Re: accessible ddp-Creator
I'm sure it was on the App Store for a while, but I couldn't find it in my brief jaunt around t'interweb. HTH. Sent from my iPhone On 9 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stefan, Really? Wave Burner, part of the Logic Studio package, is no longer being sold? I never heard that. Interesting… Well, thanks for that bit of news. I'll check out DSP Quadro, for what it's worth. Too bad, Wave Burner is great. cheers, Slau On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hello Slau, Wave burner isn't available anymore. An Alternative is DSP Quadro http://www.dsp-quattro.com/dspquattro/Site/DSP-Quattro.html Best wishes Stefan
Re: Question concerning audioprocessing
Use VoiceOver space to select things rather than the enter key. HTH. Sent from my iPhone On 8 Jan 2013, at 16:26, Michael Kuhlmann hallo-mich...@gmx.de wrote: Hello to the list, first of all a happy and blessed new year for all of you. Hopefully it will be a successful year in particular for our efforts concerning accessible Pro Tools. Currently I've got a problem with audioprocesing. I'd like to add a delay to a special part of audio in my session. I tried the following steps: 1. Selected the part of audio, I think 3 bars, with the numpad commands. 2. Opened the Audiosuite-Menue from the edit window to adjust the settings. 3. after adjusting my settings and clicking the process-button I get the error that no audio was selected. I don't understand this message, because I definitely selected audio-material before opening the menu. Running Pro Tools 10.3.2 and OSX Lion 10.7.5. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance and best. Michael
Re: Huh! Now this is really strange! Anyone have any idea?
Unless I'm being stupid (it happens regularly!), you said you were trying to delete something? I'm not sure how everyone else does it, but the way I do it, is to select the audio, then press command b to clear the selection, which seems to delete the audio. That's how I've always done it. I have no idea if it's right, but it works, and the end result is that the audio is deleted. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 10 Jan 2013, at 22:25, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: What're you clearing? I'm totally confused on your reply? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:13 AM Subject: Re: Huh! Now this is really strange! Anyone have any idea? I use command b to clear. It's in the edit menu. HTH, Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jan 2013, at 01:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this is totally weird, not to mention driving me nuts! I'm using PT 10.0. I'm not on any build of 10. I'm literally just on straight 10.0. Not 10.0.1, etc. This is just straight 10.0. I'm using OSX 10.6.8 as my O S which runs ProTools. OK, so here's the deal. Even when I had Lion, I kind a remember this being a problem, but never really knew how to work around it effectively. Basically, I have one track in my entire session. It's a stereo audio track. I'm trying to select a portion of the track, so that I can trim off part of the beginning of the audio. The issue is, I get the audio I need selected, and I make sure under my edit screen that the selecter tool is selected, which it is, and I also make sure that the edit mode cluster is on shuffle. Then, I hit my delete key. Nothing at all happens. Nothing what so ever gets deleted. Yeah, I do have link selection in timeline or whatever that's called and the thing where the marker follows selection, I do have all that correctly set. The only way that I have found to get around this problem so far, is to create another track, doesn't matter if it's an A U X, instrument, audio, or master fader. The bottom line is, I just have to create another track. I don't necessarily have to put anything on it, nor route anything through it with a bus, etc. I just have to have it created. Then, and only! then, I can go up to my track list table, interact with it, go back up to the actual audio track I need to edit, hit vo+space to select it, and then! I can delete with no issue. In other words, more simply put, unless I have at least two tracks in my session, editting seems to be impossible. Even though with one track only, that track seems to be selected in the track table. NO, I don't! know! it's selected, but I'm assuming! it is, based off the fact, there wouldn't be anything else to! select. Plus, Even though with only one track, it reads that table as a text box, not a table, I still anyway, have hit vo+space on the track, just to be sure it was selected. Still, no go. It just won't do it, unless there is more than one track in the session. This is extremely! bizarre! I'm just wonderring if any a you guys have also seen this behavior and if so, aside adding a dummy track temporarily, is there a better work-around? chris.
Re: Pro Tools and operating systems revisited, sorta
I'm not sure either. I only have one drive, and I've not noticed anything bad. Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jan 2013, at 13:54, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Ahem, not sure i catch your drift there. How is your setup? My thought was to dedicate an external drive for PT and the operating system, but do i need another disk for the recordings? Can i not use the internal one for that, or is there a problem with that? /Krister 3 jan 2013 kl. 14:30 skrev Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com: PT needs another drive to record onto? I'm using 1 HD here, and PT has ran fine for the last 2 years or so LOL. Cheers, On 03/01/2013, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Things are never easy are they?:-) Ok, next question then is how big a partition do i need in order for ProTools to function correctly? I'll have to try to reorganize things on my internal hard drive. Lucky i have a readynas to play with. /Krister 3 jan 2013 kl. 02:32 skrev TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com: either the partitioning of the internal drive to have 2 versions of OSX or running it off an external drive. but remember pro tools will want another separate physical drive for recording thats not the drive with the OS on it. So if you go the External HD route for Lion, you will i believe still need a second external hd for recording drive. On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi folks. This week i'll probably get my protools with MBox bundle. My situation will be a bit on the odd side, you see i'm running an IMac with Mountain lion v10.8.2 and i don't want to downgrade, however something in PT is broken under Mountain lion which means i can't use PT as far as i understand. I had originally thought i would use a virtual machine with an earlier OsX version in it, but that may not be the ideal solution for this, so what is the best option for running Mountain lion for my non-musical work and an earlier os for PT? A partition on my internal hard drive?, a bootable external hard drive? Will the latter option be as good as an internal hard drive in terms of speed and so forth. I've got an external WD MYbook Studio with 1 TB that i could format and make it a disk for music, would that work? What other options are there? /Krister -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Pro Tools and operating systems revisited, sorta
Right. I'll start doing that one myself then. Cheers, Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jan 2013, at 18:03, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Krister, The makers of Pro Tools have always recommended using a separate drive for media and advise not using the boot-up drive. That doesn't mean Pro Tools won't work. It'll record fine for limited numbers of tracks with few plug-ins and relatively short lengths. The more you use the internal drive, the more it will become fragmented. While that isn't generally a problem under OS X, it all depends on the volume of work we're talking about. Put it this way, for small things, it's OK but not advisable. A studio would never record to the boot-up drive. It's asking for trouble. I would follow the manufacturer's recommendations and keep the boot-up drive and media drive separate. cheers, Slau On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Ahem, not sure i catch your drift there. How is your setup? My thought was to dedicate an external drive for PT and the operating system, but do i need another disk for the recordings? Can i not use the internal one for that, or is there a problem with that? /Krister 3 jan 2013 kl. 14:30 skrev Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com: PT needs another drive to record onto? I'm using 1 HD here, and PT has ran fine for the last 2 years or so LOL. Cheers, On 03/01/2013, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Things are never easy are they?:-) Ok, next question then is how big a partition do i need in order for ProTools to function correctly? I'll have to try to reorganize things on my internal hard drive. Lucky i have a readynas to play with. /Krister 3 jan 2013 kl. 02:32 skrev TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com: either the partitioning of the internal drive to have 2 versions of OSX or running it off an external drive. but remember pro tools will want another separate physical drive for recording thats not the drive with the OS on it. So if you go the External HD route for Lion, you will i believe still need a second external hd for recording drive. On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi folks. This week i'll probably get my protools with MBox bundle. My situation will be a bit on the odd side, you see i'm running an IMac with Mountain lion v10.8.2 and i don't want to downgrade, however something in PT is broken under Mountain lion which means i can't use PT as far as i understand. I had originally thought i would use a virtual machine with an earlier OsX version in it, but that may not be the ideal solution for this, so what is the best option for running Mountain lion for my non-musical work and an earlier os for PT? A partition on my internal hard drive?, a bootable external hard drive? Will the latter option be as good as an internal hard drive in terms of speed and so forth. I've got an external WD MYbook Studio with 1 TB that i could format and make it a disk for music, would that work? What other options are there? /Krister -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Tracking down OSX Lion?
Truthfully, I never usually use it, but I didn't really have much choice, as I tried to go through the official channels first, and couldn't find any legal way of obtaining Snow Leopard that was fast enough. Also, I'd purchased SL in the past, so I didn't feel bad about getting it torrented just the once. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 4 Jan 2013, at 17:18, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Thanks for the offer but I don't trust torrented software. On 1/4/13, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: I had to get mine from thepiratebay, as I couldn't buy it from anywhere sensibly. I can upload it to my web server if you like? Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jan 2013, at 22:44, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hi everybody. since Mountain Lion, voiceover, and pro tools don't play well together, I am attempting to track down OSX Lion. I am having no luck though. It's not available in the app store and the few thumb drive copies I've found on e bay are being sold for stupidly high prices. Anybody have any tips or recommendations? Thanks, Cameron.
Re: Tracking down OSX Lion?
When I phoned Apple, they said they are still selling it, but only while stocks last. And stocks hadn't lasted in any of the 3 nearest stores to me. Seems they have got copies, but they're not restocking, so if they're out, they're out. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 4 Jan 2013, at 19:20, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, My views are if a program is no longer being sold and you need it for any reason for accessibility or other reasons then downloading it however you can get it is fine as the company is no longer selling it so no real loss for them. Nick Gawronski On Fri, January 4, 2013 3:46 am, Chris Norman wrote: I had to get mine from thepiratebay, as I couldn't buy it from anywhere sensibly. I can upload it to my web server if you like? Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jan 2013, at 22:44, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hi everybody. since Mountain Lion, voiceover, and pro tools don't play well together, I am attempting to track down OSX Lion. I am having no luck though. It's not available in the app store and the few thumb drive copies I've found on e bay are being sold for stupidly high prices. Anybody have any tips or recommendations? Thanks, Cameron.
Re: Pro Tools and operating systems revisited, sorta
PT needs another drive to record onto? I'm using 1 HD here, and PT has ran fine for the last 2 years or so LOL. Cheers, On 03/01/2013, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, Things are never easy are they?:-) Ok, next question then is how big a partition do i need in order for ProTools to function correctly? I'll have to try to reorganize things on my internal hard drive. Lucky i have a readynas to play with. /Krister 3 jan 2013 kl. 02:32 skrev TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com: either the partitioning of the internal drive to have 2 versions of OSX or running it off an external drive. but remember pro tools will want another separate physical drive for recording thats not the drive with the OS on it. So if you go the External HD route for Lion, you will i believe still need a second external hd for recording drive. On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi folks. This week i'll probably get my protools with MBox bundle. My situation will be a bit on the odd side, you see i'm running an IMac with Mountain lion v10.8.2 and i don't want to downgrade, however something in PT is broken under Mountain lion which means i can't use PT as far as i understand. I had originally thought i would use a virtual machine with an earlier OsX version in it, but that may not be the ideal solution for this, so what is the best option for running Mountain lion for my non-musical work and an earlier os for PT? A partition on my internal hard drive?, a bootable external hard drive? Will the latter option be as good as an internal hard drive in terms of speed and so forth. I've got an external WD MYbook Studio with 1 TB that i could format and make it a disk for music, would that work? What other options are there? /Krister -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Will an MBox 3 work with Voiceover?
I have personally never heard of an mBox 3, but I have used the mBox Pro, which, except for the fact that it was B-Stock, and didn't work out of the box, it is a great unit. HTH, and sorry I can't be of more use. On 20/12/2012, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi good people. I'm new to this list and have a couple questions since i'm thinking of getting ProTools. A music store here in Sweden has a very good deal that i wanted to use. They sell a full version of Protools 10 and on the bargain i get a MBox 3. I don't know what an MBox is and i wonder if i can use it and i also wonder if all effects and such are really broken in Protools 10 which to me is a big deal breaker. I mean when could we expect that it will be fixed, can we ever expect this to happen given how low priority accessibility has in all products except Apple ones? Sorry for the harshness of the last statement, just want to know what to do. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: harmony engine
OK, here's my work flow. 1. Create your vocal track, and record some vocals. 2. Either insert the plugin directly on that track, or create a new auxiliary track, and set it's input, and assign a send on the track you made in step 1 to it. 3. The only really important parameter you need for this to work in Harmony Engine it's self, is the parameter that says Fixed Interval, or words to that effect. I usually set to MIDI Omni. This seems to have the effect of reproducing the MIDI you feed it accurately. 4. Create a standard MIDI track, and arm it. Ensure it's input (via the instrument section, which should appear before the MIDI Mute button, if you have instruments showing from the mix windows view popup button), is what you want - it defaults to All. Set it's output (in the same section), is set to the harmony engine plugin, I use channel 1, I'm not sure as it matters much. 5. Hit either record or play, then, when you want harmony to come in, simply play on your MIDI keyboard. Now, assuming you've recorded the MIDI, whenever that passage plays again, the MIDI will trigger the plugin. I really hope this helps, bcause I've not typed for a good few days, and I'm having to really concentrate on it LOL. Have fun. On 17/12/2012, chadbaker2 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i'm trying a demo of harmony engine from antares i can't control it via midi in realtime i want to play a cord on the keyboard and it comes out of my voice i inserted a audio and midi track and on the audio track inserted harmony engine also on the midi output is set to harmony -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: help selecting regions
What is the point in regions? Seems I can do all my moving and stuff with num pad =. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Nov 2012, at 04:31, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Command-e splits a region at the insertion point. Pressing Tab moves the insertion point to the next region boundary. If you're at the beginning of a region, pressing tab will move the insertion point to the end of the region. If another region happens to be adjacent, then you'll happen to be at the next region but, if there's a space between the two regions, then, of course, you'll be at the beginning of silence. Pressing Option with the Tab reverses the movement so you'd be moving earlier in time. The Shift key, in combination with either Tab or Option-Tab, selects the range., whether it's a region or blank space. HTH, Slau On Nov 26, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: 1. How do I make a region split, and second of all, then how do I move from region to region, I know tab is next region, and shift tab selects the current region. I don't remember though what previous region is. Wasn't that option tab? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: help selecting regions Sure. Look in the options menu. Link track and edit selections I believe is the one. Then you can either use the track table to select tracks, or press control p and control ; to move up and down through the tracks. Finally, use number pad = followed by your range. So = 3 = 4 would select bar 3. Hth, Sent from my iPhone On 25 Nov 2012, at 07:45, chadbaker2 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i am trying to select regions for quantizing voiceover says there selected and there not i had a sighted friend look is there something i can turn on where it selects automatically when a track is selected
Re: help selecting regions
Hiya Slau, Sorry, I have not cut magnetic tape, and I don't think I was very specific, trying to type on an iPhone etc. What I meant was, what's the advantage to splitting regions to move bits around etc, when I can do say numpad =, 1, 4, to select bars 1 to 4? I've never used the split region at playhead key command, as I seem to be able to just use numpad = and then copy, cut, clear, etc. If there's something which I should know about which will enhance my Pro Tools experience, I'd love to read about it. Or are we just discussing different methods of achieving the same goal? I have never used the clip list either. Is that something I should play with more too? Cheers, On 27/11/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: A piece of recorded audio is called a region. Well, now in version 10, it's called a clip, technically. The name region is still being used but will probably be phased out over time. Any piece of recorded audio is, in itself, a clip. When cutting a piece to move it around, one must cut at least somewhere, thus creating a new clip. It's analogous to cutting tape. Have you ever edited magnetic tape? Slau On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Chris Norman wrote: What is the point in regions? Seems I can do all my moving and stuff with num pad =. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Nov 2012, at 04:31, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Command-e splits a region at the insertion point. Pressing Tab moves the insertion point to the next region boundary. If you're at the beginning of a region, pressing tab will move the insertion point to the end of the region. If another region happens to be adjacent, then you'll happen to be at the next region but, if there's a space between the two regions, then, of course, you'll be at the beginning of silence. Pressing Option with the Tab reverses the movement so you'd be moving earlier in time. The Shift key, in combination with either Tab or Option-Tab, selects the range., whether it's a region or blank space. HTH, Slau On Nov 26, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: 1. How do I make a region split, and second of all, then how do I move from region to region, I know tab is next region, and shift tab selects the current region. I don't remember though what previous region is. Wasn't that option tab? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: help selecting regions Sure. Look in the options menu. Link track and edit selections I believe is the one. Then you can either use the track table to select tracks, or press control p and control ; to move up and down through the tracks. Finally, use number pad = followed by your range. So = 3 = 4 would select bar 3. Hth, Sent from my iPhone On 25 Nov 2012, at 07:45, chadbaker2 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i am trying to select regions for quantizing voiceover says there selected and there not i had a sighted friend look is there something i can turn on where it selects automatically when a track is selected -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: important control-24 users
Is there not an equivalent 24 track control surface? Cheers, On 27/11/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, it makes more sense to find a used Control|24 for parts. Slau On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Mike Lockett wrote: Hey guys for all Control-24 owners, A parts seller of digidesign/Avid electronic parts informed me to day At the end of this calendar year there will be no more support for the control-24. That means purchasing faders, fader cards, power supplies and such parts Like E Proms will be much harder to buy. These parts are Digi specific so finding generic parts will not work. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: important control-24 users
Ah, sorry, I thought we were talking about the C24, my bad. Cheers, On 27/11/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: There is. It's the C24, the successor to the Control|24. The parts are not necessarily interchangeable, however. Even that control surface will be phased out in the next couple of years. Slau On Nov 27, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Is there not an equivalent 24 track control surface? Cheers, On 27/11/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, it makes more sense to find a used Control|24 for parts. Slau On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Mike Lockett wrote: Hey guys for all Control-24 owners, A parts seller of digidesign/Avid electronic parts informed me to day At the end of this calendar year there will be no more support for the control-24. That means purchasing faders, fader cards, power supplies and such parts Like E Proms will be much harder to buy. These parts are Digi specific so finding generic parts will not work. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: help selecting regions
Sure. Look in the options menu. Link track and edit selections I believe is the one. Then you can either use the track table to select tracks, or press control p and control ; to move up and down through the tracks. Finally, use number pad = followed by your range. So = 3 = 4 would select bar 3. Hth, Sent from my iPhone On 25 Nov 2012, at 07:45, chadbaker2 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i am trying to select regions for quantizing voiceover says there selected and there not i had a sighted friend look is there something i can turn on where it selects automatically when a track is selected
Re: Behringer BCF2000 is it ok to control all vst synth and effects?
I am now using the Project Mix IO, which is pretty cheap, if you can find one, and combines 8 touch sensative 100 mm motorised faders, and 8 mic pres, and I personally love it. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 25 Nov 2012, at 19:34, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Transport controls are play, rewind, fast forward, stop etc. A jog/shuttle wheel assists with navigation and fine editing. On 11/26/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, sorry for asking, what is transport control o jog/shuttle wheel Thanks Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:00 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Behringer BCF2000 is it ok to control all vst synth and effects? Yes it will. I explained why in my other message yesterday. Keep in mind though that it does not have transport controls or a jog/shuttle wheel. It's still a great deal considering the price though! Cameron. On 11/26/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote: HI all: Will it work on pro tools? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
Re: Getting into Pro Tools: accessibility status and things to consider?
There have been loads of posts on this very topic on the last 2 weeks or so. If you head over to the list's google group page, you'll probably find links to many of them in the recent threads thingy. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 25 Nov 2012, at 17:25, Robin Kipp mli...@robin-kipp.net wrote: Hello all! Well, I've now been thinking about getting Pro Tools for audio editing and possibly producing as well. I do use Mac OS primarily for all of my computer-related tasks, and would love to also use my Mac for audio editing. However, before I take the plunge and purchase Pro Tools, I was wondering if someone could tell me what the accessibility status is at the moment? I've heard that currently there are some problems related to accessibility and also Mac OS X Mountain Lion, and that Avid Audio said they'd look into those issues in future releases, which is definitely great! So, I was wondering how usable it really is at the moment... Could I just go and buy it whenever I wanted and dive right into it, or would it be better to wait for an upgrade? Also, are all the functions accessible using VO functionality and keyboard commands / shortcuts, or would it be advisable to buy some kind of MIDI interface in order to control certain things? Also, I was thinking of connecting a MIDI keyboard and setting it up in pro tools so I could use that to compose music. Is that currently possible using PT and VO, or are there any issues related to these things? Sorry for all the questions... It's just that those things are pretty important for me and I know this is probably the best place to ask! :-) Thanks for any advice! Robin
Re: Getting into Pro Tools: accessibility status and things to consider?
Hi mate, Actually, downgrading is easier than you might think. If you buy Mac OS X Lion from the app store, you can extract the dmg from the app, by right clicking the Install Lion.app folder, and clicking Show Package Contents. From there, go to Contents/Shared Resources, there is a file called Install ESD.dmg. Copy that to your desktop, and burn it to a dual layer DVD, then boot from it, by holding the c key down while booting your computer. You can even partition your disk by holding down command r when your computer comes on. Voice Over will work for the install, and the recovery partition. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 25 Nov 2012, at 22:36, Robin Kipp mli...@robin-kipp.net wrote: Hi Chris, thanks for your reply! I've already tried going through the archive before, but was having some issues accessing the Google Groups pages with Vo. However, I just tried again and I looked at some recent posts... And hey, great work guys! Really looks like Pro Tools should be much much more accessible in the future, I definitely hope so since I would love to use it! At this time, all my machines have already been upgraded to Mac OS 10.8, and I don't think downgrading is even possible. Also, I haven't seen any way of still purchasing Pro Tools 9 from Avid, though I may well have overlooked something. Thus, I guess I will (have to) wait until a new, improved version comes out - and hey, I most definitely hope this will be anytime fairly soon! :-) Robin
Re: Getting into Pro Tools: accessibility status and things to consider?
I'll see about uploading all the OS X dmgs to my band's website, since I'm thinking by now everyone's brought them anyways by now. Hth, Sent from my iPhone On 26 Nov 2012, at 00:42, Robin Kipp mli...@robin-kipp.net wrote: Hey man, thanks for the info! Yes, I've previously read about this somewhere like ages ago, but never really cared to burn a recovery DVD for either Lion or Mountain Lion, sighs... The problem here is that now that Mountain Lion is out, Apple has pulled Lion from the Mac App Store. If you search for 'Lion' in the App Store, the only OS that will come up (at least for me) is Mountain Lion. Thus, it really seems impossible to go get a copy of Lion and downgrade... But hey, if you've got any other idea, or in case I've missed something blatantly obvious that will make downgrading a breeze, then please do feel free to let me know! :-) Robin Am 26.11.2012 um 00:45 schrieb Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com: Hi mate, Actually, downgrading is easier than you might think. If you buy Mac OS X Lion from the app store, you can extract the dmg from the app, by right clicking the Install Lion.app folder, and clicking Show Package Contents. From there, go to Contents/Shared Resources, there is a file called Install ESD.dmg. Copy that to your desktop, and burn it to a dual layer DVD, then boot from it, by holding the c key down while booting your computer. You can even partition your disk by holding down command r when your computer comes on. Voice Over will work for the install, and the recovery partition. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 25 Nov 2012, at 22:36, Robin Kipp mli...@robin-kipp.net wrote: Hi Chris, thanks for your reply! I've already tried going through the archive before, but was having some issues accessing the Google Groups pages with Vo. However, I just tried again and I looked at some recent posts... And hey, great work guys! Really looks like Pro Tools should be much much more accessible in the future, I definitely hope so since I would love to use it! At this time, all my machines have already been upgraded to Mac OS 10.8, and I don't think downgrading is even possible. Also, I haven't seen any way of still purchasing Pro Tools 9 from Avid, though I may well have overlooked something. Thus, I guess I will (have to) wait until a new, improved version comes out - and hey, I most definitely hope this will be anytime fairly soon! :-) Robin
Re: AutoTune 7
I just can't find a control for how much I want the vocals corrected. As I said in my previous post, AutoTune EFX had an option, which could be set to hard tune, soft tune, or simple pitch correct. Logic has a slider for the amount of pitch correction, as does Garage Band, but AT 7 doesn't seem to have anything like this. As I said though, could be because I missed it. Cheers, On 23/11/2012, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I have found that Auto-Tune Evo is quite different than the full fledged version of Auto-Tune. I have the full thing, and absolutely love it. What exactly are you having issues with that makes you think it's that much more complex. I mean, it is, yeah, but I've found the different parameters really do make a lot of sense. Chris. On Nov 22, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hiya All, I just got AutoTune 7 as part of a deal Antares offered me, as I have previously purchased AutoTune EFX, and I'm just wondering, what is the benefit when using it with VoiceOver? I have been using AutoTune EFX for ages, and I can't seem to get AutoTune 7 to replicate some of the things EFX would do. For example, either there is no type parameter, so I can't get the hard tune effect. I'm just wondering if this is because AutoTune 7 is too complex for me to wrap my brain around, or if it's because VO doesn't see some of the parameters? Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
AutoTune 7
Hiya All, I just got AutoTune 7 as part of a deal Antares offered me, as I have previously purchased AutoTune EFX, and I'm just wondering, what is the benefit when using it with VoiceOver? I have been using AutoTune EFX for ages, and I can't seem to get AutoTune 7 to replicate some of the things EFX would do. For example, either there is no type parameter, so I can't get the hard tune effect. I'm just wondering if this is because AutoTune 7 is too complex for me to wrap my brain around, or if it's because VO doesn't see some of the parameters? Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com
Re: going to the mac world
Hi, For a kick off, do you mean iMac? If you really do have an IBM machine, which you're looking to put some kind of Hacintosh thing on, I'm not even sure Pro Tools will run. Other than that, Pro Tools 9 is the best bet if you want to edit your own plugins. If you don't mind just using presets, PT 10 is great, though neither system works amazingly with 10.8, so you're probably best sticking with 10.7 Lion for your production machine. In short, any plugin which is an RTAS plugin will work with VoiceOver, so if you're buying extra plugins, ensure they can be ran as RTAS, not the new AAX format, as the parameters of these fine new plugins aren't visible with VoiceOver. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 23 Nov 2012, at 21:56, Ramy Moustafa wrote: HI all: Finally I can collect some money and I decided to enter the mac world, I will buy an i7 IBm machine, and I will install the macintosh system on it, So, I need to know, the best pro tools version that is accessible with voice over, what are the effects that r accessible also, what programs can we get to use? What about the version of the system 10.7 or what? Please I need info, because someone will install the systems for me. Thanks in advance. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber winmail.dat
Re: going to the mac world
From what I know, and I'm by no means an expert, any version from 8.04 or something will work on 10.5 or above. HTH. Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 23 Nov 2012, at 23:15, Ramy Moustafa wrote: OK, BUT ANY VERSION OF PROTOOLS 9 WILL work on 10.7? or different versions r not accessible\/ Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Norman Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:22 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: going to the mac world Hi, For a kick off, do you mean iMac? If you really do have an IBM machine, which you're looking to put some kind of Hacintosh thing on, I'm not even sure Pro Tools will run. Other than that, Pro Tools 9 is the best bet if you want to edit your own plugins. If you don't mind just using presets, PT 10 is great, though neither system works amazingly with 10.8, so you're probably best sticking with 10.7 Lion for your production machine. In short, any plugin which is an RTAS plugin will work with VoiceOver, so if you're buying extra plugins, ensure they can be ran as RTAS, not the new AAX format, as the parameters of these fine new plugins aren't visible with VoiceOver. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 23 Nov 2012, at 21:56, Ramy Moustafa wrote: HI all: Finally I can collect some money and I decided to enter the mac world, I will buy an i7 IBm machine, and I will install the macintosh system on it, So, I need to know, the best pro tools version that is accessible with voice over, what are the effects that r accessible also, what programs can we get to use? What about the version of the system 10.7 or what? Please I need info, because someone will install the systems for me. Thanks in advance. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber winmail.dat
Re: going to the mac world
It is, and I'd personally not do it, but I know some folks do, so I thought I'd touch all bases. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Nov 2012, at 00:59, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I thought running Hackintoshes was totally! against Apple's terms of service, not to mention, illegal. I certainly wouldn't support tech support on a machine like that. Sorry. On Nov 22, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, For a kick off, do you mean iMac? If you really do have an IBM machine, which you're looking to put some kind of Hacintosh thing on, I'm not even sure Pro Tools will run. Other than that, Pro Tools 9 is the best bet if you want to edit your own plugins. If you don't mind just using presets, PT 10 is great, though neither system works amazingly with 10.8, so you're probably best sticking with 10.7 Lion for your production machine. In short, any plugin which is an RTAS plugin will work with VoiceOver, so if you're buying extra plugins, ensure they can be ran as RTAS, not the new AAX format, as the parameters of these fine new plugins aren't visible with VoiceOver. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 23 Nov 2012, at 21:56, Ramy Moustafa wrote: HI all: Finally I can collect some money and I decided to enter the mac world, I will buy an i7 IBm machine, and I will install the macintosh system on it, So, I need to know, the best pro tools version that is accessible with voice over, what are the effects that r accessible also, what programs can we get to use? What about the version of the system 10.7 or what? Please I need info, because someone will install the systems for me. Thanks in advance. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber winmail.dat
Re: Question about monitoring vocals
OK, upon reading my message back, yes, perhaps it was a little too scathing, so I would like to publicly apologise for that. My aim was not to cause offense. The fact is, however, it took me a very long time to read your email in full, and about 90% of the information in there was you telling a story about your headphones, or making jokes about stuff (clipping like the holy mother vergin mary, sorry to you religious types etc, for example), which had little to do with the actual problem at hand. I don't mind helping at all, in fact, that's one of the reasons I read the amount of the original message that I did, instead of deleting it, but when it takes me 3 minutes to read a message with a 20 second problem in it, I'm afraid, at 2 in the morning, I have a job covering my genetic sarcasm. You are right of course, this list is here to help, and I wouldn't be part of it if I didn't want to share what little I know about stuff, but the other side of that is, there are some people on here for whom music is their job, or if not, then they have some type of full time occupation, which means they may not have time to read a lengthy email. Anyways, In short, I'm genuinely sorry to have offended you, but perhaps try and keep a little more to the point when stating questions? I'm sure you're a great bloke to go to the pub with, but on a Q and A mailing list, my own personal view is that questions should be stream lined a little more. Of course, if you think I'm being way out of order, unreasonable, a moaning old git, or anything like that, feel free to ignore me. I know I can be a sarcastic, scathing, and cinical git at times. My girlfriend has a whole corner of vocabulary, spacifically for those types of occasions. And for my part, I'll try not to reply to emails at 2 o'clock in the morning, if I think there's a risk I'll upset anyone. Have a great day, and whoever it was who corrected me on why we don't need to worry about gains so much anymore, thank you very much, I never knew that, I will certainly try it. Enjoy, On 14/11/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Well, frankly, yes, I did! take offense. How else was I supposed to explain my issue, if I didn't explain how I was doing things? I'm not going to get anywhere if I don't specifically explain what I'm doing so you all can see my mistake, but in fear of being oh, whoops? gasp! to lengthy, with all do respect, I'll cut the bullshit and say no more on the topic. Sorry for asking for any help, sir. Nice to know I can ask questions on list. Oh, and BTW, thanks for your help, right? Jesus H Christ! -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Apple's initial response
I'm not sure I like blindly following advice, maybe a little explanation as to why you're so certain it's Apple's fault wouldn't go amiss Slau, I'm certainly interested. But, on this occasion, I will take your word for it, as I don't really understand the complexities of what Avid did or didn't do reguarding Pro Tools accessibility. Cheers, On 14/11/2012, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: Well, as a programmer I think you might be right. As an Apple developer, if they looked at my code and found accessibility issues and that is what I was reporting then they would be within their right to ask that either I fix the issues or show why I believe they aren't causing the problem. This really can be kindly passed along to all parties and ask that they JOINTLY look at the issue and see what can be done. Please be careful before categorically stating that one or the other party has no responsibility. If they are responsible engineers they shouldn't flatly state they aren't at fault and at least be willing to entertain the idea of a joint look. Has the inspector been used by Avid? If so, I'd hope they are aware of the issues generated by the inspector and what they might mean and there potential side effects. Best, J. R. P. S. I'm just glad I kept my Lion partition around just to use with, yes we will say it quietly, Pro Tools. It is the only thing still over there that requires that partition. I have to do a recording for a concert in a few weeks and while PT might be overkill it is still pretty good. grin From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Norman Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:16 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple's initial response Well, the reason I mention Avid is simple. If Apple start looking at the flood of reports about the same bug, all pertaining to Pro Tools, they'll do what they've done already, and try and palm it off on Avid. If they continue to get the bug returned to them, and the look into it, I'm sure they have actual programmers who really understand the stuff this tool is telling me, and what it's saying, is that Pro Tools isn't exactly squeaky clean. A few accessibility descriptions here and there, and so it gives them more reason to try and pass the book to Avid. I have already emailed Apple about it, and as I previously said, got the same response as Chris, and you Slau, and presumably everyone else who's emailed them, but I don't think we should hold Apple soully responsible for this problem, just because your friend, who is remaining nameless, told you it's a bug on Apple's end. I have no clue about the stuff I'm seeing, but it still can't hurt, if this information is packageable, to send it to Avid, and point out that although most likely, the edit values are an Apple bug, Pro Tools does have some accessibility flaws, which Apple will likely want sorting before it'll even consider the possibility that it's largest piece of software has a bug. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 13 Nov 2012, at 22:06, Slau Halatyn wrote: Please, forget about Avid. As I said several times, this has nothing to do with them. Focus on Apple. Thanks, Slau On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Chris Norman wrote: OK, I found it, and I can happily examine the control. It seems to be telling me it's a button, but then text area is mentioned too. Is there any way to bundle up all the information I found, and send it off to Apple, and / or Avid for analysis? Funnily enough, when I ran a full accessibility analysis of Pro Tools, the only things that kicked off errors were the pan knobs having a press action, and about 140 errors from what looked like Apple's own inputs menu. Cheers, Just downloading xCode on my Lion in Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:54, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Man these people changed the whole structure again, so i have to look for it. Sometimes this company frustrates the hell out of me. zato1.jpg Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 9:44 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: I have Xcode on my laptop. How would I do that? Sent from my iPhone On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, I think you guys should try
Re: an update regarding my meeting with Avid
Be it a Pro Tools expert group or the women's institute, in my experience, the more people who know about a thing, even if it directly affects them or not, they still take an interest, and even if 2 people who aren't blind PT users mention the word accessibility in earshot of Avid, that's two more than before. On 14/11/2012, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys I personally think getting some mainstreem publicity for our cause and getting the message out there of a blind PT using community can only be a good thing and if anything can be an advantage. Slau in the past I mentioned to you that on behalf of us you should connect and build a relationship with the guys of the pro tools expert blog but back then you said to me that it's not a good idea because we already have direct contact with Avid. I still think it's a good idea to connect with them and let them know of our existance. I'm not saying ask them to start putting pressure on Avid or anything, but those guys are really tight with some of the guys working at Avid so if we need anything in the future, they might be able to help with a little perswasive power. No one is quite sure of the PT landscape in the future, the entire mainstreem comunity is unsure of certain things and we are even more so with aaax accessibility etc. I think if only for the sake of them knowing about us, it's still a good idea to extend a friendly hand. Brian Casey wrote: Haha, it was rather public and very much on the record which caught me off gard for one! Good show though!! Brian On 11/11/2012, at 3:06 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, I did happen to catch those mentions on Pensado's Place but I didn't expect that to go down exactly in that manner. At any rate, it's all good in the end and perhaps even better. More to come :) Slau On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Brian Casey wrote: Slau, great stuff, i also noticed two very strong supportive mentions of the meeting on dave pensados youtube show, i'm sure your more than aware of that very public and intentional shout out! Everything you've been telling us about the merrits of your approach seems to be justified completely, well done, hopefully these meetings can consolidate a more official and future proof state of affairs. Brian On 10/11/2012, at 11:07 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Forgive the delay but I wanted to update the list on my meeting with Avid. I'll offer a more detailed explanation in a few days. For now, let me say that the meeting went well and was well attended. Among the many changes at Avid, there have been a few changes to key people in charge of Pro Tools. I believe, in this case, it happens to work in our favor. Again, I'll explain in more detail in a few days. For now, I'm waiting for a couple of things to be coordinated before I go into detail about the meeting and what we might expect in the near future. On a side note, I was scheduled to come back from san Francisco on Sunday, October 28. Unfortunately, because of Hurricane Sandy, my flight was cancelled and thus I was forced to stay in San Francisco an extra 4 days. While there are worse places to be stuck, there are also cheaper places to be stuck, for sure. I'd like to think it was money well spent. Anyway, I've been playing catch-up since then. Things are getting back to normal so give me a few more days and I'll share more. Best, Slau -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: some more details about the meeting and your support
Sorry, hit the wrong key there... There's obviously things you can't discuss, and that's fine, but as you said, when people don't know the whole truth, they tend to jump to assumptions or whatever, as we have obviously done with suggesting Avid be brought into the loop regarding this bug and so on. But, now you've said all that, I'll personally try and be more understanding etc, but please please please, if there's anything we can do, please let us know. I feel strongly about Pro Tools accessibility, and not because I think it's my right as a blind user to be able to use Pro Tools, but because I enjoy working with Pro Tools, and it's a world better than using Garage Band to record with. Maybe if and when logic Accessibility comes along, I'll feel different, Logic certainly looks like a nice piece of software, but I'm sure there'll always be room for PT. Anyways, I'll stop rambling now, but stay on it, and remember there's a whole community willing to help in any way we can. Look forward to hearing of your progress, and as always, have fun! Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:27, Slau Halatyn wrote: Members of this list, I'm writing an open letter to all of you with my concerns and a request. I've been working on the issue of Pro Tools accessibility for a very long time. I wasn't involved with the initial progress back in OS 9 but I did become deeply involved under OS X. I never campaigned for this position, for lack of a better word but I took on the role, firstly, for personal reasons, having wanted to have an accessible platform as an audio engineer and, secondly, for the sake of many blind musicians who needed a unified voice representing the immediate concerns for an accessible Pro Tools platform. I've spent enormous sums of money and countless hours on this project. I never asked for a dime, mostly because of my personal interest in the outcome but also because I never wanted to feel like I was beholden to anybody in any way. There were times, sometimes huge swaths of time, that often passed with no visible results but I knew it was time well spent because of the quality of the relationships I've built and the results we've gotten so far. I now know what it probably feels like to be a politician. Let me assure you that it's no stroll in the park. Sometimes, you are not at liberty to discuss certain details openly for any number of reasons. I have a new appreciation for executive privilege and classified information. That said, I've been as open as I could possibly be with both the list and the periodic updates on the petition site. I also have a new appreciation for how one cannot satisfy the desires of everyone. I can also appreciate that old saying about walking a mile in someone's shoes. Although, as I've said, I've never campaigned for this, I've also fallen into this situation by default. I never asked for this and I only agreed to it, at least in my mind, because I honestly felt responsible and I also felt that I was the right person for the job. Every so often, it seems, I find the need to defend myself against what I essentially find to be restlessness on the part of some people. I don't take it personally because I understand that it comes from a frustration with the status quo or, more accurately, a perceived lack of progress. I, too, feel frustrated some of the time and I share many of the concerns of others on this list. I agree with many ideas and I categorically disagree with other ideas or at least their implementation and timing. I realize that, when I happen to disagree with an approach, I probably lose the confidence of those who see things differently. That's OK. As I said earlier, I accept the fact that I can't satisfy everybody's wishes—it's impossible. What I do feel that I have is the support of the majority of our community and I do appreciate that. As I stated earlier, I feel like a politician and I don't particularly enjoy it. My commitment to the issue of Pro Tools accessibility and to this community are as follows: I will continue my relationship with several key individuals at Avid in the interest of ensuring a future for Pro Tools accessibility. There are a couple of things we're waiting for at the moment that will determine how I feel we should proceed. Pending that initial outcome, I will make a personal decision whether to continue the work I've been doing. Even if the outcome is favorable, I'm not sure that I'll take on any responsibility other than beta testing, as I've done on and off over the years. If the outcome is less favorable, I'll offer my suggestions for a path toward a goal but I won't take on any responsibilities unless an explicit majority of this community give me mandate to move forward with a plan. To put a timeframe on it, essentially, I'll probably have some feeling for which way
Re: Question about monitoring vocals
Not sure how full on AutoTune works, as I only use AutoTune Evo, because it was all I could afford at the time, but I'm guessing there's something in there that's trying to preview audio, to give you a better result? I know AutoTune Evo doesn't give you latency, especially, and never forget this one, if you set the buffer size in Setup - Playback engine to something low. If you're using affects, or software instruments and the like, 128 seems to be pretty optimum, if you're using only a couple of tracks, with no affects, 32 or 64 will get you very little latency. Also, could be the computer you're using. I'm using a MacBook Pro here, one of the 2010 models I think, and that handles Pro Tools fine, until the sessions start to get large. If you're using a machine with limited RAM and processing power, that'll cause latency. Finally, I'm not sure what sound card you're using, but if it's USB, I think that gives you latency too. I'm using and old MAudio Project Mix I/O, which is a firewire device, and I am getting amazing results with that, plugged into an Allen and Heath Zed-R14 or something, also running that one over USB, so a total of 3 audio devices which I can bring to bear on a project. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Is there a reason why I get a lotta ladency when I insert auto-Tune? I'm trying to lean more away from that plugin as much as I can, but sometimes, I do still use it on rare occasions. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com IMessage/Facetime: theblindmusic...@att.net Windows Live Messenger: ch...@blindperspectives.net Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570 - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Question about monitoring vocals I just input at around -10, and insert the comp while recording, which will crank up the output gain to a desirable level. It's just a matter of preference. I prefer recording with some effects on to help the process along.
Re: Apple's initial response
Just out of interest, are Avid willing to disclose what kind of control they use? If we knew that, then we could pinpoint the problem with Apple in a more targeted fashion possibly. Hath, Sent from my iPhone On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:05, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: No, this is a canned response. Avid is not pointing the finger at all. In fact, as I said, it was a person from Apple who said it appeared to be a bug in VoiceOver. Avid is currently unaware of this particular issue. Slau On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Slau, and now? Apple and Avid are pointing fingers at each other. I haven't send a message to accessibility yet, cause I don't know how to describe the problem exactly. Is it enough to say the counters etc aren't spoken correctly under Mountain Lion while with the same version of pro Tools under Snow Leopard or Lion the items are spoken right? thanks, Ronald Op 13 nov. 2012, om 18:36 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Apple's initial response to me was as follows: Thank you for your email. Apple relies on each application developer to properly implement the necessary components into their applications that allow VoiceOver to work correctly. Unfortunately AVID has not provided an update for ProTools that would allow their software to work correctly with VoiceOver in OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. We recommend that you contact AVID directly to provide them feedback on the features you are finding do not work. Apple Accessibility I responded and copied a couple of people at Apple who initially suggested contacting the accessibility team. I essentially reiterated the fact that Avid did, indeed, do the necessary work and that, since the problem does not exist in Snow Leopard and Lion, it's a problem with VoiceOver and Mountain Lion. I encourage anyone who gets the same canned response to come back with further support of the argument. Slau
Re: For Slau and others: Fw: Problem with accessibility in Mountain Lion
I got the exact response as tother Chris. As you've said, it's a mass produced reply. Sent from my iPhone On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:26, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, Again, Avid is not aware of the issue, it's someone at Apple itself saying it's a VoiceOver issue. That, however, is irrelevant. Don't even bring up that point. Just keep coming back with the facts. I've supplied the link earlier but here it is again: http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Download/Pro-Tools-10-3-2-Downloads This proves that Pro Tools 10.3.2 supports Mountain Lion and they've done the necessary work. Don't relent. Just keep coming back with it. Yes, we'll all get canned responses but keep going at it. Slau On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Hello. I e-mailed Apple Accessibility regarding the issue with the counters, etc. not properly reading, as Slau had suggested that all of us do. Below is their response. In my humble opinion, though I don't want to be the one to shoot the black horse, this is so damn typical of them. I'm so sick of always hearing the same templated script: Oh, it's not our falt. The developer needs to work harder. It's never Apple's falt. Maybe I'm just real hot as there is another onpgoing accessibility issue totally unrelated that they absolutely refuse to cooperate on, but I'm really getting sick and tired, I tell you, of them apparently never ever listenning when people like us who need accessibility implemented always put the raw meat back on the developer. They like thinking they're perfect, and that nothing's ever their flaw until proven otherwise. So, that leads me to my question of writing this mail: how do we then prove it to them, that in this case, they're wrong? I'd trust Slau with this more than I would anyone. If he's talked to Avid, and Avid directly says this isn't a P T issue, but more an underlying issue of OSX, which based on what I'm hearing elseware, does make complete sense, by the way, then I'm gonna be more promed to believe him, than someone who's never probably used ProTools a single day of their life. Sorry for the outburst of frustration. Maybe now I! am the one being extremely unfair, but come on! This is ridiculous, I mean let's just be realistic here. This is not the first time Apple has refused to help with accessibility until we pushed. And who do you think it was back in 2005 roughly with OSX 10.4 Tiger, that convinced them to put a screen reader, which wound up being Voiceover into the OS directly? Oh sure, there was Outspoken before then, and believe me, it worked wonderfully! but, who do you think put the fire under their feet to get on the train, if you will? That's right! the N? F? B. If it wasn't for them back in the days threatenning a lawsuit, now granted, it never came down to that, as Apple unwillingly complied, but that's just it, they did it unwillingly, then clamed they were committed. I'm not so convinced. If you wanna know more my reasonnings, this isn't the list for it. Write me off list, if you want, and I'll furtyher elaberate. Anyway, scroll down below my signature, and you'll find their response.Thank you kindly, Thank you kindly. Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com IMessage/Facetime: theblindmusic...@att.net Windows Live Messenger: ch...@blindperspectives.net Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570 - Original Message - From: accessibil...@apple.com To: ch...@clgproductions.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Problem with accessibility in Mountain Lion Hello, Thank you for your email. Apple relies on each application developer to properly implement the necessary components into their applications that allow VoiceOver to work correctly. Unfortunately AVID has not provided an update for ProTools that would allow their software to work correctly with VoiceOver in OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. We recommend that you contact AVID directly to provide them feedback on the features you are finding do not work. Apple Accessibility Your original message: Hello. Though I understand that this issue may come across as being something you all do not directly support, I genuinely hope and urge you guys here at Apple, to at least look into the situation as best you can. I am a professional musician who has been relying very heavily now for at least 4 years on the use of ProTools from Avid in my home recording environment. Recently, I've expanded and now have a full fledged recording studio which
Re: Apple's initial response
I have Xcode on my laptop. How would I do that? Sent from my iPhone On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, I think you guys should try to pinpoint the issue ui elements with the accessibility inspector that's bundled with x-code. At least you can see what part of the interface has problems, and it even tells you whether the axaccessibility api has been properly coded. Cheers Yuma zato1.jpg Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 8:41 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Yuma, The issue we're trying to draw their attention to is that in the edit window of Pro Tools, counter values (that speak start time, the range you have selected etc) have suddenly started just saying numeric text instead of speaking dynamic information like beat 3, 480 ticks etc. It's also not possible anymore to tell which edit tool you currently have selected with VO, or which edit mode you're in. These things all worked a treat in Snow Leopard and Lion, but have kicked the bucket in ML for some reason even though Avid haven't changed anything at their end. So far, I haven't seen the same behaviour in any other app, so can't imagine what's causing the issue. Nektarios, no, they definitely don't. However, I've lost many many, hours of my life and a big chunk of sanity arguing that point. Currently I have nothing to show for it (other than a sore head from all that repetition and cyber wall banging). Things should be different, but they're not. That's not down to a lack of effort on our part. I'll reply to the email anyway, keep calm and carry on as the saying goes. Scott On 11/13/12, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, could you tell me what the issue with voice over is? I have access to the apple bug reporting system. If i can emulate something similar within one of the standard apps as well, i may be able to have a direct line with the engineers. Let me know Cheers Yuma Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 6:36 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Apple's initial response to me was as follows: Thank you for your email. Apple relies on each application developer to properly implement the necessary components into their applications that allow VoiceOver to work correctly. Unfortunately AVID has not provided an update for ProTools that would allow their software to work correctly with VoiceOver in OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. We recommend that you contact AVID directly to provide them feedback on the features you are finding do not work. Apple Accessibility I responded and copied a couple of people at Apple who initially suggested contacting the accessibility team. I essentially reiterated the fact that Avid did, indeed, do the necessary work and that, since the problem does not exist in Snow Leopard and Lion, it's a problem with VoiceOver and Mountain Lion. I encourage anyone who gets the same canned response to come back with further support of the argument. Slau
Re: Apple's initial response
OK, I found it, and I can happily examine the control. It seems to be telling me it's a button, but then text area is mentioned too. Is there any way to bundle up all the information I found, and send it off to Apple, and / or Avid for analysis? Funnily enough, when I ran a full accessibility analysis of Pro Tools, the only things that kicked off errors were the pan knobs having a press action, and about 140 errors from what looked like Apple's own inputs menu. Cheers, Just downloading xCode on my Lion in Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:54, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Man these people changed the whole structure again, so i have to look for it. Sometimes this company frustrates the hell out of me. zato1.jpg Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 9:44 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: I have Xcode on my laptop. How would I do that? Sent from my iPhone On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, I think you guys should try to pinpoint the issue ui elements with the accessibility inspector that's bundled with x-code. At least you can see what part of the interface has problems, and it even tells you whether the axaccessibility api has been properly coded. Cheers Yuma zato1.jpg Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 8:41 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Yuma, The issue we're trying to draw their attention to is that in the edit window of Pro Tools, counter values (that speak start time, the range you have selected etc) have suddenly started just saying numeric text instead of speaking dynamic information like beat 3, 480 ticks etc. It's also not possible anymore to tell which edit tool you currently have selected with VO, or which edit mode you're in. These things all worked a treat in Snow Leopard and Lion, but have kicked the bucket in ML for some reason even though Avid haven't changed anything at their end. So far, I haven't seen the same behaviour in any other app, so can't imagine what's causing the issue. Nektarios, no, they definitely don't. However, I've lost many many, hours of my life and a big chunk of sanity arguing that point. Currently I have nothing to show for it (other than a sore head from all that repetition and cyber wall banging). Things should be different, but they're not. That's not down to a lack of effort on our part. I'll reply to the email anyway, keep calm and carry on as the saying goes. Scott On 11/13/12, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, could you tell me what the issue with voice over is? I have access to the apple bug reporting system. If i can emulate something similar within one of the standard apps as well, i may be able to have a direct line with the engineers. Let me know Cheers Yuma Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 6:36 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Apple's initial response to me was as follows: Thank you for your email. Apple relies on each application developer to properly implement the necessary components into their applications that allow VoiceOver to work correctly. Unfortunately AVID has not provided an update for ProTools that would allow their software to work correctly with VoiceOver in OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. We recommend that you contact AVID directly to provide them feedback
Re: Apple's initial response
Well, the reason I mention Avid is simple. If Apple start looking at the flood of reports about the same bug, all pertaining to Pro Tools, they'll do what they've done already, and try and palm it off on Avid. If they continue to get the bug returned to them, and the look into it, I'm sure they have actual programmers who really understand the stuff this tool is telling me, and what it's saying, is that Pro Tools isn't exactly squeaky clean. A few accessibility descriptions here and there, and so it gives them more reason to try and pass the book to Avid. I have already emailed Apple about it, and as I previously said, got the same response as Chris, and you Slau, and presumably everyone else who's emailed them, but I don't think we should hold Apple soully responsible for this problem, just because your friend, who is remaining nameless, told you it's a bug on Apple's end. I have no clue about the stuff I'm seeing, but it still can't hurt, if this information is packageable, to send it to Avid, and point out that although most likely, the edit values are an Apple bug, Pro Tools does have some accessibility flaws, which Apple will likely want sorting before it'll even consider the possibility that it's largest piece of software has a bug. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 13 Nov 2012, at 22:06, Slau Halatyn wrote: Please, forget about Avid. As I said several times, this has nothing to do with them. Focus on Apple. Thanks, Slau On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Chris Norman wrote: OK, I found it, and I can happily examine the control. It seems to be telling me it's a button, but then text area is mentioned too. Is there any way to bundle up all the information I found, and send it off to Apple, and / or Avid for analysis? Funnily enough, when I ran a full accessibility analysis of Pro Tools, the only things that kicked off errors were the pan knobs having a press action, and about 140 errors from what looked like Apple's own inputs menu. Cheers, Just downloading xCode on my Lion in Take care, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:54, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Man these people changed the whole structure again, so i have to look for it. Sometimes this company frustrates the hell out of me. zato1.jpg Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 9:44 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: I have Xcode on my laptop. How would I do that? Sent from my iPhone On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, I think you guys should try to pinpoint the issue ui elements with the accessibility inspector that's bundled with x-code. At least you can see what part of the interface has problems, and it even tells you whether the axaccessibility api has been properly coded. Cheers Yuma zato1.jpg Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data retention. On 14/11/2012, at 8:41 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Yuma, The issue we're trying to draw their attention to is that in the edit window of Pro Tools, counter values (that speak start time, the range you have selected etc) have suddenly started just saying numeric text instead of speaking dynamic information like beat 3, 480 ticks etc. It's also not possible anymore to tell which edit tool you currently have selected with VO, or which edit mode you're in. These things all worked a treat in Snow Leopard and Lion, but have kicked the bucket in ML for some reason even though Avid haven't changed anything at their end. So far, I haven't seen the same behaviour in any other app, so can't imagine what's causing the issue. Nektarios, no, they definitely don't. However, I've lost many many, hours of my life and a big chunk of sanity arguing that point. Currently I have nothing to show for it (other than a sore head from all that repetition and cyber wall
Re: Question about monitoring vocals
OK, no offense, but I got bored of reading half way through the message, but here it is: I'm not a pro, but I always thought you got the original signal as loud as possible without clipping. Personally, I head for as close to 0db on that gain indicator as possible, usually stopping level testing at about -3db, to account for the fact that people usually sing louder with the backing in their ears. No clue how you get anything done at -10db, but maybe I'm completely wrong. If that's still not loud enough, turn the fader right up, no one cares of that fuzzes, then, if you still don't have enough, once you've got your initial level set, compress away, use the fatten or brick wall presets, and you should be fine. Anyways, sorry if I missed your point, but all the extra jabber you put in your messages means about 50 paragraphs of whatever whatever, this is completely by the point, and I'm bored out of my mind, but I think paragraph 3 said it all. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 14 Nov 2012, at 02:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this may seem like quite an elementary question, and a lot of you probably are gonna look at me and think I'm nuts for asking, but here's my situation. I have a pare of head phones which I've been using for a while now. I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you guies. They're IFrogs. They're not studio-grade by any theory of the spectrom. I do have a pare that is studio grade, that probably in the days costed roughly 3 or 400 bucks, but those things literally speaking are about 20 years old, and have gone through so much wear and tare that the headband is becoming loose, and the left ear piece is drooping down off my ear, no matter how many times I readjust it's hinge. Anyway, that's totally aside the point... Basically, here's the deal. The IFrogs I have are sort of noise cancelling, but not really. You'd think this would be a good thing in some cases, but it actually's not helping matters. The thing is, even with them on, my voice, whether singing, or talking is not hardly canceled/muffled at all. Because of this, I've honestly just learned to get used to the problem I'm facing, and play devils advocate, and just say whatever, I'll deal with it. Basically, the thing is, I always process my vocals *after!* I have them recorded. Never during. I find that if I try to do it in realtime, for one, I can't always until the vocal track is totally laid down determine what things need to be tweeked. The problem however is, when I was tought initially by Kevin, as well as others about recording vocals, I was told you always always always! want to record at a low level, then use gain compensation like a limiter, or say, a compressor etc. to bring the level up to adiquit range. With this said, my technique personally, is I always try keeping my vocals on the input level somewhere in the neighborhood of -12 to -10 at the most, DB. I'm talking about the level that I see just immediately one vo+right arrow to the right of the volume up down slider on each track. I try not to let it peek above -10 at the absolutely most, and really, that's for me even a bit overkill. Normally, I shoot for around -12 if I can get within several decimal ranges from there, like 12-3, or 12.5, somewhere around there. Obviously, this is before I apply any dynamics, or e queueing or the like. The issue is, once I hit shift+R to arm my track for recording, obviously, at that level of -12DB, I'm hardly gonna hear anything through my monitors. I know I could turn up the headphone monitor dial on my interface, but even doing that, I'm having to run it darned near wide open to hear anything. Yeah, I can run the output volume slider on the track in PT up to a higher level, but even with it as high as it'll go at +12DB, it's barely audible until I run vocal compression. Basically I use the compresser/limiter dyns3 plugin, and I change none of the parameters, but I use the vocal leveler preset, which is under the librarian menu inside the vocals sub menu. Even doing that though, I'm having to run my level almost to +12DB on the slider on the track strip within PT. Not that that is a problem, as I can run the music way down, to meet that of the vocal, then just pop a master fader and bring everything back up in the final mix, but the problem is with my monitorring through the headphones. Being that without processing anything, I hardly can hear my vocals at all, and if I make it loud enough that I can, then I clip like the holy virgin Mary! Parden the pun for you religious folks... LOL! I just don't exactly know how would be best to work around this. I'm using a Blue Bluebird microphone without the shockmount, as my stand won't support it, plus the windscreen that came with the mike. Then I'm using phantom power through
Re: Question about Bouncing
As far as I know, there is only realtime bouncing with PT. Logic will do offline bouncing, but obviously you'd still have to realtime bounce your project. HTH. Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 12 Nov 2012, at 23:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I know that most of you are really gonna probably advise against me doing this, but I have my reasons. Basically I have a session which I need to bounce to an mp3. The thing is, I don't have a lotta time. I know beyond a doubt the session sounds exactly as I want it to in the final bounced mp3. Is there not a way that I can bounce this down without it playing the session back while bouncing? I mean ok, I see perfectly the benefits for having p t do it that way, but some times that can really become extra ordinarily tedious. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com IMessage/Facetime: theblindmusic...@att.net Windows Live Messenger: ch...@blindperspectives.net Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570
Re: an update regarding my meeting with Avid
As usual, excellent work mate, and thank you for all you're continuing to do to keep PT accessible. As someone just diving into XCode, accessibility does seem to be slightly less self-explanitory than I thought, so fair play to the boys at Avid. Anyways, the interface builder is a cruel mistress, and I've gotta go try make her play ball with me. Good night, and I hope delayed flights were the only bad side affect of the high winds. Have fun, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 10 Nov 2012, at 23:07, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Forgive the delay but I wanted to update the list on my meeting with Avid. I'll offer a more detailed explanation in a few days. For now, let me say that the meeting went well and was well attended. Among the many changes at Avid, there have been a few changes to key people in charge of Pro Tools. I believe, in this case, it happens to work in our favor. Again, I'll explain in more detail in a few days. For now, I'm waiting for a couple of things to be coordinated before I go into detail about the meeting and what we might expect in the near future. On a side note, I was scheduled to come back from san Francisco on Sunday, October 28. Unfortunately, because of Hurricane Sandy, my flight was cancelled and thus I was forced to stay in San Francisco an extra 4 days. While there are worse places to be stuck, there are also cheaper places to be stuck, for sure. I'd like to think it was money well spent. Anyway, I've been playing catch-up since then. Things are getting back to normal so give me a few more days and I'll share more. Best, Slau
Re: quantizing a instrument track
When you've recorded, make sure the instrument track is selected by pressing shift s while it plays. This will solo the currently selected track. If it is not the right one, then either use control p (move up), or control ; (move down), to move to it. Or, find your track table in the mix window, and VoiceOver space on the correct track. Then, go to the Edit window, with command =, and select the bits you want to quantize, with any of the following methods: * Use numpad= followed by a number to move to the right place and press either shift enter to select from that point to the beginning of the track, or option shift enter to select to the end. * Press numpad /, followed by the start position, then numpad / again, followed by the end position, finalised with enter to make the selection. * Or you can just press enter to go to the start of the track, and press Option Shift Enter to highlight to the end of the track. Then, press option 0. Your quantize box will come up. You're looking for the popup called Combined Quantize. VoiceOver space on this, then find the devision you want, for example, 1/4, 1/8, etc. Below the list of timings, are some extra options, like dotted, and a bunch of other settings. When you've got the settings you want, hit numpad enter, followed by regular enter. Now your track should be quantized. If you want to do deeper MIDI editing, you can VoiceOver shift m on the name of the track in the tracks table in the mix window, then scrole down to Export midi, then edit the resulting MIDI file in your prefered MIDI sequencer. Hope this helps, because I'm nackered, and trying desperately to make sense LOL. Have fun. On 01/10/2012, chadbaker2 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i played in time with the metronome but when i played it back its off and is there anyway to quantize while recording i tried the input quantize but voiceover didn't read the contents of the window i tried the option 0 quantize but its grayed out i had a sighted friend check for me -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Changing key of Instrument Track
Bounce it to midi (possibly right click the track name in the track list). Then load it into QWS in Windows, and transpose it, or at a push, you could bring it into Logic, and move each note in the piano role. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 20 Sep 2012, at 13:33, Jon Solitro soli...@msu.edu wrote: I have an instrument track in PT 8.04 for a piano part of a song. HOw do I bring it up a step and a half?
For anyone who cares about Logic accessibility
I'm painfully aware of how off topic this is, so I'll keep it breef. I found a thread on the Apple Support Forum about Logic Pro 10. It started off as someone moaning it wasn't released yet, but got down to more productive conversation later on, so I chipped in, and said I'd like to see Logic 10 work better with VoiceOver. Then an interesting thing happened, and a load of sighted people chimed in and agree for some really interesting reasons. Anyways, here's the link for anyone interested in mentioning stuff. Way I see it, more people who say about it, the better. https://discussions.apple.com/message/18830814#18830814 -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: importing wav files into pro tools 10
I thought that when you did that, and pressed done, or open, or which ever button it is, you were presented with a folder select dialogue, where you can select which folders to store the files in. HTH, On 10/09/2012, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I downloaded all of Kevin Reeves's remix wavs and am trying to import them into pro tools 10 where the files are coppied into the session audio files folder and can get as far as after I have all of them selected and import them they appear in the track list but regardless of what button I press they all stay in the downloads folder and don't go into the session's folder where I want them to go. Anyone with pro tools 10 can you help me out please? What do I need to do after selecting all tracks or all wav files to have pro tools 10.1 place the new files into the audio files folder and not just link them to the session? Nick Gawronski -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: For anyone who cares about Logic accessibility
That would be great. And, just before I close this grosely off-topic with my full appologies, does anyone have a link for the Logic Access group? I'm sure there was one, and I'd like to find my way onto it. Cheers, On 10/09/2012, Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com wrote: For the record its the very last thread or if it gets longer, page 6 of that thread that Chris is refering to. A thread on which there seems to be an extreme lack of anyone to do with Apple or logic for that matter. At least a couple more people vaguely acknowledged the need for Voice over. I can't imagine them mixing blind ever though, people like talking about that concept, but the second I switch off the moniter in my control room people begin to freak completely, God forbid I were to remove it altogether, cause it really is getting in the way of those sound waves I'm trying to work on. The trouble with pushing for logic accessability is that its not obvious where to push. If the regular and even die hard logic users are dismayed at lack of communication well then things don't look so positive. I might drop a word to a friend working at Apple and see if he could open up any routes of communication. o at least find out if they are working on Voice over compatability on such aps. Brian. -- From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:31 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: For anyone who cares about Logic accessibility I'm painfully aware of how off topic this is, so I'll keep it breef. I found a thread on the Apple Support Forum about Logic Pro 10. It started off as someone moaning it wasn't released yet, but got down to more productive conversation later on, so I chipped in, and said I'd like to see Logic 10 work better with VoiceOver. Then an interesting thing happened, and a load of sighted people chimed in and agree for some really interesting reasons. Anyways, here's the link for anyone interested in mentioning stuff. Way I see it, more people who say about it, the better. https://discussions.apple.com/message/18830814#18830814 -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: addictive drums question
The native installer is accessible, but you need to use XLN's online installer to get the latest software, and to register your product it seems. Cheers, On 7 Sep 2012, at 17:47, Kevin Reeves wrote: The installer I have is completely accessible. Not sure what's going on with your friend's setup. Kevin
Addictive Drums Again
Hiya Kevin, Sorry, don't have your address on here, could you tell me how I should be saving these Addictive Drums presets please? I've got it installed, and possibly even registered LOL. Cheers,
Re: addictive drums question
Luckily, I have a lovely girlfriend who helped me to register it, but I'm not sure we were entirely successful. Keving wrote in a bit ago about a way to do the presets, which I was trying to emulate this morning, but it didn't seem to work. Not sure if that was because my software wasn't registered or what, but I'll keep trying. Have fun, On 6 Sep 2012, at 16:54, chadbaker2 wrote: hi i am trying the demo of addictive drums just wondering is the full version easy to register with voiceover and wondering how we can access presets i like the drums
Re: addictive drums question
Possibly. My girlfriend doesn't really know what she's looking at. But we'll try again when we don't have such a house full. Sent from my iPhone On 6 Sep 2012, at 23:23, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, are you guys needing sighted help to install addictive drums? Afriend of mine tried installing the free version, but didn't find the web installer all that accessible. On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Luckily, I have a lovely girlfriend who helped me to register it, but I'm not sure we were entirely successful. Keving wrote in a bit ago about a way to do the presets, which I was trying to emulate this morning, but it didn't seem to work. Not sure if that was because my software wasn't registered or what, but I'll keep trying. Have fun, On 6 Sep 2012, at 16:54, chadbaker2 wrote: hi i am trying the demo of addictive drums just wondering is the full version easy to register with voiceover and wondering how we can access presets i like the drums
Re: fast track pro issues
Going to go out on a limb here, how about checking in System Profiler or whatever it's called to see if it shows up under audio devices? If you go to your apple menu with Control Option M, then down to about this mac, then over to More Information. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 3 Sep 2012, at 11:23, chadbaker2 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i'm running pt mp9 and my fast track pro isn't recognized i checked the cable that's fine cause it works fine on my roland keyboard and i have the latest driver installed i had a sighted friend check for me the light comes on when powered on in system preferences m-audio isn't showing up its under warranty i think something wrong with it any suggestions thanks
Finalising and VoiceOver
Hiya all, What finalising plugins do you all use? and which ones are good with VoiceOver? Cheers, -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Creating... no pun intended... Retards
I'm not actually sure that retard is the right word to use, although it is a pretty funny one. Way you do it is, select the bits you want to slow down, either by using down / up arrow to mark, or using numpad /, then go to your event menu, go to the Tempo opperations menu, then chose one of the modes. Mine's showing Linear etc, which is the one I use for such things. Go into there, and your start / end should already be set, then just mouse click on the start field, and fill in the initial tempo (it defaults to the initial project tempo on my system, so I guess the same is true of yours. Then mouse click on any other fields you want to change, press numberpad enter, then normal enter I think to finish it off. HTH. On 2 Sep 2012, at 21:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Please please parden the word, as I know to many including myself, it can be very very offensivbe if taken out of context. I have a country song I'm trying to record. At the end of it, like, the last 2 or 3 measures, there is a gradual retard in the tempo. Again, no pun intended. What is the easiest way in P T 10.0 to get my click track to follow the retard and properly change my tempo where I need for it to? Chris.
Re: Does Pro Tools have a lock track function
Ah, and replaced with this AAX stuff? sounds good to me LOL, I really want amp farm! :-) On 31/08/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: The idea is that TDM will be phased out in time. slau On Aug 30, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Ah brilliant, thank you. Also, I'm thinking this is a stupid question, but just want to check, if a plugin is TDM only, Amp Farm for example, does that mean it can only be used on Pro Tools HD systems? Cheers, On 31 Aug 2012, at 00:42, Slau Halatyn wrote: Route the output of your track to an unused bus. Create a new audio track and set its input to that bus. Record enable the new track and play the session or the selection range in which that track is active. Make your initial track inactive or unassign its voice. Alternatively, you can just delete it as well. HTH, Slau -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML
Nope, afraid not, I just tried it now. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com On 30 Aug 2012, at 16:24, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Eak, that's a biggy! Does resetting them with Option-C make any difference? Highly doubt it, but best to check. Scott On 8/30/12, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi All, Sorry, I couldn't find the old thread to post this in, so my bad, but I found another problem with Pro Tools and OS X MountainLion which I thought Slau especially should be aware of as you're talking to Avid. The input meters aren't reading properly either. Whereas on Lion and (I imagine) SL, they used to tell you how close to clipping the signal is, now they just say Level Meter. Hope this helps, and sorry again for posting in the wrong thread. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com
Does Pro Tools have a lock track function
Hiya All, I have a project which has just topped my computer's CPU off. It has a couple of software instrument tracks, and a lot of Eleven Free plugins. I can't even get it to play the opening bars LOL. So, I was wondering: Does Pro Tools have a lock track function like Garage Band does? I seem to remember Lock Tracks gave you the ability to bounce a single track to disc, so it wouldn't be processed. This seems like a really simple feature, so I'm just wondering if Pro Tools can do the same. Cheers, and have fun.
Re: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML
You're right, but there was a big thread on all of this. I meerly resurrected it so Slau can make a lovely list to show our friends at Avid. On the bright side though, when interacting with Plugin parameters, you can now hear the correct value that you're changing too, rather than the previous one LOL, and everything is over all smoother. Just looking forward to Avid sorting their stuff out. Cheers, On 30 Aug 2012, at 21:41, J Clements wrote: I would not recommend using Mountain Lion on a recording/mixing machine. In my experience, upgrading your OS before it is tested and certified by every single software vendor that your studio is dependent upon has never been a safe move. I have many friends who are not recording engineers that have trouble with simple usage of their go-to applications with ML, and plugin makers and hardware drivers usually take a bit to catch up with Apple's changes. I just started using Lion. John Clements On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Chi Kim chigook...@hotmail.com wrote: I have the same problem on my machine running PT 10.01 on ML 10.8.1. Also, VO doesn't tell me if record, solo, and mute are on or not. Good thing to have PT with Lion partition. -- John Clements jclement...@gmail.com 401-835-6050
Re: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML
Yeah, they do, because I got Lion on the other third of this MacBook Pro LOL. On 31 Aug 2012, at 00:46, Scott Chesworth wrote: Confirmed, they defo did read in Lion. On 8/30/12, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Chris Norman wrote: Hi All, Sorry, I couldn't find the old thread to post this in, so my bad, but I found another problem with Pro Tools and OS X MountainLion which I thought Slau especially should be aware of as you're talking to Avid. The input meters aren't reading properly either. Whereas on Lion and (I imagine) SL, they used to tell you how close to clipping the signal is, now they just say Level Meter. Hope this helps, and sorry again for posting in the wrong thread. Chris, The meters do read in Snow Leopard and, I suspect, in Lion. Let's see what happens when Pro Tools supports Mountain Lion. Slau Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman. chris.norm...@googlemail.com
Re: Does Pro Tools have a lock track function
Ah brilliant, thank you. Also, I'm thinking this is a stupid question, but just want to check, if a plugin is TDM only, Amp Farm for example, does that mean it can only be used on Pro Tools HD systems? Cheers, On 31 Aug 2012, at 00:42, Slau Halatyn wrote: Route the output of your track to an unused bus. Create a new audio track and set its input to that bus. Record enable the new track and play the session or the selection range in which that track is active. Make your initial track inactive or unassign its voice. Alternatively, you can just delete it as well. HTH, Slau
Re: Is anyone interested in doing this?
I'd love to take part. Perhaps take it off list, and get another list started? Promises to be a lot of fun. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Aug 2012, at 23:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, let me start by saying, this is *NOT!* a contest, nor! has this got any prise assicated with it. NO one's gonna do this for money, or anything of the like. This is gonna be just a bunch of us blind individuals getting together and doing something we love... recording/playing/mixing, in one of the best DAWS out there... ProTools, just for the fun of doing it. I'm thinking of taking the song, The Rose, by Bette Middler, and doing the piano part of it. Then, what I'll do, is provide you all a direct link on Dropbox to the zipped file of the PT session. It will have nothing but piano only. I'd then like to see what you all can do with it. Maybe have one person put down a base guitar line, have someone put down a drum part, maybe someone put an orchestrated part with strings, horns, whatever you see fit, another person could record the lead vocal, be it man or lady, it doesn't matter, I'll be doing it in the key of C, so it won't be too high either way, nor too low, maybe have someone lay the drums down, then maybe have someone finally listen to the final session when done, and mix it, and bounce to an mp3. Then, if kevin wants to, he could even put the final mp3 up on the p t access blog. I'm asking here first, as I know a lot of you do this stuff for a living and have more important higher paid priorities to deal with before you take something like this on, however, remember for one thing, I'm not asking anyone to do the whole song. If we do this, I want it to be a group effort. Each person who agrees to add something to it, won't be doing so cause they have to, nor are obligated to, but because they think this could actually be really fun. Also remember you're only gonna be doing one part. OK, you might wind up doing two vocal parts or so if you're doing the backing vocal, but then maybe not, you may just do one backing part and leave someone else to do another part if they want to. I dono where it would go. I just wanna see what people here can do, and hopefully make a masterpiece out of this in the long run. I'm asking here first though, as I don't wanna take this on at all, until I know that I at least have a couple of people who're willing to promise that they'll at least attempt to take it on. I don't have any timeframe for this either. It's not like this has to be done in a week's time. If it takes 2 weeks, so what? If it tkaes a month, so what? If it takes 2 months, so what? This isn't a race against the clock. So, let me know if you all are interested. If so, I'll start with the piano part, and get it uploaded. Chris.
Re: OK guys, I'm finally installing Ivory
I'm guessing just put the contents in your pt plugins folder, but not sure. Hth, Sent from my iPhone On 28 Aug 2012, at 10:10, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I finally got a free day that I can sit down and get Ivory installed. Man, this sucker's a beast! Until I opened the thing up, I didn't realize all that thickness to the package was DVD's. Holy! crap! There's gotta be at least 10 of 'em in here! Man, Brian, you weren't kidding! when you told me it was huge! At any rate, I still have the presets that Gord sent me. I now just need to know how I go about getting them into my ProTools 10.0, once I get Ivory installed hopefully by this afternoon. Basically, then after getting them imported, do I just pop the plugin on an insert of a stereo instrument track, then look in my librarian menu, or will these settings also render the perametors accessible. I just need a little brief guide on what to do with this zip file, in order to get it up and runnin. Thanks for you all's help, can't tell yall how much I appreciate it! Chris.
Re: Addictive Drums
It works like any other software instrument from what I can tell. And, also, while you're reading this Kevin, in case my last mail went to your spam or something, if I want to submit articals for your website, what format do you want them in? Cheers all, On 26/08/2012, Stephen Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: so if i understand correctly, addictive, slate drums, easy drummer, and etc, are programs that give you each individual part of a kit mapped to midi so you can use a keyboard, or other midi controller to *play* out the drum parts, then convert them to audio for mixing and etc. Just wanted to make sure i understood fully what these apps do. So is addictive drums the one thats most accessible or is there another reason for going with it? On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: Addictive is an amazing program and totally worth it. I will gladly send you my GB presets so you can play with it. On Aug 25, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Well Kevin, if you think it is worthwhile doing, I'll buy Addictive next month, then I'll start doing them for ya. Chers. On 26 Aug 2012, at 00:43, Kevin Reeves wrote: I created all the presets, but there for GarageBand and logic. However, the trick is to rename each preset to start up. Then, reload the plug-in and save out that preset as its original name. It took me about a week to do all of the presets in spurts. If somebody wants to take this on I'll walk him through it. Then, I can post those to the website. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hiya All, Has anyone used Addictive Drums with Pro Tools and VoiceOver? I can access all the plugin parameters, and alter them, but I cannot change drum sounds. Looking through the Addictive Drums folder in my Application Support folder, there do seem to be presets, but they're in an Addictive Drums native format, so I cannot import them into Pro Tools. Does anyone have a set of presets made up already from the standard ones? or am I completely missing the point? Cheers, -- Chris. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Addictive Drums
Hiya All, Has anyone used Addictive Drums with Pro Tools and VoiceOver? I can access all the plugin parameters, and alter them, but I cannot change drum sounds. Looking through the Addictive Drums folder in my Application Support folder, there do seem to be presets, but they're in an Addictive Drums native format, so I cannot import them into Pro Tools. Does anyone have a set of presets made up already from the standard ones? or am I completely missing the point? Cheers, -- Chris.
Re: Addictive Drums
Well Kevin, if you think it is worthwhile doing, I'll buy Addictive next month, then I'll start doing them for ya. Chers. On 26 Aug 2012, at 00:43, Kevin Reeves wrote: I created all the presets, but there for GarageBand and logic. However, the trick is to rename each preset to start up. Then, reload the plug-in and save out that preset as its original name. It took me about a week to do all of the presets in spurts. If somebody wants to take this on I'll walk him through it. Then, I can post those to the website. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hiya All, Has anyone used Addictive Drums with Pro Tools and VoiceOver? I can access all the plugin parameters, and alter them, but I cannot change drum sounds. Looking through the Addictive Drums folder in my Application Support folder, there do seem to be presets, but they're in an Addictive Drums native format, so I cannot import them into Pro Tools. Does anyone have a set of presets made up already from the standard ones? or am I completely missing the point? Cheers, -- Chris.
Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion
Hiya, think I messed up the sending of this email, but if not, sorry for the double post. Firstly, Slau, it's no worries mate, I just wasn't sure if you were being tongue in cheek or not, but I thought I'd better lay it on a plate so there was no ambiguity. :-) J R, I am using Pro Tools 10 on my meager setup, and it works fine. The only real show stopper is that the plugins have all been converted to the AAX format, which I'm sure is lovely, but it renders the configurable parameters completely unconfigurable LOL. It is worth noting that not all plugins are in AAX, XPand for example, is still an RTAS, so it works fine, as are a few others. The isn't usually that much of a problem anyways, because there's a whole plethora of presets to choose from, but for example, with the Normalise Audio Sweet plugin, there's no presets, so I cannot normalise my stuff. Anyways, hope that's cleared up some stuff. On 22/08/2012, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: Slau, Can you briefly tell me why you have concerns about PT10? I used it a few months back for my class for recording and editing and it pretty much did as I expected. The isues I ran into were related to areas that had problems under both v9 and v10. Sorry if this is being stupid or whatever I'm just curious since I actually have the real versions of both and licenses for them as well. Thanks in advance and if it seems better go ahead and write me off list. Best, J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:00 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion Hi Naama, Absolutely, you'll need either Snow Leopard or Lion for now. Also, Pro Tools 9 would be recommended. Anything higher than 8.0.4 is fine but, if at all possible, try to stay away from version 10. If it has to be 10, then that's workable too. slau On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Naama Samantha Shang wrote: Hi Slau, So I just want to make sure I'm clear - as soon as my work machine arrives, do I downgrade to Lion before anything else, to avoid problems? Thanks, Naama -- Naama Samantha Shang Audio Technician Talking Book Library Natanya, Israel +972-9-861-7110 na...@clfb.org.il -- From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:51 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion No sarcasm at all. I just didn't want to misunderstand anything since I currently don't use Mountain Lion. The vagaries of communication lead to misunderstandings and I just needed to absolutely sure that at least one person was categorically unable to read the start field with PT 10 under Mountain Lion. Cheers, Slau On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Chris Norman wrote: Haha, not sure if that was sarcasm or not, but no worries anyways. On 21/08/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: OK, thanks for confirming that in no uncertain terms. Cheers On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Chris Norman wrote: OK, lemme try and lay this out as clearly and fully as I know it. I can't try pt 9 on Mountain Lion, or I would, but with PT10: In the edit window, when you interact with the counter display, none of the values there will read. That is to say, the start, current, and end selection boxes. They just say text or something like that. As people have said, the same is true of the edit boxes in the tempo settings, and I'd bet it's the same in the time signature configuration thingy too. I'd be willing to put money on it being the text fields that Avid use, that require you to use the numberpad to enter data. Other than that, everything else is working healthily, hardware, etc, etc, etc. Cheers, and hope that clears it up a bit Slau. If you need to know anything else, please let me know. Cheers, On 20/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, You can also try going to the events menu and tempo and constant tempo, you see it does the same thing there. Infact you will notice it does the same in all edit fields in all of the different event dialog boxes. The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:01 PM, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: Interact with the counters area and there are several there. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:59 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion Hi, Where should I go in pro tools to see if these fields work as I am still in the process of learning pro tools? I should be able to let you know if the proper fields read if I am told where to go and I will also try it on my lion installation to see the difference. Nick Gawronski On 8
Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion
Ah, so refreshing to know it's not just me that's a complete thick when it comes to the plugin parameters for that bad boy! :P On 22/08/2012, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: I thought that was the issue but wanted to make sure. I just used the xpand2 and default stuff for my capstone. Buying the extras right now is just a bit out of reach even as a student. LOL -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Norman Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:59 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion Hiya, think I messed up the sending of this email, but if not, sorry for the double post. Firstly, Slau, it's no worries mate, I just wasn't sure if you were being tongue in cheek or not, but I thought I'd better lay it on a plate so there was no ambiguity. :-) J R, I am using Pro Tools 10 on my meager setup, and it works fine. The only real show stopper is that the plugins have all been converted to the AAX format, which I'm sure is lovely, but it renders the configurable parameters completely unconfigurable LOL. It is worth noting that not all plugins are in AAX, XPand for example, is still an RTAS, so it works fine, as are a few others. The isn't usually that much of a problem anyways, because there's a whole plethora of presets to choose from, but for example, with the Normalise Audio Sweet plugin, there's no presets, so I cannot normalise my stuff. Anyways, hope that's cleared up some stuff. On 22/08/2012, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: Slau, Can you briefly tell me why you have concerns about PT10? I used it a few months back for my class for recording and editing and it pretty much did as I expected. The isues I ran into were related to areas that had problems under both v9 and v10. Sorry if this is being stupid or whatever I'm just curious since I actually have the real versions of both and licenses for them as well. Thanks in advance and if it seems better go ahead and write me off list. Best, J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:00 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion Hi Naama, Absolutely, you'll need either Snow Leopard or Lion for now. Also, Pro Tools 9 would be recommended. Anything higher than 8.0.4 is fine but, if at all possible, try to stay away from version 10. If it has to be 10, then that's workable too. slau On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Naama Samantha Shang wrote: Hi Slau, So I just want to make sure I'm clear - as soon as my work machine arrives, do I downgrade to Lion before anything else, to avoid problems? Thanks, Naama -- Naama Samantha Shang Audio Technician Talking Book Library Natanya, Israel +972-9-861-7110 na...@clfb.org.il -- From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:51 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion No sarcasm at all. I just didn't want to misunderstand anything since I currently don't use Mountain Lion. The vagaries of communication lead to misunderstandings and I just needed to absolutely sure that at least one person was categorically unable to read the start field with PT 10 under Mountain Lion. Cheers, Slau On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Chris Norman wrote: Haha, not sure if that was sarcasm or not, but no worries anyways. On 21/08/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: OK, thanks for confirming that in no uncertain terms. Cheers On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Chris Norman wrote: OK, lemme try and lay this out as clearly and fully as I know it. I can't try pt 9 on Mountain Lion, or I would, but with PT10: In the edit window, when you interact with the counter display, none of the values there will read. That is to say, the start, current, and end selection boxes. They just say text or something like that. As people have said, the same is true of the edit boxes in the tempo settings, and I'd bet it's the same in the time signature configuration thingy too. I'd be willing to put money on it being the text fields that Avid use, that require you to use the numberpad to enter data. Other than that, everything else is working healthily, hardware, etc, etc, etc. Cheers, and hope that clears it up a bit Slau. If you need to know anything else, please let me know. Cheers, On 20/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, You can also try going to the events menu and tempo and constant tempo, you see it does the same thing there. Infact you will notice it does the same in all edit fields in all of the different event dialog boxes. The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:01 PM, J. R
Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion
Haha, not sure if that was sarcasm or not, but no worries anyways. On 21/08/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: OK, thanks for confirming that in no uncertain terms. Cheers On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Chris Norman wrote: OK, lemme try and lay this out as clearly and fully as I know it. I can't try pt 9 on Mountain Lion, or I would, but with PT10: In the edit window, when you interact with the counter display, none of the values there will read. That is to say, the start, current, and end selection boxes. They just say text or something like that. As people have said, the same is true of the edit boxes in the tempo settings, and I'd bet it's the same in the time signature configuration thingy too. I'd be willing to put money on it being the text fields that Avid use, that require you to use the numberpad to enter data. Other than that, everything else is working healthily, hardware, etc, etc, etc. Cheers, and hope that clears it up a bit Slau. If you need to know anything else, please let me know. Cheers, On 20/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, You can also try going to the events menu and tempo and constant tempo, you see it does the same thing there. Infact you will notice it does the same in all edit fields in all of the different event dialog boxes. The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:01 PM, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: Interact with the counters area and there are several there. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:59 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion Hi, Where should I go in pro tools to see if these fields work as I am still in the process of learning pro tools? I should be able to let you know if the proper fields read if I am told where to go and I will also try it on my lion installation to see the difference. Nick Gawronski On 8/19/2012 6:41 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Nick, Can you read the Start field in the edit window under Mountain Lion in Pro Tools 10? Slau On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, Some edit fields read fine like the file names to save projects as and when you bounce tracks to files. I am using mountain lion but do have lion still around should I need it. I think it is possible to down grade to lion if you need to but don't know if the newer mac books will support the down grade. My digi 003 works fine under mountain lion and I did not need to reinstall anything. The only thing I had to reinstall was the drivers for my express card for my sata drive and that was not even an upgrade I just opened the folder where I had the pkg file and ran it and things now work great again. Nick Gawronski On 8/18/2012 10:15 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: So, am I understanding this correctly? With Mountain Lion, no edit fields are being read in Pro Tools versions 9 and 10? Can someone else confirm this? Version 10 reads fine with Snow Leopard and Lion, from other accounts. On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:07 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Hello, It appears to be an edit field where there would be text you could edit or change thats not reading in ML with PT10. This issue doesn't happen with PT 9 or 10 on lion. And if i remember correctly PT 9 on ML had the same issue. As i was planning to keep my air running PT 9 in case i ran into any showstoppers in version 10. But when i upgraded my air to ml i realiezed none of the edit fields read at all. That was when i upgraded to version 10 on ML to se if it would fix the issue. So if appears for now If pro tools is an everyday necessity at the very least you will need to keep a lion partition around for a little bit. The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't updated my HD system to version 10 but, since I also have a 003, I decided to update my regular LE version to 10. I'd like to clear something up and I will need verification of something: I'm running Pro Tools version 10 on Snow Leopard and there are no issues with any counter displays not reading. Now, I don't have Mountain Lion and will not run it for some time. Can someone verify, specifically, where counters are not reading properly? Even in Mountain Lion, that would be fairly strange, that is, for a text display to not read correctly. That said, technically, Mountain Lion is not approved for Pro Tools so I'm not concerned.yet. Again, someone with Mountain Lion and Pro Tools 10, please let me know precisely where a counter display doesn't read correctly where it used to read correctly in Snow Leopard or Lion. Thanks, Slau -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care
Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion
OK, lemme try and lay this out as clearly and fully as I know it. I can't try pt 9 on Mountain Lion, or I would, but with PT10: In the edit window, when you interact with the counter display, none of the values there will read. That is to say, the start, current, and end selection boxes. They just say text or something like that. As people have said, the same is true of the edit boxes in the tempo settings, and I'd bet it's the same in the time signature configuration thingy too. I'd be willing to put money on it being the text fields that Avid use, that require you to use the numberpad to enter data. Other than that, everything else is working healthily, hardware, etc, etc, etc. Cheers, and hope that clears it up a bit Slau. If you need to know anything else, please let me know. Cheers, On 20/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, You can also try going to the events menu and tempo and constant tempo, you see it does the same thing there. Infact you will notice it does the same in all edit fields in all of the different event dialog boxes. The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:01 PM, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: Interact with the counters area and there are several there. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:59 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion Hi, Where should I go in pro tools to see if these fields work as I am still in the process of learning pro tools? I should be able to let you know if the proper fields read if I am told where to go and I will also try it on my lion installation to see the difference. Nick Gawronski On 8/19/2012 6:41 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Nick, Can you read the Start field in the edit window under Mountain Lion in Pro Tools 10? Slau On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, Some edit fields read fine like the file names to save projects as and when you bounce tracks to files. I am using mountain lion but do have lion still around should I need it. I think it is possible to down grade to lion if you need to but don't know if the newer mac books will support the down grade. My digi 003 works fine under mountain lion and I did not need to reinstall anything. The only thing I had to reinstall was the drivers for my express card for my sata drive and that was not even an upgrade I just opened the folder where I had the pkg file and ran it and things now work great again. Nick Gawronski On 8/18/2012 10:15 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: So, am I understanding this correctly? With Mountain Lion, no edit fields are being read in Pro Tools versions 9 and 10? Can someone else confirm this? Version 10 reads fine with Snow Leopard and Lion, from other accounts. On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:07 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Hello, It appears to be an edit field where there would be text you could edit or change thats not reading in ML with PT10. This issue doesn't happen with PT 9 or 10 on lion. And if i remember correctly PT 9 on ML had the same issue. As i was planning to keep my air running PT 9 in case i ran into any showstoppers in version 10. But when i upgraded my air to ml i realiezed none of the edit fields read at all. That was when i upgraded to version 10 on ML to se if it would fix the issue. So if appears for now If pro tools is an everyday necessity at the very least you will need to keep a lion partition around for a little bit. The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't updated my HD system to version 10 but, since I also have a 003, I decided to update my regular LE version to 10. I'd like to clear something up and I will need verification of something: I'm running Pro Tools version 10 on Snow Leopard and there are no issues with any counter displays not reading. Now, I don't have Mountain Lion and will not run it for some time. Can someone verify, specifically, where counters are not reading properly? Even in Mountain Lion, that would be fairly strange, that is, for a text display to not read correctly. That said, technically, Mountain Lion is not approved for Pro Tools so I'm not concerned.yet. Again, someone with Mountain Lion and Pro Tools 10, please let me know precisely where a counter display doesn't read correctly where it used to read correctly in Snow Leopard or Lion. Thanks, Slau -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion
Same as Chris, I have dual partitioned, except the one with mountain lion does have PT on it, and I use it to test new plugins etc. The main problem, as people are saying, is that counter values aren't shown etc, which makes editing something of a challenge, but if you don't care about all that stuff, you could record and mix quite happily on Mountain Lion. Apart from that, I do prefer Mountain Lion over Lion, and I am looking forward to Avid certifying PT for the OS. While we're on the subject, you heard anything from your mate in Avid Slau? and, as I said before, is there anything we can do to help? Cheers all, and merry mixing! On 16/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: do you set a tempo for any of your projects or do any recording hat requires you to change settings at the start of each project? The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com On Aug 14, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I use pro tools 10.1 on mountain lion with no problems. A few things read differently but basically from what I have found if you hit the button that says pop up button your settings should still be there from the last time you ran it. My drivers for my digi 003 work just fine so I see no reason not to use mountain lion it just means that Avid does not fully support mountain lion but from what I have found it runs fine. Stick with what comes on the system as down grading could take a long time as you will have to reinstall everything from scratch and if it comes with mountain lion on it just use it and see how it works. I have had no major issues or crashes and have done some small test recordings to test out it and all have worked fine. Nick Gawronski On 8/14/2012 5:38 AM, Geoff Shang wrote: Hi, I'm aware that Avid have not certified any version of Pro Tools as ready for Mountain Lion. My wife has just started a job and a mac has been ordered. This means it'll probably come with Mountain Lion. We can probably downgrade it, but I thought I'd first ask if anyone had tried Pro Tools 10 under Mountain Lion and found any differences. I saw someone post the other day that upgrading had broken Pro Tools 9 and I wondered if 10 was also affected. Thanks, Geoff. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Count Off?
Hi, try changing the presets in the Click insert of your click track. And if I double the tempo, any tempo changes I had will still apply, meaning if I go from 120 bpms to 80, if I try and double the tempo, it'll start at 240. Plus, any MIDI stuff I've entered will adhere to the new tempo. HTH, On 06/08/2012, Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: oh, ok. So not only do I have to set the count off but then I also have to toggle it on! Ehhh? Ka. That problem explains why it wasn't working for me. Let me give that a try, and I'll let you guys know, if it doesn't work. Thanks, Kevin for the help. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Count Off? As chris stated, you'll use the Create click track option in the track menu. The 7 key will toggle this on and off. The 8 on the numpad toggles countoff on and off. Under setup, there is a click/countoff option. I believe there, you can tell click to sound only durring countoff. Hope this helps. Kevin= -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: ProTools 9 Mbocx pro 3rd and build in DSP effects
I have no idea, but as no one else has replied, I'll just say, in my limited time of using PT 9, and now 10, I've not noticed anything to do with this, but it may be worth looking in Setup - Periferals, probably with sighted help, as I don't think this dialogue is accessible yet. The other way, would be to send the audio you want affecting into a stereo buss, like 3 and 4 for example, then bring the affected signal back in with 1 and 2, using jack to jack leads, or something similar. Sorry I can't be of any more help. On 06/08/2012, Jørgen Skov Nielsen jnoe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all I have a mbox pro 3rd and i use ProTools 9. On my mbox 3rd pro there is build in DSP effects. Can i use this build in effect in ProTools, and can anyone explain how to do that. Thanks in advance. Best regards Jorgen -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Count Off?
In the track menu, at the bottom, it says Create click track. Then you can use numberpad 7 to turn the click on an odd, and you can chance the click style with the click plugin on insert 1 of the click track. What I haven't figured out how to do is double the click so you can be in 4 4, and have clicks every half beat. HTH. On 06/08/2012, Abdul D Kamara abduldkam...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello All, Another simple question for those who can answer... I would like a count off from the time I hit record to the time when PT actually begins recording, without having sustained clicking throughout the recording period. Can I assume that this is achieved by setting up a click track? If so, how can I make the appropriate modifications? Best, Abdul -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Audio Interfaces (again)
Hiya all, I emailed a while about about audio interfaces, and I'm sure you all pointed me at the mBox Pro. I got one, and unfortunately it was b-stock, and didn't work very well. Other than that, I love it. Anyways, it looks like the company I brought it off won't repair it for me, so I'm looking again. I have found the ProFire 2626, and it looks, at least on paper better than the mBox Pro, but the price is so massively different, I'm wondering, what is the difference between these interfaces? From the looks of it, the mBox has less inputs and outputs, and fewer mic pre's, for over double the price. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated, and I'm sorry if it's off-topic, if it is, please email me privately. Cheers all, -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Audio Interfaces (again)
Hiya mate, I want to be able to record from as many different inputs as possible, so 4 on the mBox, I'll hardly ever use more than that, and a bunch of outputs, so I can have dedicated monitor mixes etc. I loved the way the mBox Pro worked, and I'll probably get another one if the ProFire isn't great, also, I'm in the UK, so I don't really want to be buying stuff from the US LOL, but thank you for the offer. Chers, On 11/07/2012, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: Hey man. What are you looking for in an interface? How many ins and outs? I'm currently selling 2 pieces. An M Audio Fasttrack Ultra, which has 6 ins and 8 outs for $200, and an M Audio Project Mix IO for $400, which is a control surface with motorized faders, midi, 8 ins, 4 outs, but expandable to 16 ins with the use of an ADAT Light Pipe interface. The pres on both units are great, and both units are in fantastic shape. Only downside is that the control panels are inaccessible, but once it's set, you're ready to go. Let me know if interested. Kevin -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: quantizing while recording
Select the portion to be fixed, then press option 0 for quantising. Hth, Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jul 2012, at 18:55, baker420 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i recorded a software drum track i played with the metronome but its sound way off the midi real time properties isn't accessible is there a work around
Re: MBOX and Firewire drive
For the purposes of archiving, I'll reply anyways. I'm sure a while back, Slau said if you do this, you have to put the hard drive first in the chain, then the mBox. HTH, On 30/06/2012, Chris Snyder ch...@chris-snyder.com wrote: Thanks to Slau, this was solved. Friendly, Chris On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi all, It's been a while since I posted here, but I have a couple of questions. I'm using a ProTools 9 MBox setup,. It requires the one firewire port on my Macbook Pro. I have a firewire hard drive which I wish to use to run my sessions. There is an extra firewire port on the back of the MBox. Can I use this to dazychain my hard drive? When I try this, it doesn't work. Is there something I must do to get it to work? If this can't be done, can I use the USB function on this drive to run a session, or will it be too slow? Thanks for your help. Friendly, Chris -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Harmoney Engine Instructions
OK, I finally saw this email under another 2 sales confirmations from Antares LOL. OK, here is my admittedly basic understanding of it. Anyone else who uses it, feel free to chime in. When you open the plugin, after the standard Pro Tools controls, you've got a bunch of options which I just skip, they'll say stuff like h1, h2, save parameter, but they all seem to be binary values, which I think is wrong anyways. The first parameter, and it's the same with all the Antares stuff, you got voice type, so like Altos / Tennor, Baritone / Bass, etc. After that there's a whole load of stuff, to try and ileviate confusion, and get to the point, I'll like the parameters you really care about, all the rest are just icing on the cake. Input select or something it's called, initially it's set to chords or something. I have my default preset (and I've never had cause to change this value) to MIDI Omni. This, my midi geek friend tells me, this is a posh way of saying MIDI Only, and basically, it means whatever midi data the plugin receives, it makes into harmonies (up to 4 notes of course). Main or Master solo / Mute. I can't remember how it's worded, but it's pretty obvious, and basically, it gives you the very useful ability to mute or solo the original vocals, to prevent you getting a doubling affect. MIDI Sensativity. I used to make the mistake of leaving this one alone, and to say the results were varied is a grose under statement. Mine stays firmly at 0% now. The other stuff is kind of superfluous, but you'll definitely want to play with them, or your voices get panned in strange ways. Below is a link to one of our demo tracks, which uses Harmony Engine Evo. Setting it up. Here's how you set it up. I'll assume you've already got one vocal track, which you've recorded a vocal on, and it's got no more than say compression, and pitch correction on or whatever. Most importantly, if it has something like reverb or delay on it, the result is liable to sound disgusting. In the sends of the track, choose an empty send. Set it to new track, and type the name accordingly. Leave the level at 0 for now, you can change it if you don't like i. Navigate to the new track, and insert Antares Harmony Engine Evo from the pitch menu, and apply the desired settings. Next, go back to your mix window, and create yourself a MIDI track. Not a software instrument track, but a MIDI track. Set it's input to whatever you need (I use all), and it's output to some channel (I use 1), or Harmony Engine Evo. Next, start playing your project. Basically, anything you play on your midi keyboard, will become harmonies on the vocal track. You can arm the MIDI track, and save the stuff you make. If you ever re-record the vocals, your harmonies will be there, xecept now they'll be affecting your live voice, not the recorded one. Well, that's about it. Here's a linke to our track, so you can hear it in action. The point of this is that we could reproduce all this stuff live, only my hardware harmoniser sounds pretty horrible in a studio, so this is what we use. Hope you enjoy, and hth. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4219494/Nights%20In%20White%20Satin%20Take%201.wav On 25/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, no problem. Take your time. just wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Harmoney Engine Instructions No, I haven't done it yet, and no, I've not sent it, I'll try and do it today, but all you need to know, is, it works fine with VoiceOver. Just skip passed the things that say h1 row header and all that, to the voice type bit. I'll send something more detailed when I've actually got PT loaded. HTH. On 23/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: It's an Antares plugin, for doing auto harmonizing, apparently. Chris NOrman was supposed to be e-mailing either me, or the list instructions on how with Voiceover to get it to work in P T, as he's done it. I can't figure the bloody thing out to save my life. NO, I don't think you need premade presets, but let's see what Chris has to say on it. BTW Chris, again, no hurry, but i still haven't gotten those directions from you. Did you ever send them? Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Harmoney Engine Instructions Sorry for being behind on this. What is harmony engine? On Jun 22, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I'm also c seeing this directly to Chris Norman, just to be sure he gets this. I never got the e-mail you said you'd send with the instructions on using Harmoney Engine. I checked my junk/spam folders, and it's not there either. Did you ever send it? If not, there is absolutely
Re: MBOX and Firewire drive
Why is that? From what little I know of cabling, I thought the signal was stronger and less latent the closer to the bus you were? so, with that logic, you should have the audio interface first, so it's signal has less far to travel? I'm obviously wrong with that assumption, but I'm interested as to why. Cheers. On 02/07/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, that's correct. while the 002 and 003 will work in reverse, at higher track counts, it gets hairy. The setup guides recommend the interfaces be the last in the chain. Separate busses are preferrable but on single busses, that's the deal. Slau On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Chris Norman wrote: For the purposes of archiving, I'll reply anyways. I'm sure a while back, Slau said if you do this, you have to put the hard drive first in the chain, then the mBox. HTH, On 30/06/2012, Chris Snyder ch...@chris-snyder.com wrote: Thanks to Slau, this was solved. Friendly, Chris On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi all, It's been a while since I posted here, but I have a couple of questions. I'm using a ProTools 9 MBox setup,. It requires the one firewire port on my Macbook Pro. I have a firewire hard drive which I wish to use to run my sessions. There is an extra firewire port on the back of the MBox. Can I use this to dazychain my hard drive? When I try this, it doesn't work. Is there something I must do to get it to work? If this can't be done, can I use the USB function on this drive to run a session, or will it be too slow? Thanks for your help. Friendly, Chris -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: MBOX and Firewire drive
Now it makes sense. While we're remotely on the topic of MBox Pros, mine's b-stock, and has never played nice, and is even worse now. Before I spend money on an avid support code, is there anything I could try to try and reduce buffer underflows when my hw buffer size is at lowest, the headphones sockets not working, and the box refusing to work on Windows in particular after about an hour, as well as VoiceOver having a fit and crackling like mad through it when I quit Pro Tools? I'm about 97% sure it's the hardware's fault, after 3 installs, and 9 months of it not working, but the company I brought it from are being a little difficult about it. Cheers, On 02/07/2012, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, well said and quite correct. Keith Reedy Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from Bibles For The Blind. http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: In this case, the only signals that are traveling between computer and interface are relatively small. The drive needs more of a direct connection to the CPU because it's doing more intensive processing. Regarding other signals reaching the interface, well, they're going directly to the interface via instrument/microphone cable, etc. Best, Slau On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Chris Norman wrote: Why is that? From what little I know of cabling, I thought the signal was stronger and less latent the closer to the bus you were? so, with that logic, you should have the audio interface first, so it's signal has less far to travel? I'm obviously wrong with that assumption, but I'm interested as to why. Cheers. On 02/07/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, that's correct. while the 002 and 003 will work in reverse, at higher track counts, it gets hairy. The setup guides recommend the interfaces be the last in the chain. Separate busses are preferrable but on single busses, that's the deal. Slau On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Chris Norman wrote: For the purposes of archiving, I'll reply anyways. I'm sure a while back, Slau said if you do this, you have to put the hard drive first in the chain, then the mBox. HTH, On 30/06/2012, Chris Snyder ch...@chris-snyder.com wrote: Thanks to Slau, this was solved. Friendly, Chris On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi all, It's been a while since I posted here, but I have a couple of questions. I'm using a ProTools 9 MBox setup,. It requires the one firewire port on my Macbook Pro. I have a firewire hard drive which I wish to use to run my sessions. There is an extra firewire port on the back of the MBox. Can I use this to dazychain my hard drive? When I try this, it doesn't work. Is there something I must do to get it to work? If this can't be done, can I use the USB function on this drive to run a session, or will it be too slow? Thanks for your help. Friendly, Chris -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Mainstream Recording?
music FM radio station now a days, or say, top 40 station, etc. Everything that I pretty much here will have been done strictly in ProTools. nOw, there may be paid plugins that were used, not just the stocked ones, but then again, some times it may! just be stocked stuff. I posed the argument question of, ok, now hold on. Who's to say they're not using something like QBase, or say Logic, or what not? I was given the answer of, it's possible, but highly unlikely. MOst likely, you can bet money on 99% chance, everything would be done in ProTools from the actual recording to the final master/mixing. So for instance, let's just take Leann Rimes for instance, with her You Light up my Life Inspirational songs disc, as that's absolutely by way! far and away one a my favorite discs of all times, that I practicly ware out darn near. LOL! Something like that, you all really mean to tell me a recording that sounds that good literally can be totally done in nothing more than just P T with a good interface, microphone, and maybe control surface, with exactly the same software that I am using? ProTools 10? That's unbelievable! So, granted I have a $300 or so mike, and maybe a $300 or so interface. NOthing fancy. What she would probably be using, oh God heavens alive! I'd think the surface alone! would probably be 10's of thousands of bucks, but generally, for a regular recording artist like her or Randy Travis, Amy Grant, or Steven Curtis Chapman, or Alan Jackson, etc. YOu know, basically, the big dogs, does anyone know exactly down the the make and model what basically a big time studio like that would consist of for really full grammy based artists like that using ProTools? Chris. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Editing and comps
Also, I think Kevin has a podcast about that on his webpage, that's where I learned hehe. On 20/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to help where I can. Do you use Skype? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Editing and comps Does anyone have a lot of experience with editing audio, I believe it's called comps, i.e. taking the best parts of a few different takes? I'm getting into more of that and I wonder if someone would chat with me off list and explain their workflow so I can get more streamlined. Thank you. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Pro Tools 10
P.S.: If you really have problems, I may have the PT 9 DVD lying around, which I can send you an image of. I don't see as it's a problem, because you can't use it without an iLok anyways, so it's not like I'm giving you anything dodgy. HTH. On 21/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well, at least I know mine's a combined license or something. HTH. On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an included ilok that already has the license on it. This way you'd install that, rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give you 10.2. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't install it - download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to authorize it? -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Pro Tools 10
I think what people are trying to say, is that if you get an iLok with a license for PT 10 on it, it automatically authorizes PT 9 as well, at least I know mine's a combined license or something. HTH. On 19/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: no no no, what he's saying is, if you buy PT from somewhere like Guitar Center, etc. you'll probably be able to get 10.0, not 10.2, with an included ilok that already has the license on it. This way you'd install that, rather than going to the Avid web site which probably only would give you 10.2. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jon Solitro To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 So you're saying buy a boxed version from somewhere, but don't install it - download 10.0 from Avid and use the iLok I get in the box to authorize it? -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Mainstream Recording?
OK, Instead of putting instructions for Harmony engine private, I'll put a basic outline on a new thread. HTH. On 22/06/2012, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Nice stuff Scott. - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Mainstream Recording? This is a really interesting thread! For anyone that might care to listen, my band tracked this tune entirely in a spare bedroom. Thanks to the modern miracles of DI and MIDI triggering, the most noisy member was our vocalist. So far, we're two albums down the line and haven't touched what most people would consider to be a proper studio yet during tracking and production stages. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8Xrup5akw Cheers Scott On 6/21/12, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Please, when you read this, note, I'm not saying anyone who's responded to these messages is wrong, there's some great people who know infinitely more about what they're talking about than I, but I'd like to give the view of a hobbiest. I have a studio in my spare bedroom, it's not professional in any way, shape or form. I'm sure if anyone who turned up and knew their stuff, they'd probably leave on a stretcher from laughing so hard, but, the point is, it works for me. I have spent a fair amount of money over the last couple of years getting the stuff I wanted. I do not know what's good or bad, but I followed the suggestions of people on this list, and others, and got stuff which was affordable, and good. With this stuff, I can get the sounds I want and rely upon. They might not be radio quality, or up to the standard of Lianne Rhymes, or anyone like that, but they work for me. Judging by the stuff you've written Christopher, you're in a similar situation to myself, you're just recording for fun, and you probably don't want to do it seriously. Even if you do, I see no reason this stuff, with some modifications, could get you a fairly decent recorded sound, which you could sell to people. Below is my gear list, as far as I know it. I'm actually not sure what my monitors are, but they're MAudio somethings, and they were were some £300 for the pair. I'm using Pro Tools 10, running on a MacBook Pro. It's not the latest one, but the one before that I think. I (stupidly), brought it about a week before the new MacBook Pro with the Thunderbalt ports came out. Off course I use a full sized apple keyboard, and, when I've saved up all the money for my iMac, I'll be using the Magic Trackpad too, so I can sit of my sofa to record, instead of cluttering up space I don't have, with another chair. I'm using a Euphonix Artist Mix control surface, and an MBox Pro (which I find quite unstable with Pro Tools and Mac OS X 10.7.whatever it is). The monitors, as I said, are MAudio something or others, not really a clue. I have 2 Rode NT-1A's, which I use for tracking both acoustic guitar, and vocals. For the rare times when I record amped electric guitars, I borrow a pair of SM57's, which I went halves on with a friend of mine. For the times I'm feeling lazy, and actually, I still love the sound, I use a Vox something or other preamp, which my girlfriend and another friend of mine brought me for my birthday. My main guitar is a Faith acoustic, again, not sure of the model, but it was supposed to sell for £512 or so, but I got it for about £400, because the shop I got it from (Noise Works in Coventry, England), had an offer on. My electric guitar is a Fender Blacktop, and I have a Crafter (I think), fretted acoustic bass, and a Spector Electric bass, which I've had for years, and never changed the strings on, so it's got a lovely basy sound. I am using an Axium 49 as my MIDI controler, but for one song, for which I tracked the MIDI while on the road somewhere, I used an Akai LPK24 or something, basically, a keyboard with 2 octave, bus powered. I have no soundproofing of any kind, apart from a bed setty in my studio (if that counts), and the house is fairly old, so it's got nice thick walls. I've also used an MAudio Mobile Pre, which I use to record my band mate, who plays a Clavia NordStage 88, to save us the ball ache of carrying the damn thing up the stairs. I have absolutely no idea what my headphones are, but I brought them from a PX in Germany, when I was visiting my uncle for like 130 EUR. I could probably never achieve a totally dry sound in this room, but luckily, I've never felt the need too. If I did want too however, I could probably hang a quilt from the wall some how or something. It is a very basic setup, probably costing somewhere in the region of 5 or 6 grand in total, but, as I said, this stuff has been collected over a few years. The desc, the audio interface, my control surface and monitors were all brought fairly recently, but the guitars I've collected
Re: dialog finally restarted with Avid
To reitterate all that everyone has said, thank you for your efforts Slau. I don't know how everyone else feels about this, but if you're going to spend your time, and more importantly your money, to make this thing work, I am personally more than happy to offer my services in any way I can. I can't code, and I don't know Pro Tools well enough to be able to do anything constructive with any of that sort, but I am more than willing to give you money towards your flights, as well as any other costs you incur. If there's anything else I can do to help with this stuff, please let me know, as I don't like taking advantage of your hard work, without offering something more concrete than sinceer thanks. Thanks again mate, and please bear this in mind, if you're going to be flying around the country LOL. Cheers, On 16/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: No problem, Slau. Please keep us posted. Thanks again for all you're doing for us. We really appreciate it! Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:16 PM Subject: Re: dialog finally restarted with Avid While I did get a response, I'm not surprised that I didn't get a follow up since he's out of town, probably at InfoCom, I'd imagine. I'll drop a line first thing Monday morning and try to schedule something again. I'm perfectly happy to fly out again if only to guarantee some forward motion. More to come… Slau On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Slau, thanks for your efforts dude. You are the right guy to handle this with Avid. Keep us informed. best, Ronald Op 13 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: As you guys know, there's been a long radio silence with Avid. As I've mentioned in the past, the product strategist who was handed the accessibility baton from david Gibbons has been inaccessible, for lack of a better term. After repeated emails and phone calls, I finally heard back from him. No surprise, he's on the road, as he usually is. The good thing is that he's finally responding. I'm just waiting to hear back on when we will have a chance to speak a bit. It will probably be either today, tomorrow or Friday. Ultimately, I'm hoping that he will delegate someone else with a little more time and lower-level responsibilities to interface with me regarding further progress. As soon as I have something further to share, I'll post as soon as possible. Slau -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: dialog finally restarted with Avid
Fair enough Slau, but please do think about it, because if we're all benefiting from your work, I don't think it's fair that you shoulder the entire cost. On 18/06/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sean, Thanks again. For now, if it looks like a trip is required, I plan to use frequent flyer miles so that'll help. If it becomes a burden in the future, and hopefully there won't be any burden, I'll consider the suggestion. Much appreciated. Best, Slau On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Sean A. Cummins wrote: Slau, I am also on board if there is cost to be shouldered by us all. Perhaps you can have a PayPal set up for a cause such as this. I can give up a new plug-in purchase for the greater accessibility of Pro Tools! Right everyone? Keepen' The Groove, Sean seanacumm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:35 AM Subject: Re: dialog finally restarted with Avid To reitterate all that everyone has said, thank you for your efforts Slau. I don't know how everyone else feels about this, but if you're going to spend your time, and more importantly your money, to make this thing work, I am personally more than happy to offer my services in any way I can. I can't code, and I don't know Pro Tools well enough to be able to do anything constructive with any of that sort, but I am more than willing to give you money towards your flights, as well as any other costs you incur. If there's anything else I can do to help with this stuff, please let me know, as I don't like taking advantage of your hard work, without offering something more concrete than sinceer thanks. Thanks again mate, and please bear this in mind, if you're going to be flying around the country LOL. Cheers, On 16/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: No problem, Slau. Please keep us posted. Thanks again for all you're doing for us. We really appreciate it! Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:16 PM Subject: Re: dialog finally restarted with Avid While I did get a response, I'm not surprised that I didn't get a follow up since he's out of town, probably at InfoCom, I'd imagine. I'll drop a line first thing Monday morning and try to schedule something again. I'm perfectly happy to fly out again if only to guarantee some forward motion. More to come… Slau On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Slau, thanks for your efforts dude. You are the right guy to handle this with Avid. Keep us informed. best, Ronald Op 13 jun. 2012, om 18:07 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: As you guys know, there's been a long radio silence with Avid. As I've mentioned in the past, the product strategist who was handed the accessibility baton from david Gibbons has been inaccessible, for lack of a better term. After repeated emails and phone calls, I finally heard back from him. No surprise, he's on the road, as he usually is. The good thing is that he's finally responding. I'm just waiting to hear back on when we will have a chance to speak a bit. It will probably be either today, tomorrow or Friday. Ultimately, I'm hoping that he will delegate someone else with a little more time and lower-level responsibilities to interface with me regarding further progress. As soon as I have something further to share, I'll post as soon as possible. Slau -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Garageband Effects?
If I was you, like the others said, set your gb project up to use the same tempo as the pt one, and record your backing vocals. Apply the reverb, then bounce the GB project to wave, then copy and paste the vocal to where you want it within PT. HTH. On 09/05/2012, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Good point. I suppose I could do that. I just want to use PT as much as I can, being it is my primary DAW of choice. Well, and being I paid for it, I need to learn to use it. :) Chris. On May 8, 2012, at 8:25 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: well why not import the track into GB set the effect how you like it, then export it out of gb and re import it into the ProTools Project. Or just do this project in garage band altogether. On May 8, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wanna use one of the reverb effects they offer for doing some backings. Again, I totally like, agree with you. Like totally! NOrmally, I'd not do it, but in this one case, I think it fits the mood of the track. Chris. - Original Message - From: The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Garageband Effects? just out of curiosity which effect is this? But to answer your question. Garage band uses AudioUnit as its plug in format, and ProTools uses RTAS. If you can find a wrapper for audio Unit plug isn so they can be seen as an RTAS plug in then its possible. Not sure if such a tool exist.i Know there is/was one to wrap VST effects though. On May 8, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to use the effects that come with Garageband within a session in PT? Normally, I'd not do this, but there is one effect that GB has that I've not found in PT, that I'd like to use, if that be doable. Chris. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
I have a Rode NT1-A, and I love it, and am hoping to buy another some time soon. It's awesome, and reproduces everything that comes out of my girlfriend's mouth perfectly, which is quite a feat, as she is very dynamic, going from low breathy vocal to gospel-style sweeping blues lines way up high. They will however, get every noise, so again, you can't escape either the gate, or the treated room. Anyways, hth, On 08/05/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't want to worry about removing things after the fact, then stick to dynamic microphones like the ones i recommended. One of those and a long enough mic cable so you aren't right next to the mac and the HD and you should be fine. They are people that specialize in helping you treat a room but you are looking at about $500 and up to hire one. There are plenty of resources out there to guide you and alot of the things can be done DIY style on the cheap or be bought at areasonable prices once you figure out what your room needs. On May 7, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I will have to check on the exact names of my microphones if the names are even still written on them anymore as I have used these things for a long time so stuff might have been warn off but again just going out and buying brand new ones now that I am really into audio production might be the best thing. I don't always like using a microphone stand but do agree about those shock mounts as they do help a lot. Are there companies out there that specialize in prepairing a room to be a studio as I also agree with you about minimizing the ammount of noise that gets into microphones? What is the best way to stop the noise of my external hard drive or mac book pro fan noise from always existing in my recordings with out removing it afterwords? I don't want to put a material over things like a hard drive or a mac book pro because of heat and do you think a wind screen on the microphones will help on the background room noise? Nick Gawronski On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Which microphones do you currently have? Those sound like condensors but yet you say they don't require phantom power.Personally i think every studio should own a Behringer xm8500 or two. Yeah they may only be $20 but they are every bit as good in build/sound quality as the shure SM58 they are based on. Do they sound exactly alike? Nope, One is slightly brighter than the other. THe Shure SM58 is the induestry standard which you will probably find atleast one of in every major studio that cuts vocals. And of course there are way too many variants of that mic in its $100 price range. If you can afford a few hundred dollars then the Shure SM7B is worth a look, It's probably next on my mic list. My research on it shows that its quite the utility mic, sounding good on anything you put in front of it, voice, drums, guitar cabinets, bass cabinets etc, etc. Those 3 should get you started and all have pretty good rejection of anything thats not in front of them. I would avoid condensors for now till your recording space inprooves or unless you have a walk in closet or something like that to set one up in when recording. On May 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Nick Gawronskin...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: keyboard focus keyboard commands
Just out of interest, how does one disable all the shortcuts? I only ask, because some times, I do something, and then keys don't work, command + v for example, and I have to close my session, and reopen it to fix it, leading me to think it's something I'm doing without realising, rather than a problem with PT it's self. Cheers, On 27/04/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Keyboard focus refers to the focus for single letter shortcuts but it pertains to whether the letter a, for example, will enable the edit or mix group assigned to the letter a or trim a region boundary from insertion to start of region, which is a shortcut when the commands focus is engaged. Pressing Command-Option-1 will focus on qwerty commands while Command-Option-3 will focus on the groups list. There are ways to override this like by pressing Control plus the associated qwerty command when commands focus is not enabled or using decimal letter decimal on the numeric keypad when groups focus is not engaged. HTH, Slau On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:30 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Actually if I am not mistaken, those are just standard keyboard commands. Turning on keyboard focus allows you to do things with a single key that you would normally have to press a couple keys to do. For example, paste would be just V instead of CMD+V and so on. Btw, that was just an example, don't quote me on that being one of the keyboard focus shortcuts. - T.O.M On Apr 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, Keyboard focus is on by default. Basically that just lets you use the commands you already know, like command+equals for your mix/edit window, return for the beginning of the session, option+return for the end, F12/command+Space to record, space to play/stop, things like that. It's nothing that enhances things anymore than they already are. If you turned that off, none of those keyboard shortcuts would work. I understand that the keyboard shutcut guide may be a lot and very daunting, and please don't take this rudely, but frankly, it really is your best resource, and as you read through it, you'll begin to find it is a lot, yes, but it's very very logical. Once you get the feel for things, you'll begin to see a definite pattern. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:16 PM Subject: keyboard focus keyboard commands Hello all, I saw a youtube demo of these and they looklike they will make my life easier :). Can someone send me a list of these commands so I can start getting to know them and using them? I am having a hard time finding these in the documentation and they look like they would be helpful from the video I saw on keyboard focus mode. Thanks, Brian= -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Creating busses
Two ways (I think). The one I (and probably everyone else) use, is select New track, from the sends popup menu, and then type in a track name. This'll name the bus properly for you, then you can use it with any track. Or else, you can create a generic aux track (auxiliary input), and as long as you remember the number bus, then you can use it in the same way, it's just nicer and easier to have it named properly for you. HTH. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 19 Apr 2012, at 05:21, Poppa Bear wrote: Today I was trying to get a bus up to use and I couldn’t figure it out. I thought that if I sent an audio track to a reverb bus it would automatically create the bus, and it would be in the mix window. So I sent an audio track to a reverb bus and thought the parameters looked fine, but when I went out of the channel strip to the mix window I couldn’t find the bus I sent the audio to. What do I need to do at this point? Thanks Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com
Re: MidiIng
I'm not sure if this is even legal, but I zipped up the documentation from my PT installation, and uploaded it here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4219494/Pro%20Tools.zip If you want to read ahead of time, go ahead. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 31 Mar 2012, at 01:45, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: They're on the DVD. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: Re: MidiIng Hello Slau, Where can we find these two documents you are referencing? I have a mac and I am thinking about switching to protools. I would like to get ahead and do some reading ahead of time though. Thanks, Brian On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Chris, That Intro to Pro Tools pdf we talked about earlier contains all kinds of helpful information for people new to Pro Tools. Doing a search for keywords like instrument, for example, yields lots of useful instances throughout the manual. Of course, the Intro to Pro Tools guide is pretty basic. I'm sure you'll get through it in no time. when you're ready for some serious reading, the Pro Tools Reference guide is about as detailed as you can get, something to really sink your teeth into. Shame on me, dangling prepositions like that… Something into which you could sink your teeth—now there's some grammar for ya. :) Slau On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: First of all, what's the difference in a Midi track, vs. an instrument track? Second of all, let's say I have a track in 4/4 time, that keeps a constant 120BPM from beginning to end, no retards, nothing of sort. No tempo changes, etc. It's just a constant 4 4 120. How now do I quantize a instrument or midi track to a quartern note value? Finally, if I insert the Xpand!2 plugin on an instrument track, then select say acoustic pianos, and go to like, a warm piano, or what not, I find when I record enable the track, the volume is exceedingly low. So much so, I'm literally having to ajust the track fader Hi almost all the way up just to get even the slightest volume. Now, mind you, I'm using the built in midi sounds on the macbook, not the samples from my actual keyboard which are being triggered through my keyboard's midi out. Would that be a better way a doing it? If so, that's no issue. I certainly do have my interface hooked up where that could be done very easily with the push of one button. I'd have to figure out how to re-route that to the midi out of my interface, but that shouldn't be too hard. Chris.
Re: Two Questions about basic Editing
From what I understand, markers are for saving spots in your project, whereas arrow keys are for marking regions for editing. You can change to SMTPE time in the counter display. It says counter display or something, can't remember. Anyways, hth, On 30/03/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK. I totally understand that pressing num pad period then enter your number then period again will jump you to that marker. I also totally get that hitting num pad period, dial in your number, then press num pad enter will let you reassign! that marker to another location. What, however I'm not getting is I know that up arrow and down arrow make in and out drops. So what is the difference in a marker, from using up and down arrows? My second even more important question by far is, let's say that I'm working on a session, and it's, o... I dono... let's just say speech only. there is no music. Well, right now, in the edit window, if I interact with the counters cluster, I notice that my start, end, and length, are all set based on bar/beat. Well, if this is speech only, we don't wanna move through the file by bar/beat. We'd wanna move by hour, minute, second. How can I reconfigure my session, so that we can make this happen? Kevin, I gotta say, I had the hardest time following your tutorial before. I think a lot of it was I wasn't concentrating very thoroughly. I did great up until we started editting, and working with the num pad. Then you totally lost me. Now that I play the file again, it for some reason makes sense. You definitely put me way out of my comfort zone, but that's good! I like a challenge. I think now, I just really need to practice and really get good with those commands you gave me. One thing, when I'm dialing the numbers in, like you kept going to bar 24 in that track... so if we want to just go there, we'd do num pad star, 2 5 period 1, then hit return. My qu3estion there is, do I have to do 2 5 period 1 on the num pad, or does that have to be done from the qwerty numbers, or does it not matter, just so you hit return when done, and not num pad enter, as that is used for assigning a marker. Chris. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: hooking my soundcard to ProTools
Plug it in, and ensure it's recognised by seeing if it appears in the sound dialogue of System Preferences. If it doesn't, make sure the drivers are installed properly. When you've done that, set your device in the playback whatever it's called option in the Setup menu of Pro Tools. When it is, go to the periferals dialogue, and VO-space on the Input page of that box, press command a (I think), and VO-space on the button that says Delete. Then click the defaults button on that page, then do the same for the Output tab. If anyone else has experience with this, please chip in, because I'm not 100% sure this is right. HTH. On 30/03/2012, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I feel terribly stupid as this question has never been asked on this list, but how do I select my inputs and outputs in ProTools? Is my hardware audio device recognised automatically? I can't see anything about this on the manual except that it says that I should look in my audio devices manual. It's an RME, asio compatible, its driver is installed, and it is already recognised by my Mac, but I have several inputs and outputs to choose from, plus I thought maybe I could use my Mac's internal soundcard for audio feedback in some situations. I bought ProTools as a download so I don't have a demo session to start fiddling, but what am I missing here? Thanks for your help, Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: MBox Pro Blues
Brilliant. A lovely bloke from tech support gave me a new code, which he shouldn't really have done as this box is ex-demo LOL, but yes, I'll do that, once I can find the damned email, which Google seem to have seen fit to add to my spam folder LOL. Cheers for your help. On 17/03/2012, Steve Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: First i'd check avid's site for the latest version of the drivers for it as i have no issues with my mBox Pro. Secondly If you are still with in your 60days or have an avid support license, contact tech support. They can remote into your system and set it up for you. then just save the settings. I need to do this again myself. On Mar 16, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hiya all, Just wondering if anyone has a saved layout for the MBox Pro that I could nick? my girlfriend tried to get the outputs and stuff working for me, and now all the options have vanished. Also, it still seems to be a bit flaky with Lion, anyone got any news on that? Cheers, and if anyone has any hints as to why all options in the control panel have magically been greyed out, that'd be greatly appreciated! :-) Cheers. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Selecting more than one track
Hiya Slau, When you delete a group, doesn't it delete the tracks in that group to? I seem to remember that Pro Tools gave me that impression when I went to delete one. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 16 Mar 2012, at 20:55, Slau Halatyn wrote: Actually, it is quite practical. Any tracks that need to be selected for editing are worth grouping, after which, one doesn't have to go through the process of reselecting tracks and can enable or disable with keystrokes alone. Further, it's possible to additionally hide or show the tracks with the same keystrokes—yet another way of working in Pro Tools. Slau On Mar 16, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Sonar Switcher wrote: david, I had the same problem and Chuck was the one to get it to work. I understand Slau's idea but it's not very practical if you have to move fast. I can have 40 tracks loaded and thanks to Chuck select any of them in seconds for example track 1-6-10-20-36 can be selected while leaving the others untouched without hiding, grouping etc. Use an actual mouse, go to the track table, interact with it, click the mouse or VO spacebar on the first track then just move through the table and command click the actual mouse on each track you want to select. The biggest prob I had at the beginning was not understanding you need a mouse and not VO spacebar for this. Chuck, the answer to not needing sighted help for the gray bar is to use the VO resize window command until you are sure the mouse is always where you need it to be. In my case I've had to resize different ways for different sessions because of too many tracks. Usually I get it in 2 or three tries of resizing. You also need the true mouse to do other things like solo safe and general commands that won't work with VO and mouse modifier keys. David Eagle wrote: Hi, I have just listened to Kevin's tutorial on ProTools. He talks about selecting tracks. I am finding it a bit of a challenge. I am in the tracks table. I can select one track with VO space, but pressing Shift and semi-colon or Shift and P does not select the next track. Also, Kevin mentions not being able to select consecutive tracks. He mentions being able to do this using a control surface but not with the keyboard. Is there anyway to select - say - track 3, 5 and 7 with the keyboard. It's a shame that PT haven't built it into the control click menu for the track. It would be so easy to do. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Selecting more than one track
Chuck, you respond to every email the same way, and I'd just like to point that, that I've ignored you every time, and my Pro Tools works fine… Alls you gotta do is check the options in the options menu about linking things up, and you're god to go. I just checked the keys myself, and they worked. Not sure if it matters, but in the edit window (may work from the mix window too but not sure), hit f4 to start absolute grid mode or whatever it's called. Hope this helps. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 16 Mar 2012, at 14:29, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi David, After you move the tracks table 30% or so to the right in the mix window you can command click with the mouse! on the tracks you want to select. Some one on the list had a way to do this without sighted assistance! Please Chime in? Check options menu for other track selections. Check both track selection options. YMMV :) CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:46 AM, David Eagle wrote: Hi, I have just listened to Kevin's tutorial on ProTools. He talks about selecting tracks. I am finding it a bit of a challenge. I am in the tracks table. I can select one track with VO space, but pressing Shift and semi-colon or Shift and P does not select the next track. Also, Kevin mentions not being able to select consecutive tracks. He mentions being able to do this using a control surface but not with the keyboard. Is there anyway to select - say - track 3, 5 and 7 with the keyboard. It's a shame that PT haven't built it into the control click menu for the track. It would be so easy to do. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Selecting more than one track
Is it then possible to get them tracks out of the group? Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 16 Mar 2012, at 15:59, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi David, If you want to select non-adjacent tracks without a control surface, perhaps the easiest way is to hide the tracks between the ones you wish to select. Be aware that the meer act of bringing up the contextual menu to hide the track will at the same time select it. regardless, when you've hidden the tracks you don't want to select, use the Control-p or Control-semicolon commands to move to the first track you want in your selection group and then use Control-Shift-semicolon to extend the track selection into the rest of the tracks. The selection will skip any hidden tracks. In the Tracks Table, check to make sure your selection is correct and then you might want to group the tracks. Once you've done this, whenever one of the tracks in that group is selected, the insertion cursor will run through all of the tracks in the group regardless of whether any tracks in between are hidden or not. Hope that helps. slau
Re: Scratching
Also you could try VarIfi or whatever it's called in the audio sweet menu, but not sure how much milage you'll get out of that. Goldwave to perhaps? Not sure, it does seem a bit of a tall order LOL, but huh anyways. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 8 Mar 2012, at 18:45, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi Jon, I have a friend that does scratching this way. Bounce the vocal rap track and burn a cd then put it into a DJ cd player that can scratch and take audio out from dj box and bang it in to pt! Now you can move it into position in pt if you don't scratch in time! :) Its quick but works fine. May be someone has a better way but this will get er done! :) YMMV On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Jon Solitro wrote: Hey all, Does anyone know how to put the effect on vocals like a DJ is holding the spinning record and stopping it to give it that scratching and quick repeating effect? I'm doing an album for a hip hop artist and he asked if I could do that to one section of the vocals and I have no ideabut of course I said Sure! Thanks!
Re: Mumber pad that works with protools
Your best bet is to get the full sized apple keyboard mate, I think that's what most people on this list use, in fact, it's what I've just been using with Pro Tools with for the last 5 hours LOL. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 7 Mar 2012, at 20:32, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, is there an external usb number pad that works with protools shortcuts? Sent from my iPhone
Dragging audio from the timeline
Hiya all, I've been trying for maybe 3 hours now, and I don't think I know of anything else to try. I've googled, read the manual, and buggered about with it. Is there a way to move stuff from the region list onto tracks? I'm sure someone said that if I import a loop into the region list, it'll conform to the session tempo, then I can bang it on a track. I've tried the normal drag and drop stuff that used to work in grage band, but I'm not entirely sure where I'm dragging to, I've also tried option tab, which doesn't seem to do anything, as I think that has to do with the currently selected track, which has nothing on it in preparation for the new loop. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Cheers all, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject.
Re: software updater
I did a quick google, but couldn't find anything concrete. Is PT 10 better suited for Lion users? if so, I may consider buying a cross grade too. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 4 Mar 2012, at 19:26, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I was able to update to pro tools 10.0.1 and would also suggest you do the same. Your web browser should open to a page with information and download links. I downloaded and ran the file and updated with no issues and am running lion 10.7.3. One issue that should be addressed is that they suggest to turn off automatic updating in the mac operating system but my thoughts are that they will have to support those newer versions as the way mac is installed now if a user reinstalls they will automatically get the new versions if they like it or not so my point is why not just update ahead of time and get it over with? Nick Gawronski On 3/4/2012 1:13 PM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi all, did anyone have an issue with ProTools 10's software updater? When lunching ProTools amessage tells me that a new version is available. There is a details button I can click on, and then nothing I can interact with. I'm using a French Mac with lion. Could that be the problem? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: time stretching
How do you drag onto the track? I understand the theory of drag and drop, but where abouts do you need to drag it too? the track table? or the tracks as they appear in the edit window? Cheers, On 02/03/2012, Stephen Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know what loop format you are working with? I beleive pro tools should reconized acidized wav/mp3 and REX files. The only accssseble way to do this in theory is to import the loops into protools Regions list. then using click and drag with VO to put it on the track. The loops will then sync to th eproject tempo from waht i read. Unfortunately TroTools wond sync loops if they are imported right onto a track. On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:58 AM, baker420 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have two loops with different tempos is there a way to time stretch or no i know elastic audio isn't accessible to us what's the tce tool and is it accessible to us thanks -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
