Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
that would make you a big spender with this bunch On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I'm a cheap bastard so I would value it at $500 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I guess he maybe paid too much and is afraid to say, but we will not make fun of him for paying too much. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
it's possible i commingled 2 conversations. i do remember mentioning goering's preference for the model 10. wilton could clear this up by telling us what he trained on and what he carried or something like that i have the model 19 rusty's father in law killed himself with. the family was going to just let it get smelted so i suggest it might be better to just sign it over to me On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I think Wilton later said it probably had a 4 inch barrel, maybe a model 10. That's what I trained on in 1968. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling he made claim that he was issued a small frame shot barrel revolver. from his description it would be a J frame with a 2 or shorter barrel. maybe he was issued a 4 inch barrel K frame. so we are talking about different guns as for shooting your way out surrounded by your highly armed enemy, i don't think it's going to matter a while hill of beans whether you are toting a 1911 or a k frame revolver. neither will get you out and both leave you relatively unarmed however, if you were telling me we were going to have a gun fight and offered for me to choose my weapon i'd pick the 1911 and let you have the revolver every time. i am unclear on why the air force chose to issue revolvers as well On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:39 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: We may be talking apples and oranges.. or we may be talking only apples.. Apparently.. crew issue sidearms were at the discretion of the armory at the departing base. Some flight crews were issued S W, K frame/4 inch barrel/6 round revolvers.. which was authorized issue. Others had access to the more desired Colt 1911 which were, sometimes available... Other crews were permitted to arm themselves with personally owned weapons.. at the discretion of the commanding officer.. most likely.. Rank, after all.. has it's privilege, and Flight Officers did what they did. In Wilton's case.. what ever happened happened.. I recall being issued the standard SW K frame.. and feeling seriously unarmed for the theater of operation. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh in on this discussion. To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
I know Jon's car well. The repair he did can only be a fraction of the value of his car. He likely drives the best W123 of all of us here. My car which is only 1/10th the car that Jon's is gets a repair here and there (front end rebuild,complete front brake job, etc.) which in parts alone almost equals the value of the entire car. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: That's what I would guess I suppose. I was curious as to the cost as compared to the value of the car. I guess he maybe paid too much and is afraid to say, but we will not make fun of him for paying too much. It was really intended as a reminder of how much money I save myself on car repairs. Maybe I should start a little repair business. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 16:12:54 -0400 From: jabbahur...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins jono probably hosed him good but i didn't feel it my business to ask in fact, i probably dont' even want to know as i don't want to make the you charged agne HOW MUCH for this crap? phone call My guess would be a tad over 2 grand, parts and labor. But Jon ain't sayin'. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
You're not getting good enough bread. I make my own the intensely lazy way http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/easy-no-knead-dutch-oven-crusty-bread.aspx With high quality unbleached flour http://www.heckersceresota.com/ and the results are fantastic. I mostly cook in the dutch oven as detailed above but occasionally I'll do it in a loaf pan. I need to get a smaller loaf pan, the one I have produces some weird loaves because its so big. -Curt Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 19:00:49 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes Message-ID: caciok3sf6okebwzwo36hma4wsq3m53fkpk6ddmbdnwjgog7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i've become more anti wheat than anti gluten. i find whole rye a good sub for whole wheat On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: NO, but we have reduced our gluten intake considerably. My wife's bread is just too good to abandon. The waffles are not gluten free - but there's less than in all white flour waffles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:32:23 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: d92b7604-744e-4ac8-913f-e579de479...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect). Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly quickly else it molds. Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found around here. Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread. My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready. You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that KitchenAid is great. If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non- wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if they have more time to absorb water before kneading. Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a bit, then bake. Best thing going, homemade bread! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Thanks, Grant. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh in on this discussion. To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US Supreme Court has ruled that it is NOT a duty of a policeman/woman to protect citizens. The only duty a policeman has is to protect himself. As stunning as this may be... it is the foundational basis for police to be armed.. to protect themselves, ONLY. We, the citizen, are on our own. [Sorry Andrew, bad news, I know]. Police do not stop crime. They report crime. Then consume great amounts of time and money chasing those who do crime... sort of.. to gather evidence which may or may not meet the burden of proof at trial to prove a crime was committed. If we indeed had a war on crime as we are told we do.. the body count would be much higher... and police officers would be much better at weapons handling. Some are.. many are not, as stated here. Grant... Who was always amazed at the military who gave command pilots nukes then armed them with 6 shot, short barrel .38 revolvers for personal protection when they ejected over hostile country... and always believed the crash axe was a better choice... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: All of this serves to highlight the wide-spread misunderstanding of the real nature of most police work, a misunderstanding largely fostered by the entertainment media. There are some well-trained and highly competent tactical police units but most police work is administrative information processing and a systematic showing of the flag. Not a criticism, that's just how it works. One common myth worth mentioning is the one that says it's dangerous for well-trained, law-abiding civilians to be armed but armed police are safe. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Local cop is in trouble because the hooker he was chasing after would not stop. She spun around, he could not tell what was going on, so he drew his service weapon. While it exited his holster, it went off and shot her in the leg. He needs some gun control clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; I'm no firearms expert and I never fondled the gun/weapon to study it in detail. It stayed it the holster ALL of the time, 'cept when clearing it upon receipt and return. I knew how to use it if necessary and, obviously, for qualification. It was a .38 S W with a short barrel - how short, I don't remember. I think it had 6 shots. I didn't care about the details of it 30 to 50 years ago, and I still don't. I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them, but I had very little interest in the details of .38 cal S W. Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh in on this discussion. To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US Supreme Court has ruled that it is NOT a duty of a policeman/woman to protect citizens. The only duty a policeman has is to protect himself. As stunning as this may be... it is the foundational basis for police to be armed.. to protect themselves, ONLY. We, the citizen, are on our own. [Sorry Andrew, bad news, I know]. Police do not stop crime. They report crime. Then consume great amounts of time and money chasing those who do crime... sort of.. to gather evidence which may or may not meet the burden of proof at trial to prove a crime was committed. If we indeed had a war on crime as we are told we do.. the body count would be much higher... and police officers would be much better at weapons handling. Some are.. many are not, as stated here. Grant... Who was always amazed at the military who gave command pilots nukes then armed them with 6 shot, short barrel .38 revolvers for personal protection when they ejected over hostile country... and always believed the crash axe was a better choice... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: All of this serves to highlight the wide-spread misunderstanding of the real nature of most police work, a misunderstanding largely fostered by the entertainment media. There are some well-trained and highly
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Exactly what I was thinking On Sep 8, 2013, at 2:22 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: that would make you a big spender with this bunch On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I'm a cheap bastard so I would value it at $500 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I guess he maybe paid too much and is afraid to say, but we will not make fun of him for paying too much. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Hi Curt, Sorry. I will not be able to make this year. I'll be in a simulator until 7pm learning about dual NDB approaches with a GPS RNAV overlay somewhere in Asia. Dimitri and I are thinking of sponsoring an event in Maine next year. Jon On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:32:23 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: d92b7604-744e-4ac8-913f-e579de479...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
Hand kneading is too much like real work. King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to the factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a common thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up some of the special bread flour thats only available at the factory. The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best I've ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely use anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above. I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big... -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes Message-ID: 7dcdfc3e-a8be-4c51-832f-375aa4bc2...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect). Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly quickly else it molds. Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found around here. Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread. My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready. You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that KitchenAid is great. If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non- wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if they have more time to absorb water before kneading. Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a bit, then bake. Best thing going, homemade bread! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Go for it, I'll drive up! -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:47:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: 352643a2-9e1e-42d6-9d3b-e4d8c9bb0...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Curt, Sorry. I will not be able to make this year. I'll be in a simulator until 7pm learning about dual NDB approaches with a GPS RNAV overlay somewhere in Asia. Dimitri and I are thinking of sponsoring an event in Maine next year. Jon On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
My pans are roughly 8x4x3 hxwxd. Makes a perfect sized loaf. Good luck finding something that size, though. I've got some nice tinned steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago that are just too big and don't have straight enough side. Don't know what to do with them, too nice to toss out but I never use them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
you don't know jono's tourist rate pricing! On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:11 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know Jon's car well. The repair he did can only be a fraction of the value of his car. He likely drives the best W123 of all of us here. My car which is only 1/10th the car that Jon's is gets a repair here and there (front end rebuild,complete front brake job, etc.) which in parts alone almost equals the value of the entire car. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: That's what I would guess I suppose. I was curious as to the cost as compared to the value of the car. I guess he maybe paid too much and is afraid to say, but we will not make fun of him for paying too much. It was really intended as a reminder of how much money I save myself on car repairs. Maybe I should start a little repair business. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 16:12:54 -0400 From: jabbahur...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins jono probably hosed him good but i didn't feel it my business to ask in fact, i probably dont' even want to know as i don't want to make the you charged agne HOW MUCH for this crap? phone call My guess would be a tad over 2 grand, parts and labor. But Jon ain't sayin'. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Bet you could have one heck of a weekend in Vegas with those survival kits! Dan Call me Buck Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; I'm no firearms expert and I never fondled the gun/weapon to study it in detail. It stayed it the holster ALL of the time, 'cept when clearing it upon receipt and return. I knew how to use it if necessary and, obviously, for qualification. It was a .38 S W with a short barrel - how short, I don't remember. I think it had 6 shots. I didn't care about the details of it 30 to 50 years ago, and I still don't. I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them, but I had very little interest in the details of .38 cal S W. Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh in on this discussion. To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US Supreme Court has ruled that it is NOT a duty of a policeman/woman to protect citizens. The only duty a policeman has is to protect himself. As stunning as this may be... it is the foundational basis for police to be armed.. to protect themselves, ONLY. We, the citizen, are on our own. [Sorry Andrew, bad news, I know]. Police do not stop crime. They report crime. Then consume great amounts of time and money chasing those who do crime... sort of.. to gather evidence which may or may not meet the burden of proof at trial to prove a crime was committed. If we indeed had a war on crime as we are told we do.. the body count would be much higher... and police officers would be much better at weapons handling. Some are.. many are not, as stated here. Grant... Who was always amazed at the military who gave command pilots nukes then armed them with 6 shot, short barrel .38 revolvers for personal protection when they ejected over hostile country... and always believed the crash axe was a better choice... On Sat, Sep
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Yep, many different types of things in the kits, including some items that most people would not imagine the need for in a survival situation. I'm sure some of my cohorts could put 'em to good use in Vegas, or their braggadocio afterward would try to make you think they did, anyway.;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Bet you could have one heck of a weekend in Vegas with those survival kits! Dan Call me Buck Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; I'm no firearms expert and I never fondled the gun/weapon to study it in detail. It stayed it the holster ALL of the time, 'cept when clearing it upon receipt and return. I knew how to use it if necessary and, obviously, for qualification. It was a .38 S W with a short barrel - how short, I don't remember. I think it had 6 shots. I didn't care about the details of it 30 to 50 years ago, and I still don't. I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them, but I had very little interest in the details of .38 cal S W. Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh in on this discussion. To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US Supreme Court has ruled that it is NOT a duty of a policeman/woman to protect citizens. The only duty a policeman has is to protect himself. As stunning as this may be... it is the foundational basis for police to be armed.. to protect themselves, ONLY. We, the citizen, are on our own. [Sorry Andrew, bad news, I know]. Police do not stop crime. They report crime. Then consume great amounts of time and money chasing those who do crime... sort of.. to gather evidence which may or may not meet the burden of proof at trial to prove a crime was committed. If we indeed had a war on crime as we are told we do.. the body count would be much higher... and police officers would be much
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
We use all whole grain flours from Bob's Red Mill. You can find some of it the stores, but we've taken to ordering it from them - it arrives at the front door, no muss, no fuss. By adding gluten flour, you can use any other combination and still get a nice textured loaf. My wife has also stopped using the bread pans altogether - just forms long rounded loafs and bakes them on a pizza stone. Works great. I think the current version uses spelt and buckwheat flours primarily, with some of the gluten flour. Yes, the Kitchen Aid is great for kneading it - been using it for 30+ years now. On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hand kneading is too much like real work. King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to the factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a common thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up some of the special bread flour thats only available at the factory. The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best I've ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely use anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above. I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big... -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes Message-ID: 7dcdfc3e-a8be-4c51-832f-375aa4bc2...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect). Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly quickly else it molds. Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found around here. Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread. My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready. You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that KitchenAid is great. If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non- wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if they have more time to absorb water before kneading. Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a bit, then bake. Best thing going, homemade bread! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - learning to land, was: W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Piper Vagabond in 1966 for me, but am now thinking that perhaps I need to learn instruments - might come in handy on a trip someday :-) On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: No.I learned how to land in a T-34C in 1983. On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Do they teach you to land too? --R On 9/7/13 4:18 PM, Jon Agne wrote: I am in Atlanta in the middle of 757-767 class at Delta. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
I got some non-stick glass loaf pans from Walmart (I think they are Corning or something like that) that work great as the loaves pop out easily. THey have a red coating on them. --R On 9/8/13 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Could you guys be any further away? Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 8:47 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Hi Curt, Sorry. I will not be able to make this year. I'll be in a simulator until 7pm learning about dual NDB approaches with a GPS RNAV overlay somewhere in Asia. Dimitri and I are thinking of sponsoring an event in Maine next year. Jon On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:32:23 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: d92b7604-744e-4ac8-913f-e579de479...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:32:23 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: d92b7604-744e-4ac8-913f-e579de479...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Just checking to see if you would have employment opportunities with Asiana --R On 9/8/13 12:33 AM, Jon Agne wrote: No.I learned how to land in a T-34C in 1983. On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Do they teach you to land too? --R On 9/7/13 4:18 PM, Jon Agne wrote: I am in Atlanta in the middle of 757-767 class at Delta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
Try adding some quinoa to the mix. We got some bread that has it from Whole Foods, it gives a neat nutty flavor. Also adds a complete protein to the bread making it much more nutritious. -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:50:43 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes Message-ID: CANZcij9RdjHyk0oYO83=kwwg4x6a54aaqs6+e0haa-hyxhg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We use all whole grain flours from Bob's Red Mill. You can find some of it the stores, but we've taken to ordering it from them - it arrives at the front door, no muss, no fuss. By adding gluten flour, you can use any other combination and still get a nice textured loaf. My wife has also stopped using the bread pans altogether - just forms long rounded loafs and bakes them on a pizza stone. Works great. I think the current version uses spelt and buckwheat flours primarily, with some of the gluten flour. Yes, the Kitchen Aid is great for kneading it - been using it for 30+ years now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rotting etc but OIL needs to be discussed
It's hard to go wrong with Delo 15w-40 although I like 5w-40 for winter. Made the block heater on my B-series not at all necessary. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The winter duty involves finding that one dry week and bundling up well so I can do a top down, cobweb cleaner ride to move fuel through things, make sure nothing has taken root inside and I can put fresh gas in the tank clay On Sep 5, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I use Delo 15W-40 in everything. SL's, dodge, lawn mower, etc. Doubt your SL needs lighter oil for winter duty. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] R134a LEAK STOP
This is about a 240, not a Mercedes, but a 1991 Volvo 240 that was converted from R12 to r134a about six years ago. By early this summer, it no longer was cooling the air, presumably due to loss of refrigerant. I added one 12 oz. can which brought it back for about two months. I suspect I did not fill it to capacity, but I did not want to risk overfilling. By last week it was again not blowing cold. I presume this would be considered a fast leak. Yesterday, I threw another can at it and it is blowing cold (not ice-cold). I would be interested in hearing informed opinion as to the pros and cons of introducing a can of stop leak to the system. Here are two products I am considering from Amazon. 1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HE6KJ4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p263_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r=0SE1FCX0KSZ0996N90QYpf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=1389517282pf_rd_i=507846#productDetails 2. http://www.amazon.com/InterDynamics-RLS-134-13oz-Refrigerant-Sealer/dp/B000COD8R6/ref=pd_sim_auto_4 This would be in lieu of finding my gauges, finding adapters for my old R-12 gauges, finding the high side port (which I think is under the radiator) and seeing what the gauges show. Or running my old R-12 leak detector around the suspect areas. Not that I would necessarily know what to do with any of that information. Adding a can of leak stop would be the path of least resistance. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8777 (20130908) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Android Email
When my Blackberry died I could not justify the purchase of another one. I consider the platform dead. I bought and iPhone 4S and haven't looked back. The iOS sandboxing is generally secure. The company I work for will require a special app for Android phones to pretty much do the same as iOS does out of the box. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I think going to a BlackBerry because Android doesn't have enough options may be a dead end. ;) I would choose a BB for security, privacy, and other reasons. There are many email clients for Android. I actually prefer the native Gmail app, I think Max was using k9, I tried K9. It doesn't play well with Hotmail. There are others, but I haven't investigated them much since I'm used to the Gmail app now. Can you use the gmail app with email other than gmail? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wilton's car
I'd try swapping the engine, leaving the trans; or pull the head on the 350 and see what's wrong. On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:56 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Are there not some upgrades to electrical beasties related to engines and transmissions going from the 300SDL 603 to the 350SDL 603? clay On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: First thing I would do is pull the injectors then see if it will turn over, if so then pull the head and fix it. If not you can swap the while engine/trans over if you want but would be better off sticking with the 3.5 if possible. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Not yet, I am going to skip work and go down Thursday or Friday. I will have two 126s for a while so stop by when you visit your in-laws, or put in some requests so I pull what you want before the scrap man comes. Generally, the plan is to do a motor swap, the 603 from my 300SDL into Wilton`s 350. I hope that the transmission is the same? Or else the whole thing is going in. :) Other than that I am curious about the condition of Wilton's engine, can anyone recommend any diagnostics? Seems a shame to scrap it if it is easy to fix, but I also don't want to blow a weekend troubleshooting only to wind up tossing it anyway. Best, Tim On Sep 3, 2013 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So did Tim get it? Wonder what he is going to do with his heap? I need some 126 parts, maybe he can pick a few before it goes to the knacker? --R On 9/2/13 9:11 PM, WILTON wrote: Wilton's 126 has been committed to a fine gentleman who plans to tow it about 82 miles NW to Chapel Hill, NC, and put a 603.960 in it. Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
I have said before, it is the nicest 123 sedan I have seen. On Sep 8, 2013 12:32 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. On Sep 7, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I guess he maybe paid too much and is afraid to say, but we will not make fun of him for paying too much. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
WILTON wrote: Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Was the .22 an AR-7? http://10mmman.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/ar7.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Only if he can land a 757 at Goddard park. Actually Jon- get a training flight to TF Green. It's only abot 8 miles from the park. On Sep 8, 2013 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:32:23 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: d92b7604-744e-4ac8-913f-e579de479...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rear windshield rr
I removed my Rear windshield and the metal frame as well as the old crumbling weatherstrip. Everything went well and the glass was not injured. I put the new weatherstrip in placeand I'm ready to put the metal frame into the weatherstrip, It is supposed to be better to put the metal frame in now rather than after the weatherstrip glass is installed but they're the expertsalso, the metal frame provides most of the strength. Anyway - the instructions say to use 2 (two) lengthsof cord. It's not explained in the WSM and I've always used only a single cord... Do both cords go in the same channel? Do both go all the way around or perhaps one is used on one half and the other on the remaining half of weatherstrip? There may be 2 rubber lips to go over the body flange - maybe 1 cord works with the inner rubber seal and one cord for the outer Lip? (although I've never seen this before.) Any ideas? Thx LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R134a LEAK STOP
Stop-leak isn't going to fix the deteriorated o-rings and/or leaking hoses that are causing your leak. Find your hose set, buy some R134A fittings for it, and then vent out (recover) the freon in there and take apart EVERY fitting. Replace the 0-rings with proper sized R134a compatible ones (green) and make sure the hoses don't rotate on the compression fittings. If they do, you need to find a hydraulic cylinder repair place to remove and replace the hoses (they are simple compression fittings over barbs, and they have the correct hose as a general rule). Not expensive. Put it back together and pull a good vac. If it holds for a few hours, you are good to go. If not, find the leak. Check over the condenser carefully for oil spots or placed where dirt and dust appear to be sticking -- I finally fixed the AC in the TE after a decade when I replaced mine. Your R12 detector will work fine with R134a, or put some dye in and run it a while then look for leaks. Don't neglect the compressor fittings, either! If the leak is too big for the stop-leak to fix, it can set up in the whole system and ruin a compressor, you don't want to do that. Most likely you have a dead o-ring or two, most probably in the high pressure side, or a leaking hose up there. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
'Don't thinks so; don't remember a stock like that; it was some sort of an open steel or aluminum rod stock that could slide and/or clip into place. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling WILTON wrote: Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Was the .22 an AR-7? http://10mmman.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/ar7.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear windshield rr
Put the metal in now, it's pretty much impossible to get it in after the window is in. You can use one cord, two times around. This is just for insurance in case you don't get the lip all the way over on the first wrap. Use some silicone spray, it makes the job easier. We found it easiest to have one person outside pressing the glass into place and another inside pulling the cords. If I remember correctly, we set most of the bottom edge inner lip over the body flange and dropped the glass onto the channel at the top, but it really doesn't matter so long as you have it pressed into place well enough to get that inner lip over the flange. Once you get the majority of it over the flange, the rest will want to pop in quickly. Make sure you get the bottom corners on the first try, they are the hardest to reach and stiffest. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
WILTON wrote: 'Don't thinks so; don't remember a stock like that; it was some sort of an open steel or aluminum rod stock that could slide and/or clip into place. Doesn't sound like an M6 (.22/.410) either, then. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6f=2t=376014 How about the M4 in .22 Hornet? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Survival_Rifle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
M4, maybe. 'Had to be short enough to fit into seat pack, between my butt and the bottom of the ejection seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling WILTON wrote: 'Don't thinks so; don't remember a stock like that; it was some sort of an open steel or aluminum rod stock that could slide and/or clip into place. Doesn't sound like an M6 (.22/.410) either, then. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6f=2t=376014 How about the M4 in .22 Hornet? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Survival_Rifle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
Complete with toxins from China? I'm looking for something not-coated and made in the USA, I'll coat with butter my own self. -Curt Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 14:00:27 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes Message-ID: 522cbb3b.3070...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I got some non-stick glass loaf pans from Walmart (I think they are Corning or something like that) that work great as the loaves pop out easily. THey have a red coating on them. --R On 9/8/13 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy=fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
+1 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:28:13 -0400 From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: cah-alp8f-evv0k9jz6tdzwn2fqnskesbbrxsrabvqjrt_lp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have said before, it is the nicest 123 sedan I have seen. On Sep 8, 2013 12:32 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Nope. I'm definitely not afraid of what you all say. As far as the value of my car is concerned, you'd have to see it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Vegas survival kit' Big bag full of cash... spare keys to your nice car, credit cards. Little bag with a change of socks and underwear and a bus ticket home... and a snickers bar. When the big bag is empty and at the pawn shop.. pick up little bag and come home... if you didn't hock it also.. What you bring to Vegas... stays in Vegas... It is written... Grant... On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Bet you could have one heck of a weekend in Vegas with those survival kits! Dan Call me Buck Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; I'm no firearms expert and I never fondled the gun/weapon to study it in detail. It stayed it the holster ALL of the time, 'cept when clearing it upon receipt and return. I knew how to use it if necessary and, obviously, for qualification. It was a .38 S W with a short barrel - how short, I don't remember. I think it had 6 shots. I didn't care about the details of it 30 to 50 years ago, and I still don't. I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them, but I had very little interest in the details of .38 cal S W. Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh in on this discussion. To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US Supreme Court has ruled that it is NOT a duty of a policeman/woman to protect citizens. The only duty a policeman has is to protect himself. As stunning as this may be... it is the foundational basis for police to be armed.. to protect themselves, ONLY. We, the citizen, are on our own. [Sorry Andrew, bad news, I know]. Police do not stop crime. They report crime. Then consume great amounts of time and money chasing those who do crime... sort of.. to gather evidence which may or may not meet the burden of proof at trial to prove a crime was committed. If we indeed had a war on crime as we are told we do.. the
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy=fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
I was paraphrasing from a quote in Dr. Strangelove that Slim Pickens (as Major T.J. Kong, pilot of the B-52) makes as they are beginning their bomb run and inventorying their survival kits. The original line referenced Dallas, TX, but since the movie was released shortly after President Kennedy was assassinated they changed it to Las Vegas. Dan On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:23 PM, G Mann wrote: Vegas survival kit' Big bag full of cash... spare keys to your nice car, credit cards. Little bag with a change of socks and underwear and a bus ticket home... and a snickers bar. When the big bag is empty and at the pawn shop.. pick up little bag and come home... if you didn't hock it also.. What you bring to Vegas... stays in Vegas... It is written... Grant... On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Bet you could have one heck of a weekend in Vegas with those survival kits! Dan Call me Buck Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; I'm no firearms expert and I never fondled the gun/weapon to study it in detail. It stayed it the holster ALL of the time, 'cept when clearing it upon receipt and return. I knew how to use it if necessary and, obviously, for qualification. It was a .38 S W with a short barrel - how short, I don't remember. I think it had 6 shots. I didn't care about the details of it 30 to 50 years ago, and I still don't. I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them, but I had very little interest in the details of .38 cal S W. Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh in on this discussion. To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US Supreme Court has ruled that it is NOT a duty of a policeman/woman to protect citizens. The only duty a policeman has is to protect himself. As stunning as this may be... it is the foundational basis for police to be armed.. to protect themselves, ONLY. We, the citizen, are on our own. [Sorry Andrew, bad news, I know]. Police do not stop crime. They report crime. Then consume great amounts of time and money chasing those who do crime... sort of.. to gather evidence which may or may not meet the burden of proof at trial to prove a crime was committed. If we indeed
[MBZ] OT: Jetta TDI
I've had some time now with my Jetta and its quite a different beast from an MB, except for rust, it rusts in the same place (rockers under the doors) just like my MBs have. I got the sunroof and interior lights working by unplugging the vacuum pump that runs the central locking. That beast is interesting as it looks just like the unit used in my '84 190D but with a different connector. Dr Fatty shows one on his site but its spendy, I plan to see if I can resurrect mine, for now I can live with no central locking. Managed to lose the headlights and wipers but that seems likely to be caused by failure of the ignition switch, cheap part if slightly annoying to replace. Spent some time today on basic rust remediation, driver's side stuff I could reach with the car on the ground and didn't have to weld to fix. A little fiberglass and some POR15 to stabilize, later I'll paint so it looks better. Next I'll do the same on the other side, then put it up so I can do some rocker rebuilding. Fortunately we just replaced our microwave so I've got a ready supply of metal ;) I've decided to call the sunroof Wilton or The Wilton. Haven't figured out a name for the whole car yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Broken hood springs on the SD
I went out to change the rad hoses on the SD I am getting sorted to give to the girlchild, tried to raise the hood, was very hard. I thought maybe a hinge had seized up but they are nice and clean, no issues there. I hoist it up and stick a 2x4 in there to hold it up, both springs are rusted/fused and snapped on one end. This must have just happened, I had the hood up a coupla weeks ago. I am glad they did not let go with me under the hood working on something, that would have been exciting. I tried to prop it up with the vertical stop thingies but only one side would engage -- do the hinges need the springs for that to work? I recall the springs are just flopping there when the hood is vertical, so I'm not sure why the one side won't snap in. I guess DrFatty's magic parts supply needs to get me some new ones. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Vegas never had me, but they really lost me for good when the hotel a few years ago when I was there for a military reunion made me hobble painfully and precariously, picking my way through, amongst and though many slot machines and card games across a HUGE room to get to the check-in desk on the far, back side of the room from the entry. 'Made us wait another 3 hours or so 'til 3 PM before we could go to our room. Then, guys at the service desk told SWMBO for 2 days that they didn't have wheelchairs for guests, though we saw several with hotel logo/name on 'em. When SWMBO asked again en route to breakfast on third day, service guy told her to ask at the security desk by the restaurant. When SWMBO asked at security desk, security guy was incredulous, He told you WHAT!? You stop by here after breakfast; I'll get you a wheelchair. We did, and he did. 'Used it for next coupla days; 'never registered to pay the supposed required rent on it and left it outside front door when we left by taxi at 4 or 5 AM. I made damned sure I didn't drop a coin or bill of any sort in a slot machine or card game. I won't be back. BTW, I'd been to Vegas several times before, so I was not some naive, country hick shocked by it all. They can go to etc. BTW, in 1961/62, we lived in Rancho Cordova, CA, near Hwy 50 between Sacramento and Tahoe/State Line. Local saying was, Lotsa people headed up the mountain on Friday afternoon on $4000 Cadillacs returned Sunday evening on $4 buses. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Vegas survival kit' Big bag full of cash... spare keys to your nice car, credit cards. Little bag with a change of socks and underwear and a bus ticket home... and a snickers bar. When the big bag is empty and at the pawn shop.. pick up little bag and come home... if you didn't hock it also.. What you bring to Vegas... stays in Vegas... It is written... Grant... On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Bet you could have one heck of a weekend in Vegas with those survival kits! Dan Call me Buck Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; I'm no firearms expert and I never fondled the gun/weapon to study it in detail. It stayed it the holster ALL of the time, 'cept when clearing it upon receipt and return. I knew how to use it if necessary and, obviously, for qualification. It was a .38 S W with a short barrel - how short, I don't remember. I think it had 6 shots. I didn't care about the details of it 30 to 50 years ago, and I still don't. I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them, but I had very little interest in the details of .38 cal S W. Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I
[MBZ] Monovalve plug
Someone wanted a monovalve plug? I've found one in my stash. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Monovalve plug
mike esh wants one On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Someone wanted a monovalve plug? I've found one in my stash. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Yep, Slim (T. J.) did mention the special items, didn't he? No such inventory would ever have occurred in flight on a real such mission. Example of writer trying to insert another joke. BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. For example, pilot never read any checklist for bombing or its prep and sure as Hell wouldn't have gone into the bomb bay for ANYTHING - if anybody did, it would have been the navigator or radar-navigator/bombardier. All of the in flight dialog was very stilted, imaginary BS - not like the real world at all. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling I was paraphrasing from a quote in Dr. Strangelove that Slim Pickens (as Major T.J. Kong, pilot of the B-52) makes as they are beginning their bomb run and inventorying their survival kits. The original line referenced Dallas, TX, but since the movie was released shortly after President Kennedy was assassinated they changed it to Las Vegas. Dan On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:23 PM, G Mann wrote: Vegas survival kit' Big bag full of cash... spare keys to your nice car, credit cards. Little bag with a change of socks and underwear and a bus ticket home... and a snickers bar. When the big bag is empty and at the pawn shop.. pick up little bag and come home... if you didn't hock it also.. What you bring to Vegas... stays in Vegas... It is written... Grant... On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Bet you could have one heck of a weekend in Vegas with those survival kits! Dan Call me Buck Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; I'm no firearms expert and I never fondled the gun/weapon to study it in detail. It stayed it the holster ALL of the time, 'cept when clearing it upon receipt and return. I knew how to use it if necessary and, obviously, for qualification. It was a .38 S W with a short barrel - how short, I don't remember. I think it had 6 shots. I didn't care about the details of it 30 to 50 years ago, and I still don't. I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them, but I had very little interest in the details of .38 cal S W. Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back due to issues.. 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from shroud lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. Jolly Green.. where are you? Grant... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with 6 shots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: by back in the day, you are talking about 18 hundred and what? the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 bullets. when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G I issue was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the Nuke Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and one of butt lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. Grant.. Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann
Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta TDI
Thanks for the honor. Wilt - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Jetta TDI I've had some time now with my Jetta and its quite a different beast from an MB, except for rust, it rusts in the same place (rockers under the doors) just like my MBs have. I got the sunroof and interior lights working by unplugging the vacuum pump that runs the central locking. That beast is interesting as it looks just like the unit used in my '84 190D but with a different connector. Dr Fatty shows one on his site but its spendy, I plan to see if I can resurrect mine, for now I can live with no central locking. Managed to lose the headlights and wipers but that seems likely to be caused by failure of the ignition switch, cheap part if slightly annoying to replace. Spent some time today on basic rust remediation, driver's side stuff I could reach with the car on the ground and didn't have to weld to fix. A little fiberglass and some POR15 to stabilize, later I'll paint so it looks better. Next I'll do the same on the other side, then put it up so I can do some rocker rebuilding. Fortunately we just replaced our microwave so I've got a ready supply of metal ;) I've decided to call the sunroof Wilton or The Wilton. Haven't figured out a name for the whole car yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken hood springs on the SD
Tim may have some extras soon. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Broken hood springs on the SD I went out to change the rad hoses on the SD I am getting sorted to give to the girlchild, tried to raise the hood, was very hard. I thought maybe a hinge had seized up but they are nice and clean, no issues there. I hoist it up and stick a 2x4 in there to hold it up, both springs are rusted/fused and snapped on one end. This must have just happened, I had the hood up a coupla weeks ago. I am glad they did not let go with me under the hood working on something, that would have been exciting. I tried to prop it up with the vertical stop thingies but only one side would engage -- do the hinges need the springs for that to work? I recall the springs are just flopping there when the hood is vertical, so I'm not sure why the one side won't snap in. I guess DrFatty's magic parts supply needs to get me some new ones. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Yes, but were you aware that their depiction of the cockpit and equipment was so spot-on that the USAF was convinced someone had leaked TS material to them? In the early 60s, the B-52 was cutting-edge technology. Access to it was a matter of national security. The Pentagon refused to lend any support to the film after they read the script. Set designers reconstructed the B-52 bomber's cockpit from a single photograph that appeared in a British flying magazine. When some American Air Force personnel were invited to view the movie's B52 cockpit, they said it was a perfect copy.Stanley Kubrick feared that Ken Adam's production design team had used illegal methods and could be investigated by the FBI. Dan On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:49 PM, WILTON wrote: Yep, Slim (T. J.) did mention the special items, didn't he? No such inventory would ever have occurred in flight on a real such mission. Example of writer trying to insert another joke. BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. For example, pilot never read any checklist for bombing or its prep and sure as Hell wouldn't have gone into the bomb bay for ANYTHING - if anybody did, it would have been the navigator or radar-navigator/bombardier. All of the in flight dialog was very stilted, imaginary BS - not like the real world at all. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Most of the cockpit photos were spot on, except one really big item - there was no box displaying receipt of messages, go codes, etc. At that time, such was still in somebody's imagination. We received all such messages via voice and copied 'em onto a plastic-covered form with grease pencil. Such electronic box was just getting into the fleet when I retired in late '81. I never used it. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Yes, but were you aware that their depiction of the cockpit and equipment was so spot-on that the USAF was convinced someone had leaked TS material to them? In the early 60s, the B-52 was cutting-edge technology. Access to it was a matter of national security. The Pentagon refused to lend any support to the film after they read the script. Set designers reconstructed the B-52 bomber's cockpit from a single photograph that appeared in a British flying magazine. When some American Air Force personnel were invited to view the movie's B52 cockpit, they said it was a perfect copy.Stanley Kubrick feared that Ken Adam's production design team had used illegal methods and could be investigated by the FBI. Dan On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:49 PM, WILTON wrote: Yep, Slim (T. J.) did mention the special items, didn't he? No such inventory would ever have occurred in flight on a real such mission. Example of writer trying to insert another joke. BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. For example, pilot never read any checklist for bombing or its prep and sure as Hell wouldn't have gone into the bomb bay for ANYTHING - if anybody did, it would have been the navigator or radar-navigator/bombardier. All of the in flight dialog was very stilted, imaginary BS - not like the real world at all. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
I was on a Looking Glass aircraft once and got a tour of the SAC underground command center. They ran through simulations on both. Exciting. Then I got to crawl around a NEACP 747. That was very cool. Next day we crawled around the VLF transmitter out in the middle of BF, NB. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:16 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Most of the cockpit photos were spot on, except one really big item - there was no box displaying receipt of messages, go codes, etc. At that time, such was still in somebody's imagination. We received all such messages via voice and copied 'em onto a plastic-covered form with grease pencil. Such electronic box was just getting into the fleet when I retired in late '81. I never used it. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Yes, but were you aware that their depiction of the cockpit and equipment was so spot-on that the USAF was convinced someone had leaked TS material to them? In the early 60s, the B-52 was cutting-edge technology. Access to it was a matter of national security. The Pentagon refused to lend any support to the film after they read the script. Set designers reconstructed the B-52 bomber's cockpit from a single photograph that appeared in a British flying magazine. When some American Air Force personnel were invited to view the movie's B52 cockpit, they said it was a perfect copy.Stanley Kubrick feared that Ken Adam's production design team had used illegal methods and could be investigated by the FBI. Dan On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:49 PM, WILTON wrote: Yep, Slim (T. J.) did mention the special items, didn't he? No such inventory would ever have occurred in flight on a real such mission. Example of writer trying to insert another joke. BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. For example, pilot never read any checklist for bombing or its prep and sure as Hell wouldn't have gone into the bomb bay for ANYTHING - if anybody did, it would have been the navigator or radar-navigator/bombardier. All of the in flight dialog was very stilted, imaginary BS - not like the real world at all. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. But fun, very fun. One of my favorite movies. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Monovalve plug
Thanks, Gary. Paging Mike Esh, paging Mike Esh. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Monovalve plug mike esh wants one On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Someone wanted a monovalve plug? I've found one in my stash. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; My guess as to why it might have been the issue weapon is that it'd be operable one-handed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
And I did operate it with one hand. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling I don't remember the details of the .38 we B-52 crewmen were issued; My guess as to why it might have been the issue weapon is that it'd be operable one-handed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Excellent Dimitri.. You have just raised the classic score of the event exponentially. You might even win the pagoda class award. On Sep 8, 2013 5:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy=fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
where in Va is the Pagoda 50th? LarryT On 9/8/2013 8:21 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Excellent Dimitri.. You have just raised the classic score of the event exponentially. You might even win the pagoda class award. On Sep 8, 2013 5:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy=fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Wilton wrote: I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them... 25 years ago I remember taking the kids to Peterson AFB in Colorado Springs at one of their open house days. We were allowed to walk right up under a B-52, if I recall correctly. I recall being amazed at how small the bomb carrying compartment in the middle of the airplane seemed. I had in mind seeing war footage that showed bombs dropping from B-52 and that compartment did not seem capable of carrying that many bombs. I guess you also carried bombs under the wings? I just recall being amazed that we would fly that huge airplane for hours, refuel, spend a few minutes dropping bombs at Nam, and then fly hours back to be re-armed. I was no peacenik, but... it seemed like a lot of effort to spend hours traveling to spend minutes dropping bombs. That was my impression. These days? - I tire of war efforts, again, not being much a peacenik, just tired of the seeming futility of the jazz that goes in to seeming peace keeping efforts. So... call me peacenik... whatever. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Williamsburg. http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=19123.0 http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=19031.0 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins where in Va is the Pagoda 50th? LarryT On 9/8/2013 8:21 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Excellent Dimitri.. You have just raised the classic score of the event exponentially. You might even win the pagoda class award. On Sep 8, 2013 5:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy=fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Haha. Guess I have to polish up my 20 footer:) From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Excellent Dimitri.. You have just raised the classic score of the event exponentially. You might even win the pagoda class award. On Sep 8, 2013 5:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy=fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Interior bomb bay of D model B-52 carried 84 five hundred pound conventional (iron) bombs (sometimes a mix of 500 and 750 pounders); pylon on each wing carried 12; total 108. H models still in service have same bomb bay but may not be using the concentrated clips/racks (so-called Big Belly mod.) used on the D models in Vietnam. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Wilton wrote: I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them... 25 years ago I remember taking the kids to Peterson AFB in Colorado Springs at one of their open house days. We were allowed to walk right up under a B-52, if I recall correctly. I recall being amazed at how small the bomb carrying compartment in the middle of the airplane seemed. I had in mind seeing war footage that showed bombs dropping from B-52 and that compartment did not seem capable of carrying that many bombs. I guess you also carried bombs under the wings? I just recall being amazed that we would fly that huge airplane for hours, refuel, spend a few minutes dropping bombs at Nam, and then fly hours back to be re-armed. I was no peacenik, but... it seemed like a lot of effort to spend hours traveling to spend minutes dropping bombs. That was my impression. These days? - I tire of war efforts, again, not being much a peacenik, just tired of the seeming futility of the jazz that goes in to seeming peace keeping efforts. So... call me peacenik... whatever. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
I'll defer to the list expert, but I suspect what you were seeing was footage of smaller bombs being dropped from racks within the bomb bays, not nukes. Dan who would not care to be intimate with any thermonuclear device On Sep 8, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Wilton wrote: I knew all of the intimate details of the nuclear weapons and/or conventional weapons (as appropriate) in our huge bomb bay and how to use them... 25 years ago I remember taking the kids to Peterson AFB in Colorado Springs at one of their open house days. We were allowed to walk right up under a B-52, if I recall correctly. I recall being amazed at how small the bomb carrying compartment in the middle of the airplane seemed. I had in mind seeing war footage that showed bombs dropping from B-52 and that compartment did not seem capable of carrying that many bombs. I guess you also carried bombs under the wings? I just recall being amazed that we would fly that huge airplane for hours, refuel, spend a few minutes dropping bombs at Nam, and then fly hours back to be re-armed. I was no peacenik, but... it seemed like a lot of effort to spend hours traveling to spend minutes dropping bombs. That was my impression. These days? - I tire of war efforts, again, not being much a peacenik, just tired of the seeming futility of the jazz that goes in to seeming peace keeping efforts. So... call me peacenik... whatever. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this
Jaime, I contacted the seller but he was unable to show it to me before the time that I had to leave the area. From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this Ok, I'd say of you're interested in passing some time, please go check it out! But don't go out of your way. Most important to me is lack of rust and rust repair. And condition of the interior. Original everything is good, even if its in desperate need of service. Hack job repairs and non original parts are a major turn off. But clean original rocker panels would make this car. Thanks Jaime On Saturday, September 7, 2013, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I'm sorta interested Hmmm. On Friday, September 6, 2013, wrote: Ok, ya'll. I'm at a wedding in the poconos this weekend which is 7 miles from this car. If anyone is interested, I can check it out. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Its a 1976... first year W123... anything is possible in these early cars. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You need to buy that, its the weirdest car ever. Are the seats factory? What'd they call that? The faux Japanese mirrors can't be stock, but they're awesome... -Curt Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:50:42 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Someone needs this Message-ID: cacy-bakohdfduefwmaly21du16ncun_doqbnqfkpmw5cjxh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe I should buy it since I don't have anything to tow my utility trailer with since my E320 wagon is gone. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1976-Mercedes-Benz-250-4-speed-stick-56000-miles-/261279665199?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3cd57b4c2f#ht_500wt_1182 -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
Peter wrote: I've got some nice tinned steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago that are just too big and don't have straight enough side. Don't know what to do with them, too nice to toss out but I never use them. Maybe sell them to someone here that makes bread? What size are they? What price do you need? Do you drink Assam tea? as barter? All this talk of flour. Doesn't anyone grind their own flour? We grind our flour and make bread by hand knead. We make a very tasty sourdough Polish bread that is full of different seeds and tasty. Also, we used to add gluten to bread to make a better loaf but have quit using gluten entirely. I forget what got us away from gluten. We usually make rye with molasses and then also the Polish sourdough. Bread is too nice to not make at home, fresh ground. My first grinder I would spend 2 hours grinding by hand for a batch of bread. Then I bought some sheaves and belts at grainger, added a washing machine motor and let electricity do the work. A friend had a nice wood cased electric grinder that was attractive, but when I called Retsel in McCammon, ID, the guy convinced me that ugly but fully cleanable was best, so we use the Retsel - not cheap, but very durable stone grinder. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Well since it is a pagoda we might just give you 10 footer status. On Sep 8, 2013 9:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Haha. Guess I have to polish up my 20 footer:) From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Excellent Dimitri.. You have just raised the classic score of the event exponentially. You might even win the pagoda class award. On Sep 8, 2013 5:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy= fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Well I was being kind to my car. It's really a 30 footer! The tobacco brown color masks the rust nicely!! From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Well since it is a pagoda we might just give you 10 footer status. On Sep 8, 2013 9:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Haha. Guess I have to polish up my 20 footer:) From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Excellent Dimitri.. You have just raised the classic score of the event exponentially. You might even win the pagoda class award. On Sep 8, 2013 5:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy= fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Well then maybe you could win the jalopnik award that Curt gives out. Haha. On Sep 8, 2013 9:20 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I was being kind to my car. It's really a 30 footer! The tobacco brown color masks the rust nicely!! From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Well since it is a pagoda we might just give you 10 footer status. On Sep 8, 2013 9:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Haha. Guess I have to polish up my 20 footer:) From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Excellent Dimitri.. You have just raised the classic score of the event exponentially. You might even win the pagoda class award. On Sep 8, 2013 5:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:22:26 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: CAKOy= fwppwgtb_+7uc2khax3pudco7z4trmvnkafjepjkcp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems this years Chowda Q stayed under the radar. Bob R On Sep 8, 2013 7:42 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of which, will we see it, are you coming to chowdaQ next weekend? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Dan wrote: ...I suspect what you were seeing was footage of smaller bombs being dropped from racks within the bomb bays, not nukes. Definitely not nukes in my memory. Footage of Pacific nuke tests - different animal entirely. Intimacy with thermonucular is non issue. Ain't no time to think twice or run fast enuf. Ask Hirosima. Ask Nagasaki. To think... USA is abhorred that someone uses chemicals to kill a few citizens today, but we obliterated two cities, no repurcussions. Peacenik? - maybe more than I want to admit in today's environment. Our system is open corruption in too many ways to proffer allegiance, I suggest. That is the direction I am headed, having seen what little I have seen. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins
Excellent! -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 17:27:08 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins Message-ID: 73ee30cc-8e23-486a-a338-83f93a280...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So I will likely attend ChowdaQ after all. I'm just too busy to drive down to VA for the pagoda 50th anniversary. I will likely just bring the pagoda to the Q. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think some people just pay attention better than others, Dwight has been touting it in his usual form. I'm responsible for Peachparts... http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/ChowdaQ13_zps76cd35ca.png -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this
No problem... thanks for the effort. Let me see what I can get out of him. Jaime On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Jaime, I contacted the seller but he was unable to show it to me before the time that I had to leave the area. From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this Ok, I'd say of you're interested in passing some time, please go check it out! But don't go out of your way. Most important to me is lack of rust and rust repair. And condition of the interior. Original everything is good, even if its in desperate need of service. Hack job repairs and non original parts are a major turn off. But clean original rocker panels would make this car. Thanks Jaime On Saturday, September 7, 2013, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I'm sorta interested Hmmm. On Friday, September 6, 2013, wrote: Ok, ya'll. I'm at a wedding in the poconos this weekend which is 7 miles from this car. If anyone is interested, I can check it out. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Its a 1976... first year W123... anything is possible in these early cars. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You need to buy that, its the weirdest car ever. Are the seats factory? What'd they call that? The faux Japanese mirrors can't be stock, but they're awesome... -Curt Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:50:42 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Someone needs this Message-ID: cacy-bakohdfduefwmaly21du16ncun_doqbnqfkpmw5cjxh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe I should buy it since I don't have anything to tow my utility trailer with since my E320 wagon is gone. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1976-Mercedes-Benz-250-4-speed-stick-56000-miles-/261279665199?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3cd57b4c2f#ht_500wt_1182 -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Sheesh Wilton now you've done it. I wrote not one, not two but THREE papers on that movie in college. No joke, I went to film school remember. I actually saw the movie in class, I can't remember if it was Film History or something else. I did write a paper on it for Film History, another was a technical dissection for Lighting, I can't remember the third other than I did it, maybe something on the use of black and white as an artistic decision... Anyway don't for one second thing any of the dialog in that movie was written by accident. If its stilted its stilted on purpose... -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 18:49:16 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Message-ID: 8F57E18D42004311AD58ADCEDC72B4D8@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, Slim (T. J.) did mention the special items, didn't he? No such inventory would ever have occurred in flight on a real such mission. Example of writer trying to insert another joke. BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. For example, pilot never read any checklist for bombing or its prep and sure as Hell wouldn't have gone into the bomb bay for ANYTHING - if anybody did, it would have been the navigator or radar-navigator/bombardier. All of the in flight dialog was very stilted, imaginary BS - not like the real world at all. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
AR-7 (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-7 ) was used in some survival kits from that era. Originally made by Armalite, Henry Repeating Arms still makes them. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling WILTON wrote: Also had 3 crash axes in the cabin and a .22 cal (long rifle shells) fold-up survival rife in every seat pack survival kit on the airplane. 'Don't remember a lot of the details of those, either, but I knew how to use 'em. Was the .22 an AR-7? http://10mmman.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/ar7.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Yes, I understand that; I'm afraid, though, that many think/thought that a lot of that satire was depicting real life, or maybe, didn't get the joke(s). Because I was living it for real every day (overall for nearly fourteen years), it was a bit hard on me to know that some people think/thought that was the way it really was. 'Don't mean to imply any discredit to the movie - it was/is, after all, a MOVIE - entertainment - not a completely accurate representation of the real flight and actions that I lived daily. Isn't that the way of most any movie, play, etc., for one who is intimately familiar with the story in real life? BTW, one of the best scenes for me was when George C. Scott (was it Gen. Jack Ripper?) was enthusiastically telling the President how the bomber could get right on down REAL LOW, beneath the radar - stuff we practiced on every training mission. I've enjoyed the movie several times, too. When I get a chance, I'll see it again. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Sheesh Wilton now you've done it. I wrote not one, not two but THREE papers on that movie in college. No joke, I went to film school remember. I actually saw the movie in class, I can't remember if it was Film History or something else. I did write a paper on it for Film History, another was a technical dissection for Lighting, I can't remember the third other than I did it, maybe something on the use of black and white as an artistic decision... Anyway don't for one second thing any of the dialog in that movie was written by accident. If its stilted its stilted on purpose... -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 18:49:16 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Message-ID: 8F57E18D42004311AD58ADCEDC72B4D8@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, Slim (T. J.) did mention the special items, didn't he? No such inventory would ever have occurred in flight on a real such mission. Example of writer trying to insert another joke. BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. For example, pilot never read any checklist for bombing or its prep and sure as Hell wouldn't have gone into the bomb bay for ANYTHING - if anybody did, it would have been the navigator or radar-navigator/bombardier. All of the in flight dialog was very stilted, imaginary BS - not like the real world at all. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Frying chickens in the barnyard! George C. Scott was General Buck Turgidson. Dan and sug - be sure to say your prayers. Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, I understand that; I'm afraid, though, that many think/thought that a lot of that satire was depicting real life, or maybe, didn't get the joke(s). Because I was living it for real every day (overall for nearly fourteen years), it was a bit hard on me to know that some people think/thought that was the way it really was. 'Don't mean to imply any discredit to the movie - it was/is, after all, a MOVIE - entertainment - not a completely accurate representation of the real flight and actions that I lived daily. Isn't that the way of most any movie, play, etc., for one who is intimately familiar with the story in real life? BTW, one of the best scenes for me was when George C. Scott (was it Gen. Jack Ripper?) was enthusiastically telling the President how the bomber could get right on down REAL LOW, beneath the radar - stuff we practiced on every training mission. I've enjoyed the movie several times, too. When I get a chance, I'll see it again. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Sheesh Wilton now you've done it. I wrote not one, not two but THREE papers on that movie in college. No joke, I went to film school remember. I actually saw the movie in class, I can't remember if it was Film History or something else. I did write a paper on it for Film History, another was a technical dissection for Lighting, I can't remember the third other than I did it, maybe something on the use of black and white as an artistic decision... Anyway don't for one second thing any of the dialog in that movie was written by accident. If its stilted its stilted on purpose... -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 18:49:16 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Message-ID: 8F57E18D42004311AD58ADCEDC72B4D8@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, Slim (T. J.) did mention the special items, didn't he? No such inventory would ever have occurred in flight on a real such mission. Example of writer trying to insert another joke. BTW, y'all do realize, don't you that most (almost ALL) of the stuff in that movie was BS from somebody's imagination. For example, pilot never read any checklist for bombing or its prep and sure as Hell wouldn't have gone into the bomb bay for ANYTHING - if anybody did, it would have been the navigator or radar-navigator/bombardier. All of the in flight dialog was very stilted, imaginary BS - not like the real world at all. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: To think... USA is abhorred that someone uses chemicals to kill a few citizens today, but we obliterated two cities, no repurcussions. Exactly what repercussions would you have liked to have seen for what was probably the best course of action at the time, given available evidence, to decisively end a war whose aggressors threatened to enslave the entire planet under totalitarianism? As someone with WW2 vets and Holocaust survivors on both sides of my family, I find this comparison ignorant, naive, misguided, morally reprehensible, and deeply offensive. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
i see. so nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians prevented the planet from being enslaved. but we made them free, only to have the next group we were challenged by be on the cusp of enslaving the world fortunately we were able to stop the kaiser from enslaving us, or, oh boy, think how stupid we'd be looking right now wearing those helmets with those points on them while living in a wurst eating servitude! be offended by anyone who might disagree with you. accuse them of trying to enslave you. feign the moral high ground and then kill, kill, kill! On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: To think... USA is abhorred that someone uses chemicals to kill a few citizens today, but we obliterated two cities, no repurcussions. Exactly what repercussions would you have liked to have seen for what was probably the best course of action at the time, given available evidence, to decisively end a war whose aggressors threatened to enslave the entire planet under totalitarianism? As someone with WW2 vets and Holocaust survivors on both sides of my family, I find this comparison ignorant, naive, misguided, morally reprehensible, and deeply offensive. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
i do admire many elements of your lifestyle, gordon On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Peter wrote: I've got some nice tinned steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago that are just too big and don't have straight enough side. Don't know what to do with them, too nice to toss out but I never use them. Maybe sell them to someone here that makes bread? What size are they? What price do you need? Do you drink Assam tea? as barter? All this talk of flour. Doesn't anyone grind their own flour? We grind our flour and make bread by hand knead. We make a very tasty sourdough Polish bread that is full of different seeds and tasty. Also, we used to add gluten to bread to make a better loaf but have quit using gluten entirely. I forget what got us away from gluten. We usually make rye with molasses and then also the Polish sourdough. Bread is too nice to not make at home, fresh ground. My first grinder I would spend 2 hours grinding by hand for a batch of bread. Then I bought some sheaves and belts at grainger, added a washing machine motor and let electricity do the work. A friend had a nice wood cased electric grinder that was attractive, but when I called Retsel in McCammon, ID, the guy convinced me that ugly but fully cleanable was best, so we use the Retsel - not cheap, but very durable stone grinder. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: fortunately we were able to stop the kaiser from enslaving us, or, oh boy, think how stupid we'd be looking right now wearing those helmets with those points on them while living in a wurst eating servitude! be offended by anyone who might disagree with you. accuse them of trying to enslave you. feign the moral high ground and then kill, kill, kill! I have absolutely no problem claiming the moral high ground over Hitler and Stalin. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Next Mercedes Diesel parts NLA
I seem to remember a couple of years ago reading that Daimler was trying to stop businesses in the EU from selling genuine Merc parts, can't remember the exact details but if they won't let others sell parts and they don't sell parts, then their older mainstream cars will be pretty much worthless. Guess it's all part of the shift from being a maker of fine auto mobiles to being a supplier of plastic junk to feed someones ego. Hendrik who can still get parts On 06/09/13 22:39, MG wrote: Sadder part is that Mercedes, according to Tom Hansen at the Classic center, is no longer going to support or supply parts for a lot of the older cars once the stock on hand runs out. These include the w123, w124, w126 and at that point I forget the rest but there was a long list. The justification is that Mercedes does not consider them as classics as there were too many made. When they set the classic center up they were only thinking of the few more rare cars. Sports models and such. Very sad, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Next Mercedes Diesel parts NLA
On Sep 8, 2013 9:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: . Guess it's all part of the shift from being a maker of fine auto mobiles to being a supplier of plastic junk to feed someones ego. That happened in 1993, when the last 124 badged 300E (not E320) rolled off the line. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
i believe you started by expressing how deeply offensive you found the sentiment that japanese civilians ought not have been killed in large number by nuclear attack. hitler was already dead and your country undertook this in league with stalin. so what does talk of hitler and stalin have to do with this? is it just a matter of you liking to spout cliches to justify anything or are you genuinely this confused? and you fail to answer my question as to whether you seriously feel you'd have been enslaved today but for the nuking of japanese civilians? do you fear they'd force feed you sushi and would you not like it if they did? i'm going to sleep. should ali baba come enslave me overnight and i not be heard from again, please accept my apologies for doubting your wisdom and accept that i concede to your correct position On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: fortunately we were able to stop the kaiser from enslaving us, or, oh boy, think how stupid we'd be looking right now wearing those helmets with those points on them while living in a wurst eating servitude! be offended by anyone who might disagree with you. accuse them of trying to enslave you. feign the moral high ground and then kill, kill, kill! I have absolutely no problem claiming the moral high ground over Hitler and Stalin. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
