[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

2015-05-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tremendous looking build.  Well done


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:25:15 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 my dad had a yellow bike-boom fuji when i was growing up. then he had 
 nothing for years, until he found my old teenage years beach cruiser after 
 i left home. he has been riding that around, taking it to yosemite, beating 
 the hell out of it for the last 5 or 6 years. it is encrusted with rust 
 from the time (and probably many other times i dont know about)  he thought 
 it would be funny to ride it directly into the ocean. it's had a hard life, 
 and needs to be retired. when i asked him what he likes about it, he said 
 the high handlebars and the big tires. 

 so i figure that i can kill 3 birds with one stone. get him a gift he will 
 use, and get a half bike out of my house, that i probably would never get 
 around to building up, and have something semi respectable to ride when im 
 over there. 

 the frame is a 1984 diamondback apex. tange mtb tubing, made in japan. mix 
 of lugged and welded joints. it's a cool frame with all sorts of braze-ons 
 and mounting points. it has an apocalypse-ready spoke holder chainguard, 
 which is 80% of why this bike is still in my possession. og deerhead 
 derailleurs, biopace rings, suntour pedals, and a hard stopping, yet 
 annoying, brake under the chainstay. 

 i went as fat as possible with 2.35 fat franks. technomic stem and 
 albatross bars with the cheapo sunrace thumb shifters. a clem rack on the 
 back. he will hate the black brooks professional (so ill likely be selling 
 that soon) but it'll look good when i show the bike to him. 

 now i just need to figure out how to convince him that it really should be 
 locked up, and to not fully submerge it in salt water. also might need to 
 figure out a rear mounting kickstand so he doesn't just lay this on the 
 ground everywhere...


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rtYPmaDO9SU/VWT_LMowUaI/AUI/yvVs23axPdM/s1600/IMG_1937.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xGLQDxgWDBY/VWT_XYdIPPI/AUY/t_SLh_TS59U/s1600/IMG_1939.JPG


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[RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread LBleriot
I was in the same situation as the OP with my proto Rom in that the trusty 105 
began to notch after X years.   I've used CK and VO headsets on other builds, 
but I gave the IRD needle bearing one from Riv a try.  It installed very nicely 
and once I cleaned the protective grease off and relubed the bearings, the 
handling improved markedly.  I've never experienced shimmy on any of my bikes, 
front loaded 650'ers and featherweight racers, so I can't comment on the impact 
of the needle bearings, but the IRD works a treat.  PS: you might need an extra 
spacer switching from 105 to the IRD given the slight difference in stack 
height. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

2015-05-26 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado


You got my wheels turning now. That really turned out nice..

I have a 93 Apex sitting on my trainer 7 speed,1-1/8 threadless headset.
You have given me some great ideas.
Thanks for sharing.
Jon

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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Awesome! I look forward to your write up and photos! Mud contains 
probiotics and it good for your water bottles! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:13:43 PM UTC-6, stonehog wrote:

 I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a 
 hodgepodge of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry 
 the often times large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots 
 of gravel roads, I am happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was 
 rock solid.  There were 40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never 
 felt under biked. Kudos to the 2.1 Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the 
 first day, but a little air and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. 
 No problem for the next 300 miles. I will get a better write up with pics 
 in the next few days. No other Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an 
 Atlantis on the ride. 

 P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and 
 they kept my water bottles usable. 

 Brian Hanson 
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

2015-05-26 Thread hsmitham
Manny,

As always you impress me with your can do attitude. How awesome to have aa 
banjo to listen to.

You may want to have some extra steel brazed on that front down tube  We know 
how you like to break things especially with your penchant towards front 
loading 

Thanks for the share. Gonna get the wife on a tandem this Summer. 

Cheers, 

~Hugh




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
 The lady-friend writes.
 We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, made 
 s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit all my 
 extra luggage on our bike!
 
 
 Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
 https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A
 
 
 
 
 
 Mashley 

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

2015-05-26 Thread Wayne Naha
He is a lucky man!  Good job on the build!

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:25:15 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:




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[RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used
many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over
the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the
trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come
back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use
is:

*Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison
d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense *of
the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*

So: you reasons pro for saddlebags, with or without racks;

And your reasons con for same.

My two reasons:

1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, I've
not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2
Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I
might as well get max vol.

2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2
big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles
of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm planning to go more or less the speed of the book, so ~70 riding
days and ~12 rest days. I won't slavishly follow the book, because I'm
incapable of being ordered around by books. But I expect I'll go about
that speed.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:54 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anne,

 I'm  with you, I too am a side sleeper and a air mattress is a must. I've 
 found that if I keep it slightly deflated I get a wonderful night of rest. 
 That foam pad looks great! Super lightweight perfect for siting anywhere,  
 just not really compressible. These days I like super compression to save on 
 space.

 Your doing the entire divide? How long are you taking?

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Tim Gavin
I prefer panniers for the reasons you stated, and because the quick release
systems for panniers are more reliable and less expensive than those for
saddlebags.
I have a pair of Vaude panniers with the Ortlieb system. They're secure,
and easy to remove with one hand.



 My two reasons:

 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well,
 I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2
 Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I
 might as well get max vol.

 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2
 big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles
 of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.


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[RBW] Re: Saluki on it's way back

2015-05-26 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Thanks Dave, Shoji, Erl and Steve!



First commute on the re-built Saluki this morning went great. Glorious 
weather, a warm afternoon but I had a late work release anyway.  The bike 
did great, the fenders and Bruce Gordon racks were flawless.  I'm pretty 
stoked about the build and bummed I won't be able to ride in the next two 
days. Friday here I come!

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/05/back-in-saddle.html


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[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Michael Hechmer
Patrick, I starting using saddle bags - Carradice Barley most days  Nelson 
when needed during my 13 years as a long haul commuter.  I used and 
continue to use the Carradice SQR system.  For just a minimal amount of 
metal it provides a high degree of stability and absolutely the fastest on 
and off the bike quick release available.  The really big advantage of 
saddle bags comes from having them above the fenders.  I ride a lot of dirt 
roads and when commuting a third of my 30 mile RT was dirt.  It rains 
regularly and unpredictably in Vermont so everything I could have above the 
fenders was a plus for me.  You can stuff a lot of stuff into a Barley and 
never feel the weight behind you.  I didn't like having my macbook in the 
Nelson, but they are a lot lighter now.

We use a small Arkel pannier for every day riding on the tandem and Pat 
uses the same bag on her Betty.  Big panniers are strictly for touring. 
 Now that I'm retiring I never use the Nelson and the Barley rarely gets 
more than a bottle of wine or a few ears of corn in it.

Of course riding in NM is probably very different.

Michael

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:44:50 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used 
 many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over 
 the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the 
 trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come 
 back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use 
 is:

 *Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison 
 d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense 
 *of 
 the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*

 So: you reasons pro for saddlebags, with or without racks;

 And your reasons con for same.

 My two reasons:

 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
 I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
 Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
 might as well get max vol.

 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2 
 big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles 
 of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.

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 *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle

 *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante  
  

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[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ortlieb Panniers for me.  Mostly due to their easy on and easy off system.  
I love the romance of a well used saddle bag but it doesn't fit my 
lifestyle at this time.  However, I learned a long time ago to never say 
never.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used 
 many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over 
 the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the 
 trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come 
 back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use 
 is:

 *Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison 
 d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense 
 *of 
 the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*

 So: you reasons pro for saddlebags, with or without racks;

 And your reasons con for same.

 My two reasons:

 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
 I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
 Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
 might as well get max vol.

 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2 
 big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles 
 of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.

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 *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
 circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
 individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

 *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle

 *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante  
  

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Anne,

I skipped the Ortlieb inserts and went to a hardware store and bought some 
clear tubing of the proper diameter for my rack.  This stuff is similar to 
surgical tubing; soft and pliable.  I cut four pieces the appropriate 
length to fit between the cross members of the rack where the pannier will 
attach.  This keeps the tubing from slipping sideways.  I split the tubing 
along the bottom, fit it onto the rack and zip tied it in place.  This has 
worked great fo me but your results may vary.  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:59:30 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:


 My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on 
 the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the 
 pannier is noisy in off-road touring. 

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[RBW] Oregon Outback

2015-05-26 Thread Pondero
Well done, and glad to hear the Hunq performed well.  I know Mark Reimer did 
the Outback on his excellent Atlantis, and apparently it was a bit of 
adventure.  Hopefully, he chime in here on how the Atlantis performed.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beautiful build!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread hsmitham
Anne,

I'm  with you, I too am a side sleeper and a air mattress is a must. I've found 
that if I keep it slightly deflated I get a wonderful night of rest. That foam 
pad looks great! Super lightweight perfect for siting anywhere,  just not 
really compressible. These days I like super compression to save on space.

Your doing the entire divide? How long are you taking? 

~Hugh

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[RBW] Saddlesack medium and VO Porteur rack

2015-05-26 Thread SJB
I'm always on the lookout for the perfect bag for commuting. I use a VO 
Porteur rack up front and I'm wondering if anyone has used a Saddlesack 
with this rack. The Saddlesack medium seems like it would fit the VO rack 
profile pretty well.

Has anyone done this? And if so, how did it work?

Thanks.

Steve- not a bag matcher, just a bag searcher
Tucson

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[RBW] Oregon Outback

2015-05-26 Thread Brian Hanson
I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a hodgepodge 
of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry the often times 
large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots of gravel roads, I am 
happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was rock solid.  There were 
40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never felt under biked. Kudos to 
the 2.1 Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the first day, but a little air 
and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. No problem for the next 300 
miles. I will get a better write up with pics in the next few days. No other 
Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an Atlantis on the ride. 

P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and they 
kept my water bottles usable. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I have had two Big Agnes pads. In both cases, they worked just great
until one morning when I woke up and I was sleeping on the ground.
Others have reported the same thing-- eventually they leak, unfixably.

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 Best sleep system, bar none, is made by Big Agnes. The inflatable pad fits
 into a sleeve integrated in the bag. No more slipping off. Fantastic!

 https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/SleepingBags

 Cheers,

 John

 On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first
 tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there and
 see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im
 missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've blocked
 out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following bicycling the
 pacific coast, but if there are preferable route options, i'd be interested
 in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but i have some
 time, and i like thinking about it.

 taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini
 mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open
 for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler.

 rear rack/camper bag

 tent

 sleeping bag/pad

 alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging
 capability, but it's pretty heavy)

 bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff

 lock

 towel

 camera

 tools/maintenance

 2 tubes, levers and patch kit

 multi tool

 crescent wrench

 pump


 front panniers

 5 t-shirts

 overshirt

 2 musa or musa-like pants

 2 shorts

 underwear/socks

 rain jacket

 packable down jacket

 sandals

 toiletries

 chargers/ipod nano


  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list,
 but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside
 clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what
 people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff
 strapped to their bikes.






































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Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
Fantastic! There were some other people on this group who said they
were going to do the Outback. I hope we hear from more of them.

(Oh. Yeah. I said I was going to do it. My friend wimped out, so I
didn't go. Next year.)

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a 
 hodgepodge of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry 
 the often times large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots of 
 gravel roads, I am happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was rock 
 solid.  There were 40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never felt 
 under biked. Kudos to the 2.1 Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the first 
 day, but a little air and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. No 
 problem for the next 300 miles. I will get a better write up with pics in the 
 next few days. No other Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an Atlantis on 
 the ride.

 P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and they 
 kept my water bottles usable.

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Visting Portland

2015-05-26 Thread hsmitham
I'd suggest riding the Springwater MUP, maybe hit the Rail Road Museum close to 
the end of the Northern end of the Springwater. Another stop is OMSI also off 
the Springwater and I personally think Forest Park is a must! Maybe climb 
Tabor. And I love riding to Cartlandia in SE. So many things to do, hopefully 
some locals will chime in. Have a wonderful time. 

Cheers, 

~Hugh




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:14:47 AM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
 My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple weeks 
 and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
 enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of having 
 my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 
 
 Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
 Velo Cult. 
 
 Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Tim Gavin
Anne-

There are two sizes of inserts for the Orlieb clips; ensure you're using
the ones that fit your rack tubing.  One size fits the Nitto rack on my Riv
perfectly, the other size fits the Tubus on my KOM.

As for the rattle; I added a rubber spacer to the rack to make the bottom
more secure (I wrapped an innertube scrap and secured it with a zip tie). I
positioned the bottom clip near the rear corner of the rack, and put the
spacer near the front corner.  That makes the pannier secure at four
corners.

Tim


 My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on
 the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the
 pannier is noisy in off-road touring.



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[RBW] Re: Saluki on it's way back

2015-05-26 Thread WETH
Those fenders came out nicely!  You are right about the silky feel of a new 
drivetrain!  Beautiful bike. Congrats!

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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beautiful shots as always! I too love that gate squeezing shot. It puts the 
mash in Mashley!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:25:32 AM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 The lady-friend writes.
 We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, 
 made s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit 
 all my extra luggage on our bike!

 Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
 https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A


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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, I've
 not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2
 Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I
 might as well get max vol.

So funny-- I actually made this very test a couple of hours ago. I'm
getting ready to do the Great Divide, figuring out what I'll bring and
how I'll carry it. I gave up on my homemade saddlebag with the R10
rack, after realizing that it just won't carry enough. So I put an Old
Man Mountain rack on the bike, and tried putting what I need to bring
in my two Ortlieb rear panniers, and finding it fit easily. Great. So
then I thought, well maybe the Large Saddlesack would be better. So I
took the stuff (tent, water filter, jacket, sweater, MUSA pants, two
bike shorts, towel  soap, one baggy shorts, food bag, and there might
be some more stuff) and tried to put it in the Large Saddlesack, and
it didn't fit. So there you have it. Ortlieb panniers hold more.

Now, as to why I'd uses the Large Saddlesack-- it's easier to load and
unload. I love my Large Saddlesack on my around-town bike. It's easier
to stuff things in, and then find them again when I need them.

People who use the Revelate-style bikepacking seat bags love them
because there is no rack to break, and no panniers to be noisy. The
whole thing is light and simple. All of which is true, but those seat
bags don't hold very much. If you want a more expansive style of
touring, the bikepacking seatbag isn't big enough.

My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on
the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the
pannier is noisy in off-road touring.

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Wow, I've ridden bicycles all my life and have never replaced a headset and 
rarely service them.  My 2012 Hillborne has the original headset with 
12,000+ miles and I haven't even checked it.  I had planned on servicing it 
this summer though. What do you think causes the rapid failure of yours?  
Do you do a lot of offoading and/or stream crossings without fenders?  Ride 
in a lot of rain without fenders?  I'm curious.  If this is the case, I'm 
also curious to know if the general consensus is that sealed cartridge 
bearings would alleviate headset deterioration for those riding in extreme 
conditions without fenders.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 8:44:27 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:

 I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
 can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
 bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
 is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
 other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
 replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
 but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
 are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
 the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
 be appreciated!.



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[RBW] WTT -- My Burley Solo trailer with cargo conversion kit, for your something

2015-05-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
I have a Burley Solo trailer that hasn't left my garage in a long time.  I 
got it in 2001 and I'd love to get it out of my garage.  I do not want to 
ship it.  So, if you are in the SF Bay Area and need a Burley trailer, 
please let me know off-list.  I'll be happy to work something out with you. 
 I'd love to just trade stuff.  I'm open.  I'm thinking the equivalent of 
$100 worth of trade-goods would be just fine.  

The Burley Solo fits one child and has a back area for a bag of groceries. 
 I also invested in the cargo conversion kit.  It's time consuming 
switching it from cargo to kid, but it's nice to have two trailers.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA  

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread William deRosset
If you want a more expansive style of touring, the bikepacking seatbag 
isn't big enough. 

My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on the 
rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the pannier 
is noisy in off-road touring. --

Dear Anne,

A bikepacking seatbag, a bikepacking frame bag, and a bikepacking front bag 
just squeaks into (my) ultralight long-distance bikepacking range, but I 
considered a 20lb dry weight heavy back when I fastpacked. I generally use 
a handlebar bag + front panniers on roads, and I've got plenty for 
expansive living in the summertime. I can even just squeak into a Nelson 
Longflap + my 25N+1 bag (my nylon handlebar bag that's 1 taller than a 
Berthoud GB25) in the summer, but don't ask me to drive the great divide 
trail on that setup--not enough water storage for the southern portions, 
and I really want a bug-proof shelter for the northern tier. Way too much 
for a 1200K, though (I fit into a GB 25 pretty handily for that distance on 
roads).

A gumboots engineer's solution for the rattly ortlieb panniers: tape. Yep, 
pad out the rack to the I.D. of the ortlieb mounting hooks. I like flue 
tape, as it is mostly aluminum, and won't creep much due to load, though 
I'm interested in others' solutions here.

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:59:30 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

  1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
 I've 
  not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
  Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
  might as well get max vol. 

 So funny-- I actually made this very test a couple of hours ago. I'm 
 getting ready to do the Great Divide, figuring out what I'll bring and 
 how I'll carry it. I gave up on my homemade saddlebag with the R10 
 rack, after realizing that it just won't carry enough. So I put an Old 
 Man Mountain rack on the bike, and tried putting what I need to bring 
 in my two Ortlieb rear panniers, and finding it fit easily. Great. So 
 then I thought, well maybe the Large Saddlesack would be better. So I 
 took the stuff (tent, water filter, jacket, sweater, MUSA pants, two 
 bike shorts, towel  soap, one baggy shorts, food bag, and there might 
 be some more stuff) and tried to put it in the Large Saddlesack, and 
 it didn't fit. So there you have it. Ortlieb panniers hold more. 

 Now, as to why I'd uses the Large Saddlesack-- it's easier to load and 
 unload. I love my Large Saddlesack on my around-town bike. It's easier 
 to stuff things in, and then find them again when I need them. 

 People who use the Revelate-style bikepacking seat bags love them 
 because there is no rack to break, and no panniers to be noisy. The 
 whole thing is light and simple. All of which is true, but those seat 
 bags don't hold very much. If you want a more expansive style of 
 touring, the bikepacking seatbag isn't big enough. 

 My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on 
 the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the 
 pannier is noisy in off-road touring. 

 -- 
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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

2015-05-26 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
 the high handlebars and the big tires

You really can't say it any better than that!!

That is a great build! I'm surprised how well the technomic stem worked. 
 My first instinct would have been to use a rise stem but the technomic got 
the bar high enough and it looks so much better than any rise stem.  



On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:25:15 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:

 my dad had a yellow bike-boom fuji when i was growing up. then he had 
 nothing for years, until he found my old teenage years beach cruiser after 
 i left home. he has been riding that around, taking it to yosemite, beating 
 the hell out of it for the last 5 or 6 years. it is encrusted with rust 
 from the time (and probably many other times i dont know about)  he thought 
 it would be funny to ride it directly into the ocean. it's had a hard life, 
 and needs to be retired. when i asked him what he likes about it, he said 
 the high handlebars and the big tires. 

 so i figure that i can kill 3 birds with one stone. get him a gift he will 
 use, and get a half bike out of my house, that i probably would never get 
 around to building up, and have something semi respectable to ride when im 
 over there. 

 the frame is a 1984 diamondback apex. tange mtb tubing, made in japan. mix 
 of lugged and welded joints. it's a cool frame with all sorts of braze-ons 
 and mounting points. it has an apocalypse-ready spoke holder chainguard, 
 which is 80% of why this bike is still in my possession. og deerhead 
 derailleurs, biopace rings, suntour pedals, and a hard stopping, yet 
 annoying, brake under the chainstay. 

 i went as fat as possible with 2.35 fat franks. technomic stem and 
 albatross bars with the cheapo sunrace thumb shifters. a clem rack on the 
 back. he will hate the black brooks professional (so ill likely be selling 
 that soon) but it'll look good when i show the bike to him. 

 now i just need to figure out how to convince him that it really should be 
 locked up, and to not fully submerge it in salt water. also might need to 
 figure out a rear mounting kickstand so he doesn't just lay this on the 
 ground everywhere...


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rtYPmaDO9SU/VWT_LMowUaI/AUI/yvVs23axPdM/s1600/IMG_1937.JPG


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Re: [RBW] Re: 03 Curt Goodrich Riv custom out for life-altering surgery.

2015-05-26 Thread Mike Schiller
Chauncey is replacing the seat stays to allow clearance for 75 mm wide 
650B+ tires. The bike is filet brazed. The rest of the bike will fit them 
as is. The overall diameter of the so-called 650B+ tires is almost the same 
as 29 wheels with a 2.3 tire.  So I can run either wheelset ( disc 
wheels) 55 mm 29er wheels for smoother faster rides and 75 mm wide 650B 
wheels for sandy desert terrain.

~mike

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:10:02 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Mike: curious: why 622 to 584?

 In any event, please post photos when you get it back. I've seen a 
 relatively recent fatbike build Chauncey did, with custom integrated rack, 
 and it's very well done.


  

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[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
Patrick:

Panniers for the versatility  ease of on'n'off the bike. I've never tried 
one of Rivs ginormous versions but 2 big Ortleibs hold a LOT of stuff.  
I've used a few smaller saddle bags for day rides  such, and they are nice 
for that because you don't bend over to dig around in them.  And you don't 
have to think about which way to park the bike so it won't fall over on 
the kickstand when you only have 1 pannier on.  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used 
 many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over 
 the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the 
 trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come 
 back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use 
 is:

 *Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison 
 d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense 
 *of 
 the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*

 So: you reasons pro for saddlebags, with or without racks;

 And your reasons con for same.

 My two reasons:

 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
 I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
 Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
 might as well get max vol.

 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2 
 big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles 
 of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.

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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
That little Therm-a-Rest pad can also double as a knee pad.  I use my flip 
flops for kneeling pads when messing around in my tent from the outside.  
That would be better.

dougP

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
 tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
 and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
 missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
 blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following bicycling 
 the pacific coast, but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
 interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
 i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 

 taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini 
 mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open 
 for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 

 *rear rack/camper bag*

 tent

 sleeping bag/pad

 alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
 capability, but it's pretty heavy)

 bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff

 lock

 towel 

 camera 

 *tools/maintenance *

 2 tubes, levers and patch kit

 multi tool

 crescent wrench 

 pump


 *front panniers *

 5 t-shirts

 overshirt 

 2 musa or musa-like pants 

 2 shorts

 underwear/socks

 rain jacket

 packable down jacket

 sandals

 toiletries 

 chargers/ipod nano


  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
 but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
 clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
 people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
 strapped to their bikes. 
  


  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  




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[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne and a question

2015-05-26 Thread JohnS
Hello donavanm,

Having your bike stolen sucks, hopefully you can get a new set of wheels 
soon. Here's a couple of suggestions for you.

High Option: If you don't come across a QB/S1 any time soon, I would 
recommend the 2012 Salsa Casseroll. I bought one last spring when I 
couldn't find a QB/S1. The Casseroll was NOS and was available at an 
independent bike shop that's about an hour from my house. Great bike, very 
similar geometry, feel and features as the QB/S1, canti brakes, chromoly 
frame, light touring geometry, semi-horizontal drop outs, lots of braze on 
mounting points for racks, fenders, three water bottles and frame peg. The 
Riv Little Big Bens fit, fillet brazed not lugged. I paid $700 for the 
frame, fork and custom front rack. I'm using it as my commuter and have it 
set up fixed. The QB that I bought this year came with custom wheels built 
up with Phil Wood hubs which are very nice. I replaced the QB rear wheel 
with the two speed fixed Bendix and mounted the Phil hub rear wheel on the 
Casseroll. I did have to change the end caps to match the Casseroll 130 
OLD. The Casseroll had a limited production run and are kind of rare, so it 
might be just as hard to find as a QB/S1.

http://salsacycles.com/bikes/archive/2012_casseroll

Low Option: As you had mentioned another option would be to build up an old 
touring bike. I have an Azuki Elite frame/fork which I think is late '70's 
that I would be willing to sell for $50 plus shipping. It's 62cm chromoly 
lugged touring frame that was made in Japan. Semi-horizontal drop outs and 
eyelets for fenders, but none for racks nor water bottles. Requires center 
pull or side pull brakes, not canti. Rear OLD is 126mm. Red paint polished 
up nicely, but it does have some scratches. Azuki was make by Kawamura 
(Nishiki) for West Coast Cycle. I think building it up as a Frankin bike 
using the S1 fork and a Paul racer rear brake would be pretty cool. Let me 
know if you're interested, I can provide pictures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishiki_%28bicycle%29

Good luck,
JohnS

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:54:45 AM UTC-4, donavanm wrote:

 As the subject says, theres another stolen SimpleOne out there now. Last 
 Thursday night I was out at Golden Gardens in Seattle enjoying the sunset 
 with some friends. Bikes were parked ~15 feet away on the beach, which was 
 far enough for someone to make off unnoticed. They kindly left another 
 friends tandem and my helmet plus gloves behind. Already reported to SPD 
 etc, though I have little hope of recovery.

 First was my daily commuter, 62CM SimpleOne frame serial M105. At time 
 of theft included black revelate frame bag, black Haulin Colin front rack + 
 wald basket, Supernova light, Velo Orange branded SP dynamo hub, salsa 
 delgado rims, silver Paul cantilever brakes, schwalbe little big ben tires. 
 https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46199

 Second was a friends 1993 XO-2, purple paint, 54cm frame, 
 serial H220098. At time of theft included silver rear rack, white bar tape, 
 salsa 38cm short and shallow drop bars, nitto periscopa stem, bar end 
 shifters, original deore 3x7 drive train, original wheelset. 
 https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46200

 And now the question, suggestions for a similar single speed frame? The 
 SimpleOne was my favoritist bike, used for daily commuting, shenanigans, 
 and bike camping. Im seriously considering getting a clone custom made, but 
 would like a replacement in a sooner time frame. Are there any production 
 frames with a similar 72.5/72.5 and midlong chainstay geometry? If nothing 
 else I might round up an 80s steel touring frame and throw a SimpleOne fork 
 on it.


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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Ryan Christbaum


 Definitely a warm jacket of some sort.  I live in the Berkeley hills and I 
 only sleep with the windows open 3-5 days per year.  I know a guy who once 
 drove cabs in SF and made the best money during the summer from freezing 
 passengers.  You could also detour east of SF by 20 miles and get the Riv 
 tour.

 
-Ryan 

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I was using the right inserts for the pannier hooks, but on checking
my panniers, I see that I've lost several of them. They fall out, and
they break. I don't notice it on flat pavement, but on dirt they go
bumpity bumpity bumpity.

I'm going to follow your innertube/ziptie advice, though.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote:
 Anne-

 There are two sizes of inserts for the Orlieb clips; ensure you're using the
 ones that fit your rack tubing.  One size fits the Nitto rack on my Riv
 perfectly, the other size fits the Tubus on my KOM.


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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Dennis Hogan
+1 for John's Big Agnes system. I don't have it but wish I did. Am 
contemplating velcro to attach the bag to the pad but haven't tried the 
idea yet. Am also a side sleeper and find the bag and pad seem to have a 
-/+ relationship of mutual attraction leading to sore mornings.
Dennis in PDX

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-7, John Bennett wrote:

 Best sleep system, bar none, is made by Big Agnes. The inflatable pad fits 
 into a sleeve integrated in the bag. No more slipping off. Fantastic!

 https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/SleepingBags

 Cheers,

 John

 On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
 tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
 and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
 missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
 blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following bicycling 
 the pacific coast, but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
 interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
 i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 

 taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd 
 mini mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave 
 open for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided 
 cooler. 

 *rear rack/camper bag*

 tent

 sleeping bag/pad

 alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
 capability, but it's pretty heavy)

 bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff

 lock

 towel 

 camera 

 *tools/maintenance *

 2 tubes, levers and patch kit

 multi tool

 crescent wrench 

 pump


 *front panniers *

 5 t-shirts

 overshirt 

 2 musa or musa-like pants 

 2 shorts

 underwear/socks

 rain jacket

 packable down jacket

 sandals

 toiletries 

 chargers/ipod nano


  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
 but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
 clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
 people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
 strapped to their bikes. 
  


  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  




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[RBW] Last run of Sams?

2015-05-26 Thread Reid
Just received the latest email from Riv. Highlights the black Sam frames 
coming in, mentions frames coming in of the usual blue, then says, Last 
run. Sounds ominous. Does that mean what I think it means? Like if I 
kinda' think I want one, I'd better pry open my checkbook and shake out all 
the moths?

Reid

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[RBW] Re: Visting Portland

2015-05-26 Thread Dennis Hogan
Hey Kurt,
Check out the rides at the Portland Wheelman site (PWTC.com). They offer 
rides every day of the week that go all over PDX at various paces.
You'll get a good sense of the area and they almost always include a coffee 
stop.
Dennis in PDX

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:14:47 AM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:

 My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple 
 weeks and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
 enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of 
 having my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 

 Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
 Velo Cult. 

 Thanks!


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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
The romance has overtaken me! Panniers, saddlebag, handlebar bag, folder 
frontbag, rack trunk, frame bag, basket bag... as long as it's canvas and 
supported by steel and/or leather if at all practical... I love it. As for 
Arkel/Ortlieb/other... the fine well-engineered examples have decided 
advantages... sometimes it's shape, rigidity, organization, ruggedness, sheer 
size... But I love the romance. So give me canvas.

Saddlebags for a more carefree, lighter approach, with or without a rack. 
Panniers for larger loads or more potential. Front bag on the Bike Friday with 
its Brompton-style luggage mount. Handlebar bag for accessibility (though 
nothing beats RandiJo's Bartender for sheer convenience). Basket bags if 
baskets are already attached from some prior particular need. Rack trunks hold 
tools up front and a growler in the back.

Precisely because I can not just settle on which bag type is generally more 
useful/appealing I often end up (over years) with the near-complete gruppo of 
any bag brand/design I find appealing. Though of Ostriches I still have only 
the one  bag, the DLX pannier. The Big Bicycling! Excellent equipment!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: Last run of Sams?

2015-05-26 Thread drew
seems like a hiatus of at least a year. the ominous tone and the upcoming 
projects make me think it will be more than that. i was up there last 
weekend and they said that they received about 100 frames in this last 
shipment. speaking as someone who bought a sam when they financially really 
shouldnt havedo it. 

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[RBW] Re: How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread Marc Irwin
Mine is a single TT, so that probably contributes to their confusion.

Marc

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 10:44:40 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:

 I get this a lot also.  I'd say it's a 50/50 mix of people thinking it's 
 old and people who know what it is but have never seen one in person.  
 There's no doubt it's an attention getter,  I think it's mostly due to the 
 double top tube.  

 On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 11:49:44 AM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote:

   That is a reoccurring question I hear when out among bike enthusiasts. 
   Nobody cares about the production date or  from which batch it may have 
 come.
 People are always asking me how old it is.  They never ask that about the 
 Hunqapillar, just the Hillborne.  Some are surprised when I tell them it's 
 only 3 years old or so, but many just don't believe me.  Some have even 
 corrected me with, No, that's an English brand.  A friend of mine had one 
 in the '70's.  They will argue, pretending to know some deep secret about 
 the lug work that *They* just don't make 'em like that anymore.  When 
 I try to explain who *They* are, I'm ignored and, being the true 
 enthusiasts, they continue to compliment my find and they way I've built 
 it up with modern components.   It's happened a few times now.   Is it just 
 me, or has this happened to anybody else?


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n8XUms5K3vk/VWNus32_eGI/H7Q/nb5uViw4z0g/s1600/IMG_2266%2B%25281%2529%2B-%2BCopy.JPG
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[RBW] Re: Help Riv: Let people ride your bike

2015-05-26 Thread ascpgh
Same regarding other tools as well. Too often a dollar saved yields two 
dollars wasted once you get into ownership and use. 

Biggest return for purchase money among components on a bike's performance 
is obviously the frame/fork. Second I rate wheels, third crankset. 

I recall some '80s-'90s OEM bikes that were sought after because they had 
desirable OEM parts on a mediocre frame that you could buy complete then 
transfer  to a really good frame because of the smoking deals the part 
makers gave the brands for their volume.  The wheels could be rebuilt later 
with good parts and care. 

Others have more insight to this hierarchy of cost to performance returned 
in their own preferences?

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 11:49:38 AM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:


 PS: I am one of those foolish people who thought he could turn a Cross 
 Check into a Riv.  For the $2K+ I spent trying, I could have spent a few 
 bucks more and had many more years of enjoying my Hillborne.  Live and 
 learn!

 John

 On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 8:51:13 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote:

 Great idea, and I do let everyone interested ride my Sam Hillborne, but 
 most people just don't understand.  They think they can turn a Surly (just 
 an example) into a Rivendell.  There are exceptions but even they don't 
 seem to bite.  And for me, I'd love a SaddleSack, but it doesn't fit my 
 lifestyle.  I currently use an Ortleib Sport Packer pannier with its 
 easy-on easy-off shoulder strap carrying system.  I cannot see leaving a 
 $250 bag with all its belongings on a locked bike.  If anyone has a 
 solution to this dilemma please let me know because I'd love a well used 
 saddlesack with personal sewn on patches.  I'd even consider Rivendell's 
 panniers but they don't incorporate easy-on easy-off either.  But make no 
 mistake about it, I do promote Rivendell and support them as much as 
 possible; great company!

 On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 2:23:25 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:

 Boost sales at Rivendell by letting your friends test ride your bike! 
 Riv should see a few Bosco Bar orders and an order for Albatross Bars 
 simply because I have let people ride my old mountain bike with Bosco's and 
 my new Homer with Albas. Once people ride them, they are instantly sold on 
 getting them. Everybody likes my bell and my SaddleSacks (Large and Small) 
 as well. :-)

 Doug



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[RBW] Re: stupid stem question

2015-05-26 Thread Ron Mc
The Technomic is made in a 260mm that can be hunted out in UK and Japan  
Quick shopping found this very inexpensive option from the UK available as 
tall as you might want to go  
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-cat-tube-quill-stem-1-inch-222mm-254mm-bar-clamp-40mm-prod32276/?geoc=us
 
 
As to your original question, I've always taken the tack that if you can't 
see any of the insertion warning engraving you're doing OK

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 7:18:08 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:

 Regarding minimum insertion line.  does the minimum insertion line mean 
 'this far below the headset or below the locknuts or if you cant see 
 the line, you're good?  ive got about 5cm in below the headset, and 
 another 5cm taken up by locknut/cable hanger/spacer
 too little?

  father's day present bike building requires way high bars and even a 
 technomic is looking too short. 


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[RBW] Re: stupid stem question

2015-05-26 Thread Ron Mc
sorry, make that a Technomic 280mm 
 
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-quill-stem-1-inch-prod27441/?geoc=us
 
(pricey)

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:49:07 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 The Technomic is made in a 260mm that can be hunted out in UK and Japan  
 Quick shopping found this very inexpensive option from the UK available as 
 tall as you might want to go  

 http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-cat-tube-quill-stem-1-inch-222mm-254mm-bar-clamp-40mm-prod32276/?geoc=us
  
  
 As to your original question, I've always taken the tack that if you can't 
 see any of the insertion warning engraving you're doing OK

 On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 7:18:08 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:

 Regarding minimum insertion line.  does the minimum insertion line mean 
 'this far below the headset or below the locknuts or if you cant see 
 the line, you're good?  ive got about 5cm in below the headset, and 
 another 5cm taken up by locknut/cable hanger/spacer
 too little?

  father's day present bike building requires way high bars and even a 
 technomic is looking too short. 



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[RBW] Re: What is your preferred position for Paul Thumbies on Alba's?

2015-05-26 Thread Matthew J
Did a couple day tour on my 1x6 bike with Albas.  Here is a (too dark) shot 
from my friend's basement before heading out for the day:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EruU2fmNHEw/VWRvK6ticOI/AHo/lRtAkqdQI4c/s1600/Thumbies.jpg

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[RBW] Re: How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread Conway Bennett
Last summer I was stopped at a light in front of Wrigley and a reveler/passerby 
stopped and let me know that he knew what I'd done by taking an old bike and 
making it a hybrid.  

Now, I have a 2010 storm blue DTT non creamed head tube with a dirt drop and 
noodles, rolling on rock-n-roads.

FW,

CCB

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[RBW] Rubena Flash tires from RBW

2015-05-26 Thread Forrest
Is anyone familiar with Rubena tires, especially the Flash model? They came 
on a Sam Hillborne I just purchased new directly from RBW, although the 
invoice/description spec'd Schwalbe Marathon Greens. (I was a little 
surprised by the switch, but sometimes I'm not good at reading all 
pertinent text in material involving transactions.) They seem like decent 
tires, but I'm just not familiar with them. Probably everyone else on this 
group is, though. Thanks.


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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

2015-05-26 Thread Garth

If you were sold Marathon Greens then that's what you should get .  You 
should be calling Riv on this one . 

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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Ryan Fleming
yeah...I was looking and on one site the 2-nut which I have on both Rivs 
and my X0-1 was $145.00. $US. Ouch. Even still, CK has been the most 
trouble-free headset in my experience. I had the Tange Roller Ball on my 
A/R , but I had my local mechanic put in a Chris King. I kept the Roller 
ball and we used it for the X0-1 when the Tange Levin or Falcon (can't 
remember which)  pitted. My dear partner who's a pretty decent mechanic had 
a heck of a time getting the Roller ball to get and keep an adjustment. 
Maybe it just wasn't working for us as I've heard or read from others 
besides Patrick and GP that it's a fine headset. So eventually  the X0-1 
got a CK too We have cannibalized parts from that Roller ball 
 headset...maybe some bits are on my Peugeot. 
 
But CK are the headsets I would swear by and not at. Probably will want 
another one for the Riv mixte I'm contemplating.
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Didn't realize CKs have gone up in price as much as they have. I guess 
 that's because I haven't had to buy one in 14 years :-)

 CC make good headsets, I have their A3 models on on my threadless bikes.


 On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:50:41 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

  While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
  Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with 
 lower prices.

 I am a big CK fan.  Cane Creek 110 classic 1 is a very good alternative. 
  As with CK, CC is also MUSA.



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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Not only that.  Velo Orange sells the cartridge bearings separately and 
they just drop in.  If you wanted to really future proof your headset, you 
could buy a couple replacement bearings right at the start.  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:24:40 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Marco wrote:

 If you want sealed cartridge bearings try the VO Grand Cru 1 threaded 
 headset. Fit and finish were nice and sealed cartridge bearings were 
 smooth. I believe it retails around $50. 




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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

2015-05-26 Thread Beth H
I started using Flash tires about three years ago and have been happy with 
them. 
Average 40 to 60 miles a week commuting on these and have had one flat in 
the last year.
They roll fine and are considerably more affordable than the Schwalbe 
Marathons.
I'm using 26 x 1.5's but may go to a 1.75 next time around.
Beth Hamon

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 5:22:47 AM UTC-7, Forrest wrote:

 Is anyone familiar with Rubena tires, especially the Flash model?




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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Didn't realize CKs have gone up in price as much as they have. I guess 
that's because I haven't had to buy one in 14 years :-)

CC make good headsets, I have their A3 models on on my threadless bikes.


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:50:41 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

  While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
  Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with 
 lower prices.

 I am a big CK fan.  Cane Creek 110 classic 1 is a very good alternative. 
  As with CK, CC is also MUSA.


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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

2015-05-26 Thread Shawn Granton
Rubena is a Czech tire manufacturer, as as far as I know, the only 
all-European tire production company. While Schwalbe, Continental, etc. are 
European tire companies, much of their production is done in Asia and 
other places, while every Rubena tire is made in the Czech Republic. 
They've been making a push into the North American market in the past few 
years, and Cyclone here in Portland distributes them.

The Flash is, for want of a better term, their Marathon equivalent. 
Haven't had a pair, but know others who have and have had no complaints.

I've owned a few of their City Hoppers, which are a Big Apple equivalent, 
and I've liked them.

yours,
Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

2015-05-26 Thread Garth

Here is the best info of the many Rubena tire websites  :


http://www.rubena.eu/index.php?stranka=400scid=8

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Garth


Whatever headset you choose, just make sure you consider the stack height 
you have against any new one.  Any spacers in your stack can help you here 
if it's much larger as they can be replaced or lessened. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivelo is opening!

2015-05-26 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Awesome.  

The one thing which has been sadly missing in my RBWHQL visits has been 
the most enjoyable check-ins with Mr. Bennett.

Hope you folks up in Stumptown appreciate what you have!

(and I figure you do...)

- J

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 I came, I saw, I enjoyed: 

 http://bikelovejones1.blogspot.com/2015/05/theres-new-kid-in-town-rivelo.html
 Slow opening for now, official opening June 20.
 Fun, cute, lovely. Go and see.
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[RBW] Visting Portland

2015-05-26 Thread Kurt Manley
My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple weeks 
and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of 
having my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 

Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
Velo Cult. 

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1988 or 1989 Bridgestone Trail MB-4 rehab questions

2015-05-26 Thread Bruce Smitham
Those Bullmose might be the trick. They look really nice but if I remember
can be expensive. Thanks for the tip and pic.

Cheers,
Bruce

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Jeffrey unclecowb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oops, forgot to post a pic. Here it is with the Bullmoose bars.


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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Ryan Fleming
Dave makes a really good point. I think CKs are terrific,,,set and forget, 
but the nice IRD roller ball headset that Riv sells is probably about 
$50.00 cheaper
 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hsrd.htm
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:55:29 AM UTC-5, Dave Hallerman wrote:

  Price does not equal value, and price does not equal cost.

 While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
 Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with lower 
 prices.

 For instance, I recently removed a threaded Chris King headset from a bike 
 that has about 8000 miles on it, and I had installed that CK headset about 
 16 years ago (!!!) with no maintenance in that period.

 And the CK headset is still smooth and functional, ready to be installed 
 again.

 That's real value, and that's actually a lower cost per mile.

 Dave, who removed this CK headset only because he's doing a total 
 overhaul on this particular Ibis road bike

 On 5/26/15 11:44 AM, Darin G. wrote:
  
 I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
 can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
 bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
 is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
 other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
 replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
 but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
 are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
 the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
 be appreciated!. 

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed Conversion Help

2015-05-26 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
My exact same experience. I couldn't get the Torx seat adjustment bolt 
anywhere near tight enough to hold the seat, and began to strip it. Emailed 
the problem, and he sent an Allen as a replacement which works perfectly! 


On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:

 On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 3:46:42 PM UTC-7, Will wrote:

 Another option is to use security bolts. This link will have everything 
 you'd use to secure parts to the frame: stem, racks, brakes, seat post, 
 seat on post, derailers, etc... 

 http://bicyclebolts.com/collections/security-allen-bolts/

 I guess I am reacting to de-constructing a well thought out, and well 
 equipped, bike.



 As a customer, I have a couple of recommendations if you decide to go with 
 this vendor:

1. Don't get the Torx security bolts as they are (surprisingly) 
difficult to get any torque on. The Allen is fine though, and the vendor 
was nice enough to replace my Torx ones for Allen after I provided the 
feedback.
2. The supplied tool's quality can be better. They are good for a 
couple of uses but if you have a bunch of bolts, you may want to get a set 
of real security Allen wrenches.

 The shipping charge is also very reasonable and the vendor stands behind 
 his products. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase again (and in fact will soon).


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Re: [RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread David Hallerman

Wow, a testimonial with the following points being made:

* Tightening was tricky.
* Doesn't have the feel of other headsets.
* Difficult to install upper and lower races.
* Much greater difficulty.
* Chrome stripped off.

Wow, please don't offer a testimonial to this post of mine.

Dave, who reiterates that in general final price is not your real cost 
nor your real value in many things not just headsets and adds that many 
people here have really really nice bikes so scrimping doesn't make 
sense unless money is very tight


On 5/26/15 12:33 PM, George Schick wrote:
This might be a good time for a testimonial for the IRD needle bearing 
headset Riv sells.  The Shimano headset on my Rambouillet indexed 
about 4 years ago so I started looking for replacements.  I like the 
Chris King products, but thought I'd give the IRD a shot, since Grant 
sold the idea of needle bearings for the lower race.  So far it's 
worked flawlessly and I do not detect any of the sluggishness that 
Grant described on the Riv web page.  So I'd say give it a try if you 
want to go in that direction.  Tightening the headset was tricky; I 
had to re-tighten it once or twice after riding for a while because it 
doesn't seem to have the feel of the bearing movement that ordinary 
ball-types do.  But once I got it dialed-in it was OK.


Installation was a different matter, however.  First of all, it comes 
packed in a light corrosion inhibitor of some sort.  Opening 
everything up and looking at the lower race components made me think 
of a miniature version of an automobile front axle tapered bearing 
set.  So I had to decide what kind of grease to use on everything.  I 
wound up just using the regular Phil grease and it's worked fine. 
 Pressing the upper and lower races into the head tube was one of the 
most difficult operations.  I had everything well greased both inside 
the head tube as well as around the races, but it went in with much 
greater difficulty than any headset I can recall installing.  Not sure 
why this was.  In fact, some of the chrome stripped off of the lower 
race during the process.  But I finally got it in there OK.  I would 
definitely not recommend installing this (or any headset, for that 
matter) without a decent installation tool, either like the one Park 
makes or an improvised equivalent.  Then, getting the old crown race 
off of the fork was a major challenge.  Whoever installed it needs to 
think hard and long about how to do things - it was very un-Riv-like. 
 Instead of sanding off the paint and primer and then greasing the 
steering tube, they just hammered on there over paint and everything, 
sans grease.  Never do that. It took lots of hammering with a drift 
punch.  I'm not sure that even a bone fide crown race puller would've 
budged it.  But that's all a different matter, unrelated to the IRD 
itself.


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote:

I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop
says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we
switched the bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm
researching a new one. This is the second headset I've had that
was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the other being the original
Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a replacement that
will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past but they
seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there
are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also
considering the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.
 Other ideas would be appreciated!.

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[RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Darin G.
I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
be appreciated!.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

2015-05-26 Thread Daniel Jackson
Mark, what versions of the tire were ya'll running?

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 2:07:03 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Just finished a 7 day gravel tour, including the Oregon outback. Tires are 
 shredded. My buddy graham had two rear blowouts and a dime sized piece of 
 tire in the middle tear out. I have some big slashes halfway through the 
 tread and the knobs are showing signs of tearing. These tires roll so 
 nicely but seem to be too soft for loaded gnarly road touring. Full report 
 to come...



 On May 25, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Mark Reimers buddy on the OOB slashed a TB. Still waiting to hear which 
 version he was running. The weight savings was so nominal I chose puncture 
 resistance.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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 On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I'm running Snakeskin but wish I'd gotten the plain, most supple. Next 
 time, and then I'll know. My understanding is: Snakeskin = sidewall 
 protection and best for tubeless; Raceguard = puncture protection.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 Hey Deacon,

 What model Burt are you running? Snakeskin, Raceguard, none of the 
 above? Any idea about differences in puncture resistance between the 
 Snakeskin and Raceguard forms?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

2015-05-26 Thread Daniel Jackson
So if I were to go with Schwalbe for dirt road touring, would Nobby Nics or 
Smart Sams be a smarter choice? Other alternatives that folks have tried? 
Maxxis Ardents? 

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-6, David G wrote:


 In the MTB world Schwalbe is known for making fast (low rolling 
 resistance)  but relatively fragile tires. Here in SoCal many mountain 
 bikers who enjoy bombing down gnarly downhills eschew them because of their 
 relatively low longevity, even with Snakeskin or Super Gravity enhanced 
 construction. 

 Thunder Burt is the fastest Schwalbe tire available for XC MTB racing. 
 It's what a pro would choose for trying to win the XC gold medal at the 
 Olympics (if she wasn't running something more exotic like a tubular). 

 Loaded backcountry touring is way way off the intended use grid for 
 Thunder Burts. Not to say it is a bad idea, just that (many/severe) flats 
 are to be expected. 

 Snakeskin only means more durable sidewalls, not additional puncture/cut 
 protection under the tread. 

 Sealant will only seal punctures and small cuts. 

 I really like Schwalbe Evolution line XC tires like Thunder Burt and 
 Racing Ralph for trail riding (and even more delicate tires like Compass 
 Babyshoe Pass and Pacenti Pari Moto). I'm willing to accept a much higher 
 risk of flats and limited tire lifespan to get that sweet ride. I carry 
 spare tubes and tube patches and sealant and a tire boot patch. 

 For a multiday off-road bikepacking with Thunder Burts carrying a spare 
 tire would be a good idea. I've read that you can fix major casing cuts in 
 the field with a needle and dental floss plus shoe goo, but I've never had 
 to try that yet. 

 - David G in San Diego 


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  Yeah, wonder what the carried weight amount was. Bummer that they 
  didn't hold up as hoped for... 
  
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 javascript: wrote: 
  Mike, 
  
  Mark  his buddy Graham were rolling with the snakeskin's. But yeah 
 they're 
  race tires not originally designed for loaded touring. I'm bummed to 
 hear 
  how they didn't hold up, still gonna ride with em, even though Mark's 
  experience...at least for now. 
  
  ~Hugh 
  
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 javascript: wrote: 
  
  The TB's are considered a race tire by Schwalbe.  I would only use 
 the 
  Snakeskin version for extended off-road touring.  They are wonderful 
 tires. 
  
  I've been using Panaracer Comets recently, less supple but more 
 durable 
  and roll pretty good on pavement. 
  
  ~mike 
  Carlsbad Ca 
  
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[RBW] Re: 1988 or 1989 Bridgestone Trail MB-4 rehab questions

2015-05-26 Thread Jeffrey
You were asking for sporty--of the bars I tried the Bullmoose was really 
wonderful. If I was using it as a 'montain bike' that's what I would use, 
hands down.

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[RBW] Re: 1988 or 1989 Bridgestone Trail MB-4 rehab questions

2015-05-26 Thread Jeffrey
Oops, forgot to post a pic. Here it is with the Bullmoose bars.

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Garth

When my American Classic Trilock top crack , instead of replacing the whole 
thing I just bought a Tange Levin CDS and installed the top only.  The 
bottom cartridge of the Trilock was still fine so I need not bother 
replacing it.  

So you could just put the good bearing back in the bottom and replace the 
top with something like the Levin CDS, they're less than a $20 bill :) 

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Ginz
Cane Creek makes a nice 1 headset and, if I recall correctly, it is a bit 
more affordable than the Chris King.
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread David Hallerman

Price does not equal value, and price does not equal cost.

While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with 
lower prices.


For instance, I recently removed a threaded Chris King headset from a 
bike that has about 8000 miles on it, and I had installed that CK 
headset about 16 years ago (!!!) with no maintenance in that period.


And the CK headset is still smooth and functional, ready to be installed 
again.


That's real value, and that's actually a lower cost per mile.

Dave, who removed this CK headset only because he's doing a total 
overhaul on this particular Ibis road bike


On 5/26/15 11:44 AM, Darin G. wrote:
I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop 
says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we 
switched the bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching 
a new one. This is the second headset I've had that was worn out by 
the 3500 mile mark, the other being the original Tange on my 
Hillborne, and I'm searching for a replacement that will last.  I've 
considered the CK headsets in the past but they seem mighty expensive 
and while most reviews are positive there are some reviews suggesting 
they are not worth the money.  Also considering the IRD needle roller 
bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would be appreciated!.


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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread George Schick
This might be a good time for a testimonial for the IRD needle bearing 
headset Riv sells.  The Shimano headset on my Rambouillet indexed about 4 
years ago so I started looking for replacements.  I like the Chris King 
products, but thought I'd give the IRD a shot, since Grant sold the idea 
of needle bearings for the lower race.  So far it's worked flawlessly and I 
do not detect any of the sluggishness that Grant described on the Riv web 
page.  So I'd say give it a try if you want to go in that direction. 
 Tightening the headset was tricky; I had to re-tighten it once or twice 
after riding for a while because it doesn't seem to have the feel of the 
bearing movement that ordinary ball-types do.  But once I got it dialed-in 
it was OK.

Installation was a different matter, however.  First of all, it comes 
packed in a light corrosion inhibitor of some sort.  Opening everything up 
and looking at the lower race components made me think of a miniature 
version of an automobile front axle tapered bearing set.  So I had to 
decide what kind of grease to use on everything.  I wound up just using the 
regular Phil grease and it's worked fine.  Pressing the upper and lower 
races into the head tube was one of the most difficult operations.  I had 
everything well greased both inside the head tube as well as around the 
races, but it went in with much greater difficulty than any headset I can 
recall installing.  Not sure why this was.  In fact, some of the chrome 
stripped off of the lower race during the process.  But I finally got it in 
there OK.  I would definitely not recommend installing this (or any 
headset, for that matter) without a decent installation tool, either like 
the one Park makes or an improvised equivalent.  Then, getting the old 
crown race off of the fork was a major challenge.  Whoever installed it 
needs to think hard and long about how to do things - it was very 
un-Riv-like.  Instead of sanding off the paint and primer and then greasing 
the steering tube, they just hammered on there over paint and everything, 
sans grease.  Never do that. It took lots of hammering with a drift punch. 
 I'm not sure that even a bone fide crown race puller would've budged it. 
 But that's all a different matter, unrelated to the IRD itself.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote:

 I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
 can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
 bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
 is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
 other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
 replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
 but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
 are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
 the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
 be appreciated!.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Single Speed Conversion Help

2015-05-26 Thread Patrick Moore
In this vein, you could do a faux Rambouillet color job using orange duct
tape. Someone on the boblist did this with his beater commuter and it
actually looked quite good from a distance, but I'd guess that any thief
would be so non-plussed upon a close-up view that he'd be likely to give
the bike a miss.

I wish I'd kept the photo.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Philip Williamson 
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 I put stickers all over the bikes I build from the parts bin. Value is in
 the cables! The last one really came together when I splurged on new
 bars and pedals.

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread Garth
When my American Classic Trilock top crack , instead of replacing the whole 
thing I just bought a Tange Levin CDS and installed the top only.  The 
bottom cartridge of the Trilock was still fine so I need not bother 
replacing it.  

So you could just put the good bearing back in the bottom and replace the 
top with something like the Levin CDS, or if you want another cartdridge 
for the top just get one but you could keep the 105 until it craps out. 


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Re: [RBW] Visting Portland

2015-05-26 Thread Eric Norris
Stop by 21st Avenue Bicycles and say “hi” to my daughter, Sarah.

Grab a beer and some great pub food at Rogue.

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 On May 26, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Kurt Manley kurtaman...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple weeks 
 and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
 enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of having 
 my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 
 
 Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
 Velo Cult. 
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

2015-05-26 Thread Mike Shaljian
It would seem like the Schwalbe 'Rock Razor' might be a good model to try for 
dirt touring 
(http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/off-road_tires/Rock_Razor). . .

I've been searching for the perfect medium-duty touring tire as well. I have 
helped a friend setup some Super Motos as tubeless on her 29+ bike and am going 
to do the same on mine, in order to have a go faster wheelset along with my 
3 Chupacabras. The trouble with the Lite-Skin Super Motos is that the sidewall 
is very leaky and the tires don't have a TL-Easy/Ready bead. Hers seem to be 
starting to hold pressure after a week of fussing. 

Due to the leaky nature of Super Motos, I've considered the option of getting 
some Rock Razors and sanding off the nubs to have a TL-Ready, 2.35 tire that 
would be fit for lighter touring and fast gravel/paved road rides. If this was 
going to be your main loaded dirt touring tire the nubs would obviously help! 

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[RBW] How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread LeahFoy
My Betty Foy gets confused for a beach cruiser which irks me to no end. I've 
had her since 2012, and only once out in public did anyone appreciate what she 
is. I was biking to school with my sons one day and a dad, who was doing the 
exact same thing, remarked about the awesomeness of my bike. He thought I'd 
gotten it at a bike show here in Vegas. Though our bike tastes differed (he had 
a different bike every time I saw him, and all low saddles and he was a racer) 
he knew quality when he was riding behind it!

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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
Hey, there's an open lower triangle on the stoker spot that would take a 
frame bag.  That would let you carry even more stuff.  Love the shot of 
bike stuck in the gate.  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 The lady-friend writes.
 We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, 
 made s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit 
 all my extra luggage on our bike!

 Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
 https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A


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[RBW] Re: How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread Will
Well... your alternative is to whip out the cell phone, snag the Riv site 
and prove the newness.

Problem is: future FIL will do the math and come up with $4000. 

That may or may not be what you want. :-)

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:

 Ha ha.  i had an in depth conversation with the fiancee's dad, regarding 
 my hunqapillar, where he kept telling me that my bike was in amazing 
 condition and that he used to have bikes like mine years ago.  i must have 
 told him it was new 7 or 8 times and each time he just ignored me or 
 reassured me that i had done a great job restoring it. no,no this is a new 
 bike. it does look new. you did a great job. and you were able to find 
 new components that would work on it?


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[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne and a question

2015-05-26 Thread Minh
gah, always sucky to hear this, check the posts from last week, i think 
someone was selling an 62 SO/QB recently.  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:54:45 AM UTC-4, donavanm wrote:

 As the subject says, theres another stolen SimpleOne out there now. Last 
 Thursday night I was out at Golden Gardens in Seattle enjoying the sunset 
 with some friends. Bikes were parked ~15 feet away on the beach, which was 
 far enough for someone to make off unnoticed. They kindly left another 
 friends tandem and my helmet plus gloves behind. Already reported to SPD 
 etc, though I have little hope of recovery.

 First was my daily commuter, 62CM SimpleOne frame serial M105. At time 
 of theft included black revelate frame bag, black Haulin Colin front rack + 
 wald basket, Supernova light, Velo Orange branded SP dynamo hub, salsa 
 delgado rims, silver Paul cantilever brakes, schwalbe little big ben tires. 
 https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46199

 Second was a friends 1993 XO-2, purple paint, 54cm frame, 
 serial H220098. At time of theft included silver rear rack, white bar tape, 
 salsa 38cm short and shallow drop bars, nitto periscopa stem, bar end 
 shifters, original deore 3x7 drive train, original wheelset. 
 https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46200

 And now the question, suggestions for a similar single speed frame? The 
 SimpleOne was my favoritist bike, used for daily commuting, shenanigans, 
 and bike camping. Im seriously considering getting a clone custom made, but 
 would like a replacement in a sooner time frame. Are there any production 
 frames with a similar 72.5/72.5 and midlong chainstay geometry? If nothing 
 else I might round up an 80s steel touring frame and throw a SimpleOne fork 
 on it.


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[RBW] Re: How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread Evan E.
One day, at a stop light, a roadie glanced over at my Sam and said That's 
a classic. I suspect he wasn't familiar with the bike and just figured it 
was old. But he said it in a nice way. And hey, he was right: it IS a 
classic.

Evan

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
My LBS installed an IRD roller bearing headset on my Atlantis.  The removal 
of the old one  installation of the IRD was routine.  I watched  no 
unusual measures were needed.  I adjusted it myself to get it just right 
 it's been trouble free  smooth since installation.  Don't recall when it 
was but Rivendell had just started promoting them at the time.  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 8:44:27 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:

 I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
 can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
 bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
 is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
 other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
 replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
 but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
 are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
 the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
 be appreciated!.



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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Neil
Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes, 
but preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp.

Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although it 
wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of my 
puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at the end of the day to have this single layer over 
a cotton t-shirt rather than layers of wool and nylon.

Also, regarding transport of cooler-type items...I've always had great luck 
burying beer, cheese, meat, etc. in my down coat and/or sleeping bag deep 
in a pannier. Beer keeps cold all day, even through the late-summer heat of 
Oregon. Cans R better, of course.

Oh, one other consideration...my buddy insists on bringing his 
backpacking-type camp chair on bike overnights. This isn't one of the older 
Thermarest-style ones, but a modern one from REI with legs. Weight is 
negligible to me, I think less than a pound, but is slightly bulky (like a 
large Nalgene bottle).

I feel this item is overkill if you are in developed campgounds with picnic 
tables, and yet I always find myself stealing time in his chair while he is 
off doing camp chores. For bandit camping with no facilities, if the 
options are sitting on the ground or on a chair, I would bring this chair.

Have fun on your trip, sounds like a blast!

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
 tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
 and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
 missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
 blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following bicycling 
 the pacific coast, but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
 interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
 i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 

 taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini 
 mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open 
 for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 

 *rear rack/camper bag*

 tent

 sleeping bag/pad

 alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
 capability, but it's pretty heavy)

 bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff

 lock

 towel 

 camera 

 *tools/maintenance *

 2 tubes, levers and patch kit

 multi tool

 crescent wrench 

 pump


 *front panniers *

 5 t-shirts

 overshirt 

 2 musa or musa-like pants 

 2 shorts

 underwear/socks

 rain jacket

 packable down jacket

 sandals

 toiletries 

 chargers/ipod nano


  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
 but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
 clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
 people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
 strapped to their bikes. 
  


  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  




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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

2015-05-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Manny

That is very very rad.  Did you just roll in to a hiker-biker site?  Or did 
you need to reserve a site?

Bill


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 The lady-friend writes.
 We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, 
 made s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit 
 all my extra luggage on our bike!

 Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
 https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A


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Re: [RBW] Re: 03 Curt Goodrich Riv custom out for life-altering surgery.

2015-05-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Mike: curious: why 622 to 584?

In any event, please post photos when you get it back. I've seen a
relatively recent fatbike build Chauncey did, with custom integrated rack,
and it's very well done.

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

 hopefully he's almost finished with the mods to my 29er to 650B+
 conversion.

 No wet paint and cream headtube?

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.


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[RBW] Re: Lots of reconfiguration, resulting in three handlebar tape jobs this weekend.

2015-05-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Micheal

Yes, those are White VBC cranks. 44/30.  

I did get out yesterday for a quick ride.  I have a little 20 mile out and 
back that includes about 1000ft of climbing.  Bombing down Wildcat Canyon 
road, I was impressed at how powerful the 40+ year old M.A.F.A.C. Racers 
are (koolstop inserts, natch).  The stock levers are a bit of a reach from 
the hooks but I can get used to that I suppose.  Maybe I'll make a reach 
adjuster.  The fronts howled like a banshee when I rode the bike around the 
block, but already they are quieting down, consistent with what Jan has 
said about these brakes.  The toe-in was dead flat.  The rears are silent, 
thusfar.  I'm shocked at the braking power given the waif-like minimalism 
of the forged arms.  I expect Paul Racers and Racer-Ms to be powerful 
because they look so burly and industrial.  

Anyway, so far so good.  No shimmy to speak of.  Did it plane?  I guess so. 
 Haha.  

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 4:48:52 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 That's so much bike building I'd almost think it must be raining in the 
 East Bay.  A very nice mix of old and new.  Are those the White VBC cranks? 
  I'll be interested to read how the brakes live up to their reputation. 
  Personally, starting from scratch (and at 70 that's not likely to happen) 
  I'd go with good cants.  I have both Paul's posted Racers (on the tandem) 
 and Racer Ms (on the Ram) and they are both great brakes, but on balance I 
 find my Neo Retros the easiest to live with - best tire/fender clearance, 
 stopping power  moderation.

 Michael

 On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 6:56:12 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I did a new build, another Rawland.  This time it's a Nordavinden, their 
 700c road bike offering.  I had centerpull posts installed and built it up 
 as a modernish Jan Heine special.  Here's THE BUILD 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/17135607534/.  And here is 
 the tape-job, IN PROGRESS 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/17871710839/in/dateposted-public/.
   
 The fun thing about this tape-job, is that the classic M.A.F.A.C. levers 
 have no hoods, so you tape the bars with the levers off, and install them 
 afterwards over the top.  It's kind of fun.  

 My other road bike, a Black Mountain, donated several parts to the 
 Rawland.  So, now the somewhat reconfigured Black Mountain needed a tape 
 job.  It was my first time to use the newish Newbaums Khaki

 HERE SHE IS 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/17870405660/in/dateposted-public/

 I also decided to add red Newbaums to my Bosco Bullmooses.  The first 
 coat of shellac is DRYING 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/17870171348/in/dateposted-public/.
   
 I'm also trying out the thumbshifters way up front, partially to get the 
 housing out of the way of my basket.  

 Enjoy your weekend!



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[RBW] Re: FS: SaddleSack, Large, Olive

2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Price drop to $180 w/ shipping CONUS.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 12:10:07 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 For sale is a large Olive Saddle Sack. $200 w/ shipping CONUS via PayPal 
 to this email. Condition is well loved and in perfect working order. All 
 leather is oiled, supple, broken in. The bag has beausage, so consider it 
 pre-broken in. Still completely waterproof (as sponge cleaning just 
 verified) and easy to clean (as sponge cleaning just verified).

 Photos in use:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/17353501244/in/dateposted-public/
 and

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/17353499714/in/dateposted-public/

 If this is so beloved, why sell? I learned on yesterday’s ride, shown in 
 the photos above) that that much weight on top of the rack is problematic 
 for my vertigo and clearly contributed to my loss of brain energy on 
 bikepacking trips in the past two years. So I am using panniers now.

 Please email off group with inquiries. Thank you!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

  


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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread dougP
After seen the photos attached to Manny's post Mashley S24O Half Moon 
Bay, I withdraw my previous suggestion about leaving behind the down 
jacket.  Those pix have got me thinking maybe I need one.

dougP

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
 tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
 and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
 missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
 blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following bicycling 
 the pacific coast, but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
 interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
 i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 

 taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini 
 mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open 
 for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 

 *rear rack/camper bag*

 tent

 sleeping bag/pad

 alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
 capability, but it's pretty heavy)

 bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff

 lock

 towel 

 camera 

 *tools/maintenance *

 2 tubes, levers and patch kit

 multi tool

 crescent wrench 

 pump


 *front panniers *

 5 t-shirts

 overshirt 

 2 musa or musa-like pants 

 2 shorts

 underwear/socks

 rain jacket

 packable down jacket

 sandals

 toiletries 

 chargers/ipod nano


  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
 but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
 clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
 people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
 strapped to their bikes. 
  


  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  




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[RBW] Re: How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread William deRosset
Dear Marc,

Three weekends ago, on my first 300K ride with the club in a couple of 
years, Wow, you updated a vintage bike. Who did the repaint? Where/when 
was it built?

Well, the frame was built in Wisconsin for me in early April, and the 
parts are mostly from the pile of stuff I collect in my shed. I did have to 
machine a new compression cap for the steerer-mounted light switch. That 
seemed to steer the conversation on the club ride either to how fit I must 
be to keep up on a 'heavy' bike (sandbagging ensues, but I've got nothing 
to back it up besides bronchitis and a lingering shoulder separation), into 
deep bike geekery, or on to the probability of rain/headwinds (my preferred 
outcome).

https://goo.gl/JYIho9

I've gotten one comment that bugged me (until it was hilarious):

Is that a rental?

Yeah, nothing handles like one, either.

I liked that one even more than, Wow, your right arm must get a workout. 
(I was riding a bike with downtube shifters.)

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 12:49:44 PM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote:

   That is a reoccurring question I hear when out among bike enthusiasts.   
 Nobody cares about the production date or  from which batch it may have 
 come.
 People are always asking me how old it is.  They never ask that about the 
 Hunqapillar, just the Hillborne.  Some are surprised when I tell them it's 
 only 3 years old or so, but many just don't believe me.  Some have even 
 corrected me with, No, that's an English brand.  A friend of mine had one 
 in the '70's.  They will argue, pretending to know some deep secret about 
 the lug work that *They* just don't make 'em like that anymore.  When I 
 try to explain who *They* are, I'm ignored and, being the true 
 enthusiasts, they continue to compliment my find and they way I've built 
 it up with modern components.   It's happened a few times now.   Is it just 
 me, or has this happened to anybody else?


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n8XUms5K3vk/VWNus32_eGI/H7Q/nb5uViw4z0g/s1600/IMG_2266%2B%25281%2529%2B-%2BCopy.JPG
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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm taking longing looks at this sitting pad:
http://www.rei.com/product/829881/therm-a-rest-z-seat-pad?cm_mmc=cse_PLA-_-pla_multichannel-_-8298810001mr:trackingCode=8338A8F1-E449-E111-BC1B-001B21631C34mr:referralID=NAmr:device=cmr:adType=pla_multichannelonlinemr:ad=52774012000mr:keyword=mr:match=mr:filter=126983827960msid=ovjLvtDz_dc|pcrid|52774012000|lsft=cm_mmc:cse_PLA#tab-specs

Now that I've decided to use rear rack and panniers for my Divide trip
(starts next month, yikes) I have somewhere to strap that little 2 oz
pad. It would be so very handy.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Neil neil.h.do...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes, but
 preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp.

 Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although it
 wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of my
 puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at the end of the day to have this single layer over
 a cotton t-shirt rather than layers of wool and nylon.

 Also, regarding transport of cooler-type items...I've always had great luck
 burying beer, cheese, meat, etc. in my down coat and/or sleeping bag deep in
 a pannier. Beer keeps cold all day, even through the late-summer heat of
 Oregon. Cans R better, of course.

 Oh, one other consideration...my buddy insists on bringing his
 backpacking-type camp chair on bike overnights. This isn't one of the older
 Thermarest-style ones, but a modern one from REI with legs. Weight is
 negligible to me, I think less than a pound, but is slightly bulky (like a
 large Nalgene bottle).

 I feel this item is overkill if you are in developed campgounds with picnic
 tables, and yet I always find myself stealing time in his chair while he is
 off doing camp chores. For bandit camping with no facilities, if the options
 are sitting on the ground or on a chair, I would bring this chair.

 Have fun on your trip, sounds like a blast!

 On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first
 tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there and
 see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im
 missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've blocked
 out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following bicycling the
 pacific coast, but if there are preferable route options, i'd be interested
 in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but i have some
 time, and i like thinking about it.

 taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini
 mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open
 for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler.

 rear rack/camper bag

 tent

 sleeping bag/pad

 alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging
 capability, but it's pretty heavy)

 bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff

 lock

 towel

 camera

 tools/maintenance

 2 tubes, levers and patch kit

 multi tool

 crescent wrench

 pump


 front panniers

 5 t-shirts

 overshirt

 2 musa or musa-like pants

 2 shorts

 underwear/socks

 rain jacket

 packable down jacket

 sandals

 toiletries

 chargers/ipod nano


  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list,
 but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside
 clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what
 people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff
 strapped to their bikes.






































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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Anne, are you not taking a sleeping pad? If I use a pad to sit on (I 
usually don't) I just use my sleeping pad (a cut-down Thermarest Ridge foam 
like that).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I'm taking longing looks at this sitting pad: 

 http://www.rei.com/product/829881/therm-a-rest-z-seat-pad?cm_mmc=cse_PLA-_-pla_multichannel-_-8298810001mr:trackingCode=8338A8F1-E449-E111-BC1B-001B21631C34mr:referralID=NAmr:device=cmr:adType=pla_multichannelonlinemr:ad=52774012000mr:keyword=mr:match=mr:filter=126983827960msid=ovjLvtDz_dc|pcrid|52774012000|lsft=cm_mmc:cse_PLA#tab-specs
  

 Now that I've decided to use rear rack and panniers for my Divide trip 
 (starts next month, yikes) I have somewhere to strap that little 2 oz 
 pad. It would be so very handy. 

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Neil neil.h...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes, 
 but 
  preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp. 
  
  Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although 
 it 
  wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of 
 my 
  puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at the end of the day to have this single layer 
 over 
  a cotton t-shirt rather than layers of wool and nylon. 
  
  Also, regarding transport of cooler-type items...I've always had great 
 luck 
  burying beer, cheese, meat, etc. in my down coat and/or sleeping bag 
 deep in 
  a pannier. Beer keeps cold all day, even through the late-summer heat of 
  Oregon. Cans R better, of course. 
  
  Oh, one other consideration...my buddy insists on bringing his 
  backpacking-type camp chair on bike overnights. This isn't one of the 
 older 
  Thermarest-style ones, but a modern one from REI with legs. Weight is 
  negligible to me, I think less than a pound, but is slightly bulky (like 
 a 
  large Nalgene bottle). 
  
  I feel this item is overkill if you are in developed campgounds with 
 picnic 
  tables, and yet I always find myself stealing time in his chair while he 
 is 
  off doing camp chores. For bandit camping with no facilities, if the 
 options 
  are sitting on the ground or on a chair, I would bring this chair. 
  
  Have fun on your trip, sounds like a blast! 
  
  On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: 
  
  so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
  tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out 
 there and 
  see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
  missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
 blocked 
  out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following bicycling the 
  pacific coast, but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
 interested 
  in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but i have 
 some 
  time, and i like thinking about it. 
  
  taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd 
 mini 
  mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave 
 open 
  for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 
  
  rear rack/camper bag 
  
  tent 
  
  sleeping bag/pad 
  
  alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
  capability, but it's pretty heavy) 
  
  bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff 
  
  lock 
  
  towel 
  
  camera 
  
  tools/maintenance 
  
  2 tubes, levers and patch kit 
  
  multi tool 
  
  crescent wrench 
  
  pump 
  
  
  front panniers 
  
  5 t-shirts 
  
  overshirt 
  
  2 musa or musa-like pants 
  
  2 shorts 
  
  underwear/socks 
  
  rain jacket 
  
  packable down jacket 
  
  sandals 
  
  toiletries 
  
  chargers/ipod nano 
  
  
   i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o 
 list, 
  but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
  clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
  people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
  strapped to their bikes. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[RBW] Re: stupid stem question

2015-05-26 Thread WETH
http://americancyclery.com/collections/nitto/products/nitto-technomics-280mm-1-quill-stem-26-0-clamp
I bought mine from American Cyclery.

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed Conversion Help

2015-05-26 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch
'coming into this game late, but I've noticed that most campuses have some 
sort of bike rental program, usually consisting of wrecks recovered by 
campus security and not claimed.
 

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 1:53:41 AM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:

 My son ( a 2nd year college student) just informed me, on his actual 
 return trip today to the University, that he may need a bike to get to 
 his summer job. (Those of you with teenagers, or have who have raised 
 teenagers, can probably sympathize with me).  Huh? And why didn't you tell 
 me this while you were at home all week?.  Anyway, he's a really strong 
 rider but has not shown any ownership interest till now.  I don't even  
 think he can  fix a flat tire let alone maintain a bike.  So I'm thinking 
 simplicity is best.  In other words, I'd be happy if it didn't get stolen 
 and he occasionally lubricated the chain. But don't get me wrong, there is 
 nothing more I'd want than for my son to get bitten by the bicycling 
 lifestyle, so I want him to enjoy the ride.  But as we all know, the love 
 of bicycling is an evolution, only appreciated by those who have 
 transcended the ranks, and he will be skipping a few steps :(

 I have a 1986 10-speed Nishiki with horizontal dropouts that I put some 
 money into Rivendell'izing before getting my Sam Hillborne.   I'm thinking 
 I will take off the valuable stuff (Nittto handlebar and stem, leather 
 seat, decent wheelset, early 80's Backburn rear rack, etc.), and replace 
 them with UC Berkeley street worthy stuff I have on hand.  But I'm also 
 thinking a single-speed conversion could be smart simply for its ... 
 simplicity, and the further removal of valuable transmission parts.  Theft 
 is a real concern.  However, I'm not knowledgeable in single-speed 
 conversion setups and do not have a lot of time.  I'd love to research all 
 the ins and outs of converting my beloved 1986 Nishiki 10-speeed to a 
 single speed but with such late notice I simply do not have time.  I have 
 between now and next Friday.  And between now and next Friday, I have a 
 couple days of pay-the-bills work and my youngest daughters High School 
 graduation (which includes the visitation and entertainment of the in-laws 
 and out-laws) to determine if I should convert to single speed or just 
 replace the obvious and leave well enough alone.  So, if those of you that 
 have experience with single speed conversion would care to share your 
 expertise I'd be grateful.  Keep in mind this conversion must be done 
 economically.  This is not supposed to be up to Rivendell standards.  For 
 example, I'm thinking, at least for the summer anyhow, simply removing the 
 front and rear derailleurs, shifters and associated cables of course, and 
 continue to use the existing triple crank set and freewheel/cassette (?).  
 However, if it can be done cheaply, I'd much rather replace the 
 crank/rings, as well as the freewheel, with single speed components because 
 of the confusion it may cause my son during roadside repairs.  However, I 
 do not have the time to re-dish wheels or resize axles.  What do you all 
 think?   

 And for those of you familiar with the Berkeley Hills around campus,  is 
 single speed even feasible? 

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Single Speed Conversion Help

2015-05-26 Thread Philip Williamson
I put stickers all over the bikes I build from the parts bin. Value is in the 
cables! The last one really came together when I splurged on new bars and 
pedals.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread drew
Ha ha.  i had an in depth conversation with the fiancee's dad, regarding my 
hunqapillar, where he kept telling me that my bike was in amazing condition 
and that he used to have bikes like mine years ago.  i must have told him 
it was new 7 or 8 times and each time he just ignored me or reassured me 
that i had done a great job restoring it. no,no this is a new bike. it 
does look new. you did a great job. and you were able to find new 
components that would work on it?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

2015-05-26 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Patrick, Furious Fred is lighter, Thunder Burt




On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:55 PM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:


 In the MTB world Schwalbe is known for making fast (low rolling
 resistance)  but relatively fragile tires.


 For the record, the Big Apple obviously not a dedicated off road tire, is
 very sturdy while still rolling well.



 Thunder Burt is the fastest Schwalbe tire available for XC MTB racing.


 I think that the Furious Fred is considered their ne plus ultra when it
 comes to speed -- lowest weight and rolling resistance. It's lighter,
 that's for sure.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

2015-05-26 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Patrick, Furious Fred is lighter, but Thunder Burt is faster:

http://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/thunder-burt.html

- David G in San Diego



 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:55 PM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:


 In the MTB world Schwalbe is known for making fast (low rolling
 resistance)  but relatively fragile tires.


 For the record, the Big Apple obviously not a dedicated off road tire, is
 very sturdy while still rolling well.



 Thunder Burt is the fastest Schwalbe tire available for XC MTB racing.


 I think that the Furious Fred is considered their ne plus ultra when it
 comes to speed -- lowest weight and rolling resistance. It's lighter,
 that's for sure.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

2015-05-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I wish I'd known that before I bought 3 more of the FFs from Wiggle! Oh
well, the FF is plenty fast.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Patrick, Furious Fred is lighter, but Thunder Burt is faster:

 http://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/thunder-burt.html

 - David G in San Diego



 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:55 PM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:


 In the MTB world Schwalbe is known for making fast (low rolling
 resistance)  but relatively fragile tires.


 For the record, the Big Apple obviously not a dedicated off road tire,
 is very sturdy while still rolling well.



 Thunder Burt is the fastest Schwalbe tire available for XC MTB racing.


 I think that the Furious Fred is considered their ne plus ultra when it
 comes to speed -- lowest weight and rolling resistance. It's lighter,
 that's for sure.



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Re: [RBW] How old is your Hillborne? Really

2015-05-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I often wheel my Rivs through the store or inside the PO, and not
infrequently get comments and congratulations. Relatively few ask me how
old it is, or indicate they think it's an old bike. In fact, I get the same
reactions as I do toward the Fargo. I'm sometimes surprised when a person
says to me something like, A Rivendell! I love their bikes! or I'd love
to have one of their bikes!

And bike shop people are the most enthusiastic of all, young as well as old.

Perhaps ABQ is simply more sophisticated when it comes to bikes?

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

   That is a reoccurring question I hear when out among bike enthusiasts.
 Nobody cares about the production date or  from which batch it may have
 come.
 People are always asking me how old it is.  They never ask that about the
 Hunqapillar, just the Hillborne.  Some are surprised when I tell them it's
 only 3 years old or so, but many just don't believe me.  Some have even
 corrected me with, No, that's an English brand.  A friend of mine had one
 in the '70's.  They will argue, pretending to know some deep secret about
 the lug work that *They* just don't make 'em like that anymore.  When I
 try to explain who *They* are, I'm ignored and, being the true
 enthusiasts, they continue to compliment my find and they way I've built
 it up with modern components.   It's happened a few times now.   Is it just
 me, or has this happened to anybody else?


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[RBW] Re: stupid stem question

2015-05-26 Thread Matt B.
Just make sure the wedge is down past the threaded portion of the 
steerer.   On Rivendell frames the threaded portion is long, so just to be 
on the safe side you might want to hold the stem next to the HT and 
visually see how high the stem can be, and mark it yourself with a sharpie 
or some tape.




On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 8:18:08 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:

 Regarding minimum insertion line.  does the minimum insertion line mean 
 'this far below the headset or below the locknuts or if you cant see 
 the line, you're good?  ive got about 5cm in below the headset, and 
 another 5cm taken up by locknut/cable hanger/spacer
 too little?

  father's day present bike building requires way high bars and even a 
 technomic is looking too short. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

2015-05-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I think those are Matt Isaac's frames. He gave me a heads up that he is
selling the Ram frameset I sold him not too long ago and mentioned the
Legolas.

I'd be interested in the Legolas, but I have another fatter-tired dirt bike
on the board at the moment.

The Ram is a very nice bike, but for me, as for Matt, apparently, it wasn't
as swift as would be optimal. In my case, it rode fast but handled somewhat
more slowly than I like.

Still, a nice frameset. I'll be interested to learn if someone onlist buys
one or t'other.

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

 that orange Legolas is beautiful... and my size!   If only it fit bigger
 tires in the back.

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca


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[RBW] Re: stupid stem question

2015-05-26 Thread Ron Mc
good job - that's a great price

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:27:58 AM UTC-5, WETH wrote:


 http://americancyclery.com/collections/nitto/products/nitto-technomics-280mm-1-quill-stem-26-0-clamp
  
 I bought mine from American Cyclery.

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