[MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel
1983 Mercedes Diesel It is a MECHANICS SPECIAL and does not run!!! here is the 'story.' We bought it for resell, drove it a week, parked it and it never started back up. Been told it is injector heaters etc. Im no mechanic and we cant find someone to fix it http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/738320987.html Is that a W116? $2200 is a lot for a dead car... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
I don't know if the compressor took a dump or if the clutch went bad or what. I thought I needed to check the RPM sensor, and tried to pull it out and ruined it in the process. So I just ordered a rebuilt compressor from Rusty... Luther Peter Frederick wrote: If the old compressor died and left any crud in the system (looks like aluminum paint, usually) or gray residue, you need to install a filter in the suction line to the compressor, This will catch all the crud you don't get out (and there will be plenty in there no matter how much you flush, these are all parallel flow systems and you cannot positively flush either condenser or evaporator) and prevent instant damage to the new compressor. The other alternative, of course, is to replace all hoses, dryer, and both condenser and evaporator with new ones. Fat chance Peter On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Luther wrote: The compressor is from Rusty, complete with the RPM sensor and harness. Flushing is easy. Buy a flush kit which consists of a 1qt aluminum pressure canister, hose, and spray gun. Fill the canister with a/c flush solvent, hook up shop air to the canister, and spray the flush through the system. Then remove the canister and blow DRY shop air (nitrogen is preferred) through the system. Then Evac the system to 30hg for at least 1 hour. I did see some black and neon green (dye color) crap flowing from both my condenser and evaporator. Hopefully this will help the compressor last longer and run more efficiently. Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So did you buy a compressor off Rusty? How did you go about flushing? Luther wrote: Working on the SDL here... The compressor is out and the condenser evaporator are flushed. So I begin to put things back together and look for o-rings associated with the drier. None are found. Ugh, it's times like this that I dislike driving a German autowhen I have to wait a day or more because the local parts house does not stock this size of XX (insert favorite part here, o-ring for now). Grrr. Rusty, are the driers suppose to have new o-rings just like the compressors? Luther, frustrated with no a/c ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Are You an Obama Fan]
Ummnh sorry, not funny. Guess it is so stupid, you can laugh at the stupidity of it but it is not funny in itself. Perhaps someone could point out what exactly is the funny part? Furthermore this has been around since forever in one shape or another and to simply change a few words does not make it funny? However I can see why the republicans are thinking this is funny, because there is nothing fun about McCain. Hendrik Loren Faeth wrote: Part of the definition of humor is an element of truth. Truth hurts! I am still laughing! Broccoli o Bama fan or no, it IS funny! I like Hominy, so I guess I like hominy attacks! Bring on more! That Broc(olli) o Bama picture is hilarious! I will laugh at maclame too. It is so sad that these two are the best that these [poor excuses for] parties have to offer! It is so sad, the only relief is to laugh at them! At 09:01 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack. I hope you're all proud of yourselves.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 107 Driver's Side Kick Panel...
At 8:49 PM -0500 8/13/08, Loren Faeth wrote: Don't have a panel. Need Driver's side 107 trim strips myself! I'll keep an eye out. Need any fender trim? I'm leaving mine off, as the new silver paint looks better without them. :) Just wanted to say Howdy MMM! Long time no posts. Hidy! :) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Are You an Obama Fan]
At 10:01 PM -0400 8/13/08, andrew strasfogel wrote: Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack. I hope you're all proud of yourselves.. Why...yes. Yes, we are. :D -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel
Fmiser wrote: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/738320987.html Is that a W116? $2200 is a lot for a dead car... That's a 126. It's a lot of money, but the guy bought a running car intending to flip it for a profit, and now he can't start it, so he needs to get his money back, regardless of what it's actually worth. There's a dealer about 30 miles from me with a whole lot full of cars that aren't worth what he paid for them, and every time it looks like he might sell one, his wife insists that they get enough money to make a profit on it, and the buyer walks away if he has a brain. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the old compressor died and left any crud in the system (looks like aluminum paint, usually) or gray residue, you need to install a filter in the suction line to the compressor, I've seen those inline filters online lots of places, e.g. http://www.keep-it-kool.com/inlinefilter/filter_main.html I think that's a suboptimal filter location. Putting the filter in the high pressure line allows any crap that's in the evaporator to go straight to the compressor. If the purpose is to protect the compressor, put the filter as close to the compressor inlet as possible. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new web interface at buymbparts?
That is fixed, try again. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new web interface at buymbparts? [typo in subject line corrected] Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like it. What's not to like? It seems functionally equivalent to the old one but is much faster (at least on my machines---XP with Firefox 2.something). Well, for example I selected my vehicle (1983 300D) and clicked through to Suspension - Control Arm, and it showed one part. The old interface (which you can back into via www.buyeuroparts.com) shows four: left and right upper, left and right lower. I thought maybe it was my browser (Safari) but the same in Firefox. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new web interface at buymbparts?
It is now! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new web interface at buymbparts? On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [typo in subject line corrected] Caramba! I thought MuyMBParts was perfect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new web interface at muymbparts?
No Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new web interface at muymbparts? 1984. I could have sworn I got the price from the old interface. But I do suffer from CRS There are also no rear door seals or rear window hatch either. WorldPac carries all of these right? -Rolf Gary Hurst wrote: did you look for it working through all the menus? what year did you use? On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TD rear 1/4 window seal. I could have sworn it was there before. -Rolf Rusty Cullens wrote: What does it not show? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] new web interface at muymbparts? I don't like it. Also it does not show all the parts that are available. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 107 Driver's Side Kick Panel...
I need the black/chrome trim strips for the driver's door and the LF fender. At 04:57 AM 8/14/2008, you wrote: At 8:49 PM -0500 8/13/08, Loren Faeth wrote: Don't have a panel. Need Driver's side 107 trim strips myself! I'll keep an eye out. Need any fender trim? I'm leaving mine off, as the new silver paint looks better without them. :) Just wanted to say Howdy MMM! Long time no posts. Hidy! :) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
I think that's a suboptimal filter location. Putting the filter in the high pressure line allows any crap that's in the evaporator to go straight to the compressor. If the purpose is to protect the compressor, put the filter as close to the compressor inlet as possible. There are both kinds of filters. Consider the ubiquitous engine oil filter: the bulk of the filtration is on oil being dumped back into the pan! My understanding is that the circulating crap's only mildly abrasive, and so long as you pick it up 'soon' it's just fine to get it on the high side. One minor advantage of high-side pickup is that since the crap started with the compressor in the first place it tends to keep it out of the rest of the system, especially the expansion valve. I just didn't have much luck finding one that would fit into the 190D, so I didn't end up using one at all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 107 Driver's Side Kick Panel...
I need the black/chrome trim strips for the driver's door and the LF fender. Have you tried Aurora Auto Wrecking in Seattle? That's where the area SL's seem to go to die. I know they'll ship. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
Autotrader (cox) has nothing to do with ebay, they are somewhat our competition. Read the writing on the wall. The CEO of eBay has made it clear he is moving away from the 'flea market' model that built the brand. He wants to push it upscale, into more of a storefront. What you say about the eBay Motors fees says one thing to me: private sellers get lost, dealers come on in and put your feet on the furniture. Of course are you forgetting that your beloved employer, AutoTrader (itself a pretty darn tidy monopoly) gets a healthy chunk of cash from eBay Motors? Or did that little corporate affair burn out and I missed it? Mac on 8/13/08 22:23, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would think if somebody came up with something that compared to ebay, ebay would go out of business. Loren Faeth wrote: yeah, they only want the creeps selling essentially brand new cars. If I was gonna take a chance buying a car on fleabay, it won't be over $5000 ever. I am really not comfortable paying over $1k on fleabagbay. For more than that I will buy from the owner. Some year I might even buy a car from a dealer, but not likely. Better to use craigslist and the crazedlist crawler. Actually, with all the IT talent on here, we should start flea(no)bay.com and run it our way. Let ebay price their greedy selves out of business. I never trust anyone from the SF area anyway. At 08:28 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Guess you don't sell in-expensive cars on eBay! On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So now they changed their prices on selling cars on ebay. Used to be 40 insertion fee, 50 after it sells. Total 90. Now, you get 4 cars a year free insertion, 125 fee after it sells. WOW, thats a deal I tell you.35 price increase. On the 5th car the insertion fee is 20, then 125 after it sells, 75 price increase. Holy shit. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cast members returning for 30th 'Dallas' reunion
Rich wrote: Didn't one of that dysfunctional crowd drive an old Benz? Sue Ellen or that cute chick, Bobby's whiny wife, an SL? I happen to be a HUGE Dallas fan. In fact, my wife and I watching all of the old seasons on DVD as they come out. We are currently watching the 9th season (dream season). Some of the Mercedes include: JR had a 116 280SEL in the first season, then he switched to a 126. Bobby drove a 107 SL. In season 3 or 4, JR bought Sue Ellen a 123 diesel wagon. That car gets wrecked and she graduates up to a 500SEC. JR's 126 was wrecked, but he still has it. Bobby's wife (Pam) drives a Porsche. I think later on, JR gets rid of the Mercedes and gets Cadillac Allante. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] longevity!!!
Bob R. wrote: Let me know about the all inclusive thing you do. I've been thinking about that for the big 30 in a year and a half. We went to Club Med in Florida last year. It was GREAT. I would highly recommend Club Med. We will probably go with Club Med this time, but in a different country. We went to Club Med Sandpiper. EVERYTHING was included. The only thing we had to pay for a round of golf off of the resort. All meals, all drinks, all entertainment (and there is a ton of it). The rooms were great, the property was awesome. The staff was friendly. They have adults only pools and adults only restaurants. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama
TE wrote: The Republican fed notion that any Democratic candidate will raise your taxes is absolute crap. Did you actually read my response? I cited to Obama's website. He WILL raise taxes. This is not speculation. He has said he will raise taxes on those earning over $250,000. It is PART OF HIS PLATFORM. I understand what you are saying about republicans labeling every democrat as a tax and spend liberal, BUT, in this case, we don't have to label him that way. He has PROMISED tax increases. READ HIS OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN WEBSITE. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to eBay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
What are the ebay commission/fees in selling a car for $1500, with a starting bid of $99? On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Others have tried failed - eBay just has too much momentum. The day will come when eBay will stumble or the IRS will find a way to force them to issue 1099s, then the ride will get more interesting for eBay. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices,and try to disguise it as a price drop There were rumors that Google was going to get into the auction business. I think there were issues because they get a lot of advertising revenue from eBay. Setting up a site to compete with eBay would face the big problem of how do you get enough visitors to make the site worth bothering with for sellers. There's a certain critical mass you need there and without a big budget for start-up advertising it would be hard to get noticed. Allan Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would think if somebody came up with something that compared to ebay, ebay would go out of business. Yahoo auctions were free, and now they're out of business. (the auctions, not yahoo) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Kaleb Car
Hey Loren, I was merely commenting on the nationality of most of the DC area Mercedes resellers back in the 80s. They were marginally crooked, but usually entertaining and fun to bargain with. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Andrew! From you Your mother had better wash out your mouth with soap for such blasphemy! Are you sure you want to limit it to just one country! ;) At 09:10 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Or an Iranian... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, thats true Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not really. I have got some of my best deals because the seller didnt say much about the car, and I took the chance. They often turn out to be great cars. If the seller is an ordinary, private owner I'd agree. If they are any kind, shape, form, or relation to a dealer you have to go in assuming that every word out of their mouths is a lie. Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Are You an Obama Fan]
Mitch? where have you been all these years? On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:58 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: At 10:01 PM -0400 8/13/08, andrew strasfogel wrote: Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack. I hope you're all proud of yourselves.. Why...yes. Yes, we are. :D -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama
Actually, your state and local tax burden will go up if the Fed. tax burden goes down. Governing ain't cheap. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TE wrote: The Republican fed notion that any Democratic candidate will raise your taxes is absolute crap. Did you actually read my response? I cited to Obama's website. He WILL raise taxes. This is not speculation. He has said he will raise taxes on those earning over $250,000. It is PART OF HIS PLATFORM. I understand what you are saying about republicans labeling every democrat as a tax and spend liberal, BUT, in this case, we don't have to label him that way. He has PROMISED tax increases. READ HIS OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN WEBSITE. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] mbz list past 100k messages
And at least 12 of those relates to MBZ. Reminds me of the old McDonald's saying, Billions served, hundreds eaten Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350/'SD300 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2944 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080814/b3a87432/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cast members returning for 30th 'Dallas' reunion
One of my wife's colleagues was from Argentina or somewhere, when he and his family came to Houston the first month or so they made a weekend trip to South Fork, and was so excited to be able to do that. Apparently Dallas was big there, and he had always wanted to go to South Fork. I think they went back another time or two when family came to visit. He was a Texan at heart! --R Donald Snook wrote: Rich wrote: Didn't one of that dysfunctional crowd drive an old Benz? Sue Ellen or that cute chick, Bobby's whiny wife, an SL? I happen to be a HUGE Dallas fan. In fact, my wife and I watching all of the old seasons on DVD as they come out. We are currently watching the 9th season (dream season). Some of the Mercedes include: JR had a 116 280SEL in the first season, then he switched to a 126. Bobby drove a 107 SL. In season 3 or 4, JR bought Sue Ellen a 123 diesel wagon. That car gets wrecked and she graduates up to a 500SEC. JR's 126 was wrecked, but he still has it. Bobby's wife (Pam) drives a Porsche. I think later on, JR gets rid of the Mercedes and gets Cadillac Allante. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] longevity!!!
I went to a Club Med once in the DR, there were lots of hot Euro women going around with no tops on. Not old German women but youngish French and Italian and others. I was trying to do a windsurfing lesson and my partner was this dancer from somewhere who was only wearing her bikini bottom. I had no problem with my mast and sail. --R Donald Snook wrote: Bob R. wrote: Let me know about the all inclusive thing you do. I've been thinking about that for the big 30 in a year and a half. We went to Club Med in Florida last year. It was GREAT. I would highly recommend Club Med. We will probably go with Club Med this time, but in a different country. We went to Club Med Sandpiper. EVERYTHING was included. The only thing we had to pay for a round of golf off of the resort. All meals, all drinks, all entertainment (and there is a ton of it). The rooms were great, the property was awesome. The staff was friendly. They have adults only pools and adults only restaurants. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Are You an Obama Fan]
andrew strasfogel wrote: Mitch? where have you been all these years? I think M. Mitchell Marmel has mainly been on the vets and SL lists. Mitchell Haley. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Kaleb Car
You are too funny. --R Redghost wrote: It was a fellow of impeccable taste from the land of scams. Mr. Olusola was a right black fellow from Nigeria. Claimed to be a Medical Doctor. I believe he was more a broom pushing janitor. Being from deepest darkest, he must have fled to TX to save his family, since he was a follower of Jeebus, not Moohamdude. Best he had been given a hair trim with a machete in his home nation, and they had aimed lower. clay On 13 Aug 2008, at 20:14, Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Or an Iranian... What was the country of origin of that fellow in Texas who sold the POS SDL to Clay? That brings to mind the memory of a Lebanese fellow (Shiite) who used to be married to a friend of mine. (when she left him, he threatened to kill her whole family from grandparents on down, but that's another story) He said that it was OK to lie to / cheat infidels, because, after all, they were only infidels. Don't ask me why he married one. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Inline A/C crud filters [was: my first a/c RR]
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does the install work exactly? Would you have to find matching fittings so as to put the filter inline between the manifold and what it connects to at the other end from the compressor? or are they a standard size? Is this something Jim's hydraulic hose shop would do? (I.e. take them the manifold and filter and say I want to put this thing in the middle of this line, please install the appropriate filters to make it so.) Please install the appropriate _fittings_, I meant to type. Still wondering about this. I am about to install a new receiver/dryer and pressure switch in my POS 300E and put some of my stash of precious R12 (read that in a Gollum voice) in it---it held vacuum overnight, so I'm willing to risk it. But as long as I have the system open, I wonder if I should put one of those filters in (it can't hurt, and the previous charge must have had _some_ reason to leak out---maybe there is crud from a failed compressor still circulating). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 560 SL battery drain
Yesterday I finally got a chance to tackle the battery discharge problem in Jill's 560 SL. I'd already convinced myself it wasn't an alternator charging prohblem. (I've been putting the car on charge most nights for months now.) I suspected one of the two alarms, or the stereo to be at fault. (Though it could be almost anything, including the clock, radio antenna, or dome light system.) I pulled apart the main power supply terminal under the hood and determined that there was no parasitic load except through the main feed wires to the fuse box. When I disconnected the keyless entry/alarm system and powered up the car it drew some 200 mA once things settled down. That's fairly hefty, over time. When I dug up the fob so I could reconnect the keyless entry/alarm and shut it up I found that it only seems to draw 10-20 mA itself: not so bad. Removing the faceplate of the stereo did nothing to change the draw. I removed the floor panel, but the factory alarm wasn't under there so I couldn't disconnect it. I mis-remembered, it's behind the glove box according to the ETM. (The lamp-out warning module is what's under the floor panel.) I ran out of time to continue chasing that morning, however. Jill also reports that the headlights spontaneously go out sometimes. That's not good, and it keeps her from wanting to drive the car. Combination switch? I've seen that before, though usually only when applying a turn signal. Today I proved it's not the stereo (removed), or the antenna (unplugged). But it's on Fuse 12. If the schematic can be believed that indicates the antenna, trunk light, alarm system, warning module, courtesy lamps, diagnostic socket, hazard signals, or clock. I disconnected the alarm, that's not it. I pulled the dome light timer relay, that's not it either. I checked the visor lights, it doesn't seem to be them. (Current draw when either was opened was the same, 950 mA, and together it was about 1600 mA. That indicates that neither switch was leaking.) I pulled the door switches, no change. It's not the warning module. (Getting to that was fun.) It's not the hazard switch. All that's left is the clock, which is difficult to get to. So I pulled the airbag, steering wheel, and instrument cluster. It's not the clock! WTF? Supposedly I've gone through everything on Fuse 12, yet I've found no culprits. The car still draws 200-350 mA through the fuse. Damn, either somebody added something (cell phone?) or the schematic's wrong, or there's a pinched wire. The next step is to pull the fuse box itself and check the individual wires feeding off of it. That's a drag. So I pulled the fuse block. There are two ring terminals screwed to #12: one a clump of small reds with a red/yellow in it, and another clump of small reds with a red/white in it. The culprit is in the red/white clump, though I ran out of time to chase it further than that. The red/white wire itself goes to the diagnostic socket, and nothing's plugged into it. The car looks a right mess. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inline A/C crud filters [was: my first a/c RR]
can't hurt, and the previous charge must have had _some_ reason to leak out---maybe there is crud from a failed compressor still circulating). Crud doesn't cause leaks. It causes spectacular compressor failure. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inline A/C crud filters [was: my first a/c RR]
receiver/dryer and pressure switch in my POS 300E and put some of my stash of precious R12 (read that in a Gollum voice) in it---it held vacuum overnight, so I'm willing to risk it. This is why I use a test refrigerant rather than my preciou R12. Of course, if the test juice works and doesn't leak out, there's no reason to swap in R12. If it does leak out, then you don't want to put in the R12 anyway. About $8 for a test charge. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR -update
So, my local NAPA store has a good selection of a/c o-rings and the system is now together and the vacuum pump is doing it's duty. So, with a system that has moisture in it (from the flush) how long should I let the vacuum system run? Currently it's at 26hg. Luther Luther wrote: Working on the SDL here... The compressor is out and the condenser evaporator are flushed. So I begin to put things back together and look for o-rings associated with the drier. None are found. Ugh, it's times like this that I dislike driving a German autowhen I have to wait a day or more because the local parts house does not stock this size of XX (insert favorite part here, o-ring for now). Grrr. Rusty, are the driers suppose to have new o-rings just like the compressors? Luther, frustrated with no a/c ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR -update
a system that has moisture in it (from the flush) how long should I let the vacuum system run? Currently it's at 26hg. At that pressure? Forever. Needs to be much closer to 30 for an hour or two, or so I've read. I've pumped them overnight, when it was open for a long time. (Years, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR -update
The pump can do 29hg, so I'd expect at least 28. Luther Jim Cathey wrote: a system that has moisture in it (from the flush) how long should I let the vacuum system run? Currently it's at 26hg. At that pressure? Forever. Needs to be much closer to 30 for an hour or two, or so I've read. I've pumped them overnight, when it was open for a long time. (Years, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
I am going to need to do this .. Flushing What flushing solvent did you use? There is some in a can sold around here at Autozones, and a version of it in a aerosol can. The label clams no residue and fast evaporating. Was it something like that.? The stuff in the aerosol can would keep me from getting a flush kit. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR The compressor is from Rusty, complete with the RPM sensor and harness. Flushing is easy. Buy a flush kit which consists of a 1qt aluminum pressure canister, hose, and spray gun. Fill the canister with a/c flush solvent, hook up shop air to the canister, and spray the flush through the system. Then remove the canister and blow DRY shop air (nitrogen is preferred) through the system. Then Evac the system to 30hg for at least 1 hour. I ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inline A/C crud filters [was: my first a/c RR]
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can't hurt, and the previous charge must have had _some_ reason to leak out---maybe there is crud from a failed compressor still circulating). Crud doesn't cause leaks. It causes spectacular compressor failure. I know, that's what I meant. It's a little bit of a mystery. When I got the car the A/C was empty, but it holds vacuum just fine. I can't see why that would be the case unless the compressor or some other component failed, and repairs were made, but the system was never charged. In which case a filter would be good insurance, right? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL battery drain
When you are done, would you figure out why my dash light/right tail/right front marker light fuse keeps blowing? :) Luther, thinking finding wiring problems is like looking for a needle in a hay stack Jim Cathey wrote: Yesterday I finally got a chance to tackle the battery discharge problem in Jill's 560 SL. I'd already convinced myself it wasn't an alternator charging prohblem. (I've been putting the car on charge most nights for months now.) I suspected one of the two alarms, or the stereo to be at fault. (Though it could be almost anything, including the clock, radio antenna, or dome light system.) I pulled apart the main power supply terminal under the hood and determined that there was no parasitic load except through the main feed wires to the fuse box. When I disconnected the keyless entry/alarm system and powered up the car it drew some 200 mA once things settled down. That's fairly hefty, over time. When I dug up the fob so I could reconnect the keyless entry/alarm and shut it up I found that it only seems to draw 10-20 mA itself: not so bad. Removing the faceplate of the stereo did nothing to change the draw. I removed the floor panel, but the factory alarm wasn't under there so I couldn't disconnect it. I mis-remembered, it's behind the glove box according to the ETM. (The lamp-out warning module is what's under the floor panel.) I ran out of time to continue chasing that morning, however. Jill also reports that the headlights spontaneously go out sometimes. That's not good, and it keeps her from wanting to drive the car. Combination switch? I've seen that before, though usually only when applying a turn signal. Today I proved it's not the stereo (removed), or the antenna (unplugged). But it's on Fuse 12. If the schematic can be believed that indicates the antenna, trunk light, alarm system, warning module, courtesy lamps, diagnostic socket, hazard signals, or clock. I disconnected the alarm, that's not it. I pulled the dome light timer relay, that's not it either. I checked the visor lights, it doesn't seem to be them. (Current draw when either was opened was the same, 950 mA, and together it was about 1600 mA. That indicates that neither switch was leaking.) I pulled the door switches, no change. It's not the warning module. (Getting to that was fun.) It's not the hazard switch. All that's left is the clock, which is difficult to get to. So I pulled the airbag, steering wheel, and instrument cluster. It's not the clock! WTF? Supposedly I've gone through everything on Fuse 12, yet I've found no culprits. The car still draws 200-350 mA through the fuse. Damn, either somebody added something (cell phone?) or the schematic's wrong, or there's a pinched wire. The next step is to pull the fuse box itself and check the individual wires feeding off of it. That's a drag. So I pulled the fuse block. There are two ring terminals screwed to #12: one a clump of small reds with a red/yellow in it, and another clump of small reds with a red/white in it. The culprit is in the red/white clump, though I ran out of time to chase it further than that. The red/white wire itself goes to the diagnostic socket, and nothing's plugged into it. The car looks a right mess. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
I used more than 1 qt of flush. Here is the flush i used: http://www.id-usa.com/product.asp?CID=12PID=41 Here's the flush kit I purchased: http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470LineCode=NTEPartNumber=781020Description=A%2fC+Flush+Kit Luther George Larribeau wrote: I am going to need to do this .. Flushing What flushing solvent did you use? There is some in a can sold around here at Autozones, and a version of it in a aerosol can. The label clams no residue and fast evaporating. Was it something like that.? The stuff in the aerosol can would keep me from getting a flush kit. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR The compressor is from Rusty, complete with the RPM sensor and harness. Flushing is easy. Buy a flush kit which consists of a 1qt aluminum pressure canister, hose, and spray gun. Fill the canister with a/c flush solvent, hook up shop air to the canister, and spray the flush through the system. Then remove the canister and blow DRY shop air (nitrogen is preferred) through the system. Then Evac the system to 30hg for at least 1 hour. I ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Are You an Obama Fan]
--- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Mitch? where have you been all these years? I think M. Mitchell Marmel has mainly been on the vets and SL lists. And Banned. Don't forget Banned. ;) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
Looks to me like you could build a flush kit out of an old fire extinguisher. Anyone game to try? Only trick is does the head have a venturi and mix the liquid and air, or does it blow the liquid through, followed by air or Nitrogen? At 11:45 AM 8/14/2008, you wrote: I used more than 1 qt of flush. Here is the flush i used: http://www.id-usa.com/product.asp?CID=12PID=41 Here's the flush kit I purchased: http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470LineCode=NTEPartNumber=781020Description=A%2fC+Flush+Kit Luther George Larribeau wrote: I am going to need to do this .. Flushing What flushing solvent did you use? There is some in a can sold around here at Autozones, and a version of it in a aerosol can. The label clams no residue and fast evaporating. Was it something like that.? The stuff in the aerosol can would keep me from getting a flush kit. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR The compressor is from Rusty, complete with the RPM sensor and harness. Flushing is easy. Buy a flush kit which consists of a 1qt aluminum pressure canister, hose, and spray gun. Fill the canister with a/c flush solvent, hook up shop air to the canister, and spray the flush through the system. Then remove the canister and blow DRY shop air (nitrogen is preferred) through the system. Then Evac the system to 30hg for at least 1 hour. I ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel
It seems than at Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:29:25 -0400, Mitch wrote: Fmiser wrote: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/738320987.html Is that a W116? $2200 is a lot for a dead car... That's a 126. I have nothing but W123s, so I'm not real sharp on correctly spotting an other chassis. It's a lot of money, but the guy bought a running car intending to flip it for a profit, and now he can't start it, so he needs to get his money back, regardless of what it's actually worth. So either he (she) sells at a loss or it hangs around tying up space in money. It's a loss either way. Or I suppose some clueless mark comes along with more cents than sense. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cast members returning for 30th 'Dallas' reunion
Dallas was popular in England too. My wife and I spent our honeymoon in England in 1980. We visited family friends who owned a beautiful W107. They referred to it as their Sue Ellen car. It had a bumper sticker that read, Who Shot JR? The Dallas contemporary soap called Falcon Crest (I think), also had a few MBZ's. The matriarch had a beautiful black W100. Her son, or grandson or whoever and his wife drove a 123 wagon. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel
Fmiser wrote: Or I suppose some clueless mark comes along with more cents than sense. ...or somebody comes along who knows how to start a diesel. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel
Possible glow plugs, etc? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel Fmiser wrote: Or I suppose some clueless mark comes along with more cents than sense. ...or somebody comes along who knows how to start a diesel. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190DT Ride height
Hi, All. My Puzzle for today is:- What in the front suspension is mainly responsible for ride height? My money is on the springs. That said, I seem to remember Herr Doktor Proffessor Booth saying that MBZ springs don't sag. Ride height as measured from wheel center vertically to wheel arch. Blue car White car LF13 15 7/16' RF 12 13/16 15 1/2 LR 14 3/16 15 1/2 RR 13 1/215 9/16 The Blue car has twice the mileage (204k+) of the white car (140k) The spring perches are the same measurements on both cars. i.e. Not rotted out. All of the rubber bits seem to be equally OK except for the strut mounts which are showing some cracks (both cars) Front sway bar mounts are the same on both. I still think that the springs are tired. Another question. In Rusty's (All Hail Rusty!) list of parts for front springs, there is a caveat that some scoreor other must be observed. Huh? Fred Moir Idiot seeking enlightenment. Lynn MA 300TD Blue 190DT White Bent 190DT Blue Runner. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
ZERO pollution? Ya don';t get something for nothing!! It takes energy of some type to build the system, compress the air, etc!! Even water-generated electricity is not free and is not completely pollutionless! Wilton - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] compressed air car... http://zeropollutionmotors.us/ the videos are quite interesting (link on sidebar of homepage). Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 238K mi, Wulf -1982 Volkswagen Diesel Vanagon, 229K mi, Mama's Mog -1992 Dodge 350 Ram Wagon, Mini -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Ride height
I believe the 201 is similar to the 123 in that the height is adjusted by the spring shim. Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. My Puzzle for today is:- What in the front suspension is mainly responsible for ride height? My money is on the springs. That said, I seem to remember Herr Doktor Proffessor Booth saying that MBZ springs don't sag. Ride height as measured from wheel center vertically to wheel arch. Blue car White car LF13 15 7/16' RF 12 13/16 15 1/2 LR 14 3/16 15 1/2 RR 13 1/2 15 9/16 The Blue car has twice the mileage (204k+) of the white car (140k) The spring perches are the same measurements on both cars. i.e. Not rotted out. All of the rubber bits seem to be equally OK except for the strut mounts which are showing some cracks (both cars) Front sway bar mounts are the same on both. I still think that the springs are tired. Another question. In Rusty's (All Hail Rusty!) list of parts for front springs, there is a caveat that some scoreor other must be observed. Huh? Fred Moir Idiot seeking enlightenment. Lynn MA 300TD Blue 190DT White Bent 190DT Blue Runner. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition
...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
And imagine if they had highly-inflated tires, the thing would generate energy! --R Wilton Strickland wrote: ZERO pollution? Ya don';t get something for nothing!! It takes energy of some type to build the system, compress the air, etc!! Even water-generated electricity is not free and is not completely pollutionless! Wilton - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] compressed air car... http://zeropollutionmotors.us/ the videos are quite interesting (link on sidebar of homepage). Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 238K mi, Wulf -1982 Volkswagen Diesel Vanagon, 229K mi, Mama's Mog -1992 Dodge 350 Ram Wagon, Mini -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Draw your car
One thing he didn;t mention that I find *critical* when attemting to do the Chicken Scratch art such as I do -IMO it's mandatory to have a photo of the subject - or better yet, the real deal - to look at while drawing and painting. At least when I draw/sketch/paint it's necessary - ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:09 AM Subject: [MBZ] Draw your car Here you can learn how to immortalize your ride with paper and graphite: http://www.dueysdrawings.com/how_to_draw_a_car.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition
It's when you shoot the messenger instead of the message, literally to the man. You will notice a lot of this in political discourse when someone on one side (the hearer) disagrees with something one on another side said (the sayer), and starts trashing the sayer as a person, rather than presenting any sort of logical or rational argument against what was said. This usually happens when either 1) what was said was correct and disagreed with strongly-held views and opinions of the hearer, or 2) the hearer is stupid and can't argue rationally or logically, or 3) all of the above. I won't go into my opinions and anecdotal observations on who is more ad hominem in their responses to things said. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama
The article talks about obamas speech before the ACLU - IIRC, the founder was a devout socialist or communist - can;t remember which but they're pretty close IMO. It's odd a group known for supporting the Civil Rights of people would refuse to participate in cases involving the 2nd Amendment - pretty high on the list of Civil Rights. But it makes sense if you consider their roots -- He's becoming known by the company he keeps -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama How does the biggest Socialist in the Senate get so much mainstream support? http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302137342405551 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition
FWIW, Here's what Dictionary.com sez: ad ho·mi·nem  –adjective 1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason. 2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument. Take care, Chuck On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ad hominem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Lotus Omnivore
http://jalopnik.com/400401/the-lotus-omnivore-a-piston-engine-thatll-eat-anything Nothing really new here, DiesOtto / HCCI *but* its a 2 stroke Still anything involving electronics and Jaguar.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
Wilton, Remember TANSTAFFL! Way back there was a sailboat on the Chesapeake Bay with that on it's transom Now sailing does not use any energy except that of its crew and the wind... Although, it does take some kind of energy to brew the beer to keep the crew in line and doing what the skipper says On occasion I must admit, when the wind did not cooperate we did have to employ the iron sail to get back to port! Not sailing these days on the surface of the sun.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: ZERO pollution? Ya don';t get something for nothing!! It takes energy of some type to build the system, compress the air, etc!! Even water- generated electricity is not free and is not completely pollutionless! Wilton - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] compressed air car... http://zeropollutionmotors.us/ the videos are quite interesting (link on sidebar of homepage). Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 238K mi, Wulf -1982 Volkswagen Diesel Vanagon, 229K mi, Mama's Mog -1992 Dodge 350 Ram Wagon, Mini -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition
means with hominy : 0 At 02:01 PM 8/14/2008, you wrote: ...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZERO pollution? Ya don';t get something for nothing!! It takes energy of some type to build the system, compress the air, etc!! Even water-generated electricity is not free and is not completely pollutionless! Zero local pollution, they really mean. The burden of emissions control (or whatever) is shifted upstream to the plant where the electricity is produced, which could be good or bad. The assumption of a lot of groups pushing electric cars, fuel cells, or whatever other alternative to internal combustion seems to be that economies of scale, in a sense, will prevail---the centralized facility can deal with its pollution more effectively and cheaply. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
'Could generate SOME with regenerative braking, but that would be only a small part of what was put into it and still not FREE. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] compressed air car... And imagine if they had highly-inflated tires, the thing would generate energy! --R Wilton Strickland wrote: ZERO pollution? Ya don';t get something for nothing!! It takes energy of some type to build the system, compress the air, etc!! Even water-generated electricity is not free and is not completely pollutionless! Wilton - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] compressed air car... http://zeropollutionmotors.us/ the videos are quite interesting (link on sidebar of homepage). Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 238K mi, Wulf -1982 Volkswagen Diesel Vanagon, 229K mi, Mama's Mog -1992 Dodge 350 Ram Wagon, Mini -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
'But even sailing/wind energy is not completely free, because of the energy/cost of making the sail/system, beer/food for the crew to operate it, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] compressed air car... Wilton, Remember TANSTAFFL! Way back there was a sailboat on the Chesapeake Bay with that on it's transom Now sailing does not use any energy except that of its crew and the wind... Although, it does take some kind of energy to brew the beer to keep the crew in line and doing what the skipper says On occasion I must admit, when the wind did not cooperate we did have to employ the iron sail to get back to port! Not sailing these days on the surface of the sun.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: ZERO pollution? Ya don';t get something for nothing!! It takes energy of some type to build the system, compress the air, etc!! Even water- generated electricity is not free and is not completely pollutionless! Wilton - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] compressed air car... http://zeropollutionmotors.us/ the videos are quite interesting (link on sidebar of homepage). Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 238K mi, Wulf -1982 Volkswagen Diesel Vanagon, 229K mi, Mama's Mog -1992 Dodge 350 Ram Wagon, Mini -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
Yes, I know they mean LOCAL, USER pollution, but too many believe it's really ZERO pollution. Another one is use water for fuel, or burn water. Yea, ya can, if ya expend some energy to separate the H and O, build the system, store, control it, etc., etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] compressed air car... On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZERO pollution? Ya don';t get something for nothing!! It takes energy of some type to build the system, compress the air, etc!! Even water-generated electricity is not free and is not completely pollutionless! Zero local pollution, they really mean. The burden of emissions control (or whatever) is shifted upstream to the plant where the electricity is produced, which could be good or bad. The assumption of a lot of groups pushing electric cars, fuel cells, or whatever other alternative to internal combustion seems to be that economies of scale, in a sense, will prevail---the centralized facility can deal with its pollution more effectively and cheaply. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition
'Used to help my mom MAKE hominy occasionally - really. Wilton - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] definition means with hominy : 0 At 02:01 PM 8/14/2008, you wrote: ...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut0 00307 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Draw your car
There is a free little program that will take an image and convert it to a sketch kind of image, it's pretty cool. --R LarryT wrote: One thing he didn;t mention that I find *critical* when attemting to do the Chicken Scratch art such as I do -IMO it's mandatory to have a photo of the subject - or better yet, the real deal - to look at while drawing and painting. At least when I draw/sketch/paint it's necessary - ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:09 AM Subject: [MBZ] Draw your car Here you can learn how to immortalize your ride with paper and graphite: http://www.dueysdrawings.com/how_to_draw_a_car.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition
Speaking of which, if anyone is ever in Charleston SC there is a little restaurant called The Hominy Grill that has some extremely yummy victuals, and has been lauded by all the big name chefs and magazines, etc. It's in an old barber shop in an old neighborhood, very nice to spend an hour or two in the morning for a mighty tasty brekkie. Have not been there for lunch or supper, but will have to give that a try sometime. --R Loren Faeth wrote: means with hominy : 0 At 02:01 PM 8/14/2008, you wrote: ...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
Wilton Strickland wrote: Yes, I know they mean LOCAL, USER pollution, but too many believe it's really ZERO pollution. Ever since I first saw the phrase zero emissions vehicle, I've mentally substituted remote emissions vehicle. So far, all I've seen wearing the ZEV label are based on energy storage methods, just various ways of getting around having batteries, some better, most worse than a simple pack of batteries. Compressed air strikes me as being much worse than a battery pack. I would expect a hydrogen tank and a fuel cell to be more efficient than a tank of air. If it isn't inherently superior to a VoltsRabbit or a ForkenSwift (Suzuki Swift or Geo Metro with electric forklift motor), forget about it, I'll just build my own EV out of scrapyard parts. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
Rich Thomas wrote: And imagine if they had highly-inflated tires, the thing would generate energy! If you have time, read this discussion on high tire pressures: http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14643 I can remember arguing with my alignment tech when he said my tires were overinflated when I had them at Chrysler recommended 35psi. (I also had 195/60-14 instead of the factory spec 165/80-13) I finally quit arguing, drove home, and blew my tires back up. 35psi, 70,000 miles, even tire wear, maybe a little more wear on the edges than on the center. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lotus Omnivore
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://jalopnik.com/400401/the-lotus-omnivore-a-piston-engine-thatll-eat-anything The engine-that-will-burn-anything-that-can-be-burnt has already been invented... it's called a turbine. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR -update
Until it holds 29 for at least an hour. If it's only 26 either your gauge is off (not impossible), the system has a lot of water in it, or you have a leak (or an undersized pump). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
1-bromo-propane, hexane, and isopropyl alcohol are the solvents I've seen suggested. All reagent grade and dry, of course. Peter On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:32 AM, George Larribeau wrote: I am going to need to do this .. Flushing What flushing solvent did you use? There is some in a can sold around here at Autozones, and a version of it in a aerosol can. The label clams no residue and fast evaporating. Was it something like that.? The stuff in the aerosol can would keep me from getting a flush kit. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR The compressor is from Rusty, complete with the RPM sensor and harness. Flushing is easy. Buy a flush kit which consists of a 1qt aluminum pressure canister, hose, and spray gun. Fill the canister with a/c flush solvent, hook up shop air to the canister, and spray the flush through the system. Then remove the canister and blow DRY shop air (nitrogen is preferred) through the system. Then Evac the system to 30hg for at least 1 hour. I ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
Liquid followed by dry air or nitrogen -- an aerosol will leave more crud behind. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cast members returning for 30th 'Dallas' reunion
The 80's had MUCH better TV than now days. Gary Hurst wrote: he was really pretty low rent. tons of 60 minute B westerns. he was good though in them. looked exactly the same as a young man. i imagine you could find a bunch of them between cheap and free if you run a filography on him. i never was as sci fi fan though. of cheap crappy films, my preference is for westerns and the odd detective film. otherwise i mostly just watch classics. i remember i used to watch dallas with my mom, but i had to quit when bobby came back to life. i used to watch love boat and fantasy island with my mom sometimes too. either i was nicer to my mom than i think or the entertainment options weren't all the fine back in the day. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yea, it was Jim Davis. I just love him. Especially as jock. Speaking of Jim Davis, anybody ever see that early 80's B sci fi movie with him in it about his solar house getting sucked into some sort of vortex? Cant think of the name if it. Boy was that a cheezy movie. Gary Hurst wrote: i liked the old man. i think he drove a 2 door lincoln, like MKV maybe. what was his name? he was an old western B actor, mostly a bad guy. jim davis maybe? i've always been partial to 2 door lincolns as well On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ESS Rich Thomas wrote: Didn't one of that dysfunctional crowd drive an old Benz? Sue Ellen or that cute chick, Bobby's whiny wife, an SL? --R http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080813/ap_en_tv/tv_dallas_reunion;_ylt=Amii5QrrkyNmBWvl3LUzdURxFb8C ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:20 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cast members returning for 30th 'Dallas' reunion
Ok, here we go. JR started out with a 116 450SEL. Then he got a 126, it was sometimes seen as a 380SEL, 500SEL, I have even seen 300SD, all the same color. I believe it was the 126 that got wrecked, but in the wreck scene, it was clearly a 116 that was wrecked. He did get rid of the 126 and got an Alante. In the movies later, I know he had a 140. Sue Ellen started out with the Ford station wagon, then she got the 123 TD for a season I think. Then, the SEC. Bobby, started off with a 450SL, then a 380SL, and a 560SL. Think he got a porshe or something like that later on. One of Sue Ellens boy friends had a black 560SL, which was later in the series. Donald Snook wrote: Rich wrote: Didn't one of that dysfunctional crowd drive an old Benz? Sue Ellen or that cute chick, Bobby's whiny wife, an SL? I happen to be a HUGE Dallas fan. In fact, my wife and I watching all of the old seasons on DVD as they come out. We are currently watching the 9th season (dream season). Some of the Mercedes include: JR had a 116 280SEL in the first season, then he switched to a 126. Bobby drove a 107 SL. In season 3 or 4, JR bought Sue Ellen a 123 diesel wagon. That car gets wrecked and she graduates up to a 500SEC. JR's 126 was wrecked, but he still has it. Bobby's wife (Pam) drives a Porsche. I think later on, JR gets rid of the Mercedes and gets Cadillac Allante. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:20 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to eBay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
same as previously stated andrew strasfogel wrote: What are the ebay commission/fees in selling a car for $1500, with a starting bid of $99? On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Others have tried failed - eBay just has too much momentum. The day will come when eBay will stumble or the IRS will find a way to force them to issue 1099s, then the ride will get more interesting for eBay. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices,and try to disguise it as a price drop There were rumors that Google was going to get into the auction business. I think there were issues because they get a lot of advertising revenue from eBay. Setting up a site to compete with eBay would face the big problem of how do you get enough visitors to make the site worth bothering with for sellers. There's a certain critical mass you need there and without a big budget for start-up advertising it would be hard to get noticed. Allan Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would think if somebody came up with something that compared to ebay, ebay would go out of business. Yahoo auctions were free, and now they're out of business. (the auctions, not yahoo) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.2/1609 - Release Date: 8/13/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:20 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cast members returning for 30th 'Dallas' reunion
Yea, I went to southfork once, it was cool. Rich Thomas wrote: One of my wife's colleagues was from Argentina or somewhere, when he and his family came to Houston the first month or so they made a weekend trip to South Fork, and was so excited to be able to do that. Apparently Dallas was big there, and he had always wanted to go to South Fork. I think they went back another time or two when family came to visit. He was a Texan at heart! --R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inline A/C crud filters [was: my first a/c RR]
Tell me about this test charge again. Where do you get the ingredients. Jim Cathey wrote: receiver/dryer and pressure switch in my POS 300E and put some of my stash of precious R12 (read that in a Gollum voice) in it---it held vacuum overnight, so I'm willing to risk it. This is why I use a test refrigerant rather than my preciou R12. Of course, if the test juice works and doesn't leak out, there's no reason to swap in R12. If it does leak out, then you don't want to put in the R12 anyway. About $8 for a test charge. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1612 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:03 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inline A/C crud filters [was: my first a/c RR]
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Tell me about this test charge again. Where do you get the ingredients. Propane and isobutane, mixed so that the gauges read correctly. I think Jim uses the Coleman stove propane, and butane fuel from another camping stove manufacturer. You want isobutane, not butane. /mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inline A/C crud filters [was: my first a/c RR]
OK, how do you get it from the propane can to the guages and into the car? What is the mix rate jim? Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Tell me about this test charge again. Where do you get the ingredients. Propane and isobutane, mixed so that the gauges read correctly. I think Jim uses the Coleman stove propane, and butane fuel from another camping stove manufacturer. You want isobutane, not butane. /mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1612 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:03 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
'Fi had an apopropriate garage for it here at home, that'd be my next project. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] compressed air car... Wilton Strickland wrote: Yes, I know they mean LOCAL, USER pollution, but too many believe it's really ZERO pollution. Ever since I first saw the phrase zero emissions vehicle, I've mentally substituted remote emissions vehicle. So far, all I've seen wearing the ZEV label are based on energy storage methods, just various ways of getting around having batteries, some better, most worse than a simple pack of batteries. Compressed air strikes me as being much worse than a battery pack. I would expect a hydrogen tank and a fuel cell to be more efficient than a tank of air. If it isn't inherently superior to a VoltsRabbit or a ForkenSwift (Suzuki Swift or Geo Metro with electric forklift motor), forget about it, I'll just build my own EV out of scrapyard parts. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Fi had an apopropriate garage for it here at home, that'd be my next project. I thought you already had a battery powered EV. Or would you like to build a faster one? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lotus Omnivore
Yes, anything flammable that can be delivered to the combustion chamber as a vapor, mist, spray, powder, dust, etc., - i. e., flammable fluid, coal, wood, grain, straw, plastic, etc. Significant increase in power, too, from water injection into a gas turbine, but ya gotta have a lota fuel already going in the engine producing enough heat to instantly turn the water into vapor/steam without putting out the fire. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lotus Omnivore On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://jalopnik.com/400401/the-lotus-omnivore-a-piston-engine-thatll-eat-any thing The engine-that-will-burn-anything-that-can-be-burnt has already been invented... it's called a turbine. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel
Quite possibly along with a weak battery. My 240D doesn't seem to have working glowplugs (at least the light doesn't come on anyway) and it starts fine, a little harder than I'd normally like but all things considered... The way things are going (tire kickers galore) it may get glow plugs before too long. That seems to be the surprising thing that drives folks away. Actually I think I might have the old ones I replaced 4 years ago. I replaced all of 'em but I'm reasonably sure only 2 were bad... -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:34:33 -0400 From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Possible glow plugs, etc? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes Diesel Fmiser wrote: Or I suppose some clueless mark comes along with more cents than sense. ...or somebody comes along who knows how to start a diesel. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] overpriced euro many wagon
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300TD-Euro-Mercedes-300TD-Euro-Wagon-4-Sp-Manual-Tran-Low-Mi-CLEAN_W0QQitemZ260273613424QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
I think the superiority of air power is the quick recharge time. Forkenswift has a horrible recharge rate which as far as I'm concerned relegates it to being a toy. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:16:06 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] compressed air car... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wilton Strickland wrote: Yes, I know they mean LOCAL, USER pollution, but too many believe it's really ZERO pollution. Ever since I first saw the phrase zero emissions vehicle, I've mentally substituted remote emissions vehicle. So far, all I've seen wearing the ZEV label are based on energy storage methods, just various ways of getting around having batteries, some better, most worse than a simple pack of batteries. Compressed air strikes me as being much worse than a battery pack. I would expect a hydrogen tank and a fuel cell to be more efficient than a tank of air. If it isn't inherently superior to a VoltsRabbit or a ForkenSwift (Suzuki Swift or Geo Metro with electric forklift motor), forget about it, I'll just build my own EV out of scrapyard parts. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] compressed air car...
I DO have an EV, 'drove it today - it's even Diesel-charged. Yea, I'm talking 'bout building a road-worthy one - I can do it, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] compressed air car... Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Fi had an apopropriate garage for it here at home, that'd be my next project. I thought you already had a battery powered EV. Or would you like to build a faster one? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
A large classifieds mob http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Home is talking about getting into the online auction business over here. Have to see how that pans out. However ebays attempt to force people to only use paypal and COD has failed over here. Guess the consumer watchdog gave them a stern talking to. Anyway perhaps there are ways of getting around their squeeze on prices, perhaps listing a car as being parts, along the lines of selling a whole car as parts. I could understand if they have a listing fee and then take a percentage of the final sale price, which would be fairer than a set price. Hendrik who don't like the way ebay treats it's customers and would not hesitate to jump ship Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would think if somebody came up with something that compared to ebay, ebay would go out of business. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to eBay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
Yes but if they keep alienating their customers, particularly their core customers, then you breed discontent and people will make the effort to switch. Sort of like MS, I put up with their stuff for years and one day had enough and put a penguin in the box. Or MB and their quality issues, which they are trying to address. As a side note the TV ad for the new C class goes on about how much time and effort they put into testing the 203 and at the end they ask the question why did we put so much effort into the new C class? and the answer they gave was because we are Mercedes-Benz and this is the C class. When I saw it I had to have a bit of a chuckle to myself and thought to myself that that was the wrong answer. Hendrik working from a penguin powered machine Tom Hargrave wrote: Others have tried failed - eBay just has too much momentum. The day will come when eBay will stumble or the IRS will find a way to force them to issue 1099s, then the ride will get more interesting for eBay. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
BTW, Hendrik, are you one of our fine, true/real Ausie brethren, or are you an American ex-patriot. 'Reason I ask: sometimes, you talk about GB (W) just like WE do. Either way, welcome aboard, of course, we'll take all the help we can get. 'Always glad to hear from ya - we love ya and all yer mates. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop A large classifieds mob http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Home is talking about getting into the online auction business over here. Have to see how that pans out. However ebays attempt to force people to only use paypal and COD has failed over here. Guess the consumer watchdog gave them a stern talking to. Anyway perhaps there are ways of getting around their squeeze on prices, perhaps listing a car as being parts, along the lines of selling a whole car as parts. I could understand if they have a listing fee and then take a percentage of the final sale price, which would be fairer than a set price. Hendrik who don't like the way ebay treats it's customers and would not hesitate to jump ship Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would think if somebody came up with something that compared to ebay, ebay would go out of business. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] diesel lincoln
Original Message Subject:1984 Mark VII Lincoln - $5000 (Kansas City) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:18:43 UT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. 1984 Mark VII Lincoln Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-08-14, 9:29AM 1984 Mark VII Lincoln Diesel with extra motor (816) 564-3533 $5000. obo * Location: Kansas City * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/796298070.html - /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/sF2aAJWZyR3csBXau4Wa0VmbN/ - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1612 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:03 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to eBay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
Son and his wife are driving an 08 C300 loaner right now; 'had it here few minutes ago; 'wish I'd taken a look, but didn't. Maybe they'll have coupla days, and I can get a look. Son's having some warranty work (little things) done on his R320CDI just before 50 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] leave it to eBay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop Yes but if they keep alienating their customers, particularly their core customers, then you breed discontent and people will make the effort to switch. Sort of like MS, I put up with their stuff for years and one day had enough and put a penguin in the box. Or MB and their quality issues, which they are trying to address. As a side note the TV ad for the new C class goes on about how much time and effort they put into testing the 203 and at the end they ask the question why did we put so much effort into the new C class? and the answer they gave was because we are Mercedes-Benz and this is the C class. When I saw it I had to have a bit of a chuckle to myself and thought to myself that that was the wrong answer. Hendrik working from a penguin powered machine Tom Hargrave wrote: Others have tried failed - eBay just has too much momentum. The day will come when eBay will stumble or the IRS will find a way to force them to issue 1099s, then the ride will get more interesting for eBay. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel lincoln
How about a Homer .. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/The_Homer_by_Carlos_Bisquertt.jpg GL Dallas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel lincoln
I believe this a BMW engine-like the one someone on this list saw a week or so ago in the 524. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:21 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] diesel lincoln Original Message Subject:1984 Mark VII Lincoln - $5000 (Kansas City) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:18:43 UT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. 1984 Mark VII Lincoln Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-08-14, 9:29AM 1984 Mark VII Lincoln Diesel with extra motor (816) 564-3533 $5000. obo * Location: Kansas City * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/796298070.html - /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/sF2aAJWZyR3csBXau4Wa0VmbN/ - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1612 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:03 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel lincoln
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Original Message Subject: 1984 Mark VII Lincoln - $5000 (Kansas City) Five years ago I could have had all I wanted for about $1500 each. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overpriced euro many wagon
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260273613424 Wow, Haslett, that's less than 40 miles away. I wouldn't go that far to look at a $10,000 S123 though. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel lincoln
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I believe this a BMW engine-like the one someone on this list saw a week or so ago in the 524. Yep, but I don't think you could get the Lincoln version with a five speed. Vixens often had manny tranny though: http://www.vixenrv.com/description.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel lincoln
Hmm-don't know about vixens-at least in cars. What I was referring to was the bimmer 524td diesel sedan. A motor home or a limo with a BMW diesel would be cool. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel lincoln Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I believe this a BMW engine-like the one someone on this list saw a week or so ago in the 524. Yep, but I don't think you could get the Lincoln version with a five speed. Vixens often had manny tranny though: http://www.vixenrv.com/description.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1-bromo-propane, hexane, and isopropyl alcohol are the solvents I've seen suggested. All reagent grade and dry, of course. What about denatured alcohol?? sure does a good job cleaning up brake fluid Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, your state and local tax burden will go up if the Fed. tax burden goes down. Governing ain't cheap. Typically when the federal rate goes down, revenues to the treasury increase. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Are You an Obama Fan]
The vets list limps along. Must therefore be on Banned. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Mitch Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Mitch? where have you been all these years? I think M. Mitchell Marmel has mainly been on the vets and SL lists. And Banned. Don't forget Banned. ;) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition
Why did you write victuals instead of vittles? Are you a closet elitist? On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of which, if anyone is ever in Charleston SC there is a little restaurant called The Hominy Grill that has some extremely yummy victuals, and has been lauded by all the big name chefs and magazines, etc. It's in an old barber shop in an old neighborhood, very nice to spend an hour or two in the morning for a mighty tasty brekkie. Have not been there for lunch or supper, but will have to give that a try sometime. --R Loren Faeth wrote: means with hominy : 0 At 02:01 PM 8/14/2008, you wrote: ...Moronic, stupid, unfunny, ad hominen attack The only other person I've ever seen use the term ad hominem is VanCleef. I still don't know what it means, RLE ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. ( http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Are You an Obama Fan]
He keeps Banned afloat. And you know what floats, don't you? :-) On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:44 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The vets list limps along. Must therefore be on Banned. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Mitch Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Mitch? where have you been all these years? I think M. Mitchell Marmel has mainly been on the vets and SL lists. And Banned. Don't forget Banned. ;) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my first a/c RR
The stuff in the store has nasties in it, including things that eat rubber (like methy ethyl ketone). Not a good plan. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leave it to ebay to screw sellers, raise their prices, and try to disguise it as a price drop
No not an ex pat, ya gotta remember that Ozland is an unofficial state of the US, just 10 years behind and helping out in all the wars you lot start. So in a way your glorious leader is sort of our glorious Fuehrer as well. Hendrik who used to think that GWB was a practical joke the Yankees where playing on the rest of the world and then it dawned on me..the horror Wilton Strickland wrote: BTW, Hendrik, are you one of our fine, true/real Ausie brethren, or are you an American ex-patriot. 'Reason I ask: sometimes, you talk about GB (W) just like WE do. Either way, welcome aboard, of course, we'll take all the help we can get. 'Always glad to hear from ya - we love ya and all yer mates. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
