Re: [LegacyUG] problem with my legacy database

2014-11-15 Thread Ron Taylor
Cindy,Navigate on the Family tab to where you have the person showing as the 
father and as one of the children (his own child).  Right-click on him as a 
child.  Click Unlink from parents.

 On Saturday, November 15, 2014 1:15 AM, Brett McL Robinson 
b...@vodafone.co.nz wrote:


   Hi Cindy

 I can' see a reply to your question so far, so here are my thoughts:

 1    If you can, identify the next generation where names and relationship are 
correct, and work back from there. Decide which spot you want your existing 
confused individual to end up in. Check each parent/child relationship and 
change those to the wrong spot (unlink then link parents/children).

 2    From what you describe you probably have an individual (or perhaps a 
couple) either missing, or one individual with the details collected from two 
individuals (parent and child). It may help to create a temporary individual 
named something useful (eg John the father) to get the linkages right before 
you then add in all the names/dated/places/facts/events etc, or perhaps delete 
the temporary individual if not needed.

 I find, when faced with a confusion in my database, it helps me to revert to 
paper and sketch the outline of what I want to end up with, in this case 
particularly noting the names and IDs for the surrounding next generations 
(that are correct) so then I have the extent of the problem defined. I then 
tick them off  adding IDs as I work through the correction process.

  Cheers, Brett
B McL Robinson, Hamilton, New Zealand On 11/11/2014 4:13 a.m., 
hofsea...@aol.com wrote:

 Please help.   I just recently started using Legacy. I've been using PAF for 
years and understand the matching and margining process.  From about 2009 I've 
been putting my data from my years or research on Ancestry trees that I've 
created but I realize now I don't like the way their connections say they're 
the source. Plus, I have not added nor do I plan to upload all the documents 
I've acquired through the years. Not to mention I hate the way Ancestry changed 
it's search.   Anyway, Two of my lines are the same surname so I've always kept 
them separate that is until I combined the two in Legacy. while merging I must 
have accidently said a son was the father as in my Legacy program the son is 
now identified as the father and also as the son. Their RIN is the same so I 
can't merge the two. Is their an easy way to correct this? or do I just have to 
remove him from my file and the names associated with him?   Thanks for any 
help anyone can give me.   Cindy Hofmeister hofsea...@aol.com 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Event Role List

2014-11-15 Thread Ron Taylor
I have the same question.  Thanks for writing it up.Ron Taylor

 On Saturday, November 15, 2014 8:36 AM, Goodwin Genealogy 
goodwingeneal...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does Legacy have a master list for ROLES under a EVENT or do we have to create 
a new role for each event?

I have entered several different events and shared them and each time I have 
created a new role, such as Father, Mother, Pallbearer, Sister-in-Law, etc. 
However, when I enter different type of a new event and go to share it, I again 
have to add these same roles for that event too.

Shouldn't Legacy have a MASTER LIST for different ROLES?
If there is one, where do I find it?

Thanks

Ron
Ottawa, Canada





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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Event Role List

2014-11-15 Thread Ron Taylor
It would be fairly straight forward.  A table of roles with links to the Event 
Definitions table such that each role would be related to the particular event 
type.  There could be duplicate roles in the table if a specific role was used 
in multiple events.  Or the roles could be un-connected from the event types 
and allow the user to decide how and when a role is linked.  A master table for 
roles can not possibly be any more complex than trying to have a separate role 
for every individual connected to a shared event.  This is the same logic for 
having master lists of locations, sources, surnames, etc.  A relational 
database is designed to minimize duplicate entries and standardize how 
information is connected.  The idea that other programs haven't developed a 
Roles table does not mean that no one should do it.  Or maybe we have to wait 
for others to do it first so it is acceptable.  Locations handled the way they 
were in PAF was unweidly.  A master list simplifies things.

 On Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:18 AM, Denise Moss-Fritch 
d.mossfri...@comcast.net wrote:


 Ron,

While I am very new to Legacy, the software seems to be consistent with others 
of which I am familiar (specifically Genbox and RootsMagic) where there is a 
list of roles per event, but not roles across all events.

In Legacy, if you select View  Master Lists  Event Definitions and select 
from the list an event to edit (for example, the 1921 Canadian Census) you will 
see two tabs ('Event Sentences' and 'Roles for those Sharing this Event'). It 
is on the second tab that you can 'Add Roles' for that specific event. The 
roles you add will then be available for all uses of that event. Please note 
that when adding a role, Legacy allows you to specific sentences for that role.

Best,

Denise Moss-Fritch

-Original Message-
From: Goodwin Genealogy [mailto:goodwingeneal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 7:36 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Event Role List

Does Legacy have a master list for ROLES under a EVENT or do we have to create 
a new role for each event?

I have entered several different events and shared them and each time I have 
created a new role, such as Father, Mother, Pallbearer, Sister-in-Law, etc. 
However, when I enter different type of a new event and go to share it, I again 
have to add these same roles for that event too.

Shouldn't Legacy have a MASTER LIST for different ROLES?
If there is one, where do I find it?

Thanks

Ron
Ottawa, Canada




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Pictures - free webinar by Geoff Rasmussen now online, PLUS 4 terrific guest hosts!

2014-11-14 Thread Ron Taylor
Many pictures are being posted to Family Search Family Tree.  Please illustrate 
how to download a picture from FSFT to a Legacy gallery.  Even better, can all 
pictures for a given individual be downloaded.
Can Legacy gallery multimedia be uploaded to FSFT?  How?

 On Friday, November 14, 2014 3:57 PM, Jenny M Benson 
ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:


 On 14/11/2014 22:38, Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
 The recording of today's webinar, Legacy and Pictures, is now available
 to view for free at www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com
 http://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=235.

The best tip of the whole webinar came right at the end:  create web
pages in Legacy and transfer them to your tablet so you can view all
your information at any time.  Brilliant!  I wish I'd thought of that.

I have, and use, Families but I think having the web pages will be a
real bonus.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

2014-11-10 Thread Ron Taylor
Michele,
I think I've submitted this before.

1) A Save when there are changes should function as it does currently including 
change to Modified date.
2) A Save when no changes have been made should be considered a cancel without 
changing the Modified date.


3) A Cancel when there are changes should have an optional question Click Yes 
to discard changes, click No to return to edit.  If changes are discarded, the 
Modified date should not be changed.
4) A Cancel when no changes have been made should function as it does currently 
without a change to Modified date.

Two tricky problems with the Modified date.
1) When exporting Legacy data to a new Legacy database, the Modified date is 
changed in the exported data file.  Likewise when importing a Legacy database, 
the Modified dates in the imported data are changed.
2) When merging records, if information in the Notes is edited, replaced, or 
appended...those changes are immediate.  There is no cancel to discard those 
changes even if the records are not merged.


On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:20 AM, Michele/Support 
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:



It depends on whether you click CANCEL or you click SAVE.  Click cancel and the 
date does not change.  Click save and it does.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

From:Steve Pick [mailto:st...@trycom.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:05 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

Thanks Michelle. Don't think I have ever looked at this. However, I am not sure 
I like it. I just clicked in the marriage event of one at random to look at the 
data. Never changed anything but it says the data was modified as of the time I 
looked. This doesn't seem very good idea. If I had modified any of the data 
fine,.. but I didn't.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

2014-11-10 Thread Ron Taylor
There may be a third tricky place for Modified date.
3) When importing data from Family Search using LegacyFS, is the Modified date 
set consistently.  Likewise the Added date if it is a new record being added to 
the Legacy database.


On Monday, November 10, 2014 6:52 AM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:



Michele,
I think I've submitted this before.

1) A Save when there are changes should function as it does currently including 
change to Modified date.
2) A Save when no changes have been made should be considered a cancel without 
changing the Modified date.


3) A Cancel when there are changes should have an optional question Click Yes 
to discard changes, click No to return to edit.  If changes are discarded, the 
Modified date should not be changed.
4) A Cancel when no changes have been made should function as it does currently 
without a change to Modified date.

Two tricky problems with the Modified date.
1) When exporting Legacy data to a new Legacy database, the Modified date is 
changed in the exported data file.  Likewise when importing a Legacy database, 
the Modified dates in the imported data are changed.
2) When merging records, if information in the Notes is edited, replaced, or 
appended...those changes are immediate.  There is no cancel to discard those 
changes even if the records are not merged.


On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:20 AM, Michele/Support 
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:



It depends on whether you click CANCEL or you click SAVE.  Click cancel and the 
date does not change.  Click save and it does.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

From:Steve Pick [mailto:st...@trycom.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:05 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date Last Edited in Legacy 8.0.0.454

Thanks Michelle. Don't think I have ever looked at this. However, I am not sure 
I like it. I just clicked in the marriage event of one at random to look at the 
data. Never changed anything but it says the data was modified as of the time I 
looked. This doesn't seem very good idea. If I had modified any of the data 
fine,.. but I didn't.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating a mtDNA LIST of ancestors

2014-11-04 Thread Ron Taylor
Look at LtoolsDeluxeAdvanced TaggingMitoDNA

It will set the tags on the carriers of a given mtDNA or Y-DNA.  Then back to 
Legacy and produce whatever reports you want based on the tag.  Be sure to 
uncheck Include husbands... and Include wives... to get just the blood line 
for mtDNA.  For Y-DNA uncheck Include daughters and Include spouses.  Both 
routines utilize the child status to try to rule out adopted lineages.  I am 
not certain if the Relationship to Parent status fields are also utilized in 
the filter.

I have been a coordinator for DNA projects for many years and I use these 
Ltools processes often to help determine who would be good candidates for DNA 
testing.


On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:55 PM, ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk 
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:



Jessica,

I'm afraid that I didn't work on ordering the female line, indeed I'm not at 
all sure that it can be done from within Legacy.

Maybe a date or something could be added and sort done in Excel or equivalent, 
but quite frankly I have not thought this through.

To be honest the technique was developed following a request to find Y-DNA 
lines and whilst doing this I realised that it could be adapted for direct 
mtDNA.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

Jessica Morgan jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:


Thank you. This will give me at least a list of the right people, but I need an 
ordered Descendant report that shows the relationships to each other, birth, 
death, and marriage dates with spouse names.

I suppose if I export the gedcom file of these tagged it will give me a file to 
work with and create the report. I prefer to not export a gedcom and do it that 
way though. This is a very complicated way to get a simple report.

Jessica


Jessica Morgan
Sr Engineering
Technologist, Black Stone Minerals
Chair, SPE GCS
Petro-Tech Study Group
**
GedMatch kits: A064089 (SMK), A276959 (JRK), A608610 (TJ), A798429 (Jo), 
A817318 (JRKM), M399320 (JKM), M918651 (MM), several phasing kits as well
FTDNA kits: B12555 (SMK), B12524 (JMM), B13031 (JKM), 368036 (CJ)
Ancestry.com: jrkmorgan - all trees private
Hometown Cotton Valley, Louisiana. Ratcliff/Lockey
and Allen/Morgan decent. Researching Allen, Bandy, Basinger, Bethune, Beshea,
Cruthirds, Kaylor, Lockey, Morgan, McGarity, Ratcliff, Striplin, Teague,
Umphries, Urquhart, Wilkins - Current generations Louisiana, Arkansas areas;
Migratory from Alabama, North Carolina


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Jessica,

Please see http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/Y-DNA_Search.php

Although this was written and tested for Legacy
V7.5, I see no reason why it will not work in V8.0. Select include siblings from
the options.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Jessica Morgan
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 6:09 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Creating a mtDNA LIST of
ancestors

I need to create a list of people in my database ascending from my
daughter, that would carry the same mtDNA as she does. So the maternal line from
my daughter, to me, to my mother, to her mother, etc. as far back as I can
go.

I need to include siblings that would carry this mtDNA, as well as their
spouses.

I want a list, such as a descendant report, NOT a chart. So using Legacy
Charting is out. I've looked at the various report options, and tagging
mechanisms, and still can't get anything to output what I am looking for.

Can anyone offer any help?



Jessica Morgan
Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone
Minerals
Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study
Group
**
GedMatch
kits: A064089 (SMK), A276959 (JRK), A608610 (TJ), A798429 (Jo), A817318 (JRKM),
M399320 (JKM), M918651 (MM), several phasing kits as well
FTDNA kits:
B12555 (SMK), B12524 (JMM), B13031 (JKM), 368036 (CJ)
Ancestry.com:
jrkmorgan - all trees private

Hometown Cotton Valley, Louisiana.
Ratcliff/Lockey and Allen/Morgan decent. Researching Allen, Bandy, Basinger,
Bethune, Beshea, Cruthirds, Kaylor, Lockey, Morgan, McGarity, Ratcliff,
Striplin, Teague, Umphries, Urquhart, Wilkins - Current generations Louisiana,
Arkansas areas; Migratory from Alabama, North Carolina




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Re: [LegacyUG] Document Genetic Matches

2014-10-21 Thread Ron Taylor
I track DNA participants in my Legacy database.  What I have found useful is to 
create master sources for each testing company like: Ancestry DNA 
Participant; FTDNA Participant; SMGF Participant; etc.  Then I cite the 
appropriate DNA master source for each individual that has been tested.  Once 
all participants have the DNA master sources linked, then I use Show List for 
those master sources and set Tag1.  Next I set Tag2 for all descendants of a 
given ancestor.  Finally, I search for everyone that has Tag1 and Tag2.  Those 
are the descendants that share DNA with the common ancestor.

If I want to show a chart of how all the DNA participants are descended from 
the common ancestor, I use Tag1 to build a Focus Group consisting of every 
participant and his ancestry.  Then use the SearchFindMiscellaneousFocus 
Group to find all the ancestors of all the participants.  Tag3 the results.  
Now those with Tag2 and Tag3 are the lines you want for the chart of DNA 
descendants.


On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:58 PM, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net wrote:



I am attempting to document a genetically proven ancestral
lineage in Legacy. I have a match with a seventh cousin once
removed through a most recent common ancestor(MRCA), a sixth
great-grandfather. I think that I would like to set up a
customized event/fact to document this and then share this
event/fact with each of the ancestors in the line. Has
anyone set up a customized event/fact to do this?

The role for the two individuals who provided the samples
would be donor and the sixth great-grandfather would be
MRCA. The people in between these two also needs a role
and of course there needs to be some sentence structure
work.

Any good ideas would be appreciated.
Bobby





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Re: [LegacyUG] Where did my printer go?

2014-10-20 Thread Ron Taylor
I'm guessing that your printer may be USB connected.  There are known problems 
with USB printers and Windows.  You might try disconnecting the printer, delete 
it from the list of printers that Windows has configured, then plug it in again 
and allow it to re-connect.  Report back if that fixes it for you.


On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:38 PM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:



On 20 Oct 2014 20:38, Jae wrote:

 When I try to print, I get a pop-up that says I have not defined a printer.
 (Been using the same one for a few years).  When I click on Print Preview it
 shows it will print to my correct printer. Looked for a place to set up the
 printer, can't find one. Went to tech support. It tells me to click on File
 and select Set up printer. I don't find that choice when I click on file, 
 just
 choices related to my file. I just downloaded the newest update if that makes 
 a
 difference..

But, is it defined in Windows as THE Default Printer?

--
Regards,
Mike Fry (Jhb)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Use Of Periods In Abbreviations

2014-10-17 Thread Ron Taylor
There are people with a letter only as a middle name where the letter is not an 
abbreviation.  When an initial is an abbreviation, it should be followed by a 
period.  At this time, none of the genealogy systems have a standardized 
convention to indicate a letter only name which is not an abbreviation.  Such a 
convention should be developed to distinguish these single letter names from 
the abbreviated initials.  Just turning off the alert is not the fix but 
instead complicates the issue further because without the period, it is unknown 
whether the letter is a single letter name or an abbreviation for something 
else.


On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:55 PM, Jerry bearjerca...@gmail.com wrote:



Thank you David and Cathy.  Since Legacy has the long and short place name 
fields, I do actually use the postal codes for the short fields, but for the 
long fields,  I always use the complete name (for example) Detroit, Wayne Co, 
Michigan, United States.  I always use the Co for county, simply for my users' 
benefit on our website.  I realize that all genealogists know the second field 
would be for the county when used in a four-division standard place name.  
Thanks for the suggestions and the place to turn off that particular item about 
the use of the periods.

Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org


On 10/17/2014 10:37 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Hi Jerry,

Where and whether periods are used is determined by which
  convention you follow. Choose one and stick to it.

To change the criteria for the Potential Problem alerts there are
  3 ways to get to the same place.

From an alert Shift + right click
From the Tools Ribbon - Potential Problems
From the Reports Ribbon - Other Reports - Potential Problems

Tick or untick the checkboxes etc to suit yourself.

Cathy

Jerry wrote:


Can some of you professional genealogists tell me why or if it
is
recommended to continue to use periods after abbreviations,
especially
with middle names where only the initial is known?  It seems
that in
this computer age, we could safely omit those periods.  It won't
cause
any concerns for search engines, right? Is there a way to turn
off the
suggestion in Legacy 8 so as not to be reminded if periods are
not used
in abbreviations?   I'm not speaking of place names - I realize
those
names should be completely spelled out for accuracy (ie, don't
use USA,
MI, Mich, etc). Thanks,  Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

2014-10-16 Thread Ron Taylor
It is not advisable to have your live file in Dropbox or Google Drive or any of 
the other cloud based storage systems.  What you can do reliably is to place 
the zipped backup files in the cloud drive and then restore the file as needed 
on another computer from the cloud storage.  Using the live file on a cloud 
device requires a method to insure that the file has been sync'ed completely 
before accessing it.  With a zip file, it will not open unless it is intact so 
a partial zip file should not open.  Side benefit is that the zipped files will 
be smaller than the live database and the other associated files that Legacy 
uses.  I agree with other comments that the problem is not with differences 
between Windows XP, Vista, 7, and 8.  I regularly use my Legacy data on all 
those Windows versions without any problems and move the database by placing 
the zip backup files in Google Drive.


On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:53 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi Lavern,
Your problem may be that you are not giving it enough time to sync. I
hope you have your XP computer well protected since you are using it online.
However, I'm not clear about your process.
Bob thinks you have your working file only in the Dropbox and that may
be so.
But you said: I make entries on my laptop (win 8.1) by selecting
the icon on my desktop, entering Legacy, then making
updates. Then I save the file to Dropbox.
Since Legacy saves changes automatically, saving the file is not usually
a step unless you are saving it in some new place.

Where is your family file on your Win 8.1 computer? Is it in a Dropbox
folder or not?I read you as saying you saved a copy to the Dropbox - or
maybe the backup file.

If it's the backup file in Dropbox, on the other computer you have to
restore the backup.
If it's the actual file you either have to make sure you are opening the
copy that is in the Dropbox OR copy it to your Legacy Data folder on the
other computer.

Either way you have to make sure you are opening the copy of your file
that you want on the XP computer and not just one of the same name saved
in a different folder.

Cathy
 Bob Austen mailto:rgaus...@telus.net
 Thursday, 16 October 2014 1:36 AM

 Hi Lavern,

 It sounds like your problem could be with Dropbox - that is, there is
 no issue with Legacy, Win XP, or Win8.1.

 I use Dropbox.  It can take some time for the files to sync from
 Dropbox to the laptop - depending on the size of your file,
 connections speed, it could be a few minutes to many minutes.  My
 computer setup is the reverse, my laptop is on XP and is very slow.
 My file can take well over 30 minutes to sync.  So make sure the
 icon says that the folders are up to date.

 It the file has been updated and they still don't match, then check to
 see that you have only the one file on Dropbox and that the laptop is
 working with the same file.

 It sounds like you have your working file on Dropbox.  Remember that
 Dropbox is not a multiuser system.  If you have Legacy open on both
 computers they will each save their own copy of the file and they will
 not be in sync.  So, again, check your Dropbox folder, if there is
 only one file, make sure that it has been updated on the laptop before
 opening Legacy.  Have Legacy open on only one computer at a time.

 Hope this helps.

 Bob

 *From:*Lavern Hall [mailto:lavernh...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:02 AM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

 Hello all,

 I hope you will be able to help me with this problem.

 I have a new laptop with window 8.1 and I have my

 old computer operating on windows XP. I have

 the latest version  if Legacy 7.5 installed on both, but

 I cannot get them to sync. Here's what happens:

 I make entries on my laptop (win 8.1) by selecting

 the icon on my desktop, entering Legacy, then making

 updates. Then I save the file to Dropbox.

 When I go to check if the updates have been made

 on my computer (win XP), the Dropbox icon shows

 that everything is in sync; however when I enter the

 Legacy file itself, there are no updates recorded!

 It doesn't matter if I enter Legacy by clicking

 on the Dropbox icon and going to the file in the

 directory, or if I click on the Legacy icon and the

 program opens; I still receive an error message,

 Error opening database. Would you like to

 Try It Again? I select Yesand then (fortunately)

 the program opens.

 What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that 8.1 and

 XP are not compatible?

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Lavern Hall




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

2014-10-16 Thread Ron Taylor
Mike will probably answer this also.  The last message from Lavern said

Now it has C:DocumentsandSettings\user\
MyDocuments\Dropbox\lavernhallfamily\
2014-10-16 3:26 33PM\lavernhallfamily.fdb

This means that the fdb file is being accessed from inside the zip backup file 
which is in the Dropbox.  You will have problems with that.  Like Mike said, 
you should use Restore Family File inside of Legacy to unzip the backup data 
files and place them into the correct location.  Later when you backup again, 
you can point the backup zip files at the Dropbox.  It is just the restore that 
you are missing.  As Mike said, don't use the Windows unzip program but use the 
restore function inside of Legacy.



On Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:39 PM, Lavern Hall lavernh...@gmail.com wrote:



​Thanks Mike, I tried Legacy Restore on XP
computer and that also worked also. :-)

One other question​ please:  on the toolbar,
I clicked on File to see what family file name
appeared as my last accessed family file.
Usually it is C:\Legacy\Data\lavernhallfamily.fdb

Now it has C:DocumentsandSettings\user\
MyDocuments\Dropbox\lavernhallfamily\
2014-10-16 3:26 33PM\lavernhallfamily.fdb

Is this ok?  Thanks.

Lavern Hall





On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 16 Oct 2014 23:56, Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:

 I wish you would use a larger type.  On my machine it comes out almost
 too small to read - I can with a magnifying glass.

What are you using to read the messages with. Try typing Ctrl-+

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line Male Descendants list

2014-10-10 Thread Ron Taylor
The Advanced Tagging option in Ltools will find and tag both the Y-DNA 
carriers and mtDNA carriers without tagging the spouses or non-blood lineages 
like adopted.


On Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:45 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:



DNA - carrier's only



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Jessica Morgan jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:

Sherry, which chart(s) would I select in Legacy Charting for carriers only 
options?


Jessica


Jessica Morgan




On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

Legacy Charting has several DNA charts for Male or Female, with carriers only 
option.  Would that work?


Tagging the descendants includes females and spouses.


The Miscellaneous tab in the Search window has an option for the direct line 
ancestors with no parents based on a specific individual or an option for all 
linked individuals with no parents for the entire file. Then you'd have to 
decide which line you want the descendants of.





Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Jessica Morgan jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:

So for my reunion I would like to have a report that goes from my first 
person, Henry Lockey, down to the most direct line male descendant. I'm 
working on DNA testing, and I need a Y chromosome tester. I want to make sure 
I get the right person, that will go the furthest back. So how do I 
accomplish this?


I tried tagging all descendants of Henry Lockey, then searching by tag 6 and 
male, but I'm not certain that gave me what I wanted.


I'd like same for maternal line.


Thoughts on how to accomplish this?




Jessica Morgan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Can FG, TC, and FG files be safely deleted?

2014-10-10 Thread Ron Taylor
A part of your question seems to indicate that you are not saving the zip 
backup files that Legacy makes but instead you are trying to copy all the 
pieces of a Legacy database for your backups.  The Legacy backup process will 
automatically gather all the pieces into one zip file for data and one for 
multimedia.  There is no need to decide which ones to save or delete.  Just 
save as many of the zipped backup files as you wish.  Typically, I save the 
last 3.  Some put their zip backup files directly on a cloud storage or an 
external drive.  Whatever you do, remember that a backup is not a backup unless 
you can restore from it.  Learn how to restore so that skill will be useful if 
it is ever needed.



On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:21 PM, Jim Terry/Support 
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Jerry,

There are several ancillary files that may show in the data folder where
the family file (.FDB) is saved. They do not contain any family tree
information. If you delete the ancillary files, Legacy will simply recreate
them. These files include but are not resistricted to:

.CB= Clipboard information  settings file (older versions of Legacy)
.CBH = Clipboard header file (older versions of Legacy)
.FSD = Legacy FamilySearch Database
.FG= Focus Group file
.IGI = IGI Search results file
.LDB = Record-Locking Info. (temp. file made when .FDB opens  deleted when
it closes properly)
.NC = Source clipboard
.PPL = Potential Problems List
.Rc3 = Calculated Relationships
.REL.CAL = Relationship Calculator file
.RGD = Research Guidance file
.TC = Clipboard files (To-do, source, etc.)
.TC0-9 = Clipboard files (older versions)
.TCH = Clipboard files (older versions)

The ancillary files cannot be opened by the user.  If you try, you will get
a message that you need go to the Internet for a program to open it or look
on your computer for a program to open it.  If you could see inside them
you would not find any genealogical information.

Jim
Legacy Family Tree
Technical Supoort


 Original Message 
 From: Jerry bearjerca...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:22 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Can FG, TC, and FG files be safely deleted?

 Can someone in the user group please tell me if I can safely delete FG,
 NC, and TC files?   I'm trying to get rid of all not needed backups,
 etc., but I am not sure what role these files played in relation to the
 regular .fdb database files.  In other words, is the FG, NC TC file
 needed for the CURRENT .fdb file?  Thanks,  Jerry in Michigan USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Independent Cities issue

2014-09-28 Thread Ron Taylor
The problem is that the County Verifier and GeoDatabase were developed by two 
different programmers/companies and they were never coordinated to produce 
equal results as is evident in the independent cities.  Also, GeoDatabase is 
based on the current location whereas County Verifier is trying to define the 
location for the date involved.  I look forward to the day when a specified 
longitude and latitude can display the location name based on date and language.


On Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:54 PM, Bob Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote:



Hi Margaret,

If I enter the name just as you show (missing comma?) it does not present a 
problem.

Danville, (Independent City) Virginiano issue
Danville, (Independent City) Virginia, USA no issue
Danville (Independent City), Virginia, USA   no issue

Legacy's Geo Location Database shows the name as follows:

Danville, Danville (city), Virginia, USA
Danville, Danville (city), Virginia, United States

but neither are recognized by the county checker.

Entering it as you presented is not an issue however 'Virginia' is not 
recognized as a State - may still be a work around.

Bob


From:Margaret Gagliardi [mailto:megsge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:59 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Independent Cities issue

Danville, (Independent City) Virginia is one of my locations for a group of 
families I am working on. It keeps giving me an error that it is not a county 
in Virginia, but other than having to turn off the checking tool, is there a 
way to have it accept Danville as an independent city? Virginia has several 
towns like Danville and I would like to know the proper way to enter them, so 
the program will accept them.

Thanks
Margaret




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Re: [LegacyUG] Repair issues 8.0

2014-09-16 Thread Ron Taylor
I have seen these messages for many databases upgraded to version 8.  I suspect 
that they indicate errors in the file which earlier versions were not 
detecting.  Similar to the fix for nulls that shows just before the steps in 
the Check/Repair routine.  As the program matures, so also do the checks for 
problems.


On Monday, September 15, 2014 5:10 PM, Steve Pick st...@trycom.com wrote:



No marriages of any of them. From memory now, I think at least two died in 
childhood.



On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Steve,

Do any of these people actually have ANY marriages? In either copy of
your database? There is not enough information here for us to tell.

Wendy

Steve Pick said the following on 16/09/2014 03:59:

 I have 7.5 and 8.0. Because of issues some months ago with 8 I decided
 my working copy would be 7.5. I monitor news on 8 and because of
 family search connection I use  8 to look there. I just decided to run
 the repair tool on my data base on 8 and find 5 errors.  All of them
 give a RIN number and error message The preferred Marriage has been
 removed. I looked at 7.5 data with 7.5 and none of the people had a
 preferred marriage. I wonder where the error data entered my 8.0 data
 base? Any ideas?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Last Update to 7.5

2014-09-15 Thread Ron Taylor
Mike,
I know you're not serious but for those who continue to ask about 7.5 it is 
peculiar that they don't understand the issue.  Version 7.5 would still 
function with Family Search if Family Search still responded to their old APIs. 
 It's like a person with a transistor radio claiming the radio does not work 
anymore when their favorite radio station stopped broadcasting.  The radio is 
still working but there's no signal to receive.  Should a refund be given to 
the transistor radio owner because the radio station shut down?  Who should 
provide the refund, the radio station or the maker of the hand-held radio?

Personally, I think that the user group conversations need to be separated into 
those still on version 7 and those who have chosen to stay up-to-date.  
Sometimes I get requests to help someone still running Windows 95 or 98.  I ask 
them why are they still running such an old operating system that is no longer 
supported.  When I tell them it is not worth my time to even try to work on the 
old OS, they seem puzzled.  I can't even begin to express how hard it is to 
respond to those still using Legacy version 6 or earlier.  I just say, Please 
update then I might be able to assist you.


On Monday, September 15, 2014 3:51 AM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:



Being a little cheeky here. There has been a 'last' update to 7.5 (build 286).
Only item in it disables the non-working integration with FamilySearch. Since
7.5 no longer does what it originally said it would do on the tin, can I have a
refund please? :-) :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] GEDcom indv. selection using just location

2014-09-13 Thread Ron Taylor
If you have your locations in a standard order in the Master Locations table, 
you can select the locations that contain Denmark, show list and tag them on an 
un-used tag.  If you just want those born in Denmark, do detailed search for 
birth place containing Denmark, options, advanced tagging, and tag them.  Using 
your tag, export to a gedcom or export to a new Legacy file then use it as 
desired.


On Monday, September 8, 2014 3:19 PM, Liz Denis nehalemm...@gmail.com wrote:



I've decided I want to upload my Danish ancestors to ancestry.com.
Problem is that some of these Danish folk are not connected, merely
witnesses, and or just possibly related i.e. unlinked to the main line.
Some are from my barking up the wrong treehowever, I collected quite
some info on some lines.  My question: how do I choose just the Danish
people to put on the gedcom.  My complete tree is quite large and might
take me some time to pick and choose the people.  Kindergarten
instructions please!  Thx



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Re: [LegacyUG] Do you Have a Favorite Detailed Search that you would like to share?

2014-09-03 Thread Ron Taylor
This one's pretty simple but I use it quite often when I don't have the married 
names included in Name List.

Another that is more involved is a saved Focus Group of collaborators with 12 
generations of ancending pedigree for each.  I use SearchMiscellaneousFocus 
GroupCreate List and set Tag1 for those ascending lines.  Then I set Tag2 for 
descendants of an ancestor common to the collaborators (within 12 generations). 
 Finally those with Tag1 and Tag2 are exported to a new database and then a 
nice descendant chart of related collaborators is easy to produce.




On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 11:18 AM, Jim Terry/Support 
jimte...@legacyusers.com wrote:



I am putting together a how-to support page on Detailed Searches. See
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00950 (it's not finished).
Do you Have a favorite detailed search that you would like to share? In
particular I am looking for Detailed Searches that use three Conditions.
Please save your search and send me the .SC0 file (use the Save button at
the bottom of the Detailed Search screen).

Thanks,

Jim Terry
Legacy Family Tree
Technical Support



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Re: [LegacyUG] Focus Group

2014-08-31 Thread Ron Taylor
Focus Groups are very powerful.  Paula basically pointed out that a new 
individual added to the database will automatically be included.  The reason is 
that a Focus Group is not a collection of individuals or a tagged set of 
records.  It is a list of criteria that can be used to find records.  The 
criteria can be edited.  If descendants of a specific individual are in the 
Focus Group criteria and last month there were 3000 of them then you added a 
new child for one of them, today the Focus Group would find 3001 descendants.  
Same would be true for any other combination of criteria used in a Focus Group.

One way that I use Focus Group is to SearchFindMiscellaneousEdit Focus 
GroupLoad then select one of the Focus Groups that I have saved and click OK 
to retrieve individuals that meet the criteria.  An example would be a Focus 
Group that has several people and their ancestors to 10 generations.  I execute 
the Find, then set Tag1 for them.  Next, I set Tag2 for  the descendants of a 
common ancestor.  Finally, I find everyone with Tag1 and Tag2 which means they 
are a descendant of the common ancestor and on the ascending line of those in 
the Focus Group.  I export those to a new Legacy database and use it to produce 
a descendant chart showing how those people are related without all the other 
connections they have in the main database.

Another idea is to have a Focus Group that is customized to find those 
individuals that a particular collaborator is working on and name the Focus 
Group accordingly so it is easy to use.  I'm sure there are lots of other ways 
to productively utilize Focus Groups.
Ron Taylor


On Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:52 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote:



It sounds like your focus group worked, but you forgot to Import (not Open)
the newly created .ged file into a Legacy family file. Yet you already had an
empty family file on your system, with the same name as the Gedcom file. You can
import into an existing family file or a new one. (One normally tests a Gedcom
in a new, empty family file.)

   Ward
From: Pat Hickin
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:12 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Focus Group
  Cathy,

I missed it because I was looking for what I was told
to look for, namely View/Set Focus Group.

However, now I have
another problem.

Per your instructions, at step 3, I chose Edit
Focus Group.


The Focus Group window can be reached from several
locations.
1. From the Export window, I chose GEDCOM File


Produce  file for GEDCOM 5.5.1 Only 
Character Set: UTF-8  Then I clicked
[Step 1] Record Selection,

[Step 2] I chose Selected Records Contained in the Focus Group option, and 
then clicked

[Step 3, per Cathys's instructions] Edit Focus Group 
which took me to the
Focus Group window which had the words

Ancestors (Direct Line, 999 Gen., Mult. Parents) for Pauline
Elizabeth Layman [i.e., ,my, mother's ancestors] highlighted in blue.  I
clicked 

OK 

  [which took me to a window entitled GEDCOM Record Selection
I clicked Close, which took me to a window entitled GEDCOM Export 
I clicked on a button entitled Select File Name and Start EXPORT

which took me to a window called Export GEDCOM

file.
 In the Fie Name box I typed in LAYMAN-Pauline Elizabeth Ancestors
20140830.ged and clicked Save.
This took me
back to the GEDCOM Export Window


plus a smaller
window which said Export Complete[:] Export of GEDCOM file is complete[:]
Indiviuals: 758[;] Families: 344.  I clicked OK.


This took me back to the family screen of my startup family in my
main Legacy database file (PRICKETT-LAYMAN.fdb).

I clicked Open File. and chose
LAYMAN-Pauline Elizabeth
Ancestors 20140830.fdb the type of which to my surprise was labeled Legacy
Genealogy Software and was only 1468kb in size.  However, when the file
was opened, there was NO information on the Family View.  I clicked on View
 Name List.  But there were NO names in the name list!!

So NOW what
have I done wrong???

Thanks
(again)!

Pat








On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Well, this a great little thread, because it made me read all of the Help on 
Focus Groups.  We can have up to 9 Focus Groups (or Focus Group Lists).  I 
hadn't noticed the Save and Load before--perfect!   (I will say there is 
sometimes a disconnect between View / List Focus Group and Edit Focus Group 
in the Help file vs. in the windows.)


I still have one question, though, because I think it's true but I didn't see 
it in the Help description.
If I have a Focus Group defined with the Add an Individual and Ancestors, 
when I add a new Individual to my database that is a new ancestor for the 
person at the root of my Focus Group, will that new Individual (ancestor) 
automatically be part of the Focus Group when I use it to report or export?
I think the answer is yes, because I remember now thinking this is so much 
better than tagging all my daughter's direct line

Re: [LegacyUG] List of individuals with Ohio connections

2014-08-29 Thread Ron Taylor
Rebecca,
It is pretty easy.
1) Clear tag1
2) Master Locations List, sort as needed, highlight all desired locations (hold 
Control key while clicking)
3) Click OptionsShow List then wait until the list of All Individuals who use 
this location is displayed
4) Click Tag Everyone in List with Individual Tag set to 1 then Close and 
Close Master Locations
5) SearchFindDetailed Search for Individual Tag1 Equal to Tagged then click 
Create List
6) Click Print and change List Report Options as desired
7) Click CSV file then click Create to export the data for Excel import
8) Exit Legacy, invoke Excel, import the CSV file

or instead of steps 7 and 8 you can Preview the report and Print it from Legacy
Ron Taylor



On Friday, August 29, 2014 4:32 PM, Rebecca Williams rebecca.w...@live.com 
wrote:




I go to the Ohio Archives nearly every month.  I would like to make a list of 
the people in my database who connected with Ohio at any time.
Is there any way to do that?  I’ve been hunting around in the reports and tried 
an advanced search, but to no avail.  Help?

Rebecca

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre

2014-08-28 Thread Ron Taylor
The only thing I'm aware of in Picture Center is that a PDF file with a picture 
in it can't be linked.  Any PDF file is considered a document and has to be 
linked as such even if it only contains a picture.  This should be fixed but is 
a limitation in current version.


On Saturday, August 9, 2014 3:50 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:



A while back, I asked about those indicators, and I seem to remember support 
saying they don't operate correctly for images linked to source citations.  I 
don't remember if they said it was a bug or if they told me I shouldn't try 
to draw any conclusions. ;)  --Paula



 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:11 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre


Although it doesn't seem to be documented in the Help files, looking in
the Picture Centre at a list of images in a Source Images folder, one
sees a - in the U column against each one which is attached to a Source
and a blank if an image is not attached.

Going through each of my Census Image folders today in order to remove
some images that were unattached when the people concerned were deleted
I noticed 1 image in each of 2 folders which had a + next them!  It
turned out to be the Census entries in 1901 and 1911 for the same
family, but I cannot see anything out of the ordinary in the way I have
used these images or
 the Sources to which they are attached

I've never seen this before and over the years I've used the Picture
Census scores of times to look at images in 35 Census Image folders -
hundreds of images!

Can anyone explain?
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Index View Back up Prompt

2014-08-23 Thread Ron Taylor
This topic apparently has hit a sensitive nerve.  As a help desk person (not 
for Millennia), I must answer questions often.  The first thing is always, 
Have you searched the help files?.  If they have not searched or don't know 
how to search, we urge that as the first action and when needed we instruct on 
how to use the help file.  Second, if they have searched help and not found 
what they needed, we try to show them where the help file is that they need.  
Third, failing to find help even with assistance, we strive to provide a 
solution and then subsequently put that new solution into the help files.  

There is nothing wrong with asking for help and it is usually forthcoming on 
this user group.  But the old saying, Give a man a fish and you feed him for a 
day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. seems appropriate 
here.  The more users that learn how to use help, the fewer times the same 
question will need to be answered.  There actually is a good reason why the 
help files were compiled and posted.  We could properly point many of the 
inquiries to a help file that shows methods for using the help file and 
encourage frequent reviews of it as necessary.  The typical response from a 
newbie is There's a help file?.
Ron Taylor


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:58 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:



The printed manual isn't as comprehensive as the Help file in Legacy.
We also have a lot of into in our Knowledge Base at
Support.LegacyFamilyTree.com (you link to that when you go to the Help
Center on our main website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com)

The printed manual is pretty much limited to a size that's not going
to cost everyone an arm and a leg! If you've noticed many times it
refers you to the Help file in Legacy.

The Help file is frequently updated as needed. It's always my first go-to.

An engineering computer-geek friend of mine said that the Legacy Help
file is the best he's ever seen. He appreciates the detail and ease of
use.

If you have any suggestions to make on how a Help topic could be
better written or the file could be better indexed, *please* send in a
Suggestion Form from our website using your browser or through the
Make a Suggestion link in the Support section of the Legacy Home tab
(same form, just different ways of accessing the website0

Please keep it to one suggestion per form though

As for newbies  we have a Training Video on our website under Training
 View Training Videos (or by clicking on Watch Training Videos in
the Support section of the Legacy Home tab), plus a tutorial in the
Help file (click on Help and you'll find the tutorial in the right
pane), not to mention several excellent training CDs and many Legacy
focused Webinars

And you might look for a Legacy User Group in your area - the list in
on the website under Help Center  User Groups.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Dan danh...@comcast.net wrote:
 I feel compelled to respond to this thread.  I find suggestions that one use
 help – the manual, etc. before posting a  question to this site,  not,
 helpful, especially when they are couched in terms suggesting the individual
 is somehow “plugging up” the list.  I am new to Legacy ( a former TMG user)
 and personally find the help index as well as the on line manual pretty
 unsatisfactory, as was the manuals for TMG.  Personally I think the manual
 should be rewritten so that even a novice genalogist (for instance, one who
 doesn’t know what a source is) can navigate the program.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Maintaining Sequence of Twins/Triplets

2014-08-13 Thread Ron Taylor
If all the children connected to a marriage have birthdates, then the children 
sort could easily be done by birthdate, sibling order, given name.  If the 
children have been manually ordered, the children should stay in the set order. 
 If the order has not been set, then child sort would be like it is in the 
current version (as if order = 0 for all siblings).  This SQL illustrates this 
sort for children of a specific MRIN where all children have a birthdate.  The 
WHERE clause specifies the MRIN of the parents to use.

SELECT tblCR.IDIR, tblIR.BirthSD, tblCR.Order, tblCS.ChildStatus, 
tblIR.GivenName, tblIR.Surname, tblCR.IDMR, tblMR.HusbGivenName, 
tblMR.HusbMarrSurname, tblMR.WifeGivenName, tblMR.WifeSurname
FROM ((tblCR INNER JOIN tblIR ON tblCR.IDIR = tblIR.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblMR ON 
tblCR.IDMR = tblMR.IDMR) INNER JOIN tblCS ON tblCR.IDCS = tblCS.IDCS
WHERE (((tblCR.IDMR)=1))
ORDER BY tblIR.BirthSD, tblCR.Order, tblIR.GivenName;

If any child does not have a birthdate in the database, then the children 
should be sorted by order, given name or the children with birthdates could be 
displayed in date order followed by the children without birthdates.  They 
would need to be manually ordered or the birthdates could be set to Abt dates 
so that a later sort will order them.


When the sort children by birthdate, order, given name or just by order, given 
name is complete, the order numbers can be re-assigned.  The same logic would 
apply in the new tool for sorting all children in the database or a single 
family in Children Settings.


On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:25 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi Sherry,

I suspect that you're not a twin nor a sister to a twin.
I think your usually relates to people who are not closely connected to twins.

I have older twin sisters born only half an hour apart. I've always known who 
the eldest one is - and the order is not the alpha order. There are also a 
number of sets of twins amongst my cousins - and again I know which one is the 
eldest in most cases.

Fortunately I don't global sort very often - probably never again as I don't 
import files these days.
I don't know a way to stop them reverting to alpha order on a global sort.

Cathy

Sherry/Support wrote:
 Is it that critical that the first-born twin be listed first? Usually
 people only consider the date, not the time.

 You could make an Event showing which twin was born first and include
 the time of birth or put it in their Birth Notes.

 It looks like the twins sort in alpha order as a sub-sort. I have
 several sets in my line and when I sort, they're always i
n that order.

 We do have a suggestion listed to be able to include time with the
 date but I don't know if this is something the programmers will be
 able to implement or not. Honestly, this is such a rare request
 You're the second person on the suggestion list.

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:18 AM, MikeFry 
 ​​
 emjay...@gmail.com mailto:emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

     On 13 Aug 2014 15:30, Sherry/Support wrote:

      You can manually sort the children in the Edit Children window
     (right click on a
      child and select Children's Settings.

     Yes! But if the file ever gets sorted again, the sequence gets
     messed up.

     --
     Regards,
     Mike Fry (Jhb)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestral File Number on reports

2014-08-08 Thread Ron Taylor
Look at customize 8.2


On Friday, August 8, 2014 1:20 PM, Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:



I have created a descendant narrative report.
With some individuals, immediately after giving the name, birth and death info 
and before the General notes, an ancestral file number appears:  e.g. 
Ancestral File
Number: 39RD-LT.  

I know that some years ago, perhaps when I was using PAF, I had such a term.  
But the term is now meaningless to me and I want to remove all of them.

But for the life of me, I cannot find that information in my file!  It's not 
with alternate names or bdi info or events or notes or marriage info.  

So where is it so that I can get rid of it!!??

As always, help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Pat

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Search losing links

2014-08-07 Thread Ron Taylor
Paul,
I reported this problem at version 427.  It was supposed to be fixed in 439.  
Upgrade and try it again.  Anyone else have experience with this sequence?


On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:



Thanks, Sherry. Updated to 439 and things seem to be working again. I did have 
to relink the individuals whose links were erased.
 
Paul Gray
 
From:Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: August-07-14 9:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Search losing links
 
You must update to the latest build 8.0.0.439.

FamilySearch changed their site (again!) and previous versions won't work with 
it now.



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Re: [LegacyUG] 7.5 files corrupted in 8.0

2014-08-05 Thread Ron Taylor
Best advice given by Bob Austen.  Run check/repair on your 7.5 file and be sure 
all errors are repaired before moving forward.  Then check a few of the key 
families that you thought were corrupted at version 8.  If they are corrupted 
in 7.5, upgrading to version 8 won't fix that kind of problem.  Last, if the 
7.5 file is clean, open it in version 8 and have it copied and converted to 
version 8 leaving the 7.5 file where it is.  

Check out the newly converted file, especially the key families that you 
checked in 7.5.  Run a check/repair in version 8.  Should be good-to-go now.  I 
have not had any 7.5 databases corrupted by the upgrade.  My main file is 
253,000 individuals and is working great.
Ron Taylor


On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:33 PM, Don Hendershot 
donald.henders...@gmail.com wrote:



It sounds like you most likely opened the wrong file.  Double check your file 
names and dates. 


~DonH


On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Evert van Dijken evert...@gmail.com wrote:


I opened my 7.5 family file (fdb) in version 8 (37000 + individuals) and didn't 
see any problems.
I also restored a backup of this 7.5 family in version 8 and again I didn't 
see any problems.
Of course I couldn't look at all individuals but I did check some direct 
family lines.

Could your 7.5 family file be corrupt before you opened this file in version 8?

Evert




2014-08-05 18:12 GMT+02:00 familyhistoryl...@comcast.net:

I have been busy completing a 1970-page book using Legacy 7.5 and only 
yesterday was able to begin working in 8.0  I opened one of my well-reviewed 
family lines in 8.0 only to find that it is corrupted.  Is this a known 
problem or has it been fixed?  It appears that I have the latest build of 
8.0.0.439.


So far I found that someone born in the 1900s was moved to be a child of the 
original immigrant in the 1700s.


After doing a check/repair, it says that I have marriages messed up with 
husbands and wives swapping places with each other in some cases.  


Sometimes brothers and sisters are listed as married persons.  In at least 
one of those cases, the child died in infancy and never married.


Does anyone know what is going on and how I can fix this without great 
upheaval of 1000s of names?  I don't know how I am to trust any of the 
information in that file at all now.  I have begun making some changes until 
I realized what was happening.  I'm trying to get updates in the computer and 
don't want to work with corrupted files.  Also we have the reunion this 
weekend where I want to promote Legacy.  I cannot in good conscience promote 
something with so many problems.


God bless,
Ellen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Access Database in Legacy

2014-08-04 Thread Ron Taylor
Here's a couple more SQL that you may find useful.  I don't like to have 
Biological as a Relationship-to-Parent-Status so I change them to blank.  
Both of these scripts should work in Ltools or remove the script title and run 
them in Access.  Tweak them for other combinations.  They illustrate how the 
tables are connected.

Change Father Relationship to Blank,UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON 
tblCR.IDCPDad = tblCP.IDCP SET tblCR.IDCPDad = 1 WHERE 
tblCP.CPRelation='Biological'

Change Mother Relationship to Blank,UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON 
tblCR.IDCPMom = tblCP.IDCP SET tblCR.IDCPMom = 1 WHERE 
tblCP.CPRelation='Biological'

Ron Taylor




On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:56 PM, Ken Neundorf kwn...@gmail.com wrote:



The highlighted is what I need to do.
 
Thanks for all the help
 
From:Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:44 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Access Database in Legacy
 
ok, well its a bit confusing here. 
 
You first mention that you want to change the Private to Biological or Blank
 
But then you say its the Father Relationship and Mother Relationship that are 
marked as Private. 
 
These are not the same things. 
 
When you look at the childrens settings (right click in the area where the 
children are listed under the parents in a Family View screen)
That opens the childrens settings screen
 
Each Child can have a different Child Status 
This field is what you could change to Blank or Biological if they are all set 
to Private. 
You dont need access to do that
 
First as always make a backup (and even better make a copy to test on first) 
 
Go to VIEWMaster Lists Child Status. 
Than COMBINE your Private with a one of the other available (or blank) 
This will GLOBALLY change all persons. 
 
 
If when looking at the childrens settings the boxes next to Relationship to 
Father or Relationship to mother are checked (flagged) as Private, then you 
would need to use a SQL query to change them 
 
UPDATE tblCR  SET tblCR.CPDadPrivate = 0 WHERE tblCR.CPDadPrivate = 1
 
Then the same for the mother 
 
UPDATE tblCR  SET tblCR.CPMomPrivate = 0 WHERE tblCR.CPMomPrivate = 1
 
But again, this will change ALL persons. 
 
 
If when Looking at the childrens settings and the drop down list contains 
Private then you can change those the same way as Child Status
 
VIEW Master Lists Child Parent Relationship  then combine or edit your 
available types. 
 
 
 
Hope that helps
 
Jay 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Ken Neundorf kwn...@gmail.com wrote:
There are 68,000 records that need changed. That I am not sure.
 
From:Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:01 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Access Database in Legacy
 
And are you able to segregate the records you want to change somehow?  
 
Like maybe Tagging them with a specific tag? 
 
(So that when you go to update, you only change those specific records) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Ken Neundorf kwn...@gmail.com wrote:
It is the Father and Mother relationship
 
From:Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:44 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Access Database in Legacy
 
Ken, 
 
Also forgot to ask
 
Is it just the 'main' Parent Child' relationship is Private ?
or does each of Father Relationship and Mother Relationship  marked as 
Private 
 
(You can have the main relationship show as anything, and then each parent 
relationship different like Mother Relationship = Biological and Father 
Relationship = Step and have that flagged as private) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Ken Neundorf kwn...@gmail.com wrote:
HI,
 
The legacy tech people told me to write to the email list and see if anyone can 
help me. I am in the process of cleaning up and matching two very large files 
so I can combine. The file that I am cleaning up has 68,000 parent child 
relationships marked as private. I would like to change to  either biological 
or blank to match the file I will be importing into.
 
Is there a way through the access database for doing this as a global change.
 
I have a little knowledge of access but need help finding the right tables to 
use and what changes need made.
 
Thanks for any help.
 
Ken Neundorf
Washington, PA
kwn...@gmail.com
 
 
 



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to compare existing place location Long/Lat with external data

2014-08-02 Thread Ron Taylor
I think the spreadsheet comparison would be a great idea.  Some variance in the 
latitude/longitude could be allowed and then see what shakes out as locations 
not matched followed by some fine tuning as needed.  If you decide to do this, 
let me know.  I may be able to help.  Perhaps we might end up with a first 
draft of the known-to-be-correct locations table and then formulate methods 
for proving each entry based on the number of users that claim a location is 
correctly geo-coded.
Ron Taylor


On Saturday, August 2, 2014 6:53 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:



OK, here is another question on how to handle the Lat/Long of Locations stored 
in Legacy. 

I regularly export my Legacy data in a gedcom to be imported into another 
software program, TNG , which is used to display my information online.

I have a large number of locations that I have fine tuned their Geo-coded 
Long/Lat online in TNG. 

I can export the place name and the long/lat data from the online TNG into a 
spreadsheet. 

What would be the best way to compare that with what is stored in Legacy?

I could probably use LTools and create a csv export (of the Legacy data) which 
then could be converted into a spreadsheet. 

Just wondering if anyone out there has gone down this road. 

Thanks in advance for any help with this. 

Jay 


 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

2014-08-01 Thread Ron Taylor
You could put all the pictures in one folder or put them in any structure of 
folders and sub-folders you wish.  Then run the Relinker.  If the actual file 
names have not changed, the Relinker should be able to find them and fix the 
link to them.  Once you have all media relinked, then you can backup the data 
and media.  Delete the media folders if you don't need the pictures for 
anything else.  Then unzip the backup media file to the C:\ and it will lay 
down the folders and files as they were at the time of the backup.  Only the 
linked files will be in the backup.  So, if you had 10,000 picture files that 
you copied from the Mac to the PC and only 5,000 of them were linked to the 
Reunions file, you should only have 5,000 on the PC when you finish with the 
Relinker, Backup, Delete, and restore.
Ron Taylor


On Friday, August 1, 2014 7:54 PM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:



Ron, thanks for the informed answer.  It makes a little more sense now. You are 
saying I can create a folder, I am assuming in Legacy, in which to place all of 
my media and Legacy will recognize and locate it at the appropriate time.  
Should I place all of the media I have previously linked in there, transferring 
from their location to the new one?  Will I have to relink again after doing so?
 
Thanks again for your response.
 
Donna
 
From:Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:37 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pictures
 
Donna,
You may have been linking to media files that were inside a zipped file which 
is a special kind of folder.  That method was addressed recently by some users 
on this group and it helped to resolve several problems.  The conclusion was to 
not do that.  Always link to media that is not in a compressed folder.  Other 
than that, you can place your media files just about anywhere you wish, link to 
them, and be happy.  I like to put my media files in a root level folder 
because I collaborate with several other researchers.  Some of those 
researchers still use Windows XP while others use Vista, Windows7, and 
Windows8.  With a root level folder like C:\Collaborator1 it is easy for 
collaborator 1 to put whatever media they want in that folder and not be 
concerned with other collaborators messing with their collection.  
Collaborator2 likewise has their own collection folder and so forth.  The 
collaborators can make any sub-folders they need under their
 root level folder.  The Legacy backup of media only puts the media files into 
the backup for the database being backed up.  The only precaution with this 
method is to not use the Gather Media routine as it will move all the media to 
some other location regardless of the various collaborators who collected it 
and kept it separately.  The Gather routine probably does work for a single 
researcher that does not collaborate.
Ron Taylor
 
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:12 PM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I am trying to save a picture of a census record to Legacy 8.  In Legacy 7 my 
folder on the drive I used looked like this:
 
1 Legacy    12/29/2012 3:57 PM  File 
folder
1 Irwin 2014-07-08 1,48.48 PM   7/8/2014 1:48 PM  Compressed (zipped) 
Folder
 
I could click on Legacy and it would open to:
 
1  Pictures 12/29/2012 3:55 PM  File 
folder
 
Which I then could click and it would open to smaller folders and pictures that 
I had stored for my data base.
 
In Legacy 8 I am unable to do that.  There is no Legacy folder, only the name 
folders and media folders.  There is one labeled with a circle and an L in the 
middle with 11,448 KB in it, plus an Microsoft Assess Record-Locking 
Information icon with 0 KB in it.
 
I would before save the picture to my computer, then copy it to the folder with 
Pictures and from there go to the Picture Center and find the picture in the 
Browse slot. 
 
Now I cannot find where to put the picture to load it into Legacy. 
 
I would like someone to help me out.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] SQL Queries Library

2014-08-01 Thread Ron Taylor
Simple place to start would be a Google shared folder.  Each file in the folder 
should be descriptively named and there should be one Index file in the 
folder also that could list all the files and include a short summary of how 
the routine is used and maybe a little about why it was developed.

I have quite a few scripts that I am willing to share also.  They can all be 
loaded into Ltools and run from it.  Handy if someone does not have their own 
copy of Microsoft Access or is unfamiliar with some of the other free database 
tools like LibreOffice or OpenOffice.
Ron Taylor


On Friday, August 1, 2014 7:18 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:



Larry and all, 

I would be willing to help start the files, 
but the actual local master and primary admin rights should probably be 
somewhere more centrally located, 
like an Legacy Wiki page, If they have such a thing. 

Millenia isn' t very current on things like that. 

If anyone has a good suggestion as to where to place the content, let me know. 

In the meantime I will gather my own little list of often useful SQL Queries. 

Thanks


Jay 










. 




On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk 
wrote:

Larry

LTools has a wide selection of SQL routines.

Ron Ferguson

Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone

Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote:


I renamed this to SQL Queries Library.
I  know what SQL Queries are but I do not know how they are used with Legacy 
and if they would have much demand.  Is this something that is appropriate for 
only advanced users?
Jay, if you feel this would be useful maybe you could maintain an online 
library for these as I doubt Millennia would officially sanction  support 
them.
Larry
On Jul 16, 2014 2:24 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote:

Ron, 


Not sure why your emails keep ending up in my spam folder..




Anyway, there is a reason, 
Many years ago I had Dennis at LTools create a process to automatically add 
spouses and parents to my database. 
(see the Create spouses option in LTools)
That worked fine, but as the years have gone by, I realized that the process 
was a bit too much.


I should have limited it to specific descendant lines and not the entire 
database. 
So, I have these parents out there, most all are UnknownM (Surname) + 
UnknownF Unknown that are not really needed, as maybe they are the parents of 
an aunt or cousin. 
I want to 'trim' those from the database. 


But, some of the parents have a second child married into the database, in 
which case I want to keep them 
(in order to preserve the relationships) 
Hence, the search for parents with only one child. 


Your code worked well and provides a list from which I can use to review and 
delete the couple if appropriate.
Which just helps to keep my database relevant and compact. 




I really wish Legacy would have a central page where the various SQL queries 
could be posted for all to share and use. 


Thanks for your help!! 


Jay 


















 










 



On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

Jay,
I'm wondering what prompted you to search for this combination.  What are 
you trying to solve?
Ron Taylor



On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:33 AM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:



This one could be fun.  
1) Clear tag1
2) use LegacySearchFindMiscellaneousLinked individuals with no parents 
then click Clear List before this search and click Create List.  When 
then search results list is displayed, click OptionsAdvanced TaggingTag 
and make changes to tag1.  Click Everyone in Search List.  Now all 
individuals without parents have tag1.
3) Create and save the following query which will be used in step4.  Name it 
qtblMR_parents_eol


SELECT DISTINCT tblCR.IDMR
FROM ((tblCR INNER JOIN tblMR ON tblCR.IDMR=tblMR.IDMR) INNER JOIN tblIR ON 
tblMR.IDIRHusb=tblIR.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblIR AS tblIR_1 ON 
tblMR.IDIRWife=tblIR_1.IDIR
WHERE (((tblCR.IDMR)0) AND ((tblIR.Tag1)0) AND ((tblIR_1.Tag1)0) AND 
((tblMR.IDIRHusb)0) AND ((tblMR.IDIRWife)0));


4) Run this query to find the marriage records to answer your question.


SELECT tblCR.IDMR, Count(tblCR.IDIR) AS Children
FROM qtblMR_parents_eol INNER JOIN tblCR ON qtblMR_parents_eol.IDMR = 
tblCR.IDMR
GROUP BY tblCR.IDMR
HAVING (((Count(tblCR.IDIR))=1))
ORDER BY tblCR.IDMR;


Let me know if this is what you needed.  Note you could tweak the Having 
number of children as desired.
Ron Taylor



On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:33 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:



I would like to create a report of all parents that only have one child 
AND the parents have no father or mother in my database.


If any great sql coders could help me out, that would be great. 


Thanks


Jay 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Children

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Taylor
Submitted...hope it gets implemented.


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:40 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote:



Ron,
I like the idea and think you should submit it. The only addition I would like 
to see is to have a related field for Surety since the number is only as 
reliable as the source as is all data in the file.
Larry
On Jul 30, 2014 6:46 AM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

This is an area that has not been programmed into Legacy (yet).  It would be 
nice if the marriage record had a numberic field to record how many children 
were from the union.  It could default to -1 to indicate that the value was 
never set.  If the number of children is not -1, then the computer could 
tally the actual number in the database and compare it with the expected count 
to produce a Potential Problem alert.  A zero should coincide with This couple 
had no children being checked.  A census shows that there were 7 children with 
4 living but the database only has 3...alert, 4 children are probably missing.  
An obituary shows 5 children but 6 are in the database...alert, more children 
recorded than source indicates.  Many other combinations could be detected but 
the obvious one is the situation described by Brett in this thread.  If the 
Legacy user does not want to use the feature, it would just be left at the 
default and bypassed by
 reports and exports.
Ron Taylor



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:31 AM, Jess jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:



I list them as Morgan Child 1 of 6, 2 of 6, etc.


If there are multiple marriages or parent groups (ie divorce, etc) I put 
Morgan Xx Child 1 of 6. Where XX is the parent that would be most uncertain to 
someone else.


Example:
Ambrose Morgan had 6 children.
2 by Mary
3 by Jane
1 by Sarah


I list them under Ambrose and proper mother group, and they show up as:
Mary's Child 1 of 2 of 6
Mary's Child 2 of 2 of 6
Jane's Child 1 of 3 of 6


If I know sex or any other identifiers I put that too.
I have one family that has two sets of stillborn infants. They are listed as
Twin Set 1 of 2 Child 1
Twin Set 1 of 2 Child 2

Jessica Morgan

On Jul 30, 2014, at 6:40 AM, blrrcn blr...@optonline.net wrote:


I have several families where I know there were other children but don't have 
a name as they died young or I just don't know the name. Depending on the 
circumstances:
If i know the sex, I list them as Son, daughter (last name) or just Child 
(last name) if I don't know the sex.
If there's several children I would name them 3 children. I would also 
include estimated B  D dates.


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Brett McL Robinson
Date:07/30/2014  5:07 AM  (GMT-05:00)
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Children

I have been adding family details and have several families where my source (a 
descendant of one of the families) has merely noted the number of children, 
with no names. I am tempted to ignore the number, but realise that it would be 
useful to note it with the family to help as a check in the future. Is there 
any way to add a number to the family records that will show up in the 
children display?

I tried adding an unknown gender child named Given: 4 children
(Colin+Karen) (for example), and wonder if anyone has tried this or
something like it and can report on its success or limitations. This
child would be over-written when the last child was added.


--
Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson
Tel +64 7 856 6582, 0277 500 714, fax +64 7 856 6582, Skype AB1252
PO Box 1252, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo_code places How to review large numbers for correct placement

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Taylor
Jay,
It looks like you're on the same highway that I've been down.  When you report 
the location from the Master Locations List, include the L column letter so 
we can tell where the geo-code may have originated.  An L means it came from 
the Geo-Database.  A V means it came from the Virtual Earth maps (now called 
Bing maps).  The ? means that Bing maps could not resolve it when it was 
queried.  The blank is supposed to mean that the location has not been looked 
up in any geo-code table yet.  The minus sign means the user told Legacy not to 
geo-code the location.

Then the adventure begins.  You would assume that if a location were resolved 
by a geo-code lookup that it would be the actual location.  As you pointed out, 
that is not always the case.  I too have found locations with Bing maps that 
were in the middle of a lake or out in the ocean.  Some locations that were 
resolved were on another continent.  

One bug that persists in Legacy is the over-ride that happens when a location 
that has already been geo-coded by the geo-database is looked up in Bing maps.  
The L is simply replaced by the V without any interaction with the user.  
And if a location with V is looked up in the geo-database, the V is not 
changed to L.  If more geo-code tables are introduced, this behavior must be 
corrected.

The second thing that really needs to be done is a way to get the geo-code 
tables corrected when they are known to be wrong.  The geo-database appears to 
have this capability but I can't remember when it has ever been used and the 
current version has removed reference to the update possibility.  Bing maps are 
accessed through the internet and I don't know if any protocol exists for 
updating them.

A final bug that probably will never be fixed is the display of the stick pin 
on a location.  If you were to use your own map and stick pins, you would 
logically push the pin into the map with the point of the pin to indicate the 
location.  Look at where the point of the stick pin is compared to where the 
location is on the Legacy maps.  It does not matter how much you zoom.  The 
point is not pointing to the location.

With all of that, there is only one tag field in the Master Locations table.  
It can be used for some advantage but tools are lacking.  When combining files, 
it is a good idea to set all the location tags for the master file, clear the 
tags for the import file, then after finishing your merge, you can check out 
the remaining un-tagged locations to see if any of them could be geo-coded or 
otherwise corrected.  Then with some editing, they might merge with some of the 
tagged locations.  It would be nice if Legacy could highlight the un-tagged 
locations so they would stand out when viewing the list.

As far as geo-coding in bulk, that would be a dream.  But it would be 
interesting if a Master Locations table could be verified against a known to be 
accurate geo-code table and set the tags or verified flags based on exact 
matches.  Then again have some highlighting tools to show those that did not 
match at all or were close but not exact.  

Read elsewhere what I've described about time sensitive location names.  It can 
be done but not in the current version.  And that leaves the location 
modifiers that need attention too.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:23 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:





Has anyone found a way to review large numbers of Place Location Geo-Coded 
placement without having to do one location at a time? 


I have almost 10,000 places and  I am constantly finding Geo -Code errors. 

For example I have two locations in my list 

Alban, South Dakota                      44.436138167   -100.23049167
Alban, Grant, South Dakota             44.618770556   -89.284523056

Yes, these should be merged, but they make a great example here 

Legacy Geo-coded the them as listed above.

The first one, Alban, South Dakota  points to center of the state and has the 
same coordinates that is used by the state generic South Dakota   
44.436141667   -100.23045111

In other words the geo coding did not find the correct place except to place 
the pin at the center of the state, which would be OK IF there was some 
disclaimer or notation somewhere. 


The second one is geo-coded to  Alban, Portage County, WISCONSIN

Why, is Geo coding setting wrong places?? 

(According to Google the coordinates for Alban, South Dakota are 
45.1952395,-96.546404)


With no tool to at least review the places in some sort of batch (like maybe 25 
places on a page each with a small map of the geo-coded place. 

At least then I might have picked up that one of these was pointing to 
wisconsin and not South Dakota. 


One at a time review is just not a viable option. 

 
Anyone have any workable solutions? 

Thanks in advance for any help. 

Jay 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo_code places How to review large numbers for correct placement

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Taylor
Sorry...I forgot one point.  There should be a date in the location record to 
indicate when the geo-code was set for that location.  That way, a current 
location set today can easily be re-evaluated in 10 years as an old location 
that needs to be re-verified.


On , Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:



Jay,
It looks like you're on the same highway that I've been down.  When you report 
the location from the Master Locations List, include the L column letter so 
we can tell where the geo-code may have originated.  An L means it came from 
the Geo-Database.  A V means it came from the Virtual Earth maps (now called 
Bing maps).  The ? means that Bing maps could not resolve it when it was 
queried.  The blank is supposed to mean that the location has not been looked 
up in any geo-code table yet.  The minus sign means the user told Legacy not to 
geo-code the location.

Then the adventure begins.  You would assume that if a location were resolved 
by a geo-code lookup that it would be the actual location.  As you pointed out, 
that is not always the case.  I too have found locations with Bing maps that 
were in the middle of a lake or out in the ocean.  Some locations that were 
resolved were on another continent.  

One bug that persists in Legacy is the over-ride that happens when a location 
that has already been geo-coded by the geo-database is looked up in Bing maps.  
The L is simply replaced by the V without any interaction with the user.  
And if a location with V is looked up in the geo-database, the V is not 
changed to L.  If more geo-code tables are introduced, this behavior must be 
corrected.

The second thing that really needs to be done is a way to get the geo-code 
tables corrected when they are known to be wrong.  The geo-database appears to 
have this capability but I can't remember when it has ever been used and the 
current version has removed reference to the update possibility.  Bing maps are 
accessed through the internet and I don't know if any protocol exists for 
updating them.

A final bug that probably will never be fixed is the display of the stick pin 
on a location.  If you were to use your own map and stick pins, you would 
logically push the pin into the map with the point of the pin to indicate the 
location.  Look at where the point of the stick pin is compared to where the 
location is on the Legacy maps.  It does not matter how much you zoom.  The 
point is not pointing to the location.

With all of that, there is only one tag field in the Master Locations table.  
It can be used for some advantage but tools are lacking.  When combining files, 
it is a good idea to set all the location tags for the master file, clear the 
tags for the import file, then after finishing your merge, you can check out 
the remaining un-tagged locations to see if any of them could be geo-coded or 
otherwise corrected.  Then with some editing, they might merge with some of the 
tagged locations.  It would be nice if Legacy could highlight the un-tagged 
locations so they would stand out when viewing the list.

As far as geo-coding in bulk, that would be a dream.  But it would be 
interesting if a Master Locations table could be verified against a known to be 
accurate geo-code table and set the tags or verified flags based on exact 
matches.  Then again have some highlighting tools to show those that did not 
match at all or were close but not exact.  

Read elsewhere what I've described about time sensitive location names.  It can 
be done but not in the current version.  And that leaves the location 
modifiers that need attention too.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:23 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:





Has anyone found a way to review large numbers of Place Location Geo-Coded 
placement without having to do one location at a time? 


I have almost 10,000 places and  I am constantly finding Geo -Code errors. 

For example I have two locations in my list 

Alban, South Dakota                      44.436138167   -100.23049167
Alban, Grant, South Dakota             44.618770556   -89.284523056

Yes, these should be merged, but they make a great example here 

Legacy Geo-coded the them as listed above.

The first one, Alban, South Dakota  points to center of the state and has the 
same coordinates that is used by the state generic South Dakota   
44.436141667   -100.23045111

In other words the geo coding did not find the correct place except to place 
the pin at the center of the state, which would be OK IF there was some 
disclaimer or notation somewhere. 


The second one is geo-coded to  Alban, Portage County, WISCONSIN

Why, is Geo coding setting wrong places?? 

(According to Google the coordinates for Alban, South Dakota are 
45.1952395,-96.546404)


With no tool to at least review the places in some sort of batch (like maybe 25 
places on a page each with a small map of the geo-coded place. 

At least then I might have

Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Taylor
Donna,
You may have been linking to media files that were inside a zipped file which 
is a special kind of folder.  That method was addressed recently by some users 
on this group and it helped to resolve several problems.  The conclusion was to 
not do that.  Always link to media that is not in a compressed folder.  Other 
than that, you can place your media files just about anywhere you wish, link to 
them, and be happy.  I like to put my media files in a root level folder 
because I collaborate with several other researchers.  Some of those 
researchers still use Windows XP while others use Vista, Windows7, and 
Windows8.  With a root level folder like C:\Collaborator1 it is easy for 
collaborator 1 to put whatever media they want in that folder and not be 
concerned with other collaborators messing with their collection.  
Collaborator2 likewise has their own collection folder and so forth.  The 
collaborators can make any sub-folders they need under their
 root level folder.  The Legacy backup of media only puts the media files into 
the backup for the database being backed up.  The only precaution with this 
method is to not use the Gather Media routine as it will move all the media to 
some other location regardless of the various collaborators who collected it 
and kept it separately.  The Gather routine probably does work for a single 
researcher that does not collaborate.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:12 PM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:



I am trying to save a picture of a census record to Legacy 8.  In Legacy 7 my 
folder on the drive I used looked like this:
 
1 Legacy    12/29/2012 3:57 PM  File 
folder
1 Irwin 2014-07-08 1,48.48 PM   7/8/2014 1:48 PM  Compressed (zipped) 
Folder
 
I could click on Legacy and it would open to:
 
1  Pictures 12/29/2012 3:55 PM  File 
folder
 
Which I then could click and it would open to smaller folders and pictures that 
I had stored for my data base.
 
In Legacy 8 I am unable to do that.  There is no Legacy folder, only the name 
folders and media folders.  There is one labeled with a circle and an L in the 
middle with 11,448 KB in it, plus an Microsoft Assess Record-Locking 
Information icon with 0 KB in it.
 
I would before save the picture to my computer, then copy it to the folder with 
Pictures and from there go to the Picture Center and find the picture in the 
Browse slot. 
 
Now I cannot find where to put the picture to load it into Legacy. 
 
I would like someone to help me out.
 
Donna in Ardmore

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Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problem

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Taylor
Tom,
I just re-read your message about how you back up using a separate programme. 
 You should use the built-in backup of Legacy which will produce 2 zip 
files...one for the data structures and one for linked media files.  Then you 
can use your separate program to store those backups elsewhere if you wish.  
The important thing that you will miss is the ability to Restore a Legacy 
backup data zip file.  The zip file contains more than the fdb file.  The 
Legacy backup gathers all the various pieces of a given database into the data 
zip file and the zip technology compresses that to make it smaller.  A zipped 
file will not open unless it is intact so a corrupted zip file won't work.  
That gives some degree of integrity to the zip file.  The media zip backup is 
un-zipped by regular Windows utilities.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:39 AM, Tom Hampton hampton2...@dodo.com.au 
wrote:



Thanks very much Ron, I’ll give it a go.
 
From:Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2014 11:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problem
 
Tom,
Several people have reported a possible problem with their file after an 
update.  The common recommendation is to download the full standard free 
version and install it over the previous program.  If you have deluxe, the 
installer will find your license and authorize it again.  Then Restore your 
most recent backup.  Hope that works for you.
Ron Taylor
 
On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:14 AM, Tom Hampton hampton2...@dodo.com.au 
wrote:
 
Hi Ron,
Not really sure, but I only bought it about a month ago so it should be the 
latest version.
I back up using a separate programme and onto a separate drive completely.
Thanks
 
From:Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2014 9:03 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problem
 
What version was used to make your most recent backup of your Legacy database?
 
 
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:11 PM, Tom Hampton hampton2...@dodo.com.au wrote:
 
Hello,
I have Legacy 8 Deluxe and have just downloaded the latest update.
It caused my computer to crash and now I cannot open Legacy at all.
It says it is an “unrecognised database format”. Any ideas on how to fix this 
please?
Thanks.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo_code places How to review large numbers for correct placement

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Taylor
This entry is in v7.5 and v8

Winchester, Winchester (City), Virginia, United States





On Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:33 PM, BobsTree2-Gmail bobstr...@gmail.com wrote:



A few questions as I ponder the options ...

1.  If a tool could flag a certain variance from Google, would that help?
2. Why should Google be the standard, assumed correct?
3.  How about a tool that got the Google value and over writes the Legacy 
value, or gives a choice to choose between them?

Bob Hansen

On Jul 31, 2014, at 19:22, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone have any workable solutions?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo_code places How to review large numbers for correct placement

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Taylor
So, instead of every one of us trying to verify every location in our master 
location list...wouldn't it be a good idea if we had a known-to-be-correct 
locations table that might verify a majority of the entries in our individual 
files?  Users like CE Wood could indicate that a location is good or bad and 
over time those locations with the most good votes should rise to the top and 
the ones with the most bad votes should drop.  The ones left in the middle will 
need some serious arbitration.  Zero votes means nobody is working on that 
location.

Later, add the castles, churches, hospitals, cemeteries, etc.

Ron Taylor


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:53 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:




I never use just one mapping source. With Google, one has the ability to move 
the arrow if it, for instance, is not precisely on the right spot, and give you 
the coordinates of the spot to which you moved the cursor.
 
Bing, in Legacy, will do that too, but gives the coordinates in degrees, 
minutes, seconds. Unfortunately, the Legacy converter is not always accurate.
 
Bing maps itself will not allow you to move the cursor and get the coordinates 
for the new pinpoint. Microsoft has told me they don't know why the difference 
between Legacy Bing maps and internet Bing maps. Check, check, recheck.
 
Many sites, such as Find A Grave, require decimal coordinates, and the Legacy 
converter does not always convert correctly. I have double checked the Legacy 
converted decimal coordinates, and often found they did not put the cursor 
correctly.
 
You can always overwrite whatever coordinates you already have found (the 
Legacy converter seems to be precise going from decimal to degrees, just not 
the other way, but be sure to save the original Legacy coordinates somewhere 
until you like how the map looks.
 
Bottom line: if you really want the exact coordinates, you must double, triple, 
and sometimes quadruple check. When I view the map of a church, castle, etc., I 
want to see the church, castle, etc. or its ruins. For a town, I am more 
sanguine.


CE 
 

 From: bobstr...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo_code places How to review large numbers for 
 correct placement
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:32:43 -0400

 A few questions as I ponder the options ...

 1.  If a tool could flag a certain variance from Google, would that help?
 2. Why should Google be the standard, assumed correct?
 3.  How about a tool that got the Google value and over writes the Legacy 
 value, or gives a choice to choose between them?

 Bob Hansen

 On Jul 31, 2014, at 19:22, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote:

  Anyone have any workable solutions?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and Family Group Records ?

2014-07-30 Thread Ron Taylor
John,
If you add the modifiers to the Master Location List and link your individual 
records to those modified locations, they should show in the reports and 
elsewhere.  Look at the examples I gave of Salt Lake City.  Those are actual 
entries in my Master Locations List.
Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:30 AM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:



It seems that adding
prepositions or modifiers at the end of locations and adding them as new entries
to the Master Location List is the best I can do for my database purposes, at
least for now. I eventually want to include a number of Family Group Records as
‘Family Story’ chapters in a book. I will have to convert them to a word
document, and then add the prepositions or modifiers before publishing
it. 
From: Ron Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:22 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and
Family Group Records ?
  There is a field in the tblLR (Master Locations Table) called
Preposition which can be set and used in reports as you described.  There
is also a file C:\...Documents\Legacy Family
Tree\_AppData\Misc\Preposition_English.lst which is used by the Master Locations
List to sort locations.  It does it by removing the words in that file from
the location, putting it on the end of the location name, then sorting the list
so that all locations that are the same will display next to each other and the
preposition tacked onto the end.  That is helpful.  Some of the
entries in that list are not actually prepositions.  In fact,  some of
the entries are multiple words.  I think a better term for them would be
location modifiers instead of prepositions.

What
would be great but would require some extensive re-writing would be to have an
actual database table of location modifiers.  That table could come into
play as a pull down list (similar to Child Status, Event Type, Surname List,
etc.) where you can select the location modifier to be applied to a specific
location field.  That would mean that a location modifier key field be
inserted into every table where a link to the tblLR is used.  The
preposition field that is in tblLR would only be used for reports when the
location modifier is blank.  The main effect that a location modifier table
would have is eliminating multiple instances of the same location name as the
current method allows.  Here is an example of a location in the current
Master Location List that has multiple entries because of
prepositions:

Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, from
Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, near
Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, of
Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, of
Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, probably
Salt
Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah

The
above display is achieved by checking the two boxes at the bottom of Sort
Location List called Remove common prepositions from locations and Remove
leading bracket from bracketed locations and then executing the
sort.
 
Notice
that the words found in the text file Preposition_English.lst were re-positioned
to the end of the location before the sort.  Likewise, the bracketed
locations had the leading bracket removed before the sort but the trailing
bracket was retained so it would display.  In either case, you can click
Edit to see the actual long or short location with the preposition words where
they really are stored in the field.
 
Also,
note that I added probably to the Preposition_English.lst file (as well as a
few other words) so that it would treated like other prepositions.
 
If
there was only one instance of Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah in the Master
Locations Table, as well as all other locations, then it would be much easier to
manage and maintain.  The only thing that would be needed then is a time
sensitive lookup for location.  Or even better, a conversion of any current
location to its time sensitive name.
Ron
Taylor



On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:32 AM,
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
wrote:



Sometimes I know where
ancestors lived but uncertain if they were born in that place. There is an
option which allows you to change the location preposition from ‘in’ to
something else but it only works for the book reports from the publishing
centre. I could mention in the narrative that a person’s place
of birth is not certain, but I would like to request suggestions from other
Legacy users for a way use a preposition or some other way to easily show that a
person was from or lived in a location, which was not necessarily their place of
birth. I would like this for the Family View and Family Group
Records.
Do others find this a problem or am I too neurotic about
accuracy or details?
John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Children

2014-07-30 Thread Ron Taylor
This is an area that has not been programmed into Legacy (yet).  It would be 
nice if the marriage record had a numberic field to record how many children 
were from the union.  It could default to -1 to indicate that the value was 
never set.  If the number of children is not -1, then the computer could 
tally the actual number in the database and compare it with the expected count 
to produce a Potential Problem alert.  A zero should coincide with This couple 
had no children being checked.  A census shows that there were 7 children with 
4 living but the database only has 3...alert, 4 children are probably missing.  
An obituary shows 5 children but 6 are in the database...alert, more children 
recorded than source indicates.  Many other combinations could be detected but 
the obvious one is the situation described by Brett in this thread.  If the 
Legacy user does not want to use the feature, it would just be left at the 
default and bypassed by
 reports and exports.
Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:31 AM, Jess jrkmorg...@gmail.com wrote:



I list them as Morgan Child 1 of 6, 2 of 6, etc.

If there are multiple marriages or parent groups (ie divorce, etc) I put Morgan 
Xx Child 1 of 6. Where XX is the parent that would be most uncertain to someone 
else.

Example:
Ambrose Morgan had 6 children.
2 by Mary
3 by Jane
1 by Sarah

I list them under Ambrose and proper mother group, and they show up as:
Mary's Child 1 of 2 of 6
Mary's Child 2 of 2 of 6
Jane's Child 1 of 3 of 6

If I know sex or any other identifiers I put that too.
I have one family that has two sets of stillborn infants. They are listed as
Twin Set 1 of 2 Child 1
Twin Set 1 of 2 Child 2

Jessica Morgan

On Jul 30, 2014, at 6:40 AM, blrrcn blr...@optonline.net wrote:


I have several families where I know there were other children but don't have a 
name as they died young or I just don't know the name. Depending on the 
circumstances:
If i know the sex, I list them as Son, daughter (last name) or just Child (last 
name) if I don't know the sex.
If there's several children I would name them 3 children. I would also 
include estimated B  D dates.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Brett McL Robinson
Date:07/30/2014  5:07 AM  (GMT-05:00)
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Children
I have been adding family details and have several families where my source (a 
descendant of one of the families) has merely noted the number of children, 
with no names. I am tempted to ignore the number, but realise that it would be 
useful to note it with the family to help as a check in the future. Is there 
any way to add a number to the family records that will show up in the children 
display?

I tried adding an unknown gender child named Given: 4 children
(Colin+Karen) (for example), and wonder if anyone has tried this or
something like it and can report on its success or limitations. This
child would be over-written when the last child was added.


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Tel +64 7 856 6582, 0277 500 714, fax +64 7 856 6582, Skype AB1252
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Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problem

2014-07-30 Thread Ron Taylor
Tom,
Several people have reported a possible problem with their file after an 
update.  The common recommendation is to download the full standard free 
version and install it over the previous program.  If you have deluxe, the 
installer will find your license and authorize it again.  Then Restore your 
most recent backup.  Hope that works for you.
Ron Taylor


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Hi Ron,
Not really sure, but I only bought it about a month ago so it should be the 
latest version.
I back up using a separate programme and onto a separate drive completely.
Thanks
 
From:Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2014 9:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problem
 
What version was used to make your most recent backup of your Legacy database?
 
 
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:11 PM, Tom Hampton hampton2...@dodo.com.au wrote:
 
Hello,
I have Legacy 8 Deluxe and have just downloaded the latest update.
It caused my computer to crash and now I cannot open Legacy at all.
It says it is an “unrecognised database format”. Any ideas on how to fix this 
please?
Thanks.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Reunion to Mac

2014-07-30 Thread Ron Taylor
Marion,
You can go back to Reunion if you wish.  That would be like having a Ferrari in 
the garage and opt to drive the Yugo.  Both might be fun but with different 
outcomes.  If your media files are not excessively scattered on the Mac, then 
copy all of them to an external drive or USB stick and then put them on your 
Windows hard drive.  Import the GEDCOM file, then run Relinker.  I think you'll 
be surprised.
Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:12 AM, marion wimsett 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:



Thank you Ron - sorry your email slipped into the spam box (despite the fact I 
have all LUG replies marked to be accepted!!!).
It looks as though this could be a long and tiring exercise - I will study the 
link in detail next week. At this stage I have no idea where his photos and 
other attachments are so even if I can transfer over with a gedcom I shall have 
to find the various media files as well. I am beginning to wonder whether I may 
have to learn how to use the mac and Reunion!
Thank you for your help.
Marion



On 28 July 2014 22:22, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have converted Reunion files before.  This article gives a lot of information 
from an actual Reunions user.  The conversion involves using a GEDCOM which is 
the only way to move the information to another program like Legacy.  With that 
knowledge, you only need to realize that a GEDCOM does not contain pictures but 
may contain the path name to pictures if any are linked to the data.  Likewise, 
the GEDCOM can contain types of data that need to be mapped to things in the 
target system.  Same is true for any GEDCOM conversion.  Easiest way to find 
out is to try it.  Here's the URL for the article.


http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/olderversions/Articles/gedcom-101.php


Ron Taylor
 



On Sunday, July 27, 2014 11:29 PM, marion wimsett 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:



Thanks Bob - I had a feeling that was the case - have no experience with 
Reunion (or Macs for that matter!) so this will be interesting!!!
Marion



On 28 July 2014 13:04, Bob Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote:

Hi Marion,
A gedcom is a text only file, so photos, as such, do not 'come with the 
gedcom'.  There could be a pointer to the photo, if that is how Reunion 
handles the files.  I have no experience with Reunion. 
Bob

marion wimsett said the following on 27/07/2014 23:45:
 Thanks you Wendy,
 Do the photos come with the gedcom as well?? I have to transfer the
 whole of the file over not just the details.
 Marion


 On 27 July 2014 10:00, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com
 mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

     Hi Marion,

     I expect you will need to export a GEDCOM file from the Reunion
     database, and then import that file into Legacy (File  Import).

     How you physically get the file from the Mac to the PC depends on what
     resources you have there. If you share a Dropbox folder with your
     husband, pop it into that and let it synchronise. Or copy it onto a
     stick (USB drive) and then copy it to the PC. Whatever method, don't
     delete the file from the Mac until you're sure you've got it on
     the PC,
     just to be safe.

     There may be more considerations in data formatting (there are various
     options to select from along the way, but I have no experience with
     Reunion to comment), that others can discuss with you from their
     experiences, so I will leave that for them to cover.

     Hope this helps. :-)

     Kind Regards,
     Wendy


     marion wimsett said the following on 27/07/2014 13:29:
      We have two different trees - mine on Legacy and husband on his
     Mac on
      Reunion.
     
      I am now going to have to transfer his tree over to Legacy. It
     doesn't
      have to be linked to mine at the moment - I can do that later.
     
      My problem is how can I transfer everything from Reunion over to my
      computer (PC) to install on Legacy (especially considering I know
      nothing about Reunion).
     
      If anyone has any ideas or has gone through this I would appreciate
      any help whatsoever.
     
      Thanks,
     
      Marion





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Re: [LegacyUG] Reunion to Mac

2014-07-30 Thread Ron Taylor
Marion,
If you have room on your Windows computer to store all the Mac photos, do that. 
 Once the photos that are linked to the database have been relinked, then 
backup the clean Legacy database and the linked media.  Copy the zip backup 
files somewhere.  Delete all the photos that you brought over from the Mac.  
Restore the Legacy database.  Unzip the Legacy media backup.  You should be 
done with only the pictures that are linked to Legacy.
Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:46 AM, marion wimsett 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:



Ron at this stage I don't have a clue where he filed the media - there are 
literally tens of thousands of different photos on his drives!
On Jul 30, 2014 10:23 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

Marion,
You can go back to Reunion if you wish.  That would be like having a Ferrari 
in the garage and opt to drive the Yugo.  Both might be fun but with different 
outcomes.  If your media files are not excessively scattered on the Mac, then 
copy all of them to an external drive or USB stick and then put them on your 
Windows hard drive.  Import the GEDCOM file, then run Relinker.  I think 
you'll be surprised.
Ron Taylor



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:12 AM, marion wimsett 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:



Thank you Ron - sorry your email slipped into the spam box (despite the fact I 
have all LUG replies marked to be accepted!!!).
It looks as though this could be a long and tiring exercise - I will study the 
link in detail next week. At this stage I have no idea where his photos and 
other attachments are so even if I can transfer over with a gedcom I shall 
have to find the various media files as well. I am beginning to wonder whether 
I may have to learn how to use the mac and Reunion!
Thank you for your help.
Marion



On 28 July 2014 22:22, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have converted Reunion files before.  This article gives a lot of 
information from an actual Reunions user.  The conversion involves using a 
GEDCOM which is the only way to move the information to another program like 
Legacy.  With that knowledge, you only need to realize that a GEDCOM does not 
contain pictures but may contain the path name to pictures if any are linked 
to the data.  Likewise, the GEDCOM can contain types of data that need to be 
mapped to things in the target system.  Same is true for any GEDCOM 
conversion.  Easiest way to find out is to try it.  Here's the URL for the 
article.


http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/olderversions/Articles/gedcom-101.php


Ron Taylor
 



On Sunday, July 27, 2014 11:29 PM, marion wimsett 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:



Thanks Bob - I had a feeling that was the case - have no experience with 
Reunion (or Macs for that matter!) so this will be interesting!!!
Marion



On 28 July 2014 13:04, Bob Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote:

Hi Marion,
A gedcom is a text only file, so photos, as such, do not 'come with the 
gedcom'.  There could be a pointer to the photo, if that is how Reunion 
handles the files.  I have no experience with Reunion. 
Bob

marion wimsett said the following on 27/07/2014 23:45:
 Thanks you Wendy,
 Do the photos come with the gedcom as well?? I have to transfer the
 whole of the file over not just the details.
 Marion


 On 27 July 2014 10:00, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com
 mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

     Hi Marion,

     I expect you will need to export a GEDCOM file from the Reunion
     database, and then import that file into Legacy (File  Import).

     How you physically get the file from the Mac to the PC depends on what
     resources you have there. If you share a Dropbox folder with your
     husband, pop it into that and let it synchronise. Or copy it onto a
     stick (USB drive) and then copy it to the PC. Whatever method, don't
     delete the file from the Mac until you're sure you've got it on
     the PC,
     just to be safe.

     There may be more considerations in data formatting (there are various
     options to select from along the way, but I have no experience with
     Reunion to comment), that others can discuss with you from their
     experiences, so I will leave that for them to cover.

     Hope this helps. :-)

     Kind Regards,
     Wendy


     marion wimsett said the following on 27/07/2014 13:29:
      We have two different trees - mine on Legacy and husband on his
     Mac on
      Reunion.
     
      I am now going to have to transfer his tree over to Legacy. It
     doesn't
      have to be linked to mine at the moment - I can do that later.
     
      My problem is how can I transfer everything from Reunion over to my
      computer (PC) to install on Legacy (especially considering I know
      nothing about Reunion).
     
      If anyone has any ideas or has gone through this I would appreciate
      any help whatsoever.
     
      Thanks,
     
      Marion





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Re: [LegacyUG] Prepositions for locations- Family View and Family Group Records ?

2014-07-29 Thread Ron Taylor
There is a field in the tblLR (Master Locations Table) called Preposition which 
can be set and used in reports as you described.  There is also a file 
C:\...Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\Misc\Preposition_English.lst which 
is used by the Master Locations List to sort locations.  It does it by removing 
the words in that file from the location, putting it on the end of the location 
name, then sorting the list so that all locations that are the same will 
display next to each other and the preposition tacked onto the end.  That is 
helpful.  Some of the entries in that list are not actually prepositions.  In 
fact,  some of the entries are multiple words.  I think a better term for them 
would be location modifiers instead of prepositions.

What would be great but would require some extensive re-writing would be to 
have an actual database table of location modifiers.  That table could come 
into play as a pull down list (similar to Child Status, Event Type, Surname 
List, etc.) where you can select the location modifier to be applied to a 
specific location field.  That would mean that a location modifier key field be 
inserted into every table where a link to the tblLR is used.  The preposition 
field that is in tblLR would only be used for reports when the location 
modifier is blank.  The main effect that a location modifier table would have 
is eliminating multiple instances of the same location name as the current 
method allows.  Here is an example of a location in the current Master Location 
List that has multiple entries because of prepositions:

Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, from
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, near
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, of
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, of
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, probably
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah

The above display is achieved by checking the two boxes at the bottom of Sort 
Location List called Remove common prepositions from locations and Remove 
leading bracket from bracketed locations and then executing the sort.

Notice that the words found in the text file Preposition_English.lst were 
re-positioned to the end of the location before the sort.  Likewise, the 
bracketed locations had the leading bracket removed before the sort but the 
trailing bracket was retained so it would display.  In either case, you can 
click Edit to see the actual long or short location with the preposition 
words where they really are stored in the field.

Also, note that I added probably to the Preposition_English.lst file (as well 
as a few other words) so that it would treated like other prepositions.

If there was only one instance of Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah in the Master 
Locations Table, as well as all other locations, then it would be much easier 
to manage and maintain.  The only thing that would be needed then is a time 
sensitive lookup for location.  Or even better, a conversion of any current 
location to its time sensitive name.
Ron Taylor



On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:32 AM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:



Sometimes I know where
ancestors lived but uncertain if they were born in that place. There is an
option which allows you to change the location preposition from ‘in’ to
something else but it only works for the book reports from the publishing
centre. I could mention in the narrative that a person’s place
of birth is not certain, but I would like to request suggestions from other
Legacy users for a way use a preposition or some other way to easily show that a
person was from or lived in a location, which was not necessarily their place of
birth. I would like this for the Family View and Family Group
Records.
Do others find this a problem or am I too neurotic about
accuracy or details?
John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problem

2014-07-29 Thread Ron Taylor
What version was used to make your most recent backup of your Legacy database?



On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:11 PM, Tom Hampton hampton2...@dodo.com.au wrote:



Hello,
I have Legacy 8 Deluxe and have just downloaded the latest update.
It caused my computer to crash and now I cannot open Legacy at all.
It says it is an “unrecognised database format”. Any ideas on how to fix this 
please?
Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Reunion to Mac

2014-07-28 Thread Ron Taylor
I have converted Reunion files before.  This article gives a lot of information 
from an actual Reunions user.  The conversion involves using a GEDCOM which is 
the only way to move the information to another program like Legacy.  With that 
knowledge, you only need to realize that a GEDCOM does not contain pictures but 
may contain the path name to pictures if any are linked to the data.  Likewise, 
the GEDCOM can contain types of data that need to be mapped to things in the 
target system.  Same is true for any GEDCOM conversion.  Easiest way to find 
out is to try it.  Here's the URL for the article.

http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/olderversions/Articles/gedcom-101.php


Ron Taylor
 


On Sunday, July 27, 2014 11:29 PM, marion wimsett 2wi...@gmail.com wrote:



Thanks Bob - I had a feeling that was the case - have no experience with 
Reunion (or Macs for that matter!) so this will be interesting!!!
Marion



On 28 July 2014 13:04, Bob Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote:

Hi Marion,
A gedcom is a text only file, so photos, as such, do not 'come with the 
gedcom'.  There could be a pointer to the photo, if that is how Reunion 
handles the files.  I have no experience with Reunion. 
Bob

marion wimsett said the following on 27/07/2014 23:45:
 Thanks you Wendy,
 Do the photos come with the gedcom as well?? I have to transfer the
 whole of the file over not just the details.
 Marion


 On 27 July 2014 10:00, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com
 mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

     Hi Marion,

     I expect you will need to export a GEDCOM file from the Reunion
     database, and then import that file into Legacy (File  Import).

     How you physically get the file from the Mac to the PC depends on what
     resources you have there. If you share a Dropbox folder with your
     husband, pop it into that and let it synchronise. Or copy it onto a
     stick (USB drive) and then copy it to the PC. Whatever method, don't
     delete the file from the Mac until you're sure you've got it on
     the PC,
     just to be safe.

     There may be more considerations in data formatting (there are various
     options to select from along the way, but I have no experience with
     Reunion to comment), that others can discuss with you from their
     experiences, so I will leave that for them to cover.

     Hope this helps. :-)

     Kind Regards,
     Wendy


     marion wimsett said the following on 27/07/2014 13:29:
      We have two different trees - mine on Legacy and husband on his
     Mac on
      Reunion.
     
      I am now going to have to transfer his tree over to Legacy. It
     doesn't
      have to be linked to mine at the moment - I can do that later.
     
      My problem is how can I transfer everything from Reunion over to my
      computer (PC) to install on Legacy (especially considering I know
      nothing about Reunion).
     
      If anyone has any ideas or has gone through this I would appreciate
      any help whatsoever.
     
      Thanks,
     
      Marion





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Re: [LegacyUG] One Place Studies Legacy

2014-07-28 Thread Ron Taylor
First, you need to understand tagging.
Then, use the Master Locations List to find the location you want.
Use Show List to find all individuals who have that location in their record.
Use Tag Everyone in List to set a tag for those that have the location.
Use SearchDetailed SearchTag = Tagged
Use PrintList Report OptionsCustomize as needed and Print


On Monday, July 28, 2014 5:14 PM, Dave Keeney dave.kee...@gmail.com wrote:



Has anyone tried using Legacy for a One Place Study?
I'm beginning a OPS and would like very much to use Legacy but can't get over 
some hurdles. 
All of the reports seem to be Name based and I can't see how to get reports for 
an entire place.

I'm beginning with the 1940 census for my place. Once input I'd like to have 
assistance from the local history society for that place. I'm having trouble 
see how to get an entire listing of everyone in the database. The descendant 
tab would give an good report. But it too is for a particular name. I started 
putting everyone as a descendant of The Place and that works well but since 
Legacy limits children to 60 it won't scale well, even for this relatively 
small place.

I'm just starting this so would like to see if anyone out there has attempted 
this (successfully or unsuccessfully).

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Re: [LegacyUG] One Place Studies Legacy

2014-07-28 Thread Ron Taylor
Glad you got it.  The Search Results uses the same format as the Name List.  
Once you have your results (you could tag a descendants list or whatever you 
wish) then as Tessa pointed out, you can export the data to CSV and play with 
it in Excel.


On Monday, July 28, 2014 8:23 PM, Dave Keeney dave.kee...@gmail.com wrote:



Ok, Ron I found it.
Thanks, I'll give that a try and see if I can get what I need/want.
Thanks again.



On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

First, you need to understand tagging.
Then, use the Master Locations List to find the location you want.
Use Show List to find all individuals who have that location in their record.
Use Tag Everyone in List to set a tag for those that have the location.
Use SearchDetailed SearchTag = Tagged
Use PrintList Report OptionsCustomize as needed and Print



On Monday, July 28, 2014 5:14 PM, Dave Keeney dave.kee...@gmail.com wrote:



Has anyone tried using Legacy for a One Place Study?
I'm beginning a OPS and would like very much to use Legacy but can't get over 
some hurdles. 
All of the reports seem to be Name based and I can't see how to get reports 
for an entire place.


I'm beginning with the 1940 census for my place. Once input I'd like to have 
assistance from the local history society for that place. I'm having trouble 
see how to get an entire listing of everyone in the database. The descendant 
tab would give an good report. But it too is for a particular name. I started 
putting everyone as a descendant of The Place and that works well but since 
Legacy limits children to 60 it won't scale well, even for this relatively 
small place.


I'm just starting this so would like to see if anyone out there has attempted 
this (successfully or unsuccessfully).

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Re: [LegacyUG] Comparing two different files of the same family in Legacy 8.0

2014-07-27 Thread Ron Taylor
There are lots of possibilities for database comparison.  Try this for starters

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=comparing+two+microsoft+access+databases+for+differences

 
Ron Taylor


On Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:56 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:



If you had not apologized no one would have known you were not a native
English speaker.

I do not know of any automated way to compare two files for differences.
The Legacy tool does look for people in two different files with similar
data and will present those in a side by side comparison.

If the files are truly The same family you can use Split Screen mode
with one file on the left and one on the right to do a side by side
manual examination. By switching from one file to another you can
examine the data for each side to see any differences.

You then have the option of dragging and dropping an individual with
changes into the other file and using merge to combine the data from
both people into one.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 26/07/2014 11:57 AM, Prof. Dr. Alvaro Hernandez wrote:
 Hi there,

 I have two different files of the same family and I´d like to know the best
 way to go about comparing them and “highlighting” the existing differences
 (individuals, dates, notes, events, etc.) preferably in an automated way.

snip

 Thanks in advance and best regards from Brazil.

 Al

 (I apologize for my English but it´s kind of rusty.)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8.0.0.439

2014-07-26 Thread Ron Taylor
Jenny,
Maybe I've been lucky, but I have not had any trouble with 439.  Installed fine 
and works well.  There are still some issues that I'm sure are being worked but 
it seems stable.  The need to re-install from a full download has been around 
for some time.  It is due to several possible reasons.  The best thing is that 
a full install overwrites the older install without loss of data.  Those using 
the standard version are required to update with this method.  Please report 
back if you continue to experience trouble with the latest and specify which OS 
and computer you are using.
Ron Taylor


On Saturday, July 26, 2014 7:32 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk 
wrote:



On 25/07/2014 18:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 I just updated to the latest release and at what appeared to be the end
 of the process a dialog box appeared which said that setup had not
 completed successfully and I needed to download the full program from
 the website.  There were three option buttons - Yes, No and Cancel.  I
 clicked yes and the Legacy site download page opened but as it was doing
 so, another dialog box popped up which said that the installation had
 completed successfully!

Further to the above, the update to 439 has been a complete disaster.  I
keep getting Error 9.  Having exhausted all the options of the Online
Troubleshooting information for this error (including uninstalling,
running CCleaner, reinstalling, opening my oldest (of 3) backups,
running Check/Repair 3 times and exporting it to a new file) the error
persists.  I have informed Support.

Is anyone else having trouble with this update?

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

2014-07-21 Thread Ron Taylor
Now I think I understand your situation.  When you backup a Legacy database, it 
produces 2 zip files.  One for data and another for media.

You have already converted your Legacy 7 data to version 8.  Now unzip the 
media to your new locaiton for media and then run the relinker.



On Monday, July 21, 2014 4:02 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:



Donna,
Have you searched the archives?  There were a lot of threads about relinking 
media and such right about the time v8 came out.  The link is at the bottom of 
this email.
--Paula in Texas

From: Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] pictures



So far nothing is working on linking up the pictures.  I printed a list of 
missing, 1188, and I can link them individually.  Now that will take a long 
time.  It finds the pictures on the other flash drive where they were 
associated with Legacy 7.5, it is still using that drive as the designation for 
where they are.  I wanted them to transfer over to the Legacy 8 flash drive.  
Media Linker won’t link them up.  Am I reduced to doing each one and having the 
media stored on the other flash drive.  This does not seem logical.  I am sure 
there has to be a very easy way to do this.  Suggestions welcome.
Donna in Ardmore





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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo-Locator Not Always Correct

2014-07-20 Thread Ron Taylor
The GEO database is a list of current locations...not time sensitive.  The 
county verifier can do some time sensitive lookup but it is not coordinated 
with the GEO database.  The Virtual Earth maps (now called the Bing Maps) are 
not coordinated with the GEO database either.  Those are 3 different ways that 
locations can be checked in Legacy.  What is really needed is a location table 
based on longitude and latitude.  Then given a date and the coordinates, you 
could query the location for any language and any time frame. 


On Sunday, July 20, 2014 6:32 PM, FLR roseda...@myfairpoint.net wrote:



From 1778 to 1820 it was called the District of Maine.
 
FLR

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I recently tried to insert a birthplace as Dixfield, Cumberland County, 
Massachusetts only to be informed that there never was a Cumberland County in  
Massachusetts.  While it is is true that Cumberland County and Dixfield are in 
Maine, the state of Maine did not come into existence until 1820.  Since 
Cumberland County was founded in 1760 out of York County, Massachusetts, I 
entered the data against the advice of the geo-database.  This is much like 
saying a county like Brooke County, West Virginia existed in 1845 when the 
entire state of West Virginia had not yet exist.  Anyone else find errors in 
the geo-database or can point me to where I have made an error?


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Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

2014-07-19 Thread Ron Taylor
The media that was linked to Legacy 7.5 database should still be linked when 
the file is converted to Legacy 8.  If you are moving the media files to 
another location, then the Relinker should be able to find those media files 
and fix the links.

It sounds like you have copied the media files to a new location.  If that is 
true, be sure to disconnect the former drive or delete the former folders.  
Otherwise, they will be found by the Relinker and those pictures will be linked 
instead of the new ones you created.

If you changed any of the media file names, then you have a problem.  Relinker 
is only searching for the exact same file name and then it will fix the path to 
that file if it is found.

Ron Taylor


On Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:51 AM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:



So far nothing is working on linking up the pictures.  I printed a list of 
missing, 1188, and I can link them individually.  Now that will take a long 
time.  It finds the pictures on the other flash drive where they were 
associated with Legacy 7.5, it is still using that drive as the designation for 
where they are.  I wanted them to transfer over to the Legacy 8 flash drive.  
Media Linker won’t link them up.  Am I reduced to doing each one and having the 
media stored on the other flash drive.  This does not seem logical.  I am sure 
there has to be a very easy way to do this.  Suggestions welcome.
Donna in Ardmore

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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart -- 3 generations with spouses

2014-07-17 Thread Ron Taylor
The Charting Companion has a good descendant fan chart that should fit on one 
page for 3 generations.


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Bob has a good suggestion to use Legacy Charting to make the Descendant
Chart.

It will show the spouses of the third generation without including their
children. My earlier email referred to the Descendant Chart which Legacy
creates since Pat asked how to get Legacy to do what she wanted. Legacy
Charting also has the ability to move people around to help condense the
chart but there is still no fit to one page option.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 17/07/2014 4:32 PM, Bob Austen wrote:
 Pat,

 You should be able to achieve this by the '# Gens' selected.  The great 
 grandchildren in your example would be the fourth generation, so selecting '# 
 Gens 3' prevents the great grandchildren from appearing.

 There are some things you can do to try to get your chart on one page.  I 
 tried the Descendant chart with a simple four generation family and it was 
 shown in the middle of two pages.  I could select all of the chart and drag 
 it over to the left most page and it is now shown on one page.  Or, use the 
 'Center Chart' button on the left side of the screen.  You can also use the 
 'Sizing options' to change the box size and the spacing to try to get it to 
 fit on one page.  It may be a better fit if the page is in Landscape mode.  
 To change to Landscape mode go to 'File Button' (the round icon with the 
 chart in the upper left corner), select 'Print',  'Properties', and change 
 the page orientation to 'Landscape'.

 Of course your chart may just be too big to fit on one page!

 Bob A



 From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:40 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart -- 3 generations with spouses

 How do I get Legacy to create a 3-generation descendant chart with spouses 
 for everyone, but no great-grandchildren?

 In other words I want 1) the ancestor, 2) his children, their spouses and 3) 
 children and those children's spouses -- but no great-grandchildren.

 Also, is there an option somewhere that says fit this into one page?

 Thanks,

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] List of marriages

2014-07-17 Thread Ron Taylor
Tag the individuals wanted, then use the Name List print options.  You could 
output to a spreadsheet (CSV format) and then use the spreadsheet to show what 
you want.  Alternate surname spellings is another problem.  Unless you have 
been compiling the alternate spellings somewhere, you are limited to the 
Soundex approach.  At this point, the surnames table is not tracking the 
variant spellings but with a little work it might be done.  Future wish.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, July 17, 2014 2:29 PM, Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:



Is there any way to get Legacy to print name of bride, groom, date  place of 
marriage for a particular surname and date range?

What I would like is one line per marriage:

Groom's LN, FN, dob-dod,  Bride's MN, FN, dob-dod    Date  Place of marriage.


I would like to limit this by surname of groom (or perhaps a range of surnames 
so as to include spelling variations,  e.g. Prichet-Prickitt.

I might also like to do the same for brides, limiting the report by surname of 
bride.

Pat

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Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

2014-07-17 Thread Ron Taylor
The most important key to media files is to be certain that each media file has 
a unique file name.  I like to name the files with this pattern

Surname, Given name - short description

Two media files should never have the same name even if they are in different 
folders...thus fulfilling the unique rule.

The files can reside in any folder structure but it is best to keep the 
structure simple.  The filename can be 255 characters and the path to the file 
can be 255 characters.  Simple folder and sub-folder structures can be used as 
long as the total length of the path is less than 255.

The default location for media files in Legacy 8.0.0.427 using Windows 
Vista/7/8 is

C:\Users\Username\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media

and the default for Windows XP is

C:\Documents and Settings\Username\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media

where Username is the Login account name.

That works well for someone that does not plan to collaborate with anyone and 
wants media to be stored in the default location.  For a Legacy user that is 
collaborating with other Legacy users, a better method is to have a root level 
folder assigned to each collaborator.  Then each collaborator collects media 
files into the folder assigned to them.  All collaborators are instructed to 
only alter files in their assigned folder.  In their folder, they can change 
filenames, sub-folder structures, etc. without affecting files collected by 
other collaborators.  An example of these root level folders might be

C:\DonnaMM
C:\GladeMM
C:\GordonMM
C:\RonMM

where MM stands for Multimedia.  But any other root level folder name would 
suffice.

The one new function in v8 Legacy that can cause problems with the above 
collaborator scenario is the new Gather Media routine.  It will pull copies 
of the media files from where they currently reside and place the copies into 
the default media folder regardless of who collected them or how they were 
structured.  Therefore, Gather Media is not a good idea for collaborators.

Once all media files have been successfully linked to Legacy, they can be moved 
(not renamed) to other folder structures as desired.  Then the Media Relinker 
can relocate them and fix the links.  The Relinker cannot find file names that 
have been changed.  If a media file needs to be renamed, it is best done in 
Legacy with the Picture CenterRename because after the file name is changed, 
the link will be retained.

Ron Taylor


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I tried to combine all of the media locations in customize 6.2 and ended up 
with more media files missing, I am now up to 1899.  What am I doing wrong now? 
 Can you give me a detailed step by step to accomplish my task.  I am beginning 
to feel very stupid on this.  Legacy has always been very user friendly and I 
have recommended it to lots of people because of that feature.  Now I am 
stumped, read the chapter in the book and looked at the help section, still at 
a loss.  I also think I now screwed up by combining all of the media files.

Donna

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:01 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

Thank you Cathy, I will try what you have suggested in the morning. My drive 
with the media in it is attached, but it doesn't seem to have found it.  Could 
it be because it was associated only with Legacy 7.5 and I used sub folders.

Donna

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 16, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Donna,
 Once set up, adding media in Legacy 8 is much easier than in earlier
 versions.

 You say your attached media is on a separate drive. I assume that
 drive is always connected to your computer when using Legacy. If not,
 that is your first problem. Legacy links to media - that media must be 
 available.

 Have you run the Tool Media Relinker to fix those 1128 missing photos?

 Have you set Option 6.2 to your default media folder? This is the
 parent folder of your sub-folder system. If your media isn't in a set
 of sub-folders to a parent folder but in a number of unconnected
 folders, you may want to rearrange before running the Media Relinker.

 Then, when adding a new picture, if it isn't already in the Default
 Media Folder you've designated at Option 6.2 you have the choice of
 moving or copying it to that folder OR on another tab of that dialogue
 to any other folder - which is the way to make sure it's in the
 appropriate sub-folder.

 I'm not sure I've covered all your queries but hope that helps.

 Cathy

 Donna Newell mailto:djnewel...@gmail.com Thursday, 17 July 2014
 8:12 AM

 I have just loaded one of the family files to Legacy 8.  The pictures
 did not all make the switch.  I just attempted to add a picture using
 the picture center and I had to go through a number of steps, much
 different than Legacy 7.5, which was really easy

Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart -- 3 generations with spouses

2014-07-17 Thread Ron Taylor
Good one Mike.  Thus the popularity of lmgtfy.com


On Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:43 PM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:



On 17 Jul 2014 23:13, Pat Hickin wrote:

 If I have Legacy Charting I don't know where to find it.

That's what the Help is intended for.

--
Regards, Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] geo database

2014-07-17 Thread Ron Taylor
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22not+a+valid+win32+application%22+geo+database+Legacy

 
This has been answered.  See second search result from above link.


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yep, I know I'm a bit behind the time, but have not loaded the new geo
database into my version 8 program.  I wouldn't remember to download
it when I was at a high speed wifi spot... but did today.  went to
Legacyfamilytree.com, clicked download and found the geodb file and
downloaded it without any difficulty.  Now, when I go to install it, I
get a this is not a valid win32 application.  Help???  Thanks ahead
of time.
Gail



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Re: [LegacyUG] Report for parents only one child

2014-07-11 Thread Ron Taylor
Jay,
I'm wondering what prompted you to search for this combination.  What are you 
trying to solve?
Ron Taylor


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This one could be fun.  
1) Clear tag1
2) use LegacySearchFindMiscellaneousLinked individuals with no parents then 
click Clear List before this search and click Create List.  When then 
search results list is displayed, click OptionsAdvanced TaggingTag and make 
changes to tag1.  Click Everyone in Search List.  Now all individuals without 
parents have tag1.
3) Create and save the following query which will be used in step4.  Name it 
qtblMR_parents_eol

SELECT DISTINCT tblCR.IDMR
FROM ((tblCR INNER JOIN tblMR ON tblCR.IDMR=tblMR.IDMR) INNER JOIN tblIR ON 
tblMR.IDIRHusb=tblIR.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblIR AS tblIR_1 ON 
tblMR.IDIRWife=tblIR_1.IDIR
WHERE (((tblCR.IDMR)0) AND ((tblIR.Tag1)0) AND ((tblIR_1.Tag1)0) AND 
((tblMR.IDIRHusb)0) AND ((tblMR.IDIRWife)0));

4) Run this query to find the marriage records to answer your question.

SELECT tblCR.IDMR, Count(tblCR.IDIR) AS Children
FROM qtblMR_parents_eol INNER JOIN tblCR ON qtblMR_parents_eol.IDMR = tblCR.IDMR
GROUP BY tblCR.IDMR
HAVING (((Count(tblCR.IDIR))=1))
ORDER BY tblCR.IDMR;

Let me know if this is what you needed.  Note you could tweak the Having 
number of children as desired.
Ron Taylor


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wrote:



I would like to create a report of all parents that only have one child 
AND the parents have no father or mother in my database.

If any great sql coders could help me out, that would be great. 

Thanks

Jay 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Report for parents only one child

2014-07-09 Thread Ron Taylor
This one could be fun.  
1) Clear tag1
2) use LegacySearchFindMiscellaneousLinked individuals with no parents then 
click Clear List before this search and click Create List.  When then 
search results list is displayed, click OptionsAdvanced TaggingTag and make 
changes to tag1.  Click Everyone in Search List.  Now all individuals without 
parents have tag1.
3) Create and save the following query which will be used in step4.  Name it 
qtblMR_parents_eol

SELECT DISTINCT tblCR.IDMR
FROM ((tblCR INNER JOIN tblMR ON tblCR.IDMR=tblMR.IDMR) INNER JOIN tblIR ON 
tblMR.IDIRHusb=tblIR.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblIR AS tblIR_1 ON 
tblMR.IDIRWife=tblIR_1.IDIR
WHERE (((tblCR.IDMR)0) AND ((tblIR.Tag1)0) AND ((tblIR_1.Tag1)0) AND 
((tblMR.IDIRHusb)0) AND ((tblMR.IDIRWife)0));

4) Run this query to find the marriage records to answer your question.

SELECT tblCR.IDMR, Count(tblCR.IDIR) AS Children
FROM qtblMR_parents_eol INNER JOIN tblCR ON qtblMR_parents_eol.IDMR = tblCR.IDMR
GROUP BY tblCR.IDMR
HAVING (((Count(tblCR.IDIR))=1))
ORDER BY tblCR.IDMR;

Let me know if this is what you needed.  Note you could tweak the Having 
number of children as desired.
Ron Taylor


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wrote:



I would like to create a report of all parents that only have one child 
AND the parents have no father or mother in my database.

If any great sql coders could help me out, that would be great. 

Thanks

Jay 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Special characters

2014-07-09 Thread Ron Taylor
I assume you already tried changing the 8 characters that can show in the 
ribbon from the selection of special characters.  If the characters you need 
are not in the table, then Millennia support should get involved.  It may 
require a different code set.  Be sure to check HelpSearchCharacter Map.  The 
character sets that Legacy claims to handle for import of GEDCOM files are 
ANSI, ANSEL, and UTF-8.  Try to determine what character set you may require 
for your Czech data and provide that to support.
Ron Taylor


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Re the Windows Czech keyboard Czech (Sorry, I could not resist it) out this 
article:  

http://superuser.com/questions/653404/how-to-type-czech-characters-on-windows-7-using-cs-language-with-us-internationa

Bob Hansen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Special characters

2014-07-09 Thread Ron Taylor
Legacy 8.0.0.427HelpHelp IndexSearchUTF-8 finds it under both import and 
export GEDCOM.  I haven't tested it lately to see if it actually works but it 
is documented in these help files.
Ron Taylor


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John,

It is not the practice for Legacy to disclose their future developments much 
before the time of release. We have only just had V8, so some years off yet!

Ron Ferguson

John Magyari jmagy...@gmail.com wrote:


UTF-8,UTF-16, Unicode characters have been possible for 5-6
years via 3rdparty Libraries used with Visual Basic 6.
Legacy 7 and Legacy 8 both could have supported UTF-8 with
these libraries.
 
Some 3rdproduct libraries and there are others:
http://www.cyberactivex.com/unicodetutorialvb.htm
http://www.hexagora.com/en_dw_unictrl.asp
Unicode would allow you to documet ancestors with Cyrillic,
Japanese, Chinese, Hebrew and many other letters currently not supported.
Whether Legacy 9 departs from VB6 or not it should support
Unicode, UTF-8 and UTF-16. 
Do we know if
this is part of the spec for Version 9?



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Ron,

Legacy does not support utf-8 as the program is based on VB6 technology and 
.NET is needed for utf-8.

Ron Ferguson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status - TWIN

2014-07-08 Thread Ron Taylor
Jay's original question was about which field in the database contained the 
child status.  That is why I provided a few SQL scripts that make use of those 
fields in the database tables.  I was aware of the methods available in Legacy. 
 If you try the scripts that I posted, you will find functionality not 
available in Legacy such as finding siblings with the same name, listing 
individuals with multiple parents including their relationship to each parent.  
The third script can be modified to achieve several other possibilities that 
are not in Legacy.  I also have another script that can find possible multiple 
births that have the child status blank and help to get those child status 
fields set to Twin, Triplet, etc.


On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:58 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:



That wasn't your original question!





Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:

Thanks Sherry, 


But That doesnt answer my question, as I intend on using a SQL search to 
update all the ones that are not flagged as twins. 


I need to look thru the fields in the CP, CR and CS tables, It must be set 
there.











On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

Isn't it easier to just do a Search on the Detailed Search tab


Look for whom?  Individual

Where to look Child Status
How to look    Equal to

What to look for   Twin


Of course, this is assuming you have twins flagged with child status


And of course, you can find individuals with Multiple Parents on the 
Miscellaneous tab.






Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status - TWIN

2014-07-08 Thread Ron Taylor
 AS tblCR_A 
ON tblIR_A.IDIR = tblCR_A.IDIR) ON tblCS_A.IDCS = tblCR_A.IDCS, (tblIR AS 
tblIR_B INNER JOIN tblCR AS tblCR_B ON tblIR_B.IDIR = tblCR_B.IDIR) INNER JOIN 
tblCS AS tblCS_B ON tblCR_B.IDCS = tblCS_B.IDCS
WHERE (((tblIR_A.Surname)=[tblIR_B].[Surname]) AND 
((tblIR_A.IDIR)[tblIR_B].[IDIR]) AND ((tblIR_A.BirthSD)=[tblIR_B].[BirthSD] 
And (tblIR_A.BirthSD)0) AND ((tblCR_A.IDMR)=[tblCR_B].[IDMR]));

If you come up with some useful SQL please share.  Maybe someday, Legacy will 
automatically suggest child status when siblings with the same birthdate are 
entered.  At this point in time, we have to manually set those flags.  Once 
they are set, then Legacy does have tools for finding them.  But no tools for 
determining if the settings are missing like these scripts.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Special characters

2014-07-08 Thread Ron Taylor
Have you tried the ribbon for special characters as you enter data?


On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 5:18 PM, Steve Pick st...@trycom.com wrote:



Copy it into wordpad and then just change the font size to want you want. Then 
copy into Legacy. I haven't tried it but I assume that works.




On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Gene Wheeler bridge...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a lot of Czech names and locations that require the use of special 
characters, many of which are not available to choose for use within Legacy 
v.8.  When I try to use these characters from the Windows Character Map, they 
display in a larger font than used in the various name, location, and notes 
fields in v.8.  Is that a way to get around this?  Thanks!


Gene

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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status - TWIN

2014-07-07 Thread Ron Taylor
Jay,
This first script is one that I developed to locate duplicate siblings in the 
database.  These are situations where a child is given a name that the parents 
want but then dies early so they give the same name to another child.  
Sometimes more than twice.  It illustrates the connection of the child status 
to the child record which is linked to the individual record.

SELECT tblCR_A.IDMR, tblCR_A.IDIR, tblCR_B.IDIR, tblIR_A.Surname, 
tblIR_A.GivenName, tblIR_B.GivenName, tblIR_A.Gender, tblIR_B.Gender, 
tblCS_A.ChildStatus, tblCS_B.ChildStatus
FROM (tblCR AS tblCR_A INNER JOIN tblIR AS tblIR_A ON tblCR_A.IDIR = 
tblIR_A.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblCS AS tblCS_A ON tblCR_A.IDCS = tblCS_A.IDCS, 
(tblCR AS tblCR_B INNER JOIN tblIR AS tblIR_B ON tblCR_B.IDIR = tblIR_B.IDIR) 
INNER JOIN tblCS AS tblCS_B ON tblCR_B.IDCS = tblCS_B.IDCS
WHERE (((tblCR_A.IDMR)=[tblCR_B].[IDMR]) AND ((tblCR_A.IDIR)[tblCR_B].[IDIR]) 
AND ((tblIR_A.GivenName)=[tblIR_B].[GivenName]))
ORDER BY tblCR_A.IDIR;

This next script will find individuals that are linked to multiple parents and 
how the relationship to each parent is linked.

SELECT tblCR.IDIR, tblIR.Surname, tblIR.GivenName, tblCR.IDMR, 
tblMR.HusbSurname, tblMR.HusbGivenName, tblMR.WifeSurname, tblMR.WifeGivenName, 
tblIR.IDMRParents, tblCP.CPRelation, tblCP_1.CPRelation, tblCR.IDCPDad, 
tblCR.IDCPMom
FROM (((tblCR INNER JOIN tblMR ON tblCR.IDMR = tblMR.IDMR) INNER JOIN tblIR ON 
tblCR.IDIR = tblIR.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblCP ON tblCR.IDCPDad = tblCP.IDCP) INNER 
JOIN tblCP AS tblCP_1 ON tblCR.IDCPMom = tblCP_1.IDCP
WHERE (((tblCR.IDCPDad)1)) OR (((tblCR.IDCPMom)1))
ORDER BY tblCR.IDIR, tblCR.IDMR;

Finally, this script will find all individuals with child status Twin and 
illustrates how the status is linked to the individual.

SELECT tblCR.IDIR, tblIR.Surname, tblIR.GivenName, tblCS.ChildStatus
FROM (tblCR INNER JOIN tblCS ON tblCR.IDCS = tblCS.IDCS) INNER JOIN tblIR ON 
tblCR.IDIR = tblIR.IDIR
WHERE (((tblCS.ChildStatus) Like Twin));

Hope that helps you with your quest.
Ron Taylor



On Monday, July 7, 2014 7:59 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:






When I change a child status from the default of '_' to 'TWIN', 

What field changes in the database?

I cannot see any changes in the IR table for Individuals 
Or is there somewhere else I should be looking?

Thanks for any help 

Jay  

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find and Replace

2014-07-05 Thread Ron Taylor
I remember a response from Millennia that they intend to implement search  
replace withing a tagged subset.  That will be a future release.  Hope it might 
be in version 8 as an update and not pushed off to version 9 or later.  
Meanwhile, the process I explained is the only way using Legacy.  It could be 
done with a SQL script but that's another story.


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 3:52 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:



On 04/07/2014 23:37, Ron Taylor wrote:
 It was posted July 2 8:54am.  Here it is again.

 A search and replace in a tagged subset is needed and would be a great
 feature.  The only way to do it with the current program would be to
 export the tagged subset to another Legacy file, do the search and
 replace there, then use Intellishare merge to combine the subset back
 into the main file.
 Ron Taylor


Oh yes, I did see that and you are quite correct, of course, but I was
meaning that one could not Find  Replace within a subset *within the
existing file.  Albeit the new file is a subset of the old, I don't
think working with a new file  is what one *generally* thinks of when
referring to a subset.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Find and Replace

2014-07-04 Thread Ron Taylor
It was posted July 2 8:54am.  Here it is again.

A search and replace in a tagged subset is needed and would be a great feature. 
 The only way to do it with the current program would be to export the tagged 
subset to another Legacy file, do the search and replace there, then use 
Intellishare merge to combine the subset back into the main file.
Ron Taylor


On Friday, July 4, 2014 7:42 AM, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:



Please provide more detail on how you are able to use the tag to limit a Search 
and Replace operation.  I don't see anything on the Search and Replace screen 
that allows for a compound search.  There's only the Field to Search, the Text 
to Search for, and the Replacement Text, and some basic options.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:20 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Find and Replace

Leon, use tagging.  At the bottom of the original search list there is an 
options, advanced tagging where you can give everyone in the search list a 
tag (one that you have not used before or clear an existing one).
You can then use the tag number as part of your next search where individual 
tag# equals tagged.

Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Leon Moya [mailto:l...@mymail-box.com]
Sent: 02 July 2014 00:20
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Find and Replace

Hello,

Is it possible to run a Find and Replace process against the results of a 
previously prepared Search List.

If so, could someone please point me to the relevant section in the help files.

So Many Thanks,

Leon








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Re: [LegacyUG] Find and Replace

2014-07-03 Thread Ron Taylor
Unless you do it the way I described.  Re-read my post on this topic.  I use 
that method frequently when I need to search and replace on a subset.
Ron Taylor


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On 03/07/2014 06:19, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Leon, use tagging.  At the bottom of the original search list there
 is an options, advanced tagging where you can give everyone in the
 search list a tag (one that you have not used before or clear an
 existing one). You can then use the tag number as part of your next
 search where individual tag# equals tagged.

That creates a sub-set, but as has already been pointed out, one cannot
confine a Search  Replace operation to a sub-set.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Find and Replace

2014-07-02 Thread Ron Taylor
A search and replace in a tagged subset is needed and would be a great feature. 
 The only way to do it with the current program would be to export the tagged 
subset to another Legacy file, do the search and replace there, then use 
Intellishare merge to combine the subset back into the main file.
Ron Taylor


On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:08 PM, Bob Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote:



Hi Leon,

I am sure that is not possible.  The Search and Replace only works with the 
designated fields and searches the entire file.  Perhaps there is another way 
around your situation - can you elaborate on what your are trying to achieve?  
I'm trying to envision a use for that - it could be a worthwhile suggestion.

Bob A



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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Find and Replace

Hello,

Is it possible to run a Find and Replace process against the results of a 
previously prepared Search List.

If so, could someone please point me to the relevant section in the help files.

So Many Thanks,

Leon




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Re: [LegacyUG] Media Folder List

2014-06-27 Thread Ron Taylor
There are 2 ways to look at Multimedia and Legacy.
1) Multimedia file names that Legacy has stored in the database.
2) Multimedia files that may or may not be linked to a Legacy database.

For type 1, use OptionsCustomizeLocations6.2Test All Media Folders to
see which linked file names can be located by Legacy

For type 2, use LtoolsDeluxeFind Unattached Multimedia to see which files
are linked to Legacy or not and whether they are located where Legacy
thinks they should be.

Type 1 is looking for the files from inside of Legacy
Type 2 is looking at the files outside of Legacy to see if they are linked
in Legacy

Ron Taylor


On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 27 Jun 2014 11:16, Pat Hickin wrote:
  Somehow (I imagine thru my own carelessness), I've got several folders
 in my
  Master Media Folder List that should not be there.  They are perfectly
 good
  folders but I do not want them in this list.  But there is no option to
 remove
  them and I don't want to delete or combine them with another folder.  I
 tried
  the Close option but that didn't seem to change things.
 
  I had a similar problem with Leg7 but could always figure out how to
 resolve it.
Now, for some reason I can't.
 
  Also how do I get a list of the images/files (in these folders) that are
 being
  used by Legacy so that I can move them to the right folder?

 What's wrong with using the Delete option in Options?

 --
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 Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] d'Aboville numbers

2014-06-24 Thread Ron Taylor
You can use LTools to set various numbers into the UserID field including 
d'Aboville numbers.  Then the UserID field can be displayed in reports as 
needed.  One advantage of the Set Special User IDs is the option Exclude 
Non-Biological Relationships which will bypass links that are not on the blood 
line like spouses or adopted children.
Ron Taylor


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On 24/06/2014 11:01, Cathy Pinner wrote:
 And if you look at the Descendant Narrative Report, you'll discover
 that the option is missing, though the order of the report is right.

Whoops!

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Re: [LegacyUG] need help switching files/fdb

2014-06-24 Thread Ron Taylor
Deb,
When a file is converted to version 8, it is also copied to a new disk folder 
location.  It sounds like you may have done that but then when you decide to 
open your file again you are opening the original file.  See if that is the 
case.  If so you can verify that the new converted version 8 file is where it 
should be (C:\Users\Username\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data) and be sure 
you can open it.  You should find all your changes in that one.  Then delete 
the old Legacy 7 file or rename it to avoid confusion.  It will be in 
C:\Legacy\Data.

The reason that the old file is left in place is in case you want to open it 
again in Legacy 7.  But if you're sure the conversion is right it is 
recommended that you delete the old file because you can't move a version 8 
database back into version 7.
Ron Taylor


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Hello, 
I've been using Legacy 7 for years and now have version 8. 

I have two separate files on Legacy, let's say FamilyA.fdb and FamilyB.fdb.  
They are completely separate. The problem I'm having is this. When I am working 
on one family and want to switch over to work on the other family, I have to 
re-load the fdb all over again, losing any data I had entered into the first 
file!

When I used version 7, all I had to do was click on the link in the upper 
left-hand corner that said File and there would be a list of the databases I 
had in the program. I would click on the name of whichever fdb  I wanted to go 
to and it would take me there. Now, if I do that, as stated above, I have to 
reload the one I want to use, losing any information previously entered.

I hope this is clear enough so someone can help me with this!

Thanks,
Deb

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Re: [LegacyUG] Highlighting ancestors

2014-06-22 Thread Ron Taylor
HelpIndexBold Direct Line

Not colored but at least bolded.


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How do I highlight my ancestors?  I can find no assistance from the toolbar or 
legacy help.

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Special Large Merge

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Taylor
My only suggestion at this point is never export to GEDCOM.  Just extract those 
tagged records to a new Legacy file and send it.  Then everything that has not 
changed will automerge with the Intellishare values.  I frequently slice a 
piece of my main database (over 250,000) and send it to collaborators for their 
piece of the pie to update.  When their copy is combined back into the main 
file, I get a few records to review but the majority automerge.  I always 
export with the 3 boxes checked under the All records with an individual tag 
of so that essentially complete family groups are exported.  That does help 
when the data comes back.  You might try combining the new updated file with 
the slice of your main file that was used to create the GEDCOM and then 
evaluate whether it is going to be a problem.  If that works, then combine the 
updated slice back into the main file...otherwise back to more planning.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:14 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:



Ron, 

Thanks for the explanation. 

I agreed completely with what you say, but comparing and clicking thru 600 
pictures is more like an hour and half rather than a few minutes.

The problem is that the data used was a gedcom of approx 8500 persons tagged 
and created from my database of 220,000. 
I tagged everyone who had that particular cemetery as their burial place, 
then also included the parents, spouses and children in the gedcom, since they 
would also likely be buried at the same place.
I did not want the 'volunteer' to have to add any persons.
The gedcom was sent and they also used Legacy 7.5 to enter the links and pic 
captions
Then they send the file back to me as a gedcom. 

But because Legacy doesnt export a COMPLETE (parental) Family group , I have 
all these 'not matching' families

Now, if the question to include spouses, parents and children of tagged 
individuals ALSO asked about siblings of tagged persons, then there would be 
complete FAMC groups and exact matches when importing the data back into the 
original file,


Thanks for taking the time to help out and think thru on this. 

Jay 












 



On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

Jay,
First, it is necessary to understand how the GEDCOM was used to insert the new 
picture attachments.  If it was done with a text editor, that could be 
interesting.  If the GEDCOM was loaded into some other genealogy program or 
even another Legacy database and then the pictures were attached, the updated 
file could again be exported to another GEDCOM and that GEDCOM imported into a 
new Legacy database.


If the only difference between the GEDCOM file and the Legacy file that 
created it are the new picture attachments, you should be able to then combine 
the data from the GEDCOM imported back into Legacy with the original Legacy 
file and execute an Intellishare Merge.  Every record that has a new picture 
attached will bring up the original and the imported file for review before 
merging but the only difference should be the picture attached to the imported 
GEDCOM record.  If that is the case you could quickly click through the 600 
records allowing them to merge.  If there are other fields that someone 
changed, those would obviously require more evaluation before merging.


It may be possible to merge that in a few minutes if it meets the description 
I've given above.
Ron Taylor



On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:40 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:







I have someone who graciously helped me out in linking over 600 image 
tombstones to the correct persons and added a Pic Caption and Pic Desc to over 
800 persons

They entered this info into a gedcom I created from my Legacy7.5 database. 
(I am still using ver 7.5 also)

All I want to do is take the 800 or so persons that are linked to the 600 or 
so images and merge them back into my original file. Updating only the link, 
pic caption and pic descr.

Anyone have any creative ideas to make that happen??



The standard merge process is so time consuming. 
(because of diff family sizes, some with , some without spouses, etc. )

I even have a txt file listing of the new filenames that are now linked up
(there were already several hundred pic links to this same cemetery, so they 
have the identical IDBPPic in the BR table.)

Otherwise, I guess my next weekend will be spent 
merging


Thanks in advance for any help
Jay


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Re: [LegacyUG] Special Large Merge

2014-06-18 Thread Ron Taylor
Jay,
First, it is necessary to understand how the GEDCOM was used to insert the new 
picture attachments.  If it was done with a text editor, that could be 
interesting.  If the GEDCOM was loaded into some other genealogy program or 
even another Legacy database and then the pictures were attached, the updated 
file could again be exported to another GEDCOM and that GEDCOM imported into a 
new Legacy database.

If the only difference between the GEDCOM file and the Legacy file that created 
it are the new picture attachments, you should be able to then combine the data 
from the GEDCOM imported back into Legacy with the original Legacy file and 
execute an Intellishare Merge.  Every record that has a new picture attached 
will bring up the original and the imported file for review before merging but 
the only difference should be the picture attached to the imported GEDCOM 
record.  If that is the case you could quickly click through the 600 records 
allowing them to merge.  If there are other fields that someone changed, those 
would obviously require more evaluation before merging.

It may be possible to merge that in a few minutes if it meets the description 
I've given above.
Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:40 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:






I have someone who graciously helped me out in linking over 600 image 
tombstones to the correct persons and added a Pic Caption and Pic Desc to over 
800 persons

They entered this info into a gedcom I created from my Legacy7.5 database. 
(I am still using ver 7.5 also)

All I want to do is take the 800 or so persons that are linked to the 600 or so 
images and merge them back into my original file. Updating only the link, pic 
caption and pic descr.

Anyone have any creative ideas to make that happen??



The standard merge process is so time consuming. 
(because of diff family sizes, some with , some without spouses, etc. )

I even have a txt file listing of the new filenames that are now linked up
(there were already several hundred pic links to this same cemetery, so they 
have the identical IDBPPic in the BR table.)

Otherwise, I guess my next weekend will be spent 
merging


Thanks in advance for any help
Jay


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Re: [LegacyUG] Question re: Syncing people in two family files

2014-06-16 Thread Ron Taylor
David is right.  One file.  Then it is simple to split when necessary.  You 
will avoid making entries multiple times, correcting locations, standardizing 
spellings, etc.
Ron Taylor


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The plain answer is NO.
Why not just use one combined file?
 
Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Question re: Syncing people in two family files
 
Hi All;
I'm new to Legacy and have a question.
 
I'm compiling two family files using Legacy8, one for my family and one for my 
wife's family. My question is how to sync the entries for myself, my wife and 
our children in both files. Is there a way to avoid entering the data twice?
Thanks for your help.
 
Dan Farbman
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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't get a list of people using a media path

2014-06-15 Thread Ron Taylor
Richard,
I can get the Scrapbook Media List to work with all options except when Source 
citation detail is checked.  That gives an error 6.  I have Legacy support 
looking into it but so far they have not been able to figure out what is 
causing the problem.  Do you get any errors when using the Media List?


On Sunday, June 15, 2014 9:52 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova 
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:



Brian,

Thank you for reply. Please see my reply to Ron.

I verified that method of finding Individuals using a directory does work for 
pictures of Burial Event pictures.

I will re-look into specific problem directories. Some found no Individuals 
using.

I will also try your suggestion of using the scrapbook media listing report.

Actually the Internet address media paths are the worst but not only problem 
Media paths.

-- 
Richard Van Wasshnova



On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

But media can be applied to things which are not directly related to
people such as Locations, Sources, Addresses and Temples. Those paths
without a person in the list using your method may be used by those
media. I cannot comment on why you say some lists are short or include
the wrong people.

Have you used the scrapbook media listing report?
Reports  Other Reports  Scrapbook
That report can include media listings for Locations, Sources (Master
and Source Details), Addresses and Temples as well as individuals and
marriages. You can also choose the type of media files to be included in
the listing.
The print media file list button will let you generate a report.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 13/06/2014 2:09 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 When you: View  Master Lists  Source
 you can select any source and Show List to see all who use it.
 Same for most other lists.
 For Locations you see list of people as soon as you select a location.

 However for the Media Folder List the only way I can find to show users is
 Options  Delete  View List which seems a bit risky.

 Ignoring the risks though I'm not pleased with the results I'm getting.
 Some paths show nobody using them, others come up short and wrong people.
 I have 400 paths, (5 samples below)

 [Default Media Folder]\Docs\Books\Bay_Settlement_of_Monroe_County\
 [Default Media Folder]\Docs\Cemetery\Our_Lady_of_Hope\
 [Default Media Folder]\Pictures\vanwasshnova\
   https:\\familysearch.org\pal:\MM9.1.1\\
 http:\\www.wikitree.com\wiki\\
 Does anyone else get good results? Is there another way to find who is
 using any media path?
 I know I could move or rename a directory and see who comes up in
 missing.txt




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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't get a list of people using a media path

2014-06-15 Thread Ron Taylor
Oh...and the other thing that really needs to be included in the Media List 
(and lots of other Legacy reports) is output to CSV.


On , Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:



Richard,
I can get the Scrapbook Media List to work with all options except when Source 
citation detail is checked.  That gives an error 6.  I have Legacy support 
looking into it but so far they have not been able to figure out what is 
causing the problem.  Do you get any errors when using the Media List?


On Sunday, June 15, 2014 9:52 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova 
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:



Brian,

Thank you for reply. Please see my reply to Ron.

I verified that method of finding Individuals using a directory does work for 
pictures of Burial Event pictures.

I will re-look into specific problem directories. Some found no Individuals 
using.

I will also try your suggestion of using the scrapbook media listing report.

Actually the Internet address media paths are the worst but not only problem 
Media paths.

-- 
Richard Van Wasshnova



On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

But media can be applied to things which are not directly related to
people such as Locations, Sources, Addresses and Temples. Those paths
without a person in the list using your method may be used by those
media. I cannot comment on why you say some lists are short or include
the wrong people.

Have you used the scrapbook media listing report?
Reports  Other Reports  Scrapbook
That report can include media listings for Locations, Sources (Master
and Source Details), Addresses and Temples as well as individuals and
marriages. You can also choose the type of media files to be included in
the listing.
The print media file list button will let you generate a report.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 13/06/2014 2:09 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 When you: View  Master Lists  Source
 you can select any source and Show List to see all who use it.
 Same for most other lists.
 For Locations you see list of people as soon as you select a location.

 However for the Media Folder List the only way I can find to show users is
 Options  Delete  View List which seems a bit risky.

 Ignoring the risks though I'm not pleased with the results I'm getting.
 Some paths show nobody using them, others come up short and wrong people.
 I have 400 paths, (5 samples below)

 [Default Media Folder]\Docs\Books\Bay_Settlement_of_Monroe_County\
 [Default Media Folder]\Docs\Cemetery\Our_Lady_of_Hope\
 [Default Media Folder]\Pictures\vanwasshnova\
   https:\\familysearch.org\pal:\MM9.1.1\\
 http:\\www.wikitree.com\wiki\\
 Does anyone else get good results? Is there another way to find who is
 using any media path?
 I know I could move or rename a directory and see who comes up in
 missing.txt




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Re: [LegacyUG] Find Duplicates does not handle middle initials

2014-06-14 Thread Ron Taylor
Ward,
Note that in Normal Duplicate Search that the Surnames are compared as either 
Exact Spelling or Sounds Like.

It is the Given Names that are compared for the number of beginning characters 
and those have to match exactly...there is no Sounds Like for the given names 
match.

Set the Check birth dates, Day range to 0 for an exact match or some other 
number of days that might find differences.

The more criteria you specify, the fewer results will be found.  Un-check 
blank birth dates, birth locations, and all the other date fields so that 
only birth is being considered.

Take into account Compatible Gender, Ancestral File Number, FamilySearch 
ID if you wish but almost always un-check User ID.

Set the Compatible Parents and the same parameters you used for the 
individual.

Click Continue

Resolve any possible duplicates that are found.

Adjust the parameters to use the death date and blank the birth date.

Resolve any more possible duplicates.

Adjust the parameters to use the burial date and blank the death date.

Resolve any more possible duplicates.

You should have a fairly clean file now.  Additionally you may want to look at 
the Name List sorted by Surname and resolve any possible duplicates you see 
there.

Lastly, look at the Marriage List sorted by Husband, resolve duplicates and 
then sort by Wife and resolve duplicates.

Now only those really hard ones will still remain.  Others may have some tricks 
they've developed for finding additional duplicates.

Then you might want to tackle duplicate marriages, duplicate events, duplicate 
sources, duplicate pictures, etc.  It's all fun.

Ron Taylor


On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:31 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote:



Well, with some digging, it turns out that my example was not valid, but I
think I have some other examples that are.

In my example, the actual missing match was with Ruth Emma Cook and Ruth E.
Cooke. So the surname did not match within 5 characters.

I now spot the following duplicates in my file, which were brought in via
the drag  drop merge of the mothers line:
  - Isaac J. Walker and spouse Angelina Carmon; and Isaac John Walker and
spouse Angeline Carmon.
  - Hannah Ann Walker and spouse Joseph Farquhar; and Hannah Anna H. Walker
and spouse Joseph Farwuhar.

The two Isaacs have births one year apart. The two Hannahs have the same
birth year. They all have the same parents.`

I see no reason why the Isaac/Angelin* couples were not presented as
potential duplicates.

For the Hannah/Joseph couples, the spouse's surname does not match within 5
characters. Certainly the parents could have had two different Hannahs,
although it would be unlikely that both lived to marriage in that case, and
they do have the same birth year. (One has a month and day as well.) Is it a
requirement that the spouse must also be a potential match, for this to be
presented as a potential duplicate? I've had way more far-fetched potential
duplicates presented to me, including twins with different given names.

  Ward

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 1:41 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find Duplicates does not handle middle initials

If that is the case do your Ruth E. and Ruth Emma have the same husband
in both files so they can be considered due to family relationships?

Brian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't get a list of people using a media path

2014-06-13 Thread Ron Taylor
Richard,
I know that you are an experienced Legacy user.  Have you tried 
LtoolsDeluxeFind Unattached Multimedia?  If you un-check Only display 
multimedia files that are unattached then it will produce a list of all the 
multimedia that have links to the database.  The script probably needs to be 
changed to accomodate version 8 sourcing structures.
Ron Taylor


On Friday, June 13, 2014 12:10 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova 
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:



When you: View  Master Lists  Source
you can select any source and Show List to see all who use it.
Same for most other lists.

For Locations you see list of people as soon as you select a location.

However for the Media Folder List the only way I can find to show users is
Options  Delete  View List which seems a bit risky.

Ignoring the risks though I'm not pleased with the results I'm getting.
Some paths show nobody using them, others come up short and wrong people. 
I have 400 paths, (5 samples below)

[Default Media Folder]\Docs\Books\Bay_Settlement_of_Monroe_County\
[Default Media Folder]\Docs\Cemetery\Our_Lady_of_Hope\

[Default Media Folder]\Pictures\vanwasshnova\

https:\\familysearch.org\pal:\MM9.1.1\\

http:\\www.wikitree.com\wiki\\
Does anyone else get good results? Is there another way to find who is using 
any media path?
I know I could move or rename a directory and see who comes up in missing.txt

  --
Richard Van Wasshnova



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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for

2014-06-06 Thread Ron Taylor
Jay,
Check out LtoolsDeluxeMiscCreate Unknown Spouses.  It may be just what 
you've been looking for to fix the phantom spouses.  It was commissioned by Jay 
Wilpolt.  That's not you is it?



On Friday, June 6, 2014 12:04 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:



Ron, 

Sorry for not responding sooner, but this email ended up in my spam folder, 
glad I found it. 

The query worked great and found just what I was looking for, 
those elusive spouses who somehow have remained LIVING, when they certainly are 
no longer with us. 

So thanks for some great code!!     


Now, what about the spouses who dont actually have a spouse with an RIN but 
they have a MRIN?  

As you know, every parenting situation in Legacy is connected to a MRIN, even 
if no persons are connected to that MRIN
So, I have in most cases created a Unknown, Unknown spouse when needed, and 
sure I missed a few, 
Guess I answered my own question here, 
probably best to go catch the empty spouses and create the 'placeholders' 
then rerun your query


And Glad that I found FEWER than you did, but still have almost 600 to review. 

Again, thanks for the great code. 


Jay 

















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This query (run in MS Access or Ltools) will find the spouses you want.  If you 
want both spouses living, change OR in the last line to AND.
If you want birthdate before some other date, change 1920 to what you 
want.  
The query could be changed to an UPDATE and perhaps SET one of the marriage 
tags for use in Legacy.


SELECT tblMR.IDMR,
tblMR.IDIRHusb,  tblIR.Surname, tblIR.GivenName, tblIR.BirthSD, tblIR.Living, 
tblMR.IDIRWife, tblIR_1.Surname, tblIR_1.GivenName, tblIR_1.BirthSD, 
tblIR_1.Living
FROM (tblMR INNER JOIN tblIR ON tblMR.IDIRHusb = tblIR.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblIR 
AS tblIR_1 ON tblMR.IDIRWife = tblIR_1.IDIR
WHERE tblMR.IDIRHusb0 AND tblMR.IDIRWife0 
AND tblIR.BirthSD0 And tblIR.BirthSD1920
AND tblIR_1.BirthSD0 And tblIR_1.BirthSD1920 
AND (tblIR.Living=0 OR tblIR_1.Living=0);





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wrote:



Hoping someone might be able to figure out how I can search for 'living' 
persons whose Spouse is born before 1920.


I dont see any way to use dates against spouses in a selection parameter. 


Thanks in advance for any help


Jay 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 uninstall fails

2014-06-06 Thread Ron Taylor
This has been covered before.  There is a backup of Install.log.  Copy that 
back to the Legacy Family Tree folder and then run Wise Uninstall.  It has 
worked for me.


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Hi all,

A few days ago I reported the problems I was having with the update to
8.0.0.427 on this machine (Win7-x64).
Today I tried uninstalling Legacy8 using control panel. Again I see a
Windows error from the Program Compatibility Assistant, and I selected
the option to use recommended settings. But the program did not
uninstall - it remains listed in Programs and Features. When I try to
uninstall it again, there is a message box which says Could not open
INSTALL.LOG file from Wise Uninstall.

I've done brute force removals of applications before, so I will be
able to clean up my system. I had high hopes for version 8, but my
experience leaves me dismayed and disappointed.

-Stan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for

2014-06-05 Thread Ron Taylor
Kurt, did you try the SQL script that I provided?  It works great.  I found 
about 750 marriages in my database that fit the criteria.  It gave me a good 
pool to check against Find a Grave.  Quite a few of them are now proven to be 
deceased.

One hint that I forgot to mention.  Ltools wants the entire script as one line 
(without CRLF between the lines).  MS Access ignores the line spacing and other 
white space.


On Thursday, June 5, 2014 2:07 PM, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:



That’s a tough one.  Even with Ltools of MS Access or some other way to do a 
direct SQL Query, I’m having difficulty envisioning the structure of that 
query.  It would involve a complex join of the living selected from the 
individuals table with the marriage table to get the spouses and then back to 
the individuals table to get the spousal birth dates.
 
Within Legacy, you can create a search list of ‘living” persons who have spouse 
(spouse surname not equal [blank]).
You could then scroll through the search list, with the family tab showing, 
which will show spouses and their dates of birth, and manually tag the 
applicable records.
 
It could be a tedious task if you have a lot of living individuals in your 
database.
 
From:Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 5:00 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Search for
 
Hoping someone might be able to figure out how I can search for 'living' 
persons whose Spouse is born before 1920.
 
I dont see any way to use dates against spouses in a selection parameter. 
 
Thanks in advance for any help
 
Jay 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for

2014-06-03 Thread Ron Taylor
This query (run in MS Access or Ltools) will find the spouses you want.  If you 
want both spouses living, change OR in the last line to AND.
If you want birthdate before some other date, change 1920 to what you want. 
 
The query could be changed to an UPDATE and perhaps SET one of the marriage 
tags for use in Legacy.

SELECT tblMR.IDMR,
tblMR.IDIRHusb,  tblIR.Surname, tblIR.GivenName, tblIR.BirthSD, tblIR.Living, 
tblMR.IDIRWife, tblIR_1.Surname, tblIR_1.GivenName, tblIR_1.BirthSD, 
tblIR_1.Living
FROM (tblMR INNER JOIN tblIR ON tblMR.IDIRHusb = tblIR.IDIR) INNER JOIN tblIR 
AS tblIR_1 ON tblMR.IDIRWife = tblIR_1.IDIR
WHERE tblMR.IDIRHusb0 AND tblMR.IDIRWife0 
AND tblIR.BirthSD0 And tblIR.BirthSD1920
AND tblIR_1.BirthSD0 And tblIR_1.BirthSD1920 
AND (tblIR.Living=0 OR tblIR_1.Living=0);



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Hoping someone might be able to figure out how I can search for 'living' 
persons whose Spouse is born before 1920.

I dont see any way to use dates against spouses in a selection parameter. 

Thanks in advance for any help

Jay 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Showing relationship on Family Screen

2014-06-02 Thread Ron Taylor
Could you give an example of someone with non-blood relationship more than 10?  
It is hard to imagine what that must be like.  Typically, you may be interested 
in a brother-in-law's father but beyond that what value would it have and why 
are you tracking such distant relationships?


On Saturday, May 31, 2014 5:52 PM, June Chan mai_l...@aapt.net.au wrote:



Is it possible to adjust how many levels of relationships show on the family 
screen. I would like to see the relationships of  people who are not related by 
blood but are related by marriage, even tenusously.
 
I note that when setting relationships it allows for 999 blood relationships to 
show it only allows for 10 non blood - is there a way to change this at all?
 
Thank you
 
June

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Re: [LegacyUG] Combining family files

2014-05-28 Thread Ron Taylor
One caution.  Don't use the / character in your filename.  That can cause 
problems with the operating system.  There are a few other characters that 
should not be used.  See this Microsoft article.

Error Message: Filename is Invalid or Cannot Contain Any of the Following 
Characters


   Error Message: Filename is Invalid or Cannot Contain...
You can rename the system desktop icons (such as My Computer, My
Documents, Internet Explorer, and Network Neighborhood) using the invalid
charac...
View on support.microsoft.com Preview by Yahoo

Ron Taylor 


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On 28 May 2014 13:11, cdmill...@frontier.com wrote:

 I have separate family files that I wish to combine, but still keep the 
 original
 files.  These pertain to grandparents who were both Millers.  The new file 
 would
 be called Miller/Miller, but I would still have the originals named Daniel
 Miller and Mary Miller.  Can someone advise me how to begin?  Sure appreciate
 your help.

Open one of the files. Note that the titlebar reflects the name of the open
file. Now, save it using the combined file name, using the File-- Save File As
command. the titlebar now gives the new combined file name. Next, you can import
the second Legacy file into your new combined file.

--
Regards, Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] two instances of Legacy

2014-05-24 Thread Ron Taylor
Thanks Brian.  I usually only use split screen on 2 files and didn't realize it 
had that limitation.  So the 6 screens are for viewing 1 or 2 files in 6 
windows?  Still is a great feature.  Too bad that ViewMaster Lists and other 
commands cannot leave those windows open for both files at the same time for 
comparisons/updates.




On Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:32 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
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Ron,

Legacy has NEVER allowed more than two databases to be open at the same
time.

Split screen does allow six views but only two databases can be open so
those 6 views will be different sections of the two open databases.

I was not able to find any version of Legacy that advertised 9 views.
The most I could find was 7 in Legacy 4 and 5. Version 6 and above
reduced that to 6 views.

Brian
Customer Support
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br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 23/05/2014 3:53 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
 You don't need 2 menus with split screen.  The active database will have 
 the title bar colored so it is obvious and the other open database window 
 title bars will be dimmed.  Prior versions of Legacy allowed for up to 9 
 databases to be open simultaneously even though it was pretty crowded on 
 screen.  The current help file for version 8 states that up to 6 databases 
 can be open at the same time.

 The active database is the one that the menu will affect.  You can't 
 execute more than 1 menu at the same time anyway so just click the title bar 
 of the window you want to use and then whatever menu commands you want for 
 that window.
 Ron Taylor


 On Friday, May 23, 2014 12:59 PM, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



 With the split screen view you don't get two menus. Legacy will not allow you 
 to open two menus in the same instance of the program to compare anything. I 
 hate that about Legacy actually.



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 Actually, Sherry has posted here within the last 24 or 48 hours to the 
 contrary.  You can have Legacy installed on two computers with the one 
 license.

 Have you looked at the split screen view?  You can have two copies
        of the same file *displayed* on the screen, or two different files
        open side-by-side with that.  If you have two monitors, you can
        stretch the window across both so that one file is on one screen
        and the other on the other screen (or so I recall - never had that
        luxury here, just recall hearing it discussed on this list).

 Hope this helps.  :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy


 Cheryl Rothwell said the following on 24/05/2014 06:28:

 I didn't realize having Legacy installed on more than one computer was a 
 no-no. It was always ok in TMG, just don't use at the same time. (And that 
 could be different since I moved to Legacy several years ago.)



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 On 23 May 2014 20:06, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

 As a possible aid to my conversion of sources, can I
                open the same Legacy
 file on two monitors (same computer) so I can see
                what I have and what I am
 doing?


 Tests I've run show that Legacy is a single-instance program, so the answer to
 your question is, I believe, a resounding NO. However, if
              you have two machines,
 whilst technically violating the licence, you could run
              Legacy on both machines
 at the same time: just for this specific purpose.

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Re: [LegacyUG] two instances of Legacy

2014-05-24 Thread Ron Taylor
One feature that I would like in Split View would be an option to have all the 
screens synchronize on the current individual of the active screen.  That way 
if Family tab were opened on screen1 and Pedigree tab on screen2 and Descendant 
tab on screen3 with Asa Clark Brown as the current individual in the husband 
position of Family tab...then screen2 would be the pedigree for Asa Clark Brown 
and screen3 would show his descendants.  A click on Eleanor Huffman to make her 
the current individual would automatically sync the other windows with her as 
the focus.  This would make simultaneous views of the current individual very 
convenient.  If 2 databases were involved, the synchronization could be driven 
by the Intellishare value if both files have the same origin (or some other 
common identifier).  If there is not a match between the files, then Legacy 
would treat it as it does now without any attempt at synchronization.




On , Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:



Thanks Brian.  I usually only use split screen on 2 files and didn't realize it 
had that limitation.  So the 6 screens are for viewing 1 or 2 files in 6 
windows?  Still is a great feature.  Too bad that ViewMaster Lists and other 
commands cannot leave those windows open for both files at the same time for 
comparisons/updates.




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wrote:



Ron,

Legacy has NEVER allowed more than two databases to be open at the same
time.

Split screen does allow six views but only two databases can be open so
those 6 views will be different sections of the two open databases.

I was not able to find any version of Legacy that advertised 9 views.
The most I could find was 7 in Legacy 4 and 5. Version 6 and above
reduced that to 6 views.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 23/05/2014 3:53 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
 You don't need 2 menus with split screen.  The active database will have 
 the title bar
 colored so it is obvious and the other open database window title bars will be 
dimmed.  Prior versions of Legacy allowed for up to 9 databases to be open 
simultaneously even though it was pretty crowded on screen.  The current help 
file for version 8 states that up to 6 databases can be open at the same time.

 The active database is the one that the menu will affect.  You can't 
 execute more than 1 menu at the same time anyway so just click the title bar 
 of the window you want to use and then whatever menu commands you want for 
 that window.
 Ron Taylor


 On Friday, May 23, 2014 12:59 PM, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



 With the split screen view you don't get two menus. Legacy will not allow you 
 to open two menus in the same instance of the program to
 compare anything. I hate that about Legacy actually.



 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, Sherry has posted here within the last 24 or 48 hours to the 
 contrary.  You can have Legacy installed on two computers with the one 
 license.

 Have you looked at the split screen view?  You can have two copies
        of the same file *displayed* on the screen, or two different files
        open side-by-side with that.  If you have two monitors, you can
        stretch the window across both so that one file is on one screen
        and the other on the other screen (or so I recall - never had that
   
     luxury here, just recall hearing it discussed on this list).

 Hope this helps.  :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy


 Cheryl Rothwell said the following on 24/05/2014 06:28:

 I didn't realize having Legacy installed on more than one computer was a 
 no-no. It was always ok in TMG, just don't use at the same time. (And that 
 could be different since I moved to Legacy several years ago.)



 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23 May 2014 20:06, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

 As a possible aid to my conversion of sources, can I
               
 open the same Legacy
 file on two monitors (same computer) so I can see
                what I have and what I am
 doing?


 Tests I've run show that Legacy is a single-instance program, so the answer to
 your question is, I believe, a resounding NO. However, if
              you have two machines,
 whilst technically violating the licence, you could run
              Legacy on both machines
 at the same time: just for this specific purpose.

 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] two instances of Legacy

2014-05-23 Thread Ron Taylor
You don't need 2 menus with split screen.  The active database will have the 
title bar colored so it is obvious and the other open database window title 
bars will be dimmed.  Prior versions of Legacy allowed for up to 9 databases to 
be open simultaneously even though it was pretty crowded on screen.  The 
current help file for version 8 states that up to 6 databases can be open at 
the same time.

The active database is the one that the menu will affect.  You can't execute 
more than 1 menu at the same time anyway so just click the title bar of the 
window you want to use and then whatever menu commands you want for that window.
Ron Taylor


On Friday, May 23, 2014 12:59 PM, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com 
wrote:



With the split screen view you don't get two menus. Legacy will not allow you 
to open two menus in the same instance of the program to compare anything. I 
hate that about Legacy actually. 



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually, Sherry has posted here within the last 24 or 48 hours to the 
contrary.  You can have Legacy installed on two computers with the one license.

Have you looked at the split screen view?  You can have two copies
  of the same file *displayed* on the screen, or two different files
  open side-by-side with that.  If you have two monitors, you can
  stretch the window across both so that one file is on one screen
  and the other on the other screen (or so I recall - never had that
  luxury here, just recall hearing it discussed on this list).

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Cheryl Rothwell said the following on 24/05/2014 06:28:

I didn't realize having Legacy installed on more than one computer was a 
no-no. It was always ok in TMG, just don't use at the same time. (And that 
could be different since I moved to Legacy several years ago.)



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 23 May 2014 20:06, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

 As a possible aid to my conversion of sources, can I
  open the same Legacy
 file on two monitors (same computer) so I can see
  what I have and what I am
 doing?


Tests I've run show that Legacy is a single-instance program, so the answer to
your question is, I believe, a resounding NO. However, if
you have two machines,
whilst technically violating the licence, you could run
Legacy on both machines
at the same time: just for this specific purpose.

--
Regards, Mike Fry
Johannesburg




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to mass edit Source Detail.

2014-05-22 Thread Ron Taylor
Cathy gave excellent instructions for finding any text in the database using 
Search and Replace.  I use it quite often in exactly the way she described and 
yes it does work.  The search and replace works just about the same way a word 
processor might perform the same function.  Here are the fields that I just 
tried with version 8.0.0.427 (lots of fields are available in the Find where 
pull-down menu).

Find where: Source-Title
Find what: Utah, Utah, 
Replacement text: Utah, Utah, 
Find whole word only - unchecked
Match case - checked
Anywhere in field - radio button set
Replace only found text with replacement text - radio button set

Click Start

Because the replacement text is the same as the find what text, I can click on 
Replace or Skip and nothing is changed.  Or I can make the changes I want 
in the Replacement box.

It definitely would be nice to limit a search and replace to a tagged sub-set.  
We can continue to wish for that.

One more option is to use the Ltools Global Text Search function.

Ron Taylor


On Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:57 PM, magnoliasouth magnoliaso...@gmail.com 
wrote:



On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:51 PM, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is no master.  That's the problem.

Wait, who said there is no master? I'm not following, I guess. I never
said that. There is definitely a master source. In fact, I don't even
know how to add a Source Detail without a Master Source.

Cindy



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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

2014-05-18 Thread Ron Taylor
Are you sure you are not using the Save As versus the Backup Family File?

Save as can append a bracketed number to a filename if the name already exists. 
 The backup will ask if it is alright to overwrite a filename that already 
exists.  The only mystery is that you say the file has .zip extension which 
should indicate a backup.  If you're not doing backup to a file with date and 
time appended, then the same filename will be attempted.  Windows has the 
ability to prevent files from being overwritten and perhaps that is what is 
causing the bracketed number to be appended.  Google bracketed numbers being 
appended to filenames where several articles describe this situation.


On Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:28 PM, ChasH howell...@gmail.com wrote:



If you save some other type file, like a word file do you get the same [1] 
being added to those files?


On 5/18/2014 2:10 PM, elizabeth wrote:

I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time appear after 
the [1]s in each file name.


Elizabeth




On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to 
overwrite the previous backup.
 
In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the bottom 
and ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.
 
 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON
 
From:elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
 
Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
save my file?
EXAMPLE;
john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
save it...and on and on and on.
john.zip
john[1].zip
john[1][1].zip
john[1][1][1].zip
john[1][1][1][1].zip
etc.
 
elizabeth


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Re: [LegacyUG] loading Gedcom file on Mac using Fusion

2014-05-17 Thread Ron Taylor
VMWare Fusion is not the same program as Apple Parallels and Parallels is not 
Parallels Fusion.

Like Leon, I am running Parallels version 9.0.24229 but I am still running 
Windows XP SP3.  It works fine.  I plan to upgrade to Windows 7 or 8 because 
Microsoft is not providing support for XP any longer but the old XP is not the 
issue.

VMWare Fusion current version is 6 so you may want to upgrade that virtual 
machine software to the latest.

Ron Taylor


On Friday, May 16, 2014 3:45 PM, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote:



Rod:

You are 4 generations back in Windows operating system.
You are 5 generations back in Parallels Fusion.

My guess is Legacy 8 has problems with those old systems.
I would recommend you upgrade to at least Windows 7 or 8 and Fusion 9.

The other option is to downgrade Legacy to about Version 4 or 5 to be more like 
your other computer software vintage.

If your Mac computer is similar vintage as your software, you probably lack 
enough memory to be running a virtual machine.  I recommend at least 8GB and 
prefer 16 GB when running VMs on a Mac. 

I would not run the new Windows 7 or 8 with less than 6 or 8 GB in a VM.  Most 
Windows 8 systems come with 8-12 GB of memory today.

The older versions of Fusion does not have current drivers to support a lot of 
the newer software.

I think your basic problem is incompatible / outdated software.


Chap
Sent from my iPad
Leon Chapman
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On May 15, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Rodney Louis Goff rodneyg...@comcast.net wrote:


Leon,


I am running VMware Fusion Version 4.1.4 [900582]
I am running Windows XP Professional as a virtual machine
I am running Legacy Version 8.0.0.425
I have these on a Macbook Air


I was able to create a full GEDCOM file one time but have not been able to do 
it again and cannot create a partial GEDCOM file as Legacy shows I should be 
able to. Any help is appreciated.    Rod


Rodney L Goff
4832 NW Promenade Ter, Suite 421
Portland, OR 97229-0983
503-709-6168


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On May 15, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote:

Rodney:


1st of all, I don't like all the garbage at the end of your email.

Please delete that on all future emails before sending.  Thanks.


I am running Parallels Fusion 9, v.9.0.24229, dated April 1, 2014 on an iMac.

I am running Windows 7 Ultimate as a Virtual Machine in Parallels.
I am running the most current version of Legacy, L8.0.0.425.


I have no problem exporting a GEDCOM file or a Legacy GEDCOM file using the 
Sample database.


What system and versions are you running?  Parallels?  Windows? Legacy?



___
Leon Chapman
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wrote:




I just got off the phone with Legacy and they could not make it work. 
Gedcom file will not load to export. Legacy Deluxe 8 on Macbook Air using 
Fusion has worked seamless until now. I ran export Gedcom but all I see is 
the hourglass and nothing loads. Any ideas.  Thanks,  Rod




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Portland, OR 97229-0983
503-709-6168


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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status

2014-05-16 Thread Ron Taylor
Cheryl,
I haven't seen that combination but if true you could add a new Relationship to 
Parent status of Biological and Adopted.  Now I'll have to watch for that one 
in my research.  Thanks.


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:31 PM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:



Be it known and REMEMBERED that it is not usually /clear/
whether the adoptive status is applicable to both parents or
to one, and if only to one, which?

Some states required the biological parent to co-adopt the
child, thus making the child both biological and adopted.

Cheryl

Ron Taylor wrote:
 Sherry,
 I will send you a detailed example of the step children
 issue. I hope you will take the time to examine and
 understand the scenario so it might get fixed.

 The request to show relationship to parent on family tab has
 been asked before and may already be in the list of
 enhancements wanted. If not, please do push it along. As for
 changing the name of Child Status to Birth Status, that is
 not to urgent but how it is used is important. I see lots of
 users that have added Adopted and other designations to
 the Child Status list just so it will display in the Family
 tab but that can be wrong when it is not both parents that
 have adopted the child. Most of the time, it is one
 biological parent that has re-married and the new spouse
 adopts the children. That is why having the Relationship to
 Parent fields should always be used even if the adoption is
 by both parents so it is consistent. The Child Status that I
 mentioned called Sibling same name is great for those
 families where a name has been used more than once for
 different children. Looking at one of those families, it is
 obvious that the same name was already detected and
 documented versus a mistake in recording.

 Ron Taylor
 On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:13 PM, Sherry/Support
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 If you want to submit suggestion forms on these ideas, Ron,
 I'll pass
 them on to the programmers (one per form please)


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Ron Taylor
 doit4...@yahoo.com mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:
   The Child Status should really be labelled Birth
 Status which would have
   settings like Twin, Triplet, Stillborn, Stillborn Twin,
 Stillborn Triplet,
   and blank (single live birth). In my databases, I have
 added 2 new child
   status: Sibling same name and Sibling same name
 opposite gender. These
   allow me to flag those children in families where they
 had more than one
   child and re-used the name. They should not be merged.
 And there are some
   group sheets where children of different genders have the
 same name probably
   because the compiler did not know which gender was
 correct or there may have
   actually been multiple children with the same name and
 different genders.
  
   The Relationship to Father and Relationship to Mother
 status will have
   settings like Adopted, Foster, and blank (Biological).
 One other
   relationship status that needs some work by Millennia is
 Step. It can be
   used to properly indicate children in a household that
 are from a prior
   marriage of one of the parents. The 1/2 kids function of
 Legacy does not
   distinguish between children of a prior marriage versus
 children of a later
   marriage. Children of a later marriage are not considered
 step children to
   any of the prior marriages.
  
   The relationship status is not displayed (wish it were)
 on the Family tab.
   It can be displayed on reports and the Chronology tab.
  
   Ron Taylor




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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status

2014-05-14 Thread Ron Taylor
The Child Status should really be labelled Birth Status which would have 
settings like Twin, Triplet, Stillborn, Stillborn Twin, Stillborn Triplet, and 
blank (single live birth).  In my databases, I have added 2 new child status:  
Sibling same name and Sibling same name opposite gender.  These allow me to 
flag those children in families where they had more than one child and re-used 
the name.  They should not be merged.  And there are some group sheets where 
children of different genders have the same name probably because the compiler 
did not know which gender was correct or there may have actually been multiple 
children with the same name and different genders.

The Relationship to Father and Relationship to Mother status will have 
settings like Adopted, Foster, and blank (Biological).  One other relationship 
status that needs some work by Millennia is Step.  It can be used to properly 
indicate children in a household that are from a prior marriage of one of the 
parents.  The 1/2 kids function of Legacy does not distinguish between children 
of a prior marriage versus children of a later marriage.  Children of a later 
marriage are not considered step children to any of the prior marriages.

The relationship status is not displayed (wish it were) on the Family tab.  It 
can be displayed on reports and the Chronology tab.

Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:17 PM, Heeren hee...@usit.net wrote:

I use this a bit differently.  I
open the Sources from the person's Family page by clicking on the
little books icon.  Then I scroll down the events list to Father Rel.:
 Mother Rel.:  I add the source I used to prove the child/parent
relationship. 

It's for my own use, I found out years ago I would be looking at a list
of children  wonder where I found that one or this one.  On some I
have a bunch of sources listed...as census...which may show the person
as son or daughter of the head of the family...usually the father. 
The more sources, the better.

This is quicker for me than looking through all the events.



On 5/14/2014 7:06 AM, Merrelyn Bates wrote:
I have been slowly working through Geoff's book and
just discovered the relationship of child to father and mother. Above
that is 'Child Status', which when opened has two categories:
'Stillborn', 'Twin'. I understand that the list can be added to with
other terms, e.g. 'triplet', 'Death shortly after birth', etc. My
question is: Would one normally use this attribute? If so, how? 


Thank you.


Merrelyn Bates

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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status

2014-05-14 Thread Ron Taylor
Sherry,
I will send you a detailed example of the step children issue.  I hope you will 
take the time to examine and understand the scenario so it might get fixed.  

The request to show relationship to parent on family tab has been asked before 
and may already be in the list of enhancements wanted.  If not, please do push 
it along.  As for changing the name of Child Status to Birth Status, that is 
not to urgent but how it is used is important.  I see lots of users that have 
added Adopted and other designations to the Child Status list just so it will 
display in the Family tab but that can be wrong when it is not both parents 
that have adopted the child.  Most of the time, it is one biological parent 
that has re-married and the new spouse adopts the children.  That is why having 
the Relationship to Parent fields should always be used even if the adoption is 
by both parents so it is consistent.  The Child Status that I mentioned called 
Sibling same name is great for those families where a name has been used more 
than once for different children.  Looking at one of those families, it is 
obvious that the same
 name was already detected and documented versus a mistake in recording.

Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:13 PM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

If you want to submit suggestion forms on these ideas, Ron, I'll pass
them on to the programmers (one per form please)


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The Child Status should really be labelled Birth Status which would have
 settings like Twin, Triplet, Stillborn, Stillborn Twin, Stillborn Triplet,
 and blank (single live birth).  In my databases, I have added 2 new child
 status:  Sibling same name and Sibling same name opposite gender.  These
 allow me to flag those children in families where they had more than one
 child and re-used the name.  They should not be merged.  And there are some
 group sheets where children of different genders have the same name probably
 because the compiler did not know which gender was correct or there may have
 actually been multiple children with the same name and different genders.

 The Relationship to Father and Relationship to Mother status will have
 settings like Adopted, Foster, and blank (Biological).  One other
 relationship status that needs some work by Millennia is Step.  It can be
 used to properly indicate children in a household that are from a prior
 marriage of one of the parents.  The 1/2 kids function of Legacy does not
 distinguish between children of a prior marriage versus children of a later
 marriage.  Children of a later marriage are not considered step children to
 any of the prior marriages.

 The relationship status is not displayed (wish it were) on the Family tab.
 It can be displayed on reports and the Chronology tab.

 Ron Taylor



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Re: [LegacyUG] Net access blocked from Legacy

2014-05-05 Thread Ron Taylor
Windows Update may require Microsoft Internet Explorer.  Not a good idea to 
remove IE from a Windows machine.  This Wikipedia article gives a good 
description of why.  


Windows Update - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


   Windows Update - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Windows Update (WU[1]), a service offered by Microsoft, provides updates for 
the Microsoft Windows operating system and its installed components, including 
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On Monday, May 5, 2014 12:23 AM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

The internal Legacy browser does use a form of IE.

Internet stuff from Legacy that opens in the actual browser uses your
default browser or whatever you specify in the Options 11.1

However Legacy Home Tab and the mapping use a form of IE - not sure
which. I suspect on one computer you removed a file or registry entry of
IE that you didn't remove on the other computer.

I find it better to leave the installation of IE alone though I rarely
use it.
I note that it has been patched already for the latest security problem.

Cathy

Boyd Miller wrote:

 Until yesterday my Legacy 8 has run as expected. However I ran File
 maintenance and as it finished a notepad file popped named
 Legacy8Update[1].txt up to say

 8.0.0.414,4 March
 2014,http://legacy-setup.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/,Legacy8Setup.exe,675
 05968,64.4

 If I run this file I get a number of adverts relating to Setup.exe
 errors. This message appears whenever I open Legacy.

 When I try to access the help file I get the index of the help on the
 left with the right side blank, and a text box saying Unable to open
 this internet site. The requested site is either unavailable or cannot
 be found. Please try again later. This is a bit curious because the
 Help file does not come from the net - it is installed. So I cannot
 access the Help files.

 Email (Thunderbird) and internet access (Chrome) to all my usual sites
 and a few other sites appear to be working properly on this computer.
 However I cannot get the Legacy map feature with Master Locations.
 When I try Legacy Home from within the program the headers are there
 but the bulk of the screen is blank with a small dialog box Do you
 want to open this file. LegacyHome.htm.

 A few days ago I removed Internet Explorer (I hope) from this computer
 and from my netbook, but but on this netbook the Legacy Home and the
 map function operate normally. I hope removing IE was not what has
 mucked things up.

 More File Maintenance does not resolve the problem.
 I have tried:
 1. Shutting down and restarted the computer.
 2. Deleting all the USR files.
 3. Uninstalling Legacy but it can't find the install.log,
 4 . Reinstalling Legacy 8 from a new download hoping to create a new
 install.log file but this has not happened. In Program files
 (x86)/Legacy8/Backup there are Install.log dated 28 Nov 13, and
 Install.001 to Install.023. This last is dated 9 Apr 14 so it was not
 created by today's install.
 5. Clearing all browsing data for the last week from Google Chrome
 just in case this problem was something I had imported and held in the
 cache.

 The initial problems are not resolved. Any suggesti ons as to what has
 happened or where to go next?
 Boyd


 
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[LegacyUG] Preposition_English.lst

2014-04-28 Thread Ron Taylor
I posted this last Sunday but it did not show up so here it is again.  Hope it 
goes out this time.

The Preposition_English.lst file is not being copied from Legacy version 7.5 
when updating to version 8.x.  If you have made changes to it in version 7, you 
will want to copy that modified file into the new place where it is stored for 
Legacy 8 which is C:\Users\username\Documents\Legacy Family 
Tree\_AppData\Misc\Preposition_English.lst where username is the name of 
your Windows login account.  If you are still on Windows XP then instead of 
Users it will have Documents and Settings.



HelpHelp IndexSearchPrepositionPrepositions on Locations provides some 
documentation on this feature.

I added Prob  and Probably  to the list of prepositions because they work 
similar to the other entries in the file when viewing the Master Locations 
List. (Note the trailing space)

Each preposition in the file should have a space after it.  The line for Under 
 actually contains 2 spaces after it in the file installed by Legacy and 
therefore that preposition will not work as expected unless an entry in the 
Master Locations List actually has 2 spaces after it.  Each preposition 
including trailing spaces must be an exact match to be detected by the Remove 
common prepositions from locations function in the Sort Location List.  The 
Help button on that tool also describes how prepositions affect the display of 
locations.

A couple of other prepositions that I added to the list are Of ,  and Of,  
(Note the included comma and the trailing space).  There are likely other 
prepositions that you may wish to customize.  The sort routine takes into 
account any exact match of these prepositions and sorts the locations as though 
the preposition was not present but then appends the preposition to the end of 
the sorted location when it is displayed.  This results in all locations with 
the same spelling being displayed together.  Similar logic for the sort can be 
used if the Remove leading bracket from bracketed locations so that they 
too will be sorted as if the brackets were not present.

Ron Taylor


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Re: [LegacyUG] Urgent; need help transferring data to laptop

2014-04-27 Thread Ron Taylor
If you want to transfer all of your Legacy information to another computer, 
always use the backup to zip files on the original computer and then restore 
family file on the target computer.  The media files will backup to another zip 
file.  To restore media to the target computer, you simply unzip all to the C:\ 
directory and the unzip will lay down the media files in the same structure 
they had when the backup was made.
Ron Taylor
On Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:26 AM, Pam Gosling pg...@comcast.net wrote:

Thanks Cathy and Mike so much,

I just opened the computer to see your input and want to clarify both 
instructions so I'm understanding this right;

Yes, I do have Legacy 8 installed, nothing in it yet. I did not make a zip 
file, in my original computer,  I only clicked on the fdb file (with the blue 
dot icon) and selected send to flash drive. Would it be better to make a zip 
or go about this a different way?

Secondly, then, with the data on the stick, I go to File-Open (in the new 
Legacy on the laptop right?), what should I see from there? Any other possible 
issues at that point? Just want to make sure I pick the right options.

Thank you SO MUCH! Pam

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To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Urgent; need help transferring data to laptop

On 27 Apr 2014 09:06, Pam Gosling wrote:

 I have the data on a flash drive, trying to install on a Windows-Mac
 Maverick w/ VM Fusion, Windows 7. The correct file is listed on a
 Cruzer Blade USB flash Drive, shows up in  the  folders on the laptop.

You don't state it specifically, but can we assume that the laptop has Legacy 8 
installed on it? If not and you've got Legacy 7, then you're out of luck. You 
can go from 7 to 8 but not backwards in the opposite direction.

You say you've got the data on the USB drive - but in which format? Legacy 
Backup (ie ZIP file) or Legacy Family File (FDB file). There is a very distinct 
difference.

Assuming the first stumbling block isn't, then if the USB is showing up in the 
Windows part of the laptop, your problems come down to terminology.

Import is generally for getting non-Legacy data into an existing Legacy file.
If you're trying to read a GED file, then you should first create a new, empty 
family file, then import the foreign data.

If the USB stick contains a Legacy Family File, then you need to use the 
File/Open command and bring up a Windows dialog box so that you can navigate to 
the USB stick and find the file.

--
Regards,
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Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Vanishing Spouses?

2014-04-22 Thread Ron Taylor
Please take the time (even if it is tedious on dial-up and even if it requires 
a slow download) to update to the latest release.  Perhaps access the internet 
at your local library or a neighbor with a fast internet and get the update on 
a USB drive.  Many problems have been fixed.  It is un-productive to try to 
help with a version that is out-of-date and the issues may have already been 
resolved by the newest release.  Once you have 8.0.0.414 or later installed, 
ask your question again so that everyone already on that version can test and 
respond.  Not many will be able to test your scenario with an out-dated version 
nor provide solutions that may already have been achieved.
Ron Taylor
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:22 PM, magnoliasouth magnoliaso...@gmail.com 
wrote:

There are some weird glitches. I have a problem where I exclude
certain individuals from potential problems and it stubbornly refuses
to go away. I exit the program, then relaunch and then it's gone.

Now that I think about it, that may have been the problem with my twins issue.

Cindy



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