[MBZ] Well well well
In advance of selling my 240D to a coworker I went through all the receipts I have and added them up. In the last 48,000 miles and 1 month short of 3 years it cost me right around $6,500 not including fuel but that does include the purchase price. So that seems like around $.0135 a mile. IIRC $0.09 is considered pretty good. So while mine is maybe a bit higher than desirable I'm actually pretty pleased and truth be told if I'd made that calculation 6 months ago I'd probably have pushed another $3k into the car and not bought the 190D thus saving myself untold grief and expense, but oh the 190D driving experience. I've never had a car before that felt so attached to the road, I do like the way that car rides and I think I'll like it even more once the seats are rebuilt, but I digress. At one point I tracked fuel mileage for 7500 miles and had an average around 28 so assuming 26 to be conservative I've burned around 1800 gallons of diesel fuel which if we assume $2/gal cost me around $3692. If I'd driven my pickup at around 17mpg the same distance I'd have spent (assuming the same price just for the sake of argument) around $5647. So the nearly $2000 this car saved me in fuel over 3 years drops (in my mind anyway) its theoretical price of ownership down to $0.09/mile and if I figure in the $800 the rube, I mean new owner is giving me we're down to $0.08/mile which is pretty darned good. Sorry if you are one of those who doesn't care but I sort of like playing with numbers and its a slow night... -Curt - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 00:38:20 2006 Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([68.142.229.96]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFKmo-00054D-Ou for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:38:20 + Received: (qmail 67010 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2006 00:38:14 - Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.154.243.149?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@4.154.243.149 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2006 00:38:14 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:44:27 -0500 From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:38:20 - Will a diesel engine run on a mixture of jet fuel and diesel or straight jet fuel? jet fuel is about 1.84 a gallon ... Take a look at FedEx fuel surcharges http://fedex.com/cgi-bin/fuelsurcharge.cgi?cc=uslanguage=english#jan0206
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
As I understand it, diesels were tried in planes, and didn't make it far due to the burn / compression ratio needed by the engine. Piston and Jet engines in planes need a much lower burn rating (higher octane ... all the math is a little muddy) Basically, the air is so thin as you climb into the stratosphere that you need a mix that requires as little air as possible to burn. Running jet fuel in a diesel, I think, would thus have almost no use. A diesel probably couldn't run on pure jet fuel, and any jet fuel that is in mix with diesel might have interesting complications. I guess it would be similar to a full tank of gasoline. A diesel engine will try it's best, and in most scenarios, be able to limp using gas, but their is no spark to ignite the gas so it all deals with heat, and the combustion chamber isn't very equal in it's stroke. So it runs very rough as some of the fuel begins to burn in the wrong places of the cycle and most of it dumps to the ground as liquid from the exhaust. Though I've never owned a diesel, so I'm just going off of research I've picked up from here and other places. For all I know, it might be perfect to run Jet Fuel in a Diesel, but I don't think so. On 3/3/06, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a diesel engine run on a mixture of jet fuel and diesel or straight jet fuel? jet fuel is about 1.84 a gallon ... Take a look at FedEx fuel surcharges http://fedex.com/cgi-bin/fuelsurcharge.cgi?cc=uslanguage=english#jan0206 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: oh lord, dont stir up luther. Maybe we should tell him there's a mechanically minded 23 y-o Benz lover on Mercedesshop? I hear she's cute too. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
kevin kraly wrote: If a tooth equals 18 degrees, is it true that the cam gear has 20 teeth for 360 degrees? No, that would mean the crank sprocket has 20 teeth and the cam IP have 40. One tooth equals 18 degrees at the crank, not at the cam.
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
Wow, Jim! I am so glad to hear this. especially after yesterday! Lynn in WA
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
If a tooth equals 18 degrees, is it true that the cam gear has 20 teeth for 360 degrees? No, that would mean the crank sprocket has 20 teeth and the cam IP have 40. One tooth equals 18 degrees at the crank, not at the cam. Or some ratio. I don't think there's quite 40 teeth on the cam sprocket. But it could have 20 and the crank 10. (And I don't think either of these figures is right.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
As I understand it, diesels were tried in planes, and didn't make it far due to the burn / compression ratio needed by the engine. Piston Diesel piston engines didn't fly, so to speak, but that's irrelevant to this question. would thus have almost no use. A diesel probably couldn't run on pure jet fuel, and any jet fuel that is in mix with diesel might have interesting complications. It's done all the time. There is a lot of fuel pumped out of planes for various reasons, and it isn't certifiable to be put back. Slop fuel. One of the perks of working at the airport and owning a forgiving diesel (like a Benz) is that you can often get free fuel, if you're quiet about it. We've heard from some of those here. The jet fuel is not an optimal blend, but it works pretty well and you can always mix it with #2 as hamburger helper. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
Speaking of Kaia? Wait, that's Mercedessource. She SOUNDS cute, but NEVER go by that! Although, she is VERY helpful. I love those simpleton books they put out - as if they are written just for me. I think I own 5 of them and dying to get the buyers guide - their biggest one yet - not out yet. I was thinking up a story about Luther and how he will meet his dream girl...It will all start in a McDonald's parking lot...the rest of the plot, I'm still working on in my head. Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: oh lord, dont stir up luther. Maybe we should tell him there's a mechanically minded 23 y-o Benz lover on Mercedesshop? I hear she's cute too. Mitch. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 01:30:11 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFLax-0001o0-Ka for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:30:11 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k241UfPj024749 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:30:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:30:06 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:30:42 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Well well well X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:30:11 - ownership down to $0.09/mile and if I figure in the $800 the rube, I mean new owner is giving me we're down to $0.08/mile which is pretty darned good. I'd hate to run those numbers here, most of ours would stink. But for absolute lowest cost per mile there's nothing like a Frankenheap, one of two cars we have at the other end of the spectrum. Cheap? Yes. Trouble-free? No, not exactly. Beautiful? Ha! But cheap, did I mention cheap? The thing is, to get stellar numbers you can't put money in for anything that's not necessary, and for those things that are you look hard at used parts. And the cosmetics go to hell. (Or stay there!) It's not what everybody wants, to be sure, and it's not even what _I_ want a good portion of the time. But in slushmobile season... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
I'd mix it with filtered veggie oil as helper - no lubricity problems then! Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand it, diesels were tried in planes, and didn't make it far due to the burn / compression ratio needed by the engine. Piston Diesel piston engines didn't fly, so to speak, but that's irrelevant to this question. would thus have almost no use. A diesel probably couldn't run on pure jet fuel, and any jet fuel that is in mix with diesel might have interesting complications. It's done all the time. There is a lot of fuel pumped out of planes for various reasons, and it isn't certifiable to be put back. Slop fuel. One of the perks of working at the airport and owning a forgiving diesel (like a Benz) is that you can often get free fuel, if you're quiet about it. We've heard from some of those here. The jet fuel is not an optimal blend, but it works pretty well and you can always mix it with #2 as hamburger helper. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 01:37:28 2006 Received: from fed1rmmtao02.cox.net ([68.230.241.37]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFLi4-0002Ri-Py for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:37:28 + Received: from familycomp ([68.106.48.86]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:34:40 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:37:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] luther and love X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:37:29 - Chris admitted: I was thinking up a story about Luther and how he will meet his dream girl...It will all start in a McDonald's parking lot...the rest of the plot, I'm still working on in my head. That is kind of like the musical I'm working on...a musical set in a nuclear plant. We are an odd lot. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 149K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
On 3/3/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking up a story about Luther and how he will meet his dream girl...It will all start in a McDonald's parking lot...the rest of the plot, I'm still working on in my head. Chris Chris, While I'm sure that Luther is an upstanding and rather likeable fellow, I must question your devoting brain cycles to dreaming up plots involving Luther meeting the girl of his dreams. Certainly, you would be better off dreaming up plots to give a MB diesel to him, or to me, or another to yourself. At least that would hold some Benz related info. (Him driving a Benz in your dream to this fictional McDonald's does not count.) Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
Christopher McCann wrote: Speaking of Kaia? No, BodhiBenz1987 on Mercedesshop. She turned 24 back in December, so I got the age wrong. Owns a white/palomino W124/OM603, and a maple W115 240D. She has as many Benzs as I had Saabs when I was her age. Probably too good for Luther, anyway.
Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No buzzer when key left in lock, or lights left on, usually means the time delay that turns the front interior light on and off has also failed. To confirm, does the front interior light come on when the driver's door is opened? And it should stay on after the driver's door is closed for a preset time delay. Hi Jim, The fron interior light does come on when doors are opened, and will turn itself off after 10 sec. David __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
I'll be sure to mark OT in the future. Chris Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/3/06, Christopher McCann wrote: I was thinking up a story about Luther and how he will meet his dream girl...It will all start in a McDonald's parking lot...the rest of the plot, I'm still working on in my head. Chris Chris, While I'm sure that Luther is an upstanding and rather likeable fellow, I must question your devoting brain cycles to dreaming up plots involving Luther meeting the girl of his dreams. Certainly, you would be better off dreaming up plots to give a MB diesel to him, or to me, or another to yourself. At least that would hold some Benz related info. (Him driving a Benz in your dream to this fictional McDonald's does not count.) Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 02:06:22 2006 Received: from pproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.166.177]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFMA2-0004zt-5m for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 02:06:22 + Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id d42so403337pyd for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:06:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bI6OGWCpC2+PP0V3a9dhqvd1Ot0Qo2MY5Yx/h2YqQ5t3o5EJWxQ6v7UwU4BmR/QBPe4Oc7zp5L91lyCMM9apmlCehG+YbiPAtmzc5SOHZru7Cl0SIpvidy0C5uxI+DEaw8NedEGEicvn55bUhQ8PhqV93TAfDdOxJXO/E2wMUzo= Received: by 10.65.147.13 with SMTP id z13mr891541qbn; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.17 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:06:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:06:19 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 02:06:22 - Knew a guy back in the Old Guard (meaning mid '70s Coast Guard) who burne= d nothing but JP-4 in iis old diesel Benz, and this was an old diesel Benz in 1976. God only knows the year that car was. But it ran just fine. What would that have been, a 220D? Or what as even older? On 3/3/06, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand it, diesels were tried in planes, and didn't make it far due to the burn / compression ratio needed by the engine. Piston and Jet engines in planes need a much lower burn rating (higher octane ... all the math is a little muddy) Basically, the air is so thin as you climb into the stratosphere that you need a mix that requires as little air as possible to burn. Running jet fuel in a diesel, I think, would thus have almost no use. A diesel probably couldn't run on pure jet fuel, and any jet fuel that is in mix with diesel might have interesting complications. I guess it would be similar to a full tank of gasoline. A diesel engine will try it's best, and in most scenarios, be able to limp using gas, but their is no spark to ignite the gas so it all deals with heat, and the combustion chamber isn't very equal in it's stroke. So it runs very rough as some of the fuel begins to burn in the wrong places of the cycle and most of it dumps to the ground as liquid from the exhaust. Though I've never owned a diesel,
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Bill Gallagher wrote: Will a diesel engine run on a mixture of jet fuel and diesel or straight jet fuel? jet fuel is about 1.84 a gallon ... Take a look at FedEx fuel surcharges http://fedex.com/cgi-bin/fuelsurcharge.cgi?cc=uslanguage=english#jan0206 Mercedes diesels run rather well on Jet fuel. They run better on #2 diesel though. If you pay the federal and state road tax, the price of the jet fuel will be quite similar to diesel. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Door seals
Try copying the two link lines into a text editor like wordpad - then re-assemble them there without extra spaces and line feeds, EOL, etc. When assembled, copy and paste into the browser -- Nothing hides in the text editor -- you see all. On 3/3/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, I do copy the second line in, it doesn't work. Or rather the only time it doesn't work is when its an attachment. To go to an external site its okay. -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***
OK Don wrote: True! But it might be too cold - tastes better warmer than freezing. Guiness is good stuff, but I try to drink local microbrews whenever I can. Somehow the flavor of a beer seems to improve in direct proportion to how close I am to where it was brewed. Some of the best beer I've ever had has been in brew pubs, where it was brewed twelve feet from where I was sitting.
Re: [MBZ] Well well well
Jim Cathey wrote: The thing is, to get stellar numbers you can't put money in for anything that's not necessary, and for those things that are you look hard at used parts. And the cosmetics go to hell. (Or stay there!) And of course a lot of our numbers would change if we included the value of our time and labor. ;)
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Jim Cathey wrote: It's done all the time. There is a lot of fuel pumped out of planes for various reasons, and it isn't certifiable to be put back. Slop fuel. One of the perks of working at the airport and owning a forgiving diesel (like a Benz) is that you can often get free fuel, if you're quiet about it. We've heard from some of those here. The jet fuel is not an optimal blend, but it works pretty well and you can always mix it with #2 as hamburger helper. My understanding is it's pretty similar to kerosene. Somewhat lower BTU/gallon, and poor lubricity qualities compared to Diesel #2. But it'll burn fine. There's a reason pilots sometimes refer to jets as oil burners. Jet engines used in ground-based applications (crazy-ass hotrods, motorcycles, etc.) are often run on diesel #2. Gas turbines are even more omnivorous than diesels.
[MBZ] Attn: cheapskates
For those living in western Washington, Schuck's auto supply is having a one-buck-off per quart coupon sale. The coupon flyer was at the front counter in the Lake City store. So, I paid $4.99 per quart, buying two cases. The discount applies to all flavors of M1, included the EP version, marked down to $5.29. Although the coupon says one case limit, the clerk just rang up two sales and didn't bother to collect the coupon. I decided to change my Porsche's M1 0W40 since it's been nearly two years but only 1736 miles since the last change. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Jet fuel is NOT #2 diesel -- it's more like gasoline and doesn't have the proper lubricating qualities for use in diesel injection pumps. LIke gasoline, it will burn badly and knock and smoke quite a bit, and give you fairly low hp as well. Stick to #2. Jet engines won't run on #2, either, except for some of the really old ones (like J-75s), and even then are very hard to start. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Actually, diesel engines flew many, many hours in German aircraft during WWII. Horrible to start in cold weather, and low on power, but they staggered into the air and droned on. Main drawbacks have always been low hp/weight ratios, not efficiency. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
On 3/3/06 6:44 PM, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a diesel engine run on a mixture of jet fuel and diesel or straight jet fuel? jet fuel is about 1.84 a gallon ... Take a look at FedEx fuel surcharges Jet fuel is NOT 1.84 a gallon. Retail average in the US right now is in this chart by a very reputable survey: http://www.aviationresearch.com/Free/fuel_survey.asp When I was flying the Mitsubishi Propjet, I was driving my 1987 300TD. I ran it on jet fuel in emergencies, and it ran just fine. Jet fuel is basically super purified kerosene for the most part. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (101k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 102610 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060303/94a0ebca/attachment.jpg
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
Hey - it's Moose Friday - anything goes! On 3/3/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be sure to mark OT in the future. Chris Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/3/06, Christopher McCann wrote: I was thinking up a story about Luther and how he will meet his dream girl...It will all start in a McDonald's parking lot...the rest of the plot, I'm still working on in my head. Chris Chris, While I'm sure that Luther is an upstanding and rather likeable fellow, I must question your devoting brain cycles to dreaming up plots involving Luther meeting the girl of his dreams. Certainly, you would be better off dreaming up plots to give a MB diesel to him, or to me, or another to yourself. At least that would hold some Benz related info. (Him driving a Benz in your dream to this fictional McDonald's does not count.) Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***
Very true! I have to get into home brewing - after I master bio-Diesel brewing! On 3/3/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: True! But it might be too cold - tastes better warmer than freezing. Guiness is good stuff, but I try to drink local microbrews whenever I can. Somehow the flavor of a beer seems to improve in direct proportion to how close I am to where it was brewed. Some of the best beer I've ever had has been in brew pubs, where it was brewed twelve feet from where I was sitting. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Peter Frederick wrote: Jet fuel is NOT #2 diesel -- it's more like gasoline and doesn't have the proper lubricating qualities for use in diesel injection pumps. LIke gasoline, it will burn badly and knock and smoke quite a bit, and give you fairly low hp as well. Stick to #2. Jet engines won't run on #2, either, except for some of the really old ones (like J-75s), and even then are very hard to start. It's better then #1 (kerosene) and Mercedes diesels (made in the 20th century) are certified to run fine on #1 OR #2 diesel. Many diesel engines with other types of injection pumps WON'T run well on jet fuel (or #1). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
On 3/3/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding is it's pretty similar to kerosene. Somewhat lower BTU/gallon, and poor lubricity qualities compared to Diesel #2. But it'll burn fine. There's a reason pilots sometimes refer to jets as oil burners. Jet engines used in ground-based applications (crazy-ass hotrods, motorcycles, etc.) are often run on diesel #2. Gas turbines are even more omnivorous than diesels. Really, Shows that I wasn't paying attention then. Diesel in ground based jets . learn something new all the time, eh? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
More likely a 190D in a W110 body. JP-4 would definitely reduce the life on the IP, and it probably ran MUCH better on #2 -- JP-4 is pretty crappy fuel, being mostly what used to be called wide cut gasoline -- everything that distilled off above C20 or so. Nasty fuel, it's as flammable and explosive as gasoline with the handling characteristics of diesel. The only advantage to if was it was cheaper than Jet A since it required less distillation. Known to have been the direct cause of at least two very serious aircraft accidents (a Boeing 707 in Maryland brought down by a wing explosion due to lightening strike that caused a spark in the wing tanks and a hanger explosion that destroyed two DC-8s in Holland). Thankfully, JP-4 is long gone. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Jet fuel is NOT #2 diesel -- it's more like gasoline and doesn't have the proper lubricating qualities for use in diesel injection pumps. IIRC Jet A is more like kerosene with a portion of gasoline thrown in. (Something that is awfully close to a mix blessed in the owner's manual at one time.) Also, the Bosch inline pumps that MB used are probably the least sensitive to fuel lubricity of the pumps out there. The guts are lubricated by engine oil, not fuel. I recall that MB touted their indirect-injection motors as being very tolerant of weird fuels, as might be found in the backwoods of Africa. If I had a free source of such fuel I'd use it in a heartbeat, while shopping the U-Pull for a spare injection pump just in case. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
A friend of mine filled his tank with gasoline in Alabama several years ago got about 4 miles and the diesel engine went dead .he has no good words for the MB dealer: Felt the south was getting back at a yank again. Dealer took two days to do the job, he was forced to fly to Cleveland, then back to Alabama to get his 300D. expensive mistake Bill 1981 300 TD Peter Frederick wrote: Jet fuel is NOT #2 diesel -- it's more like gasoline and doesn't have the proper lubricating qualities for use in diesel injection pumps. LIke gasoline, it will burn badly and knock and smoke quite a bit, and give you fairly low hp as well. Stick to #2. Jet engines won't run on #2, either, except for some of the really old ones (like J-75s), and even then are very hard to start. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Lights left on Buzzer
No buzzer when key left in lock, or lights left on, usually means the time The key-in buzzer is sounded (in part) by a switch that is hooked to the steering column lock. So, if your column doesn't lock the buzzer won't work either. Can happen if things get sticky. There are other reasons that switch could fail to operate, too. -- Jim
[MBZ] R-12 Freon
Where can I get 3 or 4 lbs. of R-12 Freon? Wilton
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
related info. (Him driving a Benz in your dream to this fictional McDonald's does not count.) Not even to score some free WVO for fuel? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)
huh? Invite her here. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: oh lord, dont stir up luther. Maybe we should tell him there's a mechanically minded 23 y-o Benz lover on Mercedesshop? I hear she's cute too. Mitch. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)
We will have a dating service at the okieQ Christopher McCann wrote: Don't worry Luther, you'll find a pretty German Benz chick some day too. CM :-) Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sappy stuff like this makes me sick... ~Considered it for about two years and that is how I met my wife! She was ~teaching at the parish school attached to the priory I was staying at in ~preparation for attending the seminary. Decided not to go and we got married ~a year or so later. Bliss, ahem, ever since! Actually, she turned 33 ~yesterday. She is a wonderful wife and mother and hot to boot. AND she is ~happy she sold her 98 Sienna and bought an 87 300TD! What a sweetie! ~ ~ Chris ~ ~LT Don wrote: You shoulda gone Priest, bro' but I am ~sure the wife'd disagree. ~ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
Where can I get 3 or 4 lbs. of R-12 Freon? NAPA, if you've got your certificate. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 190D rides again!
have no clue Rory wrote: Do you think it's a good car? On 3/3/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4616443065rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 John Peterson wrote: I'm so jealous of your 190 stick. I'd do anything for one of those. They are so rare. Baby that thing. John Peterson Kingston RI - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rides again! 40-45mph? Good lord I don't even think about 5th until I'm above 55. In actuality getting on the highway I don't get into 4th until around 50. Supposedly this car has like year old injectors which I think is possible, it sounds a bit more like a big rig diesel than either my 240D or 300TD did. It did quiet down a bit with Mobil 1 in the crankcase. I need to do return lines, in fact I put together a list on Rusty's site today (BTW the new site looks great guys but Hursty, if you're gonna say between you gotta have 2 numbers, between 30 Mercedes doesn't make sense) and with all my needs and *wants* filled in its like $400... Shoulda done that last month and gotten a specially good deal. Economy continues to improve as the old crappy fuel gets more diluted. I need to lay off the throttle some to get the economy way up. I started into that today, unlike my 240D I don't need to floor it every time I take off from a stop. -Curt '85 190D Dory 234kmi '83 240D Hammie 254kmi Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:37:55 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rides again! To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: So once again I've picked up my 190D from the Indy. Some of you might remember how it wouldn't shift into reverse. My Indy took the shifter all apart, cleaned out 21 years of crud and replaced the shift bushings. That took it from a super sloppy mystery shifter (you shift and hope the gear you get is the one you wanted) to a normal good shifting car. The reverse gate now works exactly as I'd expect it to, slide to the right, push down, pull back. 5th is now very easy to get into as well which is good I'm sure my fuel mileage was suffering by my not shifting into it before. ALSO now the shifter doesn't lean so far to the side in 1st and 5th so I can hook the boot to the base without it pulling the base up, nice. I like driving this car so much I'm now thinking I should turn down Fred's offer of a set of used seat bottoms and instead invest in brand new seat bottoms and pads for that new seat feel. Great to hear that you find the car so much fun to drive (I agree). Let me caution you. DO NOT hurry to shift into 5th or even 4th when driving at speeds less than 40-45 mph. Allow the engine to wind out to 3000+ in each gear. That will NOT increase fuel consumption (may even improve it slightly). I've been driving 190D 5 speeds (three of them with 2.0, 2.2 and 2.5 liter engines) for more than 12 years (and 250kmi) and have tried driving them almost every way they can be driven (including getting the gear box into 5th as soon as possible). The most common causes of poor fuel economy (after fuel leaks) are poor quality fuel (good fuel can improve fuel economy by 10-20%) and improper operating temp (a thermostat that's stuck even a little open can lower fuel economy in city/stop-and-go driving by 30% or more). Allowing the engine to lug can easily degrade economy by 10% or more. Shifting to a higher gear too soon - before the engine will be at least at the low end of the torque plateau in the gear (that's in the low/mid 2000 rpm range - the actual torque peak is at 2800, but it's very broad and almost flat) results in the excessive fuel consumption! Improper injection timing and poor injector condition (improper pressures or spray pattern) usually only have a minor effect of fuel economy until they are way off and usually there is some other presenting problem (noise, poor idle, smoke) before poor fuel economy is noticed. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] More good stuff
WOW Rusty Cullens wrote: W126 300SD A/C Kit $295.00 New Compressor Drier Expansion Valve Both Pressure Switches W123 240D 300D from 1979 A/C Kit $295.00 New Compressor Drier Expansion Valve Both Pressure Switches W116/W123/W126 Diesel Cooling Kit $69.00 New Water Pump Thermostat Seal Upper Radiator Hose Lower Radiator Hose W126 Body Rubber Seal Kit $375.00 Rear Window Seal Trunk Seal 4 Door Seals W123 Body Rubber Seal Kit $325.00 Front Windshield Seal Rear Window Seal 4 Door Seals Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 http://www.BuyMBparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com/ Serving Mercedes Enthusiasts for over 30 years. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 123 Hood release
there is a link at the bottom of each message for used parts ned kleinhenz wrote: Is anybody parting out a 123? I need just the final hood reliease lever. You know, that part that sticks out through the grill, and you pull on it to make the final unlatch of the hood. (or if you're dring in GB - to open the bonnet). Some young ham-fist broke the triangular part off that lever on Old Paint. It's a real PITA to open without that piece. Thanks, Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 Hiyo Silver and Green Machine '85 300D Old Paint '80 300TD Myrtle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cheap '85 TD
damn, wish it was closer Luther Gulseth wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4618588555 How about that sticker in the rear window?? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 190D
I have a 84 190D auto that Im fixing to start driving(just putting the radio back in) that I picked up for $300. Pretty nice looking car too. Curt Raymond wrote: Cries into beer... Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:23:00 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 4, Issue 28 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: My 190D has cost me way more than I ever expected but I've strangely fallen in love with it... Wierd. -Curt If you don't mind disclosing. How much? I paid $1200 for my Euro with 62,000 mi from original owner. Needed a paint job and some this and that. All told $2,600 W/paint job and new tires, new Euro lights and a lot of small stuff and massaging. Now it just needs a couple more small items, less than $200 to make it perfect. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
it will run on straight jet fuel Bill Gallagher wrote: Will a diesel engine run on a mixture of jet fuel and diesel or straight jet fuel? jet fuel is about 1.84 a gallon ... Take a look at FedEx fuel surcharges http://fedex.com/cgi-bin/fuelsurcharge.cgi?cc=uslanguage=english#jan0206 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Ed Booher wrote: Really, Shows that I wasn't paying attention then. Diesel in ground based jets . learn something new all the time, eh? Uh huh...Marine Turbine Techologies' jet-powered motorcycle runs on diesel or kero. It's been clocked at 227 mph, but no one knows what the actual top speed is. It uses a Rolls Royce Allison 250-series engine, according to their website. http://www.marineturbine.com/motorsports.asp
Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering filter
I took out the top plate and the side ceramic piece. I wonder if the bottom is still down there somewhere? On 3/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the Ceramic version Power Steering fluid filter.Pics attachted.Exploded unit views. Bob '83 240D 172,000 -- next part -- Here's the Ceramic version Power Steering fluid filter.Pics attac hted.Exploded unit views. Bob '83 240D 172,000 [3Dcid:X.MA1.1141420214@aol.com] [3Dcid:X.MA2.1141420214@aol.com] -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 536880 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060303/1bce0a2b/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 519786 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060303/1bce0a2b/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
No, that would mean the crank sprocket has 20 teeth and the cam IP have 40. Ah, that makes sense! The crank turns twice the number of revolutions as the cam. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D project
[MBZ] AUTOGAS LEGISLATION CHANGED IN WASHINGTON STATE
AUTOGAS LEGISLATION CHANGED IN WASHINGTON STATE, THANKS TO AOPA Pilot action has turned the tide on Washington State ethanol-in-gasoline legislation. As originally drafted, both Senate and House versions would have required all automobile gasoline sold in the state to be blended with ethanol, making it unsafe and illegal to use in aircraft flying with autogas supplemental type certificates (STCs). AOPA supported local pilots who operate using the autogas STC by contacting bill sponsors and the Washington governor's office. The association explained the problems the bill would cause aircraft owners and gave committee staff examples of alternate legislation. The bill has been amended in the House to require only a small percentage of all gasoline sold in the state to be blended with ethanol. Sources in the Senate report that the Senate will concur with the House amendments and that Gov. Christine Gregoire is likely to sign the bill as amended. Washington is not the only state to look toward this more environmentally friendly blended fuel. AOPA, as it has already done in Montana, Idaho, and Missouri, and has under way in Iowa, will continue to advocate for the availability of motor gas without ethanol for use in aircraft.
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Marshall: I know, I have one that won't run reliably on #2 (the Bosch VE rotary pump) -- second rebuild in 60,000 miles coming up. Jet A is much lighter than #2, and is lighter that #1 -- I've done the fingerprint of all of them searching for the identity of some stuff found floating after a flood. Never did find out what it was (I didn't check lighter fluid, probably should have). Jet A is heavier than gasoline (the very light volatiles are missing), but the highest molecular weight stuff, as I remember, is about C15, not C32 as it would be in #2 diesel. I wouldn't run it in a modern IP. Peter
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
you are going to need an r 12 license i have one but it is still easy to get freon on ebay let me know if i can help also there are very good alternatives now to r 12 that seem to work well mike collins 1985 500 sec phila
Re: [MBZ] 123 Hood release
It's like $8 new. Come on. They're cheap enough, why not order one from Rusty? Listed for $8.77 on Rusty's website. Err… Sorry. I didn't expect to find such a body part from Rusty. And I didn't even think about going to the dealer. Last part I bought from a dealer for Old Paint, was one of those pins that holds the front brake pads in place. That stupid pin cost $20+. Thanks for the info. I'll just order a new one. Ned Kleinhenz**
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Marshall Booth wrote: Mercedes diesels run rather well on Jet fuel. They run better on #2 diesel though. If you pay the federal and state road tax, the price of the jet fuel will be quite similar to diesel. Unless, of course, you get JP4 that was drained from a plane during repairs.
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
I'm probably not her type. That's how it ends with every woman that is quality, especially the best ones. On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:36:20 -0600, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: oh lord, dont stir up luther. Maybe we should tell him there's a mechanically minded 23 y-o Benz lover on Mercedesshop? I hear she's cute too. Mitch. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] 1996 300D on E-bay
Peter, look closely at the drivers door bottom inside front edge...looks like that might be rust which this model is known to have serious problems with. And also applies to some front suspension members as well. Now back to our regularly scheduled program...lusting after MB's. On 3/3/06, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realy like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-1996-E300D-Diesel-Low-Miles-Records-Extra-Clean-NO-RESERVE-40-Pics_W0QQitemZ4616601261QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Maybe I should stop looking -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 1987 300SDL 239KMI 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 190Kmi 1954 Mertopolitan Convertable, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
wilton strickland wrote: Where can I get 3 or 4 lbs. of R-12 Freon? Why so much? What's the capacity of your W140? I think my stockpile is down to six 14oz cans.
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
I do know the owner of 12 area McD's and have the possibility of in the future collecting their WVO. On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:08:57 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: related info. (Him driving a Benz in your dream to this fictional McDonald's does not count.) Not even to score some free WVO for fuel? -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)
Uh. On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:13:31 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We will have a dating service at the okieQ Christopher McCann wrote: Don't worry Luther, you'll find a pretty German Benz chick some day too. CM :-) Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sappy stuff like this makes me sick... ~Considered it for about two years and that is how I met my wife! She was ~teaching at the parish school attached to the priory I was staying at in ~preparation for attending the seminary. Decided not to go and we got married ~a year or so later. Bliss, ahem, ever since! Actually, she turned 33 ~yesterday. She is a wonderful wife and mother and hot to boot. AND she is ~happy she sold her 98 Sienna and bought an 87 300TD! What a sweetie! ~ ~ Chris ~ ~LT Don wrote: You shoulda gone Priest, bro' but I am ~sure the wife'd disagree. ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
Luther Gulseth wrote: I do know the owner of 12 area McD's and have the possibility of in the future collecting their WVO. Is it liquid or solid at room temps?
Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)
Ugh, now you have my mind wandering. It's thinking of signing up for Mercedesshop. On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:36:20 -0600, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: oh lord, dont stir up luther. Maybe we should tell him there's a mechanically minded 23 y-o Benz lover on Mercedesshop? I hear she's cute too. Mitch. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
Haven't even gotten that far. I have 1 source right now, and over 100 gallons stored up. I'd much rather use Chineese/peanut anyway. On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:03:29 -0600, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther Gulseth wrote: I do know the owner of 12 area McD's and have the possibility of in the future collecting their WVO. Is it liquid or solid at room temps? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
JP4 is very, very old, IIR, JP8 is currently produced . Bill 1981 300 TD Mitch Haley wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: Mercedes diesels run rather well on Jet fuel. They run better on #2 diesel though. If you pay the federal and state road tax, the price of the jet fuel will be quite similar to diesel. Unless, of course, you get JP4 that was drained from a plane during repairs. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Au Contraire, Mr. Booher and Mr. Cathey. Diesels are back in aviation. There are several STCs for Diesels in single engine aircraft (maybe multis too, but I havent read about it yet), and it looks as if will take off (no pun intended). Youll be seeing more and more on this in the aviation game. And as far as Jet engines go the French engines in the old Alouette II helicopters would fly on just about anything. I have used bunker fuel out of the boat I was on and Mogas (regular gas) was restricted to 50 hours and you could burn Diesel everyday of the week. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350
Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel and Jet Fuel
Do you recall the material used to make the engine block??? Audi made a diesel engine at the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans. The new Audi R10 is powered by a completely new 5.5-litre, twelve-cylinder bi-turbo TDI engine which is extremely economical and quiet. Believe it or not made Made from aluminum If made with a lot of AL, watch it melt away because of the low melting point of AL . http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en1/experience/motorsport/r10.html Shows a good tech point of view . Bill 1981 300 TD W. Lasher wrote: Au Contraire, Mr. Booher and Mr. Cathey. Diesels are back in aviation. There are several STC’s for Diesels in single engine aircraft (maybe multi’s too, but I haven’t read about it yet), and it looks as if will take off (no pun intended). You’ll be seeing more and more on this in the aviation game. And as far as Jet engines go the French engines in the old Alouette II helicopters would fly on just about anything. I have used bunker fuel out of the boat I was on and Mogas (regular gas) was restricted to 50 hours and you could burn Diesel everyday of the week. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
Generally, their oil is pretty well shot by the time they dump it. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] luther and love Luther Gulseth wrote: I do know the owner of 12 area McD's and have the possibility of in the future collecting their WVO. Is it liquid or solid at room temps? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe parts
On Mar 3, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: Wow, $1200? Wonder what PPG would charge for the same window. Wish I could find a parts car coupe close to me. I'm guessing more than $1200 unless they are no longer made. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 190D
On Mar 3, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Cries into beer... I got lucky finding this diamond in the rough. I would have gladly paid 2,000 or more due to low mileage and zero rust. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Okie Q
743 miles from Gonzales, La. Russ W. On 3/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 484 miles away for me. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:18 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: I'm probably not her type. That's how it ends with every woman that is quality, especially the best ones. Lower your standards. What's your description of a quality woman? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
Is it liquid or solid at room temps? Heat it! -- Jim
[MBZ] OT: More genset musings
So, the current wet dream involves one of MB's smaller, efficient diesels coupled through a slushbox to the 1200 RPM generator. The usual generator is optimized for heavy loads and runs at a constant RPM, and is usually directly coupled. But for our home there is a wide range of power draw. It would be nice to let this thing tick over all night at a near idle with little load on it, and only have it roar to life (and shift gears) under load. I'd be paying for my overnight efficiency by its being less efficient (due to the slushbox) at higher loads. I was thinking that letting the diesel get as close to idle as it could would be best, as I expect that it would spend the bulk of its time at low load. Couple this desire with the necessity that this be somewhat cheap/surplus in nature, and that probably limits the supply to be nothing newer than a 190D. Anybody think this idea is worth a crap? I don't think there are any overdrive automatics that will mate to a 60X, so that means that the fast idle is 1200 RPM using the 201's normal tranny, but that the motor can kick up to 2400 or so in 2 or thereabouts, at its discretion. The frequency regulator would be hooked up just like the cruise control, and the tranny would take care of its own shift points. Under light load the throttle would be eased off and the tranny should upshift, dropping the engine RPM to more quiet, if not more efficient, territory. Our neighbor solves this power problem with a battery bank and a big inverter, but I hate batteries. An engine and a tank of fuel have much longer shelf and service lives. If I can put this together with the MD3 generator end, I can sell the big Kohler, for a tidy sum as I understand it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
not worth it. As BioD it'll still gel quicker than oil that is liquid at room temp. On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 02:00:14 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it liquid or solid at room temps? Heat it! -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] OT: More genset musings
I am curious what would be the best engine for this application? Probably want to avoid aluminum heads. Not having to futz with adjusting valve clearances would be a plus. An engine designed to run with a turbo is probably a bit more heavy duty than one not. 200 amp service translates to 48Kw so 90Hp would be plenty. Any other criteria? -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 3/4/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the current wet dream involves one of MB's smaller, efficient diesels coupled through a slushbox to the 1200 RPM generator. The usual generator is optimized for heavy loads and runs at a constant RPM, and is usually directly coupled. But for our home there is a wide range of power draw. It would be nice to let this thing tick over all night at a near idle with little load on it, and only have it roar to life (and shift gears) under load. I'd be paying for my overnight efficiency by its being less efficient (due to the slushbox) at higher loads. I was thinking that letting the diesel get as close to idle as it could would be best, as I expect that it would spend the bulk of its time at low load. Couple this desire with the necessity that this be somewhat cheap/surplus in nature, and that probably limits the supply to be nothing newer than a 190D. Anybody think this idea is worth a crap? I don't think there are any overdrive automatics that will mate to a 60X, so that means that the fast idle is 1200 RPM using the 201's normal tranny, but that the motor can kick up to 2400 or so in 2 or thereabouts, at its discretion. The frequency regulator would be hooked up just like the cruise control, and the tranny would take care of its own shift points. Under light load the throttle would be eased off and the tranny should upshift, dropping the engine RPM to more quiet, if not more efficient, territory. Our neighbor solves this power problem with a battery bank and a big inverter, but I hate batteries. An engine and a tank of fuel have much longer shelf and service lives. If I can put this together with the MD3 generator end, I can sell the big Kohler, for a tidy sum as I understand it. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] luther and love
good luck on that. They wont let you get it around here, something about legal issues or something. Luther Gulseth wrote: I do know the owner of 12 area McD's and have the possibility of in the future collecting their WVO. On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:08:57 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: related info. (Him driving a Benz in your dream to this fictional McDonald's does not count.) Not even to score some free WVO for fuel? -- Jim -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Door seals
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 06:46:38 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody able to forward me that pdf? Sure Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: AirGap.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 182336 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060303/35536501/AirGap.pdf
Re: [MBZ] 123 Hood release
It's about a $4.00 part-I think 7.00 from the stealer. I replaced mine. But the nylon fishing line loop worked well (20lb test.) Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ned kleinhenz Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 123 Hood release Is anybody parting out a 123? I need just the final hood reliease lever. You know, that part that sticks out through the grill, and you pull on it to make the final unlatch of the hood. (or if you're dring in GB - to open the bonnet). Some young ham-fist broke the triangular part off that lever on Old Paint. It's a real PITA to open without that piece. Thanks, Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 Hiyo Silver and Green Machine '85 300D Old Paint '80 300TD Myrtle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)
My 240D starts at 5F with Mobil 1, new glow plugs and starter, 5 year old Interstate battery with new alternator. I just double glow. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1) Similar to my thinking when I hear the news report bitterly cold for Boston where it'll be 20. Its always at least 10 degrees colder where I live 60 miles west. For me bitterly cold starts at 0F. -Curt Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 01:31:27 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:13 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: I used to start my 1977 300D without a heater. My record is 14F above freezing with conventional 15W40 diesel oil. My secret? I used to keep a battery charger on the battery. If choosing between the two, a warm battery is more valuable than a warm block. The glow plugs will take the same hit from the battery regardless and extreme cold saps most of your battery's energy. Thanks, Bring your charger and dino oil up here where you can really give it a run for your money. 14F, childs play!! That's about where I switch to long sleeves. Make sure you top off exit 15 or further North so you get enough kero into her. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
Michael, As afar as I know is still for sale-he's been trying for a couple years-started at 3500. I think you saw most of what we know- 3 of us NE listers have looked at it or drove it. Somewhere on one of my half dead computers, I have pictures that John Peterson took. E-mail me off list and I'll end them to you and the guy's phone number. He doesn't really know anything about the car-he is selling it for his wife. Did you see Curt Ryamond's posts as well as mine about what we found? I really wanted the car-but not practical for me as I don't have a garage, time to work on it, etc. What are you driving now? Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hall Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:08 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD So its still for sale? Can I get some more info? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:21 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD Hey Curt, Well he plans to put it back on the market this Spring-I will watch post. He seems wedded to the price-or his wife does. My guess is that 1200 would take it before he gets it out of the barn this spring. Also needs brake work- Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD Hi Dwight welcome back. I also looked at that CD but didn't drive it. Based on what Dwight says and I saw for $800 it'd be a pretty good car, for any more the deal declines rapidly. I think the light blue is one of the nicest colors I've ever seen on a car, thats what my wagon was and I was sorely tempted with that CD. -Curt Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:06:51 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Around here in New England 300CD's do seem to be rare. Fellow lister John Peterson and I found one-a good 15 foot car-but had window seal issues, trany had shift and slip issues-some of the slip may hve been due to dragging brakes. Could be had for about 1500. It is stored in a heated garage. Seems to be not quite pristine ecnogh for a collector and too many mechanical questions to be a cheap dialy driver. But it is a sweet looking car-baby blue,no visible rust from 10'. Could be a good project though for the right owner. Nice to be back on the list. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset
Well Craig did it to me! After looking at his link I had to get a Lister and a 12 KW gen. Head! It should be at the dock to pick up Tuesday. Now the work will start, I need to put down a slab put up a shed wire things up take the lister apart and clean up make the mounting for it and the gen. Head. A lot of work but should be worth it in the time to come! I will be running it on WVO. I will also put my Biodiesel making things in the same shed. I have not seen a lot of guys into making biodiesel in the Toledo Ohio area. I will be running it in my 1985 300SD as well as my 1993 Dodge Bruce http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biodieseltolarea/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:43:45 -0800 Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys need to check this guys gen. project out http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html This was posted a couple of months ago, but it's nice to look at again. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/2006
[MBZ] Light Bulbs for the house online?
Does anyone know a good place to order Light Bulbs for the house online? Thanks, Mike From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 14:57:47 2006 Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([208.3.80.17]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFYCZ-00024t-1c for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:57:47 + Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9BF37E278 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:57:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10098-23 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:57:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-99.cnsp.net [208.3.82.99]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 933AA37E24C for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:57:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:55:35 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at cnsp.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door seals X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:57:47 - On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 21:56:01 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 06:46:38 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody able to forward me that pdf? Sure Oops. It was supposed to go straight to Curt, but I forgot to change the address. Sorry. Craig
Re: [MBZ] online tire dealers
Yeah, I always buy my tires from tirerack. I get a kick when I order tires for my 97 Subaru that tops out around 115mph or so without a LONG place to hold the pedal. They call and tel me they don't recommend tires below H speed rating for my car (which I already know is 130mph), I forget the rating on the ones I'd ordered, so I asked him what the speed was and he says 118MPH. Umm, yeah I think that'll be OK (: As for name brand, yeah I'm a believe in that. I had an issue before with some no name brand, and my 83' 300D has some sam's club specials on there that came with the car and they have a bulge in the sidewall of one of the tires. So far no problems, but it's a bit unnerving. I'm not against cheap tires, but I prefer a brand name I've heard of... Levi On 3/3/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am all for saving money, and purchase from eBay, but if you ever plan on approaching the rated speed limits of you tires, I would want tires with a known history. For my cars and the way I drive, eBay tires are fine. -Dave Walton 94S350 99E300
Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:18:09 -0500 Bruce Lulfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Craig did it to me! After looking at his link I had to get a Lister and a 12 KW gen. Head! Oh, boy! Now I've done it! Actually, you have Rory to thank. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biodieseltolarea/ On one post, you say, I have not started to make bio this year yet. Most of the oil is still solid. I have talked to a few people that would love to try out the glycerin on there cement driveways. What is the connection of glycerin to driveways? Craig
[MBZ] Jet Fuel
Hi, All. You lot are making me feel ancient. JP4 was the latest thing when I was in the R.A.F. We had AvGas (100+ octane aviation fuel) AvCat, AvTag, AvTur and other NATO stuff, all long gone by now. What comes next, a space ship with a deck full of peanut plants to fuel an alternate fuel space drive? Sorry I'm a day late, got run over by a soy eating moose! Fred Moir Lynn MA #2 fueled Klatta Klatta. - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 15:44:43 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFYvz-00067a-FK for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:44:43 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k24FjH20018059 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:45:17 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:44:40 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:44:44 - Well Craig did it to me! After looking at his link I had to get a Lister and a 12 KW gen. Head! It should be at the dock to pick up Tuesday. Congratulations! Those things are just too cool... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: More genset musings
I am curious what would be the best engine for this application? Probably want to avoid aluminum heads. Not having to futz with adjusting valve I have nothing against aluminum heads, especially for this. clearances would be a plus. An engine designed to run with a turbo is probably a bit more heavy duty than one not. 200 amp service translates to 48Kw so 90Hp would be plenty. Any other criteria? Efficiency is the big one. That's why the older iron-headed ones are out, at least in my perfect world. Except for a few small details the leftover parts from the 190D tranny swap project would be perfect. Details like the donor 2.2 threw a rod and the PO stripped many of the interesting parts off of it. Or that the slushbox has stripped the pump drive from the TC. I don't think even I will be able to do much with what I've got left! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)
Dwight wrote:My 240D starts at 5F with Mobil 1, new glow plugs and starter[SNIP]. I hope your '79 240D has the Fast Glow plug kit - you probably wouldn't need to double cycle it - you'll love it if you don't already have it! Rusty has them for less than $100 last I checked - It made a huge difference in my 78! Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1) My 240D starts at 5F with Mobil 1, new glow plugs and starter, 5 year old Interstate battery with new alternator. I just double glow. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1) Similar to my thinking when I hear the news report bitterly cold for Boston where it'll be 20. Its always at least 10 degrees colder where I live 60 miles west. For me bitterly cold starts at 0F. -Curt Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 01:31:27 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:13 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: I used to start my 1977 300D without a heater. My record is 14F above freezing with conventional 15W40 diesel oil. My secret? I used to keep a battery charger on the battery. If choosing between the two, a warm battery is more valuable than a warm block. The glow plugs will take the same hit from the battery regardless and extreme cold saps most of your battery's energy. Thanks, Bring your charger and dino oil up here where you can really give it a run for your money. 14F, childs play!! That's about where I switch to long sleeves. Make sure you top off exit 15 or further North so you get enough kero into her. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] R-12 Freon
Otherwise showroom 87 300D (124) needs Freon. Refridg tech can't find locally small quantity R-12 needed. Plenty 30 lb. tnks available @ $800. Looking for 3 or 4 lbs. Why so much? Hopefully, a little resrerve. May need to go to 134A. Any tips? Wilton
[MBZ] OT - JP-4
'Wish I had a dollar for each lb. of JP-4 I consumed in 5K hrs. in B-52's. Even a nickel wouldn't be bad, either. 'Never used it in car, though. 'Knew a maint. officer who did at times. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
Kevin, The 300CD could be a very good deal. Most oil leaks are easy to fix. Also, I need your head...cylinder head from the 220D, that is, for my 220D project. Thanks, Bruce kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of checking this one out. Here's the link to it on CL. http://portland.craigslist.org/car/138182748.html This is what the guy wrote in his response. I have had this car for about 2 years. It is an automatic. Has always been on the road. The only major work I had done to it was to have the steering/ignition lock replaced when it broke. Brakes are ok, transmission has a little slipping but hasn't been a problem, no leaking.. Went to Yakama last summer and it took the mountains OK. Pretty strong engine. Mileage has always been around 15-20, usually closer to 20. Interior is not leather, I've got covers for the front seats, back seats don't need them. Most gages work. Vacuum system is not hooked up. Great heater, air conditioner not filled. THE PROBLEM: Has suddenly sprung an oil leak. Always used a little oil but this is something else. Not sure where it originates. Uses about a quart of oil every 40 miles and looses oil when parked. My guy says he can't tell where it is coming from without getting into it. I don't have the time, talent or cash to get into it right now. My guy figures seals. I know that it is a rare turbio diesel 300CD, but is this one that could be somethin', or a junkyard fugitive? Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parting out ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 17:39:23 2006 Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.203]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFaix-0007FJ-CK for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:39:23 + Received: (qmail 71839 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2006 17:39:19 - Received: from unknown (HELO dil) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@69.214.159.228 with login) by smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2006 17:39:18 - From: Bruce Lulfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:40:02 -0500 Organization: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcY/njfJZKQNYsdeTHmC4iPJBJHA0gAFCYsA X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset - glycerin on the driveway X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:39:23 - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:18:09 -0500 Bruce Lulfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Craig did it to me! After looking at his link I had to get a Lister and a 12 KW gen. Head! Oh, boy! Now I've done it! Actually, you have Rory to thank. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biodieseltolarea/ On one post, you say, I have not started to make bio this year yet. Most of the oil is still solid. I have talked to a few people that would love to try out the glycerin on there cement driveways. What is the connection of glycerin to driveways? Craig Well it seems that If you driveway is made out of concrete it is a good cleaner to get most of the oil off of it! Bruce ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free
[MBZ] Unique odometer reading
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Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
you asked:30 lb. tnks available @ $800. Looking for 3 or 4 lbs. Why so much? The easy answer? - Taxes. The US Gov raised taxes so high to drive R12 out of business. It was being made world wide and is still being smuggled across the border - the penalties are less than smuggling drugs and the profit is still pretty high. Rememeber when it used to sell for $1 a can at FLAPS? The only thing that changed was the tax. BTW, a friend used to work at NASA - he said their wind tunnels used to leak R12 to the tune of hundred of *tons* per year! Naturally they had to convert as well -- R12 is available in smaller quantites on eBay - naturally. Last I checked it was $30-$80/1 # can. HTH's Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Otherwise showroom 87 300D (124) needs Freon. Refridg tech can't find locally small quantity R-12 needed. Plenty 30 lb. tnks available @ $800. Looking for 3 or 4 lbs. Why so much? Hopefully, a little resrerve. May need to go to 134A. Any tips? Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
Or, you could convert it to R134a. Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Otherwise showroom 87 300D (124) needs Freon. Refridg tech can't find locally small quantity R-12 needed. Plenty 30 lb. tnks available @ $800. Looking for 3 or 4 lbs. Why so much? Hopefully, a little resrerve. May need to go to 134A. Any tips? Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: More genset musings
I always figured aluminum heads were an imperfect solution because they expand differently than the rest of the engine when heated and are mainly used to save weight. Am I wrong? -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 3/4/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious what would be the best engine for this application? Probably want to avoid aluminum heads. Not having to futz with adjusting valve I have nothing against aluminum heads, especially for this. clearances would be a plus. An engine designed to run with a turbo is probably a bit more heavy duty than one not. 200 amp service translates to 48Kw so 90Hp would be plenty. Any other criteria? Efficiency is the big one. That's why the older iron-headed ones are out, at least in my perfect world. Except for a few small details the leftover parts from the 190D tranny swap project would be perfect. Details like the donor 2.2 threw a rod and the PO stripped many of the interesting parts off of it. Or that the slushbox has stripped the pump drive from the TC. I don't think even I will be able to do much with what I've got left! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
Or, you could use Hotshot, Duracool, etc. On 3/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, you could convert it to R134a. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:34:37 -0500 wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May need to go to 134A. Any tips? Avoid the R134A. Use a substitute for R12. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:45:55 -0700 Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the picture will probably be stripped, won't it? When you attach a picture on this list, it isn't sent to everyone on the list, but there is a link added that allows others to download it if they want. So, go ahead and attach the picture. Craig
[MBZ] OT: Aero Diesels
For those interested, Aero-Diesel info may be found at: http://www.zoche.de/index.html Jerry Flintrop
Re: [MBZ] OT: More genset musings
So, if you ran the engine at 2500 pm, it would = 48.75 mph., within the cruise control range. Couple the gen head to the axel - get the engine into it's torque/power range. Yes, the numbers above are wrong for driving a 1200 rpm gen head. Where can we get the torque/hp/rpm curves for different MB Diesel engines? If you're using the entire engine and tranny, you could use the cruise control to do the work for you. The only problem might be that the cruise control won't lock in at such a low speed. Guesstimiating: 1200 RPM at engine / 3.5 differential ratio = 343 RPM at wheels 23 diameter tires = 6 foot circumference 343 RPM x 6 feet/rev = 2058 feet/minute = 23.4 MPH IIRC, the cruise control won't engage below 25 - 30 MPH. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] Replacing Antenna Mast
Hi Gang! Thought I'd do something simple, bzzt! wrong! I raised the mast by turning the radio on - loosened the securing nut and tried to pull the mast out. It came up another section (which wasn't being raised automatically) but then it stopped, clunk. I pulled pretty hard but it didn't budge. The replacement is a Hirschmann but the old was is not marked with the typical H on the antenna tip. Also, the existing antenna tip is black rubber and the new one is a crome button. Any ideas? The instructions that came with the new mast (from Rusty) are pretty clear - and I'm sure I followed them exactly - but the mast did *not* want to come out. TIA! Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon
Wilton, First, I think you are doing the wise thing by sticking with R-12... I'm a strong proponent of fixig recharging R-12 systems, and NEVER converting to R-134a (or anything else that won't work with mineral oil.) Anyway, what I would recommend is getting your EPA certification online, cost is under $20. Then buy a few cans of R-12 off eBay, or wherever else you can find it cheap. Pretty sure 12oz cans are still selling for ~$20/ea on eBay. I think it will take a bit over 3 cans to fully charge an empty W124 system. Maybe 3 cans would be enough to give you 90%+ charge so you don't need to tap into a fourth, lol. You can find 30lb tanks for $400-$500, but there's always a risk that it's not virgin R-12. I'd be really careful buying one of these unless it's a local seller where you can personally inspect the tank before buying, to make sure the factory seal is intact. Worst case, convert to an alternative refrigerant that works with mineral oil, like AutoFrost. The drawback to these is you can't top off... not a big deal if your system is leak free. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:34:37 -0500 From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Otherwise showroom 87 300D (124) needs Freon. Refridg tech can't find locally small quantity R-12 needed. Plenty 30 lb. tnks available @ $800. Looking for 3 or 4 lbs. Why so much? Hopefully, a little resrerve. May need to go to 134A. Any tips? Wilton
Re: [MBZ] OT: More genset musings
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:38:34 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're using the entire engine and tranny, you could use the cruise control to do the work for you. The only problem might be that the cruise control won't lock in at such a low speed. Guesstimiating: 1200 RPM at engine / 3.5 differential ratio = 343 RPM at wheels 23 diameter tires = 6 foot circumference 343 RPM x 6 feet/rev = 2058 feet/minute = 23.4 MPH IIRC, the cruise control won't engage below 25 - 30 MPH. So, if you ran the engine at 2500 pm, it would = 48.75 mph., within the cruise control range. Couple the gen head to the axel - get the engine into it's torque/power range. Yes, the numbers above are wrong for driving a 1200 rpm gen head. Where can we get the torque/hp/rpm curves for different MB Diesel engines? Aye, there's the rub! I did a lot of guesstimating when I built my propane-fired Chevette generator. The available information suggested that it might have a little difficulty belt driving my 4 kWe generator at 7000' elevation. (For lack of better information, I had guessed a linear drop of torque from the maximum torque RPM.) Such was not the case. I just had to crank up the idle screw a little and it had no problems running at 1700 RPM. When I set it up again, I really should get a larger pulley for the engine shaft so the engine can run even slower. Or maybe mount the larger generator I have (120/240 single-phase at 104.5 A or 120/208 3-phase at 104.5 A per phase). Craig
Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading
Thanks, Craig. Actually I did attatch the picture, but it was automatically put on hold by kalebministrator's system because the picture size was too big. He must be out hunting for parts, so I'll make a smaller version and retry. Brian From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:59:13 -0700 On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:45:55 -0700 Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the picture will probably be stripped, won't it? When you attach a picture on this list, it isn't sent to everyone on the list, but there is a link added that allows others to download it if they want. So, go ahead and attach the picture. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Antenna Mast
Sounds like what happened to me-I was trying to put a Rusty Hirschman mast into a made in china replacement motor. I had to take the motor case apart and then finally went manual. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Replacing Antenna Mast Hi Gang! Thought I'd do something simple, bzzt! wrong! I raised the mast by turning the radio on - loosened the securing nut and tried to pull the mast out. It came up another section (which wasn't being raised automatically) but then it stopped, clunk. I pulled pretty hard but it didn't budge. The replacement is a Hirschmann but the old was is not marked with the typical H on the antenna tip. Also, the existing antenna tip is black rubber and the new one is a crome button. Any ideas? The instructions that came with the new mast (from Rusty) are pretty clear - and I'm sure I followed them exactly - but the mast did *not* want to come out. TIA! Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Antenna Mast
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang! Thought I'd do something simple, bzzt! wrong! I raised the mast by turning the radio on - loosened the securing nut and tried to pull the mast out. It came up another section (which wasn't being raised automatically) but then it stopped, clunk. I pulled pretty hard but it didn't budge. The replacement is a Hirschmann but the old was is not marked with the typical H on the antenna tip. Also, the existing antenna tip is black rubber and the new one is a crome button. Any ideas? The instructions that came with the new mast (from Rusty) are pretty clear - and I'm sure I followed them exactly - but the mast did *not* want to come out. The later ('90+ I think) black masts are NOT interchangeable with the earlier silver masts that are in mt '87 and earlier 124/201s. I have had NO experience with the later masts.. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Antenna Mast
On Mar 4, 2006, at 2:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang! Thought I'd do something simple, bzzt! wrong! I raised the mast by turning the radio on - loosened the securing nut and tried to pull the mast out. It came up another section (which wasn't being raised automatically) but then it stopped, clunk. I pulled pretty hard but it didn't budge. The replacement is a Hirschmann but the old was is not marked with the typical H on the antenna tip. Also, the existing antenna tip is black rubber and the new one is a crome button. Any ideas? The instructions that came with the new mast (from Rusty) are pretty clear - and I'm sure I followed them exactly - but the mast did *not* want to come out. TIA! Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) Loosen the nut first, run it up and before it stops get out there and catch it before it hits the side of the car pulling gently to remove the tail completely. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am