Re: is this a bug or a site source error?
On 5 Nov 2011 Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 5 Nov 2011, Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: Please try: http://opensource.com/life/11/11/drm-graveyard-brief-history-digital-r ights-management-music (I hope I've copied that out correctly; I can't seem to drag it out of NS.) I get a warning from NetSurf: Error while processing content unencoding: invalid code lengths set Here, using NetSurf r13077, running on RO 6.20, there is no error, and the page is displayed, more or less correctly. However, for reasons not understood, NetSurf decided to re-scan the fonts before loading (NetSurf was not running, when I double-clicked the URL). Here it does the crash with r13124 and RISC OS 4.02. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Search oddity on r13075 (plus at least 1 version prior)
On 24 Oct 2011 Jess Hampshire jesshampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi When I try and search for text on a web page, the dialogue box accepts the first letter and then disappears are searches for just that letter. Does anyone else have this issue? (Iyonix on both 5.16 and 5.17) [snip] Not here with r13075 and RISC OS 5.16. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Search oddity on r13075 (plus at least 1 version prior)
On 24 Oct 2011 John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: In article f499472752.jess@itworkshop.invalid, Jess Hampshire jesshampsh...@gmail.com wrote: When I try and search for text on a web page, the dialogue box accepts the first letter and then disappears are searches for just that letter. That happens here with r13078 and RISC OS 5.16. Possible hint (or possibly displaying my ignorance as usual). All the test builds between 13071 and 13078 seem to be Amiga-specific, so I haven't downloaded them. However, 13077 says Disable Sprite support - DataTypes can't handle these, so could that be fouling something up for RISC OS? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Search oddity on r13075 (plus at least 1 version prior)
On 24 Oct 2011 John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: In article 498c4e2752.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: However, 13077 says Disable Sprite support - DataTypes can't handle these, so could that be fouling something up for RISC OS? It actually says: Disable Sprite support - DataTypes can handle these. which is rather different! Sprites still load. Senile moment; sorry :-( With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: puzzling email (getting OT)
On 20 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: [snip] It's a long time since I used Pluto, but my recollection is that it doesn't treat HTML attachments any differently to any other type of attachment: You double click on it, a temporary copy is saved and that's filer_run. It doesn't parse the HTML in any way to see if any other attached files are needed by it, so they aren't saved alongside it - and therefore, as you say, the images references aren't rewritten. The bottom line, for users of Pluto, is that if you want to see attached images displayed in the HTML, you'll need to save and manually edit. (Remote images should be fine, of course). Vince, I should be glad of further clarification. My understanding is that MessengerPro doesn't behave significantly differently from Pluto when it comes to handling HTML, but maybe I'm out of date because MessengerPro has been subject to further development whereas Pluto hasn't. I see that you use the former and should be interested to learn if that too is subject to the same problems the affect Pluto, please. It may well be crunch time for me entailing a reluctant swap to MessengerPro. MPro show HTML e-mails as an attempt to render the HTML in the body of the message (usually quite a bit of a mess), with the HTML as an attachment. You can then click on the attachment to load it into a browser. It's a long time since I used Pluto, so I can't remember if it does that; I do remember control-G to load the HTML into the message window, and if MPro can do that, I haven't found out how. One thing that MPro does, and I don't think Pluto does, is that if you reply to or froward an HTML message, no matter if there are graphics as attachments as well as the HTML, the resulting message is received on the Dark Side as a standard HTML message. I haven't been able to check this myself, but I've never had the usual Windows-users' whinge that they can't read the message, as one gets when one replies bottom-posted :-) Anyway this is getting off-topic here; should it be continued on the MPro list? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: puzzling email (getting OT)
On 20 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: [snip] Anyway this is getting off-topic here; should it be continued on the MPro list? Not really, Peter. Well, not yet anyway! For a start I don't use MessengerPro. I suspected I would get a response similar to yours. The problem is that I frequently get messages that are treated by Pluto as HTML attachments, plus graphics files also as attachments. Most of these are dross and don't concern me too much, they just don't matter, but some are commercially important and I should very much like to see them rendered correctly when loaded into NetSurf, so it is functionally a cross application problem, as well as a cross platform problem. I got into a real tangle with a business person. Neither of us could read/render correctly each others HTML files, sent to and from each other via email, cross platform, and it mattered. The situation was extremely frustrating and was never resolved. Tempers were starting to get a bit frayed. Yes, as in the bit that is snipped, MPro seems to be able to reply to or forward HTML messages in a way that Windows users can read. It sounds as if this may be the deciding point. Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem with Save page location as text.
On 11 Oct 2011 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: On 11 Oct, Dr Peter Young wrote in message b9efa72052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk: On 11 Oct 2011 cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: ... and further tests show that other apps are happy saving to an even greater depth than I tried with Netsurf, so the problem appears to be Netsurf related. Well identified; thanks. Ick. If I've understood the code correctly, I /think/ r13037 should sort things. Let me know if it doesn't. Yes, that's done it. Many thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Problem with Save page location as text.
This has become entirely predictable over the last few weeks, and has just happened to me three times running. I haven't yet raised a bug report, as by the nature of the problem there is no logfile to submit. If I try twice in the same NetSurf session to do a save page location as text, on the second attempt as soon as I slide the pointer off the arrow in the text sub-menu, NetSurf just vanishes in an invisible puff of smoke. Because it hasn't shut down properly, there's nothing relevant in the logfile. Should I just submit a logfile anyway? This is on RISC OS 5.16, and currently with test build r13031. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem with Save page location as text.
On 11 Oct 2011 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: On 11 Oct, Dr Peter Young wrote in message 9433842052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk: This has become entirely predictable over the last few weeks, and has just happened to me three times running. I haven't yet raised a bug report, as by the nature of the problem there is no logfile to submit. If I try twice in the same NetSurf session to do a save page location as text, on the second attempt as soon as I slide the pointer off the arrow in the text sub-menu, NetSurf just vanishes in an invisible puff of smoke. Because it hasn't shut down properly, there's nothing relevant in the logfile. Hmm. It doesn't here. If you load NetSurf, go to a page, try that action twice, does it do it? Or do you need to have been browsing around first? Just re-run NetSurf with my home page www.bbc.co.uk and have tried two saves of page location before doing anything else, and NetSurf vanished again. Should I just submit a logfile anyway? Sorry, should have said bug report, and will do that. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem with Save page location as text.
On 11 Oct 2011 cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: In article 9c238b2052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Just re-run NetSurf with my home page www.bbc.co.uk and have tried two saves of page location before doing anything else, and NetSurf vanished again. I have tried and failed to reproduce this using this and other site. I am on r13025 and RISC OS 5.16 (Iyonix). See my reply to Steve. It seems as if it's not NetSurf's fault after all. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem with Save page location as text.
On 11 Oct 2011 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: On 11 Oct, Dr Peter Young wrote in message 9c238b2052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk: On 11 Oct 2011 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: Hmm. It doesn't here. If you load NetSurf, go to a page, try that action twice, does it do it? Or do you need to have been browsing around first? Just re-run NetSurf with my home page www.bbc.co.uk and have tried two saves of page location before doing anything else, and NetSurf vanished again. It works fine here, for some reason. Final straw clutch: where on the page are you clicking Menu, and does that make any difference? Doesn't seem to, but of course I can't try all the possibilities. Should I just submit a logfile anyway? Sorry, should have said bug report, and will do that. OK, thanks; I'll look at the logfile. Sorry, perpetuated typo of mine. There isn't a logfile. IIRC, this (or a similar problem) has been reported before, and I couldn't reproduce it then either. And Chris has reported this too. Aha! Just had a rush of blood to the brain cell: I've been doing the saves in today's directory of Transient, which is fairly deep in the directory hierarchy. I've tried now saving to a temporary directory in the root, and can save as many times as I like. As NetSurf obviously isn't at fault here, is it Transient or the filer that is causing the problem? In any case, the bug report can be closed, I think. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem with Save page location as text.
On 11 Oct 2011 cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: In article 47289a2052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I've been doing the saves in today's directory of Transient, which is fairly deep in the directory hierarchy. I've tried now saving to a temporary directory in the root, and can save as many times as I like. I actually did all the saving into a few dirs of Transient as well, when all was fine. However, the path would have been fairly short - e.g. ADFS::Dorset1.$.Transient.Default.110919 Now, mine is ADFS::HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!Scrap.ScrapDirs.ID4017 6b01.Transient.Default.2011/10/11 which is where Transient put it by default, so it's presumably something in the filer rather than Transient. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem with Save page location as text.
On 11 Oct 2011 cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: In article 47289a2052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I've been doing the saves in today's directory of Transient, which is fairly deep in the directory hierarchy. I've tried now saving to a temporary directory in the root, and can save as many times as I like. As NetSurf obviously isn't at fault here, is it Transient or the filer that is causing the problem? In any case, the bug report can be closed, I think. I guess the test is to continually add a dir recursively inside your temporary directory, and see at what point the save fails - then try a save from a different app. It could still be a problem in NetSurf when it has a long filepath to deal with. The other test is to use short and long names for the directories to see if it is simply the length of path, or the depth of the path. I'm glad you've done that experiment, as I'm constitutionally lazy. Actually I have just tried a test and Netsurf does go into a black hole when the path is long. It does not need to be the same save. Eg save the location text into a deep directory. Goes ok. Open another save dialogue, e.g. save full page - NS exits immediately the save as dialogue opens. There may be a problem with memory buffering for the file names. Interesting, but going beyond my knowledge, I'm afraid. One for the developers, if it may in fact be a NetSurf bug? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem with Save page location as text.
On 11 Oct 2011 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: On 11 Oct, Dr Peter Young wrote in message b9efa72052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk: On 11 Oct 2011 cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: ... and further tests show that other apps are happy saving to an even greater depth than I tried with Netsurf, so the problem appears to be Netsurf related. Well identified; thanks. Ick. If I've understood the code correctly, I /think/ r13037 should sort things. Let me know if it doesn't. That build doesn't seem to have come though the system yet, but I'll look again in the morning. Thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: r12975 NetSurf failure -serious error
On 7 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: Accessing the testbuilds page gives a serious error and NetSurf then quits. Not here, with the same build and RISC OS 5.16 With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Loading local copy of Builds page
On 5 Oct 2011 John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: In article 521ce149bcjoh...@ukgateway.net, John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: r12925 loads and displays a local copy of the NetSurf builds page which I download for parsing for the latest version number for use in a scripted download process. That was fixed, but now, with r12948, local files don't load at all, giving the error: Error 404 while fetching file file:///ADFS Presumably Vince's 'make nsurl__create_from_section correctly escape characters as per RFC3986' didn't work as intended. Confirmed here. Have you raised a bug report, or will I do that? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Base stylesheet failed to load. Was: Loading local copy of Builds page
On 5 Oct 2011 John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: In article 521d4e037ajoh...@ukgateway.net, John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: now, with r12948, local files don't load at all Fixed - thanks. Yes, but with the newest build (129530 I get base stylesheet failed to load with local or on-line sites :-( I have the logfile, and can do a bug report if needed. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Base stylesheet failed to load. Was: Loading local copy of Builds page
On 5 Oct 2011 David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: In message 64b2641d52.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 5 Oct 2011 John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: In article 521d4e037ajoh...@ukgateway.net, John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: now, with r12948, local files don't load at all Fixed - thanks. Yes, but with the newest build (129530 I get base stylesheet failed to load with local or on-line sites :-( Fixed in r12956. So it is! I don't think I have ever seen such a flurry of new test builds. many thanks once again to the excellent developers. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
On 18 Sep 2011 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message 13163753777908975@ukmrpl003 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Dave No idea why? It all works fine now, but these things always change. I used to bank with Lloyds and it was fine with NS. Then had to change banks then found bos abit limited with our browsers. But it's the same situation with most banks and our browsers without JS. Barclays works fine with NetSurf. I always use a very recent version, and I do all my on line banking with NS. Is this with the little keypad thingy that Barclays sent to the late S(WMBO)+(WILAC), and which we never used? HSBC have just started using these, and even before then their on-line banking stopped working with RISC OS NetSurf; I haven't yet tried it with the keypad. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
On 19 Sep 2011 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message a3cf1d1552.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 18 Sep 2011 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message 13163753777908975@ukmrpl003 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Dave No idea why? It all works fine now, but these things always change. I used to bank with Lloyds and it was fine with NS. Then had to change banks then found bos abit limited with our browsers. But it's the same situation with most banks and our browsers without JS. Barclays works fine with NetSurf. I always use a very recent version, and I do all my on line banking with NS. Is this with the little keypad thingy that Barclays sent to the late S(WMBO)+(WILAC), and which we never used? HSBC have just started using these, and even before then their on-line banking stopped working with RISC OS NetSurf; I haven't yet tried it with the keypad. Yes. All the keypad does is generate numbers, which appear on its display. All you do is copy the numbers from the display to NetSurf's writable icons. Works a treat. There is no electrical interface between the PINsentry and the computer. PINsentry has a keyboard (through which all its input goes) and a display (from which the user copies all PINsentry's output). Thanks for the technical info. (Getting back on topic) Does this mean, then, that the HSBC site is working again with NetSurf? If so, I'll be glad to have one less use for Windows. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: google custom search using Netsurf v2.7
On 29 Aug 2011 Michael Bell mich...@beaverbell.co.uk wrote:
In message 520a42849bt...@netsurf-browser.org
Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
In article
5b13461198a73e4181c24862591b2b7776b...@ch1prd0102mb121.prod.exchangel
abs.com,
Mr Robin Lawrence lawre...@uqconnect.net wrote:
Hi there I haven't used my Iyonix for a while and today I tried to use
Netsurf v2.7 with google custom search and I got the message about
Java.. I looked at google and it said that this service was
depreciated but will still have limited access.
The version of google search used from the NetSurf homepage supplied with
that version of NetSurf does not work.
Either use a test build:
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/riscos/testbuilds
Or copy the homepage from the test build over the one in your NetSurf 2.7
installation. It is located in the !NetSurf.Docs.welcome directory.
Netsurf may not have Java but it can be a lot quicker to search in
Java_Script_!
It doesn't have Java, either, but JavaScript is the main missing bit.
However, as for Michael, NetSurf works a lot quicker for me than
Windows Firefox, if JavaScript isn't involved. Many thanks to all the
developers.
With best wishes,
Peter.
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Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ ____ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
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Re: Infinite hourglass when dragging an internal vertical scroll bar
On 25 Aug 2011 dave higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: Quoting Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org: In article 7e5cf80752.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com, Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: I've just raised bug report 3397644. On the BBC News and ROOL web sites, some pages had an internal vertical scroll bar. In each case, when I dragged the bar, NS put up an hourglass that didn't go away in any reasonable time. I had to stop NS with Alt-Break. r12663, Iyonix, 512 MiB. Is it fixed in the latest build? If not, please provide URLs. I won't be able to check that out until I'm back home tonight, but here's a URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14610722 Just tried that here with r12666 (RISC OS 5.16) and it seems to work, though the movement of the sub-window is rather jerky. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Netsurf won't get into the Woman's hour site
On 23 Aug 2011 Michael Bell mich...@beaverbell.co.uk wrote: I am using NetSurf 2.7 - Is this the latest? It won't get into any of the Woman's hour sites, it downloads forever. It seems to behave normally on other sites. Michael Bell This has been so for at least a year; I can't help by suggesting a work-round. I have vague memory that I submitted a bug report. Best wishes, Peter. PS I originally had to use webmail to reply to this, and it sent the reply straight to Michael; sorry, Michael! -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: No more Google for us
On 18 Aug 2011 Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: In article b5ddcb0452.pitt...@iyonix.home, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: In message 0db4c80452.acl...@tiscali.co.uk george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: In message c6ce2f69aae681feffec6e28893e659dea4d0606@localhost Mike Hobbs mike.ho...@antplc.com wrote: Well, thats it then... Google requires javascript !! Seems to work OK still under NetSurf r12638 here; I can open the Google home page, and navigate to the sites displayed thereon, just as before. What am I not understanding? That some of us are using old versions of NetSurf. The issue has been fixed. Unless you log in to iGoogle and then google.co.uk in NetSurf is 'blank' in NetSurf r12640. :-( What's the problem? With NetSurf r12640 (RISC OS 5.16) I've just gone to http://www.google.co.uk/ which has rendered perfectly. Am I doing something wrong? :-) Mind you, I don't use Google as my home page; I use www.bbc.co.uk is this significant? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf and Unicode fonts.
On 2 Aug 2011 John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: In article 7c3a80fc51.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I'll contact you off-list (I think this subject isn't of general interest here) when I've done some more struggling, but that may not be real soon now. Too much else to do. Perhaps when you do sort it you could summarise here - for the benefit of future Googlers or archive-searchers if nothing else! Problem now solved, with many thanks to Tony's off-list help. It seems that there was something wrong with my original Cyberbit font, as converting the one from the URL given by Tony now gives me Unicode fonts in NetSurf in both RISC OS 5.16 and in VRPC with RISC OS 4.02. It's odd that 5.16 liked the original font, but 4.02 didn't, though, but there's yet another thing that I just don't understand. Many thanks to all, and to Tony in particular. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf and Unicode fonts.
On 2 Aug 2011 Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 2 Aug 2011, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: [snip] Curiouser and curiouser! I've downloaded that Cyberbit, and have converted it. I get the same size as I had before for the extracted font (22,373,954 bytes) different from Tony's. This is with TTF2f 0.03 (15 August 2005); is there a more recent version, I wonder? Yes, 0.04 (05-Mar-2011) http://jmb.drobe.co.uk/ttf2f-004.zip Thanks, Tony, but I'm still struggling. I'll contact you off-list (I think this subject isn't of general interest here) when I've done some more struggling, but that may not be real soon now. Too much else to do. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
NetSurf and Unicode fonts.
I don't know whether this is a problem with NetSurf, RISC OS 4 or with VRPC; any advice from you wise people would be appreciated. On this Iyonix I have two Unicode fonts, the usual Cyberbit and an Amharic font called Abyssinica. As expected, these behave perfectly, and I can see a great may exotic characters, as few of which I can actually understand. Following the posting on The Iconbar about getting Unicode fonts working on RISC OS 4.** (1) I tried to get this working on RISC OS 4.02 on VRPC SE on a Windows XP SP3 laptop. The advice on the Iconbar posting needs a bit of tweaking for 4.02, but I seemed to be initially successful. However, when NetSurf ran and looked at the new fonts, it fell over when it came to Cyberbit, saying The Unicode font manager has failed to initialise, or words to that effect; as it failed to run fully there is no logfile. I then took Cyberbit out of Resources.Fonts, and ran NetSurf again. This time it ran fully, and I was able to view pages in Amharic with the Abyssinica font. Any idea why this NetSurf doesn't like Cyberbit? Is it a memory problem? (Cyberbit weighs in at, IIRC, 21M). It's not a very big deal for me; when I have the Windows machine running I tend to use Windows Firefox, as it's a great deal faster than NetSurf on VRPC; on the Iyonix, NetSurf is a great deal quicker than Windows Firefox, so I tend to go with horses for courses. However, as I'm always curious about how things work, in a very non-technical way, I wonder if there's an easy explanation, and also wonder if I should put in a bug report, if it is indeed a NetSurf problem. (1) http://www.iconbar.com/articles/Getting_Unicode_Working_With_RISC_ OS_4_and_6/index1267.html TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: peculiar F3 crash saving an Archive web page
On 27 May 2011 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: this crash is repeatable; i'm mystified: www.archivemag.co.uk, click on the URLs link in the left-hand menu, it loads, mouse over the main frame, F3 to save it -- Netsurf immediately quits leaving hourglass running. reload Netsurf, same sequence repeats. this is shortly after a reboot. a few minutes ago it crashed from the same F3 but froze the machine, hence the reboot. from the same menu, the Booklets or Prices frames save with no problem. curiouser, menu PageSave does the job fine, whereas F3 crashes. RiscPC with OS 4.39, Netsurf r12436. FWIW it works as it should do here; r12443 and RISC OS 5.16. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: aggravating pane
On 29 Mar 2011 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: Steve Fryatt wrote on 29 Mar: the Hotlist, i note, can be dragged wider, though it has no horizontal scrollbar. It does now: that was the point of the most recent fix, because the problem that affected certificates could also affect the other tree windows in more extreme cases (if the text line was wider than your monitor). has horiz-scrollbar been added to Hotlist since r12139 (March 26) which i'm using at the moment? Hotlist here does not have one and doesn't need one, since window-resize button at bottom right does the drag-wide job. (but then Hotlist isn't afflicted with the fixed-size pane that causes the pain.) That scroll-bar appears here in r12142 (28 March). With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
HSBC
Just to report that the HSBC on-line baking site appears not to work with NetSurf since it changed yesterday. Not a NetSurf bug, merely it looks as if it's stuffed with JavaScript. What a pain! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Problem on test build page.
On 22 Mar 2011 Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 04:44:09PM +, Dr Peter Young wrote: Internal Server Error Could you please let us know which URL is causing this error, and whether or not it still does? Yes, it still does. One example is http://source.netsurf-browser.org/?rev=12120view=rev but any of the similar links from the test-builds page does the same. This is with RISC OS NetSurf r12104. I haven't tried with Windows Firefox, but am just going out for the rest of the day; I'll try Windows in the evening. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Problem on test build page.
When I visit the test build page, I usually click on the links from the latest build numbers, to check which are applicable to the RISC OS versions (the rest of the details are incomprehensible to me). Since this morning, I get an error message, saying: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. I don't know how to contact the server administrator, so I'm mentioning this here. Thanks in advance, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Bug Out of date
On 8 Mar 2011 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: On Tue, March 8, 2011 3:32 pm, Daniel Silverstone wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 03:28:35PM +, Dr Peter Young wrote: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=464312aid=3201428g roup_id=51719 Yes, does exactly what druck describes here; r11927 and RISC OS 5.16. Gobbles up the memory, too. This bug is not reproducable on Linux/GTK and appears to be related to frames. Unfortunately it'll need to wait for one of the RISC OS enabled developers to have a gander. Unfortunately, despite following the instructions to the letter, this RISC OS enabled developer couldn't reproduce the problem on 5.16 either. A log file from an affected copy of NetSurf might help (although that's not a promise that anything will get fixed soon: it depends on what's wrong and what the fix entails). Don't post it to this list, though... ;-) Tried to repeat it here, but it behaved this time, in spite of using large amounts of memory. I'll keep the logfile, though, in case it's of interest. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf at Wakefield Show 2011
On 28 Feb 2011 george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: In message 17f1bfac51.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 26 Feb 2011, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: [snip] Finally, I'm not sure it's been mentioned officially anywhere, so I'll say it here: The RISC OS front end is now being actively maintained again. :) For which, we are all very grateful to Steve Fryatt. Thanks indeed! Amen to that: splendid news! Thirded, and it's good to see the rate of development going at such a pace. The last two bugs I submitted were fixed within a day; many thanks, folks! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge passwords
On 29 Jan 2011 Harriet Bazley harriet.baz...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Wonderful... you can't use Netsurf to reset the Sourceforge passwords to access the Netsurf bug tracker :-( (Unless I'm missing something.) https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php No you're not missing anything; I had to go to Windows to do this. The page seems to be stuffed with JavaScript. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf RISC OS archive files
On 28 Jan 2011 John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote: In article 519ca0651ft...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Sounds like something on your system gives them different RISC OS filetypes when they're downloaded. Do you use different apps to download NetSurf? No, but I do use a home-made auto-downloader which uses CURL and generally messes about with stuff, checking for new versions etcetera. So I guess that's what's causing it. I shall look assiduously at that and see what I've done wrong. FWIW (not worth much, probably) I also have a home-made downloader using wget, which also does backups of previous versions. One line in this sets the type of the downloaded file to Archive. Would this line be useful in your setup? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Bug tracker page unusable!
This is with RISC OS 5.16 and NetSurf r10951. I've just had a crash on the HSBC site; I went to the bug reporting site to report this, but have found it to be unusable. The Add new point on the site is overlapped by Bugs, and I haven't found a way of being able to click on it. Is there any direct URL for the Add new option? TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Bug tracker page unusable!
On 1 Dec 2010 Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 1 Dec 2010 Dr Peter Young wrote: This is with RISC OS 5.16 and NetSurf r10951. I've just had a crash on the HSBC site; I went to the bug reporting site to report this, but have found it to be unusable. The Add new point on the site is overlapped by Bugs, and I haven't found a way of being able to click on it. Is there any direct URL for the Add new option? Yes - just add func=add to the URL at the top of the bugs page and hit Return. Thanks, that did it. Crash reported. Alternatively feel around with the pointer until you can see the argument ?func=add at the bottom of the window, then click Select. Couldn't make that one work! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Global History oddity.
This is with RISC OS 5.16 flashed, and NetSurf r10900. I'm getting used to the new much smaller font size in the Global History and Hotlist windows (gets a lot more text in), but I have found that the first time in a session that I open the Global History the Three weeks ago directory is open, which I don't want. Is this an oddity here, or a feature or a bug? If it's the last, I'll do a bug report when I get a round tuit. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: A what is
On 29 Sep 2010 Dr Alan Leighton alan.leight...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] What are we doing on this line? ^ List? Getting a drucking shortly, I think! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hang resulting in 11MB logfile.
On 7 Sep 2010 Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I've just filed this bug report: [quote] This is with RISC OS 5.16 and NetSurf test build r10731. Page http://www.rickstein.com/Steins-Fish-and-Chips.html loaded; hourglass activity, sometimes the main animated one and sometimes the NetSurf small one, seems to be continuous. Click on Sample eat-in menu. Nothing happens apart from more hourglass, till I get impatient. Can't now quit NetSurf except with alt-break. [unquote] The 11MB logfile zips to 377K, which is too big to upload. I think this must be due to bad site design (it works OK with Windows Firefox), but is it worth sending this logfile to one of the developers? Now fixed. Many thanks, John-Mark. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hang resulting in 11MB logfile.
On 8 Sep 2010 Brian Howlett brian.gro...@brianhowlett.me.uk wrote: On 7 Sep, Dr Peter Young wrote: Page http://www.rickstein.com/Steins-Fish-and-Chips.html Something on that page is fooling NS (r10731 here) in to thinking it is loading several million out of 25 objects. It also steals every last byte of RAM. Thanks; I thought it must be something odd about the page, and it's good to have this confirmed by someone who understands these things. I imagine that the bug report and logfile are irrelevant, then. I hadn't noticed the vanishing memory, but that indeed does happen. However, if you press the stop button it will stop trying to load the page, So it does! and you can then shift-click on the sample menu (PDF) to download it. So you can! Thanks. However, Windows Firefox makes it easier, alas. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Hang resulting in 11MB logfile.
I've just filed this bug report: [quote] This is with RISC OS 5.16 and NetSurf test build r10731. Page http://www.rickstein.com/Steins-Fish-and-Chips.html loaded; hourglass activity, sometimes the main animated one and sometimes the NetSurf small one, seems to be continuous. Click on Sample eat-in menu. Nothing happens apart from more hourglass, till I get impatient. Can't now quit NetSurf except with alt-break. [unquote] The 11MB logfile zips to 377K, which is too big to upload. I think this must be due to bad site design (it works OK with Windows Firefox), but is it worth sending this logfile to one of the developers? TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Scroll wheel scrolling hangs?
On 19 Jul 2010 Grahame Parish maillist.par...@millers-way.net wrote: I'm running r10651 on RO 5.16 (flashed) with !HID 0.36. I've noticed recently that if I use the scroll bar to move up and down a page all is OK, but if I try the scroll wheel (which is my normal method) I get a hang of 6 or 7 seconds each time before the page moves. During this time the Organiser clock stops. The worst case was around 30 seconds, but I've not seen it that long since. Can anyone else replicate this? Yes, same OS, build 10654 but without !HID (I could never get my head around this). Slightly different here, though; the first page visited gives only a slight delay, less than a second. With subsequent pages the delay gets worse, up to the 30 seconds or so, with Organizer's clock hanging, on about the fourth page. I've just reverted to 10649, where this doesn't happen. Odd! Will you file a bug report? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: star-command to fetch a web page
On 4 Jul 2010 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: does there exist a command i can put in an obeyfile or type in a taskwindow that would tell the browser to fetch a certain web page? (and launch the browser if it's not already running?) e.g. *heyfetch text string i'm trying to set up a Keystroke to do this from a selected bit in a textfile. *wget is on the right line but of course fetches the stuff only as text in a taskwindow. Not sure if this is what you want, but ... Open the page, menu over it, Page Save Location Acorn URI and save this file to a suitable location. Double-clicking on this (or making Keystroke pretend to do this) will open the page in NetSurf, as long as NS is running or has been seen by the filer. HTH, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: test builds after 2.5
On 18 May 2010 george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last stable RISC OS release, should I continue to download and install test builds from the RISC OS section of the Downloads area? Presumably, at a certain point, these will fail due to incompatibility with the existing RO front end, but when? For the record, I'm running r10528 at the moment on RO 5.16 (Iyonix), which seems to work fine. And I'm running r10550 on 5.16, ditto. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: hiccup with emailed link to a password-protected file
On 17 May 2010 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: nobody responded to my earlier posting (quoted below). problem has come up again. here are some smaller sample files: Oh, yes, I have! On the MPro list. And is it wise to put Gerald's passwords on a public posting, I wonder? [snip] With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
A BBC page failing to load.
Could someone please try this for me, before I think about submitting a bug request, in case I'm doing something silly? Trying to load http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour (I was trying to download the podcast for S(WMBO)+(WILAC) ) NetSurf r10504 on RISC OS 5.16 gets stuck on this machine with the little NetSurf hourglass running at the stage of converting bytes (the number is about 5000 -8000 and varies). I've waited for over a minute, and nothing gets loaded. All the other BBC programme sites I've tried work as they should do. The same thing happens with 2.0, and with 1.2 it gets up to about converting 16000 bytes, and then stops with no hourglass. NetSurf then refuses to quit; I had to use CloseFiles to close the logfile before I could save it, which I have done. I think I blame the BBC rather than NetSurf; is it worth a bug report? It loads fine in Windows Firefox, by the way. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Netsurf.Page.Export.PDF
On 27 Apr 2010 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi After using the current Netsurf(25/04/10)r10482 I tried to export the webpage as a PDF. I went into the export.PDF stage and dragged the file to a directory but the file isn't deposited and it doesn't seem to have been saved. Though it gives the impression it had. I tried exporting as a DRAW and TXT file and that worked and shows in a directory, but not a PDF. Has this option been disabled? Confirmed that the same happens here. RISC OS 5.16, FWIW. Do you want to put in a bug report? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Netsurf.Page.Export.PDF
On 27 Apr 2010 Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 27 Apr 2010 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi After using the current Netsurf(25/04/10)r10482 I tried to export the webpage as a PDF. I went into the export.PDF stage and dragged the file to a directory but the file isn't deposited and it doesn't seem to have been saved. Though it gives the impression it had. I tried exporting as a DRAW and TXT file and that worked and shows in a directory, but not a PDF. Has this option been disabled? Confirmed that the same happens here. RISC OS 5.16, FWIW. Do you want to put in a bug report? Wake up at the back there, Young. It's been pointed out to me off-list that the changelog for 2.5 specifically mentions the disablement of PDF export. Apologies! Presumably printing with the new PS3 drivers to PrintPDF would work? Just tried, and, no, it doesn't seem to, with the pages I've tried. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: RISC OS autobuilder re-enabled
On 18 Apr 2010 Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: In article 510a0e4a4dt...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 510a0b9091sjcl...@ormail.co.uk, Steve Clark sjcl...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I have the same problem. I've put in an bug report. Thanks, I see in the screenshot that the URL starts with file:/, please try changing it to file:///. Does that fix it? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_URI_scheme for more info on the form of file: URLs. Best regards, That does indeedy work. And an HTML file here from my HD works straight away with r10422 and RISC OS, with the file:/// in place automatically. Great to see more development, and even better that the BBC weather site doesn't gobble up half the machine's memory now. Many thanks to all. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: cutpaste oddity
On 5 Apr 2010 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: [snip cut and paste not working from Impression to NetSurf] This isn't a NetSurf problem. The URL bar is just a standard Wimp writable icon (I think; I'm open to corrections), and so Ctrl-V into it is handled by whatever you use to handle the clipboard in writable icons on your system. [snip] Peter, with an Iyonix, is probably using IcnClipBrd. That /does/ play with Impression (or, it /should/ do -- if it doesn't, I would be surprised). [snip] It that's this Peter, then, yes, I do use IcnClipBrd on this Iyonix, but I've never used Impression, so I can't test whether the transfer would work. However, I did post about how to make a URL or e-mail address in OPro trigger a launch in NetSurf or e-mail app. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: inconsistency between Linux and RISC OS
On 1 Feb 2010 rick...@argonet.co.uk wrote: On my website there is an inconsistency between RISC OS and Linux when displaying an image via a css defined background-url. On RISC OS NetSurf R8643 www.gaydon.org.uk displays a background image of wind turbines. If you click on the first link: - contacts The contacts page is displayed and the background image is also shown. Not with r9799 on RISC OS 5.16. No turbines on the contact page. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf at Wakefield Show 2010
On 16 Jan 2010 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote: On 15 Jan, Michael Bell wrote in message 9d6e16da50.michaelb...@michael.beaverbell.co.uk: In message 20100115131610.5b82a...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Perhaps 5 to 10 years of experience to learn C and using the WIMP from C before you start, along with perhaps a month to get to grips with NetSurf's sources. Far beyond most of us, I'm afraid. That may be true, but I've asked groups of RISC OS users to take on some of the more paper shuffling tasks that I've been doing for the platform over the last six months, to free up the time that I required for looking at NetSurf. They were things that could be done with a copy of Ovation Pro and a grasp of the English langauge[1], but even these requests for help were met with total silence. I might be able to help with at least some of this. Please let me know off-list (address is valid) what sort of things need doing. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: National Rail Enquiries site no longer works
On 27 Dec 2009 Roger Darlington roger...@freeuk.com wrote: On 26 Dec 2009, Dr Peter Young wrote: On 18 Dec 2009 Matthew Somerville matt...@dracos.co.uk wrote: Jim Nagel wrote: http://www.traintimes.org.uk/ ... Hmm, looks like it's encoding a trailing space into the URL it gets redirected to. Try removing any instance of %20 in the URL it sends when you to when you submit the form. contact him about this %20 problem via the link at top right of page. I've fixed the encoding of spaces in the station names, which I think is what's being referred to here. Thanks for letting me know. Unfortunately not working for me here; RISC OS 5.13 and NetSurf test build r9725. I get the 20s not in the station names, but between the date and time in the URL. Till today, I could manually edit these out and get a result, but now if I try this, they immediately go back in again! Thanks for your work, Matthew, on a very useful site. Have you tried again Peter? Matthew modified it yesterday because I was getting %20's between the station name and the date. Yesterday, he modified it to remove all spaces, wherever they occurred in the entry fields. It works fine for me now (Netsurf r8643, being the last one before it gobbles up memory). Yes, working now, and wasn't yesterday. Thanks to Matthew for doing it, and to Roger for pointing this out. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC Weather site display
On 21 Nov 2009 David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 21 Nov 2009 David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: [snip] I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I wonder what the experts have to say? Given the general slowness reported I would have doubts about Peter's broadband speed. I get about 6000kb/s and Firefox 3.5.5 downloaded at over 700kB/s. Yes, indeed, I know my broadband is on the slow side; as I understand it, we're about at the maximum distance from the exchange. Putting in the timings was a way of pointing out what I think is an unnecessary amount of bloat on the BBC sites, not to complain about slowness! The BBC site is certainly not slimline at all but even my slowest non-RISCOS machine, XP on a single 1.4MHz core, copes well. Lots of sites are over complicated these days. The BBC site does offer, debloated?, versions for mobiles, and at this point I find a minor snag. On the BBC's home page some links are not displayed in Netsurf at the top left in the purple bit above the BBC logo, fortunately the Mobile link is present. Chase that around for a while to reach this which is a bit quicker, (but not a lot), :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/d/index.mobile.shtml Useful to know, and thanks, but here, with my slow broadband line, it's not that much faster. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC Weather site display
On 21 Nov 2009 David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: [snip] I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I wonder what the experts have to say? Given the general slowness reported I would have doubts about Peter's broadband speed. I get about 6000kb/s and Firefox 3.5.5 downloaded at over 700kB/s. Yes, indeed, I know my broadband is on the slow side; as I understand it, we're about at the maximum distance from the exchange. Putting in the timings was a way of pointing out what I think is an unnecessary amount of bloat on the BBC sites, not to complain about slowness! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC Weather site display
On 20 Nov 2009 Gerald Dodson gerald.dod...@argonet.co.uk wrote: November 15 version: On first accessing the BBC weather site the part of the page initially shown is blank and there is a error occurs with a png. Stepping down results in the image on the lower part of the page being shown and on returning to the top part that appears correctly. So far I have not had memory problems but with this version I have had a message to say Netsurf running short. Any comments? Only ignorant ones from someone who doesn't understand the technicalities :-( This is with RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9677 and broadband. The BBC sites in general seem to be getting more and more bloated. The BBC front page, which I have as my home page, with its 100+ images (really needed?) takes 25 seconds or so to load, and I can no longer edit it significantly. It takes quite a time to load in Windows Firefox, too, though I haven't timed it. I've given up on the BBC weather sites, for just the reason that Gerald mentions. The Metcheck sites (try http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=GL52%203DS for instance) seem to work better, though this had just taken 35 seconds to load, but hasn't made huge inroads into memory. I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I wonder what the experts have to say? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: (housekeeping) private copies vs list
On 14 Oct 2009 Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:32:00 +0100 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: please, if sending a private copy to somebody while posting to the list, put the list in the TO field and the private copy in CC or BCC? then people's filtering systems will be happy. You mean you don't filter based on To or CC as well as List-Id? :) Or return-path? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Global history in RISC OS
On 7 Oct 2009 Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: In article e00d04a650.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Ah, but I can load it into StrongED and search for URLs and launch them from there. You may have to edit some as the URL has been split. Shortcuts for hotlist and global history are now both in my NeXTBar. Problem solved! Maybe so, and I may be thick: Open a NetSurf window. Adjust click the History button. Menu In the Global History window History Export drag the HTML icon to the NetSurf iconbar icon or the filer or whatever. Ah, doesn't it look like Fresco. ;-) Wow! I never had any idea that it did that; many thanks. And it does that with the hotlist, too. That seems to provide exactly what you are after. Two clicks, a slide and a drag too many? Not laziness, just ignorance. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On 29 Sep 2009 John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:14 +0100, Michael Drake wrote: In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our workload when triaging them. If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than 128MB), then we do want such reports please. Loading this page as the first in a NetSurf session produces nine dynamic areas attributed to NetSurf ranging from 268K up to 131040K, so I'm not doing a bug report. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 as the first page on a 500MB Iyonix (RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9597) with FreeMem initially reporting 425MB free, reduces the free memory to 286MB, with warnings that NetSurf is running out of memory. There are also a lot of Error converting png messages during the loading, which takes well over 30 seconds. I have the log file if it's considered worth reporting this on the bug tracker. I'm glad that metcheck.com has at last sorted out its problems, as I can get trouble-free forecasts from this site. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On 29 Sep 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) OK, will do tomorrow. Thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On 29 Sep 2009 John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:14 +0100, Michael Drake wrote: In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our workload when triaging them. If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than 128MB), then we do want such reports please. OK, I'll look into this further, and will put in a bug report only if necessary; thanks. What about the error converting png thing, however? Is this the fault of the site? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Google formatting; thanks.
From the entry for r9012 on the Test Builds page: Add default line-height for form elements. Fixes squashed Google homepage. Much better, and many thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Serious error when doing a full save to disc
On 26 Jul 2009 Richard Ashbery ris...@gotadsl.co.uk wrote: Serious Save bug when Adjust-clicking on Save icon. A fatal error from NetSurf occurs (must exit immediately) and icon disappears from iconbar. A good site to try this on is. http://vector.tutsplus.com/tutorials/illustration/how-to-convert-a-pho tograph-into-abstract-line-art/ Occured on previous release but sorry I didn't report it. Could it be related to the enormous file line lengths? RISCOS 5.13/NetSurf r8791 (25-07-09). Seems to work OK here. Same page, same test-build, RISC OS 5.14 With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized
On 6 Jul 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article c7bc897650.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: How did you make the screenshot, I wonder? I'd be interested to do that with a couple of the Unicode fonts that I have. It's a screenshot of RUfl Chars, a sort of example program that comes with RUfl. I don't think there is currently a binary of it available anywhere. If anyone does come across this program I would be grateful if they could send it or a link; just our of idle curiosity, of course :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized
On 26 May 2009 Mike Hobbs mike.ho...@antplc.com wrote: I just tried 2.1 and can't get past the first hurdle... Unicode font library could not be initialized... I'm using it on Virtual RPC-SA (RO 4.02) which has been running various versions of NetSurf successfully up to 2.0 and I just rolled back to 2.0 and its fine. The only resource/module that was updated was Tinct and the new version is working fine with NS 2.0. I've tried both new and old !Unicode - no difference. This sounds just like the problem I had, which turned out to be due to a corrupt font, and therefore easily solved. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf rendering speed test
On 25 May 2009 Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote: Hello :) Please can somebody try accessing the following site in NetSurf and tell me how it compares speed-wise to any other page: http://www.amigaimpact.org It is painfully slow in my port (takes about 8 seconds to page down), so I want to know whether it is something in my code slowing it down or something which affects the core. About ten seconds here; RISC OS 5.14. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Save as drawfile broken in r7513
On 18 May 2009 Gary Jones localn...@ntlworld.com wrote: In message 3b11435c50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 16 May 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 9a0b0a5c50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Anyone going to post a bug report? As I brought it to the attention of this list I thought I'd better submit a bug report but when I tried to submit it I got Sorry, netsurf was unable to display that page. Maybe I've done something wrong but the sourceforge page doesn't seem very NS friendly. OK, done the bug report, but I wish it had been done by someone with more understanding. BTW, sorry for wasting time with bug 2788245, caused by a corrupt font. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Save as drawfile broken in r7513
On 16 May 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 9a0b0a5c50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Anyone going to post a bug report? Please say what URLs cause broken drawfile export. www.bbc.co.uk for one. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Save as drawfile broken in r7513
On 15 May 2009 Gary Jones localn...@ntlworld.com wrote: I've been successfully using the very useful save as drawfile in v2.00. However, I notice in r7513 some files are causing !Darw to complain with multiple errors for example Bounding box coordinates are in the wrong order at location 16_10734. Can anyone else replicate this? (!Draw v2.40 [select]) Yes. Draw 1.14, RISC OS 5.14. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Save as drawfile broken in r7513
On 15 May 2009 Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: In article 38a2e85b50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 15 May 2009 Gary Jones localn...@ntlworld.com wrote: I've been successfully using the very useful save as drawfile in v2.00. However, I notice in r7513 some files are causing !Darw to complain with multiple errors for example Bounding box coordinates are in the wrong order at location 16_10734. Can anyone else replicate this? (!Draw v2.40 [select]) Yes. Draw 1.14, RISC OS 5.14. With best wishes, Peter. RO Select 6.16 NetSurf r7513 Draw 2.40 I also get multiple errors. Reverting to an earlier version, no problems. Anyone going to post a bug report? I'd rather it was someone with more understanding than me. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
r7415 and fonts.
I've just tried downloading and running r7415 with its changes in font handling. Running it gives the font scanning window, which then gets stuck with the hourglass at 18% while scanning Cyberbit, and I've had to go back to 7402. The first font it comes to is also a Unicode one (Abysinnica, giving Amharic characters) and this scans OK. Does anyone else find this? If so, I'll put in a bug report. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: r7415 and fonts.
On 7 May 2009 Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I've just tried downloading and running r7415 with its changes in font handling. Running it gives the font scanning window, which then gets stuck with the hourglass at 18% while scanning Cyberbit, and I've had to go back to 7402. The first font it comes to is also a Unicode one (Abysinnica, giving Amharic characters) and this scans OK. Does anyone else find this? If so, I'll put in a bug report. Just tried again, and the font scan continued after 90 seconds on Cyberbit. When it came to run, an error message said Error from NetSurf: The Unicode font library could not be initialized. Please report this to the developers, so I'm about to put in a bug report, with logfile. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: r7415 and fonts.
On 7 May 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article eaae965750.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I've just tried downloading and running r7415 with its changes in font handling. Running it gives the font scanning window, which then gets stuck with the hourglass at 18% while scanning Cyberbit Are you sure it's not just taking longer on that font because it contains vastly more glyphs than the others? See my next posting! I thought that too. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: r7415 and fonts.
On 7 May 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article b00fae5750.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 7 May 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: That's interesting, and in investigating this I discover that I had two copies of SwissB, one in Resources.!Fonts and one in FontFS. I've removed both of these, and r7415 now runs OK. I wonder, could the duplicate copy have caused NetSurf to be puzzled? Please could you e-mail that font to me off-list. Done. Thanks. It scanned past SwissB and worked fine when I tried it. I've put that one back in Resources.!Fonts, and r7415 is happy with it, as you say. Do you still have the other copy of SwissB that you had? If so, can you send me that one too please? Unfortunately not; I just absent-mindedly deleted it, with at the back of my mind the thought that it may have been useful evidence. I'll dig it out of the backup, but won't be able to do this till later today, as I've currently run out of time. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: r7415 and fonts.
On 7 May 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article b00fae5750.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 7 May 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: That's interesting, and in investigating this I discover that I had two copies of SwissB, one in Resources.!Fonts and one in FontFS. I've removed both of these, and r7415 now runs OK. I wonder, could the duplicate copy have caused NetSurf to be puzzled? Please could you e-mail that font to me off-list. Done. Thanks. It scanned past SwissB and worked fine when I tried it. Do you still have the other copy of SwissB that you had? If so, can you send me that one too please? Restored from backup, and being sent off-list. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder
On 29 Apr 2009 Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@phone.coop wrote: It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address Finder with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the more recent test builds did work OK. I have just tried it with NetSurf 2.0 and there is a problem again. www.royalmail.com/postcodes When entering info into the form here, while the cursor moves along the space, no characters appear to be entered. It does not appear to be a case of, for some reason, white characters being entered on a white ground, as if you do enter apparently invisible data and then click the find button, it behaves as though no data has been entered. Anyone else seen this? Works OK here with test build r7359 on RISC OS 5.13. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf 2.0
On 24 Apr 2009 John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The NetSurf developers are happy to announce the completion of NetSurf 2.0. This release contains many new features and enhancements as well as many minor bug fixes and improvements. It will be made available for download from http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ on Saturday 25th April. Excellent news, and sorry not to be able to be at Wakefield. Pardon my ignorance, but will future development versions be based on this? I never quite know how these things work. TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: automating login details
On 16 Apr 2009 Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:39:19 +0100 Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name. Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help file and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't been my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons. However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ... Given NetSurf doesn't use icons for forms, I think this classes as a hack as it must be typing it in and hoping form tab ordering hasn't changed :) That's too deep for me, but NetSurf's forms, if I've got the term right, will accept output from FFiler, and will also accept selections dragged and dropped from at least StrongED and OPro; I do this regularly. Useful feature. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: automating login details
On 16 Apr 2009 Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: is there any way of automatically providing my username and password when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently? It depends. If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass this information in the URL; http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/ If the user name and password is collected via a form on the web page, and the site doesn't have a remember me tick box, you'll need to use a browser that can automatically fill in forms and remember passwords for you. There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name. Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help file and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't been my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons. However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ... With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Worth a bug report?
I suspect this may be due to bad HTML rather than to a NetSurf bug, but I don't have the knowledge to confirm or deny this. 1) Go to the new (and I think a lot worse) BBC weather site. I use http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 2) Ignore all the warnings about missing JavaScript :-) 3) Click on Following 24 hours. This brings up the Wind, humidity, pressure and visibility information, which should have come from the line above Following 24 hours. 4) A second click on Following 24 hours now brings up the required information. Any comments from an expert? TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Newbie wants help - 2nd thoughts
On 11 Feb 2009 Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2009 Michael Bell wrote: Maybe I should mention that I renamed my old !NetSurf to !NetSurfOld to get it out of the way, as I think I ought to. I don't know if that's relevant. That's what I do, or more accurately I rename it to !NetSurfmmdd where mmdd is the release month and date. I keep the last three releases that I download unless two are on the same day. That only happens if there's a new bug that needs to be fixed urgently. There are also various scripts knocking around that automatically rename backup copies of NetSurf and then download the new version using wget. Saves a lot of work, if you're idle like me! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: r6324 crashes on loading
On 31 Jan 2009 Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: SARPC RO 6.14 32K colour NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (31 Jan 2009 16:30) r6324 crashes on loading. Please see log attached to bug report https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2553069grou p_id=51719atid=464312 All fine here with RISC OS 5.13. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: Overlapping text problem again
On 27 Jan 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 4fe96cd8d7lists-nos...@vigay.com, Paul Vigay lists-nos...@vigay.com wrote: I'm this this one had been sorted in the past, but I've just looked at the Daily Mail (I'm not a reader, someone emailed me the link, honest gov) website and all the text is overlapping one of the side-bars, which makes it very difficult to read. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-486930/The-sinister-truth-chil drens-fingerprints.html Should be fixed in the latest build. [snip] It is, but not yet with http://www.traintimes.org.uk/ which overlaps badly, as someone else has reported. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: Text overlap
On 13 Jan 2009 Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote: http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14177/css/14177_35.htm has bad text overlap problems. Not here with RISC OS 5.13 and NetSurf r6029. Looks OK to me. It's a pigs-ear of an html, using lots of text position information in the css! I suspect if NS can work that it can work miracles! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk.
Re: The Register
On 10 Dec 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just started getting errors on the home page of http://www.theregister.co.uk/ . The errors are invalid block type and invalid code lengths set. Oregano 1 can read the page. Why is NetSurf turning its nose up at it? Memory corruption? Is it worth rebooting the machine and trying again? I've just viewed the site ok with build r5897 Ditto. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: streetmap.co.uk
On 4 Dec 2008 Bernard Boase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh dear. That s useful site http://www.streetmap.co.uk has now been redesigned. You can for the time being click through to the original version, but with the new one you enter names, postcodes etc. a bit displaced below the proffered input box, and it still works. But on choosing the new 5x5 Map Size option the map squares are displayed tastefully jumbled into a 3x9 grid on my Iyonix! Happily, the Export to Draw function operates as before for 3x3 and, for 5x5, you can then use Draw to solve the jigsaw. This new site is a real pig's ear! How, with the new site (described as beta, by the way) did you chose the 3X3 map? I can't find how to do it. With best wishes, Peter. (a.k.a. Disgusted of Cheltenham) -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More overlapping text
On 3 Dec 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using NetSurf (latest build), and having reset the font settings to their default values (which occasionally fixed this problem in the past), all the text and headings at http://www.badidea.co.uk/index.php are overlapping, making it impossible to read. Yet again, it's all fine here, same build. There must be something different about Paul's settings. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More overlapping text
On 3 Dec 2008 Kevin Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet again, it's all fine here, same build. There must be something different about Paul's settings. That's odd. Last time you said it worked ok for you, it turned out that I'd made the font sizes a lot smaller from the default, so I specifically reset NetSurf to the default values before testing this time. Odd. Is it worth comparing screen displays between the two of you? We have done just that in the past, but I think that this time the problem may be solved with a new test build. I saw a post suggesting this, but I can't find it now! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't save as text
On 2 Dec 2008 Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I imagining things? Before I raise a bug report, please open the following page and try to export it as text. Nothing happens. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/02/hands_free_danger/ You aren't imagining things. However, if you select the text, and drag the selection out, it saves OK. I can save the page as draw or as html, and having saved it as html I can then open the saved file and export it as text. So why won't it save in the first place? No idea. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Failure to save a multimap as pdf or gif
On 2 Nov 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend has sent me this link to a Yellow Pages - Multimap. http://www.yell.com/myyell/us.do?key=00C4J0 [Snip] But it doesn't work! I get the text, but not the map. It may be that Multimap is trying to stop its map being copied. Click MENU over the map itself and then export the page as a Draw file. It will then save the map. I suspect the page is a frameset, which means the save icon at the top will only export the parent frame, which is blank. That doesn't work for me; I just get the text only as Michael says. However, if I click on the map and then do save as object, I can save the map as a png file. DPlngScan will then convert this to a jpg, which should suit Windows. Mail me if you don't have DPlngScan, and I'll send you the jpg. HTH, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vanishing BBC
On 17 Oct 2008 Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I upgraded to r5588, www.bbc.co.uk times out without loading anything. It works with Windows Firefox. Has anyone else found this? If so, I'll file a bug report. Sorry, I was too impatient. It's back again after two and a half hours of being inaccessible. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overlapping text problem again
On 5 Oct 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm this this one had been sorted in the past, but I've just looked at the Daily Mail (I'm not a reader, someone emailed me the link, honest gov) website and all the text is overlapping one of the side-bars, which makes it very difficult to read. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-486930/The-sinister-truth-chil drens-fingerprints.html I'm using NetSurf build r5480 (3rd Oct) OK here with r5524 (9 Oct). With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overlapping text problem again
On 10 Oct 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: it very difficult to read. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-486930/The-sinister-truth-chil drens-fingerprints.html I'm using NetSurf build r5480 (3rd Oct) OK here with r5524 (9 Oct). That's weird, as I've just downloaded the latest build (r5530) and it's still doing it. It appears to be a fixed width page so it doesn't make any difference if I make the NetSurf window much wider - it still overlaps all the text, making it unreadable. :-( Screenshot sent off-list, to see if what I see is in fact different. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overlapping text problem again
On 10 Oct 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Screenshot sent off-list, to see if what I see is in fact different. Screenshot sent in return. And yes, what you're seeing is totally different. I'm envious! :-) Yes, we see totally different things. All I can imagine (groping in the dark) is that it could be something to do with monitor settings. I'm on 1024 X 768 (the highest my monitor will do) and 16 million colours. Could that be likely? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems using Royal Mail's postcode finder
On 16 Sep 2008 Rob Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:27:31 +0100 Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, is downloading the new builds particularly slow at the moment, or is it just me? 1min 57sec just now, with broadband, 5.13 and wget. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wget http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/development/netsurf.zip --12:17:49-- http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/development/netsurf.zip = `netsurf.zip' Resolving www.netsurf-browser.org... 87.237.62.181 Connecting to www.netsurf-browser.org|87.237.62.181|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 2,422,800 (2.3M) [application/zip] 100%[] 2,422,800 1.12M/s 12:17:51 (1.12 MB/s) - `netsurf.zip' saved [2422800/2422800] Additionally, having looked on the server, it's not loaded, and our ISP have not reported any networking issues (and they're normally pretty good at that.) Are you experience speed issues to other sites? Can I ask which ISP you use? (If you email me directly with your IP address, I can investigate more closely.) Thanks; replied off-list. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.
On 4 Sep 2008 Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Sep 2008 Roger Darlington wrote: On 3 Sep 2008, Michael Drake wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roger Darlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetSurf, it appears, will search un-framed sites, but not framed ones. Click in the frame you want to search and either press F4 or do Menu Utilities Find text. I have already tried that: it doesn't work in; Wild Flowers http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/ Did it work for you?? That site doesn't work for me at all. I just see the banner at the top, part of which overwrites other parts. The rest of the screen is blank. With NetSurf, you have to scale the page down; 90% works here for me. And searching within a frame works here too. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.
On 4 Sep 2008 David J. Ruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Sep 2008 Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Sep 2008 Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Sep 2008 Roger Darlington wrote: I have already tried that: it doesn't work in; Wild Flowers http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/ Did it work for you?? That site doesn't work for me at all. I just see the banner at the top, part of which overwrites other parts. The rest of the screen is blank. With NetSurf, you have to scale the page down; 90% works here for me. Well thats never correct, something should always be displayed, regardless of the window width. I suggest thats raised as in a bug report too. BTW in FF3 on the EEE 701 with its 800 pixel wide screen, you see the first 3 frames, but there is no horizontal scrollbar for the entire window. The only way to get the 4th frame is to scale the window down two steps (Ctrl - in FF3). Isn't that a bug too? :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
