Re: [LegacyUG] Narrative Report not printing all information

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Terri,

Have you checked the settings for the report you're running? It may be
helpful to reset the settings and start again, if you've made changes from
the defaults - write down what you changed first, so you can set those
again.

Also, do a backup and then run a Check/Repair (File > File Maintenance >
Check/Repair) periodically to keep things healthy in your database.

Also, check that you haven't marked people or events as private by mistake,
or if you've done so on purpose and want to include those in a report,
check the box in the report options to include them.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 10:25 AM Terri White  wrote:

> Hello,
> I am new to Legacy and trying to understand how the software works.
>
> I have family members that have married, divorced and married again.  I
> have entered all the names, dates and places into the software.  However,
> when I print a narrative report, some of the information is missing.  In
> one instance, the narrative only shows the family member name, date of
> birth, etc. It is not printing the married and divorced information.  In
> another instance, the second marriage data is picked up but not the first.
> I have compared all the input screens and it seems all the data has been
> entered correctly.  I can't figure out what I am doing wrong.
>
> Any help in understanding what I am doing wrong will be appreciated.
>
> Terri
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Sources search list: type = "book"

[Wendy Howard]

Have you tried the Source Citation Report?

View > Master Lists > Source > Options > Print

or

Reports > Other Reports > Source Citations...

Play with the options available, it might do what you're looking for.

Wendy

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:14 AM Gene Wheeler  wrote:

> Is it possible to create a list of master sources whose type equals
> "book"? If so, how is it done? I need a list of all such books so I can
> better add all the source detail I possibly can, including a link to an
> online viewable copy of these such books, where available. Thanks!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Wendy Howard via LegacyUserGroup]

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
for their subscription.

Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.--- Begin Message ---
No-one at Legacy has said that a decision has been made to not update the
mapping feature.

Legacy has been saying all along that they are working on a solution.  It
is taking time.  No-one knows how long it is going to take before there is
a working solution available.

Wendy


From: ltsjdad 
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 10:05:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function
>
> It would have been very helpful if a notice had been posted by Legacy to
> this list when the decision was made to not update the mapping program.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Recording DNA Results

[Wendy Howard]

I do much as Cathy has described, and I've also recently started adding
another step - I share the DNA event with other matches.

First up, I record a DNA event for the person who I've matched with. Then I
share that event with myself, and anyone else I recognise in our shared
matches (who are also named in the event as shared matches with that
person). That way, I can see at a glance who matches with who if I'm
looking around my tree later on and forgotten that connection. I've created
a role called Match for the person who this person has a DNA match with
(usually me at this stage, I don't handle/manage other people's kits yet),
and one called Shared Match.

It does make for a rather long list of events in my own record, but that
doesn't bother me.  When I'm sharing data with other people I never share
more than first and last name for any living people, so those events are
never going to be accidentally shown to anyone else in a report.

Hope that gives you some food for thought.  :-)

BTW, Gedmatch aren't included in the list at Legacy because they don't do
their own testing; they 'only' analyse the results of tests from other
companies.

Wendy

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:51 PM Cathy Pinner  wrote:

>
>
> Gail,
> If you've looked at your autosomal DNA results you will realise that you
> can't enter them in the same way as you can enter Y or mtDNA tests. The
> results are about 5 MB of text not just a few values.
>
> So enter Events and, if you want, link to the DNA file you download.
>
> I have a DNA test event that I add to people I discover have tested. I
> record who they've tested with there. I also hashtag them with DNA test. I
> guess I could have multiple hashtags for the various sites.
>
> I have a DNA match event where I record notes about the match - number of
> cM etc though I'm using DNA Painter now more for that information where it
> is sorted in useful groups.
>
> I also have a series of hashtags so I can see the verified line between me
> and the match. I do that like this:  With DNA matches I'm using the
> Relationship Calculator to find the path back to the MRCA (most recent
> common ancestor) for me and the match and then clicking the Options button
> on the Relationship Calculator to tag the people on an empty tag #.
> Then I go to the Name List. Click Search - Show all tagged # and then
> assign a hashtag to them. eg MRCA - CLARK-CRAIG with the full names of the
> ancestors in the hashtag description if necessary.  This is similar to what
> Michele describes here "
> http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html
> "
> I also have another hashtag I attach to people who have done a DNA test.
> So a search for those with Hashtag DNA test AND one of my MRCA hashtags
> tells me how many people I have to help verify the line. eg to CLARK-CRAIG
> I have only one (few of my Clark relations seem to have tested) but for the
> generation back CRAIG-HOUSTON, I have 5, not including me.
>
> When I'm happy a direct ancestor has been confirmed via DNA matches I'm
> using the AFN box to record that. There's good help in the WikiTree help on
> what is required for DNA verification.
>
> Cathy
>
> Gail Vincent wrote:
>
>
> Hello,  I have the Deluxe version and want to enter all my DNA
> Autosomal matches from Ancestry. When I go into the “Available Tests”,
> this is not listed – there are only tests which Ancestry no longer
> offer.I don’t want to test just my matrilineal line and have only had
> one male tested for a patrilineal line. It was too disappointing to
> test any more uncles.
>
> Thank goodness that my Excel spreadsheets generally meet my needs so
> far, but it should also be possible to use Legacy for DNA results,
> with the amount of shared dna and to be able to run reports just for
> the matches.I notice that the FamilyTree DNA tests include up to the
> Y_DNA 111 Marker, so I’m surprised that it is updated but Ancestry is
> not.Also, why isn’t GEDMATCH listed as an available "test"?I plan to
> start using that more in the next few months so that I can use DNA
> Painter etc.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gail Vincent
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] splitting the tree

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Gloria,

"Does that size limit include what's in each individual's Media Gallery? I
have many certificates attached to each person in my tree."

The size of those individual files attached to you tree does not affect the
size of your Legacy file, as it's only the path to that file that is stored
- not the file itself.

But, the more links, events, notes, etc, in your file, the larger the
Legacy file.  Every character stored takes up its own space.  A file with a
large number of individuals but few events and notes can be smaller than a
file with fewer people but lots of events and notes and other information.

Having said that, it is probably quite rare that anyone comes up against
the size limit.  I think, in the 15 years I've been using Legacy and been
involved in this mailing list, I've heard one (maybe two) people say they
had to split their file because it was literally too big to continue as it
was.  (As opposed to people who say their file is too big, but the reality
is they are having difficulty in their own heads about navigating around
it, not that the program is struggling with the size.)

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:08 AM Gloria DeSousa  wrote:

> Does that size limit include what's in each individual's Media Gallery? I
> have many certificates attached to each person in my tree.
>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
>
>> What do you consider too big? Is your .fdb anywhere near
>> 2 GB? That's the size limit.
>> Have you got 300,000 people or more? People have Legacy databases that
>> big.
>>
>> It's possible depending on your project but I'd check before thinking of
>> splitting.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of Legacy files

[Wendy Howard]

You can store your Legacy data file and associated media files anywhere you
like. They don't have to stay in the default location.

I keep mine in a Dropbox folder.

Note that if you delete the default folders, they may be recreated when
Legacy needs to use them, and you may lose some settings changes you've
made along the way.  There is a hidden folder in the Legacy Family Tree
folder which may not be visible to you, depending on the settings on your
computer (this is a Windows setting, not Legacy).

If you want to move your data and media files, please read this article
from Legacy Support -
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00505/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Moving-Your-Family-File-From-One-Computer-to-Another.html

Wendy

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:52 PM Gary Crull 
wrote:

> I have two physical HD's on my computer. I try to keep my "C" drive for
> the operation system and  use the  2nd physical HD for all other working
> files, photos, documents etc etc.
>
> I notice in the LOCATIONS tab in customizing the default path(s) for
> Legacy are as follows:
> C:\Legacy Genealogy Families\Data
> C:\Legacy Genealogy Families\Media
>
> Can these locations be changed to a similar path on my "D" drive and
> Legacy still function properly with regards to backups, synchronizing with
> another computer using DROPBOX, SUGARSYNC or other syncing programs?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] I have legacy group on Facebook now, how do I just stop the email?

[Wendy Howard]

Hi tamaram1,

Do you want to stop receiving the mail from this mailing list?  Then click
on the link at the bottom of every list post next to "To manage your
subscription and unsubscribe...".

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Is this a proper gedcom file

[Wendy Howard]

When were you asked this?  When you were importing it into Legacy, or 
something else?


If you're importing it into Legacy, I can't see that there's any harm in 
saying 'no' and seeing what happens - at worst, it doesn't work and you 
have to start again.  Make sure you are importing it into a new, empty, 
file, so it does not get an opportunity to affect your other data 
file(s) until you're ready to combine them.


File > New File > Import From Another Program > A different program (via 
GEDCOM) > Next Step > ...


Wendy

Valerie Garton wrote on 15/01/2018 14:54:

I am still trying to do this and I am now asked " is this a multiple disk
gedcom file ". I don't know the answer so do I say yes or no or have to go
back to the not so helpful owner ?

Cheers from Valerie Garton [nee Vaughan] in sunny Sydney

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Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 10:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is this a proper gedcom file

GEDCOM files are plain text, so you can open them in any word processor or
notepad program, such as Microsoft Word, OpenOffice Writer, or Windows
Notepad.

The first few lines will look something like this one, which I created from
Legacy:

0 HEAD
1 SOUR Legacy
2 VERS 9.0
2 NAME Legacy (R)
2 CORP Millennia Corp.
3 ADDR PO Box 9410
4 CONT Surprise, AZ 85374
1 DEST Legacy
1 DATE 20 Jun 2017

You'll be able to see people's names and other text displayed in various
lines, along with other lines that will seem to be gobbledegook but contain
information that relates to the people named.

1 NAME William /Hargreaves/
2 GIVN William
2 SURN Hargreaves
2 SOUR @S3@

So if you can open this .ged file you've been sent in an appropriate program
and see similar lines, you have a GEDCOM file, which you should be able to
IMPORT into Legacy.

It's good practice to import files like this into a new Legacy file before
merging the data with your existing file.  You may want to look at things
like Locations, and tidy them up to the way you record them before taking
the data further.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy
(in a sunny/cloudy/windy Kaiwaka, New Zealand, thankfully a cooler summer's
day to some we've had recently, not yet over 30C at midday Monday).

Valerie Garton wrote on 15/01/2018 11:34:

I have been having trouble getting a gedcom file from a fellow
researcher who has been telling me on numerous occasions that her file
is a gedcom one and for me to " read up on how to add it to my program
- the file was " DNA File.rmgc (1mg) ". Yes obviously a rootsmagic
file and not a gedcom one.

Finally I have been sent this file : " DNA File.ged (31KB) " which is
meant to be her family back 6 generations ?

Can I have your comments please and please add more questions if I
have confused you.

Cheers from Valerie Garton [nee Vaughan] in sunny Sydney


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Re: [LegacyUG] Is this a proper gedcom file

[Wendy Howard]

GEDCOM files are plain text, so you can open them in any word processor 
or notepad program, such as Microsoft Word, OpenOffice Writer, or 
Windows Notepad.


The first few lines will look something like this one, which I created 
from Legacy:


0 HEAD
1 SOUR Legacy
2 VERS 9.0
2 NAME Legacy (R)
2 CORP Millennia Corp.
3 ADDR PO Box 9410
4 CONT Surprise, AZ 85374
1 DEST Legacy
1 DATE 20 Jun 2017

You'll be able to see people's names and other text displayed in various 
lines, along with other lines that will seem to be gobbledegook but 
contain information that relates to the people named.


1 NAME William /Hargreaves/
2 GIVN William
2 SURN Hargreaves
2 SOUR @S3@

So if you can open this .ged file you've been sent in an appropriate 
program and see similar lines, you have a GEDCOM file, which you should 
be able to IMPORT into Legacy.


It's good practice to import files like this into a new Legacy file 
before merging the data with your existing file.  You may want to look 
at things like Locations, and tidy them up to the way you record them 
before taking the data further.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy
(in a sunny/cloudy/windy Kaiwaka, New Zealand, thankfully a cooler 
summer's day to some we've had recently, not yet over 30C at midday Monday).


Valerie Garton wrote on 15/01/2018 11:34:


I have been having trouble getting a gedcom file from a fellow 
researcher who has been telling me on numerous occasions that her file 
is a gedcom one and for me to " read up on how to add it to my program 
- the file was " DNA File.rmgc (1mg) ". Yes obviously a rootsmagic 
file and not a gedcom one.


Finally I have been sent this file : " DNA File.ged (31KB) " which is 
meant to be her family back 6 generations ?


Can I have your comments please and please add more questions if I 
have confused you.


Cheers from Valerie Garton [nee Vaughan] in sunny Sydney



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship question

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Rolf,

If you look at the Marriage/Relationship Information window, you'll see 
a box that can be checked for "This couple did not marry" - in your 
situation, I'd check that box.


You can also click on the Wording Options tab and choose your own terms 
of choice.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Rolf Maxa wrote on 12/11/2017 12:29:

I have a female family member on my tree, This person had a one night affair 
and she had a child from this. My question is do I link these two people, or do 
I show them as two individuals with the child linked to both?  I don’t want 
this to show as a partnership on any reporting.
I would appreciate any help.
Rolf

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Re: [LegacyUG] why can't I change email address, eliminate this and use the one I tried

[Wendy Howard]

When you joined this mailing list, you should have received an email 
with the subject line "Welcome to the "Legacyusergroup" mailing list", 
which you should have kept safe as it contains useful information.


One of the useful bits of information in that email is a link to where 
you can change your settings/options for the mailing list, and it's 
customised to your own subscription.


Take out that customisation, and you get a generic link that anyone 
subscribed to the list can use - 
http://legacyusers.com/mailman/options/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com/


If you don't know your own password, you can have a reminder sent to you 
from that page, too.


You can change your subscribed email address here, instead of 
unsubscribing with the old address and subscribing with the new one as 
Joyce described, which is a valid path of action too.


BTW, it's more helpful to tell us what steps you took, than to say "I 
followed directions" - we can't tell from that what you actually did, to 
try to work out what went wrong.


Wendy

Joyce Herzog wrote on 31/10/2017 05:08:

I don't know what is the problem, but it should be as simple as
subscribing using the new email address and once that is established
you can safely unsubscribe from the old address.

Joyce

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:58 AM, carol brundage
 wrote:

I followed directions. Nothing happens.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Media not down-loading/adding to person

[Wendy Howard]

Are you sure that there isn't a window open in Legacy that is simply not 
visible to you at that moment?  That is often the cause of what appears 
to be a freeze.


Try using Alt-Tab to cycle through your open windows - hold your left 
thumb on the Alt key, and tap the Tab key as many times as you need to 
cycle through the open windows until you get to the one you're looking 
for (or get back to where you started). When you're where you want to 
be, let go of the Alt key.  To cycle "backwards", hold down the Shift 
key as well.


Alternatively, take your cursor to the taskbar (usually at the bottom of 
the screen, though it can be set elsewhere), and hover over the Legacy 
icon. Exactly what you see depends on the version of Windows you're 
using, but they're mostly similar. Do you see the window you're 
currently using, or a different one? Click on it to go to that window.


If this doesn't solve your problem, would you tell us *exactly* what 
you're doing when you encounter this behaviour, please? It may help us 
pinpoint what is going on.


Wendy


Jennifer Hardess wrote on 19/09/2017 19:15:


I am using Legacy 8, and am recently having trouble adding media to 
individuals in the media gallery. The legacy page freezes and I have 
to cntrl/alt/delete to get it started again, consequently losing all 
my pages open on the internet also. If I haven’t saved the most recent 
work in conjunction with the media on legacy I lose that too.


Is this a known problem, or am I not doing it correctly? I used not to 
have any problems adding media.


Thanks for advice,

Jen H.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestion for Too Many Emails

[Wendy Howard]

> I've just joined Legacy UG and already being swamped.
> I have a G-mail account - how do I change from my normal
> email and get UG mail to go to the G-mail?

Did you keep the "welcome" email that was sent to you when you first 
joined this mailing list?  There is a link in that to your account 
settings, and you can change your email address there.  That email also 
tells you your password, if you've not changed it since.


If you didn't keep that email, you can go to 
http://legacyusers.com/mailman/options/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com 
and log in there.  There's a password reminder, and an unsubscribe 
button, there too.


You could manage your emails better, so you don't feel swamped by the 
list mail, instead of changing your subscribed address. Most 
services/programs have filters (or rules) that let you identify list 
mail (ie, mail sent TO the list address), and then move that mail away 
from the Inbox. I wrote some instructions for another mailing list years 
ago, which can be adapted to any mailing list - you'll find them at 
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/How-to.htm#RuleFilter


The advantage of using a filter like this, instead of changing email 
addresses, is that you don't have to remember to go check that other 
address. It is all there in the one account, with the list mail away 
from your personal mail so you can ignore it and get on with other 
things until you're ready to concentrate on it.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Judith Slaughter wrote on 12/09/2017 13:20:
I've just joined Legacy UG and already being swamped.  I have a G-mail 
account - how do I change from my normal email and get UG mail to go 
to the G-mail?


Judith

-- Original Message --
From: "Gordon Small" >
To: "Legacy User Group" >

Sent: 12/09/2017 1:19:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestion for Too Many Emails

I agree. I've been doing this for years. I use gmail for Legacy and 
it saves all the frustration of having dozens of emails coming in to 
my personal email every day and having to sort through them all. I 
usually look at my gmail account once a day, scan the topics, and 
just view the ones I want to look at. Eazy Peazy.


On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Jill A Baty > wrote:


Create an email using gmail or yahoo that is only dedicated for
Legacy User Group.

Don't look at it until you need to.  Then either ask a question,
or search through the previous emails to find your answer.

I use this approach with my "advertisement email".  It's
dedicated to ads.  I never look at it until I'm going to a store
or shopping for something in particular.  Then I search and see
if there are any coupons availble.

Best Regards,
Jill



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Re: [LegacyUG] Can I close a file without saving it?

[Wendy Howard]

Sorry, Pat - changes are saved along the way, each time you click on a 
Save button.


If you're still at that point, click on the Cancel button instead to 
back out without changing the alterations made since that window was opened.


If you're past that point, your only option will be to restore a 
backup.  File > Restore.  Note that you are given the opportunity to 
rename the new file, so you can make it different to your current file 
to prevent it from being overwritten.


Wendy

Pat Hickin wrote on 12/09/2017 11:57:

Help!! Can I close a file without saving it? If so, how?

Thanks,

Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsubscribe, please!!

[Wendy Howard]

If you don't know how to set a filter in Gmail to do this, or in any 
other email program/service you're using, there will be instructions in 
the Help files for that program/service to show you how. Microsoft call 
them rules, instead of filters, but they're the same thing - 
instructions on what to do with your incoming mail.


I also wrote some instructions for another mailing list and put them on 
my web site years ago. You can adapt it to any mailing list. 
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/How-to.htm#RuleFilter


Using a filter this way takes the mailing list mail out of your Inbox, 
so it's not mixed up with your personal mail, and keeps it out of the 
way until you are ready to read it.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Charlene C wrote on 11/09/2017 05:29:
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Sandi Koscak 
> wrote:


Thats too bad, I am ready to unsub because i get too many emails .



Digests are a nuisance. People respond to a message and don't dont 
trim post. Therefore, the entire digest gets sent to the entire list. 
After several replies you've got multiple copies of the digest getting 
sent every time and one hot mess. And even if someone does properly 
trim, it breaks the message threading for everyone.


I noticed you have a Gmail accountl. The easiest solution is to create 
a filter that puts all the list's messages under the same label 
(folder). You can tell it to bypass the inbox so it keeps the inbox 
uncluttered.


Charlene


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location list, Place names

[Wendy Howard]

You need to decide for yourself if you are going to conform to the 
four-field convention for locations, or not.  There are good arguments 
for both.


I'm a non-conformist in this regard.  I use as many commas as are needed 
to record the place I have at hand at the time, and I don't use commas 
to mark an empty field.  This means I have locations recorded with 
variations in the number of fields, including simple a country:


England
New Zealand

or just a region/county and country:

Yorkshire, England
Waikato, New Zealand

or even down to a street address (since I choose to not use the Address 
fields in many cases):


126 Mays Road, St Albans, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
125 Great Saffron Hill, Holborn, London, England
4 Wellington Court, Albion Road, Hammersmith, London, England

When you're looking at the Master Locations, you can choose to sort 
right-to-left (smallest unit first), or left-to-right, which is very 
handy for grouping together all the locations in the same country, then 
the same region/county/state (depending on the country in question).


Have a think about what YOU want to see in YOUR database, and work from 
there.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Jennifer Hardess wrote on 2/04/2017 13:27:


I am trying to tidy up my locations / place name list. I notice that 
if I only have 2 or 3 names in a sequence e.g. London, England or 
Horsham, Victoria, Australia I end up with a comma or two before the 
place in the master location list. I have my


Master location list starting with the Country e.g. England. I need 
advice as  to how I can eradicate that comma. Is there a “standards list”


I can refer to somewhere? Especially for England...do I add the county 
name or whatever? I have tried looking up the place name on the 
internet e.g. using Wikipedia but often “Hundred” or borough is quoted 
in the information.


I am in Australia & it is very confusing, & time-consuming!

Thanks, Jen Hardess




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Re: [LegacyUG] Test Message

[Wendy Howard]

What "fixes" would they be?

It is not a matter of something not working the way it should that 
prevents images being included in posts to this list - it is the rules 
of this list itself.


There are ways to work around this restriction, by uploading any images 
somewhere, and then including a link to them in your post.


Wendy

CE WOOD wrote on 2/04/2017 07:49:


I couldn't agree more! It's a real shame they did that instead of 
making the easy fixes to this list whereby screen shots are safe.





CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of Hot.Rod.Wife 

*Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:40 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Test Message
The list is a lot quieter than it use to be.  Once they started the 
Facebook page, this list really dropped off.  The Facebook page is too 
chaotic for me.


Sherry



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S


 Original message 
From: Donald Quigley 
Date: 4/1/17 12:32 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Test Message

??? haven’t rec’d any messages since Wednesday ???

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree 



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Re: [LegacyUG] windows 10 won't allow Legacy install. Help!

[Wendy Howard]

Download the free program direct from the Legacy web site.  It has the 
added advantage of being the most up-to-date build of the program, 
whereas the disk will be what was the latest when it was created many 
months ago and you'd need to update anyway if you installed of it.


http://legacyfamilytree.com/

Once you've installed, enter your Deluxe number to unlock the extra 
features you paid for.


Wendy

Dorothy Kane wrote on 19/03/2017 01:38:
I'm attempting to install Legacy 8 from a disk on a new computer, 
Windows 10. I continue to get an error message "This app has been 
blocked for your protection. An administrator has blocked this app for 
your protection"


Any suggestions?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Export from findmypast.co.uk Import to legacy

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Mike,

Have you followed the instructions on the FMP web site?  I found them 
just now at 
http://www.findmypast.com/frequently-asked-questions/answer/can-i-make-a-copy-of-my-tree-export-a-gedcom-file


From what it says there, I would expect the downloaded GEDCOM file to 
turn up in your default folder for downloads - probably the one called 
simply Downloads if you've not changed it to something else.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Mike Heseltine wrote on 16/03/2017 00:26:
It should be possible to export a gedcom file from findmypast which I 
can then import to legacy. The export appears to complete but I cannot 
find the resulting downlaod on my computer. Using the import facility 
in Legacy five gedcom files are found (not the ones I want). Whichever 
of the five I select Legacy always goes to the same one to open.

Any ideas.

Mike Heseltine





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[LegacyUG] Address for problems (was: Exporting a range of RINs)

[Wendy Howard]

If you want assistance from your fellow Legacy users, this is the place 
to send them.


Yes, there will be emails that are of no interest to you - that is the 
nature of mailing lists. You are free to delete unread any posts that do 
not attract you, but know that if you do so you may miss out on learning 
about features currently unknown to you. It's your choice. :-)


If you want help specifically from Legacy staff, write to them directly. 
You'll find email addresses on their web site.


Hope this helps.

Wendy

G.C E wrote on 5/07/2016 14:19:

Hi, is there a separate email address that could be used for problems! A lot of 
these emails I have been getting are of no use.

Sorry to be a nag but these block up my inbox. I would unsubscribe but then I 
wouldn't receive the magazine.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial shown on Family Group Sheet

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Willie,

By "on my family group sheet", I take it you mean on the screen in 
Legacy when in Family View? You should watch the video at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/qvideos/Labels.html - it shows you how 
to do what you're looking for.


To find this answer for you, I went to the Legacy web site 
(http://legacyfamilytree.com/), and then clicked on Help Centre in the 
blue menu bar near the top of the page. That took me to 
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/ where there are many articles on 
how to do things in Legacy.


A search of "family view" - with the quote marks so the two words are 
treated as a phrase - brought up lots of results, the very first one 
being titled "Customize Family View", which takes you to a short article 
at 
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00987/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Customize-Family-View.html, 
and the link to the video is in that article.


Note that there are many different fields you can choose to display 
instead of the defaults.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Willie McColloch wrote on 2/07/2016 09:14:
I would like to show on the screen on my family group sheet.  How do I 
do this?






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Re: [LegacyUG] spouses listed twice

[Wendy Howard]

It sounds like you have this couple incorrectly linked twice.

Look at them In Family View.  Notice the icons along the bottom, how 
many spouses do they each have?


I've taken a screenshot of the Sample file in Family view* (see link 
below, we're not allowed to post images in this list). When I took that 
shot, the cursor was hovering over the spouse icon, the first icon on 
the left of the husband, and that's what the pop-up text box relates to.


The icon tells us that Asa Clark BROWN has two wives, and the pop-up 
tell us who they are. In the same image, you can see that Eleanor 
HUFFMAN had two husbands, too.


Click on the spouse icon to bring up the Spouse List** to see who that 
person's spouses are. If the same spouse is listed twice and shouldn't 
be, there's a button there to unlink them.


Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

* 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u5zrqqd4430sjgp/Screenshot%202016-06-30%2012.41.18.png?dl=0
** 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kb2v9idj1gkzzgf/Screenshot%202016-06-30%2012.44.57.png?dl=0


Willie McColloch wrote on 30/06/2016 08:05:
I am a user of about two months so I need a great deal of help. In the 
family group sheet I have the husband listed twice with the wife and 
then as other spouse.  This spouse is the same person.





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Re: [LegacyUG] User Documentation

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Angela,

On top of what Cathy has told you, you should also watch the free 
"Legacy for Beginners" video, which you'll find at 
http://legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp


I showed this video to my local genealogy group some years back, and 
even the seasoned veterans who had been using Legacy extensively for 
several years learned something new.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Cathy Pinner wrote on 29/05/2016 15:16:

Angela,

Certainly consistency is the key. You might want a dummy person in 
your file called Consistency for keeping examples of what you decide 
to do. As an unlinked person they do no harm to your data and if you 
make them Invisible they won't appear when you export a file unless 
you override that Privacy setting.


One of the best resources for learning to use Legacy is Geoff 
Rasmussen's Legacy Unlocked book available currently only as a PDF. It 
was based on the Watch Geoff Live webinars.

Other great resources are the Webinars specifically on Legacy see
http://familytreewebinars.com/legacy_videos.php
To see the Watch Geoff Live ones you need a subscription but many of 
the others are free.


I don't think anything does what you are asking in any systematic way. 
You'll find discussions of particular data entry issues including the 
pros and cons of vari ous options in the archives of this mailing list 
and on the Legacy User Group Facebook page.


Cathy

Angela Samen wrote:


I’m new to legacy and the software seems to have many ways to record
the same type of information which is great for those that like
options. I want to make sure I record the same types of data the same
way each time for consistency, plus I got a little confused when
trying to add new sources for data that is cited. Is there a
particular book or resource that explains the ins and out of legacy
and the pros and cons of different ways to record things?

Angela


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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Storage

[Wendy Howard]

Thank you to Jennifer and Norris for replying with further details that 
clarified the situation. I'm not surprised to hear that they're dropping 
the XP version.


Wendy

Norris Taylor wrote on 23/05/2016 06:01:

That's for users with Windows XP only. See:

https://www.dropbox.com/help/9227




On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net 
<mailto:hayes...@telkomsa.net>> wrote:


On 22 May 2016 at 19:38, Wendy Howard wrote:

> Why do you say that Dropbox is going to stop working in August,
please?  Can
> you point to an announcement from Dropbox?

I received an e-mail message from DropBox saying that they are
pulling the
plug on 29 August.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Local Groups

[Wendy Howard]

And maybe others contacted the original poster directly, instead of 
posting to the list? Or had no desire to make contact with fellow 
countrymen? You certainly can't assume anything by the number of replies 
to the list. ;-)


Wendy
New Zealand

David wrote on 23/05/2016 10:50:


That makes 4.

Using Legacy in the Home Counties for over 10 years, but no expert!

Regards

Dave

On 22/05/2016 23:16, Alex MacPhee wrote:

Also usinjg Legacy deep in the steamy rainforests of Surrey, England!

Alex



Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:38:56 +
From: m...@cmy.org.uk
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Local Groups

Neither assumption is correct!
Mary Young
Edinburgh, Scotland

On 11 Mar 2016 1:11 p.m., "Phil Lamb" > wrote:


Looks as though there are just 2 people in the UK using this
programme then. Either that or they are all experts and need no help.

Phil

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[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of
*Maureen Shram
*Sent:* 07 March 2016 19:30
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com

*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Local Groups

I would love to find other users of Legacy in UK, particularly in
East Midlands, Northamptonshire area

Maureen Shram (located Kettering)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Storage

[Wendy Howard]

Why do you say that Dropbox is going to stop working in August, please?  
Can you point to an announcement from Dropbox?


Wendy

Steve Hayes wrote on 21/05/2016 20:55:
Unfortunately Dropbox will stop working in August, so I'll have to 
revert to flash drives and batch files to transfer my working files 
from my desktop to my laptop and vice versa, and will lose my off-site 
backup as well.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Wendy Howard]

I'm thinking of doing this so I can display *on the screen* (as much as 
in reports) the information I am sure is the most correct. Putting it in 
the Research Notes will not assist with this.


It might be that one day I will find a source that tells me all of the 
parts that I've gleaned bit-by-bit from a variety of sources, and then I 
would replace my assumption/combination, maybe delete the 
assumption/combination altogether (though I've yet to think that 
through, I may choose to keep it as an indication of progress of my 
research through time).


In any case, everything would be sourced as it was recorded, so anyone 
looking at my information would know what came from where. I make great 
use of the "Alt." events in Legacy for recording variations in data, and 
it's all sourced.


Wendy

Steve Hayes wrote on 18/04/2016 14:37:

On 18 Apr 2016 at 14:15, Wendy Howard wrote:


I've been thinking about creating a souce for "assumptions based on
available information - check the alternatives", or something similar.
So that I can enter information in the vital event fields that is
combined from a number of different sources, all of which is recorded in my
database.

For example, I might have one source that tells me the date of birth,
and another that tells me the place of birth. But nothing that gives me
both together. I think if I had a name scenario as you described, I
would use the same method.

Perhaps that is something you need to put in the "Research Notes" -- explain
to yourself (and anyone coming to your research after you) why you came to a
particular conclusion.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Wendy Howard]

I've been thinking about creating a souce for "assumptions based on 
available information - check the alternatives", or something similar.  
So that I can enter information in the vital event fields that is 
combined from a number of different sources, all of which is recorded in 
my database.


For example, I might have one source that tells me the date of birth, 
and another that tells me the place of birth. But nothing that gives me 
both together. I think if I had a name scenario as you described, I 
would use the same method.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Rob Miller wrote on 18/04/2016 00:27:

In my family I have the surname BROTHERIDGE.

Throughout all their documents, it can be recorded as BROTHERIDGE, 
BLOTHERIDGE, BOTHERIDGE.


One of my ancestors is Joseph BROTHERIDGE. For him the surname surname 
BROTHERIDGE is never used.


So, this means, his AKA's have plenty of sources, but the name Joseph 
BROTHERIDGE is never completely sourced. (I've sourced this first name 
(using the *Joseph *BLOTHERIDGE and *Joseph *BOTHERIDGE documents). 
But I am unable to source the full name of Joseph BROTHERIDGE.


Hoping my explanation makes sense. What do people do in this instance?

Many thanks!

Rob


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Re: [LegacyUG] "wife of 2nd great grandfather"

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Kathy,

I expect what Cathy has suggested will solve your problem. Please let us 
know how you get on with it.


Legacy does not calculate relationships on the fly any more, as it did 
in previous versions. It's too complicated, and would slow the program 
down considerably. It can do some, but will lose track eventually.


So you need to redo Set Relationships periodically, to refresh and 
recalculate.


Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Cathy Pinner wrote on 21/03/2016 15:23:

Two things to try:
1) Reset relationships (Tools - Set Relationships)
If that doesn't work
2) check that there aren't two of her or two relationships between her 
and your 2nd great grandfather.


Cathy

Kathy Meyer wrote:


What have I set up incorrectly?  Shouldn't this be "2nd great
grandmother" instead of "wife of 2nd great grandfather"; I even went
in and marked 'biological child' on their child, my 'great
grandmother'.  Others in my tree show '2nd great grandmother' as the
label, so it's not an across the board issue.

It makes it seem like the 'wife' is not my direct ancestor but perhaps
a 2nd wife.  And I do not have any other spouses for either of them.

Thanks for any clues you can give me on this,
Kathy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mailman privacy alert

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Rick,

I'm sending a copy of this reply directly to you as well as to the list, 
so others know I've been in touch.


Your email below reached the list, so you must be subscribed.

If you are having difficulties with accessing the list, write to the 
admin via legacyusergroup-ow...@legacyusers.com and you will reach 
someone who can help you.


Kind Regards,
Wendy

Rick Childrey wrote on 17/03/2016 13:39:
I have tried to resubscribe to the legacy user group because I 
received an email that said I was being unsubscribed due to too many 
bounces for my email address. My email address is valid. Also, I have 
not received any emails from the legacy user group since March 12. I 
just want to be sure I am subscribed.


Rick Childrey

-Original Message- From: legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
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To: rwchild...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Mailman privacy alert

An attempt was made to subscribe your address to the mailing list
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com.  You are already subscribed to this 
mailing list.


Note that the list membership is not public, so it is possible that a bad
person was trying to probe the list for its membership.  This would be a
privacy violation if we let them do this, but we didn't.

If you submitted the subscription request and forgot that you were 
already
subscribed to the list, then you can ignore this message.  If you 
suspect that
an attempt is being made to covertly discover whether you are a member 
of this
list, and you are worried about your privacy, then feel free to send a 
message
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Re: [LegacyUG] SPAM

[Wendy Howard]

I do not know what these emails are that you're talking about - I do not 
receive them.


But it could be something to do with the fact that you are using a Yahoo 
email address, and Yahoo does not play nicely with this mailing list.  
Every post that comes in to my mail box from a Yahoo address is attached 
to the post as an attachment. Several people have commented that they 
will not open attachments, and that's fair enough. My email program 
displays the content, so I see your messages (and have copied them below).


One solution could be to use an email address from another provider that 
doesn't have this reaction. There are plenty of free email services 
around - Gmail is one which I use and recommend.


In any case, please don't post your gripes about administration matters 
to the list. We can't help you, only the list administrator(s) can. 
Write to the list-owner's account - 
legacyusergroup-ow...@legacyusers.com - and you will reach the person 
you need.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy


   Subject:
   Re: [LegacyUG] SPAM
   From:
   Eibar Stoltz 
   Date:
   13/03/2016 06:59

   To:
   Legacy User Group 


   Why do I receive other peoples REJECTED emails? I have NEVER
   corresponded to Legacy or any Legacy Member!
   What do I have to do to STOP THE INSANITY?
   Thank You!

   C. E. Brush



   
   *From:* Eibar Stoltz via LegacyUserGroup
   
   *To:* "LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com"
   
   *Cc:* Eibar Stoltz 
   *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 1969 4:00 PM
   *Subject:* [LegacyUG] SPAM

   The original message to the list is in the attachment.

   This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
   imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
   without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
   for their subscription.

   Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
   this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
   providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
   I am receiving 20-40 emails a day addressed to [Legacy UG] from user
   group members.

   I thought that the issue would be resolved after a time but they
   keep coming!!

   Please advise!

   Thank You!!

   C. E. Brush


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Re: [LegacyUG] Census Dates

[Wendy Howard]

Hi June,

Are all your Census Events - as entered at the moment - for the same 
Census (ie country/state/whatever) and year?  Such as 1861 England 
Census, or 1920 US Census, etc.


If they are, then you could go to the Event Definition (View > Master 
Lists > Event Definitions...) and edit your census event for that one 
instance, and it will change all current events.


When you want to start entering events for other years/places, you can 
create a new Event Definition for that particular situation.


I prefer to have just one Event Definition for census entries, and I put 
the year in the Date field, along with a description of the person from 
the census data (eg, "10-year-old scholar born in Yorkshire", or 
"45-year-old weaver").


Once you decide how you're going to handle this, if it's a big job to 
make the changes you want you can tag everyone using the census event, 
then as you update your census events for each person to your liking 
untag them again. Those who are tagged at any time still need work, and 
are quickly found by searching on that tag - so you can go off and work 
on other people and come back to your tagged ones any time.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

June wrote on 10/03/2016 14:53:

When I initially started entering census information through 'Events' I did
not put the date of the census.

I now have hundreds of entries I would like to put the dates on but it's
taking ages doing them individually.

Is there a way I can edit the event and put the date in so that it will
apply to all those entries in my file.

I've looked at the help file but with had no luck.

Thank you - June


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Re: [LegacyUG] (no subject)

[Wendy Howard]

Which reports are those, Don?

Tell us more, so we can help you.

Or are you asking why you are receiving emails from the LegacyUG mailing 
list? That is because you subscribed to it at some time in the past. It 
might be that it was before the software was changed recently and you'd 
had problems that meant you never received the mail before.


If you want to leave, go to 
http://legacyusers.com/mailman/options/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com/ 
 There 
is a button there to click to unsubscribe yourself from the mailing 
list; you may have to log in to your account first - I'm not going to 
test it for you to find out.


If that's too hard, write to the "list owner" - 
legacyusergroup-ow...@legacyusers.com - and ask to be removed.


Kind Regards,
Wendy

don.deemoe via LegacyUserGroup wrote on 8/03/2016 11:32:

Subject:
Re: [LegacyUG]
From:
"don.deemoe" 
Date:
8/03/2016 10:23

To:
"Legacy User Group" 


- why am i getting all those reports?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Frozen Legacy Users Group

[Wendy Howard]

Hi John,

You asked "Will you please share with me how to unfreeze my Legacy 
program.  I have written to you a couple of times about this challenge".


I can see that you replied to Brian's test post to the list just over a 
week ago asking "Are you the person I should ask to Open and Unlock my 
edition of family tree?  Ay wayn I needto ask someone about my 
challenge.  I will write it won this time what you tell me."


I don't see any other post from you asking questions along this line.  
It's possible many didn't see either of your posts, because Yahoo mail 
does not play nicely with our new mailing list software and the email is 
put into an attachment.


Can you tell us more about what is happening at your computer?  Is it 
freezing when you open the program, or when you try to open a particular 
file?  What are the steps you took before it happend?


Or is the program running fine, and you need to put in your Deluxe code 
to unlock the extra features?  If that's the case, in Legacy go to the 
Help (press the F1 key) and in the Index tab type /unlock/ into the 
search field, then double-click on the article listed for Unlock, Legacy.


You said "this time I will commit your response to paper and write down 
the correct way to do this challenge"


Don't delete your emails - then you can always find them again!  :-)

If your current email provider (Yahoo in your case) does not give you 
enough mail box space to keep all your emails, consider signing up to a 
Gmail account.


I've had my account since the days when you had to be invited (2005 or 
thereabouts) and I receive hundreds of emails each week.  I've only once 
had to delete emails because I was running out of space, and I deleted a 
swag of emails where people are trying to sell me things (not spam) and 
carried on (they were easily picked out, as I used a filter and a label 
to identify them as they came in). Meanwhile, I have all the emails sent 
to me (other than the sales ones I deleted), and can usually find an old 
one with a simple search.


You don't have to give up your current address and tell everyone to use 
the new one - Gmail will fetch the mail from your current address if you 
tell it to.  This is also a handy backup of your emails.  You can also 
send emails from Gmail as if they came from your other address, once 
you've proved to Gmail that you have control of that account.


A Gmail account also gives you access to more features at other Google 
sites.


And it's all free.  :-)

Hope this helps.

Wendy

John Harris via LegacyUserGroup wrote on 8/03/2016 09:52:

Brian,

Will you please share with me how to unfreeze my Legacy program.  I 
have written to you a couple of times about this challenge, but after 
you contact me this time I will commit your response to paper and 
write down the correct way to do this challenge.  I am aware of your 
time in handling this item, and I thank you for doing this for me.  I 
have been a long time user of Legacy products.


Thank you,

John Harris
jkharri...@yahoo.com
2200 South Dixieland Road
Rogers, A 72756


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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving your own posts?

[Wendy Howard]

It's about 7:15pm Monday as I start typing this reply.

I'll be around for another couple of hours, and will check for any posts 
waiting to be released through the evening and immediately before I go 
to bed.


I have no plans to go anywhere tomorrow, so will be keeping an eye on 
the moderations throughout the day.


I have been having a conversation with one former LUG member today, who 
is still receiving posts after she has left the list. It appears there 
is a holdup somewhere along the line, and she is still receiving posts 
that went to the list before she left, two days after she left.  That's 
nothing to do with LUG, but somewhere along the delivery line beyond our 
control.


Wendy

PS  7:21pm now that I'm finished typing.  ;-)


Brian/Support wrote on 29/02/2016 18:37:
It is slower because we have temporarily made the list a moderated 
list which means messages are held in a queue until they have been 
reviewed by the list managers and released for transmission. Wendy and 
I the moderators but we are not sitting here doing nothing but 
watching the queue, it is a weekend and we both have a life outside 
the list.


I have been checking every couple of hours today and releasing 
messages that have arrived. I am now off to bed (it is after midnight 
where I live) and, unless Wendy, who lives in New Zealand, is online 
and releasing messages it will be 6-8 hours before I look at the queue 
again.


Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 28/02/2016 22:58, Steve Hayes wrote:

On 29 Feb 2016 at 14:17, Wendy Howard wrote:


Since we moved over to Mailman last week, some people have noticed they
are not receiving copies of their own posts like they used to.


I thought that was happening to me, but then discovered that my posts 
were

appearing a day or two later.

Perhaps the new list is just a bit slowe than the old one 


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[LegacyUG] Not receiving your own posts?

[Wendy Howard]

Since we moved over to Mailman last week, some people have noticed they 
are not receiving copies of their own posts like they used to.


I'm seeing this myself, since Gmail used to echo back my own posts under 
the old system, but - like the Rootsweb lists - doesn't under Mailman.


There is a solution, a setting in your own account with the list, and 
you can set it yourself.


If you still have the welcome email from when this list was resurrected 
last week, go to that and click on the link provided to take you 
directly to your own subscription page.


If you don't have that any more, click on this link: 
http://legacyusers.com/mailman/options/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com/


Log in to your account.

   If you don't know your password, fill in your email address in the
   field provided and then click on the button to be sent a reminder. 
   Remember, you must use the address with which you're subscribed to

   that mailing list. You'll receive an email telling you what the
   password for your account with this list is.


Now you're at a page that says "LegacyUserGroup mailing list membership 
configuration for , ".  I expect the 
 part won't be included if you haven't told Mailman your 
name; it's optional.


Scroll down to the Subscription Options section of the page, and look 
for the one "Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the 
list?".  Tick the Yes box, then click on the button "Submit My Changes" 
at the bottom of the window.


Now when you post to that list, you will receive a short email from the 
system to tell you that your post has been received by the mailing 
list.  If the list is on moderation, there will be a delay until the 
post is approved.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring Media Files

[Wendy Howard]

Rebecca said: "I keep my do in Dropbox along with all the documents, 
media, etc."


Good point, Rebecca.  This is one reason I don't often do a media backup 
in Legacy, because everything that is precious to me on my computer is 
in a Dropbox folder.  I pay an annual subscription to Dropbox to have 
1TB of space - that's bigger than the hard drive on my computer, so is 
plenty for my needs.  :-)


Of course, should the unthinkable happen and Dropbox falls off the face 
of the earth, we will have lost that form of backup - however should 
still have our own files on our own computers.


But remember, as /Ask Leo/ says: /If it’s in only one place, it’s not 
backed up.

/(https://askleo.com/how_do_i_backup_my_computer/)
/
/And, remember also the "3,2,1 approach": /at least/ 3 copies, in 2 
different formats, with 1 copy kept off-site.  that's also discussed at 
that Ask Leo link if you want to know more.


This is something for everyone to think about.  I know I'm hopeless at 
backups (except for Legacy prompting me when I exit the program) and 
could do much better than I do.


(I subscribe to Leo's free weekly newsletter, as well as follow him on 
Facebook.  He has a skill in explaining technical things in plain language.)


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring Media Files

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Brian,

You may find this article from the Legacy web site helpful...

http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00486/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Backup-Restore-how-to-restore-media-files-all-versions.html

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Brian Finnegan wrote on 29/02/2016 11:10:
​My main Legacy 8.0 files are on my desk top computer. I also have a 
Laptop, with Legacy 8.0 on it.


I create a backup form my desk top computer to a flash drive with both 
data and media files. That part is simple. The problem comes I then go 
to restore the files onto my lap top, it only does the data files.


My question is, How do you restore the Media files to the Lap top so 
that both systems have the same information. And do you have to remove 
the old Media file before you restore the new one ??


Any information would be of great help.

Thank you Brian


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Re: [LegacyUG] How to accomplish a working data base of one family?

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Jane,

You have to put the data somewhere, so you have a choice to make about 
how to go about it.  People have already posted good suggestions.  
Here's a summary as I see it:


(1)  add this person (and her family) to your current database, unlinked 
to your main family.  You get to use the same Master Lists (sources, 
surnames, locations...) which helps with consistency with your 
information.  You can find these people quickly and easily at any time 
using the Name List, without having to close your main Family File and 
open another  When the time comes that you confirm she belongs with your 
family, you can link/merge as needed to connect her.


(2)  start a new Famiy File in Legacy for this family.  It's entirely 
separate from your main file, and will have separate Master Lists 
(sources, surnames, locations...) that may vary in detail from your main 
family file if you're not absolutely accurate and consistent with your 
input.  When you want to look at or update these people, you will have 
to open that file before you can work on it.  When the time comes that 
you confirm she belongs with your family, you can import the contents of 
that file to your main file, and merge any people who are in both files, 
before adding any links needed to connect the families.


Both are perfectly good ways of managing this situation.  Neither is 
wrong, they're just different.  Decide for yourself which is your 
preference, and go with it.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Jane Sarles wrote on 27/02/2016 16:49:
I don't wish to have just her standing alone.  To research the 
connection I will need her children's names and details, and her 
husbands information. Sort of a total picture of everything I know 
about the prospective family.   Then I will be researching their 
children's death records, obits, land, etc. so will need their 
information to be all together so I don't have to keep looking back 
and forth .  I guess a family group report would give me everything to 
help the research, but  can't get one together unless I have her as 
wife to the family.


I am having a hard time making this clear.  I like the idea of a new 
mini-data base, but am not sure how to get there without re=inputting 
everything on the husband and children. Perhaps do a focus group of 
the husband, his parents, and the children of the father.  Then I 
could just put in the prospective wife by hand.


Jane S.

On 2/26/2016 5:46 PM, Perk Bingham wrote:
Would it not work if one were to start a new file for her and then, 
when her data is more complete, "merge" her into your database? 
(having backed it up first)  (:>)


Perk

*_Family History - Without the Proofs & Sources, it's only Mythology_

Researching: Clawson, Ford, Rohrer, Jenkins, & Kibbey - in Ohio and 
beyond
And: Black, Nichol, Webb, Flynn, & Millar - in Canada, the UK and 
Ireland.
Wait! Wait ! There's still more - Also: Hallsberg, Lundberg, & Laine, 
in Sweden & Finland *


**
On 2/26/2016 12:01 PM, Boyd Miller wrote:

Jane,
There is no reason why you can't have her as an unlinked individual, 
with all her own data, within your main database. She will show in 
the name list, and can be linked when you find a connection but will 
generally not show in any other lists or reports.


If you go to View > Trees > Refresh that you may find you already 
have some floating individuals.


Boyd

On 27/02/2016 7:39 a.m., Jane Sarles wrote:
I have a prospect for the wife of an ancestor.  I am 95% sure that 
she is the right one,but not 100%.  I should like to have a 
mini-data base of just this couple and their ancestors and 
descendants to use for research purposes while I try to verify 
their relationship.


I don't want to add her to my main data base, since I don't have 
her documented, but I need her in my dummy data base so I can see 
the broader picture and how she fits in.


Alternatively, I could put her in the main db, but in some special 
way (color type, different font?) or some such designation.  Would 
that work better?  Then I wouldn't have to re-type all her facts in 
when I verify her.


Can anyone suggest how I might do this?

Jane S.


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Re: [LegacyUG] How to accomplish a working data base of one family?

[Wendy Howard]

Hi June,

Did your Tree Finder come up with something that looks like one of the 
images here 
* 
(full URL below)?  I've taken these two from the Sample database (on the 
left) and my own file (on the right) and combined them into one image 
for easy comparison.


The numbers in [square brackets] are the RINs for the person named.  The 
number to the right, in the Count column, is the number of individuals 
in that particular tree.


RIN = Record Identification Number, a unique number assigned to each 
person in your file - it's an essential element of how the database 
works.  So the 15, if it is in the square brackets next to your name, is 
the RIN assigned to you in that file.


If the 15 is in the Count column, that is telling you that there are 15 
people in that particular tree.  Look at the image I mentioned at the 
start, and you'll see there are 156 people in Asa Clark BROWN's tree, 
and four other unlinked people.  In my own file, there are 20999 people 
in my own tree, and various other trees that are not linked to that main 
tree (that perhaps I'll work out how they connect one day, if they do, 
and I can link them together).


Jane Sarles - this is another way you can keep track of your unlinked 
family if you choose to keep them in your main family file.


Hope this helps to explain what you're seeing.  :-)

Wendy

* Dropbox URL - 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/58um20cgeckjuls/Screenshot%202016-02-27%2015.34.png?dl=0


June wrote on 27/02/2016 15:11:


Boyd, I just saw your message to Jane regarding unlinked individuals.

As I thought it was possible that I had an unlinked individual,  I did 
as you suggested to Jane – thinking it would come up with a list of 
unlinked people – but it came up with my name and the number 15 
against it. I went to preview thinking that it would show a list of 
something but it just had my name and the number 15.


Could you please explain what that means?

Thank you

June

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Boyd 
Miller

*Sent:* Saturday, 27 February 2016 6:02 AM
*To:* Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How to accomplish a working data base of one 
family?


Jane,
There is no reason why you can't have her as an unlinked individual, 
with all her own data, within your main database. She will show in the 
name list, and can be linked when you find a connection but will 
generally not show in any other lists or reports.


If you go to View > Trees > Refresh that you may find you already have 
some floating individuals.


Boyd






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[LegacyUG] No Digest option - alternative management of mail

[Wendy Howard]

I've been chatting with Brian about this mailing list (I'm helping him 
and Ken with it at the moment), and suggested I post with this 
information to help anyone struggling with the lack of a digest here, 
and list mail "clogging up" the Inbox.


Whatever mail service you are using, there will be a feature - usually 
called a rule or a filter - that lets you do things to your mail as it 
comes in.  For mailing lists, I like to have that mail taken out of my 
Inbox and 'put away' somewhere so that I can ignore it while I'm busy 
with other things, and can focus on it when I'm ready to read it.  
Here's how...


The filter is going to look for all mail addressed *TO* the mailing 
list.  That's /LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com/ for the LUG, the address 
all list mail is sent to.


For mail programs that use folders, you'll want to set up a folder 
somewhere in your mailbox for "LUG" or "LegacyUG", or whatever name you 
want to give it.  Direct the list mail to that folder.


This will work for any mailing list you subscribe to.  Just alter the 
address used, and what you call the place it goes to to something 
meaningful for that list.


I've taken a screenshot of my own Thunderbird mailbox, which you can see 
here 
 
(links to a Dropbox file, full link below); you'll see I've set up a 
folder for Genealogy under "Local Folders", and under Genealogy I have a 
folder for this mailing list.  And my LUG filter is here 
 
(Dropbox link, full URL below) if you want to see it.


Gmail (on their web site and apps) is a little different, in that it 
uses Labels instead of folders.  They're a little like tags. Tell Gmail 
to apply a label (call it LUG or something useful) and skip the Inbox 
(archive it).  (Set this up in a web browser via the Settings, and 
you'll find it carries through to any Gmail app you use on other 
devices.)  See a screenshot of my LUG label at Gmail here 
 
(another Dropbox link, full URL below) if you're interested.


You may have the option at this point to apply your new filter to 
existing mail.  You may like to do that - it will pick up any old list 
mail that is still in the system.


Now your list mail is in its own folder, and any new mail will go there 
too, waiting for you to read it when you're ready for it, and out of the 
way when you're not.  The posts you haven't yet read will be marked as 
unread, so you can always tell where you're up to.


Check out your service's Help for specific instructions.  If you need 
further help, feel free to write to me _directly_ (ie, to 
wendy.how...@gmail.com, do NOT post to the list!) and tell me what 
program or service you're using, and I'll do my best to assist you.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Dropbox link of Thunderbird screenshot:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o646x2czpz6tamy/Screenshot%202016-02-25%2018.16.02.png?dl=0
Dropbox link of Thunderbird filter: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gqw2w5cl1f96okp/Screenshot%202016-02-25%2018.38.49.png?dl=0
Dropbox link of Gmail screenshot: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zho3jnlaso3q4tm/Screenshot%202016-02-25%2018.29.11.png?dl=0


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Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.

[Wendy Howard]

Hi June,

So you've got everyone entered into your database, but you haven't yet 
linked Simon SMITH to his wife Hannah JONES?


With Simon in the spouse area in Family View, right-click in the wife's 
area and then click on "Add a wife", and then in the next window that 
appears, click on "Link to an EXISTING person". You'll then see the Name 
List, where you can navigate to Hannah and select her.


Alternatively, you can right-click on Simon and select Add > Wife.

Or, via the menus, click on Add > Add Wife.

Or, via keyboard shortcuts, press AW (for Add Wife).

Whichever route you take, the key is to link to an existing person, 
instead of adding a new person.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

June wrote on 24/02/2016 16:46:

For some reason I'm afraid I'm having a mental block and am a bit lost at
how to enter some data on. Its the last line I am having problems with. I
have no names other than those listed (and I have changed the names)

Thank you - June

John Smith's daughter Mary married John Jones (widower)  - that is all ok
and all are on my data base.

John and Mary Jones had a son - Jack Jones - also on my data base and no
problem.

Jack Jones married Beatrice daughter of Simon Smith. - ok and on my data
base

Simon Smith was a first cousin of David Smith who married as his second wife
Hannah the daughter of the above John Jones.


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Re: [LegacyUG] What is going on? Spam or something else?

[Wendy Howard via Legacyusergroup]

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Hi Annie and everyone else wondering what is going on...

Legacy encountered problems with all of its mailing lists a few days 
ago, and there has been no list mail for five or six days until the past 
hour or so.


If you belong to the Legacy User Group on Facebook*, you will have seen 
it mentioned there.


* I am in no way saying that everyone should join this group.  It is 
there for those who wish to take part, just as the mailing lists are 
there for those people who want to use those.  It just happens that I 
use both so I know the mailing list problem came up there.


Clearly, this new mailing list using Mailman is the solution that Legacy 
have found, to set up a new list.  There will be teething problems while 
we all get used to the new list and Legacy discover the implications of 
the settings they've chosen for it.  It's a big task on both sides.


I suspect, from some of the posts I've seen, that Legacy had to resort 
to an old list of LUG members to get going again.  If you don't want to 
receive the mail at all, feel free to unsubscribe.  If you want to be 
here, but the mail sent to a different address, change the address.


Instructions on how to manage your own subscriptions (which is new to 
this mailing list), are given in the email you received with the subject 
"Welcome to the "Legacyusergroup" mailing list".


If you wish, you should** be able unsubscribe from this mailing list by 
sending an email _from the address that is receiving the mail_, to 
legacyusergroup-requ...@legacyusers.com with the single word 
/unsubscribe/ in either the body or the subject line.


** I've not tested this command, but Mailman is also used for the 
Rootsweb mailing lists, and it works there.


Hope this helps everyone to deal to the situation calmly.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Annie Stratton via Legacyusergroup wrote on 23/02/2016 12:31:
I received a welcome message to a legacy user email group that I know 
nothing about. I figured that someone had skimmed my old email and 
deleted the message as spam.


It's possible I signed up for it a long while ago when I first started 
using Legacy. This is an old email address I rarely use these days, 
and I do not recall getting anything from it and assumed it defunct.


Also am receiving emails from various people who are as baffled as I. 
Then a message explaining that Legacy users group was changing email 
servers or something and this is why the message.  It would have been 
good to include such an explanation in the first message, along with 
an opt-in.  Or better, a non-group message with an explanation of what 
happened and an inquiry about interest i participation that one could 
respond to if one wished.


I'm afraid there is too much uncertainty in the networld to feel easy 
about a message coming out of the blue like this! I will not answer to 
the emails for fear it is spam or phishing, but did want to know if 
this originated with the old Legacy Users Group with address on Legacy 
website. If so, I'm sure it was well-meant. But I am not interested, 
have my hands full with research and occasionally drop in at the FB 
Legacy Users Group. My inbox is too full to take on more.


Annie


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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Barbara,

In regard to the question about upgrading to Windows 10 (or not), you
may find it helpful to read this article I saw the other day -
https://askleo.com/should-i-upgrade-to-windows-10/

I find that Leo Notenboom (of the site "Ask Leo") writes plainly and
sensibly, and has a skill at explaining technical things in a way that
is easy to understand. I subscribe to his free weekly email newsletter
as well as follow him on Facebook.

Personally, I have decided that I am not going to upgrade my laptop,
which runs on Windows 7. It works fine for me. The laptop is starting to
show signs of its age and won't last forever, and when I upgrade I'll
move to Windows 10 (or whatever is the current version by that time).

There is no right or wrong answer on this question, just the one that
you choose for yourself. I think Cathy has had a great result on her
machine, having sent it to an expert for cleaning and upgrading to
Windows 10.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Barbara Ford wrote on 11/02/2016 11:20:
> Okay, thank you. I have used the Relationship Calculator many times in 6.0, 
> but never thought to use it to research a looping problem.
>
> I was new to Legacy when the first update came after 6.0. Some of the 
> technical "talk" on the user group scared me off--I was barely understanding 
> 6.0, without trying to think about "new" things and potential bugs. Then when 
> I updated my computer to Windows 7, I had much, much difficulty getting my 
> Legacy 6.0 to run. Once it was up and running successfully, I have been 
> afraid to update Legacy. Now, I'm dreading Windows 10. So, I see the 
> handwriting on the wall that I am going to have to update Legacy so that I 
> can eventually succumb to the forced use of Windows 10. Going from Legacy 
> 6.0, as a non-technical person, to the latest version of Legacy, am I going 
> to have a nightmare? Will it work well with Windows 7? And am I right that I 
> should do that first (updating Legacy) BEFORE I eventually go to Windows 10?
> Barbara




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Re: [LegacyUG] Families

[Wendy Howard]

I use Families on both my phone and my tablet. Both devices are Android.

I love that I am carrying around my entire database, and can look up any
little fact when I need to check, without carrying my rather heavy
laptop everywhere I go.

You can enter new data into Families and sync it back to Legacy, but I
choose not to do that. It's more to do with typing on itty-bitty
keyboards than anything else - I'd rather take photos and sit down in
comfort at home to do the typing on a 'proper' keyboard where I can
touch-type.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Cheryl Rothwell wrote on 23/01/2016 14:50:
> I was thinking of getting Families. I had a program like that from
> that company on my Palm Pilot back in the Dark Ages. I recall it was
> useful for carrying your database and impressing people, not so great
> for adding info and transferring it back to your database.
>
> On Google Play the reviews are less than stellar.
>
> Does anyone use it? Thoughts?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

[Wendy Howard]

You can have more than one citation in the Source Clipboard at a time,
and apply them all in one action.

Go to Options > Customise > 7. Sources > 7.5 Source Clipboard - Capacity
and select the option "Allow up to five...".

Now you can load more than one citation into the Source Clipboard,a nd
when you apply the Source Clipboard all your citations will be attached
to that data. Note that you cannot have more than one citation in the
Source Clipboard and only apply one of them - it's all or nothing.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Hannigan Family Research wrote on 12/01/2016 03:39:
> I am trying to work through the Genealogy Do-Over (sort-of) and have a
> question about sourcing.  I hope that this is the proper group for
> this request.  If not, please let me know where I need to go to get
> an answer.
>
> In most cases, there are primary sources (1930 US Census) and
> secondary sources (Census for Boston, Massachusetts) for most items.Â
> Is it possible to create a primary source and then add the secondary
> (additional) data to the source entry without having 15 source entries
> for the 1930 US Census in Boston?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John




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Re: [LegacyUG] creating a Gedcom

[Wendy Howard]

If I'm reading you right, you need to link Alexander and Jessie as
husband and wife.

Right-click on one of them and select Add... from the menu that pops up,
then select the appropriate spouse (husband or wife, depending on who
you started with), and then add an existing person and navigate to the
other spouse.

Since this is Jessie's first marriage, but you're entering it after her
second one, click on Jessie's spouse icon and sort the marriages into
their proper order, so they appear in that order in reports.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

D. Eze wrote on 13/01/2016 12:52:
> When I create a gedcom from Legacy 8.0.0.536 it leaves out a whole
> branch. I have untagged everyone.
>
> When I was creating the gedcom I did Ctrl-E then next to "produce file
> for"  I choose "gedcom 5.5.1 only", and then next "record selection" I
> left it at "all records in the entire family file". Next I clicked the
> export button.
>
> I want to import this into TNG. I checked the gedcom in the program
> "Ahnenblatt" to make sure it wasn't a problem with TNG. The
> information in missing in the gedcom.
>
> After investigating some more I realized that the people are there but
> they are not connected thro their marriage like they should be.
>
> Alexander shows up with his first wife (Louisa) but not his second
> (Jessie). Jessie shows up with her second husband (William) but not
> her first (Alexander).
>
> So the link I need is between Alexander and his second wife Jessie.
>
> Does anyone know what is wrong?*
>
>
> *
> Daphne Eze




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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Stan,

Have you considered using one of the parcel-forwarding services that
ship to New Zealand?

Consumer magazine recently looked at YouShop
(https://www.nzpost.co.nz/tools/youshop), and compared it to USGoBuy
(http://www.usgobuy.com/), Stackry (http://www.stackry.com/) and Viabox
(https://www.viabox.com/), and thought the NZ Post service (YouShop)
stacked up well against the others.

The report is on page 17 of the Dec 2015/Jan 2016 magazine (your library
may have the magazine if you don't have your own), or at
https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/parcel-forwarding-services - you
need to be logged in as a member to read the whole page.

This may be a cheaper option than having goods shipped directly to you.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Stan wrote on 15/12/2015 08:49:
> I had intended to buy that and another book from Legacy Store to be shipped 
> to NZ. I often  buy from US book shops and typically have to pay U5 for a 
> single book and no more for U$12 for two or three sent combined. They call it 
> second class mail but it is always delivered to me in NZ within 15 days often 
> within 5 days.
>
> Regrettably the Legacy store only offers one delivery method described as 
> "Best way International" No further details of what that "way" is. For the 2 
> books in my purchase cart that delivery cost was U$37. It might be the best 
> way for Legacy but it sure isn’t the Best Way for me.
>
> I am not interested in a PDF ONLY  purchase and if and when there is a 
> satisfactory option for shipping at less than half of the "Best Way"  cost I 
> will purchase them too
>
> Cheers from Stan




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Re: [LegacyUG] Search Replace

[Wendy Howard]

I've run a Search Replace in the past hour, as it happens, having never
used it before but read about it many times over the years. I did not
use the "replace" portion (I "skipped" so it would go on to look for the
next one), but the "search" found what I was looking for.

Can you tell us what you're doing, that you're not getting the expected
result?

Wendy

Don Quigley wrote on 15/11/2015 07:47:
>
> Has anyone else had problems with SR not finding valid search strings
> in a selected field?
>
> Donald Quigley
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success

[Wendy Howard]

I used Microsoft Publisher.

Once I'd created the chart, I set the magnification so that the chart
was as big as it could be and still see the whole thing (to maximise the
resolution in the subsequent image) and then  used the Windows Snipping
Tool to capture and save the image.

Before that, in Legacy, I used the Relationship Calculator to show the
relationship/path between the duplicate man and my partner, and then
again to show the duplicate man and me, and pieced the chart together In
Publisher box and line by box and line.  A certain amount of copy and
paste of text boxes and lines was employed once I'd worked out what I
was doing.  And I used Publisher's inbuilt guide lines to help keep
things in neat lines (and turned those off before taking the image).

I could do the same in a spreadsheet if I had to.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Marianne Szabo wrote on 28/08/2015 08:21:
 I'd like to know how you created the illustration of the multiple 
 relationships!  I have a similar situation in my database, but Legacy 
 Charting won't show it the way yours does.  Marianne

 -Original Message-
 From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:19 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success

 Do you know how much I love Legacy? Today, I have confirmed that my partner 
 and I are connected, other than via our own relationship, through four 
 marriages - and I'd have never found this if it weren't for Legacy.

 You can see an illustration of this relationship here -
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws03zjvtowp18dc/Wendy%27s%20relationship%20chart.PNG?dl=0

 I was a little bored one day a while back, and started playing around a bit 
 on the computer. Ended up running Merge Duplicates in Legacy, and after 
 working through many false matches (due to having 'placeholder'
 names for many people who I know exist but don't know their names yet) struck 
 this potential match where one Robert Mills had parents recorded, and the 
 other had a wife - but they both had the same birth and death dates. One was 
 connected to me, the other to himself.

 My sources showed I'd gathered the data for the two men from different 
 places/people. I couldn't find out via those routes if anyone had since 
 connected the two, so I purchased a copy of the marriage registration for the 
 husband and wife, which would name the parents of both parties.
 That arrived by email today, and voilà ! - it's one and the same man.

 While I've known all along that this could be a possibility - New Zealand is 
 a very small country and I'm not ruling out a closer connection, since 
 there's a whole lot more to be researched in both our families - this has 
 come as a big surprise.

 I have had the Merge Duplicates process on hold since I found this, just in 
 case I wanted to undo that merge when I knew the truth (having jumped ahead 
 and done it before thinking about what I was doing, LOL!!), and each time I 
 open my database I'm reminded that it's on hold (and do I want to continue 
 with the merge or keep it on hold?), so now I can move on and continue 
 looking for other potential duplicates.

 And I would never have known about this if I didn't go wide and look beyond 
 the immediate ancestors. I made this connection largely because I made 
 contact with a descendant of the 'middle' family in the chart linked above, 
 who was interested in his connections with my family, and I'd added some of 
 his line to my database so I could place him there.
 That effort has paid off in a major way. :-)

 Wendy




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[LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success

[Wendy Howard]

Do you know how much I love Legacy? Today, I have confirmed that my
partner and I are connected, other than via our own relationship,
through four marriages - and I'd have never found this if it weren't for
Legacy.

You can see an illustration of this relationship here -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws03zjvtowp18dc/Wendy%27s%20relationship%20chart.PNG?dl=0

I was a little bored one day a while back, and started playing around a
bit on the computer. Ended up running Merge Duplicates in Legacy, and
after working through many false matches (due to having 'placeholder'
names for many people who I know exist but don't know their names yet)
struck this potential match where one Robert Mills had parents recorded,
and the other had a wife - but they both had the same birth and death
dates. One was connected to me, the other to himself.

My sources showed I'd gathered the data for the two men from different
places/people. I couldn't find out via those routes if anyone had since
connected the two, so I purchased a copy of the marriage registration
for the husband and wife, which would name the parents of both parties.
That arrived by email today, and voilà! - it's one and the same man.

While I've known all along that this could be a possibility - New
Zealand is a very small country and I'm not ruling out a closer
connection, since there's a whole lot more to be researched in both our
families - this has come as a big surprise.

I have had the Merge Duplicates process on hold since I found this, just
in case I wanted to undo that merge when I knew the truth (having jumped
ahead and done it before thinking about what I was doing, LOL!!), and
each time I open my database I'm reminded that it's on hold (and do I
want to continue with the merge or keep it on hold?), so now I can move
on and continue looking for other potential duplicates.

And I would never have known about this if I didn't go wide and look
beyond the immediate ancestors. I made this connection largely because I
made contact with a descendant of the 'middle' family in the chart
linked above, who was interested in his connections with my family, and
I'd added some of his line to my database so I could place him there.
That effort has paid off in a major way. :-)

Wendy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown partner names

[Wendy Howard]

Would privacy brackets help you here?  That is, put square brackets
[[around anything 'private']] like this. You can see them on the screen
when you're in Legacy, but you can choose to not include that data in
reports.  You could use them to mark the missing portion of the surname,
so you can see at a glance that it's missing, but you do not have to
include it in reports if you want to withhold it.

I often use privacy brackets when I know a person exists, but don't know
their name, and once I find out their name enter it as an AKA, and then
switch the AKA with the main name, to preserve the path of research (I
like to use citation dates, so you can see which data was entered when).

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Helen McCall wrote on 8/08/2015 21:27:
 My tree has South American as well as European people in it.  So the
 South American's have two surnames.  Sometimes the second or even first
 surname of someone is not remembered, so only one surname can be entered
 for children and possibly parents.  But the correct name should have
 two.  Because it's a mixed tree this absence is not readily apparent if
 no marker is used.  How can you show that one is missing, when Legacy
 doesn't like you to enter a ? or something like that.   I assume this is
 a problem others have already solved.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digest

[Wendy Howard]

There is no digest option on this mailing list.

You, however, have the power to manipulate your incoming mail
automatically using a rule/filter - the name varies according to the
program or service you're using, but the effect is the same.

I use a filter to identify incoming list mail (by the To: address) and
move it to another folder. Busy lists (like this one) get their own
folder in my mailbox, others get lumped together.

If you use Gmail at their web site, which has labels instead of folders,
there are still ways to manage the mail.

The end result is that mail that is not sent specifically to me (ie,
mailing lists) do not end up in the Inbox, but sit elsewhere out of the
way until I'm ready to read it. Until then, I can happily ignore it all.

I wrote some instructions on how to do this many years ago, for a
different mailing list - you can adapt them to any mailing list by
substituting the appropriate list address and giving the folder an
appropriate name. You'll find them here -
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/How-to.htm#RuleFilter

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Karen Howard wrote on 1/06/2015 12:49:
 Is there a way to get a daily digest of this user group so that I get emails 
 once a day instead of numerous times.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup question

[Wendy Howard]

They end up where-ever you told Legacy to put them.

If you don't know where they are going, next time you go to do a backup
- and before you click on the 'Backup' button to start the process
running - look up from that button and you'll see where the backups are
currently set to be saved. You can change that location by clicking on
the large button just above where the current location is shown.

Note that there are two sets of current location and button to change it
- one for the data, one for the media files.

You do not need to delete the older backup files. They will sit quite
happily where-ever they are. The only time you'd need to consider
weeding some out would be if you were running out of storage space,
either on your hard drive, or in an online storage service in use
(Dropbox, One Drive, etc).

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

memc...@aol.com wrote on 26/04/2015 16:20:
 Dear Legacy Users,
 Where do the backups end up on the computer?
 Do they purge themselves or do I need to find and delete the older ones?
 Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud for backups etc

[Wendy Howard]

I pay Dropbox for extra storage space, and keep everything of value to
me in the Dropbox folder. This includes all my Legacy data files, and
their backups (as I have space to spare, currently using 92.6GB of the
1.02TB allocated to me).

Before I paid Dropbox for the extra space, I used to keep the Legacy
backups in Dropbox, and if I needed to open my Legacy file on another
computer (other than my main one) I would restore the latest backup.

Legacy remembers where you put your backups last, and will put the next
one there unless you tell it to put it somewhere else, so once you've
set that you don't have to remember each time.

There could be a small problem with the media, switching between two
computers this way, because the path name stored in Legacy would have to
be exactly the same on both machines to work without a hitch. This means
the Windows user-name has to be the same, and the Dropbox folder located
in the same place on both machines, for it to work seamlessly. But if
they're not, it should not take long to point Legacy on the second
machine to where your media are kept. I see this as a minor distraction,
if it were something I had to deal to maybe twice a year when I switched
locations, assuming there's only one computer used at each end.

The other point to remember is to only open your Legacy file in one
place at a time. If you had two computers in the same house with the
same Dropbox account, it might be tempting to open the same Legacy file
on both at the same time - or close it on one, then open it on the other
before Dropbox has had time to synchronise. It won't like that, so a
little patience may be needed.

You can still access your files if the internet goes down, as Dropbox
puts a copy on the computer's hard drive. But if you delete a file on
one, it will disappear from any other computer that has the same folder
on it when it synchronises there.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Norman Weston wrote on 2/04/2015 23:32:
 After several years away from family history I have returned to it to
 see if there is anything new to discover.
 After a few computer hard drive deaths over the years, I am so glad
 that I had backed up both my family file and media to my dropbox
 account. I live part of the year in one country and part in another
 and I have my Legacy Family Tree on several computers. At present if I
 make some changes on one computer I would need to backup my file plus
 its media and restore them on the other to keep it current. If I fail
 to do this each and every time I make changes, I could overwrite
 something I had changed previously! So my question is, has anyone ever
 mentioned or thought about any sort of Legacy auto backup facility to
 cloud in order that nothing is ever lost? Apologies if this has been
 discussed before, I am not sure how to search the past topics.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Files

[Wendy Howard]

Or open the file on the stick (in Legacy) and then select File  Save
As, and navigate to the folder on your hard drive where you want it to
live. A copy will be saved in that location.

Wendy

R G Strong-genes wrote on 3/04/2015 12:29:
 Jolene,
 Do not open them from the USB drive. Copy them to the Legacy/Data
 folder on your computer and then open them from there.
 *From:* Jolene mailto:sund...@centurytel.net
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 6:39 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Legacy Files
 I have saved 3 different Legacy Family files on a USB drive.  I have
 downloaded (8.0 bought) the program on a faster computer and want to
 take files off my USB drive and load them onto my faster computer.  I
 can get them into Legacy but it doesn’t save them, shut down and
 reopen Legacy without the USB and they aren’t there.  What am I
 overlooking, how do I keep the files in Legacy without using my USB drive?
 Thanks for your time and any suggestions.
 Jolene




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Re: [LegacyUG] Add an individual person

[Wendy Howard]

Don't apologise for asking questions, June. Chances are, if you're
wondering about something, so is someone else but they haven't gotten
around to asking about it. Or they haven't yet realised they need to ask
the question! Either way, you're helping others while helping yourself. :-)

Wendy

June wrote on 21/03/2015 22:47:
 Apologies for my various queries. Problem resolved, it became one large group 
 once I came to the person who connected them both.

 June

 -Original Message-
 From: June [mailto:mai_l...@aapt.net.au]
 Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 5:57 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Add an individual person

 OK - I am in the process of adding this new group of people. My query now is 
 how I join them into my main family group. Will this happen automatically 
 when I link someone from this unlinked individual's family or do I have to 
 actually have to merge the two groups.

 Thank you once again.

 June




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Re: [LegacyUG] Add an individual person

[Wendy Howard]

Yes, that's it. The new unlinked individual can, of course, be male or
female or unknown, depending on what you know about them. :-)

Wendy

June wrote on 21/03/2015 19:34:
 I've found it - Add an Unlinked Male. First time I have noticed it.

 Thanks - June


 -Original Message-
 From: June [mailto:mai_l...@aapt.net.au]
 Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 4:16 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Add an individual person

 I have my family tree on Legacy and have been given information about a group 
 of people whose connections are tangled but one of whom is the connection for 
 all of them in my family tree. Because the same names are used through 
 various generous it makes it harder still as do the many scraps of paper.

 What I wanted to put in the details of the eldest person, then add their 
 connections, then when I come across the one that connects with mine just go 
 to add a spouse and link to an existing person. Is that possible?

 I'm hesitant to start a totally new family tree as I don't know at this stage 
 who the connection is and I feel that I will be helped by the box that asks 
 me if an individual I have entered is the same as one I already have on.




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Re: [LegacyUG] adding a parent without adding a spouse of the existing parent

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Barton,

There's another way to approach this. Unlink the child from the father
again, then add BOTH parents at the same time, since you say they're
already linked to each other as spouses.

With the child in the middle (parent) position in Family View,
right-click on the child and select Add  parents, then select the pair
from the list that comes up.

There's often more than one way to do a task in Legacy. :-)

Wendy

Barton Lewis wrote on 18/03/2015 16:05:

 I need to add a different mother to someone in Legacy, so I unlinked
 him from his parents.  I then added his father and thought I could
 then add the mother, but Legacy won’t let me do it without adding the
 mother as a spouse to the father, though she is already the father’s
 spouse.  This has happened to me before and it drives me crazy!
 Legacy only allows you to add one parent at a time to an existing
 person that has been unlinked from their parents, then when you follow
 the same procedure to add the other parent, it tells you the parent is
 already a spouse and prompts you to add them again.  What is the solution?

 Barton





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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Wendy Howard]

Judy Russell, aka The Legal Genealogist
(http://www.legalgenealogist.com/), writes about DNA each Sunday (her
time, Monday for me). You may like to take a look at some of her
columns, they're well-written and easy to understand.

Late last year she ran a best of series, including this one on her DNA
posts through the year -
http://www.legalgenealogist.com/blog/2014/12/29/2014-top-posts-dna/

 From what I've read of this blog, you need to consider what you are
trying to determine from the testing, and who you're going to test,
before deciding which tests might be the best one for you.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

adam allan wrote on 17/03/2015 03:19:
 Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool.
 Ancestry.com is offering it and wanted some opinions on the
 technology, tks.

 Adam




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Re: [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

[Wendy Howard]

Did you send it to Legacy Support? Posting to this list is not the way
to contact them if you specifically need their assistance. It is for
peer-to-peer support (ie users helping other users) and some Legacy
staff also contribute here *when they can*.

You can find an email address for Support on their web site, or you
could go to the Support link on the Home tab within Legacy.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Dave Johnson wrote on 10/03/2015 10:11:

 There has been no response to this email from Legacy.

 *From:*Dave Johnson [mailto:davel...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:38 AM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Probable Bug - Bolding Notes in Event Screen

 Someone else may have noticed this bug, but I have seen no email
 regarding it.

 When documenting a census event, I transcribe the census record in the
 Notes Field.  I typically start by pasting the text tab contents
 into each persons in a census record.  Then I Then I highlight the
 person whose Legacy Record I am working in.  The problem is that when
 I first *Bold* the name of the head of household and save the Event,
 instead of *Bolding* the first name, the system puts a /b in front of
 the name.  After the name has been saved and I pull it up again, I can
 delete the /b and *Bold* the name and then it holds.

 An example is below:

 Text/Comments tab contains the transcribed Census Record for this
 household as follows:

 Elenor McGINNIS, head, white, female, born in Mar 1835, age 65,
 widowed, bore 6 children - 4 still alive, born in Kentucky, father
 born in Kentucky, mother born in Alabama, able to read write and speak
 English; Elza V McGINNIS, grandson, white, male, born in July 1856,
 age 13, single, born in Missouri, parents born in Kentucky, attended
 school, able to read write and speak English.

 When I copy the text (above) and paste it into the Census Event Notes
 field, for Eleanor McGinnis, I put in one blank line followed by 1) 
 just as Geoff explained in his Census Event DVD.  Then I delete the
 semi-colon after each person's information and replace it with a
 period.  Then I hit enter and type 2)  for the second person.  And
 so forth.  Before saving the record I Bold the first name, in this
 example Elenor McGinnis.  After saving the Census Event, when I reopen
 the census event it looks like this.

 1) \bElenor McGINNIS, head, white, female, born in Mar 1835, age 65,
 widowed, bore 6 children - 4 still alive, born in Kentucky, father
 born in Kentucky, mother born in Alabama, able to read write and speak
 English.

 2) Elza V McGINNIS, grandson, white, male, born in July 1856, age 13,
 single, born in Missouri, parents born in Kentucky, attended school,
 able to read write and speak English.

 but it should read as follows:

 1) *Elenor McGINNIS*, head, white, female, born in Mar 1835, age 65,
 widowed, bore 6 children - 4 still alive, born in Kentucky, father
 born in Kentucky, mother born in Alabama, able to read write and speak
 English.

 2) Elza V McGINNIS, grandson, white, male, born in July 1856, age 13,
 single, born in Missouri, parents born in Kentucky, attended school,
 able to read write and speak English.

 This seems to happen only when I paste the information into the note
 the first time.

 Please see if you can replicate this error.

 Thanks.

 Dave





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Re: [LegacyUG] No Mail?

[Wendy Howard]

This is a common complaint of new subscribers to this mailing list. I
don't know what the problem is, but write to Legacy Support
(supp...@legacyfamilytree.com) and tell them you're not receiving the
list mail and they should be able to fix it at their end.

Wendy

kinhunter25 wrote on 9/03/2015 10:09:
 Is the User Group email working?  I have subscribed and received
 confirmation that I have been subscribed but have received NO MAIL.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report - in Word, etc. ?

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Priscilla,

When you create web pages in Legacy, they are placed where you tell
Legacy where to put them - usually the hard drive of the computer you're
working on.

As others have said, they won't be online until you upload them to a site.

However, when you open any of the pages they will open in your web
browser - that's how they work. If you've got more than one browser
installed, they will open in the browser set as the default one unless
you specify for them to open in another.

When you've got a page from Legacy open in your browser, take a look at
the address bar - that will tell you where the page resides. If it is on
your computer, the address will start with c: or d: or something
similar. If it is online, it will start http://

If the address (also called a URL) is too long to show the whole line on
your screen, it may show the end or the beginning. If you want to see
the other end, click on the address (or press Ctrl-L) and then press the
Home key to see the beginning, or the End key to see the end.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Stu and Priscilla Fanning wrote on 6/03/2015 16:13:
 Thanks for all of your answers, Charani.

 Thank you for letting me know that the document is not online.  I use
 Chrome for internet.  In order to go to the document where I had saved
 it in my computer, I had to click on an icon that looked like the one
 for Chrome, so figured that it was online.

 I think I have figured out how to change the line length when using
 Text file.  I see that it has a box after those words with 80 in it.
  I have changed that number several times...now to 170.  It is far
 better.  I made the report with the page in landscape and then copied
 it and pasted it into Word. There are still some things to fix once it
 is in Word, but at least that can be done.

 If there are any easier ways or something else that I should know
 about how to do this, please pass that along.
Thanks very much,
   Priscilla

 
 *From:* Charani phoenixantis...@gmail.com
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2015 6:18 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report - in Word, etc. ?

 On 05/03/2015 02:39, Stu and Priscilla Fanning wrote:
  I tried the html first.  I have two concerns.  One is that the
  lines seem to wrap the text before necessary -- in other words the
  lines are short and then go on to the next line leaving a large
  space on the right side of the document.

 You can reset the line length yourself.

 Everything on your computer and everything you use on your computer
 has a default, which are the factory settings. You can pretty much
 change those to whatever you want, so if the default line length is,
 say, 60 characters, you can change that to 80 characters or whatever
 you want.

  More than that, though, it seems like the document is online.

 If you haven't physically uploaded your document to a website anywhere
 using an upload program of sort, it is NOT online.

 If you are composing the document on your computer, it's not going
 anywhere.

 If you are composing it on a blog site (eg Wordpress or similar),
 then, yes, it will be online.

  Maybe I should have understood that before making it, but I did
  not.  I don't have permission from my family to put all of this
  information online.

 What makes you think it is online?

  How do I remove it??

 Since it's unlikely to be online you won't need to.

  I also tried the text file.  This also seems to keep all of the
  text on the left side of the page, wrapping the text before
  necessary.  Any thoughts?

 Again you can reset the line length yourself.  Have a look in the
 settings.  Look but don't do anything at first!  See what there is, then
 change what you want to but remember what you've changed. Legacy
 is one of those lovely programs that allows you to reset to the defaults
 if you get in a muddle :)

 Bear in mind an HTML/RTF document is at least four times larger than
 a plain text document.  You won't see all the coding on your computer
 but it's there.

 If your document isn't how you'd like, save it as it is, then make a
 copy and
 have a fiddle around with it to get it to be the way you want.

 --
 Charani (UK)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Database

[Wendy Howard]

No. It should be accessible to anyone who has the link.

I use this all the time, when I want to share documents, photos, etc
with someone else. It's better than attaching a file to an email, as it
keeps the size of the email down while still giving the recipient access
to the file. You can share one file, or you can share a whole folder,
with just the one link.  This article tells you more about it -
https://www.dropbox.com/help/20?path=sharing_files_and_folders

Click on the link, and when the page comes up in your browser you should
see a button to download the file. Click on that, tell your computer
where to put the file (into your Downloads folder is fine unless you
want to put it somewhere else for your own reasons). Then carry on with
the install as instructed originally (run/execute the file, I expect).

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Margaret Gagliardi wrote on 7/03/2015 16:24:
 Do I have to join Dropbox in order to get it?

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Michele/Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

 Margaret,

 That Win32 message means that you didn’t get a complete download.
 Try downloading from here

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kkp669rqfqjdivd/LegacyGeoDBSetup.exe?dl=0

 I have the file up on Dropbox for people that have problems
 downloading from our website.

 Michele

 Technical Support

 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 www.legacyfamilytree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com

 *From:*Margaret Gagliardi [mailto:megsge...@gmail.com
 mailto:megsge...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2015 8:09 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Geo Database

 I just downloaded the Geo Database and when I try to run it, it
 says that it is not a valid Win32 application.

 Help!

 Thanks Margaret





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Re: Réf. : RE: [LegacyUG] Problem with reports - please help

[Wendy Howard]

What do you think the updates are? They are interim builds, provided for
free between major releases where the version number is changed.

You don't want all the test builds, where changes to the program have
not been tested outside of the programmers' computers. You want builds
where the features and fixes have been tested as best they can, and work
as expected - that is what you get when a new general release build is
released to the public.

Meanwhile, the testing team receives other builds in-between times and
uses them to test fixes, etc. Even they don't see every build number -
sometimes a build doesn't make it any further than the programmers
themselves, for a variety of reasons.

Have patience, and a new release will be made available to you (and
everyone else) as soon as it is ready.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy


Gene C. Harris wrote on 25/02/2015 08:16:
 With all of the problems we paying customers are having with the last
 build, don't you think andinterim release to fix these should be
 generated?


 /Gene/




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to Add Unknown Children

[Wendy Howard]

On top of everything that's already been said in this thread, this is
what I would do in this situation...

If you're uncertain about the father, I would add a new unlinked
individual who isn't attached to anyone (Ctrl-N) to start with, and then
link that person to the mother only.

For the name, I would put something in privacy brackets [[like this]] to
show how much I know about the child - it might be [[4th Daughter]] or
[[Child 2]] or simply [[Unknown]], depending on what the record you're
looking at told you. If your source does not indicate the child's
surname (as this would appear in the post below), don't include one at
this stage. The source information stays with this placeholder name so
you know later on where you got the information from.

Later on when you find out more, I would keep that placeholder name as
it's part of my research progress. Add a new AKA when you know their
name, and swap it with the current main (placeholder) name.

When you discover the father of each child, he can be added (if
necessary) and linked to the child and mother.

Yes, this naming method might look a bit funny in reports - this does
not bother me. I generally suppress all private information when I run a
report to share with another person, and that includes names in privacy
brackets.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

GeoPappas wrote on 25/02/2015 10:46:
 I have a 1910 U.S. Federal Census that states that a mother had born
 10 children, but only 7 were alive at that time.  What would be the
 best way to add the 3 unknown children?

 I believe that this will help me to remember that the children existed
 and to search for a birth and death certificate for them and hopefully
 eventually get their names at some point.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade to Legacy v8?

[Wendy Howard]

It is free to download Legacy (any version) and install it.

If you want to unlock the additional features that come with the Deluxe
edition, you will need to pay for that.  The program will not ask you
for money, though - you buy Deluxe (online via the Legacy web site, via
a third-party seller...) and then you get a code to unlock it.  It's the
same program, just with extra features available to you.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

M Ross wrote on 12/02/2015 04:48:
 Since I have absolutely no information anymore what happens if I
 download these programs and will I have to pay for them




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Re: [LegacyUG] File Maintenance

[Wendy Howard]

Wait.  :-)

Wendy

Pat Hickin wrote on 12/02/2015 17:51:
 I am doing File Maintenance-Check/Repair.
 I have c 9000 people in my database and ordinarily it takes c 2-3
 minutes to complete.  It has been running an hour or so now  the
 progress bar is not showing that it has gotten _any_where yet.

 Legacy Help, of course is not accessible.

 So what do I do now??

 Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] Test

[Wendy Howard]

What problem is that, June? Sorry, I don't recall if you've posted before.

If it is that you are not receiving the LUG posts, write to Legacy
Support for assistance. It's a frequent problem that we (fellow Legacy
users) are unable to help you with.

If it's something else, please tell us some details about what's going
on and what you've done so far to try and fix it.

Lastly, if you want to reply, please send it to the list and not to me
personally (I'm sending a copy directly to you in case you're not
receiving the mail).

Wendy

June wrote on 24/01/2015 19:42:

 Apologies to everyone but I am still trying to resolve my problem.

 Regards – June





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Re: [LegacyUG] File Name

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Nancy,

When you install Dropbox's program on your computer, it creates a folder
called Dropbox on your computer.  It might be under My Documents (or
equivalent), or it might be under your username - I'm not sure what the
default is these days.

Any file or folder you put in that folder called Dropbox will be
uploaded automatically to their servers.

I subscribe to Dropbox, so have more than the free space (1TB plus the
free space) and I keep *everything* of value to me within the Dropbox
folder, including my Legacy files.

You can keep your Legacy file anywhere on your computer - in the default
place or somewhere else. Under Dropbox, I have a folder called
Genealogy, where I also have more folders for all my family tree stuff,
including one called Legacy Data - that's where I keep my Legacy files.

As long as your computer is online, whatever is in Dropbox will
synchronise with their servers automatically as they're updated or
saved. If the computer is not online all the time, it will synchronise
whatever needs to be when it is next online.

If you have only the free Dropbox space to play with, you could choose
to put EITHER your Legacy file OR the backup into Dropbox - save the
rest of your free space for things that really matter to you. Either
way, if you need to retrieve the copy from Dropbox at any stage, you've
got an up-to-date file to work with.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Nancy Paget wrote on 23/01/2015 14:31:
 I tried to change the my file name to Nancys Legacy Family Tree.
 Something simple and easy to read. This is was shows at the top of my
 program:
 [C:\Users\Nancy\AppData\Local\Temp\Temp1_tmgged080122014-12-13-6.03.58_PM[1].zip\Nancys
 Legacy Family Tree.fdb]
 How do I do to make it look like it should?
 Why do I have it buried behind all that stuff?
 A 2nd Question:
 What do I put in Dropbox in order to use it on my other computer as well?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of Sourcewriter sources

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Hi Barbara,

What you seem to be missing is that we're all invididuals with our own
likes and dislikes, needs and preferences, and just because you like the
way Source Writer presents its sources doesn't mean it works for
everyone, whether it is for aesthetic or technical reasons.

Legacy is a very flexible program, and we can all make our own choices
about how to use its features to our own benefit and liking.

It's not right or wrong. It's just different.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Barbara Shroyer wrote on 19/01/2015 10:37:
 Confused.  SourceWriter sources are much better than the basic sources.  My 
 sources imported from TMG into Legacy as Basic and I'm in the slow process of 
 changing them to SourceWriter.  The SourceWriter sources are better written.  
 They also have the Full Citation, Subsequent Citation, and Bibliography while 
 Basic does not.  What am I missing in this thread?
 Barbara




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Re: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of Sourcewriter sources

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Pat,

How many Source Writer sources are there that need to be changed in your
database?

If it's only a few, you could simply set up a new Basic Source for each,
copying over the relevant information, and then apply that source to
each field where the Source Writer source is used. Once that's done,
remove the old SW source from those fields, and delete the Master Source
when there are no longer any people using it.

That way, you avoid loosing the other data that Sherry mentioned in her
post. And you might even spot a few old mistakes along the way that you
hadn't noticed before, and have the opportunity to correct them.

This is a suggestion only - you're the only one can decide if it's a
feasible option for you and your database. :-)

Wendy


Pat Hickin wrote on 19/01/2015 02:19:
 I'm thinking of exporting my entire family file to a .gedcom and
 reimporting it..

 Will exporting it to a Legacy file do that? Do I have to export to a
 .gedcom 5.1?

 What other options do I need to choose?

 Sometimes in the events section remarks seem to get converted to
 initial caps so that He owned a farm in Virginia. appears as He
 Owned a Farm in Virginia.  Is there any way to avoid that?

 What is the downside to doing this?

 Thanks,
 Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] Returning to Legacy - general questions

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Hi Arthur,

I was a bit concerned that the initial set-up file was 60MB. When
patches/updates are released, does this involve downloading a similar
size file each time, or are they much smaller? And how often might I
expect them to be released?

In previous versions of Legacy an update would involve downloading only
the changes, but my understanding is that with Legacy 8 the whole file
has to be downloaded each time (I could be wrong about this). As you
said, it shouldn't be an issue with broadband, or you could plan to do
the download when you're accessing free Wi-Fi.

Updates are issued when they're ready to go out. There is no schedule,
and no advance warning that it's coming. I haven't kept an accurate
track, but there have been at least four updates to v8 since it was
first released a bit over a year ago.

You do not have to download an update just because it is available - you
can wait until it suits you to do so, and carry on using the release
you've already got until then. You do not even need to download it
directly to the particular computer you're going to install it on - you
could download it to another computer and transfer it across, before
installing.

I've come across some positive reviews, but again have a bit of concern
over the fairly negative comments about v.8 on the Gensoft Reviews site.
Is anyone able to comment on that, please?

I don't know that site and can't make any comment about what has been
posted there. But keep in mind that if you do now know the reviewers
from elsewhere, do you actually know they're real people? Do you know if
they have an axe to grind that is not declared? It's the same with
positive reviews - unless you know the reviewer, it might be a fake.
Treat them with a grain of salt.

If you have particular concerns over anything that has been mentioned in
a review, you could ask us about them here, so you can hear from people
who you know are actually using the program.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Arthur  Pauline Kennedy wrote on 11/01/2015 09:17:
 Hi everyone

 I was a keen user of Legacy 4  5 until about 8-9 years ago, but then
 switched to another program. For various reasons I am now considering
 switching back to Legacy, but before doing so would want to be sure that
 the factors which influenced my previous decision no longer apply. (I
 also have a few more specific questions about program features which I
 will be asking separately.)

 First, I was at that time disappointed in the charting that Legacy
 offered and had been planning to buy an extra charting program, but then
 I discovered that for less money I could buy a complete program with
 integrated charting that I liked, so it was a bit of a no-brainer. Now
 the charting in Legacy looks to me to be vastly improved, but it would
 be helpful to know whether there is any widespread feeling that add-ons
 are still necessary.

 Second, I was then using dial-up internet, and the number and size of
 updates was more than I could manage. I now have broadband so this
 probably isn't an issue, but I was a bit concerned that the initial
 set-up file was 60MB. When patches/updates are released, does this
 involve downloading a similar size file each time, or are they much
 smaller? And how often might I expect them to be released?

 Finally, I've been playing around a bit with the Standard version and I
 think I would probably be happy to use Legacy again. I've come across
 some positive reviews, but again have a bit of concern over the fairly
 negative comments about v.8 on the Gensoft Reviews site. Is anyone able
 to comment on that, please?

 Thanks,

 Arthur





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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses

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Hi Arthur,

In Legacy, there are addresses and locations. They might appear to be
the same, but they're separate fields in the program.

1... the Event Address list contains a lot of duplicates... Is there a
way to get round this so that they are automatically combined?

I choose to put the entire address into the Location field, and don't
use the Event Address field at all (except for some early entries that I
haven't changed yet). That's my choice, others may do things differently
- Legacy is a very flexible program, so there are choices like this to
be made.

In my experience, before I made this decision to use only Locations,
you're not given the opportunity to apply an existing address. This does
happen in the Location field, which was one of my reasons for going the
way I did. Mind, I've been doing it this way for years now and there may
have been changes made to this area of the program in the meantime. You
may find the Help useful to find out more.

You can combine Event Addresses if you wish - go to the Master Event
Address List (View  Master Lists  Address Lists  Event), select one
address then click on the button Combine the highlighted event address
with another one in the list; next click on the address you want to
combine this one with, then click on the button which now says
Highlight the Destination, then Click this Button. You've now combined
the two addresses, and only the second one remains in the list.

2. Some of the imported addresses show n/a -  before the address.
What does this mean, and is there a way to prevent it?

n/a usually means not applicable. I don't know if you can prevent that
from appearing.

3. What is the best way to differentiate between apparently identical
addresses which belong in different locations (eg St Peter's Church in
two different towns)?

My choice is to include the street address if I know it, and the town,
county (or whatever it is called in this particular place), and country.
I put all of this into the Location field.  For example (and I've made
these up so don't go looking for them!):

St Paul's Church, corner Smith Road and East Street, York, England
St Paul's Church, Little Town, New Zealand
St Paul's Church, 509 Hillside Avenue, San Francisco, California, United
States of America

When you open the Master Location List you can sort the locations in a
variety of ways. I usually find left to right and right to left all
I need. The former will sort all three of these locations above
together, the latter will sort them amongst other locations in the same
country, etc. Either way, they're very easily found when you need to do
that.

I've taken screen shots of what portions of my Master Location List look
like, if you're interested:

Sorted left-to-right -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3oocgb5xlmuvimv/Screenshot%202015-01-13%2013.45.48.png?dl=0

Sorted right-to-left -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/crpp71asle77t7h/Screenshot%202015-01-13%2013.53.57.png?dl=0

It can be an interesting exercise looking through this list. In the
second image, for example, I can see locations where I've forgotten to
put in the country! Waipukurau and Wairakei are both in New Zealand, as
is Wellington, and there's an Australian location there, too. It will be
a very quick exercise for me to correct these via the Master Location List.

Hope this gives you some food for thought. :-)

Wendy

Arthur  Pauline Kennedy wrote on 11/01/2015 09:27:
 I'm thinking of returning to Legacy after an 8-9 year absence and have
 been looking at the Standard version (8.0.0.459). I'm trying to work out
 how I would deal with Event Addresses, which appear to be handled a bit
 differently from the program I am currently using.

 1. Looking at it straight after importing a GEDCOM, it appears that the
 Event Address list contains a lot of duplicates, and that each instance
 that was used in the other program has become a separate item in Legacy.
 Is there a way to get round this so that they are automatically combined?

 2. Some of the imported addresses show n/a -  before the address. What
 does this mean, and is there a way to prevent it?

 3. What is the best way to differentiate between apparently identical
 addresses which belong in different locations (eg St Peter's Church in
 two different towns)? I've experimented with putting the town next to
 the church name, but in [[privacy brackets]], and this seems to work,
 but is there a better way? I'd want to make sure that reports didn't
 look silly with the location name repeated, and that any GEDCOM export
 also made sense.

 Thanks for any help,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Separating lines

[Wendy Howard]

Hi John,

If I were you, I would keep to the one file, and extract the desired
information when needed - but that's me, having started with two files -
one each for myself and my partner - and eventually merging them into
one file. I know you've been around here long enough to have put some
thought into it, so not going to try and persuade you to change your
mind. :-)

Unlinking is the first step towards creating the two files. Now you need
to make a copy of the file, and in one delete the tree containing the
adoptive side (so it only contains the 'biologicals'), and in the other
file delete the tree containing the 'biologicals' (so it only contains
the adoptive side).

It's fairly quick to remove an entire tree from a file that contains
more than one tree. First identify an unused Tag you can use for this
project. Then go to Tree Finder (View  Trees), Refresh, then locate the
tree to be removed and click on it. Next, select the tag you're going to
use, then click on the button Tag the Entire Tree of the Highlighted
Individual.

Now you're ready to go to Advanced Deleting (Tools  Advanced Deleting)
where you can delete everyone who has that tag.

Do make a backup of your file before you start, and to be extra cautious
you may even like to make two copies of the file and work with those so
your original file remains unchanged. That way, if you make a mistake or
change your mind about what you want to do, you've still got that file
to go back to if needed.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

hwedhlor wrote on 11/01/2015 17:33:
 I have a legacy database created in 7.5. The database includes both my
 biological and adoptive relatives.  There are 5265 individuals in the
 database and 1776 families.  For several years I have worked on all
 lines from within this single database without complications,
 switching between biological and adoptive lines by clicking on the
 margin to the side of my parents.  Now I find it desirable to separate
 the two lines in order to more conveniently interface with relatives
 from one side or the other.  I am also moving to Legacy 8.

 I would like to separate the two lines (biological and adoptive) by
 creating two new databases.  I would like the name index lists for the
 biological database to include only biological relatives, and vice
 versa.  I had hoped that by unlinking myself from my adoptive parents
 in the original database I could save the biological lines to a new
 database and the name index would not inlcude any of the adoptive
 lines.  That was not the case.

 How can I create a biological database without having to manually
 delete all the adoptive names, and vice versa?

 John Zimmerman
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Re: [LegacyUG] Making Changes to a Descendant Report

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Margaret,

There is a free program called CutePDF that I find very handy. You'll
find it at http://www.cutepdf.com/

My one word of warning about this program - keep your eyes open when
installing it, it will offer you one or more free additional programs
such as an anti-virus program or the awful Ask, and the box(es) to
accept these are checked automatically (but easily unchecked with a
click); I recommend not accepting those offers, and only installing CutePDF.

Once installed, it appears to act like a physical printer - go to print
your report/document/whatever, and Cute PDF will be one of the
printers you have installed on the computer. When you choose that as
your printer and continue, you'll then be asked where you want to put
the file, and what to call it.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Margaret Gagliardi wrote on 30/12/2014 04:53:
 Thank you Alan.  Will I then be able to put it back into the PDF
 format, and have all the changes made? Also to have all the photos
 show, or do I have to do all of that manually?  I have found a few
 typos, etc.

 Margaret

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Alan Pereira
 alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Generate the report as a Rich Text File and edit it in a word
 processor.

 Alan Pereira

 *From:*Margaret Gagliardi [mailto:megsge...@gmail.com
 mailto:megsge...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 29 December 2014 14:14
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Making Changes to a Descendant Report

 Can someone tell me how to get a Descendant Report into a format
 that I can make changes to it?  For example:  I see single lines
 that stand by themselves and I want to push another line down with
 it, or I see a line that needs to have a return after it.  I have
 680 pages and I want to be able to work the entire report as I go
 through it page by page.

 Thanks

 Margaret





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Re: [LegacyUG] error 3035

[Wendy Howard]

Contact Legacy Support directly - they may be able to assist you in ways
that we're unable to. :-)

Wendy

Kirstin wrote on 28/12/2014 11:57:
 Ok, now I am worried. I restored from the last 5 backups and they all
 still get error 3035 when I run check repair so it was not the crash
 that caused the problem. I can't say when the last time I ran
 check/repair but obviously should have been running it more frequently.
 I don't want to export to a gedcom and lose my sourcewriter sources. I
 have worked very hard to have the sources look the way I want. Any other
 ideas?

 Kirstin

 On 12/26/2014 8:45 PM, Kirstin wrote:
 I am using Legacy 8, version 8.0.0.459 on a Windows 7 computer. I was
 running set relationships when my computer crashed. Since then I get
 error 3035. I got several error messages before that, which I managed to
 resolve, but am stuck at 3035 (not may favorite of all the error
 messages I've gotten over the years). I compacted. I followed the
 directions under error number on the support page. I uninstalled,
 booted, reinstalled. Still error 3035. I'd rather not do anything
 drastic as I have a backup and have just done piddly little things since
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digest version

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Don,

As others have said, there is no digest for this list.

A better way to manage your mail than digests (which are untimely and
awkward to reply to), is to manage your mail box with filters. Or rules,
the name varies depending on the program/service you use.

The idea here is to create a filter that will identify the list mail,
and divert it to a folder of its own. This way, it's out of the way of
the mail that has been sent to you personally (friends, business, etc)
and you can ignore it all until you're ready to read it. Once read, the
posts can be deleted if that's what you want to do with them.

I wrote some instructions for this, for another list, some years ago -
you'll find those at
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/How-to.htm#RuleFilter
Even if your specific service/program isn't covered there, you should be
able to get the gist of it, and if you need further assistance check the
Help file that comes with that service/program.

Use the list's email address to identify list mail - it's the To:
address in each post.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy


Don Henderson said the following on 18/12/2014 14:40:
 Hi Support Team
 Does Legacy not have a Digest Version of the list?
 Every one I have ever been on has one.  I find it too bothersome to
 find 15 to 20 messages in my Inbox every day, on top of all my friends
 and business e-mails.
 Thanks,
 Don Henderson



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Re: [LegacyUG] This letter (Â). What does it signify?

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Charles,

It is something to do with the mailing list software not interpreting
the text of a submitted post, as far as I can see.

If I forget I'm writing a LUG post and type as I normally would, when I
receive my own copy of the post it will have those characters placed
where I had typed two spaces, as I normally do between sentences. If I
put one space (as there is at the start of this sentence), there's no
funny A.  But if there are two spaces (as there are here, deliberately),
there is. (Now to hope that it behaves as predicted, and you see what I
intend you to see!)

Just ignore it, it is meaningless here.

Wendy

Charles Brasell said the following on 17/12/2014 12:15:
 This letter (Â). What does it signify?

 I seem to run into it here and there

 Charles Brasell



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Re: [LegacyUG] Help

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Shannon,

This is a known problem with this mailing list, sadly. You need to
contact Legacy Support and tell them the problem - they are able to do
something to make it work as it should for you.

Kind Regards,
Wendy

PS sending a copy of this email directly to Shannon as well as to the list.

Shannon Thomas said the following on 17/12/2014 16:13:
 I have signed up for this mailing list a couple of times but I have
 never gotten any messages.

 Can anyone help?

 Thank you!

 Shannon Thomas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Installation Problem

[Wendy Howard]

Did you install the program after you downloaded the file? It's not
clear from what you've said.

Also, did you install it in the default location, or did you direct it
to install someplace else?

Wendy

Murphy Miller said the following on 6/12/2014 06:55:
 I just purchase Legacy 8 and when I attempt to open, the error message
 is Error Opening Message File, Active X component can't create object.

 Any help on resolving this would be appreciated.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Media (Specifically, Copies of Documents)

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Hi Dennis,

It depends on how you use the Master Source, whether in your particular
situation it is better to attach the image to the Master Source or the
Source Detail.

An example...  you have your great-grandmother's birth certificate. Ask
yourself this question - do you set up a new Master Source for that
certificate alone, or do you use a Master Source that covers all birth
certificates for that country/state/county/whatever?

There isn't a right answer here, only the answer that works for you.

Some people will set up a new Master Source for each certificate they
acquire. We call that splitting on this mailing list; you end up with
a lot of Master Sources this way. In this situation you probably won't
use the Source Detail very much, and it's appropriate to attach an image
to the Master Source.

Other people will set up a Master Source for all birth certificates they
acquire of the same type, and then put the information specific to each
item in the Source Detail. In this situation, I'd attach an image to the
Source Detail, so that each citation has an image relevant to its use.
We call this lumping on this mailing list.

I tend to do a bit of both. When I first started entering sources, I set
up a separate Master Source for each certificate I had. Later on, when
I'd learned more and thought about what I wanted, I changed to using one
Master Source for all New Zealand birth certificates, and another for
all New Zealand birth registrations (a copy of the Registrar's book,
we're a bit different in this country!), and others for marriages and
deaths, and repeat for England, and Scotland, and for each state in
Australia from which I've acquired documents, and so on.

One day I might change all those early entries and get rid of the Master
Sources that cover one piece of paper alone, but then I may never get
around to that. Either way, the information is still stored and can be
properly interpreted by anyone reading my data.

Where I've cited a book, I set up a Master Source for the book as a
whole, and then in the Source Detail I put the information about which
page a piece of information came from. Here, I could put an image of the
book cover in the Master, and an image of a page in the Detail, if I so
desired.

So think about what works for you, and go with that. Keep asking
questions here - the program is very flexible, and there are usually at
least two ways of doing something. Which is right, depends on your
preferences and expectations.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Dennis Holtby said the following on 6/12/2014 16:13:
 Okay folks,  Newbie Dude here but, I'm seriously confused by all the
 options available regarding Master Sources and Details.

 Since it is possible to do in both places, is it best to attach copies
 of documents (or pictures) to the Master Source or, as part of the
 Detail (using the Source Writer), which is the best place to use to
 add them?  Specifically, I referring to attaching copies of
 Birth/Death Certificates, Census Pages, etc.

 Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Dennis



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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrading to Version 8

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Nancy,

Legacy v8 by default installs itself in a different place to Legacy v7;
you can have both installed and running at the same time.

What you can't do is have the exact same data file open in both at the
same time. But then, the v7 data file is going to be upgraded to the new
format when you open it in v8 (you'll see options when you go to do so
about keeping the original, making a copy, etc), so a v8 file is not
going to open in v7 anyway.

If you want to be absolutely safe, do a backup of the v7 file, make a
copy of the data file, and work with the copy in v8 - but that's
probably overkill (though reassuring that your original file is not
being touched).

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy


Nancy Stevens said the following on 3/12/2014 08:04:
 I am using Legacy 7.5 on a Windows 7 machine.  I just purchased
 version 8.  Should I uninstall version 7 before installing version 8?
 Any other tips or advice from those who have gone before?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Customing a Global Event

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Hi Nancy,

In the Individual's Information Page, that set of fields between birth
and death can be altered to read either Chr/Christening or Bap/Baptism.
Those are the only choices there, and you can change them at option 3.10
(Options  Customise).

When you're looking at the Family View, you can see five fields of data
for the central couple. These can be customised to show whatever you
want, so here you could replace the default christening field with
another data field if that suited you better.

Say you use the event called BarMitzvah (as an example) and want that to
show in Family View...

1. Click on the LABELS to the left of the actual data.

2. Pick which field you want to change, and click on the three dots
button beside it.

3. A list of Field Names to Display pops up - scroll up or down as
necessary to click on/select the field you want, in this case we're
going for Event...; click the Select button when you've made your choice.

3a. Next, because you selected Event..., you need to further define
which event you're going to display - scroll down (if necessary) until
you see the one called BarMitzvah and click on it; click on the Select
button when you've done that.

4. You're nearly there - the Field Name on that line in the Customise
window has now changed to show Event: BarMitzvah. Take a look at the
Names to Display and Short Name fields alongside, and check they say
what you want them to say; click in the field and alter it if you want
to do so.

5. Click on the Close button.

6. You're done! :-)

This is also covered in the Help files within Legacy - look up Family
View, Customize for more information.

It might be that there is no existing event that covers what you're
wanting to show. That's okay - you can create your own event that is
structured the way you want it to be. Tell us if you want to know more
about this, or go to the Help in Legacy and look up Event - there's a
list of topics under that, and you'll likely find the ones for Add,
Create sentences and Edit helpful.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Nancy L said the following on 30/11/2014 11:39:
 Hi - Maybe someone can help me (or at least tell me it can't be done).

 On the Individual's Information Page there is the event Chr for
 Christening.  As I am researching a Jewish family, this event and the
 Chr are not really relevant for me.  I would like to use this space
 for another event _and_ change the Chr to something else.  Is there
 a way that I can do this?

 Thank you.

 Nancy



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Re: [LegacyUG] No Messages!

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Charles,

Your post has been received on the mailing list. :-)

New members not receiving the mail is a common problem here,
unfortunately. You need to contact Legacy Support, and they will be able
to do something to help you out.

Kind Regards,
Wendy

PS sending a copy direct to Charles as well as to the list.


Charles Brasell said the following on 16/11/2014 16:48:
 I verified my subscription about 10 days ago and  have had no mail yet.
 Could someone confirm I am subscribed ?

 Charles Brasell



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Re: [LegacyUG] facebook becomes a primary source

[Wendy Howard]

I have created a Basic Source:

Source List Name: Website - Facebook.com
Type: Web Site
Title: www.facebook.com

All other fields are blank.

When I use this source, I put the pertinent information about the post
concerned in the Source Detail, ie the name of the person under whose
account the post was made (their real name as well as their Facebook
name, if they're different), the date of the post, when I read it
(retrieved). Depending on the situation, I often also put a copy of
the post itself in the Text field.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Barbara Schwarting said the following on 10/11/2014 00:28:
 How are listers handling facebook as a source for births, deaths, and
 etc?  During the past month I’ve received notification of two deaths
 and two births through facebook..  The births had pictures from the
 hospital.
 I would appreciate your thoughts regarding the use of these and how
 you document and use the photos.
 Barb



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Re: [LegacyUG] sentence override

[Wendy Howard]

What do you have in the date field?

Wendy

Kirstin said the following on 31/10/2014 11:41:
 I must be doing something wrong. I am using Legacy 8.0.8.454 on a
 Windows 7 computer. I have added a Marriage License event to a person
 instead of a couple since I don't plan on adding the spouse (unless he
 is otherwise connected to the family). Without the override it says she
 got a license to marry herself. So in the override I add

 [FirstName] obtained a license to marry [Desc] [onDate]. where [Desc] is
 the name of the spouse.

 I expect to see that she obtained a license to marry so and so on such
 and such a date.

 But the date doesn't show up. Just that she obtained a license to marry
 so and so.

 Not sure what I'm doing wrong.




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Re: [LegacyUG] sentence override

[Wendy Howard]

Gee, another rant from CE - what a surprise. (not!)

So this problem of Kirsten's is caused a known bug - I was wondering if
that was the issue after I sent my last post, but hadn't gotten around
to checking that out yet. In that case it is known by the people at
Legacy, and it will be fixed when it is fixed.

Meanwhile, get over yourself, CE. I wouldn't be surprised if there are
members of this list who delete your posts unread, just to avoid your
vindictive bile. I certainly don't read right through - a couple of
lines is usually enough before I'm reaching for the delete key, and had
to go and find this post of yours in the trash to reply to it once I'd
thought about it a while.

Kirsten, don't be put off by CE's response; he has a bee in his bonnet
about v8 and puts it down every opportunity he gets. If this bug is the
reason your date is not showing, then it is nothing you are doing wrong.
It will be fixed in time. :-)

Wendy

CE WOOD said the following on 31/10/2014 13:02:
 You're not doing anything wrong. This is another instance of a
 *_major_* bug in Events overrides. It has been reported before, but
 not in the Marriage Event. How discouraging that Legacy 8 is unusable
 in its major strong suit, which used to be allowing for individual
 tweaking. They have s many bugs to fix, create more when they fix
 some, and seem unable to keep up. No wonder smart people still use
 7.5. There is truth in the old adage, if it ain't broke.  Legacy 7.5
 is wonderful, but they have so much to do trying to keep 8 going that
 they can't support 7.5 any more. All the bells and whistles in the
 world don't matter when you can't do the basics. It was certainly
 released much too early. I hope they get their act together soon. I
 know of more that 50 people who have abandoned Legacy 8, some
 reverting to 7.5 via the less than ideal means of a GEDCOM, and others
 who need a stable database. SIGH! Why spoil a good track record with this?

 Hang in there or revert to 7.5 if need be until they get on track.


 CE

  From: genealogylady...@verizon.net
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] sentence override
  Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:41:27 -0400
 
  I must be doing something wrong. I am using Legacy 8.0.8.454 on a
  Windows 7 computer. I have added a Marriage License event to a person
  instead of a couple since I don't plan on adding the spouse (unless he
  is otherwise connected to the family). Without the override it says she
  got a license to marry herself. So in the override I add
 
  [FirstName] obtained a license to marry [Desc] [onDate]. where
 [Desc] is
  the name of the spouse.
 
  I expect to see that she obtained a license to marry so and so on such
  and such a date.
 
  But the date doesn't show up. Just that she obtained a license to marry
  so and so.
 
  Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
  --
  Kirstin



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Re: [LegacyUG] sentence override

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Kirstin,

I've gone back through my mail and found the recent thread where a bug
was discussed that involves dates in events. The subject line was

[LegacyUG] Dates on Event Sentences

The original query posted sounds just like yours. Elsie said:

I was entering some events today when I noticed that Event Sentences
were leaving out the dates even when the Event Sentence Definition
includes dates. For example: The Event Sentence Description reads
[firstname] [desc] [onDate] for “David was in school on 7 Jun 1900.”
The sentence I get is “David was in school on.” 

Michelle and Brian from Legacy Support posted a couple of responses in
that thread, saying it was a known bug. Brian said just yesterday in
this thread:

The date problem is restricted to custom sentences using the override
tab, dates are not included using the [date] or [ondate] fields there.

It does not affect the vast majority who use only the standard
sentences nor does it affect the saving of the dates in the database.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy


Kirstin said the following on 31/10/2014 14:09:
 Do we know that it is a bug? I have my dates in this format:

 23 Mar 1942

 And that is the actual date.

 Kirstin

 On 10/30/2014 8:44 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
 Gee, another rant from CE - what a surprise. (not!)

 So this problem of Kirsten's is caused a known bug - I was wondering if
 that was the issue after I sent my last post, but hadn't gotten around
 to checking that out yet. In that case it is known by the people at
 Legacy, and it will be fixed when it is fixed.

 Meanwhile, get over yourself, CE. I wouldn't be surprised if there are
 members of this list who delete your posts unread, just to avoid your
 vindictive bile. I certainly don't read right through - a couple of
 lines is usually enough before I'm reaching for the delete key, and had
 to go and find this post of yours in the trash to reply to it once I'd
 thought about it a while.

 Kirsten, don't be put off by CE's response; he has a bee in his bonnet
 about v8 and puts it down every opportunity he gets. If this bug is the
 reason your date is not showing, then it is nothing you are doing wrong.
 It will be fixed in time. :-)

 Wendy

 CE WOOD said the following on 31/10/2014 13:02:
 You're not doing anything wrong. This is another instance of a
 *_major_* bug in Events overrides. It has been reported before, but
 not in the Marriage Event. How discouraging that Legacy 8 is unusable
 in its major strong suit, which used to be allowing for individual
 tweaking. They have s many bugs to fix, create more when they fix
 some, and seem unable to keep up. No wonder smart people still use
 7.5. There is truth in the old adage, if it ain't broke.  Legacy 7.5
 is wonderful, but they have so much to do trying to keep 8 going that
 they can't support 7.5 any more. All the bells and whistles in the
 world don't matter when you can't do the basics. It was certainly
 released much too early. I hope they get their act together soon. I
 know of more that 50 people who have abandoned Legacy 8, some
 reverting to 7.5 via the less than ideal means of a GEDCOM, and others
 who need a stable database. SIGH! Why spoil a good track record with this?

 Hang in there or revert to 7.5 if need be until they get on track.


 CE

 From: genealogylady...@verizon.net
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] sentence override
 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:41:27 -0400

 I must be doing something wrong. I am using Legacy 8.0.8.454 on a
 Windows 7 computer. I have added a Marriage License event to a person
 instead of a couple since I don't plan on adding the spouse (unless he
 is otherwise connected to the family). Without the override it says she
 got a license to marry herself. So in the override I add

 [FirstName] obtained a license to marry [Desc] [onDate]. where
 [Desc] is
 the name of the spouse.

 I expect to see that she obtained a license to marry so and so on such
 and such a date.

 But the date doesn't show up. Just that she obtained a license to marry
 so and so.

 Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
 --
 Kirstin



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Re: [LegacyUG] uploading legacy information to the web

[Wendy Howard]

...I just need to find a host.

You could do worse than Rootsweb's Freepages. Take a look at the links
under Websites at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/

Despite it being owned by Ancestry, this service is free. There's also a
mailing list for peer support, like this one for Legacy.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/


Rohl - Gmail said the following on 28/10/2014 12:44:
 Gentlemen,  Thanks so much for the responses.  Ron, I am not sure I need a 
 cloud version of Legacythe web site option is fine, as I went through the 
 procedure to attempt to publish web pages with legacy on the desk top version 
 I have.   I have a ftp software program I downloaded, and suppose I need a 
 host.  I use centurylink as my ISP, however, they don’t host on the retail 
 level, just the business accounts.  If Bernd, your procedure works, it may be 
 good enough to start with.  Again, I just need to find a host.  Thanks,  John

 -Original Message-
 From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:22 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading legacy information to the web

 Bernie,

 Jerry, as I understood his original post, was asking for an in the cloud 
 version of Legacy and not a web site.

 Ron Ferguson

 Sent from my Xperiaâ„¢ smartphone

 Bernd Hornung ber@telus.net wrote:

 I chose Legacy because it generates its own web pages and imbeds the
 pictures.  No messing with geds.  Just need a host, ftp program and
 maybe a basic web editor.  It's not perfect and there are lots of
 things that I would lie to see added (i.e. relationships to base
 person) but for a basic presence on the Internet it works.

 Bernie


 On 27/10/2014 4:32 PM, Jerry wrote:
 I asked the same question the other day and was told by support and
 several others that there is no web-based version of Legacy Family
 Tree and I guess they are not that interested in developing one.Â
 It's a shame because it would only add to the stature of Legacy, not
 detract from it in any way.  But TNG is not really a competitor to
 Legacy because they are specifically designed for a web presence and,
 as far as I know, they are the best thing available for a web-based
 presence on your own website.  Many, many people, not just a few -
 use Legacy on their desktops and TNG on their websites, including
 me.    Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org



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Re: [LegacyUG] uploading legacy information to the web

[Wendy Howard]

I think you misunderstand what the Rootsweb Freepages are about. It is
free web site space for genealogists to upload their own HTML web pages.
It is not a database*.

  * If a database service is what you want, you might want to
look at Rootsweb's World Connect (http://wc.rootsweb.ances
try.com/), where you can upload your own GEDCOM file and
also download a file from someone else's tree, all for free.

Anyone with an internet connection can look at other people's web pages
at Freepages, and there is nothing stopping anyone from copying the data
found within. There is no facility there for downloading a GEDCOM from
those pages.

At Freepages you can upload the web pages you've generated in Legacy (to
drag the conversation back to this list's topic). You'll need an FTP
program (File Transfer Protocol) to upload your pages - I use FileZilla,
which is also free. You can get assistance with that at the Freepages
support mailing list if you choose to use that site.

If neither of these suit you, there are other sites where you can upload
pages or data. Tribal Pages is one that springs to mind. A distant
cousin uses it; I think he thinks his data is 'safe' because it's
'protected' with a login requirement, but I don't think he realises that
another distant cousin told me the password long before I was in contact
with him - perhaps not so secure after all. But still a useful service
in its own right.

You can also upload a GEDCOM at My Heritage, Ancestry, Genes Reunited...
lots of different services, each with their own quirks, so you need to
look around for yourself and find the one that works how you want it to.

To generate web pages in Legacy, press Ctrl-W to access via keyboard
shortcut or click on Internet in the menu at the top of the Legacy window.

There are lots of options to consider - check the Help files or post
here if you need help understanding what any of them mean.

You can also take a thorough look at the resulting pages without
uploading them to a web site** so you can play around with the various
settings and see what effect they have without exposing your pages to
the rest of the world.

  ** When Legacy generates the web pages they're on your own
 hard disk, and you can open them in your web browser as
 if they were online.

 This feature also makes it a handy way of sharing data
 with other family members who either have no interest in
 using Legacy themselves, or are not online - burn the
 files to a DVD, and the files can be opened from there,
 too. Until you share the files by uploading them online
 or sending a copy to someone else via disk (or USB drive,
 etc) they are on your computer only.

Don't forget to think carefully about the living people in your file,
and whether you want to include them in any online trees or pages, or
not. I choose to only share their first name (or nickname) and surname
when I'm sharing data with others, and in online trees I use a living
placeholder to indicate they exist only. Except for myself, so people
can identify me and see how others relate to me - but again, first and
last name only.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Jerry said the following on 28/10/2014 17:54:
 Does Rootsweb allow you to freely look at their deceased individuals in
 their data to add to your Legacy desktop tree if you find a good
 match?  --Jerry

 On 10/28/2014 12:05 AM, Bryan wrote:
 I concur with Wendy. Rootsweb is where my site is.
 Bryan




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error upon saving event

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Pat,

That number that you can't remember is a vital piece of information!
Next time it happens, please write it down and if you need our help post
to the list and tell us what it is.

The various error numbers can be found at
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/(Legacyfamilytree.com  Help Center
  Troubleshooting Help gets you to the same place) under Error
Messages  Problems.

Meanwhile, it might be that a Check/Repair will solve your problem. Run
a backup first, of course.

Hope this helps. :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Pat Hickin said the following on 22/10/2014 10:13:
 I am frequently getting an error message -- something like number 3470
 -- thought I'd remember it but don't --  when I try to save
 information.  It asks if I want to retry, but answering yes or no does
 no good.  I just have to click Quit.  I can immediately reopen -- no
 info is lost and the second time around I can save without a problem.

 The reason I'm writing is that when I got to the Legacy home page and
 find the error codes, I can't seem to find the 4-digit error number.
 Also Legacy Help doesn't seem to have the error number. Is there a way
 to search either Legacy Help or the Legacy Home page by error
 number???  Sorry I can't remember it.  This is a minor annoyance.

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Merge issue

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Barton,

Perhaps you are not using the right address?  Make sure your posts are
going to legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com - in the copy that came through
from you today (you can see it below) the address has quote marks around
it, maybe that's the issue?

You could try saving the list address from a list post to ensure you
capture it correctly. In some mail programs you can do this by
right-clicking on the address you want to save, then selecting the
option to add it to the address book.

If that's not the problem, contact Legacy Support, maybe they can help
you with that problem.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Kathy Meyer said the following on 14/10/2014 17:10:
 You have to unlink the one set.   I had this happen awhile back and it
 affected a few hundred marriages.  The group here helped me figure out
 the best way to go about getting rid of the duplicates and making sure
 they were all gone.  Very annoying bug but relatively simple to fix.

 Kathy

 On Monday, October 13, 2014, Barton Lewis bartonle...@optonline.net
 mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net wrote:

 This is the second time I have posted to the list and my post has
 not shown up.  Please let me know the issue with my posts not
 showing.  I am forwarding my original post from last night.

 Thank you.

 Barton Lewis

 *From:* Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bartonle...@optonline.net');]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 12:27 AM
 *To:* 'LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com'
 *Subject:* Merge issue

 I merged a relative with his duplicate.  Now his parents are
 showing 2 marriages – each to the same spouse, twice.  My relative
 has a section symbol after his name but his siblings don’t. The
 parents aren’t showing up as duplicates in the index even though
 they are listed twice in the Spouse List. What’s going on here?
 How can I get rid of the extra spouse?

 Thanks,

 Barton




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Re: [LegacyUG] guardianship

[Wendy Howard]

There are a variety of ways you could handle this situation. This is
what I can think of off the top of my head...

1. You can make the guardian a parent to the child, and set a
relationship of 'guardianship' between them - right-click on the child 
Children's Settings

2. You could add an event to one or both of the parties (guardian and
child).

3. You could make notes in one of Notes fields provided (eg, General Notes).

What works for you depends on how you use the program and what you want
to get from it. If none of these jumps out at you as being the solution
you seek, have a play around and see what suits you, if any. It might
even be that two of these used together do the trick for you.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Reuben Marchant said the following on 14/10/2014 14:18:
 How would I add a guardianship to the events/facts?  Should I just add
 it to the general notes?  My 3rd great-grandfather took guardianship
 of  his son's children after the son and his wife died and the
 grandfather was then living with them on their farm. I would like to
 add it to the events/facts so it would show up in the chronology.
 Reuben N. Marchant



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ethnicity

[Wendy Howard]

You could use an Event to record this detail.

Depending on your personal preferences, you could create one event to
record all ethnicities, or a series of events which are each dedicated
to a particular one of your interest. I think I would use one event, and
put the defining term in the Description field. One person could have
more than one event of this type.

You can choose to display a selected event amongst the five fields
displayed in Family View, if it's something you want up front and
visible. Right-click on the field names to bring up the Customise Family
View Information window and make your choices.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy


fersken said the following on 13/10/2014 09:05:
 Since the emergence of the Origin’s Report, I have been considering
 the difference between place of birth and ethnicity.  I have
 Montaukett Indian ancestry in my background but on the Origin’s
 report, the only thing they represent is U.S.
 The*Montaukett*or*Montauk people*are aNative American
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_Statestribe
 ofAlgonquian
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages-speaking people
 from the eastern end ofLong Island
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island,New York
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York.   I have in my direct
 ancestry a chief of the Montaukett named Wyandanch.  In the the second
 half of the 1650s, Wyandanch had acquired enough power and influence
 to be considered the main alliance chief on a Long Island by the
 colonists.  My Origin’s Report  shows United States and I began to
 wonder if Legacy 8.0 had any way of showing ethnicity?  I could find
 nothing on the subject.  In this 21st century in the United States,
 there are many who are of mixed ethnicities.  While I understand the
 problematic concept of setting up a column to show ethnicity and the
 possibility of offending some people, I wonder if there isn’t some way
 to include race*if the researcher wanted to*. The census
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States_Censusofficially
 recognizes six ethnic and racial categories: White American, Native
 American and Alaska Native, Asian American, African American, Native
 Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, and people of two or more races;
 a race called Some other race is also used in the census and other
 surveys, but is not official. The United States Census Bureau also
 classifies Americans as Hispanic or Latino and Not Hispanic or
 Latino, which identifiesHispanic and Latino Americans
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americansas a
 racially diverse/ethnicity/
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States_Censusthat
 composes the largest minority group in the nation.  Apparently, this
 concept of including ethnicity rather that place of origin is too
 “touchy” for any genealogical software company to touch.  My question,
 therefore, is this: Is there any way I can indicate (other than in the
 notes) that some of  my direct ancestors are Native American and not
 mix them together as United States?



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Re: [LegacyUG] How best to keep track

[Wendy Howard]

Tagging was my first thought when I read your original post. A tag for
people you wanted to write about, maybe a tag for those you'd already
written up. But if you use tags for a lot of things you may not have one
or two to spare.

You could also use an event created for the purpose. Then you could
search for people with that event when you wanted to, display it in
Family View if you wanted to. Make notes for when you do get around to
that person, about how you want to do it or what to feature... you can
do whatever you want to do with an event.

Hope this gives you some food for thought. :-)

Wendy

Pat Hickin said the following on 5/10/2014 12:56:
 Well, I suppose I didn't clarify -- is there a way /within/ Legacy to
 keep track -- other than tagging.

 Pat

 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 7:27 PM, David Abernathy
 da...@schmeckabernathy.com mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote:

 Kb,

 I agree with the support staff, this is a Legacy program support
 mailing list, NOT a general family research list.

 I watch this list for Legacy issues NOT general family research
 items. There are other BETTER lists and for boards for the general
 issues.

 Thanks,

 David C Abernathy

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 *From:*britton...@comcast.net mailto:britton...@comcast.net
 [mailto:britton...@comcast.net mailto:britton...@comcast.net]
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 2:03 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com


 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How best to keep track

 It seems a little premature to reject this question out of hand.
 Interesting material about relatives for relatives may not be
 strict genealogy, but many of us use Legacy as family historian's
 tool.  How is it best to use the program to pass things forward,
 or to structure a blog to provide grist for Legacy?  Related, I'm
 of an age when mortality approaches and in failing health. Looking
 back over the decades, I wonder what I should record - and how to
 cite it.

 kb

 

 *From: *Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 *To: *legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent: *Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:40:09 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] How best to keep track

 This is really not a Legacy question, is it?

 From the Legacy User Group Guidelines:

 2. Stay on the topic of Legacy and its add-on programs, which is
 the sole purpose of the LUG User Group.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree

 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
 mailto:pph...@gmail.com wrote:

 In line with Macaulay's famous quote  (A people which takes no
 pride in the noble achievements of remote ancestors will never
 achieve anything worthy to be remembered with pride by remote
 descendants.), I am thinking of doing an ongoing blog about
 interesting relatives for interested relatives.

 Any ideas for an easy and organized way to go about -- and keep
 track -- of the results of my endeavors?

 Thanks,

 Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Event Photos on Webpages

[Wendy Howard]

Where are these web pages? Are they on your hard drive, or have you
uploaded them to a server to view online? If the latter, did you also
upload the photo files?

Wendy

LDB Misc said the following on 29/09/2014 15:40:
 Mary,

 Thanks for the instructions. I do have the Add Event Pictures ticked and they 
 only show on the Pedigree type web page. I prefer the Individual type web 
 page and they aren't showing up.

 -Larry
 
 On Sun, 9/28/14, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Event Photos on Webpages
   To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Date: Sunday, September 28, 2014, 1:52 PM

   Hi Larry

   To show Event Photos on web pages:
   (1) On the ribbon, select  Internet
   (2) Choose the type of Web Pages e.g. Pedigree Style, this
   opens the
   (3) Web Creation dialog box
   (4) Select Tab What
   (5) in 2nd column, under Events, select large button Event
   Options
   (6) Tick Add Event Pictures

   Hope this helps
   Mary




   On 27/09/2014, LDB Misc ldb_m...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
I'm using Legacy 8.0 Family Tree Deluxe Edition, and am
   producing web pages
from it. The problem is, I can't get the Event Photos
   to show on the web
pages. Help!?! Any and all answers will be
   appreciated.
   
Thanks,
Larry



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Re: [LegacyUG] digest mode option

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Kathleen,

As has already been said, there is no digest option for this mailing list.

What you can do instead is manage your own incoming mail differently, so
it behaves in a way that suits your needs.

For all mailing lists I subscribe to (which is many, less than 100 but
probably a lot more than 20), I use a filter to pick out that list mail
and divert it from the Inbox.  Some mailing lists (the busier ones) get
their own folder, others get lumped into one folder - but they're still
away from the Inbox.

I wrote some instructions many years ago and put them on a web page;
it's specifically for a different mailing list to this one, but is
quickly adapted to any mailing list by changing the email address used.
You'll find it at
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/How-to.htm#RuleFilter

... ah, and now that I take another look at that page, I see I haven't
included Thunderbird, which the headers of your post tell me you're
using (and I am, too).  The path you need to take in Thunderbird is
Tools  Message Filters.

Once you've set that filter, your LUG mail will be put into its own
folder (the one you specify in the filter) as it comes in, so it's kept
away from your Inbox.  You'll be able to see at a glance when there's
new mail in it, and you can choose when to go and read it. Meanwhile, if
you need to concentrate on what's in your Inbox (or elsewhere) you can
do so without the LUG mail getting in the way.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy


Kathleen Lenihan said the following on 23/09/2014 04:48:
 Hi,

 I'm a TMG refugee looking for a new home, and recently joined the
 Legacy user group.  Instead of getting individual messages, is a
 digest mode an option?

 Kathleen




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Re: [LegacyUG] Repair issues 8.0

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Steve,

Do any of these people actually have ANY marriages? In either copy of
your database? There is not enough information here for us to tell.

Wendy

Steve Pick said the following on 16/09/2014 03:59:
 I have 7.5 and 8.0. Because of issues some months ago with 8 I decided
 my working copy would be 7.5. I monitor news on 8 and because of
 family search connection I use  8 to look there. I just decided to run
 the repair tool on my data base on 8 and find 5 errors.  All of them
 give a RIN number and error message The preferred Marriage has been
 removed. I looked at 7.5 data with 7.5 and none of the people had a
 preferred marriage. I wonder where the error data entered my 8.0 data
 base? Any ideas?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source a phone call

[Wendy Howard]

Phone calls, etc - I too have a Basic source called Personal Memory, and
another called Personal Correspondence - they're much the same thing,
except for method of delivery. With both, I put information in the
Source Detail field to show who's memory was being recalled
(conversation with Joe Bloggs, for example) or who the correspondence
was from. So it's not just my personal memories covered by this one, and
it's clear to anyone reading it where the information came from.

Facebook - I use this often enough for family data that I've created a
new Basic Source called Website - Facebook.com. The only detail in the
Master Source is the title 'www.facebook.com' (without the quotes). When
I use this source I note in the Source Detail field who made the post
and on what date, and the date I viewed ('retrieved') the post, and may
quote the post in the Text/Comments area if I think it required. If the
person uses a pseudonym on Facebook, I note their Facebook name as well
as their real name.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Jessica Morgan said the following on 4/09/2014 02:30:
 I feel they are all interchangeable to some degree. Personally I have
 created a source called Conversation, and anything done in passing,
 via phone call, off the cuff, etc is sourced that way in my files.

 This begs the question of sourcing more non traditional sources. Has
 anyone broached the issue of sourcing Facebook? We have a family group
 there to keep up with each other, and often times family will post
 birthdays, anniversaries, congratulatory items, births, deaths, and
 photos and documents there to share.

 Jessica


 On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Bobby Johnson b...@brmemc.net
 mailto:b...@brmemc.net wrote:

 I think we could argue Personal Knowledge or Interview and be
 as correct as you can be using either of these.  As was pointed
 out to me offline, it was more of an announcement.  I chose
 Personal Knowledge because I did not interview the first time
 grandmother when she called but copied the information on a
 scratch pad.  As any grandmother would do, she gave the time,
 weight, length and name along with a description of who the baby
 favored.
 Perhaps a template Announcement should be added.
 Bobby



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