Recording next year's membership subs paid this year
I am doing the accounts for a small club/association. Each year is already a separate ledger file. People often pay next year's membership subscriptions this year, so how should I record this in ledger this year (when they paid and we have the money) and next year (when it is a current membership)? Details of who paid and what kind of membership it is should be easily reportable for memberships valid in a single year from just that year's file. Thanks for any suggestions. Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/a35f87759ddc64169c17809fb0ce72a2%40bruno.
Re: A how to question - -
On Monday, 25 Sep 2023 at 09:37, o1bigtenor wrote: > As soon as you even think of calling it 'Income' the tax man wants his hunk. I have used income:taxable and income:taxfree in the past to disambiguate. Tax free income, at least in the UK, does exist in the form of, for instance, interest from various allowable types of savings accounts. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.1 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87lecumgie.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: A feature idea: An alternative org-mode input format
On Thursday, 9 Feb 2023 at 11:40, John Wiegley wrote: > I was thinking of creating a separate tool for translating specially formatted > Org-mode files into Ledger files. For example, this entry: Why not just use ob-ledger? Then your entry would look like --8<---cut here---start->8--- #+PROPERTY: header-args:ledger :tangle ledgerfile * Adobe Acrobat Pro :PROPERTIES: :ID: 076497DC-45F7-43EC-BFDA-00177EFC3C0D :CREATED: [2023-01-25 Wed 21:40] :END: #+begin_src ledger 2023-01-10 Adobe Acrobat Pro Expenses:Administrative $33.59 Equity:Admin:Somebody #+end_src --8<---cut here---end--->8--- The only negative aspect would be having to repeat the description of the entry. Tangling would create the ledgerfile which you can then process using other babel src blocks or directly with ledger on the command line. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-01-06) on Debian 11.5 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/875yc9vm1c.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: ledger-accounts-file?
On Wednesday, 27 Oct 2021 at 14:53, stan laurel wrote: > I edit to read ~/Accounts.ledger which is where all my accounts are listed > and it still comes back 'mismatch'. Untested but maybe ledger requires the full path name, i.e. it may not expand ~? -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87mtmt1nza.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Year end date
On Monday, 22 Feb 2021 at 07:20, o1bigtenor wrote: > May I suggest that you are making life more difficult for yourself and > to the OP there is a simple yet, imo anyway, elegant solution. Thank you. I do use -b and -e as well. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87v9akqlcu.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Year end date
On Monday, 22 Feb 2021 at 00:59, Dan Sladden wrote: > Is there a way of specifying the date of the financial year end so I can > use --yearly (or an appropriate *PERIOD_EXPRESSION)* to show annual data > for each year from e.g. 6 April to 5 April? This would be a nice feature to have! My solution has been to have a separate ledger file for each tax year but that means transferring balances at the end of one year to create the new year's file which sometimes leads to issues should anything need to be updated in the previous year's records (missing entry, for instance). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87lfbgs2lv.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Request for assistance - - - saving files
On Friday, 20 Nov 2020 at 08:25, o1bigtenor wrote: > H -- -- interesting that you call a vertical line a curve -- > --yes? as a mathematician, a vertical line does indeed come under the designation of curve... ;-) -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87ft50mde2.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Request for assistance - - - saving files
On Thursday, 19 Nov 2020 at 12:30, o1bigtenor wrote: > So - - - I'd bet this procedure in emacs is hard coded - - -yes? Not quite sure what you mean about hard code. In Emacs, other than the very small core of code written in C, the code is written in Lisp and totally user accessible, meaning that almost all the functionality can be modified by the user (although needing to know Lisp etc., of course). This is actually what makes Emacs incredibly powerful and adaptable. But also what, to some (to all?), makes it difficult, having a very steep learning curve. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/875z60qgzm.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Request for assistance - - - saving files
On Thursday, 19 Nov 2020 at 09:49, o1bigtenor wrote: > The 'TL;DR' brought a smile to my face. ;-) > This kind of function just isn't in text editors Well, this isn't quite true. Emacs will create backup files when you edit one and you can ask Emacs to create new backups every time you save the file. These backup files will be numbered and you can specify how many such backups to keep. But using Emacs may not be what you would like to do... -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87eekp1f2h.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Request for assistance - - - saving files
TL;DR: I use a combination of git (as Boyd has suggested, committing changes every transaction) and rsync to back up to a different device. Longer version: there are 2 different issues here: 1. micro-management of information, e.g. changes and reasons for those changes 2. keeping back ups in case of hardware/software/user failure (e.g. rm) Different tools are appropriate for each of these but both of these issues are important in their own right. For 1, version (or revision) control systems are ideal. There are many, including git, mercurial, subversion, src, rcs, ... Each of these has their respective advantages and disadvantages and personal taste often is the deciding factor. I use src for single file revision control and git for projects. They do not provide more than simple backup but do provide the ability to roll back changes and an audit trail. For 2, I would avoid the use of symlinks and instead ensure you have a proper more general backup procedure. For instance, I rsync my whole disc to a different computer in a different site frequently (hourly often but at least once a day in any case) during the day and I do full scheduled backups onto detachable drives periodically (weekly or monthly depending on how I feel). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87blft5y9l.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Need help just getting started
On Friday, 17 Jul 2020 at 12:37, Oliver Hardy wrote: > If someone can point me to where in the man pages it describes how to > create a journal I would be grateful. Also how does one create accounts, > add entries Just in case, maybe you're missing the very simple point that you create the files yourself manually. The program doesn't create files or add accounts for you. It takes a ledger file and outputs different information from it. This is unlike other accounting software you may have used in the past. So crank up your favourite text editor [1] and type in example entries from the manual. Then use the ledger command line tool to output balances, registers, etc. HTH, eric Footnotes: [1] I use Emacs which has a ledger-mode which makes entry much easier. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.7 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/875zal2iew.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: In ledger-mode, how can I color posting account names differently depending on an initial substring?
On Tuesday, 9 Jun 2020 at 06:24, dersuchmann wrote: > How can I adjust ledger-mode syntax highlighting such that a posting's > account name is colored differently depending on an initial substring? I > put all accounts either under "Assets:", "Equity:", "Liabilities:", or > "Budgets:" and would love to see each of these four groups being colored > differently while I work on the file. hi-lock-mode will allow you to do this by specifying regular expressions at the beginning of the file. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.7 on Debian bullseye/sid -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/87h7vkgu6j.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk.
Re: Auto-complete of accounts in emacs ledger-mode
On Wednesday, 12 Jun 2019 at 21:15, Alexandre Rademaker wrote: > The auto-complete with tab of accounts stop works on my emacs ! Any idea? You haven't given any details so it's difficult to diagnose. First thing: what have you changed in your environment since it last worked, including any new packages in Emacs? Secondly, what is they key you use to complete account names actually bound to in the ledger buffer? E.g. if it's the TAB key, type C-h k TAB to see what Emacs thinks should happen when you hit that key. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.2.3 on Debian 9.9 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ledger-cli/xuu6ef3xu9u6.fsf%40ucl.ac.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Please, make a new relelase
I didn’t — should have searched around a bit more before pressing send. Thanks for the pointer! —eric > On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:30, jungle Boogie wrote: > >> On 1 June 2018 at 10:13, Eric Portis wrote: >> I’d just like to second this. >> >> I discovered/reproduced/isolated the bug described here: >> https://github.com/ledger/ledger/issues/532, searched for it in issues, >> added a +1 there, and today see that it was fixed a year and a half ago (but >> I'm on the stable version, installed via Homebrew). > > Did you also see this issue? > https://github.com/ledger/ledger/issues/523 > > John references this bug from holding the release back: > https://github.com/ledger/ledger/issues/546 > >> >> I’m tempted to install from source? > > It was easy on linux, not so much on openBSD. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ledger" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Please, make a new relelase
I’d just like to second this. I discovered/reproduced/isolated the bug described here: https://github.com/ledger/ledger/issues/532, searched for it in issues, added a +1 there, and today see that it was fixed a year and a half ago (but I'm on the stable version, installed via Homebrew). I’m tempted to install from source? On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 4:05:11 AM UTC-8, Vitaly Lipatov wrote: > > Please, plan a new release. It is hard to maintain application when it > rare released. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Please, make a new relelase
On Wednesday, 13 Dec 2017 at 15:49, Michael Cooper wrote: > I would generally agree with the "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" ideal, > but in Ledger's case, there is almost 2 years and 172 commits worth of > development, according to Github [0], since the release of 3.1.1. There > should be at least a plan for when that effort is going to be deemed > suitable for a new release. Otherwise it goes to waste. Ah, okay. Thanks. I had not been aware of this number of commits since last release. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, org 9.1.4 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Please, make a new relelase
On Wednesday, 13 Dec 2017 at 04:05, Vitaly Lipatov wrote: > Please, plan a new release. It is hard to maintain application when it rare > released. Curious: why? If an application works, why is there a need for a new release? -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, org 9.1.4 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: ledger-mode color customization
On Thursday, 11 May 2017 at 22:13, James wrote: > hi, > I was wondering if it is possible to change the ledger-mode entries > (at the > moment its red and blue) on my emacs. > And which file would I have to edit to change colors. > Thanks The easiest way, in my opinion, is: 1. put cursor on some text whose properties you wish to change. 2. type C-u C-x = which will display the properties of the text 3. find out from properties which face you need to customise 4. type M-x customize-face RET the.face.name.from.above RET 5. change and save changes -- Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Info files in Emacs?
Apologies if this gets asked a lot, but there are fewer facilities for searching these newsgroups than there used to be... After a bit of a financial hiatus/period of irresponsibility, I'm tracking finances for my small company again. I run Arch Linux and Emacs, and have both the Arch ledger and the Emacs ledger-mode packages installed. Neither have given me Info manuals, however -- I seem to remember getting both by default. I see the ledger-mode repo has a doc/ledger-mode.texi file -- couldn't that be built for the Melpa package? And, ideally, the ledger/doc/ledger3.texi file for the Arch package? What would have to be done to get those Info files available? Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new docs site, anyone ?
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:21:56 -0500, Martin Blais <bl...@furius.ca> wrote: 8>< > In the meantime you have a inexistant hypothetical "libre" wiki server > which once you get consensus over who will take care of it will require > ongoing maintenance by someone who will stop paying attention at some > point and then it will rot out of date within three months. I've been > there before, maintained a few of those myself. Somebody sets it up, and gets a couple of other community members with suitable skills to help keep an eye on it, including full admin on whatever is running it. They're not all going to go away at once, and when one does they get replaced. You might shift hosts from time to time, but never domains. A wiki is self-maintaining, or, rather, community maintained. There will sometimes be arguments about how content should be presented or organised, but this gets settled. By way of example, wiki.tcl.tk (running since 1999) is like this! > In the meantime I have an real, live ongoing conversation with my > users in the documents which are constantly lighting up with feedback, > buttressed by 100's of world-class engineers on their own cloud. For free. And do you have a local download of the content, including all the feedback, and is it up to date? No-one expects Google to go away, and I won't get into the "evil" argument, but they do change, drop, and replace their services and terms and conditions from time to time. What happens when it ceases to be suitable? Even if someone has complete content, conversion to somewhere else may well be a lot more work than "a few hours with emacs". Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: support negative arguments in xact?
John Buxton lquer...@gmail.com writes: Try: ledger xact -- restaurant 24 credit -14 cash -10 The '--' stops option processing. That works great -- thanks very much for the tip! -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
support negative arguments in xact?
Is there any way that negative values could be supported in ledger xact. I've got a few fairly complicated recurring postings where I need to specify one of the lines as a negative value, and no variety of quoting approaches has allowed me to specify, for example: ledger xact restaurant 24 credit -14 cash -10 Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Balance assertions with lot prices?
Mostly paranoia. Since switching from gnucash to ledger I've messed things
up majorly a couple times with overzealous search and replace cleanup and
want to avoid that as much as possible.
My main use case is that I get a stock statement and want to do an account
reconciliation at the lot level. Adding some asserts as a marker for next
time would be nice in case I screw something up in the interim.
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
I've thought about this before: Beancount only offers checks in units, not
individual lots, neither in total cost basis for those units. This is not
an unreasonable feature to consider however, but I haven't found it to be
necessary yet.
Are you just being particularly sensitive to making assertions, or do you
have a specific use case in mind?
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Eric Weigle eric.wei...@gmail.com
wrote:
Related to the earlier question about currencies/commodities, I can't
seem to find a way to say something like this:
2015/01/01 Stock balance forward
Assets:Stock0 = 5 AAPL {$100}
Assets:Stock0 = 10 AAPL {$200}
Is this possible?
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Balance assertions with lot prices?
Related to the earlier question about currencies/commodities, I can't seem
to find a way to say something like this:
2015/01/01 Stock balance forward
Assets:Stock0 = 5 AAPL {$100}
Assets:Stock0 = 10 AAPL {$200}
Is this possible?
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Re: Further Ledger Development
Alexis surryh...@gmail.com writes: Hello everyone, lately I have been providing some patches to Ledger and John was kind enough to help out with valuable feedback, insightful conversations, and allow me access to the official Ledger repository. Thanks John! I am committed to do what I can to move Ledger forward, my main focus is getting rid of the segmentation faults, adding more tests, improving the documentation by covering all available options, and expanding the Python module. Not very sexy but... more docs! More reporting syntax examples, and real-world scenarios. The docs are a little bit wrong in a few places, but mostly they just need more examples. Larger tutorials (keeping track of stock, working in multiple currencies, etc) would be great, as many of the questions on this list are about that stuff. And thanks for working on it! Coincidentally, my ledger-git Arch package is updating as I type this... Eric John and I have been talking about various aspects and which need more work and I am currently planning what issues should be addressed for the next release (3.1.1). I am uncertain who has a say (apart from John ;) in deciding what bugs should be fixed and which features implemented, so make yourself heard and let's talk about important issues to plan a roadmap. John and I agreed to keep all P1 bugs (8 in total) and moved all P2 bugs to P3, so I can move bugs I feel should be addressed for Ledger 3.1.1 back to P2 and start working on it. Since I'm not yet too familiar with all aspects of Ledger I will also address minor bugs that I think will help me in digging deeper into Ledger's code. I found 23 segmentation fault related bugs in Bugzilla and I would like to set their Status to UNCONFIRMED, then go through them one by one and schedule the ones that can be reproduced with a master build for 3.1.1 and set their Status to CONFIRMED. John and I agreed to follow the git-flowน model for development, which means the master branch will only see updates when a new version is released as of now and development will happen on the next branch, so please make pull request against next from now on. You're more than welcome to help out if you can by contributing patches, going through Bugzilla verifying that bugs are still reproducible, sharing your knowledge so you or someone else can document it, add tests, tell your story with Ledger, share ideas or cool things you've done with Ledger, the community and Ledger will benefit from you contribution. It would be great if we can coordinate our work to gain the most from our joint effort and I invite you to talk to me; I'm afh in #ledger. Thanks, Alexis น http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ https://github.com/nvie/gitflow -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Modelling stock options in ledger
Hi Martin-
Thanks for the response- I tried that and it mostly works.
Unfortunately, encoding the strike price in the commodity means that you
need N entries in your price database for the same stock to get the value
of N different grants. I also tried setting up an equivalency of the
different commodities with the 'real' stock, but this gets back into it
reports showing that an actual amount of income, which doesn't yet exist.
What I ended up actually doing is basically what I used to do: track
estimated gross value of options in dollars. It's really what I want to
know, anyway. I wrote a short python script that does the calculation given
a list of grants and the price database, and spits out monthly records I
copy into my ledger.
Cheers
-Eric
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
Hi Eric,
I haven't done this myself yet (I don't have options), but I think what
you're doing is incorrect.
You're not meant to track the cost basis of unexercised options, e.g.,
what if they vest OOM?
I would track the cost of the option itself.
With the method I suggest below you can just enter price values for your
particular option as the underlying moves.
For example, an ITM option close to expiration should converge closely to
the payoff, so having a recent-ish database of option price values in your
ledger should allow calculation of the cash equivalent.
I had a quick shot at it below, and this is probably closer to want you
want (assuming ESP options, which I _assume_ an employer would
automatically report the gains for on your W-2, for each exercise during
the year, again, I haven't actually been in that situation so I might get
some of the particulars wrong. I read up some IRS documents online to
figure out what I needed, as I was curious).
I'd love to hear some feedback,
;; Notes:
;;
;; * I put the exercise price in the commodity name itself, e.g.,
FOO_X100, as
;; in 'X' for strike price and '100' for 100$/share. This defines the
;; instrument. Put the expiration date in there as well if you feel a
need
;; to do that (use the exchange codes if it makes sense to you).
;;
;; * I track the value of the option itself, not of the exercise price.
When
;; you use the option by exercising it, I would track that as an
expense
;; as in the below with 'Expenses:OptionsExercises' because the option
;; vanishes and it acts as a privilege token you've now used.
;;
plugin beancount.ops.auto_accounts
2014-06-01 * Stock options - acquire
Assets:BorganSchmanley:FOO-X1008 FOO-X100 {0.80 USD}
Income:BorganSchmanley:OptionsVesting ;; Note: Non-taxable if
statutory
2014-12-01 * Stock options - exercise
Assets:BorganSchmanley:FOO-X100 -4 FOO-X100 {0.80 USD} @ 120.00
USD
Expenses:OptionsExercise3.20 USD
Assets:BorganSchmanley:FOO 4 FOO {120.00 USD}
Assets:BorganSchmanley:Cash -400.00 USD
Income:BorganSchmanley:Gains -80.00 USD ;; These gains to be
reported on W-2 AFAIK.
2014-12-01 * Stock options - sale
Assets:BorganSchmanley:FOO-4 FOO {120.00 USD} @ 121.00 USD
Assets:BorganSchmanley:Cash 484.00 USD
Income:BorganSchmanley:Gains -4.00 USD
;; In my sale example above, I assume you waited a bit before selling after
;; exercise and got a small gain/loss from it. If you did not and you sold
at
;; 120.00 (same as FMV at exercise) then you would have a gain or zero.
;;
;; If you wanted to represent an exercise + sell in one transaction, you
could
;; do it this way, without the stock, you'd just get the money:
2014-12-15 * Stock options - exercise auto-sale
Assets:BorganSchmanley:FOO-X100 -4 FOO-X100 {0.80 USD} @ 120.00
USD
Expenses:OptionsExercise3.20 USD
Assets:BorganSchmanley:Cash80.00 USD
Income:BorganSchmanley:Gains -80.00 USD ;; These gains to be
reported on W-2 AFAIK.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Eric Weigle eric.wei...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how to model stock options in ledger. My goals
are that
(1) individual lots are tracked separately by the grant price, and
(2) I can track the potential value in a sane way.
This seems to work for (1) when I exercise for cash:
2014/06/01 Stock options - acquire
Assets:Stock Options:Foo 4 FOO_OPTIONS {$100} @ $0
2014/12/01 Stock options - exercise
Assets:Stock Options:Foo -4 FOO_OPTIONS {$100} @ $0
Assets:Stock:Foo 4 FOO @ $100
Income:Transient Stock$-400
2014/12/01 Stock options - sale
Assets:Stock:Foo -4 FOO {$100} @ $200
Income:Capital Gains $-400
Income:Transient Stock$400
Assets:Checking $400
But I can't seem to figure out a way to track what the exercise would be
worth at, say, August in my example. I tried adding a pricesdb value
for FOO_OPTIONS of $150
Re: How to make faster posts on ledger
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: Ledger-mode only uses ledger xact in one very specific case. Tab completion of payees, accounts, tags and meta-data is done within emacs. Oh sure -- that's what I meant. What I was misunderstanding was what the OP was looking for, I think... On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Kev Lau superinterstel...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Currently I am using nano to make my ledger entries and it takes a very long time as I have to write the full form for everything (Expenses:Car:Petrol) etc and get very tired making entries. Is there something we can do to make entries on nano faster (predictive-text)? I heard emac can take care of this. Can someone confirm on this and provide a page dedicated to emac and ledger (perhaps showing tutorials for newbies?) Appreciate feedback for this. Regards Kevin As Alexis mentioned, ledger comes with an xact command that makes it very easy to create new entries. The way Emacs takes care of this is just calling out to xact. If you could incorporate that into nano somehow, you'd be taken care of. I don't know if nano can call shell commands...? Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Modelling stock options in ledger
I'm trying to figure out how to model stock options in ledger. My goals are
that
(1) individual lots are tracked separately by the grant price, and
(2) I can track the potential value in a sane way.
This seems to work for (1) when I exercise for cash:
2014/06/01 Stock options - acquire
Assets:Stock Options:Foo 4 FOO_OPTIONS {$100} @ $0
2014/12/01 Stock options - exercise
Assets:Stock Options:Foo -4 FOO_OPTIONS {$100} @ $0
Assets:Stock:Foo 4 FOO @ $100
Income:Transient Stock$-400
2014/12/01 Stock options - sale
Assets:Stock:Foo -4 FOO {$100} @ $200
Income:Capital Gains $-400
Income:Transient Stock$400
Assets:Checking $400
But I can't seem to figure out a way to track what the exercise would be
worth at, say, August in my example. I tried adding a pricesdb value for
FOO_OPTIONS of $150, but then it thinks I have $600 rather than $200,
because it doesn't account for the $100 exercise price. All the transaction
variants I've tried for FOO_OPTIONS {$} rebase the option, which is not
what I'm hoping to do.
I'm coming from Gnucash. What I did there was to track an account Stock
options in dollars, and just do change in value transactions monthly.
This achieved #2, but not #1.
Any suggestions appreciated. Maybe some magic with virtual transactions to
track #1 and #2 separately?
Thanks
-Eric
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Re: ledger.el 3.1 destroys syntax
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: I use it every day and don't see anything like this. What emacs are you using? Yeah, I'd definitely assume gremlins of some sort -- we'd have heard about it if things were really broken that bad as a general case. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: limiting the output of --pivot=payee?
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes: Hi Eric, I tried reproducing the problem you describe but cannot (I hit other problems, but eventually get it working). Can you provide a minimal example ledger file where it fails? (Just a couple of transactions that highlight the problem.) Sure! I'm responsible for handing out translation payments for a literary magazine. I am given cash, and hand that out to people. Here's my test file: 09/01 * Magazine Company Assets:Cash 100 USD Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -20 USD ; Payee: Bob Jones Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -55 USD ; Payee: Sam Bob Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -25 USD ; Payee: Jane Doe 09/02 * Bob Jones Liabilities:Payable:Magazine 20 USD Assets:Cash So I got the money, then paid one of the translators. I run: ledger -f ~/.ledger/test.dat bal payable --pivot=payee And get: 20 USD Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -100 USD payee -20 USDBob Jones:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -25 USDJane Doe:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -55 USDSam Bob:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -80 USD This tells me that I've paid back 20 USD so far, but not to whom! When there are a big pile of payees, it becomes impossible to tell who hasn't been paid. What I'm after is a command that will produce this: -80 USD payee -25 USDJane Doe:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -55 USDSam Bob:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -80 USD Ie, just remove the postings that cancel out. Is that possible, do you think? I guess, with the --pivot option, ledger would have to treat each payee as if it were sort of an account of its own, so it knew *how* to cancel them out... Thanks again, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: limiting the output of --pivot=payee?
Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com writes: * Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net [2014-10-31 14:05]: ledger -f ~/.ledger/test.dat bal payable --pivot=payee And get: 20 USD Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -100 USD payee -20 USDBob Jones:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -25 USDJane Doe:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -55 USDSam Bob:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -80 USD This looks like the same issue as http://bugs.ledger-cli.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1048 A workaround is: ledger -f b bal liab --account payee -25 USD Jane Doe:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -55 USD Sam Bob:Liabilities:Payable:Magazine -80 USD But that's perfect! Doesn't seem like a workaround if it does exactly what I want. I don't know enough to say if the --pivot=payee behavior should be different than it is now, but this command does precisely what I want, so I'll probably be sticking with that. Thanks again, this really makes me happier with ledger as a whole. Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
limiting the output of --pivot=payee?
When I want to see how much money I owe people, I do: ledger bal liabilities:payable And see an undifferentiated total. When I want to see who I owe that money to (ie, the payees), I do: ledger bal liabilities:payable --pivot=payee Which gives me an output that seems to include all the people I've ever owed money to, with the positive and negative amounts in a big list, ending in the same balance as the first command. That makes it pretty impossible to see which payments are still outstanding. The reverse, with assets:receivable, is also true. Is there a different command I can use to see only the remaining balance of outstanding payments, and the payees for those payments, and nothing more? Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: New fontification Scheme
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: I have spent the last month overhauling ledger fontification. I gave up on using the standard REGEX based methods that most font lockers use. Instead I wrote a few functions that actually understand the semantics of a ledger xact then had jit-lock and font-lock call those. Overall there is much more flexibility and it seems to be plenty fast. The regexes I do use are much simpler. I tested with a file that had 2,613,072 postings and it was lighting fast. Comments after amounts are now properly recognized and you can fontify an entire xact based on its overall status (my favorite part, that font-lock just really couldn't do). For those of you who use lots of different directives there are now separate faces possible for all valid directives (or just use one face for all directives) Please check it out and report any bugs you find. I have banged on it for a while and it has been stable and well behaved. Of course you will find problems. Hey I'm using the ledger-git package on archlinux, and this doesn't seem to have landed there. Does anyone know who is maintaining that package (Joni according to the AUR), and if this bit is going to land soon? The package has otherwise been updated fairly regularly, I'm just not seeing new fontification. I'll ask on the AUR page if no one here has anything to do with it... Thanks, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
payee limiting question
For the longest time I haven't been able to use payee limiting in
reports in any convenient way, and I'm finally getting around to
bringing it up here. I am using git ledger, built on archlinux. Here's
the basic problem:
[eric@pellet ~]$ ledger reg assets:receivable --limit 'payee=~/CBI/'
14-May-03 CBI Assets:Receivable 2,000.00 RMB 2,000.00 RMB
14-Jun-18 CBI Assets:Receivable -2,000.00 RMB 0
[eric@pellet ~]$ ledger reg assets:receivable and CBI
[eric@pellet ~]$ ledger reg assets:receivable @CBI
{displays all postings for assets:receivable}
According to the docs and whatnot, one of the shorter forms ought to
work. The longer one is horrible to type!
Am I doing something wrong, or are the docs incorrect, or is this a bug
of some sort?
Thanks!
Eric
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Re: payee limiting question
Nathan Grigg nat...@nathangrigg.net writes:
On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Eric Abrahamsen
e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote:
[eric@pellet ~]$ ledger reg assets:receivable and CBI
[eric@pellet ~]$ ledger reg assets:receivable @CBI
{displays all postings for assets:receivable}
It should work if you combine these into
ledger reg assets:receivable and @CBI
Nathan
So it does! Thank you very much. I should have experimented a bit more...
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Re: payee limiting question
Nathan Grigg nat...@nathangrigg.net writes: On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote: This is perhaps a second question, but I'm confused as to the meaning of Ledger's filter expressions. When you say: ledger reg assets:receivable and @CBI Does it mean: Select all the POSTINGS with account Assets:Receivable AND select all the TRANSACTIONS with payee CBI? As I understand it, you are always matching postings, but the payee is propagated to each posting. I think of it as postings with given account and payee, but you may be more comfortable if you say postings with a given account and in a transaction with given payee. (Although this might also be less correct because you can override the payee per posting in a transaction.) In my case, I was hoping for something exactly equivalent in meaning to the more verbose --limit statement. So what I understood was: spit out all postings that match assets:receivable, but then only show me those with a payee that matches 'CBI'. Note that it doesn't say give me postings matching given account AND give me postings matching given payee. Despite our use of and there, this would require an OR (i.e. union) operation. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: payee limiting question
Nathan Grigg nat...@nathangrigg.net writes: On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote: So then what does this one mean: ledger reg assets:receivable @CBI Is it to be or'ed? Yes Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. I had assumed that the @CBI was simply being ignored there; now I see it really is an or. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
two ledger-mode tweaks
While Craig's giving a little love to ledger-mode, can I put in two small requests? Very small requests, but you know emacs users... One is that the posting inserted by 'ledger-add-transaction' is indented differently than what you get by calling `ledger-post-align-xact' on an existing posting. In my case, the amounts end up a few columns short of ledger-post-amount-alignment-column, which in my case is 52 (the default?). That means that after calling add-transaction, I have to additionally hit C-c C-q to re-align it. That bugs me... more than it ought to. The other thing is that sorting a file doesn't take default years into account. I've got year 2014 at the top of my file. When I insert a posting manually, I usually write 07/14 as the date. When I add a posting with xact, it comes out as 2014/07/14. That has no adverse effects, except that sorting the file does a simple lexical sort, and all the postings with a year value in the date end up at the bottom of the file. Again, not such a big deal (and this second request might be more difficult to implement than the first), but if it seemed worth addressing, one user at least would be grateful. Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: two ledger-mode tweaks
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: Add them as feature requests in bugzilla please, then I won't lose track of them. http://bugs.ledger-cli.org/buglist.cgi?product=Ledgercomponent=lispresolution=--- Done! And thanks. Thanks, Craig On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: While Craig's giving a little love to ledger-mode, can I put in two small requests? Very small requests, but you know emacs users... One is that the posting inserted by 'ledger-add-transaction' is indented differently than what you get by calling `ledger-post-align-xact' on an existing posting. In my case, the amounts end up a few columns short of ledger-post-amount-alignment-column, which in my case is 52 (the default?). That means that after calling add-transaction, I have to additionally hit C-c C-q to re-align it. That bugs me... more than it ought to. The other thing is that sorting a file doesn't take default years into account. I've got year 2014 at the top of my file. When I insert a posting manually, I usually write 07/14 as the date. When I add a posting with xact, it comes out as 2014/07/14. That has no adverse effects, except that sorting the file does a simple lexical sort, and all the postings with a year value in the date end up at the bottom of the file. Again, not such a big deal (and this second request might be more difficult to implement than the first), but if it seemed worth addressing, one user at least would be grateful. Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: two ledger-mode tweaks
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: Yzour first request is done. Please update with the latest source code. Turns out it was adding two lines and deleting one line...The year directive thingy is much trickier. I need to handle multiple year directives spread throughout the file and sort them sanely... That was swift! And yes, I'd imagine the second one would take quite a bit of effort. If and when you get to it! It's obviously just a nice-to-have... Thanks, Eric On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote: Add them as feature requests in bugzilla please, then I won't lose track of them. http://bugs.ledger-cli.org/buglist.cgi?product=Ledgercomponent=lispresolution=--- Thanks, Craig On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: While Craig's giving a little love to ledger-mode, can I put in two small requests? Very small requests, but you know emacs users... One is that the posting inserted by 'ledger-add-transaction' is indented differently than what you get by calling `ledger-post-align-xact' on an existing posting. In my case, the amounts end up a few columns short of ledger-post-amount-alignment-column, which in my case is 52 (the default?). That means that after calling add-transaction, I have to additionally hit C-c C-q to re-align it. That bugs me... more than it ought to. The other thing is that sorting a file doesn't take default years into account. I've got year 2014 at the top of my file. When I insert a posting manually, I usually write 07/14 as the date. When I add a posting with xact, it comes out as 2014/07/14. That has no adverse effects, except that sorting the file does a simple lexical sort, and all the postings with a year value in the date end up at the bottom of the file. Again, not such a big deal (and this second request might be more difficult to implement than the first), but if it seemed worth addressing, one user at least would be grateful. Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: specifying transaction schedules in ledger-mode
Richard Cobbe rco...@gmail.com writes: I'd hate to see ledger-mode's support for scheduled transactions removed entirely in favor of cron -- not least because I tend not to have my computer running 24-7, so I'd be worried about missing transactions that fall due on a day when the computer's off (because I'm out of town or something). FWIW, the cron suggesting wasn't to actually *use* cron, but to borrow from its syntax. Though, as pointed out, every other Tuesday is hard to do in cron. Additionally, I'm not sure cron would fit my usage pattern well. I chiefly use scheduled transactions for various transactions (monthly or bi-weekly) that take money out of my checking account -- and in GnuCash, I specifically had them set to appear a week before the transaction actually posts, so I could make sure I have enough in the checking account to cover them. (These are payments for which I don't get bills in advance -- things like automatic monthly transfers from checking into investment accounts, and automatic bi-weekly mortgage payments, and so forth.) Right now, I rely on the fact that I start GnuCash often enough that I see the transaction pretty close to a week in advance, and that seems to work pretty well, although of course it's not foolproof. If I had to use cron for something like this, I'd have to put a mechanism in place to notify me somehow, probably via email, that a scheduled transaction has posted. As it is, even with ledger-mode, I'll have to get into the habit of hitting C-c C-u every time I open the file. Another option that I'm still considering is just sitting down on Jan 1 or whenever and writing up (probably programmatically) a year's worth of recurring transactions into the ledger file directly, and then just running ledger bal every morning with the appropriate options to display the projected balance 7 days out. Richard Richard On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:26:11 PM UTC-4, Craig Earls wrote: cron, I never even thought of it. Brilliant. There is probably even an elisp parser already written than I can steal... On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Eric Abrahamsen er...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Craig Earls ende...@gmail.com writes: I have been very slowly working on exactly that for a long time. I keep dithering on how to represent that kind of recurrence. So, since you are the first to ask, what would you like it to look like? Cron has been around for ages and is just about as expressive as you can get -- maybe something based on that? I was think of something like: anchor date+ perodicity For example every o Third Monday starting on 2014-07-14 would be: 2014-07-14+3w I have thought of other ways and all have merits. What would you like. Keep in mind the requirement for specifying a starting point On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, Richard Cobbe rco...@gmail.com wrote: (Please forgive me if this is a duplicate post -- I'm fairly new to Google groups, and my first attempt apparently went off into the ether rather than showing up on this list.) I'm trying to transition from GnuCash to ledger, and I'm looking for an equivalent to GnuCash's scheduled transactions. I see from the ledger-mode manual that there's some support for this feature in Emacs, and I've played around with it and figured out how to do simple things, like scheduling a transaction to run every month on the 13th, say, by supplying a date in the form [*/ */13]. Is there a way to schedule a transaction to run every other Monday? I don't see how to fit that into the date syntax that's described in the manual. I took a quick look at ledger-schedule.el, and ledger-schedule-descriptor-regex appears to support more expressive date specifications than just [*/*/ 13], but it's going to take me a while to figure out what's going on here. In particular, ledger-schedule-constrain-day appears not to support all of the possible options that the regex appears to allow. Ledger 3.0.3-20140608 on MacOS 10.9.4, for what it's worth. Oh, and Emacs 24.3.1. Thanks! Richard -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout . -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ
Re: specifying transaction schedules in ledger-mode
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: I have been very slowly working on exactly that for a long time. I keep dithering on how to represent that kind of recurrence. So, since you are the first to ask, what would you like it to look like? Cron has been around for ages and is just about as expressive as you can get -- maybe something based on that? I was think of something like: anchor date+ perodicity For example every o Third Monday starting on 2014-07-14 would be: 2014-07-14+3w I have thought of other ways and all have merits. What would you like. Keep in mind the requirement for specifying a starting point On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, Richard Cobbe rco...@gmail.com wrote: (Please forgive me if this is a duplicate post -- I'm fairly new to Google groups, and my first attempt apparently went off into the ether rather than showing up on this list.) I'm trying to transition from GnuCash to ledger, and I'm looking for an equivalent to GnuCash's scheduled transactions. I see from the ledger-mode manual that there's some support for this feature in Emacs, and I've played around with it and figured out how to do simple things, like scheduling a transaction to run every month on the 13th, say, by supplying a date in the form [*/ */13]. Is there a way to schedule a transaction to run every other Monday? I don't see how to fit that into the date syntax that's described in the manual. I took a quick look at ledger-schedule.el, and ledger-schedule-descriptor-regex appears to support more expressive date specifications than just [*/*/ 13], but it's going to take me a while to figure out what's going on here. In particular, ledger-schedule-constrain-day appears not to support all of the possible options that the regex appears to allow. Ledger 3.0.3-20140608 on MacOS 10.9.4, for what it's worth. Oh, and Emacs 24.3.1. Thanks! Richard -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscribe-/ jypxa39uh5tlh3mboc...@public.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to install/use ledger emacs support?
Ra Wa rw950...@gmail.com writes: I'm an emacs newbie , usually using vim. Can someone tell me how/where to install the emacs support files (*.el) and how to invoke the reconcile command? (ledger version 3.0 compiled from github sources) I copied all the *.el files to ~/.emacs.d I created ~/.emacs with (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d) But wasnt sure what else to add. Should I use Control+C Control+R to invoke reconcile mode or has this changed? Emacs won't know by default to use ledger mode for ledger files. So tell emacs to use ledger-mode for your ledger files: (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(ledger.*\\.dat$ . ledger-mode)) Adjust the regexp if necessary, mine is like that so I can use file names like ledger.dat, ledger.thingA.dat, ledger.thingB.dat, etc. Emacs should put you in ledger mode when you open the file. If it doesn't, use M-x ledger-mode (and then figure out why it doesn't, because you want that done automatically). Then yes, C-c C-r will do reconciling. Hope that helps, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: xact doesn't return anything?
Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com writes: * Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net [2014-06-19 22:05]: ledger --sort=d --cleared xact starbucks Gives me the blank line. Is this because of the particular flags I've got in my config file, or because xact isn't meant to take any command-line flags? The problem is that the transaction generated by xact is not cleared but you specify --cleared, which means that uncleared transactions are not shown. Maybe xact should ignore --cleared. Doesn't seem to make much sense, but who knows. Aha! Thanks for that. Specifying -U or --uncleared for the ledger xact command, with my rc file in place, still doesn't give me any results -- I would have expected the command-line switch to override the rc file directive. Anyway, at least I know what the problem is, thank you! I'll remove --cleared from the rc file for now: it was only a minor convenience anyway. E -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: xact doesn't return anything?
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: That explains it. Xact requires an argument. Give it part of a payee you are interested in and it will provide you a prototype with the last xact using that payee. Sorry, I wasn't clear: it doesn't *ever* return anything, no matter what the argument. So with this posting in my ledger file: 06/19 * Starbucks Expenses:Food:Cafe 5.15 USD Assets:Cash All of these invocation return the exact same value: a blank newline, and the 0 exit code: ledger xact ledger xact Starbucks ledger xact Starbucks cafe 8 ledger xact no such account ledger xact asdfasdfadf Everything returns a blank. Thanks, Eric Craig Earls 520-300-1182 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:42, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: what exact command are you issuing? Just ledger xact from the command line. ledger xact plus *anything* (nothing, gibberish, a valid specification) returns the same thing: a blank newline. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Hi, I'm using the ledger-git package on archlinux's AUR -- it reports version 3.0.3-20140608. So far as I can tell, since that most recent update, the xact command doesn't return anything at all. From the command line and within emacs, it just spits out a newline, and that's it. Malformed input doesn't trigger an error, and valid input doesn't result in a posting. Just nothing. Running echo $? after the xact command gives me 0 -- all is well! Is anyone else seeing this? Thanks, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: xact doesn't return anything?
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: That explains it. Xact requires an argument. Give it part of a payee you are interested in and it will provide you a prototype with the last xact using that payee. Whoa, on a total whim I removed my .ledgerrc file and tried it again, and xact went back to working normally. Put it back, and it stopped outputting anything. The contents of my .ledgerrc: --sort=d --cleared That works great as bal/reg defaults, but sure enough: ledger --sort=d --cleared xact starbucks Gives me the blank line. Is this because of the particular flags I've got in my config file, or because xact isn't meant to take any command-line flags? If it isn't, could it maybe ignore .ledgerrc by default? Any other way I can shield it from those config options? Thanks, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
xact doesn't return anything?
Hi, I'm using the ledger-git package on archlinux's AUR -- it reports version 3.0.3-20140608. So far as I can tell, since that most recent update, the xact command doesn't return anything at all. From the command line and within emacs, it just spits out a newline, and that's it. Malformed input doesn't trigger an error, and valid input doesn't result in a posting. Just nothing. Running echo $? after the xact command gives me 0 -- all is well! Is anyone else seeing this? Thanks, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: 'equity' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the same account
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes: [...] I think you're just not being creative enough with it. Here's an alternative system that solves your accounting problem without resorting to virtual accounts: just count the receipts themselves. option operating_currency RMB 2014-01-01 open Assets:Merchants:C5231 2014-01-01 open Income:Salary 2014-01-01 open Expenses:Food:Restaurant 2014-01-01 open Assets:Cash ;; Amount of receipts I was promised I could gather for payment. 2014-01-01 open Assets:Receipts:Allowable RECEIPTS ;; Amount of receipts I accumulated in envelope, pending to be ;; submitted to Tax Dodgers Inc. 2014-01-01 open Assets:Receipts:Pending RECEIPTS ;; Amount of cash receipts already submitted to Tax Dodgers, waiting ;; to be received in cash. 2014-01-01 open Assets:Receipts:Receivable RMB [...] You have an account to track how much you've been promised, how much you've accumulated, how much you've submitted and is receivable in cash. Your income account will have RMB and RECEIPT units so you can easily see how much of each composed your compensation. Does this work? This does work! When I was thinking this through in the beginning, I was put off by proliferating accounts: I felt like I should just have one account for receipts (it's just one value, after all), one account for income, one cheater account for receivables, and views on everything else (the fancy footwork with the receipts) should be a function of how I write my reports. You make a persuasive argument with the above, though, and I'll give this some serious thought. Multiple sub-accounts of Assets:Receipts does sound like a good idea. Here's the ugly: my method above requires you to insert two postings to the allowable expenses, instead of one, like in your method. [...] This is what I was messing with in another branch of this thread, talking to John about automating transactions using tags/metadata. That doesn't look like it will work in the short term, but maybe it will in the future, and when it does it will simplify things much as your pre-processing scheme would: add a simple tag to receipt-able transactions, and the automation does the rest. I'm not likely to dive into beancount any time soon (I'm still re-wrapping my head around plain ledger, after an absence), but I do appreciate the thought and effort that went into your reply. (Finally, a disclaimer: this email is not to suggest or help you carry out tax evasion activities; you should probably consult a tax lawyer about how best to treat those gifts. This message merely aims to help solve your counting problem in the context of text-based bookkeeping software.) Lord knows I wish this wasn't necessary. I console myself, as one often does in China, with the thought that everyone else is doing the same thing. Thanks again, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: query metadata in automated transactions?
John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: No, I'd tried that one before. It looks like parenthesis inside any expr clause will cause the parsing error. If there's no expr, the parenthesis is read correctly and things seem to work. In your above suggestion, I got the parsing error at (Receipt. If I take out the first expr, I get the parsing error at (transportation|food|books)/, saying: Error: Missing '/'. Sorry, copy and paste bug, the second expr shouldn't appear. The only way I can get it to work is to have no first expr, use tag instead of has_tag (using has_tag simply produces no results), and have no parenthesis in the expr account clause. The ternary expression works if given as: ((to_amount(tag(Receipt)) 0) ? to_amount(tag(Receipt)) : 1) So really all I'm missing there is the ability to match: = expr amount = to_amount(tag(Receipt)) and expr etc etc etc with parentheses in. Yes, you can't do variable assignments like this at the moment. John Okay, no worries. Thanks for your help! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: 'equity' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the same account
Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com writes:
* Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net [2014-05-19 09:59]:
~ Monthly
; Payee: Tax Dodgers, Inc
Assets:Merchants:5231 7000 RMB ; regular salary
part
Assets:Receivable 3000 RMB ; receipts
Income:Salary
Is this just an example or something you actually use? I'm asking
becaue I don't understand this transactions. Why would
Assets:Receivable go up every month? Also, what it
Assets:Merchants:5231? Surely, if you're paid monthly, your bank
account would go up, and not some Assets:Merchants account.
Yup, that's the real transaction: Merchants is the name of my bank :)
After a few weeks I have 1920.90 RMB in my virtual receipt account, and
I hand them in (but they haven't paid me the reimbursement yet):
05/04 ! Tax Dodgers, Inc
* (Assets:Receipts) = 0 RMB
Assets:Merchants:52311920.90 RMB
Assets:Receivable
When the reimbursement comes through I clear the whole transaction, and
add an aux date.
This whole approach looks a bit complicated and fragile to me. I'll
explain the workflow I use. I'm not sure it's better, but it works
for me:
[...]
I think this workflow follows a logical approach: when you spend
money, you have an asset that can be reimbursed (Assets:Reimbursable).
When you do an expensive report, it becomes a receivable
(Assets:Receivable). And finally, this receivable goes away when you
get paid.
The main difference is, in my case it _isn't_ a reimbursement -- it is
money spent entirely on my own behalf. The receipts are simply an excuse
for the company to give out funds without paying payroll taxes. To me
these receipts are the perfect definition of virtual: no money is
moving between accounts, but at the same time I'd like to know how much
I've got, and how much I still need. The manual balancing is a bit
questionable, but it seems like a fine trade-off.
Now I understand that it might be slightly different if I were a
contractor rather than an employee. In that case, I can see an
argument for booking these expenses a actual Expenses: rather than
Assets:Reimbursable. (After all, they are expenses for your business
regardless of whether you get reimbused or not.)
You could tag with them with your client, and then use
ledger reg Expenses: tag client
to get a list in order to bill them. This would just be income and
not a reimbursement as with a true employee.
I believe this approach should work for most people. Now in your
case, we need to be slightly more creative. It sounds as if got paid
$40 if you had a receipt for $40, even though you only spent $20 (no
need to confirm). I have one idea how to handle this. It's not
currently supported by ledger, but it's a feature that I realized a
few days ago would be useful.
It would be nice if ledger would allow you to run 'reg' or 'bal' on
tags. In order words, you could have:
[...]
I tried (Project is another tag in my files):
$ ledger reg --limit 'tag(Project)'
And it worked correctly. I don't know if that would do what you're
trying to achieve below, with keeping track of nights, but maybe give it
a shot?
I have a use case for this: I track points I receive when I stay in a
hotel. In addition to points, the number of nights stayed count
towards lifetime status. This isn't something I track in ledger
(since it's not really an asset), so I just put it in a comment.
However, it would be nice to do:
ledger reg --account=tag('Nights')
to get the total number of nights I've achieved.
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Re: query metadata in automated transactions?
John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: = expr recpt = tag(Receipt) and expr account =~ /^expenses:(transportation|food|books)/ (Assets:Receipts) ((recpt 0) ? recpt : 1) Only use expr at the beginning. Still getting the same error without the second expr. Just reducing the matching line to this: Try this maybe? = expr has_tag(Receipt) and expr account =~ /^expenses:(transportation|food|books)/ (Assets:Receipts) ((tag(Receipt) 0) ? tag(Receipt) : 1) No, I'd tried that one before. It looks like parenthesis inside any expr clause will cause the parsing error. If there's no expr, the parenthesis is read correctly and things seem to work. In your above suggestion, I got the parsing error at (Receipt. If I take out the first expr, I get the parsing error at (transportation|food|books)/, saying: Error: Missing '/'. The only way I can get it to work is to have no first expr, use tag instead of has_tag (using has_tag simply produces no results), and have no parenthesis in the expr account clause. The ternary expression works if given as: ((to_amount(tag(Receipt)) 0) ? to_amount(tag(Receipt)) : 1) So really all I'm missing there is the ability to match: = expr amount = to_amount(tag(Receipt)) and expr etc etc etc with parentheses in. Sorry to keep on with this -- it seems like a hassle just to get a little convenience. On the other hand, it really does seem to be just the one issue! Thanks, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: query metadata in automated transactions?
John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: = expr recpt = tag(Receipt) and expr account =~ /^expenses:(transportation|food|books)/ (Assets:Receipts) ((recpt 0) ? recpt : 1) Only use expr at the beginning. Still getting the same error without the second expr. Just reducing the matching line to this: = expr recpt = tag(Receipt) Is enough to get the Invalid token parsing error. Tried it with single quotes around Receipt as well... Thanks, Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: 'equity' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the same account
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes: [...] It would be useful to build a list of real-world use cases of virtual postings and see if they can all be solved without or not - make a compelling argument about the need for virtual postings. I have a fairly simple use-case, the system for which I'm putting together right now. I have a consulting contract with a company here in China, and like many local companies they are creative about tax evasion. My fee is paid in part as salary, which is taxed, and in part as spurious reimbursements for expenditures, which aren't taxed. I have to collect official receipts for various things I spend money on, and then present them to the company each month, and they reimburse me. I spent a while thinking about how to represent this. I knew I wanted the reimbursed portion to be a real account, under Assets:Receivable, because that's real value. I also needed to keep track of how much I'd accumulated in receipts, but decided to use a virtual account for that, because it isn't real value moving from one account to another, it's simply a catalyst for movement between two other accounts. So now I've got: ~ Monthly ; Payee: Tax Dodgers, Inc Assets:Merchants:5231 7000 RMB ; regular salary part Assets:Receivable 3000 RMB ; receipts Income:Salary Then I go to dinner and get a receipt: 04/13 * 华堂 Expenses:Food:Restaurant 143.10 RMB (Assets:Receipts) 143.10 RMB Assets:Cash After a few weeks I have 1920.90 RMB in my virtual receipt account, and I hand them in (but they haven't paid me the reimbursement yet): 05/04 ! Tax Dodgers, Inc * (Assets:Receipts) = 0 RMB Assets:Merchants:52311920.90 RMB Assets:Receivable When the reimbursement comes through I clear the whole transaction, and add an aux date. There are several handy ways to report on this, but in practice all I need is: ledger reg --limit 'payee=~/dodgers/' assets:receivable This is nice because the last line comes out bold on the terminal if the reimbursement is still pending. At a glance I can see how much I gave them in receipts, how much they still owe me, and how much in receipts I still need to gather to get my full salary. The ugly bits are the duplicate numbers when I collect a receipt for an expenditure (though I'm working on solving that with automated transactions), and the fact that I end up manually balancing a virtual account against a real account. That feels weird, but does no real harm. Anyway, that's my story! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: query metadata in automated transactions?
John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com writes:
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes:
Is it possible to see transaction metadata when doing matching for automated
transactions?
Yes, if you start the automated transaction directive with = expr , then you
can use any value expression, which includes tag('NAME'), whose value is
whatever the metadata tag as set to.
Okay, I'm nearly there, but not quite. My test data looks like this:
05/15 * Taxi
; Receipt: 40 RMB
Expenses:Transportation 23 RMB
Assets:Cash
05/15 * BHG
; Receipt:
Expenses:Food:Supermarket154 RMB
Assets:Bank
I've got the simple case (just making an automated transaction when the
Receipt tag appears) working, with this:
= tag(Receipt) and /^expenses:(transportation|food|books)/
(Assets:Receipts) 1
My best guess for the complicated case (using the value of the Receipt
tag, when present, instead of the posting value) is this:
= expr recpt = tag(Receipt) and expr account =~
/^expenses:(transportation|food|books)/
(Assets:Receipts)((recpt 0) ? recpt : 1)
But running that gives me this error:
While parsing value expression:
recpt = tag(Receipt
While parsing automated transaction:
= expr recpt = tag(Receipt) and expr account =~
/^expenses:(transportation|food|books)/
Error: Invalid token 'end of input' (wanted ')')
I'm not sure if this is a bug, or if I'm just writing it wrong. Should
it work as I've got it?
Thanks again,
Eric
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Re: query metadata in automated transactions?
John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com writes:
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes:
Is it possible to see transaction metadata when doing matching for automated
transactions?
Yes, if you start the automated transaction directive with = expr , then you
can use any value expression, which includes tag('NAME'), whose value is
whatever the metadata tag as set to.
John
Very cool, thanks for the explanation!
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query metadata in automated transactions?
Is it possible to see transaction metadata when doing matching for automated transactions? For some arbitrary transactions, I want to be able to say I got a receipt for this transaction, and then add a virtual posting for the amount of the transaction, into Assets:Receipts. Ideally, I'd also be able to give an amount for the metadata, and if it's present use that instead of the transaction amount. So if I had this transaction: 05/15 Shoe Store ; Receipt Expenses:Personal:Clothes $50 Assets:Cash I would get an automatic: (Assets:Receipts) $50 But if I had: 05/15 Fancy Restaurant ; Receipt: $240 Expenses:Food:Restaurant $82 Assets:Cash I would get the automatic: (Assets:Receipts) $240 Is that possible? The manual doesn't mention anything like this... Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: can't use this month or this week as period?
Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com writes: * Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net [2014-05-12 11:39]: I think I figured it out. I used a test file with a single transaction and added information from there, and it looks like giving a top-of-file year specification as Y2014 rather than year 2014 messes up the date period parsing. Someone reported the same issue on IRC yesterday and I just filed a bug report today (before reading your email): http://bugs.ledger-cli.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1038 I'll add some of your observations to the bug report. In any case, I can confirm this issue. Cool, thanks! -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
can't use this month or this week as period?
I hope I'm missing something here -- using this year as a period argument to the command line works great, but the same thing gives an empty output for this month or this week. Specifying the month works: [.ledger] $ ledger bal -p may cats 30.00 RMB Expenses:Cats:Food [.ledger] $ ledger bal -p this month cats [.ledger] $ I can't get any other fuzzy date specification to work, with the exception of this year: things like yesterday, this week, etc all return no response. This despite the fact that running them with the ledger period command shows the same output as running a specific date. I'm using ledger on archlinux, with the ledger-git package from the AUR. Looks like that's 3.0.2-20140417 Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: can't use this month or this week as period?
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: this month and last month both work for me with latest build. I think I figured it out. I used a test file with a single transaction and added information from there, and it looks like giving a top-of-file year specification as Y2014 rather than year 2014 messes up the date period parsing. This file reported today correctly: --- year 2014 05/12 * 大茶叶 ; beef bones from the butcher I'm never going to again Expenses:Food:Market 26.00 RMB Assets:Cash --- This one gives no transactions for today, but does for May 12: -- Y2014 05/12 * 大茶叶 ; beef bones from the butcher I'm never going to again Expenses:Food:Market 26.00 RMB Assets:Cash -- Not a disaster, as it looks like year 2014 is the recommended new format. Y2014 is still mentioned in the manual -- maybe it should just be dispensed with? Thanks, Eric On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: I hope I'm missing something here -- using this year as a period argument to the command line works great, but the same thing gives an empty output for this month or this week. Specifying the month works: [.ledger] $ ledger bal -p may cats 30.00 RMB Expenses:Cats:Food [.ledger] $ ledger bal -p this month cats [.ledger] $ I can't get any other fuzzy date specification to work, with the exception of this year: things like yesterday, this week, etc all return no response. This despite the fact that running them with the ledger period command shows the same output as running a specific date. I'm using ledger on archlinux, with the ledger-git package from the AUR. Looks like that's 3.0.2-20140417 Thanks! Eric -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to start emacs-ledger
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: The first thing to do is to download version 3 of ledger. Ledger mode doesn't support 2.6 I found the elisp file naming situation a little weird -- I assume ldg-new.el is going to get named ledger.el at some point? As it is, several invocations seem necessary to get the mode loaded: (add-to-list 'load-path /path/to/ledger/lisp) (load-library ldg-new) (require 'ledger) Is this right? (The new ledger-mode is *much* nicer than the old on, BTW) E -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How to start emacs-ledger
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: renaming is a good question. There are some still using ledger.el. Setting it up is covered in the ledger-mode.pdf available in the distribution (may have to make it from ledger-mode.text this is what is in my emacs initializatio file: (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name ~/source/ledger-devel/lisp/)) (load ldg-new) Thanks! That's simpler. my ledger file has ; -*- ledger -*- this at the beginning of each file. On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: The first thing to do is to download version 3 of ledger. Ledger mode doesn't support 2.6 I found the elisp file naming situation a little weird -- I assume ldg-new.el is going to get named ledger.el at some point? As it is, several invocations seem necessary to get the mode loaded: (add-to-list 'load-path /path/to/ledger/lisp) (load-library ldg-new) (require 'ledger) Is this right? (The new ledger-mode is *much* nicer than the old on, BTW) E -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ enderw88.wordpress.com -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Print drops information (was: RESTful web service API to Ledger)
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:51:12 -0700, John Wiegley jwieg...@gmail.com wrote: ... You can manipulate the data structures in Python, but you'd have to write the whole file back out with a print. However, this drops information. At the moment this is no way to perform an information-preserving transformation, since that has never been a feature of Ledger. I am slightly stunned as I have always seen print as a way to, for example, re-order a file. In fact, from the 2.6 manual: The `print' command prints out ledger entries in a textual format that can be parsed by Ledger. They will be properly formatted, and output in the most economic form possible. The print command also takes a list of optional regexps, which will cause only those transactions which match in some way to be printed. The `print' command can be a handy way to clean up a ledger file whose formatting has gotten out of hand. So when did it start dropping information and why? What information does it drop? Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry
Re: Print drops information (was: RESTful web service API to Ledger)
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:42:18 -0700, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Eric e...@deptj.eu wrote: So when did it start dropping information and why? What information does it drop? Print has never preserved comments that appear outside of transactions. Nor does it preserve file level commands Reasonable, and more or less what I expected someone to say. Also only implied by the 2.6 doc, not actually stated. Thanx for clearing that up. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry
Re: best way to slurp bank records?
On Tue, Oct 02 2012, Russell Adams wrote: I was too using a personal perl script, doing the mapping from a table. But I tried the 'i' of icsv2ledger, and felt in love with this 'i'. On contrary, rubycsv and CSV2ledger does not (yet?) implement this 'interactiveness'. Also CSV2ledger is not unicode compliant, and I am not living in an ASCII world :-). It was the interactiveness that was the key feature for me as well. I came from using MS Money, and so was used to it automatically suggesting payees and accounts from the string supplied by the bank, so I wanted something similar when I processed my download from the bank. Interactive sounds like a nice feature! I hadn't tried that. Normally I import hundreds of records... So my focus isn't on one at a time data entry, I want bulk and standardized records. I'm keen on John's new emacs mode that's letting me query my files for items to clear / update (ie: my queue in my workflow). I can now see one line per transaction, and hit enter on them to jump to the right file. I realized, with no small embarrassment, that I don't really need an external tool, since I use emacs for maintaining my ledger files, and for everything else. In the course of writing some elisp functions to consume bank records I noticed the new version of ledger-mode, and am considering using it -- do you have any pointers or things to watch out for? I noticed strings in there that still point to directories on John's computer :) E
Re: best way to slurp bank records?
On Tue, Sep 25 2012, Peter Ross wrote: On 25 September 2012 08:19, thierry wrote: icsv2ledger, from Quentin Stafford-Fraser https://github.com/quentinsf/icsv2ledger - code does not look to be unicode compliant - can not rename payee You can rename the payee now. It also has the advantage that it remembers the renaming of payee (and account), so that if you have the exact same payee in the future it automatically suggests your renaming. It also has the advantage that it does tab completion on account names and payees, so that you can type just a few letters for the payee and press tab to get complete payee name. I personally use this tool (and contributed the rename payee code) and for me it works how I want. Thanks for all the responses! Given that I've really only got the one format to handle, and that I can see what icsv2ledger is doing in terms of writing ledger entries from Python, I'll probably just skip the intermediary CSV step and go straight to ledger. Thanks again, Eric
best way to slurp bank records?
I've got some text files from my Chinese banks formatted according to their own system. I'm planning on just using Python to slurp the file in, but I'll need to write it out to ledger format. What's the best way of doing that? I didn't see anything in the /python or /contrib folders that look like ledger writers. Should I just use a string template? Given that I'm conversant in python and bash, and not likely to be learning any C/C++ anytime soon (though I can copy-and-paste with the best of them), what's my best option for writing a ledger file from python/bash data? Thanks! Eric
escape @ in ledger3.texi
Unless I've got something wrong here, there's an unescaped @ symbol in the ledger3.texi file that prevents the creation of the info file. It's line 1338: ledger --code-as-payee -P reg ^Expenses @School @School should be escaped with an additional @. Thanks! Eric
Re: org mode
Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com writes: Eric, thank you very much. Would you mind if I used the explanation below and portions of your tutorial in the official documentation? by all means! -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.90.1 + No Gnus v0.18
Re: dependencies on Ubuntu Oneiric
On Thu, Oct 20 2011, John Wiegley wrote: acprep: INFO: Found a Boost library: /usr/lib/libboost_regex.so.1.46.1 But right after that, using the ledger executable in the source folder (cloned from git) still gives me the above error. Is there some sort of cleaning or resetting process I can do? Can you run ldd ledger? And check the modification timestamp on that Ledger binary? Okay, I wasn't building a new ledger at all -- the binary was from June. I have no idea what went wrong there: I noticed many of the configure-related files in the build directory were owned by root, so perhaps that was hanging things up. acprep update (even with the --debug option) wasn't producing any particular errors, and it wasn't obvious that a new binary actually wasn't being built. Anyway I trashed the directory and re-cloned from git, and all is working well now. Sorry for the noise. Eric
dependencies on Ubuntu Oneiric
I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric), and am getting unmet dependency problems I'm not sure how to resolve: --8---cut here---start-8--- ./acprep dependencies acprep: INFO: Invoking primary phase: dependencies acprep: INFO: Executing phase: dependencies acprep: INFO: Installing Ledger's build dependencies ... acprep: INFO: Looks like you are using APT on Ubuntu Hardy acprep: INFO: Executing: sudo apt-get install build-essential libtool autoconf automake autopoint zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev python-dev cvs gettext libgmp3-dev libmpfr-dev libedit-dev texinfo lcov sloccount bjam libboost-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-iostreams-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package bjam is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: libboost1.46-dev E: Package 'bjam' has no installation candidate acprep: ERROR: Execution failed: sudo apt-get install build-essential libtool autoconf automake autopoint zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev python-dev cvs gettext libgmp3-dev libmpfr-dev libedit-dev texinfo lcov sloccount bjam libboost-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-iostreams-dev --8---cut here---end---8--- (Note that acprep seems to think I'm still using Hardy.) I've got libboost1.46-dev installed, and looking at it with apt-get it says it both conflicts with and replaces bjam; the description says it provides the auxiliary tools bjam (and others). Running ./acprep update, it complains that it can't find the boost libraries, though among the attempted directories is: acprep: INFO: Looking for Boost in /usr/lib... That's where the boost libraries are, but it can't seem to find them. The lib files are: libboost_iostreams.so.1.46.1 libboost_serialization.so.1.46.1 libboost_wserialization.so.1.46.1 It's possible to run make and make install, but invoking ledger gets me: ledger: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_iostreams.so.1.42.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I've tried running acprep with --debug, and with --boost-home, but it doesn't tell me anything more than that it can't find the libraries. Presumably it's still looking for the older version of the libs for some reason, can I tell it to use 1.46.1 somehow? Thanks! Eric
Re: dependencies on Ubuntu Oneiric
On Wed, Oct 19 2011, thierry wrote: I installed Ubuntu Oneiric this weekend. I just had to sudo aptitude install git-core autoconf libtool gettext libmpfr-dev libgmp3-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost- regex-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-iostreams-dev texinfo zlib1g- dev libbz2-dev libedit-dev libboost-test-dev git clone git://github.com/jwiegley/ledger.git cd ledger ./acprep opt update Thanks for this, I was indeed missing some of those libraries, not sure why. However after running ./acprep opt update (no errors this time), I still get the error: libboost_iostreams.so.1.42.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Even using the ledger executable in the source directory, before running make install. Also, there is no package called bjam… Thanks again, Eric and it worked! Thierry PS : just remove bjam On 18 oct, 08:48, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric), and am getting unmet dependency problems I'm not sure how to resolve: --8---cut here---start-8--- ./acprep dependencies acprep: INFO: Invoking primary phase: dependencies acprep: INFO: Executing phase: dependencies acprep: INFO: Installing Ledger's build dependencies ... acprep: INFO: Looks like you are using APT on Ubuntu Hardy acprep: INFO: Executing: sudo apt-get install build-essential libtool autoconf automake autopoint zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev python-dev cvs gettext libgmp3-dev libmpfr-dev libedit-dev texinfo lcov sloccount bjam libboost-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-iostreams-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package bjam is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: libboost1.46-dev E: Package 'bjam' has no installation candidate acprep: ERROR: Execution failed: sudo apt-get install build-essential libtool autoconf automake autopoint zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev python-dev cvs gettext libgmp3-dev libmpfr-dev libedit-dev texinfo lcov sloccount bjam libboost-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-iostreams-dev --8---cut here---end---8--- (Note that acprep seems to think I'm still using Hardy.) I've got libboost1.46-dev installed, and looking at it with apt-get it says it both conflicts with and replaces bjam; the description says it provides the auxiliary tools bjam (and others). Running ./acprep update, it complains that it can't find the boost libraries, though among the attempted directories is: acprep: INFO: Looking for Boost in /usr/lib... That's where the boost libraries are, but it can't seem to find them. The lib files are: libboost_iostreams.so.1.46.1 libboost_serialization.so.1.46.1 libboost_wserialization.so.1.46.1 It's possible to run make and make install, but invoking ledger gets me: ledger: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_iostreams.so.1.42.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I've tried running acprep with --debug, and with --boost-home, but it doesn't tell me anything more than that it can't find the libraries. Presumably it's still looking for the older version of the libs for some reason, can I tell it to use 1.46.1 somehow? Thanks! Eric
Re: dependencies on Ubuntu Oneiric
On Wed, Oct 19 2011, John Wiegley wrote: Eric Abrahamsen eric-5ibekglo59aik5deombc7kxock334...@public.gmane.org writes: libboost_iostreams.so.1.42.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Why is Oneiric using 1.42, instead of 1.46 or 1.47? It isn't! 1.46 is installed, it appears to be ledger that's looking for 1.42 and not finding it. Probably I'm just missing a step in the build process. Now, ./acprep update finds the right libraries: acprep: INFO: Found a Boost library: /usr/lib/libboost_regex.so.1.46.1 But right after that, using the ledger executable in the source folder (cloned from git) still gives me the above error. Is there some sort of cleaning or resetting process I can do? Thanks, Eric Also, there is no package called bjam… You don't need it from 1.46 onward. John
ledger.el, highlighting of account names w/spaces
I'm using the git ledger 3.0, and notice that account names with spaces in them are not highlighted properly. I'm quite sure single spaces are allowed in account names, and it troubles my little mind when they are not highlighted properly. I suspect the following font-lock statement: #+begin_src lisp (defvar ledger-font-lock-keywords '((\\( \\| \\|^\\)\\(;.*\\) 2 font-lock-comment-face) (^[0-9]+[-/.=][-/.=0-9]+\\s-+\\(([^)]+)\\s-+\\)?\\([^*].+?\\)\\(\\( ;\\| ;\\|$\\)\\) 2 bold) ;;(^[0-9]+[-/.=][-/.=0-9]+\\s-+\\(([^)]+)\\s-+\\)?\\([*].+?\\)\\(\\( ;\\| ;\\|$\\)\\) ;; 2 font-lock-type-face) (^\\s-+\\([*]\\s-*\\)?\\(\\([[(]\\)?[^*: ]+?:[^]); ]+?\\([])]\\)?\\)\\(\\| \\|$\\) 2 font-lock-keyword-face) (^\\([~=].+\\) 1 font-lock-function-name-face) (^\\([A-Za-z]+ .+\\) 1 font-lock-function-name-face)) Expressions to highlight in Ledger mode.) #+end_src In particular, the font-lock-keyword-face part. After staring at the regexp, however, I can't tell where the whitespace counter should be inserted. Can someone fix it? Sorry for the petty confusion, but it does make a difference… Thank
Re: a little hand-holding…
On Thu, Apr 07 2011, Darald Bantel wrote: [...] Some ideas - - Write it as a deferred spending account 2 levels deep. 1. expense - salaries etc liability - - insufficient funds account (original payment date (what you wanted to do!)) 2. expense - - insufficient funds account liability - - personal account (with date (charge interest or whatever you want and bill fully) 3. expense - personal account liability - salaries Finally understood what you were telling me here… This works perfectly! Thank you. E
a little hand-holding…
I'm getting used to the more complex usages of Ledger, and have a little scenario that I hope someone will help walk me through. I'm running Ledger 3. I have a small company with a few employees, we've just gotten started. I'm a terrible boss -- I was unable to pay salaries for the first couple of months. To make it up I paid part of the salaries out of my own personal account. Later our revenue stream kicked in, and I paid myself back for the salaries. I'd like records that show: 1. The dates that the employees should have been paid. 2. The dates that I actually paid them out of my account (say at the end of month two) 3. The date that money came into the company bank account, and I transferred it to my own account (say in the middle of month three), ideally this line would also somehow indicate why I was paying myself. So something like: 2011/01/01 Should have paid Bob and Alice Expenses:Salaries:Bob 5000 RMB Expenses:Salaries:Alice 5000 RMB Assets:Accounts:Eric's Personal Account ; or company account with some sort of note? or debt? 2011/02/01 Should have paid Bob and Alice Expenses:Salaries:Bob 5000 RMB Expenses:Salaries:Alice 5000 RMB ; same question here 2011/02/20 Actually paid Bob and Alice Liabilities:Debt ; I'm just making this up ?? 2011/03/05 Made money back Assets:Bank:Company Account 2 HKD Income:Projects:Project X 2011/03/06 Paid myself back Assets:Bank:Company Account 2 HKD Debt? 2 RMB There's also a HKD -- RMB conversion, just to make things more fun. So just working out this much I'm thinking this will have something to do with liabilities, but I would very much appreciate it if someone could show me how this sort of thing should be done! Thanks, Eric
Re: a little hand-holding…
On Wed, Apr 06 2011, Michael Norrish wrote: On 6/04/11 6:24 PM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: I'm getting used to the more complex usages of Ledger, and have a little scenario that I hope someone will help walk me through. I'm running Ledger 3. I have a small company with a few employees, we've just gotten started. I'm a terrible boss -- I was unable to pay salaries for the first couple of months. To make it up I paid part of the salaries out of my own personal account. Later our revenue stream kicked in, and I paid myself back for the salaries. [...] How about 2011/01/01: Expenses:Salaries:Bob 5000 RMB Liabilities:Deferred Salaries 2011/02/01: Expenses:Salaries:Bob 5000 RMB Liabilities:Deferred Salaries 2011/02/20: Assets:Bank Account 1 RMB Liabilities:Owe Founder 2011/02/20: Liabilities:Deferred Salaries 2 RMB Assets:Bank Account 2011/03/05: Assets:Bank Account 2 HKD Income:Project1 2011/03/06: Liabilities:Owe Founder 1 RMB Assets:Bank Account -500 HKD Thanks for the quick and helpful answer! I like the usage of Liabilities, that definitely seems right. I guess I was originally wondering if there was something I should be doing with effective dates, because doesn't the above make it look like money is actually changing places on January and February first? Or am I misreading this? E
Re: a little hand-holding…
On Wed, Apr 06 2011, Peter Ross wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 06 2011, Michael Norrish wrote: On 6/04/11 6:24 PM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: I'm getting used to the more complex usages of Ledger, and have a little scenario that I hope someone will help walk me through. I'm running Ledger 3. I have a small company with a few employees, we've just gotten started. I'm a terrible boss -- I was unable to pay salaries for the first couple of months. To make it up I paid part of the salaries out of my own personal account. Later our revenue stream kicked in, and I paid myself back for the salaries. [...] How about 2011/01/01: Expenses:Salaries:Bob 5000 RMB Liabilities:Deferred Salaries 2011/02/01: Expenses:Salaries:Bob 5000 RMB Liabilities:Deferred Salaries 2011/02/20: Assets:Bank Account 1 RMB Liabilities:Owe Founder 2011/02/20: Liabilities:Deferred Salaries 2 RMB Assets:Bank Account 2011/03/05: Assets:Bank Account 2 HKD Income:Project1 2011/03/06: Liabilities:Owe Founder 1 RMB Assets:Bank Account -500 HKD Thanks for the quick and helpful answer! I like the usage of Liabilities, that definitely seems right. I guess I was originally wondering if there was something I should be doing with effective dates, because doesn't the above make it look like money is actually changing places on January and February first? Or am I misreading this? If I understand correctly Jan 1 you paid your employees from your personal bank account. No, that was part of the problem -- no one got paid anything until February 20 (they are patient people), at which point I gave them two months' salary. I did want a solution that somehow both indicated when they were *supposed* to get paid, and then when they *actually* got paid. If the repayment to myself could be somehow tied to the actual payments to them, that would be nice, but I don't see how that would happen. So I guess my second question (the first was answered by using a Liability) is how to indicate this date disparity between supposed to and did… You represent this by adding 2011/01/01: Expenses:Salaries:Bob 5000 RMB Liabilities:Deferred Salaries because on Jan 1 Bob was paid 5000 RMB and the money for that payment came from a loan which has to be repaid. Then at some future date you have money in your company account, so you can discharge that liability and you record that in your ledger so. 2011/03/01: Assets:Bank -5000 RMB Liabilities:Deferred Salaries here you pay yourself back the 5000 RMB you owe. If you are doing things in multiple currencies, I suggest reading https://github.com/jwiegley/ledger/wiki/Multiple-currencies where after my accountant reported that my profit and loss didn't match the change in my balance sheet, I had to learn how to properly account for currency fluctuations. The key point is that you have an income stream which is the profit/loss you make from currency fluctuations from when you book an expense to when you actually pay the expense. This will come in very handy, thank you.
Re: Handling tithe and taxes
On Wed, Jul 28 2010, Peter Ross wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:48 AM, spiffytech spiffyt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm unclear on how I should record tithe and taxes when I get paid. Neither are paid yet, so I don't want to put them in Expenses. This really applied to any sort of setting money aside scenario, but tithe and taxes are the boat I'm in right now. I've thought of a couple ways to handle this, but neither is satisfactory. Can anyone suggest a better solution? Am I missing something obvious (I'm new to both double-entry and rigorous personal accounting)? Or am I just being to picky about what my journal looks like? You are trying to do cash based accounting, I find it much easier to do accrual based accounting. This is something I've been wondering about for a while, thanks for explaining these different approaches so thoroughly! Now if you could just do the same for college loan accounting... E From http://www.allbusiness.com/accounting-reporting/methods-standards-cash/1308-1.html Cash-based accounting recognizes income when money is received. Accrual-based accounting recognizes income when goods are shipped or services are rendered. Under the cash method, an expense is recognized when it's paid. Under the accrual method, an expense is recognized when the business is obligated to pay it. Thus for accrual you recognize the expense of tax and tithe the instant you receive your paycheck, but as you've yet to actually pay it you add it as a liability, giving you the following transaction (assuming 10% tax and 5% tithe) 2010/01/31 Salary Assets:Bank $1000 Income:Paycheck -$1000 Expenses:Tax $100 Liabilities:Tax -$100 Expenses:Tithe $50 Liabilities:Tithe -$50 Or as an automated transaction. = /^Income:Paycheck/ Liabilities:Taxes0.1 Expenses:Taxes -0.1 Liabilities:Tithe0.05 Expenses:Tithe -0.05 2010/01/31 Salary Assets:Bank $1000 Income:Paycheck Thus at any instant you can now determine how much tax you've actually paid in cash to date (expense minus liability), how much expense you would have to pay today (liability) and how much you've meant to have paid as of today (expense). So hopefully you can see the accrual system allows you to look at your position in any number of ways, while doing the cash based system is actually much more difficult. Hope that helps, Pete
Re: Question about actual vs effective dates
* Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com 2010-07-07 18:58 * Simon Michael si...@joyful.com [2010-07-07 08:31]: I thought of identifying them by which is earliest! I don't think that works either. Consider cashing a check: your bank might show the transaction when you give them the check but it might take a few days for the check to clear. I don't know if this is actually the case in the US but we had a similar case in Austria until recently: when you received a bank transacation, it would show up on your account as a transaction but it would take a few days for the money to actually be on your account (i.e. the booking date is earlier than the value date). People found this really confusing and spent the money they didn't yet have, leading to overdraft charges, so recently they changed the rules - the transacation will only show up in your bank account when the money has fully cleared (i.e. booking date and value date are now the same). But you might still put it in your own records (i.e. Ledger) when you know about it, and then date it to match your bank statement when you see that (paper or online). My (British) Debit Card account shows transactions only after the details reach the bank, but they have an effect as soon as they are authorised, so that I am given different figures for balance and available funds. I do not try to record this, but I can't work out which date should be labelled effective if I did. My French bank statement shows both Date Opération (The real date that a debit or credit is made) and Date de Valeur (Date at which the bank considers the debit or credit is valid i.e used for calculation of interest and charges). It may or may not be obvious that the statement entry for a charge made by the bank should show different dates for these! I might myself consider that the transaction was made on yet a third date! Clear as mud then :) Eric
Re: Best practice for managing ledger data?
I keep my ledger files in a directory that is backed up, although I've been tempted to put them into git or Dropbox. I have a file for each month, plus one for my budget, my planned purchases (future transactions) and one for expected income (future rebates, etc). Each month file has an !include of the previous, with the first month file ! including the budget/planned purchases/expected income. I wrap it all up with a symlink file to the current month, and a edit is using VIM. I have also written some web based charts, one set using open flash charts, the other using jquery and flot. Anyone interested in seeing a live copy can contact me in #ledger, and the source for both are at github under my account: http://github.com/bettse/ ~Eric On Jun 22, 4:38 pm, Felipe Magno de Almeida felipe.m.alme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Leandro Henrique Oliveira Fernandes leandro...@gmail.com wrote: I use emacs, unison (sync) and rsync.net. The last is very interest paid service. Unison does not do control version but it can save backup history that is enough for me. I am thinking in using (emacs + unison + rsync ) on maemo OS (smartphone N900). But I generate my ledger file by hand using ledger-mode in emacs. I am interest to know what other people are doing with those perl and python scripts. It would be nice if there were some HOWTO and php/python source-code for setting up a HTTP server(apache) for entering data on ledger file and getting reports. And it would be *really* cool if it were integrated with gnuplot for generating on-the-fly graphs. Regards, -- Felipe Magno de Almeida
Re: choosing currency for display with -V option
On Sep 24, 8:48 pm, John Wiegley jwieg...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 24, 2009, at 8:29 AM, eric wrote: where x and y have been used to obfuscate a little... My problem is the last line of output where the sum of the previous running total (1433.13) and the last entry (1010.90) does not add up to 2466.11 (should be 2444.03). I can try to extract and obfuscate the relevant entries in the ledger file if need be. This is another issue which has been remedied in the current source code. You see, -V reports the total market value _at each date_. This means that everything won't add up without the addition of special price change entries, which is what the current code will now do. John Ah ha. Okay, I need to upgrade! Thanks.
choosing currency for display with -V option
Hello, for one of my ledger files, I have entries in two different currencies. I also have a number of non-currency items (shares). When I use the -V option to see the current value of the assets in this ledger, using a specific prices database file, ledger outputs all the entries in one of the two currencies, but not necessarily in the one I want the output reported in! Can somebody point me to the right place in the manual (or anywhere else) that would tell me how to tell ledger to report in a specific currency? Or some way to tell it to not use a particular currency? I am running ledger 2.6.2 on Debian testing/unstable. Thanks, eric PS - I tried posting this via my newsreader but was told that I did not have permission to post to this group. Is this the normal behaviour for google groups?
