opened, I would then arrow down to the Blare option, which amplifies 
the volume of each track quite dramatically.  This is usually the option I 
use to increase the volume on my files and it works perfectly.  Once I've 
arrowed down to the blare option, I then tab to the add button, , then to 
the close button, unless I wish to add more effects, in which case, I just 
shift+tab back to the list of effects and continue down the line, 
remembering to add each effect in turn until I'm done,  Once I am done, I 
tab to the close button and press the spacebar.


Once this is done, and assuming you're not converting the bitrate and 
frequency of the files, I control+tab over to the convert tab to ensure that 
the "Convert Files to This Format" option is unchecked, but if you are 
changing this option, you make sure that the box is checked, and select the 
proper frequency.


Again, this is how I do it, you may elect to do something else, but suffice 
it to say, one instruction I gave a previous poster was to open up a single 
file, and try to amplify the volume on one file.  Once you've got the idea 
of what you need to do to accomplish this task, you can then transfer it to 
the batch conversion utility, as everything you find in the effects and edit 
menus of the regular GoldWave window, will be listed in the batch conversion 
utility list.


Once all of these items are selected, simply tab to the begin button, and 
press the spacebar to start the batch processing of the files.


This is a rather basic set of instructions, so it's by no means 
comprehensive on the batch conversion utility, so if you have any other 
questions, please feel free to ask.


Good luck.

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 3:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave

how can I change the sound of multiple tracks using goldwave!  right now I 
only know how to do it one track at a time.  I’m pretty sure it’s possible 
because on the menubar there is a batch processing button but when I press 
it nothing happens.Email is golden!!!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Very important, verifying your M S account in w-10

[Scorpio Forever]

It would seem that the sign-in screen is not accessible either, as I just 
came from there, and couldn't read a thing with it.


My OCR commands yielded nothing in terms of interactions, nor did the Jaws 
cursor.  Having said that though, I did have sighted assistance in the form 
of my wife, and it would seem that even though Jaws wasn't reading anything 
on the page, the keyboard was still entering information on the page.


The problem, of course, is that we don't know what field we're in and what 
information to place in those fields unless you have sighted assistance.


One thing I did not have to do was Verify my account.

It might be because I did not set up a Pin code, but either way, this was 
not a step I had to hurdle in order to get it to use my account.


Jim, did you set up a pin code?

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Very important, verifying your M S account in w-10

Hi Jaws Users group.
If you are using a Microsoft account to sign into your w-10 computer, you 
must verify your account!

You will need sited help or you need to call the M S Support line at:
Microsoft Free Computer Repair Number. 1 800 936 – 5900
How to check your system to see if you need to verify.
Windows key+I, for settings.
Right arrow to, Account, press enter.
Tab one time and listen, tab a second time, if you need to verify, this will 
say, verify link.
Press enter on this link, will bring up a empty container window that Jaws 
can not read.
I was able to use the touch cursor successfully on my desktop, and had 
Microsoft send me a text code to my cell phone.
Which I entered into my desktop correctly and verified my computer with my 
Microsoft account.

However, we did not verify our laptop yet.
So, this morning when it came on, my wife could not access her email.
The reason why, was that Microsoft turned our anti-virus off, and under 
security, there was that same verify link.
so, if you do not verify shortly after installing w-10, if you use a 
Microsoft account, this same thing will happen to you.

I am not able to verify our laptop.
After spending 1 and a half hours with Microsoft, they were not able to 
verify it either.
So, waiting on a phone call, I did let them know that this verify screen is 
not accessible at all.
So, why I am waiting, I am still trying to use the Jaws touch cursor to 
verify our laptop.
Final thoughts, if you have sited help, use them to verify your Microsoft 
account, if not one of these days your anti-virus, will be turned off by 
Microsoft to remind you to verify your account.
I personally, do not like this procedure, but Microsoft says, its for 
security purposes.

Those of you, who, do not have sited help, call the above support number.
If you are using a Microsoft account to sign-in, this verification is 
required, no way around it.

Good luck...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Scorpio Forever]

Jim, with all due respect, both my experience and Freedom Scientific state 
that a re-install of Jaws 16 is not necessary from Windows 8.1 to 10.


I meant no offence by my statement, I was simply stating a facts as released 
by Freedom Scientific and my own experience installing Windows 10 on 46 
computers to date, all of which were using Windows 8.1.


This is not a spitting contest, just one person passing information on to 
another.


I'm glad your experiences are vast, and you can offer as much experience as 
you can to the list, after all, that's what this list is here for, but I 
will not curtail my passing on of knowledge simply because you feel I am 
berating you for something I never berated you for.


Anyway, what matters is that the person got their installation of Windows 10 
done using both our experiences, so let's be thankful, and leave it at that.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Scorpio,
Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new
and fresh in w-10.
I speak from experience.
I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end.
This includes customizing them as well.
The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are
effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws.
I have assisted in many other upgrades.
Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading
software, to uninstall and reinstall them.
So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you
should follow Microsoft recommendation.
Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws...
How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10?
When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on
their own with no sited help.
I have a great respect for those who are making it alone.
Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone.
So, I research my answers when I give a step by step guide, as if each blind
person were doing the steps by themselves with no sited help.
This way hopefully, they will not have any problems.
So, again, its not a matter of being right about reinstalling Jaws, it’s a
matter of getting max performance out of Jaws 16 and 17 on your w-10
computer.
Have a nice day...
-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Jim,

Your information is incorrect.

Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest
version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10.

No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should
come up working after the installation.

You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to
w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a
smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Jim,

Your information is incorrect.

Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest 
version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10.


No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should 
come up working after the installation.


You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to
w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a
smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Dacia,

Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable.  You can 
choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image 
back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and 
apps.


There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do 
this below.


Hope this helps.

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Dacia Cole

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Yes,

Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I
plan to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get
answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on
to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose
things?  I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be.
(smiles)

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins  wrote:

Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 security center

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Kevin,

No, it did not work, though I could have sworn I posted that to the list, 
but thank you very much for your help.


Not sure if you saw my detailed account of how I managed to Install Windows 
10, but I basically had to shut down a number of background applications I 
had running in order to make sure that the download/installation could go 
through as it was supposed to.  I also shut down my anti-virus/malware 
altogether, as opposed to simply shutting down the active monitoring.


I also took the added precaution of disconnecting any peripherals I had 
connected to the computer, making sure that it wasn't a possible hardware 
conflict.


Having said that, I did manage to figure out that the SoundBlaster sound 
card I had initially thought was the problem wa snot after all.


I still managed to install the Windows 10 upgrade despite it still being 
installed on my system, so I've deduced it was a software issue all along.


If you have any questions, or if you need me to re-post my message that 
detailed what I did, let me know, and I'll send it to you off list so as not 
to place a second copy on the Jaws-users server.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 security center

   scorpio I'm kind of interested, that fix I gave you for your win 7
updates did your updates start working again?

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Jim,

Your information is incorrect.

Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest
version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10.

No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should
come up working after the installation.

You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to
w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a
smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Dacia,

No, you do not, because Freedom Scientific has stated that if you are 
upgrading from a Windows 8.1 computer to a Windows 10, as long as you have 
the latest version of Jaws 16, then you should be good to go, and don't need 
to re-install a thing.


Now, if you wish to download the Windows 10 media creation kit, so you can 
get your copy of Windows faster, then that's your prerogative, but there are 
no utilities you'll have to download for Jaws.


Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dacia Cole

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Okay,

Thank you so much.  So do I still need to download the utility tool
and such even though I don't need to download JAWS as I'm running the
latest version of JAWS 16?

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Scorpio Forever <scorpio...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Dacia,

Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable.  You can
choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image
back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and
apps.

There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do
this below.

Hope this helps.

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc

Scorpio



-Original Message-
From: Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Yes,

Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I
plan to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get
answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on
to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose
things?  I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be.
(smiles)

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote:

Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails th

Re: [JAWS-Users] Installing Windows 10 Tips

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Jim,

I do not have Cortana on my computer.  I'm thinking this is because I live 
in Canada, and Cortana isn't available here, so, what else to you suggest?


I can't seem to find that other setting of shutting off Bing search, because 
that is readily available, even though I wish I could shut that off.


As for the background apps. they don't seem to slow my computer down at all.

They're very low processor intensive, and hardly worth shutting off.

Either way, thanks for the suggestion.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 10:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Installing Windows 10 Tips

As far as your start menu.
Make sure you go to  the setting, called:
cortana and search setting, turn off cortana, turn off show search results
from bing.
This can be frustrating at first when you are setting up your w-10 computer.
Now, when pressing the windows key or pressing enter on the start button.
type what you are looking for, down arrow through the results.
It will now be just like windows 7.
You can play with cortana and bing results later.
Also, set your default programs.
Turn off most of the background apps which will slow down your computer.
Go to choose how I receive updates on this computer, under windows updates.
turn off, by unchecking receive and send updates to other computers, this
will slow down your computer as well.
If you need step by step instructions on customizing your w-10 computer.
See my recording, customizing w-10 with Jaws, on my one drive link below.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=109032A085BB3CE2!130=!AOrgD5LmQr72KPA=folder%2ctxt

I hope this helps...

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Installing Windows 10 Tips

Hi Folks,

I have successfully installed Windows 10 on my 7 year old desktop computer
running Windows 7 and Jaws 16.  While there are still bugs with this newest
version of Windows, especially for us Jaws users, such as the inability to
access the Start Menu search results, or the inability to access individual
updates in order to deselect them from installation, the overall speed of my
decrepit desktop has improved quite noticeably.

The lag is much less then it was on Windows 7, and no, I have no idea
whether Windows 8, or 8.1 would have helped that or not, but I can happily
say that Windows 10 is much faster on my desktop computer, then Windows 7
was.

In terms of hardware issues, I did not have any problems, even though I was
assured of this fact from the Windows 10 upgrade utility, so that wasn’t as
much a concern for me, especially when I remembered that I had a really old
sound card from Creative Labs installed on there that was giving my old
Windows 7 system a problem, and I even thought that that same sound card
might have been the culprit in my inability to install Windows 10.  As it
is, I need not have worried, as Windows 10 by-passed that issue with no
qualms whatsoever.

There are some tips I can offer that will help the installation, and if you’re
experiencing the issue I was having, with the upgrade stalling and/or
discontinuing in the middle, you may want to pay attention.

First, disable any malware or anti-virus that has real-time protection on
your computer, and by disable, I don’t mean turn it off temporarily, I mean
disable it from start up in the MS Config utility.  This can be accomplished
by pressing the Windows key+R to bring up the run dialog box, then typing
msconfig in the edit box, and pressing enter.

In the resulting dialog box, control+tab to the services tab, and uncheck
the boxes that apply to your anti-virus or malware blocker applications.
Once done, control+tab over to the start-up tab, and again, uncheck any
boxes having to do with those applications, then tab to the apply button,
then shift+tab over to the ok button.

You may be prompted to re-start your computer, and if you are, go ahead and
do so, but if you’re not, simply re-start your computer.

Secondly, you may want to disable anything having to do with online
services, such as Dropbox, iCloud services, Send Space Wizard, and
non-essential services, such as Printer monitoring services and One Drive.
While I can’t guarantee that these applications will give you problems, and
I don’t have any confirmation as to whether these were the causes of my
predicament, during the Windows 10 installation, you won’t need these
services anyway, so it doesn’t hurt to disable them.

Now, you don’t have to disable them using the MS Config utility, simply
doing so from the task manager with control+shift+escape, just before you
begin the installation process is enough.  Now, the reason I told you to
disable the anti-virus and anti-Malware applications through the MS Config
utility, and not the online services is because your computer, or, at least,
the Windows 10 installation wizard claims

[JAWS-Users] Installing Windows 10 Tips

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

I have successfully installed Windows 10 on my 7 year old desktop computer 
running Windows 7 and Jaws 16.  While there are still bugs with this newest 
version of Windows, especially for us Jaws users, such as the inability to 
access the Start Menu search results, or the inability to access individual 
updates in order to deselect them from installation, the overall speed of my 
decrepit desktop has improved quite noticeably.

The lag is much less then it was on Windows 7, and no, I have no idea whether 
Windows 8, or 8.1 would have helped that or not, but I can happily say that 
Windows 10 is much faster on my desktop computer, then Windows 7 was.

In terms of hardware issues, I did not have any problems, even though I was 
assured of this fact from the Windows 10 upgrade utility, so that wasn’t as 
much a concern for me, especially when I remembered that I had a really old 
sound card from Creative Labs installed on there that was giving my old Windows 
7 system a problem, and I even thought that that same sound card might have 
been the culprit in my inability to install Windows 10.  As it is, I need not 
have worried, as Windows 10 by-passed that issue with no qualms whatsoever.

There are some tips I can offer that will help the installation, and if you’re 
experiencing the issue I was having, with the upgrade stalling and/or 
discontinuing in the middle, you may want to pay attention.

First, disable any malware or anti-virus that has real-time protection on your 
computer, and by disable, I don’t mean turn it off temporarily, I mean disable 
it from start up in the MS Config utility.  This can be accomplished by 
pressing the Windows key+R to bring up the run dialog box, then typing msconfig 
in the edit box, and pressing enter.

In the resulting dialog box, control+tab to the services tab, and uncheck the 
boxes that apply to your anti-virus or malware blocker applications.  Once 
done, control+tab over to the start-up tab, and again, uncheck any boxes having 
to do with those applications, then tab to the apply button, then shift+tab 
over to the ok button.

You may be prompted to re-start your computer, and if you are, go ahead and do 
so, but if you’re not, simply re-start your computer.

Secondly, you may want to disable anything having to do with online services, 
such as Dropbox, iCloud services, Send Space Wizard, and non-essential 
services, such as Printer monitoring services and One Drive.  While I can’t 
guarantee that these applications will give you problems, and I don’t have any 
confirmation as to whether these were the causes of my predicament, during the 
Windows 10 installation, you won’t need these services anyway, so it doesn’t 
hurt to disable them.

Now, you don’t have to disable them using the MS Config utility, simply doing 
so from the task manager with control+shift+escape, just before you begin the 
installation process is enough.  Now, the reason I told you to disable the 
anti-virus and anti-Malware applications through the MS Config utility, and not 
the online services is because your computer, or, at least, the Windows 10 
installation wizard claims that your computer will re-start many times, and so 
if you simply use the application’s settings, the disabling will only take 
effect until you re-start your computer, and I would suggest you keep the 
services disabled until the installation has been completed.

As I said, I have no guarantee that these tips are absolutely necessary, as 
you’ve seen by other’s experiences, not everyone has suffered what I have 
suffered, and they’ve actually been successful in installing their Windows 7 to 
10 upgrade.  I am simply outlining what I did to ensure that my upgrade process 
when flawlessly and as smoothly as possible.

Also, those of you using Jaws should know that I had sighted assistance, and so 
when the Windows log on and set up screen popped up, I was advised of this 
event.  If you don’t have sighted assistance, then you will have to guess as to 
when this happens.

I have no actual technical guidelines as to when this event takes place, but I 
can extrapolate that when you no longer hear any noises from your hard drive, 
assuming you aren’t running a solid state drive, this should be the ideal time 
to toggle Narrator on with a press of the Windows key+enter.  You’ll enjoy the 
richer sounding voice that pops up.  

That keystroke is a toggle, so when you want to shut narrator down again, you 
simply have to press Windows key+enter again, or caps lock+escape to shut down 
Narrator.

Again, some people may or may not have Jaws popping up when Windows logs on to 
the desktop, I can’t categorically state this will happen, but surprisingly, 
mine did, but I took the safe precaution, as Freedom Scientific suggested, of 
running the Windows 10 upgrade utility available on their website, then 
re-installing the latest build of Jaws 16.  In my case, I uninstalled Jaws, 
while leaving shared component, and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

[Scorpio Forever]

I'm afraid that isn't the only way to fix the issue.

You can always download the Windows 10 setup file, and do a clean install of 
the OS, which involves re-formatting your hard drive to that nothing is on 
the drive when you finally install Windows 10.


I am also having this issue, so it may be that the tech guy you spoke to is 
trying to pawn Windows 8.1 off on you because he knows he can't make any 
money if you upgrade to Windows 10.


If you have sighted help, then do it this way, which is what I'm gearing up 
to do, as I'm backing up all my files now.  If you do not have sighted help, 
download the Windows unattended setup from somewhere, and use that.


I'm sorry, I don't have a link for you since I do have sighted help to 
assist me in the install, but I'm sure you can Google Windows unattended 
Installation and you'll be good to go.


What ever you do, don't give into your tech guy telling you have to upgrade 
to Windows 8.1, that's just ridiculous on it's face.


Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: petras

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10.  There are
many pc's out there that are much faster than yours.

- Original Message -
From: "Fred Adams" 

[JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

Just changing the subject line to reflect the new route this thread has 
taken.


I have just found out that one cannot simply do a re-format of the hard 
drive in order to install Windows 10, or to do a clean installation of 
Windows 10 and that Windows 10 must be installed as an upgrade.  This is 
saddening, but alas, one can't really look a gift horse in the mouth.


Some people have messaged me off-list and given me a few tips, such as 
uninstalling programs that I feel may interfere with the installation, and 
I'm still going to uninstall that really old sound card to see if that's the 
problem too, even though the Windows 10 upgrade assessment states that the 
sound card is not going to be a problem.


In any case, if you want to read what I read about upgrading to Windows 10, 
please see the following link:


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows-10/why-activate-windows-10

I'll let you all know what happens.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

unattended windows 7 installation
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-unattended-windows-7-installation-setup/



-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 3:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I do not have any interest inW10 at present but maybe later on this year I
might change my mind.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade.  if you got the get windows
10 notification just click it and reserve a copy.  then just use the win 10
media creation tool to upgrade your computer.

-Original Message-
From: Fred Adams
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present.  I am having
problems with W7 installing windows updates.  A Microsoft technician went
through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to
get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is
to upgrade to W8.1 or W10.  The computer is to old for W10 but I think it
could handle W8.1.  I would like to know if there is a big learning curve
between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is
my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and
cheapest way out.  This is an old computer but still works pretty well.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.

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US ARMY AIRBORNE RET



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Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

[Scorpio Forever]

HI Kevin,

I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation 
stalled at around 11 and 18%.  I even tried to run the set up directly from 
the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same 
result.  I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke 
about in my last message.


I'm not quite sure why this is the case.  I'm thinking that maybe there may 
be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that 
the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out.


Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is 
actually a working theory I've come up with.


I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my 
computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot 
installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again.


Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old 
SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch 
for an update tomorrow at some point.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade.  if you got the get windows
10 notification just click it and reserve a copy.  then just use the win 10
media creation tool to upgrade your computer.

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present.  I am having
problems with W7 installing windows updates.  A Microsoft technician went
through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to
get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is
to upgrade to W8.1 or W10.  The computer is to old for W10 but I think it
could handle W8.1.  I would like to know if there is a big learning curve
between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is
my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and
cheapest way out.  This is an old computer but still works pretty well.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET



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Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

[Scorpio Forever]

I'll definitely give this a try.  It looks promising.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

if you are having troubles updating on windows 7, I had that problem too
I fixed it by
in the windows search box type
services
the updates are tied into the security center I found a blog about how to
fix it
it does not explain how to do it with the keyboard but I'm sure you can do
it.  sorry I don't remember how I did it.

Windows 7 and Windows Vista
Click Start.
In the Start search box, type services.
In the Programs list, click Services.

2. In the details pane, right-click (or tap and hold) Security Center, and
then tap or click Properties.

3. In the Startup type list, tap or click Automatic (Delayed Start).

4. The screen shot for Security Center Properties dialog box
In the Service Status area, tap or click Start.

Notes

If the service starts successfully, tap or click Apply, tap or click OK, and
then close the Services window.
If you receive an error message that resembles the following message when
you click Start, go to step 6 to reconfigure the log on user for the
service:
"Windows could not start the Security Center service on Local Computer.
Error 1079: The account specified for this service differs from the account
specified for other services running in the same process."

5. In the Security Center Properties dialog box, tap or click the Log On
tab, and then tap or click Browse.

6. In the Enter the object name to select box, type your computer name.

7. Tap or click Check Names, and then tap or click OK when the name is
authenticated.
8. In the Password box, type the administrator password.
9. In the Confirm password box, retype the administrator password.
10. Tap or click Apply, and then tap or click OK.
11. Close the Services window."

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

HI Kevin,

I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation
stalled at around 11 and 18%.  I even tried to run the set up directly from
the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same
result.  I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke
about in my last message.

I'm not quite sure why this is the case.  I'm thinking that maybe there may
be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that
the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out.

Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is
actually a working theory I've come up with.

I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my
computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot
installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again.

Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old
SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch
for an update tomorrow at some point.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade.  if you got the get windows
10 notification just click it and reserve a copy.  then just use the win 10
media creation tool to upgrade your computer.

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present.  I am having
problems with W7 installing windows updates.  A Microsoft technician went
through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to
get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is
to upgrade to W8.1 or W10.  The computer is to old for W10 but I think it
could handle W8.1.  I would like to know if there is a big learning curve
between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is
my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and
cheapest way out.  This is an old computer but still works pretty well.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET



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Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Kevin,

What exactly did I say wrong that you felt you needed to apologize?

I was just outlining that the method you were outlining wasn't any more 
successful then the original method suggested.


I'm sorry if you took offence to it.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

well I'm sorry.  just trying to help by doing some searching for you guys!

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

HI Kevin,

I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation
stalled at around 11 and 18%.  I even tried to run the set up directly from
the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same
result.  I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke
about in my last message.

I'm not quite sure why this is the case.  I'm thinking that maybe there may
be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that
the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out.

Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is
actually a working theory I've come up with.

I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my
computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot
installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again.

Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old
SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch
for an update tomorrow at some point.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade.  if you got the get windows
10 notification just click it and reserve a copy.  then just use the win 10
media creation tool to upgrade your computer.

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present.  I am having
problems with W7 installing windows updates.  A Microsoft technician went
through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to
get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is
to upgrade to W8.1 or W10.  The computer is to old for W10 but I think it
could handle W8.1.  I would like to know if there is a big learning curve
between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is
my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and
cheapest way out.  This is an old computer but still works pretty well.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET



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Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Fred,

I think you should know that if your computer can run Windows 8.1, then it 
should have no problem running Windows 10, as it's the most slimmed down 
version of Windows I've ever seen thus far from them, especially when you 
take into account all the features it currently possesses.


The computer I'm upgrading is a Windows 7, 32 bit computer, and it is about 
7 years old, and I should know, since I built the monster myself.  LOL.


In any case, Windows 10 will give you less of a learning curve from 7 to 10, 
not to mention handling your resources much more effectively.


What ever you decide to do, good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I do not have any interest inW10 at present but maybe later on this year I
might change my mind.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade.  if you got the get windows
10 notification just click it and reserve a copy.  then just use the win 10
media creation tool to upgrade your computer.

-Original Message-
From: Fred Adams
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present.  I am having
problems with W7 installing windows updates.  A Microsoft technician went
through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to
get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is
to upgrade to W8.1 or W10.  The computer is to old for W10 but I think it
could handle W8.1.  I would like to know if there is a big learning curve
between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is
my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and
cheapest way out.  This is an old computer but still works pretty well.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET



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Re: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

[Scorpio Forever]

Kevin,

As I said, the authorization CD only contains your authorization number to 
run Jaws, it does not contain an activation number for your computer that 
activates it on your computer, that is why I told you to go to the 
fsactivate.com website and download an activation key for your particular 
version of Jaws.


If you're not sure what I'm talking about, go to the following link:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/962

This has detailed instructions for activating your version of Jaws on your 
computer.


Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 9:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

I was wrong it did not activate my jaws, the copy of the authjaws cd doesn't
work, I just double click on authcode and all it does is copy the
authorization number into the computer not jaws itself.
so it still asks for a license code

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 1:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

Hi Kevin,

Go to fsactivate.com and download an activation key.

You download it to a USB drive of some kind, then use that to activate the
Jaws on the computer with no internet access.

Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

does not work, after jaws announces to enter authorization code jaws asks
for a license code, I type the serial number and I get an error
my laptop doesn't have a cd drive I don't need one.


-Original Message- 
From: Blackwell, Clifford

Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 8:21 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

Instead of selecting the activate via the internet chose the activate
manually button.  You can enter your codes there.  It works best if you have
your original authorization disk.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 9:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

I have a laptop without an internet connection and I’m running jaws in 40
minute mode it’s quite frustrating using jaws in demo mode cause I type slow
and when I’m doing something jaws halts and I need to restart to use jaws
again.
is there a way to activate jaws, I have  a serial and activation code.
Email is golden!!!
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[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Kevin,

Go to fsactivate.com and download an activation key.

You download it to a USB drive of some kind, then use that to activate the
Jaws on the computer with no internet access.

Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

does not work, after jaws announces to enter authorization code jaws asks
for a license code, I type the serial number and I get an error
my laptop doesn't have a cd drive I don't need one.


-Original Message- 
From: Blackwell, Clifford

Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 8:21 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

Instead of selecting the activate via the internet chose the activate
manually button.  You can enter your codes there.  It works best if you have
your original authorization disk.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 9:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] activate jaws

I have a laptop without an internet connection and I’m running jaws in 40
minute mode it’s quite frustrating using jaws in demo mode cause I type slow
and when I’m doing something jaws halts and I need to restart to use jaws
again.
is there a way to activate jaws, I have  a serial and activation code.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

[Scorpio Forever]

HI Jim,

I'm afraid this isn't correct.

If you press alt+enter on the This PC icon, this will bring up the system 
properties, in which case, you have to tab  to system tools, press enter, 
then tab to disk clean up, where you can choose which drive you wish to run 
the disk clean up wizard on.


An easier way of accomplishing this task is to open up This PC, then arrow 
to the drive you wish to run a disk clean up on, and press alt+enter.  This 
will bring up the drive's properties, then tabbing to the disk clean up 
button, you can press the spacebar, and the wizard will automatically scan 
your drive for unnecessary files to be deleted.


I can't remember if it will delete cookies and the like, as I think you'll 
have to go into Internet Options for that, but at least you'll be able to 
delete temporary internet files and Windows temp files and such like.


I should also point out that when you have the drive's properties opened, a 
press of control+tab will take you to the tools page of the drive where you 
can run a scan disk, a defrag and a back-up, depending on your preference.


Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Rawls

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

Go to this PC. Then, select your C drive, and hit, alt enter, and tab twice.
You should hear disk clean up. Then, hit enter, and it will take a few
minutes, and then, present you, with choices to clean up or not. Check the
ones you want to be cleaned, and tab over to ok. Jim

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Brett
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

How do I perform a disk clean up in windows 8.1?



Mark

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-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

Hi Carolyn,

I do believe that half of your statement is true, though I'm not sure if you
should quote me on that.

The Defragmentation service is true, as Windows 10 keeps your hard drive
defragged constantly so as to maximize the storage space and it's
information retrieval.

In terms of the Disk clean up, I don't believe this has been automated in
Windows 10, but as of Windows 8.1, disk clean up is still a manual task,
though, I suppose that you can automate it by setting it as a scheduled task
once a week, or so, but again, you can always set Internet Explorer to empty
temporary internet files automatically once you finish browsing.  That has
always been in the Internet Explorer settings, but in terms of emptying out
your recycle bin, or cleaning up dump files and/or log files, those you must
do manually, since the computer can never know which ones you want to delete
and which ones you don't.

Like I said above though, I may be incorrect in this statement, to please
take it with a grain of salt, as I am not officially using Windows 10 yet,
as it has not been reported ready for my computer.

Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 6:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

My old XP just went to Gomer the Guru.

I understand that in 10 we do not have to do defrag or disk clean up? Is
that correct?I do not have a solid state hard drive, just a great big one, 1
tb.

Best from,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio Forever
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

Hi Dave,

There actually used to be a cheat sheet located in the advanced tab of the
system properties in Windows XP, but alas, they've done away with it, and I
don't know where to obtain it anymore.

This command was part of the list of commands that included the IP release
and renew commands for your internet, the check disk and disk defrag and
other useful utilities that were, and still are, as you can see, useful back
in the day.

In any case, perhaps someone with an XP computer can pull up the system
properties with Windows key+pause, then control Tab to the advanced tab, or,
at least, that's what I think it was called, and copy those commands down
for us.

Unfortunately, all of my computers are Windows 7 and up.  LOL.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 11:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

Very Cool! Had no idea this dialog existed, much less how to find it. Is
there a cheat sheet somewhere giving these specific control

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Dave,

There actually used to be a cheat sheet located in the advanced tab of the 
system properties in Windows XP, but alas, they've done away with it, and I 
don't know where to obtain it anymore.


This command was part of the list of commands that included the IP release 
and renew commands for your internet, the check disk and disk defrag and 
other useful utilities that were, and still are, as you can see, useful back 
in the day.


In any case, perhaps someone with an XP computer can pull up the system 
properties with Windows key+pause, then control Tab to the advanced tab, or, 
at least, that's what I think it was called, and copy those commands down 
for us.


Unfortunately, all of my computers are Windows 7 and up.  LOL.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 11:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

Very Cool! Had no idea this dialog existed, much less how to find it. Is
there a cheat sheet somewhere giving these specific control commands and
what they access?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Scorpio Forever scorpio...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 08:03 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: desktop


Hi, You can press Windows key+R to get the run dialog box, then, in the run
edit field, type in control userpasswords2, without the quotes, and press
enter.

In the resulting dialog box, uncheck the box that says, users must type a
password to use this computer, and make sure it's unchecked.

Tab to the ok button, and press enter or the spacebar.

You'll receive a dialog box prompting you to select the default user and to
enter the password associated with that user.

Once you select and type in the default username and password, tab to the ok
button, and press the spacebar.

At this point, you can close the userpasswords2 dialog box, if it's still
open, or  unless you want to make more advanced modifications in one of the
other tabs, and from that point onwards, it should boot directly into the
desktop.

Keep in mind that if you have User Control turned on, it will prompt you to
press the yes button if you want to allow the action.

Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: desktop

Kimsan,

Good idea, but that would still present the logon screen -- It would just
need the Enter keypress to go past it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 07:36 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] desktop


In 8.1 it use to be in the navigation pain in the start menu properties
which after just looking now, it's not there; however, what if you simply
remove the password from the log on screen, unless you have others using
your machine...


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] desktop

anyone that is using windows 10 know how I can boot directly to my desktop?
right now I am booting to the logon screen where I type in my password to go
to my desktop!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: desktop

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Kevin,

This is indicative of a slow computer, but have no fear, all is well.

If you have set Jaws to start at the log on screen, it will announce the log 
on screen, and eventually shut down to load Windows, at which point, the 
actual application starts up on the normal desktop.


Having start Jaws at the log on screen is good because your computer will 
sometimes have to complete updating, and you won't know it unless Jaws is 
set to start at the log on screen, so better to leave it like this.


Having said that, if this is a new computer, you may want to check out what 
you have starting up on boot up, as it sounds like you've got quite a bit, 
possibly software checking for updates and the like, DropBox folder sync-ing 
and stuff like that.


In any case, yes, this is completely normal, as Jaws will start up twice, 
once at the log on screen, then upon Windows booting up to the desktop.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Carolyn,

I do believe that half of your statement is true, though I'm not sure if you 
should quote me on that.


The Defragmentation service is true, as Windows 10 keeps your hard drive 
defragged constantly so as to maximize the storage space and it's 
information retrieval.


In terms of the Disk clean up, I don't believe this has been automated in 
Windows 10, but as of Windows 8.1, disk clean up is still a manual task, 
though, I suppose that you can automate it by setting it as a scheduled task 
once a week, or so, but again, you can always set Internet Explorer to empty 
temporary internet files automatically once you finish browsing.  That has 
always been in the Internet Explorer settings, but in terms of emptying out 
your recycle bin, or cleaning up dump files and/or log files, those you must 
do manually, since the computer can never know which ones you want to delete 
and which ones you don't.


Like I said above though, I may be incorrect in this statement, to please 
take it with a grain of salt, as I am not officially using Windows 10 yet, 
as it has not been reported ready for my computer.


Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 6:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

My old XP just went to Gomer the Guru.

I understand that in 10 we do not have to do defrag or disk clean up? Is
that correct?I do not have a solid state hard drive, just a great big one, 1
tb.

Best from,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio Forever
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

Hi Dave,

There actually used to be a cheat sheet located in the advanced tab of the
system properties in Windows XP, but alas, they've done away with it, and I
don't know where to obtain it anymore.

This command was part of the list of commands that included the IP release
and renew commands for your internet, the check disk and disk defrag and
other useful utilities that were, and still are, as you can see, useful back
in the day.

In any case, perhaps someone with an XP computer can pull up the system
properties with Windows key+pause, then control Tab to the advanced tab, or,
at least, that's what I think it was called, and copy those commands down
for us.

Unfortunately, all of my computers are Windows 7 and up.  LOL.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 11:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: desktop

Very Cool! Had no idea this dialog existed, much less how to find it. Is
there a cheat sheet somewhere giving these specific control commands and
what they access?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Scorpio Forever scorpio...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 08:03 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: desktop


Hi, You can press Windows key+R to get the run dialog box, then, in the run
edit field, type in control userpasswords2, without the quotes, and press
enter.

In the resulting dialog box, uncheck the box that says, users must type a
password to use this computer, and make sure it's unchecked.

Tab to the ok button, and press enter or the spacebar.

You'll receive a dialog box prompting you to select the default user and to
enter the password associated with that user.

Once you select and type in the default username and password, tab to the ok
button, and press the spacebar.

At this point, you can close the userpasswords2 dialog box, if it's still
open, or  unless you want to make more advanced modifications in one of the
other tabs, and from that point onwards, it should boot directly into the
desktop.

Keep in mind that if you have User Control turned on, it will prompt you to
press the yes button if you want to allow the action.

Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: desktop

Kimsan,

Good idea, but that would still present the logon screen -- It would just
need the Enter keypress to go past it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 07:36 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] desktop


In 8.1 it use to be in the navigation pain in the start menu properties
which after just looking now, it's not there; however, what if you simply
remove the password from the log on screen, unless you have others using
your machine...


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: desktop

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi, You can press Windows key+R to get the run dialog box, then, in the run 
edit field, type in control userpasswords2, without the quotes, and press 
enter.


In the resulting dialog box, uncheck the box that says, users must type a 
password to use this computer, and make sure it's unchecked.


Tab to the ok button, and press enter or the spacebar.

You'll receive a dialog box prompting you to select the default user and to 
enter the password associated with that user.


Once you select and type in the default username and password, tab to the ok 
button, and press the spacebar.


At this point, you can close the userpasswords2 dialog box, if it's still 
open, or  unless you want to make more advanced modifications in one of the 
other tabs, and from that point onwards, it should boot directly into the 
desktop.


Keep in mind that if you have User Control turned on, it will prompt you to 
press the yes button if you want to allow the action.


Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: desktop

Kimsan,

Good idea, but that would still present the logon screen -- It would just
need the Enter keypress to go past it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 07:36 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] desktop


In 8.1 it use to be in the navigation pain in the start menu properties
which after just looking now, it's not there; however, what if you simply
remove the password from the log on screen, unless you have others using
your machine...


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] desktop

anyone that is using windows 10 know how I can boot directly to my desktop?
right now I am booting to the logon screen where I type in my password to go
to my desktop!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessing The Windows 10 Search Results

[Scorpio Forever]

Thank you for these instructions, it's much appreciated.

I am still wondering if there is, in fact, a search result in the Windows 10 
Start Menu search.  One thing I forgot to mention is that when I typed in 
the term, Internet Explorer in the search field and pressed Enter, the 
program would launch like normal, but if I tried to right click on it, it 
did nothing.


Can anyone verify if this is a bug, or am I doing this wrong?

Thanks.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessing The Windows 10 Search Results

1. Go to this pc or computer on your desktop, press enter.
2. Highlight your c: drive, and press enter.
3. Highlight program files X86, press enter.
4. highlight internet explorer, press the application key.
5. Arrow down to pin to taskbar, or send to sub menu, go to put short cut on
desktop.
I hope this helps...
-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessing The Windows 10 Search Results

Hi Folks,

I was under the impression that accessing the Windows 10 search results
would be as easy as using the up or down arrows to get to the search
results, but it would seem that this is not the case, unless I have a bug
where the applications menu does not activate in the Windows 10 Search
Results list.

I Googled Creating an Internet Explorer icon on the desktop or task bar, and
found the instructions that included entering the term, “Internet Explorer”
in the start menu search field, then, in the results, right click on the
Internet Explorer applications, and click on Pin to Task bar.

When I did this, the applications menu did not come up.

Does anyone know how I can manage this?

I’ve tried this on two different laptops, an Acer Inspiron and an HP Envy,
both running Windows 10 home edition, and the latest Jaws 16, but again, I
type the search string in the start search field, then arrow down to get to
the search results, and upon getting to Internet Explorer, when I press
shift+F10, or the applications key, I fail to obtain the context menu, or
any menu for that matter, and entering on the Pin To Task Bar option.

Does anyone have any tips that can help me accomplish this task, or maybe an
alternate way of accomplishing the same task using other methods that don’t
involve going through any of the steps involved in the Google search?

Any help would be appreciated.

Scorpio
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[JAWS-Users] Accessing The Windows 10 Search Results

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

I was under the impression that accessing the Windows 10 search results would 
be as easy as using the up or down arrows to get to the search results, but it 
would seem that this is not the case, unless I have a bug where the 
applications menu does not activate in the Windows 10 Search Results list.

I Googled Creating an Internet Explorer icon on the desktop or task bar, and 
found the instructions that included entering the term, “Internet Explorer” in 
the start menu search field, then, in the results, right click on the Internet 
Explorer applications, and click on Pin to Task bar.

When I did this, the applications menu did not come up.

Does anyone know how I can manage this?

I’ve tried this on two different laptops, an Acer Inspiron and an HP Envy, both 
running Windows 10 home edition, and the latest Jaws 16, but again, I type the 
search string in the start search field, then arrow down to get to the search 
results, and upon getting to Internet Explorer, when I press shift+F10, or the 
applications key, I fail to obtain the context menu, or any menu for that 
matter, and entering on the Pin To Task Bar option.

Does anyone have any tips that can help me accomplish this task, or maybe an 
alternate way of accomplishing the same task using other methods that don’t 
involve going through any of the steps involved in the Google search?

Any help would be appreciated.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS compatible scanning software

[Scorpio Forever]

I have used many, but the best and most accessible I've used have been Adobe 
Acrobat Pro, and ABBYY Fine Reader, both of which will integrate with Word 
and other Microsoft Products.


Hope this helps.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Gold Wave

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Umberto,

Could you please also send them to David, the owner of this list so he can 
post them to the Jaws-users.com website?



That way, all can enjoy them?

Thanks.,

Scorpio

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

[Scorpio Forever]

I'm not quite understanding why you simply don't go to microsoft's website 
and get it yourself.


You say you're willing to pay for it, I've given you the Microsoft price, as 
well as the price at Best Buy, and if you get to the Microsoft website 
within the next year, there's a good chance you won't have to pay the one 
hundred and nineteen dollars they would ask you to pay.


Given that the icon is not showing up in your system tray, I think this 
would be the better bet, so go to the below link, and get Windows 10 
directly from Microsoft:


http://www.microsoft.com

Good luck.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Petras,

I think I saw that you live in California, and if that's the case, I believe 
you can get a full version of Windows 10 for $119 USD (United States 
Dollars), keep in mind that this price does not include taxes or shipping 
and delivery, if charged.


In any case, this price is directly from Microsoft if you want to purchase 
it, and I believe Best Buy was selling it at more or less the same price, 
so, unless you're looking for Windows 10 Professional, you won't have to pay 
$199.


Good luck.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] messed up a computer with malware

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Lenny,

As the other person suggested, do a system restore to a time before you did 
the malware scan, but I would suggest you go through the services and 
start-up panels of the MS configuration file to see if anything 
unrecognizable is starting up.  In other words, look for the malware 
manually before you actually do a malware scan, that way you have more 
control over what it finds and what it doesn't.


After you've disabled that things that are causing her system to start up 
slowly, go into the installed programs, which, if using Windows Vista, 7 or 
8, will be called Programs and Features, and uninstall all unrecognizable 
programs that have been installed that sound like viruses and/or iffy 
programs.


You might also want to look at the add-ones currently installed in her 
browser, whether it be Firefox, Internet Explorer, or Chrome.


Either way, this may very well be some really weird toolbars or other stuff 
that has gotten installed without her knowledge, or worse, with her 
knowledge, but still she chose to install them because she thought they 
wouldn't do any harm.


I love it when girlfriends, wives and daughters install stuff they don't 
think will do any harm.  It's what keeps me in business.  LOL.


Anyway, good luck with your project dujour.  Smiles.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] This Did Not Happen With the Previous JFW 16.0 build

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Dave,

I am experiencing the same issue with Windows Live Mail, and the latest 
build of Jaws 16, just so you don't think you're the only one.  LOL.


Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Google Search

[Scorpio Forever]

A Google search functions just fine for me.

I type in the search criteria after I've logged into my Google account, 
press enter, then press the letter H to go directly to the headings of the 
search results.


Each hit is a heading, so you can simply press H all the way down the page, 
at which point, if one wants more information on a particular hit, one 
simply arrows down from that particular heading.


Just so I don't lose my place in the hit list, I have my search results to 
display on a separate tab or page when I enter on one of the hits I want to 
view, that way, once I've seen if that hit yielded the desired results, I 
can either choose to save it for off-line viewing, add it to my favourites, 
or do what ever I need with it.


I am assured however, that whether I have gleaned the information I needed 
from the viewed page, that I'll be returned to my place in the hit list to 
keep looking for results.  This setting comes in handy as I have my results 
set to display 100 hit per page.


Either way, I've never had any problems that I can think of when doing a 
Google search on the regular site of http://www.google.com/


I even have my homepage set to it, which is kind of redundant, I know, as my 
default search engine is set as Google, and I can actually search from the 
address bar, but old habits die hard.  LOL.


Either way, I am also using Windows 7 home edition, with Jaws 16, and 
Internet Explorer 11.


Perhaps that could be your problem?

Not updating to the newest version of Internet Explorer?

Just a thought.  Smiles.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows pop up warning message XP

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Ann,

Are you plugging any sort of hardware into the computer that you haven't 
plugged in before.


If yes, and you know the drivers are good, simply proceed with the driver 
installation.  If you don't trust the device, then simply unplug the device 
or hardware, download the proper signed drivers from the manufacturer's 
website, and install them from that point forward.


On the other hand, if you're not plugging anything new hardware into the 
computer, and you're still getting that message, try re-starting your 
computer, and see if that helps.


Alternatively, you may have to get some sighted assistance to open up the 
device manager, and ask them to look for any devices which have an 
exclamation mark in front of them.


This will be the device giving you the problem.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on Malwarebytes

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Holger,

How were you able to actually use it.

When I went to use it, it was completely inaccessible, and even the OCR 
function of Jaws couldn't pick up any text in the window.


Can you give us some tips?

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] New Printer

[Scorpio Forever]

I am currently using a Brother 685CW all in one inkjet printer.

It's a great printer, with a very large display that can be tilted to 
accommodate the user, and with the large screen, it's great for persons with 
low vision.


The one thing I like about this printer is that the software you install on 
your computer, has a remote setup on it, which, once a setting is adjusted, 
makes the process completely accessible, though it does need some work on 
the cartridge screen.


In any case, this model comes with a digital voicemail feature, and speaker 
phone, a dial pad, and can function as a stand alone model, so you don't 
have to rely on the PC to do any faxing.


It's also got three different methods of access.  It will connect to your 
computer via USB cable, in which case, if you want to be able to print with 
your other devices or computers/laptops/tablets, you will have to share the 
printer, which also means that your computer will have to remain on when you 
print from the other devices, but the great thing about this printer is that 
it will also connect through RJ-45 LAN cable to your router, or Wi-Fi, 
meaning if you use these methods of connection, it now becomes a network 
printer, and you can print anytime you want over the wireless connection in 
your home.  It's also got a USB, SD card and MMC card slot which allows you 
to edit pictures directly on the printer screen for printing, or for 
importing onto your computer.


The other great thing about this multi-function printer is that it's got 
both a document feeder, and a flat bed scanner, so you're not relegated to 
just the one scanning type.


Either way, Once you install the Brother Status Monitor and Control Center, 
and the application is launched and you're in the main window, use your Jaws 
cursor to left click on the configure button, which will bring up a menu.


In that menu, you'll find a Settings sub-menu, press the enter key, or the 
right arrow key to expand the sub-menu, followed by a down arrow to Skin 
Select and press enter to activate.


In the resulting dialog box, select the classic menu, and you'll have access 
to all the button and tabs on the application.


If you don't know how to use the Jaws cursor, then you will need sighted 
assistance, as I'm not sure the tab and spacebar  key will allow you to get 
to and activate, respectively, the configure button that activates the menu 
you need to access in order to change the skin, but one can always try.


In any case, I'm not sure if they still sell this particular model or not, 
but if you're willing to pay a bit more, then you can get an Air Drop model 
that allows you to print from your iPhone using Brother's  cell phone app. 
Oh, and this model also comes with a handset, so it functions as a stand 
alone telephone,  and once you're in the remote setup for the machine, you 
can control the number of rings, whether you want the machine to functions 
solely as a fax machine, tax/telephone machine, or one or the other.  You 
can also configure the telephone code to remotely start the fax so that if 
you're not near the machine, you can pickup any phone in your house, press a 
key combination, and the fax machine will start up.


You can also configure whether the incoming fax gets printed, or gets 
imported into your computer, and into your favourite application for 
processing, such as Kurzweill, or Open Book.


Anyway, hope this helps.

Scorpio
-Original Message- 
From: Joeylamperis

Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Printer

Well HP has new were models of these days

Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

that's what I have now, and it's a piece of crap!

HP 6100, my son said, many people who purchesed this model, have issues 
with the ink cartridges. I just bought all new ink, the color indicator 
states it's empty when it is not, therefroe, no matter what I try to do to 
select print in black only, error msg pops up stating, print job can't 
complete due to color ink needs replacing.


You couldn't pay me to stay with HP!

 - Original Message - 
 From: Joeylamperis

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Printer


 Stay away from Epson and used Hewlett-Packard

 Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

My son is taking me to purchase another printer. He uses one of those 
Epson's  all in one models.
I just need to know if there is any particular model of this line I need 
to stay away from in regards to working with Jaws 16, on Window's 7?


Thanks for any help!

Trish
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is it my laptop keyboard or Jaws? (edited)

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Sherri,

It's most likely the touch pad located just below your keyboard.

You have to turn the touch pad sensitivity level down, so it's not picking 
up your palm movements and the like.


Alternatively, you can turn the touch pad completely off, but if sighted 
users use the laptop also, this may present a problem for them when they go 
to use the computer, though some laptops have a hotkey to turn the touch pad 
on and off.


Alternatively, you can tape a piece of paper over the touch pad, so that 
your hand isn't making contact with the pad itself.


This is what a friend of mine did, it it turned out to be successful.

If you need more information on how to perform the above tasks, send us your 
laptop manufacturer, model and if possible, your serial number, and someone, 
more than likely me, can send you the relevant text from your laptop's 
manual.  Well, except for the taping part, that one you'll have to manage on 
your own.  LOL.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype

[Scorpio Forever]

There's nothing remotely visual about this process.

You have one of two options for doing this.

The first option is, as David pointed out, going through the Skype
interface, and unchecking the box which says to run Skype when Windows
Starts.  I believe there's one more box to uncheck, something about
including Skype to call service with your internet browser, but don't quote
me on that.

The second method, is to run the MSCONFIG utility on your computer.  Type in
msconfig in the run dialog box and press enter.

In the resulting dialog box, control+tab to the services tab, and arrow down
the list and uncheck everything you see wit the word Skype in it.

Once done, control+tab to the start-up tab, and again, arrow through the
list of checkboxes, and uncheck all the items with the word Skype in it.

Once done, tab to the apply button, and press the spacebar.  Press shift+tab
a few times until you get to the ok button, and press the spacebar again.

At this point, you may or may not be prompted to re-start your computer.

Feel free to accept or decline this offer.  From this point on, when you
turn on your computer, Skype with not start automatically, as soon as your
computer boots up.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turbotax and jaws

[Scorpio Forever]

It is accessible for the most part.

It often has focus issues, but none that can't be solved by an alt+tab, or a 
seek of the Jaws cursor, but the easy step interview function is a great 
time saver, and that part is very accessible.  Intuit is touting it as very 
accessible, and though I have found their claims to be lack lustre in the 
past with their Canadian version of Turbo Tax called QuickTax, this new 
version seems to be much better than it's previous incarnation.


In any case, I believe there's a web version that is supposed to be fully 
accessible.  I would suggest you try that version out first, as it's html 
interface should be much more accessible with Jaws, as well, you can have 
access to their live support if you find it inaccessible.


Good luck.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Cursor Firefox 34.0.5

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Mike,

As a matter of fact, it worked fine, and helped me, so, I'm not sure what
happened with this other person.

Thanks for the tip, as I was having the same problem with Internet Explorer,
ever since version 11.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] software for virtual Piano

[Scorpio Forever]

I D K stands for I Don't Know, which should be used to illustrate and ask 
the question of why this was even sent to the list in the first place.


Unless I'm completely mistaken, and IDK is an actual program, in which case, 
I apologize, however, if the case is the former, then my first assessment 
stands.  Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] editing metadata tags in mp3 file

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Alan,

You can do this easily with Winamp by pressing alt+the number 3 on the 
number row.  This will open up a dialog box for the current track, and allow 
you to edit the meta-tag information.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative way of booting into a computer's BIOS

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

Thanks for all your suggestions.  Unfortunately, I'm busy all weekend, so 
will only be able to try out your suggestions tomorrow, but rest assured 
they will all get tried.


Just a couple of notes...

Lenny, I wasn't aware that CD was accessible with Jaws, but now that you've 
said to use it, I'm assuming that there's some degree of accessibility?


Rick,

Thanks for the suggestion with the fast boot, this wasn't a feature I was 
familiar with on Windows 8.1, so will report back on what I find tomorrow.


Again, thanks for everyone's help, and I'll report back when I've got some 
answers tomorrow.


Scorpio 



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[JAWS-Users] Alternative way of booting into a computer's BIOS

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

I just got a new laptop, and in my haste to attain the fastest laptop known to 
man, I installed a solid state drive in place of the 5400 rpm drive that was 
originally installed.

So, with that in mind, I did manage to attain the speeds I was looking for, but 
at a cost, for you see, like most laptops today, the manufacturer has switched 
the function key settings to their alternate functions, which wouldn’t normally 
be a problem, as I could simply go into the BIOS settings and change the 
settings around, however, the boot up time with a solid state drive is 
practically non-existent.  In fact, if I didn’t know better, I’d swear the 
computer simply went to sleep instead of shutting all the way down.  It 
literally takes about two or three seconds for the boot up process to finish, 
and so I don’t have enough time to boot into the BIOS setup screen to make the 
change.

My question then, is if there’s a way to boot into the BIOS instead of having 
to press the setup keystroke.

For those who don’t know what the heck I’m talking about...

When you turn on a computer, any computer, pressing a keystroke before Windows 
loads will get you into the motherboard settings which will control your 
computer from under the hood, so to speak.

Well, with the speed of the boot up, I don’t have time to go into the settings 
using the traditional methods, and so I need an alternative way to do this.

I’m using Jaws 15, latest build, Windows 8.1 and an HP Envy laptop.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] changes to the server

[Scorpio Forever]

David,

You may not want to do that since there's been a release of a hack that 
allows XP to receive updates until 2019.


While Microsoft is not denouncing this hack as being against their terms of 
conditions of license, they are saying that people should use the hack at 
their own risk since it's mainly for server stations, and professionals.


Having said that though, it would appear that XP's demise has been greatly 
exaggerated.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 7:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] changes to the server

This should not affect most of you, but I wanted to let you know that I am
in the process of pulling down much of the material that is dedicated to XP
since it is no longer being supported.

Just by removing the older versions of IE that I had up there dropped my
server usage over 100 MB. I just wish I could find the time to refill it
with more information that is current and I will when it presents itself.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

[Scorpio Forever]

It's not control+pause, it's Windows Key+pause, and you can do this 
keystroke from any window.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Liuda

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

Okay, fine.  Where do you do this control pause for the information?  In
what exact place must one be to secure the information intended?
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roberta Nevels
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

Do a control,  pause  then rout pc curser to jaws curser and arrow down and
see what your computer is

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of shoshana hathaway
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

I'm going to be downloading JAWS 15, probably tomorrow, and I know I'm going
to have to choose 32 or 64 bit (or some such).  What I don't know is which I
need, and I can't find the information anywhere I've looked in my computer
C. drive information.

I'm running Windows 7 ultima and IE 9 or 10 if that's the information
needed.  If not ...um ...I'll try to figure it out.

Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Pedro,

The information in that window is only readable using the Jaws cursor, or by 
virtualizing the window with Jaws key+alt+W, or Jaws key+control+W if using 
Jaws 11 or earlier.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio


Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

Hi Pedro,

Yes it does  Jaws would report it if it were a 64 bit system. so, being
your system is 32 bit, that's why it isn't in the system properrties. At
least, not on my XP Pro system as well.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Pedro Romero

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really


Does this command also work with Windows XP Professional? When I pressed
Windows+Pause, I landed in a multi-paged dialog with lots of information but
didn't see anything about whether I had a 32 or 64 bit machine.

Pete
- Original Message - 
From: Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really



It is windows pause I think


-Original Message- 
From: Liuda Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:12 PM To:

jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer
question, but on topic, really
Okay, fine.  Where do you do this control pause for the information?  In
what exact place must one be to secure the information intended?
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roberta Nevels
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

Do a control,  pause  then rout pc curser to jaws curser and arrow down
and
see what your computer is

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of shoshana hathaway
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

I'm going to be downloading JAWS 15, probably tomorrow, and I know I'm
going
to have to choose 32 or 64 bit (or some such).  What I don't know is which
I
need, and I can't find the information anywhere I've looked in my computer
C. drive information.

I'm running Windows 7 ultima and IE 9 or 10 if that's the information
needed.  If not ...um ...I'll try to figure it out.

Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

[Scorpio Forever]

I should also note that the same information can be gotten by highlighting 
the My computer icon on the desktop, or the Computer icon using Vista or 
later, then pressing alt+enter.


Hope this helps those who don't know where their pause key is.  Smiles.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 9:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

It's not control+pause, it's Windows Key+pause, and you can do this
keystroke from any window.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Liuda

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

Okay, fine.  Where do you do this control pause for the information?  In
what exact place must one be to secure the information intended?
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roberta Nevels
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

Do a control,  pause  then rout pc curser to jaws curser and arrow down and
see what your computer is

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of shoshana hathaway
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] computer question, but on topic, really

I'm going to be downloading JAWS 15, probably tomorrow, and I know I'm going
to have to choose 32 or 64 bit (or some such).  What I don't know is which I
need, and I can't find the information anywhere I've looked in my computer
C. drive information.

I'm running Windows 7 ultima and IE 9 or 10 if that's the information
needed.  If not ...um ...I'll try to figure it out.

Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing office 2013

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Leonard,

Office 13 will automatically uninstall office 10 before it installs itself.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: leonard morris

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 8:14 PM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing office 2013

I will be receiving office 2013. Currently, I am using office 2010. I know I
can leave office 2010 on my system but if I choose to uninstall it will
Office 2010 My Documents be untouched?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] external portable harddrive

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Kevin,

Depending on whether the drive is self powered, or USB powered, it could be 
an issue of the drive not getting enough power to run.


Make sure that the drive is powered on properly, meaning all electrical 
connections are made and any power buttons are switched to the on position.


Also, make sure that the drive is plugged into a USB 2.0 port, and nothing 
less.  This actually helps you with my next point, which is that if the 
drive is not self powered, meaning there are no electrical cords to plug 
into an electrical socket, then you can only use a USB 2.0 port, or else, 
get a USB cord with two USB male connections on one side so you can plug it 
into two USB 1.0, or 1.1 ports, as that's the only way you'll get the drive 
to have enough power to run.


Hope this helps.

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] external portable harddrive

I bought a   Seagate Expansion 500GB Portable External Hard Drive USB 3.0 
from amazon thinkinking it would be just like a flashdrive.
I received it and opened it and connected it to my computer and I got the 
normal computer is detecting your new device, then computer device driver 
installed successfully.  then I searched in my computer and I could not find 
an icon for the drive, in other words its not there!

anyone have any insights about what I need to do?
I already searchedSeagate for answers with no luck or even an email 
support contact.

email is golden !
Kevinlee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE Flagging MY PC As Potentially Unprotected

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Gerald,

I'm confused, when you go to your system tray with the Jaws Key+F11, then go 
to the PC Potentially Unprotected, then left double click on the item, you 
should be able to use your Jaws cursor to see why your PC is potentially 
unprotected.


Is this not the case?

Sorry, I've just never seen this before that one couldn't find out why their 
PC was potentially unprotected.


Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE Flagging MY PC As Potentially Unprotected


That used to be the case, but not anymore.  Running a scan does not get rid
of the potentially unprotected message in the System Tray.  The fact that I
began getting this message yesterday, just five days before support for XP
ends seems to be more than just a coincidence.  Maybe it's a warning from MS
that although support for MSE will continue until July 2015, a computer may
still be potentially unprotected as long as it keep running XP.  So are any
other XP users on this list who also use MSE getting this potentially
unprotected message, too?

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE Flagging MY PC As Potentially Unprotected


All you have to do when you get that message is to do a scan and it goes 
away. Jim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of

Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE Flagging MY PC As Potentially Unprotected

Hi RJ,
See my post to Gerald, definition updates doesn't make a difference.
HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: RJ rjf...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE Flagging MY PC As Potentially Unprotected


You have to update the definitions.
Open the program from the system tray
Go to the update tab
Alt+ u
And let it update.
Not sure, but you may have to reboot.
- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE Flagging MY PC As Potentially Unprotected




Hi gang.  For the past two days, the Microsoft Security Essentials icon 
in

the System Tray of my XP computer has been showing PC Status Potentially
Unprotected.  Using the JAWS cursor to read the History tab, I notice
that there are options labeled remove and remove all at the bottom of
the page , presumably to remove harmful items that have been quarantined,
but when I attempt to click on either of these options with the left 
mouse
button, nothing happens, and my PC status remains potentially 
unprotected.

Neither running a full scan nor rebooting my computer changes the status
to protected.  So how can I get MSE to change the status of my PC from
potentially unprotected to protected?  Thanks for any help.

Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1

[Scorpio Forever]

I was under the impression that Windows Defender was taking the place of 
Microsoft Security Essentials, and that the basic program hadn't changed, 
only the name, but the protection was essentially the same.


Is that not true anymore?

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1

No, you can't run two anti-virus programs together.  They will potentially
conflict.

You can run another malware program for anti-spyware but not another
anti-virus program unless you disable the other anti-virus program.

If you want a decent malware program, get malwareBytes from malbytes.org

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1



What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too?

Kathy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee

Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 
8.1


Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long 
time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Justice

Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 
8.1


Hi Dan,
MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender.
Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security 
software can't be used.

Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me.
HTH,
Rick Justice

People say I'm crazy,...
but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity!

- Original Message -
From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1


hi all,

i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not 
compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been 
re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV


any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] For Sugar, adobe

[Scorpio Forever]

I heard Ninite isn't allowing Adobe installations any longer.

Was I misinformed?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Walter Ramage

Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] For Sugar, adobe

Hi Sugar.  I've not been folloing this thread but happened to open this one
and an earlier post.  Do I have it correct that you want to instal Adobe but
without the toolbars and other garbage?  If so the best wayis to go to
Ninite and download adobe from there.  The install is simple and you won't
get stuff like google toolbars or Chrome or anything you don't want.  If
I've misunderstood, then ignore this post.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: 04 December 2013 15:50
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash problem

I just had my sighted husband uncheck it, but other than this I was going to
install it then go and uninstall it, it is the only other option I can see.
sugar
I can see, and that is why I can be happy, in what you call the dark, but
which to me is golden. I can see a God-made world, not a man made world.
`Hellen Keller
~Sugar

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash problem

I do not see a way to keep from installing Chrome.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash problem


Trish, just install Adobe Flash Player from the following page and be sure
to uncheck the box for installing Google Chrome and Tool Bar, which is
checked by default.  This should install Flash Player for IE without any
unwanted software.  However, if you use this same page to download and
install Flash Player for Firefox, you will automatically install a little
utility called McAfee Security Scan Plus.  There is no way to deselect this
program when you install Flash Player for Firefox, so if you don't want it
on your computer, you will have to uninstall it manually.  Actually, I find
it to be a very useful tool for performing quick malware scans, so I left it
on my computer.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_ab=1

Gerald


- Original Message -
From: Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash problem



yeah tell me bout that. I got that update thingy, so I let it install
or rather it takes you to the site, now this is what I run into..
that toolbar/crome whatever, asking you yes install, but no box to
uncheck, so like what gives, how on earth do you know it's not going
to install if you can't get some kind of confirmation that it isn't

selected?

I could use some help with this as well if you have some tips?

- Original Message -
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein h...@hapasu.dk
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash problem


Hi Lenny.

Try using http://www.adobe.com/flash
Use the letter g to navigate to the graphic's that attend to the Adobe
Flash player installation.

Be aware of the install of additional toolbar's and software.

The install progress has changed, so it can be a bit frustrating to
complete for a jaws user.

Hans Pauli.


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From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:52 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash problem

Trying to get to http://www.kspewter.com/ I am told that I need to
update flash. When I first turned the computer on I was prompted to
update flash to version 11...
After the update I again tried the site with the same message. Trying
to update again bia the link on the page the update fails. Using the
latest I.E. on a win 7 32 bit machine. Any suggestions? The site does
work on firefox.
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It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] is it normal for a lab tops battery to go after one year

[Scorpio Forever]

Sorry if this has been covered already, but it *is*  very much possible to 
run the battery down after one year, especially if you've been using your 
laptop with the battery left on and the AC plug constantly plugged into the 
electricity and the laptop, in other words, in a perpetual state of 
re-charging.


While laptop manufacturers claim this isn't supposed to shorten the life of 
the laptop's battery, it does.


If you feel your laptop is going to be plugged in for a while, take out the 
battery and just run it off of the AC adapter.  The only issue you should 
have with this is that should you lose power in the house, your battery 
won't have your back, but then you should be saving your work in any case 
every so often.


Having said that, one of the first steps in getting a new laptop is to power 
it up and cycle it completely down, that is, run it off the battery until 
you get the Windows message that only 2% of battery is remaining on the 
charge, then charge it back up, then cycle it down again.  Do this for the 
first five or ten charges, and this will, in brief, teach the battery how to 
charge, for lack of a better term.  Just like a guidedog, laptop batteries 
have their own  training, and it must be adhered to, lest your battery go to 
the battery heaven in the sky.  Smiles.


Again, I apologize if this has been covered.  My computer was down with hard 
drive problems, and I've just recently gotten my computer back up and 
running.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] is it normal for a lab tops battery to go afterone 
year


Depending on the usage, but in my opinion for what it's worth I don't
believe so.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
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Behalf Of adrian
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 10:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] is it normal for a lab tops batery to go after one
year

is it normal for a lab tops batery to go after one year of having the lab
top?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Are there jaws scripts for c cleaner version 4.2

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi David,

Why would you need scripts for C-Cleaner?

The program is 100% accessible right out of the box.

Scorpio

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How Can I Get Yahoo Classic Mail Back?

[Scorpio Forever]

HI Jim,

I have it on good authority, and by good authority I mean mine, that it does 
work, as I'm still using classic mail now.


Have not been prompted to change at all, nor have I been forced to change 
internet browsers.


So, either it does work, or you're not lowering your screen resolution down 
low enough.


I'm sorry, but I'm speaking from experience, not theory, as I check my mail 
over the internet everyday to make sure nothing gets caught in my spam 
folder that I may need.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] R: How Can I Get Yahoo Classic Mail Back?

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Hareth,

Have you actually tried out these keystrokes with the new Yahoo Mail?

I'm wondering because some of these keystrokes look like they conflict with 
Jaws keystrokes.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How Can I Get Yahoo Classic Mail Back?

[Scorpio Forever]

I was told a neat trick by a Yahoo Tech who told me to lower your screen
resolution down to a 800 by 600 dpi, and the site will automatically switch
you back to the old mail style.

I haven't really done in-depth experimentation on just how high the dpi has
to be before it reverts back to the new Yahoo mail, but, like I said,
bringing the screen resolution to 800 by 600 should to the trick for sure.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and ZoomText?

[Scorpio Forever]

ZoomText must start before Jaws, so enable ZoomText to start automatically, 
and Jaws to not to start automatically at boot up.

Unfortunately, Jaws' video intercept interferes when ZoomText tries to read 
something, so having it start after ZoomText allows ZoomText to use the MSAA 
function built into Windows, and Jaws to load it's video intercept on top of 
what ever ZoomText places in place to be able to magnify the screen.

You should also disable any speech component of ZoomText so you don't get 
double talk without actually wanting it.  LOL.

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[JAWS-Users] Windows Vista/Windows 7 Tip: Shortcut Key to Windows Task Manager

[Scorpio Forever]

Remember how we used to press control+alt+delete in order to bring up the task 
manager in Windows XP?

Remember how simple it was?

No having to tab around to the task manager button, no worrying about if your 
speech was going to be killed off as soon as you pressed that keystroke?

Well folks, now all of that is a thing of the past.

You can quickly bring up the Windows Vista or Windows 7 Task Manager by press 
control+shift+Escape, and it will bring up the Task Manager right away, and the 
best part is, you never lose speech as it tries to decipher if you intended to 
lose your accessibility or not.  Smiles.

Anyway, just discovered this while browsing the web, so thought I would post it 
here for those who didn't know about it.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] winamp and playing more then one song

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Rick,

I should have been more clear.

When I say residual ghost images of files played in the last instance, I
meant within the playlist editor, not specifically on your computer as an
M3U file.

If you play a track and close Winamp, then simply open up an instance of
Winamp without entering on a particular track on your hard drive, in other
words, by entering on the Winamp icon on your desktop or start menu, if you
press the spacebar, you'll find that it will start playing the same track
you played the last time you used Winamp to play a file.

I just checked, and while they've fixed this particular bug and the track
does not start playing if you press the spacebar, the track list still
appears in the playlist editor, so, as long as you haven't moved that file
from it's original location when you first played it within Winamp, entering
on that track from within the playlist editor will start playing that song.
That also means that if you add any tracks to Winamp, they will be added
below that first title, and, if you're listing to a particular raunchy audio
book just prior to creating a kids party playlist, there's going to be a bit
of embarrassment when you first turn on the playlist.  LOL.

Suffice it to say, I didn't mean that it would actually save a file on your
hard drive, though, I guess, in order for Winamp to do what I mentioned
above, I guess it would have to store a file on your hard drive, though I've
never actually investigated whether Winamp does this within the temporary
memory, or permanently on your hard drive, but as I've found this to be the
case, even after re-booting my computer, I would say that it's a good guess
that the file gets saved on your hard drive.

As for the control+S keystroke, it's been in effect since version 4.5 and
onwards, though I can't say for sure that it's been around longer than that.

I have listed below the compendium of Winamp keystrokes for Jaws just in
case there are any discrepancies, with the below keystrokes being taken
directly from the Jaws application help file.

Unfortunately, Jaws help does not offer keystrokes for the Winamp Library or
the Winamp Video windows, but if and when I find such beasts, I'll be sure
to update and post the new information.

In the meantime, here are the keystrokes currently available for each of the
Winamp windows, those being the Winamp Main Window, The Winamp Equalizer
Window, and the Winamp Playlist Editor.

***Begin Winamp Keystrokes***

The following general keystrokes are available in WinAmp:

Playback commands:
To play/Restart, press X,
To pause/Resume the current track, press C,
To rewind by  5 seconds, press LEFT ARROW,
To fast forward by 5 seconds, press RIGHT ARROW,
To stop the current track, press V,
To stop the current track with Fade-out, press SHIFT+V,
To stop after the current track, press CTRL+V,
To play the next Track, press B,
To play the previous Track, press Z,
To move to the first track in the list, press CTRL+Z,
To move to the last track in the list, press CTRL+B,
To move Ten Songs Back, turn on NUMLOCK and press NUMPAD 1,
To move Ten Songs Forward, turn on NUMLOCK and pres NUMPAD 3,
To move to a time in the current track, press CTRL+J,
To move to a file, press J,

To increase the volume, press UP ARROW,
To decrease the volume, press DOWN ARROW,
To set the volume to 0%, press ALT+CTRL+M,
To set the volume to 33%, press ALT+CTRL+COMMA,
To set the volume to  66%, press ALT+CTRL+PERIOD,
To set the volume to 100%, press ALT+CTRL+SLASH,

To pan 100% left, press ALT+CTRL+H,
To pan 50% left, press ALT+CTRL+J,
To center sound, press ALT+CTRL+K,
To pan 50% right, press ALT+CTRL+L,
To pan 100% right, press ALT+CTRL+SEMI COLON,

To toggle Repeat mode, press R,
To toggle Shuffle mode, press S,

Play commands:
To open and play a File, press L,
To open and play a location, press CTRL+L,
To open and play a directory, press SHIFT+L,

Bookmark commands:
To add a bookmark, press ALT+I,
To edit bookmarks (Go to Bookmark preferences), press ALT+CTRL+i,

Visualization commands:
To go to built-in visualization options, press ALT+O,
To configure the current visualization plug-in, press ALT+K,
To start/stop the current visualization plug-in, press CTRL+SHIFT+K,
To open the Visualization page of the Preferences dialog, press CTRL+K,

Other commands:
View/Edit Track Info, Alt+3

To open WinAmp help, press F1,
To open the skin selection dialogue, press ALT+S,
To open to Main Menu, press ALT+F,
To go to WinAmp preferences, press CTRL+P,

To toggle Always-On-Top (all but Playlist Editor), press CTRL+A,
To toggle the Windowshade mode, press CTRL+W,
To toggle Double size Mode, press  CTRL+D,
To toggle Easy move, press CTRL+E,
To start a new instance of WinAmp, press ALT+CTRL+N,

Within the Winamp Main Window:

Use the following hot keys in the WinAmp main window:
To toggle the status of the WinAmpmain window,  press Alt+W.
To open/close the equalizer, press Alt+G.
To open/close the library, press Alt+L.
To open/close the play 

Re: [JAWS-Users] winamp and playing more then one song

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Brad,

Here is a tutorial I wrote some time ago on how to create, manage and play
Winamp playlists.

This should answer most of your questions, however, this is quite an old
tutorial, and some keystrokes have been discovered that make creating
playlists much easier than the methods outlined in the below tutorial.

For example, if you would like to play all the files within a specific
folder, simply highlight the folder, then press your applications key, or
shift+F10 if you are without such a key, and press P for play in Winamp.
Depending on what else you have that starts with the letter P within that
context menu, you'll either have to press enter on that option, or the
command will activate right away.  You'll have to decide which is the case
for your particular situation or computer configuration.

Also, you can do the same with specific songs within the same folder by
going into a particular folder, pressing the end key to go to the bottom of
the file list, and pressing control+up arrow selecting the tracks you wish
to include in the playlist with control+spacebar.  Once you've selected all
the tracks you wish to play, press the applications menu or shift+F10 and
press P for play in Winamp and the songs will automatically be placed in a
Winamp playlist which you can then save for later access.

Also, should you wish to add more songs to the above playlist, go into the
second folder, or third or fourth, depending on how many times you wish to
go into and out of folders, follow the same steps as above for selecting
tracks to include, then once all the songs are selected, press the
applications menu or shift+F10 and arrow down to add to Winamp, and the
tracks you selected will be placed at the bottom of the playlist you created
from the previous folder.  You can do this for as many songs or tracks you'd
like in however many folders you wish to include.

Once you've added all the songs, just save the playlist like the
instructions below.

There are other shortcut steps I've discovered, but those will come at a
later time when I've updated the tutorial.

In the meantime, hope the below tutorial helps in some way.

***Begin Tutorial***

Believe it or not, it's easier to create a playlist with Winamp, than it
sounds.

First, go to your desktop, or where ever you keep the Winamp shortcut, and
enter on it.

Once the Winamp window opens, control+tab twice to get to the playlist
editor.

If you find that you've used the control+tab keystroke twice, and Jaws
didn't say playlist editor, then that means you have the playlist editor
closed.

You can open it in one of two ways.

You can press the keystroke of alt+E, or you can press alt+F, then arrow
down to playlist editor and enter on it.

I think you'll find the alt+E keystroke is easier.  Smile.

In any case, once Jaws reports that the playlist editor is opened,
control+tab up to the playlist editor.

Now, this is going to sound weird, but go with me on this.

Once you land in the playlist editor, press control+A to highlight
everything, then press delete.

Don't worry if Jaws doesn't say anything, what you've essentially done is
delete any tracks that were in there from the last time you used Winamp to
listen to something.

Unfortunately, Winamp likes to leave residual ghost images of files it's
played in the last instance, and so, in order to create a clean playlist,
you have to delete what was previously there.

So, now that you've done that, press the letter L for lists, and this will
open up an open dialog box.

Those of you familiar with downloading from send space, or saving as and the
like, will be familiar with this dialog box.

When this dialog box opens, you'll land on the filename edit box.  Do a
shift+tab to go to the file list window just above the filename edit box.

Now, depending on where you last took Winamp, you won't know where you'll be
in the file list, so a good rule of thumb is to press the backspace key
seven or eight times until Jaws stops talking.

When he does, do a say line command with insert+up arrow, and Jaws should
read out, Not Selected My Documents.

This means you're on your desktop, and you can now go to the folder where
the files are that you want to play.

So, if the files are in a folder three levels deep into your my documents
folder, let's call it Thea's audio files, you would press the spacebar to
select My Documents, press the enter key to go into that folder, then arrow
or find the folder titled Thea's Personal Files, highlight it, then press
enter.

Once in that folder, find the next folder, called Thea in Hawaii, enter on
it, and finally go to Thea's audio files, and press enter.

Be careful here, you don't want to make a common mistake that everyone
makes, even me before I realized it, smile, do not touch any of the arrow
keys, or the spacebar key, or anything on your keyboard until you've done a
select all with control+A, and I'll explain later.

Once you've done the control+A, tab to the open button in the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Shrink document to one page in Word 2010

[Scorpio Forever]

HI Brian and Dean,

This is great advice, and therefore confirms that the features still does 
exist in Office 2010.

Does anyone know where on the ribbons this feature would be?

Not trying to be difficult, and, in fact, I'll be taking both gentlemen's 
advice and adding the appropriate buttons and keyboard shortcuts to my 
repertoire, but it would be nice to be able to tell a friend or just someone 
asking me for my help where they can go to find this feature from within the 
ribbons.

Thanks again for the great advice.

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[JAWS-Users] Shrink document to one page in Word 2010

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

I can't remember if I've asked this before, but thought I would bring it up 
again in case someone has come along and knows how to do it.

Back in Word 2003, within the Print Preview window, there used to be a toolbar 
button that would take various elements of a document like font, line spacing, 
margin width and length and various other properties, and alter them, upon 
command, of course, to bring everything to one page.

So, for example, if I had a document, let's say for argument's sake, this is a 
formal letter to someone that is about so many words in length, and the letter 
would take up only one page, if not for the signature line at the bottom which 
seems to be showing up on the second page, which is not professional in the 
least.

So, one would go into the file menu, enter on print preview, and, in the 
resulting window, one would press the alt key to activate the menu bar, then 
control+tab to get to the toolbar whereby you could move to the right and enter 
on the button which had an image of multiple pages with an curved arrow 
pointing to one page on the right side of the button.

I found this button to be a Godsend, especially where I was writing quick 
format letters that would invariably creep onto the second page with my name at 
the bottom.

Does anyone know if this feature has been moved over into Word 2010 and if so, 
how does one go about getting to it?

I thought it was called fit to page, but that particular features seems to do 
something completely different from what I need.

If anyone has any advice on what I have to do to get this feature back I would 
greatly appreciate it.

Thanks all.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] new way to access Skype

[Scorpio Forever]

It would seem that the link to the podcast section of GW's site that Alan 
gave gives me a 404 page error, so I thought I would post the direct link to 
access the podcast for the GW Skype app.

http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Presentations/audio/GWSkypedemo.mp3

Enjoy.

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[JAWS-Users] App Mode in Internet Explorer

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

I'm not sure if this is affecting everyone, but Yahoo Mail, in particular, 
Rogers Yahoo has begun using app mode on their website so that you must 
negotiate various app modules on the webpage rather than HTML.

Does anyone know of any tricks to using this sort of configuration, or even how 
to navigate through it in a quick manner?

One of the reasons I check my webmail is because I have to check my spam folder 
every now and again, and I would hate to shut that feature off with the sheer 
number of e-mails I get per day.

In any case, the links aren't anywhere near what a person is used to entering 
on.  Where the spam and trash folders used to have separate links to empty all 
the messages from the respective folders, now they seem to be merged onto one 
link so that you don't know what you're entering on.

I have to deal with this on two machines, a Windows XP and Windows 7 machine 
using Jaws 12, latest build on both, and Internet Explorer 8, again, the latest 
build.

Any tips on this phenomenon would be greatly appreciated.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] App Mode in Internet Explorer

[Scorpio Forever]

Does this page allow you to check the spam folder?

Scorpio

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win amp.

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Mandy,

When you get to the folder containing all of the files, instead of pressing 
enter on it to go into it, press your applications key, or shift+F10, if you 
don't have an applications key, then the letter P for Play with Winamp.

The letter P may activate the menu item, or it may take you directly there. 
If it does nothing except take you directly there, press enter to activate 
the menu item.

At this point, or very near this point, possibly a few seconds, depending on 
whether your computer happens to be doing something else at the time, the 
files will start playing.

I've pasted below a tutorial I did not too long ago on how to create, manage 
and play  playlists with Winamp.

While you can use the method above to actually get the files to Winamp in 
lieu of the method below, you can still use the method below if you wish to 
add more tracks to the playlist.  You can also do the above process, but 
instead of pressing the P key to get to Play in Winamp,you can press the 
letter E for the option to include in Winamp.  At this point, the folder or 
files you've selected will be appended to the end of your playlist while the 
tracks are playing, or you've paused it.

While I wrote the below  for an earlier version of Winamp, the keystrokes 
and all that other stuff are the same.

***Begin Tutorial***

Believe it or not, it's easier to create a playlist with Winamp, than it 
sounds.

First, go to your desktop, or where ever you keep the Winamp shortcut, and 
enter on it.

Once the Winamp window opens, control+tab twice to get to the playlist 
editor.

If you find that you've used the control+tab keystroke twice, and Jaws 
didn't say playlist editor, then that means you have the playlist editor 
closed.

You can open it in one of two ways.

You can press the keystroke of alt+E, or you can press alt+F, then arrow 
down to playlist editor and enter on it.

I think you'll find the alt+E keystroke is easier.  Smile.

In any case, once Jaws reports that the playlist editor is opened, 
control+tab up to the playlist editor.

Now, this is going to sound weird, but go with me on this.

Once you land in the playlist editor, press control+A to highlight 
everything, then press delete.

Don't worry if Jaws doesn't say anything, what you've essentially done is 
delete any tracks that were in there from the last time you used Winamp to 
listen to something.

Unfortunately, Winamp likes to leave residual ghost images of files it's 
played in the last instance, and so, in order to create a clean playlist, 
you have to delete what was previously there.

So, now that you've done that, press the letter L for lists, and this will 
open up an open dialog box.

Those of you familiar with downloading from send space, or saving as and the 
like, will be familiar with this dialog box.

When this dialog box opens, you'll land on the filename edit box.  Do a 
shift+tab to go to the file list window just above the filename edit box.

Now, depending on where you last took Winamp, you won't know where you'll be 
in the file list, so a good rule of thumb is to press the backspace key 
seven or eight times until Jaws stops talking.

When he does, do a say line command with insert+up arrow, and Jaws should 
read out, Not Selected My Documents.

This means you're on your desktop, and you can now go to the folder where 
the files are that you want to play.

So, if the files are in a folder three levels deep into your my documents 
folder, let's call it Thea's audio files, you would press the spacebar to 
select My Documents, press the enter key to go into that folder, then arrow 
or find the folder titled Thea's Personal Files, highlight it, then press 
enter.

Once in that folder, find the next folder, called Thea in Hawaii, enter on 
it, and finally go to Thea's audio files, and press enter.

Be careful here, you don't want to make a common mistake that everyone 
makes, even me before I realized it, smile, do not touch any of the arrow 
keys, or the spacebar key, or anything on your keyboard until you've done a 
select all with control+A, and I'll explain later.

Once you've done the control+A, tab to the open button in the dialog box, 
and press the spacebar to allow Winamp to place all the files you just 
selected into the playlist.

Now, the reason I said not to touch anything once you land in the folder is 
because Winamp, and, indeed, Windows, in it's infinite wisdom, has a little 
bug.

In most cases, when you're selecting a bunch of files to transfer over to 
another drive or whatever, say you want all the files except for the first 
one, a person using common sense would arrow down to the second file, then 
press control+shift+end to highlight all the files from that point downward. 
Once they're selected, the person would copy or cut the files, go to the 
destination where they want the file placed, then paste them in there.

Only one problem, you suddenly notice that the last file that was at the 
bottom of the list, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected View in Attachments

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Alan,

Could you please post the answer so others can benefit from it also?

Thanks.

Scorpio

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[JAWS-Users] Accessing the Windows Language Bar

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi All,

I'd like to know if it's possible to access the language bar that comes 
pre-installed with Windows, either XP, or Windows 7, and if so, is anyone using 
it successfully with Jaws?

I would like to use a different language when doing various things on my 
computer, and have not found a successful way of accessing the language bar 
without sighted assistance.

Everyone I've talked to in the computer industry tells me that I need to access 
the language bar in order to access what it is I'm looking to do, but again, I 
haven't seemed to find an access key to the language bar.

Any help would be appreciated.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessing the Windows Language Bar

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Jamie,

Thanks very much for this, I'll see what I can pull out from it and let 
everyone know how it goes.

Again, I do appreciate this.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] winamp with jaws 13

[Scorpio Forever]

Hello Ming,

Please make sure that you are in the right Winamp pane when you're adjusting
the volume.

The volume up and down keys only work in the Winamp main window.

Try control+tab to go around the Winamp panes until you get to the Winamp
main window.

The easiest way to figure out which is the Winamp main window if Jaws isn't
telling you is to try to turn up the volume or turn it down after each press
of control+tab.

Once you hear that the volume has changed, you know you're in the Winamp
main window.

Scorpio


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 13 OCR

[Scorpio Forever]

While very long PDF documents are better left to Open Book, or Kurzweill, 
the OCR function in Jaws 13 could come in handy for checking out fax pages 
received by e-mail, and if the fax contains multiple pages, one can OCR the 
first page, then press control+page down to go to the next page, and use the 
OCR tool to read that second page, and so on down the number of pages in the 
fax.

This will definitely come in very handy for me in my business.

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[JAWS-Users] GoldWave File Length and Splitting Issue

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

I am attempting to split a large file into smaller chunks and I'm having 
trouble with it for the first time ever.

First, the relevant facts...

I'm currently using the latest build of GoldWave and Jaws 12, and the latest 
GoldWave scripts from the Jaws-Users scripts page.

I'm also using Windows XP home edition on a Toshiba laptop.

Now the particulars of the case.

The file I'm trying to split is just under 6 and a half hours long, this 
according to Winamp, my BookSense XT and the status line under Windows Explorer.

Once loaded into GoldWave, however, GoldWave reports that the file is only 23 
minutes and 17 seconds long after doing a control+A to highlight the entire 
file.

I've even attempted to move, both the start and end markers to the end of the 
file, and playing on from there, but no go.  I can't for the life of me 
understand why I can't get past the 23 minutes and 17 second mark.

A few possibly irrelevant facts are that this is an Audible converted file, and 
though GoldWave states that there's only 23 minutes in the file, when I play 
the file on my BookSense XT, or in Winamp, the entire file is there at just 
under six hours and a half.  Another possibly irrelevant fact is that when 
reading the status bar in Windows Explorer, the status line is reading the 
entire file is there at the 6 and a half hours, but it's stating that it's a 
quicktime format file, even though the extension is MP3.

If anyone has any ideas as to why this is happening, I would appreciate your 
input.

Thanks.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for the yahoo scripts that are in hanced by some one and jetendra.

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Mich,

Try installing/copying the script package to the Jaws 11 settings directory, 
as you did for the Jaws 7 directory, then re-start Jaws, and this should fix 
your problem.

Hope this helps.

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[JAWS-Users] Looking For Any Tutorials on How to Record a Tutorial

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

I have tried to look at various locations, but have not been able to find a 
tutorial, written or in audio, on how to record a tutorial using my computer.

I have heard the type of tutorial I would like to record, that being one with 
Jaws and my voice being recorded at the same time, but I haven't seen any out 
there that teach one what settings/programs to use, or what sort of set-up I 
would need in order to accomplish this sort of thing.

I do have a headset/microphone combo and GoldWave, latest build at my disposal, 
so it's not like Im lacking, so it's just a matter of letting me know how I 
can make it so Jaws comes through the recording as part of the recording, and 
not something that just happens to be caught by my microphone in the 
background, if that makes any sense.  Sheepish Grin.

If anyone knows of a location where I can find something of this nature, I 
would really appreciate it.

Thanks all.

Scorpio
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[JAWS-Users] Telephone Numbers Not Displaying on Webpages

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

Is anyone having a problem while using Jaws 12, latest build, Windows XP, and 
Internet Explorer 8, that when ever you go to a website looking for a telephone 
number on their contact us page, the phone number is plastered all over the 
page, however, not the entire phone number is displayed, only the first few 
numbers, followed by several dots.

For example, I just went to the Do Not Call Registry looking for the telephone 
registration number, and I got a 1-800-

Is this a Jaws issue, an Internet Explorer issue, or are WebPages specifically 
trying to keep us from telephone them?

If anyone else is experiencing this, and possibly knows how to fix it, I would 
appreciate knowing how to do it.

Thanks all.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw12 focus problem

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I have also been having trouble with this same issue.  Using Jaws 12, and 
Windows XP, but using Internet explorer 8, and Outlook Express 6.

I encounter this issue, mainly on WebPages though, and not necessarily in 
the file explorers.

I also seem to have trouble with Outlook Express, again, with the same focus 
issues, and reading the message directly after the message I just landed on, 
after deleting the message I was just reading in the preview pane.

It gets mighty confusing, as I'll have to do a say line command to get the 
right message I'm on in the message list pane.

Has anyone figured out a fix for this?

Thanks.

Scorpio 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] User Account pop-up.

[Scorpio Forever]

There's also a setting you can set in the Google search preferences at the 
top of the tabbing order somewhere, that will allow you to filter out 
x-rated hits and so on and so forth, and you can set it to exclude those 
kinds of results.

Personally, I've never come up with any x-rated hits, while searching for 
something g-rated, unless I was looking for something x-rated  that is. 
LOL.

Scorpio 


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[JAWS-Users] Cursor Jumping Around With Jaws 12

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this for themselves?

When I'm on a webpage, the focus seems to jump from one place to another, and 
links aren't activating when entering on them in several cases.

The same is happening with Outlook Express, where the message will read the one 
before it, or, it'll say not selected on the message after the one I'm actually 
sitting on, and so I have to wait until Jaws reads the headers of the next 
message before I can read the headers of the current message I'm sitting on.

Websites are the worst though.  I'll be on one part of the page, and suddenly 
the focus will jump to another area of the page, or, Jaws will be sluggish and 
slow to respond to my keystrokes on a webpage.

Another example I can posit is on the Yahoo Webmail site, when I'm sitting on a 
message, and I'm in the first heading of the page, where the subject line is, 
I'll try to tab to the add to address book link, and it jumps to the end of the 
message, several links down, and so have to shift+tab up to the link I wanted 
in the first place.

Again, I'm using the latest build of Jaws 12, Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, 
and Outlook Express 6.

Aside from the Yahoo mail site, located at:

http://mail.yahoo.com

I can give the following website as an example where the focus and cursor jump 
around drastically, and Jaws is slow to respond:

http://www.futureshop.ca

I hope people can, either, corroborate my experiences, or have a solution that 
will help me solve the issues.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11

[Scorpio Forever]

I'm afraid we can'p help you until you tell us what version of Jaws you're 
running.

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[JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Zoom-Text

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Folks,

A friend of mine is looking to use Jaws with Zoom Text, but he's not sure if he 
can make it work.

Is anyone on the list successfully using Jaws with ZoomText, and if so, could 
you please share your settings so that I know how I should let her know to 
configure each piece of software?

Thanks all, and I look forward to any responses.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changes and fixes in update for the JAWS 12 PublicBeta posted September 22nd

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Eric,

Any word on if Jaws is going to be modified so we can access the Adobe Flash 
update dialog box?

Scorpio 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Follow up from Adobe: Accessibility concern

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi All,

You can bypass this problem by going to the Adobe website, and installing 
the latest version from the website after entering on the accessibility link 
at the top or bottom of every page.

Entering on those links takes you to an accessible version of the site, and 
lets you install the latest version of the Flash and PDF viewer.

Just thought everyone should know.

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[JAWS-Users] Going Back to Internet Explorer 7 from Internet Explorer 8

[Scorpio Forever]

In response to the person having a dilemma using Internet explorer 8 with her 
earlier version of Jaws, here is something I wrote up for someone else, and 
thought it could be used in this instance.

*Please read the below document in it's entirety before performing any part of 
this tutorial.  This is done to help you know what will be happening with your 
computer during the processes detailed below.

Once you have completed the steps, Windows Internet Explorer 8 will have been 
uninstalled, and your computer will re-install Internet Explorer 7 by default 
and on it's own, which worked much better with earlier versions of Jaws, prior 
to version 10.

Make sure to follow these steps to the letter, and keep referring back to this 
document when needed.

Do the following to uninstall Internet Explorer 8.

1. activate the start menu with the start menu key to the right of the control 
key on the left hand side of the keyboard , or press the keystroke of 
control+escape.

2. press the letter S until you get to settings and press enter to activate 
the sub-menu.

If you do not hear settings, and hear control panel instead, then just press 
the enter key to go into the control panel.  The first thing you should hear 
Jaws say is Accessibility Options:.  If you do not hear this, then press the 
enter key until you do.  If you do hear Jaws say this, then continue to the 
next step.

3. press the letter A until you hear Jaws say Add or Remove Programs and 
press enter.  Once you press enter, a dialog box will pop up, and Jaws will 
focus on the Change and Remove Programs button.  At this point, you should 
wait for the program list to load, which could take a few minutes depending on 
your computer.

4. I believe that earlier versions of Jaws, from 9 and down, still read the 
program list as not selected, and if that's the case, disregard the not 
selected part, and arrow down the list to Windows Internet Explorer 8.

5. tab until you hear Jaws say, Windows Internet Explorer 8 Remove Button and 
press enter to start the uninstallation process.

6. Once you press enter, a dialog box will pop up.  Just follow the 
instructions to remove Internet Explorer 8.  I do believe that all this will 
involve is pressing the spacebar on a number of next buttons until the 
removal process is finished.  When it is done, it may ask you to re-start your 
computer, if it does, follow the instructions for re-starting your computer and 
skip to step 8.

7. After the uninstallation of Internet Explorer 8 is finished, and the program 
has not asked you to re-start your computer, re--start your computer the 
conventional way by going to the start menu, arrowing up to the shut down 
option, and pressing enter.  In the resulting dialog box, arrow to the re-start 
option, and press enter.

8. Once your computer re-starts, you will have to be vigilant with your updates 
from now on.

The next time you go to perform a Windows or Microsoft Update, you will find 
that one of the updates is Windows Internet Explorer 8.  This update should be 
disabled, and hidden away so that it never shows up until you upgrade your 
version of Jaws, or you want it to, which ever comes first.

If you are doing this from, either the Windows Update website, or the Microsoft 
Update website, proceed with the following steps.

9. Go back into your start menu, and press the down arrow until you hear 
Microsoft Update, or Windows Update, and press enter.  An Internet explorer 
window will open up, and you'll be taken to the Microsoft update or Windows 
Update website, depending on which you pressed enter on above.  Wait until the 
page loads, you may hear a number of clicks in the meantime, which are the 
various components and active X components initializing,  and find the custom 
button and press the spacebar or enter.

10. Wait until the site finishes it's search for the updates your computer  
requires, at which point, you should see one update available, now whether this 
update will be found in the high-priority updates, or the software optional 
updates I do not know, but where ever it is press enter on that link, at which 
point, the main section of the page will change.  Press insert+escape to 
refresh the Page buffer so that Jaws sees the new information on the page.  
This last keystroke is not generally required, but I feel it is better to be 
safe than sorry later on.

11. Arrow down to the main section of the page, or simply press the letter F 
to get to the first forms element the page, which should be a checkbox.  If 
that box is checked, press the spacebar to uncheck it, if it is not checked, 
just do nothing and proceed to the next step.

12. arrow past the title and description, if applicable, of the update, and 
look for the checkbox just after it.  Make sure that checkbox is checked.  Jaws 
may read what that checkbox is for, but if it doesn't, that checkbox is to hide 
the update and to never show it to you again.

If you do not see this